Miyoo Flip

[feral marsh]

10 more messages in this thread until 10,000, wooo 🥳

[hexed forum]

To be that guy or not to.

[silent carbon]

... who's gonna do it

[silver sable]

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[coral ether]

I just want a more powerful SP style device and Anbernic, the king of many devices drops.... The CubeXX

I will say, the Anbernic SP literally has me wondering if I should start a game on that or my Odin 2 Mini.

This hobby is a curse.

[silent carbon]

'tis a curse indeed 😔 😅

[coral ether]

I would love another retroid pocket flip with that 3.7 inch display. Retroid seems like a good candidate to give us something great that can fold

[lament idol]

Same, the RP Flip rocks. I’d take 16:9 or 4:3, I just need a GC/PS2 capable clamshell man 😢

[coral ether]

Me too man. I’d take a 16:9 too. I had the watermelon Flip that I sold to a friend and I def miss that. I’m just bored of the usual candy bar style for handhelds. It’s silly but they feel the least “retro” or “nostalgic” to me which is important I’ve learned, otherwise I’d be happy with something else

[lament idol]

If they had put more time into cooking a little longer on the RP Flip and it came out with a better hinge and 4Pro/5 soc I think it would’ve done crazy numbers. They still have a chance before anybody else tries to make a GC/PS2 clamshell

[past walrus]

We're just pretending that the x18s doesn't exist. 😂

[lament idol]

I forget it does all the time

But it’s also not in stock anymore

Also the cool thing about the Flip was the sliders. There’s currently no devices on the market being made that I know of that use em’. I can see why some people dislike them, but I personally love em’ and think there should be a choice for people who want them

[coral ether]

That felt more like a GPD XD clone/competitor and I remember reading about some shortcomings that were hard to get over. I almost bought a new but I’m okay that I didn’t. Not to mention, I care a Lot about pocket ability now. I’d wager a lot of us have a larger device that isn’t pocket friendly but is powerful

My Ally X is awesome, but I can’t take that to the barber or something

[summer garden]

We have good news. Is it really really really good in purple colour?

[chrome jasper]

this thing is gonna blow ass and not be allowed on airplanes

[coral ether]

Blow ass you say 🗿count me in

[quiet lynx]

Any news?

[feral marsh]

I mean other than the new pics from a couple days ago no

[lilac heart]

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[bitter folio]

What happens in 2 weeks? Is that when they're announcing a release date?

[coarse tulip]

Someone randomly came in here and said launch on Oct 18th and some people latched on that.

[quiet lynx]

Those awful colors?

Meh

[lilac heart]

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[silent carbon]

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[quiet lynx]

I am starting to believe they don't know what they are doing

[raw sentinel]

i concur. The straw that broke the camel's back for me, was discovering the new batch of Miyoo Mini v4 (v4.1 according to some) are now about 1 mm thicker and won't fit in the 3d printed cases made for v1-4~

[errant ravine]

I think even the original v4 is slightly taller iirc

[rotund ember]

I mean, tbf, why would they worry about fitting into a 3rd party homebrew case

[hexed forum]

I mean, tbf, they rely on 3rd party OS's to make their devices what they are, why not rely on people liking to personalize their handhelds?

[rotund ember]

Because they don't rely on either

CFWs make up for a large portion of the userbase, but not the majority of users

[lilac coyote]

It’s simple guys, sometimes you gotta act like you don’t care and aren’t interested, in order to get someone’s attention!😏

That’s the only way miyoo will release the flip

[quiet lynx]

From everything I've read and seen up till now I believe the flip will flop unfortunately. The whole Miyoo mindset lacks confidence and discipline

It looks more like a proof of concept / end of college project than an actual company that's building a product they want to sell

[dusk trail]

But then my question is, considering the hype, why isn't any other competitor interest in copying this design and beat Miyoo on time?

[delicate cloud]

It's china, they don't care

They've been at this for a long while with the same response. I doubt they even care about the release date for overseas

With that being said, we have the RG35xxSp

[scenic hull]

miyoos devices all suck on their own anyway
both the miyoo mini/+ and the A30 had to be fixed by community firmware devs before they were even worth using
why does anyone expect this to be different?
the rg35xx SP is serviceable in stock firmware AND has like 5 community firmware/OS to choose from

[rotund ember]

why does anyone expect this to be different?

Because lots of people got the original Mini long after it was released, with both the issues fixed and Onion being a thing

[dark oracle]

I must be the only person out there who thought the miyoo mini stock os was serviceable

[arctic surge]

I thought so too.

[dark oracle]

the only real problem I had with the stock software was that hazy screen calibration which got fixed in a firmware update

[summer garden]

Does it have hdmi?

[pale gyro]

Still nothing yet?

[proven jay]

asked for a release date, they said that there no release date yer
dunno if they meant in general or thst they don't have decided yet the date for the end of this october

[pale gyro]

I never trust anything from Ali express messager

[lilac heart]

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[quiet lynx]

the miyoo flip is the friends we made along the way

[silent carbon]

The real miyoo is the flips we did along the way

[timber spindle]

Mini flip needs to die

in order for Miyoo Mini FLip DS edition

[delicate cloud]

I just look forward to the community doing CFW honestly.

[royal vapor]

More like miyoo mini flop

[swift scroll]

Miyoo flip is just a collective hallucination

[cunning tiger]

did the game just not run lol

[subtle mango]

Sometimes I worry about them

[onyx minnow]

Yeah it’s a cool vid to show off the device. But maybe post one where the game actually runs fine 😂😅

[frigid flint]

yeah lol, don't think these guys understand marketing 😄

[late field]

interesting so there's two frontends

[jolly sequoia]

I kind of dig those pastel buttons actually. Would love the sticks to be grey as the dpad though. And stock EmuStation would be fire 🔥

[opaque breach]

Not unlike the GKD Bubble's way of doing it really

And it seems the ES on the Miyoo isn't touching any actual RetroArch functionalities

[silent carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-price-gif-11163798864566121593

[late field]

Like ArkOS

Might actually be arkos if it’s rk3566 🤣

[empty cedar]

Nothing gets me more pumped for a device than a video of a game not loading

What are they doing man 💀

[coral ether]

At this rate Anbernic has 7 SP devices in the making, all of which add and take away a different feature

[rotund ember]

I mean, seems like Emulation Station doesn't expose neither RetroArch settings, not the actual system settings

Could be just a vanilla/upstream Emulation Station version that people used on like Raspberry Pi builds 10 years ago

Don't know why even bother with ES at this point 😄

[lament idol]

I wanted to be excited for this thing but it’s not lookin’ good man 😬

[rotund ember]

I'm mostly curious to see which chip they're using, and whether or not they'll get good thermals

Then again, RK3566 won't be enough for me to switch from the SP, I think

I think I'd want like a low-end Mediatek or a Unisoc chip for an upgrade, whatever won't get hot in a chassis like this

[opaque breach]

Honestly a downgrade would also be welcome. Just the Miyoo Mini Plus, but flip, like the RG35XXSP

[rotund ember]

Well, there's already the SP

Adding sticks to it, while not actually being able to play anything that needs two sticks is like erm why?

A clamshell that could play PSP well would be fire though

[coral ether]

Too bad that was discontinued though

I had one in that color and sold to a buddy

I regret

[quiet lynx]

mistakes make you stronger

[rotund ember]

Yeeeeah, I missed that one

Also tbh, when it was revealed, I didn't get the appeal of clamshells

After SP I want to clamshell everything in my life

[summer garden]

Heat issue. I knew it

[west ivy]

What chipset is this using again? It's been so long since it was first announced I've lost intrest multiple times

[indigo locust]

Last time it was mentioned was a rk3566

[dusk trail]

Didn't sell well?

[west ivy]

Still not interested

[indigo locust]

They could change it. It's been a year since they mentioned that chip

[coral ether]

At this point I’m ready for more performance in the form factor

[silk axle]

The goated handheld

[coral ether]

Oh you know what? If Anbernic moved the speaker and put a 3DS slider where the speaker is on the Anbernic, that’d be pretty comfortable

Although dual speakers would be cool

[lilac heart]

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[serene raft]

Looks to be an old 32bit version of emulationstation, so either:

1. it's yet another ultra low power soc pulled from a random embedded system like the allwinner a33
2. it's an arm64 chip like the rk3566 running 32bit libs (best case)

Then again it's a custom, very feature limited version of emulationstation forked by miyoo

[dusty pecan]

rk3566

[serene raft]

Yes, i'm aware that it's supposedly a 3566

More than likely will be

[royal vapor]

Why would they post this lmao

[coarse tulip]

Hype baby 🔥 They know what they are cooking lmao

[night raven]

These guys have just completely missed the boat, especially now that the 35xx SP has new colors and better buttons

I was a day one ride or die and now I don't even care and probably won't even buy it, gg Miyoo

[calm smelt]

Nah. There's a constant want for a clamshell with sticks. Unless Anbernic makes it themselves, this is still the only upcoming one. (I think)

The one that MagicX is making is still somewhat far away.

[scenic hull]

imagine anbernic makes a 40xx sp with sticks

[calm smelt]

I hope they will make a 28xx with sticks first.

[night raven]

At this point I'm willing to bet Anbernic puts out a revision or a new model of the SP before Miyoo, and I'm not even memeing

[gilded wasp]

I’m sure these xx devices will be the same next year but all with a better chip and some improvements. Call them the YY or something

[languid sundial]

g99 or T610 would be awesome

[night raven]

I don't even want the 35xx SP to get a better chip, I just want the current model to get as cheap as possible

That way I can be really rough with mine because so what it's really cheap

I want to see that sucker down to $30

[raw sentinel]

RG35XXSP2, will have the two sticks and be released before the mini flip

[topaz swift]

Why would you make it worse then the regular SP ._.

[rotund ember]

I have a strong feeling Anbernic doesn't add sticks to lots of devices not because of a design philosophy, but as a cost-cutting measure

H700 IIRC is like 70 cents cheaper than RK3566, but considering SP sold over 50K units, that's $35000 saved just on SP

So if sticks cost even a dollar that could be significant to them

[dusty pecan]

tbh its perfectly reasonable at this point

2025 refresh of SP with even the most janky sticks would print them far more money than their 4 inch cubes

[summer garden]

If miyoo puts H700 in the miyoo mini flip, anbernic will release it next 2-3 weeks

[dusty pecan]

they wont, its too late for any chip swap

also h700 doesnt have any real advantage (beside price) to 3566

[rotund ember]

I think the big point of H700 is that it's not mainlined

That's why even though there are open source firmwares, there is no open source kernel for it

So it must be harder to clone it

Anbernic kinda learned their lesson with RK3566

(and, well, technically they kinda did a Miyoo Mini trick here)

[round ridge]

I thought that decision was always based on how drunk Maxzhou was.

[coral ether]

Am I wrong in assuming that there's better driver support for the 3566 and thus better performance?

I know Anbernic is closed source too

[modest surge]

The cons outweigh the pros for me when comparing the two chips

As far as the 3566 goes

[pale gyro]

This handheld is clown shoes.

[rotund ember]

Well 3566 is simply a stronger chip, but it mostly shows in tasks that YouTube reviews typically don't show

[pale gyro]

3566 have power issues still. They have major WiFi issues. It is a trash SOC that needs to die. Like most Linux handhelds.

[coral ether]

Nah, we need linux handhelds man

Android is too bloated for lower tier devices

I like Android but not for something lower powered

[pale gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/beach-mirror-aesthetic-reflection-waves-gif-17768137

[coral ether]

Interesting, I was struggling to find any meaningful information on power differences

[pale gyro]

Don't buy lower powered handhelds.

[coral ether]

Whack

I like my 35xx SP

my Odin 2 Mini is nice too though

[rotund ember]

Simply put, 3566 plays up to PSX at a level where you don't have to think about cores and you have headroom for stuff like rewind and scaling (like 2x for PSX in Duckstation)

It probably also plays more N64/DC/PSP, but I never bothered to look too much into that on my SP

I'd honestly want something stronger than RK3566, but when Anbernic's new line of devices is weaker than the last one, hey, beggars can't be choosers

[coral ether]

Yeah honestly The form factor is the only reason I got the 35xx SP, but I would like more power. With that said, I'd take an analog stick before performance if I had to choose. The DPAD is not doing it for me in N64 and Dreamcast personally.

[pale gyro]

3566 still sturggles with many PSX games. VALKYRIE PROFILE, Koudelka just to name two.

[indigo locust]

The community needs a Heathly balance of all tiers of devices. High, mid, low, and everything inbetween.

While it's not great with that chip, at least you instantly have access to great CFW on day 1. They will just have to update for the hinge closure to sleep functionality. Like with the SP b4 it

Don't try and stop variety with your bad opinions. More diversity is good, just like in the real world with people

If you don't like it, then don't buy it. Vote with your wallet

[pale gyro]

Oh yes the CFW agreement never gets stale.

Vote with your wallet even better.

[subtle mango]

what emulator were you using for those because I've never had PSX issues with the 3566

[pale gyro]

Valkyrie is so bad in battles on it.

[coral ether]

Damn, I love that game too

Not that I'd play it again any time soon, that requires a bit more commitment than I wanna give right now

[pale gyro]

It is a harder to run game for PSX

[coral ether]

i would play the PSP version anyways

[subtle mango]

try increasing the Vram and test it out, some games I've noticed work better when you increase the Vram a smidge

[coral ether]

Or the Android version, even with the shitty controls. At least it has controller support though

[indigo locust]

What do you want to hear than?

"Your opinion sucks. You suck. Go lick anbernic's taint"

What does that even solve?!?!?!

In reality the rk3566 is a cheap chip, user friendly, beginner friendly, realily available chip that has more compatibility than their MM line. It's serving a purpose to bring Clamshells even more forward and creating something unique that was stolen from them by "Yet another Anbernic clone, that just simply got to market first"

Would we all like it to have a better chip? Of fucking course we would! Which one do you think would work best for From Factor & Price to the general Public?

Personally, the a113 from all winner has my attention, but I don't know if Crossmix would be able to handle a verticle and a Flip releasing so close together

[subtle mango]

with smaller companies it's probably not as feasible to Vote with our wallets

[pale gyro]

Man, I forgot how emotional people get over these.

[meager sky]

https://tenor.com/view/bluey-bandit-dad-heeler-bandit-heeler-chill-out-gif-6198623750623714633

[indigo locust]

I hate when people use the same crap to defend themselves with out actually bringing anything constructive to the table

[meager sky]

The discussion and disagreement is fine, the preceding part in quotes is a bit unnecessary.

[pale gyro]

The 3566 isn't user friendly. The problems after charging a device still hasn't been fixed. Gamma lite or core has helped fix these issues but are still in the early stages with many bugs.

Miyoo waiting forever to release this is the main problem.

[serene raft]

64bit mainui ✅

[scenic hull]

Miyoo has flipped to the trash

[coral ether]

I'm hanging on by a dream at this point.

[subtle mango]

I'll still buy it because clamshell

[coral ether]

I'll probably buy it too

[subtle mango]

Unless it's like $100+ then naw

[coral ether]

Oh yeah, if it's above $100 I'm out. I'll wait for the second hand market

Honestly this SP market is ripe for the picking

Anbernic was smart to launch something at all while people were foaming at the mouth for this

[subtle mango]

The whole clamshell market is ripe, with the RPflip having major QC issues with the hinge and the X18s have bleh controls, there's a whole market space that could be populated by killer devices

[coral ether]

I had the win mini for awhile which is stellar, but the cost is prohibitive and the form factor is limiting for what it can do

[subtle mango]

Yeah X86 handhelds are a whole 'nother ball game compared to arm devices

[coral ether]

I've had so many of these x86 devices, mostly GPD, Loki Max, and some corporate devices

Ultimately I'm on an Ally X lol

[subtle mango]

Steam deck and win 600 for me

[coral ether]

Odin 2 Mini is in a weird limbo position for me so I'm still mulling over selling or not

Yeah the Steam Deck was awesome, but didn't quite hit it for me

[subtle mango]

Android just needs more higher end emulators to utilize that hardware more

Like PS3, and we'll cemu is in the works for android so there's that

[cloud crystal]

me personally

this has been dead since the 35sp stole its thunder

also
3566 is literally nothing special

[coral ether]

The 35xx SP just made me hungrier for a better SP device now

I'm ready

[chilly thicket]

I don’t think this will be enough of a step up if at all

Retroid needs to make a flip 2

[obsidian vessel]

I want a flip device that can handle some N64 and PSP

i thought this would be it

why is it taking so long 😦

[cloud crystal]

the flip 2 will save the gaming industry

[pale gyro]

PSP at 4:3 on 3566. Good luck my friend.

[cloud crystal]

frameskip 5

[pale gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/bleach-simpson-homer-gif-12946893

[obsidian vessel]

i havent done a whole lot of time on it, but Crisis core was running OK on a 3326 ?

just assumed a 3566 would be a bit better

[pale gyro]

Define OK?

[obsidian vessel]

playable ?

[pale gyro]

I will give you my definition. Playable has to be no Frame skip and works like OG hardware at 1x. If I have go into settings and frame skip or drop down to .75. That isn't playable to me.

[obsidian vessel]

so are the popular PSP games playable on a 3566?

[pale gyro]

To me. No. If you make changes and tinker maybe.

[obsidian vessel]

that might be ok for me. big question too would be n64

maybe its all a pipe dream 😛 flip is taking forever anyway

[dark oracle]

this is imo the wrong handheld for psp anyway 😆

[obsidian vessel]

well for PS1 and below I have my mini+

for switch and PC games I have my steam deck

i got an RGB10X on a whim (cheap) and I like its power but build quality is meh and arkOS is also ...

so looking for a pocketable lower-mid-range device

the anbernic flip doesnt have analogs

[coral ether]

Yeah that's different for everyone. I would call Melee playable on the Retroid Pocket Flip, but it wasn't very appealing to me lol

It was more of a "I'm waiting for my haircut, I'll beat Mario up for a sec"

[lament idol]

The biggest problem with the RP Flip is it’s fragile and the cooling

If they fix that they’re golden

[coral ether]

100%

I have been holding out for a refresh

Now is the perfect time

SD865 in the flip form factor would be sick

5.5 inch display, minimal bezel, better cooling

that would be hot

You guys remember that Gamecube SP render that was floating around like 15-20 years ago?

[obsidian vessel]

is the RP flip the one like a DS?

[coral ether]

The one that youtuber made real

Yes

[lament idol]

Yeah I’ve been sharing that around

[coral ether]

I lvoed that video. I wanted one so bad as a kid.

[lament idol]

That video (and the want for another Flip) made me photoshop this:

[obsidian vessel]

yo that looks sick

[coral ether]

That is hot

[obsidian vessel]

with a Snapdragon 865 id buy 10

i posted my #🤷│what-do-i-buy

[coral ether]

If they made it angular they should be able to fit a bigger display and better internals. There's a lot of wasted space making it curved.

[obsidian vessel]

but yeah I really want a pocketable mid-range device

[lament idol]

I was thinking for the space in the middle they could put the start and select like an NES/SNES/Gamecube controller, and put the home/android buttons on the bottom like the current Flip/3DS

[dense oar]

I personally think the xxsp is literally perfect for what it is

[coral ether]

100%, it's awesome.

I still want something better, but not because it can't handle what I want personally, but more so because I want an analog stick and my preferred cores (like BSNES)

And better shader support that requires more power

[obsidian vessel]

i also want an analog stick 😦

[coral ether]

i'd be fine with just that honestly

Although i'd like better DS emulation too

Maybe I am missing something but I'm pretty sure the performance is just a bit under

[obsidian vessel]

H700 does DS pretty well i think

but yeah 3566 be better

[rotund ember]

Well, sure, but this year the mid-range is severely lacking, so I really don‘t see a healthy balance there

Oh, and RK3566 is a particularly bad chip to say „you‘ll get CFW support day one“. The Rockchip dev scene is more particular about open source, and to my knowledge Miyoo doesn‘t have a great track record

[coral ether]

Anbernic doesn't open source their stuff unfortunately either

[indigo locust]

I would perfer if they didn't do a rk 3566. I would rather that a113 that is in the TSP. Crossmix gave it such a massive boost

Either that or a d900 like in the retroid base 4 & Odin Lite

I think the t618 Chips are getting harder to source, hence why you end up seeing less new devices being made

But a Miyoo Flip with 2 sticks, and n64/Dreamcast support would be amazing

Indo agree with people above. Psp on that screen would probably be terrible

[rotund ember]

And couple of their Rockchip devices were specifically boycotted for that reason

[coral ether]

Honestly I didn't know this until recently but it is frustrating.

There doesn't seem to be any special sauce that Anbernic uses

[dusty pecan]

yeah yeah sure enjoy handheld prices starting from 100 usd

linux > android, anyone that used daijisho and ELEC/RockNIX will tell you that

[indigo locust]

Agreed

[dusty pecan]

while true 3566 is weak,at circa 70 - 80 usd it has a decent price/performance ratio - can play up to NDS, with most of N64 and DC, some PSP and Saturn

ps. 3566 supports android just fine, at least on 2 gb ram equipped devices

i dont think it makes a lot of difference, except N64 (Mupen64FZ)

[winged bear]

if i had to deal with android for every device i would only have the odin 2 and I'd smash everything else against my knee

[dusty pecan]

problem - no linux devices beyond RK3566 tier

except RP5

gameforce ace doesnt count lel

[winged bear]

well, it's still a chip that exists

obviously android is better for mid tier stuff

but acting like there's not a point to linux devices... nope

[dusty pecan]

pffff

miyoo mini +

it has a mere 128 MB of RAM

good luck with android on that

lowest end android device ive ever seen was RG351P with lineageOS

[lilac heart]

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[rotund ember]

I mean, Android just works better for battery-powered devices

Which is why I‘d strongly prefer something as portable as a clamshell to not run Linux

That, and BT audio is a given, which is also great because I‘m not carrying wired earbuds just for a handheld

Granted, audio works REALLY well on Rocknix (for RK3566 even better than Android, in my experience), but it‘s still not ubiquitous on Linux CFWs

[obsidian vessel]

lol just saw the twitter post from sunday. "Final preperations" uh huh sure

[coral ether]

Well, confirmed my Junglecats work. Just gotta fashion something together so that I can pretend this makes me happy

[elfin patrol]

Lol what is that double stick top layout

[empty cedar]

Cursed but I kinda dig it lol

[somber bone]

all that for a disconnected dpad 😭

but really cool proof of concept!

[steep snow]

Why?

[loud quartz]

Is there really that much performance difference between the RK3566 and the H700?

[rotund ember]

Well, in my experience it's almost like Anbernic's RG351 vs RG353

Not a generational leap (neither will have great N64, DC and PSP), but you'll feel it for SNES, GBA and PSX

Like I love my SP, but sometimes it makes me feel it's 2020 all over again

[dusty pecan]

allegedly ys, slight difference on DS, N64 and PSP

[winged bear]

remember the 3326 devices were pretty much the highest tier and were around 100 bucks, now you can get the sp for 40-50 bucks

[dusty pecan]

and saturn is closer to playable on 3566

few fps more

[frigid arrow]

You can still find the written retrogamecorps reviews where he is reviewing RK3326 devices calling them powerful.

Which they were. But it sounds funny 3 years later

[winged bear]

yeah lmao

and i remember paying 140€ for my 351v

serves me right for using amazon

[dusty pecan]

i paid ~90ish usd for 351P in 2021

at winter i bough R36S for slighly over 30 usd, times surely change

[rotund ember]

I mean, SP is $60, Arc-S is $68 with a bigger screen (these prices are from Anbernic's website)

That's before you consider that Powkiddy is selling RK3566 for $70 (RGB30) and RK3326 for $40 (RGB10X and V10)

[winged bear]

aliexpress prices are much lower though

[rotund ember]

Well I used one source to compare prices in even conditions (without like particular stores or shipping to particular countries). Great if they are even lower

[coral ether]

At this rate I'm surprised Nintendo hasn't announced a GBA SP classic yet

[coral ether]

The DPAD is absolute trash, but the SP's DPAD is within reach so this would purely be for the analog stick

I love the Junglecats in design and as a concept, but the execution was bad and overpriced

Still, I love them and they've lasted forever which is rare for a Razer product

[rotund ember]

That would be fire (we all know it's gonna be hacked like G&W)

[dusk trail]

This is the comment rant about how big the bazels are that you were not (probably) looking for. And the controls need to be recessed a bit, but yeah, I would buy that too

[lament idol]

For bezels a year ago this isn’t bad at all, I feel like people obsessing over bezels feels like has become a more recent thing. I personally kinda prefer just a little bit of bezel compared to bezel-less for the retro aesthetic. Recessed controls would be neat.

I agree tho if they did it now I think they def could make the screen to shell ratio bigger

[frail kestrel]

having 2 sd card slots means you can just have a 2nd one just for roms and you can switch between devices

[opaque breach]

It depends on implementation but always is more restrictive than with 2 cards.
If the single card is the games card while the system rests on an internal flash module (A la Miyoo Mini Plus or certain Android devices with bad eMMC), if the flash is bad, the board is basically bricked unless you are really good at doing board repairs, and there have been bricked Miyoo Mini incidents reported.
If the single card is the system card (a la Powkiddy v10), migrating the games to work on another handheld might be a lot more challenging than warranted, because it has to be several partitions that the other systems can't directly use. However this is less of an issue if you don't plan to share a card between different handhelds.

[steep snow]

Ah ok thanks

[coral ether]

Damn, Yoshi 64 is not running very smoothly on my Anbernic SP, now I really want a more powerful flip device

[steep snow]

There's the retroid pocket flip but it's got a lot of qc issues

[obsidian vessel]

It’s also a lot bigger like a ds

[coral ether]

I had one for awhile that I sold to a buddy of mine

It’s really cool

[hushed field]

Is it out yet?

[meager sky]

Yes, also you've been chosen to win 1 billion dollars.

Wait, no, that's not right

[hushed field]

Score!

[bronze forge]

You’ve been chosen to win a billion dollars, just send $10,000 to this account to confirm your identity so we can complete the transaction

[subtle mango]

send $10k in monopoly money

[fleet gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/qui-gon-jinn-meditating-pray-patience-calm-gif-9928904

[obsidian vessel]

need this to be real

the flip i mean

and then need onionOS support and portmaster

not asking for much am I

[hybrid silo]

idk why it doesnt have rtc
that's so dumb

would cost them like 10-20 cents a pop

[opaque breach]

No way it won't actually have that

[indigo locust]

Question, what is the point of RTC on these devices? Are there Specific games that require it?

[hexed forum]

Pretty sure a lot of pokemon games use it.

[sand blade]

Wait, is it confirmed the Flip doesn’t have RTC?

Because they have reimplemented it into newer Miyoo Mini’s.

[hybrid silo]

that's what i thought too

till i asked them
and several others did

bit of a dealbreaker for me i think idk cant decide if i value rtc or sticks more
probably rtc tbh based on what i play

even tho i wanted this coz of the sticks

[sand blade]

Well, to be specific I know they definitely have it in the newest Miyoo Mini Plus’, I’ve even got one of the new Motherboards that has the RTC implemented properly.

[hybrid silo]

yea yea ik

i mean that's why i thought flip would have it too

[sand blade]

So wait, did Miyoo confirm it won’t have RTC?

[hybrid silo]

yes

to me and others

🤷‍♀️
im coping that batch 2 will have it lol

not that im buying anything rn anyw

[sand blade]

Oh damn, so as soon as that news gets fully public, this thing is just straight up even more dead than it already was, unless they change their mind and can implement it.

[feral marsh]

Miyoo further shooting themself in the foot

[coral ether]

What is RTC?

[hybrid silo]

real-time clock

[rotund ember]

I mean, if people have started asking Miyoo about specs again, do we still know it's RK3566?

I think they said that a long time ago, but don't know if they're still stating this

Just would be weird to have RK3566 without RTC, I don't know if there's another device like that

[coral ether]

Ah, well that’s a disappointing omission.

What hardware is necessary exactly?

[dark oracle]

a pointless omission lol like jheronimus said all the other rk3566 devices have it

[hybrid silo]

i mean id love for the guy on miyoo customer service to be mistaken

fingers crossed

[coral ether]

Me to

I def will probably buy this either way

I say this every day but I will wait for the RG Cube SP.

That’s my hope.

[hybrid silo]

type shit

[lament idol]

I was thinkin’ more like:

That moment when babies have more sturdy clamshell choices than the adults

[coral ether]

I don't want the momentum to die, here's my post of the day

[dusk trail]

Why are we still here just to suffer

[somber bone]

tfw Miyoo Flip is a microcosm of life

[coral ether]

You know I want the RG Cube in SP form but I think what I really want is a Retroid Pocket Mini in SP form

[cloud crystal]

did we get lied to

[obsidian vessel]

SP with 865 would be insane lol

i'd want at least a 3.7-4" screen

might be a chonky boy

[coarse tulip]

Look it takes awhile to set them all up in a room and smoke enough cigarettes in there to get that Miyoo yellow.

[obsidian vessel]

by the time this comes out, anbernic will have released their sp gen 2 lol

[indigo locust]

By the time this releases. Retroid will announce and release the Flip 2: Electric Bugaloo

[scenic hull]

You under estimate how much a lot of Chinese smoke

[opaque breach]

At least it's not weed

[tranquil citrus]

Oh I'm sure lot of the designers smoke weed when designing some of these handhelds

[coarse tulip]

I think everyone forgot the coke nail era of flip lore lol

[languid sundial]

Grey buttons (same like dpad) would look so much better on white one

[indigo locust]

Did that thing not even load the image if the psp game?

[subtle mango]

Love how we have all the drivers and stuff to get the 3566 going easy peasy and miyoo still can't get it going

[blazing maple]

Bruh

[coral ether]

Harambe was when the timeline split. We’re on the bad timeline and that’s why we don’t have the Miyoo Flip

[past walrus]

Has to be supply and pricing/money issues. The longer it takes the more they have to lower the price. I would've paid $130 when announced...but probably $89 now. 🤔

[coral ether]

Right. My personal theory is they wanted it to be thinner and smaller to match the gba SP, but it’s not easy to co

[blazing maple]

Yeah

[empty cedar]

I was watching Joey's video on th Ayaneo Pocket Micro and he brought up a good point: when it's this much time between announcement/leak/tease to release that's more time for competitors to butt in on what you've got going on

With the 35xxSP doing as well as it is idk how good this'll sell

[obsidian vessel]

i still want one if it supports Linux and the build quality is top notch

rk3566 will do slightly more than H700

[blazing maple]

hopefully the flip is at least good enough to upgrade from my plus

and supports onion

[coral ether]

I really just want a bit more power and analog sticks

Although I don’t wanna sacrifice battery life if possible

Yoshi 64 has just enough jank to remind me of the limitations of the Anbernic SP

[jolly sequoia]

The Flip will not support Onion since it’s not the same chipset. However the RK3566 already have a lot of good CFW available.

I’m still waiting for it, hoping for better controls than Anbernic like they usually do, and it also seems more compact than the xxsp

[opaque breach]

It doesn't depend on the Flip - it depends on the Onion team

[late field]

So what if there are videos the P60 also has tons of them

[onyx minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-crying-goodbye-gif-21509149

Poor P60

[indigo locust]

I did talk with the onion team last week on their discord channel on a different Retro Handheld server. They have interest in the Flip, if it ever releases. However, they would love if Miyoo would just reach out to them for once

[coral ether]

We did it

My Anbernic EsPee Pro

I'm using the clamp parts from a universal Junglecat clamp adapter that I don't use since I'm on iOS and these don't work on iOS, but they do work with the SP

[empty cedar]

Miyoo not reaching out to them is crazy, like the Minis would've done wayyyyy worse without Onion

[chrome jasper]

any day now

[coral ether]

At this point I'm just waiting for Anbernics next offering

[meager sky]

https://tenor.com/view/nacho-why-confused-jack-black-gif-8714598

[coral ether]

Because n64 that’s why

[pale gyro]

Checks the pins. No new updates. Back to other things

[late field]

The A30 took 2 years to get produced. Maybe we’ll see this in 2026 🤞

[proud bough]

This was cooking for a year already or more, so hopefully before then

[late field]

The p60 got overcooked too

[proud bough]

I think you mean cremated

[blazing maple]

oof

[serene gyro]

Anyone here wish Miyoo Flip had used the same sticks as the MagicX Mini M? xxSP is too chonky for my pocket so I am still rooting for Miyoo Flip. I hope Miyoo will release the Flip before MagicX also comes up with a SP.

[obsidian vessel]

We need the rg406sp

[lilac heart]

Release this year? Not going to happen

[coral ether]

I've moved on. Miyoo told me she'd be here, but it's only be radio silence. A man can only wait so long before he moves on

[night raven]

We will actually get a 35xx SP revision with sticks before we get this thing

[swift scroll]

Hot take: GTA 6 will get delayed several times and still release before this

[obsidian vessel]

id buy that but hope it would have a faster chip than h700. they should make a T820 sp version. rg406sp

[coral ether]

I’d take a T618 too if that was an option

That was a decent chip

Not enough for GC/wii or PS2 but should cover everything else

Although I was playing Melee happily on my RP Flip

[hushed field]

Yes, but for $100

[hushed field]

Novembers product to be release in Dec

[obsidian vessel]

haha idk about that, might have to be rg405sp for $100

[haughty dune]

Personally I think it's because the Cubs won the series in '16. I knew when that happened some kind of deal was struck and we were in for bad times.

[late field]

not gonna happen it’ll be 2x thicker as the t820 needs a fan 😆

[delicate cloud]

Of dear, this is foreboding

[lament idol]

I agree even though I would really enjoy/prefer near full Gamecube/PS2 abilities soon. My main problem with the Flip is the cooling and the hinges so if a company did the same chip but built better especially in 4:3 I might bite

[delicate cloud]

If it ran ES, your best bet it's a rk3566

Or around that power

[fleet gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/soon-tm-soon-meme-half-sword-hs-gif-3448273689667585576

[coral ether]

I know you’re joking but i can’t actually tell

[gaunt dune]

Man it's really hard to stick in for this one. No news and what I do see doesn't seem very promising.

As a day 1 A30 buyer I'm skeptical to say the least.

[hexed forum]

I at least expected something about it being pushed back again, Lol. Just not nothen'.

[lilac heart]

https://tenor.com/view/canceled-cancelled-youre-gif-21164349

[coral ether]

Was hoping they would just say what their progress is

Like, if the battery is giving them truble or if the hinge needs more work

I've moved on to other devices but I still want one

[shell wraith]

shit is ded

[summer garden]

Are we there yet?

[proven jay]

the only flip that we are receiving until now is the middle finger

[tranquil citrus]

They shouldn't have annouced it in thr 1st place

now it just left a bad taste in everyone's mouths

[late field]

Atleast this one didn't get marketed yet

The P60 did

[hexed forum]

It would've been too good.

[rotund ember]

Just noticed this had a labeled mic hole

Like a lot of Android handhelds have a mic hole (or a hidden mic, like the Arc), but I never understood why they do this

[feral marsh]

The RG Arc has a mic?

[late field]

https://tenor.com/view/ds-gif-13535534119341743410

[rotund ember]

Yeah, someone found it when they did a teardown

Doesn't have a hole for it in the shell though

Again, that was the D model, not sure about the S

Maybe it's a requirement for Android devices?

Because I don't think I've ever seen a Linux-only handheld with that hole

[coral ether]

Could be recycling boards?

[tranquil citrus]

Are 800x480p displays even worth using? Doesn't integer scale psp so why even have such wide aspect ratio. 720x480p would have the same perks unless we are talking about 3ds. But lets be honest. 480p handhelds are probably not playing 3ds games.

[obsidian vessel]

im playing 3ds on my 405m 640x480 😛

or just play single screen w/ swap

[chilly thicket]

720x480 doesn’t seem available any larger than 3”

[hybrid silo]

well
october is over
🫡
time to save up for an SP

[rotund ember]

Oh damn, I forgot we were expecting Flip in October

[tranquil citrus]

We were expecting it in 2023 december

[proven jay]

guys we're cooked, miyoo flip will be released in the past, no flip for us in the present

[frigid arrow]

Russ made a twitter post back in August saying miyoo were struggling with the software, and aiming for a Christmas release.

https://x.com/RetroGameCorps/status/1824897496667377834?t=qe6yElgQyKOxbx61QGBvwg&s=19

Retro Game Corps (@RetroGameCorps) on X

@Luigi88064118 @RetroBreezeYT @RetroHandhelds @RetroTechDadYT The latest grumblings I'm hearing is that Miyoo is still struggling with its Flip software, and are aiming for a Christmas release. The RG40XXV will be launching 26 August.

Twitter · Aug 17, 2024, 7:54 PM

But, y'know, it was people estimating software issues will be fixed in 4 months, so who knows.

[winged bear]

we missed the qte and now we're in the bad timeline

the flip was a missable

[somber bone]

eff now we gotta wait till the New Game +

[fleet gyro]

I heard the flip was released in April of 1861.

[proven jay]

miyoo is a so advanced company that plan in 4d

[chilly thicket]

a non-linear perception of time would certainly explain releasing a handheld that can't do full speed yoshi's island out of the box in 2024

[cloud crystal]

can the chipset not run snes yoshi's island

[chilly thicket]

I’m referring to the a30. I think it will run yoshi’s island now via cfw but on launch the stock did not full speed lmao

[cloud crystal]

i think trimui stole miyoo's soul and all that remains is a husk

[dawn bone]

Wild, did not know that

[fair gate]

I’m sure some of you are in the same situation and waiting before pulling the trigger on the anbernic sp especially with the AliExpress sales. What’s everyone else’s cut off point before they finally cave in, give up on the flip and buy the SP?

[tranquil citrus]

when rg40xxsp releases

[lilac heart]

Next year 😛

[chrome jasper]

the flip drops on december 31st 1969

[subtle mango]

No, December 31st 1962

[royal vapor]

Actually I think a 28xx sp would be rad, like a beefed up funkey

[empty cedar]

Still waiting for the NanoXX

[coral ether]

Oh man, a Anbernic SP but the difference is it’s the size of the actually GBA SP would be great

I’d take that

[chilly thicket]

I'd like to see one that uses a 2.9" 720x480 that integer scales gba

the screen exists as a replacement screen for real GBAs

[safe pond]

I hope once this (eventually) releases, someone on etsy makes plugs to block the stick holes

really not digging them

it's not how nature intended

[wind osprey]

Why not get the anbernic then?

[safe pond]

I'm heavily considering it,

[wind osprey]

For one, it actually exists.

[safe pond]

but I've read miyoo normally build higher quality

[wind osprey]

Debatable

[safe pond]

I have no experience with either

[wind osprey]

If you’re gonna just plug the thing that differentiates the two devices then you might as well just get the device that’s already there

[safe pond]

I have a few gripes with the 35SP's design too that I'm not sure will be present on the miyoo unit

[wind osprey]

For example?

[safe pond]

the battery's location relative to the chipset

[wind osprey]

I mean. They’re working with 3d space and the battery has to go somewhere. I doubt miyoo will put it elsewhere

But, crucially, we may also never know because this doesn’t exist yet

[safe pond]

a pi zero in an original gba sp shell has room for a battery not near the chipset

[wind osprey]

I’ve had an sp for a while and the battery relative to the chip has never presented a problem

So take that however you will

[safe pond]

yeah I doubt it

it's

actually a problem*

that was all meant to be one line

accidentlly hitting enter made me sound like a dick lmao

I doubt the battery location is actually a problem but still

im also not desperate for a gba device right now so i wanna at least wait and see the miyoo one

have they released screen details anywhere?

the 35sp can't integer scale the gba well

[calm smelt]

Agreed. I want to see sticks on this device simply because I want to see more clamshells with sticks.

[safe pond]

sticks are cool, I just wouldn't use them

as the only system I'd use it for is gba

when i emulate retro, I like to emulate the physical hardware too

the sticks would be great if you're using it for ps1/n64 though

[proven jay]

sticks are not bad at all also for other system
on the rgb30 I've played all zelda alttp with sticks
i think it depends more from the game thar anything at the end

[fair gate]

I know we don’t know the details of the flip. But given it’s been announced ages ago , Is it correct to assume Dreamcast will be pushing it? Ie there’s literally no need for both joysticks because it probably wouldn’t be able to handle anything which needs it?

Again, this might decide whether I pick up and SP. What do people think? Will it be much more powerful than the anbernic SP?

[safe pond]

if its equal to the sp, it'll be able to handle ps1 I believe

and there are games there that do benefit from having two sticks

[winged bear]

it will be slightly more powerful than the anbernic if they kept the rk3566 they announced

[opaque breach]

Portmaster!

[tranquil citrus]

Releases. Ahahaha..

[opaque breach]

I want something similar on the Xbox controller

The removal and covering-over of sticks

Or maybe something with ONLY stocks

[lilac heart]

https://tenor.com/view/you-cant-kill-whats-already-dead-robert-martin-sheen-grace-and-frankie-cant-kill-it-gif-17582756

[frigid arrow]

Good luck playing N64 without the right stick standing in for buttons

[fair gate]

I’ve literally got the SP in my basket in AliExpress. But think I’ll wait.
This comment about the c buttons (though even with a stick it’s a pain in the arse.
The flip likely to be more powerful then the SP (though not by much)
And the size of the SP means I’m going to wait.
Thanks!

[coral ether]

The Razer Junglecats with 3D printed parts helps bridge the gap, but it also (to me) feels like more than I wanna do.

too much work just for N64 which isn't very appealing performance wise

[thick aspen]

Is this actually happening? I heard that it would release somewhere in december.

[fleet gyro]

Yea, December of 2026

[night raven]

My cut off point was a month ago when they updated the colors and buttons

The ruby red version was too irresistible

Feels good not caring about this thing anymore, it's like leaving an abusive relationship

[subtle mango]

If this comes out it'll be a pleasant surprise, but I'm not putting eggs in this basket atm

[fair gate]

I bought the SP. Couldn’t be bothered waiting. Assumed that it’ll be end of this month before anything is announced. Then another month before shipped. Then given the reliability of this company in terms of news/ updates, I’d wait until reviews before buying one anyway. So that would take me to Feb. Too impatient.

[obsidian vessel]

🫡 it’s been real, but I too bought an sp

[raw sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/top-gun-icemav-top-gun-maverick-top-gun-maverick-funeral-funeral-gif-26848803

[lilac heart]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-alive-gif-11205409

[somber bone]

[timber spindle]

November 31st 2049

see you all in 25 years

[rotund ember]

https://tenor.com/view/of-course-sure-thing-jim-carrey-obviously-naturally-gif-22607410

[tranquil citrus]

-so the flip will be released in November?
-Yes
-so the flip will be released in December?
-Yes
-so the flip will be released in January?
-Yes
-so the flip will be released in February?
-Yes

[wind osprey]

they never said which year tho.

[lilac heart]

https://tenor.com/view/earth-time-pass-gif-9298440535445932845

[subtle mango]

It's an automatic bot responder

[hexed forum]

Right? I gotta stop checking this channel. Keeps giving me hope.

[subtle mango]

just assume this handheld is dead until we see people getting it

[somber bone]

Idk if this is supposed to be a secret or not - and there’s no guarantee anything will come of this - but a certain reseller has promised the spruce team 5 Miyoo Flips… so that to me makes it seem like it’s pretty likely not dead

I don’t think the reseller themselves have the units yet, but it does make it seem like the device is at least PLANNED to actually be released

[opaque breach]

Reseller has no final say in this

[somber bone]

no of course not, but that makes it sound like they've been in communication with Miyoo on some level

[night raven]

I don't believe their lies. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, fool me five times and it must mean I have brain damage

[dusky bane]

Based on the "leaked" pictures, do you believe that this one will be slimmer than Anbernic's ?

[obtuse cobalt]

Yes I think so

[lilac heart]

https://tenor.com/view/phone-dance-toddler-cute-chubby-gif-17861755

[timber spindle]

Time to believe in the next thing

Dual screen flip

[subtle mango]

not from Miyoo

[radiant burrow]

Dual screen flip from miyoo is equally likely as the single screen flip. 😅

[coral ether]

Dual screen has limited utility with Android though I would think

I remember needing special apps with the LG G8 and dual screens adapter to get the apps to stretch into both screens

[somber bone]

Twice the screens, twice the wait time, twice the disappointment in the final result

[lilac heart]

https://www.lomiyoo.com/

Check their site 😮

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-stan-marsh-its-not-a-conspiracy-its-real-real-gif-24841709

[coarse tulip]

"wired stick" ...well idk what a wireless stick would be but that sounds more interesting lol. Just like a tiny joystick module that's paired to it.

[somber bone]

Maybe they mean that L3 is actually wired up to something this time

[fast lantern]

They actually gave it HDMI out

[inland brook]

🫨

[tawdry obsidian]

Dpad seems to look a bit better than older renders, those buttons still look so short and shallow

[vast pasture]

Wow, that looks great. I wonder if it looks close to that in real life.

[lilac heart]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

Yeah I hope so 😄

[vast pasture]

Is it just me or does it look similar to the white Trimui Brick design wise? That dpad looks similar lol

[rotund ember]

So I guess RK3566 got the final confirmation

Curious what the screen will be

[somber bone]

Did it?

[rotund ember]

I don't think there's any other Linux-compatible quad A55 on the market apart from 3566

[somber bone]

Makes sense then!

[rotund ember]

Previous images suggested the screen is smaller than the SP. Would be cool if it were that 3.2 1024x768

[vast pasture]

Ah so no MuOS on this?

Hopefully a relatively easy MinUI port then

[rotund ember]

And yeah, add RGB lightning and a logo to the dpad and this would really look like a TrimUI product

[sand blade]

Maybe Miyoo’s letting those guys take charge for the Flip?

[rotund ember]

Would be cool, I hear TrimUI has better quality than Miyoo

[vast pasture]

TriMiyoo flip

[rotund ember]

OCD people will hate that text centering

Also what happened to STARS

Damn, I'm very tempted to get this just because of the chip alone

If it ends up having BT and a higher-res screen it'd be even easier to justify for me

[sand blade]

Yeah, I’ve been wanting a different rk3566 handheld, and it was either this or the GKD Bubble.

[sand blade]

Although I will admit I also didn’t believe this would get released (or at least not soon), and it was moreso me just using it as an excuse to not buy a GKD Bubble from anywhere except for the official ZPG AliExpress store.

[vast pasture]

Ah yeah I hope it has a higher res screen. Kind of over 480p in these things

[subtle mango]

If we get 480p I'll be fine just because it's another clamshell on the market and that alone is rare

[fast lantern]

It has HDMI out so I'm actually ok with 480p screen. I'd mostly use it for GBA anyway

[blazing maple]

Dual sd cards

[obtuse cobalt]

I'm really hoping this will have decent cfw support after some time and hopefully get port master. If not that'll be a let down compare to the rg35xxSP. The only reason I didn't get the anbernic SP is because I was waiting for the Miyoo flip with the dual thumbsticks making it much more versatile.

[fast lantern]

Seeing how it could be the RK3566 I can see some current CFW working on it though maybe no hinge support on day 1

What I'm hoping for most is that it ships with CFW like spruce or something

[obtuse cobalt]

With it being the rk3566 and so many devices using the same chip then yeah I imagine cfw for it won't take too long to optimise and also hopefully it will have port master too. If only it'd come with spruce but it having a different chip than the a30 I don't think it will but who knows 🤷‍♂️

[fast lantern]

ArkOs would be good too

[obtuse cobalt]

Well the anbernic rg353v has the same chip so it's possible I guess

[shadow star]

Doesn’t look like it. The above pictures make it look at least just as thick as the 35xxSP. Which I’m a little disappointed in as well.

[fast lantern]

But getting HDMI for a little bit of bulk is kinda worth it. I've always wanted a miyoo device with HDMI

[obtuse cobalt]

I have a small form factor computer for tv emulation and I'll have the retroid 5 on the way too so HDMI out has never been a big deal for me with devices this small

🙌

I was talking to people on the port master discord about it and then someone shared this which means some Dev out there seems to already have port master going on it 🤯🙌

[sand blade]

I’m not, I like the slight chonk the 35SP had compared to a regular GBA SP.

[subtle mango]

A little bit of chunk with adult sized hands is more welcome than not

[shadow star]

What’s weird is that the SP is just as thick as the Retroid Flip but the Flip sits more comfortably in the pocket due to it being longer and having a rounded smooth design.
I would love if Anbernic makes another clamshell but with a wider screen.

[subtle mango]

PowKiddy X18S Pro with D900

[fast lantern]

That's not the only thing is that a transparent black Miyoo mini flip?

[obtuse cobalt]

How did I not even notice that 😅

[fast lantern]

The black and red buttons looks great

Transparent model on release is huge news

They listened

The transparency isn't as much as the 35XXSP maybe to increase durability

I can somewhat see how the hinge is too

[obtuse cobalt]

100% not even retroid is doing that with the retroid 5 but they have the transparent backs you can order at the same time and put them on 😅

Give me an atomic purple of any console and I'll get that 100%

N64 purple clear 🙌

[fast lantern]

Amen to that

[obtuse cobalt]

Then again watermelon red looks good too

[fast lantern]

I prefer jungle green

But let's see the new colors first. I'm glad I didn't pull the trigger on the 35XXSP

[obtuse cobalt]

Yeah same. I got the Miyoo a30 over the rg28xx because the thumbstick on that and also port master wasn't a big deal for me on such a small screen.

My 3 consoles will be the a30 the Miyoo flip hopefully and the retroid 5. Although I may grab a trim ui smart pro just for tinkering.

[fast lantern]

If I didn't have the switch lite I would've try to get a retroid pocket 5 too. My current devices are the miyoo mini and the plus along with the switch lite

And the miyoo flip will replace my miyoo mini plus

[tranquil citrus]

please

[proven jay]

are those images official?

[humble flax]

No word on dimensions right?

[obtuse cobalt]

Well there's no other device out there like it I'd say. Unless someone took a rg353v and made it into a clamshell 😅

[dusty pecan]

dual cards is a first for miyoo right?

can't say I'm a big fan of that as a user, not sure if it's better for devs though

[blazing maple]

It can be a good thing if you have CFW because you can have roms on one card and the OS on another

[jolly sequoia]

Some previous pictures showed it having a closer size to the OG SP than the Anbernic one, if that can help

[coral ether]

Mmmmmmmm

[proven jay]

little bit smaller

[rotund ember]

I mean, most CFWs still let you store everything on one card, so you’re not losing anything

[coral ether]

That color ain’t it, but the size is right

[proven jay]

i can't find any pictures of the side

[rotund ember]

Yeah, that’s why I’m banking on them using 3.2”

[proven jay]

tbh, I'm a little bit sceptical about use the rk3866 with this form factor

my rgb30 get quite hot, and inside there is a little bit of space

[rotund ember]

Well yeah, Anbernic had some thermal issues with H700

So RK3566 at the very least is not more efficient than that

[proven jay]

if they use that new display thst is in circulation like the trim ui brick i would be really surprised

particularly because there was no info before of that

[rotund ember]

Maybe Miyoo would do a Miyoo thing and pick a chip nobody else is using, but they did say RK3566 in he past

The only other viable quad A55 chip I can think of would be S905X3/X4 from all those TV boxes

[proven jay]

the rk was confirmed months ago, it will make sense any way change it because the heat issue, particularly because the anbernic one had similar issues with a lower powered chip

[rotund ember]

Yeah, it is entirely possible you won’t be able to benefit from RK3566 extra power due to heat, unfortunately

[proven jay]

you're actually cooking well about it

[rotund ember]

Yeah, the screen size comparison makes me pretty sure it’s not 3,5”

[proven jay]

wonder the resolution at rhis pojnt👀👀

[rotund ember]

Not that there aren’t other benefits from having a stronger chip, just maybe nothing will change for 5th gen emulation

Having more performance often means you can do same tasks using less power. Probably not a huge difference at this level, but it could be there

[proven jay]

if it can have a decent fast forwarding with gba emulation is already a big win

[coral ether]

Up to N64 reliably would be fine for me

[rotund ember]

I think Arc got pretty warm at that level — not painful, but noticeable. You wouldn’t feel that too much because your hands aren’t behind the chip, but could be an issue here

Anyways, really interested to see a teardown

[shadow star]

You’re right, the pictures from a few months ago do show it being about the same size. Color me interested again

[unreal sail]

I am eager to have this handheld

And 5 others, but that's another story

[coral ether]

I bet the hardest part and the reason for delays it’s the size

[lilac heart]

After the 11.11 sales you will see something 🙂

[fast lantern]

God I hope so 😂

[umbral pendant]

I'm curious what's the battery in that case.

[fast lantern]

I'm gonna guess 3000

[obsidian vessel]

Oh no this is real

https://tenor.com/view/just-when-i-thought-i-was-out-they-pull-me-back-in-michael-corleone-al-pacino-the-godfather-gif-19249100

[lilac heart]

2800 maybe? 😛

[unreal sail]

i am gonna be so mad if its less than 5000mah

[winged bear]

start being mad because there's no chance

[unreal sail]

i am so madge

[winged bear]

smaller shell than the 35xxsp, with sticks that also take space from the lower shell, you'd be lucky if you even get the same 3300 as the anbernic

[unreal sail]

if thats the case, i guess i will go with a rgb20pro

[obsidian vessel]

If battery life is a concern yeah the flip ain’t it

[fair gate]

Lol. This is me. Waiting for my anbernic sp to come through the door and weighing up whether my wife would be able to tell the difference if I had it plus miyoo flip

[obsidian vessel]

I’m getting a Miyoo flip regardless. But yeah I’m also waiting for my sp to arrive. Lol.

The Miyoo flip would be my ideal flip device I just got tired of waiting.

The dual sticks and rk3566 make it really good for portmaster

[tranquil citrus]

please be 1024x768 3.2 🙏 🙏 🙏

[brazen parcel]

the one in 🧱 ?

[obsidian vessel]

Isn’t 1024x768 4:3?

1080x720 is 3:2

[languid sundial]

3.2 inches

[obsidian vessel]

Oh 3.2 inches lmao

Sorry brain fart

[opaque breach]

surprised that they're actually updating the site

[rotund ember]

What's ICMERA?

[opaque breach]

http://www.lemyki.com/index.html#
Likely nothing other the indication that the subcontractor that built the webpage didn't get enough memo. Here's an unrelated company's site with this exact layout and mistake

[dusky bane]

A button doesn't seem as sturdy as the title sates 😉

[tranquil citrus]

maybe they're trying to show it being pressed down

[dusky bane]

But the whole device seems very sleek to me, with the bottom half made of one piece of plastic.

By comparison, the half cut of Anbernic's really looks cheap.

[scenic hull]

u want it to work or look cute?

[frozen tulip]

D.O.A. if the screen size is below 3.5

[brazen parcel]

tbh the 🧱's 1024x768 3,2" screen would be fire on it vs 480p 3,5"

[frozen tulip]

that is very true. If the resolution is super high like the 🧱 , that would redeem the 3.2"

[sand blade]

Well, it is the only 3.2” screen we know about for 4:3.

Granted, there’s also that one 720x480 3:2 screen I know about from the Gameboy Modding scene that’s around 3.2”, but the screen on the Flip doesn’t look to be 3:2.

[sand blade]

It’s actually a screen I’m kind of hopeful will show up eventually, since it would integer scale with GBA really nicely, as well as working perfectly with 4:3 games that are meant to render at 480p at a minimum, so none of the goofy stuff you’d see on the Powkiddy V10 or RG351 devices.

Ah wait, that’s supposed to be in reverse order.

[brazen parcel]

for 3:2 there is also the Ayaneo Micro/MagiX Touch One 's 960x640 3,5" screen

[sand blade]

Yeah, and with that one it’s got integer scaling for PSP as well as Vita, on top of the more obvious GBA (although the Touch One likely won’t be able to pull off Vita).

[brazen parcel]

vita is bit mess anyway ... the emu is too new

[dusky bane]

Both, of course !

[frail kestrel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/s/IVPxf1Uwh1

intersting

[dawn stream]

Props to the Miyoo CGI team

[opaque breach]

The tiiiiiime has come to an eeeeeennnnnnd!

[frail kestrel]

lol

[solemn aspen]

Damn just release this already

[loud quartz]

Maybe it does exist, but can it play Gamecube games with standalone Dolphin? The 35XX SP with MuOS can.

[fast lantern]

honestly i'm just happy i'm getting an actual upgrade to the Miyoo mini/mini+ aside from the A30 that is

[solemn aspen]

gamecube for 10fps yes

[loud quartz]

Depends on the game. Besides a bit of lag in the cutscenes fire emblem runs really well

[proven jay]

anyway, see the merchandise images makes ne think that is actually getting out at this point

bets on Christmas?

[sand blade]

Well…

…ArkOS did have that Standalone Dolphin emulator in its RGB30 build last time I played on it.

[loud quartz]

How did it run? Is it still being developed?

[sand blade]

Didn’t run well when I last tested it, but I was going for games that would run well on the T618, so I do wonder if it could work out for at least Fire Emblem.

Interestingly, Animal Crossing didn’t seem to run well, but it very specifically ran consistently poorly, it didn’t ever dip further in performance in the areas I was expecting to do worse, and didn’t do better in areas I would expect to be easier, so I’m wondering if it actually can potentially run well, and the Dolphin emulator in ArkOS just has a weirdly implemented frameskip or underclock that messes with Animal Crossing’s actual speed.

[loud quartz]

I tried it on MuOS, but it run way too slow, even on the opening screen. It's basically unplayable. Can't say if it's the processor that is too weak or the speedhacks that are messing with it.

For example, Pokemon Colosseum run decently, but the text tends to get corrupted, so often you can't read it. That's definitely the speedhacks fault.

[sand blade]

That’s what I’m wondering, because the second I try it on something that’s weak but Android (so you directly need to do settings yourself, there’s no pre-set speed hacks), Animal Crossing actually ran pretty fine with untouched default settings.

Hang on, I’ll try the beta for RGB30 GammaCore again, just to see if Android Dolphin and Animal Crossing on that thing will do any better than the ArkOS version.

[coral ether]

Oh yeah no chance. The Anbernic SP is like 3300mah? I’m gonna assume at most that’s the size. The battery would be close to edge to edge at that point. I

[unreal sail]

2600mah, i bet on this capacity

[coral ether]

I’m hoping for 2800

Honestly I’ll take what I can get at this point

For the size and additional performance I’ll be happy

Battery isn’t my favorite thing to lose out on but if I can get a minimum of 3 hours for the harder stuff il be okay

[fast lantern]

Hopefully Christmas cause I'm kinda short on money currently 😂.

I'm betting on 3000 battery but I'd be ok with 2800 too

[feral marsh]

Given the MM+ uses 3000mAh, I'd say that's what they'll use

Especially since they got some backlash from the a30's terrible battery life

[blazing maple]

Hopefully the sticks don’t interfere with closing the lid too much

[blazing prawn]

That would be a huge design flaw. Let's hope after like a year plus of development they wouldn't fuck up that bad.

[blazing maple]

If they did fuck up like they did with the a30, we will let them know

[radiant burrow]

That's an odd worry to have 🤣🤣🤣 it's not a powkiddy

If you couldn't close it because of the sticks no one would buy it...

[somber bone]

Except the stick-deleters, lol

[radiant burrow]

Weird people

[lament pecan]

if you're gonna get rid of the sticks on this, why not get the XXSP instead

[coarse tulip]

You should be banned for dropping random dates repeatedly. (Idk if I'm joking or not)

[tranquil citrus]

Guys Mr. Miyoo is my uncle and he told me it's releasing in december

[obsidian vessel]

retroid and anbernic already stole all the thunder with their new models

meanwhile you can get a miyoo mini+ for $24

[opaque breach]

Better development tool access with RK3566

Also some people hate Anbernic

[past walrus]

Can we start pushing for a RP 5 flip. 🤔 That's what I really want.

[dusty pecan]

RG Pocket 5 RGB Flip Plus Smart Pro

[tranquil citrus]

pocketable flip with 5.5 inch screen would be heaven

[lofty vapor]

The flip we really need

[lament idol]

If RP5 Flip comes then I’ll be done buying handhelds, that’s my end game

[dark oracle]

dimensions wise that rp5 screen might be the largest they can put on a clamshell and still have it pants pocketable. if they do make a successor, hope it will be thinner than the last one

[opaque breach]

Even better, Nokia N97 tilt slide form factor, with no sticks!

[lament idol]

I think it’d be better thinner too but I wouldn’t mind it being the around same thickness as long as it isn’t any thicker

[coarse tulip]

Red hot insider tip, so hot it might be too soon to share it actually lol. Miyoo said flip dev units are ready to send.

[somber bone]

Thanks for sharing this insider tip with your TEAM bro

[coarse tulip]

lol, it came from the team 👀

The call was from inside the house.

[gilded fog]

Jesus this still isn't released

[dark oracle]

we are the team 😎

[last orchid]

I wouldn't mind if it's the same body/display as the first flip with just a faster chip..

[subtle mango]

maybe slim down the triggers a smidge or two

[gilded wasp]

Everything I hear “man these handhelds come out too damn fast” everything I read on discord “this is still not out, it’s an outrage” 😂😂

[covert beacon]

Anbernic got too cocky for my taste, so I'd rather support the underdog Miyoo.

[gilded wasp]

And trimUI

[calm smelt]

If only the Brick had sticks....

[dusky bane]

I didn't buy the RG35XX-SP because I was afraid that it would be too thick to my taste. The GBA SP was OK and wished Anbernic's was just as slim...

It happens that for some reason, I didn't see this picture, and it is encouraging when it comes to device thickness.

It suggests that The Myioo Flip would not be more than 2.5% thicker overall, the bottom part beeing 10% thicker when compared to GBA SP OG.

[gilded wasp]

Na not powerful enough for sticks, great for the simple times of gaming IMO.

[dusky bane]

But I wonder : how are Miyoo Stock firmwares optimzed (especially when it comes to GPU) and how many games would take advantage of the right joystick in actual use ?

(crosspost, sorry)

[calm smelt]

It's A133p same as TSP, so it should be decent for N64, PSP and some DC, no?

[gilded wasp]

Decent but not perfect, I had a TSP and I never played those consoles on it. It’s got to a point if you want to play those pay $50+ more and play them perfect.

TSP would have been better without stick too IMO. Would have been like XL smart. Brilliant!

[sand blade]

Well, the sticks are nice for streaming at least (as well as it using a 5” 720p widescreen), and if MuOS does get on the Smart Pro soon, then we’re practically confirmed to get Drastic-Steward on the thing, which will make DS way more better than the stock Drastic Linux port.

[dark oracle]

in the end, the form didn't work out for me

that ds lite size was perfect except for the thickness

[round ridge]

You need to try portmaster games that utilize sticks on the TSP. They aren't really that pointless.

[obsidian vessel]

yeah, rgb10x portmaster was great having the stick. its okay for the games i play on the SP because muOS has a button to switch between dpad and stick

but if you wanted to play FPS you need dual sticks

[opaque breach]

Sticks sometimes make shoot em ups more feasible if the D-pad isn't ideal

[night raven]

Vaporware

[keen shard]

Wait, it does?

[somber bone]

tap of the power button

[keen shard]

Ahh…

[merry gyro]

rg35xx-sp or mini flip 🤔

[gilded wasp]

That’s easy, SP because you can get it.

[merry gyro]

Do you think the sticks on the mini flip are worth waiting for though?

[gilded wasp]

No point having the sticks IMO.

[merry gyro]

That's fair you're really not playing stick heavy games on a device like that anyway.

[fast lantern]

Honestly if the buttons don't rattle I'd wait for the flip

[last orchid]

Interesting, what was the main issue for you? Too big? Too heave? Too uncomfortable?

[dark oracle]

thickness, especially around the triggers

sadly I didn't find it portable enough for that reason

and yeah it was also heavier than I expected lol but not enough to be a dealbreaker by itself

[last orchid]

hmm, that's surprising, I'd thiught it is around 2dsxl, and still more pocketable than rp4, but maybe seeing/trying with my own hands would be different. I am still waging even likes GPD Win Mini, which is obviously a completely different category, but I think ultimate machine for anything emu plus some couple years old 3d games like Fallout/TES.. So maybe the best is to wait couple of years anyways 😂 But I liked RPF, not the performance though.. If they make one with one of these newer Snapdragons, I would likely not keep my wallet under control though 😅

[opaque breach]

Someone posted THESE in a QQ chatroom

[hollow lagoon]

I want this color

[opaque breach]

It's like, what, 1 year and 7 months since first reveal?

[gilded wasp]

Can’t wait, but it’s ready when it’s ready

I really hope this has the trademark miyoo button feel, just with that it will be better the the SP.

[proven adder]

looks like vita/trimui smart pro sticks - no L3 or R3

[gilded wasp]

Sticks don’t really matter, it’s the non clicky buttons that most people want.

[opaque breach]

Not gonna happen I guess - there are reports that the buttons are dome switches

[gilded wasp]

Dang, it was the hope that was keeping this device alive

[obsidian vessel]

Based on the sp size can we determine the screen size?

[opaque breach]

It's in the code name

Miyoo 355

Likely it's 3.5 inches

[obsidian vessel]

Ooo

So probably the same screen they’ve always used… 640x480?

[opaque breach]

Compare the codename to this
#1295506599703740427 message

[obsidian vessel]

That’s fine I guess. I want the sticks lol

[fast lantern]

I think it's gonna be 3.2 since it's seems to be quite similar to the original sp screen in size

[obsidian vessel]

Someone said it’s 3.5

Looking into the sp, the original sp has a 3” panel but 3.2” with the bezel !!

So it could be a 3.2” screen.

[languid sundial]

Fingers crossed for Trimui Brick screen

[obsidian vessel]

Altho in that render it looks even bigger than a bezel-less sp

[languid sundial]

they changed a lot of things at one point it was quite bigger

[obsidian vessel]

Nah it’s 3.5”

Look at this

[languid sundial]

not so sure:

here it looks more or less the same size as og SP

[fast lantern]

This is what I'm suspecting too

[languid sundial]

I hope the can use Trimui help on how to make good clicky buttons as well

apparently they have similar relationship to Ayn and Retroid

both are owned by the same company

[limpid temple]

That definitely looks like a 3.2 inch screen. Additionally the patent pictures of the Miyoo 321 support that they are planning with that screen size.

[languid sundial]

oh so they even changed the internal name now to Miyoo 321? it definetly means that its 3.2

[obsidian vessel]

I hope it’s a 3.2” 1024x768 screen

[serene raft]

1416/1992

Ooo overclock

[opaque breach]

I hopt it's 4 inch 960x720

[frigid arrow]

The 321 is a different device.

[rotund ember]

Just had a thought that sweeping in last minute to undercut Flip again would be a very Anbernic thing to do

Also wasn't 35xx+ (first H700 device) a December release last year?

[frigid arrow]

I mean, if Anbernic have some t618's left over, and fancy a go at a 4:3 clamshell, I am sure people wouldn't be against the idea....

[rotund ember]

Yeah, not even sure what they can pick on the Linux side right now

It's either back to RK3566 or something like A523 (or maybe ask Allwinner to sell a quad-core version of that chip somehow, dunno)

[frigid arrow]

If they redo h700's with rk3566's, it'll be pretty unexciting to be honest.

But hey, depends on the pricing I guess.

I wouldn't buy them, but some would.

[rotund ember]

Well, it's gonna be a quad-core A55 chip either way, what can you do

None of these companies make an A510/A520-only chip yet

And anything with A7x cores will likely be too hot

And, well, I think A510 is supposed to be ~30% faster than A55, it's not a generational leap

Huh, there's a quad-core A55 Allwinner, GPU unclear though https://linux-sunxi.org/T536

And of course in this family T527 is 8xA55, T536 is 4xA55, gotta love the moon logic

[proven jay]

if they use an high res screen+rk3566 this thing will be a hot potato to hold 🔥

[frigid arrow]

Good. It's cold in the UK right now 💀

[jaunty storm]

this still exists?

[sand blade]

It’s the only 3.2” screen we know about.

[opaque breach]

Look at the code name!

There's the Miyoo 281 = Mini

The Miyoo 354 = Mini Plus

The Miyoo 282 = A30

And now the Flip is the 355

There's a new model being rendered called the 321

[winged bear]

yep, it's been 355 since the start, so unless they remade it from scratch it will be 3,5 inch

[lean ridge]

This is a strange one it's both ARM and RISC-V, basically 2 different ISA's

I mean what's the point of having RISC-V at this stage, most of the current popular emulators are written with x86 and ARM in mind

[proven jay]

for sure they remade the prototype model, there is no stars anymore

[winged bear]

of course, but going from 3,5 to 3,2 inch screen would mean remaking the whole thing

[proven jay]

it is smaller

[winged bear]

than what?

[proven jay]

from the original
give a sec, maybe I'm wrong

i did remember some videos wrong

anyway

this is the 3.5 from the mm+ by the side of a gbasp

this is the flip model

the screen seems quite smaller, maybe is an impression? idk

meanwhile retrobreeze on YouTube did a 3d print from the first prototype, using the usb c for scale all the drawing

[winged bear]

smaller than the sp?

have you seen how big the bezels are in the first pic? the flip screen is obviously bigger

[proven jay]

smaller than the miyoo plus screen

that is a 3.5

[winged bear]

they look the same to me

[proven jay]

ok, maybe is my impression

[winged bear]

the mm+ screen (without bezels) is the same height as the sp screen with bezels

which is also roughly the same as on the flip, which has the bezels hidden under the top case

it just looks smaller in the direct comparison because the bezels of the gba sp are really obscured, but the screen is bigger

[rotund ember]

I think all recent Allwinner chips have some RISC-V stuff in them

Maybe that's like a requirement for Chinese chip makers, to drive their architecture as a royalty-free alternative to ARM

[coral ether]

Well I’m def buying one

No matter when it comes out

Being the same size as the SP makes it a buy

Low key I just want a GBA SP emulation handheld that doubles as an phone

Just give me basic phone apps and decent emulation power in a good size and I’m in

[round ridge]

You would think after such a long time they would finalized hardware spec and let their followers know.

[obsidian vessel]

@winged bear in my super unscientific method, the side-by-side mini+ vs. SP, the Miyoo measured 488x372 pixels and the SP with bezels measured 454x334 pixels.

so 3.5 is definitely larger than the GBA SP bezel size. im pretty sure its 3.2"

the GBA SP screen area, i mean

holdup

is that even a mini+?

i think its a mini?

mini plus has no side bezels and an angled front above the menu button

[languid sundial]

its plus 100% og mini is much smaller

Two GOATs 😉

but yeah sp screen even with bezels is much smaller than 3.5

[languid sundial]

still hoping its Trimui Brick 3.2" screen, it would be amazing on Flip, jusrt imagine if @silent tusk would port Gamma Core to Flip, it will be so awesome

[obsidian vessel]

yeah its definitely taller and wider

[obsidian vessel]

but kinda looks like what the flip does

i think its the 3.5" screen

[languid sundial]

I know its th emost likely scenario, but I still hope its 3.2"

[languid sundial]

hmm actually looking at this image it looks it will be smaller indeed, you pasted the cropped image on quite huge portion of plastic around the bezel

[winged bear]

yes, but the point is that a 3,5 inch screen on a gba sp chassis (basically what the flip seems to be) looks like the pic on the left

[obsidian vessel]

yeah if you look at the yellow flip

it looks like a 3.5" pasted on the SP

[languid sundial]

hard to say, because the angle could be different, but looks smaller to me

(I tried to match the size of both GBA SPs as much as possible)

[obsidian vessel]

hrmmmm

well i guess we will see 😛

[proven jay]

We can always ask to miyoo guy on ali

[obsidian vessel]

or the spruce guys

but the code name being 355 i think is telling

[coarse tulip]

Honestly I'm buggin' for more solid info. They are being kind of indirect. They asked for Sun's info to send units and then haven't really expanded on it. We don't know if they are on the way, one week out, one month out or what. I don't think they'd be asking for addresses to ship them a month later. And they confirmed directly to him the dev units were ready to ship.

[obsidian vessel]

the A30 was miyoo 282

the Mini plus was 354

[coarse tulip]

Trust me, I'm bugging Sun to get more info lol. We have each have contacts with different companies and Miyoo is one of his. So I'm like "please get me some deets"

Hopefully it's soon though.

[obsidian vessel]

im not holding my breath, public release maybe 2025 sometime lol

in the mean time ill enjoy my SP

i still want a flip tho

[coarse tulip]

Idk what their track record is for dev units > to release window. Like some of our team had Bricks like 6 weeks before it launched. Idk if the flip will have a similiar window. MagicX is talking about a two week window from dev units to release. But I have to assume it's closing in on it. As soon as someone who's not a guy in a weird Chinese chat group with one I think it's just a countdown from there instead of this bs lol

[obsidian vessel]

yeah and once ya'll have units we'll know the exact specs

[coarse tulip]

Nah, once we have flips that's when our scam is complete and we delete spruce and all our socials.

[obsidian vessel]

🤣

[silent tusk]

rk3566? Why not, ima do it anyway lol