#Miyoo Flip

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chilly thicket
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p60 wen

elfin patrol
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Miyoo never posts this videos right? It's always insiders or leaks

opaque breach
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Don't misread it!!
I know it actually means that the OP of the vid will be incredibly hyped IF the handheld has RK3566. If it has that chip, this thing will "take off" so to speak.
IF!

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Sometimes catchy phrases just hide a lot of grammatically required boilerplate

onyx minnow
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They have been chatting to aya neo apparently 😂

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Can’t wait for them to put 10 of these up for sale and sell out immediately

dusty pecan
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if cloners wanted, they would do it already

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just with 3326

modern siren
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disgusted but take my money

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cheaper than to IPS mod my AGS-101, all I'm saying

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RK3566 would have a working GPU for shit like shaders too

elfin patrol
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We know it's not the same chip as the MM/MM+ at least

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I'd be fine with either RK3326 or RK3566 but would prefer the latter even if drives the price up

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That Dpad worries me though

lofty cedar
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If it is going to be using something different and rule out onion, it might as well have the more capable of those two

late field
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ArkOS AmberElec and JELOS on this would be hilarious 🤣 oops sorry not JELOS

lofty cedar
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not sure if I have ever used an amberelec device

empty inlet
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I think most would wait for some form of Onion OS given it's poplarity on other miyoo devices

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No idea if it's even feasible or not yet

elfin patrol
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Depends on how Miyoo ported mainUI over to the new chipset

dense oar
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Man those sticks are hard to look at lol

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Would be nice to see one of these actually release though

radiant burrow
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Sticks on this are trash. But I'll probably buy it anyway. Honestly not sure why everyone gets hyped over a diff chip. If it was a mm+ clamshell it would still sell a ton. I'm not personally playing anything on this I can't already play on the mm+ and...onion.

lofty cedar
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I wonder if some are hoping the result will be onion on 3566 rather than the more likely one of no onion on this miyoo

pale gyro
chilly thicket
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also no gpu = no transparency layers for notifications, no shaders, barely any ports, and no fifth gen games

pale gyro
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The real question is? Onion OS is it a CFW or a Custom overlay?

chilly thicket
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a 3566 on this with sticks means potentially portmaster, which would be huge

radiant burrow
chilly thicket
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that's fair, I do hope this gets onionOS despite the new chip

radiant burrow
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Sticks are still trash on this. Unless you're a 5 year old. Lol

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I can have a thumb war while playing video games 😅

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Onion on this with a new chip will be like garlic 2.0. 😅 one version. Immature. Never seen again. Haha

dark oracle
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30 0 days since last sticks vs no sticks argument

chilly thicket
radiant burrow
rotund ember
night raven
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Good thing you can just, not use the sticks

dense oar
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I mean looks definitely matter to people, otherwise they would buy more vans than SUVs lol

night raven
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People will buy Vans if all there is are Vans, we're living in a world with no SUVs

timber spindle
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^

dense oar
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Oh for sure, and if this and the clambernic both end up existing I’d go anbernic. Currently I still wouldn’t buy this personally, but I do want to see it released as I think it could sell well and bring lots of people joy

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But again to me, sticks completely ruin it lol

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So much so I just wouldn’t buy it

dense oar
night raven
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Eh it's possible to be in the middle, I'll buy whichever one comes out first probably

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I don't really care if it has sticks or not I probably won't use them but it's nice to have them in case you want them, it's good for PS1/N64 as well as shortcuts

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I care more about them using a good enough battery. The ultra portable design will be compromised if they don't use a good battery size

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I'm expecting the same as the mm+

dense oar
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I mean what would you consider good life? As ultra portables do tend to get used in shorter spurts

radiant burrow
night raven
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I mean I just want as big as they can give us or as big as they're willing. I think the most we can realistically hope for is maybe 3500mah

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4000 would be nice though

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Anything smaller than 3000 would be a deal breaker and disappointing

night raven
radiant burrow
# night raven They are not unnecessary though and they have multiple uses. They are recessed a...

Also makes it look ugly. haha. But for me, they do get in the way. I have devices this size and absolutely touch the device there with my thumbs. I don't want to feel something moving under my thumb where I don't personally feel it should or where it could unintentionally cause misdirection in my game. Call it wrong all you would like, just like last time you said I was wrong. I'm not wrong in my case so...🤷🏻‍♂️ Welcome to the real world where opinions aren't wrong, they just differ from yours.

night raven
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I didn't account for ogre hands I guess, how the heck do you accidentally touch the sticks with your thumbs? Your palms would make sense maybe, but your thumbs?

subtle mango
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Just imagining how someone would grip a device in a way to cause that makes my wrists hurt

dense oar
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lol I’m all for stick debate but I don’t think it’s that serious guys

night raven
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Well, as for accidentally affecting the game you can probably adjust the settings in the emulator right? Depends on which emulator I guess. There will probably be an easy way to take the device apart and remove the analog sticks entirely. Not sure what you would fill the hole with.

subtle mango
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In RA you could just unbind the sticks to any movement for say if it’s a Dpad game like GBA or something

chilly thicket
subtle mango
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That’s basically the only thought that made sense when I was thinking about it

halcyon snow
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Dude Miyoo better be ready to crank this out in droves, I feel like this is gonna sell like hotcakes

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This might be the first handheld I set an alarm in the middle of the night to buy as soon as preorders open

night raven
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Yeah, I have pretty much zero interest in low powered emulation handhelds but even I am hyped about this

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This will have a lot of reach just like the original miyoo, it might even sell more because of the form factor

halcyon snow
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The last handheld that really did this was the V90 and it's just been aged out due to its low res screen and weak processor

night raven
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For something you're going to stick in your pocket when you go out, you don't get better than this in terms of size and form factor

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This is the apex, the culmination of 30 years of handheld design

vocal grove
halcyon snow
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If it had been a 3266 with a 640x480 the v90 would still be hugely popular

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And yeah I want them sticks for Dreamcast and N64

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I'm betting somebody will 3D print a cover for them to hide em for the people who dislike em

night raven
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Yeah probably some piece of plastic you can stick in the hole that covers them

dark oracle
vocal grove
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Hoping this device doesn’t end up in purgatory

night raven
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And you can spray paint it the same color so it blends in

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Even if this particular device never comes out of the factory, somebody somewhere has to make a gba SP clone at some point

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It's too popular of a concept not to do

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Anbernic, Retroid and Powkiddy all have a decent chance at making one also

dark oracle
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say the April/May launch doesn't happen, then at this rate the rgb20s will be cloned 10 more times before we get another clamshell handheld mariodead

halcyon snow
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The big trick is just hinges, and if they're smart they'll just use the clones that are out there of actual SP hinges

night raven
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I saw some talk about the d-pad earlier. It looks like a typical modern Nintendo d-pad, small. Can't tell if it's membrane or dome. I don't think they could use their typical d-pad on this that would require a lot of recess, maybe there's not enough room in the shell. I imagine they would do it if they could

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I guess by modern I mean it looks like the DS or the 3DS d-pad

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It's probably dome though so it'll feel different. I'd much prefer membrane

chilly thicket
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I need either functional sleep mode (so mainline linux or a good android build) or a quick mode like arkOS/minui/onionOS on my pocketable handhelds

halcyon snow
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Eh way I see it is if it's popular enough somebody will make it work. Especially if it's 3566? So easy to port all of the 3566 CFW

chilly thicket
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if I have to do a whole shutdown/boot up process every time like I do on my max3pro or whatever every single time I pull it out it loses the appeal for me

night raven
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Yeah I agree sleep mode is paramount

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I think this device will be so popular that support will be there

pale gyro
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close the lid and it goes to sleep. I just wish they release it.

chilly thicket
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if this got onion and did the auto save + shutdown on lid close and boot + load on lid open 🤤

hollow lagoon
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Tomorrow is pi Day so maybe they'll announce it officially

loud quartz
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I'm gonna wait for a review with drop test before thinking about buying this.

vocal grove
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If its a clamshell, i have to have it

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Which ultimately leads to disappointment but thats okay

golden hazel
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Holy shit the abxy and dpad are so low profile they might be dome switch

chilly thicket
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I think they are

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they were on the GBASP weren't they?

golden hazel
shut otter
sullen vine
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Thanks for the video, I'm sending this to Nintendo now so I can get a free Nintendo Switch

elfin patrol
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Nah they'll give you 1000 Coins for use in the switch store and a Mario poster

lilac heart
dark idol
tawdry obsidian
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That's literally just a Funkey

dark idol
tawdry obsidian
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Nitrix just compiles clips and photos shown on social media, that's all

dusty pecan
dark oracle
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the new news in question: "expected in June"

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jk looking forward to it

jaunty storm
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I am still confused if this is the miyoo flip or clambernic

dark oracle
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this is the miyoo flip

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if you saw the nittrx post, just ignore it

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and block that channel while you're at it

jaunty kernel
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Will definitely be getting one when they finally appear if they don’t sell out in minutes/seconds that is which i’ve a feeling they will……

lilac heart
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The release date is this summer!

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June, July, August or September - there's A LONG way!

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Don't get too hyped over this!

dark oracle
lilac heart
dark oracle
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so that would mean this post is already out of date lol

lilac heart
dark oracle
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hmm I feel like this question should've been worded better. like "when is the expected release" instead of "will it release in x"

lilac heart
dark oracle
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I do hear peeps saying it's now planned to release in June

lilac heart
dark oracle
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looks like that one was from last month

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think we're going with June now

tawdry obsidian
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The ol P60 release date cycle

lapis token
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just troll

pale gyro
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Good old just ask Ali and be lied to post are the worse.

dark oracle
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even though the vid is the same, the tweet itself is new

pale gyro
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We had videos of the P60 also.

delicate cloud
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I saw an update from X about the miyoo flip. The build quality looks great to me. I like how the sticks are placed inset

jaunty storm
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the sticks are probably cramp city

late field
inland brook
# lilac heart

I asked for the color they told me it was a render to identify the different parts of the shell and not an actual color scheme 🥺

empty cedar
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Cool pfp 🍻

delicate cloud
chilly thicket
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the black/grey/green colourway looks pretty slick tbh

night raven
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I really hope the colorways are nice, not even hoping for a specific color scheme

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This is going to be even more pocketable than the original miyoo mini

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Less fragile, slightly more playable as well

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If Anbernic releases a clamshell as well, I think it'll further push these guys to make onion OS work

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If we get onion on this it's game over, hands down

pale gyro
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Miyoo doesn't make Onion.

pale gyro
radiant burrow
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I don't see anyone pushing miyoo to do anything. They didn't seem to care when anbernic released the rg35xx + or h. "Shit did you guys see what anbernic did! We need to do something new!" 😮‍💨

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And the mm and mm+ both had onion, plenty still bought the rg35xx. 🤷🏻‍♂️

pale gyro
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The casual people commenting on things. Brightens my day.

radiant burrow
delicate cloud
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Jay gotta be super bored today kek_leo

lavish widget
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And they keep postponing the flip...

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And they keep postponing the flip...

tawdry obsidian
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I thought they said they were postponing the a30 for the flip lol

quick bluff
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woah that's a crazy twist lol

lofty vapor
radiant burrow
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If it's real and not smoke lol

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I honestly don't care what they release next. I'm buying. 😅

empty cedar
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miyoo broke our ankles with that one thats crazy

night raven
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All vaporware

empty cedar
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schrodinger's clamshell is the gift that keeps giving

shell wraith
modern siren
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Wrong post

modern siren
timber spindle
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What's the a30

lavish widget
subtle mango
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the A30 emerges from the dust like a weird demon

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I think it knows calculus

lavish widget
pale gyro
subtle mango
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delaying the new clamshell handheld that we want

pale gyro
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A30 needs to lose its stick

subtle mango
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eh it can stay for better Spyro times

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as long as it's recessed enough it'd be fine

night raven
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I'm torn on this because it's obviously super pocketable and very aesthetically pleasing, but the exposed screen...

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I can't put that in my pocket without worry because of the screen

night raven
lavish widget
jaunty storm
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So who want to bet the retroid pocket flip 2 comes before the miyoo flip? doggylol

lavish widget
lavish widget
jaunty storm
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I just want a good clamshell

late field
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powerhaha This is fake btw

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pale gyro
late field
night raven
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Wait a minute, you mean people would go on the internet and just tell lies???

jaunty storm
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Are they lies? They feel real 😅

lilac heart
dusty pecan
lilac heart
dusty pecan
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what killed it, RP2+ and RP3?

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it supposed to be released july 2022 iirc

shadow star
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Which chip was the P60 going to have?

solemn silo
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So postponed till after April

dusty pecan
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power between T310 and T618

jaunty storm
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At this point I have no idea what miyoo is doing

pale gyro
shadow star
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Unless it was Linux and not Android?

pale gyro
dusty pecan
shadow star
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Oh, Nevermind then

chilly thicket
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The p60 had an 800x480 4” screen that would’ve been amazing for gba though

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And we have like zero small flat widescreens for pocket psp atm

timber spindle
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What's the a30

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Specs and screen etc

timid vector
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A30 is a horizontal, supposedly with an a33.#1123549937553121303 message

night raven
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I'll believe it when it hit the stores, they keep giving dates and they keep delaying

chilly thicket
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and supposedly with the MMv4 screen (750x560 2.8")

timber haven
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Thought you meant the flip for a sec, that'd be one tiny clamshell 😆

chilly thicket
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But the v90/gba sp/miyoo flip size is probably small enough

late field
vivid crater
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Aye. I've never looked at my V90 and wished it was smaller. It already takes up half a pocket at most.

Unless I want to use it as a keyring, I don't really see the advantage of going smaller, given the trade off of a small screen.

gilded wasp
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The new video makes it look like a retro pixel pocket flip.

delicate cloud
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I'm calling it now. Miyoo flip in summer time. June/July or the latest is August. I'm also gonna guess the 2 have the same specs?

covert frigate
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I'm so over Flip now it's too late. I discovered I prefer horizontals like RG35XXH which allows me to flip it and play vertical games. The pocketability of a Flip device isn't much better than a RG35XXH as it's thicker. Although RG35XXH is wider it is more suitable for a pocket to have wider but thinner device

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Damaging screen is no issue as have a glass screen protector and scratches on the plastic hard to see as I went for transparent clear

delicate cloud
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I'm justa fan of Gameboy Sp clones

edgy bobcat
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I certainly don’t need a flip at this point but I am an absolute sucker for clamshells and the fact that this has been in production for so long tells me that at least Miyoo is being thorough? He said, hopefully?

covert frigate
humble vale
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Is fhis sceeen the perfect ratio for GBA?

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oh shoot I thought this was the A30 channel lol

last orchid
gilded wasp
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Is this being made by funnyplaying? It looks surprisingly similar to the retro pixel pocket?

dark idol
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So I heard from Nittrx that the Miyoo Mini Flip is going to have a RK3566 in it. If this is true would you buy it. I know definitely would.

timber haven
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😩 so sick of that chipset & its battery woes

subtle mango
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I'd rather have it than the MM/+ chipset

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Maybe chipset in the RG35XX+/H would be pretty dope

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I think that chipset's performance is roughly a smidgen better than the 3326

dusty pecan
twilit ledge
subtle mango
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Oh gods that’d shit this product from day one

timber spindle
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but same chip would mean mu or batocera should be portable over?

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also dual screen mini flip when

twilit ledge
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in theory. But there is no indication this would use that chip

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we will see in 10 years when its released

timber spindle
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doggo demands his dual screen mini flip

subtle mango
night raven
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For me the only real deal breaker with the chip is it needs to be able to play the full GBA catalog with fast forward.

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Ideally the full PS1 catalog as well

subtle mango
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So basically 3326 or better

lavish widget
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Rk3326 Is it better than the cortex A8 that the rg355xx plus has?

dark idol
subtle mango
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Either way these chipsets should do what we want

raw sentinel
subtle mango
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yeah but portmaster on this ASAP

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having Stardew valley on a clamshell like this, sign me up

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OR Doom 3

worthy kettle
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clamshell valley

subtle mango
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I will put Stardew valley on every device I can

twilit ledge
subtle mango
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Damn

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That'd be sick if it did work tho

twilit ledge
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I mean it does, its just fps drops below 20 quite a lot

chilly thicket
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Alien vs predator seems to work though so that’s sick

sullen vine
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If it's an rk3566 with only 2hrs playing PS1 would you guys buy?

dark idol
dark idol
dark idol
keen shard
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Speaking of that was just trying to find out if I can get Stardew on my trimui smart. Such a good time waster

raw sentinel
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I don’t think the Trimui Smart or Pro can run Portmaster for Stardew… I’ve asked around cuz the Smart Pro is super cheap right now

twilit ledge
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Plays best as the Alien

dusty pecan
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rg35xx plus is with allwinner h700, it has 4x a53, and h700 is slightly better than 3326

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old rg35xx had 4x cortex a9 not a8 - its noticeably worse than 3326

lavish widget
dusty pecan
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well 3566 is somewhat better than h700

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not a lot though, maybe ds and dreamcast, saturn and psp runs better on 3566

timber spindle
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^my name

dusty pecan
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OnionOS covers a multitude of sins.

rotund ember
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Don't know where the 2 hours figure comes from, tbh

empty cedar
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i think the 2 hours are just there for the hypothetical

sullen vine
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I based the estimate mostly from the Powkiddy v90 battery life, if ever the battery is physically as small.

subtle mango
shadow star
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🤔

night raven
timid vector
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Seems weird to release two devices at basically the same time

subtle mango
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I pray the flip releases that soon

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I doubt it'll release before summer

timid vector
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Definitely in the next century or two

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I've certainly realized that my caring about these things depends entirely on Onion so if that support comes, that's when I am interested. So release isn't quite it for me

chilly thicket
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unless the a30 is cheap I don't see how it fits

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like the flip will be a bigger screen and more pocketable

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v90 vs trimui smart which is aproximately the same comparison for reference

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final hare
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Also hopefully thinner and much cheaper than flip

dawn stream
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apparently there's a misconception about the size of the trimui smart, it's actually slightly larger than how it's like in retrosizer

night raven
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I'm somebody who is really not into low-powered small devices, but the a30 looks sexy as hell

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Crispy d-pad, large buttons, beautiful aesthetics

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If they make it super affordable I wouldn't even mind risking putting it in my pocket, if it's affordable so what if it breaks you can just buy another

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I'm really hoping it's around $50 but I suspect it'll be like 65 or 70

dawn stream
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i really doubt it'll be 50

jolly sequoia
night raven
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I need them to at least announce the colorways for the flip

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Give us some crumbs

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Please sir may I have another

proven jay
jolly sequoia
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V1 had a great screen but a poor quality build, V2 was an upgrade in every regard, and V3 was the one who introduced the 560p screen. For all we know V2 & V3 were the exactly the same device, so that may be the reason they where merged here.

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proven jay
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Was surprised to read it because I do remember that they were planning to add either WiFi or Rtc in the OG version, but yeah, maybe is just the version with the old screen

worthy kettle
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i guess my bank account may bleed a little next month

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😅

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kinda want to get the a30 and the flip if both are good enough

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and assuming they both actually release

raw sentinel
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They left the year out again. They wouldn’t be intentionally trolling us right?

dusty pecan
dusty pecan
timber haven
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rgb30 can pretty regularly be snagged for ~65, pretty sure the rk2023 can be had for less too

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80 is probably reasonable to expect for this tho

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Hinge adds cost & manufacturing complexity

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Really hoping it's anything other than a 3566 tho

dusty pecan
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wasnt it confirmed year ago to be 3566?

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what else it can be? h700 that only black seraph supports? s905? some other ewaste CPU?

rotund ember
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S905X5 would be sweet, but so unlikely

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I think that's the only A510-only chip right now

timber haven
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I don't really care what it uses as long as it doesn't have the janky charging issues most 3566 devices have & has better battery life, mediocre n64 with cramped controls doesn't excite me all that much

rich plover
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Performance on Dreamcast (where retroarch is pretty good) is a lot closer

lilac heart
pale gyro
timber spindle
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Inside scoop for release date

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June 31st 2024

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Directly from miyoo ceo

rotund ember
# timber spindle June 31st 2024

Oh, so that's the problem.

They weren't bullshitting us with previous dates, it's just that February 30th didn't work out and they might have a problem with March the 43rd, so now they're playing it safe

timber spindle
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What kind of company would lie to us like this right

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Knowing there's a massive market for it

empty cedar
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Who knows man

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I'm just kind of ignoring projected dates until I see it's available for sale

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Or until the RGC video drops

radiant burrow
timber spindle
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Coz I said it was June 31st

radiant burrow
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People have been getting pissy forever over miyoos response to random people messaging them asking when it's coming out. 😅

raw sentinel
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It could still be December

radiant burrow
raw sentinel
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You are an optimist, I see

timber spindle
rich plover
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just got word on the release date from miyoo

rough breach
opaque breach
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Hello, I'm Sulp Inim Oo Yim, I can confirm we will get the first batch of review and develop units prepared by April 2024 ||/s||

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It will come with Onion OS out of the box with ArkOS support underway

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Terry A. Davis has been in talk with us about TempleOS support, so that it will be accepted by Christian communities

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While we can't disclose the details yet, rest assured we are dedicated to bringing you a polished handheld from the start. Our launch titles will be revealed during the June Nintendo Direct.

night raven
rotund ember
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Hope Super 3D Noah's Ark comes preinstalled

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(probably supported by portmaster actually, since it's based on Wolf3D)

twilit ledge
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Hello sir, do you want to talk about our Lord and Savior, mainline Linux?

worthy kettle
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already a convert

tired hazel
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I want the flip so bad

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miyoo knows we want it bad

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will they have enough supply peepoMEGASad

rotund ember
tired hazel
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The flip will be the more powerful one no?

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Or they are all pretty much the mini plus in diff shells

opaque breach
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It most definitively HAS to be more powerful
The SoC in the Mini doesn't support any smooth HDMI output

radiant burrow
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Not every device needs HDMI out...

lofty cedar
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I wonder if them releasing together might mean that the a30 will end up using the same chipset as the mini, so it'd be able to get onion os support very quickly

rich plover
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idk we'll see. last word was it was using the allwinner a33. which at least has some previous firmware work from the pocketgo s30.

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so there's already some groundwork done i think at least

twilit sun
lofty cedar
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ah, that's true, also you'd hope that miyoo would be smart enough to work with the onion os devs or set up their stock so it was suitable, they must surely realise that it is one of the main reasons for buying their handhelds

opaque breach
idle flower
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So much discussion here, makes me think there's been some update?

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I don't see any pins, and there's too much spam since I left checked here. Has there been an update?

shadow star
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#1101304832276562012 message

idle flower
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Ty bud.

April 15 what?! Chat is this real

dark oracle
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no clue

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it's the first time we've seen a relatively small date range instead of a month, but idk about the source

radiant burrow
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I hope you're super disappointed when you're wrong

dark oracle
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not sure if anything changed recently but miyoo said a long while ago that this will have 3566

radiant burrow
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When we really don't know anything about it aside from images and a video

dark oracle
#

I think it's reasonable to assume that from such images and the video, but yeah it's a wait and see kind of deal

radiant burrow
#

Everything with miyoo always is haha. I never put my mind to a certain idea until it's out by the company for these devices because we know things can always change

timid vector
#

I hear it's going to spit rainbows and run Switch games

worthy kettle
#

oooooh rainbows

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i like those

night raven
night raven
opaque breach
radiant burrow
chilly thicket
#

why are you being so hostile here?

languid sluice
#

He's so clearly projecting his own insecurities onto other people that it's embarrassing

timber haven
#

I can't imagine caring that much about hdmi inclusion either way tbh, not something I've ever used or ever will use, but if it's there for those who do then it's not really a bother idk

pale gyro
#

People let's just all enjoy games and the handhelds we play them on.

night raven
#

People let's just all be passive aggressive little bitches and ridicule people for their life decisions and opinions.

chilly thicket
#

But like also I’d be fine with that one “handheld” just being my laptop or a steam deck

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But if all I owned was a miyoo flip and a desktop PC the flip having hdmi would be a huge selling point to let me play two player snes at a friends place on their tv with them

twilit ledge
#

I used hdmi once for 3 player TMNT:SR coop on tv. It was pretty fun

twilit sun
#

i want hdmi IN

timber haven
chilly thicket
#

For the most part they’re using chips that support it natively in one way or another so yeah it’s pennies to add the port, but retroid going out of their way to add additional hardware to try and translate the screen DSI to hdmi (but due to this not being able to display a different aspect ratio properly via hdmi than the screen can handle on the 2s) due to the t610/t618 not supporting it suggests at least some of their customers must really want it

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While anbernic didn’t invest in those hacks and just said “3566 supports hdmi so 3566 gets hdmi, t618 doesn’t so t618 doesn’t”

rich plover
#

hdmi is nice on paper for me cuz i have a cap card. in practice i havent ever actually streamed or recorded from a handheld yet lol but its nice to have that option

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so there is some value beyond just multiplayer

subtle mango
#

I've used the HDMI on my Other handhelds for Mario party nights, but those are android handhelds that I've used this on

idle flower
#

Dont even think I care what chip it'll have or cfw, but I know that's not the case with vast majority here

twilit sun
#

could this be an emergency video player? you can keep some movies on it lol

dusty pecan
#

HDMI out is my favorite and most used retro handheld feature, but it's so rarely implemented correctly. With the vast majority of retro handhelds there's always something buggy about the HDMI out, usually incorrect aspect ratios. When it works right (like on the Retroid Pocket 3+) you get a very seamless Nintendo Switch like experience, where you can be playing in handheld mode then just plug in the HDMI cable and instantly you're playing on the TV using the handheld like a wired controller. Then when you unplug the cable it's back to playing in handheld mode.

USB-C display port video out seems to be easier to get right though, and I used it quite a bit on my Odin 2 and now my RP4 Pro.

empty cedar
#

The hdmi out is actually what won me over on the 35xx vs the mm+

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I've consolized my 35xx at my desk it's pretty cool

dawn stream
#

I don't see much point with it since I have a hacked Switch

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the switch is simply better at that sort of stuff. The Switch's Retroarch version seamlessly uses the paired controls and their order.

wide trellis
#

I never got NES to emulate well on my Switch for most games sadly... very sadly as i have the official NES controllers and everything

ripe nacelle
#

😐

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Really??

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You can emulate nes on a potato

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There's probably a video guide on it somewhere

dusty pecan
#

even NDS can emulate NES fine

wide trellis
#

Things like Megaman just seem unplayable

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Castlevania sprites just flash etc

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GBA or SNES would run perfectly but NES always got some issues for me

dawn stream
#

That's really weird.
Maybe you got the wrong core configured.

vivid crater
pale gyro
#

Even my ipod can do NES

ripe nacelle
vivid crater
pale gyro
full trench
#

WHEN dammit

chilly thicket
#

hilarious that anbernic is gonna win this race...

full trench
jaunty storm
#

so I take it no news yet

dark oracle
#

GoGameGeek announced a date range and will be shipping unit(s) to RH media as soon as they get pre-sale stock

keen shore
#

21-25? Do i remember correctly?

dark oracle
keen shore
#

Just found it yeah

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Im freaking out

golden hazel
#

the 35xx sp mm flip arms race is in full effect...

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idk which I want more 😭

#

mm cfw will probably be slower... as long as anbernic doesn't fuck the controls I'll probably be an anbernic andrew

empty inlet
#

People that hate sticks will get the 35XX SP, most other people will get the Miyoo flip

dark oracle
#

I'm sure both will have decent CFW options so yeah that's pretty much what it boils down to

#

you either want sticks or you don't

golden hazel
#

i like both!!

dark oracle
#

then buy both doggylol

golden hazel
#

LOL maybe... but probably not

jolly sequoia
#

Wait for reviews for both 😄

golden hazel
#

i'm starting to become a steam deck emulation enjoyer for anything stick related and find myself only using the sticks on my 353v for one handed gba rpgs

empty inlet
#

The hinge of the 35XX SP does look more sturdy

golden hazel
#

plus i think minui on a gba sp style handheld would be sweet

golden hazel
#

it looks pretty freakin solid

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i also prefer the anbernic gundam ass logo to the miyoo circle

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names like anbernic and miyoo just sound like cheap chinese knockoff companies so i think not having that on the device in big giant text is kinda good for optics

lilac heart
# keen shore

Just a fake rumor! Nothing to get too hyped about 😉

dark oracle
#

even if you don't believe that date, at the very least media units are coming

dusty pecan
#

prove me wrong, otherwise

radiant burrow
golden hazel
#

the design of the 35xx sp looks like it copies the ideas from the original sp and ds lines

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which should have an internal metal gear rod thing

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so the load isnt on the plastic but rather on the mechanism

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leads to floppiness before fracture

radiant burrow
#

True. But we don't really know how any of the 3 clams will hold up. Hopefully they last for at least the 6 months people will use them.

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Before something new comes out and these sit in a drawer lol

golden hazel
#

yeahhhh

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i think 35xx sp could just be the modded gba i've always wanted + more so itll probably be a mainstay

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if its good ofc

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but i definitely think the doo8 will be a common occurence in the sell channel

radiant burrow
#

I'm more weary of any anbernic devices anymore. Their fw is shit and they don't like making it easy on the community anymore. Lol

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Hopeful for the miyoo as I love their previous 2 outings. The doob...who knows lol

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Love the sliders though

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Wish a company would adopt the retroid sliders into their design

golden hazel
#

the plus and the 556 were definitely a step back but if this is just a 35xx in a fun new form factor i have a feeling that we will see some of the simple reliable cfws get ported over quick and easy

golden hazel
radiant burrow
#

I didn't have problems with my sliders. Luckily.

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Nor my hinge. But I had watermelon. So I wasn't worried.

timber haven
#

Hopefully one or both of them will have the sense to just use off the shelf aftermarket sp/ds hinges, why reinvent the wheel? Then it's just a matter of making the plastic strong enough

lilac heart
pale gyro
vocal grove
dawn stream
#

The 35XXSP will actually release

chilly thicket
#

This might too someday

radiant burrow
#

Case in point. Switch lite. I can't be bothered to play anything that needs abxy because the stick is in the way. It's a me problem. But that's why.

dawn stream
#

Remove the right stick, use gyro to aim.

proven jay
vocal grove
timber haven
#

I'd still rather them use that space for a bigger battery & speakers in the front, uncomfortable mediocre n64 emulation doesn't sound all that appealing, at least the 35xx sp will be an option

chilly thicket
#

This has front firing speakers already

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I’m very curious on battery size for this and the anbernic

timber haven
#

I meant stereo, which neither have for some reason

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Thought they would have crammed them in the 35xx at least, plenty of room

chilly thicket
#

Would you really get a stereo effect when the speakers are two inches apart?

timber haven
#

Some is better than none

proven jay
magic lava
chilly thicket
#

the PS I agree, the a30 almost makes it look kinda arcade-y but at the same time I'm on team 'don't use an analog stick as an arcade stick'

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I wish the a30 just had a sega style dpad instead of a nintendo style and a stick

vocal grove
vocal grove
chilly thicket
#

Y’all need Jesus ape escape

timber haven
vocal grove
#

Have the sticks for people who want to use them

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you dont have to use them even if they are there

timber haven
#

See again #1101304832276562012 message

chilly thicket
timber haven
#

And only a handful of games use the dualshock

marsh kindle
#

I don't like the sticks but I like the light up logo on the anbernic less

vocal grove
#

amen🙏

timber haven
#

I don't hate it, but hopefully it's not like the old macbooks & can be turned off

marsh kindle
#

Yeah, definitely

vocal grove
#

This device seems thinner than the anbernic one

chilly thicket
#

maybe a little

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the anbernic one didn't look much thicker than a gba sp in its vids

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this is about the same, maybe a hair thinner

subtle mango
dusty pecan
#

I'm just wondering how long it'll be before Retroid and Powkiddy roll out their own new clamshell devices. Clamshells definitely seem to be the thing in 2024. ^_^

subtle mango
#

My wallet is scared

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If retroid releases a flip 2 with high end specs I'm done for

vocal grove
#

im ready but my wallet isnt

dusty pecan
#

I'm probably just going to hold off on picking up any of the new clamshells until either the Miyoo Flip gets OnionOS or Retroid releases the Flip 2. I'm not really digging any of the 35XX Plus CFW yet but I do like OnionOS, and Retroid's Android builds have always been perfect right out of the box for me. Cool new hardware is nice, but good software is what really makes a device a keeper.

rough breach
#

the miyoo flip has an rk3566 right?

rough breach
#

225 dollars has never left my wallet so fast

worthy kettle
chilly thicket
#

powkiddy is supposedly making an x18s successor this year

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no clue what SoC but fixed controls and better than t618

rough breach
#

I feel like a new x18s just needs to be smaller

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its like too big

chilly thicket
#

looks like a nice size to me tbh

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I just hope they bring back the beige colour shell and the controls are good

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not that much bigger of a footprint than the 353m

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(credit to RGC's x18s review for the pic)

jolly sequoia
# chilly thicket Ps1 had sticks…

A vast majority of original PS1 controllers didn't had any joysticks. However I just launched my old Playstation and… that was a pain in the ass to control characters in a 3D space 😄

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I personnally don't mind the Flip having sticks, would be lovely to play some PS1/N64 games with it

night raven
#

I mean the d-pad was invented by gunpei yokoi as a way to control 2D characters, it was never meant for 3D environments

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In the same way that an analog stick is terrible for 2D games, they complement each other

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The number of PS1 and N64 games that play and control way way better with analog sticks is numerous

#

Wanting a GBA SP device to only play 8-bit and 16-bit games as well as GBA obviously, is totally valid. I think wanting it to play PS1, N64 and Dreamcast is also equally as valid. I guess the people have shown there's a market for a cheaper stickless model with less performance chip and a more expensive model with sticks with a little bit more performance.

keen shore
#

Please tell miyoo to hire you

last orchid
#

Curious about anbernic sp too, but I don't really like their dpad/buttons, to me they always feel stiff...

dusty pecan
lofty cedar
#

Not a fan of sticks on such a device as they will be so cramped and the device will be unbalanced when trying to use them, best case scenario is they are recessed enough to be ignored outside of using them as hotkeys

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Buy or not for me will come down to the reviews of the hinges though, if a company gets that wrong then the device is useless regardless of anything else

late field
# keen shore

Flip releases first? Weird considering when you ask them they almost always say that the a30 comes first

timber spindle
#

^

rough breach
#

So the miyoo flip is just an rg353v but flips open right?

keen shore
radiant burrow
#

They say all sorts of crap to whoever asks just so they stop asking lol.

vocal grove
#

They should just put out something official at this point if they’re serious about the device

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Not necessarily a release date

rotund ember
#

I mean, like it or not, that AliExpress customer support is their announcement channel

#

MM+ was announced through that, no other announcement was made

last orchid
vocal grove
#

Any news?

subtle mango
#

Nope

#

My suggestion at the moment is to let it cook and go get a burger from a local joint with some extra crispy fries

dusty pecan
#

And onion rings.

onyx minnow
#

Make sure that burger has a healthy amount of Miyoonnaise

subtle mango
delicate cloud
subtle mango
#

Hopefully they give us a price range for these devices soon

dawn bone
#

Hopefully they release these devices soon

minor burrow
#

Hopefully they release devices

pale gyro
#

Hopefully, Hopefully

twilit sun
twilit ledge
#

I hope that hope is not fake as she is

lofty cedar
#

perhaps it can be a new hope

pale gyro
minor burrow
pale gyro
#

This is the only soccer player that gives me hope.

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marsh kindle
# minor burrow Did you mean her?

Completely off topic but meeting this lady is my one celebrity interaction. I used to work at a bank and she came in and made a withdrawal. Had no idea who she was but my co-workers filled me in later

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I was just like, "huh, what a cool name."

night raven
#

Yeah but it's women's soccer, so does she really count as a celebrity? Kidding kidding

lilac heart
#

Guys don't forget that Miyoo spent two years making the A30 😉

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Which means the Mini Flip will be released in two years and not two months 😉

vocal grove
#

Were close to a year of this thread being open

lofty cedar
#

A year ago miyoo couldn't even keep the mm in stock so at least things have progressed since then as with the v4 display they actually seem to have realised availability is important for a product

abstract mulch
#

#p60 #gonebutnotforgotten

rich plover
#

i would have bought a p60 so hard if it came out reasonably close to when it was first announced

chilly thicket
#

I’d buy one today if the price reflected its performance in the current landscape

subtle mango
#

so it'd be like $90-ish

chilly thicket
#

yeah like rp1s tier

subtle mango
#

$90 for a really great PSP and GBA device running android would be dope

chilly thicket
#

still waiting for an actually good flat pocketable psp handheld lol

subtle mango
#

someday

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I mean for me it'd be just juice up the RGB10 to crazy town and I'd be set but you have different ideas

timber spindle
#

Dual Screen mini flip when

subtle mango
#

You're late

timber spindle
#

huh

hasty fiber
#

Do we have any pictures of the shoulder buttons? The rg 35xx sp ones look terrible

subtle mango
#

they're probably gonna be like the V90s

timber spindle
subtle mango
#

Yeah I'll be getting all the clamshells that come out if possible

timber spindle
#

with D1200 when

subtle mango
#

especially if it's got a much better cooling solution

timber spindle
subtle mango
#

we gotta get the first flip before they can make a second one with a second screen

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I still need to get a V90

worthy kettle
#

maybe a trimUI flip could follow next year

timber spindle
#

over all the others

subtle mango
#

hopefully they balance the chipset with the screen this time

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though I'm sure these new clamshells are gonna be S tier pocket daily handhelds

worthy kettle
#

i also kinda want to grab all the clamshells, at least the cheaper ones

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not the retroid one

timber spindle
subtle mango
#

I was more just referring to the ooFest that happened with the Smart Pro

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they gave it a great wide screen and it had I think worse performance on PSP than 3326 devices

timber spindle
#

yea that kinda dumb

subtle mango
#

if they used that same chipset for the clamshell it'd be alright-ish depending on price

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I bet Anbernic is gonna use the H700 for theirs and IDK about Miyoo

timber spindle
#

but not dual screen

twilit sun
#

I think dual screen is too niche and would put them a niche pricepoint too. They could corner the market but if its a small % then its hard to justify. 3ds emulation exists, its not like thered be only one option.

pale gyro
#

If you really want a dual screen system the Microsoft Duo is out there. Works great

golden hazel
#

or buy a fuckin 3DS lol

pale gyro
#

3DS with those TFT screens. Hard pass

subtle mango
#

at this point you take what you can get

#

you could also buy an IPS modded one

golden hazel
elfin patrol
lofty cedar
#

It seems like it is niche enough that we'd probably be waiting long enough that flexible screens drop low enough in price to be an option that would replicate the dual screen option

teal compass
vocal grove
#

Good to know but we should probably stop pestering the customer support

radiant burrow
#

But...people like wasting the time of customer support with stupid inquiries. 🤔

ocean sage
#

they literally have no other communication channel

night raven
#

Asking when their device is coming out is not a stupid question and they're being paid to answer stupid questions anyways, that's their entire job

lofty cedar
#

it is a stupid question since they would be sacked for admitting anything about unannounced devices so you are just wasting your time and theirs for no benefit

torn marsh
#

Personally I think they give random answers just to troll people

subtle mango
#

if I was in their shoes I'd do the same

timber spindle
#

and its not linux

opaque breach
#

As of now, 3DS being emulated is still not an ideal "experience" if you tell me

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If I get a powerful emulation handheld I'd NEVER emulate 3DS on it long term

empty cedar
#

With all the different answers that have been given more people really need to get on the "we'll get it when we get it" mentality

#

Like I get being excited but nothing productive comes from bugging customer support about something they probably aren't allowed to give info on

opaque breach
#

Absolutely

vocal grove
subtle mango
#

the 3DS?

vivid crater
vocal grove
flat ginkgo
#

Neat first attempt but that form factor ain't it. Bottom screen is way too far away from the top screen.

subtle mango
#

also really damn expensive

vivid crater
#

Surface Duo option is cheaper, but less upscaling

#

You could also see if any controllers have a slider for the full 3ds experience

subtle mango
#

there's also the LG phones that had the dual screen cases

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idk where that sits in the priceline but it's an option

vivid crater
#

Or just get any X86 and a portable monitor for a janky set up doggylol

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timber haven
subtle mango
#

I remember wanting the velvet when it was first shown off

timber haven
#

It was surprisingly nice for a midranger

subtle mango
#

too bad LG couldn't fix their software to compete

timber haven
#

Yep, one of my main complaints about the dual screen setup

subtle mango
#

I had a Stylo 6 and the software made that phone from something that should've rocked to something that sucked

pale gyro
pale gyro
magic lava
subtle flame
delicate cloud
#

Anyone know if the miyoo flip will have a wrist strap hole?

vivid crater
vivid crater
lofty cedar
#

The ally is perfectly fine on its own though, adding an external monitor later is a bonus that benefit all your handhelds and pc

#

obviously if you are intent on hacking together a dualscreen model that is another matter

subtle flame
timber spindle
#

gawd they need to NEVER do this "New" model thing again

#

i need to buy a "New" 3ds
oh you mean a new one?
No, the "new" model
yea so a new unused one?
nah, the refreshed model, called "new" 3ds
oh ok, did you need the "new" one
no i dont need a new one, good condition is fine
then get this one, its good conditioned
but this isnt the "new" model

wispy heart
#

I Don't Know
third base!

timber spindle
#

oh i cannot wait for the "new" switch

hasty fiber
torn marsh
#

Guys I'm so desperate for new info, someone go annoy the cs agent again

rotund ember
#

I wonder how many questions about the Flip did they have to answer over the past year

radiant burrow
radiant burrow
chilly thicket
#

None of these handhelds are good at launch and you aren’t going to miss them

radiant burrow
#

Right, it won't be a secret that everyone is keeping from you and none of them come with great software out of the box. Be patient. I'm really glad my life isn't devoid of substance beyond the newest device release.

rotund ember
#

I wouldn't be that sure the man was completely serious

radiant burrow
#

Agree, but there's always someone who is lol

#

They are never serious either, when someone comments about it 😅

torn marsh
#

I can't keep on living without new flip info 😭

lofty cedar
#

My life is not dependent of new handhelds, the full season of Fallout was just released by amazon. 😄

torn marsh
#

I wish AAA games were still good and I could look forward to the new ones

lofty cedar
#

You do get some exceptions that work at launch and don't have predatory monetisation, but waiting six months seems so much more sensible with most of them

worthy kettle
#

especially when you can get them for 50% off at the same time

chilly thicket
#

They get both better and cheaper the longer you wait lol

lofty cedar
#

back when cyberpunk was still get caned for the launch, I actually managed to nab the gog version for just over £10

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First major update was only a few weeks after that too. 😄

worthy kettle
#

yeah, i'm not willing to bet 60+€ on a game i may not even like

lofty cedar
#

Only games I have bought at launch for a while have been wonderlands, diablo 4 and bg3, out of those the basegame of the first was great but the dlc was sucky, d4 has stumbled but I have more than got my money's worth out of it and bg3 was known to be solid due to several years of early access

chilly thicket
#

I bought armored core 6 at launch and that was fine, bought starfield at launch and that worked ok but was boring, bought age of wonders 4 at launch as a long time fan of the series and that was fine but it’s a better game today so I should’ve waited

vocal grove
chilly thicket
#

Indie games are where it’s at

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Rimworld, dead cells, stardew valley, hades, transistor, factorio, rhythm doctor, disco elysium…

dusty pecan
#

I really want a flip too. I love the idea of just carrying it naked in my pocket, no case, nothing and have it ready to go in a second to play some tetris dx

#

It definitely seems like the ideal handheld for maximum portability

#

Not that i wouldnt go with a clamshell by another company, but miyoo has been fairly good about build quality

twilit sun
#

I think a rugged clamshell makes a lot of sense. Portable and self protective, whats missing?
Like some water and dust resistance, can survive a fall etc

dusty pecan
#

That would be sweet, would probably move it out of the pricerange where id carry it naked tho

#

😅

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Having a cheap and capable clamshell really would appeal to me, cause i didnt feel the constant need to carefully look after its condition

#

Makes it more of a "tool" to fit any occasion than a "collectible" you know?

twilit sun
#

As for games to try. Shadow Tactics Blades of the Shogun is a lot of fun and usually cheap, also has a demo. And there are other games of that type, newer and older

dusty pecan
#

is the flippy boy now purchaseable?

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i waited nearly 8 hours, thats more than enough patience -.-

rotund ember
dusty pecan
#

nooooooo 😭

#

typical miyoo, ALWAYS sold out 🙄

rotund ember
#

Thank god I managed to grab my indigo one, had to stay up for three nights for that

dusty pecan
#

😭

#

now youre really scaring me, thats way to close to what the launch will actually be like

#

hitting f5 for two minutes, not even seeing the store page, store finally loads aaaand... sold out

vivid crater
#

It's not like you would want to be part of the first batch anyhow. QA issues on a clamshell from a company that has never made a clamshell.....good luck.

dusty pecan
#

true, historically all miyoo first batches were slightly problematic

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v2 usually being the best ones

#

thanks! now i feel less bad ; 3

vivid crater
#

Miyoo, and everyone else 😄

Everyone loves Retroid, but the 4 Pro, Flip and RP3 all had a first batch that were pretty broken.

#

Personally, unless it's a great deal with money off for preorders, I'd always wait at least 3 months.

There is really no rush. Takes that long for the firmware to even start being good/not buggy in most cases, even if the QA lottery was fine.

#

4 years later, and the V90 is STILL getting firmware improvements doggylol

Not sure I'd recommend waiting 4 years though.

#

Safer with Android on the firmware side, but that can still be buggy on launch

dusty pecan
#

most devices, sadly, dont get so large a following... but with miyoo weve been getting lucky a lot tho

#

usually great cfw

winged bear
#

i still think the 35xx series has sold more

vivid crater
vivid crater
dusty pecan
#

my gut feeling says that the flip will be pretty great

winged bear
dusty pecan
#

nothing super powerful or fancy, but the perfect pocket handheld for playing at a bus stop

winged bear
#

yeah i definitely want something i can chuck into my pockets or backpack without having to care about screens or sticks

dusty pecan
#

exactly!

winged bear
#

as long as it can play gba and snes, maybe ds, more than enough

dusty pecan
#

i dont need another collectible, i just need something to always have ready

winged bear
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the 35xxSP will probably have the H700 and if it gets batocera from day one, i think it will get a head start

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unless the flip already has onion os working

dusty pecan
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when will the flippy anbernic release?

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and what do we know about the "D-008 SZDIIER"

vivid crater
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I think someone said the D008 was probably cancelled now

dusty pecan
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oh okay, damn

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which will deliver the most powerful soc?

winged bear
vivid crater
dusty pecan
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mmmh... probably both will emulate the same systems then??

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can the rk3566 do saturn well?

vivid crater
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Pretty much the same systems, yeah.

Saturn....not really. Sort of the easier half of the catalogue I guess.

Saturn is weird though. An RP2S can do the vast majority of games, but my Pocket Air is vastly more powerful, and still can't do every single one.

dusty pecan
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yeah,,, always such a shame that that one is so complicated to emulate

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it would be a way more powerful platform if emulating it was easier

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so many awesome titles on that system

vivid crater
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Most games you want to play on it are sort of fine on the RP2S. I think Sega Rally is the only popular game that struggles.

No-one really needs to play die hard on the saturn doggylol

dusty pecan
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heh, didnt diehard release on ps1 as well?

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id love to have a pocket-friendly way to play symphony of the night saturn english translation

vivid crater
dusty pecan
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oh, theres plenty outside that 20... just a lot of it not yet fantranslated -.-

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quite possibly the best bomberman ever, too

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and clockwork knight 2 contains ALL of clockwork knight 1

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😊

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thats a pretty great offer

vivid crater
dusty pecan
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yeeep

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great singleplayer on that one too!

vivid crater
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Yeah, people love nights and panzer dragoon, but there is loads more.

dusty pecan
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i actually like neo nomberman on the neogeo and saturn bomberman on the saturn equally

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both insanely gorgeous and fun

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plus, the kojima visual novels

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policenauts on saturn is the best version

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and, even if people violently disagree online... symphony of the night on saturn IS the best version since it got translated, had issues fixed etc

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same awesome game + more content!

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higher resolution on saturn too iirc

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🤔

vivid crater
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Saturn also tended to get much better frame rates than playstation and N64.

Less of an issue with emulation now, but a big deal back in the day

dusty pecan
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a real 2d powerhouse, shame people back then just couldnt see how awesome it was

vivid crater
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Saturn success is super regional. It's actually sega's most successful console on Japan. Although the others didn't do amazingly well compared to Sony and Nintendo.

In the UK it was heavily marketed, but didn't sell a tenth of what the Mega Drive/Genesis sold.

Sega didn't help themselves. Should have released one of the 32x/Mega CD/Saturn, or sold the 32x/mega CD as a bundle. And it was awful to develop for.

Also, adjusted for inflation, it was, uhh, a lot. And came down quickly just to annoy the biggest fans that bought early.

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Great launch day catalogue of games though.

Clockwork Knight, Daytona USA, Panzer Dragoon, Pebble Beach Golf Links, Virtua Fighter, and Worldwide Soccer: Sega International Victory Goal Edition.

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4 flat out classics available on day 1

dusty pecan
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i really hope the panzer dragoon remake will eventually become a new series of titles more like panzer dragoon saga

rotund ember
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For me the biggest problem with Saturn was more compatibility than speed, actually

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On RK3566 or T618 you have to use Yaba Sanshiro, and it just can’t run certain titles and has glitches in others

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Beetle runs Saturn much better, but it basically needs a PS2-capable chip

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Which is a shame, since Saturn has quite a few cool 2D games that would work well on a small device

vivid crater
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There's a reason Yaba is called what it's called 😄

rotund ember
dusty pecan
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saturn
2d powerhouse
if only https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wckIE-XNgvM

YouTube
Saturn Memories
Shenmue: Saturn Version [HD] [1080p]

Before Dreamcast, Shenmue was slated for release on the Sega Saturn. This footage, included as an extra within Shenmue II, demonstrates what the game was like running on 32-bit hardware.

Buy It Now!

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but yeah, saturn emulation is wonky, only mednafen saturn is worth anything

vivid crater
dusty pecan
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SSF is windows only (and meh), yabause/sanshiro/kronos is even worse, cassini and girigiri are outdated

rotund ember
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Haven’t even heard about the last two

dusty pecan
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giri giri was most likely the very first saturn emulator https://segaretro.org/GiriGiri

Sega Retro
GiriGiri

GiriGiri is a Sega Saturn emulator for Windows, developed by Japanese programmer Shinya "MegaDeath" Miyamoto. Initially a freeware program that worked only with the Japanese version of Windows 98, the developer released "debugger" beta versions up until 0.6a in early 2001. Debugger version 0.9 and the full GiriGiri Saturn emulator were announced...

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it died when sega hired the dev

rotund ember
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Ah, it’s 20 years old. Yeah, way before my time 🙂

dusty pecan
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sad saturn was one hell to program and later, emulate

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2 CPUs, 2 VDPs, dedicated CPU for sound chip, dedicated CPU for CD drive...

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no decent SDKs

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"Third-party development was initially hindered by the lack of useful software libraries and development tools, requiring developers to use assembly language. During early Saturn development, programming in assembly had a speed increase of two to five times above higher-level languages such as C."

dusty pecan
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are you implying that is... 2d?

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or are you implying its better at 3d than 2d?

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its really better at 2d

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i dont understand

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it was AT FIRST designed for 2D, then the second VDP got added to provide 3D support

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what does any of that have to do with iron?

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it wasnt designed to be as good with 3D as PS1, but it can still render 3D well enough

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true, but most of the most impressive titles in my mind tend to be 2d

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something it was vastly superior at than ps1 or n64

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welll yeah, PS1 and N64 didnt have dedicated 2D capabilities, while saturn's VDP1 was just that - a 2D accelerator

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heck yeah!

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this allowed for amazing 2D games (and better texture mapping capabilities!)

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hey rk3566, youre gonna be featured in the miyoo flip, right?

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so it was fine with 3D, but: 1. it was horror to develop for
2. it worked on squares and not triangles
3. allegedly sprites were involved in 3D rendering, which was a VERY bad idea

dusty pecan
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im sure it will ❤️

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cant wait to see your latest project ; 3

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no touchscreen and 4:3 = no DS, even though 3566 is more than powerful to handle DS emu, N64 will be wonky, Saturn will be ughhhh

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oh well I wonder how (in)playbale Megha Man X4 is on R36S

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great for gba and ps1 tho

rotund ember
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DC is kinda shaky on rk3566, at least for the titles I tried, like REZ or Rent-a-hero

dusty pecan
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i just wish wed finally see some more performance in the low end, pocketable format

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i was kinda hoping to see saturn run well on those in 2024, but guess not

rotund ember
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REZ is playable but does get slow in transitions between levels or when there are too many enemies onscreen

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Such an awesome game though

dusty pecan
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wish anbernic realized RG353 series are irrelevant (since 3566 is just a bit stronger than H700) and made something new for 90 USD market

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i wish wed get a small form factor, maybe even clamshell, with a snapdragon 860, 865 or 870

rotund ember
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RG503 with T610 would have been cool

dusty pecan
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but even if they could get these chips, no one would ever put them in something that pocketable

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or RG Arc PRO

rotund ember
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Like a smaller PSP device

rotund ember
dusty pecan
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no new rockchips?

rotund ember
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Not in the RK3566 range, no

dusty pecan
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damn

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there are new rockchips but they are too young

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how about amlogic though?

rotund ember
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I’m curious about S905X5 (has new A510 cores), but AFAIK Amlogic doesn’t really bother with Android or Linux, that’s why it took S922X/A311D such a long time

dusty pecan
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its crazy to me that were still emulating all the same systems that we did with the gcw zero

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really not that much has changed there

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and gcw zero was like 3x weaker than 3566

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also damn Saturn MMX4 is full playable on RK3326, although with frameskip

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mmx4?

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oh mega man

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thats cool

rotund ember
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I do think for up to PSX RK3566 is kind of a milestone, you get decent cores for all those systems, rewind on everything, not to mention smaller QoL improvements like NukedOPL3 on Genesis, runahead, various shaders, etc

dusty pecan
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true

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i just wish way more had changed since the gcw zero released in 2013, you know?

rotund ember
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Yeah, basically I wish good DC/PSP became the norm for these handhelds

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So we need more stuff like RP2S

dusty pecan
dusty pecan
rotund ember
dusty pecan
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😋

dusty pecan
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wrt mid range handheld SoCs: how about UNISOC T606?

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its slightly weaker than T610

night raven
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I know it's hard but you got to contain the fomo

chilly thicket
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Batch one of most western company devices suck too

night raven
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You're not wrong

chilly thicket
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Always better to get the second revision, the mid cycle refresh, etc whether it’s cars, laptops, phones…

night raven
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The difficult / impossible to return process just exacerbates the issue

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I agree that sending out units with hardware faults is unacceptable and complete bullshit. That being said though the rp4 was handled about as well as could be. They shipped out the back plate as soon as you inquired about it and it's as simple as unscrewing the back and screwing in the new back, even tech illiterate people could do it

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What I really have a problem with is when they expect you to go into the guts of the device and detach ribbon cables and shit. Most people do not want to do that

chilly thicket
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yeah that's an unacceptable thing to have to do for a brand new device

lofty cedar
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hardly just devices, look at new software too

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Always about the gamble that it saves them more money from a few more complaints than doing it right properly first time

shadow star
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Maybe that’s why the cheap devices sell the best, because it’s easy and affordable enough to buy another one if it fails 😅

opaque breach
twilit sun
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like with the v90? did powkiddy say you have to do that?

dusty pecan
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😓

soft geode
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Here's to hoping reviewers have advanced copies and drop their reviews day0

lofty cedar
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big question won't be answered by day 1 anyway, how well will the hings hold up

night raven
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I think if you're going to gamble and buy a wave one device, it's best to do it on a cheaper one like this. That being said I'm still probably going to wait two or three months

dusty pecan
vocal grove
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Likely under 100$

lofty cedar
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given the current market, you'd hope that they managed at least to get to sub $80

modern delta
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I was thinking $75-$80

lofty cedar
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ideally lower than that even, anbernic managed to get the arc out for under $80 last year including a 4" display using the purported chipset on this flip

topaz swift
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I dont mind paying slightly more for better software support

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like miyoo helping out with getting sonic mania ported to the miyoo mini

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also thats only the launch price, there are always frequent sales on the miyoo mini and rg35xx series

dawn bone
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True

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Though the mini has been out for quite a while now

shadow star
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You think the port list will get even better with the Flip if the rumors of a 3566 are true?

lofty cedar
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Will it be better software support though, this won't be getting onion anytime soom which is the biggest reason people like miyoo

topaz swift
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yeah porting over onion will take a while

subtle mango
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but potentially that'd mean we have onion on other RK3566 devices

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and the RK2023 with Onion sounds wonderful

night raven
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I would guess anywhere from $50 on the low end to $80 on the high end. I'm guessing this will be around $70 probably.

ripe nacelle
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This will have Bluetooth right?

subtle mango
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Not confirmed tmk

ripe nacelle
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Bluetooth would be heavenly

soft geode
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wifi for sure, bluetooth maybe

subtle mango
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Wifi I would hope for, bluetooth is a bonus

rough breach
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like come on y'all coulda made it a bit bigger

radiant burrow
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Not for the measly price of your first born they couldn't. 😅

pulsar reef
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No Onion no Party

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🧅

subtle mango
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this would be the best chance for onion to be put on to a more interesting chipset

opaque breach
# subtle mango this would be the best chance for onion to be put on to a more interesting chips...

The CFW dynamics might turn out to be more interesting than anticipated
It's still a single-card handheld, which means like the current Miyoo Mini, or the comparable GKD Mini line, the firmware will be on a dedicated internal flash chip. The custom firmware route will probably not go far. Remember, OnionOS is a launcher/UI suite/app suite, and doesn't fundamentally change the underlying firmware. Someone might expect some sort of EmulationStation suite on here, but that mostly lives on a bootable SD card.

vivid crater
winged bear
vivid crater
winged bear
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yeah, 960x640

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wonder if someone could use that to make an actual 351p successor

vivid crater
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More seriously, they may have done 3:2 as a compromise between the 4:3 3DS and 16:9 Wii U pad screen.

Although, at a little over 6 inches and 16:9, the Wii U pad screen will be a lot smaller on the Ayaneo flip.

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chilly thicket
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The only exceptions coming to mind are things like Mario party which you probably wouldn’t be playing on a clamshell not hooked up to a tv anyway

dusty pecan
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im still hoping they can make it

dark oracle
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not looking likely anymore as a30 launch has been prioritized

dusty pecan
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uuuurgh

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what a poor choice

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thats not gonna sell anywhere as much as flip would

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miyoo what are you thinking?

dark oracle
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they're thinking it's better to get the handheld less people want out first

dusty pecan
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sure seems like it

dark oracle
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tbh I would've wanted the a30 too... if it had a headphone jack

timid vector
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It might not be that simple. Could be that flip just isn't far enough along, they're having manufacturing issues, etc. The most important thing is that they don't rush it and botch it

dusty pecan
keen shard
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Same here really trying to hold out for the miyoo or Anbernic clams but the 28xx is looking mighty tempting right now

dusty pecan
# keen shard Same here really trying to hold out for the miyoo or Anbernic clams but the 28xx...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XifWAWAZwfU

YouTube
Retro Pocket
Anbernic RG 28XX Retro Handheld Explored - Release Date, Price, OS,...

Calling all retro gamers! The Anbernic RG28xx might be your next handheld fix. This video dives into everything you need to know about this upcoming device. We'll unveil its rumored release date and explore the estimated price tag. Is it affordable or a pricier option? We'll then crack open the system, examining the operating system it uses an...

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this one?

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have to say, doesnt look all that appealing to me at first glance

keen shard
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I’m a sucker for compact devices. Been rocking a trimuismart for months. Great for everything up to SNES but wouldn’t mind something similar in size that can also play PS1, N64 and PSP

dusty pecan
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n64?

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no analog stick, might be tough getting all buttons mapped

timid vector
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I like the aesthesic and size of the A30. I'd love something running OnionUI that's essentially a fake gameboy micro. I'me open to that anbernic device but I'd just prefer onion support.

dusty pecan
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im not picky, as long as i have basic retroarch im pretty much set

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never been a fan of frontends

timid vector
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I guess I'm the opposite when it comes to handhelds. I want a polished firmware/frontend experience as tuned to the device as possible

dusty pecan
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ive been using RA since the early days, im just so used to the UI

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🤨

vivid crater
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I like the way they censored out the Mario game.

dusty pecan
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heh, wow, i didnt even notice that till you said it ^^;;

ocean sage
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so seems like it's not happening this month

subtle mango
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remember to not hold your breath

timber haven
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#1101304832276562012 message

jolly sequoia
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Oh right, dumb me

soft geode
subtle mango
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the fool

hushed field
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Anyone know what systems the flip will run?

shadow star
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We have no idea because we still don’t know the chip. Rumors a few months back said RK3566 but that could’ve changed,

dusty pecan
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so not particularly impressive, except for its design

radiant burrow
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It's a small screen clam. What would you consider impressive lol

opaque breach
chilly thicket
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clamshell version of the rg556

radiant burrow
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I meant for this small of a form factor flip lol

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We'll get a larger clam one day

vocal grove
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Laptop

opaque breach
vivid crater
# opaque breach I don't know, Retroid Pocket Flip with Dimensity SOC?

Weirdly I sort of feel like the RP flip is my endgame pocketable android device. I mostly just play N64, maybe dreamcast, and below on it, and anything more powerful I want a larger screen anyhow.

An ARM Ayaneo Flip DS with bottom half ergo like the Nvidia Shield is my dream device.

chilly thicket
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And cherry browns

idle peak
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still no release date for the flip?

ripe nacelle
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None that will actually deliver

fickle patrol
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"A delayed clamshell is eventually good, but a rushed clamshell is forever bad"
- Shigeru Miyoomoto

soft geode
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if only the v90 had wifi

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and had better support for snes

subtle mango
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All I need/want is a V90 with the JZ4770 and maybe wifi

ripe nacelle
opaque breach
soft geode
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No way

soft geode
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Nope the USBC port doesn't support data transfer

twilit sun
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I think data over usb is a go for v90.
V90 just needed like 10% more power to be 50% better lol

soft geode
velvet beacon
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I hope it comes this year, this is the one I’m most excited for. Is OnionOS planning to support it, and do the devs work for Miyoo?

opaque breach
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Not sure about how altering the boot chain on the RK3566 works but hopefully ArkOS and RockNix will easily migrate to this thing

subtle mango
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at this point with clamshells it's just wait with $150 saved just in case