#Miyoo Flip
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its amazing for the 405 tho!
those retroid drivers
Anyone get a review unit yet?
Wait
TWIN CARD SETUP?
Does that mean we can install whole new firmware on it instead of add-ons to factory firmware? (OnionOS is NOT a firmware)
Oh wait, that's already a known fact from way back
That means it might support Android and Linux
What console gen would this chip reach? Or is it going to be the same as the mm+?
below dreamcast
thank goodness they at least put the lighter colored sticks on the white model 😅 the pastel buttons vibe-clashed so bad with the black sticks
N64/DC
I like the idea of the sticks, but i'm not sure what the use case is on a chip that will barely run DC/N64?
The RK3566 will run most N64 (not Mario tennis, but most), and a lot of Dreamcast as well.
And a decent amount of PSP/Saturn.
if GammaOS lite gets on here and we get access to Muper64FZ, most N64 will be playable with tweaking
I mean, I've seen people running switch emulation on rk3566's that have android 
Oh, I wouldn't call it decent performance for switch. I mean, it technically ran....
SNES all the way
black looks shiny, could be a fingerprint magnet
What’s the difference between the rk3566 and h700 on the sp? Better or worse?
I don't think that has anything to do with having two cards
There are standalone firmwares for the original Miyoo Mini, after all
Better, not by a whole lot
But I mean, this should be miles ahead of anything Miyoo had before
Yeah, rk3566 is a little bit better than h700. main difference is that certain saturn games are quite good playable (with frameskip) on rk3566 , which is not the case for h700.
As in, replacing the whole linux subsystem on the eMMC?
No, just a whole Linux system on one card — like Allium
Most CFWs don't actually require two cards, it's more of a convenience
anbernic used rk3566 a lot in their "3" series so it's a known quantity
after "3" came "XX"
one thing to note, every single rk3566 device I have used comes with a noisy headphone output
I wonder if it might get Rocknix?
I think the US SNES colour is the best out of the 4.
背包胖熊 (A likely associated Miyoo dev) says the left slot is for other systems and the Miyoo system will mostly use the right slot
hmm I have to say Yellow looks nice now, like Miyoo Mini V4 yellow, not like yellowed white anymore xD
So essentially this will get some sort of dual boot solution
Hopefully this thing turns out to be at least good
Wow they’re really doing nicotine yellow
adding to the already mentioned n64 and DC, you can always use them in old pc fps ports like Quakes and Dooms 😉 also when Gamma Core gets ported over you will be able to play KOTOR on it 😄 imagine playing it on such small device 🥰
From QQ chatroom. Note: Angry Birds and Pac-Man Championship Edition had PSP releases
Powdered skittles as buttons start to grow on me,
I wish the white one didn’t have the Easter buttons on it
I think its beige, not white, if you dont like the buttons I think Sakura will make his usual colorways for it.
Oh is it actually beige?
I’ll be going with the Snes anyway
I think so, but it could be the lighting on the photos, yeah SNES US looks the best.
Once these come out, I wonder how long it would take for transparent versions 
Man I need to know the thickness of this thing closed up. It looks fairly compact but I've been stung before. Also need to know that hinge design and if it'll hold up. Looking at you GPD Win 2 and RP Flip.
I think it's white with a slight gray-ish tint. There is a light source of warm light on the left in some pictures that makes it look beige.
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hmm still looks kinda beige to me, compare it to the white cup on the right
We will see.
I mean it would probably make more sense that its white seeing they already have a grey option
@coarse tulip it's probably a no but did they mention if they'll supply a SDK/sources with the dev units?
I'll ask my guy, but I doubt they mentioned that. They've been a bit short on details. Suns leaning towards there's a decent language barrier because sometimes they confuse each other and it can take a day or so for replies with the time differences.
ok guys, i saw the new video and no words about screen sizes or analog used
I'm stsrting to think that someone from miyoo is here just for troll other people
I don't even think we have a cost right? Like what's this thing going to run us?
the cost is interesting
last year, because the chip and the design, i remember that people prices most likely around 100
now the rgb30 is at 40 and you can have for less even the rg35xxsp, i would imagine a possible price max 60
speaking in pounds
RGB30 for £40? Maybe before AliExpress add their tax, and from one of those shops that charge £10 for shipping 
You are broadly right though, the rk3566's have come down a lot over the past year. I find the x55 in particular to be great value for what you get.
i paid mine £45 after tax
Man I love that pastel dream cast theme
Idk if they’re going for Dreamcast but that’s what it reminds me of
I think that RK3566 is slightly better on paper (benchmarks). But MuOS with H700 is very well optimized I beleive. Anyway, I like Myioo's thickness way more than Anbernic's.
Aish said he did some testing, and the h700 sits pretty much in the middle of the rk3566 and rk3326.
Can anyone guess what consoles the flip will be able to play up to?
some n64, some dreamcast, some psp, some saturn
like every rk3566
Cool. Anyone have any guesses on price point?
I’d expect not too far off from the RG35XXSP?
Yeah true
probably less
It's more powerful than that one, so maybe $10 more than the SP launch price or something.
even better
3566 is mainlined and has great drivers these days so as soon as CFW gets developed you can expect more than half the PSP catalog to run
That said, miyoo initially priced the A30 insanely high for what it was, and pretty much halved it quickly, so who knows.
probably the same with this
they all do the same thing really, anbernics are really expensive for a few weeks
cause it flopped initially, it was raised back up
its to punish people that dont fall for the hype cycle early on so they dont get the early bird discount
sorta
N64 is still a shitshow
you need to brute force it
i meant the other way around
this chip will do a good bit of games well enough
depending on how rice is feeling that week
it's much cheaper to wait a month and to buy on aliexpress
yeah i know, i mean the weeks right after the early bird discount
The most demanding n64 game I play is Yoshi honestly lol
months later it gets discounted to the real price :P
i'm waiting for cubexx to be decent prices
2D games are often harder to run for accuracy reasons in my experience, but yoshi is a nintendo game so who knows
i mean i run some N64 games on my a30, retroachievements and anything, and this is better than that by a decent margin
on my x55 (same chip) before the new drivers, i used to play perfect dark multiplayer without too much trouble
Worth waiting anyhow. Takes a few months for the CFW to get properly adapted (this will probably need tweaks for hinge closing support, on top of the usual rocknix build).
Just bought two of those as Christmas presents. Insane value for what they are 
Cost less than the OG 35xx's I bought last year did.
Worth the upgrade just for the bigger screen and portmaster. Let alone Pico 8 and all the extra power of the 3566.
I was tempted just to put Stardew Valley, balatro, Celeste and shovel knight on there, and leave it at that. Still a great gift then 
i bought a used batch one before they caught on so i paid more, but yeah, insane power for the price they are going for now, specially with the improvements over the first batch
very likely that it will take a shockingly short amount of time on this one
Hopefully.
i suspect the screen drivers will be the only real issue, thanks to mainline linux
Which half ? The one we want to play or the one we don't care ? 😉
More seriously, I'd be glad if people went to a consensus for evaluation : run the 50 or 100 top games according to - like - Metacritic, record the max multiplier and average (for 3D games)
i dunno man, the PSP library is really big and varied, up to you
as for which half, the 222mhz mode one :P
pointless, PSP era was some of the worst, most inflamatory eras for reviews in traditional media, armored core 3's PSP port, which is quite good, has a 21 on metacritic
because it was too hard and this was before from soft was famous enough for people to get angry at reviewers for saying from soft games were too hard :P
Then IGN. Whatever you prefer, but a consensus.
As many here, I'm old school, growned up with Atari 2600. The most insanely difficult era was Amiga's in my opinion. I remember countless hours to beat Project X 😉 At that time, no saves !
I agree with you about critics. My point was only to get a metric. It doesn't mean that other games aren't worth to try.
IGN was a thing in 2009 :P
i just think its specifically a bad way to do this with PSP and DS, not a general rule
besides, a good bit of the best rated PSP games are 333mhz games, which you'll likely not run on this chip
its 50% more CPU clock you are emulating and the 3566 really chokes on that, no video drivers can fix a CPU bottleneck
I actually did stop gaming with PS2. I was really fed up with the same games over and over. And I was desparate when I read so bad and stupid critics about games such as Ico or Rez. To me, gaming was dead with PS2, and I stopped. Unfortunately, I've missed the indie scene after that.
wild take but i heard that a lot from millenials lol
I like moby games. They include user reviews, so initial bad critics reviews get corrected over time.
This does mean retro games get worse reviews though, as they are partially reviewed on how good they are now, rather than how good they were on release.
You had to play Final Fantasy iii, then iv, then.... x. And all these blockbuster franchises. Really boring after a while. The same games over and over, no creativity and when a game was creative, butchered by magazines only raving about graphics.
Same. I ducked out after the Dreamcast.
Next gen didn't mean crazy jumps in what you could do anymore. Everything was just getting bigger, rather than being new genres.
i wasnt even concious while the dreamcast wasnt discontinued lmao
and for my generation the 6th gen is held as one of the best of all time, and the 7th gen as a gigantic fuck up
That was my guess... you don't bother with capitals 😉
To me, Amiga was the best all time. SNES was super nice, NeoGeo an inaccessible dream, PS1/Saturn was refreshing due to the novelty of 3D. Then N64 was miserable and DC really made 3D shine. After that, I don't know 😉 I left the boat by PS2.
So to come back to Miyoo Flip, I'd really love if it could play Saturn and most Dreamcast. But that's asking a bit too much, isn't it ? Like Rez on Dreamcast !
Yeah, when next gen jumps usually mean nes-snes-n64-gc.....past that it's a bit of a wash really.
There's a reason why the switch has dominated with hardware not much better than the PS3.
You don't need much more for great games.
I was not playing TotK thinking, man, I wish this was bigger, with raytracing and better grass texture.
Ok, maybe the framerate could have been better 
what does that mean?
im 23 man lmao
Not to blame you, really. But I've noticed that younger people more usually don't bother that much with capital letters when they type.
i'm 31, i bother with capitals when i'm writing business emails, not chatting about retro handhelds
yeah
I'm 51 and I always bother with capitals 😉
And my 16 yo daughter never bothers with capials 😉
You are in between !
ah ok. sorry. let me try !
still cant believe this is finally happening
yeah as the other person said, capitals are like a formality thing, they arent actually a significant part of communication
btw how much is Flip gonna cost?
prolly like 60-80
3 flippers more or less
More than $5 is my guess
I forgot this thing still had a following.
They used vita sticks damnit
Why is this bad?
bad for me, i hate them 🤣 only reason I’m not really fond of the TSP
rather have vita sticks than cursed switch sticks that don't click
i rather have sticks than no sticks
I’d rather have a Wii mote and nunchuck than no Wii mote and nunchuck
No L/R3 is why vita sticks are bad.
What games use l3/r3?
I mostly just don’t like vita sticks because they don’t pass the Mario 64 test for me. They don’t feel comfortable to me
good for hotkey
portmaster games like half life 2 and portal (if they get ported over)
I played them on my RG35XXH (before I sold it for an SP)
are 3ds sliders better than vita sticks?
no
Oh yeah that. If this is really an RK3566 that's gonna affect cfws
For footprint yes, I probably prefer them to vita sticks personally. Though they aren’t as good as the Thinkpad nipple
is the thinkpad nipple really that good
I like using it, but it’s very much an either you hate it or love it kind of thing.
The only minut/quasi-analog control add-on on any gaming device that's actually valid is the trackball
Why NOT a tiny track ball
The size of a regular A button
Yes
Circle pad supremacy
Vita sticks lol
This looks so cheap lol
I’d argue they’re better than Switch Sticks for handhelds intended to be pocketable, and exponentially better for clamshells.
Why not just a mousepad
Because it will be cheap 
35 dollars ?
Anything under $100 AUD is cheap
Idk you can get xx sp for 41 now. Miyoo waited a long time.
If the buttons aren’t too clicky and like the mini+ this will 💩 all over the SP.
Only if it’s like $50
Vita sticks might lose me on this purchase, my buy depends on whether the software and the buttons are good. I’m waiting until reviews
This would be perfect with Brick's screen and MagicX's sticks. Well, nothing is perfect and it's always how much you're willing to compromise. At least to me this is already better than RG35xxSP. I hope MagicX will tease their SP before I buy the Flip.
Everything is better with the brick or pro20 screen
I'm just happy we're finally getting SP style handhelds
I doubt the software will be good.
Feels like the A30 and miyoo mini, in my opinion. Good bones and the community will turn this into a real gem.
I just spent too much money on getting a rp5 and looks like I'm gonna have to put the money down and get one of these now
At least this will be cheap lol
Probably around $50-$60 USD so about $80-$100 AUD for me
my body is ready
kinda annoyed the red buttons are X and Y instead of A and B
Yay still has the vita store music
Some of these are switch sticks I think, weird
the miyoo flip will be released with both sticks, send them in a random way like the rtc function
I need one of these leakers to put it side by side with a 35xxsp
The flip seems to be the size of a GBA SP, so the pictures comparing the GBA with Anbernic's are helpful.
white with black shoulder buttons looks so clean
I don't get Myioo's communication policy. Still no price, no date and no detailed specs. In the mean time, black friday is running with coupon codes everywhere.
I could have been patient if I had information about this Flip but as a pocketable device to compliment my RP5, I've now bought a Brick for $48.8 VAT out on Aliexpress. And I won't buy a Flip as well.
They think the RK3566 is eternal. It doesn't matter when it's released, or how many similarly specced devices come out, people will still buy it.
If they are just targeting people in the handheld niche, they may not be wrong 
Hell, it's gonna be an upgrade for a lot of people
They lost me as well , was first interested but now couldn’t care any less .
Hope it sells well but the forever delay has me not caring for it anymore
The miyoo name will still sell a ton on the Facebook/reddit groups that don’t live on here and know the difference
As a side note I did see the onion devs are getting units
"no-no, guys, you've got it all wrong, TrimUI and Miyoo are different companies" my ass
What's with all the misinformation?
yes the advertisement is completely wrong, the brick is 3.2" and not even amoled
Oh fuck, I didn't even notice the AMOLED part
and it's 3000mah
Well that's rather interesting
I'm thinking somehow they grabbed the brick photo and put the specs of the v4 MM up there.
Then just fudged the screen and lied that it was AMOLED
Buzzwords!
theres a ton of fake shit on aliexp
Anyway idk. I'm excited for the Flip (if and when it ever comes out) +6Months for CFW to come out and the price to drop. I love my MM+ and I've had it awhile. Maybe 2 years or more - Onion OS is awesome. I got a MM V4 and only because I was able to get it for like $35. I just got an a30....cause it was $20....I'll get this when its like $25-30 and theres CFW
they said Onion devs are getting copies too... onionOS on this would be rad.
Yeah we shall see. I mean they sidestepped the A30 because of the CPU change
So this is pretty much confirmed RK3566. Never say never but it won't be a port per se, rather a new version of onion
i wonder if onionOS on the flip would mean onion on other devices too
Yeah thats kinda what I'm getting at lol
that'd be pretty big.
Like their whole thing was they were sticking to the MM/MM+ because of the chipset
so if they ARE willing to branch out, to what effect
I'm gonna also guess a Rocknix port (maybe ArkOS and GammaCore too?) will also come since those already exist for RK3566 devices
nice polished video and the colors are gorgeous, I'm bullish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-bz-RICr5I
Listening to Adin Walls last podcast (with Taki) it seems people struggle to understand how Anbernic does so many devices so often, but whatever, looking forward to this one!
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I really like the snes themed one but I'm going to get black
yeah, I'm getting the snes! I guess black is nice to blend with screen black borders when the emulated screen ratio mismatches
I'll probably end up picking up both if it ends up being a great device
i definitely want black
it will match my thinkpad and GPD Win Mini
just looked up the sfc rp mini and dang that's a nice colour
I think I'll finally have my two end game devices once the flip releases. Win Mini for higher end emulation (everything after PS1 up to PS3) and AAA titles....Miyoo Flip for retro emulation (everything up to PS1)
Probably Black but ngl I don't care for the color choices here much
Dang where did the black and green go 😔
Black could be the only transparent model so I'm getting black too
Oh my mini flip is ready????
mayhaps
If it's transparent I'm not getting it lol
I'm hoping it's a solid black
Afraid the hinge might break?
Nah, I just don't like transparent black
Looks like someone is getting an rg35xx sp for Christmas 
Depending on how easy it is to remove the case, you could mix up the black and yellow models into two bumblebee themed units, lol
@subtle mango bet who buys ones and have it delivered first?
BUZZ BUZZ
Miyoo flip -game of death edition
TM
Anyone else feel like we’ve gone from, “miyoo flip is coming sooooon” to “miyoo mini is coming sOOOn.”?
after some photoshopping I'm pretty sure that the screen is not the same of trimui brick
from the picture and using the usb c for dimensions is around 70mm large
Honestly I'm fine with the flip even if it's just a 3.5" 640x480 screen
the bezels are much smaller than the rg35xxsp which will allow it to be more pocketable
it's the size of a gba sp afterall
And while I'm not sure aboutthose sticks on the bottom they should still be useful for 3d games. More so than using the dpad.
I wonder if this will follow the same cycle as all Miyoo devices - the reviewers will initially hate it until CFWs are released. ;D
Well I don't think I'm gonna buy it just because it's another clamshell, but I will if something interesting happens on the CFW side
Like I bought MM+ just to try Onion
But since this uses Rockchip, I kinda doubt we're gonna see something other devices don't have, but who knows, maybe this will get huge
yeah imma wait. I'm sure it won't review super well initially
The A30 screen brightness thing would have been a dealbreaker if I wanted one at launch
I have one coming in the mail cause $20, if it wasn't that cheap I wouldn't have bought it at all.
Do we know the specs
True, though it may take a while before we see Rocknix or GammaCore...
Yeah again i'm curious to see the final eventual launch but I definitely will be waiting atleast 2-3 if not 6+ months to see where CFW takes this and how cheap it gets. I'd pick it up for $25-30
Why would I assume that
Miyoo hasn't used those
Do you have a reason you think it’s the 3.2? This has been in development forever and I think always assumed to be 3.5
I really doubt it’s getting that cheap, even on sale.
Ok so I do see that they said it was a 3566
I see reports that it's a 3.5 inch screen
I don’t think the 3.2 brick screen was even an option when development started for this thing
Or way more people would have used it by now
They'd be making noise about a 1024x768 screen, I think.
For some reason I swore it was 3.2" screen. But hey 3.5 would be great
Sorry, spreading misinformation
3.2 inch clamshell would be awesome though, it’s just your subconscious desires leaking out 😁
Just release the specs Miyoo, wtf lol
They’re trying the slow drip like Retroid, except for someone forgot to tell them that it’s supposed to be over a week or so and not 2 years
possibility this could be the foldable 20pro if 3.2" then high res screen
It could very well be trimui brick screen but they are pretty bad at marketing,
I think I gave up on it actually releasing about 6 months ago.
I remain surprised it could actually be a thing.
3.2 is probably misinformation since it was definitely 3.5 inch screen in the beginning unless they changed the whole thing mid developement
Surprise it's a 4 inch clamshell this whole time 😉
5.5 OLED take it or leave it
11", surprise it's a laptop!
They never said it was 3.2 — but tbf don't think they ever said it was 3.5 either, people just assumed that because the patent said Miyoo 355 or something while Miyoo A30 was Miyoo 282
Otherwise it was just speculation because the photos they posted made the screen seem smaller than 35xxSP
I can't find it, but there was a photo of the Flip next to the original SP, and Flip looked like the screen was about the same size as SP's screen + bezels
While 35xxSP is bigger than SP's screen
no way it's the 3.2 768p screen. that would be way too radical for miyoo. a conservative 3.5in 480p is what it will be
Btw, just thought yeah, that patent in April'23 really helped Miyoo, didn't it 
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Like what purpose did it even serve other than alert everyone (including Anbernic) that it might be coming
I dunno Chinese laws, maybe it's not really for IP protection in the first place, but still funny to me
(at the same time, for some reason we don't see a lot of Anbernic patents, so maybe they really aren't that useful)
Miyoo was always strange, even back in the Bittboy days
Development took so long that it would not be surprising to find there was some sort of radical change of plans.
Alright every one good talks. Let’s plan to meet again next year we might have confirmed specs by then 
well, next year is only a month away
I mean yeah, there’s some double meaning there. That’s part of the joke 
It can also be interpreted that we’ll come back in a year and be in the same spot
Like we did last year to this year
When is it coming out!
At thr rate we're going, when Powkiddy has switched to a different chip to milk on their handhelds /lh
(Just be lucky they haven't thought of making a RK3566 flip yet...)
this is probs conjecture but i remember panda mimi and i always had an inkling it was run by miyoo/bittboy
and then they tried to make it seem like it was an independent operation by reviewing their own competitor's products
As with all Miyoo products, I’ll wait to buy this until a good CFW is made for it.
I'll probably buy it a little after reviewers make vids on it, mainly waiting for tech dweebs vid
I'm curious if already existing custom OSes can just run on it
Might need some modification to work
(Just a guess. Apparently, the GKD Bubble has a different bootloader structure compared to the Powkiddys, so it won't surprise me if Miyoo ALSO did some weird stuff too)
Same chip usually means theres at least a starting point, but almost never does it mean things work with no modifications. Always a couple little shenanigans to iron out.
Flliiiiiiiiiiiipppppppppp
It's been 7 days since they posted this video. What do they exactly mean by "soon" ? Obvioulsy not one day, and not one week. Is it a month or a year ?
The cycle repeats itself, they give hope just to let it wither
Miyoo's customer support is kicking it up a notch, I guess
As a KT-R1 follower, soon is my normal.
At least that’s just a one man show, it’s understandable. I’m not sure how Miyoo hasn’t found a PR guy or something yet to help them not say “Soon” for 18 months
I would think likely in time for the Christmas rush
they’re probably rushing to get it to the US first before the Trump Tariff kicks in
tm

Asking the Miyoo team if they’ll give us ANY info besides “soon”
Heard on the grapevine "Delayed to december"
That's two sources removed from Miyoo but that's the source apparently lol.
Shoot, the delayed til (current month+1) cycle is beginning again
Surely it has to be the last delay though right? RIGHT!? Lol. They are advertising and they told us they are prepping dev units. Idk what happened. Those software issues are a bitch apparently 
If it's really the 3566 I'm stunned that there's issues they can't solve by looking through any of the custom firmwares code and going "oh yeah that makes sense"
Not advocating plagiarism, for clarification 
To be fair December isn’t even a week away so this “delay” doesn’t mean much
Like… was there really a chance it was shadow dropping in the next 4 days?
Yeah but it's not going to be December 1st, going from "Soon" to "December" really implies mid December rather than any day now.
any info on whether the sticks will be clickable or not?
they cooked it too long, now its BURNT
Really sad. I was hyped..now I'm not :/
I remember when you were a doggo who wanted to fetch a Miyoo flip
Now you’re a doggo who wants to bury a Miyoo flop
Is this before or after all the Aliexpress sales?
It would have to go on sale in the next week to catch the current sale, I kinda doubt it's happening
but would love to be wrong
pricing is a little more than I'd want, will probably wait for reviews
From QQ chatroom
Ohhh
the dpad.... it looks trash to me, the buttons are lower profile tho, i wonder if clicky or not
it probly wont be too bad considering how small the device is
omg finally
The difference is pretty massive
but honestly this comparison just made me aware of how cheap the miyoo flip looks compared to the xxsp
Maybe if someone in the future makes high quality shells it could match the xxsp aestetically
In what way? The metallic finish? Because honestly I don't think the metallic finish of the xxsp looks "high quality" at all.
well it doesn't look cheap imo
which the miyoo mini flip clearly is
anyway I'll still buy it
I love my sp but I do wish I had at least 1 stick for portmaster games
The flip will also play some n64 and psp so the sticks matter
Yeah I'm pretty excited to play ocarina of time on my miyoo mini flip however uncomfortable it could be
This all comes down to the face buttons and how clicky they are. If they aren’t clicky it’s going to be a winner.
Why is clickiness bad though?
ps vita, ds, gba sp all have clicky buttons and people love their dpads
I suppose it can disturb your partner if you're playing in bed
My gf however would wake up even from membrane buttons, so gaming at night is just a no-go in general
Otherwise can't say SP's clickiness has bothered me much, and I have the first revision
I’ve owned 100’s of these handhelds and the two SP’s I’ve owned old version and new are some of the clickiest face buttons I’ve used and make the experience not enjoyable. If I kept on using them around the house I would be a single man. If you have the brick, this is how the buttons should be like.
It would be funny to imagine a tiny little handheld ruining a whole relationship
I am personally a fan of clicky dpad. They feel responsive for me. And most dpads I've used do not have false diognals
$70-$80 is a little too high for this I fear
eh that's around average now for a 3566 handheld
I think you need to use the brick dpad, it’s has a little click but it’s perfect just like the original smart.
well rn for me it's either the brick on this
when reviews from russ come out I'll decide which one to buy
Russ isn’t god, he is just a guy on YouTube with his opinion. Sometimes he says a HH isn’t that good and I’ve got it and it’s great. Original trimUI Smart review is a good example of this. I got this at launch and this was definitely the best small HH available until now, the brick is now king.
definitely smaller
probably they have the bezels behind the housing
wonder how much delicate will be
tbh the soc in this small factor is what really surprise me
Why is it surprising though? Kinda typical these days
I mean, RK3566 is slightly stronger than H700/A133, but it's not a generational jump unless a chip has A7x cores
do you reckon?
my rgb30 became pretty toasty and for sure have more space
Oh, yeah, I'm also interested how it will handle temps
I think it's gonna be more or less like H700 — fine as long as you don't touch the 5th gen (which kinda kills any performance advantage)
maybe some kind of down clock for emulate at best with the minimum necessary
Shouldn't get hot if you only play stuff like gba and snes
So far I am liking what I am seeing. To me Flip's build quality looks better than xxSP; the gap between frame is not as noticeable as xxSP, hinge also looks sturdier. xxSP's screen looks quite a bit larger than Flip in the picture, even after considering the black bezel around xxSP screen. And best of all Flip will actually be pocketable unlike xxSP; I would've bought xxSP if it had the same dimension as GBA SP. I am glad Miyoo changed the stick to vita style ones, didn't like the one they use in A30. I wish they could use the stick MagicX is using.
the price will probably go to something like 50-60 usd during sales, and waiting a lil longer won't hurt
Shaderless anyway. Or running very light stuff like sharp-shimmerless.
I think I'll just do what I did with SP — wait until my local resellers get it
QA issues will probably be ironed out until then, and I'll get a handheld in two hours instead of two weeks
SP was literally my impulse birthday gift to myself
Then again if Touch One works out, I won't even consider another up to PSX handheld
Love that size and the round corners will make it fit snuggly in my pocket 😁
I'm wondering if this will have more or less build issues than the Powkiddys using the same CPU
As of right now PK doesn't seem to use heavily customized firmware
Are we convinced it’s still 3.5 and the bezels are much smaller than the sp, or could it be the 768p 3.2 screen?
Considering the overall size is nearly identical to the GBA SP, I would guess 3.2”
I disagree, it looks like a 3.5 with smaller bezels to me, but we’re basically just speculating
It is nice that it’s thinner than the 35xxsp when folded up
I wonder if that means it’ll take a hit on battery life
also wonder how hot it'll get
and how those shallow buttons and dpad will feel
hopefully gets into the hands of reviewers in time for preorders
not a great measurement given angles, but i'm seeing the diagonal line across the screen of the SP = 600px 475px, the diagonal line across the screen of the Flip = 400px415px.
That seems more reasonable
If it is the brick screen it will be a clear upgrade over the XXSP
I tried to account for the bezel by excluding it from the measurement, but hard to see it perfectly. If everything were perfect with my measurement (it's not), the SP screen would be 14.5% larger than the Flip
The numbers do make it look like the Flip has a 3.2" screen, I think a 3.5" is ~10-15% larger than a 3.2"
3.5/3.2 is 1.09, so just under 10% bigger
Which with your pixel math seems pretty close.
it's hard to say though, because I think the bottom left of the SP looks closer to the camera than the bottom right of the Flip, so perspective is not exact
speculating is fun but we'll find out for real soon if miyoo speeds up the slow drip
Yeah that’s true, if they’re not exactly spaced this is meaningless 😅
I think the controls are my concern at this point. The sticks are going to be interesting.
they're so shallow yeah
the buttons anyway. the sticks, if they're similar to the A30s where they're usable and not cardinally snapping, but are completely out of the way, could be a nice value add
especially for portmaster
The buttons probably can’t be too tall to interfere with the screen, but I hope the travel is okay on them.
The original Gameboy SP buttons are pretty shallow too, so it will probably depend on the dome switches underneath
If it’s 3.2” 1024x768 it’s gonna be a major selling point
i'd be more willing to spend $80 on this thing if it were the nicer 3.2 screen
I don't care how thick the SP's bezels are, those screens are not the same size.
Would help explain the delay if they did change the screen out, I’m more convinced after the pixel math
man, if that's really the Brick's screen, this will really give the flip a good edge against the SP.
Yeah the brick screen is pretty universally liked
Heh, I meant hardware reliability
Pretty exciting and what I want from a flip console. N64 support, sticks, ultimate flip console
Hopefully if it’s well received there’s lots of mods put out
Agreed
I don't mind a smaller screen if it means having a more pocketable device compared to the rg35xxsp. Higher quality screen would be a huge bonus
I’m just hoping it doesn’t have overheating issues with n64/psp
How's the brick do with those? Might be similar
Ah yeah it is
What's another recently released 3356 device? How's it do with heat issues?
Rgb20 pro
The trimui smart pro is definitely worse with heat issues than the RGB30
actually, I don't think heat was ever a particular issue with it.
I know, but I'm already waiting for the 2nd or 3rd revision 😛
I believe Onion OS is not coming for this one!
The team is looking into it.
wasn't the Onion OS team looking into porting onto the 3566?
GKD Bubble. Not sure about heat issues
No heat issues on the Bubble.
Source?
Ok, miss read it. If they like the device. From the horses mouth
I measured this too myself last night, but wasn't sure if it was a perspective illusion
it does seem quite a bit smaller though for it just to be perspective
Gonna be funny if Miyoo just dug up some unconventional 3.2"ish 480p display.
Have we seen a device with a 3.2" 480p screen before?
Not that I know.
yeah I can't think of any
Still hopeful for Brick's screen
and betterbuttons than xxSP
Anbernic should copy Trimui or Retroid next time when designing clicky dpad and buttons
What we can try to avoid perspective confusion is to use the Vita sticks for scale
trying to adjust perspective, lol
Trimui Smart Pro's dpad is not that great IMO. Good for precision, horrible for diagonals. It's Basically the Switch Lite dpad -.-
People are saying the Brick's dpad is better, tho
it is anyway a considerable feat, particularly in comparison to the anbernic one
still debugging 🤝
still assebling the 1st prototypes
I’m sure they’re building a ton of stock because people get upset when they sell out. Miyoo has to deal with more of the masses than a lot of these companies because they had lightning strike with the mini and mini plus.
And the masses get real grumpy about “bad business practices” when the small company doesn’t have 10,000 in stock at all times
does it say 2000 or 3000 mah on the battery? i cant tell
How is that a 3.5 screen
I feel like these support dudes are always in the dark as much as we are
I already love those rounded corners at the bottom 
Ain’t no way that’s a 3.5” screen
It has to be that new 3.2 screen imo. I just wish it didn't have sticks 🙃
i love that they are just answering questions like these. lotsa companies wouldnt confirm details over chat haha
if it ends up being 3.2 we know that theyre just guessing lol
yeah looks 3.2
but it was announced as the miyoo 355 last year
it definitely looks like they updated it to the nicer 3.2" though
hoping for 768p 3.2, will be happy with 3.5 480p though
Yeah, I think it looks smaller vs when we saw the first prototypes, but is it really 3.2? I hope so 😉
BTW The build quality looks very good in the video
785px vs 700px diagonally, trying to exclude bezel - there is definitely bezel on the flip too. measuring from the video when theyre at an angle
that's still ~10% smaller, still makes it look like the flip is 3.2
camera angle could still be enough to cause the difference though, it's hard to tell because the bezel is 3-4x larger on the sp
This gets me seriously excited
Could you check the screenshot I posted above? its from the end of the video and they seem to be exactly in front of the camera
it's kinda tiny, but 215 vs 185 px, still ~15% difference
but if it has the same screen as Trimui Brick than it will destroy xxSP
other retro discord is convinced this is just a very thin bezelled 3.5, it might be
let's just hope they will make the buttons better, I really hope the rumors that they are the same company as Trimui is correct and they will use the same micro switches 😉
are trimui's buttons and dpad clicky?
they are, but they arer much better quality than anbernic's clicky buttons from SP
that's good. between my miyoo a30 and odin2mini i havent dealt with clicky buttons recently, though my new xbox controller is extremely clicky and loud and is not my favorite
To be honest I like clicky buttons when they are done well
I thought Odin 2 mini had clicky buttons, am I wrong?
or at least clicky dpad
if it is i'm impressed, it's the best d-pad i've used. it feels very different from my xbox controller's audibly clicky dpad, it's pretty quiet.
It’s a clicky dpad for sure, just a very high quality one
But Trimui and Retroid are also doing very good quality clicky dpads
tGecko in the other discord showcasing that the screen sizes are closer than it may seem 👀 soon we'll hear confirmation if it's 3.5 or 3.2, proly 3.5
near-bezelless 3.5 is impressive too
I was just about to ask about screen size
Have they placed a shot of it beside a gba sp yet? Looks like they’re going for 1:1 size
If it's the 3.5" 480p then it's a hard pass
Wow I wonder how big the screen is. It could be a 3.2" or a 3.5”. I do wonder...what if it's a 3.5" or a 3.2". I guess no one's really talked about though if the screen was 3.2". Maybe we need more posts about it side by side with other devices. Possibly counting more pixels and diagrams. Also what if it's like a 3.5” screen? That might be the case as well. Idk if anyone is really talking about if the screen is a 3.2" or a 3.5" maybe if we keep talking about it for another four days straight we can get to the bottom of it and conclude that it just might in fact be a 3.2" or 3.5" device.
Wild card here, but what if it's the 3.2 brick screen, haven't heard anyone discuss that
Hmm. Looking at photos I think it could be that size. Or that size plus 0.3". Hard to say
Miyoo actually discovered a trove of 1080p 3.35in screens. You heard it here first guys
oled too?
Obviously
Hmm it does look like it could go either way. I'd like to talk extensively about both outcomes instead of waiting for more info. If it was oled and if it wasn't what are your fill thoughts and opinions? Please also consider this, what if it's a 3.2" screen or a 3.5” screen I believe if I draw a diagonal across the screen enough times and post it well figure it out.
Oh okay, this makes the post where someone asked and they said it was a 3.2" screen into question.
I think we should ask them 8 more times then average the answers
I’d be surprised if they were going with 3.2 screens actually
the miyoo flip was in development for at least 1.5yrs
Well let's talk about it. Is it a 3.2" screen or a 3.5" screen? 🤔
What if it was the opposite of what you thought?
the 3.2’ inch screens are quite a newly discovered thing
I would go back to being a cat
I think it’s a 3.2.5” screen

Or maybe it’s a 3.5.2” screen
Have you considered the 7 different side by side shots against an SP though? I don't think you did. Because there are 4 of them posted every day and they tell a murky story
It’s all about creating an air of ✨M Y S T I Q U E ✨
we cat's don't have the capacity to consider those things
we consider what our brain tells us is correct
which as you know is quite big
Cats can see the 0.3" difference. They have to as cats because how else would they know if they can slip through the crack or not.
So as a cat you should consider the three videos posted multiple times a day of the flip next to other devices and possibly imagine the screen touching your whiskers to decide 3.2" or 3.5"
False, they’ll palpate the two screens with their whiskers to decide which one is big enough to sklorp into (edit: I see you’ve considered this. Please disregard)
we actually lick our screens
I’m convinced it’s 3.5” 640x480
The width of MM+ is 78.5mm and GBA SP 82mm. Considering Flip has almost the same dimension as SP and how narrow the frame to the side of Flip screen looks, I was convinced for the last few days its a 3.5 screen. But I am perfectly fine with the screen on my MM+ and I haven't seen the 3.2 screen yet so it don't bother me. I'll be buying the Flip it there is no major issue.
Okay but what if it's a 3.2” screen? I don't think you've truly thought it through
WHAT IF ITS A
3.5" SCREEN THOUGH? Idk if that's been a counter point 🤯
I'm into it
3.2 640x480 and nobody wins 
This is the rumor mill section, sir, you must be new
Agree, speculation is all the fun here 😉 Otherwise we would be waiting for news and with Miyoo it would be super boring
I mean, considering last year people were making preview videos for a 3D-printed model of the thing, speculating screen sizes sounds pretty healthy
the question is what was the screen size of the 3D-printed model xD
I used to complain a lot about all 3.5 in devices out there being 480p and people always piled on me because higher resolutions were not necessary, good to see the standard has finally changed 😁
seriously, the reason I sold my MM+ was the lower ppi being sooooo noticeable compared to the MM that had a smaller screen. Things just look so much sharper
Weird, right? Not like you're asking much.
Be careful with this statement, you might attract the people who hate when screens are 0.3” smaller than what they wanted.
Mate, I would advise you to never buy a Steam Deck, its ppi is worse
“It’s a deal breaker, doesn’t matter if it’s a beautiful 4:3 OLED screen on a device that can run literally everything through GameCube, some switch and windows games for under $200, 0.3 inches is going to break it for me”
that's precisely why I always play anything under PS1, as well as NDS, on my MM rather than the steam deck! 😅 It looks so much better!
basically 480p at 2.8" makes old games appear modern and sharp compared to 480p at 3.5"
also I have to say I'm priviledged to have good vision because I play DS games with both screens at the same time on the MM 
just looks so sharp 😩
Well, I wouldnt want to play Switch games on RP Mini screen 😉
I wouldn’t play them on a 4 inch 4:3 either though 
I envy your vision sir!
Arguably I’d play them on that screen more than any other 4:3 screen, since it’s got integer scaling with 1x handheld mode (for any of the games that run at 1x handheld on that device, of course).
that's true lol, me neither
I wouldnt play most of Switch games at all on the current 4:3 screens we have, they are just too small
But yeah, in general I usually prefer 4:3 games on the Mini, with 16:9 being either a novelty at best, or because I’m just not bothered by playing that game in question on the screen.
I mean I could technically play them but would it be a pleasent experience, I dont think so
(its like playing psp on 3.5 inches)
Eh, it’s at least more pleasant than playing 240p or 480p games on the Powkiddy V10 or RG351P, since the non-integer scaling for 320p just gets you this kind of stuff.
I love Wide-Eyed Frisk, best laugh I’ve ever had from any issue related to integer scaling.
ouch
Yeah, it’s why I personally have high-resolution as a higher priority than screen size for what I prefer, since the logic of “a higher resolution will make non-integer scaling less of an issue” also works in reverse, where a low enough resolution will make non-integer scaling a nightmare.
Like, obviously this doesn’t matter as much in the 960p vs 720p debate, and arguably not even the 768p vs 480p debate (since 480p is still pretty decent for the games the 480p devices can play), but it’s something I still usually keep in mind.
I have an 40XXh (480p) and a 406v (720p), and despite the 406 being a perfect integer scale if I put even a mild crt or handheld shader on I can't even tell the difference between them if not for the color saturation.
Even with the Mega Man life-bar test I need two pairs of glasses to see it.
Mega man life-bar test is overrated imo. Scaling issue is more annoying when it comes to text in games. 640x480 performs really bad when it comes to GB/GBA games that are text heavy.
I don't think that the flip uses 640x480 3.5" screen is a problem per se. It's just that 35xxsp is readily available for quite a while, and that 1024x768 3.2" screen is a thing now.
you mean higher resolution is better for old consoles?
Can someone explain in simple words
It's hard to capture the blurry text edges with a phone camera, but it is definitely noticeable and it is something you look at all the time for games like jrpgs.
Higher resolution just makes the blurry text edges or uneven pixels much less noticeable. Personally I actually had never really cared about these issues, until I started to play a lot of text heavy games.
Brick spotted
Are the scaling nerds going at it again?
Honestly, I’m sad I didn’t get to drop this when people were saying that the customer support was incorrect and that their measurements of an indirect image were more accurate.
…Does he work with Miyoo?
If so, holy shit I didn’t know that.
He did develop some software utilities for Miyoo
I think that includes the FFplay app and dependencies?
And I think the Pygame port?
Guys what are your thoughts, is it a 3.2 or 3.5 inch screen?
One things for sure, it could be either of those.
It triggers me that this guy couldn't take 10 seconds to push the d-pad and buttons so we could hear the sound
Well, they DID say it would launch in whatever month they were told to so it was justified to not trust them
Yes, but my point was that people were predicting the exact screen size based on literal pictures alone, and “coincidentally” all of those guesses were the exact size that would match the higher resolution 3.2” screen that is also the only 3.2” 4:3 screen we currently know about.
Unless Miyoo team actually was cooking this up with the Trimui team (in which whatever deal they got with the screen devs for the Brick could also go to the Flip), I don’t think they would ditch the 3.5” screens they planned on using (especially when they’re already likely using the screens from the MM+) just to use a brand new screen that may potentially cost more.
Well at least the SOC is absolutely not a mystery anymore
I truly wanted to believe based on the pixels
I don't know that it was so much predicting as doing anything to pass the time tbh. This has been a VERY long time in the making and seeing real images makes people rabid
This DTS at least shows 640x480. I don't know if the dimensions are correct. 68- width 121-height 👀 It does have a lid switch and Bluetooth/5g WiFi
You have better eyes than me then. I booted up a Yu-Gi-Oh game (lots of small text) and put on three pairs of glasses (my low medium and hi-power) and I still couldn't tell the difference with the "dot" shader on.
Maybe that particular shader is just that good (Tech Dweeb did rate it as the best one for handhelds).
I don't understand. Are you saying that Miyoo would need to go through TrimUI to get that screen? Even PowKiddy has access to the same 3.2" screen.
we should start betting on the odds
And my wallet is empty
Still not the final answer on screen size
I mean
They could have easily swapped out something
Or used a 768px screen to display 480px content - it's not the first time some handheld did that
I only believe it when I own it
/s
Dimensions are interesting, compared to the 35xxSP's 89x85x27
If that's the way the assembly is like, we may worry less about wearing out the buttons than with the Anbernic
Sticks are most likely clickable
…No, I’m saying that unless Trimui already has a deal worked out with the provider to get those 3.2” screens for cheaper and they decided to use them, they wouldn’t just abandon the 3.5” screens they’re already planning to use.
Oh well that’s literally how the original GBA SP handled its buttons, I’m honestly shocked Miyoo did it that perfectly.
Dot shader is good indeed for hiding scaling imperfections but it significantly reduces brightness which can be a problem on screens that aren't bright to begin with.
making things blurry is basically what bilinear does. But IIRC the idea of bilinear as a replacement for integer scaling is to run a pixelation shared AFTER bilinear. I never really bought it tbh. Maybe if the goal is to make the Megaman X health bar look good, but it's just not the same. However, here's how the bilinear would look after re-pixelating it
For better or worse it is more pixelated lol
Yeah I think I will start using text as an example why you need integer scaling haha
And I still don't know definitely whether the new color SKUs of the Anbernic SP has the correct button design
This is true, though I've yet to see it make a game look as dark as it did on the original hardware.
I mean, if you’re talking about Gameboy games, it’s kind of difficult to make something darker than the screen with no backlight.
There might be a solution
Maybe add a glare shader on top of that?
The thing is, a dark Game Boy display can be rather bright under sunlight
You really need something that can change the "brightness effect" on the Game Boy display instantly. It's different from changing the actual handheld's display brightness.
If you change the Gambatte palette to "internal - pixelshift pack", L2 and R2 switches between palettes in the "pack", but if the palette is set to "external", the palette is one that has the same name as the game. I wish we could use a palette pack as well, and use L2 and R2 to switch between them
If that works, we can have more customization options
I'm sorry but any thought that this ISN'T a 3.5" 480p is just copium at this point.
480p is so disappointing compared to what's available
the 3,2 inch screen would be the only way to sell this to someone who has an xxsp
true
As long as the buttons are better than the xxsp I imagine it will do okay.
Disagree, but most people won't care about the minor details or chip and software preferences.
havent lurked this thread in months lol they're finally releasing it?
No.
I mean, we have more videos but still no release date on sight
Maybe tomorrow, maybe next year. lol
Definitely soon going by all these videos
Who’s ordering day 1?
I don’t think I will. Waited this long I can wait a little longer for prices to drop and cfw to be developed
3.5 is the minimum I can take
Why not 4" 960x720
With that it's perfect 4x GBA
3.2" 1024x768 is less than 3" perfect GBA with the same pixel count
That's quite the suprise
Not to someone who’s already got a cracked hinge.
By that point, they’ve got until I know for sure that the revised SP versions are the only option, to get me interested in the Flip. And frankly, they’ve already got my interest with the unironically way better designed buttons.
Oh I’m definitely waiting, I already don’t expect to get the exact color I want due to limited availability that’s usually occurred with Miyoo stuff, why not wait until choice day to get what I want at a cheaper price?
Everyone going '3.5 inches?' here's me hoping for an actual mini flip with the v4 screen for perfect GBA integer
don't think it's that small
A girl can dream
Steward confirmed it's 3.5in 480p screen, see #1101304832276562012 message
wouldve been cool to have the 3.2" 768p screen or somethin higher PPI, maybe next year
weird that all the images look like the screen's smaller than 3.5"
I think it's because the bezel and the outer frame is smaller and thinner
If it's really 3.5 they're probably using the screen from the miyoo mini plus
n-no baby it's bigger than it looks like in pictures I swear 👉👈 😓
Yeah I'd assume it really is 3.5" just by virtue of the fact that they'd have absolutely no shortage of those due to the MMP already being so successful
Thinking on it, this the first clamshell retro handheld to feature proper analogue sticks?
I wouldn't call the Ayaneo Flip or GPD Win Mini retro handhelds btw
And the Retroid Flip had analogue sliders, not sticks
Yeah and Ali shop is already halfway confirming it lol. Just a better chance they’re telling the truth rather than not
Can't remember what sticks Powkiddy X18/X18s had, but they did have sticks
Oh interesting
I didn't even know that system existed
The reason why they caught my eye is because I've been thinking a lot about how my ideal handheld would be built
I'd like something with a similar form factor to the PSP Go, but bigger
And one of the main complications with a design like that is the analogue sticks
After receiving my brick and learning this is 480p, I'm passing. Now that I have that DPI and not having to worry about things like Interger scaling anymore, it's almost impossible to go back. Even the cubeXX with it's 720p screen has lost some of it's luster now that the Brick's screen has wowed me.
What is up Flip Fam? Do we have a release date for this yet?
Nope, just more speculation
Thanks. Was hoping for a release this year.
Might late this month or maybe next December, we just don’t know lol
With it being shown off so much it’s probably sooner rather than later, but I’ve been burned here before
if it's actual photos like these its usually less than 3 months away. Start worrying if we get videos of CN_Play showing gameplay, because that means it's never coming out
Didn't we get initial photos like a year ago?
Bro we had videos like a year ago. We had that green and black version playing something by a window last year. That still shows up here as 'new' every now and again.
Like I said, burned before
Miyoo P60 finally releases as the first woman sets foot on Proxima Centauri A
Transhumanism might very much have been as normal as dirt by the time the P60 comes out
#NeverForget the P60 also had promo materials released until they cancelled it. It's still not too late to cancel it 
I guess the next milestone would be to cancel a device after release
Ayn already did that with the Loki's 
Still better than gameforce selling the ace and going fuck it we cancelled gameforce company itself 
That whole situation was...
I mean, announcing going bankrupt on April fools day, and then never saying anything again? Crazy.
Haha the april fools were the ones who got fooled xD
GameForce bit off more than they could chew, didn't they?
This is called a 'recall'. E.g Ford Pinto
I'm hoping for a Miyoo Mini Flip Mini - the Flip with the screen and guts of a Mini. Miyoo you can have this idea for free if you release it
Is there really any good reason to use that instead
I imagine this one is cheaper and more performant than whatever they used to use and the majority of the cost it would be comes from the fact that it's a clamshell
Yeah, the chip itself is less than 7 bucks when bought in batches IIRC
Of course there's extra added cost in new software (hello, still debugging) and I dunno, maybe the PCB is more involved than what SSD202D needed
Me wanting the inverse: a Mini or A30 with the RK3566
It would be historic for Miyoo to recall the flip considering all the sort of things that have happeend in the retro handhelds space that didn't trigger a recall.
Like Powkiddy saying "Yeah, some the RGB30s we shipped were actual bombs but don't worry, we have changed suppliers"
I’m still baffled on how people barely even talked about that with the RGB30, but the RG35XX SP is what got even Russ and other reviewers to acknowledge this stuff (and that was literally only 2 confirmed incidents that were directly due to manufacturing defects).
a store has told me - tentatively they will have samples of the flip late Dec
Powkiddy used to ask us to accept their device's shortcomings.
Big improvement already
Samples to send out to reviewers? Nice
Not aware of the story — did these actually blow up, or did you get a spicy pillow?
Because if it's the latter, I think you can find similar examples for most of the popular low-tier handhelds
Hell, someone on Reddit posted a Win600 with a spicy pillow the other day
From what I can tell, the issue was present more domestic, but you essentially had those 2 incidents with the SP’s happening a good bit more often, directly because Powkiddy somehow managed to use the wrong spec battery for their own device.
So did they actually catch on fire?
I can’t find the domestic ones I remember (so I won’t make a hard claim that they were catching fire until I can find that), but I did find multiple moments of the better case scenarios in that batteries were dying and bloating within around 2 days, and some noting that the batteries would emit a faint almost sweet smell (which even a bloated battery shouldn’t be doing unless there’s an opening).
And note that the RGB30 doesn’t even have any of the proper implementations for C-to-C charging with a PD-Compliant port, so the literal only way you can charge the thing was either A-to-C or with a non-compliant PD Brick that would charge literally anything regardless.
Samsung Galaxy Note 7
Thanks for listening!
It’s sounding like they are at least going to look at it
From his comment it seems like he likes the device
Idk if there’s a guarantee there, probably depends on how they feel about the software
Price and CFW are what matters! lol
Sun's looks like it's supposed to show up today or tomorrowish.
Nice, will be good to see it in real hands.
Ok, so now I REALLY want one 😄
Just remember it probably won’t be available on release 😅
If at all
I was just passing along the info
Sure, but even without Onion we should have Rocknik and the others 3566 CFW nearly from the start anyway
My draw was on the picture alone, it looks so nice and pocketable ✨
my only worry is about the dpad and face buttons, they looks tiny compared to OG Miyoo's ones
Inb4 anbernic releases a rg40xxSP taking away the attention from the flip
Does Knulli support RK3566 devices?
I think only RGB30 for some reason
Ah, my bad. I remember it being mentioned on their homepage, didn't remember they specifically said it's not supported 
I wonder if actual Bacotera can be ported to RK3566 or not in that case
RK3566 is mainlined
Batocera itself supports the RGxx3 line
there's also already ArkOS and Rocknix for RK3566 devices. an ES distro for everyone
no love for recalbox
Isn't the stock linux firmware of those devices based on a really old version of batocera or something?
Yeah, it‘s the Anbernic fork
But since a version or two Batocera supports them too, they‘re on the download page
Everything but the Arc IIRC
Yeah, but the UI is a bit different, kinda like the stock xx one
Then you just end up in regular ES + standalone emulators
Haven‘t used it much though
i thought onion was dead
Nah, it's still getting decently regular updates
do we have official specs for this device? from what i gather, its:
3.5 640x480 (eww)
dual Vita sticks that my made clickable somehow
rk3566
1gb ram
(wished it was 2gb ram like the 353m, supposedly it helps with portmaster ports too but meh)
Really? Last release I saw was fron June
Huh I guess you're right
Is the flip yellow the same yellow as the mini?
I wish it were 3GB so that Android would work on this
Gamma OS Core might be coming to this (Android TV)
Their realese cycle is a little slower than before (which makes sense as the OS is mostly polished), but You can see on the Github Insights that there are still some commits being made: https://github.com/OnionUI/Onion/graphs/contributors
Makes sense
I mean, with the state it's already in, there's not too much to work on
Probably not
The yellow mini seems a fair bit darker
In a lot of pics, it almost looks the same colour as red cheese
Its a lovely smokers / piss yellow
💛 The Piss Edition 💛
Hope they consider some transparent shells eventually
Hard to say
Just because 35XX SPs have had serious issues with hinges cracking on transparent models
I hope there's a pink version somewhere down the road
that just means they get to sell more handhelds, everybody wins ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I'm tired b0ss...
I haven’t seen more than like 5 hinge breaks, it also happened to the opaque models as well
I put the word in for it
it all depends on sales I believe
The SP is one of the few models that’s come out recently that I know of that had new colors made for it because of it’s popularity
I don’t include The Brick because the red and purple were definitely planned from the beginning
Anbernic's promotion focused on the pin/pivot rather the the supporting plastics right
Yeah, I don’t think Anbernic’s plastic’s have been ever known for being that sturdy
Supposedly what I heard from Chris at Retroid, he never had to fix a transparent red Flip, he thinks (and I agree) that transparent Retroid plastic might be sturdier than the opaque
I’ve also never seen a cracked transparent 2S
R36s
No hinge in anything is 100% safe and sturdy
Look at the original DS. Or doors. Or any hinge really
Moving parts are bound to fail period
Entropy
I will say though, the GBA SP hinge is SOLID. Like you can beat the crap out of that console and the hinge is fine usually
How bout that Miyoo Mini Flip, though, amirite????
uninspired colors, smaller than the SP
at least the extra 17 months means we're about to see top-to-bottom quality on the build
A little birdy tells me that one of the major spruce devs has a Miyoo Flip in his possession…
I heard the hinge isn't great 
Very crunchy lol
Do Spruce and Onion have major UX design differences? I don't have an A30 so I can't really compare and they are both using the stock OS elements as basis anyway
Sort of. We have differences in design approaches. Spruce's themeing is more minimalist than Onion's. But the layout and basic functionality are built off Miyoo's MainUI for both.
There’s no such thing as a indestructible console either. It all depends on how well the console is built and how well it’s maintained/taken care of. 3DS hinges (depending on the model) and a lot of Gameboy SP hinges are known to last for most people pretty well
Gulf war gameboy would like to have a word
I heard the screen was replaced many times
Amazon Listing
$200
Used-like New
Wake up babe, new Anbernic handheld just dropped
now that's a form factor that inspires nostalgia
buttons don't work? authentic replication of your nostalgia
Screen doesn't work properly? Just Anerbic being close to Nintendo with the rg35xxGWV
Impressive, I still think hinged devices have an unfair reputation and can be built to last. My OG 3DS went through abuse and probably still works as far as I know. I had an IPod Nano that survived in the snow for a whole Michigan winter
the DS Lite is a lot more durable than the phat DS, which had the hinges all break in the same place
Shame the phat DS reshells are all kinda terrible
DS lite had issues too, but later models of it I’m pretty sure is when they started getting good at it. By 3DS it was a a great design, but from what I’ve seen hard to take apart and assemble again
Most issues on 3DS hinges I heard were on the 3DS XL
takin bets on if #1314678532965797918 beats this to market and steals its share? 
If people like both they’ll get both
whats wrong with it
3x interger + 3:2
its
perfection
The screen is too big for the frame, it looks uncanny valley especially when compared with the rela thing
sorry not sorry but it's the ugliest handheld of the year
replace "the jedi are evil" with "this device is perfect"
Only an Anbernic fan deals in absolutes
only heathens cant see the perfection that is GBA Shell with 3x interger and 3;2
It's definitely gonna take off, people from the GBA modding community is gonna go crazy for it
I mainly play GBA and honestly this is making reconsider skipping the flip
It's because the screen is too big for the shell. It looks disproportionate
Many people are saying this
It does look weird in the video because the screen is off but with some overlay it'll look very natural
What's drawing me is is actually the hand feel.
And the screen is just a nice bonus
If miyoo nails the form factor and the buttons it might still turn it around for me
HEATHEN
I love how desperate this channel was for flip info and now that we have hands on with one everyone's like 'eh...' 
Wait, we have hands on already?
lmao, I'm still excited! but now that it's real I'm personally just waiting for reviews
Some spruce and Onion developers have flips
This should have used the v4 mini screen imo
Should have used the brick screen
I think the 3:2 perfect ratio is the only thing that would be acceptable here, in a literal gba clone, but I do also agree that something seems off about the sizing of the shell relative to the screen
I’m hoping the Miyoo Flip is good, I’m gonna buy a 35xx sp for one of my friends, and I’ll try it out to see if I like it, I’ll wait on reviews for the MM Flip to see if I’ll get it or not
Lmao another Miyoo release overshadowed by Anbernic
That's a very tasty looking cake
It's not a clamshell and also having four buttons that are different sizes is weird
It's a GBA device
You don't need the other two..it's just there if you want it for something else
Main focus is the ab buttons
Oh lol, I didn't even notice it had different buttons
As another member said
Kinda sad this device is now on hands of a few peeps
And we like....we don't care
Well it just needs to have some kind of a redeeming quality, I think
That's why people were hoping for a 1024x768 screen
Literally anything
Better reliability than Powkiddy's RK3566 stuff?
(Or at least GammaCore, heh)
Oh yeah, I wouldn't expect that from Miyoo
Well, maybe Flip V5 in 2027 will have that
OnionOS on this would solve world peace
I need onion OS on the steam deck, let alone this
onion os dev needs to tell us the screen size
and resolution
it's been a debate for too long
stewart already did, it's 3.5" 480p. the debate is fictional
oh, well I guess that was expected
but I still had just a tiny bit of hope it would be the brick screen
lol, spruce has a flip, has ran some spruce code on it already, and picked it apart.
ya'll just haters.
No one’s hating though?
MENTIONING ONION’S NAME IS HATING
(I’m kidding)
Sorry I can't hear any haters over the crunching when flexing the hinge of our premium Miyoo Flip 😎
I mean I'm probably going to buy this over the SP
Yep unless there is some fatal flaw I’m buying this device. If this got Onion it could be so amazing.
what screen does the miyoo flip have
640 confirmed
or still hoping for something sharper
I'm a bit dissapointed they went for clicky/dome keys. They are softer to push than the xxSP but I was hoping for membrane
Would the same rg 35xxsp button mod trick work for the flip as well?
Does that help with softness? I thought that just helped muffle the sound. The Flip is much quieter than the xxSP
they feel more tactile than clicky after doing the tape mod on my SP
As long as they are quieter. Was hoping they had a brick like feel.
Agree, as long as I can't hear it it won't bother me much.
Softer?
HEY!!!
No, we got the one lol
Did you uh...


