pvp-discussion

[keen hare]

Yeah my main goal for wipe is getting all bosses done within 24 hour's after launch

[jovial burrow]

Honestly if you do that I will be impressed 😂

[gilded harbor]

Same I’m debating if thts possible even with a mega, maybe day 2

[keen hare]

Brood will be hardest imo without cheesing

[jovial burrow]

Ya and dragon

I think our group we are planning on getting it done by day 7!

[gilded harbor]

Hell even getting all the artifacts might be tough starting out

[keen hare]

Dragon will be ok just need flak and pump bp pretty easy to get on island tbh

[proper cliff]

well from a smalls perspective its kinda hard to get any bosses done, cuz most if not all caves will be build

[gilded harbor]

Well for smaller tribes

[keen hare]

Yeah ice cave need like 10k arb to clear all spawns with heavies f doing it on foot

[jovial burrow]

I can’t wait guys seriously

It’s going to be so much fun!

[keen hare]

You ain't getting bosses on smalls unless allied

[gilded harbor]

Same, meatruns gonna be crazy

[jovial burrow]

Ya dude!

[proper cliff]

true

[gilded harbor]

Especially when the scorch land bases are back

[jovial burrow]

Can’t wait for SE one of my favorite maps

[keen hare]

Both maps are terrible for black pearls

[jovial burrow]

Ya

[gilded harbor]

Abb is gonna be sick

[jovial burrow]

I believe hard UW is the best spawn on island

[jovial burrow]

Bro can’t wait! Everything before extiction

Ya

😂

[keen hare]

Can't build hard uw you'll end up cutting off your main black pearl farm

[gilded harbor]

Y’all see the unity website

It’s sick

[jovial burrow]

No is actually

[gilded harbor]

Ye check it out shows everything

[harsh creek]

is there a way to gets whips on island or is pt pvp going to be aids

in asa

[meager quest]

Use grapple hooks

[jovial burrow]

Okay

[harsh creek]

mmm true

[jovial burrow]

I’m actually very excited for the PVP the skillful PVP will be back in the game

[meager quest]

Yessir

[gilded harbor]

F

[keen hare]

If on single player you have to chage settings

I done 9 megatherium 15k hp 400 melee and they only done 20% hp off the boss but with them being ridden can easily get it done

[keen hare]

Everyone will use weight as a counter if not microraptor

[meager quest]

The long, drawn out, strategic wars were the best moments in pvp before extinction

[jovial burrow]

Yes, honestly cryos made people scared. Tribe up and that was how megas were formed.

[keen hare]

Yeah 19 will take to long to get day 1

[jovial burrow]

Before it was really just alpha tribes

[meager quest]

Fr. And titans only added to pushing people into caves

[jovial burrow]

Yes

[keen hare]

Good luck finding 19 high level in one day on island lol

[meager quest]

If they wanna add cryos back they gotta balance them

[jovial burrow]

Everything on island lvl 5

[meager quest]

Make cryos a one time use

[jovial burrow]

I think the only way to balance them is make it to where if you throw a tame out of pod it can’t be transferred for 24. How like downloading tames work. Might be a hot take

😂

[fickle fog]

Grab your pitchforks

[gilded harbor]

I wouldn’t mind this

[meager quest]

I do understand cryos for raising though. Raising in og ark is aids

[gilded harbor]

For now atleast

[jovial burrow]

Yes

[fickle fog]

I think the cooldown balances them pretty well. Why do you think they're too op?

[meager quest]

What if cryos were only used for baby-adolescents?

[jovial burrow]

I do not think they’re OP, I just think the ability to spam dinos is kind of what ruins arc in the endgame for PVP

[proper cliff]

i hate wyverns, cant wait for abb, spend like 2k hours just there man. best map ever

[jovial burrow]

I think that cool down when you upload and download a Dino, Really helps to balance the flow of PVP

I with pods being able to just throw them at Will just makes it to where mega tribes really dominate

I think if they made it to where once you download a cryo or transferred to a server with a tame it has a 24 hour cool down.

[proper cliff]

makes counterfobbing kinda impossible tho

[gilded harbor]

I hope duping ain’t a thing for a while so people actually care and think instead of jus rush with the giga then throw another

[jovial burrow]

True but I think if they ever did this or gave it a try, I think it would make people just plan more instead of just throw dinosaurs everywhere#

And I think this mechanic would help smaller tribes

[proper cliff]

hopefully. cheaters killed the game man. i still get flashbacks from those guys that had 5 cryofridges rdy just to mekrush ur ass with duped ass meks

[jovial burrow]

Because bigger tribes with a lot of numbers can’t just at will throw 600 tames at you

[proper cliff]

true

[jovial burrow]

I honestly hate the Megat tribe ideology

[gilded harbor]

It’s fun but I also see the other side

Like recording it is so dope

But being the other guy not so much

[jovial burrow]

And also if you downloaded your pods to a server and you couldn’t upload them for 24 hours. I think that would help with the annoying trolls too.

I remember playing smalls, and every day people would just come the same group over and over again because they can😂

[proper cliff]

yeah idk. mybe make it something between 6-18h imo instead. so theres actually some use

[jovial burrow]

True

[lost garnet]

U understand tht just makes caves broken

[gilded harbor]

Imagine they went back to the old 30 min transfer timer

[jovial burrow]

Oh better idea if you throw the team out of the pod, then it gets a timer

But if you download a team and it never gets thrown out, it’s good

[lost garnet]

Right cryos balanced the caves

[jovial burrow]

Yes

[lost garnet]

Besides wildcard alr have wasted so much time

[proper cliff]

anyways guys, im headin to bed, was a nice chat, see ya around, tmr new vid mr chad? 😄

[lost garnet]

In remaking the game they not going to change something as simple as cryos

[jovial burrow]

Don’t worry, I’m pro cryos lol I just think when it comes later down the line there needs to be some type of balance because you avoid the whole upload timer for bringing a tame onto server and I think that’s what makes cry pods broken

[jovial burrow]

Yes 😂

[lost garnet]

Cryos also help prevent lag not really cryo timers there for a rzn

[gilded harbor]

I’m predicting trailer Monday

[lost garnet]

And it won't matter when lines get capped u 1 tapped either way

[proper cliff]

aight bro, ima watch it

[gilded harbor]

Or maybe pics knowing wildcard

[proper cliff]

gn8 boys

[lost garnet]

Ppl will have 350s on carach and giga by the time transfers open

[jovial burrow]

Thanks man, still thinking of a topic either top five base locations or my top dinos that I want to see get a TLC 😂

[lost garnet]

Which will 1 tap the shit flak

Tht everyone will have

[jovial burrow]

My biggest prayer is I really hope wildcard takes the game seriously this time around

For PVP mainly

[lost garnet]

Well it's going to be there main source of Income

Till ark 2 which will probably fail

[floral osprey]

Khalid don’t shove a dodo up your ass 😂

[jovial burrow]

😂😂😂😂

I might

[floral osprey]

your intros be killing me

[jovial burrow]

Thanks bro

I’m still thinking of a topic for tomorrow either top five base locations or what dinos I want to see get a tlc or a melee build for lvl 105 that includes swamp ass

People seem to really like the 105 build I made for a basic PVP set up, but I want to make a melee

Okay good ones, you what. Because you responded, my video tomorrow will be what creatures need a tlc for PvP

Pt will definitely be in my listv

[edgy bridge]

looking for EU players for official ASA, pm me if you are interested

[jovial burrow]

Can a tuso grab water tames

Like basilo and megladon

[meager quest]

It can grab mego. I dont think it can grab basi

[wheat coral]

unlikely, 400 eggs a week is about 1 mutation, and I believe transfers are suppose to open with SE in December. This is without cryos, and without alliance being able to share mutations until transfers open.

[steady whale]

basi is immune to being grabbed, but a tuso can grab other things like mosa and plesi

[rocky trail]

Honestly, pillar/foundation/gate spamming need to be a thing of the past.

Crucify me, but it is the truth. This was definitely not intended pvp design and it's disgusting. It's also horrible to look at and lags out the server

[lost garnet]

@wheat coral so u clearly cnt breed because if u have over 220 of any tame it is basically a mut

Because in 1 week u shouldn't have only 400 eggs

[steady whale]

in pvp you can just damage and destroy pillar/foundation spam i imagine

[lost garnet]

😂

[rocky trail]

Sure, yeah i wanna destroy 500 pillar/foundations just to have them put right back up lol

[wheat coral]

console bob, telling me I can't breed. Its the island on official, with no cryos and one month until transfers open up. You will not have 219 cloned level 1 0/0 female gigas. You will not have raised 219 nor tamed 219 0/0 females.

[lost garnet]

Buddy

U can farm brood in like 25

Minutes on isl if u have more than 5ppl doing it and other bosses u won't need it secondly u can always tp a giga into a cave like easy and clone them their I am sorry tht ur 1x brain cnt comprehend basic thing and u dnt need lvl 1s u can use lvl 5s at the start

But u pc players are still using ceiling l8ngs

Fortnights

[wheat coral]

lol bruh, console bob thinks he actually knows the game.

[lost garnet]

Buddy u just said it take 400 eggs for 1 mut

[lone moon]

There's no cloner on island. Thats a different maps engram so I doubt it will release day 1

[umbral gorge]

pvps gonna be so ass without cryopods

[umbral gorge]

ye its so dumb they should atleast make cryopods available for only pvp

like wtf am i gonna walk a carcha or a soaker to a base

nah they prob nerfing that shit tbh

tbh i rather play unofficial with mods

if theres no cryos

[wheat coral]

you really have zero clue what you are talking about and how mutations are pushed on Official.

[umbral gorge]

and how tf are you gonna breed in a cave do you have to take stuff outside like carchas or gigas

[wheat coral]

no upload / download until transfers are enabled.

[meager quest]

Build outside like the game was before extinction

[umbral gorge]

ion get how they remove cryos but leave in all the weird tek stuff

[meager quest]

The best times

[meager quest]

Tek was in the game before cryos

Lmao. Carchars are gonna be crazy in those types of raids/battles

[mild crystal]

who wants to play some ark. i want a fresh and new experience coming back

[keen hare]

Once you hit 20/20 on parents i believe 400 eggs gives you a 90% success rate at getting a new mut 400 is commonly known number

[keen hare]

Cloner is alpha dragon engram

Also getting 36+ points on giga or carcha on island could take a month it's luck asf

[lone moon]

Yea it unlocks from the dragon but it didn't release with the island. You can get cryopods without any boss fights but they aren't enabling those since island didnt release with it initially. So its fair to assume the other tek it didn't have originally wont be included

[hybrid oracle]

You get them way faster then that.

[keen hare]

Once you hot 20/20 until you get negative mutations this is the commonly known fact Playstation had dead lines or took way longer then other platforms to cap lines so please dont @ me

[tacit trench]

Hey, is cave building going to still be allowed on ASA

I had a friend till me it wasn't and I just wanted to confirm.

[keen hare]

Yes caves will be a thing will minor changes to choke points

[meager quest]

I wish they would give us details on what they changed

[steady whale]

unfortunately snail games doesn't typically care about the wildcard playerbase

[crystal junco]

Caves will be nerfed to the ground

[meager quest]

Lets hope

[warm sigil]

How will crossplay work? PS and Xbox servers. Then PC/PS/Xbox servers?

So no PC only server?

[meager quest]

Dont think so

[warm sigil]

Any console players going to a crossplay server? I’m worried for my tribe mates lmao

[meager quest]

Wym

[warm sigil]

You know anyone who gonna play console on crossplay servers?

[meager quest]

Me lol. I got a tribe ready n everything

[warm sigil]

Cause my friends mechanics are top tier but aiming on controller is scuffed compared to mnk lol

[warm sigil]

Praise the lord

[keen hare]

So:

Crossplay A - Xbox, PlayStation, Windows.
Non-PC Crossplay - Xbox, Playstation
Crossplay B - Steam

and then once we're on fast-cert

Crossplay A and B will get merged

So we'll have

Crossplay AB - Xbox, PlayStation, Windows, Steam
Non-PC Crossplay - Xbox, PlayStation

[meager quest]

Tbh its not gonna matter that much. Movement speed is being nerfed so you're most likely wont do alot of ground pvp

[warm sigil]

True that’s good, glad they did that

[warm sigil]

Thanks ma drilla 👌🏼👌🏼

[meager quest]

Pc will still have a bit of an upper hand but it shouldn't be an issue

[warm sigil]

I’m not dogging controller aim I used to play on console just long range is different

[low iris]

Where are people thinking of building? I've heard many mixed opinions on places I like

[warm sigil]

Good roller players can aim

[keen hare]

On x1 building every cave besides hard uw

[warm sigil]

Were building top of east metal mountain

[warm sigil]

True 95% of the game is knowing what to do

Even more then that

If tribe was bigger I’d build cave and breed out front but contest probs gonna be crazy day 1

[meager quest]

The caves might be super nerfed

[low iris]

Playing smalls I just haven't really started on the island

[warm sigil]

Oh yeah

[meager quest]

Best of luck to you on smalls

[keen hare]

They said minor changes to some choke points and if the meta is to strong and caves are too weak they will buff them again

[warm sigil]

Hope the squads stacked

[low iris]

You saying that makes me feel like it's a bad idea lmao

[warm sigil]

Yeah they’ll probably open them up but there’s a chance they might 10x it or something else

[meager quest]

Wym lol

[low iris]

Saying best of luck makes me feel like ima have a super hard time, idk

[warm sigil]

If you have a good team you’ll be okay but small tribes is usually a dictatorship of allied tribes

[meager quest]

Facts

[low iris]

Sadly we only have 4/6, not bad players though so hopefully we won't be wiped a lot

[warm sigil]

Try not to be toxic in global chat 😆

Make frens

But not too friendly

[low iris]

Yeah we've already all agreed on that, not tryna be enemy #1

[warm sigil]

Politics n such

You don’t wanna side with the wrong side lol

[low iris]

I'm having a hard time deciding a good base location, I thought herb island but I've heard so many bad things on it

[warm sigil]

Getting metal would be a nightmare imo

But it would be good if you pull it off

[low iris]

Alr ty

[warm sigil]

Wait for patch notes, maybe try get a cave

There’s a lot

[low iris]

Yeah 2 of us lived in pack with a 6 or 7 man on official

[candid garden]

not really, herbi island has a metal spawn on it, and you can get an anky there also, and once you get an argy other metal spots arent too far

[keen hare]

Like 6 nodes on herby lol

[lament owl]

lol

Carno on top fr fr

[crimson walrus]

anyone knows any info on how many pvp servers we getting on steam?

[keen hare]

No just that player limit will be 70 still

[rocky trail]

They’ve already said they’ve made small changes so they won’t be super nerfed unfortunately

[rocky trail]

Herb is terrible don’t fall into the trap, Carno if you’ve got a big enough tribe

[proper cliff]

actually like 14

[keen hare]

Be alpha in no time then

[neon cave]

Especially early on when everything has such little health & with no movement speed buffs rafts will just shag u

[rocky trail]

No tame storage as rafts can drive right up the ass of the island and fuck your tames up I don’t know why you see these videos ranking it like top 2 it’s shite.

[neon cave]

Herb should never make any pvp base spot list

[delicate swift]

yall think theyre gonna keep the speed boost from swamp sickness or nah?

[neon cave]

Probably

Might actually make it useful

Was the speed nerfs for tames aswell or just players?

[delicate swift]

hope it does, will make note runs ALOT harder without movement speed

both as far as im aware

[neon cave]

Thought so

Also

[keen hare]

Two possibilities with note changes if they do decide to change it

Move the locations

Make it so you cant stack more then 1 2x and 1 4x at the same time

[neon cave]

How are engrams gonna work? Like can we craft stuff like nets when game release or do we have to wait for more maps to come out

[delicate swift]

odds are itll be bog standard vanilla until the rest of the maps roll out

since we aint even getting cryopods

[neon cave]

Wonder if turret limit will stay the same

[delicate swift]

and i can see them removing some of the extinction notes that can put you at max instantly but the island notes never seemed all that broken to me

[neon cave]

Could get from 1-70 in like 15 20 mins on island

Obviously with speed though

[delicate swift]

eh but 70 isnt all that much compared to how much longer it takes to get to max from there imo

i just know its gonna be wild on launch day with everyone bumrushing notes and the caves

[meager quest]

Get a times 4 note tame a thyla kill a titan an youre basically maxed out

[neon cave]

U can deffo get higher but id get lost at around that point

[neon cave]

Yh thats usually the move after ive done a 15 min note run

[meager quest]

Note runs are op imo. They should tone it down a small bit

[keen hare]

Cloning chamber tek turrets and island ascension all released on the island with v257 update like 6 year's idk where you think cloning chambers came from

[neon cave]

Going back to og metal runs will be rough

[keen hare]

Being able to instantly craft c4 and turrets etc etc is pretty busted most bobs will struggle to get level 50 without notes lol

[neon cave]

If u struggle to get to 50 lets be real u wont last more then a few days anyway

[keen hare]

How would you get 50 without notes in say an hour

[neon cave]

Fair

Unless ur killing alphas on a raft which is just too much effort to consider😂

[keen hare]

Argy saddle is level 62 that's crazy to think if you cant do a noterun lol

[timber ermine]

hani lan nerde oyun

[balmy field]

You can craft like 30 rafts and be lvl 50

[hearty imp]

Cafting rafts pots... etc.

[keen hare]

With no notes on x1 it's 106 rafts lol

[balmy field]

Oof I was talking smalls lmao

1x is going to be bob wars for first few days😂

[keen hare]

Still about 45

Nah not when you get 50+ people on server will be chilling

[balmy field]

True

I’m planning on doing Thyla titan for XP

[keen hare]

Yeah so many factors no 4x i think would be 3 titans on smalls

With just a 2x

[balmy siren]

Yo I cant mount my desert titan anyone know what to do?

[keen hare]

Where are you with it

[balmy siren]

Center

I just dropped a tower with it then I relogged cause of desync and now it just tells me access inventory

[keen hare]

Are you in a no fly zone

[balmy siren]

No

I cant mount my forest titan either

[storm totem]

The game hasn't released yest, but let me welcome you all to the pvp world

You beach bobs yall noobs

[candid garden]

how is herb terrible

[thin estuary]

lol

[neon cave]

How is it not

[thin estuary]

DONT BUILD ON HERB

[neon cave]

Its the worst base spot on the map

[thin estuary]

Just don’t brotha

[neon cave]

Literally anywhere else is better

[thin estuary]

Herb is used if you wanna build some dumb pve shit lol

[neon cave]

Agreed

[rocky trail]

You must be in the wrong channel, #pve-discussion there you go

[candid garden]

idk, last time i played on island we built up the herbi and its stood no problem

[thin estuary]

Definitely wasn’t official

[neon cave]

Was u playing single player?

[candid garden]

no it was offical

[ancient heron]

Only reason herb is horrible is because 60% of the island can be raft raided

[neon cave]

When was this 2016?

[ancient heron]

Can’t built a lot of towers

[thin estuary]

Yeah literally

[rocky trail]

And no tame space

Gotta remember no cryos

[neon cave]

Theres this and then other then this there is 0 benefit to the island

[ancient heron]

If herb didn’t have the water going inland it would be pretty good

[candid garden]

11 towers aound the island we had some 50 turrets each

heavies and tek

[thin estuary]

lol

[neon cave]

When that much of the island can be raft raided it defeats the point of having an island, at that point its just a shitty land base

[ancient heron]

Yeah herb is pretty hard to live on too it’s super far from like every resource

[thin estuary]

Cap

11 towers with 50 turrets each on herb ?

[neon cave]

Carno still better even if that were the case

[rocky trail]

So much cap lol

[thin estuary]

HOW 😂

[rocky trail]

Turret limit wouldn’t allow

[ancient heron]

Well yeah it’s bigger and has a cave on it, and it’s closer to farm spots

[rocky trail]

That’s 550 on just towers

[neon cave]

U could deffo fit that on the island

But its still a really shit idea

[rocky trail]

Nope not a chance

With a base

[neon cave]

Ud barely have a base in the middle

[thin estuary]

Not 11 turret towers with 50 per

[candid garden]

join a mega tribe and youll be suprised what is possible bruh

[sick cloud]

i wanna see ark Trailer

[neon cave]

But yh u could do it, just isnt a good idea

[thin estuary]

What are you protecting then atp

[rocky trail]

Gotta think that’s 11 towers they can’t be far away from each other Herby is small

[rocky trail]

Mega tribe on herb 😂 yeah next joke son

You ain’t got a clue

[ancient heron]

😂😂😂

[candid garden]

you even know the meaning?

[neon cave]

Yh but this idiot probably had em all the way out on those mini islands and shit

[candid garden]

yes

[rocky trail]

Bob 😂

[neon cave]

Who even says mega tribe anymore

[ancient heron]

Mega tribe in a pearl cave😂

[neon cave]

Its just tribes

[thin estuary]

Everybody still what are you talking about

[neon cave]

Mega tribes are standard now so no one says that

[sick cloud]

we say it on pc

[ancient heron]

There are still other tribes then mega tribes

The game is not majority mega tribe

[neon cave]

Maybe then i guess im wrong

[sick cloud]

its like that sense bigg of ark

[candid garden]

we had other maps pretty build alrwady, didnt have anything on island so decided to build a fob on the herbi lol, wasnt the best idea but who cares when you can shit out 1mil Arbs a day

[balmy field]

Default is mega

[ancient heron]

Mega tribes probably hold 10% of arks player base

[balmy field]

No lmao

[neon cave]

If u count dedis then maybe

[ancient heron]

Yup

[neon cave]

But xbox official was like 95% megas

[sick cloud]

10% of what

[balmy field]

Where is your source

[thin estuary]

BRUH WHAT LOL

Your logic is interesting lol

[balmy field]

I think he was on a fiber

[thin estuary]

Think about what you’re saying 😂

[ancient heron]

And official held like 25% of arks population for steam, jat the dev put these stats out a while back

[sick cloud]

i think you start play in the end of ark cuz even a tribe with 50 player's called there slef a mega

[thin estuary]

You guys built an 11 tower 50 turret each fob..on HERB

[neon cave]

When u consider pve and dedis and shit u might be right tbf

[sick cloud]

no one build tower on a fob

[candid garden]

idk, imo mega tribe isnt about how many players you have, more about how much your tribes dominates and controls servers

[balmy field]

There’s megas on pve too

[sick cloud]

i am too but i am talking at the end not on the known tribe

[candid garden]

it was litereally in the last month or 2 before the officals got shut down, so decided to just go for it

[neon cave]

So it didnt hold up then

Because u built it before server shutdown lmao

[balmy field]

Basically dev wiped

[neon cave]

There was nothing inside it so no one bothered

[candid garden]

fun part was having 1500% melee gigas roaming agressive lol

[thin estuary]

You’re argument before was saying that herb is good to build on lol

[candid garden]

they kept going in the water tho

[neon cave]

So basically that was all cap

[rocky trail]

Your argument was how is herb terrible tho, when you built it is irrelevant

It’s shit

[thin estuary]

He’s yapping fellas 😂

[candid garden]

oh sorry, well imo its alright early on as you do egt metal and shit there, but mid and late its yeah shit

[balmy field]

Everyone has too much time on their hands rn

[neon cave]

His defence for his argument was it held up pretty well, but then says it was a fob built before servers wiped

So it was an empty shell that lasted a month…

[rocky trail]

It’s shit early on 😂
You couldn’t be further away from key recourses

[thin estuary]

Lmk if you build on herb again @candid garden

[neon cave]

Who tf is farming metal on herb

[rocky trail]

This guy 😂

[candid garden]

in a month we might

[balmy field]

Chat is this real?

[ancient heron]

🤮

[thin estuary]

PLEASE LMK LOL

I’ll bring the boys over and we can give you an official base rating

[candid garden]

alright

add me on discord, you get the server number when the game drops

[thin estuary]

Giving peeps a reason to shit on console players even more 🥹

[neon cave]

Is this where they start fighting with spears and torches

[candid garden]

not a console player

[weary rose]

Yeah plz change to switch 😂

[candid garden]

pc

[rocky trail]

I guess that’s what they meant when they say ‘pc players on another level’

[lethal sable]

Rag highlands cave is my mega spot of choice, you can almost fit two gigas standing up. forget about herb

[rocky trail]

Looking for people to join my official tribe for ASA

[broken zephyr]

bro what mega has ever touched that spot also rag wont be out on release

[lethal sable]

sarcasm my man, sarcasm

No mega has touched herb island either lol

[dusty roost]

Wait no rag on release???

What maps will be on release then?

I know island and scorched but what else?

[broken zephyr]

the island

no scorched

it will be one unified hell hole

like ark was intended to be

[dusty roost]

Oh ok nvm u dont know what you are talking about

[broken zephyr]

wym

its literally just gonna be the island

[cold dock]

I think he meant "I"

[broken zephyr]

We’ve also decided to separate the release date of The Island and Scorched Earth. With what we’ve learned about remastering The Island from the ground-up, it wouldn’t be feasible to complete Scorched Earth to a standard we’re happy with. So for now, we’re going to plan that Scorched Earth will be coming to ASA in December this year, Ragnarok and Aberration will follow in Q1 2024, and the rest of the maps beyond then.
-july 1st

[balmy field]

Who’s gonna tell him?😂

[lone moon]

Servers 1-7 seem accounted for. So don't join those unless you're with the mega/alliance involved

[rocky trail]

You ain’t the brightest, are ya?

[young cave]

Guys, damage reduction wise, does the armor type (hide, chitin, flak, riot) makes any difference or simply higher armor / durability stat is better? So for example a 150 armor chitin helmet is better than a 100 armor flak?

[lone moon]

Point is it didn't release day 1 with the island, and their were other maps out when that patch hit. So I don't see them adding it since they said they are going back to day 1

No cryos with cloners going all over map sounds like lag hell too

[indigo gust]

You get hit - armor reduces that damage, but also if you get hit then the durability will go down until it breaks.

[broken zephyr]

No it dosent.

[lethal sable]

it will be island only on release my man

[lethal sable]

dura is everything for armor, pretty much nothing else matters

[keen hare]

Generally, we intend to release content based on the map it launched with. It doesn’t matter WHEN it launched; for example, the Rafts will be available on Day One and the Rhyniognatha on The Island; however, TEK creature variants and Cryopods will not be available

So that's not how its working sorry to say cloners came with the island so they will be on the island

[indigo gust]

People worried about cloners and teleporters. I'm more worried about pvp'ing without a whip 🤣

[wraith lark]

I can’t wait to see the cave changes, I wonder how much they’ve messed with, and if a land base will become an alternative to the meta

[indigo gust]

You will see much more land bases

They said they made little changes to caves but nothing too drastic.

Big boxes with tames inside.

And behe gates everywhere

[rocky trail]

No flamethrowers though

I'm most worried about no nets

You cant outrun the dinos anymore either

[indigo gust]

I was fine long before nets. But not being able to whip out of tames picking me, means I'll have to carry alot more grapples

[rocky trail]

Thats because you could outrun the dinos though

[indigo gust]

You don't know that. Might have increased base movement speed instead of being able to level it

Like 140 is base now but you can't add.

[rocky trail]

It will probably only be to +125%

Actually you're right

[indigo gust]

Yea 125 won't be enough 🤣

[rocky trail]

It will probably be more or everyone will rage and quit

and WC know that

[indigo gust]

They must see the issue in spawning and not being able to run away from a carbo

So fingers crossed. I'm ok with it being less, but we need a little bit of movement

Or maybe they will just raise movement speed more with focal chili or something else.

[rocky trail]

I feel like no MS was a streamer/YouTuber suggestion who barely plays the game but idn lol going be interesting to say the least

[indigo gust]

H.O.D suggested it too and he's OG. It will be different for sure. Hard enough to run away from people with good aim as it is.

Just makes you foot PvP less and actually USE dinos

[acoustic canyon]

they will 100% raise movement speed.

[indigo gust]

Question is how much 🙂

[acoustic canyon]

i think its the opposite actually. foot pvp will be more enjoyable because u will be able to actually hit ppl

[indigo gust]

People are so good at aiming you can hardly run away from them. I doubt it will be more enjoyable

Unless aiming becomes more difficult

Which it could

More like aiming down sight all the time. Even if you are in 3rd person

So it drifts and wobbles

And recoils

[sudden depot]

Microraptors

[lone moon]

This mans gonna cry when he can't use cloner for 3 months or so lmao

[young cave]

Tha I know, but does the armor type matters by any means?

[keen hare]

You should probably read what i posted again just a little bit slower jat even confirmed all island tek will be available day 1 including dedis which comes way after cloners

[young cave]

so yu say a 100 armor flak is better than a 150 armor chitin?

[indigo gust]

Yes. Low Armor = more damage goes through from hits.

[broken zephyr]

no man just look for higher number thats it

[indigo gust]

But obviously if you have a high Armor item with only 20 durability it will just break after 1 hit. You want a good combination of both if possible

[wheat coral]

Whos claiming which ones? Im debating on playing solo for the first month and just griefing everyone until SE opens up.

[lunar reef]

Who u tryin to scare boi

[broken zephyr]

I mean yeah if your a smaller group it’s ideal to stay away from lower especially single digit servers as well as like iconic numbers like flat 10’s and meme numbers. Bigger groups do tend to prioritize the nicer sounding numbers

[wheat coral]

Fuck that. I want pvp. You know how easy it is going to be to grief Island with no transfers? Shit was fire, back in Legacy. Some of the best pvp.

[balmy field]

Idgaf about number I’m joining the first one I see😂

[rocky trail]

Have fun 1 v 50'ing

[lone moon]

How you joining if its 70/70 lol

[rocky trail]

Were talking about server numbers

[lone moon]

I'm replying to pumpkin. Cuz it should be packed day 1

[rocky trail]

So "OfficialArkSmallTribes456_______Island_______30/70_________255

[lone moon]

No. Server player count 70/70

[rocky trail]

Not the player count, the server's number / name

[rocky trail]

You don't understand

[lone moon]

Yes and the first servers you see are going to be lower number aka mega capped servers

It defaults by server name unless you change the sort

[rocky trail]

It depends how the servers sort by defult in Ark Asc

[lone moon]

Too simple to copy paste the server browser code for that type of change you would think. Maybe an overlay or ui change but defaults don't seem likely to change

[keen hare]

They said new ui for asa

[lone moon]

There will havto be something new for the mods for sure. To show what servers run what

[keen hare]

Menu probably not though

[cosmic patrol]

Move speed needed a massive nerf. I would done made it 0.5% ever time you leved it.

My problem with no leveling is everyone will be a weight build and it will completly kill the foot pvp.

I don't think caves will be any less popular. If any thing I think they will be more popular than ever without cryos.

If they wanted to give land bases a chance they need to fix parasaur boxes and massively buff structure health.

[neat scaffold]

I always crank my movement speed so this is gonna be fun to get used to

It was like that with flyer movement speed too tho

[balmy field]

Good internet download fast

[neat scaffold]

Used to always use an argy

[verbal tulip]

There’s a reason it’s able to be 100/70

[balmy field]

Plus day one it will probably crash at least a few times

[verbal tulip]

So hard getting a small tribe together on this game

Everybody is American or eu

And the few aussies and Hawaiians are too shit to recruit

[mystic orchid]

Anyone have experience living/surviving on a platform mosa base on official? I’ve only done it on fibercraft and smalls, and want to know if it’s actually viable on official. I’ve survived for months in a Raft base, but want to go the “submarine route”.

[mystic orchid]

What system are you on? I’m on PS5 but prefer to have a few Aussies because of banter and time zones. What makes you want to go for smalls this go around? I’m coming from smalls with a plan to go Official to have a bigger tribe

[verbal tulip]

Just find raiding especially for loot on 1x worthless

Smalls also better rates

And I think it’s more competetive

[mystic orchid]

I forgot about how trash the loot was on official lol. I may change my mind and go back to smalls

[rocky trail]

Not really tbh

[verbal tulip]

It is no one is good who is an Aussie

Or plays

Or that time zone in general

Same

I got 1 Hawaiian but I don’t want him on alone for 6 hours

And I’m not tryna stay up until 6am to cover

[mystic orchid]

I’ve learned that on PS, EU Players play for longevity. NA Players are there for pvp and briefing. I’m a NA Player who was recruited into a mega with lots on EU players and that’s when I really learned management

[verbal tulip]

And for some reason every eu player is nocturnal so they basically na

[mystic orchid]

There’s definitely some truth to both sides lol. I’ve met some great players and some trash players from both regions

It’s all from personal experience haha. That doesn’t make it invalid! It does make sense that everyone is copy and pasted because all they do is search YouTube for the latest meta

That’s why I want to try living on a mosa. I know it seems bob-like, but I want to do something different, Amber with a dedicated team, it could work. It worked on Rag when 6 of us lived on rafts, but with the island and Leeds, I want a better strategy

Are you meaning the mana/fabby/flamethrower style?

I thought about that, but everyone knows where the caves are, where as I could move a mobile base near world border and mass spam turrets tusos and mosas

[meager quest]

You have a better chance with making a sky box quetzal base tbh

[mystic orchid]

I’m excited to have a period where tek doesn’t exist lol. The c spin is definitely going to be everyone’s default since movement speed is gone

[meager quest]

If someone has a tuso your mosa is toast

[mystic orchid]

I thought of that as well but I wouldn’t be able to defend it with a turret wall

Can’t until rag drops. Have to do the bosses to unlock the engram

[meager quest]

You'd need to do bosses. At that point just take over an actually op spot instead of relying on platform saddles

[mystic orchid]

Very true. It would only work if I could hide it behind a turret wall

[meager quest]

I agree with you

[mystic orchid]

Guess that settles it! Mosa base is definitely a bob move. Thanks!

[wheat spindle]

vac is from alpha dragon which is on island

[mystic orchid]

Completely forgot about that. I’m so used to Rag, I only think about what Rag has available

Haven’t played in about two years lol

[cosmic patrol]

Yeah, but no cryos you not going to be able to breed enough to do dragon without a op cave base.

[wheat spindle]

i feel like everyone is thinking water is going to be meta but not understanding just how hard it is going to be to get tek especially on smalls

[cosmic patrol]

Even without tek if you get either of the underwater artifact caves on island ur set.

[wheat spindle]

basilo too strong for water to be viable i feel like

you need tek to defend water

and on smalls its going to be a different tribe in every cave good luck getting all the arts for tek

[cosmic patrol]

Yeah, but someone that means your either fighting someone that has water base. Or someone got to go out of their way to get good baso to raid you.

[wheat spindle]

especially because generator is locked behind carno and pack

[jovial burrow]

Guys, just making sure the Basillo can’t bleed from the megalodon, correct!

[wheat spindle]

i mean i get the meg is good but tuso can grab meg basilo cant be grabbed

[cosmic patrol]

It really just depends on how big the other tribes on the server are.

[wheat spindle]

hell a carbo swarm will wipe and underwater base

[jovial burrow]

Basilo also can’t be bleed by megladons too

[cosmic patrol]

I thought there were no transfers.

Oh

If transfers then you definitely need tek to live underwater.

Everything not open land base pvp is boring.

[meager quest]

Facts. Cave raids are lame

[cosmic patrol]

Mesh biting and grappling is not fun.

[jovial burrow]

I’m telling you if they don’t change ice cave and you have Easy or Hard UW, you are not getting wiped awhile

[cosmic patrol]

Maybe with the cave reworks if you can get more medium sized dinos it will be more fun.

[jovial burrow]

People forget how toxic it was to raid without cryos

A lot of players in ark rn joined because of cryos

[weary rose]

Not the ones who lived it

[jovial burrow]

True😂

It is realistically going to take tribes, even mega a little bit before they even start taming water dinos

[meager quest]

Ark after cryos became super weenie hut jr.

[jovial burrow]

Because without pods, you can’t keep them safe really

[verbal tulip]

Cryos were legit the best update to the game

Helps solo players big tribes bad players good players

[jovial burrow]

True, but usually rng if things go according to plan @rocky trail

[weary rose]

Fax and everyone has underestimated the space you need for the lines. Especially if you doing just caves. Think about the ones rn on island that you need for basically every line.

[cosmic patrol]

Cryos were needed but they were poorly executed. Imo

[jovial burrow]

Also, you guys gotta remember Island has low level tames

[verbal tulip]

How they are now is perfect

Like it makes the game so shit without them

[jovial burrow]

@rocky trail Like what’s happening on the server you’re taking over is there another big tribe you have to start going to war day two things like that

[verbal tulip]

Hidden bases and ratholes are just nerfed so small tribes are just that much more at a disadvantage

[cosmic patrol]

Cryos shouldn't be poki balls. Cryos and battery turrets ruined pvp.

[verbal linden]

LFM ASA NA 15+ DM for more info and ur stats

[jovial burrow]

Same

[weary rose]

Nah I remember when you had to get on because gigas was popping and you would have to wait like 3 days for more eggs

[jovial burrow]

You never know!

[verbal tulip]

When cryos first came out no timer or sickness maybe but now they make PvP better

Bat heavies just mean you don’t have to bring a pill box didn’t change PvP

[balmy field]

I played 1x when Val came out and it was two megas fighting for 2 weeks before we wiped them

[meager quest]

If definitely does happen

[cosmic patrol]

Nah, Cryos should need something like a transmitter to pull them in an out of cryo.

[weary rose]

Maybe but having people set back because of cryos is better.

[jovial burrow]

I think the best plan of action, regardless of tribe size should be to secure main. so get the starter ready get the tames needed to run the boss, fight, etc. then take your main base location then tame water dinos

[verbal tulip]

Than only big tribes would have em and the gap just gets bigger and harder to close

[verbal tulip]

Only hurts weaker players and smaller tribes

[cosmic patrol]

Someone just throwing out a giga or a Rex mid pvp is just dumb imo.

[weary rose]

No not at the start since you can’t transfer servers. Smaller tribes can either do some alliance thing and band together. Second have multiple bases since it’s like 13 pearl caves around.

[meager quest]

Facts. Small tribes dont have to stay small

[verbal tulip]

It’s so much harder cause the best way to build up as a small tribe is to hide your loot and cryos when you get off whereas the big tribes don’t have to cause they aren’t gonna get insta wiped

[jovial burrow]

If we are gonna balance cryos it’s simple

[verbal tulip]

Sure pocket gigas are dumb

[jovial burrow]

If you upload or transfer the Dino in a cryo, and if you throw that Dino out. It has that 24 hour cooldown applied to it even if you pod it! Gg done

[verbal tulip]

They should honestly add a 1-2 min PvP timer to cryos

So if you in any PvP you can’t throw them out

[weary rose]

It’s no dead servers at the start. Smaller tribes can live on wiggle room and ally with bigger tribes. Obviously it’s Ark more heads more progress unless you stupid

[verbal tulip]

No there isn’t

[cosmic patrol]

Maybe large dinos (Giga,bronto, etc) need a special machine to cryo.

[meager quest]

Lmao

[verbal tulip]

True

But they just should’ve never made them buildable to begin with

Honestly I think cave building is the biggest issue

[cosmic patrol]

I think caves should just get nerfed harder and they should just make raiding a lot harder.

[verbal tulip]

Yes they are no small tribe is taking a cave unless they start to get fat

[meager quest]

Caves yes, raiding is fine

[verbal tulip]

But you just gonna get steamrolled

[cosmic patrol]

Raiding land bases is just to easy to raid cause you only have to soak one side of 5.

[verbal tulip]

You basically have to build hidden as a small tribe until you get fat

Caves can never be nerfed enough

Cause 100 turrets at 1 choke is always better than 25 turrets on 1 side

Plus no tame sniping

[cosmic patrol]

No, Heavys or teks in cave?

[verbal tulip]

That would be good

So you could build fat towers outside still

Bro idk what game you playing where smaller tribes living in caves

All good caves are insta taken

By fat tribes

[cosmic patrol]

Small tribes get run through the once they get found. Small tribes haven't existed since they nerfed tek turrets.

[verbal tulip]

What open caves are there on official

Like just starting out

Or a few days in

No caves are open that are good

Your playing fibercrafts bro

[fathom hatch]

Agreed

[verbal tulip]

Ain’t no open ices

[fathom hatch]

Ice caves do get left open once late game happens

[balmy field]

Not on fresh wipe

[fathom hatch]

But not on a island only

Once all dlc is out sure

[verbal tulip]

Bro there were 0 open islands Ice on steam smalls or win10 smalls I promise

[balmy field]

Win10 I think there were a few

[verbal tulip]

No got a discord channel with a pic of all of em

[cosmic patrol]

The reality is you can never do enough to balance out big tribe VS small tribe.

So we really shouldn't be making something op cause small tribes can use it.

[verbal tulip]

But they aren’t op

They make more spots viable

[lunar reef]

Here is a tought, if you a small tribe, go play small tribes servers

[balmy field]

still alliances there. Hopefully devs maintain rules on new clusters

[verbal tulip]

Not what I mean by small mean fresh starting

[fathom hatch]

And add more spots tbh

[verbal tulip]

Money hungry wildcard ain’t adding extra servers or working more on maps

[wheat spindle]

my only worry is that they arent going to release nearly enough servers to fit the demand. every server is going to be capped and people just wont be able to play

[sweet peak]

Lol I’m have 40 deep day 1 lol

[verbal tulip]

I’m scared there gonna be insta dossed

[naive token]

Nah there won’t be people that sad surely also I can’t wait for this week I know the game probably won’t come out but omg the trailers and the pictures and leaks are gunna make me be able to fly with excitement

Wrong place

[hazy coral]

I wish teck would not come back

[cosmic patrol]

If they don't have considerable amount of effort put into anti-cheat and ddos the game is going to be rough.

[sweet peak]

I don’t like the Tek armor but the rep and genny and trans nice

[hazy coral]

PVP would just be better. Same as breeding. It just should give you colors. It would make taming still important.

Can't wait for ASA. Very excited.

[mild hawk]

True

[supple thicket]

just hoping it isn't ruined by all the cheese stuff, random turret tower on beach & blocked obelisk.

[wheat spindle]

blocked obelisks are going to be a thing its just how its going to be. no cryos to hold boss dinos so the big tribes will just keep them at the obelisks. even before ASA blocking obelisks was common. now its going to be even more common since theres no cryos and people have to download tames

[supple thicket]

rip, they need an anti building bubble around them, + they can use nodes that spawn from sky to transfer right?

if you play pvp small tribes now its so aids

well it was..

[wheat spindle]

yes you can use the loot drops to transfer and download dinos but alpha tribes are not going to sit and wait for a loot drop to run a boss fight they will just lock down an obelisk

i never saw obelisks being blocked as the worst thing. sure it was an annoyance but there was always drops to transfer off at and very rarely was red ob blocked on smalls at least

[sweet peak]

Lol me an my 40 man gonna brake blue ob

[wheat spindle]

smalls blue was never built i know on 1x it was common

[sweet peak]

Yea some caves r gonna be unraidable early no cryoed or movement speed

Rocket running not gonna be a thing now

Take

Dk why it said brake

[wheat coral]

lol. The devs had to change drop locations several times to counter Megas blocking off every drop and obelisk. Very few, did it 100% properly but there was a period where you could legit be stuck on a map, having to farm c4 or tame an artho if you got bodied. Became less of a problem, after gen 1 dropped, and trans were more readily available. Blowing every obelisk, terminal, drop, and charging station, were some of the best griefs, due to how much time, megas would put into blocking them.

[wheat spindle]

i was referring to in smalls i cant say anything about 1x i never played it

[lunar reef]

Just phone a friend

[wheat coral]

bruh, you got roasted hard if you got caught stuck on a map. Ive had to bail out a few tribemates over the years, and that shit was a running joke for years.

[keen hare]

From a x1 prospective 40 isn't much

[sweet peak]

Ik

[modest harness]

I remember these days...

[limpid rain]

i remember spawning on a serv and getting my char in spike wall, and every spawn was the same, spike wall everywhere, I never knew if there was a counterplay to that unless you transfer with some flaks. (It was when there was only Center, Island, and SE)

[stiff karma]

Spawn into traps and be stuck there until your tribe came with c4

Turret towers in the scar

Some don’t know the pain of raising tames before cryo’s and increased imprint intervals was a thing

[sullen veldt]

Getting up every what was it 4h to imprint shit...

[stiff karma]

Imagine getting up and having the intervals not link up and it being 30-45 apart

[sullen veldt]

Or server lag having pushed it back

Yep

[stiff karma]

Or having to get specific eggs to make specific kibble to tame. Now it’s just based on egg size lmao

[meager quest]

Broooo. We had to make a whole warehouse just for kibble tames

[south harbor]

That is because no need to farm boss with all new maps with easy elements. But asa with only island to start all obelisk will be build

[rocky trail]

It’s gonna be built on every smalls server now I reckon, TP for Ice cave especially

[wraith lark]

Yeah it’s def going to be built, I think 10-10 berg and carno going to be good too.

My sleeper pick is pack cave

[hard ermine]

How long do you think it will take the first successful tek cave run for smalls

[fleet cobalt]

4 days

[keen hare]

I honestly don't know how tek cave will work since it's uploads your character and there is no trasnfers

Unless its an allied server sharing artifacts i don't see it happening for a good while

On x1 i hope to have it done before the extra life if the game releases this week

[fleet cobalt]

It's gonna release 31st

[keen hare]

No body knows yet

[hard ermine]

I only ever done tek cave on unofficial it was bad enough.. If tribes block each artifacts going be hard

[stiff karma]

Have to transfer to other servers and get them that way, or trade for artifacts

[keen hare]

No server transfers lol

[stiff karma]

I mean they’ll open them up eventually. I don’t see that being static

Carchar actually small enough to enter tek cave, but doesn’t get ported into boss fight

[scenic cedar]

yeah i think they said december

supposed to open all transfer when pc crossplay is enabled

[hard ermine]

Will they have server to server transfers at first

[stiff karma]

2 months, I figure they want people to have a chance to build before they get griefers

[scenic cedar]

it wont matter lmao steam megas are gonna own all servers

[stiff karma]

Actually true

Im tryna be one them

[scenic cedar]

wouldn’t be surprised if they have cheats by the time transfers open

[hard ermine]

So me as a solo won’t have a chance of well it happens

[scenic cedar]

your best to stick to smalls

im not even playing official unless they have active gms

[stiff karma]

Yeah if you’re solo, go smalls

[hard ermine]

I only played smalls as a solo for about 2 years never had a real good base set up yet… I’m sure in smalls 30 ppl will still ally

[scenic cedar]

youll get wiped daily if you play island solo

no rat spots

its dumb

[hard ermine]

Yeah 100% I’m think 2-3 times wiped daily like before

[scenic cedar]

everyones gonna be in vacuum bases or quetz

but also no cryos so

[hard ermine]

Can a quetz stay flying in the air when I’m off line

[scenic cedar]

yeah if you get off it itll stay in the air

that could change in asa tho

[hard ermine]

I suppose we don’t really know till we start playing it…. I’ll have to try a few different things see what works

[keen hare]

Alot of sellers have said if the anti cheat isn't super cracked then they could have them out in a few hours aftwr launch

[hard ermine]

When more maps opens should get easier to hide

[scenic cedar]

not surprised

theyll probably end up canceling steam crossplay

better for the games health

[hard ermine]

You could still cheat on PS and Xbox before

[scenic cedar]

not on ps but you can cheat in win 10

[hard ermine]

That’s what I throught…. Hope they have console servers only

[scenic cedar]

yeah smalls will be unplayable like it was on ase

hopefully they have console only smalls

[rose leaf]

Nah fr same

[scenic cedar]

there will be console only servers thats confirmed they have console/pc and ps/xbox im pretty sure

and the console pc will open with steam servers when transfers open

[keen hare]

So:

Crossplay A - Xbox, PlayStation, Windows.
Non-PC Crossplay - Xbox, Playstation
Crossplay B - Steam

and then once we're on fast-cert

Crossplay A and B will get merged

So we'll have

Crossplay AB - Xbox, PlayStation, Windows, Steam
Non-PC Crossplay - Xbox, PlayStation

This is what dollie said

[scenic cedar]

yeah defo not playing with steam

that shi is not fair lmao

any mega dumb enough to think theyll survive when steam joins crossplay is stupid

theyre on a completely different level

[keen hare]

My tribe is 160 members roughly id say 90-95% are pc we are playing w10 then it'll merge with steam

[scenic cedar]

steam pvp is a completely different world

[rose leaf]

Nah fr and the ps4 players are so fucking garbage likes it’s crazy😂😂

[scenic cedar]

they make the meta for everyone

[keen hare]

Steam has just been dupe wars for a long time and turrets don't shoot properly im hoping asa will be different

[scenic cedar]

the state of steam cheats rn is also insane

[rose leaf]

Yall ps5 players ready get fucked up by us Xbox players ngl😂

[scenic cedar]

but those steam mega just operate insanely efficiently

[keen hare]

Everyone is going after Playstation

[rose leaf]

XD

Fuck steam they cheat to much

[scenic cedar]

win 10 has more cheaters

but steam cheats are just 100x better

[rose leaf]

Funny thing is I’m on it rn XDD

[keen hare]

Console would cheat just as hard given the option

[scenic cedar]

couldnt play smalls without getting botted and cant play high pop unofficial without the same issue

[rose leaf]

But on Xbox I got 450 days played

[keen hare]

It's just been arks main meta forever exploit and cheats

[scenic cedar]

because they make it so easy lmao

[rose leaf]

I’m on win 10 rn doing it

Just for the fun on unofficial until Asa

[meager quest]

Hope they real do deal with cheaters. Ark with no meshing, duping or aimbotting would be so nice

[rigid saddle]

Shame the devs arent very smart and add extremely unbalanced tames like rhynios astro dolphins etc

Console is fucked when crossplay is up lmao steam can easily take both consoles on

[meager quest]

Steam wont have crossplay at the beginning. Only window pc and consoles

[lament owl]

oh ye

ue5 "should" fix meshing bc of the fill in feature it gives. Long as they can keep duping under control. And no like op ass cheats like gens off again

Can deal with norm aimbot

[keen hare]

On x1 aimbot isn't a big issue duping and spoofing is the worst

[candid garden]

They haven't, cheats are ready for asa, all depends now how good the anitcheat is

[lament owl]

no aimbot aint an issue bc imma just sit on a stego and snipe them back. hit them twice flak gone kek.

Or just do what everyone used to do. And call your own botter

99.9% of aimbotters in ark are the most braindead ass ppl

[fleet cobalt]

Tad bit racist mate

[lament owl]

Ye but im not worried about losing a random kit while farming. More about getting harrassed at yo base

[rocky trail]

I hope to see more dev wipes,and full tribe bans for cheaters in asa,don’t just punish the cheater but any tribes they were tribed in on all servers or affiliated with

[lament owl]

True do like they do on classic "minus the tea stuff kek"

any aimbotter linked to tribe. They get deved

[steep dove]

you can cheat on console using capture card, pixel bot and 3rd party controler mods like zen.

[scenic cedar]

zen has 0 practical use on ark

[steep dove]

zen is able to change controller inputs before sending to the console

so it does have a use

[scenic cedar]

what use could you possibly have for a zen on ark

[steep dove]

a combination of capture card, pixel bot and a controller mod like zen

those 3 allow aimbot on ark

people do it. there was a cod aimbot for console a while ago that was taken down before it got big

[scenic cedar]

no they don’t a zen is the closest thing you could get to cheats for console

[steep dove]

a controller mod 'LIKE' a zen

i said like a zen 3 times

[scenic cedar]

theres nothing like a zen thats close to cheating

[steep dove]

your not listening

[scenic cedar]

bro

[steep dove]

you can use a controller mod and a pc script to adjust inputs before it gets to console

it gets used now. its just not common

[scenic cedar]

what are you on about man

[steep dove]

right ill explain it a 4th time

you can use a capture card to send the video to pc then use a pixel bot and then use a controller mod and a pc script to adjust inputs before it gets to console so you have aimbot

script is the wrong word but hopefully you know what i mean

[scenic cedar]

thats about the dumbest shit ive ever heard

[lament owl]

pc cheats still 90x more ridic

[steep dove]

its dumb but people have used it

[rocky trail]

U never herd of a gacha script ?

[lament owl]

ling ling gacha tower on top. Never farm arb again :]

[steep dove]

there are scripts to auto raise for you aswell

[candid garden]

Aww what

[scenic cedar]

scripts are not the same as what he’s explaining

[lament owl]

U can make scripts for anything

[scenic cedar]

only use for a zen is maybe a few scripts to automate things that are very simple

[steep dove]

you also said they had 0 use on console

[lament owl]

can make scripts that ran gen 2 missions for u

[scenic cedar]

idk about that

the mission changes almost every time

[lament owl]

Idk bout console but ppl had them on pc. Race missions

[scenic cedar]

oh yeah races

[lament owl]

Still afk points

[scenic cedar]

but not hunts of anything like that

[lament owl]

nah but ppl didnt need to do hunts. Had vaults of tek rifles and weapons. And cc bps so eh

Knowone really scripted missions after a while. Had been a long time since id seen it

Just saying that loads of weird things are possible with scrips. Idk bout console. Probs can but more annoying

[rocky trail]

👎

[lament owl]

mad cause bad?

[rigid saddle]

Mhyner your first language english?

@lament owl

[lament owl]

Mhm

Im just southern so i speed informal english

And not gonna sweat grammar in discord

[rigid saddle]

Is knowone a word?

[lament owl]

no

Depends on context but meh

[keen hare]

Takes one to know one ??

[lament owl]

not really seen as a proper way to say it

[lament owl]

Dayummmm

[keen hare]

I'm just joshing

I think we are all bored waiting for asa being discord mains

[rigid saddle]

‘Knowone’ aka “no one”

Can this shit game hurry up

[wheat spindle]

Could not agree more

[lament owl]

I got a ping in tribe disc td saying "u must be bored see u talking in ark offi discord again"

[wheat spindle]

I stopped playing ark like a month after gen 2 but now I literally can't think about any other game. That's how excited I am

[lament owl]

u missed a lot if u stopped playin then

[keen hare]

I'm just working instead of playing games in my free time ark been the only game ive enjoyed since black ops 2

[lament owl]

I missed the dysync astro aimbot. Was great

100% uncounterable

[rigid saddle]

I miss 2018 ark

[lament owl]

congrats the meta will come back a little. For a few months

[rigid saddle]

Cant wait to have on serv war on smalls

[lament owl]

not really but yk

Eh depends what server and what tribe / ally is on the server

or if u get lucky and its randoms

[rigid saddle]

Idk why the devs add stupid shit like astro dolphs to the game

Need to see what they do to caves

[lament owl]

Not much

said they aint changin them too much

[rigid saddle]

Should just have no cave building imo

[keen hare]

No caves servers would die so quickly

[rigid saddle]

Especially bc there is drops and artifacts in them just leave them for pve and we’ll have land bases again

[keen hare]

Would need huge changes to the game

[rigid saddle]

Why

[lament owl]

no cave building with stego dll still in

would be terrible. Drop stego's onto someones land base with rocket rider. make hole go in

[keen hare]

Turret increase stats decrease saddle nerf less structure on plat dinos structure buff

[lament owl]

mhm

[rigid saddle]

Quetz bombing shouldnt be a thing either

[lament owl]

and with aimbot imagine.

[rigid saddle]

Clipping your structures through theirs

[lament owl]

u mean like backwards racering / hatchframe racerin

[rigid saddle]

All that shit

[lament owl]

Imagine ppl illegal racering with only land bases

[rigid saddle]

“Illegal”

They could make it so you cant

[lament owl]

Not the type im talking about. Those backward / hatchframe are fine

they counterable.

[rigid saddle]

Quetz bombing with your structures glitching through their base to c4 shouldnt be a thing

2018 19 not many people had caves just land bases

[lament owl]

Well thats never coming back

meta changed. Id get over it now lol

Chokes are just way betta

[rigid saddle]

But boring af

[lament owl]

Welcome to ark

[rigid saddle]

Having a few extremely op spots

[lament owl]

op spot means nothing if bobs defending it

[rigid saddle]

How you raiding ice cave with no cryos and 100 turrets

Not possible

If built well

[lament owl]

They gonna nerf ice u monkey

read the cc's before u complain

Legit basiclly got name dropped in the cc

Probs player walk entrance my guess

[wheat spindle]

I think they are gonna make it trike soakable but probably not stego. Stego sized would make the cave too big

[lament owl]

Trike would be op

Trike soak on top for griefin

espesh with no good lines. Takes like 7dmg to head from heavy with imp and such

[wheat spindle]

I mean it takes longer than tek rifling the wall down

[lament owl]

Ye have fun running bosses on the enemy server. To get the ele

and prim rifles oof

[wheat spindle]

I used to do it with prim rifles

[lament owl]

online?

[wheat spindle]

Noo offline

On smalls

[lament owl]

If they aint got an offline timer. With any good tribe that owns a server wont have one. Gl with any of that

[wheat spindle]

Well Goodluck raiding any cave base with no offline timer any time soon lol

[lament owl]

and eh ez / carno probs better than ice if they remove crouch

Oh no caves gonna basiclly not be raidable if they defenders have a brain. Till ext probs

@rocky trail get me off. "not crime wise" :]

[warm ruin]

Just wondering will the oce servers for small tribes be able to transfer to na and eu servers? Or will there even be oce servers

Were oce servers connected to na and eu servers on small tribes?

[wheat spindle]

honestly i have no clue as far as i know it was only na and eu

[rigid saddle]

I know you spaz i was making an example you bob

[lament owl]

Says the man who thinks land bases would work with this meta

[rigid saddle]

I didnt say that I said I hope it would go back to land bases

Guy cant even spell no one

“Knowone”

You must genuinely have a brain injury or something if your first language is english and you spelled it like that

Caves will mean it will go back to being one tribe owning the entire server again being unraidable which is just boring af

Look at conquest they had no cave building and only died because of cheating and obvs tea

[sweet peak]

I’m looking for more members of our official Xbox/ps5 tribe pm if u want to join

[amber vortex]

#1110949794907684965 go brrr

[keen hare]

Sounds laggy af

[sweet peak]

? Laggy

[heavy crown]

bro xbox isint laggy TnT

looking for an unoffical steam server with a tribe to join

pm me

[heavy crown]

hmmm idk

[lament owl]

Yes and no. “Pc perspective smalls” At launch no bc they take a week to raise and are aids. Once raised ye not much that can kill / counter them. But like a week in 1 tribe will already be alpha or least way ahead. But once scorch drops a few months in. Lighting / poison wyvs will counter it pretty well

[rigid saddle]

Makes no sense to even add them tbh until lost island comes out their is not really a counter on island

When tf this trailer dropping this is ridiculous

[keen hare]

Wyvern don't really counter them

[lament owl]

Eh only thing close to fast enough to catch them

Also wont have near the stats they did on ase. They inherit the stats if the dino they lay they egg in. So no 200hp 100dmg rex to hatch outta. Only pretty eh tames

[stiff karma]

What’s Rex raise these days, still 4 days?

2 months, breeds could be through the roof

[lament owl]

But if they nerf how much stats mutations give. (Like said in cc) stuff probs wont get the stats they used to

3 months

[keen hare]

They was used in classic with basic tames fighting basic tames with much more options then just island and se and they was way too op

[lament owl]

Fair. I didnt play classic

[keen hare]

Could take a week just to get 42+ hp and damage males though then getting enough 00s to be affective with muts

[lament owl]

Negs gonna take longer than 3 months lol

[keen hare]

I think getting good starter lines will be the biggest differences with alot of big tribes

[keen hare]

Negs may not even be a thing

[lament owl]

They said they aint changing it in the cc

[keen hare]

I don't think neg was mentioned at all tbh i could be wrong though

[lament owl]

Well they said u can still get over the 20/20

[keen hare]

What's neg 32 iterations

[lament owl]

Just they probs are redusing the stats the mutations give. Rn mutations give wild stat bonus. So capped stego is like taming a 254 ho stego. Can change that mut value to give leas stat

[lament owl]

. Previously, mutations were based on a creature's wild stat multiplier, and now we’ve given it its multiplier. This has led to some creatures receiving some buffs/nerfs in particular stats, but we intend to rebalance this over time as we evaluate their roles in the meta.

maybe rex hp will be less. Who knows its up to wc now

[rigid saddle]

Either way they are way too fast and good at picking they pick like griffs but move way better and have way more hp stam weight and can freeze tames pick rexes etc they have way too many abilities compared to every other tame on island

[lament owl]

Mhm. Just gonna have to raid everyone on your server first. And then raise as many of them as possible

[rigid saddle]

Also kinda boring if im maining island again I want to foot pvp no worry about a guy on a rhynio dropping a theri on me after insta picking me off my pt

Good strat tho whistle a theri on someone after picking them

Are they slower with a tame in their claws?

[lament owl]

Not really

[rigid saddle]

Surely you should fly alot slower carrying a tame the same size as you lmao

And they can carry vaults capped with metal etc

Idk i didnt care they when they were added bc the game was dead i wasnt even playing then but why add it to the first map idk just a bit gay

Trailer needs to drop this week otherwise its dropping same day as asa

[lament owl]

Will be what it will be.

And ye hopefully tmr. Then release friday?

but probs friday and release next tuesday

[rigid saddle]

I hope it releases either mon or tur

Tue

Or they delay and just lose some money

It does say on a cc about the trailer releasing when the game releases

[shy escarp]

Wrong. Gameplay trailer is this Wednesday during the xbox showcase.

[lament owl]

If they release it at a random x box showcase but didnt do it at twitchcon. they dumb

[shy escarp]

And you are entitled to your opinion. But this isn't an "if". It is confirmed by xbox and jat.

[lament owl]

Nah its facts they dumb kek. Been killin they game for years. But eh

[shy escarp]

Again, your opinion. The discord has been growing and until recently so had players in game.

[candid garden]

twitchcon isnt really a place where devs reveal their games lol

[lament owl]

Yes bc discord members = players. Im talkin bout the pvp scene and they enforement

[shy escarp]

There is no reason the discord numbers do not indocate interest in the game. And I said playerbase is growing, not one specific thing. Unofficial scene is huge. PvE is huge. Llenty of single players tok. There are multiple ways to ejoy the game.

[lament owl]

You're in the pvp channel ya sped

bob

have fun attempting to tame a rex. And failing for 20 hrs

[rigid saddle]

Where did they say that?😂

[shy escarp]

Does not change my statement. Your opinion is not fact nor speaks for everyone. Or even most.

[shy escarp]

In the gen chat. It's pinned.

[rigid saddle]

I dont see it tbh

[lament owl]

I mean my opinion that shit is the pvp chat? do be facts. Just bc u love pve bobin and being on beaches for thousands of hrs and getting knowwhere with 0 fear is a snooz tbh

[shy escarp]

See you just blindly assume things. I have near 8k hours in pvp. Your opinion is not fact, that is the very definition of an opinion. Use basic brain function.

[rigid saddle]

8k lol

[shy escarp]

It's pinned.. in the gen chat...

[lament owl]

8k hrs and u still a bob. Wild

[rigid saddle]

Yh i see

[lament owl]

not even in the offi smalls discord. But have 8k tf do u play

[shy escarp]

Still blindly assuming, smh. Guess using anything more than 3 braincells is difficult for you. Done talking to a willfully ignorant wall.

[lament owl]

Lol imma assume u a pvp farm bot for some mega. Enjoy that :]

[wheat spindle]

i have over 6k hrs on smalls and im not in the smalls discord lol im not a discord main i actually play the game

[shy escarp]

Ssshhh this implies he would have to critically think about things. Don't fry his tiny brain.

[wheat spindle]

oo right sorry

you're right buddy im just a slave for mega tribes what even is small tribes idk what that is

[lament owl]

so u never played in a big tribe. got it

And ooo discord maining when there isnt a game to play and just waitin

[wheat spindle]

you caught me i was just a measly tax payer on all of my servers 😦

[red pilot]

everyone is a discord main rn 🤦‍♂️

[wheat spindle]

never even raided tbh i just farmed metal and boss fights so i could pay server tax

[lament owl]

True

what serva number?

[paper coral]

whos rdy for the pure bob pvp??

[wheat spindle]

73 85 88 36 94 96 160 116

[paper coral]

this 1 time i met our mega tribe leader. he just looked at me. called me a good farmer

[lament owl]

It doesn't count at the end when the announcment came btw lol

Also what platform? bc u cant push a button to get a role

[wheat spindle]

i stopped playing a month into gen 2 on steam

[lament owl]

Bruh

different game lmao

[earnest sable]

They need to take away cave building

[wheat spindle]

same game just less people after gen 2

[earnest sable]

Idk what they were thinking releasing Gen2

[wheat spindle]

idk either it was cool on release but once the doplins and shadowmanes got capped i quit

[earnest sable]

Nets ruined pvp

[lament owl]

tf is your opinions.