#unofficial-setup-help

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distant hearth
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no offence but its 99% crying kids, not aimed at anyone in this channel, its one the better ones

brave lynx
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has WC even acknowledged that they broke serverlists again? I know of the temp fix, but it's not a perma solution. Anyone know if they are aware and/or care?

tight plank
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at least not to any of our knowledge

brave lynx
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ffs

grizzled meteor
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the wrote something about refactor ServerListing.. it got worse after that patch ^^

tight plank
grizzled meteor
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the mysteries of Wildcard

brave lynx
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I think they did this to unofficials on purpose, I really do

grizzled meteor
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I think there is more servers then their list can handle.. as it loads only 1000 on top left

proper jacinth
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ugh, still no update 😦

grizzled meteor
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or maybe the raspberry pi thats hosting the serverlist run out of ram

dusty wagon
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i got the update.. my server is working

proper jacinth
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what?

grizzled meteor
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what patch version?

dusty wagon
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looks like they changed the settings in nitrado. you have to update everything. that is why the servers arent working

grim nova
grizzled meteor
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true

dusty wagon
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my server was stuck in a restart loop. until i went to settings and clicked and uncllicked all of the stuff i wanted.. everything was messed up.. the passwords werent even there.

proper jacinth
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there is no update on steam waiting for me

dusty wagon
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sorry.. i didnt get the update.. but my server is working.. i had to update all of the settings from the nitrado page.

proper jacinth
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what settings?

eternal crater
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99% of the people here having issues are non nitrado. Non nitrado unofficial dedicated servers aren't showing up on steam server list at the moment without console commands

proper jacinth
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perhaps there is a new setting we need to activate. who knows. just don't know what that would be

grizzled meteor
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orly? nitrado does? now i also start to believe in a conspiracy.. 😅

dapper hound
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stil no update for server listing? a whole day like this

proper jacinth
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not yet

grim nova
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Nitrado has WC and Snail over a barrel with the sheer amount of money they had to take to stay afloat so its not that far fetched

eternal crater
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My server was on the list for a few hours yesterday, but then stopped

compact kindle
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I changed my hatch speed from .1 to .05 on Nitrado and my Rex eggs are still at 3 hours

celest halo
distant hearth
compact kindle
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I mated the rexes after the change and restart

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I’m an idiot I shared mating interval (which did not change either) I put egg hatch speed from 5 to 12

distant hearth
celest halo
brave lynx
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Yeah guys, I hate to say it, but we should pass this along. WC intentionally filtered out thousands of unofficial servers on purpose it seems. They want to kill off as many unofficial servers as possible. Why? I don't know, probably relates back to some deal with nitrado or something.

compact kindle
celest halo
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yes it sets them to officials

proper jacinth
distant hearth
compact kindle
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🤯🤯🤯

wise kindle
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I need my tinfoil hat. brb.

brave lynx
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How is this a conspiracy theory, they literally said in patch notes that the "problem" has been fixed. They fixed official servers showing up, at the cost of unofficial ones. This was the exact purpose of the server list refactoring. The fact that it's fixed by one little commandline is proof. there is nothing wrong behind the scenes, this is what they wanted.

proper jacinth
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WC messes things up sometimes. They have been since forever

brave lynx
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When this still isn't fixed a week later, you will be agreeing with me. Watch

wise kindle
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Your map has been gone for a week?

distant hearth
native wave
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Hanlon's razor seems appropriate with WC

wise kindle
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This seems like a conversation for #general , tbh. Not the server help channel.

native wave
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"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

proper jacinth
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^ this

tight plank
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ya also if they're purposefully trying to "filter out" all the unofficials that would be a huge business mistake. literally makes no sense to get rid of and purposefully anger people who will potentially buy your products in the future.

brave lynx
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Well, mark my words, this "issue" wont be fixed.

quartz pewter
wise kindle
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I mean tbh, they dont fix ALOT of bugs. So saying mark my words when it comes to bug fixing by WC.... you will be right at least 50% of the time lol.

tight plank
quartz pewter
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I think it boils down to what they prioritize v what they don't care about at all. And private dedicated servers they clearly don't care about at all.

quartz pewter
tight plank
tight plank
brave lynx
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Yes, they werent even going to allow non-nitrado hosts at first, i mean that should speak volumes to what is happening right now. If you think this 'server list refactoring' is a mistake... yeah, we'll see about that.

tight plank
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not saying it was a good decision but it was a decision

native wave
quartz pewter
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I think they got themselves stuck between a rock and a hard place borrowing money from everyone. Now they answer to those people and not the customer.

tight plank
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ya thats how it is rn

brave lynx
wise kindle
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I hate when they announce patches now. You just never know if or when you will get it. Its just hurry up and wait. It eats up my day trying to plan around their updates.

quartz pewter
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We don't even have a Linux binary for the server. And that is literally one check box in UE5 to have that compile at build time.

tight plank
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ya ive heard the issue isnt universal so idk whats the deal tbh

quartz pewter
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Yea I'm pretty sure that's what nitrado does in docker containers.

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And they over sell the shared space.

native wave
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I use pterodactyl to host mine...which uses docker running proton

quartz pewter
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Only if you go above your hardware budget taking into account not everyone will be playing at the same time. Then you will get tons of io delays. Aka nitrado

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I can almost guarantee nitrado has 2x the clients on one physical server than it can handle.

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That's business. Isp companies do the same thing.

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But some know how to tune that better for real life scenarios.

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Some just get a bit too greedy

lunar cloud
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Got question for modding in ASA
I run my server in proton with docker and Kubernetes and previously in ASE used to use steamcmd and a CLI written in bash to manage my mods. I.E install \ remove and then configs and commandline flags to enable them etc

For ASA, is it all purely -mods flag now ? Meaning no more additional serverside installs and hacking the file system ? Server downloads mods to the content folder and enables them at start up time ?

quartz pewter
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Just -mods=1111111,222222,333333

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And do me a favor. Go easy on the biceps bro.

lunar cloud
quartz pewter
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It will go there when they aren't updating it every 3 seconds.

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I won't inflict that kind of pain on my ci/cd

lunar cloud
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it runs like a dream in proton , memory and overal load averages actually better than ASE. My linode instance is much happier now LOL

quartz pewter
lunar cloud
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Got my entire setup in marcel-dempers / Ark-docker in the asa folder if you ever need.
There are docker compose files to run it locally , and K8s YAML to deploy
A small CLI i wrote to manage it all , i backup to S3

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on my github

jagged basalt
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There are posted server benchmarks for different server setups on Server Admin Hub.. you’d be surprised

quartz pewter
lunar cloud
dapper hound
quartz pewter
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Anyway. Good luck with the mods. It may take a bit longer to start up when you enable them as it downloads them directly from curseforge. And keep up the good work your an asset in the ci/cd k8s community.

unborn jetty
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have they released 32.33 for download yet

tacit ether
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i just tried to download it and nada 😛

lunar cloud
grizzled meteor
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uuh kubernetes ppl in da house

quartz pewter
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I have everything else set in the ini files and also have those ini's set to read only. Because ASA has a tendancy to write out the files every launch or shutdown.

lunar cloud
quartz pewter
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you also have it in your arkmanager.start file line 41 but thats just an echo

lunar cloud
# quartz pewter its in your arkmanager.start-instance file

Yeah there is some magic there 😄
All my CLI functions like start backup stop restore etc have .sh files so it keeps it neatly organised.
I like to spawn an instance (espectially when clustering becomes a thing) in seperate PIDs
The echo is there for debug purpose , then to spawn a new thread in background for each map, i use nohup to call bash to call proton so i thought to abstract it to its own start-instance file to keep it cleaner

quartz pewter
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nailed it

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What ill probably do is put all the ini stuff in a secret and mount it in the container this way Ark cant molest the settings.

spice epoch
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Anyone else’s not on the list after todays update?

quartz pewter
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@spice epoch takes about 5 minutes to show after they "refactored" lol. It should show up tho.

spice epoch
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Hmm okay thanks, it’s been a few minutes but I’ll give it a restart and a little more time

dapper hound
quartz pewter
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@dapper hound I just started my 32.21 on PC and me and my girl are now playing on it from the list. So I dont know what to tell everyone. Check your ports maybe?

dapper hound
limber pewter
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Anyone have any information on not being able to find unofficial server. I have a server hosted on a PC on my network trying to play from my Xbox. Worked a week ago. But just tried today and can't seem to figure it out

quartz pewter
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@dapper hound yes they definately changed something, as it takes between 2-5 minutes to show in the list now but It still shows up eventually. ASE used to take forever to show in the list also.

spice epoch
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More info I suppose: my girlfriend can see the server on the Xbox side, but I can’t see it steam side

distant hearth
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mine was showing 1000+ servers in the listing, used to do just 100, so i presume thats what takes it longer, more directories or w.e to look at

dapper hound
quartz pewter
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@spice epoch There is a command but I cant remember to disable the list. Its in this thread somewhere. Ill see if I can find it

spice epoch
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Open ip:port password

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Is that the manual join method ^

dapper hound
spice epoch
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Yeah it’s telling me invalid password

dapper hound
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But isn't working with server with password

distant hearth
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Ark.UseServerList 0

dapper hound
distant hearth
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^this works for a large % people, some have reported having to enter two or three times though

limber pewter
spice epoch
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Where would I enter this command?

quartz pewter
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in the console. button next to 1

distant hearth
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yea i think they tried to fix it an failed with the minor server patch today

spice epoch
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Ooop just showed up after 15

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Sorry 10*

quartz pewter
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I think they are rate limiting how they sort and serve the server list on their end, thats why theres all these problems.

dapper hound
spice epoch
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Yes

quartz pewter
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Thats what I was saying, it eventually shows up.

spice epoch
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Didn’t do the command, I was walking over when I noticed it popped up

quartz pewter
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Every time you restart it it seems to restart that timer for whatever reason

spice epoch
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Kinda annoying since I turn it on and off when I’m not home

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Thanks all for the help

lunar cloud
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they may have popped a CDN in front of it call to cache the list 🤷🏽‍♂️

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my instance once stayed there for some time even though i took it offline

quartz pewter
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Indeed

spice epoch
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Oof there’s rubber banding now

limber pewter
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Guess I will try and give it 10 minutes

spice epoch
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They must’ve broke the game again

distant hearth
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what ever they did, it broke it lol, so u wud think, why not just revert to the old version that wasnt broke

quartz pewter
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@spice epoch I think they called that "optimization"

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@distant hearth in my experience, when they dont do something obvious that usually means that you and them are not trying to fix the same problem. lol

lunar cloud
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I often get a rubber banding glitch upon login and have to kill my character and respawn to fix it. This even happened to me on ASE but rarely

distant hearth
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i get that there busy asf with all the bugs, but what i dont get, why not just roll back to what worked? or is that not something they can do

quartz pewter
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@distant hearth because the reason they changed it isnt related the problem your thinking it is. This is a new bug introduced by them trying to fix something else.

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someone keeps getting auto moderated

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Marcel is typing something in the no no list.

lunar cloud
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i dont know, its not liking something in my text, not sure what though

distant hearth
quartz pewter
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dont feel too bad. for like a week you couldnt type Rynio in the chat

lunar cloud
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But i think the reasoning behind it is they are pushing feature branches regularly which fixes a lot of things and may break old things

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I dont think they want or can roll back things as they follow iterations

languid plank
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so from what im gathering on here, i just have to wait and hope my server shows up on the list?

quartz pewter
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@languid plank Yes

distant hearth
limber pewter
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This is so annoying

languid plank
brave lynx
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The problem is that only 1-2 servers are shown per box. WC did this on purpose. If you only host 1 or 2 servers tops, you're most likely unaffected, and your servers will most likely show up. If you have more than 2 servers per 1 IP, the servers that show are RNG.

distant hearth
languid plank
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lol, fair enough

limber pewter
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I have 1 server and it won't show up

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Restarted it 11 minutes ago still not their

brave lynx
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If it's a nitrado server, there are probably other servers on your IP

limber pewter
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No personal server

brave lynx
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If it's new, it can take a day to show up on master server list, you need to let it set for a while, dont restart it

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which makes troubleshooting other potential port issues a nightmare, but this is WC for you

limber pewter
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It's just me that plays on it and I start and stop it when I am done. This is crazy

brave lynx
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Yup, WC for you. It took my servers 2 days to show up, running non-stop

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you can try to do open IP:gameport in console though

low dew
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@limber pewter sounds like a firewall issue be sure to add exceptions and port forward if needed

limber pewter
brave lynx
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I mean just try open 213.45.56.789:7777

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for whatever your ip:gameport is

low dew
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@limber pewter I've had this issue with mine if your also running any mods that haven't been updated since launch prolly good idea to turf those

limber pewter
low dew
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If you try direct connecting and you get booted it could also be a bad bat file

limber pewter
low dew
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Yea I had to switch to a server manager

limber pewter
low dew
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And that fixed it for me

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I got rid of the bat and started using a server manager that's what I changed

limber pewter
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Sorry might be a dumb question

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Wth is a Server manager lol

languid plank
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my turkey trials still wont show up so thats cool

low dew
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It's a power shell script that handles everything for asa server so it has a nice easy GUI and it's push button start

limber pewter
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Which one did you use

low dew
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Google ark survival ascended server manager there's one by a guy who user name starts with c I can't remember his name

limber pewter
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Ch4r0ne

low dew
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That's it

grim nova
low dew
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You could try that my fix is for when you can't see your server and you direct connect then get a timeout

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After getting in

grim nova
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Direct connect doesn't support passwords

limber pewter
low dew
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I believe it does you type the pass word after the IP

limber pewter
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I tried that several different ways no lucj

grim nova
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It doesn't I fought with that for the first 3 days of ASA traditionally it would be open 0.0.0.0:7777?password

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but you end up getting a black screen and no incoming connections to your server

low dew
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Open ip:port password

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I could be wrong I never tried this

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I could also be thinking of a different game

wet canyon
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PLEASE HELP ME.... I did some admin stuff and now i cannot exit Admin mode, i cant take damage or die from the elements and it broke the game for me

quartz pewter
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relog

wet canyon
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trying now

grim nova
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It does not work sadly if you use password its got to be through the server list or steam

quartz pewter
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it resets each login

limber pewter
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Might be another dumb question

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How did you get that server manager to install I can't find a download

low dew
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Just down load the zip and read the readme

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It's not a program it's a script

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Its a power shell script

brittle sparrow
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So i'm guessing the server update they did broke things? havent been able to access my server since the update. worked just fine before the update

low dew
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@brittle sparrow got any mods

brittle sparrow
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i have a few

low dew
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Any that haven't been updated in a long time could be a good place to start

brittle sparrow
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the server won't appear when i search it

distant hearth
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Ark.UseServerList 0

brittle sparrow
quartz pewter
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Heres a question, is everyone forwarding both TCP and UDP when they are forwarding ports?

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wonder if the problem is people arent forwarding udp traffic

low dew
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You can also try that console command first @brittle sparrow

brittle sparrow
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i tried that command. didnt work for me

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how long do i wait when i put that command in?

low dew
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Should be fairly instant

brittle sparrow
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ok

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then yea didnt work for me

low dew
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Have you tried direct connecting

quartz pewter
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take the ?listen command out of your launch commands for the server and try that

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Its not needed anymore

brittle sparrow
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mine has a password so it doesnt work

low dew
brittle sparrow
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i'll try mods first

low dew
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You guys uhh filtering passworded servers right

limber pewter
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@low dew not gonna lie this script is confusing af

limber pewter
low dew
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@limber pewter it's really easy to use if you follow the guide and do it once if you can write a bat you can run the server manager lol

brittle sparrow
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so mods wasn't the problem

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and command doesnt work either

quartz pewter
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@brittle sparrow try taking the ?listen off the launch command

brittle sparrow
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did that too

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oh wait take listen off too?

low dew
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@brittle sparrow take your password off and direct connect and confirm you can actually join and play

brittle sparrow
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ok

maiden bramble
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how to see more unoffical servers?

low dew
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@maiden bramble pray to the wildcard gods

limber pewter
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@low dew this read me has like no information am I missing something

low dew
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@limber pewter what are you stumped on

quartz pewter
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Im guessing it just comes down to patience. Its probably either cached like @lunar cloud said or its heavily rate limited with Nitrado servers being whitelisted. We will never know unless they tell us, and they arent going to tell us.

limber pewter
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Couple things server location and how to run it

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I don't know how far the path should be

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I took my password off and used the open command and I just have a black screen

quartz pewter
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Sounds like its a different problem then

limber pewter
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Server manager shows no one trying to join

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It's oddddddd

quartz pewter
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cant say it enough. check the ports

limber pewter
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Doing this all from the same pc

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I disable firewall all together to test

low dew
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So you couldn't join

quartz pewter
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whats your launch command. And make sure there is no passwords before you paste it in

brittle sparrow
quartz pewter
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@brittle sparrow congrats!

grim nova
low dew
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@limber pewter you should try removing ?listen from your command line as well like @quartz pewter suggested

limber pewter
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Using local ip

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From same network

low dew
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It's ok it's the ports that matter not ip

limber pewter
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server\ShooterGame\Binaries\Win64\ArkAscendedServer.exe TheIsland_WP?SessionName=NMDARK?Port=7777?QueryPort=27015?MaxPlayers=4 -NoBattlEye

low dew
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Odd using steam query think mine uses 7776

quartz pewter
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MaxPlayers is now WinLiveMaxPlayers

limber pewter
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would that make it to where i couldnt join tho

low dew
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@limber pewter your playing asa right

limber pewter
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yes

frozen atlas
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hello everyone, I am looking for a line to increase the time of my structures please

low dew
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Changes the Max players to what Jeremy put

quartz pewter
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change MaxPlayers to WinLiveMaxPlayers

limber pewter
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i can try 7776 but 7777 worked a week ago

quartz pewter
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default ports dont even need to be there technically

low dew
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7777 is the port 7776 is the quary

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Just keep what you got for now and change the Max players and try that

quartz pewter
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ArkAscendedServer.exe TheIsland_WP -WinLiveMaxPlayers=10 -NoBattlEye -ServerPlatform=ALL -mods=927083

low dew
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Little steps

quartz pewter
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Thats my entire launch command

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-ServerPlatform=ALL is the crossplay stuff that I believe is also by default.

low dew
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Cross play is enabled by default

quartz pewter
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yea

low dew
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Don't need that server platform line

quartz pewter
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I put it in there so I can change it quickly to STEAM without remembering anything lol

low dew
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I got to many console players to change mine lol

limber pewter
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So i try to join using 127.0.0.1:7777 since its the same pc and i am getting invaild server password

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but i dont have a password

quartz pewter
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see I even messed that up, its PC not STEAM lol

low dew
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@limber pewter did you restart the server

limber pewter
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yes

low dew
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Lol had to ask

quartz pewter
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@limber pewter The issue resides in your ini

limber pewter
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lol I get it

eternal crater
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What happens when you try public ip

quartz pewter
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Change the settings in your INI and then make it READ ONLY

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The server is writing the config at launch and at close.

limber pewter
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I never set that up. Didnt need it last week. I play from my local network

low dew
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There's always

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An ini game and gameusersetting

limber pewter
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Yes i have that setup

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i was talking about the public IP

quartz pewter
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If you ever had a password it wrote itself to the ini. You need to check those settings. I bet all your problems reside in those 2 ini's

limber pewter
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oh smart!!!

low dew
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Yea be in the gus

quartz pewter
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so go through all the options in there, then make game.ini and gameusersettings.ini read only

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with the server shut down.

vestal ivy
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Hello, anyone got the 32.33 version of the server ?? I am stuck on 32.21 can update more

low dew
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@vestal ivy not been pushed to unofficial

quartz pewter
low dew
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Ha jinx you owe me a coke

vestal ivy
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THX ! where can I see that information, what is pushed or not public

low dew
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@vestal ivy just assume all new patches are not pushed to unofficial

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Could take days weeks

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If your running a verify with each restart eventually it will update when it becomes available

quartz pewter
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steamdb (dot) info/app/2430930/

limber pewter
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got an incoming IP

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Maybe!!!!!!!!

vestal ivy
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I have update.bat and update with start. for the past updates in PC-patch notes: as soon it was there I was able to update server. thats why I was surprised

limber pewter
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got an IP from xbox now!!! amazing you guys are freaking awesome!!

low dew
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@vestal ivy don't expect anything from wildcard and you will never be disappointed

limber pewter
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Ok so xbox connected for just a second and then timed out any ideas?

quartz pewter
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patience

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{Breaks into song}

low dew
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@limber pewter did you actually make it in and see your character before timing out

limber pewter
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yes

low dew
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Yeah you have the issue I had

limber pewter
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did you fix it? lol

low dew
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Yes

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With the server manager xD

vestal ivy
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I have random people connecting to my server and not spawning into a world yet they disconnect.. havent figured if they TIME-OUT or just exit the game 😄

low dew
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@vestal ivy timeout more then likely

vestal ivy
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some play for a minut or two tho 😄

limber pewter
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ok back to the same thing. OK so my server address
SteamCMD = "C:\ASADS\SteamCMD"
ARKServerPath = "C:\ASADS\server"

low dew
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@limber pewter I can get on my PC and DM you and show you

limber pewter
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That would be great. I was gonna ask if I could PM you

low dew
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I'm on my phone in bed cuz I'm a no life Chad

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Nothing better to do then sit on the ark discord what a way to live lol

vestal ivy
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LOL... srry ARK 😄

limber pewter
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lol

vestal ivy
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idk how xbox works, does it have dedicated hosting or you just host from PC ?

limber pewter
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If you host from Xbox it would be non dedicated or single player

quartz pewter
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It works the same way as PC

vestal ivy
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so you can host publicly as steam client ?

quartz pewter
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yea

vestal ivy
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crossplay too ?

quartz pewter
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yup

vestal ivy
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how do you set up the ini files and so on 😮 just a curiosity

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never had an xbox in my hand

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can I connect to your server @limber pewter ?

quartz pewter
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im not sure on the server aspect of how to edit the settings. I was talking about a PC server. Not sure about using an XBOX as a dedicated server.

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I think thats done via console command on console

limber pewter
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You can only edit server settings from the game UI on Xbox if you host from it

quartz pewter
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makes sense

limber pewter
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Server manager fixed everything

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Bat file start was causing issues.

Thanks for all the assistance @low dew

low dew
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np glad it fixed it

frozen atlas
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Hello, I have my superior meat which does not stack. Do you have a solution please?

torn void
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is there a solution to having unofficial server show up again properly?

distant hearth
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Ark.UseServerList 0 try that in command console

torn void
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so that people dont have to do that

distant hearth
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has worked for majority people

distant hearth
torn void
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its killing my sever pop for people that dont understand that or console players

distant hearth
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hopefully they fix it soon, but its wc so....

quartz pewter
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Man thats terrible. Guess everyone is just going to have to go pay Nitrado.

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WC point of view

low dew
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i rather drown my self then pay nitrado

quartz pewter
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lol same

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Some people have more money than brains tho

distant hearth
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i have no choice, shitty dsl internet, stuck with wc

quartz pewter
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I get it, its your still being forced to fund a monopoly.

distant hearth
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tbh i used nitrado for ase servers, never had much issues, but they were through a friend that was affiliated, wud get almost instant support on the rare occasion needed it

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not the same for the one i had not asociated with that affiliate

hasty elbow
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Any unofficial servers getting frequent crashes with the below crashstack since 32.21?
I have 4 separate servers crashing randomly after people join. Only have Turkey Trial mod.

Fatal error!

Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0xffffffffffffffff

CL: 469280 
0x00007ff7e313fcec ArkAscendedServer.exe!Chaos::PrePreFilterHelper<Chaos::FAccelerationStructureHandle,Chaos::TSpatialVisitor<Chaos::FAccelerationStructureHandle,double> >() [E:\ASAContinuous\Engine\Source\Runtime\Experimental\Chaos\Public\Chaos\ISpatialAcceleration.h:671]
0xc10ebfa620000000 UnknownFunction []
0x000001ece1ee4aa8 UnknownFunction []
0x40f17c98c7ed67c5 UnknownFunction []
Last Replicated Actor Dolphin_Character_BP_C_2146875491
Last Remote Function ClientMoveResponsePacked

and

Fatal error!

Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION 0x0000000000000000

CL: 469280 
0x0000000000000000 UnknownFunction []
0x00000225c19839f8 UnknownFunction []
0x0101010100000000 UnknownFunction []
Last Replicated Actor Paracer_Character_BP_C_2081689757
Last Remote Function PropertyServerToClients
quartz pewter
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Wow thats a rare opinion. Glad it worked out for you.

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Unfortunately, if not for these exclusive predatory type agreements between crappy game companies and nitrado, nitrado wouldnt exist. They did the exact same thing with the game company that just shut down. Fntastik

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Fntastic

distant hearth
quartz pewter
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The Day Before was an unreal engine 5 game with recycled assets pushed to nitrado exclusivity that was released in a terrible state. the parralels are crazy. Ark just has the base of hard core supporters to carry it through.

slate vale
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they went incognito mode

quartz pewter
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Yea isnt that whole situation hillarious

slate vale
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Heard the server for TDB were so bad

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wonder why?

quartz pewter
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Nitrado servers lol

slate vale
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5 years for a full asset game is unlucky.
surely they would have been able to make a good game if they had more time xd

quartz pewter
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lol assets that were bought from the epic store that were less than a year old lmfao

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ironically, I have seen alot of the Ark Ascended assets in other UE5 games also. ferns and rocks and foliage that is.

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Heres the question I have for everyone hosting their own dedicated server. If I add the crypod mod that has 3 million downloads, whats the chance I can disable the cryopods that WC is screwing up and just continue to use the mod that works like vanilla?

eternal crater
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I think disabling the vanilla cryo engrams can be done in ini. At least that's something I'm considering.

quartz pewter
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Yea Im not going to participate in their garbage hot take about the new cryo system.

eternal crater
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I don't have a problem with it personally, but not about to experiment with compatibility with cryopod mod

quartz pewter
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The issue I have with it is that when all is said and done this game wont be Ark anymore. It will be Ark 2's replacement when they cancel it. First world problem I know but that's not why I bought this game.

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It was supposed to be OG ark with better graphics and all the long term bugs from hacking code together over the years fixed. Instead we are getting Ark 1.5, same bugs and new bugs added from features being added in no one wants. In my opinion of coarse.

low dew
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L@j.eremy. the day before launched the day before and shut down the day after fantastic actually changed there name not shut down

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What's the new cryo system isn't it just ase cryopods

quartz pewter
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no its definately not

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cant use near creatures, cant use away from fridge and fridge has 5 minute cooldown before it allows you to use a cryopod

low dew
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Oh I'll keep the mod then and disable those engrams lol that's absurd

quartz pewter
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Thats what I was saying lol

low dew
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Ya sad reality is asa is ark 2s replacement although with vin deisel as Santiago maybe not time will tell

quartz pewter
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They cant afford their bills at this point, theres no way they can afford vin deisels likeness.

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Nooblets did a video on it that there is the leadership trying to sell a really polished "first or 3rd person shooter" to anyone that will buy it.

low dew
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Ya that's why fail games is doing the lil paid packages

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We will be seeing a lot of paid skin paid goodies packages in the future I bet

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And I'm the clown that will buy them all cuz I'm a sucker for that crap

reef nest
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Hey guys has nitrado released 31.23 yet for pc?

low dew
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@reef nest it's wild card that pushed updates and no

quartz pewter
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@low dew wont be neccesary, only on official

reef nest
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So why are all the unofficial servers missing?

low dew
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@reef nest cuz wildcard don't give a f bout unofficial

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Pretty sure at least 80% of there player base is unofficial lol

quartz pewter
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Thats what Im saying, who is gonna buy skins when they can just give them to themselves

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The first day ark came out it was on like every torrent site. Its pointless to play it that way tho because they update everything every 5 seconds or so.

low dew
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Ase first year was like that

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Goodol days of 10 fpsPoglinFuego

quartz pewter
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"Indy"

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I still think its crazy that that guy took all the Ark money and tried to be an elon musk and failed. We live in crazy times.

low dew
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Wish ark had a bit more atlas in it like the water n boats

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Elon musk trying to be Elon musk is crazy

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I dig his Internet though I can live in my school bus hours from the grid and game

reef nest
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So no eta on update for offical

quartz pewter
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@reef nest they never give ETA's

low dew
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@reef nest could be today tmr or next month

quartz pewter
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And when they do its a guarantee that it wont be on that day

low dew
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It could be the day before

quartz pewter
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I just saw a video that gave an eta for Ark2. The eta was 2023

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🙈

low dew
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Ya Dec or something

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Think they ment 2032

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@hasty elbow Your crashes are related to skeletal mesh errors make sure your dino wiping with each restart

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Tells you what caused the crash in both one was a dolphin dino other paracer

quartz pewter
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@low dew do you have any idea how to hide engrams from being listed that are from mods? Im trying to hide the cryo gun and neuter gun and terminal from the cryo mod but nothing I do is working.

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OverrideNamedEngramEntries0=(EngramClassName="EngramEntry_CryoGun_Mod_C",EngramHidden=true)

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What I did was go into single player settings and disable something random like the note, and then changed the classname to the correct one on the mod listing.

lunar cloud
quartz pewter
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I tried both, but the GUI for ascended adds the config entry when I disabled lets say the note.

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So I stole the line that it added and just modified the class name.

tribal condor
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Does any body know how to join a non dedicated server crossplatform my friend is trying to join my non dedicated server im on pc and hes xbox but were not sure how to do it

stuck tinsel
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So any one find a fix for find session problem ??? we can find easely every nitrado server, but for self owned dedicated there is problem! they did it because nitrado pay them ??

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This update was so weird, never have a bug on find session, only since they "fix" it

tribal condor
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Is it possible for cross play on non dedicated servers?

quartz pewter
quartz pewter
# lunar cloud it looks correct, i use the same setting for this on ASE, but no trailing 0 in t...

The standard way to hide engrams works fine on the dedicated server, but doesnt work in single player or non-dedicated where I was staging the settings. So keep that in mind if you ever run into problems that the ini is parsed completely differently with the dedicated server compared to the client.OverrideNamedEngramEntries=(EngramClassName="EngramEntry_CryoFridge_Mod_C",EngramHidden=False,EngramLevelRequirement=0,EngramPointsCost=0) OverrideNamedEngramEntries=(EngramClassName="EngramEntry_EmptyCryopod_Mod_C",EngramHidden=False,EngramLevelRequirement=0,EngramPointsCost=0) OverrideNamedEngramEntries=(EngramClassName="EngramEntry_CryoGun_Mod_C",EngramHidden=True,EngramLevelRequirement=1,EngramPointsCost=0) OverrideNamedEngramEntries=(EngramClassName="EngramEntry_CryoTerminal_Mod_C",EngramHidden=True,EngramLevelRequirement=0,EngramPointsCost=0) OverrideNamedEngramEntries=(EngramClassName="EngramEntry_NeuterGun_Mod_C",EngramHidden=True,EngramLevelRequirement=0,EngramPointsCost=0)

summer raft
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anyone know why i can t see alot of the servers and when i try to connect with ip it says that it dosen t find any servers with that adress

quartz pewter
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Yes they fubar'd the server listing for pretty much all the unofficials except the Nitrado ones.

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@summer raft Just type "Ark.UseServerList 0" into the console and search your server again

summer raft
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how do i open console tho?

summer raft
quartz pewter
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hit the "`" key. its next to the 1 on the top of your keyboard

summer raft
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i tried that and it dosen t work

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do i need to activate it somehow?

quartz pewter
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nope

summer raft
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ok ill try again 1 sec

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it does nothing

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do i need to be in a specific tab? like join ark?

quartz pewter
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No it should work everywhere in the game

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PC right?

summer raft
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yea

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mabey there is a setting?

summer raft
hot wolf
summer raft
quartz pewter
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Man they really didnt make it easy lmfao

summer raft
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i did that

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guess what

hot wolf
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it works?

summer raft
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no

hot wolf
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console wont open?

summer raft
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the toggle console right?

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it won t

hot wolf
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yeah

summer raft
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it won t open

hot wolf
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make sure youre not typing in the server search bar

quartz pewter
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man thats not good. Most of the gameplay in this game is done in the console. Better get that working.

summer raft
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it works if i am in a server already

hot wolf
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then do it there and back out, that works

summer raft
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ok

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ill try

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ok so now when i back out it should show me alot of new servers?

hot wolf
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you should be able to find most unoffical servers now yes

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the "Ark.UseServerList 0" command is active as long as you dont restart the game

summer raft
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give me an example

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so i know it works

hot wolf
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my server, "island burb" wont list without the command

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try searching for it

summer raft
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i got a new session filter unofficial

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so that is good right?

quartz pewter
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Its not listed

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Have you ever connected to it?

hot wolf
summer raft
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same for me

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i can t find it

quartz pewter
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yea island burb isnt in the list

hot wolf
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its password protected😅

quartz pewter
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yea so is mine

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the box is checked, there is no server in the list with the name island burb

hot wolf
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me and my friends play on it every day 👍

quartz pewter
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Yea im just saying its not showing in the list for me. I dont use that console command tho mine doesnt have a problem showing up, and I have it hosted in my house.

hot wolf
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yeah, it only list while using the command

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Ark.UseServerList 0

summer raft
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well what is the password?

quartz pewter
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do you have ?listen in your launch command? Because thats not needed anymore and has been known to cause that issue.

hot wolf
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yeah, let me try to change it. i wont share my password, its meant to be private

quartz pewter
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yea its not really a password if its public lol

summer raft
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why is this so difficult

quartz pewter
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my whole launch string is ArkAscendedServer.exe TheIsland_WP -WinLiveMaxPlayers=10 -NoBattlEye -ServerPlatform=ALL -mods=932129,927083,928793

summer raft
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i won t say my oppinion on this game because of the optimisation and stuff but i think you know what i think of it

quartz pewter
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my password, admin password and session name is all set in the ini which I made read only

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@summer raft its all of our opinions pretty much, dont worry about it lol

summer raft
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what is a launch string?

quartz pewter
summer raft
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oh

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i don t even have that sesion filter to join dedicated servers 🙂

quartz pewter
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thats the unofficial tab

summer raft
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bruh

quartz pewter
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your server if your running it from the client is non-dedicated

summer raft
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oh ok

hot wolf
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?listen has no impact on the listing

summer raft
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so every password restricted server is joinable if you enter admin?

quartz pewter
summer raft
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like the word admin? as the pass?

hot wolf
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@quartz pewter what ports do you use?

stuck tinsel
quartz pewter
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default ones. when you dont specify it uses 7777 and 27015

quartz pewter
stuck tinsel
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it's not fair

summer raft
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i hate this game with all my ❤️

quartz pewter
hot wolf
eternal crater
summer raft
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in 2018 i had a 1050 ti and a i3 sixth gen and waited like 1 hour to join a single player world just to crash 2 min later and i still tried like 3 times before i gave up and that is why i got 200 hours on this game 💀

quartz pewter
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The server list may be hard coded now to only look for 27015. would explain alot and why everything is random for everyone

summer raft
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how do i change the port?

hot wolf
quartz pewter
summer raft
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i love beeing abused

dapper hound
quartz pewter
eternal crater
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Trying that now

summer raft
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how do i change port?

dapper hound
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now it's two days with this problems

quartz pewter
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?listen is for the unreal editor. Its not supposed to be used at all in the normal serving of the game

dapper hound
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Server: "[EU-ITA]Paciottiland-PvP-x4H/x2XP/x7T/x10B/NoWipe" has successfully started!

Can Anyone check if you see my server? thank you in advance boyz

quartz pewter
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It may take a minute to show.

summer raft
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🤏 this close to jumping off a bridge

eternal crater
dapper hound
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i just hope it fixed somehow. worked fine for weeks

quartz pewter
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A LOT of those settings and commands arent for ASA. so keep that in mind. Use the KISS method.

eternal crater
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Even though the documentation agrees with you lol

quartz pewter
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Even the player count is not the right command anymore. That will mess it up too.

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-WinLiveMaxPlayers=

dapper hound
# quartz pewter Even the player count is not the right command anymore. That will mess it up too...

my batch looks like this atm:
start ShooterGame\Binaries\Win64\ArkAscendedServer.exe TheIsland_WP?listen?SessionName=[EU-ITA]Paciottiland-PvP-x4H/x2XP/x7T/x10B/NoWipe?ServerPassword=?Port=7777?QueryPort=27015?MaxPlayers=70?RCONEnabled=True?RCONPort=27020?ServerAdminPassword=password -NoBattlEye -Culture=En -NoTransferFromFiltering -ClusterID=Pash342kz -mods=928793,928621,929868,930829,927131,900062,933447,926956,914844,912902,916922,908148,936660,928708,927083

exit

quartz pewter
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ok theres alot going on there.

hot wolf
dapper hound
dapper hound
hot wolf
quartz pewter
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?listen =Culture=En and -NoTransferFromFiltering and ClusterID=Pash342ks along with the - dont need to be there at all

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Those being on, can cause problems if they change something that notices that flag.

hot wolf
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culture=en is useful for some

dapper hound
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oh ok! so i have to remove even the (-)

quartz pewter
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Even with the INI, if its not valid it ignores it. culture en is default.

dapper hound
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ok, i will try to remove this things and then restart

quartz pewter
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The session string being that long in the command line can also cause issues. I would set all that stuff in the INI. Including your admin password and then make the game.ini and gameusersettings.ini read only

dapper hound
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when i remove ?listen should i put a space between it and session name?

quartz pewter
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my whole launch command is ArkAscendedServer.exe TheIsland_WP -WinLiveMaxPlayers=10 -NoBattlEye -ServerPlatform=ALL -mods=932129,927083,928793

hot wolf
dapper hound
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let's wait a bit and then check

quartz pewter
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you can add [SessionSettings] SessionName=[EU-ITA]Paciottiland-PvP-x4H/x2XP/x7T/x10B/NoWipe to the GameUserSettings.ini

hot wolf
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i use AltSaveDirectoryName= & SessionName= password and ports etc in the launch command so i can run multiple

dapper hound
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restarted correctely, can you guys be so kind to check in 5 minutes?

quartz pewter
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along with RCONEnabled=True``````RCONPort=27020``````ServerPassword=`````` ServerAdminPassword=password in the [ServerSettings] section

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Then you can remove all that from the launch command.

lunar cloud
quartz pewter
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@hot wolf is correct, as it will interfere if you run multiple instances.

dapper hound
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i just hope it pops up now

quartz pewter
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Its easier for most people that havent dedicated their life to the command line to read an ini rather than figure out how to escape a character or when to use quotes lol

hot wolf
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and i would advise to stay away from port 27015 if possible, since other games uses it

lunar cloud
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Yea correct, keep the command line simple if you're new for a start, but i would advise to get used to it and slowly place things that would change between instances like ports in there eventually so you have multiple batch files per instance like island, scorched etc.
Because when the new maps come, the newbies will want to cluster eventually 🙂
Good to skill up slowly

quartz pewter
dapper hound
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[EU-ITA]Paciottiland-PvP-x4H/x2XP/x7T/x10B/NoWipe it's on for 8 minutes now, if any of you can check from pc, thank you in advance

quartz pewter
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nope not showing on my end.

hot wolf
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i see it

dapper hound
hot wolf
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untick show password protected @quartz pewter

dapper hound
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on pc?

hot wolf
dapper hound
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@hot wolf @quartz pewter you two should be named mediator for this channel

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you are actually helping people

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thank you very much.

quartz pewter
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Yea its not showing on my end.

hot wolf
dapper hound
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oh so only if you use Arkserverlist 0

hot wolf
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should list normally soon if you removed ?listen

hot wolf
eternal crater
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Yeah mine isn't up yet after removing listen and cleaning up a bit. Might give it an hour or so though and see

quartz pewter
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@lunar cloud is the expert in the room when it comes to production environments. He is correct for best practices. Every situation is different and theres about 10 bazilion ways to deploy these things which is why they never like to work lol without being beat into submission.

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Even the ini is weird. as you cant set the player count in the ini, but the server writes the correct value there but doesnt use it. So that has to be in the command line.

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and its hard to write the command to get spaces in the session name in the command, but easily done in the ini.

lunar cloud
quartz pewter
eternal crater
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I've got a python asa server manager utility I wrote used by a handful of hosts, gonna have to publish a new release if removing listen actually fixes

quartz pewter
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do you happen to be writing a powershell script along with it?

eternal crater
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Yeah the only way I could get it to work in python was by writing a .bat file and launching it as a subshell process

hot wolf
quartz pewter
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check out /Ch4r0ne/ARK-Ascended-Server-Manager on github

eternal crater
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Very familiar, yes.

quartz pewter
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he has a python script he has been writing along with a powershell script. lol

eternal crater
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Mine is /aliig/arkserversuite

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Pretty basic, but works nicely and supports multiple ark instances on a pc

quartz pewter
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I found it and the python script was a mess. I re-wrote it for fun using classes and changing the ui to customtkinter and I was going to do a PR. I went to push and looked at the repo again and he rewrote the whole thing with classes. 🤦🏻‍♂️

eternal crater
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And arkapi

quartz pewter
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Was fun none the less.

eternal crater
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Working on building a UI too, but have lost momentum working on it lol. I liked customtkinter for a bit then went with ttkbootstrap

quartz pewter
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custom tkinter allowed me to make it look modern and give it a dark/light mode with minimal changes to code.

hot wolf
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removing ?listen worked for @dapper hound

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his server just listed normally

dapper hound
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yup, it seems dum and jeremy were right

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actually ?listen need to be REMOVED

quartz pewter
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@eternal crater glancing at it it looks pretty amazing. Love the discord integration because apparently now discord is life.

dapper hound
quartz pewter
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I think what everyone needs to do is completely start over to be honest. Send it bare minimum with no settings changed at all, just launch the server with nothing and see if it shows up. Use default everything.

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move your save folder, move your config folder. let the server regen all of it.

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Then change one thing at a time until it breaks, then dont do that again.

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Because they are clearly changing foundational things with this game, and they are about as transparent as a brick.

hot wolf
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both mine and @dapper hound's servers just unlisted randomly

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i know, we are trying to find a way to not use the command

quartz pewter
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yea thats a workaround. But something is causing it to happen as I dont have to type that and my server shows up perfectly.

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along with cough, nitrado, caugh

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three if you count just getting it working right

eternal crater
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@wanton hinge gotta keep up with the convo. Apparently some people here with their own servers like Jeremy have their servers listed

dapper hound
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cutting out unofficial servers it very very rude.

hot wolf
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@quartz pewter possible to get your server name so i can see if it lists?

quartz pewter
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The Pleasure Palace

dapper hound
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i hope for them

quartz pewter
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Just type in pleasure. lol

eternal crater
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what's different in the launch options between the one that works and the ones that don't?

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not saying that's the root of the issue, but just grasping at straws

dapper hound
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mine is listing correctely for consolle players, only pc is suffering the struggle

quartz pewter
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it seems alot of people are using old tools designed for ASE and/or getting info from AI generated websites.

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I saw an article yesterday that explained how to tame the giant turtle on the island in ASA...

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lmao

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yea, refactoring.

lavish stone
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More called breaking ^^

dapper hound
quartz pewter
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added hot peppers to the sauce is what they did

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its desolving the spaghetti

dapper hound
quartz pewter
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you know when they nerfed the Rhynio, the shorthand and longhand name of that creature was insta moderated off the discord completely right?

lavish stone
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probably they will, and they can read this, they just gotta fix this :)

quartz pewter
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They literally deleted every message instantly of anyone mentioning a creature in their own game...

lavish stone
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instead of them just fixing it .. and dont leave us behind, this wasnt needed :)

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or undo the updated they did that broke it

dapper hound
quartz pewter
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Nitrado pushed the red f u pay me button.

lavish stone
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that they never will

dapper hound
quartz pewter
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The problem they are trying to fix probably would not resonate well with the customer base.

lavish stone
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i know i would do too if this is nitrado only bs after all

quartz pewter
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Everyone has to remember that Wildcard owes Nitrado a couple million bucks or whatever.

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This game is at this point owned by Nitrado.

dapper hound
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started playing only because i can host my server.

lavish stone
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i know they do, but its not the players fault that they snailgames sold their soul to the devil :)

quartz pewter
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You could install it via SteamCMD, you just had to be completely logged into it. Anonymous wasnt allowed.

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and one per account.

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Nah, you can log into steamcmd on the command line.

hot wolf
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i was running 2 servers then, just ended the steam tasks after i started the servers

quartz pewter
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But I sure as hell am not putting my steam password in a script.

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No, your point was steam had to be open. The only thing you said that was accurate was one per account in all of your statements lol

hot wolf
dapper hound
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that's were they got my 40 buks and from other people of my clan

quartz pewter
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ERROR! Failed to install app '2430930' (No subscription) was a common error back then.

hot wolf
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the one per account thing did not work, i launched multiple servers just like now

quartz pewter
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Well yea im just talking about the EULA

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"Running the Application is only allowed with a Steam login that owns ARK Survival Ascended, with one Application instance allowed per login."

lavish stone
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thanks god that changed :)

quartz pewter
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Yes, The goalpost is moving I get it. Im simply saying that 90% of your initial statement was false after you specifically said your statement still stand.

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Calling someone out is not starting an argument. But ok. Next subject.

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@lunar cloud how much memory do you think is enough for my pod. Im thinking around 6gb, I havent dipped into the virtual memory yet. Im going to spin it up in its own staging cluster first in order to monitor stability before I put it in my CI/CD pipeline.

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I didnt realize proton ran it so much better I would have started with it in K8S to begin with.

lunar cloud
quartz pewter
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Ill just send it high, and bring it down as I monitor it lol

sweet bridge
#

guys does anyone know any good way to automate tasks on a nitrado rented server? like destroywilddinos, a proper restart with a save world command before, etc?

eternal crater
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Been slowly chipping away at launch options, removing mods, to no avail yet. Might try a few more but not much left. ArkAscendedServer.exe TheIsland_WP -NoBattlEye -EnableIdlePlayerKick -servergamelog -servergamelogincludetribelogs -ServerRCONOutputTribeLogs -nitradotest2 -ServerPlatform=ALL -AutoDestroyStructures -WinLiveMaxPlayers=60

quartz pewter
#

@eternal crater I would try to launch a fresh instance outside of the one with your config and see if it shows up.

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Chipping away is soo much more work than adding back slowly in my mind. lol

lunar cloud
sweet bridge
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ALL other server providers usually have these tools available.... ofc we had to stick to nitrado, the worse of them all

quartz pewter
#

@sweet bridge without Nitrado offering you some kind of cron or scheduling ability, you will have to run something 24/7 on your own

sweet bridge
quartz pewter
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You can rent a linode server for something like 5 bucks a month and run a script on that. But thats a little overkill for a cron job.

sweet bridge
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my thoughts exacty hehe

quartz pewter
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Nitrado is pretty bad.

sweet bridge
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I do run a discord bot. Guess... I might try that there. Not my area of expertise but probably doable

sweet bridge
quartz pewter
#

All the words that accurately tell how bad are moderated here. 😂

rich cloak
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After a couple hours of ASA Server testing this morning, maybe a couple dozen server restarts, I am finding that including a QueryPort in either the start command or the ini, hinders a server appearing in the browser list. And as has been stated, QueryPort is no longer used for ASA, so..... Remove it if you are using it in your ASA setup, and test your luck!

quartz pewter
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@rich cloak MVP

sweet bridge
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@rich cloak thks

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anyone here using Hetzner for hosting?

rich cloak
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I need to use the "Ark.UseServerList 0" one time on a client after the query is removed, after that, each time I restart the game client, the server will show up after using a filter string, in my case, just 3 letters

quartz pewter
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You are correct. QueryPort does not show up in any of my configs

dapper hound
rich cloak
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remove QueryPort in any/all locations for ASA

quartz pewter
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Ill lobby Wildcard to add it to the official documentation that doesnt exist. Shouldnt take long.

rich cloak
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QueryPort is specific to the STEAM Server browser infrastructure

quartz pewter
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Im telling you, there might be all kinds of landmines in everyones config because of old/wrong instructions.

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Best to have the server generate the config and go from there. When your playing with things that a company refuses to document, gotta move slow. Or steal the PDF from Nitrado.

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If you just run the exe and tell it nothing, it should use all default values. Me personally what I did was run the non-dedicated server from the client, and copied the ini files for game.ini and gameusersettings.ini directly to the server and set them read only.

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Each setting I changed, I ducked under my desk and waited for the explosion. If that didnt happen I knew I was good.

rich cloak
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I find it very annoying that ArkAscendedServer exe dumps all of the UI settings in to the GUS

quartz pewter
torn void
quartz pewter
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Thats why I set them to read only. The server also writes to that config whenever it pleases. deletes lines for fun and sometimes just clears it out completely.

rich cloak
lunar cloud
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interesting, i just checked my process and ran socket stat in linux and can confirm QueryPort is not even listening, so sounds like the PID does not use it

quartz pewter
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This is an option to start the Unreal Engine Editor (i.e.: the Ark DevKit) as a dedicated server using the uncooked assets. There is no use for the command on either the client or server.

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thats for -server DONT USE THAT

rich cloak
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that is why I replied "Review"

quartz pewter
#

This is why we cant have nice things

torn void
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well from my testing on my server been running since asa launch it works fine but yea test yourself make sure its a fresh wipe it wont generate the client config files and settings

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also replicates in the devkit for mod development

quartz pewter
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Thats a UE4 and UE5 flag not an Ark flag specifically.

rich cloak
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I will test later today, I have to focus on some other stuff right now

quartz pewter
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@torn void if something goes wrong, check there first. Tomorrow they could throw a flag that nukes the server like they did with the query port with the last update lol

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I just delete the client stuff and read only the file. But whatever works.

torn void
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i tried launching my server with a bat file with no query or listen port it does not fix the issue from listing the server from the browser

dapper hound
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i am rebooting rn to see if grabby finally found the fix

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litterally doig WC job in their place

lunar cloud
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Ran the following and even with QueryPort set, its not used , only my serverport and RCON port are listening

root@arkmanager-0:/ark# ss -tupln
Netid   State          Recv-Q    Send-Q   Local Address:Port
udp     UNCONN         0         0        0.0.0.0:30778
tcp     LISTEN         0         16       0.0.0.0:27020
rich cloak
quartz pewter
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@torn void that weird, mine has launched and shown up in the list since launch.

dapper hound
rich cloak
quartz pewter
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It doesnt need to be active for it to be doing bad bad things internally. Have you played with UE yet? Its a blast lol

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Its like node-red, on crack and in 3D

rich cloak
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My server also shows up in my Favorite list now

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but also still need the filter

quartz pewter
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What i noticed if you put something in the INI and have a typo, the server silents takes a crap on itself.

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I have seen it literally delete that whole line if it didnt like it.

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god knows whats going on under the hood.

rich cloak
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Please keep in mind! what I brought to the table this morning, is NOT A FIX! just a road to follow!

dapper hound
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just tried to reboot, any of you guys sees me? [EU-ITA]Paciottiland-PvP-x4H/x2XP/x7T/x10B/NoWipe

quartz pewter
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The process I think it takes is as follows. LAUNCH > read command flags and options > parse INI > overwrite INI from flags > Write ini out again.

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type, overwrite internal parsing of ini is what I meant

rich cloak
quartz pewter
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@dapper hound nothing yet, but it sometimes takes a while.

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I think they have moved to querying in batches to be honest.

rich cloak
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after a Ark.UseServerList 0 it showed up

dapper hound
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dunno what to try, my patience is reaching a limit. i will just wait

dapper hound
quartz pewter
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might be the slashes messing it up too, who knows what kind of sanitization they run in the background on names

hot wolf
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pretty sure queryport did nothing to change anything. same with the ?listen arg

quartz pewter
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like juset Paciottiland or something

eternal crater
rich cloak
dapper hound
dapper hound
hot wolf
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must be a client issue, all we can do is wait for a patch and hope they fix it

quartz pewter
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Did anyone try to fire up a blank server with nothing changed at all and see if it shows up in the list?

hot wolf
quartz pewter
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Lemme see what I can do

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I do have one question I just thought of tho

wanton hinge
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Perhaps server list is cached for pc? I notice a server I've had down for 6 hours is being listed with Ark.UserServerList set to 1. Then newer server isn't appearing at all.

quartz pewter
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Is anyones ISP NATing their connection?

torn void
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no

hot wolf
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nope

rich cloak
hot wolf
wanton hinge
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With the ServerList off it updates in real time, with it enabled it seems to show previous servers I had up before.

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This is all assumptions though, probably not the case.

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Now my server that hasn't shown up without the command is all of a sudden working again. lol

hot wolf
rich cloak
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I feel like WC does not have a conclusive answer to the problem, yet.

dapper hound
dapper hound
rich cloak
wanton hinge
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Oh query port

eternal crater
rich cloak
wanton hinge
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I don't think I ever had that in my startup lol

rich cloak
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⬜ Whiteout

wanton hinge
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Maybe Grabby is onto something

wanton hinge
livid pivot
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Anyone know of a way to disable the thing causing "world barrier destroyed" for players? It's honestly very frustrating

rich cloak
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Never heard of it

livid pivot
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It destroys a character and dino,with no chance of getting items back

It's happened to 3 different players in my server

vagrant ledge
lyric python
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Does any1 else occasionally get BSOD's while hosting/playing on their server?

quartz pewter
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@lyric python no, that usually means you have bad memory.

vagrant ledge
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Had it happen to me when a tuso grabbed me and moved me outside the world barrier

rich cloak
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ya sounds like a meshing issue

lyric python
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Fantastic, just recently upgraded to 2x48GB 6400mhz DDR5 and it's faulty then 😑😑😑

quartz pewter
rich cloak
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start by re-seating them

quartz pewter
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@lyric python do you have an XMP profile set?

lyric python
quartz pewter
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in the BIOS is what im talking about

lyric python
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Yep!

quartz pewter
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Turn that off and see if it happens again.

rich cloak
lyric python
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Wouldn't that make them run at the lowest possible speed though? 🤔

quartz pewter
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yes

vagrant ledge
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Or set them to 6000

lyric python
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Hmm understood! Thanks guys. I appreciate your time! Would I need to mess with anything else like voltage or any other stuff?

vagrant ledge
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Trial and error, find the one that works for you

quartz pewter
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XMP is more of memory overclocking than using the memory the way it was made. If that makes any sense.

vagrant ledge
rich cloak
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extreme memory profiles, AKA pushing past the limits

quartz pewter
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Ok there is something something very wrong going on with this whole server situation.

lyric python
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Thanks a ton guys. I'll try that out and see what happens. Hopefully it'll stop the BSODs!

rich cloak
solid stump
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anyone know an fix for mods that are invalid i have tried uninstalling and installing it again but it does not work

quartz pewter
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I just freshly installed a new dedicated server, same machine and fired it up bone stock with nothing changed. It launched, and sat there ready to go. But wouldnt show up in the list lol.

vagrant ledge
quartz pewter
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So I messed with things, nothing worked.

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Gave up and launched my normal world. Shows up instantly and works as normal.

vagrant ledge
rich cloak
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#BLAMEJEREMY

solid stump
quartz pewter
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So, I really dont know what to say.

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How does two identical copies of the same software, on the same computer, with all the same information and ports and such, not work on one world, but work on another.

vagrant ledge
# solid stump ah okey thanks!

There was alot of invalid mods when they pushed out crossplay, curse forge has to manually validate mods for either cross play or updates in general

quartz pewter
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So it appears that its not a client issue, not a setting issue, but a world issue. I didnt even think that was possible.

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I have ruled out launch flags and settings.

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I even used my everything except I had it generate a new world, and it still didnt show up.

solid stump
sinful trout
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Is there an Xbox server add channel?

eternal crater
rich cloak
eternal crater
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Alright I'm gonna put listen back in /s

quartz pewter
vagrant ledge
quartz pewter
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I didnt uninstall anything.

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I launched a completely new dedicated server

solid stump
quartz pewter
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I even copied the the executables over.

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I just deleted all the rest of it, so it would regen all the things it needed.

eternal crater
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In this scenario the most puzzling part is why your existing server actually works. There's no setting or anything that you can think of that would enable it to work compared to a fresh new server?

vagrant ledge
eternal crater
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The thing that leads me to believe it isn't solvable on our end is that multiple people have said that their server shows up on the list and then disappears

quartz pewter
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I think this problem may be a little larger than a "refactoring" issue

vagrant ledge
solid stump
dapper hound
quartz pewter
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A completely working setup, stopped working with a new world. The mind boggles

dapper hound
quartz pewter
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It would be interesting to get the MD5 of one of the nitrado executables...

eternal crater
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Agree

quartz pewter
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Or even one of the actual executables itself.

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Something fishy is going on.

dapper hound
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i think i'm gonna take a break from it, i don't think it's right we do WC job.

quartz pewter
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its worth noting that on the official community wiki it states Allows the server to accept specified platforms. Options are PC for Steam, PS5 for PlayStation 5, XSX for XBOX, WINGDK for Microsoft Store, ALL for crossplay between PC and all consoles. Note: Steam dedicated server supports only PC and ALL options.

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thats the description for -ServerPlatform

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Which suggests there is a non steam dedicated server...

quartz pewter
eternal crater
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They ought to just hire that one guy already who hacked the official list 😉

quartz pewter
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Does anyone in here have Nitrado that would be willing to MD5 their ArkAscendedServer.exe?

vagrant ledge
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This problem started with patch 32.21?

quartz pewter
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The steam version of the file has an SHA256 of C11A2A21C5DC4E1BC864A9B50F4E32CD69A30F95516563157F9E246664203210and an MD5 of 043A77D15F92034D3EAEF43E272E2ADC

native wave
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I doubt they would allow access through their interface to download the exe to be able to MD5 it.

quartz pewter
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@native wave yea most likely. or maybe they do I have no idea lol

native wave
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Hehe

quartz pewter
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They dont get cron, they only get access to the saved folder for the low low price of..... nope. That would be funny.

native wave
quartz pewter
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or mine for some reason.

vagrant ledge
quartz pewter
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Lets just say my entire folder is getting rcloned directly into cold storage right now in case anything happens.

native wave
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I'm on 32.21 on mine and have no issues seeing it or connecting. The one difference I had was the time I updated to it...it was a few hours after they deployed it to public.

quartz pewter
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does your md5 and sha256 match mine?

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@native wave if your on windows 11 to get the sha256 go into powershell in the folder of the exe and type Get-FileHash .\ArkAscendedServer.exe and for md5 type Get-FileHash .\ArkAscendedServer.exe -Algorithm MD5

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I know, the redundancy department called.

native wave
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was already on my way to do that

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SHA256 C11A2A21C5DC4E1BC864A9B50F4E32CD69A30F95516563157F9E246664203210
MD5 043A77D15F92034D3EAEF43E272E2ADC

quartz pewter
#

same

native wave
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yup

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was still worth a try

quartz pewter
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Well we both dont have an issue with listing or connection.

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Someone having the problem would have to get the SHA256 to rule that out.

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And Nitrado im just curious, I guarantee they have special sauce.

native wave
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how long from it going public did you update your server?

fading timber
#

seems theyre intentionally hiding non nitrado servers in an effort to boost those while alos putting the game on sale at the same time lol

hot wolf
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SHA256 C11A2A21C5DC4E1BC864A9B50F4E32CD69A30F95516563157F9E246664203210
MD5 043A77D15F92034D3EAEF43E272E2ADC

quartz pewter
#

same

fading timber
#

theyve been way too silent about this refusing to address anything when their patch literally broke the game for alot of us and costing us player base because our server is not visible and not every player always joins discords for updates

quartz pewter
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We probably all have the same version, steam does a good job of that most of the time itself.

rich cloak
fading timber
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i had a ton of german players on mine who have vanished since these issues and the server cant be seen because i cant tell them how to join with console

quartz pewter
native wave
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@quartz pewter do you password protect your server?

quartz pewter
fading timber
native wave
#

same

quartz pewter
native wave
#

yup yup

quartz pewter
#

exclusive join is so nice, it was terrible when something happened to it.

fading timber
#

i have a hard time seeing m own server on my local network i have to join in console with OPEN IP:PORT

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it rarely ever shows in my favorites now also

quartz pewter
fading timber
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had zero issues prior to patch other day with visiblity

hot wolf
#

i have to type full server name in favorites for it show

fading timber
#

we wouldnt have to speculate or being inspector gadgets if they had proper means of communiciation and didnt just ignore most things

quartz pewter
#

I yearn for a launch flag that sends me directly into my server without entering a password.

quartz pewter
fading timber
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i find it entirely improbably they werent immediately aware based on players on here and it's equally as telling theyve said nothing

fading timber
quartz pewter
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oh wait.

fading timber
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idk why i ever thought theyd do better than before shame on me

quartz pewter
fading timber
#

it's not like a few ppls jobs there is literally to be the voice to the community or anythinig

olive sleet
fading timber
quartz pewter
fading timber
quartz pewter
#

Seems easier to just not break shit. But thats just me.

fading timber
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oh wait theyr eloaned out for millions my bad

quartz pewter
#

Failed electric car companies will do that to yah

fading timber
#

actual clown behavior

quartz pewter
#

google: "snail games failed car company"

fading timber
#

i just did cus i wasnt sure what you meant lol

olive sleet
#

If they made the perfect bug-free game people would still ping them to change minute things they personally didn't enjoy.
You are also conflating the "multi-million dollar company" with individual developers. I agree, the company can and should be better managed, I want ARK to be as good as possible, but you are ragging on individual devs with little/no control over a company who just want to feed their family.

quartz pewter
fading timber
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im ragging on their inability to be open and communicative all that other stuff is moot

quartz pewter
#

no one shoud demand change, demanding a working product is another story.

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These live update games with constant "balance" and updates is getting old.

fading timber
#

by no means do i mean allow private DMS but all issues should be immediately and publicaly be addressed, even just as a placebo effect, being completely absent is inexcusable

quartz pewter
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They literally auto moderated the word Rhynio from discord when people were pissed they got nerfed.

amber veldt
#

Anyone know of a cluster mod for Asa

fading timber
#

everyone who does have the listing issue right now is losing players and it's a detriment to our work and they just dont say anything

quartz pewter
#

You couldnt spell it right long, or shorthand.

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Link denied

amber veldt
#

Found one but doesn’t seem too great

eternal crater
#

Just checked with my guy running two servers with my server manager program, he hasn't had any issues even with the new patch. 😆

amber veldt
#

Mod tempocluster

quartz pewter
#

a new test server that is.

olive sleet
#

I have been in this server for a long time and spend most of my time in ARK with it on my other monitor and I never saw instances of Rhynio being censored.
I agree that I want PvE and PvP to be balanced separately, but I agree with the devs that the Rhynio was and still is busted af.

rich cloak
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NERF the Big Bug!

quartz pewter
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This was right after the nerf.

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It would just auto delete the message that contained the word, no warning or explanation.

rich cloak
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"The BUG" was obscenley OP, the Nerf was needed

native wave
#

exactly why everyone wanted one

quartz pewter
eternal crater
#

Just that wish they would have made it an in I setting for PVE players

rich cloak
quartz pewter
#

mine either, but I get their pain.

native wave
#

more options is always the best option, but they don't think about that until much later

quartz pewter
#

I just dont think I should suffer because of their pain lol

copper gale
#

could someone tell me where to find an explanation or explain to me why this is needed?

rich cloak
#

what is "This"

quartz pewter
#

Well this is needed because without this there would be nothing to pair with that

copper gale
#

The whole Rhynio nerf stuff

quartz pewter
#

PVP balance.

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you know, that thing that kills every game?

rich cloak
quartz pewter
#

I think we need to rebalance chess, its clearly not working out the queen is too powerful. said no one ever.

rich cloak
#

Pvp = Conflict for the sake of Conflict for the sake of an Adrenal Rush, that is all it is

olive sleet
#

You do not slot-cap an anky with metal and fly it back to base faster than a Ptera in Chess