why would that matter?
#Tri-brigade Fire king
cinder folio
gleaming sluice
i still dunno how i'll be able to afford to complete this deck lol
bonfire is terrifying to me, populus promethean should also be expensive
solid rampart
would activate garunix and ponix
solid rampart
oh no thats fair
solid rampart
im just complaining bc its so almost good
cinder folio
it would actually be worse
solid rampart
?
cinder folio
they'd miss timing constantly and this deck would die
solid rampart
true
actually
croon is good
you have to build your deck around it
but it is good
its reminds me of the tour guide shavara interaction, if you have croon and kirin
very big if, and it is different but its a cool interaction
cinder folio
tour guide negates the cards it summons
solid rampart
i mainly just meant the dodging part
croon decklist
it’s very much high roll, but it is a good pivot piece
cinder folio
i searched for mentions of the card in the server, found a good point
solid rampart
can you tag me
solid rampart
lol
cinder folio
#ygo-general-and-deckbuilding message
cinder folio
somehow my order that has duelittle isn't here yet
it shipped in letter mail from within the same city on tuesday
i guess december mail will always be slammed by christmas shopping
solid rampart
i think so too
cinder folio
trying this at locals tonight
if i don't get my mail with duelittle i'll be playing underworld goddess i guess
worn harness
Let us know how it goes
solid rampart
good luck
cinder folio
thanks
drowsy horizon
Gonna try and fit in One for One and a Circle of the Fire Kings. Currently sitting at 42
mystic ginkgo
i cant help but notice that everyones side deck looks pretty much the same
solid rampart
i’ve just been stealing it i haven’t actually changed anything in mine
cinder folio
0-1-2
worn harness
What did you face?
cinder folio
tie with horus therion (lost then won in time game 2)
tie with horus tear (lost then won in time game 2)
lost 0-2 to dogmatika fire king
game 2 i was hard debating if i veiler their maximus or not, because i benefit from it too T_T
tear is just kinda rough for us
especially if they go first
the horus stuff is incredibly annoying too
needing to pop sarc first is a huge pain
some of my loss was luck, but i definitely need to practice more
one game i had the most cracked hand of all time
wanted, sky burn, kerass, sanctuary, nerval
worn harness
How did the deck feel
drowsy horizon
Seems like veilers coulda been something else Nibs maybe
Testing has me playing this atm
solid rampart
circle over sky burn is interesting choice
gleaming sluice
I'd play one each
Also personally, just me personally, I'd play 2 talents 1 called by and side droll instead
Cuz our worst MU is unchained and the least thing u want in the world is to have a dead HT against them drawn
Fenrir talents help break their boards very efficiently
Also called by is called by
<croon>
arctic isleBOT
<croon>
Limit: TCG: 3 / OCG: 3
Type: 
Winged Beast / Effect
Attribute: 
FIRE
Level: 
3 ATK: 800 DEF: 1000
gleaming sluice
Guys for your own good don't play this xd
solid rampart
watch me 🙂
solid rampart
yeah it didnt last long
drowsy horizon
Just beat lab back to back same guy, good matches
My games are too grindy sometimes I wish I had better stuff in the ED to utilize
Gotta think on it
solid rampart
sunlight wolf and duelittle are ways
thin knoll
Do you need to run 2 Sacred Garunix?
gleaming sluice
<duelittle>
arctic isleBOT
<duelittle>
Limit: TCG: 3 / OCG: 3 / MD: 3
Master Duel rarity: 
Super Rare (SR)
Type: 
Beast / Link / Effect
Attribute: FIRE
Link Rating: 2 ATK: 1400 Link Arrows: ↙↘
gleaming sluice
No way we stooped this low
cinder folio
Wut
It's played in the regular version post phni, and we can summon it with tri effect
solid rampart
i use duelittle chimera to recycle tri
also, apollousa feels like a scam
i want another link 4 option, everybody knows how to out it so easily
hear me out on this guys
bearbrumm + duelittle chimera into amblowhale
worn harness
I’m listening, but isn’t the purpose of a blowhale to pop it and get IP on your opponent’s turn?
solid rampart
this scenario is like best board possible
but im thinking make duelittle to pop with kirin then add back and also pop with amblowhale
could also use ip too tbh
solid rampart
is zealantis and shuraig copium?
wait yeah thats ass you cant search revolt off that turn bc bearbrumm lock
shell wind
I've thinking of two variants... one with a little Diablestar Engine to get to the Fireking part easier and one with tenki to get to the Tri-brigade part easier 🤔
I still don't have the Wanted so i was testing with only Diable, as for the consistency part they serve the same porpuse
worn harness
nice what were the matchups
solid rampart
game 1 dragon link game 2 tear and game 3 unchained
2-1 0-2 and 2-1 but i took a game loss game 1 of round two but i didn’t side out
i normally would’ve been like whatever but he was playing tear and i drew into bystials so i was like nah bro im not gonna do you like that so i just took the L
my list wasn’t complete either, i was missing rugal, ddl, 2nd shuraig, and anima
cinder folio
I've thinking of two variants... one with a little Diablestar Engine to get to t...
why not both?
oh
missed the no wanted part
olive sable
May I ask Why evenly? I thought it wasnt too great this format
solid rampart
it hits a lot of strays
it’s still a good card, just not a necessity like it used to be
also, what the actual fuck is happening to prices rn
shuraig is $5 and ddl is $12
gleaming sluice
shuraig is $5 and ddl is $12
Oh fuck I missed out on ddl
Got shuraig tho hell yeah
Ddl I think isn't necessary for the deck tbh
short wing
Could I get yalls opinion on my tri variant?
short wing
Is it cool that I post here?
gleaming sluice
Btw I had the stupidest idea: why not play an engage package? xd
solid rampart
brother
gleaming sluice
Idk if you do it in Tri per se
short wing
no absolutely not dont do it
I went ahead and modified from your comment
gleaming sluice
Kagari is fire
short wing
gleaming sluice
You just do it to either board break, possibly gain card advantage or can even use it for kagari add back engage search window anchor for follow-up
And then pop the kagari for island
short wing
I’m not particularly familiar with tri,
So if my ratios look like a crazy man’s that’s why lol
solid rampart
gleaming sluice
Can also use it to go into sunlight wolf
solid rampart
I’m not particularly familiar with tri,
So if my ratios look like a crazy man’s ...
thats an issue i had as well
i think it really boils down to preference, but i would play 2 fraktall, 2 kitt, 1 nervall 1 kerass atleast
short wing
i think it really boils down to preference, but i would play 2 fraktall, 2 kitt,...
Is there a particular reason for 2 instead 3 kit?
Drawing kit + Ponix leads to some sick stuff which is why I put it to 3 for now
solid rampart
sometimes it clogs your hand and i just like 2 to pop off garunix
short wing
sometimes it clogs your hand and i just like 2 to pop off garunix
Ah gotcha
solid rampart
lol
me too bro me too
i like all the options in my ED but my flex spots are sunlight wolf and duelittle chimera
short wing
I need to cut 1 from this,
But idk what lol
solid rampart
i would say cut either almiraj or dharc
or heatsoul tbh
also anima is better than almiraj, i was on almiraj train too but it requires a normal summon and the only thing it can use that anima cant is kitt
otherwise this is solid
short wing
also anima is better than almiraj, i was on almiraj train too but it requires a ...
I thought the other reason to run almiraj was to enable heat soul?
Again I’m learning this deck so I could totally be wrong lol
solid rampart
honestly i just like linkuriboh for that role, but i dont even play heatsoul lol
my only gripe with almiraj is that is has to be a normal summon
and i just hate that sometimes
short wing
Makes sense
obtuse sparrow
Yea if you cut the heatsoul i like anima over almiraj
Ive has too many hands where i didnt NS a starter and i just cant make almiraj
solid rampart
^
olive sable
also, what the actual fuck is happening to prices rn
A combination of buyouts along with everyone wanting to play fire kings but not everyone having Wanted
obtuse sparrow
Lol
obtuse sparrow
Irs not that crazy now is it? The rest of the stuff still seemed cheap besides shuraig
olive sable
Good thing I got all my tri-brigade stuff way before
solid rampart
it still is really cheap tbh only a few things went up
it’s probably more like $70 now
worn harness
it still is really cheap tbh only a few things went up
So I did some test hands with ablowhale and I think it’s not bad. Helps you play around evenly and can turn your 3-4 interruptions to 6-7 potentially
solid rampart
can i see a line?
worn harness
I think I will put it in instead of a second garunix
worn harness
can i see a line?
Sure one second
worn harness
Yeah it was a flex spot in my extra
worn harness
can i see a line?
So the caveat to this is that you need to have a way to get kirin to your hand or ablowhale is just sitting there. Also have a beast to discard for kerass. Essentially the same play you do for appolusa you do for this instead you make sure to make an IP as your link 2 with bearbrum.
worn harness
This is on your turn. You make bear rum first and then make IP with the garunix and kerass (or whatever you used to summon bear rum) then use those two for ablowhale. Getting revolt via bearrum’s effect.
solid rampart
you cant link with I:P if you summoned bearbrumm thro ugh a tri effect
they tri type lock you into link material
how do i share an omega replay i wanna show you guys this game
worn harness
Oh true I forgot okay nvm then
solid rampart
i only know bc i was testing that exact same scenario lol
drowsy horizon
Ddl I think isn't necessary for the deck tbh
Ddl is the best link monster you can summon besides Shuraig. Ddl is really good
solid rampart
its spheres at home
worn harness
Ddl?
obtuse sparrow
Double dragon lord
worn harness
Ohhh
thin knoll
Why do people still play Rugal iver 2nd Ferrijit?
shell wind
Sometimes comes up, easy access to turn 3 access code
drowsy horizon
Rugal is clutch in this build, being able to get a fire king back from GY comes up sometimes
shell wind
yep, in some hands it is better to end on rugal instead of a 2 mat apo
thin knoll
Sometimes comes up, easy access to turn 3 access code
Just Play Doom Eagle instead, itI would play it for Tear anyways
thin knoll
Rugal is clutch in this build, being able to get a fire king back from GY comes ...
I don't think grindgame is the issue of the deck tbh
shell wind
is for combos going first
drowsy horizon
Not talking about grind talking about ending on rugal and revolt
shell wind
if you go for revolt, liking away Brum you will end with no fires on field or hand
So you can revive Barong for example and now you Kirin is live and you will get another search
Also makes the revolt line less vulnerable to Cyclone/Duster/Lightning
drowsy horizon
Ive ended on him to get back a fire to pop with kirin next turn when I didn't have ponix coming back to hand or a barong search
Then he climbs into Accesscode, idk he's pretty versatile to me
shell wind
Also makes the revolt line less vulnerable to Cyclone/Duster/Lightning
As you can use revolt on response, but not trigger Shuraig, then use rugal when you want to do it
thin knoll
that makes a lot of sense tbh, I would side things like that against fire kings
drowsy horizon
I've had rugal with IP as well
The card comes back to hand too if they don't destroy it
worn harness
That’s really good. I only got IP through using Bearbrum’s effect though
obtuse sparrow
How many Tri-brigade names are people feeling? Ive been on 10 for a while but sometimes it feels like too many
void charm
How many Tri-brigade names are people feeling? Ive been on 10 for a while but so...
4 frak, 3 kitt, 2 nerv, 1 kerass. I also agree it feels like a bit much but im not sure how i'd change it
obtuse sparrow
I like opening either kit or frak but nervall and kerass are the ratios im concerned with
void charm
you can't go 0 kerass, and upping is a no go. You can go to 1 nerval but if you draw it, it's kinda a wrap
obtuse sparrow
Yea i was on 1 nervall and drew it was so sad
void charm
Yea i was on 1 nervall and drew it was so sad
so it is kinda just a it is what it is type-beat
obtuse sparrow
Lol
void charm
u can decrease frak, tenkyi, maybe kitt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FIoY2MHROw just came across this video from a creator i like. 2 circle? Little kirin? Anyone have opinions on those cards? I never even considered them
shell wind
1 circle is good because It synergies with the deck, as you can resummon kitt for example,but i feel that 2 is too much, original kirin allows for destroy It instead of kitt to get and extra body in the GY to do tri Plays,also work for time,as you can destroy it with garunix,sending scattershot with its effect
void charm
1 circle is good because It synergies with the deck, as you can resummon kitt fo...
Is this like, better than just not playing them though? Those interactions seem niche.
void charm
ive been looking to replace the monkey with something, maybe og kirin does it
thin knoll
Extra Tri in gy seems kinda redzndant imo. 2 instead od 3 doesnt make a difference (Kirin, Kitt, Nervall)
Circle is a good followup search for Ponix tho
void charm
That is a very good point, i rarely feel like im missing guys in the gy. So maybe circle as a one of
drowsy horizon
It can come up when I labbed the combo
Ponix + a Tri type you can banish for 4 after Kerass instead of 2-3
I'm working on what would be the best use of that extra card
drowsy horizon
Lol yeah its kinda complicated lol
shell wind
As kerass needs a tri-type
Only the only Tri combos or the only FK combos can be acomplised with 1 card
Tenki/Fraktal or Diabel/Ponix
drowsy horizon
So Combo 1
With the old Kirin in your list you can end on DDL as well, but you lose a card in hand
So ehhh
Or you can end on SP knight, DDL, Kitt, and Revolt with 1 in hand
It just makes the Ponix plus a tri type that isn't Kitt a little better
shell wind
Yeah
I don't think is worth
DLL is good, but if you had a good non engine sometime is better to hold on that
I still have problems with 1 thing
And it is the extra deck
Like, this variant has like 3-4 free spots
But i dont know what to put there
I still have to test 3 Omens
As maybe 2 is enough
drowsy horizon
Yeah nothing really stands out
shell wind
https://youtu.be/7F71LfOk7S0
If you play the Wanted/Diabel Package any Ponix + tri-type combo becomes Just the diabel, as you still have your normal 🤔
drowsy horizon
Hmmm true and in that scenario the extra dump especially wouldn't matter
I'm just unsatisfied with our endboard
Apo feels so vulnerable
shell wind
Apo is a bit meh yeah
drowsy horizon
The nastiest board is that Fraktall plus a Tri type
but it loses to if your opp even looks at you wrong
shell wind
That's why i try to maximize on the FK endboard more than Apo, trying to get to revolt
shell wind
I run 3 Fraktal/3 Kitt/2 Nerval / 1 Kerras. But i dont run Tenki, instead i run the Diabel Package
So you see more Ponix
drowsy horizon
Cause sometimes I feel like the only names I really use are kirin and garunix. I'll pop the barong if possible but many times I will go kitt for the follow up
shell wind
Depends on my Non engine in my hand. If it is good, like droll + imperm i usually go for the FK normal combo with I:P, then i use the Ponix and Garunix next turn to go into Omen + Access to close the game
If i had a good Tri-name Hand then i try the Tri-Lines
Like if i open Fraktal or Kitt i always try to get there
Diabel also Helps with that
Wanted + kitt goes nuts
This is my version (I dont own the wanted yet, but i have 3 Diabel, Combo speaking they are the same)
100% i can go to 40 if i cut the Circle and Ranbali
I'm just testing thing our
shell wind
The nastiest board is that Fraktall plus a Tri type
You can make a less greddy line, where you summon Brum, then normal Ponix, and you do the standard FK Combo, then link Garunix + Brum into Rugal
drowsy horizon
What's the normal IP fire king combo
drowsy horizon
Hmmm I feel I know that but I'm drawing a blank
shell wind
This
In standby you will add kirin and ponix, then you can revive with rugal barong for example
Pop it with kirin, you can pop another kirin, pop anothe card. If the tri-type was Arvata you can revive it with kirin if you summoned it with revolt
drowsy horizon
Ah okk ok I see what you're saying now
void charm
I'm working on what would be the best use of that extra card
You got this i believe in u
Could also run 2 elephant in the spot but idk about that.
drowsy horizon
With the old Kirin in your list you can end on DDL as well, but you lose a card ...
So you can replace that DDL with an IP actually
Trade 1 card for an IP seems worth
It requires the old Kirin tho
You get Bearbrumm out on the 5th summon too
solid rampart
how many nonengine slots are you guys running
idk if this deck is better with heavy engine or nonengine ratios
cinder folio
part of me is debating running just fraktal, no tenki, but i'm not sure (for spoils variant)
lol, i saw the comment about this thread being 1.2k comments...i'm over 500 of them
cinder folio
i haven't gotten the chance to practice since locals on monday
i'm gonna spam omega ranked a bit tonight to try more
solid rampart
i’ve been doing the same, i went 2-1 at locals but im realizing my ratios struggle to hold up against high output decks
like dark world
solid rampart
i think not enough engine
cinder folio
i was gonna say, no amount of non-engine short of droll stops them unless your hand is full of it
solid rampart
i’m going to up my engine
cinder folio
cracked hand:
belle was wanted
i added belle and got drolled
jokes on them
actually
this kinda does nothing without that...
shit
i could make like a link 2
but why?
also it's the mirror, rip
well not tri, but still
also the mirror is such an interesting matchup, like any fire king variant vs another
shit:
the more i watch combos from the snake-eyes version the more i feel like that version is unreal
it puts up so much interaction from nothing
gleaming sluice
was trying the dumb idea that is engage engine instead of fenrir and how explosive it can be
game 2 was a really nice showcase of it working, definitely need to test it more
cinder folio
oh god, mudragon is reciprocal >_>
they make it fire, you can't target your own guys XD
cinder folio
true
also lol, they activated sanctuary, but didn't place island?
wut
had to be a misclick
what a great hand...if i was going first:
i love the hand though. normal kit, make almiraj, circle almiraj for kitt which summons ponix
plus i'll have nerval in gy and fraktall in hand
oh no T_T
they had sky burn
and ash T_T
the fool!
ok my opponent is an idiot
they added sanctuary to hand with ponix...then played island from hand...so i pop it, then pop ponix with sky burn
they spoly...in the imperm column
¯_(ツ)_/¯
gleaming sluice
whats the engine?
2 engage 1 widow anchor 1 hornet drone
same as fenrir really, you don't wanna topdeck it turn 3 unless on an empty field and the deck kind of already loses to droll so that "you get drolled afterwards" doesn't really matter
cinder folio
the more i play this version, the more i feel like it's a more easily disruptable version of pure (both the tri version and the tri spoils version)
but it also has the downside of less slots for generics
when it goes off its insane
ok
remember how i said it's insane?
normal summon fraktal, effect, kirin pop it so it resolves
the other set was skill drain XD
i made ddl and had it send itself for cost
i love that tcboo barely hurts us
shell wind
i added belle and got drolled
You should always use wanted in the draw phase to not get drolled
glossy swan
I'm sorry how is 3B-fk more disruptable than pure? From my experience the 3b engine gives you more lines of play in case of disruption, whereas pure/sinful spoils are still all about resolving ponix
I don't have much experience with all the variants so I might be wrong but I am curious 👀
shell wind
I dont think so
I mean,is a 1.5 combo into revolt
With apo
But you need another fire
polar pilot
I have some questions about where to take the lines depending on what engine you start with. If open fire kings only do you go for the et garunix play or down the trib route? Specifically on the garunix pop the choice is barong or kit/smollkirin. I'm pretty new to the deck just a heads up
drowsy horizon
I was thinking about that or things similar
Many roads lead through Ponix cause he provides a fire body to pop during our turn and theirs since it comes back to hand, searches sanctuary and field spell which is an interupt and access to our whole engine. So I was thinking the banish 4 play is hella risky but it's probably "worth it" to get to ponix if you can by any means.
If you open with Ponix, then you're looking to get Garunix online, from there depending on your hand youre at a crossroads
You can Garunix pop a FK related piece to give you some additional interaction on their turn or pop a Tri piece to lead to a revolt line
This is in general simplified terms, but just a general flow charts of how I have been trying to structure my combos
shell wind
Also depends alot on the MU
drowsy horizon
If you can't get to ponix is when it gets difficult so I was thinking try to supplement that and run a 3rd Sanctuary
shell wind
Sometimes Apo is more impactful than the board wipe
And sometimes Apo and Revolt are meh
drowsy horizon
If you can't get to ponix is when it gets difficult so I was thinking try to sup...
Cause atleast that does 2 out of 3 things ponix does
drowsy horizon
And sometimes Apo and Revolt are meh
Was thinking about more FK names to try and subvert that
Like the spell negate one
Especially since he can SS from hand
shell wind
One of the strength of the deck is that It really versatile,both this version and the "pure" versions
drowsy horizon
Like to make that fork in the road when I choose the FK route to be a little stronger
shell wind
Like the spell negate one
🤔
drowsy horizon
I was also underestimating sitting on a arvata or a big ass body and making them deal with it
shell wind
I was also underestimating sitting on a arvata or a big ass body and making them...
Arvata control is way stronger that it seems
Like maybe you hand was arvata/garunix/kirin
Arvata pass is a strong play there
drowsy horizon
Right
polar pilot
I think the hard part in the beginning is figuring out when extending into the other engine is worth and when just one engine is enough.
obtuse sparrow
Yea it’s challenging to not blow resources overextending
polar pilot
How many Tri names? Specifically kit and frak.2 Nerval and 1 keras seem right
obtuse sparrow
I think this version has worse grind than pure so you really have to think about if its worth to dig so deep
Im on 3 frak 3 kitt rn
polar pilot
With how many sanc/fki?
obtuse sparrow
I like opening kitt and ponix
2 island 3 sanc but i havent played with their ratios yet
obtuse sparrow
Fair im still trying to get the ratios right and figure out how much non engine i want
cinder folio
You should always use wanted in the draw phase to not get drolled
That would require me to hold left click fast enough 😭
cinder folio
I have some questions about where to take the lines depending on what engine you...
I go the tri route if I have kirin in hand already
obtuse sparrow
Having kirin already does make tri a lot better
cinder folio
It's very hard to do both full combos through handtraps
So if you are in the fk half go all the way, if you're in the tri half go all the way if disrupted
The issue with trying to keep doing both is you banish fk cards
shell wind
Droll and nibiru are a problem
drowsy horizon
I've committed to only 12 non engine, trying not to go over 42. And I copied Jess' strat who won euro's on Rikka she was on Race at Bologna and mained 3 Talents 3 Eclipse so I'm going that route with 6 other HTs. Only played a few games with it
shell wind
Also imperm/ veilers if you didnt open kirin
cinder folio
Also I swear I want to cut my tenkis because of droll
drowsy horizon
Oh yeah I did
shell wind
Also I swear I want to cut my tenkis because of droll
You can play without it
obtuse sparrow
Everytime my kerass or fraktall get impermed/veiler after the banish i get ready to go back to pure lol
shell wind
I replace It with the Wanted engine
cinder folio
One sec, I'll fetch my current list
shell wind
As now you can normal your tri and Special ponix
drowsy horizon
I used to think that, but I'm starting to look at the deck as a 2 card combo deck. Having fraktall in hand allows garunix to pop something better than kitt many times
I still don't like tenki tho, cause droll like you said is absolute murder
shell wind
Also diabel + kitt goes wild
cinder folio
so the post i made yesterday about being more disruptable is tri doesn't alleviate any issues the deck has with comboing, and is equally vulnerable
it has more grind and varied interaction, but at the cost of less non-engine, and sometimes less impactful engine
also circle is just beyond cracked in the build
kitt + circle in hand? kitt->almiraj, nerval get you fraktal
circle revive kitt, kitt make shuraig since fraktal can dump
and that's on top of follow-up plays with circle
i feel like i need to change my side a bit, but otherwise i like the list like 80% of the time
drowsy horizon
so the post i made yesterday about being more disruptable is tri doesn't allevia...
Yeap lowkey why it's been stressing me out lol
obtuse sparrow
The wanted stuff is def good here i just refuse to spend money on it lol
cinder folio
i saved literally 400$ canadian post tax by pre-ordering XD
i needed them for infernoble
obtuse sparrow
Pain
drowsy horizon
Yeah I got mine for 50
obtuse sparrow
I bought the snake eyes pieces for when bonfire and pop come out. I would probably get the wanteds if they were 50 lol
cinder folio
even better, the place i ordered does equal payments XD
so i split it across 2 months, paying every 2 weeks
i'm not sure if i cut the tenkis here for more non-engine, or just like 1 fraktal 1 arvata
cinder folio
you lose a lot
you open yourself to droll another way
what's the point of specialing ponix if you can't search?
shell wind
So 3 diabel is the same as 2 Wanted 1 diabel except for the draw
cinder folio
(i saw as it's almost 10 am and i woke up at 8:30)
drowsy horizon
Thinking about Tenkis again for Arvata
cinder folio
true, and sending kitt from hand is great
shell wind
Yep
drowsy horizon
Like if they have droll I'm probably dead anyways right lol
cinder folio
i think it's just better to play less tenki and more arvata XD
shell wind
Also i play 5, 2 sinfulls 3 diabel because the spell plus any normal is also combo hahaha
cinder folio
that's not bad
shell wind
So the engine requirement is the same
cinder folio
it's better than trying to do that stuff without wanted in infernoble
cinder folio
i'm still not sure on tenki vs more tenki targets
was only 150cad for me 😛
i'm winning so hard on that stuff, feels good
now oss and flamberge went up
i have extras of those in my pile of agov stuff
i make team bags of stuff that either goes together for a deck, or is stuff i pulled out of my packs for future decks
my agov pile has supreme king, snake eyes, and ken + gen
i put expensive cards in sleeves into my binder though
btw, i've yet to use the fire link stuff in my extra
except hita
drowsy horizon
Imma try Tenki again
cinder folio
hita is nice if you got ashed in an earlier turn and want to go accesscode
cinder folio
but there's also...playing more arvata
it's a balance
i think if tenki gave literally any more atk we'd hate on it less
drowsy horizon
But its really the versatility of adding Fraktall if I need him OR adding a Spell or Monster eff negate. Instead hoping to see the respective piece
cinder folio
oh, i'm not playing rangbali in my list
i feel like for some reason everyone has ditched him
drowsy horizon
Me either but I wanted more FKs or potentially useful fires
I'm on 2 Kitt and kinda wanna keep it there
3 Frak 2 Kitt 2 Nerv 1 Kerass. Sometimes I want a 2nd Kerass but idk
cinder folio
i'm looking at the sides from the ycs regular fire king lists
so much skill drain
wish we could run it XD
we could maybe run tcboo
also if we need to we can pop it with kirin on our turn
the one thing i'm jealous of from regular FK is being able to play super poly
we have no ED space
i guess in the end we can't whine about any particular card playing into droll, fire king just inherently loses to droll
drowsy horizon
My priority is the resource loop and that's really Garunix and field spell. So trying to my build my list around that logic. So Ponix is a 3 of for me. Fraktall + BBW leads into Ponix so fraktall at 3 etc. But also breaking down it further like hmmm what if I can't open either, that's why I bumped Sanctuary to 3. I'm thinking Tenki would fit that same category although riskier
cinder folio
unless your hand is perfect
drowsy horizon
we could maybe run tcboo
That's what I'm siding instead of Drain
cinder folio
i'm debating it
we play under it so well
leads to minor awkward things
but we can just pop it on our own turn
btw, i have never felt more powerful in this deck than yesterday when i had 2 garunix in rotation
drowsy horizon
Is there anyway to capitilize of Diabellestar more?
drowsy horizon
I was wanting to up the count of it and maybe drop the count of wanted to increased chain block scenarios
But yeah when on field she feels so useless
cinder folio
damage, mats for apo/accesscode
she doesn't need to be in the gy for the wanted draw 1
i feel like my MD veilers might become droll or nib from my side
and put 3 tcboo in side
though it is nice having 6 imperm basically for going 2nd
part of me wants to replace the 2 tenki with prosperity, but banish 6 feels like i could never pick which 6
although in this deck 3 is decent
drowsy horizon
Does it?
I was thinking of fitting it in but yeah I could only ever comfortably do 3
cinder folio
i dunno
like here
i shuffled my list
if that tenki was a prospy
look at the dig 3
imperm, kerass, kirin
i basically hit shuffle a bunch, then paused on one that had tenki in the 1st 5 to illustrate the point
here's an example with a bad hand, and mediocre 3
if you dig 3, get kerass. normal nerval then oss for ponix
meanwhile if it was tenki you'd grab fraktal
basically the same hand
so it really depends on the situation which is better
in that last one tenki is probably better because you can do the fraktal line, special kerass, if they imperm kerass you just oss into ponix
drowsy horizon
Prosperity kinda like a blind tenki
In terms of drawback
Still risking a droll for a look at what, 3 cards, ehhhhhh
BUT
I'm saying fuck droll anyways so I'mma try it lol
cinder folio
i'm probably not going prosperity, but its an option
just wanted to illustrate
also because i choke hard on the banish options T_T
polar pilot
Anyone got a diabellestarless list I could take a look at?
polar pilot
Wouldn't ctrl+f work on pc? I thought it searched the active tab only
cinder folio
in forums it sadly searches all threads
otherwise i'd say ctrl+f has:image
funny enough, most results are from this room
void charm
i just love this deck, having a ton of fun with it
shell wind
Small locals today, i ended 2-1 with this version
The deck felt really good to play and fun!
But It is hard man hahaha
A lot of effects and a lot of thinking during chain to use Revolt in the best spot or kirin
Probably i Will cut ranbali
It didnt come Up once
2/2 on Sanctuary / Island felt good,i opened them sometimes but i never open more than one as bricks
olive sable
Small locals today, i ended 2-1 with this version
I only got one diabelle so I might give this a whirl with two extra handtraps in place of them
shell wind
Diabell felt fantastic
Diabel + kitt is nuts,you can end on DDL/ I:P plus the FK set Up which is fantastic
Or S:P
cinder folio
i'm just trying to figure out non-engine for locals tonight:
cinder folio
?
shell wind
Ah
I was writing another thing
And i Lost It hahaha
Probably as non engine Ash and Imperm is obligatory,i would play droll in main thou
It is higher impact
You want to stop The really combo heavy
It also hits the mirror
cinder folio
i'm debating if i keep veiler in the side or try for something else
was debating tcboo earlier
it only very slightly hurts us
it makes clearing space to revolt very important
actually, it fully turns off revolt
solid rampart
spellbound and share ride are good picks
shell wind
actually, it fully turns off revolt
Yeah hahaha
obtuse sparrow
I like the 3 DBS plus one sinful spoils without running wanted its a starter and you can get a lot off of it plus preserver 3 non engine slots
shell wind
Yeah hahaha
olive sable
spellbound isn't a bad idea
Been seeing spellbound bounce around peoples side decks lately
olive sable
Eclipse?
Also I dont have wanted and only one diabelle, what would you put on their place?
drowsy horizon
Eclipse?
I copied Jess' strat who won euro's on Rikka she was on Race at Bologna and mained 3 Talents 3 Eclipse so I'm going that route with 6 other HTs. This deck lives or dies on Ponix so Eclipse to dodge Imperm/Veiler
drowsy horizon
Also I dont have wanted and only one diabelle, what would you put on their place...
One for One, Maybe 5 copies of Island/Sanctuary instead of 4, then I'd max Fraktall, then consider Tenki, 3 Ponix too of course
shell wind
Eclipse also dont hurt us going first, you can set it and use it when we have the links on fielld
drowsy horizon
You can also still pop with field spell
shell wind
Yep, because it doesn't target
Also it just requires a monster
I have to say that Sky Burn and circle where better that i expected and overperform
I like to have extra targets to Ponix search, because in longer game you end up using him a lot
And if you already start with Sanctuary, Adding Sky burn is nice
olive sable
Possibly?
I dunno how I feel about one eternity garunix so I lean towards 2
I could take out the sinful spoils stuff since literally thats all I have
arctic isleBOT
<eternity garunix>
Limit: TCG: 3 / OCG: 3
Type: 
Pyro / Xyz / Effect
Attribute: FIRE
Rank: 
8 ATK: 3000 DEF: 2000
olive sable
What no wanteds does to a man
shell wind
From all the games that i play i think that i summoned it like...twice?
Counting the edopro and the omega ones
So i think that one is good enough
But 2 can come up
gleaming sluice
Well, I went 2-2 in locals. Losses were cringe one was on time with dogwood as a 7 minutes "combo turn" that ended on one Omni, other one was legit G1 brick won, G2 brick lost, G3 droll lost
That also while trying the engage engine , I'll say this : if you fellas have engage
Use it to fuel your nearest bonfire
Took them out for tenkis and prosp again, dude who got first wanted to spar to scout me out i didnt give a shit, and weirdly enough won that. Stomped it actually
gleaming sluice
Well, I went 2-2 in locals. Losses were cringe one was on time with dogwood as a...
Losses were to dlink(brick) and Horus tear(time loss), wins were against unchained and tear
cinder folio
back from locals, 2-2
both losses were to branded chimera
that deck just shits out interaction
i've noticed a small flaw when running wanted in this version, without another spoils target very good hands become kinda mid
like you can get another ponix for linking off i guess
i was thinking "maybe i should add ash and flamberge
but at that point i may as well remove the tris
drowsy horizon
Got 1st with this tonight had a bye Rd 1 tho. 2-0-1
Want to add another card. Thinking sky burn, or crow as a 1 of. Or maybe cut an eclipse and add 2 Fenrir to the main. Then consider Econs for the side
Beat kashtira, Runick generaider, drew against Fire king neither of us had scattershot, it coulda went either way if so
cinder folio
i feel like you'd have some issues if you faced a heavy backrow deck
then again, 2 storm 1 duster
how was OG kirin?
how was ding btw? as well as 2 sp? (i have 2, just didn't figure i had space)
basically trying to figure out how you feel about the main differences
more fraktal over tenki seems fine, though i do like the ability to get arvata if i already have fraktal
i basically have all the cards to switch to your list, but i'm trying to figure out the pros and cons of the choices
shell wind
2 S:P and Wanted, 500€ build 😎
I just bought a S:P because of this deck, like It is crazy good hahaha
drowsy horizon
i feel like you'd have some issues if you faced a heavy backrow deck
From my experience we have a good lab matchup
cold copper
Anyone have a good Tri List without Diabelstarr Engine?
polar pilot
I played the first time in paper today and had a blast even tho I went 2-3.
Just gotta say that dealing with Horus after they set up feels impossible
cinder folio
From my experience we have a good lab matchup
Other questions still need answers 😛
drowsy horizon
2 SP is clutch, Ding was missed cause in the tourney I was on Knightmare Unicorn instead. Dingirsu seems good in the mirror or against unchained
What you said about Tenki is true as well, would love to search arvata but droll is around
Also I realized Apo is better than I thought
drowsy horizon
Yeah sequencing matters a ton, gotta make your first search count
cinder folio
but that's the thing
drowsy horizon
Also Diabellestarr pitching a Tri brigade was very clutch, get both engines up and running without using your normal
cinder folio
in either case you're stuck
though i guess if you had fraktal instead of tenki you're stuck with kerass in hand to summon and do small combo with
but that doesn't matter a ton since you can't get revolt XD
drowsy horizon
Right, or if you had Ponix or field spell you probably prioritize those searches
The only recourse through droll is ripping their hand
cinder folio
but what i'm saying is in bad hands it's bad either way
but in good hands the tenki being flexible is nice
drowsy horizon
Yeah if Fraktall is your only search sure I'm just saying Fraktall probably shouldn't be your first search
cinder folio
i mean if your hand does nothing otherwise it makes sense to do fraktal over normal arvata pass
the reason the hand does nothing is likely non-engine
so worst case you use non-engine
best case you succeed at risky fraktal combo
drowsy horizon
Yeah the Fraktall play is a hail Mary in my eyes. If your opponent even looks at you funny the combo falls apart
cinder folio
the worst part is it needs another tri type in hand
which you must banish
but like, if you have nothing else
¯_(ツ)_/¯
it's one of the reasons this build is worse than the othe one
drowsy horizon
That's why I don't lean on it, that's usually my pivot play or extension. If I'm starting with it I'm praying it goes through. A prayer is better than nothing tho
Alot of hands its interchangeable with any other Tri monster whilst adding 2 to GY without using your normal
I use it for it's ability to be a starter but moreso for it being a BBW and providing access to others
cinder folio
that's fair
tbh the best move with fraktal is doing the thing to get kerass or kitt depending on the hand
then doing small tri stuff
shell wind
the issue there is droll kills you if you use fraktall too
At least Fraktall by itself is apo + Revolt
By going -3
Oh no
Droll
Well,is apo(?)
Okay,if they droll Nerval you can end on apo + DDL
But going -2
Normal the Kerass, link into brum.Then use brum to resummon Kitt or Nerval, Make Rugal with Brum and Fraktal,then use Kitt to summon DDL, then link into Apo using Kitt and Rugal
cinder folio
At least Fraktall by itself is apo + Revolt
it only is if you have a tri type to discard for kerass + another tri brigade
ok, i forgot about the discard 2
shell wind
Brum hidden effect
cinder folio
i still ike the super optimistic combo with fraktal + tri type + not-kerass tri-brigade
never gonna happen, but it's cool
it's the 1st replay in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS10S1KYH9E
cinder folio
the dream is 100% the 3 card combo in that video XD
if the extra tri is fraktal or kitt you even have a fire on field to pop
though you're adding back ponix so you always have a fire to pop
but ya, 3 matt apo + sanctuary + revolt with kirin and ponix added to hand in standby with garunix & barong in gy
shell wind
but ya, 3 matt apo + sanctuary + revolt with kirin and ponix added to hand in st...
Ponix+Kitt gets you to 2 Mat Apo + Revolt + Fraktal on field + kirin on standby
cinder folio
the nice thing is depending on matchup that 2 mat apo can be sp, both are equally vulnerable to normal summon attacking over
though revolt
in that combo are you properly summoning one of the link 2s?
that's fairly important if you don't plan on using revolt before summoning kirin
although you probably will
but having a properly summoned link 2 means you only need 3 zones for shuraig off revolt instead of 4
shell wind
That combo is emergence plan if you get drolled hahshs
Wait
I was reading another message hshaha
Ferrijit was properly summoned
Using garunix and ponix
cinder folio
the one annoying thing if you can't pop ponix or have a fire left on board for kirin the entire fire king side doesn't work, mostly same if you don't have sanctuary
solid rampart
how often does second garunix come up
cinder folio
for beatdown
solid rampart
ok
shell wind
Also if you banish one for tri in extremes cases
drowsy horizon
Any combo where I can pop Barong is the best combo lol
cinder folio
summoning garunix on the turn you want to win is pretty nice
cinder folio
plus if you have one in grave you just kill kirin from deck, summon the 2nd one
solid rampart
true
shell wind
Also Opening one with a combo hand is good,as you can add kirin or arvata of the Fire island
drowsy horizon
im having a hard time with my list bc i dont have diabelli engine
Get the witch first for this build if possible
solid rampart
i currently only have 2 oss
drowsy horizon
I would maybe consider running 3 3 field spell sanct? Idk
cinder folio
the reason builds without wanted play multiple dia is because you can't use wanted to get her from gy
no
drowsy horizon
But I'm like that's half the battle when not seeing ponix
cinder folio
2 field 3 sanctuary is still correct
cinder folio
you'd much rather see sanctuary
drowsy horizon
I'm talking about just without wanted engine
drowsy horizon
Cause i was trying to make sure I see ponix like 85% of the time
solid rampart
sometimes i already draw multiples
drowsy horizon
Without witches and wanteds and original sinful that goes way down
solid rampart
i like like 2 and 3
solid rampart
^
cinder folio
the only good thing about drawing the field is if you have a play where replacing the field with a new copy and popping your field is a good move
solid rampart
im trying out 2 fraktall 2 kitt 2 nervall 1 kerass 2 tenki
shell wind
2 field 3 sanctuary is still correct
I'm still trying 2/2
solid rampart
and droll x3, imperm x3, ash x3, talent x2 and called by for non engine
shell wind
To fit better the non engine
drowsy horizon
I like 2/3 without wanted
cinder folio
2/2 is fine
i just like drawing sanctuary
makes combos better if you can search circle, or search sky burn to set
drowsy horizon
Yeap
cinder folio
nah, yeap is only if you side 3 crossout 
i feel like we have an ok purrely matchup
if you luck into sky burn you win going 2nd XD
well unless they made expurrely on their 1st turn
drowsy horizon
Not unless you play on their turn
Speaking of which
Kirin into Ponix, or Barong, or Kitt. On their turn feels great
If you have a Garunix somehow now you're insane
Almost how Rescue Ace can do their Impulse/Fire Engine type plays
Also also
With typhon you can still setup for plays next turn since field spell popping barong with a fire in hand and garunix in grave with circle on field requires no specials
I like it in the ED
cinder folio
btw, i love that sky burn doesn't care if targets dissappear before it resolves
shell wind
Just like blackout hahaha
thin knoll
#Yugioh_Neuron
shell wind
#Yugioh_Neuron
Playing Tenki i would change the ratio of kitt and fraktall, but seems like a nice build 👀
thin knoll
Won a small locals with this toaday. 2nd Nervall came up a lot, Almiraj too
Never summoned Dweller or Rugal in 3 rounds
Skill Drain was insane, never needed a 2nd Garunix
cinder folio
rugal is good for medium hands, especially if you need to put garunix in gy and won't have another fire on field
you just summon back a fire with it, then kirin has a target
thin knoll
Right, prob not gonna cut it
shell wind
Rugal is the kind of card that you go like "Yeah i dont need It" then you need It and feels awlfull
cold copper
So i played online mutch with Diabellstar Engine. Is the Tri Version so extrem interaktiv Like the Diabellstar Engine. I Love the Playstyle to Play a lot in opponents turn. Is this in Tri too? Like not a few negates, more Like pop my monsterns and opponents Monsters, search, reborn and so on
drowsy horizon
So i played online mutch with Diabellstar Engine. Is the Tri Version so extrem i...
Yes, the sequencing is important as well, zones too, hand management as you'll need to put a card back for Revolt but sometimes you may discard 2 for Bearbrumm as well. Revolt is how you will gain access to your fire sometimes so knowing when to activate is important, keeping track of Tri names in deck and GY, remembering which link monsters were properly special summoned for revolt etc etc
Sometimes you can pop kitt on their turn with kirin to get 2 names in GY and add a card with a free body
cold copper
Yes, the sequencing is important as well, zones too, hand management as you'll n...
Okay thanks for explaining 🙂
cinder folio
saw this in the tri facebook group
for people that want a list without spoils engine
drowsy horizon
Says he doesn't think the wanted engine is good in this variant
solid rampart
doesn’t wanted engine add even more synergy?
cinder folio
it sort of takes up space if you draw a good hand
it lowers the odds of bad hands
but doesn't make good hands much better
cinder folio
Says he doesn't think the wanted engine is good in this variant
btw, how did ding and typhon perform? ding i can see since he sends instead of destroying. typhon i've found extremely hit or miss when i played it in infernoble
i also still don't get the use for OG kirin
i do think going to 42 to fit 12 non-engine is a good move
cinder folio
ding feels like worse xyz garunix
drowsy horizon
Making a non sinful build again
1 Garunix seems risky not the craziest idea though
cinder folio
eww
drowsy horizon
I love slimming engine down to dangerous levels just to see how much non engine I can slide in lol
cinder folio
but removing spoils engine is something to consider, since it does nothing in bad hands
nah
having 2 is too important
the redundancy is important in this build in case you're forced to banish
drowsy horizon
I was thinking bout changing wanted ratios earlier cause alot of times they Ponix sanctuary field spell wanted sinful and diabellestarr are all the same card
cinder folio
^
drowsy horizon
So if they ash field spell youre just like ok lol
cinder folio
that's the one issue
if you already have ponix access spoils is dead in hand, other than giving 1 link material and a random draw
which is...lackluster
it's amazing if your hand is otherwise bad
but if it's good...
cinder folio
the extra link material seems worth it for making IP or SP
drowsy horizon
2500 body too
cinder folio
i like the looks of your list you posted before for the main
the books are my only concern
i like non-engine in main that works on their turn when going 2nd, but on the other hand book is good for going 1st for dodging
i feel like i'd be too tempted to make OG kirin into another sanctuary
and maybe 1 fraktal into 2nd arvata
though fraktal is much higher value to open >_>
what do you use OG kirin for? more ways to get the needed stuff in gy?
cinder folio
i think i might swap my druiswurms for crows like you
drowsy horizon
All the top lists were on Tenki...thinking bout trying it
cinder folio
the fact that fire king exists kinda makes it needed
they have actual choices for tenki to be fair
like rangbali
drowsy horizon
And prosperity but maybe they didn't open with those cards just used as extension?
cinder folio
prosperity makes sense
drowsy horizon
Tenki to add a fire? Or add a good summon off a kirin pop. Not necessarily to start
cinder folio
for us it's a bit rough as you can't easily do 6
i'm definitely cuttinr sunlight and duelittle
they've literally never come up
they're too awkward
the things you'd need them for happen before you'd summon them
drowsy horizon
Same
cinder folio
i just realized you cut almiraj
cinder folio
i know it's a desperation play
but i mean
it's better than nothing
¯_(ツ)_/¯
what are you thinking of swapping ding for? unironically it might be zeus
but maybe that's just a bit too anti-synergy
also the one flaw with typhon: fire king exists
the entire deck plays under it
drowsy horizon
Doom eagle, kinda worried about the unchained and mirror match
Ding helps but I think doom could get more mileage
Drew this up and it's been testing handing well
cinder folio
i was expecting an image to appear XD
doom eagle is interesting, since it's almost dd crow
drowsy horizon
cinder folio
i immediately hate it
so many cuts just to avoid hitting 42
i feel like the instant you lose the 1 garunix its over
cinder folio
it just feels bad, for a deck that needs to draw ideally 2 combo pieces, you're thinning them to go to 14 non-engine
as much as i liked spellbound yesterday
i think fenrir is probably more generically useful
1st or 2nd
current list based on your previous list and our discussions
solid rampart
how is fenrir into centurion?
that’s my hardest matchup fr
i hate playing into it
cinder folio
you assume that people realize the deck is a gimmick that's too expensive and not play it
cinder folio
ah
also i'm now realizing the cut for og kirin is circle
hmm
i really like circle
solid rampart
circle is so good
cinder folio
i think i like this list
solid rampart
i think that list is good
cinder folio
2 sp feels like overkill in this deck, but it's been useful for me in infernoble
solid rampart
i beat infernoble after i lost the die roll
that lmk everything right there
this deck is cracked
cinder folio
fun fact: any field spell that does nothing on activation to field beats angel ring
i always hated that when playing infernoble
cinder folio
it negates the first effect
and for example, fire king island does nothing on activation
but it still resolves
also i de-prioritized ring when i played against purrely
they have so many spells to spare
drowsy horizon
fun fact: any field spell that does nothing on activation to field beats angel r...
They can just negate it instead
cinder folio
?
do you not know how ring works?
lets say they have ring. you activate fire king island from your hand. ring is now off
feel free to play any spell you like, or activate island's effect
ring only negates effects at resolution, and specifically the first spell card or effect that resolves
when you play any spell, it resolves, even if it doesn't have an effect (technically it has an effect, but the effect is nothing). therefore playing a spell with no effect on initial activation like fire king island still resolves, and thus ring has seen the opponent's first spell resolve that turn, and every spell card or effect after isn't the first one
cinder folio
yep
i was wondering if you meant that or not
you're stuck baiting out at least 1 negate, which blow
welp, i found the situation where i want 2nd garunix xyz
bystial runick T_T
found the hand where i want almiraj
shell wind
I mean,the deck has like 3 extra Deck free spaces
I would 100% use one for almiran
Almiraj*
Not only is a bad tri hand fixer, also is a combo piece with some ponix routes
shell wind
if you already have ponix access spoils is dead in hand, other than giving 1 lin...
I think that the main good thing about Diabel is to Special summon ponix, even if you already have It,Special summon It instand of normal means that you still have you normal for tri propuses or to normal arvata
Also the Sinfulls Package is never a brick, the five pieces are a 1.5 card combos
You need a discard for Diabel/Wanted or a Normal/Tenki to activate sinfuls
drowsy horizon
Never a brick but I never want 3 copies of 1 card in hand. 3 Ponix 2-3 field spell 2-3 island, 3 wanted, 1 original sinful, 1 diabellestarr that's like 13 copies lol. What's the usual ratio that people aim for I'm curious
Technically island and sanctuary aren't copies but that was my point, most times, functionally, they are
drowsy horizon
And if people are playing smart they aren't ashing wanted or ponix, probably just field spell
drowsy horizon
Speaking on the above is why I'm back on Tenki. 3 at that
I was watching FK on DBgrinder and realized how good of a combo Wanted and Tenki are
If you have another fire you can search Arvata and insulate your entire play, send off Tenki get a "free" body and get the +1 off the Wanted draw
It play into Droll but Tri already loses to droll, plus it's not like you always NEED to start off with the tenki, it can be starter and extension. But I feel it synergizes really well with the Wanted engine and solves some of the gripes I have with it
vocal knot
solid rampart
i run 2 of everything and 1 kerass with 2 tenki
worn harness
So went 1-3 at the charity tournament. Definitely need more practice with the deck. Lost to PK Adventure Horus twice and lost a very close game to spright tri brigade (thanks to not playing around double droll) Beat Orcrust Meknight. After playing it though I find the going first board weak. Given I definitely made misplays. I do love how this deck can play through a board. There is so much extension (especially with snake eyes stuff). Given I hate how this deck eats the hand like crazy. Again could be doing this wrong.
cinder folio
Speaking on the above is why I'm back on Tenki. 3 at that
what's your list looking like now?
drowsy horizon
what's your list looking like now?
cinder folio
the main deck non-engine ratios are just not it >_>
also 2 ponix?
literally the most important card to draw?
drowsy horizon
All I do is test hand all day and adjust when not playing lol. Then I play then repeat this has worked for me and I'm climbing. 2 Ponix with no other targets besides field and sanc seems ok to me. Once you get it in rotation you're fine
cinder folio
i feel like i need to paste that recent MBT video into every chat where someone says "it's been doing well in DB"
also test hand isn't actual practical practice
drowsy horizon
My logic is okay with field spell or Tenki then extend into Ponix that way I've baited HTs
Normal Ponix is an option but I'm not living or dying on it
That's fair I respect but if something is not working then I change it and it does idk what other conclusion to draw
cinder folio
it depends greatly on too many factors: quality of opponents, their own luck/deck consistency, your luck, etc.
drowsy horizon
That and moreso I know what works for me/have a different approach
Starting with Ponix is just not it
Not normal summon atleast
Not in this variant
cinder folio
it depends at a certain point
you can favour one half of the deck over the other
it depends on the goals
btw
tcboo is questionable in this build purely because it kills revolt
drowsy horizon
Yeah I just put it back in cause I wanted some going first card, anti spell kinda risky
cinder folio
i guess
a bunch of the going 2nd handtraps that aren't nibiru, talents, or book are ok for going first
this is sort of where i'm at:
i feel like not having almiraj makes bad hands dead hands
storm socket
Idk, i feel like im missing something
cinder folio
2nd nerval?
storm socket
Does the 2nd come up often or only when you draw 1?
cinder folio
i have a legitimate question: why dharc?
all the cards you'd use to summon it either need to stay on the field, or will be used up some other way
storm socket
Take opps S:P / Diabelle
And if I see a line where Dharc would come up I usually send something else instead of DW with OSS
cinder folio
it seems so niche
storm socket
Just utility more than anything rn. Obvi open to suggestions though
storm socket
Don't own a 2nd sp tbh
cinder folio
i mean that's super fair
i shouldn't have a 2nd but i lucked out on some lorcana packs and could afford it
storm socket
This is what I'm thinking of taking to a remote regionals next week
I have 5 packs coming in the mail already from last entry so who knows, maybe the yugi gods are on my side
cinder folio
the one remote event i did was during covid and i got such garbage packs
storm socket
I usually get garbage from irl events so maybe this will be different 😭
cinder folio
i feel like not having almiraj makes bad hands dead hands
also still not sure on 2nd sp vs something else here
