ark-2

[split dove]

we could get one this month, or they possibly give dates for reveals with the roadmap next month

[ionic meteor]

If they're planning on stacking the roadmap then this would be a good move

This month's concept art will be : troodons & microraptors

I would consider WC to be the biggest trolls of 2023 if they did that 😂

[split dove]

troodon with spikes and sharper feathers

[astral token]

Hopefully some mammals for a change

I'm not expecting Arat creatures

But a chad Saber wouldn't be a amiss

[ionic meteor]

I'm thinking they'll play it safe give us two more mid-game, herbivores ig

I wouldn't expect a spino or a well known carnivore

[ionic meteor]

Yeah maybe paracertheriums or procoptodons

my favourites

[astral token]

Paraceratherium or some form of that large land mammal will def make it in

Hopefully it doesn't look like a pp this time around

[astral token]

That will be in April ☠️

[grave onyx]

is ark 2 expected this year or the next?

[chilly osprey]

They haven't officially delayed it, but I'm not optimistic for this year.

[grave onyx]

i dont care how long it takes anymore i just hope it doesn't take 400gb

[worldly garden]

Hopefully find out next month in the roadmap.

[toxic sparrow]

Ark 2 will have creative and forcetame and cheat that summons any Dino you want tamed? Like will we still have those cheats I only use them to experiment

[split dove]

we do not know, all we know is in the pinned messages and steam page

[toxic sparrow]

Ohhhh ok thanks

What about like specs requirements any graphics card recommendations I already have a good pc for 1200$ but I’m not sure if I should get anything else to prepare for ark 2?

[grave onyx]

4 days left for the new ark 2 creature reveal

[split dove]

i'd say look at recent releases to get an estimate of what's kinda minimum for new games spec wise
Specs for Ark 2 aren't announced yet

[toxic sparrow]

We’re is that

[split dove]

Steam page has minimum and recommended specs on all games

[toxic sparrow]

Oh oh ok i see

[astral token]

Probably

Get a 5090ti Super XTXTX just in case

And the core i11-141000KSF+

[desert swallow]

You'll need at least a 3000W PSU

[astral token]

And liquid + air combo cooling

[pearl perch]

Gta 6 will be released before ark2

[desert swallow]

How do you know this? You must be psychotic!

[pearl perch]

Omg

You such a bully ughh

[desert swallow]

Just because I accused you of being able to predict the future does not make me a bully

[pearl perch]

Idk what it means lol

Me noo english very good

[lavish rain]

He was being sarcastic

[potent hull]

hi all player of ark 2

[ripe cedar]

Why would you say that her

None of us play ark 2

[lavish rain]

Nobody plays ark 2

It's a broken game

[potent hull]

i was joking

[mint swan]

So Ark 2 will have aliens right?

[ripe marsh]

perchance

[split dove]

the chance of there being more aliens besides the Aratai (Orks) are high, would be weird if all other native wildlife is dead already

[mint swan]

good good

i only play this aliens are there, othewise game likely fail

[tropic forge]

wait, aratai are aliens? thought humans were the aliens on that planet

[split dove]

both are aliens from certain points of view

[winged dome]

Aratai are more Natives than Aliens. Aliens assumes they travelled

[tropic forge]

here i thought the term "alien" is designate to a lifeform that's not original to that planet

[covert tapir]

this guy makes my blood boil every time he writes something 😅

[tropic crag]

And here we have the native Ark 2 chatters, debating the definition of the word "alien", as they have for millennia, and will continue to do so

[lavish rain]

We are higher lifeforms

[untold ingot]

Higher more advanced, or just normal?

[coral walrus]

How is ark 2 supposed to come out before June if they have a tv show, new creature and events coming

[fallow niche]

June is a Microsoft placeholder date, not an official source from Wildcard.

[worldly garden]

What events? You mean the EVO and colours?

[stone vapor]

will ark 2 be on ps5

[fallow niche]

Probably, but not at launch.

[thick moat]

Vic is teasing something this Community Crunch

HYPE

[stray elm]

Yeeep

[thick moat]

CaRnOO

[stray elm]

Guessing new concept art

[split dove]

so far i'm guessing it's only gonna be the carno, might be a double reveal again, but unlikely gonna be 2 again before the roadmap imo

[fallow niche]

Here, since I know someone's gonna want them lol
https://twitter.com/vicdeleon/status/1626731248717799424?t=82Kxcmu_XoJ7UgtTGhpe0g&s=19

Vic DeLeon (@vicdeleon)

Ok that’s it for your fish content. Who’s ready for some dinosaurs? #Ark2 #ArkII #ARKSurvivalEvolved

Twitter · Feb 17, 2023, 11:52 PM

https://twitter.com/vicdeleon/status/1626746788542828544?t=82Kxcmu_XoJ7UgtTGhpe0g&s=19

Vic DeLeon (@vicdeleon)

Sooo I carnot tell you any more, but keep a sharp eye out
…for something meaty.
#ARK2 #playARK

Twitter · Feb 18, 2023, 12:53 AM

[ripe cedar]

the meatasaurus

[fallow niche]

It's the carnoooo

[stray elm]

E

[ripe cedar]

is it a double quarter pounder with cheese?

[fallow niche]

Yes

Absolutely

[stray elm]

Technically two

[minor frigate]

Carno is so cool omg

[languid kayak]

cant wait to see the mosasaur and dunkleosteus in ark 2

[stray elm]

If they do.

[languid kayak]

:(

[thick moat]

the ambience of the concept

[stray elm]

Motherfucker grew some eyebrows

[thick moat]

makes me kinda go bonkers, it looks good

[stray elm]

I think also their horn-eyebrows turning into actual full on spikes supports the 'rapid evolution' theory

[vital mica]

I hate it

[split dove]

the setting/biome of the concept also looks interesting

[thick moat]

indeed

[split dove]

i thought it was a corn field at first 😂

[stray elm]

It's like a plains biome, which we don't have much of

Nah, that's wheat

Which means I can canonically make bread. 😎

[split dove]

it's almost 3 am, let me have my brain fart moment

[stray elm]

Well, see you guys in another 4 weeks when we get the concept art of a dodo

[iron sequoia]

[split dove]

or the roadmap

[iron sequoia]

Or both

[split dove]

we shall see next month

[thick moat]

pog

[astral token]

Cool carno

Except it's kinda like a bull

Bro will have neck pain for all his life

Imagine carnos get a permanent debuff, "neck pain"

Oh also new Raptor skin?

[tropic forge]

y'all should feel lucky to have 1 concept art (dosent look like concept) but nice looking carno i always like them

[blissful perch]

It doesn’t look like a concept? visible confusion

[stray elm]

Why's that?

Oh wait, that's you responding to Fox

[blissful perch]

Fox has to tell me. I think it looks like concept art

[stray elm]

Yeah, it does look like art.

(in the sense of it being painted. Their models are also art in their own form)

Cause fuck man, if they keep true to the concept art (or in this case, apparently the in-game carno looks better) then I'm happy.
I hate it when games change so much from the concept-art pieces.
I know they're the 'concept' of stuff. But sometimes the concepts do look worse or better then the in-game stuff.

[fallow niche]

I want allllll the spiky stuff

These look amazing so far

https://twitter.com/ComplexMinded/status/1626759436097265670

Cedric (@ComplexMinded)

Catch you on the flip side! 🤙🏿

Twitter · Feb 18, 2023, 1:44 AM

[stray elm]

I wanna eat it

[untold totem]

gundam carno

[tropic crag]

Same here, I'm 1000% here for the whole hastily evolved spikes and shiz, makes me that much more excited for whatever they evolved the spikes for defense from be seen 👀

[fallow niche]

They look cute!

[tropic forge]

its more of a picture than concept art, its nothing like the previous 2 before that look more drawing

[fallow niche]

That's all concept art

Even if it's a different style/medium, it's all concept art

[tropic forge]

that looks more like a pic from a trailer that hasn't being reveal yet than a "concept art"

[blissful perch]

the real reveal tbh is that it looks like we might see a really nice savannah biome

[tropic forge]

which is wear i was expecting more "alien" environment not trees that look like those in africa (thats what pop in my mind)

[astral token]

Carno Spike Walls confirmed in ARK II

[blissful perch]

It’s a combination of earth and alien flora and fauna…not shocking to see some earth environments

[fallow niche]

It looks the same as the other 3 concept arts, just different scenery

[blissful perch]

Well that’s what I’m interested in

[fallow niche]

I meant to reply to fox, I am sorry

[blissful perch]

The others showed a jungle or forest, which we’ve seen before. But this is the first one with a new biome type

[fallow niche]

It looks the same as the other 3 concept arts, just different scenery

It's still concept art, though if you believe differently than others, there is nothing to be said.

[blissful perch]

I’m not sure what else it could be tbh

[fallow niche]

I mean, it looks exactly like every other concept art they've ever made (different style and artists, obviously)

[fallow niche]

Hopefully! Just doing a left click spam does get old, but I also don't want it to get too complicated because I have tiny hands and I am terrible at figuring out all the different keys. Have to take my time and play slow 😂

[prisma pike]

The carno picture looks very much like a 3d model and even has another dino in the pic, concept doesn't really usually include other creatures

[fallow niche]

I'm sure it has before

[prisma pike]

And I'm sure this is a render and not concept

[fallow niche]

It's still a concept art....?

It even says...concept?

[prisma pike]

Concept art comes before making the actual model, this looks like an actual model in a 3d render.

[fallow niche]

It can still be a concept? I don't know what else there is to say, it literally says concept, so I mean, you do you. I'm no longer commenting.

[tropic forge]

finally someone as the same definition as i have, concept its a "scratch" design can be even on 3d but that pic is way beyond 3d model only

[prisma pike]

Yeah the only way that pics really a "concept" is maybe a few minor changes in detail later on

[astral token]

It’s likely that this is nearabouts the exact model we’ll see in the game

[prisma pike]

Cause it's very clearly 3d models in the image

[mortal siren]

Il it looks very realistic but it IS a painting, if you zoom in you will see the details of the painting, and the picture is literally called Paintoverv, it’s very possible though to be a painting of the real 3D models

[astral token]

Also I don’t think it’s a 3D model, there are wuite a few bleeding edges if u look bery closely

It’s apparent if you zoom in on the back spikes

Or the wheat stalks or whatevr

[tropic forge]

but yeh, maybe we getting too old and gotta accept thats a concept since everything evolve, guess next time i see a game pic i call it concept art not a in-game pic or whatever

[mortal siren]

Carno’s picture is only called Paintoverv, not Concept like the 2 previous concepts arts so, like I said, the Carno picture is most likely a paint of the real 3D models which explains its realism.

[ripe cedar]

or its a different artist

[opaque current]

Guys

Is ark 2 already Released?

[astral token]

Yea it is my friend told me 🤓

[winged dome]

🍻

[opaque current]

Ok

[drowsy hamlet]

Ark2 better for the love of God not have a dead ring in the co up multipayer

[tropic crag]

You know what I just now realized? The Carno concept looks vaguely like the Carnos from the movie Dinosaur (a childhood favorite of mine, and one of the reasons I am so into dinosaurs in the first place. I didn't watch the movie every night for years, or anything...)

[deft saddle]

Nah thats a drawing

If you zoom in you can see each brush stroke

[worldly garden]

It's a painting, the file name even calls it that. Ark2_Promoimages_CarnoPaintoverv16_1920x1080.jpg

[deft saddle]

Oh

[ionic meteor]

This didn't age well 😂

carno looks 🔥🔥

[ripe marsh]

Might be a stretch but I wonder if the concept means Carnos and Raptors will no longer have unspoken truce to attack everything else.

[untold totem]

they are no longer following the ship's rules

they wild now

[ripe marsh]

No longer part of the crew...

[tropic crag]

Part of the ship, part of the crew, part of the ship, part of the crew

[nocturne raptor]

Hi

What is the approximate date for ark2?

And will they send ark2 trailers after they release it or b4? And will it be more than one video and more than a second or nah?

[astral token]

2023

[astral token]

Before

[violet knot]

any idea what the requirements for ark 2 will be?

[covert tapir]

wonder if the carno will be as much of a useless guy as in ark 1

he was always kind of in the middle

[tropic crag]

Looks a bit bigger, but may just be perspective/artistic representation. I do hope that no one specific dino is just outright a replacement for another (like most carnivores were once you got the bigger ones), even if it is kinda inevitable 😅

[covert tapir]

well once again there are big spikes on the creature xd

maybe everyone deals bleed or smth

so everyone is useful lmao

it also says "speedy sausage" so charge attack incoming

[tropic crag]

Hope bleed exists, but is not percentage

Also, those feet probably have something to do with the speed, have you seen them thangs? Heckin beeg

He boot too big for he gotdamn feet

[covert tapir]

truee

also is that micoraptor?

or archeopteryx

[tropic crag]

🤷‍♂️

[covert tapir]

as long as it isnt a troodon im fine with it

[tropic crag]

Looks to be the raptor that we saw in the trailer, tbh

[covert tapir]

😮

that means this carno is hugee no?

[tropic crag]

Yeaaaaaaaah, lol

[covert tapir]

has same size feet as the rex

[tropic crag]

Which I hope is the case

INB4 carno is just a rex that's new boot goofin

[covert tapir]

tbh i was hoping for carno not to be in this game xd

give me a new creature thats cool

instead of this meme of a dinosaur

[tropic crag]

Oh there'll be plenty of new ones, I'm sure

And carnotaurus is extremely popular, one of the essentials by most standards

I just want more invertebrates 😂

[marble thunder]

Can we assume that they first do a concept art of the dinosaur before implementing it in the game ARK 2?
Which means, they only implemented less than 10 dinos (including ones seen in the trailer)?

We might get a delay again, as it sounds like they're sharing these arts to "calm down" the community, but the reality is that they're late?
Anyway, we will probably find out with the roadmap next month.

[astral token]

There are probably a huge number of concept arts ready to show, they’re just keeping us in suspense to build hype etc.

[marble thunder]

Yeah, true, who knows.
Maybe

[split dove]

they've only shown us a few, doesn't mean that's the only ones done concept and in-game model wise

[tropic crag]

I'm sorry, but yeah that line of thinking makes little sense

[split dove]

Ark chatter thinking go brrrrr

[astral token]

I am speaking from experience when I say that the number of concept arts is generally 20% of the total number done LMAO

[tropic crag]

For the record, I was critiquing Divlo's statement on the matter 😂

[blissful perch]

I actually think the carno size is near the same but the raptor is smaller

The raptor looks to be between ark 1 raptor and troodon sized. I wonder if it’ll even be ridable

[astral token]

No look at the trailer

[tropic crag]

But look at the wheat, it's pretty tall... idk if they're going the super wheat route, but that's some super wheat if I ever seen it

[astral token]

Compare to the Rex it’s normal sized

[ripe cedar]

Rex is definitely smaller i think raptor is similar sized

[blissful perch]

It got stepped on did it not? I’m not so sure it’s the same size

[tropic crag]

Plus yeah we have the raptor size compared to rex already via trailer

[blissful perch]

The rex is 100% certain smaller than ark 1’s from what I was seeing

[astral token]

It’s around the same size

[ripe cedar]

I would say 99% chance raptor is rideable just because of how iconic it is

[astral token]

The carno is larger, rex and raptor are similar

ARK II: Spikes edition

Imagine, Thyla, but with spikes 🤣

[blissful perch]

It really looks smaller

[ripe cedar]

Where?

[blissful perch]

But I guess we’ll see ingame

[ripe cedar]

The trailer?

[blissful perch]

Yea

[ripe cedar]

I comepared the dodo to the raptor and it didnt seem that differently sized

[blissful perch]

The dodo seems smaller too

[tropic crag]

I don't see how either one looks smaller, lol

[blissful perch]

An ark 1 dodo is like a third the size of a character…the trailer one is barely longer than an arm (imo shorter by a margin)

I’m fine with conceding there’s size inconsistencies between trailers, art, and the game but…I dunno stuff just seems to be a bit smaller and more detailed

Pteranodons look smaller too imo

But again part of this maybe because of the first person perspective? Everything seems bigger in ark 1

[winged dome]

Everything

[ionic meteor]

I legit thought it was a troodon at first glance

[unborn galleon]

Very good Job with that Carno Design. Now the predators look like predators. Not like potatoes

Can't wait for this shiet

[blissful perch]

the ark 1 art was pretty awesome for 2015

the potato element was the behavior lol

[limpid hornet]

feel bad for the ark II carno, here I thought trex had small arms. awesome design though

[blissful perch]

The real carno has very strange tiny arms

[limpid hornet]

yeah ik, still funny to actually see though

[winged dome]

They are pretty stubby

[astral token]

Can’t wait for March roadmap

Watch as it comes in last wrrk

[winged dome]

31st is a Friday, when WC usually drops their crunches 😂

[split dove]

Coincidence? I think not

[astral token]

Kekw

It’s gonna be 1st April for me…

[harsh spear]

id like some balancing approaches that dino-games have like the isle. for example raptors can tailbite big dinosaurs and let them bleed out over time.

and pve rexes shouldnt be able to 180 on the spot

[winged dome]

Tamed Rex turning in Ark1 was garbage

[harsh spear]

agreed

[south lance]

its why birthday skin censor is so big

[lavish rain]

Yoo carno concept

[mint swan]

Does anyone get the feeling that ark 2 will be a dumbed down version of ark 1

but if it has aliens it will be fine

[lilac olive]

Ark is so toxic pls fix that in ark2 if someone raids constantly they should gain a raid medal so people know or something of sorts so tribes actually get built swear people need tribe mates nobody trusts anyone

[split dove]

please tell me how you think it's gonna be a dumbed down version, while the new mechanics are more complex compared to ark 1's examples like: More skill based combat and better player movement systems

[mint swan]

Well heres my theory but I spent a lot of time thinking about this

to the point where I think its around 65% likely to be true

but you ever watch a movie sequel that was worst than the first

probably 99% of movie sequels are worse than the initial, this is a real stat

Matrix being one of them

I honestly feel vin diesels involvment in ark 2 will maek it more casual friendly

we wont see indepth breeding or wildlife mechanics, everything will be tailored to ensure his son has the most enjoyable time in the game

and a boy that young cant progress much in a complex game like ark, so likely this will happen i feel

[astral token]

E3 2023 is from June 13th to June 16th and it will feature an Xbox Games Showcase. Coincidence? I think not.

[winged dome]

Clearly 😂

[split dove]

yh, the more complex and skill based mechanics from Ark 2 (Souls like combat and upgraded player traversal) compared to ark 1's basic shit like ''hold w to walk for 2 hours'' and ''cookie clicker combat'' definitely means it's gonna be dumbed down 🤣
I need some of that shit he's smoking

[astral token]

You aren’t already high on ||life||?

[lavish rain]

He took my experimental stash

[mint swan]

Souls like combat is a warning bro

souls like combat is even more dumbed down than clicker combat

[lilac olive]

Is that when you die because you character was stuck in an animation attack

[mint swan]

Yeah man

you know what other game promised souls like combat?

[winged dome]

Skill issue

[mint swan]

2 letters

new world

[covert tapir]

hes a troll ignore him

as always

[mint swan]

? cmon bro

if u want challenge my ideas than do so, but im no troll

[hallow wasp]

Do you live under a bridge?

[mint swan]

no i live in a 1 bedroom apartment

actually it is near a bridge tho

[hallow wasp]

It’s okay guys he’s a person that lives in a 1 bedroom apartment near trolls

But we haven’t confirmed if our suspect has associated with trolls

[mint swan]

not sure why i give this impressoin

[winged dome]

You don't have any ideas to challenge though 🤔

[mint swan]

Which means they are good ideas

[winged dome]

Which means you are wrong and have no idea what you're talking about

[lavish rain]

Explains it, you can barely afford to keep yourself afloat, no wonder you have outrageous takes

[winged dome]

Not even ideas, just bad opinions

[hallow wasp]

Imagination 🌈 🧽

[mint swan]

hey nothing wrong with living in a one bedroom 😦

poor people can be smart to

[split dove]

if Lotus says you've got outrageous takes it's bad, that man is almost always on drugs

[lavish rain]

I have outrageous takes too

But your straight up on somthing strong if you think souls combat is more watered down then cookie clicker

[split dove]

remember when shifter fell asleep while having to fight a skeletal bronto? 🤣

[mint swan]

bro i compelted all souls game on max difficulty, trust me , i used a lot of critical thinking when making that comment

[lavish rain]

Literally 😂 I was there in chat

[south lance]

his boy just needs to avoid pvp lol

[lavish rain]

Oh very critical thinking alright

[south lance]

just play single player, you dont have to deal with 99% of the complexity then

[mint swan]

Yeah but he was born rich

You know he will have an ego

[lavish rain]

Wut

[south lance]

that has literally nothing to do with anything

[mint swan]

now ur going to laugh when i say this

but trust me this is a very real possibility

[south lance]

ok

[mint swan]

I wouldnt be surprised if the lead director of ark 2 is vin diesels son

[south lance]

right

[mint swan]

and if my theory is correct, we should be concerned

[south lance]

mhm

[hallow wasp]

I’m concerned

[south lance]

yeah

[hallow wasp]

The next person to message is a troll

[mint swan]

Yep, and hes only 13

[hallow wasp]

Dang

[mint swan]

im doing a bit of digging on his bio

he used to play fortnite

[south lance]

crazy ik

[covert tapir]

just typing your name in the search bar and reading all of your stuff

and every time i saw you chat here

troll behavior

[mint swan]

in 2019 his father built him his first gaming pc, tbh this is kind of sweet

but also a concern

[south lance]

in 2023 oshi came to ark2 channel

its never been the same

[mint swan]

his father will do anything to make him happy, even if it means ruining the experiences of veteran ark players

No im just saying

we need to keep an open mind

[south lance]

literally

[mint swan]

trust me ive been around the block, youll be surprised

[split dove]

around the drugs block?

[south lance]

ive been around no blocks and i dont want to at this point

[mint swan]

listen being a janitor you easedrop into some of the most important conversations

[covert tapir]

Oshi — Yesterday at 6:49 PM
is that enough to do any bosses in the game? (never done a boss)

i cant send screenshots in this channel

but its just switching between being a pro and sucking hard balls

[mint swan]

bro if you did this much investigatory work on vin diesel's son we would get some answers by now

[south lance]

oshi did you hear about the clogged toilet down the hall

you might have some work to do

[mint swan]

yes im always on top of it

even in ark i never let any dung in the house, have 3 bins

[lavish rain]

High on ketamine

[south lance]

im gonna clog every toilet at wc hq

just warning you oshi

[covert tapir]

maybe carno feet have like a raptor pounce style thingy where they hold down small creatures

[blissful perch]

It is funny that I can play ark 1 while asleep…but I’m certain ark 2’s combat will be even more simple. After all, the logic “dude just trust me” was employed

[split dove]

no wonder his takes are shit, he cleans the toilets every day ☕

[covert tapir]

wdym, ark has very very very hard fight mechanics, especially when it comes to argys

gotta fly right above the alpha for it not to trigger aggro

you guys think alphas will be in ark 2?

[pale gorge]

Bet there’s gonna be a tribe leader for those humanoid enemies that track you down, that would probably be like an alpha right?

[stray elm]

There always are in open-world survival games

[cinder solar]

Hey I was looking at the ark 2 second trailer and I found bones, I thought they were rocks but I'm pretty sure it's vertebra

[covert tapir]

cant imagine bones in a dinosaur game

[stray elm]

At what time?

[blissful perch]

Alphas like alpha tribes or like alpha rex?

[covert tapir]

rex

is there actuall lore regarding alphas?

[stray elm]

Nope

[blissful perch]

My hope is that dens and world event creatures replace alphas

[winged dome]

I don't think Alphas were ever really mentioned officially in lore, but my guess is they were a minor test for the survivors - similar to the bosses

[stray elm]

They could be apex of their species, but they hold no importance in-canon.

Unlike in-game, you don't need to kill the alpha's to get into the tek-cave.
The bosses canonically drop keys, which are used to open up the door.

[winged dome]

True

[blissful perch]

imo alpha rex etc were a holdover from the first iteration of ark...where a "tough pve threat" was needed but the infrastructure to make things like minibosses or missions wasn't there

[winged dome]

Yeah, I was just speaking lore-wise what I thought

[blissful perch]

every subsequent map after the island has some sort of pve threat like deathworms, reapers, corrupted creatures, etc

[stray elm]

Yeah, and they kept that tradition till Genesis 1-2, where they could replace those PvE threats like alphas with missions.

[winged dome]

Didn't Gen1 and 2 have Alphas?

Err, I guess no new Alphas

[blissful perch]

did extinction have alphas? I guess if you count the enraged corrupted creatures

[split dove]

it had the enraged creatures, alpha rex, raptor and maybe carno as well

[stray elm]

They gave alpha drops, and they had their dust effect, so yeah

[stray elm]

I don't remember raptors. But it does have enraged/alpha trikes

[blissful perch]

i don't think extinction had any "standard" alphas

although one could make the valid argument that enraged corrupted rex = regular alpha rex

[stray elm]

I would, since they had the red-mist effect, and dropped alpha rex teeth

[split dove]

spawn maps has them, and i've seen regular alpha raptos, rexes and carnos quite often

[bronze sleet]

Hope they improve building

[split dove]

all we know for building rn is that we're gonna get building templates we can share
''Instanced rendering and network-streaming enable much higher client and server performance for large, player-built structures, and a longer draw distance! Survivors can set up and save their own preferred building templates, share them, and place prospective template layouts in the world to then build them out as a team.''

[flint knot]

I wonder if Ark 2 will have dinosaurs 👀

[winged dome]

Wonky as Ark1 building is, you can pull off some crazy stuff if you know how

[rancid harness]

True, but I think the idea is to make it less of a hassle making those crazy builds 😉

[split dove]

in ark 2 you can just copy the blueprint (might just take resources and fill the build in as it comes closer to being 100% built like The Forest does with it's building system)

[rancid harness]

Then I guess it'll be up to the community to upload their builds! Hopefully blueprint parts will be compatible, so we can add individual room blueprints to our preexisting builds, just needing to fill it out with mats.

I'm so impatient for ark 2 🤣

[blissful perch]

Gonna guess that you just make a building from a blueprint then save it as a new one…simple as that

[rancid harness]

A building editor mode would be cool, like interact with a building table and it zooms you out and lets you lay out your build instead of placing them with and from your character

[untold ingot]

I think that would work in single player. But that would be more op than k mode I think lol, otherwise it would be useless

[spiral kernel]

I don't think ARK 2 is real

[hallow wasp]

It’s just Elon he put brain chips in all of us

[spiral kernel]

Bro, someone can hack ur brain

And put world cup on loop

[mellow wadi]

Damn, the forest’s building system is pretty good

but that restricts players from getting creative with their building and designs

[stray elm]

I don't know what Flobs means

[mellow wadi]

Have u ever played the forest?

[stray elm]

It sounds more akin to saving the buildings preset.
And I have.
The steam storepage says "be able to share the blueprints with your friends" so that sounds more akin to file-sharing, like in Halo's Forgemode

[mellow wadi]

Alr

then flobs was wrong

[stray elm]

Let me recheck, but that may be the case

"Survivors can set up and save their own preferred building templates, share them, and place prospective template layouts in the world to then build them out as a team."

[mellow wadi]

Oh alr

[stray elm]

@split dove U wrong m8

[mellow wadi]

Then that means if I were to create a build, I can save it and also recommend it to friends

[stray elm]

Yep, and then be able to place down (in theory) a blueprint ghost of the exact building for them to build

[mellow wadi]

yeah

[bronze sleet]

i see thats cool, right now ark building is okay its just lacks, 90 degree angles lol, so if you wanted to have rounded edges you have to do a really weird, angle thing

[tropic crag]

Except that's literally what The Forest does, lmao

And you can make completely circular bases in Ark 1, it's just really resource intensive via foundations and ceilings needing to overlap in some spots, my Gen 2 base is a perfect circle but has minor (but noticeable if you stare) clipping on the foundations

As for doing that on a particular edge at a corner or something, I imagine it's possible but again expensive and takes some experimentation to figure out how to do right

[blissful perch]

A circle is impossible to make without…curved pieces

Otherwise you just make a very close approximation with a many sided polygon

[tropic crag]

Nope

Well, yeah, but you get the gist, it's almost a perfect circle

[blissful perch]

Functionally circle I’ll buy, but I’d doubt it’s anything like a circle under much scrutiny. No fault of yours…it’s just geometrically impossible

[tropic crag]

Just like how you can make floating structures, and sideways foundations and such

The Ark building system is already VERY robust was my point

Gonna be interesting to see how they make it moreso

[blissful perch]

It’s ok…but that’s all I’m willing to give it

It’s frustrating every time I interface with it

[tropic crag]

You must not watch very many building youtubers then 😅

Shit is wild

[blissful perch]

Capacity does not mean a robust system

[tropic crag]

Just gotta know how to work it is all

[blissful perch]

It’s like saying breeding is excellent and complex, you just need to learn how to do it

Too much ark 1 building relies on orbital cam, janky snaps, and terrain clips

Ark builders make very impressive things, but imo the system handicaps them rather than empower them

[glacial totem]

As long as Ark 2 has valid primitive mode with no guns or bombs, not even a flintlock, then I'll be happy.

[tropic crag]

Not really what I'm getting at here, let me find you a vid real quick

[blissful perch]

All we have confirmed is no tek tier…nobody is sure yet about guns and that tier

[stray elm]

I'm pretty sure you can't share blueprints between other players

[tropic crag]

All blueprints in The Forest are shared between players, so I mean technically...

But yeah, obviously it has no base-game way to share an exact and all inclusive base layout to other players, no duh

But that's not the mechanic that was being contested

[stray elm]

Right, but the way it was worded was the blueprint system is for sharing, not construction. (at least the way it was worded)

"Instanced rendering and network-streaming enable much higher client and server performance for large, player-built structures, and a longer draw distance! Survivors can set up and save their own preferred building templates, share them, and place prospective template layouts in the world to then build them out as a team."
Also, it'd be pretty pog to see a base 20+ miles away if it's large enough.

[tropic crag]

...How would you make the blueprint if you don't have the ghost building system in the first place?

Ark 2 building is going to be just like Grounded and The Forest but with an Ark spin and the ability to share handmade builds, that's what I take from the store page 🤷‍♂️

[stray elm]

Touché.

[lavish rain]

For the longest time I though it would be a port a fort

[winged dome]

I like Grounded style building, more emphasis on carrying large pieces to make up components. Maybe Ark2 could do similar...

Craft like 'Wooden Building Supplies' from a smithy or similar structure, you can only carry like 10 of them or whatever, so you have to haul them from an existing base to build somewhere new or something

[modest scarab]

Are there any details for when in 2023 Ark 2 will be released?

[hallow wasp]

No there isn’t just 2023.

[modest scarab]

Ok ty

[winged dome]

🍻

[sonic elbow]

A Tek Rex Saddle was leaked.

[glass lagoon]

Rn

[covert tapir]

a concept and it looked all scrappy, its not gonna work

[swift hinge]

I feel like it’s not tek more just a upgraded armor like metal.

[covert tapir]

also santiago dislikes tek so hes not gonna teach the others much about it i guess

[swift hinge]

Yeah

[split dove]

most likely gonna be part of the component based crafting system, with non functional tek scrap possibly being a resource we can use

[past wind]

Agreed. Looked more like scrapped metal than tek

There are no laser guns as an example

[sonic elbow]

Obviously.

[sonic elbow]

And obviously.

I just like baiting the whiny prim players.

It funny.

[split dove]

they never said it was gonna be fully primitive, just ''primarily primitive'' compared to Ark 1, and non functional tek scrap is kinda primitive compared to it's useable functional ark 1 counterpart
So we're still ''primitive'' compared to the end of Ark 1 ☕

[keen idol]

Will be happy when it comes out on Steam

Been waiting to play ARK 2 since I heard the news about it

[split dove]

there might be news about the gameplay trailer and possible release window in the Ark franchise roadmap next month, along with possible news about The Ark 1 UE5 update and The Animated series

[keen idol]

That would be awesome. I am getting a bit bored with ARK. Killed all the bosses, leveled up and now it's time for a new game

[potent hull]

that way i am whating for ark 2

iam don with ark 1

[keen idol]

Yeah me too. I still have my base on ARK 1. I have too many big dinos to let it go yet. I give eggs away to bobs, and just help the server

[keen idol]

but I don't grow any dinos anymore, just a waste of time for me at this point, but I am glad to be able to help others on the server

[desert swallow]

by giving them super dinos?

[cold needle]

if ark 2 does not have the same caracter build options like ark 2 (the way to make ur caracters look very cool as we know) than i aint buying it its all about prosture and mussels

[stray elm]

I'd say it'll most likely have a more in-depth character-creation.

[split dove]

only thing about the character build options i don't want to see return is current everything low small goblins

[south lance]

itll have no character customization

you dont need it

just play as the best build

default bob

[split dove]

the default chad bob build

how should we waste the new metahuman system from UE5 they might use? by making speed goblins 2.0, keep the deformed stuff in for the laughs, if the hitbox is accurate you'll want to make a new character that doesn't have the hitbox of Kanye in that roblox costume 😂

[desert swallow]

I'll need super big hands and a small body to block bullets and arrows

[south lance]

just give goblins 2 torp

if they get hit by literally anything its a ko

[split dove]

Also 75% extra dmg taken from everything, them weak turkey arms/bones ain't blocking anything. Melee also 15% of normal dmg done

[south lance]

you also get vin diesel come into their room and throw them

out of the 2nd story window

so they learn to do more than minmax for pvp

[split dove]

Ah yes, the "accidental" Russian disappearance move

[lavish sparrow]

bruh whentf ark 2 gameplay coming out

all we've had are cinematics lol

I just wanna play a good survival game cuz man the gaming industry is so dry rn

the only games coming out are story games with 0 replayability (god of war) and f2p shooters

[tropic forge]

ho you probably gonna wait for a while for ark2, maybe next month they will hint a better date/delay 🤣 on the roadmap but yeh i get you but 3 more days a new survival gonna pop up

[lavish sparrow]

idk I'm just playing minecraft and apex until something interesting comes out

I enjoyed ark 1 pvp a ton and gathered 2k hours on it but got no one to play with and cba to find tribemates cuz everyones so toxic

[tropic forge]

thats what you gonna get on pvp dosent matter what game

[lavish sparrow]

I mean I can soloq on apex and if I'm cracked enough I can win but ark solo is just too time consuming

I just hope ark 2 won't be a flop

[tropic forge]

well i was solo on official pve and was just fine even help others but yeh having no one to play ark kinda sucks

[ripe marsh]

tbh, even if it turns out bad, I don't see Ark 2 flopping

[lavish sparrow]

pve it's fine but pvp solo is a nightmare

it's basically impossible

[split dove]

calm down, there might be something in the roadmap next month
''We're excited to announce that we'll reveal a development roadmap across all iterations of the ARK Franchise next month.'' they're also not forced to give you anything lol, gameplay and other stuff is just a bonus they give while finishing the game before it's off to the consumers, it's their product and up to them how/when they want to market it.

[atomic burrow]

Better to release it late and be more complete than to release early and not

Look at fallout 76😂

[winged dome]

🍻

[mortal kestrel]

like, next year

[lavish sparrow]

I mean I get that it takes time to make games but aren't they gonna make it early access anyways?

[mortal kestrel]

yeah

[split dove]

so far they haven't said ''ark 2 isn't coming out this year'', when it launches it's gonna be a early access launch for PC and Xbox, i doubt they're gonna say anything regarding that before next months roadmap. at most we might have a new concept art reveal before the roadmap drops.

Games take time to make, and Ark 2 is a early access title. but that doesn't mean they have to throw it out when it isn't ready yet. or do you want it out sooner and less optimized?

[mortal kestrel]

but its wildcard

i dont mind the delays that much, because it means they arent over working everyone and they genuinely care about the game

[mortal kestrel]

that last bit is why arkI turned out to be such a shit show

everyone rushed the devs and then complained about how terribly optimized the game was

[split dove]

foundation that took 7 months and was turned into spaghetti code didn't really help either

[mortal kestrel]

so I dont mind wildcard doing the exact opposite and actually trying to do arkII right

[mortal kestrel]

on the bright side, at least a recoded version of ark will be released on ue5 soon

which Im hyped for, it will show us a lot of what we can expect from arkII

[split dove]

now they cry that the devs take their time to make sure it works better, and that the same mistakes from Ark 1 aren't repeated. god forbid they have time off

[mortal kestrel]

right? there's no making people happy I swear 😔

[split dove]

the collective minimum IQ isn't that high with the ark playerbase

[blissful perch]

To be fair, the 7 months was likely the result of financial rather than community pressure

[split dove]

i'd rather have a better optimized game, where even regarding the amount of time it takes for the devs to finish it without having to go into crazy crunch hours to try and rush it to be ready for the public. Some people will always be impatient and want it out as soon as possible (even if it comes at the cost of being less optimized and more buggy like Ark 1's optimisation and many other rushed game launches)

[past wind]

I don’t know… as an early access they have some flexibility to release and fix on the go. Makes no sense to keep postponing the early access.

[split dove]

we might know more about gameplay and possibly a release timeframe next month. even though it's unlikely we get both it could still be a possibility

[remote cave]

wasn't ark 2 supposed to be released march '22?

Maybe it is going to be like with avatar, 12y to wait but then they will promise another 2 version year by yaer 😄

[split dove]

I don't know what kind of clickbait stuff you watched, it was never any date/month specific for 2022, now it's just 2023. delays happen, but it's better to delay and make sure it works instead of rushing it out when it isn't done yet to try and make profits and quickly lose the players bc the game is a unoptimized buggy mess.

[nova junco]

I'm happy I'm not the only one. I love pvp but finding chill people to play it with is like finding a needle in a haystack

[lavish sparrow]

ye

[nova junco]

That and the constant cheating kinda kill it for me

[lavish sparrow]

oh yea smalls cheating

[nova junco]

Yeah

[lavish sparrow]

Since ark is so grindy it attracts the biggest nolives on this earth

people leeching off their parents at the age of 25 playing ark 18hrs a day

[nova junco]

Right and when you nolife your social skills suffer 😂

[lavish sparrow]

My social skills suffer anyways lmao

[nova junco]

It's also the fact their entire identity is wrapped up in not getting wiped so they take it so seriously and are no fun because it's all they have

[lavish sparrow]

Ye

I hope Ark 2 is more friendly to solo's

[nova junco]

Same I hope they make having a ton of ppl in your tribe less efficient or something

[lavish sparrow]

tbh being solo is a problem in so many games

u literally cannot get to masters on apex without 3stacking

[nova junco]

I like the tc idea from rust, if you wanna build a giant base and a bunch of turret towers, you have to farm resources to maintain them and they can't just sit for a year with one person fulling up the ele/gas

[spark prism]

ark2 2025?

[nova junco]

Probably

[desert swallow]

If you make things hard to do in a group it will be too hard to do solo, if you make things easier to do solo you make a group that much more efficient and then you will have people burn out and leave the game due to not having anything to do, which in turn will lead to less people purchasing dlcs, microtransactions, etc. From a business stand point with games it is best to keep the player playing, which means making things challenging and fun. If one person feels the game is too hard and quits but 10 people are having a blast and sticking around, who do you think the company will cater to? Developers will aim to keep soloists around, but it'll never be as efficient as group play as the social aspect is what keeps most people playing for a long time.

In before "I only play solo, and have played ark since the beginning"

[lavish sparrow]

There's not even an attempt so support solo players lmao

[desert swallow]

In ark?

[lavish sparrow]

Pvp yes

[desert swallow]

I see many solo pvp videos on youtube

[lavish sparrow]

Unoffi

Official you can't get big as solo at all

[desert swallow]

why?

[lavish sparrow]

It's too hard?

[desert swallow]

why?

[lavish sparrow]

Have you even played pvp?

[desert swallow]

I have

Tell me why it's too hard

[lavish sparrow]

Because you don't have as many people to grind resources and do as many things at once

And you have less people to defend against a raid

And there are endless cheaters

[desert swallow]

cheaters are a problem I agree

[lavish sparrow]

And you are guaranteed to be offlined

Bro u clearly don't play pvp if you think solo isn't too hard

[desert swallow]

but the other stuff is just the nature of having a group to work with

if you want to 1vX people ark is not a game for you. Counter strike, fortnite?

I never said it wasn't hard to solo, but it makes complete sense that solo would be really hard

[lavish sparrow]

On smalls if ur a solo you literally can't progress fast enough before you get wiped

Cheaters are the biggest problem

With no connections too. Trust me dude, I've tried starting solo on smalls 5+ times

Only when I got tribemates did we get to the point where we had tekgrams

But we got offline meshed

[desert swallow]

I said I've played pvp

I know what it's like

[south lance]

solo is easy

just dont try to build in a cave

and get lucky finding a kit

[desert swallow]

solo = guerilla warfare.

I think people have the expectation of having a tek fortress as a solo

[south lance]

thats the issue

youre not meant to live like an alpha as a solo

youre thinking way too highly of yourself if you think its reasonable for you to outdo the collective efforts of 20 people

i think the hardest part is that so many people have quit official that its hard to find people to steal kits from who arent just bobs

im seeing so many more bob bases here and there

[untold ingot]

Not true lol. You just have to be smart about it. I spent a year on smalls as a solo

You have to play different, but not by much, and with gen2 you can get a pretty significant base after like 2 or 3 weeks of building up

[lavish sparrow]

yea not if cheaters find you

my biggest and only real problem was cheaters

[untold ingot]

Yeah, maybe. But most cheaters really suck at the game, and it's not really too hard to hide from them

[fallen swallow]

god I love men

wrong server

[drowsy hamlet]

Is it out yet 🤨

[terse shuttle]

unfortunately not Wan

[drowsy hamlet]

😕

[stray elm]

Yeah, you can buy it on www.Steam.com

[drowsy hamlet]

Lmao

[lavish sparrow]

Cheaters are the biggest problem though

You shouldn't have to build a base with a way to counter cheaters

you shouldn't have to take cheaters into consideration in pvp

[tropic crag]

You mean in official*

[split dove]

cheaters make sense on official, they all got no life over there ☕

cheating happens everywhere sadly, but cheating on official doesn't change the vibe of having no life that much

*90% of people on official, there is the minority that have jobs and leave the house regularly /s

[desert swallow]

For most people playing official is a waste of time.

PVP that is

Unofficials are policed far better in my experience.

[desert swallow]

Whatever floats your boat

[winged dome]

🍻

[vast pumice]

there isnt a release date for ark 2 yet right?

[lavish rain]

No

[vast pumice]

sad

[stray elm]

Other then '2023' no

[vast pumice]

so realistically the beginning of 2024

😛

[drowsy hamlet]

2025*

[velvet leaf]

I heard as 2023 June

[nova junco]

We haven't seen so much as a screenshot I doubt in June

[winged dome]

🍻

[drowsy hamlet]

I mean expect the worst that way it can only get better sadly whatever you expect of ark the can still make it worse 😂

[velvet leaf]

Hmmm'

[astral token]

My theory is that is when we’ll see gameplay

We’ll found in a week or 2

or 3 or 4

[winged dome]

I'm guessing some more concept art or in-game screenshots/teasers through April/May. Gameplay Juneish

[tropic forge]

gotta wait for the roadmap unless even that they delay 🤣

[blissful perch]

Can you delay something that doesn’t have a release date?

[astral token]

No but u can delay something with a release window

[velvet leaf]

Ah

[split dove]

we might know more whenever the roadmap drops next month

[velvet leaf]

Yep

[lavish rain]

Yes you can

[astral token]

We’ll found? What was my brain

I guess found+out=found

[wanton pike]

Release date was 2022, then 2023. If they announce that it will release in 2024, then it’ll be delayed

[worldly garden]

2022 is not a release date.

[blissful perch]

How many people need to misread my message - I’m referring to the road map

[upbeat kestrel]

Annoying right? And the only info they realise on gameplay is photos of dino we have seen 100s of times, when do we get to see the gameplay or New features being added to the game?

[upbeat kestrel]

Road map? There is no road map, as Dutch stated, it was set to realise in 2022 but got delayed to 2023, now for all we know it could be next year as they removed the realise date from there pages

My opinion is that I think it will come out this year, but probably be around Christmas time is my best guess as they have contracts to keep with Microsoft

[fallow niche]

There is going to be a road map, which is what Shifter is talking about.

[upbeat kestrel]

😂 idk with wild card I doubt they will say anything more 😂 probly remove it and pretend nothing happend like usual

[split dove]

and the date being removed is a steam thing for all titles with dates being just ''2023'' unless wildcard/other developers give them a date themselves

[upbeat kestrel]

They signed a contract with xbox, they have to make the game in so many years from signing of contract, hence why it will be on game pass on realise, xbox are basically paying for ark 2 development

[lavish rain]

If they pull that things would get ugly

[upbeat kestrel]

Idk wouldn't be the 1st time 😂

Remember when they said they would realise info at next major event, took em months of beating round the bush to say something about it

And all we got was an apology and weekly photos of dinos we have seen ligit 100s of times, idk not much faith in wc at the moment

Even the brachiosaurus isn't new, pretty sure it's been a mod for ark for years now

[untold ingot]

The thing you are mentioning here wasn't any info that got pulled lol. To my knowledge wildcard has yet to make an ark2 announcement and then delete it lol

[blissful perch]

Weekly photos of creatures reconcepted for ark 2, which is a soft confirm they’re gonna make it into the roster is…pretty nice news

Prior to last week’s for example, we had no idea if the carno was coming to ark 2

[blissful perch]

Are you expecting aliens in all the concept art reveals? Pretty sure the point was for them to be a place that confirms “this ark 1 creature made it into ark 2 - and here’s what it’ll look like”

[split dove]

all we knew before they shared more art was the stuff from the trailers, they should be happy we're getting more inbetween the trailer and gameplay tbf. Wildcard could've easily gone radio silent and given us nothing until the gameplay tbh. now with the roadmap i'd say we're getting news kinda consistently

[untold ingot]

The concept art never was supposed to be a big major announcement either lol, it's just for the interim while they prep the big announcement

[split dove]

we only got it bc people wanted more news:

• we want more ark 2 info
  WC: shares concept art and tidbits
• You said the next thing we would see was gameplay
  WC: you asked for this
• Wildcard bad, they ''lied''
  Ark community in a nutshell

[iron sequoia]

It’s sad how true this is

[split dove]

☕

[astral token]

When rates permanently increased: Game BROKEN SHITTY devs

When event ends: Next event when? devs SHITTY no evo can’t even give us event

[split dove]

the ark community has the vocal majority with a collective iq of 31, the minority of smart people here know how to look up factual info and have basic reading comprehension

[astral token]

The average is -35

The sum total is definitely not a positive number

[split dove]

i always forget the -, might be me being too kind

[astral token]

The sum total might be something like…maybe a few hundred thousands in the negatives

[covert tapir]

it picks up with santiago at the end of ark 1 and ark 2 will continue that story

[split dove]

it' still gonna be a multiplayer sandbox game like Ark 1, so the core of the game will be the same, but revamped/upgraded to give a better experience with upgraded old and new mechanics. story is also confirmed on the steam page.
''Starring Vin Diesel ("Riddick") as legendary ARK hero Santiago, experience an epoch-spanning adventure as he seeks to protect his daughter Meeka -- voiced by Auli'i Cravalho ("Moana") -- from the ghosts of the ancient past and visions of a new future.''

[lavish rain]

Why should we care about protecting meeka

[untold totem]

because it's Vin's Daughter

[south lance]

she can just respawn

dumb kid shouldnt be so stupid next time

[nova junco]

Because familreee

[lavish rain]

So? She isn't useful in any way

She is disposable

[wanton pike]

If being specific, if you have a deadline to make and you can’t make it in the current year as you have agreed to with your boss, is it delayed then?

[untold totem]

i made this quote on italic for sarcasm

[lavish rain]

So you agree with me?

[untold totem]

duh

[lavish rain]

It's not always obvious

Seriously though, what does meeka have that's so important

[south lance]

nop

[lavish rain]

Yes it has a price

Your kidney and your time

Ur using ur most valuable asset which is your time to play funny dinosaur alien game

[untold ingot]

Yes

[mint swan]

I agree with you. 2022 might not be a “specific” release date, but there are oftentimes projects assigned in jobs for the following year/current year as deadlines. For example, last year my company did major server and system upgrades with a deadline of 2022. When it was first discussed, the due date was literally by 2022. If we hadn’t had finished it and it leaked into 2023, it would have been considered a delay and missing a deadline

[untold ingot]

It's software. Software typically has delays, it's not an easily plannable thing lol

[split dove]

considering it's a early access title it will likely cost less than a full launch game, as it's basicly forced to cost less due to it being early access

[covert tapir]

i dont think itll cost less

but i do hope it comes out as early access i want weekly creature updates like in ark 1

[split dove]

it will cost less 9/10 times ''games in Early Access are usually a smidge cheaper than fully released ones. These games generally tend to be cheaper than what they would be if it was officially released as a full game. The perk here is that you will technically own the game for cheaper than if you would buy it post-release.''
The pricing is up to the devs, but most of the time it's less than a full release title.

[blissful perch]

It’s confirmed early access…but I think the days of weekly creature launches are behind us

It looks to me like any ark 2 creature is gonna be substantially more polished and complex than slapping raptor code on a new model. I think semi annual or quarterly updates may be more realistic

[split dove]

better to have quality over quantity for all Ark 2 creatures compared to most Ark 1 creatures

[blissful perch]

True, but even just to have a “par” ark 2 creature based on what the game promises imo it’ll be a substantial increase in work

[lavish rain]

Souls combat for dinod gonna be janky as hell

[south lance]

itd be fine to have a few tameable creatures and a bunch of untameable ones

reduce total code time

[blissful perch]

Disagree. Monster hunter slam dunked the concept

[south lance]

still have all you really want mechanics wise

you dont need 40 different medium sized fast carnivores

[blissful perch]

I can’t argue for this considering I find the soul of ark to be in taming much of the wildlife

[south lance]

i dislike most tames

[blissful perch]

Now maybe we don’t need 40 different near identical creatures but that’s another argument imo

[south lance]

they are outright useless

and theres physically only so many different tames you can have

id like there to be a lot of small filler dinos sorta like the various small fish

[blissful perch]

I think you’re wrong about your wants tbh. Would you want the same 20 creatures in most biomes?

[south lance]

nah i want there to be a few important creatures in each biome + filler

4 or 5 per biome

well

maybe more

but then thats not happening cause coding takes time apparently

[blissful perch]

I think it is happening and that’s why it’s taking so long

[south lance]

maybe if ark1 is <4 biomes

then it works

i would like all creatures to be tameable only cause its more options, i just dont think its as important as making them fit into the environment

cause most creatures will be useless

after tame

[blissful perch]

There’s no reason for them to be. PvP viability ≠ useful though

[south lance]

i get that

but i think pve viability is generally even more restrictive

i think decent example maybe is parasaur, unless people use it to detect babies ig

a lot of dinosaurs were given tlc with pvp in mind tho, so a lot of examples might be unfair

though i still dunno how much you can tailor a creature to be primarily pve viable

[lavish rain]

How about just have less biodiversity period

If we have a bunch of creatures those ought to be tameable

[south lance]

more to your point, i disagree that there isnt a reason for tameables to be useful. Its wasted production time to include all the ways you can tame something if players get proportionally little joy from it

maybe not the strongest reason but still important

[lavish rain]

Less creatures period seems to bet the solution to that @south lance

[south lance]

yeah but i do want a game that looks alive

20 creatures is what id expect on half an island map

not a proper modern ark experience imo

[lavish rain]

Yes a proper ark experience

I think aliens

[south lance]

actually now that i think about it

i think i could only count 20 or 30 important creatures on island off the top of my head

[lavish rain]

There you go

Hence my solution

[blissful perch]

fine, then pve viability also isn't a proxy for useful

it's more about how flexible the sandbox is

you CAN ride a saber or carry a pego around in pve if that's what you want...and that's a big unique piece of ark

[south lance]

yeah its nice

i just dont want to double creature drop times for it

[blissful perch]

well the time it takes for a new creature is entirely linked to how complex "a creature" is

the surrounding biosphere may vary a lot, but if a creature needs multiple senses and souls like attacks and animations...it'll take longer to make

[upbeat kestrel]

If I wanted dinos from ark 1 i would keep playing ark 1 👀 sooo many other time periods and dinos to add or explore

Also pretty sure last time I checked photos isn't gameplay 🤔

[split dove]

username checks out for what's being written down

[blissful perch]

idk about you, but i love old gen pokemon in new games 🙂

[upbeat kestrel]

But you don't see pokemon showing off a new game and showing off old pokemon do you 🤔

And if you do it's gameplay not concept art

[stray elm]

They have a point

As cool as returning creatures are, they're not going to top new creatures

[upbeat kestrel]

Idk about you but I actually try and follow all ark info 👍

And yes the game was set to realise in 2022 and no gameplay 👍

[desert swallow]

fix old! no new!

[stray elm]

Silence trend!

[upbeat kestrel]

Also just think what the servers will be like if they carnt handle 1/2 a server without crashing or lagging every 5 mins

[split dove]

ok and? a target date set at the end of 2020 for something 2 years later can always change over the course of development as is bound to happen eventually with software design. old creatures returning being showed off is to convey like Shifter said “this ark 1 creature made it into ark 2 - and here’s what it’ll look like” they might want to save the new creatures to be revealed closer to launch or when the roadmap will be shared next month. did we already forget the pandemic might have had a bigger effect on development after they announced it, as well as it probably wasn't as restrictive when they made the announcement?

[stray elm]

I get why they're doing it.
But I myself am looking forward more to the potential of new creatures then returning ones.

[upbeat kestrel]

Even so could show us something new otherwise its ark with mods

[stray elm]

They technically have.

Aratai's and the lizard-plant

I'd be down to see some Aratai concept-art

[upbeat kestrel]

Yes a new dino

Have they? Nope

[stray elm]

They have, in the original trailer.

[upbeat kestrel]

They even realised rex armour concept art which was removed in 1h of post

[stray elm]

Oh, that wasn't concept art

That was images of the model.

But again, we've seen the Aratai and the lizard-plant, which are in fact new creatures

[upbeat kestrel]

That's concept art

[split dove]

*released, and that render post from ConceptLabs was taken down as Wildcard probably didn't want to reveal it yet

[stray elm]

That's not what concept-art means

Those where fully rendered models of the saddle, not a painted image.

[upbeat kestrel]

Think you need to Google the meaning

[stray elm]

"Concept art is a form of visual art used to convey an idea for use in films, video games, animation, comic books, or other media before it is put into the final product. "

Visual art: "The visual arts are art forms such as painting, drawing, printmaking, sculpture, ceramics, photography, video, filmmaking, design, crafts and architecture. Many artistic disciplines such as performing arts, conceptual art, and textile arts also involve aspects of visual arts as well as arts of other types."

The model was done, and so it wouldn't be 'concept art'
Think you need to Google the meaning.

[upbeat kestrel]

Before it is put into final product

Didn't look finished to me

Concept art

[stray elm]

Then you're blind

The saddle was done, and the original tweet even stated so

[split dove]

told you

[stray elm]

Yeah, I can see why they're named that now.

[upbeat kestrel]

Think you need to read my man, and actually understand definitions

Does ark 2 look like a final product to you 😂

[stray elm]

ARK 2 isn't finished, but the model we're talking about was completed.

[upbeat kestrel]

Learn to read

Before it is put into the final product

It's not a final product

[stray elm]

It was shown in the second ARK-2 trailer, so that'd roughly mean it's within their engine. And so implemented.

[upbeat kestrel]

Is it out yet

No then how is it a final product

It's concept art of ark 2, just bc its a completed modle don't mean anything, the product is ark 2

[stray elm]

@split dove You wanna entertain this man?
I'm done.

[split dove]

you think i didn't let you take over without reason?
told you username checks out and it's of no use

[south lance]

the game isnt even real its all just cgi artists making stuff in blender

[stray elm]

Understandable.

[thick moat]

i can't read this guy no more without sending this message right now💀

[lavish sparrow]

It confirmed if Ark 2 is a "windows and xbox" exclusive?

Don't wanna have to dual boot just for ark 2

[prisma pike]

And steam

[lavish sparrow]

will it run under proton?

[prisma pike]

Just no ps basically

[lavish sparrow]

or is it gonna use a bullshit anticheat

[prisma pike]

Idk

[lavish sparrow]

I have a unnatural hatred towards platform exclusives and microsoft

[prisma pike]

Doubt they've even stated anything of that sort

[lavish sparrow]

Ark 1 had a native linux build but they stopped updating it

hope they do the same for ark 2 considering way more people have chosen not to use bullshit OS

[prisma pike]

Check the pins of this channel and see if what you're looking for is there

[blissful perch]

i was popping off pretty hard in XY when i saw 3D models of old pokemon

ofc we did see an entirely new dinosaur to ark vanilla (brachi), but we also are getting a look at concept art for arat's biomes and how old creatures will look in ark 2's new (and one could hope improved) models

I suspect we won't see any aliens until we get super close to launch, since new creatures probably need more extensive concepting, testing, etc...and may be in a more flux state (where at any moment they get axed, added, etc) than returning creatures

[lavish rain]

So your saying nothing interesting til close to launch?

Revealing the carno is basically nothing

[blissful perch]

disagree, I think the biome reveal and the change in model design is pretty compelling

[lavish rain]

I'm more excited for biome reveals then Dino reveals

[stray elm]

Fair

[lavish rain]

Knowing what the map looks like will excite me more then whatever aliens they could bring know the gane

[pearl tangle]

[blissful perch]

highly valid take, no judgement from me there

[peak frost]

i get that this is probably unrealistic, but isnt ark II meant to come out before/in june? I think thats what was said at the xbox game thing last june. Although, a pushback to around december doesnt seem too far off either

[stray elm]

It's 'theorized' to come out June or before, but that's a fan-theory.

[peak frost]

well during the game thing (cant remember the name) they said all the mentioned games were set so come out in the next 12 months, alough "set to" does indicate some flexibility is likely. For example, ark II, silksong AND starfied before or during june does seem very far off

[stray elm]

Yep, but these where Microsoft titles that these rules applied to.
Some games iirr in the showcase had later dates that aren't Microsoft-based

[peak frost]

oh, okay. either way we got some great ones coming this year

[tawny atlas]

Rejected

[eager flame]

I’m sorry, I don’t think I quite understand that response. Would you mind elaborating on it?

[untold ingot]

Bro is trying to sound like an ai lol

[untold ingot]

Honestly same. The dinos will be fairly similar to what was in ark1 I think, but the maps will be totally different

[worldly garden]

Does not compute.

[astral token]

What about the aliens 👁️

[untold ingot]

They are just aliens...

Loads of games have aliens.

[short fulcrum]

Map > aliens

[untold ingot]

Aliens is not what is going to make or break ark2 lol

[astral token]

But the potential for imaginative creations!

[south lance]

would it really be so bad if we had a bunch of AI chatbots in ark2 chat

i wanna train an AI on just this channels messages

i think it would like asking about dates a lot

[short fulcrum]

Don't

[south lance]

why

[eager flame]

It’d be funny tho

[short fulcrum]

[untold ingot]

Imagine the amount of toxic contradictions lol

[south lance]

itd be epic

[blissful perch]

It would have brief moments of exceeding clarity then return to normal and ask when ark 2 is coming out

[marble thunder]

How many times have you already watched the ARK 2 teaser (released in December 2020), and the ARK 2 trailer (released in June 2022)?

😆

[blissful perch]

I’m ashamed to admit every time I watch the first ark 2 reveal I tear up at how excited I am to become a part of Arat’s world

[rancid harness]

Inb4 aliens are what make or break ark 2

[desert swallow]

Ark 2: "What if we were the aliens all along!"

[rancid harness]

It's funny because we are baybeeeee let's gooooooooo

Wonder if at some point we'll be able to befriend the Aratai

[desert swallow]

Over enough dlcs definately

every game does that, you have your side and the enemy side, then in the dlc a new enemy emerges and now you're friends with your original enemy.

[worldly garden]

Multiplayer should allow people to play as Aratai. would be much better people playing as opposing forces instead of all being the same.

[tropic forge]

that could be a feature for pvp

[bold juniper]

No I want to be an aratai

[untold ingot]

Either this would turn ark into a cod groundwar, or it would die I think.

I am okay with playing as aratai, but in opposing teams?

Like it's either got to be everyone peaceful for pve, or all out free for all for pvp

[rancid harness]

Or maybe playing Aratai would come with the ability to interface with the npc aratai, but you take certain debufs to balance it or something?

Different races would be an interesting twist to Ark 2

[untold ingot]

Well, if you can play as aratai, then there would have to be human npcs

[rancid harness]

But I don't see us being able to use Aratai as more than a skin

Nah, any player aratai could be an exile or outcast type deal

Easy fix.

[untold ingot]

I would really hate for ark2 to devolve into a hzd reskin

[blissful perch]

I’m very down to have a massive 2 team PvP system 😂

[rancid harness]

It won't xD There's literally no way for it to

[untold ingot]

It'll get old quick

[untold ingot]

Uh, lol, there is everyway for it to, and that's what the pvp community doesn't want lol

[blissful perch]

It probably won’t, since you can still be a functional solo or not as you wish 🤷‍♂️

HZD was excellent though. Only downside for multiplayer is that it uses coyote time lol

[astral token]

What jn the world is coyote time

[untold ingot]

Having a massive 2 team pvp, either it needs frequent rollover, or it'll be extremely unbalanced

[astral token]

Is it like morbin’ time?

[untold ingot]

It was excellent for sp. It would be horrific for any multiplayer

[blissful perch]

It’s that slow motion effect you get when you draw the bow in HDZ. It originates I believe from the pause before Will E Coyote falls after running off a cliff

[rancid harness]

I guess what do you mean by a HZD reskin. There are a lot of elements at play that even ark 1 shares with hzd

[untold ingot]

A forced storyline is what I mean

I think a forced storyline would kill ark

[blissful perch]

I’d hardly call HDZ a forced story line

[rancid harness]

Same

[blissful perch]

Story game for sure, but it’s extremely open world and flexible

[untold ingot]

You still have to play the story

[rancid harness]

Sort of?

[blissful perch]

I mean if you want to win I guess? Then again ark story is mandatory too for PvP since I hear no tekgrams = you’re screwed

[rancid harness]

Outside of the tutorial, the only place I was held back because I hadn't progressed the story was a single time in an area that relied on the local boss being beaten to change the environment

[untold ingot]

You don't have to do things in order, nor do you have to do anymore than you want to lol

[rancid harness]

In all 70 hours of playtime.

[untold ingot]

That 70 is the key.

Story games have between 15 and 100 hours of gameplay before you have done literally everything

[rancid harness]

Horizon isn't a surivial game.

my b

[untold ingot]

Adding human npcs to a game without some ridiculously good ai makes every game worse and monotonous imo

And I have never seen one with ai good enough lol

[untold totem]

Conan intensifies

[rancid harness]

Then I can't wait to see what Ark 2 does with the concepts they've laid out 😉

[untold ingot]

Conan is really good until late game

Then it falls off

Mainly because of how bad their ai is.

You have to move to multi-player to fix that, and multi-player Conan is dead lol

[blissful perch]

I mean…you can play an RPG for 10k hours easily with the ai being as simple as you’d like but the numbers being higher 🤷‍♂️

[untold ingot]

Like what game?

[blissful perch]

Name your favorite MMO?

[untold ingot]

Ark

[rancid harness]

Not an mmo

[untold ingot]

Doesn't mmo just mean massively multi-player online?

[blissful perch]

Eve, RuneScape, WoW, ark, all have that feature

[untold ingot]

Technically even cod is mmo lol

[rancid harness]

But the mechanics in those games are intentionally part of the system, especially with RS where tick rates and moving npcs is part of the puzzle.

[blissful perch]

I’d argue ark is the weakest example of what I describe for sure

[untold ingot]

Eve is good because it has a fantastic economy system run by players, runescape is old and I have never touched it lol, I don't really know anything about wow tbh

[rancid harness]

MMO means any online video game in which a player interacts with a large number of other players.

[untold ingot]

So ark lol

[rancid harness]

On a relative scale, ark does not count with a maximum of 60

often hundreds or thousands, on the same server

[untold totem]

100 player ARK exist

megatribes go beyond that

[rancid harness]

You could barely argue that a 100 player server counts as an mmo. Mmo's are reliant on the stipulation "at the same time"

[untold ingot]

I played in a mega with 2k people at one point. Tell me that isn't mmo lol

Ark is just modular

[rancid harness]

All on the same server?

[untold totem]

IIRC NaturalCauses made a 100 player event lol and that is at the same time

the whole "60 limit" thing is more of a server issue

[rancid harness]

Again, could barely argue that as an mmo, especially since it's a one time short event.

[untold ingot]

There is no game where you have thousands of people playing on the same server... At best its just the same network

[blissful perch]

I’d argue that megas are guilds, which can exist on or off an MMO

[rancid harness]

Tera, runescape, wow, BDO, GW2, Lost Ark, etc

[untold totem]

i dont recall an MMO reach higher numbers beyond hundreds either knowing they have other servers as well

[untold ingot]

Servers mean physical hardware. You don't have thousands of people playing on the same physical hardware

[untold totem]

it's impossible fitting 100k people in a server without a server box exploded

[untold ingot]

Like, not even possible

[blissful perch]

Ark official is technically an MMO, but it certainly lacks what most folks expect in an MMO, namely clean server transferring and cross server guilds/tribes

[rancid harness]

Idk what you guys want lol, google "what is an mmo"

[untold ingot]

They have a different framework for interaction with tmservers than ark. Ark1 necessitates a modular approach to servers, while other games can hide that due to more simple game structure

[blissful perch]

Yea I did, and technically ark fits, much as I dislike that it does lol

[rancid harness]

Okiedokie

[untold totem]

MMO means Massive Multiplayer Online

not "entire population of China in one server"

[untold ingot]

Just means you can interact with the entire population, and in ark on official you can

Ark is mmo in the same way that minecraft is

[rancid harness]

=_=

[untold totem]

most serverboxes can fit hundreds at most depending how beefy the server box and how good the internet is

[untold ingot]

Ark is not an mmorpg, which is what I am thinking you mean when you say mmo lol

[blissful perch]

Gonna have to stop ya there

[untold totem]

what you are looking for specifically is "themed MMO RPG"

ARK is a "Sandbox MMO Survival"

[blissful perch]

There’s no connected official network for minecraft like there is for ark lmfao

[untold ingot]

Well, yes, but minecraft has a modular approach to servers

Tbh, unless it's a single player game, you would have a hard time finding a game that isn't an mmo (at least loosely)

[blissful perch]

A game with lots of people playing online ≠ an MMO

[untold ingot]

This is all semantics though. Ark2 needs to be an mmo, that isn't a cod or mmorpg type game, because that is what the player base is used to and expects

[blissful perch]

An MMO requires that a large number of online players be somehow connected throughout gameplay

[blissful perch]

About 50% you mean? Unofficials and SP don’t play an MMO and don’t expect it

[untold ingot]

Unofficials still do lol

And I would be very surprised if 50% of the player base was on sp

[blissful perch]

A cluster with 5-10 people isn’t an MMO 😂

I can count on one hand the number of clusters I’m aware of that have large enough pop to be MMO sized

[untold ingot]

I mean, a Google said people think 20-50 is the minimum, and loads of the longer duration unofficials have way more than that

[blissful perch]

20 is the minimum for an MMO…wild

[untold ingot]

Some people say 200

There is no agreed upon minimum

[blissful perch]

Though it’s true idk what on earth else ark 2 is gonna be for official use

[untold ingot]

The fact that unofficial has the capacity for it would make me consider it mmo

[blissful perch]

I wonder how it’s going to manage the RPG/survival tension though

[untold ingot]

I don't really want it to hard focus on either tbh

[blissful perch]

Right now the tension is poor. The RPG has total control over the survival

[untold ingot]

Focusing on rpg in a game forces you to a certain playstyle, and too much survival and it becomes tarkov or something equally dreadful lol

[untold ingot]

I would say the sandbox holds the control, tbh

[blissful perch]

Hardly…you need levels, capped lines, high level BPs and tekgrams to survive do you not?

[untold ingot]

On pvp, yes

[blissful perch]

All of that limitation guts the sandbox right out of the PvP

[untold ingot]

On pve no

[untold ingot]

Not really tbh