Anbernic RG556

[small shale]

anbernic has the worst sticks by far, basically 8 way d pads

unless that's fixed I don't wanna touch a ps2 capable anbernic with a 10m pole

[lone elm]

Android or Linux?

[autumn grove]

If it’s mediatek it’ll be android

[lone elm]

Thank you.

I really prefere Linux though.

[autumn grove]

I’m torn - I don’t love using stand-alone emulators on arm Linux handhelds with no desktop or anything (emulation station firmwares or similar) but I do prefer Linux for retroarch focused low end devices like the 3566 or lower, and I do prefer full Linux distros on x86 to android too. Just that mid tier it’s hard to beat Android right now as a result of emulators available and graphics drivers

Maybe the 3588 handhelds will finally give us the ability to run full desktop Linux distros on ARM handhelds

[tawdry pasture]

You'll be waiting for 3588 chip to come to devices as they can support linux and Android

#1103790234451324928 is supposed to have that chip

[opal elk]

Aged like fine wine

[snow radish]

True, no one is quite as good as Powkiddy. :)))

[ancient finch]

Probably made it ugly, but what if it had Xbox Design Lab options to customized

[formal plaza]

very interesting design for this and specs for this

[hollow birch]

I mean it's basically the ayaneo design philosophy, slap all the buttons at the bottom so theyre as uncomfortable to reach for as possible and take up space where the speaker should be, then put the speakers down firing. It's just a cheaper lower quality ayaneo

At least the controls are v-shaped though, credit where credit is due

Aya can't even figure that one out

[formal plaza]

i think aya is just powkiddy with more money at this point

release 50 devices and see what sticks

[autumn grove]

That’s not a fair comparison - powkiddy has some of them stick like the RGB30

[ancient finch]

Ayaneo had rich Dad??? Uncle???

[knotty vine]

Is there a future for G99 now?

[small shale]

if it becomes feasible for 120 buck devices, sure

[tawdry pasture]

With what's on the market these days, I wouldn't want to touch a G99 device unless it's at £100 ish, or if its a KT-R1 priced at or under £130/£140

[autumn grove]

G99 in the #1168252795783225424 at roughly t618 prices

[tawdry pasture]

Wait what, I had no idea the unicorn was getting a T618, I assumed it's a rgb30 clone with same guts

[deep valve]

The Unicorn is a G99

[tawdry pasture]

Sorry I meant g99**

Shame I can't get behind that display quite yet

[south rune]

Should I wait for this and just ignore the noise about the rp4 that reviews are getting today

[rough heron]

yes

[small shale]

if anbernic do the cardinal snapping sticks again i'm not buying a ps2 capable handheld from them

[sand pollen]

Im not sure I would want to deal with their android lol

[small shale]

@ gamma

[sturdy talon]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[small shale]

i'll probably wait until they make a 406

and if they fix the damn sticks or no chance i'll buy anything

[south rune]

I will only buy one new.

[sturdy talon]

tbh i have no interest rp4 or 506/556

only in 406

[sand pollen]

odin 2 kinda killed my desire for any of them for now

[sturdy talon]

i specifically need "The ONE 4:3"

[sand pollen]

maybe the 406 for that screen

[small shale]

yeah this is an awkward point

[sturdy talon]

i also need to kinda decide what device i will play N64 on 😄

doesnt feel right on any of the 16:9 ones and feels awkward on both RG405v or RGB30

[rough heron]

I feel like that's going to be most people these days. Definitely me. A company should focus on making the perfect 4:3 device now. No one wants their larger screen 16:9 devices anymore lol

Well I want perfect 4:3 and fun form factor budget things.

If they'd just made a plastic 405 I would have been set for my devices, but noooo

[worthy haven]

I want the phat rg505v with d1200.

[tight whale]

I wonder if the new Ayn/Retroid sticks will dethrone the Switch sticks as the default handheld sticks.

Having an Odin 2 has killed any serious interest in new handhelds for a billion reasons, and the sticks is a big part of that.

[sturdy talon]

i still want the endagem 4:3 one even with odin 2 😄

its just doesnt feel ideal on wide screen with blackbars/overlay

[south rune]

dpad where?

[rough heron]

up top 🤷🏻‍♂️

[rough heron]

When that happens we won't need anymore handhelds. We will have perfection and these companies will really have to dig deep to further sales haha

[sturdy talon]

More weird formfactors

Like do n64/gc layout one, tate mode one,one with neogeo cklicky stick,....

Successor to old weirdos (A13, Model S , funk ey M)

[south rune]

https://tenor.com/view/denzel-washington-training-day-smoke-gif-22279308

[rough heron]

You know anbernic is doing n64 next. Hopefully it isn't like the arc and can emulate what it's modeled after 😅

[autumn grove]

Pls

[mint glen]

Why not Clambernic? Too few clamshell devices on the market 😂

[rough heron]

Well I'm hoping. Should be announced next week the way they are going.

[mint glen]

Honestly, for clamshells I wouldn't even be mad

It's just something about the form factor that makes them really appealing

[prime matrix]

if the RG556 has switch style sticks they are shooting themselves in the foot imo

[autumn grove]

With the 2s, odin 2, rp4, the standard has definitely risen for controls

[stuck steppe]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ANBERNIC/comments/191qiga/anbernic_rg556_geekbench_score/

[deep valve]

That's a Unisoc T820

Which is a very new CPU. Hopefully they got a good deal

[toxic fable]

hoho no rubber grip pads, lovely

[silent elk]

So is the 556 that one Baterang looking handheld?

[formal plaza]

so are we getting the rg556 pro after this

[worthy haven]

I can tolerate this soc if it has a 5:3 screen.

[stuck steppe]

Not a fan of the horns... hope it changes for the better on the engineering units and production.

But yeah - doesn't seem like much of an upgrade when compared to the d1100

[azure quest]

Oh dear lord here comes the oversharpening again then

[sturdy talon]

#where406

[lapis nimbus]

Interesting, gadgetversus lists this chip as 5W, but I can't find any other source to confirm https://gadgetversus.com/processor/unisoc-tiger-t820-vs-mediatek-mt6891z-dimensity-1100/

So if true, this could be passively cooled, I guess

[small shale]

is it like, between d900 and d1100 in power?

[mortal sigil]

Same as aya Neo pocket air. It’s stronger than the 1100

its comparable to d900

https://gadgetversus.com/processor/unisoc-tiger-t820-vs-mediatek-mt6877v-za-dimensity-900/

Oh wait I though we were talking about the 1200 lol

Damn, I thought I caught up. I missed the whole first half of this convo lmao

so rp4 tier, playable n64, psp, gamecube, wii, decent ps2, some switch

[small shale]

not bad if it's passively cooled, and a bit cheaper than rp4 non pro

[mortal sigil]

price is not announced yet iirc

[autumn grove]

It’ll have to be cheaper if it uses switch sticks and the usual anbernic dpad vs the retroid controls

[small shale]

yeah i'm definitely not buying any ps2 capable anbernic handheld until they get better sticks and actually calibrate them to not be 8 way d pads

[lapis nimbus]

Is there a reason people think this will use switch sticks? I mean, the entire xx5 series uses Hall effect sticks, even 405V

[rough heron]

I don't really care what sticks they put in it, would be convenient to come with hall, but they are easy to replace and you can buy a set from retroid for like 10 bucks

[rough heron]

I wish. We don't need more 16:9 devices. We need another 4 in 4:3 🙂

in plastic

[small shale]

those are still switch sticks though

at least when i say switch sticks, i mean any sticks that pivot but don't shift around

[lapis nimbus]

You're saying that you want sliders?

[small shale]

no, i'm saying i want rp2s sticks at least

[lapis nimbus]

Yeah, but I think "sticks that pivot but don't shift around" describe every device I have (xbox controllers, 8bitdo, dualshocks, etc)

Unless I'm missing something

[small shale]

basically, left is a switch stick and right is a normal stick from like an xbox controller or deck
switch stick's "ball" is so tiny the stick mostly just "pivots" around the center, while on normal sticks it feels more like it's moving around the "ball" than rotating

rp2s sticks are like an in between

[silent nimbus]

Butt plug

[rough heron]

I want any device with the retroid flip sliders. Honestly weren't that bad for a super pocketable device. Would be great on another clam

[rough heron]

Was my first thought as well. Just wasn't gonna go there haha

[silent nimbus]

I goes in

[rough heron]

all in!

[lapis nimbus]

Appreciate the explanation! So is there a more mainstream device (like a first party console) that uses sticks like that?

[small shale]

well, any pc handheld except for the win600, and the ones on the rp2s and the odin 2 are an inbetween as i said

[lapis nimbus]

Hmm, figured those Geekbench scores might not be fair to compare (early software/engineering prototype/yadayada), so found the only smartphone that uses T820 — the ZTE Nubia Neo 5G aka Nubia N8150N

Welp, the difference is single digits

[deep valve]

T820 was the only chip with the same architecture from unisoc that I could find

[lapis nimbus]

Those processor ID and motherboard ID are identical for RG556 and the ZTE phone, so I think it is indeed the T820

Question is, whether they can get such a new SOC for cheap

[small shale]

ask ayn that lol

i'm still amazed

[lapis nimbus]

Then again, if after a whole year there is only one smartphone with T820, maybe Unisoc has a huge surplus of those, I guess?

[deep valve]

Those were my thoughts, it doesn't seem very popular

Power really seems to be similar to the d900

Unisoc drivers are probably worse though

[autumn grove]

Worse than mediatek?

[deep valve]

That's just my guess, it feels like Mediatek processors are becoming more wildly used and popular

Unisoc has had success with tablets, but for phones Mediatek has a huge lead afaik

[azure quest]

I'm working on the kt-r1 which is mediatek

It's more limiting to work with if you don't have sources

E.g display refresh rates etc

[lapis nimbus]

Found this (ZTE Nubia Neo 5G uses the Unisoc T820)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ckgye6YKyc

1x resolution, locked to 30FPS, no idea if it's Vulkan. Seems to dip a lot

Meanwhile, looks like RP4Pro can handle the PAL version at 2x

https://youtu.be/VNnGzhjU5-U?si=dKnS1VMelci-KkNf&t=678

That dude only tested two other games and I'm not familiar with them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCK3ecExDUM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE7aCo4joRk

[lapis nimbus]

Can't say I disagree (although I'd put software third or second), but the timing makes it sound like a cope lol

Translation:

Handheld Design Principles:
Screen comes first (after all, a handheld is all about the screen)
Feel comes second (it wouldn't be a handheld without a good feel)
Performance comes third (if you want performance, go play with a smartphone)

Curious that the Chinese symbols for numerals are just a corresponding number of lines, I like how that paragraph looks

[small shale]

only 1 to 3

but yeah it's cool

[lapis nimbus]

What's the fourth would be like?

[small shale]

四

[lapis nimbus]

Oh yeah, that breaks the pattern all right 🙂

[full current]

screen comes first yet we haven't seen a high res screen from Anbernic since the rg552 a million billion years ago

[lapis nimbus]

Yeah, and those are the same people who said that light bleeding issues on the Arc are "normal"

[silent nimbus]

Man with that performance 5.5 inch screen is disappointing

[lapis nimbus]

I mean, my focus is PSP, and I wanted an OLED handheld for a long time, so this is still kinda appealing to me

But I suspect they're not going to make this too cheap, so they better have some kind of a redeeming quality to make up for lack of performance

Like if it does end up being passively cooled (which is a big if)

[mortal sigil]

(if you want performance, go play with a smartphone)

bruh my smartphone is RP3+/505 tier lol

maybe just above it

[lapis nimbus]

So, I've been watching Taki's review of RP4 and noticed that the RP4 Geekbench scores most have been using to compare with RG556 are from the "high performance" mode (the fastest one) while we have no idea which mode is used on RG556

Here's the comparison with RP4 Pro at standard mode

Now, the GPU is still going to be weaker either way, the Vulkan scores are half of even the lowest score for RP4 Pro

[red plover]

D1100 will have faster single core it’s a78 vs a76

Something like the t820(could be t760) is better compared to the d900 than d1100

what does 6000 series have to do with 556

[limpid sundial]

Ok?

[red plover]

X86 chips/devices are a different market than the android/arm ones

The max2 is a whole laptop what if someone is looking for a small handheld

Okay?

[autumn grove]

Odin 2?

Oh you mean the unreleased thing

I am very skeptical of this claim until I see real world stuff

[red plover]

It’s really irrelevant numbers aside from maybe o2

[red plover]

U could make that argument as for $100 more u can get an 8g2 device

X elite really isn’t meant for this side of the market the tdp is a bit higher for something like this. In regards to the rp4 yeah I wish it had snap dragon. Speaking from a personal experience d1200 vs 3050e emulation is a bit a of toss up (in the emulation systems they share) d1200 upscaled further not that the 506 is seemingly using that chip it looks like a t760 to me

[harsh widget]

And what about power consumption and watt2performance compared to m1 and m2 (if both is powered by battery)?

[red plover]

Size becomes the issue at that point Odin 2 for example is 8000mah or 30wh even the aya neo kun which is a big device is only 75wh.

[upbeat glacier]

?

https://tenor.com/view/eyeroll-animition-gif-13294039

[stray talon]

Mate the thread is called anbernic rg506 not "talk about myself"

Any mods?

[lapis nimbus]

credit: user @abstract hatch

So February-March

I mean, the Geekbench scores say it's RG556

[small shale]

the rumor was 506 cause they usually have a 5 inch screen, but the one they showed was 5,5 inch

so it will be 556 unless they change screen or design

[lapis nimbus]

Unless it's another elaborate joke from Max, of course

[small shale]

it would be cool if it had the 5.5 inch from the rg552

and not a cheaper one like powkiddy

[lapis nimbus]

Would be cool if they could tell you the TDP of T820

[small shale]

it was 5w apparently, so maybe no need for a fan

[lapis nimbus]

I mean, I only saw that number in Gadgetversus, but they also list 10W for lesser T7xx series chips

But I haven't found anything from Unisoc

Would be cool if it were fanless

[small shale]

from the pics around, there are fan exhausts but no intakes, it's kinda confusing

[lapis nimbus]

Yeah, I noticed that too

But then again, RP Flip and Switch Lite are also that way, and both have a fan

[small shale]

true, i was just thinking about the ones i have

[lapis nimbus]

Very similar configurations

[small shale]

oh they suck from those long holes at the bottom

i see

[lone elm]

A handheld with a Snapdragon would always be android, or can it also use Linux?

[small shale]

the odin 1 was able to run windows 32 bit

so probably, if someone develops for it

[lone elm]

Oh nice. I really want a handheld that could run Sega Saturn beetle core, 4:3 screen and custom firmware like Onion OS / Garlick OS

So I"ll be waiting

Thank you for the reply.

Powkiddy is often open source, but Anbernic and Retroid are more locked? Would the Anbernic rg506 most likely be locked?

Not sure if I got it right.

Alright, a shame then. I'll patreon support Black-Seraph. But sounds like a lot of work for them.

[lapis nimbus]

I think in the case of Unisoc/Mediatek it won't matter who makes the device, there are no public sources either way

Could be wrong though

[lone elm]

Thank you everyone for always being helpful. Have a nice day.

[small shale]

so basically an odin lite

[abstract hatch]

Slightly better since it uses 4x a76

[small shale]

it gets better points but only by around 10%

i hope they can get this out for under 150

[abstract hatch]

True. But that’s info we don’t have right now

Except a few t820 phones out there

[lapis nimbus]

I think the big issue is not really the CPU cores, but that Mali G57 GPU

I mean, the RP4 scores in that table are from the performance mode where you're forced to use active cooling. I think the RP4 reviews we've seen mostly show the device in standard mode

But the GPU scores for T820 are literally half that of D1100

Considering AetherSX2 was abandoned before Android devs started working on Mali GPUs, I think you do need raw power there

Not sure about GC performance

Errmm, as in "I'm Spartacus"? lol

[red plover]

Is confirmed t820 or is it the the lower binned t760

The 2.2ghz matches the lower binned variant

[lapis nimbus]

I mean, Anbernic hasn't confirmed anything. But the details in Geekbench scores match the info for that ZTE phone with T820

[abstract hatch]

There is one core are 2.7gjx

GHz

So it seems t820

[red plover]

Didn’t see that I thought the other 3 were also higher but unisoc’s website is confusing

[mortal sigil]

t820 should be near perfect gamecube, 3ds, wii and decent ps2 right?

[abstract hatch]

I’m only using 3rd party websites for info

[red plover]

Not perfect gc it’s like 845ish

[abstract hatch]

Hahah

[red plover]

I don’t blame u because man shifting through their marketing and them not listing which cores are what speed was annoying

😂

Also to add a bit Odin lite is more like somewhere in the 900s for single core and 2.4k for multi

[abstract hatch]

I only found one result for Odin lite

Can you share a better one?

[red plover]

Just pulling from my unit

[abstract hatch]

Tried using best benchmarks I found

Can you ss or send the link?

I’ll fix it

[red plover]

Be home in 15-20 minutes I’ll ping u when I drop the ss

[red plover]

@abstract hatch

[abstract hatch]

Fixed

It makes more sense as older score was close to ktr1 with a76

[red plover]

Yeah it shares the same performance cores but less of them and less clock speed as rp4p and pocket air.

[lapis nimbus]

Good luck, Max

(also browsing Baidu for shitposts about handhelds is definitely one of my favorite pastimes now)

There's way too much homoeroticism in here until you remember that ZPG in Chinese sounds like "Zhang's ass" (as someone explained here previously)

[abstract hatch]

The butthole must be destroyed

[lapis nimbus]

Indeed

[abstract hatch]

Wonder if my wife would be mad if I try that

[lapis nimbus]

Easier to ask for forgiveness than permission, I guess?

[red plover]

Who is zhang?

[abstract hatch]

Isn't that the guy who's doing modded handhelds

that will release a g99 this year

[red plover]

[lapis nimbus]

He's the guy behind GKD devices, the LG Wing and the ZPG A1 Unicorn

[abstract hatch]

Yes, the zpg a1

And who is this zhou?

[red plover]

I lack context but the energy is funny 😂

[lapis nimbus]

Max Zhou (not sure what's his non-Westernized name), head of Anbernic

[abstract hatch]

I see. So anbernic guy wants to f*ck Zhang

[red plover]

I’m curious if they are keeping the oled side of this wasn’t it supposed to come with one

[abstract hatch]

He also said d1200 oled

And it ended up t820

Unless thats another handheld

[red plover]

I’m actually excited to see t820 hopefully it’s around 150ish

[lapis nimbus]

Yeah, I'm thinking of finally buying an Android handheld this year. Mostly for PSP, light PS2 and streaming from my Xbox

The shape of this, the asymmetrical sticks and the OLED screen definitely sound appealing for streaming

[abstract hatch]

Lets see...

[abstract hatch]

yeah oled is restricted to pocket air nowadays

[lapis nimbus]

Yeah, that, or the ancient Vita screens on RG503/505

[abstract hatch]

should be pOled

Painful Oled

[lapis nimbus]

Didn't even know you could do voice messages on Discord

I mean, makes sense for what used to be a teamspeak app, but it's the first time I see these

Yeah, one should never buy from the first batch

I broke that rule with RG Arc (really wanted that device), got kinda burnt by the mild lightbleeding issues

[jade walrus]

This guy came in here hard slamming these handhelds.

[lapis nimbus]

However, by the time Anbernic releases the 556 I suppose Retroid will launch RP4Pro on AliExpress and hopefully fix the screen/triggers issues, so I might just get that instead

[jade walrus]

Rp4 pro?

[lapis nimbus]

Oh, right

[jade walrus]

The screen calibration was fixed it looks like.

Have they confirmed the chip in this? I've seen different information.

I saw mtk1200 then someone said a unisoc chip?

Oh t820

[lapis nimbus]

Yeah, but I think the concern wasn't whether it can be fixed, but whether the fix would come at a cost of reduced brightness/etc

[jade walrus]

I think it was just a color calibration thing which happens but I'm sure they will test that once all the reviewers get the fix

[abstract hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/podcast-gif-18184199

[silent nimbus]

Zhang-bang

[abstract hatch]

my eyes hurt

[silent nimbus]

Homophobic?

https://tenor.com/view/treyreloaded-gif-25910669

[abstract hatch]

Should have expected that. Kyriu doesn't seem interested in romance with the women he meets in all other yakuza

[abstract hatch]

Nah. Just a big yakuza fan

[silent nimbus]

Gae honor punch 4 orphans

[abstract hatch]

Nani

[jade walrus]

Oh that guy get banned? Lol

Oh why did all your text and messages disappear?

I'm not listening to those but ok.

[mortal sigil]

✌️

[autumn grove]

if this is the 552 screen that gives it a big niche

if it's a 1080p 16:9 oled that's cool too

720p would be disappointing

[stuck steppe]

The harrassment on baidu is funny, and Max loves to troll.

Can't really trust what he says

It is comforting to see chinese make fun of the software issues with anbernic, asking where the source code is.

And that it's the job of the customers to write the software for them

[ancient finch]

forget about pocket fit, Make this with 3:2 screen + Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 + 10000 Mah battery please

[small shale]

i don't like handhelds shaped so much like a controller

[worthy haven]

Now give me the 4:3 version.

[ancient finch]

Yes 4:3 should be with similar design principles, I hate box handheld

Think about Ergonomics for once

[autumn grove]

406

[lapis nimbus]

Aaaand there goes my hope of it being passively cooled

[autumn grove]

can already hear the whine

'EEEEEeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee'

it'll probably/hopefully not need the fan for 95% of what it'll run anyway

[azure quest]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-awkward-gif-20874314

[mortal sigil]

tf is he on

[autumn grove]

Baidu I think

[stuck steppe]

Max posted drawings of a 1:1 version.

[autumn grove]

I wonder if that one will be t820 too

would be more powerful than the g99 in the ZPG A1

probably more expensive too

[stuck steppe]

I'm just not a fan of the horns... and it looks even worse on the 1:1 version

[red plover]

I kinda like the design

[autumn grove]

I'd be willing to go with anbernic on the 1:1 RGB30 upgrade device if they go t610/t618 and cheap

dunno if I'd be willing to pay extra for their t820

[lapis nimbus]

I actually like the horns

There's no chance this device will be compact anyways, and it's nice to have some extra support to play the sticks

[small shale]

seems pretty comfy to me yeah

for me this tier is kinda in no man's land now though unless they can release it at a surprising price

[autumn grove]

yeah it feels like anything well valued will completely obsolete every t618 handheld ever

but if it is significantly more than those t618 handhelds then you're in 'why not rp4pro?' territory

[wintry hill]

Or just the RP4

[red plover]

https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/compare/4293897?baseline=4130934

[hollow birch]

🤣😂

[autumn grove]

straight men are the gayest people on earth

(not that there's anything wrong with that)

[hollow birch]

If you don't kiss the homies on the mouth, they ain't your homies

[lapis nimbus]

Surprisingly deep and insightful

[abstract hatch]

So that means that gay men are less gay than straight men?

[autumn grove]

Yes

[lapis nimbus]

That would also mean that gay men are the straightest men on earth, I guess

We need a new Anbernic leak right about now

[mortal sigil]

G99 bottom

Anbernic should use the Kirin chipset

If Anbernic used the Kirin chipset it would save costs and improve quality for the $200 RP4pro or in Anbernic RG series etc

t820 is compared to 6100 series in various places online??

However, Both utilized for gaming and for emulation gaming past ps1 requires more power in regards to cpu/gpu

Mobile gaming and emulation gaming are two different things

[mortal sigil]

Ps2 Emulation + requires huge cpu/gpu at the end of the day - Ps2, PS3, GameCube, Xbox etc are complex systems- That’s all

I’m still testing and pushing the limits with rg505 and Aethersx2 gaming with Killzone for Ps2 running tests

Pushing and maxing out limit t618

Just be cautious before jumping in and buying etc

That’s my point

But even if I have a t820 or D1100, 1200 still won’t be enough for Killzone due to lack emulation hardware acceleration and rendering etc with Ps2 Emulation in a RG or RP4 Pro etc

[ancient finch]

looking at chart RK3588s with JELOS with 3:2 screen match made in "RetroLand"

[mortal sigil]

Nice

[mortal sigil]

Device and price??

Powkiddy?

[lapis nimbus]

I assume that was their dream

We still don't have a single RK3588 device on the market

[mortal sigil]

How pong was it since the first rk3588 SBC/router on the market? 2 years?

It's getting ridiculous

[lapis nimbus]

Well, a year, really

I think the first affordable (like sub $100) RK3588 SBC was from Orange Pi and those came in December'22. Then came all the others

[mortal sigil]

Hmmm maybe? Though it was longer than that

Like, rk3566

First handheld - rg503 in March 22

First device - 2021?

[lapis nimbus]

Yeah, the SBCs/TV boxes with RK3566 started to appear in 2021

Yeah, Orange Pi 5 came out in November 22

https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/11/11/orange-pi-5-most-affordable-rockchip-rk3588s-sbc/

Feels like Intel's N100 kinda killed any interest for RK3588 for emulation on TVs, tbh — so that could explain why software development isn't too fast

I mean, people have been buying used miniPCs for Batocera for a while — but with N100 you can actually just get a ~$150-ish miniPC new and not worry about drivers and stuff

[mortal sigil]

Rumor - T80 handheld but fugly

There is an article on it by retro gamers etc

But it’s fugly

Or did it launch and flop?

it didnt launch

yet

[worthy haven]

Check out their t101 model. Dumpster fire on igg.

[ancient finch]

If only it was with 5 inch around 4:3. with 8 inch they went too far. Also controls seems cheap.

Anbernic should collab with Gulikit or GameSir

[quartz mantle]

Gameforce ACE is currently planning on shipping late this month. From a lesser known company which is maybe why it doesn't get much attention but on paper looks pretty good.

[wintry hill]

They need to start shipping the T101's before the T80 can go on IGG.

Their only product so far looks more like a scam by the day.

[mortal sigil]

Okay 👌

Their product isn’t appealing

[mortal sigil]

I’ll check it out

[limpid spade]

repurposing this thread from RG506 to RG556

Anbernic RG556

[limpid spade]

it was fun reading up on this thread

[rough heron]

Another 16:9 device that plays games every other device already does. 😞 Where's the 4:3 devices at. 😅

[limpid spade]

if it uses the same screen as the rg552, then I think it'll be fine

it's a 5:3 screen that does well with integer scaling for a lot of systems

people were always wishing for the 552 screen to come to better handhelds

[rough heron]

That's true. I haven't gotten the 552 although always tempted. I'd consider this if it had that panel

Just tired of 16:9 devices. Haha. Market is over saturated with them.

[autumn grove]

some people are sure this is gonna be a 1080p oled and others are sure it's gonna be the 5:3 LCD from the 552

[limpid spade]

I believe the rg506 was supposed to have that 1080p oled that peeps were referring to

I'm going by anbernic's device naming scheme for this one. I could be totally wrong though

[ancient finch]

Hope Bumpers, Triggers & Joy Sticks are good. Hall effect if possible

[autumn grove]

I wonder if they’d make a slim 506 alongside an ergo 556

[south rune]

PPI on that 552 screen is so good.

[autumn grove]

Or if this has fully replaced the 506 and we’ll just get 556 and 406

[south rune]

Who know Anbernic is strange. The whole 35xx plus/H made little sense to me.

[autumn grove]

I would like to see them use the arc dpad again after all the r+d that went into it

[south rune]

Anbernic does like to release the same SOC in different SKUs. One thing I learned is if you don't like what they offer wait a couple months. Unless you want a plastic 405P with dpad on top. You just get the 405v instead

[autumn grove]

Imagine if we got a non-ergo pocketable arc alternative with 6 face buttons, 3.5” screen, arc dpad, inline shoulders

Basically a slightly wider 35xxH to accommodate 2 more action buttons and the arc dpad but without sticks

[south rune]

Not for me.

[autumn grove]

I’m probably gonna buy an arc as my next handheld regardless

Either lunar new year sale or a spare from Joey

[south rune]

Wait you never had one and think the dpad is great?

[autumn grove]

The comparisons between the m30 and arc dpad are favourable in all reviews that have both to compare and I love my m30

I like sega style dpads over Nintendo ones

Vita style ones like my odin 2 are great too though

I held off on the arc initially because not pocketable and I was worried about cfw but now we’ve got theRA and gamma and I’ve got a new more compact sling bag so it’s not just pocket or full size deck sling

[south rune]

You do you Boo

[autumn grove]

You don’t like the arc dpad?

Do you have an m30 to compare?

[south rune]

I don't have M30. I bought the ARC for a friend that is really into Sega as a gift. Got it setup and wasn't that impressed by it. Never was fan when Sega had dpads like that. I get why people like it. Just not for me.

[autumn grove]

ok cool, I get not liking sega dpads, was just worried that maybe this wasn't as good of a sega dpad as I've been led to believe

[south rune]

Just personal preference

[ancient finch]

RG35xx plus/H are awesome but besides wifi/Bluetooth whats the other benefit. I understand tiny psp,dreamcast & n64. There's millions options if you want to run those better. If only original rg35xx with wifi for "35$" what a gameboy clone it would have been

[stuck steppe]

Even with the marginal chipset upgrade - if it has the 552 screen, I'm in

[autumn grove]

I dunno if I’d call 3399 to t820 marginal fwiw

[stuck steppe]

true!

[spare grail]

is this thing real?

1080p oled dimension 1200 sounds nice

[autumn grove]

it seems to have been morphed into a 5.5" that may or may not be oled and t820

could be 720p LCD like the powkiddy x28/x55 (and hopefully cheap), 1152 5:3 LCD from the 552 (integer scaling dream), or 1080p oled like the pocket air (and probably a bit pricey)

[autumn grove]

anyone halfway tech saavy able to tell whether those are analog triggers from that pic?

[stuck steppe]

omg they have to be

otherwise why have such a long buttons

that implies they have some travel

[mortal sigil]

I seem to recall Russ asking Anbernic about making a successor to the RG552 but they said that they unfortunately didn't have enough of the screens and couldn't get anymore of them, so it's probably a safe bet to assume the 556 will use a new screen.

[autumn grove]

cool, so the options at that size are definitley 720p LCD or 1080p oled because those are used in handhelds presently, with 1080p lcd and 720p oled probably also existing

[mortal sigil]

CPU and Gpu matter - Let me give an example

Killzone Pscx2/Aethersx2

Killzone crashes - Why? GSdx plug-in /VU cache overload - GSdx references the directx plugin with PlayStation 2 Emotion Engine - VỤ - Vector Unit cache overload causing known memory leak which there is a patch on pc side but as an experienced game tester in my past - Neocron part time back in 2002 - Aethersx2 can be adjusted to counter these issues to lessen the memory overload due to hardware acceleration and rendering

Adjust Blender Accuracy, Shader config , texture filtering or disabling etc to offset memory load etc - still testing but with emulation gaming CPU/GPU matter in any retro handheld etc

And lastly, Resolution lowering 75x etc

[mortal sigil]

Will the RG556 be strong enough to play ball? Hmmm

I have doubts regarding the RG556

[jade walrus]

So don't buy it

[mortal sigil]

I won’t rush to - I’ll wait n see results

[jade walrus]

I imagine it's near rp4 performance. And pricing that matches it's performance. At least based on past results.

[mortal sigil]

Fair enough

[jade walrus]

I'm just curious what soc they use

[mortal sigil]

I did reach out to MediaTek and Unisoc regarding certain chipsets with sales/research dept regarding TDP etc seeing as Anbernic had no response - Wait n see what they say

[mortal sigil]

Once they respond - And they should I’ll lead up to retro devices and SoC etc

With further questions etc

[mortal sigil]

crap i must update the OP

[mortal sigil]

T820, comparable to D900 in RP4

if its less than 170 USD + shippig, then its fine

[lapis nimbus]

T820 actually would have been nice for Arc if you care about Saturn

If it's similar to D900, that chip seems to be very close to decent Saturn. The chip should be fast enough for Beetle — hope it doesn't have compatibility issues with the core

[mortal sigil]

Eh hmmmm

[jade walrus]

It's been 100% confirmed to be A T820 now?

[autumn grove]

It does kinda feel like we’re getting closer to this fan render all the time lol

[lapis nimbus]

Another device scheduled for April, has a 4:3 1280x720 screen, chip undisclosed for now

Source: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8857108196?pn=1

[full current]

oh shit

the almighty rg406 lives

[spring flint]

Not square pixels then if that's the case 🤔

[autumn grove]

Yeah that has to be a mistake

Either 1280x960 or 960x720

I think you’ll see a lot of arguments over which of those two would be the better res overall

960x720 better for handheld systems PSP, GBC, GBA - 1280x960 better for 640x480 home consoles (Dreamcast, ps2, GameCube) and vertical arcade cabs (224x320)

[limpid spade]

for a "high performance" device with a 4:3 screen, I think 960p would be better

so what if GBC/GBA doesn't scale perfectly. that screen res may be high enough where integer scaling shouldn't matter as much for those systems

and personally I wouldn't play PSP on a 4:3 screen anyway

[autumn grove]

PSP on a 960x720 would be just as large of a display area as on a PSP go while being perfect 2x res fwiw

I don’t think I’d play PSP GoW on it but disgaea or J’eanne D’arc maybe

But yeah I agree, if the goal is pocket PS2 then 960p is better

[sturdy talon]

tbh i wouldnt really do PSP on 4:3 screen

but great to hear the "406" dream is still somewhat alive

[autumn grove]

Yeah if the design is good I’d get it at either res

Hell if the design is good and plastic I’d get it at 640x480 but obviously it would be better at 720 or 960

[sturdy talon]

also it not releasing anytime soon also goes well for me 😄

need to bit rebuild my fund ... thx to few unexpected expnses 😄

[jade walrus]

More devices!!!!!!!

I want the RG509 by December.

[autumn grove]

207

S8g2, 2” screen

Still a vita sized handheld, just a tiny screen

[jade walrus]

Nah rg.511, 0.5 inch screen but SD gen 12 chip.

But for real abernic will probably continue to make all kinds of options for at least the next year or so.

[small shale]

406 is great news

that's kinda gonna kill half the potential sales of the 556 tbh

[jade walrus]

Depends

[tawdry pasture]

wait what, 4:3 and 1280x720 dont fit in the same sentence surely, that's a 16:9 res

[tawdry pasture]

ah nvm someone spotted the error xD

[rough heron]

Not for me. I don't want any 16:9 devices anytime soon. I want new 4:3 devices. Anbernic and Retroid won't get my money for a 16:9 for a long time coming. 🙂

Usually if people want a 4:3 device a new 16:9 device isn't going to make any difference, and vice versa

[small shale]

that's what i meant, since rp4 already exists, announcing the 406 kills the interest for the 556 quite a bit

at least for me

[rough heron]

For me, since Odin 2 exists the rp4 had no appeal at all

especially once I saw review videos where they had to still use pal roms in some cases or still had to mess with resolution

I only want to tinker with cheap budget devices

[small shale]

yeah i bought the odin 2 after the first rp4p reviews came in, same thing for me

rather spend double and not have to tinker, and get extra switch stuff

[rough heron]

Yup. I appreciate the quality of devices retroid puts out. But I'm not pocketing an rp4 either so why bother buying a slightly cheaper device that is much cheaper in what it can do.

[autumn grove]

the odin 2 is great if you can afford it, obviously a lot of people don't want to spend that much money and its good that options exist at lower price points

but yeah as an odin 2 owner I'm not buying another stick top horizontal 16:9 anytime soon

[rough heron]

I agree with this. I just think it's funny reading people expecting Odin 2 performance out of devices not on the Odin 2 hardware level. Like...you are allowed to save longer. You don't have to buy something today. But people these days...no patience and no work ethic lol

If you can save 200, plus shipping...you can save 300

and that selet button is in the way wrong spot. people complained about it being on top but are happy with it being on the right where you cant use it conveniently. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[mortal sigil]

That’s a fair comparison- Hope below $170 = Quality with price etc

[mortal sigil]

Hmm... if folks aren't entirely happy with the GameCube and PS2 performance of the D1100 in the Retroid Pocket 4 Pro then it doesn't look like the T820 in the RG556 is going to make them any happier.

[red plover]

I’ve been retesting my Odin lite and been pretty happy with it should be closer to something like that

[devout spruce]

There does seem to be this weird dissonance with the dearer sub $200 devices, you still get some overhyping the capabilities of T618 models to do PS2/GC, while others turn around and focus on the odd few games on stuff like the rp4pro that struggle.

I'm definitely another one where the Odin 2 has killed my interest in cheaper 16:9 devices though, I was interested to see the performance that the rp4 pro brought to that price range, but zero interest in buying one.

[rough heron]

I find it funny to watch dissapointment happen when people realize the Rp4 Pro isn't an Odin 2 mini.

[red plover]

We don’t know the cost of this so if it’s like 150-170 I think it could fill in a nice role in the market. It’s a good step up over t618

[rough heron]

I meant the rp4 pro. But only recently did anbernic start pricing their devices reasonably

[red plover]

Oh gotcha yeah hopefully this is a bit cheaper

Than that

[devout spruce]

They do seem like they have got a lot better from rg405v onwards

Although that one might have been mostly due to how much more the metal casing was costing them

[rough heron]

win600 was the pinacle of their stupid pricing. It's gotten better since then

[mortal sigil]

Yeah, there is a lot of that on both sides. The only GameCube game I've found that runs 100% full speed with zero dips from beginning to end at 1x resolution on my RP3+ has been Alien Hominid, which was a lot of fun to play through even if it did make the device get alarmingly hot lol

On the flip side, it seems like most GameCube games should play really well on the RP4 Pro but there will be those top end ones that just aren't going to run full speed. Even on the Odin2 you have to drop the resolution to 1x and use the Vulkan backend to get full speed performance in Rogue Squadron II; and I imagine there will still be occasional stutters here and there.

[devout spruce]

I guess I have been lucky and not come across anything beyond RS II that struggles on my Odin 2, which other GC games are troublesome on there?

[mortal sigil]

Rogue Squadron III is the only other one I can think of that might have some slowdown on the Odin 2, though my Odin 2 won't arrive in the mail for a few more days so I'll have to wait to find out for sure.

[mortal sigil]

I'm hoping the Odin 2 will satiate my desire for new devices too, though for the time being I'll admit that I do still kinda want the Powkiddy X55 lol I'll probably hold off on buying any more devices until one comes along with a big 5.5" or 6" screen and the D-pad on top above the left analog stick. It wouldn't even need to have much power, I'd just like a D-pad focused device with a big screen and enough processing power to play up to PS1 at 2x resolution.

[red plover]

I play more ps2 than gc so idk about the hard stuff on that one

[devout spruce]

Sadly, it hasn't been that effective for me, it's merely locked up the high-end alongside my steam deck, I have still been nabbing a fair few of the cheap ones, got an XX H on the way.

[mortal sigil]

The cheap ones are always fun and tempting to pick up lol I was eyeballing a 35XX H but then I won a 35XX Plus in the Retro Handhelds New Year's Eve giveaway, so I'm just enjoying that for now. It's a nice little device but I'm definitely looking forward to MinUI being available for it, and a little bummed that the screen is a lot dimmer than the screen on the original RG35XX.

[brisk canyon]

One of the most appealing factors of the RP4Pro is definitely the performance to size ratio.

[rigid kestrel]

You can always check out muOS in the mean time!

And the screen isn't dimmer. It's much brighter than the OG.

[sturdy talon]

which by iself is getting better and better in crazy pace

[sturdy talon]

yup ... i basically just want one final "4:3" pocketable device

i dont need it to be comparable to odin2 in power ... just stronger than T618 .. so it can handle gc/ps2 at least at 1x (without much of a tweaking)

[mortal sigil]

✌️

Anbernic + Kirin = The way!

[ancient finch]

where will RG556 fit in?

[mortal sigil]

Cool image

[small shale]

slighly smaller than the odin 2

[red plover]

Go big or go home bigger than o2

[lapis nimbus]

These probably need to be pinned until we get more photos

#1115941414497427556 message

[abstract hatch]

Just heads up to y’all thinking about d1200 oled. Rumor was 506 which meant “6” was supposed to be d1200. It’s actually t820

If they follow their name convention then don’t expect d1200 anymore. Perhaps what Arthur said was true and d1200 stock is pretty much gone

Makes sense consider Retroid went with d1100

[autumn grove]

That’s fine by me tbh, I’d rather have cheap t820 than expensive d1200

[ancient finch]

I doubt that, ARC is bigger than RP3/4.

[autumn grove]

The arc screen is as tall as a 5” 16:9 (just narrower) so the 5.5” won’t be too too much taller

[ancient finch]

I just keep repeating myself, that KTR1 screen3:2 high DPI with offset DPAD & Joy-Stick

[autumn grove]

With the horns the 556 might be slightly taller than the odin 2

[autumn grove]

You don’t want that screen, it’s why they can only make 50 units a month and it costs $250 now

Failure city

More or less a case study in why you should use screens that are well trodden and readily available over sourcing replacement screens for long discontinued phones

[ancient finch]

That works so well most in cases. screen ratio & resolution works so well with 16:9 , 3:2 , 4:3 & 8:7 contents all Retro consoles with very little black bars.

[small shale]

yeah, i don't get your point, the 556 will be noticeably bigger than both

[ancient finch]

It might be bigger than Odin2 based on design shared, that's where i am going with comparison

[stuck steppe]

it could be, but I doubt it. The horns might make it as tall

[small shale]

the odin 2 has a 6 inch screen and pretty big bezels, it will be smaller

[ancient finch]

wanna bet

[small shale]

half way between rp3 and odin 2 in footprint

[small shale]

it's not like i care but it wouldn't make sense

[ancient finch]

ya, way bigger with little power

[small shale]

here's odin 2 vs x55, same size screen as this, and similar design

[ancient finch]

offset sticks & arc footprint will be bigger. I believe

[mortal sigil]

Weirdness. I'll take a picture of the screens on both my original RG35XX and the RG35XX Plus later today to show the difference, but on my units the Plus screen is substantially dimmer than the original at max brightness. Yay Anbernic quality control?

[rigid kestrel]

That would be using StockOS brightness adjustments

CFW (like muOS) doesn't adhere to that and the brightness is just as bright if not brighter

[mortal sigil]

Ah, that probably explains it! I've got MinUI on my original RG35XX and just the stock firmware on the RG35XX Plus.

[lapis nimbus]

Some more shitposting from Max, the diplomat

Translation:

"other than showing off and confusing newcomers who don't understand, such a large area of heat sink is actually ineffective; the heat dissipation area is too large. It's only for show, or perhaps the designer is simply ignorant of the science and technology of thermal design."

[devout spruce]

That argument seems to ignore the positive benefit from it where you are not heating part of the casing as much as you could be

[wary aspen]

Which device is this in the pic?

[lapis nimbus]

RP4

[wary aspen]

I mean except for the hinge issue, most of the Retroid devices have been rock solid with few issues. I’d pick a Retroid over some of his designs any day.

[south rune]

Why does Max care at all?

[silent elk]

Might be salty because the RP4 is more powerful than his upcoming device right off the bat

[devout spruce]

WHich company does he work for?

[wary aspen]

He does the designs for Anbernic from my understanding

[sour tendon]

Don't see any point to this at all.

[wintry hill]

18 months later, and the win600 is still Anbernic's most powerful device.

He's just annoyed at being overtaken by....a lot of manufacturers.

[rough heron]

Anbernic also releases way more products than Retroid. I doubt Anbernic is terribly concerned about what other companies are releasing. They will still release their products regardless and people will still buy them. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[wary aspen]

At least the other companies / designers aren’t openly bashing the competition. No need for it, because as mentioned people are still going to buy Anbernic devices, just like people are still going to buy the others.

[rough heron]

I agree, I don't follow what companies or designers say. Just like when there is drama with devs for emulators and such. I never follow any of that. No time for that. 🙂

[wary aspen]

It seems really childish to argue about stuff on the internet for pointless reasons. At the end of the day if you’re gaming and enjoy it awesome!

[rough heron]

I just want fun good devices, I'm not picky about how they get there lol

[rough heron]

That's why we are here, fun and enjoyment. 😄

Those guys can do whatever they want, I'll stay ignorant of it by choice and have fun gaming

[lapis nimbus]

Seems like this is RG556 with the metal shield removed

[small shale]

it's not pointless when it's their job

but it's not a very professional way to go about it

[ancient finch]

Cooling is confusing, way too good. Or useless setup?

[lapis nimbus]

IDK, maybe the plan is to overclock that T820 a lot?

Seemed kinda weird to me that the Geekbench scores for the RG556 were the same as for that ZTE phone with T820 to begin with

[ancient finch]

RG405v fan works but not very use case based

[ancient finch]

If i am using fan. I will overclock 10-20% on all cores compered stock

on High performance mode

Is there any mention of battery size on this one yet?

[lapis nimbus]

Nah, nothing

I am not sure if this cooling is actually good. My lizard brain naturally goes “oooh, all black, must be well made”, but I am not knowledgeable enough beyond that lol

[ancient finch]

Its weight might be more any other Anbernic device earlier

[velvet dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/ineedit-needit-spongebob-squarepants-need-it-gif-4883495

[hollow birch]

I don't know how you could look at that and feel desire for it. Odin 2 has better start&select/back&home button locations, superior analog sticks, probably a superior d-pad, front firing speakers, probably way more performance

It better be cheap, that's the only thing it would have going for it

Well, at least it does have a v-shape control layout, it has that going for it

[velvet dagger]

I see an Anbernic logo button

I just have a bad case of gear acquisition syndrome

[devout spruce]

Like that it has grips below the triggers unlike the retroid, but the chipset seems a little uninspiring

On the plus side, the sooner they get this one out, the sooner they can move onto other form factors using the chipset

[formal plaza]

that white looks like a magnet for dirt

[velvet dagger]

I wish it was white matte

[devout spruce]

That white looks like a preproduction engineering sample, horrendously glossy

[red plover]

All about price now

[devout spruce]

Chipset should put it at $150, screen will push it up higher though, slightly odd combo really

[red plover]

The nubia phone with it was $190 US and that featured data support and high refresh along with 256gb so I’m hopefully for something like $150

[devout spruce]

Shame that almost nobody seems to want to do usbc ports on top and bottom

[red plover]

Gpu scores seem higher than I thought they would be. on the positive looks really close to d900

[wintry hill]

Very accommodating of retroid to cancel the RP4 just in time for this to come out.

Maybe they are the same company as Anbernic?

[lapis nimbus]

Yeah, no, I hate glossy shells with a passion

Maybe these don’t have coating though? The buttons look unfinished (no labels, though I kinda dig that). Arc was also first revealed like that

Then again, with Arc Anbernic has put a disclaimer on literally every shot saying “this shell does not have coating, not a final look” lol, and here they are putting these next to boxes

[carmine crown]

https://youtu.be/iSbdWq9v1_E?si=G9HhrXsDRcmfrZEk

[azure quest]

OK. 👍
I want it

No joke I may cancel my rp4 pro order

[carmine crown]

@azure quest If Anbernic comes out with a RG406M or P I'm buying it day one.

[red plover]

dang it now I want to as well

[mystic otter]

No HDMI out :(

[gaunt timber]

Interested in that 5.5" oled panel, maybe I can say goodbye to my Pocket Air soon

https://twitter.com/RetroHandhelds/status/1748631015550230793?t=4AAnASYS4Hcj4JP-Pnglfg&s=19

Retro Handhelds (@RetroHandhelds) on X

The Anbernic RG556 is an Android handheld with a D1200 and a 5.5" OLED screen. This is on par with the RP4 Pro. We expect to see this one sooner than later. What do you think?

Twitter · Jan 20, 2024, 8:58 AM

[azure quest]

Instabuy if it is actually has an oled screen

[hearty scroll]

I thought this had the unisoc t820 not the d1200

[gaunt timber]

Source? I would love to not have it be D1200 😆

[hearty scroll]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/s/1bUFrhzCTP

This is where i first found this

[gaunt timber]

Ah thanks, I'll update!

[hearty scroll]

Same perf as regular RP4 (not pro)

Roughly

[viral depot]

D900 and Tiger820 are close in benchmarks according to link at the top of this channel

[red plover]

Based on the nubia 5g (t820) it hits 2k in 3dmark wild life as well

[viral depot]

Looks like about twice as powerful as t618

[red plover]

https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/compare/4130934?baseline=4314640

Here is it vs t618

[lapis nimbus]

Why though? 🙂

[red plover]

Power consumption

I’m guessing

[formal plaza]

dimensity drivers

also suck

[gaunt timber]

Power consumption and drivers

[red plover]

They both use Mali gpus it’s gonna be similar

[gaunt timber]

Yeah

[formal plaza]

pocketable odin lite goes hard tbh

[red plover]

Poor rp4 pro does get cooked though at least the soc

[lapis nimbus]

Okay, can someone who speaks Mandarin please explain this to me?

Google Translate makes it seem like a lot of comments on Open Source Handhelds bar on Baidu talk about urine and peeing for some reason:

估计要便携没便携，要性能没性能，最后用好尿做工设计来当卖点 — It is estimated that it should be portable but not portable, and the performance should not be performance. Finally, use good urine workmanship design as a selling point.

舍得用尿了? — Are you willing to pee?

I assume this is a word that sounds similar, or maybe it's some kind of meme, or just a general glitch (kinda how Google Translate always calls Retroid Pocket "Sand Sculpture"), but it's really confusing

[formal plaza]

the anberbic piss edition

[silent elk]

That’s the liquid cooling

[red plover]

It wasn’t glossy just had liquid on it

[lapis nimbus]

I see those "please use good urine" comments all the time on Baidu it's crazy lol

[gaunt timber]

Finally a pee handheld for us

We must use our best urine

[red plover]

Just be careful of doing a test taste

[gaunt timber]

I would never

@normal olive this is everything you wanted

[hearty scroll]

Someone over there has health problems if they pee blue 😅

[formal plaza]

https://youtu.be/cCK3ecExDUM?si=WV2rF8Th8xlvuzSM i found a vid of a nubia neo emulation test

[red plover]

It looks like the arc but with a different layout and stretched out

[viral depot]

No hdmi is disappointing

[red plover]

Might be able to do it via usb c

[formal plaza]

when has anbernic ever had a hdmi out on anything tbf

[lapis nimbus]

Everything except for Unisoc devices, actually

[mystic otter]

very

[lapis nimbus]

All Rockchip devices except for 351 have HDMI

[mystic otter]

my RG35XX has an HDMI out

[formal plaza]

tbh im kinda interested in this but i know that

1. the software gonna suck ass
2. Not trusting the hardware at all after my experience with the rg505

[mystic otter]

and my partner's 353M

[red plover]

I just want usb c out at least

[formal plaza]

i did now know that 🫡

[lapis nimbus]

Yeah, out of all devices that have BT, I think only their Unisoc devices don't have HDMI

[mystic otter]

my 505 can technically get video out through the usc-c but it sucks and has no sound or something according to people

[red plover]

I didn’t think it could at all

[mystic otter]

someone has posted a video of it

[red plover]

Albeit I haven’t attempted it on my 405

[mystic otter]

it's just uhh

very suboptimal

[viral depot]

Nice find

[formal plaza]

https://youtu.be/7ckgye6YKyc?si=lBmkoR2Ht6wq7rA1 wasnt need for speed a game that had graphical issues on the rp4 pro
this seems to be okayish

[red plover]

Did he tweak anything?

[lapis nimbus]

Nah, it ran fine in last Taki's video at 2x

[red plover]

It’s normally 60 right or am I wrong?

I don’t play racing games

[lapis nimbus]

Then again, this is a cheapish phone without any cooling, so maybe RG556 will be able to extract some extra performance

[scarlet portal]

BASARA SPOTTED

[red plover]

https://youtu.be/vv0927WX87g?si=R2V5MtPYl_-8_sJa

[devout spruce]

hopefully a 406p or better still a 456p or 506p rather than a metal one

[red plover]

English review of the phone has genshin and benchmarks

[formal plaza]

he also has a vid of the naruto game that always runs good

[mystic otter]

i guess some ps2, gamecube games will reach 2x resolution albeit a lot wont

[scarlet portal]

also it's struggling a bit actually and basara isn't hard to run at all

[formal plaza]

i found one for star rail, it seemed kinda slow

[formal plaza]

i dont think the poster tweaks anything

https://youtu.be/9bl36fbsdJ4?si=rfUFYWIFw3zxemJ6

this one is english too

tbh i kinda like how the phone looks

[scarlet portal]

i mean, i'm just saying to not expect odin pro lvls of performance

[formal plaza]

ah hes doing max settings

[scarlet portal]

maybe like rp3+?

[red plover]

It’s a chip from the same company that’s higher tier it’s gonna be above t618

[viral depot]

Better than 3+ ... odin lite ish maybe

[scarlet portal]

around that but slightly lower from what i'm seeing in those tests

[red plover]

That’s high genshin not low

That’s much better than t618

[formal plaza]

so its like
rp3+/rg405M
RG556 (roughly)
Odin Lite/Rp 4
Rp4Pro/Pocket Air
Odin 2
is the tier of power im seeing right

[scarlet portal]

yeah i'd put it here too

[red plover]

Where does the pimax place

[formal plaza]

rp4 base vs rg556 would be a fun discussion prolly

[hearty scroll]

Yeah sounds about right

[formal plaza]

RG Nano tier

[scarlet portal]

vanish tier

[formal plaza]

tbh i dont even remember the specs of the pimax

[red plover]

It’s an 865 basically

[formal plaza]

neat

[red plover]

It’s gonna be interesting to see how close or far off from d900 this is

[formal plaza]

what if the 556 has the the 552 screen

[red plover]

What was the size of that one?

[gaunt timber]

552 was IPS and 3:2 if I recall

[formal plaza]

nvm then 🫡💔

[red plover]

Are they still saying it’s going to be oled because the chip did change

[gaunt timber]

Nittrx says oled, that's what I went off of

[molten glade]

have we seen that dpad design before? it looks new to me

the buttons are blank so maybe thats just a placeholder piece theyre using

[red plover]

Reminds me of the Wii U pro controller

[hearty scroll]

Looks like a smooth 35xx+ dpad

[formal plaza]

im too used to the vita style dpads that other ones just feel wrong

[red plover]

No1 can convince the white is not inspired by this

[hearty scroll]

Same. Win4 as my main.

[formal plaza]

i can see it

wii u retro handheld would be crazy

[hearty scroll]

Shame they are still using switch sticks 😔

So tired of those now

[formal plaza]

we as a society have moved past the need for switch sticks

[viral depot]

Battery from pictures of the inside is 5500mah

[formal plaza]

also dpad on bottom 🤢

[hearty scroll]

V shaped controls are nice. Should make it comfy

[formal plaza]

true

i just have really big hands

[red plover]

Can they do a clear orange plz

[formal plaza]

true as hell

transparent green

[hearty scroll]

I like the clear design, but its a bit mute when the whole back is a heat shield 😂

[formal plaza]

the front looks really cool though

[devout spruce]

The backs on transparent casing devices always look so messy anyway compared with the front

[hearty scroll]

Front is cool yeah. Light bleed from sticks though i imagine

First thing i would turn off 😅

[red plover]

I didn’t even notice the rgb 😅 hope the price is closer to rp4 than pro

[hearty scroll]

This is anbernic we are talking about 😂 it will be cheap for first 48hrs only haha

[red plover]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-run-gif-6802571979526052001

[formal plaza]

167 for the first 48 hours
175 after

[hearty scroll]

Sounds like a fair estimate

[red plover]

Insta buy at that price for me…. My wallet will hate me but so be it

[pliant estuary]

This thing's D-pad looks pretty bad. Anybody else think so?

[hearty scroll]

Russ will hate this if they do a glossy black model

https://tenor.com/view/fingerprint-gif-18677802

[devout spruce]

He'd be right too, hopefully those aren't final plastics as they are seriously fugly

[wintry hill]

My V90 can do TV out 😄

[wintry hill]

Just as the update fixed the wellness and YouTube error messages 😄

[ancient finch]

What if instead complete white it was, Silver Grey

[red plover]

but where would I leave my finger prints

[devout spruce]

matte finish and not two-tone would be better

[ancient finch]

Matte with checker texture at back for more grip

[worn robin]

chinese word for piss is a meme for “materials”

[lapis nimbus]

Seriously? 🙂 could you please explain, why?

[molten glade]

its a pun most likely

[worn robin]

phonetically sound the same piss and materials

[molten glade]

chinese languages go crazy with their puns

yea

[lapis nimbus]

Ah, makes sense, thanks

[hearty scroll]

Ummm hint of asparagus

😂

[south rune]

https://tenor.com/view/toddlers-and-tiaras-big-grin-excited-girl-giddy-smile-gif-25584914

[topaz kayak]

What’s the screen resolution?

[brisk canyon]

Pin this pls. 😆

[sturdy talon]

tbh i am fine either way

i just want my 4:3 endgame with at least 1x GC/ps2

[ancient finch]

Hopefully, RG406P can be true with analog triggers

[teal flare]

Shitty Anbernic's android ?

[azure quest]

At least its not another rk3566

[sturdy talon]

true

[devout spruce]

Just the Arc and 353ps from them using that in the last year, they have already done that many H700 devices.

[velvet dagger]

the next rk3566 we are expecting is from powkiddy

[devout spruce]

It's what they do!

[sturdy talon]

i am hoping for another weirdass formactor from powkiddy

[leaden mountain]

It’s GLOSSY? Come on man

[ancient finch]

Its a optimism speaking. Any progress is good progress.

[stuck steppe]

Hoping Anbernic just sends you one... considering you're the only dev saving their android devices.

[azure quest]

Let's see 🙈
Would ideally need 2 so that I can first create an unbricker

Like the I did for the 405v

Also this is Android 13, GammaOS is based on Android 12

Not sure if I can just create one big diff patch from untouched lineage to my current state, then apply that to Lineage 20

Or I could be lazy and just put the current GammaOS on there.
Let's see how the stock firmware does first

[ancient finch]

Was comparing T820 vs Snapdragon 720G from sites & other listing, T820 performs better. Do you think with FAN & Overclock might make do any magic. Good Wii games widescreen is only need

[azure quest]

The fan does make a difference on the 405v for sustained performance, doesn't necessarily improve FPS but prevents it from dropping.

Up to Anbernic if they can overclock this chipset, but at the very least it will keep performance consistent

405v difference when using fan vs without

[ancient finch]

It was more than decade back, I owned Sony Xperia with Single 1 GHz and just 512MB RAM

I did hack level rooting, kernel tweaks to overclock upto 1.5 ghz

[ancient finch]

Yep sustain performance is key, All core at max when & if needed

[ancient finch]

Aren't new lineage firmware able to overclock like good old days with "STABLE" result. I am way out loop on dev now

[azure quest]

The overclock needs to be done at kernel level, need to add frequencies to the opp-table and also modify any pll tables too

Sometimes there is also a dtb in the uboot that needs updating too, usually contains the opp-table too

[ancient mirage]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this.

Anbernic seemed to be doing really well with their designs. Then this happens 😆

[ancient finch]

Current design is good, no grip required or off putting while shuffling DPAD and Stick

They screwed with proprietary R button & combined home/back button

Why they need to find new place for SELECT & START

[tawdry pasture]

Makes me giggle when people complain about the placement of start and select

So t820 is confirmed? What does that cap at? Can it do most gamecube ? 😮

So those 2 week old leaks of design and benchmarks wer all very accurate.

[lapis nimbus]

Yeah, I don't have issues with the layout at all, it's the glossy finish that I really hate

[ancient finch]

Difference of opinion, choices is a thing. There's always fun about it companies making something for everyone

[lapis nimbus]

Oh, absolutely

If a device thread on Discord doesn't have at least 200-300 comments about how the stick placement is wrong (doesn't matter what layout the device actually has), it means nobody cares about the device

If the device doesn't have sticks, then the comments will be about whether it should, etc

[tawdry pasture]

100%. I'm just happy to be playing my favourite child hood games in a package that fits in my pocket and is getting cheaper at better every single year.

Can't wait for a video on this, is it the same display used in the Aya Neo Pocket Air?

[south rune]

I never understand the comments of “why get this” or “why does this exist” I always like choice. Anyways this looks great to me. Besides that glossy finish

[molten glade]

the gloss is a bit.. yea

it feels cheap

like uh

its not the same but it has this kinda vibe yknow

[stuck steppe]

Lots of the comments on Baidu are expressing concern that the OLED will most likely have a crappy backlight PWM, meaning it will cause severe eye strain...

Kind of like my Galaxy S9.

[azure quest]

Hmm which 5.5 inch oled display from that generation exists?

These are 5.5" oled displays (all resolutions)
https://m.gsmarena.com/results.php3?fDisplayInchesMin=5.5&fDisplayInchesMax=5.5&nDisplayDensityMax=460&sDisplayTechs=2

1080p
https://m.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nDisplayResMin=2073600&nDisplayResMax=2073600&fDisplayInchesMin=5.5&fDisplayInchesMax=5.5&nDisplayDensityMax=460&sDisplayTechs=2

[paper fossil]

Material is liao and urine is niao in chinese, they're different in standard chinese. However, maxzhou speaks with a dialect accent which pronounces liao as nian, that's where this joke comes from.

please notice the "yong how niao " part LOL

[tight whale]

I see far superior ergonomics--v-shaped control layout and grips that extend below the bulk of the device, potentially allowing you to grip it with your full hands (Odin 2 is almost there but my pinkies just kind of float). The Odin 2 might have an amazing d-pad, but the ergonomics when using it are so bad I think that cancels out the quality of the d-pad itself. Am I interested in buying this? Of course not--I already have an Odin 2, and overall, for me, the Odin 2 is the superior device. But for someone who prioritizes ergonomics over what you and I might prioritize? I 100% see the appeal.

[wintry hill]

This thing will be in a completely different price bracket. It'll likely be half what the pro costs, and the base is never in stock.

It's like comparing an RP2S to an RP4 pro.

[chilly chasm]

Almost guaranteed 🤣

[ancient finch]

Determine Price Reasonableness - Anbernic made choices which wasn't inline with reality in the past

[wintry hill]

If non-oled, they would be insane to go beyond $180 with this.

[carmine crown]

Personally I'd prefer an AMOLED. Then I can take it outside without potentially damaging it.

[azure quest]

If it is AMOLED, I suspect it will be the Galaxy A7 (2015) screen. It's likely that there is a surplus of those IMO

But thats just speculation

[carmine crown]

According to the specs it should be pretty close.

[carmine crown]

No

[vocal veldt]

This thing is so fugly

[carmine crown]

This Handheld needs to hit the $150 - $180 with Shipping and Handling price range in order for it to sell well.

[carmine crown]

Hasn't been finalized and released yet. 😕

[sturdy trail]

What a bleh chip for an oled screen

Anbernic seems to love the business of just ever so underpowered chips

[jade walrus]

Probably more like the whatever they can get the cheapest chip.

[chilly chasm]

They also like to slowly iterate

[jade walrus]

They won't get SD and look at the D1100 doesn't look like the best option unless they all develop better drivers and stuff. So maybe they could of used the 900? But might be easier using unisoc with current available drivers and such.

[lapis nimbus]

Awesome, thanks 🙂

[lapis nimbus]

I’ve seen a lot of those as well, but I’m honestly not sure how these users could know which screen Anbernic will use

Either way I would definitely wait for a review, preferably from Taki

[uncut sage]

For real, the only thing going for the 505 was that it was mildly pocketable if you were desperate (outside of price of course). I hope they don't change the 406m much outside of specs needed for perfect PS2 and HDMI out. Right now a 406m with rp4pro specs is my dream machine

[lapis nimbus]

I’m confused why you need to compare this with Odin 2. If this costs as much, this will be DOA

And Anbernic has okayish prices these days IMO

[stuck steppe]

I thought they posted early bird pricing was like $180.

[ancient finch]

What if, they update this model with Snapdragon.

[chilly chasm]

I don’t think Anbernic will ever use Snapdragon

[uncut sage]

Then I'll wait til they update the 405m(same form factor and HDMI out) with snapdragon. That's be a dream come true

[ancient finch]

Qualcomm if only they make Snapdragon G series dirt cheap for Android Handheld

[glad forum]

https://retrohandhelds.gg/anbernic-rg556-revealed/ Here's a short article on the reveal, by our very own @molten glade

[lapis nimbus]

Everyone seems to be relying on GadgetVersus to claim T820 is more power-efficient than Dimensity, I'm not sure how reliable their data is

Like GV says T820 has a TDP of 5W and D900 is 10W

T770 is also 5W

But it also says T760 is 10W, why would it need twice the power? Same core setup, same GPU, same memory https://gadgetversus.com/processor/unisoc-tanggula-t760-vs-unisoc-tiger-t820/

And I've not been able to find any official source to support these numbers.

In other cases (e.g. RK3588) GadgetVersus uses power consumption data for a whole SBC to say how much the chip needs, so who knows what they use here

On the other hand, in Taki's review RP4 Pro peaked at about 12W total, I think — so could be that 5W for T820 is accurate, but 10W for D900/D1100 is not

But would be awesome if true — more efficient chip with 10% more battery

[chilly chasm]

Yea, take those websites with a grain of salt. They’re not bad to get an idea of what to expect but wait for hard data.

[sand pumice]

Agree. They did not help when we were researching the Razor Edge Handheld. Wrong Data.

[sturdy talon]

ok the wait for 456/406 is on now with 556 revealed

[south rune]

I am happy anbernic is trying with higher end android handhelds. Have my fingers crossed that some rp4(non pro) people sell theirs off for this.

[next shore]

Good article. If T810 is comparable with the d900, but with better battery, it’s a great platform compete vs RP4 non-pro.

[normal olive]

The issue with that, unless Anbernic lands close in price. Those selling the RP4 non pro will sell for fairly close to MSRP. That's what happened with the 2+ and 3+

[next shore]

As for the RP4 Pro, they already have the Win600 with similar battery life

[sturdy talon]

unless you are in EU

retroid is usually horrible for eu pricing

[south rune]

Oh I am ok with that. I don’t need a deal. I just don’t want to deal with waiting for Retroid to ship.

I think this comes in at 180ish dollars.

[normal olive]

Those are the estimates currently

[south rune]

If it’s over that price I don’t think it does well in the west. With the other options out there. How much is a Odin2 base again? Are they 300 or 350? AYN and Retroid helped lower anbernic prices.

Just checked the AYN site. Guess they sold out of the Base models. The pro is 369 before shipping.

[sand pumice]

And that is the thing with odin 2, RAM is starting at 8gb. These other companies like Anbernic need to start increasing the ram along with the SOC. I just don't see why some of them are stuck at 1gb or 2gb of system ram.

[south rune]

How much ram do their T618 handheld have?

[wintry hill]

It's been sold out pretty constantly for a long time now.

[devout spruce]

Realistically, won't anbernic stick with one chipset for any form factor variants, that's what the last number in their models indicates with them after all

[south rune]

I saw a community post from RGC this week it was back in stock. Guess they sold out fast

[devout spruce]

Lasted a few hours at most iirc

[wintry hill]

3 or 4

[south rune]

I just don’t have lots of things open at once on a handheld for ram to be a real problem. I know switch emulation needs more. Besides that. I am fine with 4-6GBs

Also RAM is the cheapest upgrade and companies charge the most for

[wintry hill]

I've seen Vita3k asking for about 9 GB at times.

[normal olive]

My Pocket Air has 6gb of ram for example

[south rune]

Oh yeah I forget about vita3k at times. What games are still stuck on the vita. I guess there are some good ps2 titles ported over that might play better through the vita3k

You can also load PSP games into ram using ppsspp. If I remember correctly

[wintry hill]

And PS3 titles.

Gravity rush is the big Vita one. Runs pretty much perfect now.

My pocket Air is 12gb, and it can only just handle the ram requirement. But other than the Ram, Vita3k is surprisingly undemanding. The Pocket Air is fine to upscale 5x, 6x, as much as you want on a lot of games.

[south rune]

Nice

How does borderlands 2 handle. Does emulation fix the dips on the vita ?

[wintry hill]

It's just that the lack of RAM in handhelds throws people I think. Run out of RAM and it crashes. So people think it's a buggy emulator, when it just needs more RAM.

Once they get those requirements down I imagine it'll run really well on T618's.

[wintry hill]

Never done it myself, but I know that one does play well.

[south rune]

As long as it’s supported. I remember you used have to high end PC to run WiiU in 2018. Not you can get way with a lot.

[wintry hill]

The new Next Lite is $300, and will be able to run BoTW better than the Wii U did.

[south rune]

I am just happy that we are moving in the correct direction.

Just need someone to pick up that ps2 torch.

[wintry hill]

At this rate, it'll be quicker to just wait for winlator to get good enough to run Pcsx2 😄

[red plover]

Take that with a huge grain of salt d1200 at least can hit 12w

T820 on 6nm probably goes beyond 5w

Even g99 with only 2 a76 could pull above 5w

[spare grail]

man

I'm so conflicted on this

this seems like the oled sequel to the 505 I was waiting for

but it looks so dang ugly to me lol

[sturdy talon]

i kinda like it even though i am no directly interested in it 😄

[spare grail]

pls let there be different colorways with a different finish

[sturdy talon]

sounds liek good base for what i want aka 4:3 device with similar specs and buttons

[red plover]

I’m waiting on the screen to be announced they changed the soc. The screen might have as well from the rumors

[spare grail]

didn't they just confirm 1080p oled like yesterday

[red plover]

I don’t think it’s been confirmed

It’s a possibility as the og rumor was d1200+1080p 5.5 oled

[spare grail]

I'm going off of the post on reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/comments/19b54xb/_/

[ancient finch]

Possible 2 versions like Retroid?

[red plover]

I get that but that post doesn’t link to any source for that info

It’s just a reference back to the og rumor but, the chip has been changed from said rumor

[abstract hatch]

The rumor of oled was still with d1200

So hard to say

Perhaps they got same oled as ayaneo now?

[spare grail]

yea I know the old rumor

[autumn grove]

With this chipset I kinda hope it’s just a 720p lcd and the handheld is cheap rather than 1080p OLED and it’s expensive

[red plover]

That’s a potential for sure (would be my guess) but I don’t feel confident in that guess

[south rune]

My only complaint about it is the glossy look of it

[autumn grove]

Basically replace the x55/x28 with something that can do some ps2/gc

[spare grail]

if it is an oled with this chipset

what do you guys think the pricing will be

[red plover]

I don’t see anbernic doing a <200 oled t820

The phone with it at $190 was lcd

[autumn grove]

This is gonna lose hard to the RP4 pro if they go near $200

Assuming it is t820 and not d1200

[spare grail]

that's what I'm hoping

[red plover]

The closer to $150 the better

[ancient finch]

Whether they loose or win, they keep the Ergo Design for "Next revision"

[south rune]

180 would work well for pricing

[red plover]

I think that would be the okay middle ground where it’s asking a decent amount but not too much where no1 is interested

[autumn grove]

I just hope the t820 runs cool enough that it can properly replace the t618 in the smaller categories (406 wen)

[red plover]

Guess we will find out soon. Would be nice though 406m with a higher res 4:3 screen

[south rune]

I think anbernic waits until after CNY

[next shore]

Seems complicated but it wouldn’t surprise me if they needed to scramble when they learned about the RP4 Pro. Feels like Ayaneo had to scramble with the pocket air when they learned about the Odin 2

[red plover]

I have no idea the behind the scenes stuff. I would like an oled but if it makes it cost too much probably not

It does feel like a after cny device but nice to see some early shots of it

[next shore]

552 was expensive (still is) maybe a 506 or 406 will be more budget conscious

Oddly an OLED seems like a big deal now, but it did not give the 505 mindshare over the RP3+, at least here in the US

[south rune]

I don’t think they scramble with anything. I think it was in the works for a while. Just the timing makes it look that way.

Pocket air was coming out before we knew about the official Odin2

[next shore]

Maybe, but Ayaneo releasing the pocket air, stopping future production and also announcing they have something else “feels” like a scramble

[south rune]

AYAneo said they had to sell them at a loss. I see why they discontinued them.

[next shore]

Yikes, I guess they had to fulfill the preorders based on their announcement. Good on them for not changing the price Tesla-style

[south rune]

Like Poe said a oled screen in this wouldn’t be a great idea. I think that is why the pocket air was so much

[hearty scroll]

https://youtu.be/-pHBXDVkzbo?feature=shared

Just posted. States T820

[wintry hill]

There is good OLED, and there is old Vita panel OLED.

[red plover]

I don’t trust nitrx ngl

[wintry hill]

They were always a limited run. They were sold at cost to get rid of the d1200 chips, as they unexpectedly got a good deal with SD for the chip in the Pocket S.

[wintry hill]

$100 more than the RP4 pro, but bigger, bigger fan, free DHL shipping, free case, bigger battery, OLED....you can see how the extra costs add up.

[south rune]

I didn’t know that was their plan the whole time. I just remember saying that they made no money on them

[south rune]

Yep

[red plover]

We know it got delayed if u go off the leaked road map it was supposed to be a q3 device not q4. I’m assuming the android build was in a worse state than it already is causing a delay

[wintry hill]

It certainly wasn't the original plan 😄

Initially they wanted to do the D1200 as an ongoing thing. But once they got the deal on the snap dragon chips they changed their mind. But yeah, they sold at cost just to clear the chips, as they didn't want them. It's why when the chips all sell they are not making any more.

[south rune]

Software and price are the two biggest factors

[red plover]

Community fix or it’s bad probably on this one

[south rune]

Makes sense.

Gamma said he was going to cancel his rp4 order. He might of been joking

[wintry hill]

Can't seem to get the Rp4 anymore either, might have been cancelled. Certainly didn't sell out

Retroid need the Flip 2 to save them 😄

Although I imagine if they were planning to put a d1100 in that, they may be rethinking plans given the Rp4 pro heat issues.

[south rune]

Didn’t Max post about the heating setup on the rp4

[ancient finch]

Does Anbernic take petition - I have one for them using a "Snapdragon CPU" on next handheld

[wintry hill]

Yeah, he saying they didn't know what they were doing.

I'm not sure he counts as an unbiased judge though

[red plover]

This looks a lot better than the rp4 but that’s just my opinion. It has a heatpipe along with a bigger heatsink

[south rune]

True lol

[mystic otter]

id get it if it had a stronger chipset and hdmi out

[red plover]

Tbf to the rp4 even the pocket air needs it’s fan on it or it overheats and it’s got a bigger cooler

[wintry hill]

Let's hope they work out a way to fix it anyway.

[abstract hatch]

Image is bad but don’t seem to be oled

Hard to say tho

[deep valve]

Just thrilled they need to keep switch sticks

[hollow birch]

It's classic anbernic, switch style sticks, minor iterative performance boost that doesn't really mean much, nice and shiny price tag

[livid steeple]

Lol right? I understand the switch sticks for a more compact device, but not for something as big as this.

[azure quest]

I was considering it
But I'll keep it for now and wait for more details

[wet plover]

This looks amazing.

dpad-on-top people continue to seethe

[uneven mica]

I will consider if: less expensive than rp4 and capable of some GameCube. But I’m not hopeful.

This might put some stiff competition against the Gameforce ACE though.

[wet plover]

I have a gpd xp plus which also has a d1200. i can post some ultrawide 21:9 gamecube running at 2x resolution if you want

[uneven mica]

Wait I thought this was unisoc

I’ve owned a pocket air so I know what the 1200 can do. This is kind of a PAir clone then…

[wet plover]

oh wait, no nevermind, they dropped that that was the 506 not 556

[chilly chasm]

No, we want thiccc Megaman

[uneven mica]

Unisoc T820… so more similar to d900 ?

So more in line with base rp4

In theory anyway