ark-2

[spark lily]

look mark these words ark2 will be dumpster fire garbage, it will have mostly negiitive in reviews only single player andys will like it.

[gusty lily]

Is multiplayer going to be like it currently is or are they going in a different direction?

[vapid snow]

Is ark 2 still happening

[split dove]

yes and currently planned for the end of 2024, no announcement regarding it's cancellation have been made

[winged dome]

Likely pretty similar. Persistent online world, tribes, PvP/PvE servers. Anything else is speculation

[devout lodge]

The number of times people have had to answer that question is saddening

[split dove]

it really do be saddening, damn you misinformation videos for clicks

[fierce heart]

Will I still be single when Ark 2 comes out?

[mint swan]

ark 2 dead confirmed

release date 3024

the new GTA 6 scheme

[pulsar stratus]

Ark 2 is a scam. There is nothing new except some lighting improvement. They literally re-released Island Map

[torn spade]

ARK Ascended isn't ARK 2.

[stray elm]

ASA isn't ARK-2.

[scarlet crescent]

genius! LOL

[simple lily]

Will there be key fobs in ark 2 to lock my Dino’s

[mint swan]

its ark 1.5

[marble basin]

Still time to delete this comment lol

[tawny fern]

But its not ARK2 its Ark Survival Asended. ARK2 was cancelled right?

[fallow niche]

Ark2 was not canceled. Still set to release at the end of this year.

[twin loom]

is ark 2 going to have servers?

[hexed drift]

Mmmhm

[fallow niche]

Yes.

This channel is only for Ark 2. Please use the other channels for ASA, such as #general, #ark-survival-ascended, #pve-discussion, or #pvp-discussion.

[hexed drift]

Bc if ark 2 actually releases at the end of this year (prolly won’t) but if it dies Asa still wouldn’t have all the maps out and it would already be dead

unless they plan on spam releasing new maps

[tawny fern]

oh ok thanks, my last info was that it was canceled. thanks for the new infos.

[hexed drift]

And if they make the dlcs cost money that is the dumbest shit ever

[fallow niche]

Ark2 has nothing to do with ASA at this point.

[hexed drift]

Already scammed tf outa us with Asa

[hexed drift]

Ik but what im getting at is when ark 2 comes out Asa gonna die

[tawny fern]

not quite true, wildcard said, they uses ASA for a strong base for ARK2 and they using ASA for getting money for ARK2

[hexed drift]

Unless ark 2 is some like completly different game like they kinda said it might be

[fallow niche]

No it won't. They're meant to be played/updated alongside Ark 2, since Ark 2 will be so different.

[hexed drift]

Like the whole dark souls pvp idea

[twin loom]

so theres no point of buying asa? and to just wait.

[fallow niche]

Has nothing to do with ASA gameplay or release. This channel is only for Ark 2. Complaints about ASA and its content can go to any of the other channels under the ARK category.

Ark 2 and ASA are completely different. Move any ASA content to #general or #ark-survival-ascended.

[tawny fern]

never complained about it. i got it.

[fallow niche]

You can purchase ASA if you want the remake of Ark Survival Evolved.

Ark 2 will be completely different, as shown in the pinned messages here and the Steam page. You can make your own decisions about each.

[winged dome]

The devs know ASA and Ark2 will be very different gameplay which fans of ASA/ASE might not like. Thats literally half the reason ASA exists (other than the community literally begging for it)

[split dove]

and said part of the community begging it wasn't made after it got released and diverted time and resources away from Ark 2

[untold ingot]

The major reason for Asa existing is that the community was nonstop begging for it for like a year

[winged dome]

Hence the begging for it part 😂

[hollow condor]

🤡

[hazy vector]

@hexed drift ark 2 is not going to be a survival like game as much as asa

[sturdy haven]

will ark 2 be survival game

[winged dome]

Wrong.

[winged dome]

Yes.

[trim quest]

The only things we can be certain about Ark 2 is the stuff we’ve already been shown

[clever beacon]

This is never coming lmao

[astral token]

I'm beginning to realise the single biggest mistake WC made in ARK II marketing was using the term "souls-like combat". It's so easily misinterpreted and twisted by clickbaiting, frankly not knowledgeable youtubers that it's almost been called everything except the correct thing at this point

[winged dome]

It is kind of odd to make such a statement about crucial gameplay so early on in development

[oak fox]

Ong 😂

[zenith badger]

TBH I think it will be closer to conan exiles then anything

[verbal wind]

not a terrible game to emulate

[pine basin]

They’ve already made a game with souls like combat: Atlas. Which is indeed like Conan (the combat). But I believe Ark 2 (if it ever happens) will have new and improved movement/combat techniques.

[zenith badger]

i hope so

i hope ark 2 will come out, and will be any good
cuz asa is just a dissapointment like me to my parents

[mint swan]

ark two better be like red dead redemption 2 and far cry mixed

maybe monster hunter??

[steel bronze]

Minecraft

[blissful perch]

Pls monster hunter

[little spire]

Damn guys

this game is weird 😢

[glad frost]

I hope their biggest inspiration will be “Gaben: The Final decision”

Masterpiece

[mint swan]

ark 2s probably gonna do a shitty collab w another game and have a horrid dlc

[strong plaza]

It's not in development. Right now it's smoke in the air. They needed every once of money they could muster up just to half ass create ASA. And the amount of money needed to produce a AAA title like ark 2 and to put together an animated series is is tremendous. Snail games, Wc and it's associates have done nothing but prove they can't manage finances. The money from ASA is gonna be burnt through trying to fix their stupid ideas of injecting broken code into a new game with new makeup on it. They can't manage to fix something they've been working on for what like 8 years? And then pass it off as a new item and all the lies in the world to justify their actions. They never meet deadlines or turn out a finished working complete product ever. So,,,,, maintain your wishful thinking. Because future hopes for ark outside of ASA is nothing but a pipe dream.

[strong plaza]

Rockstar character control mechanics are horrid. Nothing like coding thier movements of a character into a box. Man rockstar may have good games. But their controls are the worst part of it. And highly inaccurate with the raw input. So much so that their aim assist is cranked so high just be able to play it. That crap will never work in a real pvp type game. GTA is actually trash if you think about it. And Red Dead is just pretty trash with repetitive missions that that are all the same.

[mint swan]

kinda agree not really though because the controls are meh but the games are good (at least red dead)

[fallow niche]

Please move further venting about ASA to another channel. Regardless of your opinions of Wildcard and ASA, this channel is only for discussing Ark 2. Thanks.

[tiny karma]

I hope the gameplay is like super Mario Bros

[blissful perch]

I'd love to see the mario bros that you play 😂

ark2/mario crossover when

[devout lodge]

I want ark 2 to have either no flyers or make flyers really hard/ limit theyre capabilities

[fallow niche]

Flyers are already confirmed, at least some sort of ptero is.

[blissful perch]

Agreed. My hope is that the PTs they showcased are basically character transport only. OR there’s some airborne threat that makes grounded play more viable

[devout lodge]

I am definitely hoping for more airborne threats maybe like wild creatures maybe something like a wyvern or an argie (if those exist in ark 2) being able to pick you off your mount and maybe drop you from high or try to feed you to their young would be fun

I would like to see a bit more of a fear factor injected into the game, something i feel like ASE and ASA are lacking in

Similar to something like the fear most people get when playing the subnautica games (for those who are familiar) i know that ark 2 will be a vastly different game than something like subnautica but i feel that it would benefit from some fear of either the unknown or scary creatures etc

[winged dome]

I'd just be fine with no rideable fliers period. 🤷

[drowsy bison]

2030 ark 2

[blissful perch]

agree - though I like the fear you get as a bob in the very first bit of your ark experience just fine...rather than getting grabbed from the dark depths

[untold ingot]

Spoken like a true discord finance and business experg

[untold ingot]

I bet that the first thing nekatus will do is make a map with fliers disabled

[mellow bobcat]

heh faster 2300

[covert wasp]

Never gonna happen lol

[warm nova]

So it's gonna be ninja Gaiden from Nintendo like combat? Impossible to finish?

[untold ingot]

Sotf

[astral token]

Nah

[sick sluice]

Kinda sad I have to get the newest Xbox to play ark

[fallow niche]

That happens when older consoles become obsolete after several years. It has always happened.

[sick sluice]

😭

Man now imma have to save up 400 dollars bro

[winged dome]

Pretty sure he said he had no interest in Ark2 - that could change in the future, but plans to stick with ASA

[shadow zodiac]

Flyi g just needs to be made significantly more dangerous. Our only threat is argys the slow things that don’t agro unless u get way too close. We need it be more similar to the danger you feel when exploring the wyvern scars. Maybe not that dangerous but it needs to be scary. Maybe like a “the mob” which is like a pack of aggressive dimorphs that have enough health to do some good damage to you no matter your creature

[winged dome]

Or instead of being harassed constantly, make health, weight, stamina, and damage low to compensate. Argies are such a good workhorse tame because they do everything pretty well while also being able to fly and bypass most threats

[blissful perch]

Fliers as a niche will always beat out ground based tames if they’re competing against each other on even footing

To make ground travel worthwhile while keeping fliers, you need to provide a unique niche for each, and ensure fliers have a tight, narrow niche…otherwise you’ll only see fliers

For example, with cryopods…is there a true need for fliers to be able to carry things as large as a rex or mammoth?

[granite flame]

Yes because you cannot pod a black weighted mammoth and keep the resources

[blissful perch]

Thank you for this - fliers carrying tons of weight breaks grounded gameplay

[fallow niche]

@ornate spade
This channel is only for Ark 2. Please use the other channels for ASA, such as #general, #ark-survival-ascended, #pve-discussion, or #pvp-discussion.

[loud merlin]

I get this question prob happens alot and is annoying but is this still actively being made and is there any possible release dates? Srry just wondering

[pallid compass]

you can get a xbox series s for like 250

[sick sluice]

Dang fr?

[pallid compass]

Yeah just go to ur local walmart thats what i got my xbox for

[sick sluice]

Alr

[lethal wasp]

Is ark 2 going to be as good as ark ascended?

[winged dome]

Current release window is end of 2024

[loud merlin]

Ok

[glad frost]

More likely like Atlas

[gleaming ravine]

Do we think ark2 will have PvP?

[split dove]

why would you think it wouldn't?

[vale phoenix]

You don’t play PVP much do you? At least not official

[blissful perch]

I’m a little perplexed how my intentionally provocative game design question has anything to do with my official PvP hours

[glad frost]

He hinted at the fact that niches for all of these things already exist in PvP. That said, none of this is about Ark2, you guys are discussing about ASE and ASA mechanics, we have no idea of how applicable any of this will be to Ark2, and it likely won’t be at all given that the game is supposedly gonna be a radically different experience. Allegedly.

[lament viper]

It's pretty simple really. Everybody sees gameplay through their lens. And disabling flyers carrying creatures would destroy a lot of PvP tactics like dropping soakers on enemy bases and would make raids in general slower. Which PvP players obviously do not want. PvP depends on flyers in the current meta.

But as said, it's gonna be a different game. If it comes out. I for one also have some problems with flyers carrying creatures several times their weight. On the other hand it's undeniably convenient. But also pretty OP.

It all depends how they want to approach this.

[blissful perch]

I mean we DO know pteranodons are in ark 2, so I don’t see how a discussion of ensuring their movement scheme (flight) is changed so it’s not a dominant playstyle…is somehow not relevant

[blissful perch]

Certainly true that many discussions here invoke people’s defensive “no don’t change my ark 1 playstyle!” - as though ark 2 has anything to do with changing ark 1. My strong preference for ark 2 though, like yours, is a world where fliers have a specific support/scout niche and not a transport/combat niche

[lament viper]

If Ark 2 still has a weight stat you could regulate it through that. I mean, a Ptera carrying a human is already questionable. Carrying more...

A Ptera could work as a light scout. It can carry a human and some basic (light) gear. So maybe up to leather armour in current ark terms. So you can get up somewhere high and scout with a spyglass. But it wouldn't be able to carry a human in full riot gear.

Could also work as a passive food source for beginning players. As Pteras were apparently piscivores you could send them on fishing trips where they fly off and come back later with some fish.

[pine basin]

Ark 2 needs to change a lot so we won’t need cryos. Needing so many creatures to have an efficient breeding turns the bases into messy places.

[lament viper]

Treating creatures more like actual companions instead of farming machines would elevate a lot of that in my opinion. You'd have less creatures overall but would be way more attached to the ones you do have. Maybe instead of breeding yourself you steal eggs and then nurse the baby and actually spend time with them. Would also be a way better system than the current attachment system.

But yeah. That would pretty much kill PvP I guess

[blissful perch]

I suggested a super straightforward system that could work for PvP - when “dead” after you level something up enough/have a close enough bond, it goes on a lengthy cooldown and can be respawned. Rather than dead forever

The idea is that, coupled with fewer tames, a series of kills can still result in a raided base - but you don’t need a billion cryopodded creatures and eggs to get back in business

[lament viper]

There are still some active Tek ruins afaik, right? Could take some resources there and "sacrifice" them to the great "Tek god" to respawn your creatures. The ruins would then go on a cool down. This would actually create natural points of interest for PvP content.

[blissful perch]

Fine with that too - and yes tek ruins are confirmed

But breeding (and the associated need for a billion creatures) is because of 1) mutation stacking (🤮) and 2) the need for spare creatures in the event of a PvP attack (because creature and player lives are expendable)

Right now, a creature is largely similar to an armor kit - you grind it out, have several on standby, and use them as an expendable thing. But what if that changed? What if creatures became a part of your player, so they remain always a part of PvP as a tool…but not a consumable, expendable resource

[lament viper]

That and creatures in Ark I are generally too strong in my opinion. PvE becomes trivial after you actually get into breeding or tame a high level in general. Having a Rex that can practically stomp the whole island on its own isn't exactly thrilling gameplay. Skill should be rewarded more than levels. If I can't take on something head on maybe I can use a different tactic? For example: I'm using a raptor and I want to kill a trike. Charging in head on would be a bad idea. But flanking and using the raptor jump to get on its back, where it can't hit you would be much more interesting in my opinion. Actual tactics you can use to defeat different enemies.

[blissful perch]

So much yes to this

Give tames dodges and differentiate them from each other in movement type, skills, and combat strengths/weaknesses. I’d be 100% ok with a smaller roster if this were to happen

[lament viper]

Aye. Most creatures in Ark I are generally useless or rather just upgrades to each other. Who uses raptors after their first couple hours in the game? With (hopefully) new AI and actual differences in combat behaviour via skills/strengths/weaknesses a pack of raptors might actually be terrifying, even for larger creatures.

[blissful perch]

That’s the hope. Each creature should serve a unique niche (or a few creatures can serve the same general niche but for different biomes, slightly different playstyles, etc), and the goal should be relative balance rather than what ark 1 feels like - a progression system

Especially if those so called knowledge points can be used as a way to gain “creature knowledge” - so you don’t actually feel the rpg need to get weaker -> stronger creatures as the saddles unlock. You can instead get creature knowledge for what you want, and certain creatures can be more or less difficult to obtain

[split dove]

Gain both experience points from gameplay, and knowledge points by accomplishing key objectives and overcoming unique challenges, to progress along a massive skill tree filled with new active abilities, perks, and passive benefits.

[lament viper]

You could also further specialize and differentiate even inside the same species. For example keeping with the raptors you could unlock the knowledge for different saddles or saddle attachments like leg straps for the rider to keep them inside the saddle during jumping attacks or a streamlined, lighter saddle for higher speed etc.

[blissful perch]

Yeeeep. I think we had a conversation about a trait tree system for this actually

[split dove]

i can't be bothered to look up my replacement suggestion for stat mutations that's like dino skill trees
TLDR: replace stat mutations and mutations in general with dino skill trees unique to every creature (this prevents the now classic ''AFK breed to cap and lvl to destroy everything'' mutation system) so every dinos skill tree starts at the same amount and can be upped to a working cap (let's say lvl 20 is max) and have the endgame be made to be doable without having a maxed tree and a maxed one being slightly easier to accomplish the same endgame than without a maxed tree

[lament viper]

Should be rather small stat improvements, if at all though. Otherwise you have the same problem that PvE becomes trivial.
I'd actually be for a visual "skill tree" if tames become permanent, respawnable creatures. Which would allow you to visually distinguish your tames.

[untold ingot]

Tienes que decir esto en #1110925695900713072

[blissful perch]

Yes the idea is the tree is more about actual ingame skills than stats. You’d unlock jumps, dodges, special moves, etc

[vocal flower]

ah ok perdon

[winged dome]

Huge potential. Could even have nodes for resource weight reductions, in-inventory crafting (Smithy? Building Bench, ect?)
Tons of potential to really make a tame unique and yours

Lack of saddle customization was a huge miss in ASE/ASA

Virtually none outside platfom builds

[peak hull]

Where is this skill tree info coming from ?

[fallow niche]

The Steam page,
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2050420/ARK_2/

Steam

ARK 2

Suddenly awakened on a strange primal world filled with dinosaurs and humans struggling for dominance; you must piece together the history of how you arrived there, team-up with legendary heroes, and confront powerful dark forces seeking to control the fate of all life. Saddle up, and join the definitive next-generation survival experience with ...

Release Date

To be announced

▶ Play video

[peak hull]

Ok thx

[grand pawn]

Isn't this project canned tho

[split dove]

No

[waxen moss]

They need to can it cause they can't even make asa function half as good as ase with less content I swear these guys aren't even trying anymore

[grand pawn]

I am just unsure on how the same size dev team can cope with a whole new game on top of managing all exploits and gamebreaking issues that pop up with each patch, it would be unfair to work them that hard

[blissful perch]

The team for Asa + ark 2 is much larger than the one for ase (if that helps)

[verbal wind]

they had years of work in ue4 to polish ase, theyve barely had a year in ue5 to give us a revamped game, id say theyve done good so far

you look at ase 1 year on and it was pretty bad compared to what we had at the end

[subtle ether]

At this point im just waiting for mods to start rolling in, Like the big mods.

[round portal]

They won’t they can barely handle the game they have now

[waxen moss]

They need to fire them all then cause asa is buggier then ase ever imagined being

[blissful perch]

idk, ase in 2015 was pretty damn buggy

i was disappointed that a lot of ase bugs from early access reappeared in asa...also not pleased that it looks like ase code was lifted for asa. However, the team is certainly has more capacity and asa on launch is better than the ase launch

[fading belfry]

i flew frew a wall 🙂

[arctic mica]

They probably were forced to reuse a lot of code due to time constrains imposed on them. Happens more often than it should on most development teams: The project manager, product manager or CEO makes impossible promises and the devs have to try to do the impossible to make those promises a reality.

[blissful perch]

100%. Doesn’t mean I have to like it 🙂

Especially if they already massively scaled down the scope of Asa and basically TBD delayed ark 2 - only for it to feel like a copy paste of code in a lot of places

[untold ingot]

Imp reusing code isn't an issue. It's a remaster, not a ground up recreation.

[blissful perch]

A remaster should offer some greater degree of polish - and as I’ve seen it so far, it’s only sort of there. Se could change that ofc. And it’s less the reuse of code “why fix what isn’t broken” and more the reuse of code “hey this exact same exploit/bug is back!”. Something I doubt will bug ark 2, but it does lower my confidence in the ability to polish

[untold ingot]

I mean, sure, but what it does mean is they tried to revert back to ark at its original concept before all the changes that came with later dlc came around. Likely what happened is some of the fixes were not in the base game code, but we're included in further dlc which made it more complicated to extricate. Spaghetti code at its best. Also, if you think they won't reuse Asa code for ark2, I think youll be saddened and disappointed, because they definitely will

[blissful perch]

Are you sure they did? Because dlc creatures and content are still spawn able and are present in Asa code iirc

I also couldn’t care less if there’s a code lift in ark 2 - I’m not an auditor. It’s more to say that ark 2 should in theory be distinct enough that there’s no real reason to yank ark 1 code in such bulk quantity that the bugs just ride on into the next game with no review

[vital jetty]

Don't mind me, just now catching up on all i missed in this channel. If this is true their company is 100% going under. If ASA is supposed to be their future, it looks pretty bad with all the cheats right now.

Ark 2 would be their saving grace if it was actually coded in proper so the cheats couldn't be THIS outrageous.

[vital jetty]

It was definitely copied over code in most areas. A lot of exploits in the very beginning of launch of ASA were Legacy ASE exploits. It's like they ported over the original code but not the patch that fixed them lol.
maybe it was just a coincidence, but seems pretty strange.

I can say after the disaster of ASA I have Zero interest in Ark 2. I no longer trust them. Especially with their new attempted way to make you pay for the DLCs in ASA they said you wouldn't have to (which you technically don't, but we all know you'll be severely limited vs anyone who does buy said pack).

[blissful perch]

aren't those paid packs cosmetic only? Or did I miss a piece of news?

[pallid quest]

sounds like this would make the game size balloon

[split dove]

Only thing you'd have to pay for are those adventure packs coming with dlcs and the new dlcs coming later on.

[blissful perch]

What’s in the adventure packs? Tames and new engrams?

[lament viper]

And probably for 15-20$ each?

[split dove]

iirc a tame, cosmetics and new engrams in theme with the map

[stray elm]

Yeah, basically mini-expansions.
Scorched Earth's one will be WildWest themed, and will have a cowboy skin, along side a functional train with dynamite.

[winged dome]

Was there mention of a new creature too? Or am I imagining that

[split dove]

from the official wiki page

Each DLC map will be brought back with 2 brand new creatures to be found and tamed in the landscape. One free community-chosen creature, and one paid creature from the Adventure Pack of each DLC map.

[pine basin]

I can’t get how they will block the paid creatures from the people not buying the adventure pack.

[astral token]

We alr have a precedent, HLNA

[glad frost]

How so?

[astral token]

You can have the item without the DLC but you can't use it

[winged dome]

And DLC-specific chibis
But at the very least those are just cosmetic variants, they don't provide any gameplay benefit or advantage over other chibis

[vital jetty]

as I was responding noticed Flobs posted the info. on top of that the Adventure pack will also include things like the Train and dynamite as well, and something similar is supposed to happen for every canonical map.

So it's literally just a way to bypass the whole "you don't pay for DLC maps" while making you pay for said DLC maps, or you literally miss out on content lol.

To me that's one of the scummiest moves I've seen.

[glad frost]

HLNA only works on Gen1 and Gen2…on the other maps you can only have a cosmetic. It’s a skin, doesn’t do anything

[blissful perch]

If true, and if stuff like dynamite isn’t just a reskinned grenade, I’ve got no counter perspective to offer. It’s a really nasty monetization approach that I hope doesn’t go to ark 2

[vital jetty]

The way it was worded, it sounds like it isn't going to be a reskin, though I could at least tolerate that. The whole train thing and new dino you have to spend money on though for makes no sense. Means there will what, be a dino on map I can see, but not tame unless I buy? Really weird strategy lol.

I hope people refuse to buy the packs until they actually fix the game, but we know people will still buy it. Makes it feel like they'll carry on the same tactics into Ark 2 if its "successful".

[untold ingot]

The map is literally identical to what you had in ase, but improved. If you think content packs (that include gameplay content and improvements) is scummy, just look at the rest of the gaming community

In my opinion it'll either be good or really bad. As a dlc pack there is nothing inherently wrong with the approach, provided it doesn't interfere with the map working normally

[primal phoenix]

How's that gonna work on official? Only certain members can get it? Or is it for unofficial only? Even then, only host needs it

[stray elm]

I could imagine something akin to how Fenrir works, and you're able to spawn in the tame via a one time use cryopod.

[astral token]

You can spawn it in/mod it in except it won't work

Unless you own genesis and have it installed

[burnt flume]

We need ark 2

[analog bison]

bruh

[neat lark]

Been playing Ark for 9 years, nothing has ever actually upset me….
But payed for Dinos and engrams really strikes a nerve

[untold ingot]

You've been doing that for 9 years, just it came with a map before

[blissful perch]

There’s never been a map you can play where, on the same official map, there’s content locked behind a separate pay wall. It’s an entirely new monetization scheme - how it works for tames could really determine the future of people’s trust in ark monetization

[untold ingot]

The principle of it is the same tbh. It's content locked behind a pay wall. It's just different content this time

[south lance]

used to be a whole gameplay loop that you purchased, now its part of that

[glad frost]

It also used to be new, now it’s a remaster - it affects how people see it. Besides, virtually nobody has complained about the new upcoming DLCs, many complain about these “packs” locking stuff they supposedly should already own with the remaster.

[south lance]

if packs are successful i wouldnt be surprised if we see new dlc maps every several years (2+) with packs being the primary mode on content addition

that might be the point ultimately tho, since asa is largely there to fund ark2

[blissful perch]

It’s hard to say. But it’s a spooky precedent if we have to pay for things that once came free (single creature releases being the biggest one) in addition to maps. But this may also be a temporary thing until all the ASE dlcs finish coming out. I certainly wouldn’t want to see this extended to ark 2 though, because I hate seeing the paywall while playing the game. It feels way less miserable if someone else has it than seeing it on my own but not being able to interact with it

[split dove]

from the latest crunch stating center wouldn't have any adventure packs leads me to believe it might just be only story dlcs getting the packs , while the mod maps only get the creature and map overhaul.

[blissful perch]

I see. Either way I think it’s going to be something to keep a very close watch of. It could be totally fine, but it could also set a really nasty tone

[harsh spear]

i personally cant be bothered with normal ark anymore. im just waiting for ARK 2.
And im hoping ARK 2 will bring completly new gameplay loops and maybe some RPG elements.

is there any infos regarding to that ?

[glad frost]

Probably gonna have a skill tree like Atlas

[blissful perch]

Nothing since the founders note afaik

[lament viper]

It's curious how there is effectively nothing on Ark 2 out there. You'd expect at least some leaks here and there.

But if I am honest I am not expecting anything until they've milked ASA completely dry. Why give yourself competition if you have a perfectly fine cash cow?

[untold ingot]

Why would you expect leaks?

Also what is this with people thinking ark2 can't be released alongside Asa? The original design of them was to run oarallel

[lament viper]

Because there are almost always leaks. Some even intentional to keep the interest going.
And simple. Money. They'd split the player base they have garnered. Most companies would consider that a bad thing. Why split people between your products if you can milk one and then present the next, if the interest in your first product fades.

[untold ingot]

I would remind you that Asa is only in existence because the player ase was split already

Also, if only half the Asa people buy ark2 then they have made 150% what they would have on Asa, assuming no new people buy it. Those are good numbers for any company

I really don't get your reasoning there. Almost every major game company has multiple distinct and different titles

It's a common practice, especially if it's a sequel lol

[split dove]

There are various reasons we’ve decided to take this approach. One is to refine the development team’s skills on UE5 and how far it can be pushed for next-generation titles (ARK 2).. Another factor is for business reasons. Developing a next-generation sequel while no longer releasing paid expansion packs has proven difficult for our Studio’s long-term survival, so we need to continue generating revenue while we develop ARK 2. And finally, the ultimate reason: whereas ARK2 is being designed as a Souls-like adventure, we want to provide the community with an evergreen classic-ARK experience, one that can continue to grow over time on a cleaned-up code base, leveraging new technological advancements not only in the industry but also what we’ve been working on with the ARK Franchise as a creative whole.

[untold ingot]

This has to be wrong because I am a discord business major and I think that having two games is too many 🤣🤣

[split dove]

shii you right, i'm gonna have to disclose my factual argument now

[lament viper]

That... Was not my argument.
You're right. A bigger portfolio of games is good. If you have the manpower to develop them and if they fill their separate niche.

Ark I and Ark 2 are similar enough to attract the same player base.

But yeah, to be honest, I am just too disenchanted by modern game studio practices. So all I am seeing is "How can we make more money with the least amount of effort?". Which is a valid tactic. I am just not a fan of certain things Wildcard on its own and now their parent company/publisher have pulled. So I am very careful with what I am willing to buy into. 🤷

[untold ingot]

Ark 1 and ark 2 are supposedly very little alike

[winged dome]

How so? They're both open-world survival crafting games with a focus on base building, group play, and taming

[untold ingot]

That's like saying dayz and rust are the same too. But they are wildly different

[winged dome]

I think its a little early to say how different Ark2 will be since we don't even have gameplay yet. All we have are a handful of teasers

[split dove]

and descriptions of gameplay elements

[winged dome]

Of which, most are still pretty inline with ASE/ASA. Sure, theres some differences but at the end of the day (so far) they sound pretty similar

[split dove]

likely the same basic gameplay loop just with some big changes and new additions in regards to mechanics and playstyle

[untold ingot]

The whole combat system is getting a massive overhaul. It's safe to say it'll be as different from Ark 1 as ark1 is from rust

[glad frost]

The devs said it would be different enough that they’re not sure the whole playerbase would like it. That said, I’ll say it again, WC has already used the catch phrases “souls-like combat” and “skill tree” for Atlas. While the latter is true, the former is quite the stretch…so we’ll see what it actually entails when the time comes

[long sparrow]

I imagine its more like conan exiles then true souls-like rolls, dodging, climbing, etc are all in that after all.

[blissful perch]

while my dream is monster hunter meets ark - I also predict conan style combat

[untold ingot]

I would love a Conan style combat for ark

Just remove q dagger spam because that is toxic

[winged dome]

Monster Hunter: Ark please 🙏

[pale venture]

botw style ark?

[long sparrow]

its still gonna be a sandbox game with crafting, building bases, and taming dinosaurs. WAY closer to conan then botw

[pale venture]

I’d like a combat system more advanced than just meat shielding and attacking

[blissful perch]

Wouldn’t it be nice if component crafting meant components from specific wild creatures? And bonuses to be a bit more special? It’s time for the rex pelt set 😉

[winged dome]

Better give decent fire resistance

[blissful perch]

Free meal or it’s trash gear

[winged dome]

Once you go FM, you never go back

[craggy dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/eyebrow-raise-hey-whats-up-oh-you-know-you-know-it-gif-15778696

[winged dome]

Not you.
Well, maybe you 👀

[astral token]

YOOO FM

[craggy dawn]

Yo

[astral token]

How u been my man

[pulsar stratus]

Ark 2 is a scam. There is nothing new except some lighting improvement. They literally re-released Island Map

[pale venture]

my g ark 2 isn’t out yet

[blissful perch]

I regret to inform you that ark 2 is not available for purchase yet - so it’s not a scam. It looks like you’ve mistaken the remaster for the sequel

[split dove]

can't expect intelligence around here tho

[fresh thorn]

Yooo you have Ark 2 already? You’re so lucky

[trim quest]

Bro wtf is your logic? The game hasn’t even shown footage or gameplay yet, we literally have a few teaser trailers and concept art. That’s it, the game is in development and it likely won’t be out for a few years.

[craggy dawn]

Not so bad

[ionic mulch]

Ok sasuke uchicho

[normal obsidian]

bro they already have an ark 2? I just started ark evolved

[pale venture]

no, just a remaster of evolved

[fallow niche]

See pinned messages for all information regarding Ark 2, as it has not released at this time.

Ark Survival Ascended is a remaster of Ark Survival Evolved and is not the same as Ark 2.

[astral token]

!me too

[eternal yoke]

Shhh

[quick epoch]

When's ark 2 coming

[pale venture]

2100

[split dove]

atm planned for end of 2024 (for now)

[pale venture]

press x to doubt

[serene onyx]

If they extend the dates for asa maps then 100% it’s getting delayed prob another year

[queen willow]

@quick epoch By order of the Lord Alfa Overseer, it will not launch until all ASA maps are launched and all the survivors on all of those ARKs are ascended.

[quick epoch]

So never

[burnt flume]

We need ark 3

[deft phoenix]

hello

[dawn trail]

When is ark 4

[winged dome]

Lets finish and optimize 1.5 and release 2 before we start thinking about 3...

[heady thorn]

But what about 4?

[pale venture]

What about 5?

[heady thorn]

I just know ark 6 is gonna be game changing

[winged dome]

So funny, I forgot to laugh.

[heady thorn]

huh, you must be fun at parties

[winged dome]

Likewise, mindlessly echoing the same joke repeated ad nauseum

[heady thorn]

Shut up bro 💀

[sinful plinth]

Ark 2 is gonna have combat similar to palworld. i guarantee it.

[blissful perch]

I’m on my knees for monster hunter, but Palworld would certainly be a big upgrade from ark 1

[tacit oak]

What about Ark VI?

[untold ingot]

I want it to have Conan combat

[winged dome]

Conan or Valheim with emphasis on different weapons having different movesets.
Or just Monster Hunter 😂

[blissful perch]

To be clear, monster hunter fun weapons only. Bonus points if it’s IG

[untold ingot]

I don't like monster hunter controls, they feel clunkyq

[untold ingot]

As long as ark2 has large oceans I'll be fine though

[blissful perch]

They’re fully mappable tho? Unless you mean the number of buttons for the various tools and abilities

You can certainly have a simplified monster hunter system (part breaks, complex attack patterns, large hp pools but higher quality loot, multiple weapon types with unique attacks, etc)

[untold ingot]

The animations and timing

[blissful perch]

...there are 16 different weapons with unique animations and timing

(in MHW anyway)...and obviously not all of those can 1:1 map to a pvp game anyway

[winged dome]

MH is not user friendly when it comes to controls. Especially when switching between melee and ranged weapons. My biggest gripe as I only play Mouse + Keyboard. But if you take the time to study (and I do mean study) the controls, you get used to them.

But the animations and timings is just a gitgood moment. All weapons are perfectly viable against any monster. Some are better than others, but nothing is useless

[jade grotto]

Im so confused is ark 2 happening or not

[mint swan]

Ark 2 is the friends we made along

[sinful plinth]

only after wildcard makes off with 2 billion dollar

[void carbon]

when will ark 2 be released?

[split dove]

current ETA is end of 2024, that's the release window for now

[sharp bay]

Don't they have content release in ASA through 2025?

I would imagine they would release it AFTER, so they can profit on the DLC skins they're gonna be selling.

[split dove]

they got 2 teams working on both ASA and ARK 2, so they could release it before ASA has all maps rolled out as ARK 2 will be an early access launch title and they are meant to exist alongside each other for years to come

[astral token]

💀

[lunar shuttle]

When is ark2 on ps?

[proven cypress]

Let’s not forget that “surprise” planned for November

[fallow niche]

We do not know. Currently, launch is for Steam and Microsoft.

[lunar shuttle]

🥲

[fallow niche]

Can move that to another channel. Keep this one for Ark 2.

[untold ingot]

I mean sure, but why would I want to git good at a game that feels clunky. Other souls like combat games feel way better

I haven't played many, but all of the ones I have played feel better than mh

[winged dome]

Biggest difference is damage output. Souls games, with even minimal planning and build research you can take down bosses in 10-20 hits no problem. MH (outside of extremely niche cases) fight takes 15-30 minutes

Souls is 'kill or be killed DPS race'
MH is 'endurance battle'

[glad frost]

And Ark2 will likely be neither

[blissful perch]

Tbh the fights in mh because of this have so much more room for synergy

[untold ingot]

Timing and ttk is not the same. Mh feels clunky and not smooth

Conan combat is smoother than mh

[winged dome]

I disagree, but you might not see the difference if you haven't spent the time to really learn MH controls and combat flow

[untold ingot]

I will admit I only played like 20 hours of it.

The combat style and execution wasn't good enough for me towant to continue

Other games do the style of combat just better

[wraith birch]

^^^blasphemy

[blissful perch]

i agree a direct MH rip is probably unwise - since "topples", a huge part of MH, would probably be supremely tiltiing in PvP

but the weapon diversity, animation diversity, status diversity, and hitzones? S+ tier combat

[untold ingot]

Maybe, I didn't like the controls and how combat felt (even with fully customized controls)

[deft phoenix]

ok

[winged dome]

I mean, ASA is exactly as advertised. Your fault for not paying attention before buying.
But to answer your question, currently targeting the end of 2024

[serene onyx]

You got what you paid for

[hallow escarp]

its pretty clear on the store page what youre buying

[runic temple]

Ofcourse its a seprate game...

[glad frost]

They didn’t specify it wasn’t the elder scrolls 6 either, you can’t imagine my disappointment when I found out

[manic wedge]

anyone know when ark 2 will be released

[distant epoch]

ARK 2 ??????

[winged dome]

ok

ok

[untold ingot]

Literally read community crunches. That's all you have to do. Watch the announcements channel. Don't get your news from youtubers

[winged dome]

Its that simple folks

[split dove]

but that requires reading comprehension

[untold ingot]

Yeah well that's the accurate information as of yet

[winged dome]

Check the pins in this channel, it literally has all news/updates related to Ark2.
ASA you'll have to dig through the announcements/patch notes but the information is there

[blissful perch]

The fact that they’re separate on steam and I believe gamepass also clarifies. Though ark 2 also isn’t currently listed for PlayStation so maybe that’s less clear

Oh that’s gotta be tilting

The limit I think is 4-5. Pure pain

[fallow niche]

Please move any further comments about ASA to any other channel under the Ark category. Thanks.

You can move on. No ASA content is in this channel.

Once again, this channel is only for Ark 2. ALL pinned messages in this channel are only for Ark 2. Please use the other channels for ASA, such as #general, #ark-survival-ascended, #pve-discussion, or #pvp-discussion.

[mint swan]

Ark 2 what's that ?

[fallow niche]

The sequel to ASE/ASA. Read the pinned messages.

[pure spear]

At this point it is just a myth. Just like how no one believed Elden Ring was ever real before the gameplay announcement.

Wildcard should just keep quiet about ARK 2 and then shadowdrop a gameplay trailer at a major gaming event like summer game's fest or TGA. With a REASONABLE ETA. Aka when the game is like 95% done.

[kind gulch]

ark 2 is literally a seperate game on steam

[mint swan]

I thought survival ascended was Ark 2 🐴

[winged dome]

You thought wrong

[chrome wasp]

Same lol, i thought that for a good amount of time and that vin diesel was just for a cinematic trailer for as ascended

[glad frost]

Reading-skill issue

[lucid moss]

.

[floral lichen]

Never

[sly pawn]

No they announced that it will release after ww3

[forest gale]

dang

[abstract birch]

So 2077 is a reasonable release date cause no game of them ever has been 95% finished, not even ASE XDDD

[burnt flume]

I want to see in ark 2

[weary hull]

ark II idea :
sexual dimorphism
blind , deaf creature ,anosmia (removed smells) thirst for dino heat and status effect genetics inbreed disease/mutation
race character (black,asian/south asian ,white/east european,arabics/persian,indian) customisation for survivor blood type parasite disease differant way of locomotion depending on the character healths status

[pale venture]

The mutation system could use a revamp

[untold ingot]

Huh

[winged dome]

Like a complete removal 🙏

[pale venture]

I want mutations that aren’t just minor stat changes and are unique

[void bone]

Ark 2 will come out in 2036

We will get Half-life 3 before Ark 2

By how many years 💀

[rapid flame]

Is ark 2 ever coming to ps4

[stray elm]

No

[rapid flame]

Ps5?

[stray elm]

Unconfirmed

[rapid flame]

Ur kidding me

Y not

[solar turtle]

No, Xbox/Microsoft/maybe steam exclusive

[rapid flame]

Ohhhh hell nah

[solar turtle]

Same thing as horizons is ps5 exclusive lol

[devout lodge]

Ps5 has its exclusives xbox has theirs

[molten canyon]

Ps5 will get it they won’t wanna lose 10s of millions, plus PlayStation has already had the ‘ark’ game

[winged dome]

Back to General with you please

[untold ingot]

Ark2 is already listed on steam

[astral token]

It’ll come to PS5 eventually (in future), at launch it’ll be Xbox/PC only is what I gather from the term “launch exclusive”

[ocean socket]

is ark 2 just ascended

[split dove]

no you goofy ass

[ocean socket]

ok

[split dove]

Ark 2 will only come to PC and Xbox series x/s as a launch exclusive, and is **currently ** planned for a end of 2024 release window

[gusty temple]

Given ark's track record, I think we can all agree it’s gonna be delayed like 2 years

[sick raft]

This game does not exist

[torn spade]

Not yet.

[fair hollow]

Is this game ever coming out?

[torn spade]

Obviously, or else this channel wouldn't exist anymore-

[vital cloak]

br pt?

[harsh spear]

ark should steal the path finding code from palworld. its much better

[fast anvil]

palworld stealing ark2's thunder? rips

[stray elm]

ARK 2 never really had any thunder so far.

[fast anvil]

i hope ark2 comes out soon...really have cravings and withdrawals

[stray elm]

Seeing how they're putting most development into ASA. I'm betting it'll unironically be delayed until 2025.

Cause we have a whole year roadmap for ASA. (longer if we include delays)
So we're honestly most likely not going to see it until somewhere in 2025 or 2026.
We'll see, but I don't think it'd be smart for Wildcard and Grovestreet stretching their teams thin between two games, when they could focus on one project at a time. (especially after the last time they did this. I.E ATLAS)

[glad frost]

Ah, you mean the last time they introduced souls like combat in a game 😏
A man of culture I see

[stray elm]

Well, that too. But I meant 'last time they stretched their team thin with two projects at once'

[split hedge]

Didn't ark 2 get canceled?

[stray elm]

No

[split hedge]

Why wasn't it on the roadmap then

[stray elm]

Cause the roadmap was specifically for ASA.

Also, this channel wouldn't exist anymore if it was canceled.

[vital jetty]

Technically not true, if they just decided not to tell anyone it was canceled (not that I think it is...Yet) 😉

[split hedge]

It's for the franchise not Asa, they have the show their doing and snail games have ark 2 on it. so no its not for Asa only for the entire thing.

I have a picture on my phone still before they deleted it as well

[fallow niche]

The only official roadmap that was shared by WC was for ASA. The other was fanmade. The official is pinned in #general and is in the Extra Life recap.

[split hedge]

I guess I'm confused to why they posted it on the steam page didn't even say fan made

And snail games as well posted a whole different one because they don't communicate ig

I can send you a screnshot I have before it was deleted my friend not trying to be rude I'm just confused is all thanks

[astral token]

There was never a roadmap on the Steam page

[split hedge]

Ops wrong person

[split hedge]

Want a screenshot?

[astral token]

Try me

[split hedge]

Did

[astral token]

Yeaa that’s the official one, where’s ARK II on it?

[split hedge]

I said the snail games version my friend they posted it on their website

[astral token]

Probably incorrect.

[split hedge]

There was a controversy over it I can't say I seen it but I follow alot of people who have and at the end of it. It showed ark2

And on the one I showed u have the animated series on it. If it was for Asa why would that be there is my point

I'm just asking if ark 2 is canceled I'm sorry if it sounds like I'm being a rude or anything just asking

[split dove]

Ark 2 isn't cancelled

[fallow niche]

Ark2 has not been canceled.

[serene onyx]

Ark 2 2026?

[fallow niche]

The roadmap that Wildcard posted is the official roadmap, regardless of what SG posted.

[split hedge]

2027 if so lol

[split hedge]

I know I'm just saying what I saw

[split dove]

officially Ark 2 is slated for the end of 2024 right now

[serene onyx]

Cause the last map releases near the end of 2025 if im correct

Or was it 2024 i forgot

[split hedge]

Ark definitely not coming out by 2024

2025 u right

If ark is a thing it will be out maybe 2027

[serene onyx]

Ight yeah then ark 2 might be delayed more years

[split hedge]

Because Asa was pushed to be out and scorched earth was supposed to be out last month lol

I bet my nuts that ark 2 is gonna be delayed

[serene onyx]

Kinda like that tho, gave me more time to finish the island (i am slow when beating ark games)

[astral token]

It’s allg

[split hedge]

I just play for the pvp part lol but it gives me time to enjoy Asa and not buying another broken 60$ game

[serene onyx]

I play single player trying to play on a server now with a couple people tho

[split hedge]

Gl my friend

[fallow niche]

Can move to #ark-survival-ascended now if you're not taking about Ark2 specifically.

[stray elm]

Incorrect.
TAS is part of ASA, as it's tied to ARK-1's story.

[split hedge]

Ark 2 is as well then

It's apart of the story and it's not on there

[stray elm]

ARK-2 isn't part of ARK-1's story.
While yes, a sequel. The description makes it out that the game will barely have anything to do with ARK-1's story.
Akin to how Genesis 1-2 barely had anything to do with The Island-Extinction storyline.

[split hedge]

True I guess idk I'm just curious if it's canceled or not

Is all thanks

[stray elm]

If it was, there'd be no reasoning to have this channel anymore.
Now the game is 100% in development hell. And will probably suffer due to it.

[split hedge]

I mean they never said it your right on that my friend and that's the point if u take a look into the roadmap all the dlcs take up the time for ark 2 development

So maybe they might be thinking of canceling it is my point ig

[stray elm]

Yep.
It'll be most likely delayed till 2025 or 2026.

Cause Wildcard is a lot more better at delaying then canceling projects.

[split hedge]

Ig that's true lol

[vital jetty]

Nah, they accidently got the numbers flipped around. Ark 2 in 4202

[dim plinth]

will i see ark2 in my lifetime

hopefully not

[edgy shoal]

lolk

[tacit oak]

Depends on how much delay

[dim plinth]

ill do 5 more years

[mint swan]

Yes I don't think it is going to come out at the end of this year

They still have to release all the maps for ASA

[tardy spruce]

I was thinking 2030

Also has anyone noticed that ark 2 soundtrack is on Gareth Coker’s YouTube

[mint swan]

He has music for ASA not Ark 2

[winged dome]

He has music for Ark2, just not a lot released yet

[split dove]

Only the main theme and 1 other atm

[rancid violet]

Arreglen el puto juego

[abstract birch]

Cause it is Gareth and there is at least one person that never dissappoints in Ark, Gareth.

[fiery steeple]

Based off that statement and pushed out dead lines. I think it's safe to say that 2 months later for each map/major update isn't too far off. Their road map shows about 12 major things.

With this estimated information i don't think it's too outlandish to say they likely won't reach the end of the road map for atleast 2 years.

Having said that, seeing how the landscape is changing so drastically for survival games at the moment, it's hard to say they will even survive that long without a new product/income

ark is their main income and its being spread across all of their projects. Palworld has really taken off and either Nintendo is gonna succeed in a lawsuit, and palworld gets shutdown for another revision (seeing how wildly successful it was) or they fail, and Nintendo instead finally decides to be competitive (along with everyone else and fortnite) to make a survival game that competes with ark.

Anyway tldr wc needs to be in business long enough to finish it lol

[untold ingot]

I mean it's pretty hard to say that ark2 development will be pushed back because Asa hasn't released more free maps

[vital jetty]

On that last end, really doesn't look good for WC when Palworld devs have already solved one of the major Mesh exploits and now made it 99.99% impossible to do via riding a pal (I'm sure there's an edge case somewhere out there).

And they don't even have PvP up yet, but still fixed it..

Something WC hasn't been able to manage for a decade, and I doubt will be fixed in Ark 2.

They really need to get into gear for ASA and show they can actually fix and address these issues, or Ark 2 will be DOA at best when it launches.

[untold ingot]

This is news to me, last I heard pal world was easy to mesh

[winged dome]

So easy, it happens half the time I log in without trying 😂

[vital jetty]

Like I said, they fixed a specific way to mesh (involving the use of pals), and multiple people have tried to mesh that way now in multiple areas, and can no longer force themselves into the mesh through that method.
That very method is still possible in ASA.

[vital jetty]

is that on a dedicated or official though?

[winged dome]

Unofficial

[blissful perch]

Tbh not having official servers be super moderated or pvp has been a boon to Palworld imo. The devs can focus on developing rather than administrating

[vital jetty]

Dedi's have known issues right now. Like if you have the resources on officials your pals won't starve and what not, but on dedi's if no one is around to render, they just get stuck and stand in place, which is why they become depressed and starve to unconsciousness.

[vital jetty]

You could argue the same for WC in the beginning and they did next to nothing with that time.

Also Moderator teams tend to NOT be actual Devs, and if they are, they aren't part of the main group.

[winged dome]

ok

👀 Me searching for where I asked 👀

[vital jetty]

That includes the area around you not being loaded in, until you load, and hence why you fall through the mesh. It isn't an issue on Officials or SP. Sorry, figured you'd have put two and two together.

[winged dome]

👀 As did I, but apparently not 👀

[vital jetty]

TBF I did mean to put it in my original @ you, but I'm being distracted by carnival clown music being on full blast next door because the workers listen to that for fun lmfao.

[winged dome]

Bruh take the hint, I don't care

[vital jetty]

Then why enter yourself into the discussion directly to what I said? 🙂
seems like you do care.

[winged dome]

Because sometimes a comment made out of jest is just that - not a request for an amateur dissertation on the nature of game design

[vital jetty]

When did I do that? The Devs themselves stated the issue with Dedicated servers, and I passed that knowledge to you lmao.
If you don't want to be responded to, don't make a comment on what I said, in jest or not. That simple 😉

[winged dome]

relevant

[vital jetty]

Just say you can't refute my point and move on. it's okay. It happenes.

[blissful perch]

Tbh this is in ark too and it’s super annoying

[vital jetty]

Is it? I only played on a few dedicateds* in ark and didn't notice it on them. Not surprising though.

[blissful perch]

It’s less a worry about personnel and more a worry that resources that have to be divided between hosting and managing servers vs development time are being imo skewed away from development (for ark)

But you’ve heard my official stance for years. Won’t bother you with a repeat 😅

[vital jetty]

Fair. unsure how it works on that side of things to know if it does or not, but can see the logic in it doing just that.

[blissful perch]

I do think palworld is a wake up call moment for survival games though. I’m curious if it does squat for ark but I also know WC is watching

[vital jetty]

I don't think Palwords is yet, I was just pointing out they did something Ark hasn't managed to in years, and there's a few survival games out right now, and potentially coming out this year that might change the landscape of survival games as they are.

While they might not be direct competitors to WC and Ark, they could still open the eyes of people and realize they're able to address issues that WC hasn't been able to for years, making the fanbase expect those at minimum from WC going forward.

[blissful perch]

That’s more my point here - it’s a wake up call in that the things they’ve done (primarily PvE focus, very light focus on officials, a stronger “permanent” progression system”, a manageable automation system with more deep rpg elements than ark for example, etc) are effective in some capacity and that players are still interested in the survival genre

I suspect the direct competition is mild to ark, but I do think a lot of design choices made would benefit ark. And the similarities to ark are hard to miss lol

[vital jetty]

and while not perfect, I 100% prefer their way of breeding lol. If ark 2 is more mutations breeding i 100% won't be playing it. I already plan on not until I see a lot of gameplay, but if I see that in game again I'm not even gonna bother watching gameplay lol.

[untold ingot]

Isn't theirs just trait farming?

Ase and Asa breeding does leave a lot to be desired, but it does add some longevity to the game, which isn't necessarily a bad thing

Trait farming in games generally turns out to be 1 or 2 good traits with 500 to sort through, so it's just as tedious with no long term benefit

[vital jetty]

Yeah. and aside from breeding, you can merge alike pals into 1 (needing more of that pal each time) to increase it's stats, or take it to a statue and use a resource found to make THAT specific pal stronger, whether that be HP/def/dmg etc.

I did say it isn't perfect, but depending on whether you want it to be a worker/fighter, you "farm" for different things. Definitely something I hope they expand on though and improve eventually.

[untold ingot]

Interesting. So similar to mutagen, but stat specific?

[vital jetty]

Correct. And each time it's upgraded it requires more, and eventually even stronger versions rather than just the basic resource.

It isn't perfect by any means, but it is nice. And since it doesn't apply to EVERY pal by doing it, it means you have to pick and choose in terms of which you're going to make a lot stronger, rather than being able to field 5000 of them that strong.

I think that system is more enjoyable (again with some issues) than what we have in ark, and hope ark 2 at least goes more that route than breeding 150000 mutations.

[untold ingot]

Does it work long term, or is there an easy cap to hit for that

[fair hollow]

so when is Ark 2 coming out?'

[midnight halo]

its cancled bud

[untold ingot]

If I was wc I would be hesitant to change the breeding methodology for ark too drastically, but it does need some overhaul to make it more engaging and interesting

Whether that is through more player interaction, or through a more biological approach to breeding is hard to say which would be better

But if x amount of resource max y creature z strong, then duping is going to be a serious problem for pal world pvp, and ark2 if that system comes along with it

[midnight halo]

iv found a game braking exploit but i dont know how to contact ced

i can get admin/creative on any server

[untold ingot]

Funny, because ark2 doesn't have servers

[midnight halo]

nooo not for ark 2 for ASA

[untold ingot]

Then take it to the right channel

[midnight halo]

effort

[split dove]

current ETA is end of 2024, but it's likely to change

[vital jetty]

with how many posts you've done here you could already be in the correct channel lol.

[vital jetty]

Yeah it isn't perfect and could use some work. I don't think WC should do an exact copy or anything, but more so look at that pathway of progression, Whether that be more akin to "the more you use THIS dino the better it is", as apposed to breeding being the main "mechanic" for years to make them stronger.

It's not an actual fun mechanic IMO. At least not in its current state.

[untold ingot]

Fair

I do think ark needs to have traits for specific dinos and types of dinos

It probably wouldn't even be that hard to code in

[winged dome]

Kinda already does for some. Weight reductions on resources, saddles acting as crafting structures, damage reflect, ect

[blissful perch]

You can say terribly unfun. That's what it is lol. The only fun part is the stats you get when it's over

[split dove]

despair simulator

[blissful perch]

Kinda unreal how hilariously miserable it is to have a system of mostly sorting crypods and tames that sit around your base...and task people with doing that for months or years of their lives in a videogame that is meant to entertain

[winged dome]

Endless struggle for

beeg numbies

[split dove]

but what about the

beeg timesink

[blissful perch]

at least palworld asks you to explore, gather pals, etc to make best use of their post game system (much as I dislike the post game RPG "get the perfect stats and skills" grind, that is a staple for the genre)

[untold ingot]

Something along those lines. But I think it should be more variable and varied

[vital jetty]

And then if you're specifically only mutation breeding, none of the 100+ dinos popped have the stat, so you CULL them, and have to wait out the breed timer.

It's just a way to arbitruarily make the game "longer" lol.

[blissful perch]

you are extremely correct

[split dove]

seeing as players characters are getting skill trees in Ark 2, the breeding could give dinos skill trees

i just hate mutations and afk breed

[blissful perch]

I'm open and flexible for what ark 2 breeding entails. But for the love of the lord it has to respect people's irl time and it has to be something engaging

[split dove]

even default rates for breeding should be way turned down compared to current default

who tf wants to wait 15 hours for a new egg and incubate it for 3 days?

[blissful perch]

there are a LOT of issues with the way breeding works - starting with the stupid amount of spam and the absurd cooldowns/hard timers

[untold ingot]

Well, the issue is making it balance. Ark is designed to be long term. Every time rates get boosted with the current system things get absurdly strong absurdly fast

[vital jetty]

Remember when Rex's took like 12-14 hours to tame on original 1x, and how long things took to raise back then? lmfao.

[split dove]

vietnam flashbacks

[blissful perch]

This point is why rates are only part of the problem. The actual problem is that ark’s content is shallow without these timers and sluggish rates

[vital jetty]

Ye. Hopefully ark 2 has something more akin to resources you can only get via dungeons/bosses with actual ENGAGING mechanics/combat etc. Rather than PURELY being a stat check.

[blissful perch]

What SHOULD be time consuming in a game is actually going out and doing things. Adding shiny creatures instead of mutations is an objectively superior method to breeding as an example. People can spend tons of hours actually seeking and achieving things based on their skill + effort/time sink

[vital jetty]

I'd rather that be the content that keeps me hooked for years over breeding simulator

[blissful perch]

God this is the dream though, can’t deny that

[vital jetty]

I'm definitely not holding my breath or getting my hopes up. I know they'll come crashing down upon ark 2's release xD

[untold ingot]

I mean, reasonable expectations

[blissful perch]

For all we know, ark 2 doesn’t have breeding at all

[untold ingot]

If it doesn't it'll be a massive flop

[blissful perch]

I think it would cement that ark 2 is ark the series not a direct copy of ark 1

Sometimes a sequel does eject a good swath of mechanics from the older game though to try new ones out. It really could be anything

[untold ingot]

Ark without breeding would be like Pokémon without Pokémon lol, it's something expected by the ip

An overhaul yes, a removal, no

[blissful perch]

That’s a mildly humorous take given how inaccurate that is. The pokemon analogy would be like having pokemon without mega evolution or dynamax. Which is consistently done

Breeding is a mechanic, possibly even a core mechanic to ark 1, but not a core identity of ark. It’s an error imo to conflate the two

[untold ingot]

It's a core mechanic. Removing it because 2 or 3 people in an ark2 chat don't like it would be a dumb move on wcs part

[vital jetty]

Yeah, I'd say the core identity of ark is tamable creatures and base building. I don't even think breeding was initially in the game, though it's been so long I don't even remember now lol.

[blissful perch]

Breeding was not in ark at the start, your memory is correct. It was added in phases

[split dove]

iirc it was added early on

[untold ingot]

It wasn't. But neither were bosses

Or tek. And you have probably seen how up in arms people are about the possibility of tek not being in the game

[vital jetty]

No, but everything needs an endgame in some form.

And there are just as many people excited for no tek lol.

[blissful perch]

Bosses were added prior to breeding however (not like it matters for the discussion)

[untold ingot]

Breeding has been a core mechanic to the game for longer than most people have played the game

[blissful perch]

Fully and firmly agree. WC agrees too, and you can SEE that survival and taming are the core identity of ark through promotional content

[vital jetty]

If WC only wanted to appease those who are happy with ASE/ASA, they'd be keeping in Tek. It's clear Ark 2 is meant to appeal to different people.

I'm not saying breeding won't be in the game, but when it's clear they aren't trying to appeal to the same people who are in love with every ASE/ASA mechanic, you also can't take it off the table.

[blissful perch]

Nowhere in the main promotional videos are there featured mentions of mutations, breeding bases, or even breeding itself

[untold ingot]

We have had this argument numerous times, and it's clear that neither of us is changing our minds on it.

[untold ingot]

And while this is true, they are already changing the endgame items and the combat style. It is not likely that they are changing everything. I would prefer an overhaul rather than a removal of mechanics like breeding

I see it as falling under the same category of taming and building, it needs and overhaul, not a removal

[blissful perch]

I can’t deny all of ark 1 mechanics need an overhaul in ark 2, so that’s fair. But I also do want to again stress that the conceptual design identity of ark, which hangs above the mechanics that govern ark 1, really seems to include surviving in a world with tamable creatures and not a whole heck of a lot else

It just means there’s a big fat unknown next to what mechanics carry over, get overhauled, or get scrapped/replaced

[untold ingot]

Well. If you look at the promotions for ark2, none of it say surviving either

My point is that it wouldnt be wise to change everything about ark moving forward. Given that there is already a huge reputational issue with the ark ip in the first place. Removing a lot of core mechanics will lose the current playerbase, and it won't necessarily gather a new one

Reference being atlas, pixark, dark and light etc.

[stray elm]

'Survive the past. Tame the future'

The second ARK 2 trailer does state this at the end.

[split dove]

also the first sentence on the steam page under ''about this game''

[untold ingot]

Lol, I missed that 😂

Either way, it's pretty likely that breeding will be a thing

[stray elm]

If we're also counting Extra Life as 'promotion' Jesse did state how the survival mechanics will go.
Which is to say they're dumbing it down....so....that kind of actually defeats the purpose of the saying.

[untold ingot]

I mean tbf. Ark survival mechanics consisted of eat food, drink water, poop on command. It wasn't really in depth to begin with

[split dove]

can't deny that

[stray elm]

Also, while I get Shifter's point of ARK 2 appealing to a new audiance. The reality is that unless they remove taming entirely, everyone is going to compare it to Palworld/Pokemon.
Both are creature capturing simulators. And to a degree that's where most taming simulator games like ARK most likely got their inspiration from.
So new fans are going to be comparing the two games, even if it's subconsciously.
And one of the big mechanics in Pokemon is breeding. If I recall, that's the only way to get stronger Pokemons outside of collecting a new species that's stronger.
So if ARK 2 doesn't have breeding. Why would a new audience bother playing it when they could play something else that has better mechanics towards creatures then one that wants to more focus on souls-like combat?

[blissful perch]

Pokemon breeding, to be fair, is for a very small level of competitive improvement. It’s not essential for most casual players…a big difference from ark

[blissful perch]

99% sure this refers to the complexity of the eat/drink system, a direction that many complex survival games have taken to avoid people being constantly annoyed by vitamins and other subsystems that just promote tedium

The goal of ark’s promotion, and it seems the same for ark 2, is to literally survive in a hostile environment. Seems survival game to me if that’s the case. Palworld is much more rpg than ark, but blends in the survival elements, and pokemon is a staple of the rpg genre

Ark 2 could just as easily make breeding more complex, lean into the rpg, and make the game about collecting creatures and unique stats/abilities - but I’ve not seen much that supports this being the direction taken anymore than I’ve seen information that supports the rpg is entirely vanishing

[untold ingot]

Imo breeding should be for a 10 or 20% improvement

[blissful perch]

That would be the right direction should the change from ark 1 be minimal

[untold ingot]

Thst and the addition of breeable traits or a genome structure would be epic

[blissful perch]

I do think there’s market for an ark game that’s just a creature collector. Remove or gut most of the material grinding and just focus on collecting and breeding creatures

[vital jetty]

I didn't watch this last Extra life, but I could have sworn somewhere they more so stated their options were to either double down on survival, or double down on the combat mechanics, and they chose combat.

[untold ingot]

In either case, I don't think ark needs to lean more on the rpg aspect, because it does rely on player player interaction

[stray elm]

It was 2022's stream.
And it was in their Twitch stream, I forgor. It wasn't Extra Life

[blissful perch]

I think that’s the stream they correctly noted atlas had horrible vitamin and aging survival mechanics and opted for simple survival mechanics in favor of surviving as the primary mechanic (via combat etc)

[blissful perch]

The rpg aspects right now in ark would need an overhaul to do even what you stated with genetics and traits. Those are hallmarks for creature rpgs

[vital jetty]

I think it's the right choice for a game like ark anyhow. survival aspect in terms of managing food/water was always more of an annoyance than* a core gameplay aspect.

[blissful perch]

The focus for ark is the creatures and imo anything beyond the bare minimum of player heath/food/water mechanics only serves to distract from that

[stray elm]

That's fair.

[vital jetty]

I just hope Rex is actually the "apex" creature in terms of what was brought over from the station, and no gigas. (obviously can be an apex creature on Arat itself that can contend and I'd be happy).

[blissful perch]

The giga was one of the top five most “relic” creatures in terms of function at the end of ASE

[vital jetty]

always find it funny they use Rex in features of the game yet they're not actually all that great aside from using them to tek down bases lmfao.

[blissful perch]

I find the disconnect between promotional material and actual gameplay to be really telling

[stray elm]

Carchar is more badass anyway.

[blissful perch]

It’s literally TLC giga so I’d hope so lol

[stray elm]

"we're not going to make the Carchar better then the Giga"
-Proceeds to make it better then a Giga in every way.

[blissful perch]

They have to. Mutations led to WC being forced to power creep in a survival game of all things

[vital jetty]

I mean they technicallyweren't wrong in ASE. THere was no way the carchar was catching up to the giga lines lol

[stray elm]

That's true.

[blissful perch]

Nobody uses new creatures because of the lines not existing unless said new creatures are way stronger than anything that exists. Thus begins an arms race

[stray elm]

Though in ASA, since they came out at the same time. There's really no reason to tame Giga's unless you have to.

[blissful perch]

The meta has a chance to permanently adjust when a new game comes out, but imo the somewhat obvious flaw here is that the creature meta in a game about taming wildlife is insanely calcified based on breeding existing stuff rather than seeking and taming creatures

Hence my earlier point about shiny creatures. You’d think in a game like ark where taming is a huge focus you’d see something like that at least talked about…but taming is basically assumed to be an early game thing you do as rarely as possible before you breed

[untold ingot]

There are a lot of ways to make it less passive. Including a need for fresh dinos to keep a line from getting negative traits/stats

[blissful perch]

I agree there’s multiple solutions up and down the “radical” spectrum on this one

[untold ingot]

The biggest issue imo is just the need for mass production of tames to progress. To be able to do some of the bosses you needed a lot of tames strong enough. In this case the fix would be changing combat style for dinos to make it more skill based and less stat based

[blissful perch]

If combat is stats over skills again, ark 2 is toast

I wouldn’t mind a world where story bosses were 1 player 1 tame (some bosses for smaller tames and others for larger tames to promote some element of diversity). Wouldn’t need to spam produce tames in such a world

[untold ingot]

I am of the same opinion honestly. I think that breeding should be a thing, but that beating bosses has the option of adding new traits to donos

[mint swan]

So it never realeases lol same with the animated series

[unique berry]

nah not good, people completly primlock servers, let us breed atleast

[untold ingot]

This is ark2, not Asa. There is no telling that the cave meta will even apply

[slender escarp]

I'm so over ASA at the moment 😔 like why remake the entire game, that is also broken? I think most of us just wanted a new map with new dinos or something.
Would like to know an estimate for Ark2 if it's going to release? That would be nice.

[split dove]

current ETA is end of 2024 for now

[slender escarp]

I wish they would work more on ark2 instead of asa because it's just delaying it. So many people are leaving asa like only 1/4 of people are still playing after palworld release. That's just hoping ark2 is better than asa at all. I think once it releases I'm going to wait for reviews before even purchasing it, wasted money with asa

[split dove]

iirc they got 2 teams working individually on both games, Asa splitting the team between both projects did slow down ark 2's development though. Asa roadmap delays can mean they pull some people from Ark 2's dev team to help the Asa dev team, but it might also not affect Ark 2's development team at all besides learning how to better utilize Unreal Engine 5 on Ark 2 from trial and error in Asa.

[chrome pawn]

Lf a partner in asa I don’t care what age just looking for company

[long sparrow]

#1110949794907684965 this is for ark 2 not ASA or looking for groups.

[swift hound]

I think the original plan for this relied heavily on large tribes of players with several alliances...all doing boss together.

[untold ingot]

And yet the maximum number of players and tames was 10 and 20 respectively. That doesn't should like large numbers of alliances, it sounds like a small number

[mint swan]

With all this new news about xbox i have a really good feeling that Ark2 will release on all platforms day1 say good bye time Exclusive 😁👍

[split dove]

nope, it's gonna be a launch exclusive for PC and Xbox series x/s. Wildcard and Xbox already signed a exclusivity deal for Ark 2 years ago.

ARK 2 will launch simultaneously on Steam Early Access and as a console launch exclusive for Xbox Series X|S and with Xbox and PC Game Pass on Game Preview.

[blissful perch]

Me waiting for PlayStation players to comment on their own timed exclusives being stupid: 🪦👴

[split dove]

won't happen gramps 👴

[ancient thunder]

Will vin diesel play ark 2

Has vin diesel played ark

So many questions

[winged dome]

He has played Ark, dunno how much but I remember an interview said he was pretty avid. DnD too

[frosty vine]

why no ark 2? why would wild card take it away from us?

[frosty vine]

unless it is gonna stay. i heard somewhere its not gonna stay though

[tardy spruce]

It’s not gone there just hasn’t been any news in ages

[vale meadow]

yeah they working on ASA now, i wont expect any news till ASA is done or something like that, according to the roadmap, that is late next year

[hearty sleet]

are they going to realese the game this year

or they just gonna delay it just like before

[blissful perch]

We’ll find out together

[hearty sleet]

and if they release it and we will find out its just a shit game like asa

[blissful perch]

*if it’s

Since we really have no idea what ark 2 will be like in practice

[vale meadow]

i dont think ark 2 is coming out this year to be honest

[ripe flicker]

Really excited for the whole aratai stuff

[vale meadow]

yeah i want to see how it gonna be like for sure

[simple idol]

Let's see guys, I'm going to try to explain what I think is happening with Ark from my point of view. I've been playing Ark since early access before you added Scorched and I have NOT bought Ascended.

The main problem, which has been around for a long time, is that neither Studio Wildcard nor SnailGames have any idea how to monetize the game. I think that the development of Ark occurred little by little and at some point, without realizing it, they found themselves involved in a lot of monthly expenses that they could not sustain. Keep in mind that all Wildcard workers must be paid, infrastructure costs, servers, etc. Ark being a survival game, they found that they had the expenses of an MMORPG, but without the income of these. So the first thing they tried was to apply the same thing that these games do, launch expansions, while They were creating some lore that would serve as a common thread. There was also talk of launching Ark2 (We're talking about before they launched Aberration), because the main way to get direct income is the sale of games and sequels. But there was a problem, they had already tried to make a by-product of Ark with Atlas, and it was a complete failure, so they were afraid to invest in a large development that could end the same.

In my opinion, the launch of the expansions was not as successful as expected, since they must not have sold as well as the base game. If you look at the map releases that have been released, you can see a substantial difference between the official ones (following the element line, corruption, etc.) and those that have been released by the community (Ragnarok, Crystal Isles, etc.), where the latter arethat they have more support. And this shows that what people wanted were survival maps similar to the first ones like The Island, but scaled in size and content. But the studio took another path and I think it ended up resulting in more players abandoning Ark.

And I think they realized the latter, since when it came to launching Ascended what they did was try to replicate the original launch. Not only because they released The Island map first, but because they have limited the content to what was there at the beginning (excluding the dinosaurs themselves). Trying to replicate the same experience.

It must be remembered that before launching Ascended, Studio Wildcard already had money problems. The exclusive with Nitrado granted them 4 million dollars,but remember that they already had 1 in debt, that is, they were already losing money instead of gaining it. So they didn't have the option to release it as a free update either (I'm not saying that this seems good to me, and of course charging €40 for an early access is prohibitive). And yet they have not managed to monetize the game. Now they are trying to turn it into some kind of platform where creators can release their own mod games. Something in my opinion quite useless since in the end if the creators can make mods in Ark, they can make their own games with the Unreal Engine 5 and eliminate intermediaries. In short, the situation is worse than they want to make it seem, because if they don't manage to monetize the game and continue working at a loss, you can forget all the promises and release dates, they will end up closing the studio, and it will end up being just a memory.

Thank you for reading the entire message 😄

I used the translator a lot so if you see some mistakes then I'm sorry.

[severe dragon]

I aint readin allat

[untold ingot]

The only dlc that made people leave the game was gen2 lol. And they all came back after the nerfs and fjordur dropping

[serene onyx]

Shorten that down mate or NO ONE is reading it

[untold ingot]

I did, but it doesn't have anything groundbreaking or new in it

Its kind of a generic "ark is going bankrupt" with a few bells and whistles

[serene onyx]

Bruh 😂😭

[untold ingot]

There is a point to be made that snail games stock is at like 88 cents, down from 3 dollars a few years ago, and it's almost continually dropping

[pale venture]

I ain’t reading all that

[topaz orbit]

Simple fix is making Ark 2 a sub, which a lot will pay and money problems are gone. Enter the hate lol. If there is a sub, I would expect wildcard could have better servers in use also as they would have the finances to pay for a better server farm.

[blissful perch]

The other alternative (because I agree with this monetization model for sustainable continuous official server support) is to ofc have official servers for a short time (1-4 years) and then move towards unofficial being the primary hosted format

[fair garnet]

Ark2 is dead. Snail is stripping all of the money from WC. Even the CEO of Snails wife is pulling a 1 million salary to try and grab as much money before the whole thing goes babkrupt

[mint swan]

fr

[untold ingot]

Imagine needing to cope so hard

[topaz orbit]

I honestly wouldnt be surprised. Especially since their main spokesperson Vin Diesel is being investigated.

[fair garnet]

Bet he regrets getting involved in this mess at all

[untold ingot]

He isn't being investigated because of ark lol

[stray elm]

Why?
The investigations are towards himself, not his involvement with Snail/Wildcard.

[fair garnet]

Failed venture he wasted his time on.

[stray elm]

Doesn't really matter if it fails or not. He still probably got paid from them using his face in the trailer, and permission of using his name in advertisements.

If ARK-2 does get canceled. They still 'have' to pay him with any time he invested into the project.

[topaz orbit]

They announced late December it wasn't cancelled. So minor minor hope

[spiral echo]

You guys think ark 2 will ever come out

[stray elm]

Hope?
I hope they put most of the budget towards ASA.

[topaz orbit]

Why? It's a remastered game we have been playing for 7 years. Nothing in the game most haven't achieved yet. Why not look hope for a more refined game with new maps, etc.

[stray elm]

Cause so far, ARK-2 has shown me nothing that makes ARK what it is to me.
Has somewhat butchered a character I like.
And there's no definitive release date yet, as they keep pushing it back years ahead. For all we know, it'll be delayed till 2025 or 2026.
There's also no evidence that it'll be more refined.
ASA was originally promised to be a complete ground-up remake of ASE. Yet there's maaaaaaany bugs that've ported over to ASA. So for all we know, ARK-2 could be building off of a version of ASA.
As for new maps? There's already a planned new paid DLC for ASA that'll include a new map and creatures. So the fact that they're still willing to do this for ASA leads me to think "why can't they just release more paid content for ASA?"

[timber girder]

i hear ark 2 comes out before transfers

[languid hornet]

sounds about right

[stray elm]

The storepage was also posted almost two years ago. So realistically, we have no idea if they're even going with the same systems it originally promised.
While I'm not an expert in the legality of stuff. I believe as long as it wasn't a paid product (preorders and whatnot) then the product can change without facing legal repercussions.
So for all we know, the game could be totally different from what was originally promised.
So what exactly am I suppose to be looking forward towards when all we have are words that can be changed?
Not trying to sound pessimistic (which I'm heavily failing at) but there's really nothing ARK-2 currently offers that would make ASA obsolete for me.

TL;DR no

[untold ingot]

I don't think Ark 2 is supposed to make Asa obsolete. In fact the whole reason for Asa was so that ark2 didn't make ase obsolete

[stray elm]

Right, I know that. But I feel like they kind of shot themselves in the foot with having both ASA and ARK-2.
ARK is pretty well known in the gaming community now a days. But it's a game no one 'wants' to talk about outside of ARK, cause it's seen as a horrible game.
ARK has a decently tight-knitted community. You have to go out of your way to find the 'good' parts of the community that wont gatekeep new players if they defend Wildcard for anything.
With that in mind. A lot of the community is on ASE.
Why? Cause they either don't want to abandon all their progress, or don't want to waste time on a game that doesn't have they content 'they' like.
With ARK-2, there's very little things coming back other then 'dinosaurs' and 'taming.' Outside of those two sharing factors, it's basically a whole separate game.
So why would anyone bother moving to ARK-2 if they can just play ASA, that (at the time ARK-2 comes out) is just a better ASE?
Especially if ARK-2 lacks the content people enjoy. Like Aberration content.

So unless there's a reason to move to ARK-2, like a creature that acts like the Rock Drake but actually works. Or have a Scorched like environment. I don't see many people moving onto ARK-2 if there's a lack of content that people liked from the previous title.

[untold ingot]

Asa is designed to be place for people to play if they don't want to ark2, so they thought about thst possibility

I agree that it has to be different, new and good though

[stray elm]

'Too' new and the already self isolated community will hesitate with it.

[verbal abyss]

It’s never coming out guys

[abstract birch]

IMO they should focus on ASA and put all the effort in it and make it a good game instead of wasting recources in Ark-2.
Most people prefere ASE or ASA anywas (at least that is the ipression I get).
Like Cyberpunk was a mess in the begining but now is a really good game cause the Devs did listen to the players and added a lot of things, ironed out bugs, etc. WC should focus on one thing and not spilt between various project that feel half-hearted and are buggy as hell.

[worthy void]

is ark 2 not ark asa?

[abstract birch]

Nope, Ark 2 is a different game. ASA is a remaster of ASE.

[worthy void]

When is ark 2 coming out?

[runic temple]

SOON!

[pine basin]

Of course they prefer ASE and ASA, because they exist and they can be played. How would you know Ark 2 wouldn't be a success if we have pretty much no information about it?

I'm an old ark player (here since day one) and I'm pretty much done with ASE and ASA (played this one for 600 hours and I can say I'm already done with it).

[worthy void]

soon can be from 1 week to 1 year 😭

[topaz orbit]

Yeah that is my big thing. THey have changed some things for sure, but some of us have 13k hours into ASE and some hours into ASA. Its same game. It would be nice to have a little change, idk what that could be to be honest but a change of scenery doesnt always hurt.

They could legitamtely just do that in the form of maps and such with ASA, but still.

[serene onyx]

Nah for wildcard it can be 1 year to 5 years thats soon for them

[blissful perch]

The big question is “what change is desired by gamers”. For me? Ark 1 has numerous design flaws that can’t be fixed without the rework ark 2 has generally promised. For others, the desire is for more content rather than any substantial change to the formula

I see a change of scenery as an ark 1 DLC. I see ark 2 as an experiment for a new way to experience the survival taming ark 1 pioneered back in 2015

[honest turret]

We don’t want ASA anymore just focus on ARK 2

[unique fable]

ark 2 is going to be single player....... you wont like it

[fallow niche]

Na it won't be. See steam page in pinned messages

[ancient bloom]

You’re being dramatic, it’s literally going to be a single player/coop story driven trash heap of a game

[fallow niche]

Steam page is not being dramatic, chill.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2050420/ARK_2/

Steam

ARK 2

Suddenly awakened on a strange primal world filled with dinosaurs and humans struggling for dominance; you must piece together the history of how you arrived there, team-up with legendary heroes, and confront powerful dark forces seeking to control the fate of all life. Saddle up, and join the definitive next-generation survival experience with ...

Release Date

To be announced

▶ Play video

[ancient bloom]

Go look up what Elden ring says too

[fallow niche]

Have a great day.

[dreamy tusk]

Really really wish they’d drop development of ark 2 and focus all their limited resources on releasing the rest of ASA’s content. Nobody wants to wait 2 years for Gen 2 to release all because of a sequel game that is nothing like the original.

[flint dome]

Yes absolutely true

[blissful perch]

By your logic, nobody wants to buy and play the same exact game again either. Guess we’re both wrong 😔

[topaz orbit]

ONe google search indicates that you are wrong.

[split dove]

but that would require effort and reading comprehension no youtube misinfo vids

[fickle bear]

Gggg

[fallow niche]

@mint swan #1110949794907684965

[flint dome]

they needed quick money because they would have gone bankrupt if not

[mint swan]

Hello

[vale meadow]

hello

[mint swan]

How r u

[untold ingot]

Asa is the most in depth quick money scheme I have ever seen lol

[flint dome]

But i dont blame them! Bc they needed the money.

And i also hope ark will remain much longer

[untold ingot]

I don't think Asa was a scheme to make money. I think it is worth the cost, but some of the implementation could have been better

[stray elm]

They literally admitted that one of the reasons why the free UE5 upgrade was cause they needed money.

[untold ingot]

Yeah, it's a business

I do think if snail wasn't involved it would have been free, because ark funds wouldn't have been wasted as much

[stray elm]

Maybe.
ASA is fundamentally a much different game then ASE is.
Enough that it must've cost a fuck load to make.

[untold ingot]

That's true. But a failed electric vehicle company funded by ark really doesn't help

[astral token]

Nah

A lot of in game (stuff we mostly interact with) ASA is coded very similar to ASE

[drowsy bison]

say when

[median cosmos]

selling all kind of things in small tribes, open dm to know prices

[violet notch]

It's the same game

Most of the things are the same

[dreamy tusk]

I’m happy to buy and play the same game again with updated graphics and added features. It’s a sandbox… with added features. I genuinely don’t know a single person who plays Ark and cares for a sequel that doesn’t offer the same amount of freedom as ASA/E. I just think it’s such a bad idea to be dividing your development team when a game you’ve released already and charged for has a two year roadmap for maps that were already in the first game

[stray elm]

I'm talking about assets. Not the code.

[astral token]

A lot of ASA assets (creatures, foliages) is very similar to ASE

What makes game look sexy is lighting and higher resolution mostly

I won’t deny the game looks sexy

The galli do be looking a bit outdated. But thankfully we got Depths on the job, such a gigachad guy fr

[stray elm]

'Similar' doesn't at all mean 'same.'
Still cost a shit load of cash to make those assets. Which was the entire point of the conversation.

[pine basin]

I usually agree with your statements, but I'm now I bit tired of everyone acting like: WC is good and SG is evil. Everything happening right now, including all the PR mess, is also WC's fault. Also, WC was sold to SG because they messed up in the first place...

Whatever happens to ARK 2 is also WC's fault.

And, of course, By WC I don't mean the devs. I mean people managing the studio (you know who).

[pine basin]

The stakeholders are entitled to do whatever they want with their money. WC kept a lot of this money and they didn't manage it well. In eight years they've spent everything and failed to monetize before the debacle. They knew the paid dlcs weren't enought to keep things going and did nothing.

[glad frost]

Thank you for saying this, in this community they are simply never responsible for anything and they are always the victim of some tyrant or external force

[blissful perch]

WC is simultaneously responsible for their choices and beholden to their parent company who seems to be fairly hands on in decision making. Both can be true

[pine basin]

Everybody agrees SG has it's share of resposibility, but some people act like WC's management isn't also responsible for this mess. Like Jess and Jeremy are the poor victims. They are not.

[blissful perch]

Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren’t. I completely agree there’s a lot of white knighting tho

Im also kinda impressed at how unrepresentative the marketing content is to the actual bulk of your playtime in ark…but the design hasn’t changed in ark 1/ASA. I’ve been holding out hope that it changes for ark 2, but sometimes I do wonder if the right choice is to search for something else

[untold ingot]

Sure. I don't disagree that wc administration does have responsibility. It's an overall kinda messed up situation. But it in no way excuses the way this community in general treats people affiliated with wc. The amount of abuse the devs and moderators go through on literally a daily basis because Asa didn't live up to unrealistic expectations is sickening and quite frankly dispicable. If attempting to remain positive and give people the benefit of the doubt and not completely trash on them is white knighting, then you better believe I will be a white knight for life.

I don't agree with every decision they have made with Asa, particularly remaking ue5 in their game, but it is undeniable that Asa is a better experience overall than ase.

[blissful perch]

I think both you and ca are touching on the weirdly polarizing stances the community has about WC’s culpability…there are fewer people than I’d like who seem to be interested in a nuanced stance. Something that scares me a bit when we as a community are moving with WC into what is hopefully an extension of the ark universe

[untold ingot]

Lol, sure. Expound on a more nuanced stance

I think what you are seeing is more polarizing of your own perspective. Because I literally have not changed either my approach to or speech about wc, snail or ark since I joined this discord.

In fact very few of the regulars still here have changed how they talk about the whole endeavor.

[blissful perch]

I meant the average chatter Raq

If I go to general, on average, people seem pretty polarized. I doubt it’s a profound take, but I figured it’s worth a mention

[languid hornet]

anyone else getting the issue when accessing storage boxes your game crashes, and it jjst happened now when accessing inventory on a tame

[blissful perch]

Not in ark 2 im not

[untold ingot]

Yeah, due to a marketing debacle and constant delays. But since when has that not been the case

[blissful perch]

In the early access days when ark was more of a small team indie project I feel like things were more constructive and nuanced

But admittedly that was a long time ago now

[untold ingot]

Yes welcome to the average gamer in 2024.

[blissful perch]

True…most of my interaction is with older hat gamers who had more passion for cooperation and collaboration than whatever the heck you’d call general chat

[split dove]

ARKham Asylum™️

[blissful perch]

I’m just not sure how WC gets anything productive out of there, but maybe that was never the point

[untold ingot]

They don't really get anything productive out of it

Then again they don't get anything productive here anymore either

[blissful perch]

They haven’t really given us anything here to chew on so that’s not too shocking

[untold ingot]

It's hardly surprising you don't see devs here as often anymore with how they get treated when they do say anything

[blissful perch]

Oh for sure, but reading these chats silently is something I’m certain still occurs (at least this one…idk about general given the volume of content)

[split dove]

only thing you'd get out of reading general chat is iq decrease

[untold ingot]

I don't know why they would pay attention to this channel any more than the others. Nothing valuable has been said here on literally months by anyone

[blissful perch]

Historically though this channel has had a pretty good suite of design conversations without a massive backlog of spammy messages

[untold ingot]

Not really anymore

[blissful perch]

Give me a CC with some ark 2 info and we can kick that right back up 😛

[untold ingot]

It won't return to how it was in its prime though

Because enough people who frequent this channel seem to do it solely to mock others

But you know my take on it, because we have had this discussion before

[blissful perch]

True, though the prime imo was at the very start when we asked some really fun questions with very little information lol. Like what would happen if ark 2 was fully procedural like NMS

I think we were at our most practical though when we had that founders note, and I (as usual) agree that not everyone around has been as open minded as I’d like. But we do have a nice suite of perspectives in the existing regulars

[untold ingot]

There really aren't existing regulars. There are people who complain about Asa and there are people who complain about people complaining about asa

[blissful perch]

True that we’ll prolly have a whole new group of people whenever new news drops because it’s been so long

[untold ingot]

I mean there was a whole knock off Pokémon game with ideas and features to discuss implication for ark2. There isn't a lack of stuff to talk about. There is a lack of desire to talk about it

[winged dome]

Insert bUt ItS nOt ThE sAmE!!!!!1!! comments

[untold ingot]

As I said

Thanks for proving my point

[winged dome]

Its what I do 😂

[mint swan]

will xbss run ark 2?

[blissful perch]

I feel like Palworld and ark 1 share a lot in common, but ark 2 not so much. It’s why I’ve largely stayed quiet about it

[untold ingot]

There is enough difference to discuss implications

[blissful perch]

I usually started the bulk of those design discussions so I suppose I could kick them back up after playing more Palworld. But I’m also not super fond of the late game (not played it myself but so I’ve heard) also being breeding. Better breeding than ark, but still the same egg hatching spam process from what I’ve read

However I THINK that it’s much more optional than in ark 1, so perhaps that’s the compromise for ark 2…lengthy and tedious breeding endgame that’s largely optional to complete the game’s content

[untold ingot]

There are more differences w between the two than just breeding tbf

[blissful perch]

you're welcome to expand on any you want to discuss as they may pertain to ark 2

[autumn vortex]

Coming next Thursday

[cobalt star]

Many of us will not survive to release date of ark 2 or will survive but will be blind from being too old 😄 😄 😄

[astral glacier]

ehrm

[chrome yoke]

Nah we are gamers our conciousness will be uploaded and part of whatever game we choose 😉

[surreal shuttle]

Ark 3: Use a full body replicator to enter a simulation of Ark 3 where you are the actual Bob and have to feel the pain of getting snapped in half by a Rex or torn apart by a Raptor

[cobalt star]

🙂

[arctic galleon]

I don't feel pain

[surreal shuttle]

Cap

[torn flume]

[arctic galleon]

No cap u meant to say

[frigid grail]

What will be the difference btween ark 1 and 2 except for the humanoid npc’s

[winged dome]

Third person only, 'Souls-like' combat, a skill tree, more primitive focus, no/only environmental Tek

[stray elm]

Gameplay-wise, they'll basically be nothing alike.

[winged dome]

Lets wait for Ark2 release first 😂

[untold ledge]

☠

[mint swan]

Pls let ark 2 have custom generated caves

[charred dirge]

will ark 2 have pvp?

[glad frost]

We don’t even know if either Ark2, studio Wild🧢 or Snail Games will exist by when this is supposedly coming out tbh with you

[fallow niche]

Yes. Check the Steam page in the pinned messages.

[blissful perch]

What is a custom generated cave? I know procedural generation and custom made…never heard of custom generated

[stone mason]

Will ark 2?

[winged dome]

Look two messages above yours.

[glad frost]

Some vegan modder made a cave that is not in the base game

[untold ingot]

That's not custom generated. It's custom made

[blissful perch]

That do be sounding custom made

[winged dome]

I'd hazard a guess to say thats probably custom made

[loud star]

Case #41808 @timber prairie has been muted for 2 hours.
Reason: Mass Tagging

[astral token]

…

[tender lichen]

this is a joke, why even have a channel for something that is NEVER coming out, stop acting like you're actually working on this broke game too.

[near cloud]

Stop working on shitty ASA or ARK2 and Revive ASE

[blissful perch]

Ase being dead was the most correct choice. Game couldn’t handle getting any larger or more modern without years of recoding everything anyway

[normal arch]

Ark 2 is available on mobile

[fallow niche]

Ark 2.0 on mobile is not Ark 2, the sequel to Ark Survival Evolved/Ascended.

[sage lynx]

Wrd

[sage lynx]

2032 is my guess 💀

[stray elm]

Realistically speaking, more closer to two years with delays included.

[celest fractal]

guys imagine what ark 100 would be like

[thin flare]

2052 my guess

[thin flare]

imagine what ark 3 would look like

[pale venture]

I’m not a prophet I can’t predict 100000 years into the future

[gentle ferry]

1000 years per game, accurate

[mint swan]

Someone knows if ark 2 is using ark 1 assets for development or they don't use the ark 1 assets?

[blissful perch]

We have nothing for certain either way

[mint swan]

We have trailers though

[untold ingot]

It's safe to say the game is now significantly different from the trailers

[winged dome]

Cinematic trailers show nothing in terms of gameplay

[mint swan]

The trailer uses assets of ark 2 made in game

[winged dome]

In engine isn't quite the same as in game. Plus we have no way of knowing if these assets will be used in Ark2 until we see actual gameplay showing as such

[mint swan]

I meant in engine and a developer told me that the second trailer is literally from the in engine game

[untold ingot]

Yeah, but again, in engine and in game is totally different. Also, those assets were from 2022, it's 2024. Loads has changed for sure

[mint swan]

I don't know if it was in engine or in game this is not the subject the developer just told me that the assets were from the actual in game or in engine gameplay , and last I was talking about if they re used ark 1 assets for ark 2 or not but seeing peoples replies tells me that nobody has the answer

[fallow niche]

All known officially confirmed information is in the pinned messages.

[winged dome]

I thought you said a developer told you they were? 🙃

[untold ingot]

Well, for the trailers they reused a lot of models/sounds from ase. No telling if that'll hold for the final release though

[mint swan]

That's exactly what I said I developer told me that

[lucid berry]

@everyone

Ark 2 Coming In 2025

[winged dome]

[Citation Needed]

[wispy sierra]

Nah, I trust Random Internet Stranger #52785798, they seem chill

[untold ingot]

Which dev?

[glad frost]

Gabe Newell

[hollow flame]

Is Ark 2 coming out 2024

[split dove]

current estimated launch window is end of 2024 for now

[unkempt crow]

Noo😃

[mighty fulcrum]

Bro ark 2 is more of a myth then people playing fairly on official

[gaunt breach]

This is not happening ark 2 will not be made

[sterile matrix]

oky

[fallow niche]

@hollow flame
This channel is only for Ark 2. Please use the other channels for ASA, such as #general, #ark-survival-ascended, #pve-discussion, or #pvp-discussion.

[hollow flame]

sorry didn't realise

[pure spear]

ARK 2 isn't real.

[fallow niche]

@radiant fern Ark 2 has not released.

You can use #1110949794907684965 to find people to play with on Ark Survival Ascended.

[radiant fern]

Thanks all

[bright terrace]

Ark 2 died 2 years ago 😂

[swift mist]

This will never come out

[feral zealot]

last night I had a dream where I played an early demo for ark 2 and it was basically the same as ase/asa but I was stuck in third person (which pissed me off)

[eager bough]

I mean is the state of asa is anything to go off I don’t know if i want to see ark 2 released lol

[unkempt anchor]

Is it true that Ark 2 will launch as an Xbox/PC exclusive? Excluding PlayStation players?

[split dove]

yeah

[dark raptor]

It sounds tome like when new iPhones launch exclusive with AT&T before being available on other networks.

[brave notch]

When is ark 2 releasing?

[glad frost]

Who knows

[uneven atlas]

Pretty sure never lol

[limpid ivy]

So ark 2 won't be on Playstation?

[fallow niche]

Not at launch.

[limpid ivy]

The not buying ship has sailed

[glad frost]

We don’t even know if that game will ever exist, you worry about something that may or may not come in years

[tacit oak]

So before Launch

[narrow seal]

ark2 = Dukenuken forever !

[marble terrace]

When is it coming 👀 🤔

[naive meteor]

Never

[lament frost]

Ark 2 is the new GTA 6... Anounced rather early but released decades later with luck

[mint swan]

I doubt ark 2 will be out this year

[thick swift]

Ark 2 is a bust they are spending so much time on ark ascended, and vin is not a good business partner

That was a mistake

[torpid mesa]

Hi yall, as someone who bought tiny tina’s wonderlands, wwe 2k21, dynasty warriors 9, no man’s sky on release, cyberpunk on release, cod ww2, cod vanguard, fallout 76 on release, and many more crappy games, i can say for certain that ark 2 will probably release late, suck for about 4 years, finally get good, and die soon after. : )

Heres hoping im wrong

[winged dome]

Ark2 is planned to be PvP

[tall imp]

Wildcard ain’t the problem. Snail games

Well. Both kinda are

[fallow niche]

Ark 2 is not canned or shut down. Please read the pinned messages for official information, especially regarding game modes and other content, instead of relying on YouTube or other sources. This channel is not a rant about Snail/WC. Thanks.

[real depot]

So true

[fallow niche]

There are
This channel is only for Ark 2. You can use the other channels for ASA, such as #general, #ark-survival-ascended, #pve-discussion, or #pvp-discussion.

[tacit oak]

Yes, I abs. understand your point, but These Infos just cant be Real. They dont get it to bring out anything on time in Ase and Asa. So how could they bring out Ark 2 this year, if Not even half of the maps will be there in asa? They dont get it to make the exact same game, how should they Update and fix 2 games?

[fallow niche]

They have different teams for different content. They have already said this.

[tacit oak]

Ok, fair point

[mint swan]

Do you think ark 2 will release this year ? It has been postponed too much lol

[mint swan]

And what your talking about? The developers are the same

[fallow niche]

There are different teams within Studio Wildcard that are assigned to different things, the same as every company.

[mint swan]

Ye that's what I said it's still studio wildcard

With different teams I thought you meant different companies

[mint swan]

Also they said they will show gameplay of ark 2 this year

[fallow niche]

Okay, and? I don't know why you're tagging me. If that's what they have planned, that's all the information I would have.

[stray elm]

When did they say they'd show gameplay this year?

[mint swan]

On the community crunch

[stray elm]

On which one, specifically.

[tacit oak]

They told us much 😂

[mint swan]

lol

[stray elm]

I remember they stated that they'll show gameplay the closer we get to release.
But said release date could be delayed till 2025, and with the gameplay with it.

[mint swan]

They said in 2023 that they will show gameplay next year i never heard about being delayed till 2025

[stray elm]

Can you find the crunch where they said that?

[tacit oak]

No, they didnt say they possible delay to 25. WC announces the Delay on 31.12.24 12:99 pm

[mint swan]

Exactly

[stray elm]

Can you rephrase this?

[split dove]

Crunch 355

We sincerely apologize for this delay and genuinely appreciate your understanding. Your support and passion are vital to us, and we will continue to work intensively to deliver the ultimate next-gen dinosaur survival experience. With that in mind, we do not plan to showcase any gameplay/screenshots/videos of ARK 2 this year; however, we intend to keep you informed and engaged in the development process by regularly showcasing more ARK 2 assets in the months ahead, leading to our gameplay reveal next year.

[mint swan]

Thats what im talking about lol

[stray elm]

Interesting.
Welp, they've gone back on what they've promised multiple times through the years. This could be yet another victim.
We'll see when the time comes.

[split dove]

we still got 10 months to see if this is a victim of them going back on what they said

[stray elm]

Well, almost 9 months.

Wait, nope. I'm fucking dumb.

[mint swan]

I really want to see how ark 2 looks like I don't know if it will be very different than ark 1 or not

[stray elm]

You're right, it'd be 10 months.

[split dove]

i already knew /s

[stray elm]

Well, the previous trailers where in-engine. So we'll see how much has changed.

[mint swan]

But trailers and gameplay are so different

[stray elm]

Sure.
But you where saying 'looks'

[mint swan]

Ye and ? The trailers are different than gameplay so I don't think it Will look as good as the trailer

[stray elm]

What I'm saying is that they where confirmed to be in-engine, with possibly the same assets we'll see in the final product.
What we've seen in the trailers, is what we can roughly expect to see in the final product.

[mint swan]

I seen another game with amazing trailer it was comparable to ark 2 trailer and the gameplay looks like shit LOL compared to the trailer

[split dove]

could be the same or it could look better or drasticly different by the time we see gameplay

[stray elm]

It'd be a waste of money if they made a specific model for the Aratai's within only the trailer, then completely rebuild that model from scratch for a video-game, even when they'll roughly would look the same.

[mint swan]

They said the graphics gonna be film level but is it really possible lol ?

[stray elm]

Look at the Matrix demo that came out like two years ago.

[mint swan]

The Matrix looks good but wildcard has enough competence to make film level quality ? hmmm... Idk

[stray elm]

Gonna be honest with you.
By the end of the day, visuals don't matter compared to actual gameplay.
So if they can't deliver on the "film level quality" then I wont care. As the gameplay is more important.

[mint swan]

Yes of course but I also want the visuals to be better than ark 1 Which will be pretty sure

[stray elm]

Like, if they're onpar to ASA's visuals. Then I'd be fine with that.

[split dove]

could potentially be better than ASA's visuals due to more time probably being spent on making Ark 2 compared to ASA

[stray elm]

Funny thing is, we don't know how long ARK-2 has actually been in development for. 🦛
Even though it's been four years since announced, we don't know how much Genesis-2 and ASA has strained their team away from ARK-2.

[mint swan]

2019 beginning of development then idk lol

[stray elm]

I should rephrase.
We don't know how much hours they've actually have dedicated towards ARK-2.
For all we know, this whole time they've only have worked on the most minimalistic stuff for ARK-2, while putting most of their resources towards other projects like ASA.

[mint swan]

Well idk maybe they have dedicated teams for ark2 and dedicated teams for asa so no time wasted

[stray elm]

I don't know man.
They only have roughly around 100 employees. Which is hella small for a studio like ARK that wants to work on two major projects at a time.

Took Bethesda, which has around the same amount of employees yet more funding around five years straight to develop Starfield.
With that being their 'only' game their main team worked on.

[mint swan]

Pallworld game idk if you know the game has 10 employees and in 3 years they made the game lol

[stray elm]

Palworld is also objectively a smaller game than Starfield.
A better game for sure. Just smaller.

[mint swan]

Ark 2 won't be a big game like Starfield though it will be more like pallworld

[stray elm]

Nah.
ASE is more like Palworld with the development, as ASE was also developed by around 10-20 employees and had around a 8 month development. (with possibly crunches)
The amount of promises and changes they want with ARK-2 would take around the same time as Starfield did.
Difference is, Bethesda only had one game to develop at that time. While Wildcard has to juggle with two games now.

[mint swan]

Starfield was launch on early access or not ? And was Starfield the first game they ever made ?

[stray elm]

Wildcard's founders have been in the industry for years longer then Wildcard has existed. So no, not their first game.
(and with how shit and buggy Starfield is. You'd think it did come out in early access.)

[mint swan]

I never played Starfield and you said two times wildcard lol

[stray elm]

And?

[mint swan]

But ark 2 won't be like Starfield , Starfield has a lot of core mechanics ark 2 will be almost the same as ark 1

With bonuses

[stray elm]

ARK-2 is almost nothing like ARK-1 if you've read the storepage.

It's more like Conan Exiles then it is ARK-1.

[mint swan]

Ye you could say this...

[fluid cape]

When are modded servers back?

[stray elm]

Certainly not in the ark-2 channel.

[mint swan]

Lol

[fluid cape]

Lol ops

[mint swan]

I hope Ark 2 release this year

[stray elm]

I don't.
I have no interest in it.

I'd rather them put all of their resources towards ASA.

[frozen lily]

cause its nonexistent and they got no gameplay to show XD

[mint swan]

I'm just interested in ark 2 because I want see better performance I can't even run asa lol only on low which looks like garbage and why you are on ark 2 if you don't care about it lol

[stray elm]

Saw people talking, and wanted to join in.

[winged dome]

Theres hardly anything worth talking about in this Discord anymore, its all just repeated spam, 'When EVO??!?!?', and people not reading pins/announcements

[winged dome]

I hope it doesn't. ASA proved that WC still has a LOT to learn to get coding and UE5 right

[mint swan]

If ark 2 has same performance as asa then nah if the performance is a lot better than I will give it a try the game looks like shit in my pc ase was better

Even on low sometimes it's only 20 fps

[winged dome]

Sounds like you need to upgrade. ASE was pretty demanding, ASA exponentially moreso unless you disable a lot of settings and minimize quality. On max the game is gorgeous. That atleast is one thing WC can do right

[stray elm]

Yeah, I get around 50FPS on my end.

[winged dome]

Unfortunately with awful optimization, even with a NASA-grade PC your framerate will suffer at max

[mint swan]

I could play ase with epic settings and good fps now I'm putting asa on low settings which looks like shit and sometimes the fps is like 20

[mint swan]

Ye how a studio of 100 peoples can do worse than a studio of 10? Ark ascended is the only game that is hard to run for me on my pc

[stray elm]

Cause ASA is generally a more beefy game. Even if it was optimized.