#Sein's Tavern

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rapid sluice
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Mfw I might just have to commit to coming out instead of considering any longer

elfin gulch
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How's the outside feel

rapid sluice
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idk man

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my parents talked to me about the dresses

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i just told them that it was for cosplay

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but i'm suspecting that they're suspecting

elfin gulch
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Sus

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Sorry, I have no experiences for these kind of stuff (like I won't even talk to my parents about anything, let alone my gender) but good luck to you

rapid sluice
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yeah unfortunately

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i dont know what to do

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i'm just distracting myself with youtube and vidya

peak bobcat
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do you have a general idea of what they think regarding this?

rapid sluice
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well

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i told them that i might just wear it normally

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my mother laughed HeiterHappy

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so idk if she's mocking or something

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but at least it aint instantly taking the cane, amirite?

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copium

peak bobcat
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More broadly, like, what’s their “stance” on LGBTQ (stance is in quotations for a reason)

rapid sluice
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well

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i think they're ok with it

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i say ok with a sense of caution

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they refer to trans people with a very outdated and somewhat derogatory term

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but its something that i kinda expected, since that's what they grew up with

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and i dont think they mean harm

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i think they're not supportive

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and seem to think that this is just a trend

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but then again, they're also not the type of people to be overly hateful

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i've already checked with their religion, and its an all clear from that end

peak bobcat
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Hmm, prospect not looking good then

peak bobcat
rapid sluice
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its a sect of Buddhism so i'm not dealing with some kinda MAGA Christian thing

peak bobcat
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Well I can’t say but it seems an uphill battle
At best it’s gonna take a lot of explaining since they don’t seem to understand what it is?

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It’s like, parents have this tendency to think if the child defy their (commonly very normative) expectation they must only be rebellious/confused/emotionally unbalanced etc. and will eventually grow out of it “like a normal person”

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Either way I wish you the best

rapid sluice
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My plan was to do it whilst conscripted

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At least I'd be away on an island while they processed it

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And y'know

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I'd have a gun

rapid sluice
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Well

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It's been a bit, hasn't it

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I told my mother what I was thinking and stuff

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And she said "it's just a momentary fantasy"

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Just a phase

peak bobcat
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Yeah I assumed that more or less

rapid sluice
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shit's hard

peak bobcat
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I know, hang in there

rapid sluice
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idk what to do

peak bobcat
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Idk either Frieren3

rapid sluice
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My biggest mistake was doing it in the morning

peak bobcat
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I don’t think it has anything to do with the movement of the sun

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It’s gonna go from “you’re just confused” to “do you need to see a doctor” to “what have we done wrong why do you grow up to be like this” so strap yourself

rapid sluice
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I can't Just sleep it off

peak bobcat
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Ah

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I see

rapid sluice
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When I think about what I'd have to do

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I just want to close my eyes

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And drift into space

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No mind to think

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No voice

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No eyes

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I just want to lie in a field of eternal sand, always shifting, but it still stays the same

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I don't know what I'm feeling

peak bobcat
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Same

spiral sphinx
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Also I guess try to get in touch with other trans folks and get to know what their coming out stories and methods were

rapid sluice
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yeah

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i did

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i've talked to maybe 30 people or so

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but it sucks

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i'll try again in a week

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maybe let the shock wear off or something

elfin gulch
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Holy shit

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But yeah guessing either consistency or just gtfo are the only ways

rapid sluice
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I mean in fairness

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I'm just saying these things here to say it

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It's better than not, after all

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Well either way

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I need to shelve this for now

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Exams and all

elfin gulch
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Go you buddy

rapid sluice
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how do i even bring it up to my parents that its not a phase

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i mean

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other than threats

sweet sundial
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Threats are terrible idea

rapid sluice
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its effective, but would rather not do it

elfin gulch
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What kind of incel said threats are effective

rapid sluice
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me

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i would

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i mean like

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i'm gonna end up in military if i dont transition now, and by then i'd have a gun

elfin gulch
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Desperate time with desperate measures huh

peak bobcat
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Like, that may get the police called on you

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Because that sure isn’t legal

elfin gulch
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Imma just wait to someone with experiences

rapid sluice
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tbh its frierencord

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no one here has experience with this LMAO

peak bobcat
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If it ever worked, it has to come from both sides

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So you can try everything but it may not get through in the end, which is a reality you should be ready for

rapid sluice
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yup

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well either way i just need to face it sooner or later

peak bobcat
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You know I think you can afford to be patient but insistent, until, you know, they cross a line (like threatening to disown or something)
Meanwhile build up your finances/independence so you can float even with a looming disownment

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But don’t do crypto

raw lodge
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Then they go all in on Crypto lmao

rapid sluice
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I don't think I'm stupid enough for that

raw lodge
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Now, that where you are wrong

peak bobcat
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Iris: I won’t all in, but I sure will crypto

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That said I don’t think crypto gets a resurgence

raw lodge
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I do.

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I think crypto will come in waves. First one was 2017, second was last year i think

peak bobcat
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🤷

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Not a crypto supporter here, so I won’t say more

raw lodge
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Well, i own very little crypto from way back when. Im not one of those crypto bros either, just stating my opinion. Could be totally wrong either way, i dont really care that much about it. Buy fuck nfts tho

gritty lichen
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Man, Asian parents are tough

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I have it easy with my parents cause they are never in my life

peak bobcat
peak bobcat
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Personally I think it’s good

rapid sluice
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if you agree with your parents, its good, and vice versa

gritty lichen
peak bobcat
gritty lichen
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In my experience nobody really agree with their parents, the kids either just too meek to speak up so they struggle and suicidal and miserable

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Or they become too rebellious and don't see their family anymore

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Lol

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I was the 2nd case for awhile

rapid sluice
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poppy lore

peak bobcat
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Well that escalated all of the sudden

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Not that I disagree

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I don’t often put it out there

rapid sluice
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i mean i've often told my family that i wanna kill myself

raw lodge
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Damn

gritty lichen
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Yeah tbh I don't understand how parents would rather have their kid dead than the kids doing what they want

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And if they want you dead it means they only want you to be their little machine rather than you being yourself and your happiness

peak bobcat
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My working hypothesis is most parents see their child as their pet

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Therefore incapable of understanding that the child has their own ego and preconceptions independent of the parents worldview

peak bobcat
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Which is a really twisted POV but they don’t see it

gritty lichen
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I didn't ask to be born anyway it's only for their own wishes that I was born

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Or their horniness

rapid sluice
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i mean i was forced to go into IT after becoming a doctor failed

gritty lichen
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Lol

rapid sluice
peak bobcat
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That they had to spend money sending me to school and buy me food and clothes

gritty lichen
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The only reasons kids are born is because parents want it and want to have a crotch spawn for them to demand around

rapid sluice
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based and we shouldnt have children

peak bobcat
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Like wtf you decided to have children I didn’t

dawn zenithBOT
peak bobcat
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Well good thing I won’t have kids!

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This ends with me!

peak bobcat
rapid sluice
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like in the end the only thing keeping me alive is the sunk cost fallacy

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so much time and money has already been invested in me, i cant just throw it away now

peak bobcat
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I’m quite serious

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(Not ez ofc)

gritty lichen
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Anyway I've always been the rebellious type and if my parents told me they'd rather me dead than opposed than opposed them then I'll pack my shit and go

peak bobcat
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But you really owe these people nothing

rapid sluice
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poppy is based

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i need to start living like poppy holy shit

peak bobcat
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We all do

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I should’ve realized sooner

gritty lichen
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Like idk if someone suddenly pay for my restaurant bill and then be like "I paid for your bill now you have to listen to me and be grateful" I'll be like ???? Sorry I didn't ask ?

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Anyway iris many people before transitioning feel like they didn't really live and was miserable

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So I know it sucks but if you're not living as who you are and feel like you'd rather not live

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Then you should jsut go ahead and live as someone you'd rather be than living in miserable like a zombie. Because not like right now you're any happier

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Althou i know it's easier for me to say bc I'm not in your situation

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But I've known many trans people that become immersely happier

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Like what is it in this situation that you're still hanging on to?

rapid sluice
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i mean its a lot more like its just not feasible to do it now

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i lack the finances, i lack the social groundwork

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so what i'm thinking of doing is just finishing my current exams, and then going through it with my parents again

gritty lichen
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Maybe you could take a gap year working to have some finance back up of your own?

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Or I guess you're considering military

rapid sluice
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i'm not considering it, i have to do it if i dont transition

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mandatory service moment LMAO

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but yeah i'll just finish my exams and assignments first

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then tell them again, and gauge the situation from there

gritty lichen
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Yeah

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Let us know how it goes but one step at the time for now

rapid sluice
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yeye

raw lodge
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Based

rapid sluice
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well

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i was forced into another talk

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my parents said that "go get diagnosed, but we wont let you start until 21"

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"your brain isn't matured enough" or something

elfin gulch
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My parents literally said the same

rapid sluice
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lmao

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asian parent moment

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i mean at least its a step

elfin gulch
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Encouraging

peak bobcat
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Well they leave open the possibility at the very least

rapid sluice
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Have obtained referral

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Now we wait

elfin gulch
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They diagnose you with Frierencord member, last stage cancer

rapid sluice
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guess i'll die

rapid sluice
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I did get an A in GCSE Chemistry

peak bobcat
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A drug dealer?

rapid sluice
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i've got a driver's license

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i can run over a 6 year old kid jaywalking or smash into a schoolbus

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but apparently i'm not mature enough to decide what happens to my own body?

sweet sundial
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Yup, makes sense to me!

rapid sluice
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holy hell

elfin gulch
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Uhh
#1 drawing tablet so I can draw stuff
#2 PS3 since it can play all Metal Gear games and I like Metal Gear
#3 funding for future stuff like a gf if I ever can land one
#4 a Gunpla because I like Gundam
#5 Nintendo Switch cause I'm a simp for Eunie from Xenoblade Chronicles 3
#6 Xenoblade Chronicles 3
#7 Everywhere at the end of time album on Bandcamp
#8 the whole series of Katabami to Ougon digitally
#9 is above but physical, also Sign of Abyss and Totsukuni no Shoujo
#10 a gaming PC
#11 food and shelter

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I wish I was born rich

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But no so I will strike cry with blood, tear and cum to get these

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#12 an album from Yorushika/sajou no hana
#13 a better drawing tablet
#14 a portable TV so I can plug my PS3 into
#15 art commission of my waifu ak-15
#16 a piano cause I like piano
#17 a PS5
#18 a buffet filled with mostly salad
#19 a airsoft rifle cause it looks cool
#20 a wooden pair of katana

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Oh yeah, scratch that then

peak bobcat
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BRO

elfin gulch
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I achieved #2 and #14 hooray

peak bobcat
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Ok, first of all, you need to subtract all cost of living first

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Then you get your “dispensable income”

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Btw, 3 is too fucking broad dude, strike it out

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Wait you just listed a fucking piano

elfin gulch
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An electric piano, yes

peak bobcat
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Slightly better

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Dude you have a looot of needs

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My advice is

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Don’t actually buy any of them until you get a stable job with middle class income

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But that’s boring advice so stick with the previous one

elfin gulch
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I can save around 85 dollars if I try to live at my minimum

peak bobcat
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Subtract food, water, electricity and internet and then buy whatever you can with the dispensable income

elfin gulch
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A month

peak bobcat
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Don’t forget phone

elfin gulch
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Not really that much since I rarely use it

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For calling and stuff (I do have a budget 3g to use but I work 8 hours a day so barely use it)

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Just call everyone using that and Internet

elfin gulch
peak bobcat
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You can’t hold a job without a cellphone

elfin gulch
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For now a budget one, you just plug and draw on it (doesn't have a screen)

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Or doesn't need one since I won't be able to afford one for now

peak bobcat
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Don’t say wacom

elfin gulch
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Huion would be my choice

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Wacom is like the Apple of drawing tablet

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Small ass screen

peak bobcat
elfin gulch
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Also I have no touch pen, and I don't think I will be comfortable using fingers

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Or mouse

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I can try, but will that help with the muscle memory when I can just practice on paper?

peak bobcat
elfin gulch
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One is enough but also I like to game

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Makes sense

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So basically funding then?

raw lodge
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Thats a big wishlist, sea

elfin gulch
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I'm a man of desires

rapid sluice
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BRO

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#1 drawing tablet so I can draw stuff
#13 a better drawing tablet

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BROOO

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#16 a piano cause I like piano

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NO

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DON'T DO IT

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if you need an instrument for piano, get a keyboard

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#19 a airsoft rifle cause it looks cool
#20 a wooden pair of katana

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fucking hell

rapid sluice
rapid sluice
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Since emulators exist for those

elfin gulch
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For switch it isn't (stable)

rapid sluice
elfin gulch
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I make two messages cause those are really optinal and only came up when I thought "huh is that it"

rapid sluice
elfin gulch
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Not stable, yeah

rapid sluice
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Still, you don't really need a switch jesus

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Like

elfin gulch
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Even the Wii U emu isn't really easy to emulate

rapid sluice
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Man's literally just listing everything he wants

elfin gulch
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Which is the point yeah (I'm listing something I want so I can save money for it)

rapid sluice
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What's your current disposable income?

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That's your income - (tax + living expenses)

rapid sluice
peak bobcat
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Or whether to get

rapid sluice
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You literally cannot achieve this is a year

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Maybe 5

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But at your current rate of income? Nah give up on it

peak bobcat
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Like, my best advice is tell him to hold off until he makes enough savings and gets a stable middle income job

rapid sluice
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You've got your thing with your father and debts or something right?

peak bobcat
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But if he wants instant gratification…

rapid sluice
rapid sluice
rapid sluice
elfin gulch
rapid sluice
rapid sluice
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Yeah good luck buddy, you're planning this for the next decade

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For now, just prioritize

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And think realistically

elfin gulch
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What being a spoiled city boi did to a mf

elfin gulch
peak bobcat
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Yeah but you realize most of those things have fixed dollar prices

elfin gulch
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Like this one

peak bobcat
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Not to mention possible taxes

elfin gulch
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Imma commit tax fraud

peak bobcat
elfin gulch
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(how do you even pay taxes)

rapid sluice
peak bobcat
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And also extra fees from converting currencies

rapid sluice
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see if you can apply for any tax returns

elfin gulch
peak bobcat
rapid sluice
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ie purchasing it as a gift or 'donation'

raw lodge
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I dont really think that matters when you only make 85 bucks tbh

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i mean looking for tax loopholes

peak bobcat
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First time I hear someone not having innumerable wealth concerned about this method of tax evasion

elfin gulch
dawn zenithBOT
elfin gulch
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85 is what left after I count all the food, shelter, electricity and stuff

rapid sluice
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its sea

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i'm just throwing ideas

elfin gulch
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Literally me

raw lodge
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But if you have debt, as you do, cant you get a tax deduction for that?

elfin gulch
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My parents offered to pay the debt themselves now that I remember it

raw lodge
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what

elfin gulch
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Ok fuck that then omw to make money to repay my parents

raw lodge
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i thought they left you on your own

elfin gulch
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I'll buy a drawing tab and that's it

raw lodge
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but sounds like your situation with the fam is improving at least

rapid sluice
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sea for the love of god please audit yourself

elfin gulch
elfin gulch
raw lodge
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yeah

elfin gulch
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That's probably the same list I have when I was 14

raw lodge
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but dont go out and take a loan, just so you can buy that crap

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how old are you now?

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19/20?

elfin gulch
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I won't, I have games that I haven't played already, not like I will take a loan to have more games I don't play (or have time to)

elfin gulch
raw lodge
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hmm

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saying goodbye to the good ol' teens

rapid sluice
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btw sea

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are you working + studying?

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or just working

raw lodge
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he's just about to work iirc

elfin gulch
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Working
But also saving money for study now that I remember about it

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Well I'll still buy a drawing tablet at the bare minimum you can't stop me even if I die

raw lodge
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I think for you, it would be best to focus on just 1 thing at a time

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Like the job

elfin gulch
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I work at a cashier not like I have to worry how I do my job too much

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What I do btw

rapid sluice
elfin gulch
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It is full time

rapid sluice
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oh

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i thought you were doing part time hours

elfin gulch
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Nope 8 hours a day, 6 days a week

rapid sluice
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i see

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then what're your living expenses?

elfin gulch
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I'm too lazy to convert them to dollar (also watching some stuff they sent me)
Around 2 million vnd for food (if I don't eat noodles, around 800k for rent (electricity and water should be 1 million) and uhh taxes?

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I have never managed my money so I'm not sure

rapid sluice
elfin gulch
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2/3 of my salary
1/2 if I try hard enough

rapid sluice
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highest expenses are food, yes?

elfin gulch
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Yeah (probably buying the ingredients and cooking them myself is cheaper, but I don't know how to?

raw lodge
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omg

rapid sluice
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are you willing to try cooking?

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instead of y'know, eating out?

elfin gulch
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Sure, I've had bad experiences with cooking so I'm not sure where to start

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Inserting the rice cooking talk I had

raw lodge
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youtube is your friend

elfin gulch
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My friend betrayed me

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They always taught me to cook for 4 people and with ingredients I have never heard of

rapid sluice
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what ingredients?

peak bobcat
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Oh u don’t cook?

raw lodge
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Then look for recipes for which you have the ingredients bruv

peak bobcat
raw lodge
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or buy the ingredients

peak bobcat
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Bro if you cook you save 2 million out of, uh

rapid sluice
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yeah

raw lodge
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eating out = expensive + can be unhealthy

rapid sluice
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like literally

peak bobcat
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I’m guessing 2 million is 100 dollars

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You save extra 100 dollars

rapid sluice
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please just invest in getting a rice cooker and a frying pan

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or a wok

peak bobcat
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Yeah start with ricecooker and pan

rapid sluice
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that's literally all you need

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oh and a pot too, if you're gonna be making a lot of noodles

peak bobcat
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There are cheap one man cookers out there

raw lodge
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I think he already has a pot

rapid sluice
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so if you're cooking, you can just make a lot of rice at the start of the week, and fridge a lot of it

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at the start of the day, just stir fry some carrots or something

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if you're feeling fancy, add an egg

peak bobcat
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Start with poaching/stirfrying

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One or two ingredients

rapid sluice
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stir frying is literally the second easiest way to cook something

peak bobcat
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If you don’t like preparing ingredients, buy the pre-sliced ones from supermarkets

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In my experience the two most accessible means of cooking

rapid sluice
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like ok sea

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at my work

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i dont buy the food there, even at the staff canteen

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i make an egg sandduwichi and bring it there

raw lodge
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you work at a convenience store, right?

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i just remember you talking about the central bank stint

rapid sluice
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i'm at a bakery for the in between

rapid sluice
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shirenn is cheese

raw lodge
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now i remember comparing you with holly

rapid sluice
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police is hikari

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holly is nuclear plant

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poppyevil is retired

raw lodge
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poppyevil is on a world tour

peak bobcat
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Anyways, all in all, if you cook yourself, you can save another 50 dollars sea

raw lodge
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she doesnt give, but she recieves

peak bobcat
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poppyevil living the best life

rapid sluice
raw lodge
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Poppyevil had to suffer through countless hours of work to enjoy her life tho

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and has to go back eventually

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kek

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but for now, yes she is. Very much so

elfin gulch
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Don't have a fridge also

rapid sluice
elfin gulch
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Cook = better life?

rapid sluice
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yes

elfin gulch
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Well there goes 8 hours free a day

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Being a responsible adult is painful

rapid sluice
peak bobcat
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It doesn’t take 8 hours to cook

raw lodge
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lmao

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he just means that it will be reduced

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or it might take 8 hrs for him, who knows

elfin gulch
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Or it will, took me 2 hours to cook rice alone

rapid sluice
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how???

peak bobcat
elfin gulch
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The rice wasn't even close to fully cooked

rapid sluice
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you have a rice cooker?

raw lodge
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cooking rice is very simple

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most rice packages probably come with instructions as to how to cook them

elfin gulch
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Even with that the surface was mushy and the bottom was burned

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It's a sad story, but yeah I'll try

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Not everyone was blessed with the ability to cook

regal talon
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Ooo rice talk

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If ya cooking on a stove but it on Max till it bubbles a lot then but to medium, after a while put to low heat.

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I think, I haven’t cooked it like that in a few months

regal talon
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Put some oil, Throw random things and boom food

gritty lichen
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So I broke up with my asshole of an ex for good now i think

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Decided to go no contact with him

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I think this is the first ex ever in my life that I decided to go no contact

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And I think it's also the first ex and I truly put a lot of my love in

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In return it just hurts so fucking much

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And now I can't even cry in peace bc I'm always constantly either with people

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Seriously I just want to go back to the US and just crawl into my room and cry

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Used to think crying alone was the worst but now I think unable to cry bc people around is even worse

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Sorry just a dump, I'm just sad

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You'd think at my age I'd be wiser and less impulsive in love, or jaded or something

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But turn out I'm still jsut a fucking idiot

elfin gulch
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And because I was riding my bike, my eyes got more spicy (?) than usual

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But it's ok, you did your best, you deserve to be loved, just now you haven't net the right person (or like they always say, I'd just go to which way you prefer, being single is also cool, you can have 10 cats and no one will complain)

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Single women stereotype

gritty lichen
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More like ế woman stereotypes

elfin gulch
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Ế behavior

rapid sluice
elfin gulch
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@plucky zenith can ya come here from time to time?

plucky zenith
elfin gulch
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venting

rapid sluice
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Sadness, mostly

elfin gulch
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killing crewmates

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I learned about the word venting after among us so I can't think of the word properly

plucky zenith
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sure, can pop in here from time to time

rapid sluice
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When I read the tavern chat

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I want to hug poppy

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And lecture sea on finances

peak bobcat
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And cooking rice

elfin gulch
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Ok this again, but
How do you ask a friend out without making stuff awkward afterward?

peak bobcat
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What kind of out?

elfin gulch
#

Like uhh a couple

sweet sundial
#

It all comes to mindset

#

So impossible to manipulate, really

#

Tell her you are friends with cheesemaker

#

Bonus relationship points

elfin gulch
#

Ok uhh

#

Pls help

sweet sundial
#

How do i help you

elfin gulch
#

Give me free cheese

#

But also dang it I don't wanna have another dream about a girl I'm emotionally attached to and just don't really wanna wake up anymore

#

And although I haven't sorted out whether the feelings I have for her are platonic or not, I don't wanna headbang to a wall anymore
But also I don't wanna hurt her feelings

#

Or free nitro

rapid sluice
elfin gulch
#

We're almost close friends

#

She's like why I'm sending Yakuza gifs

sweet sundial
#

Sea, sadly you are already awkward about it

rapid sluice
#

Ok but do you know if she's single

sweet sundial
#

No matter if it ends badly or well

rapid sluice
#

It's guaranteed awkward if she's already seeing someone

sweet sundial
#

You will still be awkward with it

#

So just go for it

#

As long as she's single, yeah

rapid sluice
elfin gulch
rapid sluice
#

It's impossible to become a Chad so quickly

sweet sundial
#

Well...

rapid sluice
sweet sundial
#

If i don't want to be awkward i just go with cheeseseller persona

rapid sluice
#

Important thing is don't be something you're not

sweet sundial
#

You cannot ever be awkward if you are a merchant

elfin gulch
#

I mean she posts gay Yakuza pics daily and like
Play the game all day for like a few months now, still not sure

sweet sundial
#

Oh god

rapid sluice
sweet sundial
#

I know woman like that

#

Well now she's into Resident Evil

#

Posting everyday Leon gifs

#

But like i said

#

Just go for it Sea

rapid sluice
#

I got a woman into Library of Ruina and she came out as lesbian a month later HeiterHappy

elfin gulch
#

Yeah Albert just got added to DbD and she's down bad for him

rapid sluice
#

What Myo does to a person

sweet sundial
#

I don't even keep track of every gay man i know

#

There's way too many

rapid sluice
elfin gulch
#

For the record, I'm still not sure if I'm bi

rapid sluice
#

Vamp

elfin gulch
#

I'm not you no

rapid sluice
#

Well it's different for everyone ig

sweet sundial
rapid sluice
#

I just woke up one day and went "oh, I guess I'm bi"

sweet sundial
#

If i have to count my sexuality as something other than hetero

#

Then i'm for sure asexual

#

Being horny is just hard

rapid sluice
#

Based

sweet sundial
#

There were also those gay kids that i offered emotional support to few years ago

rapid sluice
#

Good friend Shirenn?

sweet sundial
#

I'm not doing emotional support anymore

rapid sluice
#

Ex-good friend Shirenn?

sweet sundial
#

It's too tiring to just listen to someones random problems that doesn't even make sense

rapid sluice
#

HAHA

sweet sundial
#

Now i'm just cool guy you can game with

rapid sluice
sweet sundial
#

Also rude guy for some people

rapid sluice
sweet sundial
#

Since i refuse to listen to their problems

#

Cheese is always included

rapid sluice
#

I refuse to listen to problems that I seem worthless

sweet sundial
#

Sorry Sea for all those shitty advices

elfin gulch
#

Ok just help me out will ya

rapid sluice
sweet sundial
#

Sure

elfin gulch
#

Give me confidence

rapid sluice
#

Just float the idea to her

sweet sundial
#

You can have my energy

rapid sluice
#

"Wouldn't it be awkward if we started dating lmao"

sweet sundial
#

I don't need it anymore today

rapid sluice
#

Same, my work just ended

#

Have my energy

sweet sundial
#

That's cringe

elfin gulch
#

Where tf is the rice bag

rapid sluice
rapid sluice
sweet sundial
#

He's just awkward, okay?

#

Don't stright out call him cringe

#

Exclude all those amogus memes and... You know what

#

Cringe

#

We love you Sea

rapid sluice
#

Honestly if she's cringe as well

#

Just embrace it

sweet sundial
#

(it's all a joke Sea, but please just go for it)

rapid sluice
#

But y'know, don't be stupid about it

#

Don't show up at her house with a bouquet of roses and a guitar in hand

sweet sundial
#

He can be stupid

#

It's Sea

#

He won't ever do that

rapid sluice
#

If she seems the type, just say "hey wanna go out?"

sweet sundial
#

Let him do it his way

elfin gulch
sweet sundial
#

Otherwise it would seem even more awkward

elfin gulch
#

We're in a group chat, she and I are basically the only ones talking

elfin gulch
#

Also she knows me

rapid sluice
#

Important question that I think we forgot about, do you know her IRL

sweet sundial
#

Who cares

rapid sluice
#

You?

dawn zenithBOT
elfin gulch
#

Thrice

#

4 times

rapid sluice
#

Oh nice

#

Frfr just do it your way

#

But I'd just ask if she wanted to date, at least that's how I was asked out lmao

sweet sundial
#

All people that asked me out were awkward

#

And younger

#

And mostly cringe

#

So i can't help you there

rapid sluice
#

I've only been asked out

#

Never the other way

sweet sundial
#

Same

#

Like i said

#

Being horny is hard

#

Well there's this girl i knew for ages

#

And i'm pretty sure i liked her at one point

#

But that feeling kinda died

rapid sluice
#

Imagine?

#

I've turned down every person that asked me out

#

Aro moment

sweet sundial
#

Same

#

Don't wanna

rapid sluice
#

Cheefe?

elfin gulch
sweet sundial
#

Since like

#

9 years

#

Nearly daily

rapid sluice
#

No

#

Ask Hozy out

sweet sundial
#

Hey Iris... wanna be m-my... good morning fellow?

rapid sluice
sweet sundial
#

Well, i guess i cannot replace Luca

#

2 o'clock, i believe

#

He's from Italy, right?

elfin gulch
sweet sundial
#

It's tavern after all

#

We got filled with booze (cringe) and started blabering nonsense

elfin gulch
raw lodge
gritty lichen
#

Woah sea's relationship consult time

#

Is your friend in HCM sea

rapid sluice
#

Poppyevil's sage advice?

elfin gulch
#

(but also BD is 1 hour bus away)

gritty lichen
#

Tbh just find a nice coffee shop or cake shop and be like "hey I see this place on fb looks interesting but I don't wanna go by myself/it's boring to go alone would you mind tagging along?"

#

There

#

There are plenty of nice coffee shop and cake shop in hcm

#

People do it all the time

elfin gulch
#

Wow that's how people usually meet up?

gritty lichen
#

Yeah

elfin gulch
#

I have never gone to a coffee with friends

#

Not counting you guys ofc

gritty lichen
#

Especially since you just move to HCM and don't have a lot of friends, it's normal to ask someone to hang with you to try new place

elfin gulch
#

I am staying with a friend

gritty lichen
#

Most people don't wanna try new things/restaurant alone

#

Don't think too much

#

Just use what I just type

#

People ask friends to try new place w them all the time

#

My friends almost never wanna go to new coffee or places alone

elfin gulch
#

But you saw me in public, what do I do

gritty lichen
#

The deeper you overthink the more awkward it will be

#

So just send her a msg like that

elfin gulch
#

Odd to send someone a Mobile Suit Gundam but aight

gritty lichen
#

See her outside and see if you guys will click

elfin gulch
#

Well usually with other friends

gritty lichen
#

Yeah but one on one is different

#

You start from first one on one and then increase the frequency

#

And see if she like hanging out w you

#

Or invite her to Frieren cord I'll have a talk w her

elfin gulch
gritty lichen
elfin gulch
#

We went to a bookstore

elfin gulch
gritty lichen
#

Just hang out with her one on one more often and send out feeler

elfin gulch
#

She will definitely see something sus (she knows I don't go outside much)

gritty lichen
#

Tbh if a girl hanging out and talk to you all the time more often than not she probably likes you enough

gritty lichen
#

Lol

elfin gulch
gritty lichen
elfin gulch
#

I never talked to girls ok

#

We went to the same high school but only started talking after we graduated

gritty lichen
#

Just sending out signal and keep hanging out with her and if she keep hanging out with you then it's a good sign

#

Then you can think about confess at that point

elfin gulch
#

Ok I will trust you, cause I rushed things once and it was not a pleasant experience

gritty lichen
#

Yeah

#

Unlike manga where you just have a spark and then bam confession

#

Irl you build up the connection slowly

elfin gulch
gritty lichen
#

By hanging out with each other and increase the frequency you see that person

#

So hang out with her one on one for like 10 more time then you can come back here and ask about confession

elfin gulch
#

Talking like you know how to hang out with a girl, nice

elfin gulch
#

So at least it's not impossible?

#

What do people do when hanging out tho

#

You don't, biggest mistake you'll ever make

#

I will tickle your feet

gritty lichen
#

Eat

elfin gulch
gritty lichen
#

Walk around q1

elfin gulch
#

Again, you saw me in public

gritty lichen
#

There are a lot of cute store you can window shopping

elfin gulch
gritty lichen
#

Go to Moji

gritty lichen
elfin gulch
#

We never talked about such things

gritty lichen
#

Go to Moji it's a cute store with a lot of cute things and you can laugh at cat balls plushie

elfin gulch
#

Usually she will tell me about gay men fantasies

gritty lichen
#

Idk just invite her out and crack your brain and don't look at your phone lol

elfin gulch
#

(oh yeah she's like me also, never had a relationship)

elfin gulch
#

Also I wanna go to the zoo with friends once, does that help

#

I like watching animals do animals stuff

#

Also how to cope after it fails

gritty lichen
#

Yeah zoo is fun

elfin gulch
elfin gulch
#

Time to sleep for morning shift

rapid sluice
#

Why does healthcare suck ass

#

The public healthcare doctor's appointment is next year, just to get diagnosed with dysphoria

raw lodge
#

when is mili?

rapid sluice
#

Next year

#

Well whatever, if it comes to it, I can initiate the gun plan

raw lodge
#

stop

#

IDK whether you're joking or not, but trust me, that shit's not gonna help with anything and prob wont even work

rapid sluice
#

Idk

#

I just know that it's cringe af

raw lodge
#

yeah

#

IMO you dont need others approval, just do you

rapid sluice
#

But I'd get kicked out of my parents house

raw lodge
#

lol, but you have a job now tho, right?

#

or you can always get a job, hopefully

rapid sluice
#

Well if I do get shipped off to the military, I hope I can use their medical benefits to get free HRT

raw lodge
#

how can you even be sure they will disown you/kick you out?

rapid sluice
#

Because they said that they're only letting me even start transitioning if I get it "legitimized by a public doctor"

raw lodge
#

what does that even mean lol

rapid sluice
#

They think that I'm just doing it for a bit to get out of military service

#

Which is cringe af

#

And I can't go go a private doctor because

  1. Expensive
  2. They think I can just bribe the doctor to give me the diagnosis I want
elfin gulch
#

Are you planning to get the surgery?

rapid sluice
#

If circumstances allow for it

raw lodge
#

how old are you now?

#

19?

rapid sluice
#

Yea

rapid sluice
#

guys

#

i'm malding and seething so much

#

a 'friend' was calling people with mental conditions like eating disorders and stuff delusion

elfin gulch
#

Guessing I don't have depression since I was like 40kg (now I'm 70)

rapid sluice
#

Thing is

#

He asked me a lot about his own sexuality once he realised that he might be gay

#

So when i casually mentioned that i wanted transition, he started going off about how all mental illnesses are delusions

elfin gulch
#

That's like almost totally non-related?

rapid sluice
#

Don't ask me

#

I already called him cringe

#

And blocked him

elfin gulch
#

Text is unrelated I like based Macht

rapid sluice
#

But yknow

#

It feels like i shouldn't be able to burn bridges that easily

sweet sundial
#

Burning things is actually easier than people think

peak bobcat
#

Bridges are fragile af take it from me

elfin gulch
#

So I'll have to take the boat?

peak bobcat
#

Yep

#

Good analogy sussea

tardy steeple
rapid sluice
#

Its not even like I'm asking people to subscribe to my cult of personality, not yet anyways, but geez

tardy steeple
#

Meowwwwww

#

I'm drinks af

#

Lmao

#

@rapid sluice @rapid sluice @rapid sluice @rapid sluice

#

Hiiiii

rapid sluice
#

Hi

#

Waddup

#

I just woke up like, 10 minutes ago

tardy steeple
#

Little baby

#

Bean

rapid sluice
tardy steeple
#

Shhhh

#

One

#

And. Half glasses

#

Butu it's very string

#

Strong

#

Wine

rapid sluice
#

I see

tardy steeple
#

13% wine

rapid sluice
#

Drink water

tardy steeple
#

Fuck youuu lmao

#

I shower in waterrr

#

I have to oee

#

Peeee and I'm in a meeting

#

Peee

#

Meeting with some old friends

rapid sluice
#

Jesus Christ Bepper you're day drinking?

tardy steeple
#

No lol

rapid sluice
tardy steeple
#

It's 9 pm on sunray

#

Saturday

rapid sluice
#

Just go to the toilet and pee

tardy steeple
#

Nyo

rapid sluice
#

Why

#

Don't piss yourself Bepper

elfin gulch
#

Wow it's literally a Tavern

tardy steeple
keen jungle
#

But of course it's a real tavern when Kats gives up the hooch

keen jungle
#

lol I got bit by a person today

elfin gulch
#

What

keen jungle
#

I was giving a handicap fella a ride to the store, he got upset when I asked for gas money and started jabbing me in the face with his cane while I was driving..

#

Soooo

#

I grabbed the cane

#

And he bit me

#

Lol

#

Kinda mad :c

sweet sundial
#

What the heck

elfin gulch
#

Idk America

keen jungle
#

Nah not America

#

Just.. a 60 year old man with no discipline

rapid sluice
#

Dude

#

Go to the clinic

#

Human teeth are dirty as fuck

#

Wash the area out

#

At best, you've got nothing

#

At worst, you've got rabies

#

Maybe, you've got HIV

keen jungle
#

It's all taken care of lol

sweet sundial
#

At best you got lycantrophy

raw lodge
#

Damn

#

Thats why i dont help people

#

Cuz some of them are ungrateful fuckS

tardy steeple
elfin gulch
#

So what to do besides uhh how do you get girls

rapid sluice
#

Sea, gonna suggest that you make a solid plan first

elfin gulch
#

I'm having an inner conflict of whether I like this girl or not, and should I do something about it or should I stay as friends but was that because I desire affection?

tardy steeple
#
  1. Don't quit unless you can afford to do so.

  2. While you are still working, create a resume and choose a few job titles to apply to. You may need to tailor your resume for each.

  3. Begin applying to work and quit when you have another job.

  4. Ask the girl out, but tell her you want to be the girl in the relationship. She will value you more UwU.

rapid sluice
#

Holy hell man's seriously thinking about girls whilst on the brink of financial collapse

elfin gulch
#

Like, I work for 12 hours and only have time to shower and sleep

rapid sluice
#

Aren't you often on discord

elfin gulch
#

While doing my job (I'm slacking off)

#

Because I haye it

tardy steeple
#

Maybe reduce your hours? Just slightly

elfin gulch
tardy steeple
#

Make up for it by telling your parents you're searching for another job while working

#

They seem to be sympathetic at least

raw lodge
#

Is the girl the one you dreamt about?

elfin gulch
#

Also too late now

raw lodge
#

Y'know the one poppy gave you tips on?

elfin gulch
#

I have no day off doing the job
The pay is low

peak bobcat
tardy steeple
#

Hmmm

#

Sounds pretty urgent

raw lodge
elfin gulch
elfin gulch
#

I mean what do you feel if you're broke and some girl just celebrated your birthday

peak bobcat
#

You feel broke

peak bobcat
#

You. Feel. Broke.

raw lodge
#

Broke broke

peak bobcat
#

I hate it but I'm gonna invoke Maslow here

rapid sluice
peak bobcat
#

If you no eat. You no think of other things.

elfin gulch
#

Yeah even now I got interrupted every 5 secs I can't respond fast

elfin gulch
#

I wish I have a dog

raw lodge
#

The teacher in you

raw lodge
peak bobcat
#

I absolutely hate it

#

but in this specific case it illustrates my point

elfin gulch
#

Who maslow

rapid sluice
#

Hierarchy of needs, baby!

raw lodge
#

Yea, maslow is Very descriptive

#

And not in depth

rapid sluice
#

well i mean

#

how much leeway do you have sea?

#

are you fighting for your life everyday or is it just every month

raw lodge
#

Neither of those are any good tho

elfin gulch
#

Elaborate, like do I struggle everyday?

rapid sluice
rapid sluice
raw lodge
#

Theres no future in any of those options imo

elfin gulch
#

I don't think so, but my work can hardly afford my daily expenses which are just meals, water and my place

#

And I'm now overworking with a different payment

raw lodge
#

How old were you again, 20?

#

If you dont mind me asking

elfin gulch
#

Yeah

raw lodge
#

I c

#

Def dont quit until you have a plan B imo

elfin gulch
#

And I already did

raw lodge
#

Or at least a place to live or another job

elfin gulch
#

And I already did, before both

raw lodge
#

Oh, you handed in already?

elfin gulch
#

Yep

tardy steeple
#

Start searching for a job bby

raw lodge
#

Thats tough

elfin gulch
#

I did also

tardy steeple
#

Like now lol

elfin gulch
#

Just need time to do interviews

raw lodge
#

Yeah, Apply for anything and everything

elfin gulch
#

Or a place to stay so I can ensure the work distance is near

tardy steeple
#

How much do you need monthly / daily?

elfin gulch
#

Both I can't do if I'm keep doing this

tardy steeple
rapid sluice
tardy steeple
#

Yeah

elfin gulch
tardy steeple
#

Can your parents help like

#

Tide you over

#

Get a bike

#

No

elfin gulch
#

It's insanely crowded here

tardy steeple
#

Steal a bike

rapid sluice
#

bicycle?

elfin gulch
#

I have a bike thanks

#

Or a cub as they say

tardy steeple
elfin gulch
#

I have transportation

elfin gulch
#

The streets are confusing too
And I haven't been going out much

rapid sluice
#

bicycle?

elfin gulch
#

No a cub

#

Super cub

#

Similar thing

#

The thing you see in the top gear videos or smth

rapid sluice
#

no as in, ride a bicycle instead?

#

and how much do you spend eating out?

elfin gulch
#

Still crowded

#

People go on the walking lane here

elfin gulch
#

And yes I tried cooking myself

tardy steeple
#

Don't cook yourself

rapid sluice
#

honestly if you're hella struggling, buy a loaf of bread and sustain off that

tardy steeple
#

Cook other ingredients

#

Don't buy a loaf of bread

tardy steeple
#

That's how idiots do it..buy dry beans and rice in bulk

elfin gulch
#

I'm bigger than most Vietnamese, so I eat more too

rapid sluice
tardy steeple
#

Beans and rice tend to be cheaper and they carry more nutrients

#

All you have to do is soak the beans

rapid sluice
#

we've established that sea cant even cook rice, much less anything else

elfin gulch
#

Oh yeah rice is one thing I can afford

tardy steeple
#

Boil the rice.

elfin gulch
#

Vegetables however

tardy steeple
#

Then add them together

#

If you have a pot, you get dried beans, you buy uncooked rice. Some basic veggies (think leek, onion, potato, whatever is cheap)

#

I will literally step by step walk you through

#

How to meal prep a bunch of food

rapid sluice
elfin gulch
#

But also my food isn't the most worrying thing cause according to my calculation, new job + new place will fix thay

#

This place is just a scam

tardy steeple
#

Well

#

New job seems hard

#

Can you move in with your parents

elfin gulch
#

I can

tardy steeple
#

While you search for a new job

elfin gulch
#

Actually

tardy steeple
#

Oooh

#

Nice

#

Do that

#

Yes

elfin gulch
#

My parents live 2 hours away

tardy steeple
#

Move with them

#

They will take care of their baby

elfin gulch
#

Well it's necessary for the whole backstory