ark-2

[serene onyx]

Yeah

[tropic forge]

you know what, bad tides are coming, mark my words, this all of ark 2 then ASA and both keeping delay and so little to no real information gonna be the doom of wc when and if they actually realese a game

[south lance]

i dont really know

[serene onyx]

Ark is gonna become dead if they keep delaying

[south lance]

i personally think ark players are hardcore addicts to the game so i dont feel like they need our trust

and i dont think they can really bank on the trust of people outside the current playerbase

[serene onyx]

Basically every official server is dead only matter of time when unofficial becomes dead

[south lance]

ya

but everyone knows about asa and the official shutdown

its like, people can finally justify taking a break now

[serene onyx]

Wildcard needs to give us some good news

[south lance]

instead of perpetuating the grind

[serene onyx]

Im convinced the animated series was canceled lol

[south lance]

yeah honestly idek where thats going

[serene onyx]

Nothing has been said bout it

[mighty lion]

Tbh I'm happy with Wildcard giving us advanced notice about the delay and giving us their reasoning. It is definetly better than how they've responded in the past.

[south lance]

better than march 31st ark2 news

worst april not fools ever

[mighty lion]

Yeah

[serene onyx]

Wildcard is going down hill

[south lance]

perhaps

just gotta hope asa actually works out

[serene onyx]

It wont

[south lance]

and after that, ark2

[serene onyx]

More delays

Just for it to be buggy

[south lance]

maybe

[serene onyx]

And why do we need crossplay?

[south lance]

inflate player count ig

[serene onyx]

Did anyone ask for it?

[south lance]

instead of 200k players across 4 platforms, 200k players all on one

thisd probably dilute hackers if nothing else, and theyd be able to prevent so many dead servers since more people are gonna be there

thats me thinking optimistically tho

i just dont know if itd matter since the game favors huge tribes killing servers

but unofficial would also be more lively

idk how crossplatform mods will work tho

feel like you need to have an option for pc only mods

[serene onyx]

I bet they are gonna be worse then the ones we have rn

[south lance]

or else you might limit modding

[serene onyx]

To work better for console

[south lance]

i think most mods atm are terrible as is idrc if they are lost

besides the qol ones

[serene onyx]

There are really good ones

[south lance]

besides qol ones, i only know that theres mods that modify creature behavior and add in some structures

[serene onyx]

Oh damn really

[south lance]

idk any good ones that add creatires tho

nah i havent tried most mods

[serene onyx]

Ark additions

Really good

[south lance]

that ones good ye

forgot that it adds creatures

[serene onyx]

Yeah

[south lance]

also primal fear does some cool stuff

other than those two idrk tho

[serene onyx]

Never played that

[south lance]

jurassic park mod?

[serene onyx]

Primal fear

[south lance]

i havent played any mods

besides the qol ones on some servers

[serene onyx]

Mods are keeping ark alive

[south lance]

unofficial is keeping ark alive

[ivory sundial]

I'm sorry to butt in on your conversation guys but i have to say im so jealous that you get to play with mods, theres so many times im playing and just think about how useful they would be 😂

[serene onyx]

Unofficial also has mods, well most of em

[south lance]

mods are better than none ye

some mods should just be part of the base game tho

why tf does spyglass not show stats by default

it does on mobile even

at least, hp

[serene onyx]

Only hp

[south lance]

ya

better than pc tho xd

[serene onyx]

Yeah

Lol

[south lance]

does console get primitive plus

[serene onyx]

No

[south lance]

ik nobody uses it but still

[serene onyx]

Wait i think so

[ivory sundial]

im not sure to be honest i dont think so

[south lance]

hm

[ivory sundial]

i dunno

nvm just checked and it is available for console editions but nobody really uses it so its abit worthless

[serene onyx]

It would’ve been amazing if wildcard did something with it

[ivory sundial]

yeah you can say that again xD

[south lance]

seems like itd be great to see how ark2 wouldve went

since its conceptually what ark2 is supposed to be

[serene onyx]

Yeah

[south lance]

imagije everyone either hating or loving the concept back a few years ago so they dont need to waste resources on a remaster or ark2

just one game

cause they still working on both games atm

even if asa is the test game first

[ivory sundial]

im not even sure if im going to bother buyin ark 2 until i see some proper gameplay footage

[south lance]

i mean its almost coming out in 2025

gonna have about a year of asa furst

[ivory sundial]

yeah it says confirmed for late 2024 on google so idk

[south lance]

hopefully the launch price doesn't change much for a few months so people can play asa enough to make an educated purchase of it

wanna know if they actually made a better game or not

[serene onyx]

Doubt it

[ivory sundial]

yeah idk about that tbh

[south lance]

idk they just need to change some numbers around and fix some bugs

and maybe completely rework element farming

[ivory sundial]

yeah sumn like that lol

[south lance]

imo

[ivory sundial]

im ngl only reason im chatting with yall is cause i got like 900 cp making rn and i got nowt else to do xD

[south lance]

lol rip

[ivory sundial]

yeah its sooo slow

cba cl

[south lance]

get a chem bench and something to farm chitin ig

gen2 basically xd

or just wyvern farm beavers on rag

and fjordur

[ivory sundial]

im only in early midgame im grinding for an indy forge rn i just started like a singleplayer

[south lance]

probably cheapest paste

rip

map?

[ivory sundial]

started like three days ago thought id give the island a go again

[south lance]

theres beavers in that lake up north and around redwoods

or you can go into one of the bug caves

[ivory sundial]

yeah none of the bloody things are spawning for me though ive checked all the spawns on the map

im just using bugs w my mega rn

[south lance]

gl

[ivory sundial]

cheers bud

what you playing atm then?

map wise i mean

[south lance]

im not even playing ark anymore

grinding other games and stuff

[ivory sundial]

oh fair enough i guess lol

what games u on then ha

[south lance]

planetside 2

only sandbox thats free

sadly its as dead as ark official

at least during half yhe day

[ivory sundial]

fair enough it looks quite good tbh but idk much about it

[south lance]

its futuristic battlefield

[ivory sundial]

sounds about right

[inland juniper]

Ark ascended to be released on the October of next year

[south lance]

nah this year

[ivory sundial]

dam i replied to the wrong msg

[south lance]

np

[ivory sundial]

cem paste is done tho

finally

[south lance]

gg

[south lance]

"After much deliberation, we’ve decided to delay the launch of ARK: Survival Ascended to later this year and ship the title on Xbox Series X/S, PlayStation 5, and PC in October 2023"

gonna delete official on september 30

[ivory sundial]

bro got quiet real quick

joking lmao

[inland juniper]

Alr alr, still kinda sad I have to start school again before this launch

[ivory sundial]

me too :/

i remember when i had my 12 birthday and bought all the maps i could with my ps gift card bro

thats real brotha

[inland juniper]

Yea sadly it is

[ivory sundial]

i hear ya bro i hear ya

[pallid briar]

We be lucky to see asa in the next 6 years let alone this year

And as for ark 2 be luck if that drops in next 10 years

[stray elm]

@worn grove We should probably talk in here then we don't have to wait 5 minutes

[worn grove]

Ye not false

[stray elm]

But the original primitive tools don't really need a full upgrade, personally.
Stone-pick's mesh looks fine in the original. Just needs better textures. Which they did.

Sleeping bad kind of looked shit though.

[worn grove]

They just made better texture and changed the colors

[stray elm]

And the buildings 'needed' a rework, due to the oversight of being able to make characters taller then a single-wall.

Club is defiantly a new mesh.

It's a lot more thicker.

[worn grove]

They touched the design of the club only ye and on the others they just made better textures and they changed the colors of it

[stray elm]

Changing textures usually changes the colors.
But yeah, that's kind of all they needed. Don't really see anything they could've remade for them.

Stone-tools already looks shitty as they are.
Only thing worse is if you where using a legit sharp rock without a handle. 😅

Shitty as in use, not design.
Like they look like they where just made to work.

[untold ingot]

I'm pretty sure for the stone tools it's just the lighting

[worn grove]

lmao

[stray elm]

Nah, I can defiantly tell there's more higher-res materials on there.

[lime forge]

Definitely

Defiantly

[stray elm]

ASA stone-tools have a crack or indent every inch of it, versus the ASE version that only have cracks here and there.

[worn grove]

But I wonder if they gonna change the design of dinos

🤔

[untold ingot]

The Asa materials look the same as ase to me

[stray elm]

I doubt they'll do so by much. But I do wanna see what they fur on animals will look like.

[worn grove]

Oh

[stray elm]

No offense, but you're blind

Hang on, let me take a screenshot.

[worn grove]

Lmao ye I see some changes on some assets

[lime forge]

Raq just likes trying to be controversial

[worn grove]

XD

[untold ingot]

I am actually legally blind

[stray elm]

Same.

But I can still see details.

[worn grove]

Me too

[stray elm]

@untold ingot Stone has more cracks if you notice.

[worn grove]

I would say more texture

[stray elm]

It's probably a heightmap

[worn grove]

Maybe change them a bit as a developer said

[stray elm]

For context, a heightmap is basically a texture that gives a flat mesh/model an illusion of depth. This is to help performance then you don't actually have to add depth to the model/mesh.
Can also be used in map-generation, but that's a whole other process.

[worn grove]

Ok but do you still think they gonna touch some dinos or not at all ?

[stray elm]

They're gonna have to with whatever they're doing with the fur-armor.
Fur armor uses the same fur texture that some mammals use if I recall. So they'll have to change the fur in theory.

I don't think we'll see a huge change though, like a TLC where they get a whole new model.
At most, I think they might upscale the texture on them.

[untold ingot]

I mean, you can see some of the transfers nekatus did for thylas to see how good the fur in ue5 could look

[worn grove]

Ok you think of better textures I see

[stray elm]

Good until you're inches away, and not in a pre-rendered screenshot that is angled right.

[worn grove]

Lol

[untold ingot]

Lol

[stray elm]

Motherfuckers still got that 2D hairstyles. 💀

[worn grove]

Are they gonna change the character model because of the new character customization or not what you think ?

Models on Ark are so ugly lol

[stray elm]

They confirmed they're reworking character customization 'and' creation.

I doubt they'll change the model fully, as the default Bob is iconic to ARK.
But he could also ge-OH WAIT

Hang on, we might've already seen the ASA survivor

HAHA!

Look in fanart

[worn grove]

BOB lmao I forgot about him, I was playing with a skeleton skin almost every day ! LOL

[stray elm]

I forgot they showed that off months ago. "Day in the life of Bob"

[worn grove]

I don't even know if it's a bob or an alien tough because on multiplayer there's a lot of deformed bobs lmao

[stray elm]

Bob is Bob

[worn grove]

Lol

[stray elm]

I....just noticed something weird with the url name of the image

"ARK1_GameSeries_Teaser_Promo_1920"

[worn grove]

What's weird ?

[stray elm]

That url name

[worn grove]

In this irl

?

[stray elm]

Are.....you not reading it?

[worn grove]

Ye I read it but explain deeper since you talked about it

[stray elm]

I talk a normal amount

[worn grove]

1920

[stray elm]

That's part of the url.

I have no idea what that means, just left it in there.

Main parts are "ARK-1, Game-Series, and Teaser Promo"

[worn grove]

Maybe it was a screenshot from a teaser

[stray elm]

Yeah, I thought that also.
But why is it called 'game series?'

[worn grove]

Idk lol

Idk if they consider the teaser as a series? Maybe they do lol

[stray elm]

That image hasn't been brought up ever again so far.
Dumb thought, but what if it's like a mini in-engine series about Bob?

[worn grove]

LMAO

I don't think so to be honest

[stray elm]

Dumb thought, like I said

[worn grove]

Ye

Do you have the image can you send it ?

[stray elm]

I sent it in fanart

[worn grove]

Oh ye I think it's maybe from a bob series they made lol

Makes more sense

[stray elm]

Yeah, those little animations they made to promote events.

Just random, but what if they're making that into a mini-series?

[worn grove]

Maybe they did lol who knows

[ocean crow]

hey

[worn grove]

Hey ?

[gloomy prawn]

Hey hey

[winged dome]

hey

[desert swallow]

hey

[pulsar nest]

hey

[maiden glade]

hey

[winged dome]

No, no man, I'm telling you - it's science. Walk up to her, put your hand on her shoulder and say
hey

[old hemlock]

Hey

[willow yew]

yo can anyone answer this question?

[smoky violet]

yo

[willow yew]

Is Ark Ascended a replacement for ark 2 or is it content to make people happy whilst they develop ark 2?

[smoky violet]

It’s a revamp of ark

[willow yew]

so the only difference is that its ark 1 but with unreal engine 5

[smoky violet]

Yup

And enhanced creature ai

[willow yew]

https://tenor.com/view/what-shock-wtf-wtf-gif-wtf-meme-gif-26076033

why

why would they think thats a good idea

[smoky violet]

Honestly I don’t know

I mean some mechanics would be enhanced as well I think

[willow yew]

so after ark ascended they are going to release ark 2 as another seperate game?

[smoky violet]

Mhm

Ark 2 will be delayed like crazy though

I mean its different coding and stuff

[willow yew]

bruh

[smoky violet]

And 3rd person only

Which sucks

[winged dome]

Engine upgrade, QoL features, cross play and modding support - Ark community was whining that Ark2 would be different from Ark1, so they're giving them literally what they asked for

[smoky violet]

Yeah

[winged dome]

If you don't want it, don't get it 🤷

[smoky violet]

To be honest I’m getting both

[willow yew]

only problem is that ark survival evolved servers gonna go offline

[tropic forge]

expect ark 2 to be available on end 2025/2026

[winged dome]

Only the Official servers

[willow yew]

i have no problem buying the game but it just doesnt make much sense to me icl

[smoky violet]

Well official ones

[smoky violet]

Yeah that’s about right

[winged dome]

Which is 'a small portion of the Ark community'

That quote never fails to make me smile 😂

[willow yew]

Lol

so ark ascended will have crossplay between pc and console?

[winged dome]

Yep

[willow yew]

*crossplay wtf

[winged dome]

No, no you were right with cosplay 😂

[willow yew]

😂

[winged dome]

But yes to Cross play too

[smoky violet]

Yeah

Hopefully console mods

[split dove]

This also impacted our decision to sunset the ASE Official Network offline on August 31st, shortly before the ASA launch. Despite ASE Officials representing the minority of players on ARK
🍻

[winged dome]

Console mods confirmed

[willow yew]

do u guys know if ark ascended will fix all the optimization and issues in normal ark

and the constant rubber banding on both official and unofficial servers?

[winged dome]

I dunno about all, but UE5 has a way better method of rendering than UE4 does. Hopefully the net code is better to fix rubber banding and hit detection

[tropic forge]

ASA will be release as EA at launch so that says a lot

[winged dome]

I think UE4 has to render a bunch of different quality levels for assets, based on distance which UE5 gets around pretty easily with (I forget the technology/engine name, insert it here)

[willow yew]

like for example idk why but in ASE whenever I use the scroll wheel my game fps stutters from 130fps and drops to like 30/40fps

[winged dome]

Like for a single tree UE4 needs 'Tree Very Far, Tree Kinda Far, Tree Far, Tree Kinda Near, ect'

[willow yew]

or whenever i jump into water near forest my game just decides to go insane

or the constant getting stuck in mesh in servers with no admins

[winged dome]

Nanite, that's it

Recent community crunch seemed to suggest the Devs were going through each map by hand to resolve issues, so hopefully less mesh issues/traps

[willow yew]

sounds very time consuming

[winged dome]

That's why Asc got delayed 😭

But I think it'll be worth the wait if you enjoyed Ark

[willow yew]

i enjoy ark but rarely play it and only started playing it again recently after stopping in 2020

[winged dome]

It certainly has flaws, but it just checks so many boxes for me, I overlook most of the faults.
Beautiful open world
Base building pretty much anywhere
Plenty of creatures to mess with

[willow yew]

yea i only have one big issue

[winged dome]

That's why I keep coming back 😂

[willow yew]

ands its whenever there is an update no matter how big it can even be 5mb it always takes an hour

[winged dome]

That might be a Steam issue ... Check your download settings, or try changing your proxy server to somewhere nearby. I had issues like that before but mostly resolved now

[willow yew]

do u play on servers or single player?

[winged dome]

Mostly server. SP just for testing building

[willow yew]

which servers do u play on?

[winged dome]

Unofficials, I don't have time for Official 😂

[willow yew]

which unofficials cus im tryna find some

im lowkey getting tired of official servers and their bs

[winged dome]

Just look at the Server Posting discussions on Steam and look for something you like. Plenty of maps, clusters, or rates to choose from

[willow yew]

ive read a few but do u have any recommended that are somewhat populated

[winged dome]

Nope, I'm just in a friend's server at the moment so not paying attention to postings

[little grail]

Ngl I fully expect that to just flop or never come out 😂

[smoky violet]

Fr

[south lance]

the issues will be conpletely new but theres probably still gonna be mesh issues and aimbot im guessing

since those are pretty common across games

like UI bugs should be different and stuff since thats being redeveloped

certain stat glitches id imagine too but idk how those work entirely

expect it to be super buggy week one at least tho

just cause brand new engine

and new sandbox game

thats meant to be pretty performance intensive unlike idk battlebit

[tropic forge]

new game? i think youre expecting way too much

[south lance]

im saying itll be as buggy as you can expect from a new sandbox game

its a comparison, not me saying asa is a new game in the way youre thinking

[true fox]

Agreed. Given how much trouble converting The Island has been I doubt they are taking on a lot of changes

[eternal wigeon]

I have 0 faith in this company
And my expectations are low, but we will see in time

[tropic forge]

trouble converting The Island? ASA will be release as EA, for them to said that aint the island thats giving too much trouble alone, they are way over their heads and giving news whit dates for whatever insane reason might be aint helping their image at all

[untold ingot]

Not all of them are working on the port lol. Wildcard has more employees than just engine engineers 😅

[south lance]

that sounds good

[proven laurel]

This is never happening

Art, fucking art who gives a fuck mate

[untold totem]

A lot of people do

That's who

[pseudo galleon]

Art is amazing

[tropic crag]

I like and have the capacity to appreciate art as well

But it's not for everyone, I guess...

[verbal wind]

i'm patient, just gonna try to enjoy ASA when it drops and I hope it's good

[worn grove]

Ooofff i don't even know how much of new content it gonna have at launch

A little bit I think

Not too much

I don't even know if they are going to implement all the things they promised

[tropic forge]

its gonna be EA so at launch bit to none

[worn grove]

Ooofff

At least I hope it will have ai improvements and graphical improvements

At launch

[tropic forge]

yeh grafics for sure cause otherwise no one would buy it well except fanatics 🤣

[worn grove]

If they didn't do graphics improvements on asa would you buy it or not?

[tropic forge]

never done that to join in altough whit gen2 i had to get a program to autoclick to be able to join the server i was playing 🤣;

[tropic forge]

the problem aint the graphics to start whit, they are the ones that have to convince me to buy their game and so far they havent, hell the all ASA coming first before ark 2 is already bad in my point of view

[worn grove]

Ok and What interest you the most in asa ?

Is it enough to buy it for you or...

[tropic forge]

so far not much aside to see abberation on UE5

i can see that working for pvp but pve definitly duping plus server stability

[worn grove]

You spoke about directional sprinting so can we now Sprint and look behind us at the same time or not ?

[tropic forge]

you always could do that whit orbital view

[worn grove]

Oh so nothing to do with directional sprinting ok lol

[worn grove]

What exactly is directional sprinting and walking?

[tropic forge]

lol yeh that happen to be but i already had a ticket open about loosing dinos to glitch's and the guy still refuse to do it and i had to wait like 2 more weeks for one of them to come

[worn grove]

lmao it's funny

[worn grove]

Oh it's good

[eternal wigeon]

Personally graphics isnt that important to me when gaming, other aspects are, good graphics is like a bonus
Ofc ik other gamers love their graphics

[tropic forge]

its remaster, actually if you google it the definition of what they said they doing on ASA its a remake so graphics upgrade its a must by definition not a plus, aside from that i never see in my life a remaster/remake being on EA and even worst doing that before a sequel, that much tells whats going on on wc and how much over their heads they are

[graceful whale]

with my 1660 ark graphics is not an issue ☠️☠️☠️

[blissful perch]

Would you argue graphics are important if they show meaningful game mechanics?

For example, better visual graphics to see how weak a creature is? Or a new haze graphic to show hazardous air/radiation zones?

[graceful whale]

guys,will i need to buy this masterpiece game again after remaster?

[blissful perch]

Yes

[graceful whale]

damn,thats too unfortunate

[tropic forge]

plus whit the latest change in price they dint mention if old dlcs are including

[graceful whale]

probably will cost 50 dollars without dlc’s for 5 years straight

[tropic forge]

39.99 for EA

[graceful whale]

so il play it when il be 23 y.o.

[graceful whale]

remastered graphics(((

[ember kestrel]

will the tek pistol be added to ark 2?

[blissful perch]

No tek tier in ark 2

[ember kestrel]

what about long term maybe?

[tropic forge]

we dont know jack s about ark 2 and youre asking about long term??? 🤣

[ember kestrel]

hahaha fair nuff

[untold ingot]

I mean, depending on how he said it, I do agree with what he told you. A dev shouldn't be doing admin commands without logging why they are doing them. It might be a requirement that they aren't allowed to without a ticket

[untold ingot]

It all depends on their rules

[graceful igloo]

yes

[worn grove]

Yes it's a must not a bonus

They will release scorched earth before the new DLC they spoke about or after?

[untold ingot]

You just have to read the announcements 🤣

I mean, sure. But we both know that won't help anything

[worn grove]

I think they said scorched earth will release on December but that's about the same time the dlc originally would had launched that's why I'm asking

[untold ingot]

Nah, we already clarified that I just speak in order to argue. So I would rather not

[untold ingot]

It's very unlikely

[worn grove]

I have a feeling that each dlc's will have a delay lol

[worn grove]

Lol

[untold ingot]

Nah, imma chicken out.

[worn grove]

Lmao

Ye raqkaaq explain dude

true

[untold ingot]

I have no need to defend my statements

[worn grove]

👀

[untold ingot]

If you take issue with the statement I'll respond. I have been getting too much shit from people here taking issue with me and not my statements, so I don't feel the need or desire to put up with it

Your original post was that devs need to change how they react. Not that the need a rule change. My statement was that I supported how they reacted, because they were probably following the rules.

That they need to change the rules sure, I'll agree to that. But that isn't what you originally said.

And instead of clarifying what your point was, you told me how rust did it, and then said I argue just to argue. You can see why I reacted the way I did, yes?

I was arguing in favor of how the dev reacted. If that's not what you were arguing about why are we still on this

Queue the if that wasn't your point, as you said it wasn't, why are we still on this.....

[queen pollen]

isn't this supposed to be about ark 2

[untold ingot]

And now the clown emojis. This is why I don't talk here much anymore lol

[eternal wigeon]

In an online survival game where players can spend thousands of hrs working just for a cheater to wipe all the progress away, who would wana even play legitimately yh
They need to do a better job of enforcement etc

[untold ingot]

I already said I agree that they need to change the rules, what more would you like me to say?

Unless you actually just want me to argue just to argue lol

[eternal wigeon]

Not saying you would, just saying in this game on officals, its like you're forced to cheat cause everyone else is.
it's so stupid on offical pvp servers rn
Game is unplayable otherwise

[untold ingot]

Not true

[eternal wigeon]

Ain't no way you're disagreeing with that, have you played offical pvp recently

[untold ingot]

The game is always playable without cheats. Rn it's just not worth it

[eternal wigeon]

The game is UNPLAYABLE because of the cheaters man, im saying, if your a legit player u cant play
Its like your forced to cheat, to play the game on officals, thats how bad it is

[untold ingot]

People have said that throughout arks entire lifespan in justification of using their own cheats.

[eternal wigeon]

Again, have you seen offical pvp recently? Like 90% + all seem to be associated with cheaters, legit players just have to quit cause its not fun or fair

[untold ingot]

It's been that way the whole time tbf

[eternal wigeon]

Yh, it has gradually gotten worse sometimes, i wish smth was ever done
Compium maybe next Ark1.5 or Ark2 doesnt have it so bad

Yh, i just wish more ppl understand how bad offical pvp is, and the enforcement/anti cheat, actually unplayable game unless your activity cheating

[untold ingot]

Official is also scheduled to close. There are less legit players than ever

But in the age of ini,there were hardly any legit players anyway

[mint swan]

I feel bad for the pc players,I honestly don’t see how people can enjoy pc .. lol so many cheaters😭 don’t get me wrong console deals with mesh and dupe but it’s mostly just game exploits/glitches.where as pc actually hack with aimbots,esp,blueprint changers..one of the reasons I think crossplay is going to be a huge downfall for official. I hope they make some servers console only .

[worn grove]

LMAO

[nova sonnet]

enforcement is a big issue in ark XD

lack of

[untold ingot]

Xbox does get more game breaking exploits though tbf

[mint swan]

Only problem I’ve ever had with ark enforcement is the time they take to reply which is understandable given the amount of tickets and players there are .lost my character? They helped me get my imprints back..gotten meshed quite abit,they would ban the mesher and delete there tribe/beds they may have put down,one time they even ban the cheaters tribe on his other server .enforcement team isn’t the issue imo..more so the games anti cheat system and just the way it was built.being able to do goofy stuff like mesh in the first place .or crash a server by flaming a dodo

[eternal wigeon]

Im so black pilled by this game i dont even consider abusing exploits or using ini as hard cheats
Because iv seen personal what hard cheating in this game can look like

[untold ingot]

Ye, and that's why the game doesn't get new players

[eternal wigeon]

I would never recommend this game to anyone, even when its occasionally free lol
Maybe play singleplayer, dedi with friends, unofficial, or pve, but never offical pvp clusters

[true fox]

One of the many reasons I play PvE

[eternal wigeon]

I envy you 🥹
Actually enjoying the game, cant relate

[true fox]

I would but 339 has been down for almost 60 hours now

[eternal wigeon]

There taking down offical servers early huh? 💀

[true fox]

Feels like it

The way they are doing this, it feels like they are trying to lose the player base to another game before they bring a new one out

And the early access for ASA feels like it’s gonna be shit quality

[gloomy prawn]

I only play Pve on my own servers that I host personally with my friends/family always have. I played official when it first came out and never again xD
We have it set to pvp though so we can do arena matches and battle when we want though, like a coliseum

[tropic crag]

Everyone I know that still played quit because the servers (and therefore, their progress) won't matter in a few measly months, but cheaters are an issue to be sure

[eternal wigeon]

Yh that's also true atm, many are demotivated to touch officals cause of shutdown

On the other hand ik some are looking forward to a fresh start..
And its best to warn players of a shutdown then it be sudden..

Rn unofficials is best for some fun

[tropic crag]

Unofficial have always been the best for a fun, tailored experience, lol

[daring burrow]

It’ll be hard to say goodbye to all of my classic worlds when ark 2 comes out🥹

[worn grove]

Ark 2 2026

Because I'm pretty sure that all the dlc's of ASA will be pushed back

It's a feeling

[versed wyvern]

It's 2030

[true fox]

They already pushed the DLC dates

For the first time...

[quick coral]

I hope this game will come out on gamepass

[mint swan]

Ark 2 is suppose to be don’t think Asa will be

[true fox]

Iirc they said no, but I don’t have a link

[prisma wave]

Is ark survival ascended shutting down all pc steam ark?

[fallow niche]

Only official servers for Ark Survival Evolved will be shut down.

[wanton pike]

Ark 2 might be pushed to 2025 at this rate hahah

[quick coral]

[nova sonnet]

2026*

[true fox]

AS Ascended isn't even out yet. Fall this year (hopefully) . ASE is shutting down (all official servers, not just PC/steam.) SP, Private ,etc will still work, but they will not be developing or improving the game anymore.

[solar marten]

Total bs if you ask me

[true fox]

I'm not saying it will be, I'm saying that is the current advertised date.

Also, it will be 'early access' aka 'you will pay them to beta test it'

[solar marten]

I ain't gonna beta test, and alot of the community is being screwed over with ase being shut down

[true fox]

From beginning to end, poorly handled.

There should have been NO shutdown announcement until at least this shit was in beta

[solar marten]

Because snail games is greedy

[true fox]

let alone 'we haven't figured out squat'

'We're gonna work on ark2' fine.

but fake release dates are just ways to upset the playerbase

[solar marten]

The only thing going through the minds of the people running snail games is "money money money"

[true fox]

Well yes. it is a business. I bet they enjoy things like food and shelter

[strange stirrup]

Well whats the fake release date

[serene onyx]

All the dates they have said

Were all fake

[true fox]

Community crunch has the details. Go read last Friday’s

[eternal wigeon]

He means 2 say that deadlines always getting delayed, wildcard has issues with setting a proper timeline

[desert swallow]

They should just keep quiet until they are ready. Which would also make us angry. But I'm wondering if we'd all be better off.

[serene onyx]

Exactly

Id rather them just not tell us what they’re working on until they are 100% sure they will release it when they say they will

[lime flare]

shouldve just lead with "releasing late 2024" and if it came out earlier we would all be plesantly surpised

[eternal wigeon]

They def should warn people in advance that offcials would shutdown once Ark1.5 releases ofc

People would be more mad if it's sudden

[desert swallow]

I would have not said anything about Ark 2 until approaching beta stage

[eternal wigeon]

Yh Ark 2 is a joke rn lol
Only should say "its in the works"

[serene onyx]

Not even getting it at this point lmao

[eternal wigeon]

Maybe there's a chance we get ARK 2, but if def wont be on time, give it 2030 for early access

[serene onyx]

If its delayed any further then im never getting it lmao

[lime flare]

they couldve also said " we are interested in creating a 2nd ark game but this concept may be scrapped for future ideas"

[eternal wigeon]

O its 1000% delayed
Wildcard has a history of delay

[serene onyx]

Im so tired of these damn delays

[lime flare]

wouldve been sm easier

and then not spoke about it ever again

[desert swallow]

Next community creature vote winner. "The delayosaurus" - Remains as an egg and when it gets close to hatching the timer resets

[serene onyx]

I stg if the reason for the next delay is “ue5 is hard to use”

[lime flare]

ue5 scary we ended up with more spaghetti code

[serene onyx]

Pretty sure they used the same reason for ark2 delay

[desert swallow]

Unreal Engine - "We want to make our engine easier to use"
Wildcard - "It's too hard."

[serene onyx]

Fr its supposed to be easier

[lime flare]

wc scared of change respectable

[eternal wigeon]

Ark has lots of potential as a game
But im skeptical how mismanaged it all is

[serene onyx]

Snail games maybe?

[lime flare]

atleast its not blizzard 🙏

[eternal wigeon]

Yh honestly think snail games does more harm then good for Wildcard

[desert swallow]

Good news: Wildcard purchased and is now free from snail games.
Bad news: Blizzard or EA

[eternal wigeon]

Think id rather blizzard idk

[serene onyx]

Wish they broke off from that company smh

[lime flare]

blizzard is hot ass

not the sexy kind

[serene onyx]

Is it worse then snail games with their stock of abandoned games?

[lime flare]

warthog type beat

[violet edge]

better than EA

[eternal wigeon]

Ik blizzard got problems but honestly cant be worse then what we alrdy got 💀

[lime flare]

lowkey just give ark to the fortnite devs they pump out updates like freakhoes

[serene onyx]

Nahh they gonna add a battle pass

[lime flare]

dino battle pass

🇺🇸

[serene onyx]

Just skins

Shity ones

[desert swallow]

lobby music

[lime flare]

everything adds a battle pass to be fair

[desert swallow]

and spray paints

[serene onyx]

Oh no

[eternal wigeon]

I mean, if you can free 2 play and its not p2w idc, so long as its cosmetics

[serene onyx]

True

But they have to be pretty damn good for ppl to get it

[desert swallow]

my sons would beg to differ

[serene onyx]

Oh?

[lime flare]

if we fr fortnite has the best battlepass system anyways

[eternal wigeon]

As soon as companies off none cosmetic P2w items, it becomes so unfair for free 2 play, not fun

[desert swallow]

Little kids want all battle passes

it's why every game offers a battle pass

[lime flare]

buy it once and complete it never have to pay for another one again

[serene onyx]

Used to, hate how it is now

[lime flare]

havent played since 2021

[desert swallow]

You're just getting older

[lime flare]

still arguably better than whatever overwatch has going on

[serene onyx]

What does theirs look like?

[lime flare]

hot shit

[serene onyx]

Haven’t played that yet

[lime flare]

cant earn the real credits through battle pass just cosmetic credits

[serene onyx]

Ew

[lime flare]

gotta spend 20$ every season to get ot

And now their PVE shit is behind a 15-40$ paywall every season it releases

😟

[serene onyx]

Bruh that sucks

[lime flare]

its terrible.

i quit the game cause of it

never again

[eternal wigeon]

Whats crazy is some people will pay for dumb stuff ingames

Have you seen moblie gaming whales, thousands of 💵

[serene onyx]

Thats how most of mobile games get money

[lime flare]

You can technichally earn the real credits through weekly missions but they only give you so many. like it caps out at like 100 or somehing and you need 2200 credits and the challenges are really weird

cant physically earn enough actual credits in the time it takes the battle pass to go away

they also illegally mark shit as discounted when its actually not lol

[fallow niche]

At least bring it back to ark lol

[lime flare]

ark 2 no battle pass

🥺

[serene onyx]

No battle pass

[lime flare]

battlepass bad

[serene onyx]

Battle pass evil

[lime flare]

battlepass kill game and leaves it to ipad kids

make switch battlepass only thats were they reside

[serene onyx]

Lmao

[true fox]

All consoles are the same user wise

[tribal chasm]

For ASA, any chance we can see things such as Enduro Stew / Battle Tartare getting fixed? For the last 7 years they have not worked at all 😛
Ie they do not increase melee damage at all, and also prevent healing from Med brews/Blood packs etc

[tropic crag]

Not to discredit your peril or anything, but they've always worked fine for me, and I'm on Xbox! 😅

[tribal chasm]

They boost melee damage on the xbox versions? o.O interesting

[nova sonnet]

on PC it lowers your frames drastically (very true)

[ashen edge]

when ark 2 comes out, will they delete ark 1?

[eternal wigeon]

No supposedly, ARK 1 stays it's just offical servers going down, and no major support for game

[ashen edge]

ah alr, thanks

[untold ingot]

The whole reason they are doing Asa is so that people can play ark1 even when ark2 releases

[true fox]

That is a kind way to believe it.

[untold ingot]

I mean, its what they said also lol

[south lance]

its the remake we always wanted but dont want anymore

[eternal wigeon]

"The remake we needed but no one wanted"

[stray elm]

I certainly want it.

Fuck, it's more promising then ARK-2 looks.

[untold ingot]

It was literally the most said thing in general until it was announced lol "stop ark2 and remake ark1"

[true fox]

ark1.5 seems a ... more realistic next project for them then ark2

[stray elm]

Yeah.
ARK-2 sounds more like ambitious fantasy then ASA does.

Like, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the promised ideas are cut in ARK-2.

[true fox]

Yup

[stray elm]

But hey, if they delay ARK-2 by a year or two and use the funding from ASA to put into ARK-2, and with two development teams on it. Then it may come true.

Everyone (including me) forgets that GroveStreet are helping with ARK-2

[true fox]

I am not familiar with Grovestreet

Googling that just tames me to a an equity firm...

[south lance]

grovestreet studios?

Grove steet games

ill always remember them as wardrum

like how everyone remembers meta as facebook

[stray elm]

GroveStreet where the people who got fucked over by Rockstar to do the GTA remasters.

They also did ARK mobile, and the recoding for the Switch, which I believe Wildcard is using as the foundation for ASA? (since they stated the UE5 update was going to be just the Switch version ported to UE5, then released on all platforms)

Basically, they're shit when given shitty stuff.
But good when given time and resources to do something (imagine that.)

And for them to make a mobile port of ARK is already impressive. Which is probably why they got them to redo the Switch, and helping with ARK-2.

[true fox]

given my island server has been down for... 100 hours now, I guess I'm just not tht impressed

Sorry, 103 hours

[stray elm]

What does that have to do with GroveStreet?

[tropic crag]

The support for the current game is terrible, yes. Everyone knows that, hence the remake and hopefully new mod team (though I doubt that, since there's no recurring form of income that we know of for the series yet to support such an undertaking, like a sub for official/specific official clusters)

[true fox]

bootleg: wrong thread

bruising: yup.

ssdd. or ssSlightlyDifferentGame

[gloomy prawn]

This is why I think ASA was even started, to help fund ARK2, everyone rebuys a game +DLC expansions. Probably underestimated the budget on the project, delayed it and used the budget to create a new income.

I mean their game hit game pass on console, I don’t know what kind of income they receive when everyone gets the game for free -a couple maps,
And I don’t know if they receive a % from Nitrado’s server hosting.

[winged dome]

Pretty sure there's some compensation for games being on Gamepass, maybe even more than raw sales at least for older titles late in their lifecycle

[gloomy prawn]

Maybe they should add an in game shop, that sells cosmetics like a lot of other games to bring in collector $$$.
Those aren’t game breaking at least.

[eternal wigeon]

I mean they have cosmetics in game for free currently, not sure what they'd do then about it

More exclusive cosmetics or holiday events?

[gloomy prawn]

Well they sold the bionic Dino costume cosmetics for like 1.99 each? When they came out? They could continue that.

[eternal wigeon]

Thing is with ark, You can always lose your items, who would buy a skin in ark... not many

Idk about perma unlocking the cosmetic? Like you can always use it or spawn in

[gloomy prawn]

More exclusive sets, holiday sets, matching saddle, armor, weapon sets. I wouldn’t mind. But actual saddle cosmetics like the parasaur and thorny dragon?

[winged dome]

Ehhh, that's a slippery slope to poor practices that are becoming more and more common in the gaming industry. Just look at Blizzard's $20 skins ... 😬

[finite elbow]

Hey I’ve been playing ark solo for about 4 months I was wanting to try pvp a bit but I don’t know how to join a tribe and how all that works anyone want to pm me and give some tips ?

[eternal wigeon]

True, but like, if it's pure cosmic and doesnt change the game play i wouldn't care much

Its the battle passes thats a slippery slope maybe

[gloomy prawn]

Yeah, anything other than cosmetic could cause PTW advantages.

[winged dome]

Tip #1: Don't post in random irrelevant channels for help and use the proper ones instead

[eternal wigeon]

@finite elbow I messaged you anyways

[finite elbow]

Ty

[eternal wigeon]

Imagine pay walling dinos 💀
Arguably they do that sometimes with new maps

In game dino shop, p2w

[gloomy prawn]

Well that would suck, imagine having to have paid 9.99 every time a new Dino was relaseased

My island would have stayed vanilla.

[winged dome]

Depends on how the battle pass is handled. Sea of Thieves has a pretty good model where the vast majority of the rewards are free, minus a few cosmetics. Deep Rock Galactic is great because it's 100% free, if a bit heavy on the grind - both cases all rewards are cosmetics or in-game currencies so there's no real gameplay benefit

[eternal wigeon]

Ark lootboxes 🫡

[gloomy prawn]

Whatever cosmetics get added just keep them out my spawn inventory and just add a “buildable” station that I can just craft the ones I unlock.

[eternal wigeon]

On some unofficial clusters
There's dino shops, you can get some free points, or spend irl money on it

[gloomy prawn]

Tired of going through it every time I die

[winged dome]

'Gimmie my skins' button would be a nice QoL

[tropic crag]

To be fair, you can turn that off in the settings, but it's not on a per skin basis and sometimes, I really just want some specific skin

[gloomy prawn]

I feel like 1 more unlocked skin and I’ll spawn with the black weight symbol

[gloomy prawn]

Same.. I’ll have to drown myself a few times to get all of the 1 skin I want.

[rancid harness]

This would be absolutely amazing.
Alternatively, you could just set items you wield to automatically have whatever skin you set to the item type applied. Example, you open the "skins" tab, select "spear" and set every spear item that enters your inventory to display the scorched earth spear skin.

[tropic crag]

Very interesting idea, kinda like how another game does it that I can't seem to remember (my memory is shit)

[true fox]

I think they’ve decided to kill ASE early by just letting broken servers stay dead

[tropic crag]

I'm also thoroughly sure they went ahead and coded it all from scratch, so I'm with ya there

Obviously not every last texture/model is being recoded/redone, but the majority of things I would say probably are

Yeah I read that the same way

Very telling imo

[drifting river]

why do they delay ark 2 release?

[winged dome]

Dunno for certain, but I suspect something went wrong during development or they had a major design shift for Ark2. We went from 'next reveal is gameplay' in early '23 to 'no gameplay until 2024'

Could also be size, scale, or scope - delaying for better hardware access or engine updates

[drifting river]

why not make ark2 early acces

[lime forge]

That’s the plan already

[drifting river]

realese date fixed?

[lime forge]

Nope

[winged dome]

'End of 2024' is the current window

[drifting river]

will u get ark ascended

[winged dome]

Me? Probably. QoL updates and new features like cross play mods and more are a big plus. Also new DLC

It's gonna be a while until Ark2, and no other games are realistically on my radar at the moment

[eternal wigeon]

Ark 2 is supposed to be a lot more different of a game then ark 1 or ascended

And they already stuggling with ark ascended

[drifting river]

y must do it if y wanna play ark online? wont ark1 shut down when ark asa is released

[true fox]

Doing this is hard

[winged dome]

Only Official servers, which I have zero interest in

I'm much more interested in the engine updates, new content, and QoL features

[regal hull]

how long will it be before we get a gameplay trailer

[true fox]

First need a game

[tropic crag]

Which one? ASA, or Ark 2?

[regal hull]

I know but I thought it was to be released later this year or early next year so I thought that they would have gameplay soon

[tropic crag]

Since the channel is kinda for both rn and have both been mentioned in this line of text

[regal hull]

Ark 2

[tropic crag]

At least not this year, maybe next year

[regal hull]

what is ASA I've read about it but I have only just came back to Ark

[tropic crag]

On the gameplay question

[pine basin]

Ark 1.5

Ark survival ascended

[regal hull]

special edition pretty much

[pine basin]

No, a Remake

[tropic crag]

It's Ark in Unreal Engine 5 with cross platform mods and many improvements, it's a whole ass remake basically

[regal hull]

the are making a remaster pretty much

[tropic crag]

Both of which should be pinned here, but aren't... strangely

It's a remake, not a remaster

There's faaaaaar more than just graphics being redone

[pine basin]

Remake actually

There are too many changes, according to the statements so far

[regal hull]

so is it still gonna have the same maps and story just more animals better graphics new maps more notes and other stuff

[fallow niche]

Because #ark-survival-ascended will likely be redone for asa.

[pine basin]

Yes

[fallow niche]

This is for ark 2, but is okay to be chatted about here.

[pine basin]

And an extra map to be disclosed

[regal hull]

how much will it be to buy on release roughly

[pine basin]

39 at first

[tropic crag]

But Ark 2 features in both of those posts, does it not?

[pine basin]

Then 45

[regal hull]

£ or $?

[fallow niche]

Everything is explained in these-

https://survivetheark.com/index.php?/articles.html/community-crunch-355-ark-roadmap-evo-event-and-more-r2075/

https://survivetheark.com/index.php?/articles.html/community-crunch-356-ark-roadmap-update-rhyniognatha-concept-and-more-r2078/

https://survivetheark.com/index.php?/articles.html/community-crunch-368-asa-roadmap-update-asa-comparison-and-more-r2126/

Last crunch is newest info for Ark Survival Ascended

[pine basin]

Us$

[regal hull]

ok

[fallow niche]

We'll pin info as necessary, I'll chat with the admins. Next time just dm Dodo Mail though if you've got suggestions.

[regal hull]

what if you have ASE already

[tropic crag]

Will do 🫡

[pine basin]

Won’t make any difference

[fallow niche]

It's a separate game. You'll still have to buy it.

[regal hull]

that sucks

I'm still getting it though

[tropic crag]

Wasn't trying to throw shade or nothin, just noticed that they weren't pinned is all 😅

[fallow niche]

It's only for PC, Series X/S, PS5.

[regal hull]

will combat be improved

[pine basin]

Probably

They still have to disclose the details

[winged dome]

Overall gameplay is largely the same, save for AI improvements and hopefully better netcode

Other than that, we don't know yet

[fallow niche]

Any information we have (aside from the image comparisons, obviously since those are in multiple crunches and not gameplay itself) are in the crunches I linked above.

[tropic crag]

It's way cheaper than buying the game was before, when they first announced it

[eternal wigeon]

It's the same really, but AI change maybe, or performance maybe

[pine basin]

I don’t think so, based on the ccs above, there are a lot of QoL changes, for example

[winged dome]

Won't really change combat though, right?

[rancid harness]

He said overall

[regal hull]

I hope they do good combat for Ark 2 since they said souls like when it was announced

[eternal wigeon]

Yes apparently ark 2 combat is different

[pine basin]

I don’t know, they’ve said they would talk more about a lot of changes still not disclosed

[rancid harness]

I can't wait for Ark2 ngl

[winged dome]

Ark2 combat will be way different from Ark1 - so hopefully it's a lot cleaner and better than spam clicking

[rancid harness]

The combat is my least favorite thing about Ark1, so the idea of what they want out of ark 2 is very appealing

[regal hull]

I just realized a few days ago who voices rockwell and I don't know how I never heard it before

[winged dome]

Tennant is a relatively recent addition, Rockwell didn't really have any voice lines until Gen2

[pine basin]

On the first cc they’ve finished the new features part with that: “…and more! (seriously, a lot more, this list isn’t exhaustive, but it’ll get super long if we list everything, and there’s more we’ll decide to do between now and launch too)”

[winged dome]

Devs went back and added a bunch of VA for notes and Aberration

[winged dome]

True, hopefully there are combat improvements, but I wouldn't hold much hope until we have more details

[regal hull]

I never heard any voice lines until I got the game on PC cause I used to play on PS4

[split dove]

i'd rather take mutations being fixed to a functioning 20/20 cap first before combat

[pine basin]

Yeah, you are right. We better wait for the full list of changes.

[regal hull]

I fear for the combat on dinos in ark 2 due to the souls like gameplay

I've never seen a game that has souls like combat and mounted combat at the same time

[pine basin]

Do you like the current meta?

[drifting river]

is there any gameplay information in ark2?

[split dove]

ah yes autoclicker combat

[regal hull]

I like the dino combat a bit in ark 1

[pine basin]

I mean, we won’t lose anything if they change it LOL

[verbal wind]

nope

[eternal wigeon]

Upon initial announcement of ARK 2 combat changes ik some people disnt like it

(But im from the PVP community)

[regal hull]

I said a bit but I fear for the "souls like" combat on the dinos in ark 2

[pine basin]

I will get anything different from Ark 1 actually

[tropic crag]

Didn't you already ask this?

[drifting river]

nop

[regal hull]

I know but I haven't really seen a game do mounted combat and souls like combat in the same game and any that have its been bad

[eternal wigeon]

There is little info out there
The combat difference
The AI Differance
The teir of weapons

[regal hull]

All I want is a longsword and I will be happy

[winged dome]

Actual Longsword, and not Monster Hunter Longsword 🙏

[pine basin]

Look, it’s just worthless to discuss that before we are sure about the new features.

But if you read every piece of info pinned in this channel, you might see the changes are@for the better

[regal hull]

lock on mechanics for melee attacks and a normal longsword

[split dove]

lock on can also mean camera lock on

[regal hull]

I mean Witcher 3 style

[drifting river]

hmm.. im also interested in the environment changes

like maybe interacting with nature more detailed.
using gras or crafting more primitive tools

[pine basin]

If it doesn’t rain inside my base, I will be a happy camper

[tropic crag]

I usually go sword and board in games, but not gonna lie I can't resist a gnarly lookin two hander, whether it's a longsword or a great club or the like (preferably bladed, though. Macahuitl works too)

[regal hull]

if you only 2 hand a longsword you don't know how longswords work

[eternal wigeon]

Think it's all like that, but its so far away and little confirmed, not even Ark Ascended has gameplay yh know

[regal hull]

I need a mix of 1 and 2 handed atacks in the animations

[rancid harness]

yes but I like it xD

[drifting river]

maybe holding a bucket and then making a physical action where you put in inside a river and see water filling in.
Maybe its too realistic but i would like this kind of realism.

[tropic crag]

I mean, most of the time, longswords are two handed and made to be wielded as such

[drifting river]

instead of point click hardcoded stuff

[regal hull]

they are versitile weapons made for both

[eternal wigeon]

Could it all be done? Sure
Depends on how detailed and how much time devs have

ARK 2 is also 3rd person perspective, i heard theres no 1st first

[regal hull]

good

[eternal wigeon]

I mean, sad you dont have the option no?
For a dino game you lose the 1st player emerson aspect

[regal hull]

if its 3rd person only it means they'll spend time on it and it will look good

and there will be a mod

eventually

with games that have both you tend to see that 1st person has a good camera but 3rd person moves as if its clamped with a stick to the back of your head

and character animations are usually worse in games with both due to mostly focusing on 1st person mode

with the exception of GTA V

[drifting river]

i always had a thought but wasnt sure if thats realistic.

The enjoyment of the gameplay is based on a large portion on the map.
That means enjoyment will decline linear downwards as you continue explore the map until you cannot do anything new.

My thought was about a map, that recreates itself or a portion of the map through a KI randomly.

That would mean a map can get bigger or change shape.

[eternal wigeon]

There can be multiple maps...
Also decline is normal for most any games

Outside of a game like minecraft exploration is basically unlimited with its generation

[drifting river]

what if you have a dynmaic, ki-extended map that generates new land and sea? that would counter declining and lead to unlimited exploration = unlimited fun.

[eternal wigeon]

I dont think they would do this honestly for ark

Also, who says unlimited explanations is fun? Not everyone like that, can do other things for fun

[split dove]

imagine building a house and the map portion you build on generates into something new wich destroys your whole progress 😂

[tropic crag]

Proc gen isn't the move, they've said they're moving away from it anyways so it's a moot point

[gloomy prawn]

Mine craft style lol infinite loadable biomes. I would get lost for sure.

[drifting river]

ye i also had this problem in mind and then switched to "extending map through random sea or land mass" where KI detects buildings and doesnt erase them.

[eternal wigeon]

I wouldnt see ark doing that lol

[gloomy prawn]

Me either

[verbal wind]

minecraft is fun but I can only really keep interested with it for a month at a time

[eternal wigeon]

Maybe theyd have bigger maps
Or map tlcs change up the map a bit but idk

[gloomy prawn]

I can only stay on it till I finish a build. Then I’m off again

[eternal wigeon]

It's not just about exploration but other aspects of the game yh

[gloomy prawn]

No man sky style terraforming.

Or use a shovel and dig holes like 7 days 2 die.

[verbal wind]

and the exploration doesn't go too far either. it's nice to explore a new world but after the second or third repeat of a biome you've already been through there's not much to see

unless you're REALLY into building massive things or transforming entire sections of the world (a-la Hermitcraft), MC just doesn't have a lot of staying power

[tropic crag]

If Ark became voxel based, we'd never hear the end of it

[tropic crag]

That's what Terraria is for!

Aka better Minceraft imo

[verbal wind]

i've seen the name but not the game

[tropic crag]

Oh man

[gloomy prawn]

2D Minecraft

[verbal wind]

sidescroller?

[tropic crag]

Yerp

[winged dome]

2D Minecraft, but actual gameplay and combat

[verbal wind]

eh, probably fun but I can't keep interest in those anymore

[south lance]

just mod mc

[tropic crag]

Extremely fun but also way off topic now (sorry mods)

[gloomy prawn]

Yeah it did have a better combat system

That was a commercial break, back to ark.

[tropic crag]

True and real

[gloomy prawn]

So what kind of combat system have they explained? I’ve picked up a Conan exiles vibe style combat system for ark 2? Anyone else have a different explanation to what is proposed and planned

[tropic crag]

You pretty much have as much info as we do 😂

[winged dome]

'Souls like' is still pretty vague when you think about it. Does that mean the lock-on system? Slow attacks/stamina management? Rolls and dodges? Or some combination of all the above

Conan I think will be a pretty decent comparison

[gloomy prawn]

Yeah that’s what I picked up with target lock and evade/dodges

With a 3rd person view

If we have bought ASE ASA, and when we preorder ARK2 can we get special skins? For cross generation loyalty? Please thanks.

[winged dome]

Part of my thinks there won't be as many skins - reasoning is if different equipment materials give different stats then it might be beneficial to mask what you're using to throw off enemies

[south lance]

imagine they link asa characters to ark2

[winged dome]

Doubt they will

[south lance]

most likely

but imagine

[gloomy prawn]

Only if you have fully ascended your character. Watch

[south lance]

level 205 to get to ark2 🥴

[gloomy prawn]

We don’t know how far ASA going xD

[south lance]

oh right they dropping new dlc and sh8t

[winged dome]

220! Or 245 if double DLC rumors bare fruit

[eternal wigeon]

Haha Have to play ark offical and max your lvl to play ASA officals, max out to play ARK2

[south lance]

levels are for scrubs anyhow 😅

probably would lose your character on transfer

[eternal wigeon]

Haha

[winged dome]

Classic Ark experience

[gloomy prawn]

So the main character is VD, does that mean we play him in a single player story mode? Or is he a person in our world we communicate with, with our customized survivor

[south lance]

hes just our helena

[eternal wigeon]

I assumed we played as him as main character

[south lance]

im gonna guess we come after him and read his notes

[winged dome]

That, or some kind of quest NPC like they have in Conan

I doubt we're playing as him

[south lance]

i doubt we will exist at the same time as him anyhow

[gloomy prawn]

That’s what I was thinking.

[eternal wigeon]

I mean, they could make you play as multiple people in a single player campain
But yh, x to doubt

[gloomy prawn]

I doubt if if the campaign is still sandbox.

[winged dome]

I don't think Ark2 will have a campaign. Every bit of Ark is designed for a multiplayer experience

[gloomy prawn]

Well if he’s a in game NPC I would assume they add villages.

[eternal wigeon]

There're suppose to have enemy npc villages to fight

[winged dome]

Wonder if we can uh ... 'make friends' with them like in Conan 😂

[gloomy prawn]

Drag them away

[winged dome]

With consent

[gloomy prawn]

Tend to my crops

I doubt we will get to “tame” survivors

[eternal wigeon]

Caveman like barbaric people and consent 💀

[eternal wigeon]

You get get them pregnant already 💀
Reapers

[gloomy prawn]

Spend 24 hours taming a max level survivor, dies from alien bursting out chest

[winged dome]

Game over man, game over!

[tropic crag]

"tame" human
they die to a chestburster
tame chestburster
???
profit

[eternal wigeon]

Reapers looking for high lvl survivors to tame and breed 💀

[gloomy prawn]

Chestburster gets killed by your turrets you didn’t know to turn off cause you weren’t aware.
=no profits
=loss of ammo

[drifting river]

does someone know wha asa went from free to price

[winged dome]

Asa was never officially announced to be free, there was just a tweet about an engine upgrade. The project evolved into so much more and thus became a remake with a ton of new features

[stray elm]

Technically it was never free.
The UE5 port was in-development for a small bit and was going to be free, but was canceled for ASA instead.

[tropic crag]

Yeah, ASA has never been free, from the get go. The engine upgrade was, but ASA =/= engine upgrade

[pine basin]

Id say it’s just semantics. They can say ASA is different from the engine upgrade, but the reality is, to me, they just decided to change the scope because Ark 2 was too far away.

[eternal wigeon]

It was maybe 60$ at start? With ark2 in the bundle, dlcs each 20$

Then it changed to 40$ no ark2 each dlc 20$

Now it's 40$ all dlc included?

[pine basin]

No

It was initially 60 for Asa + Ark 2, but we would need to buy the ASA dlcs. Then they’ve changed to: 60 for ASA and all its DLCs. Now they decided to release ASA as an early access title for 40 in the beginning, then 45 and probably more for the final release.

[regal hull]

Will ASA not come with all the DLC's

along with the main game

[desert swallow]

sounds like a cashier scam

[stray elm]

Launch? No, but released over time.

But buying ASA buys everything of the legacy-game.

[regal hull]

They should be free with ASA just like every game when they do a remake

[stray elm]

That's....what I fucking said

Have you not read the CC's?

[regal hull]

No I only just joined back to ark and I used to play on playstation so I never saw them

[stray elm]

ASA is a single-game bundle that comes with everything from Survival-Evolved.
45$ USD for the base-game and all 5 paid DLC's.

[regal hull]

The way you worded sounded a bit odd in my head and I thought you meant you would have to buy them as the release

again

[stray elm]

Way I worded it was just fine.

Legacy-game is 'Survival-Evolved'

[regal hull]

I'm an idiot

[tropic forge]

humm, last cc they dint mention all dlc's to be in that change price

[harsh spear]

i wonder how they do it with servers cuz if only the island is available, there has to be a lot of island servers and later on they would be less populated with new maps released. have they fused servers in the past ?

[pine basin]

Yeah, they call it great migrations

[tropic forge]

they did some clean up at some moment when seom servers got extreme low ppl (1-3) but thats what they mention very vague

[tropic forge]

that was legacy servers when ASE was about to officially release so aint the same

[pine basin]

That’s when they closed servers, at least on mega tribes pvp

[tropic forge]

yeh cant talk about pvp but pve still had servers ence their name change from official to legacy servers

[pine basin]

My guess: they learned from the past and the island was rebuilt better. I guess the attractiveness of the other maps won’t be so great over the island anymore

[tropic forge]

no not really, as said on last cc ASA will release whit island alone and not transfers for a while (cant remember if was for a while or was until SE release)

[pine basin]

Yeah, but my point is they never closed the “new” servers maps, just the legacy ones. At least on mega tribes I didn’t see them closing maps.

But I’m not playing officials for a while now

[pine basin]

It was segmented

As soon as SE was released, it was possible to transfer from SE to TI, but it took some time until we could transfer the other way around

[eternal wigeon]

I mean not necessarily, they can release later maps a bit less polished but can maybe do tlc update on maps and revamp idk

Dont know if they would care ofc to do that

[pine basin]

I mean, on the last CC they’ve said they are learning a lot while “rebuilding” the island. So I guess they will improve the map with things we liked from the other maps. Meaning, maybe, The Island will be on par with the other maps

[tropic forge]

just remember ASA aint a remaster game like the ones we play in the past, its the first and only of the kind to be called remaster and release as early access

[pine basin]

It’s a remake, not a remaster

[tropic forge]

well i mention before it was a remake and some here insisted that i was wrong about it

[eternal wigeon]

Not sure tbey would change core elements of island or any map honestly

[tropic forge]

there's no time for that lol

its early access

[pine basin]

Well, it’s on the last CC they are rebuilding the island. The rest is just my gut feeling

[pine basin]

By definition, based on what they are aiming, it’s a remake

[tropic forge]

i know i even google it the definition of remaster/remake but some of the daily users here said i was wrong 🤣

[pine basin]

Well, anyone is entitled to have their opinions, but there are definitions for those words. And what they are aiming for ASA is considered a remake.

[tropic crag]

Nobody told him he was wrong, he's just, well, Fox

[tropic forge]

but the question, is it to be a remake are they gonna really start a new foundation code or was just a bluff, cause if is a new code line i think they have to do for everything else or it will make same mess as ASE is

[tropic crag]

Everyone knows it's a remake

[pine basin]

It’s a new engine. The source code is different of course

Some stuff might get ported, but I believe they are building it from the ground up

Avoiding old issues

[tropic forge]

then again be prepare for a remater/remake early access of one of the kind

[pine basin]

Im fine with that

[tropic crag]

I wish I knew what was going on in his head to think that that matters, in any way

[eternal wigeon]

If they can code it in such a way it's not fundamentally broken as ark, that'd be a great improvement

The coding has always been the excuse they cant fix much, always a patch/ bandaid, so they better fix it with ark2 or ascended

[stray elm]

DLC's are part of the base-game now

[eternal wigeon]

Yh unless they go back on their word and change that, which wildcard would never do ofc 💀

[south lance]

if that happens the game will be so dead itd be pointless to play

unless you wanna just do single player

which like, does not seem like itll be much better this time around

[winged dome]

Fair amount of the QoL updates will help with SP too. Plus mods for console

[south lance]

i want more content

ik a dude who knew nothing about ark to finishing everything in like a month

[eternal wigeon]

I heard more dinos, 1 story dlc map, but it's mostly the same ol with quality of life and graphics

[south lance]

so much for that sandbox experience

[winged dome]

Flipside is Professional YouTubers/Ark players who don't even know basic/mid level mechanics. It's more about the individual than the game, most times.

[south lance]

most people never learn all mechanics but theh dont need to

only people who might know all the mechanics is some 8000 hour dude still playing on official for some reas9n

[eternal wigeon]

Literally me
And even with thosands kf hrs you can still leanr smth new

[winged dome]

Nah, guarantee there's plenty of things even those people don't know because they only ever think of the game from one perspective (PvP, metas, ect)

[eternal wigeon]

But what is finish the game anyways? Boss fights?
Would u say the same for minecraft

[south lance]

that perspective brings you into contact with more of arks mechanics than other ways

[eternal wigeon]

Kinda true, i went to notek pvp, had to learn more old school methods, and learned some weird pve mechanics

A horse laso can pull knocked out dinos...
A dino that can hatch your eggs....

[south lance]

ima just chill with my 1200 hours and wait for the next game to become a real gamer

[eternal wigeon]

That's what a lot seem tk be doing as well

[mint swan]

Is something known about what ark 2 is going to be or if it's a theme or anything I'm not very well aware of and if someone knows please tell me

[winged dome]

I can definitely say it's going to be a game with Dinosaurs

[eternal wigeon]

3rd person only
"Souls like combat"
AI human enemies

[mint swan]

Why the 3rd person only bruh

[winged dome]

Oh here we go again

[eternal wigeon]

💀

[serene onyx]

Oh boy

[tropic forge]

lol just sough a random clip that show up on youtube about the latest cc and gotta say, damn that dude hammer all the nails down, so many red flags so little time

[winged dome]

Using YouTube for news and deciding your thoughts

[eternal wigeon]

Not cringe... dependent on the sources, multiple is nice for potential diff perspectives

[tropic forge]

actually that clip just confirm all my thoughts about last cc, but i understand that hardcore players dont wanna hear any negative from their belove games, its being perfect before and will continue too

[eternal wigeon]

What do u mean by hardcore
Id call myself hardcore, but hate ARK 1 currently

[tropic forge]

i was replying to the other guy not you

[desert swallow]

you speak to one hardcore player you speak to all of us.

[mighty lion]

It's peak cringe when they make tutorial vids and do things so inefficiently.

[eternal wigeon]

Actually agree
Unless its just outdated tutorial...

[south lance]

if the method is any percent cheeseless yk theres something better

[gritty dock]

Is ASA going to be for ps4 and xbox ones or is it strictly new gen consoles

[tropic crag]

Strictly current gen, thankfully

[eternal wigeon]

Yh Rip PS4 and Xbox 1 🙏

[lime forge]

Super pissed the remake isn’t gonna be available on my N64

[drifting river]

are there ark2 gameplay leaks

what gpu do you suggest ofr UE5

[eternal wigeon]

Ark 2 gameplay leaks, no
We've just seen the trailer footage

ARK ASA people have showed off what Ark could look like in Unreal Engine 5 to give people an idea what to look forward to

[true fox]

Cinematic only

Which you can create without even having a game. Which they don’t

[eternal wigeon]

Yh for the ark2 stuff
That's what i meant

[true fox]

Yeah I just don’t want anyone to get their hopes up

[eternal wigeon]

Should be obvious to anyone
If there has been no game play released of ASA this close to release, then smth is up with that....
And no way ARK 2 got anything

They coulda probably done a better job hyping it up showing off little clips of actually stuff in game
Instead of pictures concept art

[tropic crag]

What? No, get your hopes up. Don't be a hater when there's literally nothing to hate yet. But keep your expectations low. Ever heard the saying "hope for the best, and be prepared for the worst"?

Also, all the trailers thus far for Ark 2 have been rendered in-engine using in-game assets, so uh, may want to check your sources on that one 😅

[eternal wigeon]

Low expectations = little disappointment

[lime forge]

I don’t think that’s how that works. I think that’s what cynical people tell themselves to cope.

[eternal wigeon]

Yep 🫡
Exactly Me

And when my low expectations are surpassed im happy

Ez irl exploit
Immediate patch needed

[lime forge]

I just revel in the disappointment. I’m not lowering my standards over a failure.

[lime forge]

That happiness is entirely self manufactured but if it wheels your wagon then be about it sir.

[eternal wigeon]

Iv seen some friends and family who are the complete opposite mentality.
Always Hyped
Always high expectations and confident

Usally let down and depressed right after not being realistic

[blissful perch]

Keeping permanently low expectations can result in permissiveness for poor quality products

[lime forge]

If you take two people who love Ark and tell them it’s getting delayed for years one of them is gonna be no less disappointed than the other. It’s not the happiness or disappointment that are changing. It’s how you look at it.

[blissful perch]

However, keeping high expectations that struggle to remain connected to reality is equally questionable because it leads to people being upset for…literally no reason

[eternal wigeon]

In the case of Wildcard id call it low expectations "realistic expectations"

[blissful perch]

I’m pretty neutral about ark delays tbh

I’ve not been disappointed in a long time by an ark delay. I just assume whatever release isn’t out until I can click “download”. I moved my expectations to be realistic

[eternal wigeon]

O same here
I just find it funny to meme on ark with
And it's not delays in of itself that would annoy me it's other aspects

[tropic crag]

I'm about it, we get a more polished game and get to hear people witch and moan about it? Win win tbh

[blissful perch]

Couldn’t agree more. The reason I’m so eager to see ark 2 when it’s ready is that it’s the best chance I’ve got to see some of the major flaws of ark 1 fixed

The stuff that actually annoyed me while I was playing the game

[eternal wigeon]

Im a minority of opinion here coming from ARK pvp community

Only fix i care about is the cheating lol

Anything else is just a bonus

Like graphics in most any game, i don't really ever care about when gaming... it's the other aspects

Other gamers may love great graphics tho

[tropic crag]

That's a decent way to look at it, I suppose

Better than most in here, that's for sure

[blissful perch]

I’m extremely big on mechanics so I respect that

I have beef with breeding and the stat basis for gameplay (rather than mechanical or intellectual skill)

[eternal wigeon]

O you don't like dino stats and mutations?

[blissful perch]

Correct

[eternal wigeon]

I mean, how some clusters work is they have seasonal wipes to keep it fresh and no one has lines that get heavily mutated, do you prefer that style

Popular with PVP

[blissful perch]

I think it’s a much better approach for sure

[eternal wigeon]

I mean i get your opinion, id say mutations are cool aspect, if anything, you could have better balancing with stats and dinos

[lime forge]

Breeding is cool af. It’s my favorite endgame activity.

Including mutations

[blissful perch]

It’s the only endgame activity for ark 1 lol

[blissful perch]

That’s at least a compromise I could bite the bullet on…begrudgingly lol

[split dove]

the only other endgame activity that requires more than the 2 braincell material farming

[eternal wigeon]

Sadly i dont think "Game balance" is really in wildcards vocabulary

Tbey do sometimes add balance patches
Almost always good
Just rarely enough for real balance

[blissful perch]

Agree balance in ark 1 is awful lol, which is why I’d like to see if that changes in ark 2

I’m highly skeptical it will in ASA lol

[lime forge]

For PvE yeah. PvP endgame is the beginning. PvErs do desperately need end game activity though. It can’t just be building and breeding

[blissful perch]

PvP endgame is whatever WC wants it to be

Take out mutation breeding and PvP still happens just fine. Less gatekeeping even

See; wipe servers