ark-2

[untold ingot]

Hasn't been since 2015

[hearty osprey]

Pvp was never begginer friendly

[void imp]

Ark 2 gonna be so ahh

[serene onyx]

Not sure, I hope it’s decent excited for the new combat system

[winter garden]

Most useless channel

[nimble bay]

You lost me at Facebook and Twitter

Like is this a joke

[serene onyx]

Fr they cannot be serious

[civic pollen]

@worldly garden is meshing be fixxed soon?

if you know any info

[hearty osprey]

yeah, next monday

my uncle john WC told me

[civic pollen]

balright

[untold ingot]

Lmao

[civic pollen]

fR

[pseudo zodiac]

Nah i guess after GTA 6 Sonic 8 and Halo ODST 2

[wild bay]

Is there ever gonna be an ark 2?

[bleak yoke]

Probably one day

Maybe not

[serene onyx]

Yeah, but right now they are focusing on ASA don’t expect it for a couple years though

[hot valve]

Isn't Lost Colony supposed to bridge Ark: SE to Ark 2?

i feel like after Lost Colony, we'll probably see something

[split dove]

they said it would take 18 months of non stop work to get Ark 2 into a early access state, and the fastest they can start is after Genesis part 2 as they can ask the mod map makers if they want to remaster their maps like Nekatus is doing right now.

"We put the vertical slice on hold a couple of years ago to make ASA, and we've been only nibbling at it since then," Stieglitz says. "A small portion of our team continues to refine the mechanics of [Ark 2's] combat… It's very difficult to do soulslike combat in a multiplayer PvP context. You could probably count the number of games on one hand that have even attempted that in an actual PvP context."

Stieglitz estimates that it would take roughly "18 months of hardcore team focus to [turn] that vertical slice into an early access game, when we get to put the vast majority of our team back on it." Later in our conversation, he predicts that the game could be in your hands (in an early access state) "hopefully within the next two years." However, he says that Studio Wildcard is still trying to find the right time to shift its resources off of ASA and onto Ark 2.

this is from an interview with PCGamesN from June this year

[hot valve]

Good to know

[gentle zealot]

Ark 2 for 2030 all the way

[dire valley]

@spare kindle

[mystic wharf]

I want try ark 2

When is gonna be the game ?

[mystic wharf]

One day i heard that its a différent team that was making ark 2 they lied or what ?

[split dove]

not really, the main force of Wildcards team went on to do Ark Ascended while a smaller portion remained to work on Ark 2 in the background

"A small portion of our team continues to refine the mechanics of [Ark 2's] combat… It's very difficult to do soulslike combat in a multiplayer PvP context. You could probably count the number of games on one hand that have even attempted that in an actual PvP context."

[dull geode]

@worldly garden can you explain what you know or what has been revealed about the NPC raids

[golden geyser]

So does this whole souls mechanics thing mean that the bosses are going to function like that as well? I’ll feel like I’m fighting a rancor in Jedi Survivor?

[split dove]

it's only been stated that player combat will be souls like, nothing about dino combat has been mentioned yet besides this in the founders note

For creature-scale combat, suffice it to say for now that when you attack something with your T-Rex in ARK 2, the results are visceral: the animation of the attack actually hard-impacts on the target (not “passing through” it), the victim’s flesh is torn, and the target physically reacts at that location to the hit – all to convey the feeling of the raw power of such a ferocious creature!

[tawny gulch]

It's crazy, y'all still think this game is coming out...

[worldly garden]

There's more evidence to suggest it is than there is to say it's not.

[mystic wharf]

It is coming out.

[split dove]

i suppose all those things teasing Ark 2 and tying it more into the story as of late like the PCGamesN interview with Jeremy (one of Arks co-founders) from June this year, Raaclaarks very recent questions he answered during Extra Life, Bob's tall Tales and the upcoming Bob's True tales and Lost Colony are a publicity stunt right? Ark 2 is coming in a few years after Genesis 2 they can outsource the mod maps to their makers to remaster them, after that Wildcard can get to work on Ark 2 for as they said ''18 months of hardcore work to get Ark 2 into a early access state''. but if it's even coming to Playstation is still a mystery and GP has a new video breaking it down (not sponsored)

[errant bison]

[thick moat]

what worries me is that they are gonna be doing more canon DLCs on ASA from what Jeremy said in the interview, i really hope thye are not greedy and that they split devs between asa and ark 2

[split dove]

i'm gonna lose it if that takes more time away from Ark 2

[thick moat]

praying that does not happen

[split dove]

one of the few prayers i make

[untold mica]

Hello.

I just found out that my bundle of Ark 2 and ASA has been taken and I only paid for ASA? Is that correct? I only bought it because of Ark 2 and thought ASA would be a nice interim solution. Well... I'll spare you the rest; I might as well have thrown my money out the window. A clever tactic by Wildcard and SnailGames... suddenly, their pay-to-win add-ons make so much more sense.

[split dove]

that would be impossible, as that bundle was only a idea that was abandoned before anything could be put up on a store front. the only bundle you could've bought was Ark Ascended wich includes all legacy Evolved DLC and the remasterded base game

[untold mica]

There was a bundle of both games for Xbox, but it was converted to ASA only. I also had to ask Chat GPT if I'd made a mistake. Thanks anyway 😉

[split dove]

did you perchance ask the question about a Ark 2 and Ark Ascended bundle to ChatGPT as well?

[untold mica]

Yes, I wanted to find out about the status of Ark 2, and what I learned from Chat gpt doesn't sound good.

[split dove]

GP has a new video covering the latest talks of Ark 2 and how Lost Colony is helping them refine gameplay elements that will be in Ark 2. it's going to be 2 years minimum before we might see anything Ark 2 gameplay related. they need to remaster Genesis part 1 and 2 before they can leave the last maps to their respective mod makers. Wildcards co-founder Jeremy said in a PCGmanesN interview in June this year that it would take the team 18 months of hardcore work to get Ark 2 into a early access state

**"We put the vertical slice on hold a couple of years ago to make ASA, and we've been only nibbling at it since then," Stieglitz says. "A small portion of our team continues to refine the mechanics of [Ark 2's] combat… It's very difficult to do soulslike combat in a multiplayer PvP context. You could probably count the number of games on one hand that have even attempted that in an actual PvP context."

Stieglitz estimates that it would take roughly "18 months of hardcore team focus to [turn] that vertical slice into an early access game, when we get to put the vast majority of our team back on it." Later in our conversation, he predicts that the game could be in your hands (in an early access state) "hopefully within the next two years." However, he says that Studio Wildcard is still trying to find the right time to shift its resources off of ASA and onto Ark 2.**

[untold mica]

That and more was also displayed to me in chat gpt, and I've already read about it here as well. I'm also guessing early access in 2027/2028 and full release in mabye 2030 or later?

[split dove]

i wouldn't trust ai sources firsthand, if you want to know if it's fully true i'd say look up some videos or articles first. and yeah most likely 2027/2028 for early access release. full release depends on how much they want to add on to the base game

[untold mica]

I did that, first I read a lot here, then I asked the AI ​​about the bundle and what's happening with Ark 2. I just wanted final confirmation here. I paid for Ark 2 for nothing, sad but true.

[mystic wharf]

I really want ark 2 i hope the new canon dlc they gonna make not gonna put ark 2 away because of that , i hope they Will not work on those new dlcs and then when they finished with that begin to work on ark 2 ?

By the way you prefer asa oe ark 2 like more into which game ? @split dove

[split dove]

i want to move forward with Ark 2. Ark 1 was fun and a unique niche in it's genre but it's showing it's age and the fact it was their first game. Ark 2 promises a new reinvented take on Ark while keeping the essential core of Ark (taming, survival, exploration etc) and expanding upon it. i'm loving the sounds of the component-based item crafting, PvE npc encounters with the Aratai, Dynamic world events, Advanced template building, a skill tree and creature ai that will suposedly track you based on hunt, sight and smell.

i had my fun with Ark 1 but i want Ark to move on and evolve (pun intended )

[mystic wharf]

You are like me i dont know why peoples hâte ark 2 so much and prefer asa although it sounds more interesting , peoples who prefer ark 2 are very rare from what i seen

[split dove]

the biggest arguments are about the souls-like combat and forced third person. and another factor could be rose-tinted nostalgia glasses

[dire valley]

.

🤫🤫

[mystic wharf]

I still dont get it even though I already played ark 1 since a long Time. I really like everything they said , for me soulike seems funnier than no combat at all like asa , the Dynamic events sounds so cool , being able to climb , swing etc.... So even though I played ark 1 a lot im still more interested in ark 2 i have no problem with third person or anything like that

When do you think ark 2 will come out though ? Which year ? @split dove

[untold mica]

I would have preferred to see Ark 2 before getting the re-release or adaptation to Unreal Engine 5 of Ark 1. The first part is getting a remaster, even though the second one isn't even out yet.

[dire valley]

nvm i js woke up mb

[mystic wharf]

Me too i didn't even asked for a remaster

But i wonder how its possible they are not even in an early access stage that's a joke , they probably abondonned the développement for a while

The thing is that they are Quick to make asa new maps but not ark 2 that sounds weird to me , i also Hope for a native orbitale caméra where you can walk or run while being able to turn the camera around you i hope it will be on lost colony and ark 2 just like soulike games , while on foot , riding dinos etc... That kind of caméra makes the game so immersive in third person and make better gameplay one thing i hâte in ark 1 is the frontal rigid caméra that take away immersion and you can't Even look behind you to Escape that is so frustating and make the gameplay harder so a native orbitale caméra will make the gameplay also easier make it happen @cunning talon

[untold mica]

I already saw the beginning of Ark 2 in Genesis 2 and I'm incredibly excited to finally play as Vinnie in Riddick style in an Ark game – who's the better killer? It's a shame it's going to be Souls-like. I don't particularly like those games, as they're supposed to drive you to despair, and in some cases, they already have 😅 The prison scene where the animals are released to be fed in the prison. I'm hoping to play something like that.

But this will be not to early.

[mystic wharf]

You just dont like the souls like combat type or the whole game (story) ? I Never played soulike though but the combat looks cool to me thats why i dont hâte it

[untold ingot]

There was never a bundle. It was announced but there was so much push back that it was rescinded. It wasn't a clever strategy, it was community driven to remove it

[untold mica]

I think it took me two full in-game days to defeat the Soul of Ash (final boss of Dark Souls 3). That was the longest fight of all three games. I didn't find it particularly thrilling 🤬😁 but the story and the visuals were breathtaking, like the Overseer fight in Ark.

[untold mica]

I am fairly certain I bought a bundle in 2024 on the XBOX Marketplace and I have confirmation that one was available for a short time before it became only ASA.

Edit: The Bundle was there in August 2023 for $49,99, but only for one year, i just looked into that myself.

[fallow lion]

too many people complain so they remove it

[untold mica]

After extensive online research, I discovered even more. Ark Ascended was released on Xbox in a Bundle with Ark 2 for €45 ($50), but on Steam and other platforms, only ASA was offered, and it was available for under €30 ($30). That's why I'm saying I essentially wasted about €20 by buying the bundle, just like everyone else who got early access to Ark Ascended on Xbox. Thanks for that. I didn't know that until now. It just keeps getting worse.

[worldly garden]

You are entirely mistaken. Wildcard originally announced an ASA/ARK2 bundle on their website, and after one week they changed it because of community backlash. This was months before the bundle was for sale.

The only bundle that has ever been for sale is ASA itself which includes all the original ASE maps included in the price.

Please don't rely so much on AI to answer questions about things it doesn't know personally.

[worldly garden]

No Xbox players bought any Ark 2 bundle... you just need to ask Xbox players to understand that.

[mystic wharf]

Lol

[untold mica]

It's been confirmed to me several times now that there was a bundle, and I was and still am certain I bought one. I even have the price confirmation of €45 on my Xbox as proof of payment. I can only find out how long it was offered as a bundle by searching online. Since Ark was added to Game Pass in April 2024, I don't think it was a full year, but even if it was only for a week, I bought it then.

[worldly garden]

You did not! It was on the ARK website for one week but was NOT on sale.
Wildcard announced the bundle, then changed their mind one week later.
Nothing was on sale until ASA released months later.

[worldly garden]

This was the original announcement in March 2023.
https://survivetheark.com/index.php?/articles.html/community-crunch-355-ark-roadmap-evo-event-and-more-r2075/

One week later this was the announcement of their change of plan in April 2023.
https://survivetheark.com/index.php?/articles.html/community-crunch-356-ark-roadmap-update-rhyniognatha-concept-and-more-r2078/

ASA released in October 2023. All ASE maps included in the price. No bundle with Ark 2.

[split dove]

thanks for saving me the time of getting the correct crunches, being the unofficial Ark 2 librarian can be time consuming

[mystic wharf]

Did they changed the bundle because peoples were complaining or because they couldn't finish ark 2 on Time ? @worldly garden

[hearty osprey]

people complaining

[worldly garden]

the backlash prompted it as it was only one week after they announced it.

[blissful perch]

This occurred before you could purchase either game

Nvm I see GP has it covered

[untold ingot]

Asa was not $30 on steam. Stop. Using chatgpt to do research

[hearty osprey]

asa is 45

some regions had less, but now it all the same mostly

[untold ingot]

People believing Ai results without verification is absolutely wild to me.

[split dove]

i did tell him earlier to read articles and videos covering said articles first if you want to know if something is real or not

[untold ingot]

Honestly, it makes me scared for the future of civilization 😂

[split dove]

we're lucky if we even get to the 2100's at this rate

[untold ingot]

Llms are phenomenal, they are really really useful. They are not black box knowledge sources

[dire valley]

@frozen rune

[untold mica]

I read the Community Crunch where Ark 2 and Ark Ascended were supposed to be bundled together for a year. G.P. even dug up the original version again. I didn't read the subsequent Community Crunch posts. Now I'm finding out what happened, and this is how people are talking about me? Without AI, I wouldn't believe it myself, but now I know I wasn't blind back then and that this offer was only available for a week.

"Xbox Series S/X and PC players will only be able to get it via an ultimate-value bundle known as the ARK Respawned Bundle. This bundle includes ownership of both ARK: Survival Ascended AND ARK 2 and will be priced at $49.99."

[long sparrow]

that never happened. people complained. that also wouldn't have included all the paid ASE DLC in ASA like it does now. as in the offer never happened was just announced and changed prior.

[untold mica]

Yes, the article about the bundle is just my imagination. Thanks.

🤣

[long sparrow]

no, the announcement happened. but it was changed BEFORE you could buy the game.

you couldn't buy that offer

the first time you could buy ASA was when it released on steam. there wasn't a pre-order. that offer or any other.

[mint swan]

Is ark 2 different than asa?

[blissful perch]

yes. Entirely separate games

[untold ingot]

Without Ai you wouldn't have believed something a dozen people gave you sources about that it never actually happened. Wtf. Read that again dude.

You should believe Ai less than you do Wikipedia

[untold mica]

->Xbox Series S/X and PC players will only be able to get it via an ultimate-value bundle known as the ARK Respawned Bundle. This bundle includes ownership of both ARK: Survival Ascended AND ARK 2 and will be priced at $49.99.<-

I believed that and didn't realize it had been changed. My mistake was believing something mentioned in the Community Crunch. It won't happen again.

[untold ingot]

It was mentioned. For a week before it was rescinded. There's news articles out the wazoo talking about it

[serene onyx]

0/10 ragebait

[worldly garden]

The issue here was that you read something, then at least 7 months later you blindly bought it without reading the Xbox store page or checking if anything had changed.

[mystic wharf]

Lol

[solemn trout]

Ok

[untold mica]

Same for me, i wasnt blind. I was a beliver. In Ark and in words.

[worldly garden]

Yes, but you lacked the ability to pay attention to the Xbox store page and what it said you were buying. That's where the downfall was. Lessons learned I guess.

[tiny glade]

Ark 2 is a myth

[mystic wharf]

LOL

@worldly garden a lot of peoples thinks ark 2 is a myth by the looks of things

[worldly garden]

most people in here that say Ark 2 is a myth I don't think are being serious. It's an ongoing joke.

[tiny glade]

Ark 2 is definitely a myth

NO 🧢

[mystic wharf]

You are serious or joking?

[mystic wharf]

But some looks serious though

Ive spoke to a lot of peoples who said that and they werent joking so i dont understand anymore

[untold mica]

I just finished a run in ASA with all the Ark bosses in single-player. Immediately after the Extinction Alpha Titan fight, my character was uploaded, but all my progress, including the survivor who had just completed all the fights for max level, was deleted... all that work for nothing.

[oblique horizon]

people can have their opinions but ark 2 is still in development at this time

[mystic wharf]

How many peoples work on it at this time ?

I ask that because the développement is very long would have been finished by now

[oblique horizon]

very few, main priority currently is ark survival ascended

[untold mica]

I'm not waiting for Ark 2 anymore. The single-player mode in ASA is still being deleted by the game itself. What a joke.

[worldly garden]

The last thing that was said in an interview was that there was a couple until they move more from ASA, which I doubt will happen yet with Gen 1 & 2 still to come.

[mystic wharf]

Sad i waited for ark 2 since it was announced for the first time

I really want something new

[worldly garden]

Too early to determine whether the ai and combat, or anything really will be "better" 😂

[mystic wharf]

Please add a native orbitale caméra in ark ascended for the third person view , a lot of peoples use the half done orbitale camera because the standard camera in ark is so rigid and the orbital caméra there is in asa its not a native one, so it will make easier gameplay to add a full native one , pvp is unplayable with that type of caméra because you can't see behind you while running away to try to Dodge or escape the players you can't even attack or move normally in that half done orbitale caméra the game already has so please add an option for the camera to be able to have a native orbitale where you can attack in it , ride dinos etc.... , a lot of players get very frustated that they cant see what's behind them to Escape danger , so please add that in asa the camera for now is so rigid and limited that's why lot use the orbital caméra, so just add a full native one so there wont bé that problem anymore and its also more immersive you can check your dinos from the front the détails , your character face , hair style, and seeing a huge rex chasing me while running away is so immersive it adds a scary feel too the game , also being able to look at my dino front side while walking is so cool the standard asa rigid caméra take away all that Immersion away and make the gameplay harder @cunning talon @vale pike @drowsy ibex

[mystic wharf]

Btw I guess you are not against ark 2 , so i have to ask you what makes you want to play ark 2 instead of staying in ark ascended ? @worldly garden

[worldly garden]

Because Ark 2 will be an entirely new experience.

[modern gyro]

That seems fair

[tiny glade]

Proof

[serene onyx]

Read the crunched bud

[spark isle]

.

[untold ingot]

Good things take a long time to make. Plus main attention is on Asa for lost colony rn

[tiny glade]

Bros Ark 2 is a myth

[severe light]

Is ark 2 real?

[dire valley]

.

[mystic wharf]

A lot of peoples want ark 2 to bé a myth personally im interested about ark 2

[grave maple]

It’s finna be released 2090 ✌️🥀

Oh brother

[mystic wharf]

5 yes and 3 no , you are jokes dudes

You just want to be in denial im pretty sure
Im more into being immersed and farming than just boring farming and thats it

[grave maple]

It’s a joke twin it’s not that serious

[mystic wharf]

@tiny glade is not joking

@worldly garden do you think lost colony new map made from 0 gonna have the same graphics as the remastered ones or better ?idk if you are a développer or not but if you are do you know or have opinions?

[untold mica]

I also see Ark 2 coming, but it will be one of the hardest games, since you can't save for the first three years. New updates will cause more and more crashes, and the first DLC will be Mickey Mouse and the Teletubbies.

Juat kidding a bit...

[woven cliff]

Honestly a Mickey mouse club house base would be dope. You "pull the lever krunk" and you have another room turning from the floor?

[mystic wharf]

Ark 2 more immersive than asa

[subtle wing]

I have faith that ark 2 well come eventually even if I'm on my deathbed to see it

[mystic wharf]

If somebody ask you to chose between asa and ark 2 and you can only play one which one you gonna chose ? @untold mica

[untold mica]

Neither of them. I was surprised that ASE lasted so long. It was also known for having bugs that could set players back several days, weeks, or months, as well as server outages and memory problems.

[half gulch]

Hey guys, does anyone know why my Ark always stays one version ahead? I don't know if it's a bug, it only happens when I exit the game and enter again.

[tiny glade]

Ark 2 is a myth

[mystic wharf]

LOL dude really wants ark 2 to be a myth

i heard one time that ark 2 graphics are film Level is it only for cinematics or actual GamePlay ?And are they really film Level ? Because asa doesn't look like film Level and its new so i wonder how you will do a film Level game since you can't even do it with ark ascended i would really like that btw that's why im asking and lastly did you added that kind of graphics that ark 2 has into that lost colony map since its a map made from 0? @cunning talon

[serene onyx]

Where did you hear this from?

[mystic wharf]

They spoke about it couple years Ago

Only one though

[mystic wharf]

That's why ark 2 looks so good in term of visuals its because they want the game to have film Level graphics

[mystic wharf]

But i wonder how its possible because asa doesn't even look like film Level and its the same développers

[sinful scarab]

Guys Im 25 will I make it to the release of ARK2

[mystic wharf]

I want ark 2 to be film Level as they said

Like really how its going to look like ?

I never seen a film Level quality game

So im confused how they gonna do it since asa doesn't even look like a film

Any of you knows ?
@oblique horizon
@split dove
@untold ingot

[untold ingot]

What even is your question? If you run Asa on epic with everything turned up on 4k in a computer that can handle it, it's very close to film quality due to ue5, which some people actually use to make films. If Asa doesn't look film quality, it's because you aren't using the right settings, or your standards of film quality are higher than the quality actually is.

If you are thinking the animations/etc will be on par with a 500 million dollar movie, they won't be. Because this is a game. Not a movie

The difference is that a film can spend months rendering a single scene, a game has to do it on subpar equipment at 60fps. So keep your expectations realistic

[mystic wharf]

film quality and games are very différent the dinos from movies has a lot of détails compared to games ,so film quality graphics in games just means a cinematic look or the exact same graphics as you see in movies ? Because even in 4k it doesn't look exactly like the level of films

Also i dont think film Level graphics is the right term for that

[blissful perch]

Usually this refers to an art style

Meaning there may be a bit more focus on certain qualities that err from “perfect realism” in favor of a more cinematic appearance

Because (as Raq said) you’ll likely never get a game like Ark to have movie level animation quality because there’s way too much going on

[untold ingot]

Nanite allows for some really high quality models, and lumen allows for high quality light. That's probably what he was referring to when he said that. The actual underlying engine rather than making thinks look like a movie

[tiny glade]

Dudes really worried about me
Ark 2 is most definitely a MYTH

[tulip acorn]

Guarantee its gonna be as crashing and laggy as ark survival ascended still is

[violet matrix]

Bro Ascended can handle me rushing in the valguero broodmother fight with 40 megaraptors, a Zeppelin, a giga, a wyvern, and a karkinos, but it cant handle me opening my inventory

They better do some major changes in ark 2

[serene onyx]

Probably, hope not though

[mystic wharf]

So do you think ark 2 gonna look better than ark ascended or the same graphics in terms of material quality and stuff ?

[untold ingot]

It's going to be on ue5 with the same devs. So ywah it'll look the same. But the models and assets might be different

[mystic wharf]

Are you sure quality of the graphics gonna be the same Just with différent models and gameplay ? Maybe ark 2 graphics is beyond asa graphics

[hearty osprey]

possible, but just not that likely

[mystic wharf]

Likely

No way ark 2 will just look like asa in terms of graphical quality and not superior to it

[tiny glade]

Ark 2 is a myth

[serene onyx]

Bro just might be obsessed with Ark 2

[strong crystal]

Look up “Until Dawn” and the creators of it

[mystic wharf]

I would like ark 2 to look like until dawn but ark ascended doesn't seem to have this level of graphics so idk if ark 2 will but at the same Time it would be strange that asa has the same quality graphics as ark 2

[mystic wharf]

Lol you obsessed

[bronze rain]

When is it releasing? Should i buy ASA or wait for ark 2?

[serene onyx]

I recommend playing Asa, for me at least it runs decently well

[hearty osprey]

Ark 2 ain't releasing till ASA is finished, get ASA

[untold ingot]

Its going to be made by the same people, in the same rushed schedule, on the same engine. What do you think.

[untold ingot]

Its the same engine. There is some stuff you can do on ue5 to make it look better, but those dont run on most peoples hardware. So itll look basically the same.

Which is fine. ASA has really good graphics already.

[hearty osprey]

honestly the level of the graphics is in a great spot with ASA, don't see the need for much of a change

[mystic wharf]

Maybe but the dinos will look better in ark 2

[blissful perch]

IMO it is borderline irrelevant as a discussion item for Ark 2

Ark 2 doesn’t need graphics, it needs compelling changes to gameplay while retaining functional performance

[mystic wharf]

We were talking about one développer speaking about ark 2 being film level that's why we spoke about graphics and why do you want changes to gameplay you dont like the asa one ?

[mystic wharf]

I think lost colony will reflect more of ark 2 graphics because the others are old maps reworked a bit

[blissful perch]

I don’t. Ark 1’s gameplay was fine in 2015, but it’s been 10 years and much of the gameplay is painfully outdated

[mystic wharf]

So what kind of gameplay do you like and want see ? What type ?

[blissful perch]

Mostly what’s talked about in the pins. Better taming systems and tame management, far less reliance on breeding and endless stat grinding, actual events out in the world that make exploring worthwhile…

[mystic wharf]

Tbh i want everything ark ascended has but with better immersion dinos actually having animations, more harder dinos and for the combat im fine with asa combat but it dépends how fun the ark 2 combat will be also i hope they gonna make a new caméra for ascended and ark 2 for the third person because the asa one is a joke so rigid and unplayable in pvp

[untold ingot]

To clarify. The graphics are the same between asa island and lost colony. They are on the same engine, same systems, same hardware, etc. The visuals might look different due to different models/textures/lighting. But the graphics will probbably be the same

[untold ingot]

Ark 2 dinos will probably look more like recent asa dinos, such as the garuga mods for example since they hired him.

[tall storm]

How many more years for ark 2😭

[serene onyx]

10

[lethal juniper]

30 millon years

[mystic wharf]

I heard a développer saying the map lost colony gonna be very différent than the remastered maps

So i think he meant the graphics will look very différent right ? @cunning talon

[mystic wharf]

You got bored of ark ascended ?

[untold ingot]

... They aren't going to switch engines. I feel like you aren't hearing me lol.

[mystic wharf]

Ye but a développer said the map lost colony will look very différent from the old maps

[untold ingot]

Yes. But the graphics will bethe same.

[mystic wharf]

(Very différent) means that the graphics would be a whole lot better

[untold ingot]

No it doesn't.

[mystic wharf]

Then what it means ? I dont think he meant that the mechanics or the gameplay will be différent and better , pretty sure its only for graphics

[untold ingot]

Design, visuals etc. You do understand the difference between art style and graphics right?

[mystic wharf]

Ye i meant différent visual and design stuff not graphics sometimes i just put graphics and visuals in the same box just to simplify things but ye i was mostly talking about différent visuals and design

[untold ingot]

Well, it is going to be different. It's not scifi oriented like Genesis or ext, and it's not wilderness with ruins like th rest of the maps. So ya, the actual look an feel of it will be massively different, but th graphics will be the same

[mystic wharf]

Ye but they shouldnt call ark 2 film level they just have to say another word because even in 4k ark ascended models doesn't look like film level i can show picture differences @untold ingot

[tall storm]

That fast!? They might be rushing it a little

[balmy halo]

When is ark 2 finally coming

Will it look like real life or why does it need so long

Or does it give you superpowers

[blissful perch]

I kinda think they did mean mechanics and gameplay. The skill tree was intended for lost colony, and some of it will only be available once it comes out

[mystic wharf]

Oh i also forgot one thing, one time i heard that the développers of ark 2 were not exactly the same as asa @untold ingot i completely forgot About that so ark 2 will look better than asa im pretty sure

Not the same

And these développers are so good at making film quality graphics in games thé only way the graphics will be the same is that if these new développers made asa as well so idk if they worked on asa too or not probably not because i heard one time that they only worked on vehicles dlcs

[mystic wharf]

Hm idk will see

[untold ingot]

You didnt hear that from an official source. The devs are still wc, and they aren't bringing in a new team. The Asa crew is going to move to ark2

[untold ingot]

Ue5 done right is film quality

[mystic wharf]

They actually recruited some new peoples to make ark 2 , i saw an interview of the new guy that came to work on ark 2 and it was the one that said the ark 2 graphics are film level

[untold ingot]

The vast majority of Ark2 is going to be done by the same team as Asa. That's part of the reason the even did asa

[worldly garden]

Also the reason there's not much development done on Ark 2 yet.

[tribal chasm]

Does the character restore in Ark work properly now? People getting back characters over level 105?
If so, that is very promising for Ark 2

[hearty osprey]

What does that have to do with ark2

[serene onyx]

What does this even mean

[tribal chasm]

It was kind of swept under the rug for 10 years, so to finally somewhat address the issue is a good gesture. I was concerned the issue would carry over into Ark 2 (which it might, but at least they are offering a good resolution now)

[unique veldt]

qnyone selling island bosses

[serene onyx]

Not the place to ask.

[verbal atlas]

is ark 2 still a thing

[blissful perch]

Yes

[fallow raft]

Bruh how dare this even be a section. We all know Ark 2 aint happening

[serene onyx]

it will dont you worry

[fallow raft]

Ill believe it when I see it

[serene onyx]

okay!

[worldly garden]

The reason ASA won't morph into Ark 2 is because Ark 2 is intended to be very different from ASE/ASA, one of the reasons ASA exists.

[hearty agate]

Hahaha no worries, the player count dropped so low. No one is waiting for ark 2 anymore. It takes too long

[worldly garden]

If that's the best you can come up with sure. 😂

[fresh wagon]

Our baby is going to be born soon, maybe when she’s older she let us know what it was like😂

[grizzled forge]

They are in denial about all this. Just let time pass by and let them realize when it’s too late that no one wants a washed up PvE Dino game when initially what brought people to ARK was the PvP aspect of the game. They keep bringing bots into this discord to stray away from the fact that this game is dying fast. It’s sad to see really.

[untold ingot]

More than 70% of consistent ark players are pve. So yeah a pve Ark2 probably still would get people to play. Pvp isn't a vital component of its success, nor is it even the driver of it.

[hearty osprey]

as always PVP player overestimating the importance their game mode has on the success of the game

[untold mica]

ASA is successful despite a lack of players. Ark 2 will come, and even if it's as buggy as ASE and ASA combined, it will undoubtedly be successful. It just needs to be playable in creative mode, but from what I've gathered, the developers want to hide behind an oh-so-difficult game again and blame all the problems on it, instead of finally taking more responsibility and enabling smooth gameplay.

[void glade]

Make it like ase cuz the function on asa is very bad and the graphics Just good

[serene onyx]

Wdym by that?

[void glade]

Ase pvp more fun then asa

[serene onyx]

what does that gave to do with ark 2?

[mystic wharf]

no the ark 2 game is made by wildcard and another team and ark ascended was only made by wildcard so the graphics wont look the same as i said

And they said that ark ascended was not touched by the other team who made ark 2

[worldly garden]

Jeremy Stieglitz has said a very small portion of their team continues to refine the mechanics of Ark 2, but it will take roughly 18 months of hardcore team focus to turn it into an early access game, once they put the vast majority of their team back on it.

[mystic wharf]

So at what/which stage of développement you thing they are right now ?

[worldly garden]

Very early stage, but there's little point on speculating about such a thing. It's still at least 2 years away at the earliest.

[mystic wharf]

Lol wdym by they are in denial ?

Denial of what?

The bots are the ones that want to stay in asa

Forever

[mystic wharf]

Yes maybe but asa doesn't look like film quality

The only map that is close to that is the Island map

But Even with the Island i dont see film quality graphics , the characters, and some textures in the foliage looks bad not good enough for me to say (wow it has film graphics that's Amazing) let alone dinos ,for example the rex looks good but not film quality just good , so idk what you mean by asa is film quality

[nocturne heart]

Doesnt need to be "film quality" hell if it was I wouldn't play it at all

[mystic wharf]

We are talking about a développer saying ark 2 is film quality, and honestly i would play it , idk why you wouldnt want to play a game with Amazing graphics ? That makes no sense

@untold ingot that's very contradictory because you say ark ascended is the same développers that work on ark 2, ok but a développer of ark 2 said ark 2 is film level therefore logically asa should also be film level but it isnt so there is a lot of contradiction going on here

[worldly garden]

Where are you getting this supposed developer saying film level anyway?

[mystic wharf]

On a Live stream they made couple years Ago

Its that guy who made the ark 2 trailer

Back in 2020

[worldly garden]

I don't recall any live streams talking about Ark 2 last couple of years, i'm not even sure they talked about it in any recent Extra Life streams either.

[mystic wharf]

The guy name is Alex Laurent i will show you a pic if i can

[worldly garden]

So they said film level 4 years ago during Extra Life. But it's still going to be the same team that's working on ASA.

[mystic wharf]

Ok So does it mean they couldn't make a film quality game or ? Because asa dont look film quality enough thought

[worldly garden]

They were brand new at developing in UE5 for ASA, not sure why anyone would expect such greatness. They are using the time developing ASA to learn the skills for ARK 2.

and at the end of the day whether something is "film level" will be down to individual opinion.

[mystic wharf]

Ok what about your opinion, do you think ark 2 will look exactly like asa or better in terms of graphics and visual fidelity ?

[worldly garden]

Gameplay wise probably look the same as ASA. Cutscene wise (or any story elements) probably top-notch.

[dull geode]

That’s a interesting take

[dull geode]

But without PvP since ark 2 is going to go away from that direction right ?

[worldly garden]

No, PvP isn't going anywhere

[dull geode]

But it seems they have no intentions of implementing it

[worldly garden]

I wish people stopped dreaming up these claims.

[dull geode]

They seem to neglect that side of the community as it is now

They won’t fix the same issue we have complained about for the last year

Even with map design

@worldly garden then if they are implementing it will it look like ASA pvp ?

[worldly garden]

That's a question for the devs who are working on it. 🤷🏻

[untold ingot]

The picture you sent is from a rendering. Obviously it looks better than in game. Your computer (even if it has a 5090) can't output rendering quality at 60fps.

[mystic wharf]

For me a film level game is like the rendering and the trailers of ark 2 not asa gameplay graphics you can't call asa film level

[dull geode]

From your understanding and what you have seen and can speak on what do you think it will look like ?

[untold ingot]

... Your computer can't run that quality. I dont get what part of this you don't understand. Renderings take a lot of prep and design to make. Your pc can't do that at 60fps.

[dull geode]

Leave it friend he does not understand

[mystic wharf]

So you are saying rendering cinematics is not possible in games with ue5?i mean like the gameplay ?

[untold ingot]

No. Rendering cinematics on real-time with the quality of the trailers on consumer hardware at 60fps is not possible. Rendering cinematics at film quality in general is totally achievable. The cinematics of trailers and cutscenes could be phenomenal, but you won't see that at playtime

[mystic wharf]

Then why you said that ?

[untold ingot]

Because it is?

Like it only takes a little bit of googling to learn the basics of this.

[mystic wharf]

So Ue5 is film quality but you said games can't render cinematic stuff and rendering in Real Time ? Its contradictory

[untold ingot]

So instead of actually doing research yourself and finding the answers you are trying to argue something you don't seem to understand. Got it

[mystic wharf]

How i do not understand ?

[untold ingot]

Ue5 done right is film quality cinematics. But not in real time on your computer... Nothing I said is contradictory

[fallow lion]

why even arguing on game we dont even have a single new info for like 3 years

[mystic wharf]

Oh you meant ue5 is film quality graphics but only when we talk about cutscenes ? I was only speaking about gameplay though

[fallow lion]

and why it have to be film quality

it have to be playable first

[untold ingot]

There has been info this year. Namely tht it's mostly paused

[fallow lion]

you mean Raas post on X

[untold ingot]

Probably? I didnt see his post

[fallow lion]

i will be honest i dont trust Jeremy as all

i rather wait for something official

[mystic wharf]

Because we were talking about a développer that brought that up about ark 2

[fallow lion]

why you even trust something not official posting

[untold ingot]

If you have a 4090 or 5090 it will probably be verging on that. But otherwise it'll look very similar to asa. (Which if you actually do long renderings on you can get film quality trailers...)

[untold ingot]

Trust very loosely

[mystic wharf]

Because its from a developer that worked on ark 2 and its models etc ...

[fallow lion]

just wait for them announced smth who know the future may be they can cancel the game or smth

[worldly garden]

I don't believe there's been much detail provided so far.

[untold ingot]

I've always said offhand remarks by a higher up are not really reliable. But I would trust the part when he said it's still on the works slightly

[fallow lion]

still remember he said about asa will be free for ase players or smth way back then

it was funny hahaha

[worldly garden]

Jeremy's only mistake there was speaking of it too early.

[untold ingot]

You have to understand that when a dev makes a model for a Dino it very well can be detailed enough to put into a movie, but it won't render like that on your game.

[fallow lion]

yeah

one of many reasons i dont trust thing that not announced official

[mystic wharf]

He was probably talking about cutscenes then not actual GamePlay

[untold ingot]

The model itself might be that quality. Seriously you should do some googling on how this works. 15 minutes of reading could answer all your questions 🤣

[mystic wharf]

Ye i got what you said

I was just saying gameplay will make that movie quality model less beautiful in Real Time

[untold ingot]

That's how the engine works... Because othrwse you would be playing at 1 fpm.

That's how game engines have always worked

[mystic wharf]

You just came in this chat you dont even know what we are talking about and you Open your mouth dont Say that only to make Friends it make you look strange and also How can he know that ? He already told you he is not a dev what you dont understand ? @dull geode

[mystic wharf]

So for you ark 2 will have same graphics as asa ? Like 100 percent same ?

[untold ingot]

... That's not what I said

[mystic wharf]

So what's your vision ?

Like your opinion

About what will be the différences

Between the 2

[untold ingot]

... Th difference between 2-4 years of ue5 experience?

[mystic wharf]

Ok are you more interested about asa or ark 2?

[untold ingot]

Still plenty forme to do in Asa that I'm not waitng too fervently for ark2

[tiny glade]

Ark 2 is a myth

[scenic thicket]

are they even gonna make it anymore i mean it feels like we are getting played

[serene onyx]

They are, but right now they are focusing on finishing Asa, don’t expect it for a while

[serene onyx]

Obsessed much

[tropic oak]

I made a video about this game over 4 years ago and it got 4 million views and I said it would be out soon silly me

[serene onyx]

Nah the earliest was said to be 2027

[night crane]

Hilo

[mystic wharf]

I Always see this bot spamming ark 2 is a myth its funny to watch

I hope they Will add a native orbitale caméra for third person in asa soon i made a suggestion about it i really hâte the standard rigid camera and i seen a lot of peoples using the orbital caméra and hating the standard one too, so would be cool to add a full one

[mystic wharf]

Houlo

[night crane]

@mystic wharf Good evening

[edgy chasm]

Pls speed i need this, My mom is kinda homeless

Everyone is sigma

[tiny glade]

I’m not a bot
But Ark 2 is a myth lmao

[dim sable]

Ark 2 is just a fantasy they got us to believe so they could keep their hooks in us. It will never be released.

[mint swan]

I'm from the year 2030 and I can confirm Ark 2 came out last week my time.

10 years is worth the wait, you won't be disappointed.

[heady glen]

Yea it will be realeasd in 2030 and it will be in alpha early acces comepletly unplayeble

[spring rapids]

With ue5 when everyone ready will use ue14.
Year later will sell remaster 2 😂

[mystic wharf]

Its just you who dont want to believe in ark 2 just because you like asa too much but ark 2 is real

[dim sable]

@mystic wharf oh believe me I want it to come out Ive been waiting since they showed us the advertisement for it and then nothing wasn’t that like 2 years ago now?

[mint swan]

December 10, 2020 was the first anouncement for Ark 2.

[dim sable]

So almost five years 😳😞

[fallow lion]

10 more years and it will come

[serene onyx]

20 you mean

[fallow lion]

30th anniversary could be

but i think 20 asa will dried af

and they will bring ark 2 out

[modest wyvern]

boys, boys.. remember this: GTA 6 is in developement for decade, almost 9 years, got it? Its probably cause they dont want crashes etc. BUT! dont worry, we play ark = ARK developers will release ARK II even if it ran on 2´-8 fps, map was half empty and there wasn single thing working 😄

so we are not gonna wait 10 years

its gonna be more like either 3 or 30 XD

[opaque sky]

.

[grand blade]

Hey xbox s good for ark ascended ?

[mystic wharf]

Pretty sure ark 2 is or will be funnier than ark ascended

Taht rigid caméra throws me off i almost Always use the orbital cam in third person for ark ascended tahts the only thing i hâte i hope you implemented that in lostcolony @cunning talon

[dim sable]

@mystic wharf yeah I’m not real impressed with ascended. Just seems like they just had us pay for the same stuff we already paid for. I liked the idea of the mods until they started making pay for some.
I think they’re just trying to get as much money as they can on Ark before ARK2 finally makes it out some day 🤣

[untold ingot]

Not really

[burnt crystal]

How you think developers etc get paid for their input?

[dim sable]

@burnt crystal makes it feel like a pay to win.

[burnt crystal]

It is bro 😆😆

[untold ingot]

Let's be real, nearly all games these days are pay to win

[heady glen]

and in ark 2 transfer bundel if you want to transfer to another server no worries only 19.99

[untold ingot]

Ark hasn't gone quite that far lmao

Really tho the only bad dlc in Asa are fantastic tames. We could have done without thst. As far as btt it's actually less op than dlcs back in ase were by comparison. Paying for mods does kinda suck too, but wc actually has the best pay ratio for modders in literally the entire gaming industry. 50% of the money goes to the mod dev. Loads of other companies doing similar things only give like 15%.

That's not great when you can't afford cool mods, but it does give stable income to a lot of talented modders that were doing this for free in Ase.

[tribal chasm]

I hope Ark 2 is kinda challenging, I was disappointed at ASA's overly rapid + spoon fed progression

Take the launch of Ragnarok, people would almost instantly tame high level Pyromanes, which then could fight basically everything on the map + never run out of stamina and...
it is not Survival at all 😒

[hearty osprey]

Most people over the years have wine about the game being to difficult

[blissful perch]

The game is tedious, not difficult

[hearty osprey]

The only difficult there wasz was in us being bobs

Wish I could go back to BOB

[tribal chasm]

some tedium is required to make a balanced game, doesn't have to be as extreme as 2015 but...still feeling like you aren't always winning is generally what Survival games are about

[warped vector]

not checkers or chess 😄

[blissful perch]

Making ark 2 more “Bob-like” might be a huge win tbh

[blissful perch]

Idk about “balanced”, but I’d argue grind and tedium are nowhere near the same if the grind is tasteful and entertaining. Ark’s grinds are, almost entirely, tedious and repetitive tasks with very little engagement

[untold ingot]

You can play those if you want. Good luck with that lol

[warped vector]

best strategy game of the ages lol

[untold ingot]

Hmm, most popular maybe. Not the best tho.

It's honestly way too simple to really care about. It's one of those games that's waaaay to easy to cheat on.

[mystic wharf]

Someone knows if the devs gonna re use some ark ascended assets for ark 2 or the assets of ark 2 will be completely new from 0? If yes how do you know if not then thanks for the answer

[ornate compass]

i heard ark 2 might be similar to dark souls

[fallow lion]

only combat

the rest are the same i believe

[vital jetty]

Take "souls-like combat" with a grain of salt. every video game states that anymore when in reality they aren't.

[blissful perch]

It’s annoying because I don’t remember Darksouls patenting “blocking, dodging, and parrying”

[winged dome]

Ocarina of Time had 'Souls-like' combat

[untold ingot]

If by assets you mean code/textures/models, it's a yes for code probably for textures, and maybe for models.

[mystic wharf]

I meant for example rocks, trees, dino models etc...

[vital jetty]

It's unfortunately become the new catchphrase, much like "open world" used to be

[mystic wharf]

The code impossible

[untold ingot]

All code everywhere is reused lol

[shadow yew]

Helelelelelelelelelle

[finite locust]

Did they at least use new code new software for ark 2

[mystic wharf]

How ? Then ark 2 gonna be bad like ark 1 then?

Lol sometimes some peoples comment are just weird and comical makes me laugh a bit

What did she did dude ?

[untold ingot]

In general ark 1 code isn't bad.

[vague rune]

Hi

[barren obsidian]

is ark 2 coming in 2026 ?

[oblique horizon]

no

[barren obsidian]

👍

[twilit rapids]

hopefully 2030

[oblique horizon]

i wouldn’t expect it until 2028 at the earliest personally

[barren obsidian]

we can always wait

[tiny glade]

Ark 2 is a myth

[vapid hearth]

One of those big foot things is it real is it a government conspiracy

[serene onyx]

youre back nice

[tiny glade]

I sometimes forget on the weekends

[peak zephyr]

What do we bet ark 2 trailer or halflife 3 trailer at the game awards (I'm schizo)

[hearty osprey]

bet with yourself

if u lose u go to therapy

[high cave]

Hiya

[mystic wharf]

What is bad then ? Nothing ? @untold ingot

[mystic wharf]

Lol this guy is your nightmare

[sterile grail]

what would ark2 looks like?

[untold ingot]

I want you to try to write something like ark and have it work

It's not perfect. But it's not bad.

[mystic wharf]

But ark looks so simple though

There is not even combat mechanics

The animations are very simple

That doesn't seem to bé a complicated game to make

[untold ingot]

Then build one to match it.

Good luck 🤣

The complexity of ark isn't its combat or animations. It's the sheer scale of it.

[naive kraken]

game has been around for almost 15 years.. the complexity is inevitable.. I mean look at palworld and the differences in the time spent on that game and it's complexity

Rim world was developed by one person and the complexity of that game is far larger than the complexity of ohh this dinosaur does this attack and ability and this map sapwns this boss, The complexity in ark is more or less emergent from the players. Give someone a tool and they will figure out how to make it work for them, Ark 2 doesn't exist, and if it does it currently is in Survival ascended

[worldly garden]

https://tenor.com/view/cheers-dominic-toretto-vin-diesel-fast-x-cracking-open-a-cold-one-gif-118212166747241079

[untold ingot]

Rim world is a single player game yes? Only sections of the map are active at a time. How many npcs is that? A hundred? 200? With that kind of freedom you can use better animations and better Ai. Pal world is a better comparison, but is map size is 16 km Sq and total playercount for servers is 32. The smallest ark maps are 40km Sq, with the largest getting close to 200. The number of unique dinos and scale (up to 30000 at a time). So when I say complexity I mean the challenge of making that actually work. Anyone with a few years of practice and experience can make animations look good, or models. It takes much more effort to make it look passable on the scale that ark does it. Very few games even come close to it tbh.

Not detracting from the effort of other game devs, but you have to understand that the problems a dev of rimworld deals with are completely different than the ones that ark deals with. Just like knowing Javascript and html doesn't make you a full stack aws dev.

Doing things at scale is much more complex, even if the result might look worse it actually takes way more effort in engineering and design.

[naive kraken]

Just because there isn't much reference doesn't mean they are doing it great, and you don't need to know every language they are working with to understand game development and to critique it,

Why have they fixed a few issues such as meshing and then reintroduced it on other maps? Why have they fixed the issue of mesh biting on some dinos yet it still exists with Meks?

Yeah I guess if you pin point out single things they do good such as rendering many actors which I referenced pal world does great, Rust does Great, Soul Mask does Great? if something that many other games are able to accomplish and do great it doesn't mean wildcard is standing out in performance, Wild card handles this with hibernating and "stasising" creatures that are not in render, Just because there is theoretically thousands of dinos on map it doesn't mean they are all in the active play view or Render.

What you are talking about is a Simple LOD system when something is farther away lower its quality, this also doesn't work well you can tell by walking up to certain creatures and they pop in and out their low quality to high quality versions within only a few feet it is a very noticeable issue that detracts from immersion and quality.

There are almost countless "bugs" that have become mechanics in ark, Jank is fine for an indie dev. I don't think you can consider wildcard to be an indie dev anymore..

Also I don't think most people would be able to render 30,000 creatures at one time thats definitely not true and would love to see your FPS while doing so, Using Der Dino Finder it keeps track of how many creatures are spawned on a map. Not all being in render so the ones that are 1 to 2 world cells away which is render distance if you had 30,000 creatures in render your game would either crash or preform at a level unplayable

Are you saying they have fixed this with ARK 2? I have set to see proof of that.

Would love to see proof of multiple players rendering 30k dinos. doesnt exist

[naive kraken]

I mentioned rim world due to it's complexity that was created by one developer, Alot of what you are talking about in ARK can only be achieved in a Single Player Game save.

Toss out 300 dinos in your base and I bet you can't get over 60 fps, even with the DLSS that Nvidia engineers implemented for them.

Let's not mention the archaic Anti cheat.

Or the fact they lean heavily on Lumens and Nanite which produces a very blurry and fluttering Mess.

While other games have achieved similar results without using these tools.

I don't understand why shill for a company who has lied many many times about release dates yet to just blame it on another company.

I dont know a single other company that has crossplay enable that blames microsoft for their delays? if you apply for the update to get the cert on xbox only just a few days earlier that issue is out of the window..

ARK 2 was supposed to be released by now. Yet the only information we get about it are cutesy and enjoyable cutscenes if you think ark 2 will look and play like the cutscenses you just haven't been playing video games enough..

ARK 2 is simply as GP said it's about family..

Wildcard prefers to make money off those who blindly shill their game and buy their mods and the premium mods of others and to monetize simply TLCs even if for charity then to just fix the game.

Their strategy isnt about apprecating those who play the multiplayer side of the game unless I am mistaken and would love to see an argument that proves other wise.

I bet it's been years since a wild card dev has stepped foot into an official server let alone played it for a fraction of the time their "Active" Player base does.

The Only Family ARK 2 is Providing is Vin Diesel the rest of us are just consumers and a number they hope to once get back to.

As frodo once said :
There is no real going back. Though I may come to the Shire, it will not seem the same; for I shall not be the same. I am wounded with knife, sting, and tooth, and a long burden. Where shall I find rest?

Wish you the best bud maybe in 2030 you will prove me wrong

[winged dome]

The real 'Ark 2' is the family we made along the way. The hopeful dreamers, the excited read throughs of weekly Crunches for a chance at some new info or tease, the seemingly endless discussions of 'what ifs' or 'maybe whens'

That, and Saladmander, who has done nothing wrong in their entire plant-lizard life

[untold ingot]

People don't. The server keeps track of it. What you listed were client issues. Which is hardly the major issues ark has. Arks biggest problems are server issues coming from scale that other games don't have. Also, language they are using? That's really irrelevant to the problem. You run into these problems of scale regardless of language, engine, architecture. It's an inherent issue. And no, it's not LOD

The problems you are noting are clientside again mostly. Which is a problem, they aren't amazing with that. But a lot of the major issues, especially on official are from scale. Those are harder to solve, and they do pretty well with it.

[naive kraken]

So meshing is a client side issue? anti cheat is a client side issue? I was stating language is irrelevant because yes the issues would persist regardless of language, but language you program in can determine a different solution to any of the above problems. your response is quite generic and you only talk about scale, I would like to hear how ARK 2 solves these things?

LOD is what you were describing and a server is just a client that is store majority of the information and replicates to the clients that need it when they need it, unless I am mistaken and a lot of that is carried by nitrado, a higher quality server, provides a higher quality connection.

Maybe I don't understand the feat that you are trying to portray here, like I said these large quantities of creatures are not all in render like you are portraying them as being, so how is this different than any of those other games that I listed?

Like I said if it's not LOD that is handling this and it's not hibernating, you must have some kind of insight that I would like to know and maybe it would make me excited for the scam that is ARK 2.

Seems like you dodge most of the issues I pointed out to respond with almost a copy and paste of what your original take was.

if the issues happens on client side where the player is playing why does that make it any better? wouldn't this be poor optimization? my dms are open if you have any relevant info that would like to share feel free to but as I stand saying the do something great at scale without any kind of backing it up while saying their biggest issues are server issues which is also what I am stating I don't get the point you are trying prove.

I also stated that you don't need to know how to code to critique a game or it's developers, it's a common point of authority stance, when the consumer spends more time than the devs obviously do on these shoddy servers.

Can only be hopefully they will want to play ARK 2.. doesnt seem like they play now.

[untold ingot]

The language they program in is c++ because that is what ue5 is built on. Thats known, very well. Meshing is an unsolved problem on any modern game (especially with ue5). There are ways to mitigate it, but not entirely remove it. WC does not develop the anticheat. Like every company except billion dollar extortionist games like cod, they use third party anticheats. WC uses nitrado to host, but thats like using AWS. You still have to do the hard stuff yourself. They can't use higher quality servers, because those are stupidly expensive. My point was (even with pseudo hibernation, because ark does not actually do complete hibernation on unrendered locations outside of sp) the amount of processing and scale that an official server does outscales literally every other game except some few massive games, and minecraft servers (obviously). Its not LOD, because LOD is how your client processes things, and really is mostly irrelevant to the server, although there are some instances it matters. This isnt really insight. Its just years working in developing scaling technologies. I can recognize and appretiate WCs approach at handling the issues, and they dont do a bad job at it. They are obviously not the best in the world, but the best in the world don't work on video games. Either way, their optimizations are actually good. On a decent system asa with proper settings outperforms ase on the client. Except for official (somewhat), because servers in asa have to work much harder. Im not making a point that ark2 will be god tier, or the best game ever made, because that would be a stupid statement to make. What I am saying is WC are not bad at their jobs, and they have tackled a very very ambitious project that is literally at the fringe of what consumer hardware can reliably run. Most games don't even attempt that.

[naive kraken]

we are on different wave lengths wish you the best. Hopefully ark 2 will be good, my expectations have been shafted time and time again, I think quite a few of the statements you have made are just incorrect but I'm not trying to talk in circles, something I'm sure we can agree on is I hope it gets better.

[untold ingot]

Feel free to point out which statement I made was incorrect. I get that it doesn't fit your picture of "WC sucks", but in the realworld it rarely does.

[blissful perch]

IMO the monetization of mods and individual creatures was the biggest mistake in the series - possibly a reason for me to abandon Ark 2 once it comes out. As for code…don’t projectiles still no reg in singleplayer in Asa? I agree with you that it does seem like certain obvious issues just aren’t fixed. People still rely heavily on console commands just to play singleplayer or small multiplayer servers without being crippled by jank

While I’m impressed with WC’s vision (always have been) and overall success in creating an amazing idea for a survival game concept, I do worry that the release of more complex mechanics and systems on top of a shaky foundation of known bugs and things not working could lead to trouble. I’m of the belief it’s solvable but idk what’ll happen in practice

[naive kraken]

Meshing was solved by adding mesh detection around the known bases and patching mesh holes, Wild card as I previously stated uses the archaic Battle eye anti cheat. Mesh biting was fixed with giga and tuso but they refuse to fix it for meks. Shifter pointed hit registry for Bows Shotguns anything that is projectile based doesn't work half the time. I gave you a chance to agree to disagree but you choose vitriol and to be a shill. Yes they program in C++ it is known which is why I made no mention of it and dug a bit deeper than surface and said the issues could be fixed outside of language..
you contradict yourself in your own reply by saying the servers are what need to be fixed yet the servers are the strong point.. you can have two sides of a coin you simply don't want to acknowledge the other side of the coin. I didnt say WC sucks which is a false quote. I Will say they are incompetent and rely to heavily on the optimizations made by the engine and the monetization of their mods and the shills who blindly state if you can't make this game that was in development for almost 15 years than you dont have the right to speak on the matter.

Unless you plan on talking about ARK 2 I will say this again talking in circles is pointless, you are speaking mute points to someone who can clearly see the flaws. If you can't then spend a week on official servers and get back to me, thats how your logic works right?

I think quite a few of the devs are bad at their job at wildcard and it's provable by them refusing to do the hard work and fix the meshing issue. No other game has a meshing issue like this. if they wanted to they could simply put a kill barrier around known bases, They have already proven they dont want ratholes by making it so you can't bed spawn in them. You choose to be ingorant becuase it's different than your ideas. You projected your ideals onto me. I simply stated what you said was not true.

If you want to talk ARK 2, sure if not I wish you a better time

feel free to dm me if you want but this isnt the place to argue the competency of the devs.

[naive kraken]

I think it's a pretty easy guess to assume what would happen, ARK 2 hopefully is written on a custom engine version rather than just the newest and greatest Unreal engine. They have been around long enough to know what they need and what they don't. no reason to keep using the flagship unreal if it is not gonna provide for them

[untold ingot]

Vitriol? lmao what? I think you are reading something into what I said that I didnt actually say. But other games actually have similar meshing problems. Palworld, conan, etc. Even battlefield has meshing issues on occasion. Im not choosing to be ignorant at all. I was just talking about different issues.

[naive kraken]

miss quoting someone to fit your narrative I think is that.

[untold ingot]

My narrative was that comparing ark to rimworld or palworld is a bad comparison because it doesnt properly account for the scale of the problem.

[blissful perch]

man custom engines are a huge undertaking...that might be more of a bite than most folks can chew

[naive kraken]

for an indie dev team yeah, I wouldnt say a company that pulls 100's of millions

[untold ingot]

Writing an engine from scratch for a game is almost never worth it. Modifying existing ones (which is what ark does) is much more reliable, fast, and usually better in the long run.

WC can't write an engine to compete with UE5, even if they spend years on it.

[blissful perch]

snail did basically absorb most of ase's funding, so WC is in an odd space between indie and AAA in terms of size and funding

[untold ingot]

WC has never been AAA tho.

[naive kraken]

They make more than enough off the monetization of the mods, look at their share from the mods, that's a share to wildcard not snail

[blissful perch]

I think what does need to be addressed is that there is a ton of content in ark and it feels wildly variable in how well it performs as expected

[naive kraken]

The Timeline of "Promised" Dates
Original Promise (2020): When ARK 2 was first announced at The Game Awards (featuring Vin Diesel), the original release window was set for 2022.

First Delay (2022): Studio Wildcard announced a delay, pushing the date to 2023 to familiarize themselves with Unreal Engine 5.

Second Delay (2023): The studio delayed the game again, setting the "Late 2024" window that many fans were recently relying on.

Current Status (2025): The late 2024 window passed without a launch. In mid-2025, Studio Wildcard executives confirmed that production had been effectively "put on hold" to focus on ARK: Survival Ascended

I think 5 years is enough time to work on making your own engine rather than develop and familiarize the current latest and greatest if it's not working for them why not make their own, many games make their own engine for just one game

[hearty osprey]

Ark2 ain't coming out till ASA is done
ASA ain't done till the end of 2027

[naive kraken]

it's not just one game, it should be all the devs lively hood that's what drives innovation if they have such a grand eos vision why limit it to the constraints of unreal engine.

[blissful perch]

I think there's merit to the idea, but my guess is that something didn't pan out on a business level for that to work

[naive kraken]

we the consumers have to suffer for their poor contract choices.

[blissful perch]

it's a ton of work with very little financial gain in the short or medium term, and often the folks who excel at engine work aren't the ones driven by making content

[blissful perch]

gonna be honest, official players suffer much more from the official network than anything engine

[naive kraken]

should change your name to spitter of facts

[untold ingot]

Making your own game engine is much more complicated than you are making it sound, and yes while 5 years is plenty of time to make A game engine, their team has decades of experience working in UE4. There is really no real incentive to build everything from the ground up, especially if you have a timecrunch of making sure the company doesnt go bankrupt due to publisher ceos making stupid decisions.

[naive kraken]

decades is a stretch

[untold ingot]

Its really not.

[naive kraken]

you are truly here to argue with me

[blissful perch]

I'd moreso say instinctual contrarian

[untold ingot]

I am now. You said I was responding with vitriol. So now I am lol.

[naive kraken]

Cope

[untold ingot]

Not my job lmao

[naive kraken]

It's my bed time so I shall bid you a good night shifter, hopefully ARK 2 is not a scam

sometimes just gotta block and keep it pushing.

[untold ingot]

Nothing ark has done so far has been a scam. Loads has underperformed, or been bad quality. But thats not the same thing

[blissful perch]

I think it'll be really cool but laden with challenges we have to navigate as a community (just like ase and asa)...and good night 🙂

[untold ingot]

If he actually blocked me for that, thats hilarious. I actually tried to have a reasonable conversation.🤣

Ark2 will have the same issues as asa and ase. Thats basically guaranteed. Thinking otherwise is just wishful fantasy.

[blissful perch]

my hope is at least some learning happened and the issues are different

[untold ingot]

I mean, there has been some major learning with asa. And that is very apparent. But like you always say, the biggest issue with ark is that it does official servers (and those official servers have people playing). If ark was only sp like rimworld etc. It could be massively more performant. If it was capped at 20 people, it would be massively more performant. Its when they move to official that the vast majority of real issues show up.

[blissful perch]

agree that officials are a big issue, though let's also not forget there are very obvious ase/asa problems in SP even (like artifacts not spawning) that really should be fixed in asa to prove to us there is attention on polish ahead of ark 2

[untold ingot]

If ark2 keeps the ark paradigm of large free-range official servers with huge maps, then official will have the same issues because those issues are inherent in the problem.

[blissful perch]

ase/asa is largely passable with all these issues because the underlying gameplay and mechanics are (mostly) simple. Ark 2 raising complexity means it will be a lot worse when jank strikes

[untold ingot]

I still stand on sp only bugs being due to how ark is designed for massive servers and patched to be sp. Its not a natural conversion.

It would be like me cloning aws to run a javascript page. Its a really ineffective way to do it, but also they don't really have a way to do it better.

[blissful perch]

i got the same issues on small servers too tho

it's just a problem that should be addressed (or at least it's a canary for many similar issues for small servers/SP)

[untold ingot]

True. But unless wc stop focusing on large servers, it will continue to be a problem.

[blissful perch]

it does speak to the broader issue of focusing too wide on too many modes of play (imo)

[long sparrow]

most SP issues shouldn't effect servers at all since they are usually caused by the hibernation or other performance saving measures.

obviously there will be the everywhere issues. but officials will usually get those worse than private or small servers.

[blissful perch]

ya know I thought that too, but then I see some issues cropping up on both

[long sparrow]

probably not the usual SP issues then unless you mean non-dedi which is basically just singleplayer but worse.

[blissful perch]

my concern tho is that some of these issues are a decade or older...

my hope is that ark 2 will not see them reappear, but idk how optimistic I should be about that

[long sparrow]

more than likely its a new issue that looks like an old one.
or its actually not a bug and just how they designed it 🤷

[blissful perch]

without seeing the code I suppose I'll never know, but their consistency makes me less faithful that it's not an old issue

[long sparrow]

if you play any game long enough the same issues always pop up.

[blissful perch]

right, but usually they aren't game breaking such that console commands are needed to fix them (ex artifact not spawning bug)

[long sparrow]

unless they are just super simple like that.
just look at minecraft with mob spawners(is required to get to the end on java)
they've had many issues where they just don't spawn correctly.
when you have 1 thing that blocks progression that one thing breaking is very noticeable.

especially in ark where node related issues are common lol

[blissful perch]

you've had issues with blaze spawners never appearing?

[long sparrow]

they've been broken in the past. don't think its been recent tho. years ago

[blissful perch]

right, but years ago is how old this bug is

[long sparrow]

in singleplayer them not respawning is due to hibernation combined with how stuff spawns.
in servers I've never had them not respawn but I imagine on laggier servers that will slow it down as it does with everything.

[blissful perch]

im not saying WC is doing nothing, but it seems like they're spread too thin sometimes

[long sparrow]

some issues are bigger or easier to fix. something that isn't consistent and usually fixes itself is not gonna be the focus

[blissful perch]

right, but the top priority should be ensuring someone with good intentions can finish the game without console commands...at least in my mind

[long sparrow]

and most can. its not a consistent issue.

and when it comes to singleplayer that issue is probably just gonna be assumed to be the same hibernation caused spawn problems that always happen there.

which technically isn't a bug

that issue will likely be in ark 2 lol. unless they entirely change how spawning, saving, etc works on singleplayer compared to servers

[blissful perch]

ok, now fix cave creatures spawning in walls

I'm not really referencing one bug. it's a host of deliberate choices, bugs, and other items that made sense in a sort of "mvp" version of ark that are still around...and that worry me for a more complex ark 2 experience

[long sparrow]

spawn zones are cubes so they spawn inside the walls since they see "floor" there.
its a known thing and they tweak it every once in a while. but there isn't a "catch all" fix they can do outside of fixing every cave spawn node manually lol.

[long sparrow]

definitely just gotta have hope. some things will be better, others will likely be worse hopefully just for the start

[blissful perch]

i appreciate that you're providing this for every example, but my point is not that WC isn't aware of or isn't doing anything...it's that the outcome of janky moments is still happening even after 10 years of ark 1. But yea I agree, I'll be cautiously optimistic. LC will be a huge test case

[untold ingot]

Asa performs to perfection with low mods, on a reasonable local unofficial, with a small numbr of people on mid tier pcs. If you vary slightly from that in any direction it becomes problematic

[willow ravine]

Which is entirely the problem in the first place as a gamer and dev both side should be aware that everyone is going to take it to the limits but beyond that official servers with 10 pop barely run 😕 and the core of ark is multiplayer and which just gets worse as worse as the size increases to its maximum capability which is basically 0 still 2 years into ASA

And that's not even going into meshing duping rmt and cheat clients

[untold ingot]

That's how algorithms work tho. They get worse as scale increases. That's kinda been my whole point. It's a lot more difficult a problem than most non high performance compute devs think about.

I'm not a game dev, but for systems design is still good. It's not mind bogglingly good, but it's not nearly as bad as most people assume it is due to gameplay issues.

Asa is designed significantly better than ase in a lot of ways.

[fallen anchor]

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[mystic wharf]

You said they gonna use asa codes for ark 2 so what about dinos Do you think they gonna re use dino models of asa for ark 2 or they gonna make them from scratch ? @untold ingot and also there is multiplayer games that looks better than single player games like Battlefield and such

[hot jasper]

Why can't I download mods in the game interface and am I stuck on this screen? Is this a new bug? Does anyone know how to fix it?

[trim quest]

Wrong channel for that question

[trim quest]

Also they definitely aren’t reusing models for Ark 2

[mystic wharf]

Oh so they making new models from 0 ? Sounds interesting i though they re used them and modified them

But that would be strange if they re use ark 2 models because it would mean that ark 2 dinos will be like asa tlc models since its the same idea , what do you think ? @untold ingot

[blissful perch]

The difference there is size and funding. EA is one of the world’s largest game devs with an insane budget. WC is not

[mystic wharf]

So you are saying ark 2 dino models gonna be ark ascended models but just modified?

[keen wigeon]

I think there is a pretty high chance of that

[blissful perch]

again, I'm just confused why you're so insistent about this exact same question. it's the single least viable thing to speculate on because we will know instantly when we see any ark 2 gameplay

what seems most likely is that they'll tweak the art style of creatures slightly but otherwise retain most of the underlying models

[worldly garden]

Let me put it this way, no-one, and I mean no-one in here knows the answer 100% besides WC devs.

[untold ingot]

Models are arguably easier to remake than code. Usually cheaper too.Battlefield looks better than sp games because they had million dollar budgets and the number of entities they keep track of is significantly less than ark. So overall it takes way less compute power on a server to make it okay.

[willow ravine]

100% they just need to make it work for they're scaling

Should have been a main fucos from the get go

[untold ingot]

... That's why it's an issue? Scaling I really really hard.

[stray elm]

Scaling is pretty easy.
You just click R for the quick bind, and shrink it down.

[shy jungle]

How much we gonna bet on if ark 2 launches the main menu will have a way to see ark 1s main menu like atlas had

[true viper]

If that were the case, the game would probably be out by now

[tribal chasm]

I would find it funny if they did it intentionally as a joke reference to Atlas

[mint pine]

Can we breed human in Ark2?

[hearty osprey]

Sure u can buddy

[mystic wharf]

Lol

[long haven]

When will it finish?

[mystic wharf]

Do you think the artistic style of ark 2 gonna be the same as ark ascended or not ? @untold ingot

Because that will change a lot in terms of visuals if ark 2 has a cinematographic style it can be film level About the way it will look , pretty sure a better graphic engine doesn't necessarily make another game look better and more film level the game Uncharted 4 against ark ascended is a good example about what i mean

[untold ingot]

Same artists.

Also there is a lot more you can do with sp games than you can with something like ark

[serene onyx]

Real question, why do you ask pretty much the same question so often

[mystic wharf]

Ye but its possible to do multiplayer games with the Level of Uncharted right ? Its not impossible i think

[untold ingot]

You can give it a shot.

I'm not a game dev, nor an artist. You would be better asking one of them lol.

[mystic wharf]

Alright, but im pretty sure thats what that one dev i talked about earlier wants to achieve with ark 2 since the graphics of asa and ark 2 will be the same then im sure ark 2 will have a différent art style , a real life kind of style to make it look cinematic, cause Uncharted looks cinematic and the graphics are not better than asa just the art makes it look better than asa in terms of visuals

Because ark ascended looks more like a cartoonish style than a real life style even the characters

[vital jetty]

Sad part is they still didn't actually fix meshing. There are countless Mesh holes and people utilizing the mesh to wipe bases. Slightly go into a tree above ground while harvesting? Anti Meshed and lose your whole kit.

Meshing to enter a base how you shouldn't or begin foundy wiping? A-Okay!

Honestly with how things ended in ASE and how ASA has panned out, I went from 100% buying Ark 2, to having zero interest in it. I hope I'm wrong and it's great, but with WC's track record, I don't trust their coding / optimization abilities, trust in game direction, or any trust in their enforcement team to give a fun experience.

[naive kraken]

I just dislike the argument most people give is that wild card works so hard on somethings.. yet there is little proof of this.

when literally it happens in single player, multiplayer any server you can just randomly fall through a Map and lose a full inventory of stuff.. it is one of the most demoralizing feelings work so hard and lose it to it being Anti Mesh Destroyed.

Just last month had someone use a tuso to stick a stego through the wall into one of my bases..

They can fix. They refuse to put time and effort into it.

They refuse to add more GMs for support.

Their is very very little evidence ARK 2 even exists or will exist.

I think the best view to uphold is one that protects your sanity and your well being. No reason to get upset about it but I believe ARK 2 Will be the same shit that ASA is and the same shit that ASE was..

Can't even call it a doomer perspective at this point, maybe 10 years ago you could.

[timber cedar]

More admin support

[silent crown]

RAGE

[untold ingot]

You don't have to buy it

[naive kraken]

?

[carmine tulip]

I'm just going to say we are going to get gta 7 before ark 2

[oak tulip]

Gta X before Ark 2

[serene onyx]

Nah ark 2 before gta 6

[blazing ether]

Is ARK 2 even a thing anymore?

[tiny glade]

Ark 2 is a myth

I didn’t see no Black Friday deals about it

[crimson cape]

I really hope that ark 2 is doesn’t have paid creatures, I think bobs tall tales would be alright like to have the map free but items and one or 2 creatures be the paid part but no paid creatures that spawn on any map

I really hope all this Fantastic tame and extra dlc is just to fund ark 2 and ark 2 itself won’t have so much micro transactions thrown out

[lost leaf]

@crimson cape unfortunately that will not change anytime soon as long as the vast majority continue to pay for them they will keep making them.

[scenic thicket]

lowkey just realised that we are getting gta6 before ark 2 o-o

[worldly garden]

I wouldn't rush to assume Ark 2 will have singular paid creatures just because ASA does. All of the maps for ASA so far are included in the base game, only the Bob's Tall Tales have been paid, therefore the Fantastic Tames bring in extra money. Without them there's only the 3 BTT which wouldn't be enough revenue for 2 years,

With Ark 2, it will all be new so will all be paid in the initial release and future map DLCs like ASE did. So paid dinos isn't a given for Ark 2.

[barren obsidian]

Ark 2 seems amazing, is it going to be a story game or its going to be like asa and ase?

[split dove]

it's still going to be a PvE and PvP game like Ark 1, just with more focus on story like Genesis 2 and a redefined take on Arks mechanics like souls-like combat, third person only, dynamic component based item crafting, world events, PvE raids with the Aratai and more

[fading atlas]

Will fps be fixed?

[steep forge]

Will the Game not make a nuclear reaction a computer?

[long haven]

when will ark2 release? Plz I can’t wait

Plz tell me

[hot lion]

before GTA 6

[long haven]

Really?🤜🏾🤛🏻

🤟🤠🤟

[hearty osprey]

Earliest is after 2027

[fossil horizon]

sounds nice but it will never happen

[vital jetty]

Terrible take honestly. They stated ASA being paid was to bring in money to fund Ark 2. They DID NOT state ASA, plus Bob's Tales, plus Fantastical Tames, Plus Paid Mods, etc. etc. was to bring in money to fund Ark 2. So them charging for all of these extra bits is a Sign of where it's headed.

It's worse when you consider the game is considered in "EA" and they're charging all of these extra things.
It's a correct assumption to make. Maybe it doesn't happen right off the rip, but it's quite obvious they'll end up charging for creatures again.

[serene onyx]

Dude if you think they wouldn’t be bringing in more paid things to fund them you’re crazy

[daring field]

Ark 2 is the new GTA 6

Well get a good Fantastic Four movie before we get Ark 2.

[rustic edge]

When put Ark 2 in the market?

[crimson hamlet]

In that case, it may never happen.

[true viper]

It’s been confirmed that it’s more story focused than ASE/A is.

The protagonist might be our self made character, but the overall story flows with the characters shown in the trailers.

If you’ve ever played Halo 3: ODST, the narrative might be structured like that.

You play as a silent protagonist (maybe) and the gameplay of his perspective serves a vehicle to drive the broader story.

[mystic wharf]

Why you just dont release ark 2? Beginning of develpment started probably in 2020 or earlier enough Time to make a game in early access@cunning talon @drowsy ibex

[mint pine]

Dinoblade is Ark2

[serene onyx]

Because it’s not ready? Is it not obvious?

[mystic wharf]

It should be though ? Since 2020 its enough to make a game let alone an early access

[serene onyx]

Yeah.. but it’s not ready

[blissful perch]

If they didn’t pivot to Asa they’d prolly be ready

[tender robin]

Maybe but they have ASA to get more money for the development of ARK 2

[untold ingot]

They have already said it wasn't in active development the whole time

[mystic wharf]

That's stupid

They should have focused on ark 2 instead of asa

Idk why they even made asa

They should have made ark 2 first then asa after for the ones who like ark 1

[untold ingot]

That's not how buisness works

[serene onyx]

They needed money to fund ark 2 also they needed more experience with UE 5

[silver steeple]

Any launch date for ark 2? Or got completely cancelled?

[hearty osprey]

Still being worked on

Minimum date, after ASA is done, 2027+

[serene onyx]

if it were cancelled this channel wouldnt be a thing XD

[keen wharf]

You never know wild card is weird

[autumn spear]

I’d prefer they toss it completely and make ASA better

Pour the time and resources into fixing asa issues

[blissful perch]

The problem is that Ark 1 is just not that good as a 2025 game. The series needs a makeover and Asa won’t be it

[mystic wharf]

Exactly

[winged dome]

The vocal minority threw a fit when they heard about the changes planned for Ark2, then complained to WC that they wanted ASE in UE5 and upgraded ... so now ASA is a thing

[tribal chasm]

When they released OSRS, the game itself was very much like the 2007 build of the game. Over time, yes change is needed to keep players engaged. WoW Classic as another example.

ASA was just absolutely nothing like the old game or experience. No difficulty levelling, obtaining gear, dinos etc. Not a single thought to balance at all, just 'here, have everything at an even more accelerated rate!'

Ark 2 really should focus on progression/survival again IMO, if it's anything like ASA I can't see myself playing it

[serene onyx]

You also have to account for the fact that most people that play Asa are Ase players so they know what to do and how to do it quick

[tribal chasm]

hard to fail with the bumpers on when bowling :d

[blissful perch]

Very true, but it’s also true a bunch of rates went up (tho for years every weekend was 2x in ase lol). IMO the issue is that Ark 1’s grind just sucks because it’s a waiting and chore sim rather than an engaging gameplay loop…so THAT’S imo what Ark 2 has to fix

[winged dome]

Rushing to Ark1's 'endgame' which is just staring at dino butts and hoping for miniscule incremental stat increases

[placid wind]

When it comes out??

[serene onyx]

Not for a couple years

[blissful perch]

Then doing it multiple times for each species

[winged dome]

Answered their own question before they even asked it:
When it comes out.

[untold ingot]

They have been doing that. They said ark2 is on the back burner

[golden geyser]

If they are leaning into a more realistic theme with Ark 2, will they replace the level system with stronger creatures being physically and visibly more dominant than others of their species? For example a Megaloceros having larger antlers, or Mamoths having bigger tusks?

[fossil horizon]

i hope they change the player on player pvp it feels so awkward

[regal island]

ts the equivelent of Dubai 2026 friend group chat

[regal island]

i say they go back to ase player ve player pvp it was good

with some changed of course but it would be similar

[fossil horizon]

have u ever played rust pvp

[regal island]

na

[fossil horizon]

they need something like that

it feels more fluid

[regal island]

or fortnite lmao

[fossil horizon]

obv the ttk is faster but

yeah i don’t want it to start feeling like a mobile game

in a way i like how bad it is

[regal island]

Fortnite aint mobile haha

[fossil horizon]

maybe it’s just the marketing but it just feels cheap

[regal island]

unless its like clash royale

[fossil horizon]

but they need better aiming and stuff either way

never that

[regal island]

WE need a clash royale collab

[fossil horizon]

they need to make ark clash royale to fund a good game

[regal island]

facts

or just ask elon musk to slide sum

[fossil horizon]

ark could be so good bruh idk what they’re doing

releasing ptw skill tree makes me kinda sick

[regal island]

Wym

[fossil horizon]

the lost colony skill tree stuff

[regal island]

oh yea that shi $30

[fossil horizon]

yeah

[regal island]

i am NOT buying that

[fossil horizon]

just ptw stats lol

[regal island]

Deadass, and the ossidon whatever

basically a small giga

but better

[fossil horizon]

and they patching all my best ratholes but can’t fix the game from crashing every 20 min

[regal island]

Atleast they finally fixed crashing on ase about a week or two ago

[regal island]

go to HQ and slime em out

[fossil horizon]

10 year old game btw 🥀

idk who to blame

[regal island]

its not bad

[fossil horizon]

yeah

i like asa more i just wish it ran good

[regal island]

i like both tbh

i redownloaded asa today so i can join a megatribe n have fun raiding n defending

[fossil horizon]

yeah

[regal island]

Cus ase just dont got that yk

[fossil horizon]

i was tryna find a good rathole im on smalls

[regal island]

everykne offlines

fair enough

[fossil horizon]

yeah i was playing cross play but there’s so many botters

[regal island]

deadass?

lwk havnt played yet

[fossil horizon]

i’ll dm u hold on lol

[regal island]

aight

[fossil horizon]

i was playing with them until he sends me this

[dense orbit]

The channel would remain as “the future” forever

Till there’s no future

[serene onyx]

That’s a stretch, it will come out in a couple years

[dense orbit]

More like decades

[serene onyx]

Nah

[hot mountain]

It won't come out before Genesis 2 has been out on ASA for sometime and if they dont add anymore story DLC maps like the one dropping this month

[formal schooner]

damn

you think ark 2 will costs 60?

[serene onyx]

Prob around 30-40

[formal schooner]

damn

[thick moat]

yeah it's gonna be early acces 100% so it will be maximum 45 like ASA

[keen remnant]

it will be 59.99

[prime basin]

It is already 59.99 for me

(Canadian dollars)

[thick moat]

at one point ARK 2 was gonna be 10 dollars with the existence of the ASA + ARK 2 bundle lol

[vernal glen]

early access with 10 fps at best probably

[graceful plover]

ark 2 is buns

🙏

[true viper]

Meeka is in the key art for Lost Colony.

We're moving ahead fellas

[split dove]

this was as clear as day with the first Bobs tall tales DLC, this and the Lost Colony cinematic trailer were just the nails in the coffin for the ''Ark 2 is scrapped'' arguments

[gaunt mango]

This game is never happening

[vernal glen]

Ark 2 has more chances to be some kind of film or series than a game

[serene onyx]

Ok bud

[serene onyx]

Can’t be buns if it ain’t out

[mystic wharf]

Why do you always try to go against everyone who have a différent opinion than you ? You are not obligated to cut off every peoples opinion just because you want ark 2 to happen

[thick moat]

Tf u talking about nero

[livid hill]

Hi

[serene onyx]

Because most of the time people here say the same crap “ is this ever coming out” , yes it’s happening may take a couple years but it is coming

[thick moat]

U gotta be dooming and glooming and parroting everything for 4 years apparently

[untold ingot]

People coming here to say Ark2 is never happening are not expressing opinions. They are typically being trolls.

[mystic wharf]

They are trolling or really thinking that ark 2 ain't gonna happen? if they are ,then why dark answer to them everytime if they are just trolls ?

[serene onyx]

Because I am allowed to buddy

[mystic wharf]

They arent trolls they just have another opinion than yours that's it

[serene onyx]

No, if they all say “ark 2 is a myth “ etc they are trolls

[mystic wharf]

Tbh im more into ark 2 than asa because i want better ai , better Immersion because ark Desperatly lack that but i think they Just want to play asa because they Always loved ark 1 rather than ark 2 but its not really trolling

[serene onyx]

Whatever you say 🤣

[mystic wharf]

For Me personnaly its the opposite i kinda like asa the concept of it and all but im more into ark 2 because i want better immersion in a dino game and i dont feel very immersed in asa that's why ark 2 seem a lot more interesting for my taste for example having an ai of dinos so bad make the game less immersive and less interesting, im not only a builder , i like building but also be challenged by good ai not easy ridicul ai who gets stuck into rocks until you kill them i dont know how can you get enjoyment from that unless you are a strange person @serene onyx

[mystic wharf]

Thats why i hope to find in lost colony things of ark 2 as well since there will be more ark 2 stuff i think , what's so hard to understand dude ? @serene onyx

[mystic wharf]

Tf u mean? What is so unclear in my message ?

[serene onyx]

We not even talking about the same thing XD

[mystic wharf]

I know but our discussion was already finished ,there was nothing more to say , thats why i jumped into another subject that was still related to the previous one in a way which is ark 2 and asa related

[serene onyx]

Not really related, the last one was about people that say ark 2 is a myth etc are trolls

[serene onyx]

I’m pretty sure they said they are adding in a some things from ark 2 into LC as a test

[mystic wharf]

I dont think so maybe just a bit but not a big thing

[mystic wharf]

Why they dont make the npcs exactly like ark 2 level instead of doing low ai quality of them in asa?

[serene onyx]

Maybe so they have some surprises?

[mystic wharf]

I know but still i want see that in asa

Ark 2 is not gonna drop anytime soon

[little cape]

Is there anyone that can join me or take me on please? Im in a deserted Valguero 28 only small tribes like 1 & 2 people here & ofc the occasional raiders from othwr servers. I've got tames all over & 3 different spots including a castle thats metallic. Im alone sp I keep getting raided tried Recruitment channel but no response. Help. Tired of getting raided but this game is addictive either way.

[serene onyx]

Playing PvP on ark 2 already? Get it early?

[mint swan]

What if lost colony is the start of ark 2 and they just keep updating asa with new story maps, new mechanics, graphics upgrades ect. ?

[serene onyx]

Lost colony becomes after extinction but before gen1

Lost colony is located in arat prime which is on the other side of the earth

[mystic wharf]

I would like that but i dont think its the case

[mystic wharf]

Btw what do you mean by graphics upgrade?

[balmy python]

Don't build in the open, have tames all over, or build in known spots like the castle as a solo new player or youre asking to be raided

Find a cave or a rathole and build

[little cape]

Thats what I do. I've got spots & tames all over. A team of guys my level tried to raid me yesterday then they said if you don't mess with us we won't attack you. I'm like you lames you attacked & tried to raid me & by hand I killed 2 of their tames & 1 of them with a pike. Lol I then tried to team up with them but they said they tried that before its a geadacge with team. Yeah right they just didn't like I outshined them. Im originally a COD player so war tactics I know in a game & retired marine. I still need more team though. Im down to join a tribe I just hope I can take my tames as part of the team.

[mint swan]

Unreal Engine upgrade to the latest version.

[serene onyx]

Which is that?

Just searched it up, I see interesting

[untold ingot]

It's not. Lost colony is still firmly Asa. There is a chance for more mechanica/maps/ue5 version upgrades in Asa however

I think one of their goals is to keep up with ue5 updates anyway.

[mystic wharf]

Do you think lost colony will re use assets from the remastered maps of ark ascended or bé completely made from 0 ?

[hearty osprey]

Nothing is 100% made from scratch

[untold ingot]

Every game ever made borrows assets from others. Except for a very few indie games

[mystic wharf]

So by your Logic ark 2 will borow some assets from ark ascended too?

[hearty osprey]

For sure

[mystic wharf]

I also heard that a developer of lost colony wanted to do this new dlc because they wanted to change the nature of the game they said that they want this new dlc to have environnement that hunts you and not you hunting things , what do you think they meant And what elements they gonna change in your opinion ? @untold ingot

[mystic wharf]

Idk maybe they will do ark 2 from scratch

[lone haven]

Ark 2 is ASA

[hearty osprey]

No

[mystic wharf]

Lol that kind of sentence and answer makes me laugh

[mystic wharf]

Maybe yes

[mystic wharf]

@worldly garden can you give your opinion on that ?

[serene onyx]

we'll see in 10 days

[mystic wharf]

What's your opinion on that though ?

[serene onyx]

sounds interesting

[mystic wharf]

But what can it mean in terms of GamePlay ? Like what élément gonna change in your opinion ?

[mystic wharf]

So you dont know? @serene onyx

[untold ingot]

Obviously.

[tiny glade]

I almost forgot Ark 2 is a fuckin myth

[mystic wharf]

You gonna summon @serene onyx dude be careful

[rustic swallow]

it's a myth ? Hope santa is not...

[crystal flame]

A good example of this is with the game Elden Ring. There was a boss that shows up several times called the Erdtree Avatar. It was basically a reskin of a old Dark Souls boss called the Asylum Demon. They did same thing with a few other enemies but I can't remember which ones off the top of my head. Know post was from yesterday but thought it was worth mentioning.

[still ravine]

what happend to sunset?

[vernal glen]

they are closed

[still ravine]

for ever?

[vernal glen]

yea

[still ravine]

my baseee

[vernal glen]

they were made to be closed cuz too small amount of ppl playing

[still ravine]

bruhh

my full base gone

[vernal glen]

they said about sunset servers gonna close, you really missed it?

[still ravine]

im new on the new ark i always played old one

[vernal glen]

it was more than one time

[still ravine]

i joined this dc 5 mins ago

[vernal glen]

[still ravine]

[vernal glen]

you was playing x1 servers?

[still ravine]

smalltribes

[still ravine]

but i can start play that i have character

[vernal glen]

small tribes, gonna be way easier to build base again then

[still ravine]

brow i spend to mutch

im poor now

i really cant get it again

[vernal glen]

what size your base was?

[still ravine]

a full pearl cave

[vernal glen]

island?

[still ravine]

yh and center

but all tames and stuff was island

[vernal glen]

wasnt playing on center tbh

[still ravine]

but my island base the tames and stuff

[vernal glen]

but pearl cave on island way smaller than my base on x1

[still ravine]

i had one to on center its biggest

i just made a ticket

[vernal glen]

i literally became alpha tribe with my friend on valguero in just one month

[still ravine]

without spending a penny?

[vernal glen]

yea

[still ravine]

thats nice

[vernal glen]

valguero was closed for transfer untill today

[still ravine]

can i maybe ger my stuff back

[vernal glen]

i dont think so

[still ravine]

shit

[mystic wharf]

Ark 2 wont use asa assets impossible

[crystal flame]

My guess is they are going to reuse some of the critter skeletons for animation purposes at the very least like Fromsoft did with the Asylum Demon. Setting those up properly can be a lot of work from what I've heard.

[summer jacinth]

Will this game come before gta 6 atp

[oblique horizon]

no

[summer jacinth]

Damn

;-;

[mystic wharf]

Idk but models no, ark 2 will be better in terms of visuals than ark ascended better graphics and visuals im sure

[serene onyx]

I’m chill with him lmao

[crystal flame]

Kinda what I meant with the skeletons. They can use skeletons but update the model that is placed over it and then adjust or replace the animations for it. The skeleton is just the rig they use for setting up those animations and setting up that rig can take a surprising amount of time. Especially with the amount of creatures we have in Ark.

[mystic wharf]

I know but im talking about models not skeleton that's why i said models wont be re used i dont think so ark 2 graphics will be better in term of visuals than ark ascended the ones Who will say no to me are trolls
Because they will make better graphics on purpose for ark 2 when i say better graphics i mean better quality of assets/models , higher than ark ascended

[untold ingot]

Graphics and visuals aren't the se thing as models or assets tho.

[mystic wharf]

I know

Im just too lazy

Im talking about visuals only

[untold ingot]

Also, the graphics quality of Ark2 will be essentially equivalent to asa. It's made by the same people

[mystic wharf]

Hmmm pretty sure they will put more effort into making assets look better that's m'y opinion

[untold ingot]

That doesn't really mean anything. The visuals? Is that the style? The models? The clouds? The lighting? The colors?

[untold ingot]

They did... That's why Asa looks so good. Compare it to ase. It's literally night and day.

[mystic wharf]

But ark 2 assets will be much better than asa in my opinion it can't look the exact same in terms of materials quality

[untold ingot]

The gameplay loop of Ark2 will be different. But from pause to completion Jeremy said it would take a year and a half. Thts not enough time to rebuild everything from scratch. 😂

[untold ingot]

In specifically which sense? The could improve textures but most Asa assets are very high quality

[mystic wharf]

But they started to make ark 2 since 2020 i think, they are that slow? 3 years before asa is kind of already enough

[untold ingot]

They paused it to make Asa.

[mystic wharf]

Ye i know asa assets are High quality , but they probably gonna make it Even better in my opinion

[mystic wharf]

Even if they only did a small portion of the game that doesn't mean they will re use ark ascended models

They can have maybe 15 dinos

Available In the early access launch, they wont have 100 dinos like ark ascended have so they can drop the game on time and make the assets from scratch sfill

So for me No way ark 2 and ark ascended gonna be same quality visually (im talking about quality of assets) not saying ark ascended has bad assets just saying they will be even more better because they want ark 2 to be more high tech like you know what i mean

Ark ascended is just a remaster of old ark thats why in my opinion ark 2 can't bé the same quality as ark ascended at 100 percent

[untold ingot]

Asa is about as high tech as it gets.

You should probably temper your expectations

There are very few games released in the last 5yeara that lived up to expectations.

[blissful perch]

Yea idk what you mean by higher quality assets. Asa isn’t really suffering in the quality asset department, it’s suffering in the “ark 1 gameplay is outdated” and “ark performance is really intensive” ways

The art style will change in ark 2, as we’ve seen in the trailers, but I’d argue that’s not a quality increase so much as an artistic decision

[untold ingot]

It's a parallel direction. Not a genuine improvement on graphics/asset quality

[mystic wharf]

I know im not saying ark 2 will be a révolution just saying that ark ascended is kind of limited by ark 1 , i mean same old animations , same ai etc .... , so less high-tech , i just have a feeling that ark 2 will at least be a bit better than asa but im not Saying that ark 2 wont have some Issues at all

And again what i meant by better graphics i was talking about more detailed assets only like better textures and such

[mystic wharf]

I know ark ascended has decent graphics but we were talking about re use of assets in some games

[blissful perch]

Right, which I again don’t see why they wouldn’t be reused. The assets aren’t broken. Not to say it’s a 1:1 copy-paste, but at minimum I can see some of them being used as a template or model rather than working from scratch

[untold ingot]

The Ai is very much not the same. And if you compare the Asa only creatures the model quality and animation quality is really good.

[blissful perch]

Yea I’d say pretty much the only things ripped from Ark 1 are the gameplay mechanics and the maps. The art style, content, and ai all got serious alterations

[untold ingot]

Old dinos are bad still, but anything genuinely Asa is the quality you should expect of ark2

[mystic wharf]

Its a bit of a changement forthe ai in ascended not big it feels almost the same as ark 1 , and some animations of dinos are so bad idk what you mean by good animations some are good like the carcha, rex maybe but the old ones are bad

[mystic wharf]

Équivalent ? To be more precise Do you mean the quality of assets of ark 2 like trees, rocks etc ... Will have the same level of details than ark ascended? because im only speaking about assets quality like details put into foliage as i said trees , rocks etc ... Not artstyle

[untold ingot]

Pathfinding, which is really the only part of the Ai that matters in Asa, is very very different than in ase. If it feels th same, you just didn't play ase.

[mystic wharf]

Im talking about when dinos Agro on you , it really feels the same as ark evolved and no i played both

[untold ingot]

Omni directional vision is th same between the two. The pathfinding is not the same.

[mystic wharf]

I noticed that They avoid obstacles just a bit better but not by much ,they Still get stuck in the environment and sometimes can't even move and stay immobile like a rock same as ase

If the change was big dinos wouldnt get stuck so much like ase

And we can agree that the ai is still bad

I dont get why arK ascended is called a remaster and they didn't even made the ai good thats strange for me its looks more like ark evolved small update than a huge ark evolved update or remaster not big enough to give the game a new name

[untold ingot]

I mean, the Ai is actually quite an overhaul if you compare it. Also I don't think you are a great judge of. The amount of effort it took to go between Ase and Asa. They tried to keep it mostly the same for ase. Players

[mystic wharf]

Maybe 30 percent of an overhaul but not more if im being generous

[mystic wharf]

Whatever lets go back to graphics, i was saying that in ark 2 things like rocks , trees and stuff gonna be even more detailed compared to ascended, that's my vision they have to make ark 2 better otherwise what's the point to call it ark 2 if the graphics are exactly the same ,im not talking about artstyle by the way just assets quality more detailed

[strange dome]

Ark 2 is a myth

[past glen]

He is goingggggggggggg ARK 2 IN THE 18 DECEMBER YESSSSSS

[mystic wharf]

So the new dlc is ark 2 for you

[mystic wharf]

Dude dont do like the other guy dark gonna come for you He makes me laugh when he answer

[past glen]

Nn

[mystic wharf]

Lost colony will look a lot like ark 2

Graphics and other stuff

[past glen]

Yes I am in the ps4

Sorry my English is not good I am French

[strange dome]

DaRk Is GoNnA cOmE fOr YoU

Dang no gifs here

Kinda messed up my idea

[mystic wharf]

Also i dont know why but the only map that looks kind of beautiful is the Island map the other maps doesn't look impressive visually in ascended , some textures looks really bad @untold ingot

In other maps there is not the level of details that the Island has even valguero map

[reef brook]

Hi

[serene onyx]

You’re so obsessed with me 🤣

[serene onyx]

Ark 2 won’t be coming in December, lost colony is the 18 as of right now we don’t know when ark 2 will launch

[untold ingot]

Rocks more detailed? Bro, rocks in Asa are detailed enough 😂

[mystic wharf]

So ark 2 cant have better than asa?

[untold ingot]

Why would it need better rocks?

[mystic wharf]

Its just funny ksksks

[mystic wharf]

Not only rocks but every assets in général

Ark ascended have also low quality rendering when modeling a Friend of mine who is a modeler told me that he löses a lot of quality when putting high quality model créatures into asa in comparison to other games

Créature mods in asa dont look as detailed as other game mods i seen

I dont know why dino mods in ascended doesn't look high quality they Always look cartoonish even when someone is trying to make a realistic model

And the textures on the face are horrible

But to be clear are you saying ark 2 will have the exact graphics as ark ascended in term of environnement textures such as rocks, trees etc ...? @untold ingot

[hallow inlet]

Je vais afk @jagged copper

[untold ingot]

NO ONE KNOWS. The likelyhood is that it will be identical to asa.

[untold ingot]

He probably needs to understand stuff more. Because looking at recent asa models, they aren't cartoony. So maybe he just doesnt know how to work with ue5

[mystic wharf]

Ok

[tiny glade]

Ark 2 is a myth

[true viper]

Identical in terms of fidelity perhaps, but that’s just about it

[untold ingot]

In terms of asset quality as well. its a bit far fetched to assume that itll be higher quality than asa. Given that it the same people, on the same tight schedule, with the same funding.

[mystic wharf]

Maybe the map gonna be ark 2 level in term of graphics (lost colony map mostly) but the dinos will be better looking since asa has old dinos that looks like ps2

[untold ingot]

I'm thinking you don't remember what ps2 looked like tbh

[serene onyx]

Which dinosaur looks like they came from ps2?

[mystic wharf]

Textures on some old dinos looks so bad that's what i meant by ps2

And the way they walk looks so janky

The model of the quetzal for example looks so bad

[vernal glen]

Yea, old dinos walk pretty bad

[tawdry basin]

Ark 2 no faster than 2027

[vernal glen]

Fastest is 2040 at least

After double ascended ark

[untold ingot]

Yeah... That was ported over from being like 9 years old. Its hardly a good comparison for asa assets.

[true viper]

Be specific about assets being reused (if they are). Environmental stuff like rocks and trees, there's no way that WC would willfully carry over the creature/weapon/armor models and animations from the current game.

[untold ingot]

Yeah, I mean they already showed some concept art on how some creatures will look in ark2. And with garuga on their team and their current team being really skilled, ark2 creatures will be really good.

[tribal chasm]

What I miss in these type of games is the difficulty of navigating terrain -- particularly in modern day Ark, there is no logistics really.
Looking back to early Ark, or perhaps Aberration on launch -- doesn't have to be super tedious, but also it's not fun to have no challenge.

I hope they let us appreciate the terrain in Ark 2, rather than just letting us skip (or fly) over it constantly

[untold ingot]

No fliers ark?

[true viper]

If I'm not mistaken, weather events are an aspect of the world events talked about on the steam page.

So maybe one of those events are heavy rain storms that prevents flyers from wanting to fly above a certain height or at a certain speed.

[tribal chasm]

ah I missed that, that would be cool

[mystic wharf]

Exactly

[mystic wharf]

Me too i dont like the World without challenge

[flat canyon]

Very much a reason I use my first time each map as a "no flyer until I beat the boss". I also often get on a land mount before a flier after having then played the map mostly on foot anyway, becomes a bit of a habit.

[winged dome]

I hope so too.
Ascended took a few steps forward, but also a few steps back. Terrain is a lot more varied with little hills, cliffs, and surfaces to break up what ASE would have as just a simple wall - but without good tools to navigate these new features they just feel frustrating to deal with and people tend to just fly over them.

Having better movement options like vaulting, innate climbing without the need for janky DLC items, or more tames able to scale these features would be a welcome improvement for Ark2

[split dove]

Lucky for us better player movement options are already planned for Ark 2 since the beginning
''Advanced character traversal mechanics like mantling, free-climbing, parkour, sliding, and swinging!''

[simple plume]

Hopefully those actually make it in..

[untold ingot]

On the flip, look at games like enshrouded. Instead of giving you fliers they give you gliders and the ability to dig. There are ways to make terrain transversal without fliers actually be enjoyable. Ark just doesn't do that

It would also be a bit wierd to see dinosuars like trexes doing parqour

[winged dome]

True, but smaller ones like Raptors could much more easily climb or jump higher than the little hops Ark1 gave them. Larger stuff obviously would need to go around or find another way

[untold ingot]

That would be pretty cool imo. If all large and dangerous creatures had a hard time climbing, but ai that wasnt easy to cheese, that could be a really good balance.

[valid swallow]

GG

Smart. Split your already massively divided community into 3 different games

[winged dome]

Few years late to that realization

[valid swallow]

They will release ark 2 for 5k player base and then milk it with p2w

[serene onyx]

Ok buddy

[acoustic ridge]

Ark

[blissful perch]

Certainly possible, though I personally wouldn’t manifest it

[fringe cosmos]

Ark

[zenith sail]

Ark

[mystic wharf]

The fuck are you all talking about with ark ?

[vernal glen]

Ark

[mystic wharf]

You dont answer my question though

[hearty osprey]

Ark

[mystic wharf]

Ark

[winged dome]

It's ok, I'm sure the discussion will inevitably shift to whether or not assets/models will be reused again or not ... for the twelveth time

[mystic wharf]

Nobody is speaking about assets re use here ,you just seem confused

[blissful perch]

I’m mostly convinced it’s trolling

[untold ingot]

Fr

That conversation is starting to tick me off

[winged dome]

It's turning into the new 'Ark2 when?'

Pretty soon we'll have to start a new drinking game 🍻

[zenith sail]

Ark

[mystic wharf]

Ark

[oblique horizon]

Ark

[distant nova]

ark 2 is coming ? u believe ?

[vernal glen]

Ark

[long sparrow]

ark also

[split dove]

A to the R to the K