ark-2

[potent hull]

thow will boot leg give us asa trailer soon or more news on asa or no lol

[stray elm]

What?

[fair vessel]

Yo wildcard, we waiting for asa gameplay trailer? Teaser, something. 😆 Oof

[potent hull]

i sad will you be the one to give us asa trailer and asa news lol

[stray elm]

Why would I be the one to give out trailers?

[potent hull]

snail and wild card will not lol

[stray elm]

....What?

[potent hull]

your name is boot leg your going to boot leg asa trailer for us all lol

[stray elm]

[blissful perch]

Free promotional keys tho 👀

[main bane]

will we get to play as vin disel in ark 2

[vital jetty]

From an unofficial, for playing on their server.

Which implies they're paying for it.

Either way it isn't EARLY access for content creators.

[stray elm]

No, he's a story-character/NPC.
We'll still have our own unique abominations.

[stoic niche]

When's ark shut down its servers?

Or are they running up to release date?

[stray elm]

30th

[orchid moth]

When will be told that ASA has been pushed back again?

[marble saddle]

Does anyone know how to use the last saves? Is it gonna be like the dedicated single player files, or do we have to buy server space?

[stray elm]

It wont.
They're kind of hardlocked in releasing it in October now.

[stray elm]

You can use them for single player/dedicated or non dedicated saves.
There's a tutorial in the pins somewhere in #general

[orchid moth]

I doubt that is really true. No pre-orders and no release date close to a month before

[stray elm]

Technically we're still beyond a month before release, as it's not coming till the 'end' of October.
Also, Steam doesn't allow pre-orders for Early-Access titles.
There's also a legal document Snail-Games posted awhile back ago (weeks ago) about Snail x Nitrado deal, and one section basically states "if ASA is released after October, all servers that where going towards ASA will go towards ASE"
Which means they'll reopen the servers for ASE, which would be a very awkward situation. And they'll need to actually buy servers for ASA when that comes out. (the Snail x Nitrado deal is basically allowing Nitrado to be the only server providers players can rent from for ASA, and with this deal Nitrado is giving ARK servers for their official network.)

[orchid moth]

I did say 'close' to a month before. Can't really argue with the other stuff though. Sounds like it's coming 31. october with a shitty forced release rather than another extension? 😦 I'm not one for blind optimism..

[fickle birch]

With this exclusive server hosting agreement does this mean that self hosted servers on personal computers won't be possible anymore?

[stray elm]

No, I believe they stated that this deal wont effect people wanting to run clusters on their own devices.

It's basically just forcing players to go through Nitrado if they wanna 'rent' a server.

[fickle birch]

thats good then. if they stopped personal servers being run from your own devices i think this would kill the game before it began

although forcing players to use just 1 company is a bad choice as it means Nitrado can basicly charge whatever they want for rent these servers out.

[stray elm]

Which is shitty still, as there's plenty of ways they could've done that deal to make it a win-win for everyone.
I.E. Nitrado picks and chooses who can also host, but forces them to be more expensive then Nitrado to make their own servers seem more appealing.

[stray elm]

Yeeeerp

[fickle birch]

forcing someone to be more expensive is kinda price fixing which is a big no no lol.

it tells me that Nitrado don't have confidence in their own server hosting so to get sales they force an exclusivity

[blissful perch]

It tells me nitrado thinks ASA will be popular and wants to cash that check

[fickle birch]

you think it will be that popular?

[stray elm]

Fair on that part.
They could though take a percentage out of any other provider they allow.

[stray elm]

Snail and Wildcard are kind of betting on it.

ARK-2 isn't coming out until another year at the minimal, with possible delays.
ASA is their only major product until then, so it has to be enough to both keep them afloat, and give ARK-2 funding.

[blissful perch]

Closing down ASE official before launching asa official is a pretty confident move. There’s an assumption Asa will at minimum be a semi-revival of current playerbase

[fickle birch]

never played official because i find vanilla ark to boring to play. Modded private servers all the way 🙂

Personally can't see it being as successful as ASE as making it $60 from the off is very steep as your basicly having to trust that devs will hold up what they have said in regards to expansion releases. Now given that they have gone back on and pushed back so many things in the past its a big ask to have us put all that money up front

[blissful perch]

I exclusively play small coop PvE, so this nitrado deal would stink for me - if I played asa on launch, which is unlikely unless I’m blown away

[stray elm]

Keep up to date.

It's 40$ now.

[fickle birch]

oh fair

but even then its rebuying a game we already own lol

[stray elm]

Also, most games are 60$ anyway, shit or not they get money back cause chumps eat it up

[stray elm]

Skyrim Special Edition

Skyrim Anniversary Edition

Want me to list of all of the editions that made Bethesda money?

[fickle birch]

Skyrim special edition was free if you already owned the game

[blissful perch]

Economically idk if it’s “chumps”. It’s just people being willing to pay for something and someone else selling it

[stray elm]

Yep, and Anniversry Edition wasn't, and it still sold.

[blissful perch]

Chumps to me sounds like someone got ripped off. See: loot boxes

[fickle birch]

True but no idea why people are still paying for that game XD

[stray elm]

You're a chump if you pre-order a game that has shown no gameplay at all, and buying from a publisher/studio that is known to make shitty game.
I.E. Pre-ordering an EA game.

[stray elm]

Chumps, that's why.

[fickle birch]

Honestly if they made the base game free if you already owned ASE and just charged for DLC i would be more enclined to re-buy DLC.

[stray elm]

That's a bad idea.

[blissful perch]

People value risk differently - and do have grounds for suit/refund if no product is released

[stray elm]

You do know games cost money to make, correct?
And the base-game of ARK is 60% of the games entire content.

[fickle birch]

well of course i understand they cost money to make. Just saying personally im more likely to pump more money into this game if i had some incentive.

[stray elm]

The issue isn't if it doesn't get released. The issue is the promised game turns out to be dogshit. And people pre-ordered it cause 'cool cinematic trailers' instead of waiting for gameplay, which EA barely does any gameplay footage before launch of a title.

[fickle birch]

I think i'm personally gonna wait untill Ark 2 comes out and try that instead of ASA. As i said i don't play vanilla ark and much prefer modded content which won't be avaliable for some time i wouldn't have thought.

[blissful perch]

That’s called a risk. People invest in speculation all the time

[stray elm]

Good for you. But I don't think the same can be said to most of the community.
I believe most people would rather just buy a one-and-done product instead of having to go through a two-step phase.
And again, the base-game is a solid 60% of the entire games content post-DLC's.
And it's better that it's all in one bundle anyway, since everyone will be equally matched.

[stray elm]

It's a dumb risk no one should bother taking.

[blissful perch]

Idk about that. People taking a lark on games via Kickstarter is how some amazing stuff got started

Not my style, but some people really care that much and should be able to invest as they please (assuming nobody is hard scammed)

[stray elm]

Solid difference between a Kickstarter that has a clean slate of a reputation, versus blindly buying from a publisher that's known to release shit content.

[blissful perch]

Remove the word “shit” and you can see why it’s bought. The reason folks do it is they believe the product will have a quality that suits them

[blissful perch]

The incentives are large for everyone else - cross platform mods, official servers, sotf, new engine, new balance etc. if I wasn’t largely done with ark 1 for a variety of reasons I’d probably have paid just for the new balance and engine

[stray elm]

Again, dumb mentality.
I'm sorry, but after I fell for the clusterfuck that was Mass-Effect: Andromeda for my first ever pre-order, I'm never pre-ordering a game that isn't A: from a reliable studio. B: has shown actual gameplay of the product itself.
"Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me"

[blissful perch]

That’s fine and valid as a personal take

[stray elm]

Should be a objective take.
No one should be fooled into something more then twice by the same thing.
After that, you're kind of asking for whatever bad game you just wasted money on.

Anyway, back to ARK-2

[blissful perch]

I more mean purchasing something speculatively

Which who knows? May be relevant for ark 2 and asa. Since asa may feel like a preorder for some people who anticipate DLCs to be of a certain quality

And I don’t THINK we know anything about ark 2

[stray elm]

We know the two trailers are in-engine, so it's safe to assume that's 'roughly' what we're getting graphically.
But yeah, gameplay wise we have seen nothing.

[blissful perch]

Yep. Which is fine given the lack of available preorder

[stray elm]

Which if they're still going for early-access when ARK-2 finally gets released, we wont get preorders.

Not gonna lie, pre-orders have been a bane in the gaming industry, personally.
They're suppose to 'help fund the developers while they're still developing' but most studios that do pre-orders are major Triple-A studios that already have the funding and know they'll make triple back the amount they spent on the game.

[tropic forge]

well next week they should have a steam page

[stray elm]

Nope, next to the week after at max.

Actually, three weeks at max

Lets say it comes out on the 31st (last day of October) would have to release on the 17th at the latest.

So we'll get the steampage on the 17th or before.

[tropic forge]

i know but if they do that it will make ppl even more doubtful of the product, i will

[blissful perch]

I doubt it’ll matter. As long as it’s up comfortably before launch

[tropic forge]

well if youre pushing everything to the limited that dosent give much trust in your product right???

even more its a early access not a release of complete game

[blissful perch]

But that’s not the limit

Night before release is pushing it…but a couple weeks ahead is pretty standard for advance information

[terse swallow]

I dont get why some ppl think making games doesn't cost any money and are upset because ASA will have a price tag. I for one am super excited to see the "remake" and am willing to support the game developers by buying it.

[blissful perch]

Fox is upset because he doesn’t have full gameplay videos and streams to watch of ASA this weekend. Perhaps understandable because it would be a fun thing to do

[terse swallow]

Even if ASA was an identical game to the original one (with the bugs and all) but with UE5 graphics, I'm still going to buy it for sure.

(Which as I understand it will mostly be, but with minor updates and improvements)

[split dove]

these crunches should indicate what they plan to add or change for launch

[vital jetty]

They're making some huge changes to ark. Read CC355 and 356. They're also having to redo essentially every line of code, and making balance changes to a LOT of cave entrances.

The amount of work being put in makes it costing money make sense.

[stone cedar]

Will ASA work on the steam deck?

[frosty orbit]

ASA should have a shop with some skins

change my mind

But actually could be fun, to have skins for weapons, structures, dinos, saddles in a shop, also could support Wildcard for further development

[eternal wigeon]

U mean, a shop with real money? Cause id agree, but How does that even work is the problem

[nocturne isle]

imagine you could que your official character for a competitive form of sotf or something like mts arena with your level but maybe nothing on you, and you get some sort of little loot box for winning that you get when you spawn back on your server

[frosty orbit]

Yeah a shop with real money, you buy it and then you permanently have it in your inventory

[frosty orbit]

Would be linked to your account ID for example, the skin can't be dropped / shared

[chrome lodge]

Asa is gonna end up like fortnite

[south lance]

ark gulag

all people who die on all servers in a cluster can be redirected to gulag for loot optionally

would be cool

[frosty orbit]

To be honest, I don't mind if they add a shop with skins or even a ''Battlepass'' in which you play on official servers to gain points and then you unlock skins

Or even a loot box system, if it's only skins = who cares

[vital jetty]

I'm only okay with this if it goes towards also hiring and maintaining an ACTIVE Admin team, that can respond faster to reports of cheating, and also have that admin team joining servers at random and checking on players.

If not, then not down for paid skins (of which I'd advocated before, so long as they do the above).

[ripe cedar]

That kind of monetization system is a slippery slope especially with a parent company like snail

[vital jetty]

For loot boxes i agree. paid skins in itself (knowing what you're getting) not so much

[ripe cedar]

Well im saying that once you start with monetization systems that isn’t just buying a game, or the dlc which are basically just buying more game who knows what logic they could take to make the monetization as scummy as possible

[vital jetty]

You're just falling into the slippery slope fallacy.
And it doesn't make sense anyways. If you want them to support the game for years to come, while still having active admins, they need SOME sort of cash flow to support that team + support the servers.

Skin dlcs are the simpliest and easiest ways to support that.

[pine basin]

Yeah, just look to their other games. They didn’t monetize them (they don’t even have DLCs) and they are pretty much dead.

The issue is when the game is pretty much focused on micro transactions

More levels? Buy gold. More weapons? Buy gold.

And, also, unnoficials already showed the best way to monetize Ark. In-game shop and commerce system.

Most unnoficials are kept with donations. And in exchange for the donations they give in-game money for the players to buy stuff from in-game shop

[lime forge]

Yuck p2w

[pine basin]

Not at all

You can win without paying, like most of the players do on unnos

[lime forge]

Bro if you’re giving someone money and they’re giving you in-game items that’s p2w

[pine basin]

To me, pay to win is when we need to pay to get something. But the way unnos do, you can do everything without needing to resort to the in-game shop

[lime forge]

If it’s an option it’s p2w

[pine basin]

The definition is kinda loose, but this way it doesn’t hurt the game IMO

[lime forge]

You can play clash of clans and wait 2 weeks for a building to upgrade. Or you can spend cash and do it instantly. That’s p2w

[winged dome]

I'd be alright with more skins in the game. We know ASA is going to have dedicated slots for skins so you can have a Glider Suit with a Skinned top. But more variety would be nice over the endless list of swimsuits and Hawaiian shirts

[pine basin]

I liked to play on unnos that have shops

[vital jetty]

Don't even need that. Skins work too. Rust has shown this.

Especially when the community makes them. On rust the ones that get chosen, the creator gets a % of the skin sales. Which incentivizes getting creative with skins to get selected.

And Rust has an extremely active Official Moderator team. Some even join unofficial servers and ban players who are hardcore cheating (clearly not an admin using commands). It's a win for all if they do it.

so long as you can't buy actual weapons/dinos etc in the shop, and it's tied directly to skin sales only, there is no down side to it.

[pine basin]

Sure, they just need to balance in a way it won’t hurt the mechanics

[grim kestrel]

Lol no it not pay to win. Just cause there a system that IF you donate we'll thank you for doing so with a few in game items does not make it pay to win.

Most of which that do those in game shop use berrybush seeds which are easy AF to gather for free anyways and the so called shop they put together is all personal preference on rather or not they have anything that someone likes or not.

[lime forge]

100% makes it pay to win.

If buying progress is an option it’s pay to win.

[pine basin]

Exactly. Even officials have that in a way. Just look on eBay and you will find lots of stuff to buy. But WC isn’t getting a penny from it.

[lime forge]

You can’t whale your way around that

[pine basin]

I’ve heard people complaining about new maps dlcs being p2w because they would make things too easy. And adding super op creatures to those new paid maps.

People will always complain

[blissful perch]

P2w is super easy. 1) is money being exchanged for something that markedly increases your progress/performance? If so, yes. P2w

A skin or cosmetics system where you pay for a given skin does neither - so it’s not p2w

[grim kestrel]

No it not. It something that anyone running a full cluster that smart would do especially if it a good cluster that people seem to like, help make sure it stays up.

Rainbow 6 finally toned it back so it not as bad, but that used to be a perfect example of pay to win where you got access to better weapons that someone just playing could never get.

[lime forge]

It is literally the definition of p2w

[vital jetty]

idk how so many people don't realize this and just say skins are P2W because some can "help you blend in better!" lol

[blissful perch]

Idk man. Some people struggle with a lot of things. You’ve seen this chat

[grim kestrel]

Somehow I knew unblocking him was a bad idea >_> Over this guy.

[lime forge]

It doesn’t matter if the cluster is doing it to stay running. Buying progress is the definition of p2w

[blissful perch]

Correct. But skins ≠ progress

[vital jetty]

Who is it? I refuse to ever click show message on blocked people lol

[lime forge]

Lmao. “This guy disagrees with me. Blocked”

[lime forge]

Ye. I’d take skins any day.

[grim kestrel]

I usually do for a few months, then I'll check to see sometimes just to see if they have changed a bit. It Goo this time

[lime forge]

Please keep me blocked next time. I prefer not to interact with children.

[blissful perch]

Nobody should be pitching progress or performance boosting anything for real money in any official ark game. I assume nobody here is doing that?

[vital jetty]

I used to, but then it always leads back to me remembering why I blocked them in the first place, so I'd rather not read something that makes me /want/ to respond. I'll keep my sanity lol

[pine basin]

In that case pretty much all dlc maps are pay to win

[vital jetty]

DLCs add more content to the game. It's entirely different.

[pine basin]

And that content makes things easier

[fluid chasm]

Yep

[vital jetty]

Not always

[blissful perch]

I agree with Berserker, but to a degree you’re also right in that a DLC with transfers back to non-DLC maps creates a P2w scenario

[grim kestrel]

This is more pay to win than anything in unofficial when you can't access them without buying the map lol

[pine basin]

Like: elements on the island are gold, elements on genesis 2 is like sand

[blissful perch]

If transfers blocked new dlc creatures/things on old maps? Money no longer gives you performance or progression over another

[vital jetty]

Element was like sand since Extinction.

[pine basin]

Im not saying it’s p2w. I’m actually saying people can call anything p2w because the definition is kinda loose

[grim kestrel]

I know, I agree with you.

[lime forge]

The definition is not loose. Buying progress is p2w.

[pine basin]

On extinction it was like wood, genesis 2 is on another level 😂

[lime forge]

Buying a giga? P2w.

Buying bps? P2w.

[blissful perch]

It’s also arguable that purchasing the DLC versus using the DLC is different and thus not P2W, but that’s real fuzzy. Buying genesis 2 doesn’t give element or a maewing. Playing it does. But idk…it’s a thin argument

[pine basin]

Buying a map that have exclusive items and creatures, and also have abundance of resources that on other maps are rare, p2w?

It’s a loose definition

[grim kestrel]

What I despised most about Gen2 was the element free tek suit, it should of still required element and they just gave you one to wear.

That single handily killed the trade value of a bunch of dinos due to the fact a fresh spawn could tame anything basically by just hovering around it.

[vital jetty]

Only for a limited time though, and because of a stryder.

You get pure element as well as shards and dust from Ext, and iirc there's always 1-2 element nodes up on the map at any given time.

[pine basin]

Gen 2 made element super cheap

[vital jetty]

The free tek suit was a glorified Hide set. My group made REAL tek suits and barely lost a fight because everyone was using the Fed suit lmao.

[pine basin]

You do, but gen 2 space is on another level of grinding elements

[grim kestrel]

True, at least it would still take something to make the suit run

[vital jetty]

Agreed, but it was also extremely contested. Ext was easier imo to get a foothold and take over compared to Gen 2.

Though I was on a super aggro server, had a lot of element, but also not, due to the constant remaking of things being dropped and the like.

[pine basin]

Even if you needed, it would be like using fiber for that, because you can get lots of elements super easy

[lime forge]

No. That’s new content. They’re not giving you in game items because you bought the dlc. They’re giving you access to it.

[grim kestrel]

I can imagine PvP it didn't effect much, PvE dinos were like clearance items at walmart in terms of value lol

[lime forge]

Which is also not necessary. You don’t need extinction for a tribe mate to bring a mana back for you to breed.

[pine basin]

Fair enough, I guess it depends on the server. I remember it was pretty disputed to do veins and drops on extinction too.

[pine basin]

Im not saying it’s p2w. I’m saying I know people that call it pay to win.

My point is we all have different definition for p2w

[grim kestrel]

Is he still going on about the same topic o.o

[pine basin]

I just want something that can pay their bills and also don’t spoil the game to me

[vital jetty]

We hammered most people who tried contesting our veins when it first dropped, and they quit coming. My friends on other servers (were playing on smalls) had similar findings. Though some of them were on the receiving end lol.

Helps when you have 2-3 of the titans on lock the entire time too. Makes it hard to contest lol.

[pine basin]

New maps never spoiled the game to me. But I’ve also played on servers with shops and it was nice to play on those. With lots admins helping people

[lime forge]

You mean did I answer the question I was asked? Yes. Yes I did.

[pine basin]

If it helps to pay moderators to finish with glitchers/dupers/etc so be it

[blissful perch]

What I’ve been saying all along. Don’t have funds for admins? Official is gonna be another big fat mess

[grim kestrel]

I enjoyed the orbital drops on extinction, except the lower tier just due to dilo always getting stuck somewhere dumb. Hopefully they solve that with ASA extinction

[vital jetty]

I stay away from unofficials. Some have extremely insane shops that ruin the game (imo), others are EXTREMELY sweaty, and others my group was kicked from because we were "too dominant" even though we only ever retaliated lol.

[pine basin]

Unnos aren’t perfect either, but they have some interesting solutions to some of the issues we have on officials

[blissful perch]

Unofficials really would benefit from mods or structures that help them make their vision for ark PvP work without admin action people find dubious

[pine basin]

But yeah, admin abuse is something common

[vital jetty]

I remember one Unofficial we raided a base, thinking nothing of it really, one of the characters from that tribe came over with an admin rifle and destroyed our entire base xD

[pine basin]

They already do that. There are 100s of plugins and mods to help with moderation without needing to be there all the time

[vital jetty]

Rather deal with cheaters at that point, who I can SOMEWHAT defend against unless they're doing the invul glitch (which depending on which was being used had different methods of being stopped).

[grim kestrel]

I wasn't ever a huge fan of the berrybush seeds, I preferred one server in particular I joined where there was no preset shop, owner just held weekly and bi-weekly auctions for the community and all exchanges there were to be in metal ingots.

Independent trades beyond that was between the parties involved. Ingots were the primary currency.

That really what I can't wait to get back to in terms of an RP style cluster in ASA and be able to have that cross play between Xbox, PS, and PC

[pine basin]

Man, I have a feeling they will rethink crossplay eventually 😂

Like they did for SOTF

At least we will see servers dedicated for consoles

[grim kestrel]

All games at this point should be cross play, there no excuse not to imo

[pine basin]

I mean, it’s easier to cheat on PCs

Most console gamers don’t like because of that

[grim kestrel]

That becoming easier to monitor, and the newer consoles do have the ability to use mouse and keyboard now.

[pine basin]

I mean file editing

[grim kestrel]

Rockstar Games has found a way to put a handle on that. You can mod single player, but when you connect to online it does something where it completely reloads most of your files to the way RG intended them to be.

So it possible for companies to learn how to fix that issue.

Most mod menus that go undetected only last for so long, believe the longest one lasted less than year before it got shutdown online on gta

[pine basin]

Im not so sure about that, because GTA Online is full of cheaters

At least it was when I checked

[grim kestrel]

With discord being integrated to PS and Xbox now, yeah I think cross play has no excuse to not exist. Yes the ability to turn it off should be there which in a lot of games it is.

But yeah we should have cross play and individual should be able to go into settings and turn it off if they really want to.

[vital jetty]

I raise you MW2 COD lobbies back in the day, and I believe MW3 as well lol

[desert swallow]

If things are stored and computed on the client people will always find a way to cheat.

[untold ingot]

Internal cheating methods such as ini can be handled with some client side checks, external hacks need a better anticheat

[coral yarrow]

how much longer until ark 2 comes out?

[stray elm]

End of 2024

[coral yarrow]

Alrighty Thanks !

[rancid harness]

"End of 2024" lol

[lavish coral]

The problem is that most of that ini settings shouldn’t have been computed at all but hardcoded into the code, especially if we are talking about a pvp game.

[vital jetty]

Let's hope that's how the INI for ASA and ark 2 will be handled. was one of my major complaints about PvP. You're forced into using INI because EVERY person was, and you're at a significant disadvantage if you aren't using it. Because while you're hiding in in the flora on your screen, all anyone else sees is you prone out in the open.

[lavish coral]

Yeah, My eyes still burn if I think about it. Anyway as today still wonder if ini was an engine limit(I find strange for a game engine to not have a way to select which graphics options you want to read from a plain text file) or was a tech lead choice to not invest time in that.

[untold ingot]

Ini isn't an engine limitation, it was a bit more of a lack of understanding of the engine

The engine has to use ini to interface the game with the hardware, but it shouldn't be user editable

[desert swallow]

You can modify memory, hardcoding wouldn't help. People would find a way.

[vital jetty]

People don't have hard INIs for Rust. The only thing allowing them to see things all over the map is 3rd party cheats, and those still usually don't effect things in regards to how INI can effect things in ark, so it's a lot easier to spot out a cheater on top of it.

[tardy spruce]

You almost always can turn off cross play on console games and as a console game I would be fine playing with pc players even some of you seem to think console players are at a disadvantage, but we are not as most console gamers are used to using controller

[vital jetty]

K&M gives dramatically better "pin point" precision compared to console. Take that from someone who primarily played on console until I was 16-17. Generally can have more items on hotbar, as well as hotbar being easier to navigate.

I think crossplay is great so long as tribes integrate both and it doesn't become a "PC vs console" war.

[tardy spruce]

Well I used to play on pc but know prefer console due to being able to switch through hot bar faster and other small advantages

[vital jetty]

You 100% can't switch through hotbar faster on console than just clicking a button on K&M lol.
What advantages are those?

No hate if that's your preferred mind you. We all have different preferences.

[tardy spruce]

Yeah that’s my preference as I have small hands and it’s easier to just hit triangle or square

But there us a issue with aiming it just generally feels a bit of when using guns compared to like battlefield or apex

[untold ingot]

The fact that you think ark console has any advantage to ark on k and m is funny. You know they had crossplay for tsotf, but removed it because console players didn't have a chance right?

[tardy spruce]

I was not saying console has a advantage I was saying I prefer console

And there is a huge issue with aiming

[untold ingot]

I mean hopefully console tribes are thinking about that, because otherwise they are in trouble

Console isn't inherently at a disadvantage, but controller definitely is

Consoles these days have really good parts, better than most pcs, so hook in a k and m and you'll be competitive enough

If you have to use controller, either stay in base, or play pve

[tardy spruce]

You just get used to a controller after and you’ll be just as good with as k&m

[tropic crag]

Oh boy, you sparked the PC elitists for saying you like controller better, run!

[tropic crag]

On the point of crossplay though, what games have you been playing that allow you to opt out and don't punish you for it? I haven't been able to play any games that have crossplay with it off for the most part, it seems like it bottlenecks your connection or something whenever I do in the few games that have allowed it because I can't even connect to my friends on the same system most times

[tardy spruce]

Battlefield, apex, Warface, Vigor

Those are just ones I remember off the top of my head

Almost every game with crossplay with give you a toggle and it’s not bottlenecking your connection it’s there’s less players

[tropic crag]

When I can't even connect to my friends that I play zombies with all the time with crossplay on, it's bottlenecking I'm pretty sure 😅

Never played any of those games that you mentioned besides Battlefield, so it checks out

[iron sequoia]

[split dove]

I see you are also a Bad Batch enthusiast Classi

[round iris]

[true fox]

What is everyone planning on playing between ark1 shutdown and ark1.5 release? non-officials? or another game?

[marble basin]

People are prob betting wheter it gets delayed or not

[true fox]

Delayed or not, theres 5 days left on officials, and no hard release date or method to order, so there will be some kind of gap, we just don't know how long. I tried the newest expedition of No Man's Sky and enjoyed it, but that gets boring after a while.

[tropic forge]

try diablo immortal

[true fox]

I'm pretty much just a PC gamer, but interesting.

[river inlet]

o

[mint swan]

Starfield haha

[true fox]

I will probaby try that at some point. Enjoying it?

[winged dome]

Also Starfield.
Been enjoying it and taking things slow. avoiding guides and spoilers and just doing my own thing

[unborn umbra]

looking for team

[pine basin]

Ini is good and bad. I know people playing on potatoes that need edited ini files to get acceptable fps. But I also know people that use it to get visual advantages on pvp. Hopefully the new engine and settings can find the halfway solution.

[vital jetty]

Wrong channel for that lol

[vital jetty]

They had launch options for that, or you could custom lower the settings.

If your PC couldn't handle playing ark you were playing on something ancient that should have been upgraded far before Ark ever came out lol

[pine basin]

Pretty much all visual mods we see on nexus are, in a way, editing the games core files

The issue is ark is a competitive game (pvp mode) so they need to have a control over it

[pine basin]

Believe me, some people use real potatoes. Not even using those launch options like dx10 were enough

But yeah, I get it, those people shouldn’t be playing Ark then

[vital jetty]

Then they shouldn't be touching ark until upgraded lol.

[pine basin]

But still, they saw the ini editing as the only way to play the game

[vital jetty]

I was rocking a 970 with a low end Devil's canyon CPU and was able to run near everything on the highest setting, some on high, and useless settings or one that took up A LOT to low/off, and I had good FPS.

[pine basin]

Sure, I said it above. I just think they can find a way halfway through. Make Ark more cartoonish with less details without making things disappear like rocks, or water etc

[tribal chasm]

What happened anyway, at one point it was removed, nowadays I see people using INI again

[vital jetty]

People found a work around to their INI "fix" quite fast.

[pine basin]

I don’t remember it being blocked in all honesty

I myself personally hate the way Ark looks with edited ini files. But like berserker said it’s a necessity when playing pvp

[vital jetty]

No. This creates the same issue Cyberpunk 2077 did. It's making a new game for old "gen" and then freaking out when the game can't run well because their hardware isn't up to the task. Obviously it shouldn't need the most LATEST GPU or CPU to run well, but people playing on ancient hardware shouldn't expect to be able to play the game.

[pine basin]

Cyberpunk isn’t a good example. I would compare with battlegrounds or Fortnite

[vital jetty]

They had put in some roadblocks for INI and made it an actual bannable offense of any editing, but people worked around those roadblocks almost immediately. I forget which CC or update that was though

[pine basin]

Competitive games

[tribal chasm]

I see, thanks 😮

[pine basin]

Make it look like a cartoon but still no advantages to the player

[vital jetty]

It is a good example. Cyberpunk was literally held back because old gen didn't have the tech to do what the game was supposed to be capable of.

UE5 has MANY different things in it, that OLD GPU's literally can't make use of.

[pine basin]

Bananos offense is just laughable because I remember streamers just streaming with ini files and nothing happened to them

[vital jetty]

Because it wasn't always bannable, until they made their rule change to it.

[pine basin]

Cyberpunk was a mess and not a competitive game. Their sim was to make it look good, not really to have a good performance

[pine basin]

I remember that, and people were trying to denounce the streamers but nothing happened

[pine basin]

Fortnite is running on potatoes

[vital jetty]

It's not about being competitive. Your argument is for people who can't even have good FPS unless they use the INI file. I'm pointing out technical issues that will be present if you base your newer games on old and outdated hardware.

Fortnite games live in a vacuum, and doesn't have to constantly keep things up-to-date 24/7.

and if ark looked like fortnite I'd never touch it.

[pine basin]

And I’m also pointing out that some competitive games can be scalable without letting people get advantages with lower settings

But to me it’s fine either way

My pc will probably handle both games

Im just worried about the player base if it’s really a heavy game

But as you said I agree to an extent, not always possible to make things scalable

[vital jetty]

That has nothing to do with the argument though? That's an entirely separate issue of people playing on such old hardware they can't play the game.

There's people playing on 2000s computers complaining they can't play ark with good FPS, and THEN there's people using it to gain an extremely unfair advantage if people aren't also using it.

[pine basin]

No no. Im talking about newer system that cantle handle Ark.

PCs 5 years old can’t handle ark

Caves and boss arenas transitions as an example

[vital jetty]

Then they built or bought a terrible PC lmao

[pine basin]

I mean, they are probably part of the 90% players with mid tier systems

Ark is demanding and kinda broken

Ini kinda alleviate this

[vital jetty]

The only change I made to my PC before my current one was upgrading my 970 to a 1070 (or maybe it was a 1080, idr), and I literally had no issues after that unless it was server side.

[pine basin]

Not ideal of course

[vital jetty]

and that was at max settings.

[pine basin]

Man, I had issues with a 5950x + 3090

Now it’s kinda better with 7800x3d + 4090

[vital jetty]

I have a 3080 and had no issues either, unless it was server side again.

[pine basin]

And it’s not like there’s inst enought hardware. Usage is like 20% but the performance will still be sh*t

[vital jetty]

SSD or HDD?

[pine basin]

Ssd, nvme. It’s not really that

Ark is pretty much cpu bound

I really hope asa and Ark 2 have frame generation techniques

[vital jetty]

SSD effects load times. I would always make it in to bossfights before my friends on HDD.

[pine basin]

My issues were inside huge bases with lots of Dinos inside

[vital jetty]

That was a server side issue, not user.

I mean the user could alleviate it to some extent, but it wasn't solely on them for that.

[pine basin]

Yeah, I remember in 2016 when my friends were intrigued I would get disconnect but would come back online super fast. Just because I had an ssd and they had hdds

In 2023 most gamers already have ssds, Sata or nvme. But the other bottlenecks are still there, main one being cpu bottleneck

[vital jetty]

My friends would die to the dragon on island because they were still loading in while anyone with an SSD was running away already lol

[pine basin]

Ark can’t use all the cores/threads

[pine basin]

Yeah, sad. Now it’s better for sure. But asa and Ark 2 need to find ways to alleviate on the cpu

[vital jetty]

If my low end Devil's canyon could handle it, then those people were on some extremely bad hardware like I said though. I wasn't getting INSANE frame rates, but I'd constantly be between 60-80.

[pine basin]

Frame generation is a good way IMO

[vital jetty]

and when I finally upgraded to a 10 series that skyrocketed to well above 100

kkept the same cpu

[pine basin]

Thing is, your devils canyon is pretty much the same thing as my 7800x3d

Just because Ark doesn’t take advantage of the new architectures

[vital jetty]

The i5 version?

[pine basin]

Doesn’t matter, Ark doesn’t use new cpu architectures as it should

You know those green letters for the names of the creatures?

Even those would make my 5950x struggle to go above 30fps

I would just tap the backspaces, when the names were gonna the game would go above 60 fps easily

It’s just something wrong with the code i don’t know

[vital jetty]

That's a known issue for everyone.

[pine basin]

But I’m hopeful ue5 fixed those

[vital jetty]

It would have to be the code that fixes it i think, not UE5 itself.

[pine basin]

Hopefully

But my point was, ini editing would help a lot 😂

But there are all the bad outcomes for pvp

[drowsy zephyr]

will i7 13700k and rtx 4080 be enough to play ark 2 at 1440p?

[sharp kayak]

No one knows. They have not released any info. I am going to say yes because if done on unreal engine. It should be properly optimized

[drowsy zephyr]

Ok thanks, I've built that pc not long ago and would hate to upgrade it again

[true fox]

This is the correct answer.

That said, you'll probably be ok. That seems relatively new, and unless they take many more years than they are currently forecasting, that would still be a recently released set of system specs, so in all likelihood you'll be fine

[pine basin]

It’s a tricky question because Ark is a very complex games. ASE will have scenarios where performance isn’t an issue (a current high end system can run Ark @ ~300 fps over the ocean). But there are other scenarios your system will struggle (inside big bases with 100s of creatures on sight the same high system can go below the 60fps or even deeper).

I think they need to think ways to offload the mainthread (a.k.a reduce cpu bottleneck). Any mid tier GPU can run ASE just fine. But on scenarios with heavy processing loads, all CPUs will struggle to cope with Ark, because it isn’t ready to use new architectures and multi thread as intended.

New techs I would like to see on the new ark games: frame generation and 3d cache. Both techs have granted huge performance boosts on games similars to ark

[tropic crag]

🤮

[mint swan]

Ark 2 is releasing in December (i made that up and its not true)

[split dove]

maybe next december seeing as it's current target is late/end of 2024

[pine basin]

I think Wc has an whiteboard in their office and everytime someone predicts a release date, Dollie adds a week to their internal release day prediction.

This is the real reason they had to postpone from 2022 to 2024. /s

[jovial wing]

whens ASA releasing

[stray elm]

End of October

[jaunty pewter]

i hope for asa they have less servers

cause ase has like way to many servers with 0 pop

that are just wasted

also i hope they allow play counters ove r80 lol

[jaunty pewter]

really?

[stray elm]

Yep

[jaunty pewter]

damn ok

[lusty nacelle]

yep end of October

which year is more important

[tardy spruce]

Lol

[grim kestrel]

Considering they specified the End of October 2023, that was answered.

[zinc yarrow]

Snail Games has just launched the ARKade Ambassador Program in collaboration with Noiz and Studio Wildcard.
Pre-registration begins now. It offers early access to #ark-survival-ascendedSurvivalAscended for influencers, who can also earn rewards through specific activities.

Is this real news?

[stray elm]

Yes

Snail Games retweeted it.

[tribal chasm]

It will boost hype of course, but will not provide any real insight to the major glitches or balance issues that will likely be found in the game

[prisma elm]

When ark1.5 will be launched

[lime forge]

October

[prisma elm]

Do you have a specific time

[lime forge]

If I did I would have given it to you friend

[prisma elm]

hahah

[stray elm]

All we know is the end of October

[prisma elm]

I think it will be speculated to release. It's the Ark's way of doing things lol

[tired hinge]

Do we know if ark ASA will be crossplay between Xbox and steam on official ?

Also will a Xbox 1s even be able to run it?

[split dove]

1. yes there will be crossplay, wether all official servers will have it we don't know, or if we do idrk
2. No old gen consoles, ASA will only be PC and next gen conoles (PS5/XBOX series X/S) only

[rancid harness]

It sounds like the intent of the game is to be entirely cross compatible. This means mods, players, should all play well with each other no matter what platform they play on.

Wild that we're more or less a month away and we've seen nothing xD

[tired hinge]

I’m getting nervous about how little there is

[tropic forge]

nervous about something you havent paid for yet? you should be nervous when you gonna paid

[tired hinge]

Money isint really a factor. I already gotta buy 3 new Xboxes lol. Just want to be able to play with friends

[tropic forge]

then why youre nervous 🤣

dont buy at launch and watch couple streamers, clips then make the call

[pearl stirrup]

nervous about the lack of information doesnt have to refer to money

[tropic forge]

"dont buy at launch and watch couple streamers, clips then make the call" what else? another delay? aint happening

[pearl stirrup]

im persoinally buying at lauch with exxtremely low expectations. i just dont care and want it

[tropic forge]

good for you

[grim kestrel]

Not everyone hard up for $40 and will just slapped those two $20 bills through the online store and continue to enjoy ASA the same way ASE has been enjoyed.

[fierce stirrup]

same, My main goal is to hop on an official pve server, run to my spor and place like 40 foundations randomly so i can block off a big area

[south lance]

imagine if they fixed foundation spam

[eternal wigeon]

For pve?

[south lance]

take all structures you own, average out thecenter position based on individual structure locations, and increase decay rate for structures further away from center

have the decay rate per radius increase for more structures

[south lance]

sure

i dunno if thisd work on pvp

[eternal wigeon]

Cause for pvp
Structure spam is usually fine and fair game

[south lance]

yeah cause youcan outrigjt destroy thwm

[grim kestrel]

Not sure how they would even do that, foundations already required 2 connected or a foundation with a pillar in the middle.

Only way possible would be to increase it to a minimum size you would expect a small base to be.

[south lance]

connections dont need to be considered

[grim kestrel]

And even then

[south lance]

each structure probably is counted individually even if connected, but connections complicate things like structure demolition

idk how they did that

[eternal wigeon]

Technically there IS a Structure radius limit

But it's super high often not an issue

[south lance]

but my thing doesnt care about connections

it does take into account structure density but it would fuck over teleporters

so any teleporters that belong to a tribe with a very big base would decay rapidly

since the big base would increase.structure count and thus decay rate for structures far away from the center

[grim kestrel]

Would say no way ever an issue. I've had a gigantic area on Rag before from the highland cave that followed out and took an massive area almost tot the beach in open area to the point couldn't render my entire base from end to end

[south lance]

that could be a bad thing if rates arent changed and tps are still necessary for farming

on pvp this would fuck over teles but there teles are even more important

[eternal wigeon]

Yh it's rarely an issue
Only if ur building vertically up with dense Structures

Or if u ever use pipes/Cables

[south lance]

do large multilevel cave bases not face this issue?

cause theres some deep caverns

like doesnt fjordur have a huge cave that just goes downwards

idk if people build there

[gritty jackal]

My tribe did that on ark mobile

There were SO MANY traps

It was an event and we just kept making more traps

Then we’d move them all to the attacked location from the safe locations

On the last castle there were easily 300+ traps both large and bear

[tropic crag]

[tropic crag]

Don't be, they historically almost never share anything until they're extremely close to release, unless it's like ExtraLife or some other special occasion

[pine basin]

With WC’s record, I’m afraid people would lose their bases for no reason if they implemented something like that

Some unnos have plugins that take care of the decay times, it’s common they just fail and demolish Radom bases

I still think the best option would be to implement a claim system

[tropic crag]

Tool cupboards or some similar mechanic (perhaps amount placeable dependent on number of players in tribe, idk) is definitely the way to go in that regard imo

[tropic forge]

yet theres a good chance nothing have change yet or in the future

[pine basin]

There’s. We are just making wishlists.

We know they are changing some mechanics, but we don’t know which ones and how.

[tropic crag]

Every item 99 cent and up or lower

[pine basin]

Maybe when they release that Q&A It will be more clear

[tropic forge]

will see in the next couple cc, i do have things i wanted to clear up to make my decision cause if is all to remain the same as ase it just dosent much sense on buying it again

[pine basin]

Im pretty sure some changes will be made, so it won’t be the same as ASE

We just know what is changing and how

[unborn marlin]

I'm confused, If Ark 2 was about to be released, why wasting time in making a remastered version of ARK, so called ASA?

Unless, of course ARK 2 is nowhere near completion

[pine basin]

Because Ark 2 wasn’t about to release

[unborn marlin]

Comon, it supposed to be release 2023

[pine basin]

Also, they realized not everyone would be willing to move to ark 2 because it is too different, and decided updating ASE’s engine to UE5 would worth it, then they decided to do the remake

[pine basin]

No, it’s supposed to release in the end of 2024

[unborn marlin]

I guess it makes somewhat sense

still remastering is a lot of effort

[jovial wing]

If ark is already like 200 gb what’s ASA gonna be

[tropic crag]

Better

[tropic forge]

1t and just for the island

[odd holly]

Probably going to be low but as they start adding, it will be more than 200 for sure

[south lance]

id be down for this

when a struc decays itll have a claim timer thats some multiple of decay timer

[jagged delta]

when could we expect like a trailer for ASA?

[true fox]

None of us truly have any idea

They haven't pushed their october release date yet, despite no way to preorder, no trailers, and no real information.

[jagged delta]

ooof

[true fox]

but don't suggest it will be delayed. people get angry

[jagged delta]

fair

[noble jewel]

I'm almost 100% convinced it'll be delayed. If it's not i'll be shocked tbh. I expect dec or later if that's the case.

I'd love to be proven wrong, though.

[tropic crag]

You and many others cite the lack of a trailer and a pre-order as if it's a thing that matters, when the game will be released in early access (hence no pre-orders, as that'd be dumb) and history shows that they don't put out trailers until very shortly beforehand, like, why do so many people think this way? What youtuber told people that these are signs to watch out for lol

[weak dagger]

Have we heard if ASA will have Rhynios enabled on release ?

[jagged delta]

probs since he on the island

[tropic crag]

It'll have The Island at release, so presumably yes as they spawn there

[true fox]

Okey doke. Definitely no delays will be released on time!

[tropic crag]

Now let's see Paul Allen's strawman

[silk sage]

I heard on some random video I watched on the subject of ASA saying that they will shutdown all the servers of Ark Evolved. Is this true? If so, where can I go to read more about it?

[true fox]

They are shutting down official servers at the end of September

Read the community crunch newsletters

[silk sage]

Alright, official meaning all the other types like unofficial and things like that will still be up?

[true fox]

Yes

[grim kestrel]

Correct, only unofficial server owners decision to keep up their cluster or if they decide to move to ASA.

[silk sage]

Alright, just wondering. I dont really get much into this Ark related things

[acoustic parcel]

Doesnt it launch with island and se?

[silk sage]

My main question is will ASA be worth it? I'll be trying to read more into though

[tropic crag]

Just Island now, Scorched is later this year

[grim kestrel]

No, Scorched Earth and Transfers are set to be released in December.

[acoustic parcel]

Oh i thought it was at launch

Hmm

[grim kestrel]

Here what we know so far:

ASA
ARK: Survival Ascended will now be a standalone package released on every platform (PC Windows/Steam, Xbox Series S/X, and PlayStation 5) at $39.99.

(At least one exclusive ASA map confirmed by Wildcard that will be a paid DLC)

The package will include the following pieces of content built-in (not sold separately), with each remastered and altered for the next-generation on Unreal Engine 5: w/Cross Play and Cross Platform Modding

The Island (Released at Launch at the end __October 2023__)
Survival of the Fittest: The Island
Scorched Earth & Transfers (Release in December)
Ragnarok & Aberration (Released by Q1 2024)

Extinction, Genesis Part 1, Genesis Part 2, and all the community-created maps are also to be released over time in 2024 (Fjordur, Ragnarok, The Center, Lost Island, Valguero, Crystal Isles)

[jagged delta]

sick

[dapper narwhal]

So when ASA comes out are we gonna be able to transfer from each island map or can you only keep your character on one map

@grim kestrel

[analog hamlet]

@dapper narwhal

ASA Info Reference List

All information about ASA can be found in the following articles:

• Community Crunch 355
• Community Crunch 356
• Community Crunch 368
• Community Crunch 379

Last updated: 2023-09-18

[stray elm]

Transfers wont be a thing till Scorched comes out.

We do.
Transfers wont be a mechanic until Scorched.

[fallow niche]

That's not what it sounded like they asked.

[dapper narwhal]

@stray elm that’s the dumbest thing ever 😭😭 so big tribes are gonna own one map and it’s only gonna be that tribe on the map

[stray elm]

They asked if they can transfer, and the answer is 'we wont on day-one'

[fallow niche]

Nvm

[dapper narwhal]

So stupid we gonna have to wait months to transfer to other maps, we just gonna be stuck on a single island map with our one big tribe

[stray elm]

An easily solution would probably be to play unofficial or single-player until then.

[stray elm]

Also, it's due to the fact how transfers are going to work in ASA is different. And they need more time to code the new system.

[fallow niche]

Too tired and misread.

[dapper narwhal]

So will ark offical 1x servers be Xbox and ps4 and small tribes will be cross plau with Xbox and pc and ps4?

How will the cross play work

[stray elm]

ASA isn't coming to last-gen consoles

[dapper narwhal]

I know I know

[stray elm]

It'd be PS5.

[dapper narwhal]

But I mean am I gonna have to compete with pc kids on offical 1x if I’m an Xbox player

[stray elm]

And yeah, ASA is going to be full cross platform, which is probably what they mean as in 'needing to rework how transfers work'
Since you may be able to transfer your Steam character to your Xbox, since it'll be full cross platform.

[dapper narwhal]

Great so now the skill gap will be insane lmaooo

[stray elm]

Skill issue

[dapper narwhal]

Xbox players vs 1000$ pcs not to mention the cheating problem

[fallow niche]

They did say cross-platform progression.

[stray elm]

Don't play with a controller

Xbox has keyboard and mouse support

[dapper narwhal]

Xbox mnk is nothing compared to somebody playing on a 1000$ pc with access to modded inis, cheats, better graphics

[stray elm]

Also, most active PC gamers don't have 1,000$ USD computers.
Most people pay like 600$ USD for a high-end gaming PC.

[dapper narwhal]

But the ones that do will have a major competive advantage

Not like I can buy a super Xbox

[stray elm]

Like, not really.
What's a 1,000$ computer going to outclass versus a 600$ other then having overkill specs that wont be outdated in a decade?

[dapper narwhal]

Being on a console and playing against people using pcs is a total different game when it comes to PvP, and your still cutting out the part where they have access to cheats and modded inis

What happened when they allowed pc players to play with Xbox players on ark 1 small tribes

[stray elm]

You do know that there's people who use cheat softwares on consoles, right?
And how is this any different then the current Xbox x Window's 10 crossplay for ASE?

There's also plenty of games with full crossplay that have equal playing fields.

[dapper narwhal]

There’s no aim botters and espers that play console ark it just isn’t like that I’ve played for 5 years of PvP, pc players ruined ark 1 especially small tribes

Ark isn’t one of those games lmao

[stray elm]

We don't know is ASA wont.
ASE certainly isn't, but we have no idea what's in store for ASA.

[dapper narwhal]

So is steam able to cross play or just windows 10

Or both

[stray elm]

Steam can only crossplay with Epic-Games

Playstation ASE is by itself

[dapper narwhal]

Ok well that cuts out the nasa computers

So will ps guys be allowed to play offical cross play?

[stray elm]

On ASA, yes. It'll be 'full' cross platform

[dapper narwhal]

Oh I read it wrong sorru

[stray elm]

I also rechecked the CC with ASA, and it'll have "Cross-platform Anti-Cheat"

[dapper narwhal]

Yeah we will see how long that last lmao

[stray elm]

Basically, if your platform has ASA, it can play with other platforms.
Ps5, Xbox Series X-S, Window's 10, Steam, and Epic-Games (if it releases on it) will all be cross compatible with each other

[dapper narwhal]

Sucks lmao they should just keep Xbox and ps cross play for 1x and then have small tribes compatible with all

[stray elm]

Don't play official.
Easy fix

[hasty otter]

Yo when's this coming out damn

[quaint ridge]

Without evidence, you are the liar. Show proof of words? plz

The Island (Released at Launch)
Survival of the Fittest: The Island & Scorched Earth map variants (Released at Launch)
Scorched Earth (Released at Launch)
Aberration (Released by Q4 2023)
https://survivetheark.com/index.php?/forums/topic/685583-community-crunch-356-ark-roadmap-update-rhyniognatha-concept-and-more/

[stray elm]

He's lying about what?

[quaint ridge]

Scorched & transfer

[stray elm]

What about them?

[quaint ridge]

in the official news they wrote that the scorch will come out with the start. But he writes that later, in dec. Either he has information that he misunderstood, or something else.

[stray elm]

Oh no, that's correct. It's in a later on crunch that you posted.

Let me see if I can find it.

[quaint ridge]

scorch and transfer are an important thing for many

[stray elm]

Scorched is subjective, as there's more popular maps. But transfers I do see.
But they do explain their reasonings, I just need to find the CC.

[quaint ridge]

Scorched are golems. and golems are a very strong soaker at the beginning

[stray elm]

They're rebalancing some parts of the game. So we don't even know if stuff like that is going to matter anymore.

[stray elm]

Found it.
https://survivetheark.com/index.php?/articles.html/community-crunch-368-asa-roadmap-update-asa-comparison-and-more-r2126/

" We’ve also decided to separate the release date of The Island and Scorched Earth. With what we’ve learned about remastering The Island from the ground-up, it wouldn’t be feasible to complete Scorched Earth to a standard we’re happy with. So for now, we’re going to plan that Scorched Earth will be coming to ASA in December this year, Ragnarok and Aberration will follow in Q1 2024, and the rest of the maps beyond then. "

I believe the whole transfers thing was stated by a dev on Discord.

[quaint ridge]

ty

I hope there will be a transfer

[stray elm]

The reasoning of no transfers day-one is due to them reworking it completely.
With ASA being full crossplatform on all platforms it'll be released on, they need to rework how that's going to work.

[winged dome]

Now apologize for calling AA a liar 😂

[lime forge]

Bro I don’t even like AA and I think you owe him an apology

[tropic forge]

600$ ha 😉 would love to know that storage

[chrome lodge]

With the official servers closing I thinks wildcard must release some news in the next crunch if they don't want some official player to lose interest in the licence

[mint forum]

You would think that but i doubt we will get any news till October

[subtle crown]

[elfin pumice]

600$ would be spent on the gpu and cpu alone on a mid-high end pc, not even a high end

[tropic forge]

not sure if 600 can be for both maybe needs a little more

[elfin pumice]

probably

[tropic forge]

my 3090 suprim in the time i bought was 2k alone 🤣

[rancid harness]

Me with a $500 cpu
"Alright I have $100 left for my gpu"

[elfin pumice]

If you bought a mid end cpu for $500 you got scammed lol

But yeah even 600 would be a tight budget

[rancid harness]

Lol definitely not mid. i9-11900k

[dapper narwhal]

Guys stop arguing about pcs 😭😭 the point is it’s an unfair advantage towards xbobs

[rancid harness]

Nah, you gotta spend huge dollars to beat a series x

Plus the games are gonna be better optimized for console

[dapper narwhal]

bro cmon be real

I’m talking about for ark PvP g

[rancid harness]

Only thing tipping for pc's is peripherals and cheats

[dapper narwhal]

Cheats, modded inis, better graphics, access to mods such as Mts arena

[rancid harness]

Like I said, better graphics only come if you spend WAY more than you would to buy a series x

[tropic forge]

its true consoles mixing whit pc is bad no matter what

[dapper narwhal]

Thank you g that’s all I’m tryn to say

[rancid harness]

Plus we don't know what they're gonna do to mitigate the advantage.

[dapper narwhal]

Ask any good pc player at PvP who has the advantage they will tell you

[tropic forge]

aim assist?

[dapper narwhal]

they won’t do anything with that aspect

HELL NO aim assist LOL

that would be terrible to Add

[rancid harness]

It's always been a point of contention in crossplay

[tropic forge]

anyway consoles will always be getting the short end in a mix up

[dapper narwhal]

Ark ascended official 1x should just be ps5 and Xbox players

They can do all cross play for small tribes

[tropic forge]

but i can see to why the crossplay, crossplay=less servers for all platforms

[dapper narwhal]

[tropic forge]

insted of having 300 servers for island for pc another 300 for xbox and 300 for ps they just put 500 for all. PS: its just a example

[south lance]

console still has meshing right

meshing seems to be the most common exploit that actually wipes people

[dapper narwhal]

Everyone has meshing

[tropic forge]

but by doing that it will means more fierce pvp for spots and a mess for pve

[south lance]

aimbot is pretty bad but i dont usually hear that as the biggest complaint

likewise for esp

[dapper narwhal]

Ark 1s small tribes are totally ruined by cheats and pc players

[south lance]

was ark pc totally ruined since launch?

[tropic forge]

well guess its time for console player to buy a good pc to play ark and use cheats 🤣

[dapper narwhal]

no f that cheaters never win

[tropic forge]

ho but they do, being prove by snail games that cheating and having a dev in your pocket you can definitely win 🤣

[south lance]

if pc players all kept playing despite cheats until this year i cant imagine its impossible for console to do the same

🤷

unless youre saying the only counter is cheating

[dapper narwhal]

Bro what are you even talking about like put a cork in it g

[south lance]

no response otherwise 🤷

[untold ingot]

They didn't though

[south lance]

for yhe most part they didnt start quitting until a few years ago

[untold ingot]

Most people quit earlier this year

[south lance]

yeah

[untold ingot]

Smalls looks like Asia servers now due to duping and hacks

[south lance]

pc has always had cheats since launch

[eternal wigeon]

True
But over time it's just gotten worse

Way back then
It wasn't nearly as bad

[south lance]

do you mean worse this year or worse over multiple years

[eternal wigeon]

Both?

[south lance]

sure ok

so its been getting steadily worse since launch?

since 2020?

whats the timeline

and why didnt it kill steam populations quicker

[eternal wigeon]

Almost any player who's touched official pvp for awhile will attest to this being the case

[south lance]

weird

[eternal wigeon]

Latest I can remember was Extinction dlc released

Broke a number of things for pvp on release

[south lance]

thats been true of a lotta dlc tho no?

[eternal wigeon]

Far as I can tell
Yh mostly true
Every dlc seems to be broken 💀

Idk about scorched earth dlc

[south lance]

that id imagine couldve been the worst

but im only guessing

[cyan prairie]

WC enforcement has just got shitter and shitter over the years and as a result the cheaters have got much more blatant. The cheats have also got MUCH more advanced as time goes by

There was a time when you could literally spoof someone's steam acc and log in as them

[eternal wigeon]

I thought that was only epic games accounts

[grim kestrel]

I do recall hearing about that with them, I haven't heard of it happening with steam.

[stray elm]

Got a 1Tb m.2 SSD for 80$

[stray elm]

GPU I got is a 3060 that's 300$, and I got my CPU for 200$.
This pc can run ARK on epic with 60 frames per second.

[tropic forge]

i remember on gen 2 looking far while have my big ass base fully loaded i had 70 ro 80 fps whit all set on max but yet doing alpha rockwell gen 2 it lower to 50 fps but thats old ASE, whit ue5 things should change drastic on hardware

plus you forgot ram

[stray elm]

Ram is fucking cheap.

[tropic forge]

not really, depending on what you going for plus motherboard and power and case, its lot for a high end, 600 you can barelly make a good mid tier thats not limited to upgrad if need it

[stray elm]

If you know how to budget and the right websites/manufacturers. You can make a high-end gaming pc for 600$.
It of course wont be top of the line. But it doesn't need to be. It just needs to run games on high to epic graphics with solid frames.

[tropic forge]

sorry but i cant see how a high end pc can fit on a 600$ budge its just not possible, tell me do you think a gpu 3k series is a high end?

[stray elm]

Yeah, kind of. When Nvidia is just rehashing the same hardware that they used to make the 3k series for the 4k series.

[tropic forge]

well i kinda expect you coming whit the EU5.3 thats going to give all gpu whit dlss but even whit that a 3k series is already old news high end its 4k series thats how the hardware world works, my 3090 should be equivalate to a 4080 even though as 24g vram

[stray elm]

I should note that my 3060 was also on sale.

[tropic forge]

a 3060/3070 back their time was a mid end pc, 3080/3090 high end pc gpu

[south lance]

if it runs ark at 60 fps in basically all conditions its high enough for me

[stray elm]

I'd argue that if I'm getting a steady 60fps for games like Cyberpunk on the highest graphics, that'd be considered 'high end'

[south lance]

only game ive seen that i couldnt run was star citizen

[tropic forge]

nonetheless its because of all the tek advancing so fast and we ppl always looking for better performance and quality that makes pc hardware absulete very fast and ence why consoles and for most a better solution for price/time to next gen console

[stray elm]

It's also an off brand version of a 3060, so it could be modified.

[south lance]

and im on a 1660ti

[split dove]

star citizien moment ™️

[tropic forge]

60 fps cant be said a high end pc not even close

[south lance]

ik ppl with 3060s in their laptops 💀

[tropic forge]

let me check real quick mine

[south lance]

in this case also im at half ram capacity because my prebuilt only came with 1 ram card installed 😩

so like i seriously doubt youll need som xx80 or xx90 for asa

[stray elm]

Personally, I don't care what specs you may have. If you can run a next-gen game with steady 60 fps on the highest graphics, then that's high end to me.

[south lance]

you dont need 120 unless youre doing competitive gaming

and mainly for twitch shooters

even if sotf becomes an esport i doubt itll need 120

imagine that tho

[stray elm]

I concede, it's actually 800$ in total for everything with my pc.
Though, I still stand by that you don't need a 1,000$ USD computer to have a good pc.

[tropic forge]

cyberpunk on ray tracing ultra mine is running on 60 fps at 4k

[true viper]

One thing I hope that Ark II, and if we're lucky enough, ASA, does is rig the player characters to the base UE5 mannequins. Lots of really good animation packs that modders could use in their projects.

[mortal igloo]

most off the horsepower is in graphics cards these days, as long as you have 4+ cores and at least over 3ghz on each, 3200 ram is sufficient too and an SSD, the only limitation will the cores on cpu and the graphics card

not forgetting a decent name brand motherboard as these can be night and day for stability if you plan to fine tune the cpu

[pine basin]

I mean, I can respect your opinion that a GPU that can run @60 fps is enough for you, but it’s not really the case to change the term to fit what you think. High end is high end, the top tier.

People that buy high don’t want to run games @60 fps at fullhd. They are aiming 4k and higher fps.

[mortal igloo]

ye those guys want 4k at 120+ fps or they aint happy 😛

[pine basin]

I don’t see a problem in that. If they have the money, why not. Lol

[mortal igloo]

especially for high mhz monitors as they run better when the fps matches the mhz

i didnt say its a problem, i was merely pointing out the standards they expect

i have to have low standards as my 980ti is getting dated now 😦

[pine basin]

But my point is, the tiers of the gpus and CPUs are the terms accepted in the industry as is. You can’t say: “well, that 4060 is enough for me, I will call it high end” 😂

[mortal igloo]

but it runs on wc and never goes above 44c so shes in it for the long haul

allthese taxes going up isnt helping me get a new card

[pine basin]

Im talking with people above wanting to change the meaning of high end and arguing you can buy a high end pc for 600 usd

600 usd won’t pay for a high end GPU

[mortal igloo]

it will pay for a mediocre one that will run games but at 30fps if you lucky

i mean your bugdet isnt too good for the card at that price, 150-250 if you can find super good deals on the others, but then going second hand could get you a 2060s at least

[pine basin]

That’s a nice GPU. Im not saying people should buy the best and the newest, just pointing out we need to call them accordingly

[mortal igloo]

she does ok, struggles a bit in unoptimized games

my 980 at least has scaling options, this doesnt

[pine basin]

But my point is, a 2060 is, right now, a low end GPU you know what I mean?

It will be enough for 99% of the people

[mortal igloo]

i wouldnt turn my nose up at that haha

[pine basin]

But we can’t call mid end or high end just because it is a good GPU

[mortal igloo]

your probably looking at 100 rise for a the 30** series

no we cant

[pine basin]

It’s a good GPU, I’m not arguing about that, but it is now a low end GPU

[pine basin]

It depends on what you want

People wanting ray tracing would need 3000 and 4000 cards

That’s what will probably be the case for ASA

If it has ray tracing, you will need a 3060 or 4060 at least

[mortal igloo]

i just hope i get more than 30fps for asa

all on low lol

[pine basin]

I bet you will be fine

[mortal igloo]

when i first played ark, it was on a 460, i was getting 20-30 fps haha

[pine basin]

I remember the first days

The best GPU back then were the 780 ti

[mortal igloo]

fisty cufs on the beach in pvp

hididing in bushes and stuff

[pine basin]

And even the owners of those couldn’t run above 40 fps

[mortal igloo]

it was fairly well optimized towards the end, my igpu was getting 10-20 fps on ny old 3570k

or a model around there i forget exactly

the only thingg that killed me for ark was the SERVER saves lol

that shit got boring fast

[pine basin]

Yeah, the performance improved a lot, also the visuals

[pine basin]

You mean the updates?

[mortal igloo]

so ark without them saves will be so blissfull for me

[pine basin]

The saves were actually fast, but everytime they had to update the servers, it would take hours

[mortal igloo]

the offcial servers, every 15 mins while the server saves, you cant do shit for 30 secs

sometimes i got desynced so bad when swimming

[pine basin]

Yeah, rubberbanding and lag

Even opening a door is hard

[mortal igloo]

patience level 100

[pine basin]

The network side of the game is something I hope got revamped for ASA

[mortal igloo]

loading lag i could kinda handle, unless im taming stryders

and clipping into dino'

[pine basin]

The most annoying network annoyance to me was the gen 1 ocean

[mortal igloo]

sometimes i would get mesh death messages for that

[pine basin]

I would get disconnect in the middle of a mission

[mortal igloo]

i didnt stay in gen 1 too long, i could never find a splot to build

but ye gen servers crashing was a bit much

server just cant handle all them timers for gacha crystals

and babies

[pine basin]

Gen 1 isn’t really a map to have a base

[mortal igloo]

i mained on the infamous rag as it has almost everything

[pine basin]

IMO rag was the best until gen 2

[mortal igloo]

stayed too long on the island and scorched, looking forward to asa gen release

[pine basin]

Gen 2 broke the game in all the ways 😂

[mortal igloo]

gen 2 was a literal game changer, good and bad

but so it should be good, its end game

[pine basin]

And for the same reason

Good: tek is cheap
Bad: tek is cheap

[mortal igloo]

i dont think people should be able to just hop on gen though, gotta kill the boss previously imo

work hard and be rewarded

[pine basin]

I think they can’t do that because Ark is basically an mmo

[mortal igloo]

i know, just being able to join gen2 is like skipping half off ark

[pine basin]

If they needed to lock all new characters outside of specific maps, would be a bit annoying

[pine basin]

Yeah, but the lore isn’t the most important part of ark

At least not for most of the players

[mortal igloo]

its not for me 😛

[pine basin]

It’s kinda hard to make people follow the history

[mortal igloo]

but i do think there should be a process to gain access to lush end game loots

[pine basin]

I did because I was playing ark since day one

But someone starting Ark right now might not want to follow the lore

[mortal igloo]

i mean just join gen 2, do a few drop farms and if you lucky, your full tek

[pine basin]

I don’t, but I think they should at least make people know what order they should follow to know more about the lore

I mean, there are some unno pvp servers that get wiped every two months

[mortal igloo]

i just look at ways to keep players in game longer, guys join, they rush to do everything, get bored and quit

i actually never did all the bosses in ark and i got 20k hours

[pine basin]

It would be a bit annoying to need to start on island, then scorched, then aberration, extinction and so on

[pine basin]

Really? 😂

[mortal igloo]

when i like a game, i always leave something to do, cos then i get bored as i done everything

its how we work

[pine basin]

I have like 15k (taking into account my two steam accs), I have all the bosses

[mortal igloo]

Breeding does that

[pine basin]

But most of this time was grinding or breeding

That’s not something I would to repeat on ASA

I want to something more interesting

[mortal igloo]

i enjoyed the breeding tbh

the farming was just a means to an end

[pine basin]

90% of the time you are afk

The rest is getting food and stuff to imprint

[mortal igloo]

not when i breed haha, i get everything out, i used to have over 300 babies going a time, your never bored

especially when you get mutations and colours you like

then i might do a boss in between to help the newbies

all memories now

they will change a fair bit for asa, depending on the engine

[pine basin]

It’s funny for the first breeding line. But then it gets boring. I mean, I just want that breeding and grinding isn’t our main activities on ASA

But I’m afraid that’s something that won’t change much

[mortal igloo]

each to there own :p

[pine basin]

Instead of breeding, I think training the adult creature would be more fun. A new mechanic I mean.

[pine basin]

But you really think it’s funny to breed on Ark after eight years and 20k hours of doing that?

[mortal igloo]

i wasnt purely breeding but that was a good pass time, rest off the time i was helping newbros, showing them the caves, teaching them ark etc

as thats what i like to do hehe

pvp guys like killing everyone, i like to help people 😛

i was so different in my younger years, i wouldnt play a game if it didnt do pvp

i heard there wasnt really much pve in ark 2, so will see

[true fox]

There's no ark2 to know anything aboutyet

[tropic forge]

did same thing, while babies growing i when due my grind, boss battles to help others getting engram, teaching my way of doing things and the rest of time complaining about ppl leaving half traps and spikes everywhere 🤣

[split dove]

the ark 2 steam page suggests more pve oriented features like enemy pve npc's (orc people), world events, sensory-based creature ai, character progression and a skill system, component based item crafting and more stuff that won't be just mainly pvp focused like Ark 1 as far as we know atm

[south lance]

if playing ark 2 solo becomes fun then the game will be a success

that and mods

wonder what new mods we will get in the first year

[winged dome]

S+2 😂

[grim kestrel]

Where is the world did you hear that?

[winged dome]

Yeah, usually the YouTuber rumor is Ark2 is only PvE 🤔

[pine basin]

I hope it will be. Better AI, more complex pve forces (Aratai) and lots of events (global events). Also it might more missions after their experience with genesis.

[pine basin]

Whatever you heard about Ark 2 is probably a rumor. Ark 2 is pretty much a concept as of now. They never showed anything relevant about Ark 2. We don’t have a clue about Ark 2.

[south lance]

ark 2 is whatever you want it to be

ark 2 is whatever you need it to be

[pine basin]

Ark 2 is nothing like you want it be

Ark 2 is nothing like you need it to be

Everything above is correct

[south lance]

everything above is incorrect

[pine basin]

True

Also false

[south lance]

the excluded middle has appeared

[pine basin]

But seriously, nothing about Ark 2 is a sure thing

Maybe, and I would say maybe, it will be 3rd person only for sure

But everything else are generic statements

“Better AI” - How so?

[south lance]

since everyone is gonna forget about what they heard here once asa releases you can just imagine ark2 is gonna be perfect to be happy and then get distracted by asa

[pine basin]

“Mostly primitive” - what? What aspects? Future updates will bring more tek stuff? How so?

And so on

Even ASA, a remake, is also basically a bunch of generic statements 😂

[south lance]

infortunately

but the mod pic is cool

[pine basin]

“Will cryopods be a thing day one?” Stay tuned for our Q&A soon ™️

[south lance]

they gotta see ark without cryopods again

[pine basin]

For sure, I’m a little hyped I would say

[pine basin]

I would be fine with it to be honest

[south lance]

i just wanna see

i wanna see testing

i dont trust peoples experiences

[pine basin]

I would actually ban cryopods for good

[south lance]

thats what a lotta people want

[pine basin]

I guess we will hear more about in the next week CC

[south lance]

ive yet to see more than 1 in 10 people not want cryopods replaced with a structure that stores dinos

[pine basin]

hopefully a video next week or in 2 weeks

[pine basin]

Yeah

[south lance]

ya

[pine basin]

It’s a no brainer

Cryos are like an official and acceptable glitch

I mean, it was possible to bring gigas to bosses because of them

Quetzals to bosses

And on pvp you can use them to easily raid bases that otherwise would be impossible to be raided

Only thing cryos served as a QOL improvement was to pause breeding

[south lance]

ya

that is kinda huge for solos

[pine basin]

But a machine/structure would replace that easily and better

[south lance]

but it doesnt need to be something you bring in a kit

[pine basin]

Yeah, this

[south lance]

the fact that they arent even a weight issue

cause they way like .1

[pine basin]

There are so many issues with them that’s impossible to remember all

Like transfer timers

Once I went to a server to raid a base

But you just can’t donwload a creature and then upload it back to the cloud

[south lance]

now you can :p

[pine basin]

There’s a timer, so I had to hide my quetzal for hours until I could transfer it back

Now you just put on cryo

[south lance]

i think they would need to make hiding more effective tho

and idk how theyd fix that

[vital jetty]

cryos also made it impossible to enforce "no line breeding sharing*" on smalls 😮

[pine basin]

I also remember there are several glitches to reset breeding timers

[pine basin]

Yeah, that too

[south lance]

depends on how the structure works tho

[pine basin]

Several issues

[south lance]

sky quetzals are always gonna be useful

like the only way to play on and off witjout tribe tbh

but that needs a bunch of dead servers too

if they could male cryo storage building able to be placed off foundation, without power, then you could again play without being on 24/7

[pine basin]

Just don't do that. It's easy. A breeding machine should be limited to work on a place with power available.

[south lance]

im not talking breeding tho

[pine basin]

I wouldn't limit it to a tek generator because I think even bobs should have access to a breeding machine

[south lance]

i just mean storage for shit

like have 6 slots

[pine basin]

but I would limit advanced tools to a tek generator

[pine basin]

But I am LOL

The current breeding meta is bad

1000s of female gigas aligned in a cave is cancer

[south lance]

sure yeah i dont disagree

but like idk how to fix that

[pine basin]

I don't think a machine to breed and grow babies would unbalance the game

[south lance]

sure i dont think itd make it any faster for people to reach level cap

[pine basin]

but i would remove imprinting

[south lance]

just more people do

[pine basin]

at least the way it is now. Make imprinting a think you do after the creature is fully grown

[south lance]

honestly id rather the opposite with a fixed/reduced mutation cap but imprinting stays

sure idrc when imprinting happens

[pine basin]

I mean, imprinting atomatically in the machine, I think wouldnt make sense

[south lance]

imprint wild dinos even

its not like breeding is fun enough to matter

taming wilds at least is more gambling like

[pine basin]

that's why I think machine + imprinting after fully grown would make more sense to me

[pine basin]

yeah, now we will be able to tame babies

[south lance]

being a bob on a new server looking for a 150 pt 😩

[pine basin]

I hope this means breeding is being fully rethought

[south lance]

that parts really interesting to me

does it only mention babies or also juvies

cause imagine only needing 1 milk to raise a wyvern

tho now they can breed

but still

[pine basin]

It would make sense to be able to tame both

[south lance]

but do juvies even exist

like kairuku/penguins

[pine basin]

babies, juvies, adolescents and adults

[south lance]

they have all of that

idk how taming works with them since i never tried

[pine basin]

and make it more interesting, making it different to tame a baby or an adult

I don't know

so many possibilities, I just hope they surprise me positively

[south lance]

can you tame baby penguins?

in ase

[pine basin]

I'm not sure

[south lance]

cause thats the most analogous system to what we are promised if so

[pine basin]

But that's something possible for ark

there are at least 2 mods I played that have that

babies, juvies etc all wild and tamable

if modders are able to do that, wc also can

[south lance]

id be fine with like, wild dinos at older ages get reduced imprint potential

this seems likely at least

and this is not considering previous ideas around imprint

[pine basin]

Would be nice to randomize stuff

[south lance]

its a very weak way to balance

wdym

[pine basin]

like one day you are flying around the map and you see a rex with really high melee because there's an world event running

I don't know if they are bringing migrations to ASA

but would be nice to see things more randomized

[south lance]

sure yeah greater stat variation could be cool but theres gonna be problems with the only dinos you find having a high chance of beinf useless

like you find 20 rexes, 5 are 140+, and of those 5 only 1 has hp or melee

sure the same issue occurred before

but before it was like a 5-10 point thing

now it could be a 60 point thing

if they reduced the likelihood of garbage stat allocation id be cool tho

either its an even spread or its minmaxed into something useful

you dont get minmaxed rex with capped weight

[jagged delta]

do you think they'll make breeding easier in ASA?

[tropic forge]

gotta wait to see

[sweet plover]

how frequently are maps releasing do we know yet

[stray elm]

Varies, but seems like every 2-3 months.

Scorched isn't coming out till December.
Aberration isn't till now Q1 2024, with the rest of the dlc's possibly being pushed back due to the initial delay.

[sweet plover]

Fuckin delays as always

[tropic forge]

you realise they are making a remake in months not years right?

[dapper narwhal]

@tropic forge months? U mean a month?

[lime forge]

No he means months

[sweet plover]

I'm not dumb but it was alr delayed multiple times and I have to buy It now so yay

[timber egret]

when can we buy it?

[sweet plover]

Idk tbh

[timber egret]

Damn, I'm hoping it comes out Oct

[sweet plover]

I thought It did

[tropic forge]

no months, ASA is being in the work for like 6 months now

[stray elm]

When it comes out

[tropic forge]

only 1 time as being delay, now ark 2 thats another story

[sweet plover]

It was delayed twice bud

[stray elm]

When?

The original release date was in August.

Then it got delayed to October

[sweet plover]

Exactly the. It was september

[stray elm]

They never said September

[sweet plover]

No they said September at 1 point

[tropic forge]

no

[sweet plover]

End of september

[stray elm]

They never did

End of 'October' is what they said

[sweet plover]

Idk anymore

Idrc tbh I just want game to come out

[tropic forge]

that was ppl talking ASA would go on in september wc never said anything about it

[stray elm]

Find where they said it was delayed to September and send it to me

[sweet plover]

@stray elm I ain't doin all that work cuh

[stray elm]

It was delayed once

[sweet plover]

I could care less tbh just want game to be out

So I can run smalls or 1x pvp

[calm meteor]

Hey all, I always try to get information about ASA and everytime I see the channel ARK Ascended News on Twitter with the most information apart from those on community crunch. Has anyone here an idea where this channel get the information or can Tell me if it is in offical channel with real and true informations?

[distant lynx]

What’s the difference between survival ascended and ark 2?

[lime forge]

This server gets the announcements we just don’t have much yet

[lime forge]

Ark 2 is a sequel and Ascended is an Ark 1 remaster.

[distant lynx]

Ascended being remaster means it’s just better quality or?

[lime forge]

Yeah, they’ve announced some balance changes, cave changes, and QoL changes nothing super specific. Plus wild babies and whatever mechanics that entails. The engine is being upgraded to UE5. They say there’s more changes but that’s really all they’ve given us so far.

[distant lynx]

Sounds good, thanks

[calm meteor]

Ok thats nice to know. Thank you

[thick wren]

I'm mostly playing Ark in third person, and sometimes in first for some stuff todo,so i hoped it would be the same in ARK 2, people could change betweem first and third person, i really hoped those 2 would stay.
But seems like it its only third person,i'm still hoping they will change it back so you still could use both.

[shy kindle]

How much does Ark2 will cost?

[untold ingot]

$300

[lime forge]

I’d wager close to 60$

Maybe 50 If it’s releasing in EA

[dusky moat]

When is ark 2 out

[lime forge]

2024

Q4

Ish (delay pending)

[grim kestrel]

Ark 2 is a completely different game, it will be by design at least as far as we know official will be third person only.

They have confirmed that they will allow 1st person to be turned on by mod ability so unofficial will be able to. And who knows maybe they will introduce some mod enabled official servers.

Combat in Ark 2 will be intended for 3rd person so turning on 1st person could possibly disadvantage you.

[distant lynx]

Will ark 2 have all the dinos that we’ve voted for, or is that for Ascended?

[lime forge]

That’s Ascended

[thick wren]

Ok thx so if it is possible for unofficials to use first person so will be for Single Player too?

[split dove]

it's gonna depend on people making first person mods for Ark 2, as Wildcard currently haven't said anything about adding it back themselves as Ark 2's new mechanics/changes to the playstyle are probably gonna be easier/better to make for third person only as opposed to first and third person instead (aka Ark 1 mechanics). so just like Ark 1 if you want something that won't be on officials servers you can use a mod on unofficial and singleplayer if Ark 2's gonna have them both

[mint swan]

is there gon be character creation?

[brisk lava]

We can hope

[elfin pumice]

I dont think they said anything about it but there will probably be

[split dove]

seeing as there's gonna be character progression and a skill system it would be very weird to not have visual character creation there like we currently got

[winged dome]

Who needs character creation when we already start off perfect?

[split dove]

™️

[mint swan]

me

[winged dome]

Fs in the chat

[tropic crag]

Poor fella doesn't want to be the perfect organism

[distant lynx]

So what new dinos are in 2?

[winged dome]

New? Aside from the legendary Saladmander and that spider thing, I don't think we've seen anything but returners

[split dove]

besides the brachio, salamander and Aratai we haven't seen amyhthing new

[winged dome]

Was it confirmed a Brachi? I thought it was just speculation

[distant lynx]

So far Ascended looker better but idk