#Miyoo Flip
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Which year? 😄
What are Onion devs actually up to these days?
It feels like development kinda slowed down — the last release was in February, I think
at least some of them were informally toying with the A30
but it's unclear yet whether they want to commit to that
How long?
Something tells me if they do actually release it. The henge is gonna be bad 💀
After the A30 disaster I've 0 faith in Miyoo!
Maybe that's why it keeps being delayed they know it's borked
Don't have faith in anything that's not the community nor something with purposeful cultural relevance
I'm still waiting patiently. No stick, so didn't bite on the SP. I'm not going to be a first adopter, would prefer to wait for reviews and a CFW option. Thankfully I have a few other devices to keep me busy.
time to sell the 35xx SP asap i guess
I'd hold off on selling the SP because the Miyoo might be shit
This binary "full faith" or "no faith" business is what results in people dismissing powkiddy to the point of missing the most important release of 2023 
Even the Miyoo flip could do better, heck, if it does a better job with the battery and doesn't go with clicky buttons it can already earn favor from many of the current SP fans.-
It's really hard to predict how it will go, it's a company that's as capable of making the Miyoo Mini as the A30 , so it's to be seen.
I feel I'm in hyper caution mode
Miyoo had the A30 cooking for like 3 years and it came out raw
not to mention, A30 is dead silence for a long while..
and when people chasing for Flip , they just say "you gonna wait so we bringing you A30"
they threw out the A30 like "Here's something so leave us alone for a while"
yeah it's like in the drawer all along
I do pray that Miyoo adapts well to a new chipset with the 3566
I have no faith in Miyoo, but that doesn’t mean I don’t think they can still put out a good product if things go right. I just need people to get the device in hand and prove out the results before I get excited.
I'm more hoping for that other clamshell that used sliders to come back from canceled
Trust but verify has gone wrong enough a large enough number of times that I don’t trust anymore, only verify.
What one was that?
Most important release?
I'm gonna guess they're referring to the RGB30
the SZDizer D008
Odin 2 was 2023 right?
or the DooB
Oh, yeah, that thing looks pretty slick.
Hinge also already looked fragile in these renders somehow though, maybe got canned for good reason lol
they said the design was getting "too thick"
perhaps this is the start for Dual Screen handheld
Now it's the end of July, but before it was beginning of July 😛
I don't think it's coming out yall lol
It’ll come out, we just have to stop wanting it first
Honestly just wish these companies would stop using joycon sticks
I'd rather have 3ds style circle pads at that point
I feel the exact opposite tbh. So glad we have real tilt sticks now. Doubly so on a clamshell like this where they can never get caught on anything in storage.
And get joycon drift?
Not with hall modules. Wish manufacturers would stop cheaping out on those, no one’s gonna decide these things were one dollar too expensive to buy.
Potentiometer wear and tear is a problem on cheap sliders too, they usually just break in some other way before it becomes an issue
I suspect we won't see hall effect sticks on cheap handhelds often for a while
I don't think they WANT each handheld to be perfect and last forever
They want people to buy every model they release
At least looking at anbernic and miyoo
If the dimension justify the choise i would be ok with a 3ds nub stick tbh, with a lenovo nub works pretty nicely
I honestly hate how cheap and almost rubbery the joycon sticks feel like
Ignoring the drift stuff
I’m definitely not holding them up as some pinnacle of quality we should aspire to or something, but I find them a lot more viable for a wide spread of games than sliders.
Tried playing a racing game on my N3DS a couple days ago and I had to completely change my hand position to get leverage in the right axis for moving left and right a lot.
And trying to do quick flicks for Smash 3DS genuinely broke my o3DS XL’s stick back in the day.
We should have more slider options than the current none, but they’re not my most preferred solution.
sticks side, I think another good middle ground are the ps vita one, but the vita design wise is pretty difficult to surpass
Me either! Miyoo P60 enters the chat 😛
I don't like the nub stick. I'd rather have two equal-sized sticks. Twin circle pads with clicks could be good. Just no rubber dome for me please
They ARE rubbery.
i didn't like it neither, but after i swap it with the lenovo one I'm starting to try more games that use it and the difference it's day night
obviusly is not for modern game, but the top use of the analog that you can have in a handled like the miyoo is ape escape
Retroid uses sliders right
Retroid got their own laundry list of problems also
Retroid Flip moment
I heard GPD's sticks in clamshell cases aren't too shabby either
GPDs are super pricy tho. And I think windows handhelds or even mini laptops are objectively horrible
But yeah they've had the clamshell down for ages
A handheld either needs android or preferably linux for me to even consider it
I really wish there would be a single-card dualboot solution
Not RG353's dualboot involving an emmc
aren't those basically the only two options for a handheld?
Nah there's windows handhelds
GDP even makes tiny ones
can't you just put linux on them instead?
Depends on driver support honestly
Desktop linux is different from these device-specific linux distros to say the least. Again, the latter's what a sizable part of the fandom really wants
batocera!
Whoa, you SELL?! What happened to everyone hoarding their handhelds /s
I doubt their target market would be phased by that. I think most people here buy the new designs based solely on the cool factor of the new design and not because they played their old device so much that they wore it down.
I hate them. Literally my only complaint with the Win Mini. Placement is perfect, but small recessed sticks have almost no range of motion and causes fatigue. I think 3DS sliders might have been better, idk
Someone just needs to figure out how to source retroid’s sliders
ask magicx?
It's gonna be as hot as pan cakes
That would be a first for RK3566, but looking at A30, certainly a possibility
Given the summer the UK is having, a hand warmer may well not be an awful feature.
Imagine the AliExpress copy on this feature
"Lets you feel alive in your hands"
Not incorrect 💀
😂😂 "heat as a feature" is hilarious
the eternal innovators powkiddy did that already
Amazing
Tbh isn’t that par for the course with handwarmers? Generally they’re way too hot and then you put something between them and your hands to turn the burn into a nice radiating warmth
At least that’s what I’ve heard people describe, there are only a couple mountain tops in my state that ever get cold enough to worry about it.
All winter means at sea level here is you get to turn off the AC, never used a real handwarmer in my life.
True hard mode 🤣
Counter argument. The ergo will suck if you need to use a hand warmer and a handheld. Combining the two will be comfy.

Any handheld is a handwarmer if you try to play games that are above its pay grade
3326 devices are great as little handwarmers
#1249641323020156989 should have a hand warmer feature, but all it’s doing is switching from gpsp to mGBA
Until they publicly cancel it? Yeah maybe.
We need a "handcooler", i mean its really hot these days.
Or powkiddy fridge
, with handheld holders, that can be taken off, and with multiple charger, and a flashlight, and a clock, and a bluetooth earbuds, with the charger built-in the fridge; of course, these are not inside the fridge.
Or "powkiddy watercooled android game box".
Some funny ideas.
But more importantly, when waterproof handheld?
Well there's a few of these you know https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005082231646.html
The Chinese budget handheld industry is a complete joke lmfao
i love it
portable ac
it's an air conditioner and a mini arcade
would buy
as long as the arcade got decent firmware and could run 90s FBNEO stuff well
Honestly with how hot it is due to the heatwave on the east coast, this doesn't look that stupid lol
No, it definitely looks stupid lol
We were so busy fighting about D-pad on top, we never thought to ask where the screen should go in relation to the personal fan.
It's obvious that the screen should be at bottom and gamepad should be on top
Ah yes, the Mega Man Battle Network “we need to make a new PET toy every year and we’re running out of ways to make it look different” layout
someone who reviewed this thing said it gets hot in your hands
how ironic lol
@willow sandal do you by any chance know anything we do not?
anything about the flip or... even the "p60"?
im still holding out hope that the we will see the p60 with another soc but the same housing
etc
@dusty pecan I haven't worked with miyoo for a long time but the p60 was, is, and should be canceled. It's not super worth doing a g99 handheld unless you're really strapped for cash. You'll be outsold by everything else about to drop
i was hoping we would one day see it but with a d1100 or d1200
Even the a30 is an old device. I was one of the first to share the photos like three years ago 😂
i wonder whats going wrong with miyoo
they had a massive success, why are they floundering now
pre-mini??
that would explain a lot
Yes before mini plus but after the mini. It was just the miyoo mini horizontal
They sent me a bunch of shots without faceplates
And then much later they told me about the plus and they dumped me after.
But I wasn't the leak
sad thought that the mini might be their "one hit wonder"
Funny how people remember it that way
ridiculous behavior 🙄
i know, early on it was constantly in stock, custom firmware really saved the day
They sent me the and triforce the sdk which wasn't much
Jim grey and onion saved the device
true
And really a lot of eggs, e1000 and maybe neon
Weird they just had it hanging around though.
They could have charged double or triple the current price if they released it three years ago.
i honestly dont understand miyoo at all
what really are they
the pocketgo era was strange, and the powkiddy and trimui connection is weirder
i guess the bittboy/pocketgo era was more "stable" for them since they had that company handling international distribution and probably putting up some big minimum orders
since the mini they've pretty much been doing everything themselves
although i guess it wasn't that stable since iirc even the pocketgo v2 and s30 went out of stock pretty quick
It's just that a lot of the engineers and people between companies are friends. Miyoo and Powkiddy had friends at Trimui, anbernic has close friends between other companies. Bittboy company (og miyoo) has people who went to work at Powkiddy, data frog, and Lenovo I think
Miyoo now isn't necessarily bittboy from before but they have a number of same staff
I haven't heard from Luana in years.
Covid hit a lot of these companies hard
Retroid and Ayn are similar in that regard. Or so they claim 
@subtle mango have you admited this is dead yet?
It's on life support
At this point I'm starting to think miyoo was just giving us info to build hype but then anbernic stole the thunder
Doubt they gave up on this but the critical backlash of the A30 may have made Miyoo go back to the drawing board with this one
or at least made them realize they have to make sure its in great shape before launch
I still have no idea how they expect to make something smaller than the 35xxSP, with sticks and a 3566, without a tiny battery and/or overheating.
Kalim, take my advice
buy the ayaneo DS
and everything is sorted
Homie I don't have that kinda money
stop buying all the clamshells, sell some of your unused clamshells, and you should have enough for.......20% of the DS 
stupid ayaneo and their stupid overpriced prices
how much is the DS
The ayaneo ds? Like $800 for the base model
yea you can afford that
if you sell a kidney
worthy sacrifce for DS
Maybe if they make a budget model but knowing Aya that isn't happening unless they take a huge nosedive in popularity
lol the budget model is already the 3ds at this point
A hacked 3DS with a DS flashcart and the world is your oyster
if you consider that the 3ds use natively gba and ds already most of the emulation problem that see from the other handled is already taken care of
my only problem with the 3ds is the snes emulation that i find better on something like the miyoo mini
And PS1 is better
And GBA is better at least in terms of display resolution and scaling options
I have a hacked 3DS and in what it does best it's amazing but it's still not an optimal emulation machine. It all comes down to the amount of pixels you have to work with when using emulation.
Given that the 'community' is again trying to save an underpowered miyoo device, I am not sure if they will learn anything
"we really got away with using a 10 year old chip and a 12 year old linux kernel? Guess we can save money and downgrade from the flip from the 3566 to something cheaper"
they're gonna chuck in a 3326 and act like it's all good
Honestly it would be functionally identical to me
I’m not playing n64 or dreamcast on this either way
Miyoo hasn't used 3326 right
nope
they've only used whatever is in the MM/+/A30
Miyoo is lacking behind Anbernic heavily now due to the H700 being in devices at the same or better price point
Okay, at this point when I hear these estimates, I'm not sure Miyoo is aware they actually need to make Flip to release it
Like they're not convinced it may just happen out of nowhere
Maybe we've got to the point they expect the community to make the hardware as well as the software.
We did freaking 3D print the thing already, so maybe they're like "maybe in July they'll just make the whole thing, but we do need to figure out how they'll pay us"
Imagine they're actually angry at the community that it's July already, and the Flip is still not made
True.
Really, it's all our fault for not working hard enough for them.
We really could have made this thing already and just slap our own Miyoo logo on it and suck dry Miyoo's legal budget
After all, we're not dealing with Nintendo
We're dealing with a workshop at best
It's expected to release in December... no wait, February... Sorry, actually it's definitely coming out at the end of March 💯 ......Ok that last date was a bit hopeful on our end but we've triple checked and it's definitely, totally 100% coming out in early June we swear to god................Ok but for real this time it's actually releasing by the end of July.
At this point it's no-one is even making the "they didn't say July this year" joke any more 
i mean, the problem is they keep asking some poor aliexpress customer service rep
what do they know
stop bothering customer service about it
Well, Miyoo's customer support's track record is literally 50/50 at this point
50/50 with a pinch of doubt
50/50 in the sense of it either gets released or it doesn't? 🤔
Yes
That's why I dodge the dice roll entirely and just accept it'll be out when it's out lol
AliEx rep is gonna be as in the dark as we are
if not more in the dark because they might be receiving more random info that isn't helpful
I mean, if the A30 really was just sitting around in a warehouse for years, it sort of suggests Miyoo themselves don't really have a grip on when stuff is landing 😉
The A30 was on the back burner for so damn long that it rotted
Really wish the a30 would've stuck to the MM chip
Does the chip in it run those extra consoles well enough to be enough of a trade-off to forgo Onion
it has no major performance improvement from what I've looked into
So there was little point in the new chip then lol
Extremely little and it was completely shot down by anbernic popping in the H700 into the 28XX
Dude it's crazy how strong the 28xx is all things considered
Playing N64 on this weird little candy bar handheld
Miyoo’s in a pretty bad spot. I hope they get out of it (cuz I like their buttons better)
I bought a grip for the 28xx off Etsy that makes it much more comfortable to hold and game on
which one?
Easily my favorite non-Sega dpad
Andy is linked to Retroid, Nexadas and Ayn.
You can find his email on contact for Nexadas webpage which used to be the shop selling RP1, RP2.
Taki said Ayn and Retroid are run seperate but by brothers in law, if that is reality who knows.
It’s obvious AYN is just the specialty premium Retroid arm.
Same way Miyoo is most probably connected to BittBoy.
is flip even relevant, given 35XXSP exists?
or rather, does anyone believe this one is going to be better than 35XX SP
Just people who like sticks with minimal travel
It can be different.
Might make for a better "present" device. For someone who will only have this one device, you want sticks, as it'll make N64/Dreamcast much better.
It'll have a bit more power for those systems as well.
While I think the 35XX SP stiff buttons are still pretty serviceable, if this has lighter click dome switches, I’ll probably prefer it personally almost by default. Until it breaks or disintegrates or Back to the Future fades out of existence in my hands. It is Miyoo at the end of the day.
The SP is fatiguing imo due to the buttons stiffness. I can't game too long with it.
Hopefully Miyoo will release this month
Are the SP buttons that stiff?
Anbernic buttons are usually awesome I'm surprised they would drop the ball on that
Imo they are perfect
Perfect amount of clickiness and stiffness
they're a tiny bit harder to press than the usual anbernic membrane buttons
they're not bad
I've played with some exhausting buttons before so I was wondering
I like how they feel
yeah I also think they feel fine. the noise they make is a bigger deal to me
They’re fine, I just prefer light clicks, and these are about as heavy as clicky gets before it becomes a problem.
they do click but it's not a super loud click
way quieter than like mouse buttons or anything
might be a problem in bed but otherwise no
nobody's gonna complain on an airplane or bus
yeah wife typically heads to bed before I do so quiet buttons are a must
Arc's been great for that
the buttons on this are louder than on any other handheld I had but I also had like 5 handhelds lol
no problem in most public places like you said but I'm not playing on this in the library
everyone else is blasting music or tiktok audios with no headphones in public what's the harm in some button clicks
on that note I will never forgive phone manufacturers for removing headphone jacks
thankfully my library ain't like that lol
when I worked at target moms would have their ipad babies watching the most insane stuff I've evr heard just full blast zero shame
I would agree it’s a little louder than my other handhelds, but still much quieter than basically all of my gamepads.
Except the m30 that thing is infallible
My GF consistently complains when I try to play the Arc at night, and I have to admit, it is slightly audible
we sleep with fans on our nightstands so there's always some noise going on
Then again, I suppose even if someone was just typing on a laptop with the same intensity next to me while I'm sleeping, I'd definitely notice
My wife grabbed my SP the first night and turned it off lol. Banned from bed after that lol.
I’m so happy my wife and toddlers are heavy sleepers lol. I can genuinely game on anything and have the tv on, 55 in blasting light into our bed and no issues
I guess thats a perk of being single, I can game on whatever I want and do it whenever I want...because no one is around to tell me not too.
Tired: Step on me
Wired: Confiscate my game boy
The wait for this is driving these poor sods into madness
I'm just curious what the hell Miyoo is doing. The dark horse with two great (if similar) products, and only the A30 since then. Seems like Anbernic has released a device a month this year... is Miyoo really that much smaller/poorly funded? Maybe the OG Mini being out of stock for so long is a sign of more than screen availability?
its not really fair to hold any company to anbernic's crackhead release schedule
I don’t think you need a crackhead release schedule to make one device that actually meets current standards on chipset age etc
I keep forgetting that this exists
except it doesn't, that's why it's in rumor mill
If only it did exist
As long as they don't "hold my beer" and make something worse than the A30....
I mean… this one could quite possibly literally fall apart in your hands, so… wouldn’t hold your breath tbh.
Hey only one busted button out of like 15 is pretty good QC! 
Some of my buttons felt defective and looked that way on the gamepad test until I used them a bit, then they calmed down. Not sure what defective means on yours. It sticks or doesn't respond? haha
When pressing the dpad up it doesnt register tge input unless I use a little more force
Ah, mine would stick, like it wouldn't come back, but it relaxed and now works perfect
It feels like its not reaching the end and making contact
I will open it up this weekend to see if its dirty or will add some tape or something so it connects better
last time miyoo handhelds' estimated release date was the end of july the device got cancelled lol
I am sure if they were actually going to ship by the end of July we would have heard more by now.
Time to start the new rumour.
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If we don't hear anything by August I'm going to unfollow this channel, and consider it canceled and give up on it ever coming out
I have considered it cancelled for months, but sometimes this channel is entertaining
Also at 8300 messages this is the biggest channel in rumor mill
Second biggest one is for SP at 5559, but real handhelds are kinda boring
Also it was teased for what, 7,8 months? Anbernic is so unimaginative
the children yearn for the mines clamshells
I just want some competition to exist in clamshells
szdiier cancelled theirs. "game console" cancelled theirs. the V90 seems to have happened by accident because powkiddy sure as shit can't make another one happen
miyoo is the last hope
the 35xxSP is good though
it is good but battery-over-cpu designs have made me uneasy ever since i saw those pictures of an exploded rgb10
no chance it's going to be any better on miyoo
The miyoo is using a chip that will probably run hotter in a smaller shell
The SP battery doesn’t get dangerously warm at any point
yeah if the miyoo is the same or worse then i won't buy it either lol
still i'd like to see the (modern) clamshell market increase from 1
There is no problem with battery temps on the SP
Plus, if the RG35xx SP starts having exploding hinges over the next few months....we're back to the V90 being the most powerful good clamshell.
didn't v90 have failed hinges also?
kinda why i just never got that into hinged game devices
i mean, doors fail too
any hinge can break
all that matters is whether its a widespread thing that happens commonly even if you don't abuse it like the rp flip or not
Retroid: Hey guess what everyone! We fixed the hinge on the Flip! The Flip is GREAT now! Also we're not making any more Flips! 
I think the v90 is to light to put much pressure on the hinges.
I would also welcome a Pandora successor (not the Pyra) with all the devotion of a zealot.
which chip
i'd like a cyberdeck too
raspberry pi maybe?
with gpio slot
and an nvme m2 slot
A Zen 5 chip 
really surprising there is no v90 v2 or something. Just a slightly better cpu so that it can play up to PS1, and maybe sligthly better display, and that's it, that would already be a great thing to see imo... To be honest Anbernics SP somehow is not that attractive to me. Was looking fwd to myioo flip...
Aye. Just an rk3326 would be a massive deal to get through GBA and playstation.
What's the upside with going with a weaker chip though?
I mean, H700 could be slightly weaker than RK3566, but not by a lot
But it does seem to be stronger than RK3326 while having the same GPU
Not to mention that compared to V90 it has built-in wireless and what, triple the battery capacity?
So there's already a cheap option, nice
Checking to see any new news and nothing. Great job Bitboy Miyoo keep up good work.
except when it explodes
35xx SP is 70 USD??
holy hell it is
Those h700 devices have quite the price range 
Hopefully it will come down to the RG35xx h price in a few months.
Not sure I would trust them with a hinge.
cant be worse than modern hp hinges
after 2 years + few weeks after warranty period ended, the hinge broke
I mean, Game Console are the company that thought making screws dig into the battery was a good idea.
I don't have a lot of faith in their design team.
Game console as in that $10 thing you see everywhere?
They are normally $25-$35 I think.
Friends don’t let friends buy a game console company device
I’ve never really understood the point, other than the one person who was buying dozens to give away for Halloween where the few extra bucks meant more kids got one.
Outside of that exceptionally specific case, radically better products start within $5 of everything they make and go on sale further from there.
People going to make bad decisions including buying Chinese E-Waste junk, you can't save them from themselves
Yeah, I look at them as gift devices, or nice first device recommendations for people unsure whether they will use it.
Plus some love to tinker.
Well any Hopium?
i hope those aren't the colours. they are so ugly
It’s just a CAD modeling thing to highlight where one part ends and the next begins
It will almost certainly be relatively normal, uniform colors of plastic (if it ever comes out)
ohhh okay that's good then lol
Gift devices begin with Miyoo Mini or 35xxh, anything less is landfill material. Don't be the person giving out gifts, where the recipient has to pretend that they're happy
that's the first thing I've read from you that i fully agree with
game console as in that rg353v knockoff with rk3326
imo theres a huge gap between these two, miyoo mini is far weaker than 35xx+, with not much of a difference in build quality and software experience
Trust me, most people have no idea these things exist, and are just amazed at something that can play a lot of games.
The thought of having an opinion on buttons or a d-pad won't have occurred to them.
Give a kid that has nothing a NES clone, and they'll think it's the best thing ever.
I can't remember who said it, but a while back I am sure somebody mentioned the reason why there had never been a v90 v2 was due to powkiddy losing the design docs for the shell
Huh, weird
I mean, they're still selling it, so they should be still making V90. How can they do that without any docs at all?
That did seem a little off, but perhaps the stuff they have isn't sufficient to be modified as they might need to do so with a v2
if that the case prolly they have the original mold
me and tens of thousands of other children in Eastern Europe in 1990s
Dude, I gave a Datafrog to someone who had young grandkids come over a lot. And I put chess and risk and stuff on it for them, and games for young kids on it as well. Easy wireless controllers, TV out.....she said it was life changing.
Unlimited games for the kids, and fun for her as well.
People here have just normalised how awesome these things are.
iirc jdewitz said they don't have the moulds for the v90 anymore. idk if that means they just have a huge backstock of shells or what
Possible end of the V90 production?
Dark times.
That thing is the absolute knock around budget king of the scene.
after 4 years of nonstop production
wonder how many thousands of units did they manage to sell
It just blows my mind that work on CFW is STILL happening 
when you consider the generation of consoles these play, the gap isn't huge. and the software on miyoo is far better by default bc it comes with onion.
hard disagree with this. kids don't live in a vacuum. even if they don't have any game consoles they have eyes they can see the state of games, they can play their friends games.
The kids that play the one I gave are thrilled with it. Unlimited sonic and Mario 
Bear in mind, they are 4 and 6 years old. They are just happy to play stuff.
sonic wasn't on the NES
NES clone is more of a generic term for the cheap Datafrog/powerbank with games style devices on AliExpress here.
I don't literally mean a clone of the NES hardware.
Although, a lot of the games they play on it are from the NES. Bubble bobble is a favourite. So I guess that's not an awful plan. Would be a random gift though.
We simply can't believe anybody.
This gaming world is fucked by all forces up and down left and right
Companies that can make good products strangle us with loyalty agreements
Companies that can't hunt down leftover desires and stuff them with expired and moldy bread
There are times I want to help people use their cheap things better because they can't buy competently engineered stuff
But then there are times I want to stab a soldering iron through my heart
R U OK?
I see. Though the black one came last year, so they still must have had them, as it doesn't look like painted red or yellow..
I think I figured what I like about it so much - it's so lightweight, that it is actually quite comfy for me. I don't like when they go close to or over 200g.. And I don't see any other 3" (or bigger) even close to 112g..
Kinda hoped the Miyoo would do it though, as MM and A30 are quite lightweight..
But I get it. V90 can be light, it has small battery, because F1C100S is like < 1W or so
what the miyoo mini flip wait does to a person 😔
the odin 1 wait was kinda like this
Really? Coz I got my odin1 in like 4 months from when I first bought kekw
I have total opposite from most people with Odin 1 it seems
yeah the wait during the IGG campaign was bad but I'm talking about well before that lol. back when it was just known as 199
imagine if a year into the odin 1 wait anbernic made a very popular competiting product in the same weight class that sold like hotcakes
you know, the moment steam deck was announced quite a few peeps, myself included kinda lost interest in ayn's shenanigans and the odin 1
maybe it's not a fair comparison considering it's an entirely different class of device but it was interesting seeing how many peeps jumped ship after that, at least initially
it was a big enough deal for peeps to make memes about it lol
miyoo really flipped you off for this one 
Only the mods in ayn discord still cared about Odin one. I gave AYN a second chance with the Loki and that was shit show also. Glad they are doing somewhat better now. The first two were painful
my odin 1 was pretty nice to have, but the terrible sticks really let it down for me (still better than anbernic's though)
a lot of peeps circled back when it became apparent that odin 1 was actually releasing, but they've made a lot mistakes and broke past a lot of deadlines they set. and it definitely seemed like they didn't learn anything from that with the loki campaign, I think that turned out even worse lol. ayn has done well to fix their reputation and earn back the community's trust with the odin 2
The shipping predictions for the odin 2 ranged from about March to beyond July and then when it wasn't a shitshow by ayn for a change you had all these weirdos coming out and gloating that the people who had used established historical data to mildly mock were wrong. Surely praising ayn for getting it right would have made sense than gloating about something you had nothing to do with
have they been released yet?
why do they keep announcing these handhelds so insanely early when time and time again they fail to deliver?
It loses all impact and potential customers, instead of being excited, are just weary and annoyed
yes, but thats the same thing they said about the miyoo p60!!
... 😓😭
The big shocker is that there's a new pic of this unit at all
Got thicker since we last saw it, didn't it?
Damn that stick placement
Grip required
or a really wide grip stance
Haven't been keeping up om the news, what is the chipset that this will have and will this be a thick boy like the RG35XXSP making it so a non flip device is actually more pocketable. The DSi and N3DS is around the same thickness as a RG35XXH yet the SP is way thicker
One thing we know is that it will likely have an EmulationStation launcher - there's a demo of that but I forgot when it made it here
https://fxtwitter.com/miyoomini/status/1812414001411715481
Actual official confirmation much?
On July 15 at 4pm Beijing time, the Miyoo mini v4 will be back in stock with 200 units in yellow and gray. The Miyoo Flip is expected to arrive at the end of the month. You can also take advantage of this offer on the
Miyoo a30 at less than 30 $: https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DBUCsJh
#miyoo
(200 units - Just how starved for manufacturing resources are they?!)
considering where the priorities are in china atm. probably pretty starved.
Tell Anbernic that
isn't anbernic a bigger company?
Only by so much
I doubt Miyoo actually has their own manufacturing while Anbernic definitely does
is not a official source
analogue technique
They dropped the A30 and then the Flip is allegedly dropping at the end of the month. I'm pretty sure they'll have more MMv4 after this current batch of devices are out of their initial launch period unless they can't find enough screens or something
The ones who have the "hot" new clamshell that combusts due to what sounds like an engineering error because they gotta crank em out?
Crank they did
Except I won't put it past any one among the makers not to have issues like this
Iirc they ship the majority of the units they manufacture to resellers, and only sell a small amount directly to people
although in the case of the mini it might just be screen scarcity or something
Do we know if the v4 screen is more available than the older ones were?
i think at this point some old 2.8 are more available, because otherwise i cant understand the magic xu mini and the rg28xx
Yeah they're cranking out a30 as quick as possible too but I think that's a different panel
it's possible that is not the blackberry one that they used to use, I've read some complaints about colours, but honestly i can't say if were because software or the quality of the screen
the original miyoo mini was using a tn screen anyway, the one used for yhe new handled is a ips, or at least this is what they say
Their first a30 restock didn't even sell out of all 4 colours anyway for ages, they don't need to go too crazy with stock
oh
I guess all these companies have their own pr methods, miyoo limits stock to small batches, anbernic just releasing a new device and offers a discount on existing ones at the same time, ayaneo announces something a bit whacky and powkiddy probably does something powkiddy'ish
Their devices are p-r for themselves
It's only the MM that they seem to have issues producing. MM+ and a30 are all widely available. If I had to guess there is an issue procuring enough screens or something. Or I could be talking out of my ass.
pretty sure its the screens
or it WAS the screens but now they do it for artificial scarcity but they're not telling anyone
So are we going to hear news about this thing within the next couple weeks or are we being lied to again
Yes!
You could always buy the hot flip from Anbernic (it's self-immolating)
Dude, I said it before and I'll say it again
This problem popping up should be a warning sign for ALL buyers of this kind of handhelds, not just those who look for Anbernic units
if you're talking about the clamshell form factor, I disagree. I think it's more of a warning to those who purchase the first batch of any device. Issues with first/early batches are often ironed out in later batches
Not saying just clamshell
In particular I'm referring to anything with dodgy power management
Should I be concerned......I'm in first batch
there's always a risk...I also have one from the first batch and have had no issues
yea, just as long as you don't use anything outside the recommended specs you should be good
ie. no fast chargers or usb-c to usb-c chargers....use the stock cable that came with the device
I'm using a ugreen USB a to c cable and a dual output (20w and 15w), the ugreen is plugged to the 15w one and haven't had any issues I know yet.....
if you want to be extra safe, I suggest charging through a laptop's usb-a port or one of those low 1 A power cubes
Sigh....I bought the dual specific to cut down on port use......guess I'll use that old 5v iPhone charger
Safety first!!!!
I mean, someone did an extensive test on the SBCGaming reddit thread and concluded that you can use whatever you have
https://www.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/comments/1e414ef/hunting_for_problems_with_the_rg35xxsp/
But imo, you just can't trust these cheap handhelds
It's probably just how the battery was treated during manufacture or assembly. You'd be surprised how sensitive pouch cells can be to damage
I wish that 18650 or 14500 cells were used more so that things are more serviceable but that's not the world we live in
Honestly if they want small, might as well take the good old cellphone battery
It's slim AND safe
18650 is a little too large
That's fair and the shape is awkward in a flat phone
But they'll be available in 50 years probably for market price
I'd say a better option if you want this mindset is just
AAs or AAAs
But the thing is a lot of the faults aren't WITH the battery
But rather the board
If they blow, the plastic itself is enough to kill
I've just leaned into most of my handhelds coming from ewaste and determined to try and sell any of them that I'm not gonna use to do my part
Yeah there definitely have been some decisions with DC power on some boards that I'm like wat about
Honestly these handhelds really just should have never existed, if old handhelds were more flexible and actually in production for forever
Nobody would even THINK of asking for this form factor or that form factor ever
Which goes back to the compute module argument
Doesn't hold much water either when you start to realize the current solutions all want giant IO daughterboards
And a lot of SoC vendors use completely different modules, so in the end interchangeability is still completely out of the question
What should be the reference layout if we want to accomodate a huge range from the cheapest chips like the SSD202D (Miyoo Mini) to the higher end like the RK3588 and Allwinner A523
Is the Miyoo Flip still coming out?
🤷♂️
Sometime between now and the end of the universe probably
when we have a day known as Feb 30
Do we know that the guy who had his SP burn down is from the first batch?
SP has been out for two months now, after all
was the burning battery also with the rgb30?
It was my understanding that the SP catching fire has nothing to do with being a first batch, it was that they cheaped out and didn't include safety regulators so you can't charge them on anything but basic usb a to usb c cables and non-fast chargers
And even then
That first guy said his made a weird sound when running and still plugged it into I think a fast charger in a hot garage overnight.
It’s been a week since I checked on this any new news?
this might be karma for rushing before Miyoo released their SP. Miyoo might come out on top if they don't F this up
I has no trust with this
Thanks. Hopefully this is true.
It will. July 32nd confirmed
That's exciting. My birthday is July 32nd! I'll treat myself.
From the Linux side of the spectrum right now until we get a proper RK3588 Handheld or maybe when the RK3576 is released. The RK3399Pro (not the RK3399 like the RG552) might be a good option. This will give us Performance on par with the GPD XD+ on the Linux side while giving us Power Efficiency on par with the RK3566. I'm also going to test Sega Saturn games to see how they run on my RG552. Almost if not all Sega Saturn and below Emulation should be playable. Also the Chipset will give very light GameCube and PS2 Emulation on the Linux side.
July 32nd!?
I was actually a few days early. My mom was due on the 36th.
It was Doggo's joke. I'm just refusing to let it go...
I see
isnt RG552 weaker than RP3?
more so because it overheats constantly than anything
uhm, why would be 3399pro any better? im looking at datasheets and I dont see anything that would suggest better performance
oh ok, its made on better node, so I guess it would throttle less.
Still at this point 3576 would be better
I mean I haven't gotten bad info from the MM stock bot telegram account yet. I think we'll hear something around the end of the month unless we hear something different
the gpu in rk3399 is more or less abandoned, it's really obsolete at this point and should not be used imo
I never said that the performance would be better. What I'm saying is while waiting for the RK3576 and RK3588 line of Handhelds, the RK3399Pro will put the RK3399 more in line with the RK3566 in terms of power efficiency. This means we can have more Power in a compact form-factor on the Linux side of Handheld Development.
True but as far as Emulation Capabilities goes it will give the community something closer to what they want on the Linux side. We're unfortunately still waiting for the RK3576 and a solid RK3588 Handheld to be released.
RK3399Pro not the RK3399. The newer one has the same performance but with far better Power Efficiency.
No they're about the same when it comes to Emulation.
they said the same about the 3588s and it didnt really pan out, its still quite power hungry
where you cant really fit it into anything smaller than a switch
The RK3399Pro runs at a lower TDP and has a much smaller footprint then the original RK3399.
https://gadgetversus.com/processor/rockchip-rk3399-vs-rockchip-rk3399pro/
Comparison between Rockchip RK3399 and Rockchip RK3399Pro with the specifications of the processors, the number of cores, threads, cache memory, also the pe...
ofc, relatively speaking its still better
im saying that on real world testing, it might not be enough of an improvement
That's fair, however I definitely wouldn't mind seeing it in at least one Handheld.
@nimble portal Especially at the rate some Chinese Handheld producers produce new Handhelds.
Oh nice! Def time to treat yourself. You will be the first to let us know when the flip is here!
is this device dead yet
If it launches in a week's time, I will be....uhh...very surprised 
They said the end of July but they didn’t specify which year
I doubt they will cancel it, they invested too much in it
Do a little research about the Miyoo P60 😛
Yeah, I did. But different devices, different times. Miyoo have a bit more money and experience now, and we already saw more of it than what we ever saw about the P60 🙂
Did they ever told a release window for the P60?
people need to stop harassing these poor customer service people
Dox them instead. Find them in their working spaces. Kidnap them. Torture them in your dungeon of choice until they spill the beans
Not MuOS Beans, just info
It's not like if we can get them we can also get 谢工 directly
I swear over the past year or two I've seen this exact comment a dozen times, people need to stop posting this. It's not harassment, it's their job, stop acting like typing a few words is difficult, and there's no official line of communication so this is what they get
because, as has been shown a dozen times over the past year, they don't know anything
customer service folks on aliexpress aren't engineers or developers
they don't know when something is being released
There's still no harm in asking, even if they give out lies
is it from inside(r) your head?
Calling it now, Final debugging, end of August. Rinse and repeat for another year. Comes out when people stop asking for it
it will comes out after the first dual screen by anbernic
nah it'll come out when PK makes one
Did TrimUI also tease a clamshell at one point or am I imagining things?
I only remember them teasing a vertical
nah just a big DMG brick
Oh yeah, and they've first showed that one back in 2023, I think
I'd really love to see them do more devices, tbh
I hope the buttons/Dpad feels better than the 35XXSP
I used the 35XXSP for like a month and recently went back to the Mini+, the Mini feels sooooo much better
Whoa calm down there, that's a high bar to clear. Let's start with this device existing to begin with at all and go from there
If we don't hear anything within a week or so I'm abandoning all hope honestly
I agree that MM+ controls feel better, but I don't feel like SP plays badly
Like my original plan to buy an SP and get into RPGs failed miserably, and I just keep playing shmups
Feels like I'm doing okay, tbh
I'm hearing from a couple sources that Miyoo is about to drop out from the race and endorse Anbernic
Powkiddy sells Miyoo things though
What if PowKiddy and Miyoo is owned by Anbernic 
Can't wait for anbernic to release rg35xxSP+ with dual analog ...
Big Moorechip owns everything in secret 
Rumors are currently that Miyoo is dying from covid, and it's a big cover-up. Anbernic faked pre-recorded AI recordings of them to make them seem alive.
Please, Miyoo release this. Channel is turning into Tinfoil hat talk.
Thinking the media and those in power are being truthful to you, is the tin foil hat talk my friend. If you haven't noticed, historical events are happening every day and conspiracies proven true constantly. We live in the clown world and the circus is in full swing.
Miyoo announces Miyoo Mini V5
For real??
Which means
...
The Miyoo IS MiHoYo
I KNEW IT!!
I can't wait to see what this channel looks like in a year
I mean, it might take another year with how long it took Miyoo to get the A30 out
I'm not that interested in flips so if lucrative alternatives show up I'll not look at this chat for a while
Have you seen the South Park episode, when the boys start to draw boos?
LMAO
Ok so August
It's gonna be September
And in September it's gonna be October
And so on
Not so fast. You forgot at the beginning of each month it’ll be the end of that month. As it has been for about 4 months meow
Ah it might be finally the day they release P60 to fill in the gap
Just like how A30 got zero news and suddenly it’s out
imo that's pretty much confirmation that it's dead or at least their internal design & development team is/has been on a long hiatus. It would also explain why the A30 was so poorly designed.
August of 2025 or 2026?
neither, 2047
...
any time miyoo says any projected release range it should probably be taken with a few cups of salt
I mean I would absolutely love to slap onion on the flip if it ever comes to fruition
Right? I'm waiting purely because I don't think I'll like the clicky buttons on the 35xxSP. Plus I have other things to keep me occupied till then. I've rushed purchases before (Fuck you 405m) And Have regretted it! Thus, I can wait. Would just like an actual like.. teaser. Something! Lol.
(Do you folks here think a similar quick launch menu could be implemented in MuOS? Just sayin')
I wouldn’t expect it anytime remotely soon… but I would say the same thing about the Miyoo Flip so kind of a tossup lol.
I'm praying that they can integrate that into it
Now don't get me wrong MuOs is great, but onion has been like a legacy firmware for Miyoo devices. Basically streamlined. Now if MuOs can implement it, then it would be up to them.
What RetroArch stuff has to be leveraged?
Won't know until we actually get a Miyoo flip really, each cpu is different. The guys at onion kinda blew it out of the water with their own version of RA tailored in.
Just compiled for that specific platform, or with significant chunks of functionalities modified?
I mean, rg35xx devices aren‘t using as low tier chip as MM did, so I wouldn‘t worry about that
MuOS is CFW. Onion is just a overlay on top of stock. No Onion on A30s. I don't think it will be on these either. I been wrong before.
At this point it’s more like “shame this won’t have MuOS” for me tbh
She should’ve said “it’s cancelled” in the last panel ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Yes, but I'm waiting for the 2nd version of this meme for 2025 🙂 You know, one year later 😛
we got a new guesstimate of release
one that we're taking with a few pounds of salt
If you ask them about P60, will they just say it’s cancelled or that it’s coming in August as well?
the usual
Best thing to do at this point is forget about this device, pretend it's never coming out, and act accordingly
ah okay
This company is really annoying. They're a one hit wonder apparently
two hits, the MM+ is pretty great
safe to say three hits at this point, the a30 is going the mini route
all three thanks to community support though
Is it dead yet
s00n it will be 🤝
At this point I hope they’re just using an AI prompt to answer these.
it has serious hardware issues like the stick click not being actually wired up properly and the inherent heat and battery life issues with using the ancient a33
that unfortunately no software fix will be able to change community or official
They’ve got a storied history with revisions at this point. Wouldn’t be stunned to see an A30 v2 later.
I’d be a lot less surprised to see an A30 v2 than a Flip you can actually buy
I love my A30 with MinUI, I even think it's better than the OG Miyoo Mini thanks to ergonomics alone
I love the form factor of the Mini, but I’ve come to really hate the shoulder button placement. Really wish they were on the very top edge like the 280v and GKD Pixel.
I don't know, the Pixel shoulder buttons are almost unplayable for me (besides that the buttons are quite stiff and my fingers hurt after a while). MM shoulder buttons are not ideal either, but MM for me is much more comfortable than Pixel...
that's a hot take
most people seem to hate the shoulders on top of the 280v / gkd Pixel
I don’t have either in fairness, but when I hold the Mini as though it had the buttons up there, I find it more comfortable than trying to squish my fingers into the spot the shoulders really are.
I’m not saying they made the wrong choice, I’m obviously not the only customer they have to please, but it would sure be better for me.
In August now? Haha, I am waiting for the inevitable delay to September next month
280v was alright for me but I hated the half height pixels
I still need to update the firmware to latest retroarch
Then it would be October
Then July again. July 2025
I see the Miyoo flip people are still doing the same.
The year is 2034.
An AliExpress rep confirms Miyoo Mini flip will be out next month.
is miyoo just a onionOS merchant 
I think it will be announced by end of the month
Haha end of which month?
I think this month!
Its been leaked already so one can only hope
I’m waiting for official announcement before I decide on it vs the anbernic one
my brother in christ, it's been "leaked" for a long time now
and it's been pushed to "the end of the month" or "next week" for months now
this is never coming
Don't you dare use the lords name in vain
It's been leaked for over a year now. This is getting close to the P60 territory.
A reminder the P60 had videos of working prototypes as well
Guys it's almost the end of July where's my frickin' Flip?!!
i thought it was end of august
I thought it was end of september
i thought was the end of the year
It’s waiting for you here
At this point unless I see a year behind the expected release date, ima just assume that its going to be for teh following year or two Lol.
They’re never actually going to manufacture them, they’ll just release the design files for $70 in 2089 when people can just 3D print the whole thing in place themselves, SOCs and all.
Going by their history they only release 1 device per year. We probably see a A30 V2 first
Yeah at this point I'm going to actually unfollow this channel. If this thing ever comes out I'll see a YouTube video about it and come check here again I guess. I don't actually think it's coming and even if it does it's months away
It’s a meme channel first and foremost ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Let's make that years away! I mean it took them two years to release the A30 😛
yall crying way to hard about just 'leaks' lmao
At this point we're the goth kids at the back of the school just smoking and talking shit
The people want to flip, let them flip.
miyoo and retroid disappointing clamshell enthusiasts, name a more iconic duo
daily ask if this device dead yet
what never lived can never die
mini flip doesnt release, 35xxsp catches fire... clamshells are cursed
im just going back to hoping for the p60 and give up on clamshells alltogether
not to mention the d008 and the "game console" clamshell were both cancelled
they're just hard to get right
no sign of a v90 successor either
I mean hinges are brutal. If you have an GBA SP and need new hinges all of the aftermarket ones are kind of bad
35xx SP works fine, GPD XD/+
So it's August 😄 Who's going to ask the Miyoo bot? 😛
Do we really have to make them tap the sign this time?
I'll just buy the Anbernic as this rate.
I really want it to be Rockchip though. The h700 in the SP barely has any support
Wut
Official firmware update for the SP is weirdly behind the other h700 handhelds
It wouldn't have mattered
Except for the low power sleep
I'd say give it a month or two (especially with how miyoo is dragging their legs) for MUOS and Knulli to catch up
I can't say anything about the stock firmware, I ditched it instantly
LET IT DIE
New models sounds interesting though. But im guessing they just mean the flip rather than something else entirely
"and the new model(S)" = many products
Miyoo press conference? Now that's something
Hope its as long as Arthur’s ones
It's gonna be a live debugging session
No deal unless they have long thumb nails
😂
Maybe then i might watch
Well yeah you can’t build one without that. It’s part of the required toolkit.
"as you can see, this doesn't work, but it was working fine yesterday"
what are you even talking about?
what's happening?
Not much what's new with you?
What's happening?
Just chillin 😎
prob miyoo flip announcement soon
lmao
I'm hoping that they're iterating on designs to try and make a solid first hardware effort. It's definitely what that sounds like if the telegram group is to believed. No one needs a hot new flip that lights on fire or has broken hinges instantly
I think it's possibly coming out still. Miyoo has always had a long release process for their stuff. It's quite possible that they'll get the next design revision and nope out because it's too much effort to fix but they also may approve it for mass production. I'm giving it like 65 percent chance to release still. When they get quiet and say nothing is when it's dead for sure.
Whether or not it's worth the wait if it releases is a different story lol
I'm not waiting in intense anticipation I'm just passively waiting and seeing
at this point i see more probable an a30 revision with jack audio e analog fixed than a new handled
wouldn't be surprised if we got an a30 Plus in 3.5" in like a year before the flip is released
Could they be delaying in order to switch to a new soc? I've heard anecdotal statements that the 3566 is hard to develop on.
I think it's safe to say we move on to another miyoo's other projects?
If Powkiddy can manage it....

Yeah, I mean, there's already like 20 RK3566 devices out there, and not just Anbernic/PK
Do they make any software?
If you decide to use mainline linux before 2022
If you stick to Rockchip BSP, there are education boards made with this SoC
Plenty of rk3566 in use in those e-ink readers as well from Chinese brands, and some tablets too
the miyoo flip is just the handheld equivalent of helldivers 2's antitank mines
Half-Life 3 or Myoo Mini Flip release first? Make a bet 
I’ve got a bet with a friend about which releases first, Switch 2 or GTA 6 in that vein.
At this point I think they already shelved it, they are just not willing to admit it yet
yeah i agree, their designs is very compact and I think they have major problem between and the chip that they want to use
at least also the guys from magicx want to make an clamshell, it's planned for this year with a 3.2 screen with an higher res, the fact thst they delivered the magic mini u give me a little bit of hope
The xu mini was also delayed thoughbeit
Yeah but only like a couple months and always with a clear status report about where they’re at and how long they expect the next step to take. By the first announced release date, we were already getting videos showing fully assembled devices running real software and updates telling us which manufacturing partners they were waiting on.
Pretty different from the Miyoo situation
Who wants to bet on what will be released first: switch 2, gta 6 or miyoo flip
@quiet lynx left 4 dead 3
I bet HL 3 will come out before the flip 🙃
It’s actually exclusive for the Flip
the thing is
if the flip came out this meme channel would cease to exist
we can't have that
meme channel shall live on
The real miyoo flip is the community meme we have
The real flip was the miyoo flip not releasing along the way
I say switch 2, and have a friend who says gta 6
We can restart the p60 meme and keep it going.
Don’t worry, it’s in the blender. Coming soon!
So...they're mixing the paint right now?
ok but the P60 as a clamshell would be an instant buy for me
we don't have the technology
I can dream damnit
I was hoping for a solid console, unfortunately it will be liquid
It would be very funny if by blending they mean blender and they are still making the 3D renders etc.
Despite the fact that we have functioning prototypes
Nah that's just translation bullshit
They do mean tuning the colors for release models

New pic?
Sorry for the little news from miyoo flip, remember that miyoo is a small company
I leave a photo of the miyoo flip
Miyoo Mini Plus: https://t.co/mThPVdq3sz
Miyoo A30:
https://t.co/rXJ4bYAfRV
Miyoo Mini V4:
https://t.co/J1iAEqwrlr
#miyoo #miyooflip
Looks interesting. If the buttons feel good I'm all for it
All black and I’m in, i seriously can’t wait
Yeah all black and/or white would be awesome
Another photo taken on the tea table
I feel my hands cramping from joystick use just by looking at the pic
But I'm all for it
omg that dpad looks so bad
Hey, at least its on top
anbernic dpad on this when
I'm all in for the Retro color schemes (the grays and blacks, with either red or purple) but not the cigarette stain yellow
i do also remember something like that all the stain yellow Gameboy are actually more white than anything
100% ai generated
It's not real
It's not real
It's dead
but this yellow is a new level
would say lemon cream
People often forget how that old plastic from the early tech days was a off white that just stained with age
Oh I never forgot, that's why I hate it
yeah, i guess it's also because new generations not really saw them new
i remember the gameboy of the same colour of mine super Nintendo
8bitdo did a good job with the colour of their snes inspired controller
the Gameboy use to have the same colour scheme
don't really know from where miyoo took the colour for the miyoo mini
i know that is more the plastic that change colour with the time
even the first playstation is starting to become that colour
Weird my original Playstation did not stain that much
I wonder if it's a uv reaction
And Gameboys probably saw more direct sunlight than the playstation.
maybe the angle didn't do the picture justice but this one looks thicker than the previous prototypes
yeah is something like that
how much time was under the light basically
I actually like a lot the yellowish grey
Idk why but this made me laugh so much
'rice flip chart'
Let them cook
I mean it... It looks like they let the sun cook it for them so....
Wasn’t ts supposed to release last month
You could repeat that for a few months
@proud bough yo I guess this is what they meant when they said they were blending the colors 😂
I owned an OG Snes, when I was kid, that's why I hated the fact that it turned yellow for some, like my SNES never even got a chance to turned liked that before it broke
I'm ready for the miyoo flip!!!
It's the miyoo flip that is not ready for you
I would've rather had those sticks be sliders tbh
But it's nice to know it isn't completely dead
i unno the fact that we are this far in and this is the current state...
watch them put a low end processor in there to make the sticks not only ugly but also useless
It has EmuSta which suggests at least a GPU that helps with some DreamCast or n64 stuff
I wouldn't mind. If it is MM or MM+ but in clamshell, I'd be happy even with sticks... Just make it light and small. Anbernic is hefty...
I wouldn't mind at all a miyoo mini in this form factor either but in that case I'd just remove the god awful sticks altogether
it was rumoured to be the rk3566 a long while ago, no idea if that's still current
So the miyoo flip could maybe run ps2 games?
I guess there’s no way to tell yet but i have my hopes up
hell no, the 3566 ain't anywhere near powerful enough for PS2
😔
Maybe one day we’ll get a small ps2 emulator
Unless there’s a clamshell device that’s already out there that i don’t know of
the best you got is the RP Flip (which is out of production) or the Powkiddy X18S (which is also out of production)
I am still waiting for a flip 2 that is much better then the flip 1
same, but I'm ready to buy all clamshells that come out since they are rare
Until the year of the clamshell 😅
doubt
it'll take a lot for these companies to all get going on Clamshells
especially after the build issues the RP Flip had
see, the thing is we still got pictures like that about the p60 like... fairly recently
someone with a prototype asking on reddit, twitter etc if people are excited for it
so even this... doesnt mean anything.
i would love a miyoo flip, but theres no knowing if it will actually release
I’m sure there will be companies that will copy the rg35xxsp’s design given how relatively successful sales have been and the fact that there isn’t a widespread issue with hinges like the rp flip, companies will definitely use the sp’s hinge as a template. So I do expect a lot more clamshells similar to the sp’s design to pop out. Just look at how the miyoo mini plus’ design has spawned so many similar devices (not saying miyoo was first but I feel like they popularized it)
i think miyoo kinda did create the whole modern vertical handheld segment if you go way back to the original bittboy. no one was really doing them before that
not even famiclones
anyway i think recreating a workable hinged design isn't as simple as just using an existing device as a template, otherwise we would've seen clones based on the v90 already (or hell even the GBA SP)
it was said that the D-008 was cancelled because the plastic came out too thick or something. the tolerances must be pretty low
i saw the patent for the R3xS company's cancelled clamshell & they'd obviously just "designed" it by copying the miyoo flip patent and changing some things lol. they gave it an SP like hinge and different sticks iirc but all the colours were similar and they even misspelled "stars" the same way
..and this is why most companies usually make sure their patents don't get published until the product is actually ready
Ugh guess I’ll cancel my order for the anbernic SP
nah, don't count on Miyoo cooking at any good pace
at this point yeah
would be funny if when the miyoo flip was ready to launch we got news of the retroid flip 2
i wonder when powkiddy plans to launch x18s v4
from just chatting with and poking over calten's shoulder, the engineer was literally at the point of making some good changes, and then the ceo killed the entire x18 line.
retroid flip with 6 face buttons for genesis/saturn/n64
so just the normal flip, but stronger chip and 2 more face buttons
I'd prefer the X18S because I love that 5.5" screen
ewwwwwwww
get out
fair I suppose
I really dig it
it'd work great as a little streaming device/media player
it does have alot of love from the community in retrospect
it was hated kinda at the time
pk does that, m3p was that too
the worst part is that Dpad and honestly I do want to find a way to fix it with readily available parts
this is true. I still think these competing companies will eventually release their version of the SP given how popular the RG35XXSP is. I've never owned a v90 and was considering getting one but heard performance isn't that great. Is it still worth picking up? I like the fact that it looks more pocketable than the RG35XXSP which I own and admit is a bit thick
yeah i like the V90 but its absolutely not powerful at all, it basically maxes out at SNES and still struggles with some games on that. can do some low end PS1 as well. so if you don't expect too much from it & don't pay too much for it you might be happy with it
how is gba performance? If it can emulate gba decently considering it copies the gba sp design I think I might consider picking one up
GBA seemed fine to me but i didn't play many GBA games on it tbh. you might want to look for videos on that
i found it really good for MD games because the resolution matches exactly, they look great on it
where the p60 at
every time someone mentions the p60 it curses the flip to be delayed by another month
lmao
how much do we have to delay the flip by before they actually release the p60?
we have a good alternative to the flip now but we still have no good pocket PSP
well at least magicx is doing something about the p60 sized hole in my heart 
the touch one may not be what everyone wants but it'll be enough to make me forget about the p60 the way miyoo forgot about it
also it had no headphone jack so it was dead to me anyway lol
What are they doing and what chip are they using
if it's the one I'm thinking of it's the A133P, the same chipset in the TrimUI SmartPro
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supposed to have A523 instead of A133P
it's a step above TSP. gow chains of olympus needed the 30fps cheat in order to run full speed, but should be just fine with the vast majority of psp games that aren't at that level. #1266817458417832110 message
My only major fear is that it won't run those higher end games too well due to the CPU nodes being all A55 cores
Man i been waiting for this shit forever
Was supposed to be my first handheld
Just bought the miyoo min plus
why not the RG35XX SP?
Definitely excited for the touch one! The design is really interesting, and might make a unique DS experience
I really want onion os
I assume the miyoo flip will also get it, albeit after some time
that's a big assume
Guys the Miyoo P60 has been cancelled long time ago and IT will never happen!
I was the one who was pushing Miyoo to release the Miyoo P60, but it was cancelled in the end.
Way too many troubles with the Android, the heat and the joysticks!
push them harder pls
I wish they were as commited as Anbernic or at least powkiddy
I thought the dual sticks was stupid until someone mentioned dual stick shooters and that makes sense
Maybe in the future they could use the G99, but since it's Miyoo I doubt it 😛
Also N64. Often useful to map some/all c buttons to a right stick.
How are the miyoo flip people doing?
Drowned the sorrow in three more minis... 
Maybe we need to start bothering their customer support about P60, 3D print the thing and make a YouTube preview of the 3D printed P60
Scenario A they’ll think we’re over the Flip and release it (that’s how we got the A30, sorta)
Scenario B: hooray, we get P60
Scenario C: nothing happens
wait the P60 has hope again?
Of course not
Miyoo there are hundreds of people who need a P60. Make it happen.
Yeah, make sure it actually gets market ready so that Anbernic will make an equivalent and beat you to market
It's not worth announcing anything early in this market. Anbernic would release a week later if I announced a retro gaming bidet, much less a handheld
