ark-2

[split dove]

quick maths it seems

[astral token]

I always think its 25 sorry 💀

[south lance]

np

still, even 40 levels is far better than dealing with someone who minmaxed 254 levels

[astral token]

Nah just me shedding a few braincells

[split dove]

you are looking at ark chats after all

[south lance]

max for one stat would probably be around 70 levels i think

ignoring leveling after that

idk how bred levels and experience levels exactly differ

i think experience levels are exponential increase of 1.017 or smthn like that while bred are linear increases

hope someone can correct me 🥴

[blissful perch]

I think it’s 40 total stat point, 20 from father 20 from mother

Which imo is still way too much, but it’s so exponentially better than capping that I won’t complain lol

[blissful perch]

The % gain per player point varies by creature. “Wild stat” points are linear and fixed to each creature, and “player stat” points are % based…but they pull from the creature’s wild stat total not the base stat total, so it’s exponential

[south lance]

shucks

oh wait i remember some creatures gain like 5%

[short fulcrum]

Hmm...
Maybe they should honestly lower to cap to 10 on each side

[blissful perch]

In an ideal world it’s 0/0

And mutations only provide fun colors

[south lance]

the exponential is the same, it just gets scaled by wild stat point i think

a(b)^n

wild stat should be a

[blissful perch]

Wild stats are always linear

[south lance]

yes

they are a linearly scaling value

[blissful perch]

No I think it’s fixed

[south lance]

wait

[blissful perch]

A wild point in hp is always worth the same value on a raptor

[south lance]

nvm my exponential equation doesnt apply

[short fulcrum]

Another thing that needs re-balancing is armor and weapon values

[blissful perch]

I’d prefer way higher durability but way lower armor values

[south lance]

actually it does 😵‍💫

man middle school math is hard

[south lance]

the wild stat value remains the same, i just mean that this part linearly scales with mutations and such

[south lance]

but what happens when you add player levels is a % increase which can be modelled by this eq

with wild stats being a and b being the percent increase and n being the number of player/exp levels

[blissful perch]

Correct

I get the general benefit of doing it that way - you want people to be rewarded for a high level tame rather than leveling a low level one, but it does get stupid quick with mutations

[south lance]

atm youll often find people with 8x more stats in a certain place than if you used a wild tame, 30 ish levels vs 254

this ranges from 4x to 8x tho, 8x for single stat increase and 4x for splitting in 2. Yall get the idea tho, its a pretty big increase

mut cap should reduce this to being around 2x to 3x i think unless theres no limit to how minmaxed wild dinos can have their stat distributions

[blissful perch]

Purely based on wild levels yes. Add player levels and it gets silly

[south lance]

since you can only allocate 40 points

[south lance]

so its possible to find a 150 with like, 140 levels in melee?

[south lance]

the player levels are actually not too bad here

[blissful perch]

Dunno, but it’s probably 1/million chance

[south lance]

that b^n term ends up being the same at max player levels, its just b^71 or b^88 multiplied by bred stats

[blissful perch]

It’s…insanely bad. The wild creature has say 100 hp and a player level adding 1% gets you 101. Now you’re at 800hp and a player level adding 1% gets you 808 hp. You now have 8x more effective player levels

[south lance]

that applies to everyones tame

its terrible for pve tho i just realized

also for the love of god they better not have any 5% stat increases lmfao

73x initial stats at 88 levels

[blissful perch]

The values are all fine if you can’t mutation scale lol

[south lance]

the mutation scale doesnt affect the exponential part, its purely multiplicative

[blissful perch]

The more mutations (IE wild stat points) you get, the MORE each player point is worth

You get exponentially more raw stat points per player point

[south lance]

that doesnt check out with the equation im using so one of us is wrong here

[blissful perch]

We’re probably using different interpretations. Not really relevant beyond stating the obvious game breaking nature of mutations

[south lance]

assume 400% melee, increase by 1.017
400*1.017*1.017*1.017....
is equal to
400* 1.017^n

the 400 term just scales that last part, but because of how you can get infinite mutations tou can scale a creatures stats by almost an order of magnitude, apparently theres some weird cap that prevents going above 255 iirc?

im still thinking of this very pvp centrically, so ultimately what i care about is how capped tames compare to tamed tames

pve is gonna get fucked by the exp levels regardless

except for bosses ig

[tropic forge]

love those theories, yeh i guess a tame creature is able to do caves to get 1 artifact or you can spend an entire day lock inside base making ammo armor foods etc so you can get gang up by creatures that come behind walls or you get screw by a little of lag and loose all that time you use to prep for that one artifact 🤣 yeh you will have lot more ppl playing for sure

[south lance]

?

[blissful perch]

Fox is easily confused, don’t sweat it 😅

[stray elm]

What is?

[astral token]

Maewings are exclusive to the Genesis ship

[stray elm]

Canonically?
That we know, yes.

[astral token]

[stray elm]

Maewings if I recall where Terran-created.

[astral token]

Any specific URE created?

[stray elm]

I believe technically the reapers, as they where made from the ARK's post destroyed-Aberration.

[astral token]

[stray elm]

But the only ones that I can think of that the URE directly made, where stuff like enforcers, drones, mechs, attack-drones, etc.

Basically the tek-creatures.

[astral token]

Ic ic

[tropic forge]

"In an ideal world it’s 0/0", aint me thats confusing at all, maybe you should spend more time whit official rules instead of those unofficials whit lvl1 wild creatures 🤣

[blissful perch]

If you need mutations to survive in the regular ark world…idk what to tell you lol

[tropic forge]

survive not at all but when a cave as 300+ lvl creatures inside goodluck doing it on foot

[blissful perch]

I ran most 300+ level caves with consolidated imprinted tames - no mutations. Or on foot

[tropic forge]

good for you

[blissful perch]

That being said, on foot with capped flak and a pump is also cheaty, so I’ll concede that 😂

[stray elm]

You guys saying you can beat ARK without mutations?

[blissful perch]

I’m saying you don’t need mutations to survive on the normal map

[stray elm]

Right

[blissful perch]

IE, any non boss, non cave/event/mission

[stray elm]

It's only really useful for PvP, or overkilling shit on PvE.

Nah, you can do alpha bosses non-mutated.
Harder, but doable.

[blissful perch]

Fox says that without mutations he instantly dies to the local wildlife. His call ig, but I’m not sure that justifies needing mutations

[stray elm]

He's bad at the game.

[blissful perch]

On an unrelated and imo cooler note, I really want to see improved AI pathing settings for tames. A “single file” mode for example to navigate tight caves or move stealthy would be the coolest thing ever

The image of a pack navigating a cave like that is just so damn cool

[desert swallow]

I prefer the "stumble all over each other AI"

[nova sonnet]

Its pleasure riding a 4000% melee mana and obliterating the unsuspecting beach bob at West Zone 2 😈

[violet peak]

Anyone know if there will be cross arks released with ASA?

[split dove]

you mean crossplay? if so yes ASA is said to have cross-platform modding and multiplayer

[violet peak]

Nah official cross ark servers.. they are clusters where there is only 1 of each map

[split dove]

that hasn't really been disclosed yet

[violet peak]

👍

[little socket]

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[livid furnace]

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[little socket]

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[livid furnace]

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[little socket]

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[tropic forge]

🍿

[astral token]

[fair sun]

@little socket Please refrain from spamming :)

[little socket]

Ok

[pliant iron]

I hope they don’t delay ark two till 2270

[tropic crag]

[subtle lodge]

Imagine the ark 2 bosses

What would they be?

[random sparrow]

Since they showed a chameleon/lizard/flower type creature in the first trailer I think it will be creatures native to the planet most probably

[untold ingot]

They already showed one lol

[south mortar]

The same apparently

[subtle lodge]

Oh

[south mortar]

At least they shown a concept art for the spider. There could be more of course.

[tropic crag]

When did they show a boss? Am I missing something?

[clever vortex]

That wasn't the broodmother. It was just a regular araneo.

[clever vortex]

Nah, you're not missing anything. They're just getting their spiders confused a little.

[south mortar]

I mean, it’s a giant spider. If she’s called Suzan instead, does it matter?

[tropic crag]

It matters that people know that the spider revealed is not a boss and just a regular tame, I don't know how anyone even came to that conclusion in the first place

Why would a boss creature be almost barely taller than a human

[south lance]

miniboss

seems like they are incorporating the size decrease into the lore

i wonder if that means anything for what the artistic inspiration for creature design will end up like

like yeah you can always add whatever you want and justify it through improvised lore later but i think setting theme helps limit the range of creatures thatd fit and maybe subconsciously limits mechanics that way

[tropic crag]

It's not even a miniboss, whe

[south lance]

is it explicitly said to be tameable

is it explicitly said to not be a miniboss

[tropic crag]

Is it explicitly said to be a boss? Lmao

[south lance]

i said miniboss

[tropic crag]

Whatever, same difference

[south lance]

alpha creatures in ase are minibosses

[tropic crag]

They'd be pretty amiss to not announce a boss as a boss imo

[south lance]

i mean the difference between the main bosses and the minibosses, using alphas as analogues to ark2 minibosses, is pretty large. Enough to make it something not so important as to go parading this new boss reveal

i dont think theyd want to reveal bosses for a while tbh, maybe a glimpse in the final gameplay trailer

[tropic crag]

Bosses and minibosses are essentially close enough that they'd differentiate only for semantics. Either way, it's araneomorphus, the same genus name as the araneo from Ark 1. Pretty easy to tell it's a tame to me 🤷‍♂️

[untold ingot]

The broodmother is also araneomorphus lol

[clever vortex]

It matters because it means that it isn't a boss. The broodmother is a boss, but the araneos are regular creatures that are tamable and act as minions during the broodmother fight. There is no mention of the araneo suddenly being a boss in ARK 2 and its concept art has it standing over a human skeleton so we know its not that much bigger (if at all) than its ARK 1 counterpart.

[clever vortex]

Given that there is only one broodmother and broodmothers don't appear on any other maps that feature araneomorphus, it seems like if it is an araneo, then its one thats been genetically modified to be far larger than the regular ones and isn't something that occurs naturally.

[untold ingot]

Size != boss qualification

[south mortar]

Did you see the same concept ad everyone else? There’s a huge spider next to smaller ones

[clever vortex]

look under the spider and you'll see a human skeleton for a sense of scale

[tropic crag]

There's no shot that an Ark boss would be anything even close to the size of a human, so uhhhhh

[untold ingot]

This is ark2. Not ark1.

[tropic crag]

For this franchise at least, size = boss qualification

[tropic crag]

No, really?

[clever vortex]

Still. We know from the trailer that rexes are tamable and they are still massive. If the boss was only slightly bigger than a human, it would look pretty ridiculous when it somehow tanks hits from creatures three to four times its size.

[untold ingot]

I would remind that ark2 is focusing on playerbased combat at least as much as Dino combat. It's very possible for a human sized boss in a location inaccessible to dinos

Add the fact that it is in a cave and not the open, and I think it's perfectly reasonable for it to be a mini boss

[clever vortex]

That much is true, but it does seem unlikely that a creature that was tamable in ARK 1 would be made into a boss in the sequel, since you'd have at least some players getting upset over suddenly not being able to tame their favourite creature (unless of course it works like a mini version of the titans).

[untold ingot]

I wouldn't expect the concept art to be a Tamable form. In any case, it's pretty much explicitly stated to be a descendent of the brood

[tropic crag]

Kinda like how the OG araneo were pretty much explicitly stated to be the children of the broodmother, eh?

[blissful perch]

If I see a human sized ark 2 boss I’m crying and hiding

Also extremely feasible to have a small ark 2 boss. I’d actually really hope to see more of them. Have some strict requirements on what tames (or no tames) can be brought to the fight and encourage new and diverse combat experiences

[worldly garden]

It's called the Araneomorphus, and the Araneo in ARK 1 is also the Araneomorphus. Not sure why people are acting like it is anything more than just a Spider.

In fact it could just be the mother with it's brood that might appear in the procedural events. You could define that as a mini-boss, but it is no way one of ARK 2's bosses.

[desert swallow]

Ark 2's final boss is the Delayomorphus

[full crest]

How much is ark 2 gonna be'

[worldly garden]

No-one knows, and probably won't know till towards end of next year.

[blissful perch]

I’m not sure why people are asking about this or care about this rn

Game’s a long way off - and if you’re in dire financial straights such that you need to know +/- $10 on a new game by next year I’m skeptical you should be buying ark 2

[worldly garden]

Yeah cost of ARK 2 isn't even on my list of concerns or interests.

[wary reef]

[south lance]

waiting on asa mechanic rework update

thats all i really care about besides playing around with concepts for ark2

tho honestly a lot of those concepts can get wedged into asa for better or worse

idr which would be notably better in asa vs ark2

cause idr the concepts

(concepts created in this channel not the concept art)

[blissful perch]

Same. I’m here for the game design news 😅

[south lance]

gotta reread the original community crunch again to scour for implied mechanic reworks to complain about

Unreal Engine 5 Overhaul with Nanite, Lumen and RTXDI
Dynamic Water
Interactive Foliage
Unreal Engine 5 performance gains: instanced-rendering (large-bases etc.), threaded server networking, and native physics engine
Cross-platform Multiplayer
This includes cross-platform accounts and cross-progression, cross-voice chat & friends, etc. No matter what platform you start playing on, you can access your account, character, dinos, and items on a different platform for the ultimate cross-platform experience.
Cross-platform Modding
We recognize the power of giving players the tools and capability to define their survival experience, so we want to take cross-platform one step further by working with Overwolf to introduce an industry-first cross-platform modding experience where mods created on PC are delivered directly to end-users’ consoles from a custom modding backend.
The modding capability will include FULL blueprinting support ;), stacked mods, and maps. Everything that is currently possible on the Steam version of ARK: Survival Evolved and more will be possible on the new system and be available for end-users to play on consoles in all modes.
Premium Mods: Reviewed by Overwolf and Wildcard for quality control and value, Mod authors will optionally be able to specify price points for their Mods (with 50% of the price point going to the Mod author). This is necessary to pay for the custom infrastructure required for Overwolf to support, administrate, and deliver Mods to the console.
We plan on streamlining the process of upgrading legacy ARK: Survival Evolved mods to the next-generation platform. We plan to reach out to current/former sponsored modders in preparation for the launch of ASA with the tools they need to get their mods ready before the launch.

Cross-platform Anti-Cheat
Survival of the Fittest
SOTF will be integrated into the main product as a new fully-supported game mode. It will have a dedicated team that will continue to work on more gameplay changes, mechanical improvements, quality of life, maps, and balance adjustments. The initial mode will be revamped with an exclusive ARK: Survival Ascended update, including:
Upgraded to Unreal Engine 5 with complete cross-platform and cross-modding support (the SOTF UE5 source content will be released for modders to utilize as they wish within ASA)
Scorched Earth SOTF Map
Matchmaking queue
Character and Creature customization with cosmetics
Local Lobby where you can group up with your friends, configure the look of your survivor and dinos, and queue up for lobbies together
Lots of bug-fixes and balance and functionality improvements
Art Assets are being upgraded throughout the entire game
Newly-designed holiday events take advantage of the next-gen pipeline, released as mods, so they’re always available to play!
New content, QOL improvements, balance, and gameplay changes, including but not limited to:
Updated mini-map (pan, zoom, pings, etc – similar to the SOTF mini-map)
New structures (display cases, smaller TEK Teleporters) & building QOL improvements (snap fixes, increased foundation support, foundation height adjustments, and more)
Queueing System
New third-person camera (with the option to opt out)
Directional Sprinting and Walking
Ping system
Gamepad cursor
Chibi Slot and Skins Tab
Balance passes (e.g. Cave Entrances, MEKs, Aberration Creatures, more breedable creatures, etc)
…and more! (seriously, a lot more, this list isn’t exhaustive, but it’ll get super long if we list everything, and there’s more we’ll decide to do between now and launch too)

they are gonna add in more tek teleporters

smaller ones at that

rathole support :(

can we just get tek prefabs

if the games gonna lean harder on tek may as well

like a cryopod but for 50by50by50 structures

itd make building so much easier

[full crest]

Does all of ark 1 get shut down in a guest

August

[worldly garden]

Only the official servers, and the fact it will no longer get new content etc.

[full crest]

Oh that’s fine then #

[winged dome]

^ My thought exactly 😂

[mint swan]

Ugh I want ark 1 to last longer

Is the ark in august cost money?

[blissful perch]

Yes

[stray elm]

Should've played ARK when it first came out nearly 8 years ago.

[mint swan]

You don’t even know me

I bet I have more hours than u

[stray elm]

'tells you that you should've played the game at its prime if you wanted it to last longer'
-'proceeds to want to do an ego-contest of who has more hours.'

[mint swan]

How many hours u have?

[stray elm]

9k between PC and Xbox.

What about you?

[cosmic moat]

Im just affollino thru this server and came across this

10/10 very entertaining

[stray elm]

This is a normal, everyday convocation.

[cosmic moat]

Lmaoooo

Not suprised tbh, Ark players are either super egotistical, complete assholes or like the nicest people you’ll ever meet

[stray elm]

By the way, do you think it's reasonable to respond to someone that 'wished to have more time with ARK-1' that they should've played the game during it's nearly decade lifespan?

[cosmic moat]

Not in the slightest 😭 I was cringing reading that bro Lmaoo

People are people man, can’t do nun abt it

[stray elm]

I find it funny that some people will default to the 'how many hours you got?'
Like bruh, hours don't mean shit if you're not good at the game.
Someone with less hours can be better and have more knowledge from the game then someone who has 20k+ hours.

[cosmic moat]

For reaaaaal

[south lance]

did you just change your name mid convo

[cosmic moat]

I wanna say I only have 1.5k hrs and I still like to think I’m somewhat good

[south lance]

i have around that or less

about 70% is afk or bobbing on foot tho

i can certify that i have the least amount of hours of any active person here

[cosmic moat]

Naw I just changed it cuz I had that name for too long Lmao

[south lance]

lol aight

[winged dome]

Yet here I am using the same handle for everything and haven't changed it since I started actually using the Internet

[mighty yoke]

Question about ASA, will we be able to move current ASE worlds to ASA? or Will it be a full full new game maps different. I assume we wont be able to transfer worlds just asking

[tropic forge]

🍿

[winged dome]

No

[tropic forge]

same game better graphics some new stuff no transfers from old ark

[sour flicker]

It will be legendary

[untold ingot]

That might be too far lol

[south lance]

whatever trend ase was heading towards, asa is gonna be that but itll be easier to get some balance passes that the devs probably wanted to do

its otherwise going to be very little different except for modding

[tropic crag]

X to doubt

[south lance]

until a mechanic that significantly changes breeding and progression happens im confident with this

[blissful perch]

From a content and gameplay perspective perhaps. I think graphically and performance wise we can safely say it’ll be a step up. Same (hopefully) with the maps being cleaned up

[south lance]

thats what i imagine its gonna be most different in

[blissful perch]

I do agree if a progression (and def breeding) pass isn’t done I can’t imagine the basic gameplay being much different

[south lance]

thats what makes me most jaded overall

like im cool with the ark2 delay and ase sunsetting but if they end up making the same game but a little more polished idk if ill play asa

maybe if the mods are good

but i dont see more modmakers coming if the games the same shit which ultimately is what will affect new player retention the most imo and thus most bottleneck how many unique mods get added over the coming years

maybe ill buy asa a couple years after release when the mod community has upped production regardless if new players come in or not

[tropic crag]

The mod authors will port the popular mods, that's kinda a given

[south lance]

the popular mods arent enough

need more

[blissful perch]

there does probably need to be NEW mod content, or at minimum new updates...which isn't infeasible given UE5 and/or ASA may be a strong inspiration

[jovial agate]

i literally can't believe they're pushing out this ark 1.5 instead of just focusing on ark 2, literal cash grab. so many people are going to lose a huge part of their lives for these smucks to make a few extra bucks

[stray elm]

Literally all live-service game servers will and have shut down, this is jus how things are.
Things die off.
As for ARK-2, they'd rather wait an extra year to have more experience with an engine that just came out.
Whether you like it or not, it's just smarter to test stuff like new engines on pre-existing games, then make a whole new game on an engine you're not familiar with.

[idle nimbus]

tbh i dont know why asa is a thing either
they could just keep the servers going and wait untill ark 2
too late to change it now though

[jovial agate]

they don't need to create a whole new game to test the new engine, they could put playtests out for a few weeks at a time and make changes accordingly. also not charge you full price triple a game for an interm game

like no matter way you spin it they're being greedy

[jovial agate]

that's what I'm saying keep them up until ark 2 comes out and have playtests in a few months from now until ark 2 comes out

shoulda coulda wouldnt have because money

[idle nimbus]

they are a company at the end of the day

[untold ingot]

Yes, because it's totally greedy to expect to make money from a buisness

[untold ingot]

Official is dead and dying. Keeping them open doesn't do anything except molify the few who still play there

[worldly garden]

It isn't an interim game though. ASA is not a stop gap until ARK 2. They made this clear in the roadmap posts.

[winged dome]

Engine updates, bunch of QoL features, cross platform play and modding, a whole new DLC, community created creatures for every map - way more than a 'hold over game'

[sacred marlin]

I feel like there will be some changes like yeah they said game play will be mostly the same but more stuff map changes ect

[sacred marlin]

Yeah exactly it's for the ppl that want nothing to do with ark 2

[wise charm]

Even though the game has been delayed by years, somehow I get the feeling the game still won't be finished when it releases. They have done it with all the dlc for the ark so far. And at this point nothing will surprise me. I couldn't have lower expectations.

[sacred marlin]

It's like damn my expectations were low but holy fuck meme

[sacred marlin]

Then you will not like my amount of days

[wise charm]

May not my months

Idk why ark is so addictive yet terrible

Lol

[tropic crag]

No shit, it's going to release in early access, that's kinda the point 🤣

[rose knot]

Try to survive 7+12 more month until end of 2024 so many people die by accident each day

[south lance]

[blissful perch]

People swung by here enraged that ark 2 wasn’t going to be “ark 1 but fixed”, and WC responded to that by working on two entirely new games that will act as sequels to ark 1. I wonder how many people who wanted this remaster as “ark 2” are angry about having to pay for ASA

[split dove]

common ark chatter hypocrites

[icy kindle]

Aren’t they bundling asa and ark 2 together for steam and Xbox though

[blissful perch]

No

[verbal wind]

that changed

[icy kindle]

Changed? Ugh

[verbal wind]

people got butthurt over that

[nova sonnet]

the beach bob watching in horror as i vaporize his lvl 43 parasaur by unleashing millions of volts on it with my 450 lightning wyvern:

[blissful perch]

Me excited to never see that again if breeding gets nerfed 😇

[icy kindle]

Asa if it fulfills my needs of modding cross platform playing will work better for me though. My boyfriend doesn’t like playing pc but I do and I don’t like playing on console

[nova sonnet]

matter not

[icy kindle]

I’ll buy it anyway so we can still play together cross platform if it can be modded like they claim. We don’t use big mods just eco decorations and s+

[nova sonnet]

the beaches will be stained with the blood of the innocent regardless if they fix breeding

[blissful perch]

Oh for sure. But tastefully

[nova sonnet]

should defo adjust stats on dinos before touching breeding

remove shadowmane xoxo

[blissful perch]

Both would be good

[nova sonnet]

breeding is rarely the problem xdd

on official servers everyone has capped tames so it even playing field

just gotta find em

[blissful perch]

laughs in ruined PvE balance

[nova sonnet]

right forgot about that

cant just yoink tames in pve like here on pvp

structure and dino limit depending people in tribe

[blissful perch]

It also makes the PvE more like “P” because the E ain’t a contest anymore 😂

[nova sonnet]

so u cant just spam off stuff if you dont need to

but that would be hard to balance

[blissful perch]

Imo the PvE should feel like…not trivial

[nova sonnet]

but i thought pve players put their heart into making builds and whatnot

[blissful perch]

Some do…I like actually surviving in a survival game

[icy kindle]

Me with a cramped 3x3 stone box after 40 hours (after restarting)

I always say I’m gonna build a mega base

Then I never do

[nova sonnet]

me in a crammed rathole in red zone abb watching the alpha tribe phase into the mesh:

also why meshing fix plz

[blissful perch]

ASA is your best shot

[nova sonnet]

also remove gen1 and gen2

then ark will feel like ark again

[blissful perch]

That’ll never happen 😅

[nova sonnet]

hmm

i guess arkpoc exists for that

but then characters get deleted every month and i hate farming for bosses

maybe characters should stay intact while the map gets wiped

[blissful perch]

You play ark…and don’t like farming?

[nova sonnet]

i play pvp

ewww… farming😱

[blissful perch]

PvP is the most farm heavy format ☠️

[nova sonnet]

Not if ur a small trive

i can just run around gen2 and find a drop with a forcefield

then demo

[icy kindle]

From what I can see so many unofficial pvp is super boosted

[nova sonnet]

GEN2 gave everyone brainrot so loot is easy

[blissful perch]

Stryders do be like

[nova sonnet]

still no release date on the ark show?

they say it release early 2023 but its past that 😢

[verbal wind]

last update on it was it was pretty much done they needed a distributor

[split dove]

ARK: The Animated Series has completed the animation and cast recordings of all its 14 initial episodes, which are currently in post-production (VFX, sound mix, etc.). We're delighted with how the show turned out -- it's an epic melodramatic love letter to dinosaurs, fantasy/sci-fi, and of course ARK itself -- though we have not placed it yet with any platform, hence the lack of news in that area. So as soon as there's more to report, we will let you know!

[primal pasture]

A

[split dove]

you're gonna have at least half a year of old Ark until Gen 1 and 2 come out in Q1 and Q2 2024 for ASA. Ark players have always had brainrot, they've just became dumber and more severely idiotic over the years

[blissful perch]

It’s a concentration effect Flobs

Over time, more casual people leave, and what’s left is usually the concentrated try hard base. Not much more to say

[split dove]

and people wonder why i want new players to replace the majority atm

we need to up the average iq statistics here rather quickly

[blissful perch]

I fear for 2030 when we see what grotesque takes ark 2 vets have for ark 3

[split dove]

ASA is to keep them on Ark 1 seeing as they hate Ark 2 already, wich is a win for the Ark 2 community in general

[blissful perch]

I think everyone coming off ark 1 is a win across the board

[south lance]

the largest classic pvp season ever

[nova sonnet]

its a competition of who can stay fixated on the screen the most

XDD

[south lance]

great replacement theory confirmed 😨

the ark2 chatters want to destroy the pvp players

[hexed drift]

I’m just not trying to pay another 50 bucks for the same shit

[south lance]

actually, based tbh

do it

[south lance]

it might be nice a couple years down the line with a decent number of mods

and after it gets cheaper

[hexed drift]

Idk I think it would be fun asf to play like old ark again

But do I really wanna buy it again

Gen 2 killed ark for me tho so it would be nice to not have that for a while

[nova sonnet]

2019 ARK >>

we will in early 2024

but after everything wildcard did can we really see ark the same way we used to before

[blissful perch]

My favorite part of dropping official was choosing how I played

When I wasn’t feeling Gen 2 I just…didn’t use the tames the map or the gear 😅

It would be nice to see a map pass tho

[jovial agate]

double the games double the money. like I would have NOOOOO issues if ASA was going to be free, like they originally said, or at least 20 or 30 dollars, especially for people who have owned the game for years. for many people it IS going to be an interm game, where we'll spend 60$ to play ASA then another 60$ a year later. like are they serious?

even people that haven't owned ark for awhile, they could've got into it a few weeks/months before the announcement, paid 60$ to in a few months pay 60$ for in a few months to pay 60$. absolute insanity

[hexed drift]

I’m sure there doing it for money to finish up ark 2

But I have ark bought with all dlcs and gen dlcs on Xbox and pc

So I’ve spent over 240 dollars on this damn game

And I really gotta buy it again

[jovial agate]

oh my god that as well my friend was talking about that last night

why can't they transfer dlc ownership?? what the absolute hell

[blissful perch]

You DO get all the existing DLC with your ASA purchase (which was initially not the case)

[serene onyx]

You dont have to get it

[blissful perch]

Most people who get ark these days can get everything for $30 or so on the normal sale schedule…and have had a few chances to get the base game entirely free. At 8 years old with known sequels in the works I don’t feel a lot of financial sympathy if you hopped on the bandwagon this late and somehow made the error of paying full price

[south lance]

i hope they replace current tek teles entirely with the new smaller ones instead of just adding them alongside it

i really just want people to quit ruining maps with endless fobs that slow my frames down from 80 to 3

and during that time momentum drives me straight into them

and they are everywhere ☠️

unfortunately thwy didnt mention replacement or reversal of literally any mechanics

so the problems are gonna just compound as new shit is added in which will need to be buffed to relevancy and nothing gets done to revert the games modern mechanics

its purely forwards thinking

progress is adding new shit until the game works well again ;)

cant just look back at something and fuck around with just the numbers

not even mechanic reworks, just raw numbers

they already know how to do them with the inevitable balance changes, they just take 400 years to do it

i hope they at least get around to fucking with them more since offi isnt as deeply entrenched in years of breeding progress as it used to be

beyond which i can only imagine some issues with getting code changes to work preventing more reactive balancing and updates

maybe thats why balance passes have sucked so bad historically, shitty code preventing seemingly simple fixes

maybe asa just not being shitty code will allow better balance considerations

maybe im overoptimistic

[hexed drift]

There taking away the official servers tho?

And all the good unofficialls will move to Asa

[serene onyx]

Unofficial still a thing tho

[south lance]

i imagine unofficials will willingly die out as better mods get added over time to asa

new players, better mods, cleaner performance, crossplay

[serene onyx]

Depends if asa is good or not

[south lance]

its probably going to be the same mechanically

[hexed drift]

Crossplay?

Like how crossplay

[south lance]

sorry, cross compatible mods

[hexed drift]

Ohh

[south lance]

xbox will be allowed to have mods

[south lance]

i posted this textwall from the cc

apparently theres also normal crossplay

..

[blissful perch]

It’s also strongly to do with people having entrenched progress they refuse to accept being reset. WC is shackled to changes that don’t result in wiped possessions/progress or really anything that’s persistent in the world

If the entire game worked like arkpoc, they could take official down for 24hrs and throw in a whole bunch of balance passes, item changes, etc etc and nobody loses any progress

[hexed drift]

I love that there would be a fresh start to official servers

But I just don’t wanna pay again haha

Maybe I’m just cheap

[south lance]

i hope they actually did care about said entrenched progress given offi is evidently a minority of the playerbase

[blissful perch]

You hope they did care? Not sure if that’s what you meant to say, but yes they did care

After a final change to the island map to add new caves (and the tek cave) no more progress was ever straight up wiped on official

[south lance]

yeah

but is that because reverting progress would be technically difficult or because reverting progress would make offi players angry

[blissful perch]

I feel that changing the structure of officials for ark 2 is way easier and lends itself to being far superior a format for what ark does best at

[south lance]

like adding a whole new sectuon to a map doesnt seem like a small feat after all

plus it added a lot more content no?

[blissful perch]

The latter. It’s really easy to remove stuff. It’s much harder to nerf buff or radically change something without wiping everyone’s stuff

[south lance]

ig

they do fullwipe tribes occasionally

[astral token]

[blissful perch]

As admin punitive action yes. That’s not quite the same as a full blown progress wipe for officials

[south lance]

tho they usually have a really good reason to do so

[south lance]

its conceptually possible at least

tho more significantly im wondering about whether theyd be willing to straight up remove mechanics from the game

[blissful perch]

This is the time to do it imo

[south lance]

lile you can wipe all of official, people will be back in about the same place in like a year

[blissful perch]

That’s fine, and kinda why I support wipes so much

[south lance]

id prefer it to be impossible to reach that end state

[blissful perch]

Ark imo shines brightest when it’s about surviving and progressing…it’s not really built like an infinite progress MMO

[south lance]

cause its so cancerous

[south lance]

ya i agree

i dont think anyone even hated arkpoc outside exploits

[blissful perch]

Idk if one month is the correct duration, I’m thinking 2-3 at the most often, but a lot of folks said arkpoc has a strong first 2 weeks and is empty for the second

[south lance]

tho people seem to quit like a week in

i think increasing wipe rate to like 2 weeks might actually work out if the current game progression curve is kept

[blissful perch]

I’d like it more if WC actually went and promoted big “season” style gameplay with each wipe (however often they are). I think it would be a nice touch

[blissful perch]

I disagree with biweekly wipes lol. Not enough time to DO anything

People I believe leave because they feel the last week or two of the arkpoc season is worthless because they’re gonna get wiped

[south lance]

for the current playerbase its enough to get them into the meat of the game

honestly the end game stuff seems like its way less valuable playtime wise than mid

by the time people have 300 teleporters the population mostly quit and nobody wants to play what amounts to offi without lvl 450 tames

[blissful perch]

You’d just be shrinking the casual playerbase to one weekend play session per wipe. It’s not reasonable

The format should be appealing to sweats, but functional and entertaining to casuals

[south lance]

the casual playerbase does not interact with arkpoc beyond the first qeek

[blissful perch]

I’m not confident that’s true, but I also have no data 🤷‍♂️. Seems to me they’d play for 1-3 weekends. There’s obviously a big drop of everyone after weekend 1, but that might not be a casual specific drop off

[south lance]

arkpoc starts off sweatier than normal gamemodes since you have to invest enormous amounts of time beating everyone else

like people will spend 40 hours the first 2 days

20 hours gaming, sleep, 20 hours gaming

that sorta level

plus its rarely solo too, most people are in a group

which makes it even harder for casuals

its probably why i hear more about cheating from arkpoc than other gamemodes

[blissful perch]

Perhaps the reality I need to accept is that no official format will work for casuals

[south lance]

more or less

1x is probably the most casual friendly despite its rates just because people care less and if you get into a tribe the commitment can be spread out more

[blissful perch]

1x has stupidly long timers though. Seems like a lose-lose if you have at most a couple hours to spend on ark in a day and only 5-6 a week

[grand lynx]

1x is a big time sink yeah

also check out gp's latest video, some potential juicy ark 2 news

[nova sonnet]

we are getting a canon DLC for ASA right?

but the story of ark 1 is finished, no?

maybe they're using this dlc to fill in lore gap?

im guessings its arat prime

[fallow niche]

They didn't specify if it was canon or not, just that it's a new map for ASA.

Ark 2 is arat prime.

[split dove]

[nova sonnet]

nah arat prime is on Earth

[split dove]

Ark 2 is on Arat, arat prime was the launch station for the genesis ship Bee

We plan to release a new canonical-story expansion pack for ARK: Survival Ascended that will be available in Q4 2023. This DLC will feature four new creatures, which we’ll share more details about later this year!
it's a canon story dlc

[nova sonnet]

and they specified its canon

[fallow niche]

Oh I missed that part ty

[fallow niche]

Arat is still Ark 2. Not ASA.

[nova sonnet]

in what way

Arat prime is the location on Earth opposite of sanctuary

arat is the planet that ark 2 is set on

[fallow niche]

Yes. Not ASA.

[nova sonnet]

i never said anything about arat being on asa

[split dove]

we were talking about Arat prime, where the launchstation of the genesis ship was on earth

[nova sonnet]

would be interesting to play on a map that's constantly dark

[split dove]

depends on if it's the next map and wether or not it's before or after the events of extinctions ending

[nova sonnet]

good point

it would be nice anyway to have a dlc similar to extinction

[split dove]

if it's after it could be in daylight bc the tidal lock could be gone after clearing out the element with the Reseed protocol

[fallow niche]

Is arat prime not on arat?

I so don't know enough lore 😂

[split dove]

no Bee

Arat prime is the genesis ship launchstation on Earth, Arat is the planet we're on in Ark 2

[fallow niche]

So many questions and none of which are going to make any sense if I ask 😂 I'm caught up now though

[nova sonnet]

i think the ascension cutscene would be us (the survivor) booting up the teleporter on Arat Prime and getting sent to the genesis spaceship

boss is probably a corrupt creature of some sort

actualyl no

it cant be

[ashen lynx]

Is Ark 2 gonna be on game pass like normal ark?

[split dove]

yes

[ashen lynx]

Pog

[vapid panther]

I can see the new DLC being exploring Arat Prime and finding another genesis ship. That could answer more questions about destinations as well as a hard link between ASA and Ark2.

[vague bolt]

Ehrm... You do know that the Genesis did crash on Arat Prime right ? 🤔

[vapid panther]

No. Genesis crashed on Arat. Arat Prime is a base on earth. And its implied there were multiple genesis ships.

[vague bolt]

Ohright oof I keep mixing A and B with B and A, thanks for correcting me on that 😂

But yeah I do wonder myself too! If the new DLC is going to connect to the dark side of Earth where Arat Prime rests

[astral token]

Humans likely named the planet Arat after Arat Prime

It’s surprising how quick Earth plant life has taken over the planet, we see like palms and stuff in the trailers

Animals I can understand since they were manually ejected “grown”, but how do you eject grown trees

[vapid panther]

Could just be convergent evolution.

[vague bolt]

I am just going to wait for the Vin Diesel forehead UE5 Lumen experience

It's going to be quite the "Family" enhancing moment! 😂 but in all seriousness, it was a real surprise when Vin Diesel was the face for Santiago da Costa

[untold ingot]

Santiago is chileno right?

[grand lynx]

could be a time lapse from the end of gen 2, i reckon so just cause of the age of santiagos daughter

[past wind]

Brazilian, from São Paulo.

[untold ingot]

Ahh

[south mortar]

Santiago sounds more like he’s from any other latino-american country then Brazil.

[past wind]

I’m not guessing. It’s in the ark 2 debut trailer. If it makes sense or not, it’s not up to me. LOL

When he’s in the cave and turns everything off, you can see his info in the screen

[stray elm]

Yoo, Charlie became a mod?
Nice

[untold ingot]

I just noticed that. Congrats

[lilac edge]

😮‍💨 I wonder what the server size will be and if the combat won't be a laggy mess nothing is more frustrating in souls combat than someone lagging behind you suddenly

[modern pine]

I am confused to the difference between ascension and ark 2

Are they two different games?

[stray elm]

Ascension is a remake of ARK-1, while ARK-2 is a different project all together.

[modern pine]

Thank you, although I am confused why they do this while in the development of the new game

[stray elm]

Cause they understand that not everyone will enjoy ARK-2, as it's already promising a lot of changes that the community dislike.
So rather make a remake of the already successful game, 'juuuuust' in case ARK-2 flops.

[modern pine]

Ark 1 just too goated

[south mortar]

I know I know. I’m just saying Santiago is not a very common name in Brazil. Yeah, there are Santiagos in Brazil, so they’re not wrong, but I think they could have chose a name that sounds more brazillian then that, while Santiago is much more common in other latino countries.

A simple Tiago would sound a 100 times more brazillian

And I know people can have any name anywhere in the world, but it would be a bit weird to make a german character named Jean-Pierre instead of Wolfgang just because France and Germany are close together.

[tropic crag]

Never thought we've have a nameist debate in here, but here we are

[tropic forge]

🍿

[vapid panther]

Does cross platform mean i could run a non dedicated server on PS and my friends on Xbox can play with me? And then i can continue to play with them on PC?

[winged dome]

Yep

Though keep in mind Ark2 has no PS release confirmation yet

[vapid panther]

Thks. Im gonna need another gaming chair or two! And maybe a sunlamp!

[past wind]

Fair enough.

[astral token]

Simple Tiago sounds like some rapper’s name

[shy atlas]

Ark 2 should add gummy bears as a consumable

[little coral]

How should they be made?

How do ya craft em

[mint swan]

Any news on what’s actually happening with Ark mobile? Some saying it’s Ark switch revamped on Mobile, then others saying it’s same app jus Revamped?

[errant geyser]

No drops in ark 2

[analog hamlet]

@mint swan

ARK: Survival Evolved Mobile:

The ARK Mobile official Discord can be found here: discord.gg/playARKmobile

ARK Mobile players will always be welcome in this discord too!

[glacial prairie]

When ark 2 coming out

[winged dome]

🍻

[tawdry hound]

Is it true ark two has been delayed to 2025 spring? Instead of end of 2024

[winged dome]

Not officially

[untold ingot]

That is not a wc source. Up to now, all non wildcard sources of the release date have been wrong. I see no reason to believe this one lol

[tropic crag]

Oh boy, who's peddling the "leaks" now? Please don't say Nooblets (again)

[untold ingot]

It's not a leak. It was an outside source. Digital domain I think

[stray elm]

The good old ARK-2 news twitter

Thing is, that post has a too many variables to make it reliable.

The post was a 2022 report, meaning it was either near the end of 2022, or very early 2023.
This is before the 2024 delay, meaning it could easily be outdated, or it was originally going to be delayed to 2025 but Wildcard chose otherwise in the roadmap.
But then it says 'game release,' which is vague for a early-access game.
Does that mean the early-access release, or the full-game release?

[untold ingot]

I mean, it's not even from wc. So I don't trust it. All the non wc sources have been wrong

Even the wc sources have been wrong 😂

[last knot]

PS VI will come out in 2027. So Ark 2 will only have a 2 year shelf life before it's outdated on old console tech? No way. No game dev would waste resources like that.

[untold ingot]

Yes, because games are outdated and can't run on new tech. Also ark2 hasn't even been announced to be on ps yet, so it's a moot point anyway 😂

[neon meteor]

Maybe. Could just be different interpretations. ARK 2 could still be going for a 2024 release as an early access title, with the full release currently expected to be in spring 2025.
Then again, neither of those may ultimately be true as the game gets pushed back another 2 years.

[worldly garden]

I put the Digital Domain report out there when I found it. 🤷🏻 😝

[mint swan]

Is the music from the trailers of ARK 2 the main theme of the game?

[winged dome]

Likely, but dunno for certain

[astral token]

It’s labelled ARK II Main Theme by Gareth Coker

[winged dome]

Might be an early sample, could change over the (long) time before release

Coker's music is great though

[astral token]

[rare heart]

Im hoping carno has its long horns and the saddle concept is just the angle making it look weird

[ripe marsh]

I don't think it's just the angle

however I do hope this could soft confirm sexual dimorphism

[winged dome]

What's wrong with the horns?

[split dove]

people think they shrunk the horns, could be a difference with maybe females having shorter horns or it just being the angle of the carno in the carno saddle concept piece.

[winged dome]

Ah
Looks about the same to me, but I usually don't give second thoughts about Ark1 Carnos

[split dove]

Ark 2 carno supremacy

[blissful perch]

Ark 1 has sexual dimorphism so I don’t see why ark 2 wouldn’t

[ripe marsh]

I meant more obvious sexual dimorphism, not just color patterns. Not including the couple of exceptions

[split dove]

ark 1 has very little obvious physical differences for all creatures between genders, only like moose, shadowmane and a few more for sure

[winged dome]

Flashback to both genders of Sabers having berries 😂

[split dove]

[fervent moon]

wait what?

[harsh spear]

why arent they doing a ARK mmo ?

[stray elm]

ARK is already an MMO in a basic sense

[tropic forge]

i think his trying to ask something else

[nova sonnet]

hot take: allow element transfer on april fools 🤣

what this change does is ruin official servers integrity and makes it more chaotic

[stray elm]

That's gonna be hard to do when they're shutting down official.
Unless you mean for ASA

[solemn cedar]

maybe full release but early access is till 2024 that we know off

[harsh spear]

lets say you tame a raptor, youll always be able to summon him as your mount.

[stray elm]

Cryopods

[harsh spear]

ark is not a mmo dude

its survival

i think the map designs they do are really good. so they have the potential to make a great mmo i think

[faint rock]

the details are amazing

[blissful perch]

I see this as plausible with the tame manager they talked about

[blissful perch]

Ark official is technically an MMO. I once agreed that it wasn’t an MMO, but have since observed that it technically counts. It’s not a very good one tho imo given so much progress is destructible

[hybrid valley]

Its an MO, if you add the first M it crashes. It could be a FPMO Few Player Multiplayer Online...

[winged dome]

The early Saber model had male bits for both genders for a while, but this was wayyyy early access

[split dove]

early access for saber transitioning methods

[stray elm]

Survival can be an MMO.

[winged dome]

MMO by technicality only. While there's individual server limits, there's no limit to the number of servers and transfers between them. Basically making each server a large instanced area

[mint swan]

The good ol’ days

[solemn cedar]

the dev kit has mating animations

the rex one is crazy

[winged dome]

Sometimes I do kinda wish the Island had a legacy option, explore back when the map was simple and didn't change biomes every 20 steps

[solemn cedar]

u can still download old ark versions

even on console

no online obviously

[lunar rover]

I really hope the new Ark is that much better. I will wait and if the reviews are negative probably won’t buy. But I am secretly hoping it’s that good🤞

[dire hatch]

If we're judging based on how Atlas went... I'm not getting my hopes up. In fact, I'll be surprised if it isn't complete garbo

[tropic crag]

Atlas was not primarily made (nor being worked on any longer) by Wildcard, so it shouldn't factor into your perception of Ark whatsoever

[blissful perch]

Ark_ocean hopefully won’t be the backbone of ark 2 either 😅

[rare heart]

I mean tbh nothing in ark one code wise should be in the sequel in my opinion

[tropic crag]

Good thing it's an entirely new game made from the ground up then, eh?

[rare heart]

Yes but, whos to say they wont replicate some of the shit ark 1 has for developments sake

[tropic crag]

I think there's some kind of misunderstanding going on here

[thick moat]

it would be very very stupid of them to use the broken code on a new game

[compact zodiac]

when will it go up ark2

[verbal wind]

no later than 2055

[tropic crag]

When will what go up Ark 2? Very ominous, is someone putting something up Ark 2?

Because I sure hope not

Sounds painful

[split dove]

i think they were referring to the cure for ark chatter brain decay, but i think wildcard doesn't want to cure them and instead wants to get new players to replace them to up our collective iq to a positive number

[tropic crag]

Perhaps, still sounds very painful and rather arduous of a process

[sharp lynx]

hope ark 2 combat isn't just dark souls code and animations slapped on a beach bob, maybe something a tiny bit more advanced compared to right now, like just dodging and parrying

[polar hearth]

Ark 2 beginning to be a myth at this rate lol

[lusty hearth]

Guy's... with the confirmed information's we have from around 10+ official sources, there is a 8% change that it will be released in March.

All official sources i have contacted confirmed, that ||every single year has around 12 different months, the changes to hit one of these months is most of the time at around 8%, but i have to say as well, i didn t find any sources who could estimate in which year it will be.|| Have fun out there, keep surviving and enjoy the game until next release. 😀

[blissful perch]

I…can’t be sure if you want a real answer about the release date or if you want me to provide a 😂 and move on

[tropic forge]

lately some ppl have writing some stuff here just begging to someone tell them to put more tobacco on the stuff they are smoking

[ripe cedar]

How do you even calculate that release date at 8% what math did you use

[nova sonnet]

hot take: if aimbotting cannot be truly contained in the future, disable items on official pvp servers that benefit aimbotters

like fab sniper etc

barely any legit player uses them because by late game its all dino pvp

but dino meta may change with ASA

[untold totem]

That is the only way to mitigate the aim bot is all projectile, no hit scan weapons

But sadly you can't just "remove cheating" outright if your game is dominantly PVP, there are always people who sell cheating softwares and in constant combat with updates

An engine change and a few recodes is not enough

We need active moderation like unofficial servers or else official is no better than what we have back then

And also the "official issue" is not PVP exclusive, PVE as well as people conned new/clueless players to trigger the War function

[lusty hearth]

did you press on the black block and read what it is written there?

[astral token]

In ARK II guns might not be a thing

It’s primitive based

“Official sources” as in?

[split dove]

''game journalists''

[ripe cedar]

not every month has the same chance of release

[lusty hearth]

The whole thing was just a joke, as of know we know that Wildcard tries to release it by the end of 2024, but we know as well that UE5 is a pretty new Engine (released 13 months ago for developers), not a single game except for some demos are released with it yet. So therefor it is kinda obvious that all developers are still in the process of learning how to handle this new engine, even if it makes many things easier, it takes time to learn how to use all its ability's. Then we know that wildcard often overestimates how fast they manage to release something, so prediction when to release it with knowing these two facts are just like, they told use what there goal is, but its just there goal, no doubt they try there best to manage to release it by then but yea.... it will be released when its finished and not before.

Therefor i don t use that information to estimate when it will be released, but i have other official sources, like governments, universitys and things like this, who toled me that a year has exactly 12 months, with most of them having around 30-31 day's. Now we know from these sources as well that a year has around 365.25 day's. Now we know that the release will be at one of all these day's (as mentioned, i don t know which year) when we now take a look at march which has 31 day's, then it will be 31 days / 365.25 days = 0.085 = 8.5% change that the release will be at march.

[tropic forge]

dude just stop smoking that before you forget whats your name

[wintry urchin]

Lil bro is positively FRIED

[sand venture]

Dude what the hell are you saying, you good? Yo brain working?

[untold ingot]

The engine for the most part isn't super different from Ue4.

[astral token]

Today I learned that 1/12x100=8 🤯

[untold ingot]

He was making a joke lol

[winged dome]

Jokes tend to end up as YouTube videos, wouldn't surprise me if Nooblets is already posting one about it

[lusty hearth]

haha... would be nice to see it as a youtube video, i was not expecting that it is to early to make jokes about it in this channel 😅

maybe i shouldn t use the words "official source" in a joke 😛

[astral token]

So was I

[untold ingot]

I would contest this honestly. For pvp a ridiculous amount of legit players use faby snipers, because believe it or not most combat is on foot or shooting at other players

[south lance]

shooting players off tames is easier than killing tames

[untold ingot]

By far

Fabis are also an easy way to kill wyverns for early pvp

Disabling an item just because cheaters use it means you have to disable literally every item in the game

[south lance]

you can handle aimbot largely by just changing guns from hitscan to projectile

imo

getting aimbot to work by including lead is way harder

[untold ingot]

Cod begs to differ on that

[south lance]

cod doesnt have the same speed as ark tho

like player and dino speed is insane

[untold ingot]

Ark shouldn't have the same speed that ark has imo lol

[south lance]

maybe, but it does mean that the change i outlined should be more beneficial to helping with aimbot than in a game where people move more slowly

[nova sonnet]

everyone must suffer for the sins of the cheaters

[south lance]

they do that already

[untold ingot]

Happens anyway. But removing items that legit players need because you don't know the meta is not a good reason

[nova sonnet]

fab sniper isn't meta unless you got aimbot

well it is used but it benefits cheaters more

its even worse in late game where you cant really kill anyone with a fabi consistently

[untold ingot]

Speed hack dinos are at least as common as aimbot, so just ban all dinos

[south lance]

fabby is just cost effective

[untold ingot]

Skill issue. I kill players with a fabi all the time. And online raids without at least one sniper on each side is kind of dumb

[south lance]

its the only reliable long range

[nova sonnet]

they disabled railgun for the same reason

[south lance]

railgun has less counterplay usually

[nova sonnet]

good luck finding a raid like that on official

[untold ingot]

They disabled rail gun because rail gun was a problen

[lusty hearth]

Just make sure that there won t be any moment where the game is for free and you would remove already a lot of potential cheater... they may still be able to cheat, but there pockets get empty pretty fast unless they do RMT of course, which is surprisingly legal in PvP, at least someone told me it is legal.

[untold ingot]

Most of my playtime has been official. And yes I found raids like that all the time

[south lance]

im not totally sure how much the free ark days increased the cheating problems but i think that probably didnt help

[untold ingot]

Rmt is a bannable offense.

[untold ingot]

It didn't. That's a myth lol

[south lance]

do cheaters get cracked ark or do they just buy more copies

cause getting cracked versions of multiplayer games seems really tedious

pirating

[nova sonnet]

me watching in horror as the aimbotter above my ice cave with a hotbar full of railguns obliterates my tribemembers one by one:

[south lance]

its illegal but its almost impossible to moderate

[untold ingot]

On official,? Why didn't you just tek bubble?

[nova sonnet]

wasnt actually there XD

just an example

[south lance]

maybe arkpoc

ik a lot of people complain about cheating on arkpoc

[lusty hearth]

ohh okey, good to know, a friend of mine told be he reported someone and the support told him it was okey since it was PvP, but yea... i hear a lot of rumers in this game which turn out as not true, so i m happy that they take action against it.

[untold ingot]

Arkpoc has always been bad. Recently it is way worse though

[south lance]

idk what happened recently to cause the spike cause yeah i hear a lot more about it now

[untold ingot]

I am pretty sure your friend was lying out his teeth lol

Rmt has never been okay on official

[nova sonnet]

arkpoc would be perfect if we could keep our chars after wipe but that would ruin the point of arkpoc XDDDDDDDDDD

[untold ingot]

The game is dying? Support is ending. They are less focused on combating the prevalent cheating culture in a game being discontinued in 3 month. At least that is my take

[lusty hearth]

I used to be a staff in a 30k+ player sea of thieves community, the cheaters there made them selfs 200+ accounts. We litterly haven t had any changes to take action against them since they came over and over again with new accounts. 😔

Most of the people who don t go by the rules create tons of accounts when it becomes for free, even if it is just for a short time.

[south lance]

ig ya

[south lance]

rip

[untold ingot]

If that were the case free to play games like warzone and pubg would be overrun with cheaters

[south lance]

i never really looked into pirating mp games usually the process looks really suspicious

by sus i just mean virus prone

fewer resources too

oh cool google says computer viruses are mostly gone

[lusty hearth]

what ? 😅

[south lance]

xd

[tight wraith]

When ark ascended?

[untold ingot]

It's virus prone and illegal. But making the game free isn't the issue. Being able to make free accounts (from miscrosoft, epic, steam) is the issue

[lusty hearth]

no one knows

[south lance]

whatever bard does it likes to post the weirdest top 3 results after which the more rational results pop through

[tight wraith]

Ah man

[untold ingot]

It's in August

[tight wraith]

I am about to restat on offi with a big group

With the Chinees

[south lance]

why would that matter tho

like youd still need to pay for the game using that avenue

which should rationally be a hard cap to cheating unless they just dont pay, or as mentioned above they get paid by the game so they can afford a new account

[untold ingot]

Its a good thing to be innocent of how they do it. Like it really is

But a cheater isn't going to only cheat when the game is free

[south lance]

i know

but youre saying it has no affect

[lusty hearth]

true... i mean in the end it is both. Both companys could do something against it. But in the end, to keep the marked value of there companys up, it is usefull to have a few thousands of alt accounts, it looks like your company has a much bigger player base.

[south lance]

the only alternative is that you get steam copies with your apparent location being somewhere cheaper

[untold ingot]

I am saying it doesn't have a major effect. And certainly not to the scale of effect that a decent steam identity verification would

[south lance]

thats how ik some people who got 10s of thousands of dollars of mtx on other games like arkm, they just change region

[lusty hearth]

as mentioned, that is true, but you reduce it a lot, especially the kids who do not have unlimited cash like we adults would be removed from the cheater pool after a while.

[astral token]

Even adults don’t have unlimited cash

[untold ingot]

Cheaters don't use unlimited cash to cheat. They use unlimited account creation.

[lusty hearth]

i disagree... at the moment, even if you detect a cheater, you ban him and he uses his next alt account and is still in the game. If they don t have these alt account for free, then every ban has some effect to reduce the numbers of cheater or to reduce the money in there pockets, they buy the game again and pay for the support team so that they can employ more people or improve there anti cheat 😛

[south lance]

ill just take your word that they can pirate through steam then and look into it later

[untold ingot]

They cheaters who buy the game everytime they get banned are not the problem. Those type die out after one or 2 iterations...

[lusty hearth]

yea.. and that is possible due to make sure that the game is never for free.

[south lance]

raq is saying that you can get ark for free using some method

[untold ingot]

For most games, the cheater count between ftp and ptp is at most like 5%

[south lance]

cheaters are pirating copies somehow

[untold ingot]

I am saying I suspect that.

[south lance]

or yeah mb

[untold ingot]

I don't know of any method, otherwise I would report it lol

[south lance]

but it does make the most sense ig

[untold ingot]

A comparison of a ftp game is fortnite. I have played it a fair amount and never run into a cheater. While I ran into them in ark a lot before the free to play time ever happened.

[blissful perch]

Many games that go F2P have their anti cheats stress tested…as is normal when you get a massive influx of F2P players

[untold ingot]

Free to play doesn't necessarily equate to more cheaters. Lack of authentication definitely does. And that is arks issue

[blissful perch]

Numerically? Absolutely. Can’t say if it alters the proportion tho

[split dove]

Asa is also set to have ''Cross-platform Anti-Cheat'', if it's the same or a new anti-cheat is still uncertain atm

[blissful perch]

A stronger design under the hood already wacks a good chunk of cheating

[untold ingot]

Pretty sure they talked about a new anticheat

[fallow niche]

Only gonna remove that since some of those options may seem too appealing for some users, don't need to go looking for it lol

[untold ingot]

Forcing a dual authentication could work

[blissful perch]

It would help to also not encourage “by any means necessary” gameplay

If people weren’t driven so desperately to protect their progress, they’d resort less to cheating

[untold ingot]

There isn't really an alternative to that lol

[blissful perch]

There really is 🙂

It’s called protecting more elements of progress, especially while offline

[untold ingot]

Having a game without progress or without pvp. But that's not a solution

[blissful perch]

visible confusion beyond twisting my words, protecting more elements of progress, such as some set number of cloud stored tames and gear while offline, is hardly “no PvP and no progress”

[lusty hearth]

thx... you are right 👍🏼

[untold ingot]

I was typing that before you talked about protecting elements of progress...

There was no twisting of words.

[blissful perch]

🤷‍♂️ force of habit

[untold ingot]

But having items stored in the cloud unraidable would not solve a cheating problem

It wouldn't even make an impact

[blissful perch]

Compared to direct fixes like better anti cheat? Ofc not

[untold ingot]

And offline protection is exploited in literally every setting it is used in

[blissful perch]

Offline protection in ark 1 seems fine. I’ve not seen anyone complain about storing tames and gear in transfer

I’ve seen many complaints about cross map transfers…but not about the storage of stuff in the cloud per se

[untold ingot]

That's because it has a 24 hours limit lol

[untold ingot]

I mean, ldl is a good reference for no crossmap transfer pvo

[south lance]

does epic games have authentication stuff

[untold ingot]

Don't know

[blissful perch]

Epic is worse than steam 😅

[south lance]

at least for mods yes

[blissful perch]

My account was sold off and I had no idea

Wasn’t until I saw some 16 year old Vietnamese kid put his info into my profile after being off epic for years that I realized their security is flimsy

[untold ingot]

That's why dual authentication would be big lol

It's a lot harder to hack than just password protection

[blissful perch]

However, I also doubt steam or epic security is the reason ark alone has such a high concentration of cheating compared to other games

[untold ingot]

If you had to click "yes it's me" on your phone to log into ark, it would make account sharing and hacking harder

[south lance]

just like college 🥲

[winged dome]

Ok, genuine question
If cheating on Officials is as bad as it seems (or at least enough for it to come up in most of not all Official discussions) why do people play it? Or even enjoy it?

[blissful perch]

Same reason folks play PvE through crashing and transfer bugs that wipe everything I’d assume

[winged dome]

The only reason I can fathom is 'the accomplishment of playing the game as intended', but even then most players will jump at any exploit or advantage until it gets patched

Or employ cheese strats

[blissful perch]

There is a sect of folks who strongly value the sense of superiority they get from doing it “as intended” or despite the difficulty

PvP is always gonna be an arms race though, if you discover a nutty exploit that puts you ahead, people will figure it out and follow your lead…or at minimum try to adapt

[winged dome]

Aside from a few instances, there is very little difficulty in Ark

[blissful perch]

In PvP it’s the players

And even in PvE it’s difficult to construct a large build. Difficult in terms of time ofc, not mechanical inputs or strategic thinking

[winged dome]

Imo, time consuming is not the same as difficult

[blissful perch]

Idk, if someone tells me it’ll take 10 hours to clean a mansion…I’d say that’s a difficult task even if it’s just because it takes ages

[untold ingot]

Recently yes. And it has been a significant plague throughout arks history

[tropic crag]

Time/grinding are closely related, and are both artificial difficulty imo (in most cases.) Grounded's latest update has the issue of the new optional boss taking literally forever and a day to kill, not to mention grind out the mats to even begin to challenge it in the first place, and players are rightly miffed (especially because the rewards are next to useless, at any stage of the game, even)

[nova sonnet]

me watching in amusement as my raiders begin to show acute radiation symptoms and fall to the ground in agony (they tried raiding my radiation rathole and i popped their tek suit with my railgun):

[blissful perch]

The players aren’t ALWAYS difficult

Some folks are the dodos upon which a rex must feed

[blissful perch]

Delays and timing can be critical to good pacing…but it’s very easy to slip into a “slog” scenario

[nova sonnet]

should tek tier items receive any major changes

[tropic crag]

I wholeheartedly agree

[tropic crag]

Yes; removal! /hj

[blissful perch]

^from ark 1 to ark 2 they’re getting the best chance of all (removal)

[nova sonnet]

hope ark 2 has no tek

what about ASA

[tropic crag]

You are in luck, lol

[blissful perch]

Ark 2 confirmed no tek tier

For ASA I’m also curious if they do a tek balance pass

[nova sonnet]

I think the first step is to obliterate suit pvp meta

[winged dome]

Asc will have Tek similar to Ark1, but there might be some changes

[blissful perch]

Do you prefer flak to suits?

[nova sonnet]

yeah flak is more fun

[tropic crag]

I hope the railgun gets a good lookyloo, maybe make it so it can shoot through multiple creatures and has the heat vision but that's it

[nova sonnet]

tek suits can stay, they just need to reduce armor and dura scaling

[blissful perch]

I’m curious if riot meta would be interesting. Flak would be the cheap, tek the very expensive, riot the middling expense

[nova sonnet]

suit pvp is boring asf

[blissful perch]

Ah, that could work too. Make tek more specialized than the higher base stats of say riot

[nova sonnet]

i barely use actual tek suits anyway, only fed suit

[wispy sierra]

tek gear being more bushcraft and ramshackle could be a really cool aesthetic if they choose to implement it

[split dove]

or being tek scrap like we already saw confirmed with the sword and shield

[blissful perch]

I intentionally avoid tek because I find it so soul suckingly boring to use lol

[nova sonnet]

thats what gen2 does to you

desensitized to tek

[split dove]

''tek ain't special if everything around you is tek''

[blissful perch]

Tbh if the tek chest was removed I’d have 70% less complaints

[nova sonnet]

same, but keep fed chest for convenience

[blissful perch]

I suspect both will exist lol

[nova sonnet]

what you shrugging for bro

[wispy sierra]

when everything is tek, nothing will be

[nova sonnet]

it has 20 armor

[blissful perch]

I’m indifferent to the fed suit

[nova sonnet]

im an abb rat so you know where i stand

[split dove]

same crap, weaker form

[tropic crag]

I've always thought that the later armors should go as follows;
flak should be high defense/middling dura + it's temp vulnerability cranked up a bit or just simply unchangeable via crafting skill
riot should be middling defense/high dura + it's torpor resist upped a lil bit
and tek being middling both but having it's abilities, kinda like the fed suit already visibly inched towards with it's lower armor

[blissful perch]

Ab should have no gliders or fliers sans drake and stalkers…and no tek flight imo

[wispy sierra]

that's definetly more interesting than what we have right now

[wispy sierra]

i think having a no flier map was a great move by WC in terms of changing up the gameplay ngl

[tropic crag]

I really hope they make Ab great again 🥹

[winged dome]

Imo, all armors should get the Atlas pass. Less overall damage resistance, but durability significantly increased. A metal suit of armor shouldn't break in like 3 hits

[tropic crag]

#MakeAberrationGreatAgain

[split dove]

i dunno man, that raptors teeth are like a mining laser 🤔

[tropic crag]

That's good too, honestly

[winged dome]

Shields should be similarly adjusted. More dura, but they shouldn't give 100% damage reduction

Or go the Monster Hunter route and make them drain stamina to block

Or hell just make Ark: Monster Hunter with taming and base building 🙏

[blissful perch]

Most based imaginable take

[winged dome]

I need it

[nova sonnet]

all of the above and remove shadowmane xoxo

[winged dome]

I don't PvP and I never really interacted with Shadowmanes at all around release but started playing a modded map that has them

Holy shit they are annoying

[harsh spear]

how to fix ark pvp

• no tek skiff & tek armor
• disable movement-speed as a increasable stat for everything ( player & tames )
• remove cryopods ( they make teaming possible + its no danger to raid someone as you dont have to carry tames through the world )

[south lance]

just revert the game to abberation and redesign ext and the gens

i wonder what the pve improvements will look like

[nova sonnet]

rathole go brrrr

cryopod is fine

[harsh spear]

and also make every cave unbuildable

[winged dome]

Cryo is alright, but should only be able to deploy in range of friendly structures. No more pocket Giga bs

[nova sonnet]

there's classic pvp

[harsh spear]

cryopods are lame. you just slowly pop out all your soakers at the fob and there is no good counterplay for the defender

[winged dome]

Attack the fob while popping out?

Cryos can also be limited to a number of tribe structures in the area to prevent tiny fobs acting as cryopop stations

[harsh spear]

imo cryopods take all the fun moments out of the game. you rarely see anyone traversing through the map with creatures

[winged dome]

I agree, hence suggesting a tribe structure requirement

But the utility of cryos as a way to mass store tames and pause breeding is too invaluable to completely throw away

[harsh spear]

transmitter to mass store ?

[winged dome]

Those have 24hr decay timers and a small inventory limit, right?

Plus require a Tekgram or Obelisk to use. Cryos just need levels

[harsh spear]

the decay timer should be increased

[modern nebula]

2024 is crazy

[winged dome]

I can see a longer decay timers being good, but also bad. It makes safe storage of items/tames more reliable and thus raiding potentially less profitable

[nova sonnet]

just leave cryos as it is but adjust tribe structure limit based on amount of tribe members

that would prevent smaller tribes from claiming so much land but impacts solo players alot

would also be a good change for pve player crying over pillar spam 🤣

[harsh spear]

i agree there should be a structure limit, but not based on tribe members. and you should ALWAYS see the structure limit. This has been a problem with platform saddles or rafts, you never knew how much more you can build until the limit has been reached

and for cryopods they could add a new item where you have to put in the cryopods first in order to unfreeze it

so this way you have to build first

also they should have longer decay times on certain popcorned-items , like cryopods. its annoying to not get anything from online-raids nowadays

[split dove]

cryopods have a 30 min despawn timer if tossed out one at a time, if you drop all together they're there for 5 min. kinda makes no sense if you really think about it

[harsh spear]

isnt the bag 30min timer ?

[split dove]

bag is 5, tossed onto the ground alone is 30

[harsh spear]

na its the opposite

[terse tree]

when dose ark 2 come out ?

[harsh spear]

unless they changed it at some point. i remember bag was longer than popcorned

[winged dome]

Latest date end of 2024

[nova sonnet]

me watching in excitement as my tribemate successfully divebombs at supersonic speeds with his capped owl right into a mega base's blind spot

my heart dropping when [][][][][][][][] logs on and said tribemate gets his brain matter splattered on the ground within seconds

the beach bob watching all of this, petrified at the gruesome sight for he has seen the true horrors of ark (he will never play the game again)

snail games ceo watching all dis from da hidden camera

[mint swan]

Anyone know if ASA is going to be on game pass?

ASE is and Ark 2 is supposed to be soo?

And all of ASE dlcs

[stray elm]

While not confirmed, I'm personally betting that it may be.
But don't take that of course as official information

[mint swan]

Ok thanks i hope it will be

[tropic crag]

It isn't anymore afaik

[harsh spear]

why? o.o

[tropic crag]

No idea, not a developer lol

[harsh spear]

weird decision making by them

[tropic crag]

I guess, I mean the cryopods with potentially capped lines in them are more important than some hide lmao

Seems like common sense to me

[errant geyser]

Hopefully the carnivores don’t get favored over the herbivores again like they did in ark 1

[blissful perch]

Expanding the “domestic” tames that produce resources in your base might help improve a wide variety of creatures. If everything is competing to be your main mount or combat tame…there are only so many niches

[nova sonnet]

gimme a dino that passively produced tek dino gates

[blissful perch]

No tek tier in ark 2 will make this a non issue I promise

[errant geyser]

No tek

[mint swan]

If they did make all these changes a lot of non pvp players like myself would miss them

[blissful perch]

Movement speed and skiffs break PvE almost as bad if not worse than PvP 😅

At least in PvP someone can shoot your gremlin butt or spec into speed to catch you. In PvE the wildlife is completely incapable of stopping you

[split dove]

theres a lot of things that make the current ark 1 pve threat even more of a joke than it already is

[blissful perch]

PvE can be challenging, but only if you self handicap or run into a bug lol

[split dove]

using a gasbags for transport was fun and also annoying to control

[nova sonnet]

would be interesting and fun to see servers with old snapshots

especially ones with extinction on release

i forgot how broken the OSDs were

the aimbotter getting yelled at by its tribe leader as it barely makes a dent in my 4000 dura heavy miner's helmet

[sinful flicker]

when ark 2

[sturdy warren]

You don't wanna know apparently. Sounds like it's a mess as of right now.

[winged dome]

End of 2024

[worldly lagoon]

@sinful flicker
Probably this year

I hope it comes in iOS and Android

[past wind]

No, release is scheduled to 2024

It’s in one of the pins

[worldly garden]

End of 2024 at the earliest, and if it comes to mobile will likely be 2025 at the earliest.

[worldly lagoon]

umm

can anyone help me in a iOS error

[past wind]

Related to Ark mobile?

[worldly lagoon]

Ofc

[nova sonnet]

I LOVE TEK

KEEP EVERYTHING TEK, or buff it actually

the way i see it is that tek items are underwhelming in terms of providing variety of uses, so buff everything

add gen3 too

[harsh spear]

its so weird that nowadays people dont sell games anymore, they sell ideas

plenty of unreleased MMOs and Ark 2 as well.

[nova sonnet]

no way people think im serious ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

gen4 release date?

[blissful perch]

You mean the trend of most games being in some form of early access?

[soft inlet]

just wanna say rn, they better improve the building in ARK 2, or I'mma be mildly upset, like, all of my builds have sections clipping through roofs, it's a minor thing but is annoying when you forget it exists

[nova sonnet]

actual hot take: if you delinquents want prim pvp so bad, more variety of weapons should be added

wanna squish enemy dino with a warhammer

or set up a landmine (automated c4 trap)

[hexed drift]

I just wanna rewind 5 or 6 years

Play the old ark again

Land bases

[nova sonnet]

but then there'd be nothing to progress to

[blissful perch]

Your terms are acceptable

I’m only interested in plant Z landmines 🧠

[nova sonnet]

GAS GRENADES

[blissful perch]

Actually viable narc traps 🧠🧠

[nova sonnet]

poison tipped spear

that deals %max hp damage

but not as strong as the bleed effect

[blissful perch]

%max hp effects only really make sense when hp values are way too high. Keep hp values reasonable and it’s way less of a need

[nova sonnet]

%health dmg good for obliterating stego abusers early game

On fresh wipes like what ASA will have it wont be as useful cuz no one has breedline

[tropic forge]

🍿

[blissful perch]

Ah, I see you haven’t heard my anti breed line rant 😅. My hope is ark 2 does away with lines that allow for for 200k stegos

[nova sonnet]

where can i find it

[winged dome]

My hope is Ark Asc does away with it too 😂

[primal sedge]

Is asa going to be available for ps4 players

[serene onyx]

Not for a long time

Oh asa

I have no clue

[mint swan]

Asa is only coming to PC and next gen consoles like the xbox series S-X and ps5

[worldly garden]

No afraid not.

[silk linden]

обие

[thick tulip]

wonder if the free DLC maps will be re-released in their intended state (Valguero, Crystal Isles, Lost Island), esp after Fjordur featured rock drakes when the others were removed

[winged dome]

Probably won't be changed from current released features

WC is strangely protective of Rock Drakes

[quasi pawn]

am i the only one that is kinda pissed that ark 2 has been delayed to next yr😭

[winged dome]

I was a bit upset, but I think they revealed and teased Ark2 wayyyyyy too early

But overall, I'd rather wait the time for a more polished experience than a buggy(ier) mess

[blissful perch]

It implies one. @winged dome knows I hardly ranted a single time

You can search my name and “mutations” or “breeding” and you’ll likely hit one pretty quickly

[untold ingot]

Breeding needs to be a thing, but it can't be the same thing imo

Asa has to be sufficiently removed from ase to make it a fresh experience, and changing the way breeding ( and maybe dinos) work is the best way to do that

Changing the visuals is like a novelty thing imo. It's like playing the island and then fjordur. It's fun, but overall still the same. Changing how breeding progression works ( and nerfing player added levels) is probably the best way to make it feel newer

[blissful perch]

Agree. Salvaging PvE balance imo is a good step for everyone

[patent inlet]

[tropic forge]

🍿

[south lance]

waiting on the breeding changes crunch

🙏 🙏 🙏

[low ravine]

I wonder if they will make me grow wyvrens for 2 days still.

[mint swan]

When’s ark 2

[grand lynx]

The real question is how's ark 2

[low ravine]

What is Ark 2?

[winged dome]

Who is Ark2?

[misty lichen]

Why is ARK 2?

[umbral quiver]

Where is Ark 2?

[south mortar]

Wool is ark 2?

[desert swallow]

How is Ark 2?

[south lance]

Is Ark 2?

[urban light]

yes ark 2

[frigid stratus]

maybe ark 2

[desert swallow]

MODS!

[mint swan]

Not even close to the right server

[desert swallow]

I'm 100 years old. Me and my 18 year old great great great grandson would like to join your tribe.

[untold ingot]

A professional tribe, in a game that doesn't have professionals other than youtubers lol

[tropic crag]

• insert Scott Lang/Ant Man saying "what happened here" gif here *

[near urchin]

Weirdos be out here thinking they own the channel

[blissful perch]

@worldly garden sorry to ping ya, but I saw your video and wanted to know if it went up before all the news about the ark 2 digital domain typo came out. I want to make sure my ordering of events is right 😅

[worldly garden]

It was before, I started it all off. 🤣 Basically I saw the report, did the video, told ARK2News about it, they tweeted it, then everyone else started talking about it.

[blissful perch]

I had a feeling lol, but much like your content I prefer to hear it as close to the source as possible

[worldly garden]

Gamesradar would never credit someone small and insignificant as me!

[blissful perch]

It’s the little people who run the world at the end of the day 🙂. The video was a fun watch!

[swift kraken]

Will ark 2 be free?

[worldly garden]

Of course not, why would an entirely new game be free?

[south lance]

dawg

💀

[mint swan]

is ark 2 worth buying i want it for my birthday in a week

[fallow niche]

We don't know yet

[worldly garden]

You want it for your birthday in a week? Like next week? 🤨

[mint swan]

ye

[worldly garden]

lol well good luck with that considering it's not released before the end of next year.

[blissful perch]

Let him cook 😂, next week is super far away

[ripe marsh]

You're in luck, my authentic sources tell me wildcard is preparing for a next week release