#Sein's Tavern

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tardy steeple
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Is the backstory dramatic and riveting?

elfin gulch
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So ok, I quit med and actually planned to study something here in the big city, so I just move out and now trying to live independently here

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Not that much of a backstory, but the point is I need to at least be able to take care of myself

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I'll have to quit any job I have before February anyway

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To decide my life

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So yeah back to my masterplan, find a stable job I can at least do with my set of skills, practice drawing more and do commissions alongside my current job

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Or don't even need to do commissions if my stable job does well

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People keep suggesting me to do something related to English since that's the only thing I'm good at apparently

rapid sluice
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hey sea, got any samples of your art?

elfin gulch
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I made this I think

rapid sluice
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if you do, i'd suggest opening up an instagram for your art ASAP

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instagram, pixiv, twitter, all that

elfin gulch
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This is one, I'm not at the level of opening any of those

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And I lost determination entering med

rapid sluice
elfin gulch
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Again, I'm not at the level, nor do I have enough resources to make them

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(hence why I wanted a drawing pad)

rapid sluice
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and besides, this pattern just means that no matter how good you get, you'll never open an account because you think you're not good enough lmao

elfin gulch
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Apart from it being true cause artists always doubt their art, I need to learn the basics first and need to have an ok consistency of good art

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If I spend like half a month trying, I just too aimless to try now

rapid sluice
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well whatever

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its your life at stake, not mine

elfin gulch
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Yeah I just saw artists with bad art doing commissions and I don't wanna be them

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Still, that's my second concern

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Cause I can still draw doing whatever, problem is how much can I draw

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So I guess that's most things figured except for my romantic life

tardy steeple
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If you're good at English

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You could always go into maaaaaaarketing

elfin gulch
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Does it involve talking with people

tardy steeple
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Tons!

elfin gulch
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I I'm ah shy

tardy steeple
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Sameers

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But you get over it eventually

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Put on makeup and it's like armor

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It helps you be brave

elfin gulch
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Well it is a nice choice I think

tardy steeple
elfin gulch
tardy steeple
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No

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I mean I guess

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Yes

elfin gulch
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Sweet

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I'll get 2

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Thanks for the recommendation, I think I'm qualified for it

keen jungle
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Buh. I feel like shit. I've been a bit of an ass to my pops lately, he's been overly indulged in a project of his, building a miniature motorcycle for himself. Which is admittedly cool. I try to give interest and talk to him about it all, and it's almost like talking to a wall. Yeah, a few things get through.. iunno. He's strange.
That said, he's just.. odd. 60 with the mentality of a 12 year old. It's hard to conversate with him. I get shitty and snappy too often, and now just recently I'm finding out he's building it to gift to me because he's like.. gone into remission or something.

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And I just.. iunno. I'm really hating on myself, but I also wish he would just like.. talk to me, be upfront

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anywho

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I've got not so great history with him to begin with. I feel a mess right now

raw lodge
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That's tough

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at lest he doesnt seem like a bad guy, and it sounds like he genuinely cares about you - in his own way

elfin gulch
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Fuck this job
So basically when you work in the retail, you'll have to pay for your own uniforms, study to do their job (which is just you doing what they told you to) and they will fucking charge for it
If you quit after 6 months or less they will require you the teaching fee (which in the time you were learning stuff, you got paid fucking 2 hours worth of money a day even though you worked for 8) and now they charge me ⅓ of my monthly salary

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And while I was learning they told me the fee was way less, ⅓ of that (or somehow I got mixed up 3 and 9 which don't really sound alike)

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I wanna commit theft to them real bad rn

peak bobcat
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my condolences, that really sucks

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wtf you mean teaching fee lmao

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what a scam

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it's a min pay job it isn't rocket science

elfin gulch
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Idk training? They just show me how to do stuff for 5 mins and made me do stuff

elfin gulch
peak bobcat
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yeah I'm saying it's bs

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training should be their responsibility anyways

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if there's anything to train

elfin gulch
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(there isn't)

peak bobcat
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yep, like

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that's a black company

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warn people not to work there

elfin gulch
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Yeah I'm doing it with my 10 friends

peak bobcat
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how is training employee not part of their responsibility that's fucked up

elfin gulch
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Luckily they will never work there cause it pays way less than average convenient stores

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And you work more

peak bobcat
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should've taken that convenience store gig then

elfin gulch
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(I was a masochist)

peak bobcat
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well hope you get a better job

elfin gulch
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But yeah venting ends I'll have to deal with this now thanks that one Macht fan

peak bobcat
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always ready to help

elfin gulch
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Hope you recover from that

peak bobcat
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probably never

rapid sluice
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Sounds like a scam

elfin gulch
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Because it is

raw lodge
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WTF

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That shit is illegal most other places

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Dont Vietnam have labor laws or smth, @elfin gulch ?

elfin gulch
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We do, but I don't know laws

raw lodge
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Law is boring too imo

elfin gulch
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Plus even if it is suing them is too much of a trouble

raw lodge
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yea

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you cant afford that

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and you prob signed a contract too

elfin gulch
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Also it's probably in one of the papers I signed (even though I have read them again and it's pretty cryptic in its own)

raw lodge
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but that whole learning fee is total BS

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Like, thats their fucking duty

elfin gulch
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Yeah, best I can do is tell everyone to avoid it

rapid sluice
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Wait, you guys don't read the fine print?

raw lodge
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Hey! Sea Doesnt, i do!

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You would have thought that Sea had learned from his past mistakes, lol

elfin gulch
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Like they say "you'll have to pay if this happens"
That varies from people to people

rapid sluice
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have you got a copy of the contract?

elfin gulch
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No it's digital contract
I only have a screenshot of it

rapid sluice
raw lodge
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"You are fucked, if you try to quit"

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The so-called fuck you clause

elfin gulch
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"you will be given x money for learning fee, if you don't quit before 6 months that money is yours"

rapid sluice
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ah

raw lodge
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Next time you sign something, you better get someone to give it a look

elfin gulch
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Yeah that should be something I learn

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The least thing I did was just taking screenshots

peak bobcat
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Honestly any “training period” where you are not paid full salary should be illegal

rapid sluice
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^^

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And any job where you pay for training is gtfo territory

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Especially min wage or low skill jobs

elfin gulch
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Noted, thanks (I probably should have known it before)

tardy steeple
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Teaching fees are meant to prevent workers from leaving

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Because they experienced unspeakably high turnover

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Likely due to shit conditions

elfin gulch
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So a sign for me to turn back, thanks

elfin gulch
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Ok this is urgent but
Any tips to uhh talk more with an acquaintance? I'm trying to help my crush to talk with her crush

sweet sundial
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Don't do that

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Playing a Cupid rarely helps

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Just push her to talk with him/her

elfin gulch
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Not trying to, just want some advices to give her

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I don't even know the guy

sweet sundial
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So...

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The advice is

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JUST DO IT

elfin gulch
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Huh nice (which is what I told her anyway)

rapid sluice
elfin gulch
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Technically I'm not in a relationship anyway

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So I'm just doing the friend part, helping

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I probably will get cucked if I ever marry but good news is it's not likely to happen cause I'm self centered

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This shit got a plot twist

rapid sluice
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A murder?

sweet sundial
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Gay twist?

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Love triangle?

rapid sluice
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Transition?

sweet sundial
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Her crush is your landlord?

rapid sluice
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Betrayal?

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Her crush works for the KGB?

sweet sundial
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Sentai appeared?

rapid sluice
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Amogus?

sweet sundial
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Or, no way

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You got actually good job at her crush place

rapid sluice
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She's actually using a fake crush to get you jealous in order to get with you?

sweet sundial
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Now it's your crush, not her

rapid sluice
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Her crush likes you?

sweet sundial
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That's love triangle

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"My crush's current crush ended up being my step-brother and is in love with me?!"

rapid sluice
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"Eh?! My crush, the only classmate that's nice to me, suddenly became my step-sister!"

elfin gulch
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Wow it's a whole other plot twist in here

sweet sundial
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Now tell us the twist

elfin gulch
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But yeah it's some personal stuff that I hope she can get over it (with Bennett Foddy)

peak bobcat
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You guys should start career as writers

sweet sundial
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I never take direct path to success Hikky

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My web novels would be the hottest ones around

rapid sluice
peak bobcat
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That’s not my decision to make

elfin gulch
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Where's that

elfin gulch
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Oh yeah the possibilities of that happening is low now (according to the plot twist)

elfin gulch
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Aight thanks (I already did but hopefully that doesn't affect anything)

sweet sundial
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I like how united we were here

rapid sluice
raw lodge
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no, she's sleeping with her brother

elfin gulch
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What did I miss and have no intent of reading

rapid sluice
keen jungle
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Well fuck

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I am a piece of shit.

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My mom and I had an argument, and I walked off when I should of been helping her

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And she fell off a ladder and probably shattered her ankle

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I am a mess lol

elfin gulch
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So do right now

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Go help her

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Only your by your actions that you don't feel like something that made hozy refused to use the toilet

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My belief is instead of bringing up mistakes, I make worse ones so I can forget about that one

keen jungle
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Oh no worries, I'm helping her get about and doing things for her. She's just.. odd

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Diagnosed bipolar

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And very mean very quick

elfin gulch
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Parents are odd yeah, but also that's just 2 different generations, as long as it's not extreme you just need to be there and better her day

gritty lichen
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So don't blame yourself too much, you're trying your best but it's a lot of burden on your shoulders and sometime we are just human and we snapped

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And imo walking off to disengage from a heating conversation is actually a healthy thing to do, it's just bad luck your mom felt off

keen jungle
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Of course.

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A Poppy would have the answers

keen jungle
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I try to be a strong person, but I've been crying a lot. This means quite a bit to me

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Thank you

rapid sluice
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Its a high stress situation

keen jungle
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I dislike being vulnerable.

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One of the main reasons I can't maintain a healthy partnership lol

raw lodge
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Relateable, i dislike it too

rapid sluice
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Made myself vomit for the first time in a long while

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Doesn't feel good, but brain says otherwise

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C'est la vie

sweet sundial
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Uhh

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Why you did that?

peak bobcat
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Anorexia

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Is a debilitating mental and physical disorder that may severely affect one’s health

sweet sundial
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Yeah, I know what it is

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My cousin suffered from anorexia for few years

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Now she's a dietician

raw lodge
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Wow, what a character arc she's had!

tardy steeple
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I hope you're taking steps to help. I know recovery isn't easy but it's important to not give in and continue recognizing it as unhealthy and bad behavior. @rapid sluice

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Also it's probably bulimia not anorexia. Anorexia is when you don't eat food and are in the gym 24/7. Bulimia is when you throw food up, usually after binging or eating something unhealthy.

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I know tons of people who have dealt with eating disorders, myself included.

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If you ever need someone to help talk you out of bad choices drop me a DM. Can't promise I'll be around 24/7 but I hope you keep trying to be healthy. That means eating regular meals and keeping them down so your body can get the nutrients it needs and build your metabolism. Otherwise you'll end up really struggling in the future.

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It's bad for your teeth and throat too.

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And voice

sweet sundial
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Iris seems like someone with a nice voice, we don't want to lose that

raw lodge
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Have we ever heard Iris' voice?

sweet sundial
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Nope

rapid sluice
tardy steeple
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I know. Recovery is never a straight line

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It's good to know you're recovering.

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Remember to view the big picture and not the small moments.

rapid sluice
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It's a cruel combination, inherent low self esteem resulting in myself having a need to be better than others in everything else; spilling into bulimia; and my wanting to transition

tardy steeple
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Yeah, I understand at least some of it. There's a lot of pressure involved

rapid sluice
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Did you know that the worst part of purging isn't the vomiting itself?

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It's how the acid burns your throat, and the uncontrollable shivering that follows

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The acid causes your eyes to tear up, so you're struggling around with your vision impaired, remnants of everything still dripping from your mouth

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The occasional doubt if a second round is coming, so you can't move yourself

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It's horrible

tardy steeple
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Yeh

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Have this picture of my bunny plush, her name is Happy!

elfin gulch
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It's hard to say something motivating but I know you're better than me Iris

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And uhh that's enough reason to be more hopeful

raw lodge
elfin gulch
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Nothing is worse than anything people have their own problems

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But it's harder if you're me, not like in my situation, but simply me

raw lodge
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Thats what i was agreeing with

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It could have been worse, if she was you FrierenConcerned

elfin gulch
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*she

raw lodge
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Fixed

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But dont be too harsh on yourself, Iris. And focus on doing things that You like and enjoy, that will.at least keep your mind busy and away from harmful thoughts

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And if you dont have anything like that, then try and find em

elfin gulch
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Isn't that like coping with the fact that you can't do anything

raw lodge
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No, its not

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Ofc she shouldnt run from her problems and Iris should confront them head on, cuz only then will she truly start heal amd progress

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Thats what i did when i was in the dumps, and it helped immensely

rapid sluice
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Thanks guys

rapid sluice
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I'm trying really hard to feel good about myself without putting others down

elfin gulch
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It's ok when I do it cause I'm cool

raw lodge
rapid sluice
raw lodge
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We all like to make fun of him, even himself

rapid sluice
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It's not a good idea to put yourself down (unless your ego is so overwhelming)

raw lodge
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It might just be self-deprication

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Which comedians even use

rapid sluice
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Oh of course, but it's kinda hard to find the line sometimes

elfin gulch
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Does self-eccentric count as egotistical

raw lodge
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it just sounds wird

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weird

elfin gulch
raw lodge
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It was just an example

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Like Conan, uses self-deprication a LOT

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and he's my fave talk show host

elfin gulch
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I don't watch show host

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On that note how do people manage their time

raw lodge
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But yeah, i think for it to succeed, it has to NOT be something to deep about you

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Like, dont use self deprecation when its something you're insecure about

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or something along those lines

elfin gulch
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Yeah because then it just feels awkward

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Haha I've never touched someone for 15 years let alone woman

raw lodge
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no worries! You touch yourself all the time!

peak bobcat
elfin gulch
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Dang
I have like 100 stuff I wanna try now on top of my life problems, I blame the accessibility of the Internet

rapid sluice
elfin gulch
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As in managing their time to do stuff I spend a day watching Youtube and then malding about waking up at 4am then sleep til 10

rapid sluice
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If by manage their time, you mean, finish work on time and nothing else, then just do X amount of work within Y number of days, and inevitably rush to do A amount of work in 1 day

raw lodge
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Personally, you need to be very structured and have a plan for how you want your day to progress

elfin gulch
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The later yeah

raw lodge
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Like, what is most important for you to do this day and choose them like that

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But im much more structured than most other people, that i know, so something else entirely might work for you

elfin gulch
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Then I should really get a job before I can finish Yakuza 0 (which I haven't even started)

raw lodge
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Did you move back in with your parents?

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I forgot where we are at in your Saga

elfin gulch
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Yeah
I'm planning to go back to med because I learned society the hard way
But also I will save some money to buy stuff that can help me cope with it in the meantime

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Because the new semester isn't here yet

raw lodge
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I sea

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But idk if that's the best thing to do(going back to med)

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I think you will hate life, and tbh, i dont think you have the determination to continue doing it

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I for sure wouldn't

elfin gulch
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I do now, since when you aren't that determined to leave either
Sure I would prefer doing stuff I can, but I just fucked up really badly that it's hard to just drop it out of the sudden, it happened right to what I feared
I might be dumb, but the worst I can expect most likely will happen to me beside traffic accident

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I almost got killed plenty of times

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Not like close, but close enough

raw lodge
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I, personally, think it'd be better to do something you actually have an interest in and like to

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When you do something just because, it often times doesn't end well

elfin gulch
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I do too, Ace I do too

raw lodge
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But i hope you're the exception

elfin gulch
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But I guess the problem with modern time is you're not facing much hardship it's hard for you to find anything meaningful anymore

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I do have stuff I want to do, but I never tried to do them as soon as possible, that probably shows that I don't have interest in anything

peak bobcat
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That’s not a modern problem that’s an eternal mankind problem

elfin gulch
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Well but if you're at war at least your goal is to help your country not war?

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I wouldn't have a crisis if I struggle everyday for food

peak bobcat
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Like, all quiet on the western front exists

peak bobcat
elfin gulch
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I just realized I bitched for 2 months and a half for not having enough food

peak bobcat
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Reality has proven that even if you have billions of dollars and power above multitudes of mankind, your crises do not end

elfin gulch
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Well yeah, I think it's cool to do med now, I probably didn't try enough, and now that I have another goal at least

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Thanks for the help guys

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I would prefer to deal my crisises with food

rapid sluice
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Amogus syndrome be like:
Do I really want to transition or do I just wanna be a girl because I'm horny

peak bobcat
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But consider

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You can be horny as a man

rapid sluice
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True, but I'd rather be horny as a woman

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The clothes I've looked up and wishlisted are getting sluttier and sluttier

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But like

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Is my wanting to transition because I want to be fucked as a woman? Is it because of pure horny? Or is it because I just appreciate how women look more than men, and in search of being better looking, wanting to emulate that?

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Or is there something deeper? Am I just making all of my issues up as a paper-thin justification for a selfish move?

peak bobcat
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Tho that’s some interesting points

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If you have 1 hours 42 minutes of your life I can suggest this

rapid sluice
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I'll watch it

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It's not as though I've got much going for myself anywags

elfin gulch
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My friend is especially into slutty men

rapid sluice
elfin gulch
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Well it is has Hikari said, you don't want to be horny as man, but as a woman, and that counts

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(sorry I'm not as horny as I show myself to be so I'm clueless about that)

rapid sluice
elfin gulch
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But I know you won't going through all that just because you're horny

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That's like nitpicking if the choices you made were incorrect

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All I'm saying is your horniness doesn't solely mean you are just horny as woman, but because you're a woman that you want to be so

rapid sluice
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Amogus syndrome 😔

elfin gulch
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That's sus

rapid sluice
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😔

rapid sluice
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Also it's insane that this is happening right now

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Right after I met up with a friend and received drugs "to test the waters"

peak bobcat
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U watched the envy vid?

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There’s a part about envying of other women that might be relevant

rapid sluice
elfin gulch
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Hi outside when did you come out

rapid sluice
elfin gulch
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Pretty rar girl

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Rd

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Rad

rapid sluice
peak bobcat
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did you like it?

rapid sluice
rapid sluice
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It's weird that reading 4tran is doing wonders for my spirits

peak bobcat
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Reading what

rapid sluice
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its a subreddit for 4chan screenshots

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and its for that good trans shit

peak bobcat
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4chan FernTheFuck

rapid sluice
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its a hellhole, so anything wholesome is like a glass of water in the deserts of Qatar

raw lodge
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Lmao, 4tran

rapid sluice
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Lmao I told my sister that I wanna transition and she said "sure"

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How is someone 2 years my junior already more supportive than my parents

peak bobcat
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Happens all the time

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Young ppl tend to be more progressive

rapid sluice
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Tough luck for me then

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Either I bring enough arguments to the table and negotiate, or I wait for them to die

peak bobcat
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I mean

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Once you gain independence you do whatever you want

rapid sluice
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But it's gonna be hard to get housing

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Which is where the strategic marriage idea comes in ig

peak bobcat
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Omg

elfin gulch
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Sure

rapid sluice
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OK but

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What if

peak bobcat
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That’s not something I or anyone but you can answer

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Lol

tardy steeple
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AGP is shitty transphobic pseudoscience garbage

rapid sluice
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Time to open up LibGen

sweet sundial
peak bobcat
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He said it!

rapid sluice
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OK but

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Left is public housing

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I can apply for it if I'm married, or if I'm above 35 years old

peak bobcat
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Okay lmao worst case scenario wait til you’re 35

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Though I don’t think you wouldn’t be able to afford any kind of housing by then

sweet sundial
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Isn't there any flat you could've rent with your pay from work?

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Dunno how's the situation in your place

rapid sluice
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God the part where she says that trans women envy other trans women makes so much sense to me now

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It's literally why I had to stop watching PhilosophyTube

peak bobcat
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Wow

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so you’re saying I can recc you pre transition PhilosophyTube

rapid sluice
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I literally couldn't watch her video when she came out

peak bobcat
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I seriously think some of her best videos were from that era, at least in terms of being mindopening

rapid sluice
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Envy also sums up a lot about how I feel about other trans women

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Even if they started at 27, or 32, because they could start

peak bobcat
rapid sluice
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That's the thing

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I don't know if I want women, or if I want to be a woman

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Is it because I want women, that I want to be one?

peak bobcat
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Well if you just want women, you can do that as a man

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Like, chances may be higher that way based on statistics

rapid sluice
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Maybe

rapid sluice
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I hate how jealous I am of the trans women I see online that managed to get it so young, I'm talking like 14 years old young

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That could've been me, should've been me

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Why the fuck isn't it me?

peak bobcat
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Yupp that’s good old envy

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Just gotta stop thinking that way

elfin gulch
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Might be me being a bit skeptical about the lgbt+ community by how I was brought up, but I believe you should only do the trans surgery at the age when you can vote and work, youngsters make mistakes, and I won't be surprised if misgender being one of them

raw lodge
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I also personally think doing it at a very young age, where you are under-developed might give you repercussions

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Just my opnion tho

peak bobcat
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Yeah no because nobody is performing surgery on children

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There are different steps to transition

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Which is irrelevant right now anyways Iris is an adult

elfin gulch
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Just saying! But also you can use fem hormone or smth at early age I think

tardy steeple
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You have to go through several rounds of psychological evaluations and spend a year living as your preferred gender before any doctor will consider you for surgery.

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So the idea that young trans children are getting surgery off the cuff is a bit weird

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Given that you need to see, at minimum, two psychiatrists for evaluation.

tardy steeple
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You're dealing with a lot because your country makes it harder to do specific things.

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I can't stress this enough, the stuff you're saying is like....a direct copy of many of the things I often see in trans support groups. I helped run one for two years and my partner runs a server which has one now too.

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You're not weird or bad for feeling envy. You're not wrong for feeling confused.

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Give yourself time. It gets better. Set goals, work towards them slowly and cut yourself a break.

rapid sluice
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I'm so jealous

tardy steeple
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Yeah, it can be tough.

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Have you thought of moving if possible?

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Could be a long-term goal.

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People and countries being transphobic or homophobic sucks mega super ass. I hope one day trans people aren't politicized to such an extent.

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Until then though, country girls gotta make due. Be smart, pick your battles, and make a plan.

tardy steeple
#

Sprichst du Deutsche?

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Idr if you're the one who has all the fun gun talk but I'd probably tone that down if you're thinking of moving to Germany lol

tardy steeple
#

Yeah, it's exhausting living a lie

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In a world that would punish you for the truth

#

That's why we fight for equal rights. Because it's unfair

rapid sluice
#

That, plus, I know I could just stop everything right now, it's not hard to do

tardy steeple
#

Yeah but

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It's not

#

You can physically stop but like

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Your brain would be like

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Very upsetti spaghetti

rapid sluice
#

Oh no I mean dying

tardy steeple
#

Once the egg cracks it's hard to tape it back together

#

Oh

#

Well

#

Yeah

#

But they would be lame

rapid sluice
#

I can take that L

tardy steeple
#

Let me hit you with a hypothetical

#

It takes you 5-10 years to find a place where you can safely transition and then you transition and are happy.

#

How old are you rn?

rapid sluice
#

2003, so 19

tardy steeple
#

And the average life expectancy is like ... What? 76? Sooooooo

#

Worst case scenario

#

You have like 47 years of happiness

#

Living as your preferred gender

rapid sluice
#

But that's so thoroughly non-ideal

tardy steeple
#

That's if it takes you 10 years to move

#

Yeah

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Not ideal but don't sacrifice 40+ years of happiness for the upfront struggle

#

Find ways to enjoy the small things

#

Work on yourself and your mental health

#

Transitioning is just one part of a whole. The positive habits, the mental health, all the good things you do now

#

Will still be around

#

When you finally get to a safe place where you can transition

rapid sluice
#

We'll see if that's able to hold me back when I end up in the military

tardy steeple
#

Think of the future when struggling through the present. All suffering is temporary just as all joy is. Instead build a strong foundation of centered self peace which will last through it all.

#

And hopefully

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They know not to let you around any guns

#

Given your mental and physical state lol

rapid sluice
#

The government will know nothing about me

tardy steeple
#

Secret agent iris deployed

rapid sluice
#

With how much I lie on the daily?

tardy steeple
rapid sluice
#

But thanks Bepperoni

tardy steeple
#

Happy to help

#

It gets better

rapid sluice
tardy steeple
#

In the mean time

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You can enjoy things like this

#

Beeg strong knight lady

#

Drown sorrows in lesbian romance and fiction

raw lodge
rapid sluice
raw lodge
#

I think that might be too young

peak bobcat
raw lodge
#

But then again, im not too educated on it

raw lodge
peak bobcat
#

who do you think is gonna enforce what's banned on who lol

raw lodge
#

What

peak bobcat
#

not you that's for damn sure

raw lodge
#

Relax with the passive aggressiveness ffs

#

I havent told Iris to not do it

#

But to wait until her situation improves

rapid sluice
rapid sluice
#

I realise in hindsight that my liking of forced feminisation in hentai is probably a sign of my guilt

elfin gulch
rapid sluice
#

I wonder if the reason why I'm buying more 'slutty' clothes is because I'm seeking any sort of validation whether it's lust or other negative responsesv

elfin gulch
#

or you feel comfortable about your femininity and your body unconsciously to go out and acquire more exposing clothes

elfin gulch
rapid sluice
peak bobcat
elfin gulch
#

There are things you can just accept (and cope lol) in order to move on, the whole thing would crumble once you start doubting yourself and it leads to more depression and self-destruction

#

Buy even slutty clothes
Show them body
(Coming from me, a guy with a clothes kink)

peak bobcat
#

I support your statement

#

But clothes kink StarkUnamused

elfin gulch
#

Don't kinkshame me I just like clothes on people

#

Skins ew

peak bobcat
#

You can’t call any inane thing “kink”

elfin gulch
#

But but
I like watching people with clothes

peak bobcat
#

Don’t distract from Iris’s real struggles

elfin gulch
#

(not into slutty stuff, but almost the opposite)

elfin gulch
elfin gulch
rapid sluice
#

Didn't get warded in a psych hospital HUZZAH

tardy steeple
#

I believe in you

rapid sluice
#

I thought I'd be warded LMAO

tardy steeple
#

Define it in this scenario?

#

As in like

#

You're mentally unstable to the point that you lose rights to a guardian?

rapid sluice
#

I saw a psych and told her that I would be the executioner for several volunteers, and then kill myself once I got a gun in military

tardy steeple
#

You should have been warded.

rapid sluice
#

Thank the lord I'm not

tardy steeple
#

Why?

rapid sluice
#

Because if I got warded I'd just kill myself solo LMAO but she said she'll try to ask the military to give me a non-combat position

tardy steeple
#

Are you being forced into the military?

#

Cause you have to serve

#

Kinda thing

#

For the country

rapid sluice
tardy steeple
#

Oof

#

I mean.

rapid sluice
#

Conscription

tardy steeple
#

There are probably easier ways to go for a non-combat position

#

But if it works, it works.

rapid sluice
#

No as in

#

I would rather not serve at all

#

But if I'm gonna have to serve

#

I will be an executioner

tardy steeple
#

By that do you mean just

#

You'll murder other people for no apparent raisin

#

Cause

#

That's pretty edgy

#

And also not based.

rapid sluice
#

I mean

#

I've gotten in contact with a depressed guy who's too scared to pull the trigger

peak bobcat
#

Oh yeah that’s just Iris’s unhinged libertarian side

tardy steeple
#

This is

#

Very real teen depression

#

I hope you figure it out. Sometimes you gotta hit rock bottom

peak bobcat
#

You learn new things everyday

tardy steeple
#

Hope it doesn't break you when you hit the floor and you find a chance to climb back up

#

This is what happens when you trap people in shitty anti LGBTQ+ cultures with poor support for mental health. Not surprised iris is spiraling into doomer edge lord murder suicide pact shit.

#

I went through it too, in Texas.

#

Luckily, I hit the bottom and was forced to do the hard work to fix the problems in my life.

#

Which I was only able to do because I had a support net in my direct family. Probably not the case for most.

rapid sluice
tardy steeple
#

Sure.

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You should uhhhh get some help.

#

It'll be better to get help before you chance ruining your life rather than after.

rapid sluice
#

Mental healthcare? In Asia? You're kidding

tardy steeple
#

It's either that or be miserable

rapid sluice
#

Even if I wanted to, help is either extremely expensive or 8 months delayed

tardy steeple
#

Start now

#

8 months will pass soon

plucky zenith
#

@elfin gulch but man, what absolute psychos

#

I would say I am a peace loving pretty nice guy, at least that is what I believe myself to be, but there are certaint kind of people that make me think a lot more vile than I would normally do

elfin gulch
#

Thankfully in a way he did get what he deserves, or at least his families that really affect him.

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Beside being a psychotic police, he was also a horrible father, so much so that it's unfortunate to hear when her daughter that i was kind of fond with as a big sis, commited suicide after she could no longer handle the pressure well into her late college years

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And that to the fact she is his only child

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Still i definitely agreed with your stance, some people just aren't worth forgiving

plucky zenith
elfin gulch
peak bobcat
#

Stay strong

rapid sluice
#

Tatakae

peak bobcat
#

Not like that

rapid sluice
#

But frfr I agree with Bepper

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Don't throw away everything because of a few years

#

I'm the only one allowed to do that because I'll be throwing away multiple people's everything

#

You will triumph

#

Even the disciples of Jesus faltered

#

So stay strong, keep the lights in your eyes on, and go forth

peak bobcat
rapid sluice
#

The point is jc

peak bobcat
#

Do not detract from the other 🐘

rapid sluice
#

Jc's more important because Hozy's there too

peak bobcat
#

I am literally one of the two people who can disagree

elfin gulch
#

I'm left completely out of everything

rapid sluice
elfin gulch
#

No about your conversation here

#

Anything bad happened to jc?

rapid sluice
#

Is your friend compensating you

#

sucking dick or something

#

For that interior design homework thing

elfin gulch
#

Huh no why
I will ask her something later
Or none at all

elfin gulch
#

Mmm

rapid sluice
#

it's not a race

Yeah if someone saying that manages to change my entire worldview, then they're magic

#

I need to do trans stuff ASAP to get optimum results

elfin gulch
#

Are that person naked and you censored that with a pic from Persona?

peak bobcat
#

It’s not a race in that rushing without guarantee or fall-back mechanism does more harm

rapid sluice
#

I'm watching RTGame Daniel whilst reading and before the work rush

peak bobcat
rapid sluice
#

But I've got contingencies

#

I've a few people in Malaysia who are willing to let me crash for a few days, so I cna flee the country if needed

#

And if I'm in need of urgent cash, I can just sell all my stocks

peak bobcat
rapid sluice
peak bobcat
#

Buddy so ill-prepared it was fascinating to see

rapid sluice
#

Man's literally YOLO'd and regretted immediately

peak bobcat
#

Hopefully he copes better next time

rapid sluice
#

Character arc

#

Tbh it feels weird that he didn't ask anyone responsible for advice

peak bobcat
#

Eh I think on here alone ppl gave pretty decent advice (if broad). I just think he wasn’t prepared and organized enough, things which will improve with experience

#

If anything he gained a new perspective

#

And that is capitalism sucks, thanks for coming to my ted talk

rapid sluice
#

Before he said YOLO

peak bobcat
#

Yes. He did discuss it here before he went yolo

#

Idk about his irl acquaintances though

rapid sluice
#

Oh I see

#

Maybe I didn't care about sea before he YOLO'd

peak bobcat
#

But yeah I think he was just drained from med school and looking for any out

rapid sluice
#

Fair enough

peak bobcat
#

Just didn’t imagine ahead

elfin gulch
#

Part of it is because my father reached out to me during the time, and I kept thinking if he deserves to have a debt right before his retirement, and part is because I don't have much confidence in myself (never did), so when my job gets a little rough (it's a pretty nice job also, I'm just bad) I just went yolo again

#

But yes most is because I didn't prepare anything, I don't have any idea of what I'm capable of doing that can fill my stomach. I can't imagine I'm exhausted from whatever I was doing cause I didn't do anything at all, I just feel like "I could be doing something else" and turns out I don't know and that just affects everyone around me, but at least I don't get emotional that much anymore

#

Anyway I don't go outside how do you seek therapy what if they judge me based on what I say to them

elfin gulch
rapid sluice
#

I don't think you'd have so much introspection if you hadn't gone through that

elfin gulch
#

Thanks I'll now follow a religion
Believing in something is more doable than in myself

rapid sluice
elfin gulch
#

So true!

#

Anyway how's stuff on your end

elfin gulch
rapid sluice
#

Working in an office, and then in a supermarket for the weekends is draining

#

But I know I need to keep it up to contribute to the Greater Transition Fund so that's that

#

Thinking about quitting the supermarket job tbh

elfin gulch
#

(from my experiences you totally should but that depends on your place I think)

#

You should

rapid sluice
elfin gulch
#

Blasting Jazz

peak bobcat
peak bobcat
#

It’s sad but it is society

elfin gulch
elfin gulch
keen jungle
#

How goes it, gang?

#

Any mysteries to be solved?

#

No? Boo

#

I myself, over the last few months, have fallen to alcoholism. Having a rough time trying to talk about it.

#

I uh.. iunno.

#

Lost my job maybe three years ago at this point from a combo of my drinking and COVID related stress

#

Or rather, I quit.

#

Got fed up with skeleton crew nonsense and bad pay

#

Suppose, I just needed to vent a bit

#

My uh

#

Friends. Few I ever really trusted

#

Went through a lot of changests during and prior. So we've lost touch

#

One, well. He had issues like me. Abuser. had to go off to rehab, and can't really physically interact with us anymore. Temptations and such.

#

The other.. iunno. I can't even make a based call.
His pops passed when he was young, and it's been stress since.
Pretty sure he sees me as a fuck-up and.. well, considers me a friend but has nothing to do with me.

#

The last is like a big brother to me. He moved back home tho. We don't talk much anymore. Got the wife and fams going.

#

Guess I'm just feeling sorry for myself.

#

Been a rough few weeks

#

Anywho

#

Love you guys.

#

💜

#

Seeya in a week or two!

rapid sluice
#

But that doesn't mean your history changed too

#

You were friends, you were close

#

What happened in your yesterday, that's what influences your today

#

And what you do today influences your tomorrow

#

You don't need to have everything under control

#

Unfortunately, alcoholism is common

#

People have and will continue to climb, and conquer that mountain

rapid sluice
#

And they will take Ws, quite often in fact

#

And ultimately its impossible to stop that, to stop that thought of being decadent

#

But you can take steps to slow it down

#

The first step is knowing that you need to take steps

#

I'm sure you've got this, Katsa

rapid sluice
raw lodge
#

Awww, im sad you fell back into alchoholism,Katsa!

#

Especially after you decided to quit, but lifes a rollercoaster. You gotta hang tight, never giver up and keep going

#

Cuz the alternative is much worse imo. But i believe you got this!

sweet sundial
keen jungle
#

💜💜

rapid sluice
#

Anyone knows how to handle people with dementia?

#

It's terrifying

peak bobcat
#

sadly there's little to be done

rapid sluice
#

I'm at my grandmother's house rn

#

And I'm at a loss at what to do

#

Her memory is getting worse and worse

#

Her functions are declining

#

I've been trying to get her a referral to doctors, but it's slow

peak bobcat
#

yeah it's a scary thought to think about

#

and the sad thing is there's really little current medicine can do

rapid sluice
#

I've been talking to her

#

Abe she's just so delirious

#

She thought I was a decade younger

tardy steeple
#

Part of dealing with dementia is accepting their mind fog for what it is and just trying your best to have a pleasant time with them. Keep the vibes positive.

rapid sluice
#

Turns out old people falling is pretty dangerous

peak bobcat
#

Yep

#

It can indicate heart problems (heart the organs)

#

like a stroke

#

and they don't heal well from injuries

elfin gulch
#

Saw something that really stands out to me
Someone didn't brush their teeth for one and half a year and it was because of their mental health?

#

I personally had a phase where I did something similarly but I don't get being congratulated for having decent hygiene

rapid sluice
#

i brush my teeth everyday and no one congratulated me

elfin gulch
#

Yeah, are we in the age where when you do basic stuff and ppl congratulate you for it?

#

I mean I can agree that is supportive, but is the main problem was because they were traumatized so badly that they couldn't perform basic tasks or they looked for something to blame for with undiagnosed problems

raw lodge
elfin gulch
#

I don't have any problems, but I just got talked about how I should kill myself for the 10th or so time by my dad and I don't feel much anymore
Is that a good thing

rapid sluice
elfin gulch
#

The first one
Cause I haven't changed much, so I feel like it's like hold true I guess?

rapid sluice
#

i mean you not feeling much can be several things

#
  1. you're not feeling anything at all 2) you've learnt to tune him out 3) a mix of both
elfin gulch
#

Guessing the last one as 1/ I do agree with him that something about me that I need to improve
2/ he talked about the wrong stuff for half an hour

#

Man never tried to ask me anything but study stuff and outright said he doesn't get me zamn

#

But I don't feel offended that much anymore, like after stuff like this I would vent somewhere and probably be all emotional that night

peak bobcat
#

Unless you're feeling suicide ideation I think it's not bad in and of itself if you don't find verbal abuse hurtful anymore

#

I guess it is kinda sad in a way but it can be good for your mental health

elfin gulch
#

Thanks hik

rapid sluice
#

"It is what it is" or a "this again😔"

elfin gulch
#

Both!

peak bobcat
#

"This again" and "It is what it is" are similar I feel

#

denotes inevitability

elfin gulch
#

I acknowledge they're my problems but he only tackled the stuff that comes with it, and insisted that being the problem itself

elfin gulch
#

I thought after my dad scolded me for 2 hours about how bad the smell of my room is I thought I pissed and pooped on it or smth and was accustomed to it, it was just the smell of the whole floor and I'm always shut my door so didn't have much weird smells

sweet sundial
#

My room probably smells terribly, but I barely have sense of smell

peak bobcat
#

I mean if you live in it for a long time you wouldn’t notice the smell and also I don’t know why the fuck your dad is pissed about it unless he also sleeps there???

elfin gulch
#

Like fun fact, my brother's room, which is next to my parents', smells even worse

#

Imagine telling me to kms but talked about a whole different thing I didn't do

tardy steeple
#

Shid and pid in his room

peak bobcat
elfin gulch
#

For the first time I'm glad I'm taller than most people in Vietnam
My fucking old man just fucking hit my 11 yo bro in the nose and made him fucking bleed

#

I swear if I see if again I will fucking hit him back

#

He wonders why his 2 childs are like this and then proceed to be the fucking worst shit the boy has ever seen through his life

#

I'm not sure if he didn't hit me because he thinks I'm too mature for that or keep saying I should kill myself for the 5th time will work

#

I can't probably take on a military man but I'll try

peak bobcat
#

damn that's child abuse

#

he should get some counselling service

#

and so should you and your brother really

elfin gulch
#

Yeah thanks, I might do that if it's a thing here in Vietnam
Like here you see children get that daily, I'm probably one of the few lucky ones since I didn't stray from my "good boy" role until now

peak bobcat
#

Sorry you had to go through that

elfin gulch
#

Thanks, he later on tried to be sorry while saying different things entirely

rapid sluice
#

Does this happen often?

elfin gulch
#

I'm not sure, cause he's always a fucking ass while he's drunk, but this time it was probably because I pissed him off so he went on my brother

rapid sluice
#

Jesus

#

Any CPS or something available in Vietnam?

elfin gulch
#

He also told me he would kill me multiple times but I guess it wouldn't be a bluff now

#

What's cps?

rapid sluice
#

Remember that you can call the police

#

It's called assault and battery

elfin gulch
#

How does witnessing work again
Cause my brother clearly shows signs of being ok despite all that

#

It's kinda funny in a way when I'm worrying about him

rapid sluice
elfin gulch
#

Yeah but what I meant is my source to it would only be "trust me", and my dad on the outside is like, a respectable man?

rapid sluice
#

So?

#

Fucking, Jeffery Epstein

#

But idk how the legal system in Vietnam works

#

How about your mother?

elfin gulch
#

She also screamed at him, telling him to shut up

rapid sluice
#

Witnesses

#

You can talk to her about calling the police on him

elfin gulch
#

No what I meant is like she's with him on this one

rapid sluice
#

Oh

elfin gulch
#

They both blamed him being drunk and moved on

rapid sluice
#

I thought you meant she screamed and your father

elfin gulch
#

No she screamed at my brother

rapid sluice
#

Bruhhhhhhhhh

#

BRUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

elfin gulch
#

Telling him to shut up, stop the cries

rapid sluice
#

This is how you raise fucked up children

elfin gulch
#

Lmao

rapid sluice
#

Your brother's gonna be fucked up in the future

#

Get some help

elfin gulch
#

He already is

rapid sluice
#

Call the police if he hits him again

elfin gulch
#

But yeah most of that came from me actually
He's probably still pissed off because I dropped of med (even though I'm picking it on again, double tho this is the second time I do that)

#

He's still in a better relationship with my parents than I do

#

Like he hit my brother but talked about me

rapid sluice
#

Sheesh

#

Honestly? Put on some muscle and try to protect your brother

elfin gulch
#

Again, I do wonder how did he ask himself why his kids are like this

elfin gulch
#

Also I'm always stay away from home, so I can't do anything
Dropping school and stay here is a rare occasion

#

I do feel guilty, but I hate them all together, and if possible I would leave them for good

#

I'll just try to come up with a better plan

#

I'm am asshole surprise surprise

rapid sluice
elfin gulch
#

He's got a Macbook fuck him

peak bobcat
#

Wow that’s a can of worms

rapid sluice
peak bobcat
#

Seriously dysfunctional family vibe

#

This is something to be talked in therapy for decades to come

#

💀

elfin gulch
#

To be honest, not in an edgy way or smth, I have even more stuff that I probably will only keep to myself or talk in therapy, not really law breaking kinda stuff, but somewhat messed up and hard to say to other people

#

But yeah I'll save them for therapy

rapid sluice
elfin gulch
#

No not like messed up things happened to me, I seek to them

rapid sluice
#

Only if you want to

elfin gulch
#

It's also embarrassing, I somehow got both at once so there's that

#

So yeah that's it goodnight tri-state area I'll watch something!

#

Thanks for the offer

rapid sluice
elfin gulch
#

Jesus my dad while drunk is wild lmao

#

A few days ago he mentioned how I'm fucking stink
Today he says "if you like to be clean so much get the fuck out"

rapid sluice
#

Yikes

#

He drinks often?

elfin gulch
#

Mf has 2 boxes of beer and every time he's home he invites someone and drink

rapid sluice
#

Jesus

#

I'd suggest you ask him to tone it down, but I think it'd just result in him trying to whoop your ass

elfin gulch
#

At least I'm one step closer to being an anime character

elfin gulch
rapid sluice
#

Sheesh

#

I'd tell you to contact police, but I doubt that's gonna help

elfin gulch
#

He's in the military lmao

#

My family is used to it at this point, but I just had to point that out

#

Other than that, today he's harmless

rapid sluice
#

Sheesh

#

Maybe get Bepperoni or Hikki or PoppyPaf to give their input

elfin gulch
#

Nah don't need to I'm back to med after this week so away from them

#

They can hate each other

sweet sundial
#

Just survive the med school

elfin gulch
#

True

peak bobcat
#

Sea... my godless ass will pray for you to make a lot of money in the future and have your long deserved therapy

rapid sluice
#

^

elfin gulch
#

Thanks you too!

elfin gulch
#

You're religious?

sweet sundial
#

My ramen having ass won't pray, just believe in you

raw lodge
#

Sea should undergone his own personal anime training arc so he can defeat his great foe, Papa Sea

rapid sluice
#

tragic backstory sea

elfin gulch
#

At least I can forget everything with gaming! (Now I have fucked up lifestyle)

elfin gulch
#

I hate this

#

Why do people keep hoping on me like do they not know how useless I am

#

Why do people just give me pressures I didn't ask for, I didn't ask for your money

#

Did they think that will help me

#

It just shows how much you would be disappointed if I don't live up to that

#

Nah fuck it I will never use that money problems solved now I just need to actually try

rapid sluice
rapid sluice
#

Kinda hate how different my parents expectations are for myself and my sister

#

Me: "Maybe I don't wanna go to uni"
Them: "The pay difference between a diploma holder and a degree holder is very different."

#

My sister: "I kinda wanna just slack at home"
Them: "We can provide an allowance for you, just make sure to do the housework"

#

They dump all these expectations onto me, without even giving a thought to the few things that might stop me from killing myself

elfin gulch
#

It's hard to give someone comfort when their situation is "same"

#

But at least you have me so I understand that

rapid sluice
#

What's with Asian families and misplaced expectations

rapid sluice
#

How do you guys know what you wanna do?

sweet sundial
#

There's no way to know

#

Things like laziness supress it sometimes so much I even have to force myself to do something, despite enjoying it a lot

rapid sluice
#

But like

#

I'm turning 20 in April

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And I don't have a direction in my life

sweet sundial
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Well...

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That's probably how it is for most of us

elfin gulch
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You can join one direction

sweet sundial
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I'm just trying to stabilize my life and then become Independent

elfin gulch
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Or take your time
It's not like everyday a 20yo person wakes up and knows what they were meant to do

sweet sundial
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You don't have to decide everything in your life during your 20ties

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Are you making money?

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Good

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That's actually all you need rn

rapid sluice
elfin gulch
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Yeah that's my point

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Youth is time for you to pick smth up along the way

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I just fucked myself up so badly that I will ignore that for the time being, but you don't have to

sweet sundial
rapid sluice
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But I haven't picked anything up aside from Project Moon addiction

sweet sundial
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There are so many people out there just living their life

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Without searching for some unknown, proper destination of it

elfin gulch
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Yeah not like everyone is Picasso drawing shits at 10 while the depressed guy learnt drawing at his 30s

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The starry night guy

rapid sluice
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Van Gogh?

elfin gulch
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Yeah that

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Or you just stick to what you're good at and be content with that I guess, that's how most people did it

rapid sluice
sweet sundial
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Focus on making money where you can

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Something may come your way

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Also didn't you want to move out of your country?

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Or did I get lost between you and Jc.

elfin gulch
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No that's jc wanting to go to the uk but she doesn't really need money while Iris needs them for the boobs install

elfin gulch
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Draw

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But don't trust me, if you're still living you're doing it right

rapid sluice
elfin gulch
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Dying is cringe ngl

sweet sundial
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Yeah, wanting to die is quite cringe

rapid sluice
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I never said I wasn't cringe

elfin gulch
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So don't be

rapid sluice
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But I really don't know what I want to do

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I've wasted my past 3 years

sweet sundial
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We all did

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Purpose in life is fake

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Do you think me and Sea know what we want to do?

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Naaaah, there's no way

elfin gulch
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Probably Nick didn't want to be a math teacher but here we are

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Or he did

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Shame on him

rapid sluice
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I don't even know what to do (in uni if I go) much less for work

elfin gulch
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I heard some people say uni is one of the places you go to know what you truly want

rapid sluice
elfin gulch
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Literature perhaps

rapid sluice
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@elfin gulch oi you're applying for uni right

elfin gulch
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yes

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oops wrong thing

rapid sluice
elfin gulch
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idk i had agency apply for me

rapid sluice
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What subject

elfin gulch
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geography

rapid sluice
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I see

sweet sundial
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You either take advanced uni dedicated to something that's paid well or you are passionate about

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Or just uni to get the papers

elfin gulch
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Can I do this

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I mean for the stuff that I failed I straight up just didn't take a passing test, still

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(for the stuff that I did I had no idea how)

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Yeah I fucking can

tardy steeple
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That is a lot of F's

raw lodge
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Press F in the chat for sea

regal talon
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F

elfin gulch
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Omg literally me

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except i didnt even go to the exam

elfin gulch
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Yeah that's precisely why I got a perfect Fs

keen jungle
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oh

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Am dummy

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I miss my friends. That's it. Each moved on with life and we only ever speak ocsssionly on a group messager. It feels rough not being able to fall back sometimes and ask for help. It's like everyone just needs to be independent. And again, fair. Life. Wives. Family.

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I never grew up, I suppose.

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Just miss them a lot

elfin gulch
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That's how it works, friends come and go, it's hard to find ones you will still hang out now and then

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They change, and so do you

sweet sundial
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I feel you, not exactly missing my old friends, but times past. They were calmer, right now everything feels rushed to me, everchanging

elfin gulch
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Should I invest in therapy not knowing what the state of it in Vietnam is or do I attempt to fix things myself for the 10th time

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Disclaimer I'm not sad or anything but this is getting out of hand