ark-2

[verbal wind]

bring out your dead

[stray elm]

Okay, I'm rewatching the live-action TMNT movie....and not gonna lie..
I kind of want a form of Shredders armor in ARK-2.

[split dove]

☕ 🧐

[verbal wind]

ark 1 has needed better looking armor

[split dove]

as long as the turtles remain there i will take it

[mint swan]

I’d love the armour to be more customizable and also better looking overall

[stray elm]

For reference, I mean the 2014 live-action.
The shredder armor that's like a mini-mech.

[split dove]

it might be with the new component based crafting system

[mint swan]

Ooooh, sounds fancy

[split dove]

''Construct your weapons and tools from a range of distinct modules to customize their look and functionality -- millions of possible combinations enable you to craft your own unique gear! The specific materials you choose will further affect the appearance of your items, with multiple options of resources found in unique regions of the world.''

[stray elm]

I don't know, the idea of a big-ass metal armor that has spikes all over it, and said spikes can be shot from the hands sounds badass.

[split dove]

calm down cheesegrader fanboy

[stray elm]

I love cheese!

[split dove]

i want armour that looks like a cheesegrader . best offence and defence potential to go along with that allo skull club

[mint swan]

Yk about the rex skull helmet? Imagine a full Dino bone armour set

[grim kestrel]

I could see that being more a skin they add with events

[mint swan]

Oooh for the Halloween event!

[stray elm]

Now thinking about it, it could act as a tradeoff armor-set.
Able to take a lot of ballistic damage, but not but physical blunt damage.
And you can't ride any creatures while in it, but with the benefit of being a literal walking porcupine.

[split dove]

Cheesegrader army, rise up for war

[grim kestrel]

I prefer farming chibis over skins during holiday events myself

[untold ingot]

I mean, you can do both simultaneously now

[mint swan]

Replace tek dinosaurs with cheese grater dinosaurs

[stray elm]

YEAH!

[grim kestrel]

I had to make three vaults every event that how serious I went in for chibis

[ancient star]

i would like to see cross breeding dinos have like a light med. and heavy line and be able to breed certain stats and abilities and get different combinations.

think of it like a lion tiger you get lyger

[mint swan]

Giga wyvern

Giga wyvern

[grim kestrel]

That sounds cool, although it should probably stay with similar dinos, like Carno/Rex, Thyla/Sabertooth, Argy/Ptera, etc

[mint swan]

Argy is a mammal, and ptera is a reptile- how would that work?

[ancient star]

say mammal with mammal and reptile so on like ocean animals same type

so that that way not so much code to type for now

mamm with rhino

argy with gryph

higher weight gryph

see

[mint swan]

I’m thinking raptor/deinonychus, rex/giga, etc

[grim kestrel]

Argy/Snow Owl

[ancient star]

dolphin with whale higher health but give it less damage take the lower stat

yes argy snow owl argy with heat vision

it dont have to be a million things just some rare cross breeding sometimes you just get argent sometimes just an ol snow owl

make it a rare even

something fun that when you kill all the boss's gives you a reason to play

lmao daedon and wolf self healing wolf

[mint swan]

That would be really really neat, it would be both useful and a fun trophy tame

[stray elm]

I think that'd be way too much time and resources to put into, personally.

[ancient star]

it can be a few animals to start with and say you have to get or do something to learn a DNA type and take time to even study cross breeding

[grim kestrel]

It could even do a combination, like possibilities of Argy and Snow Owl:

Weight/Healing

Damage/Infared

Weight/gliding

Damage/healing

etc..

[ancient star]

lol breeding and stuff was some of the best parts for me the boss's were meh once you did them that was it

[grim kestrel]

Basically be the mutation type instead of stat watching

[ancient star]

massive base build yawnnnnn ok did that boring also

yes

improved mutations over stat breeding

its a freaking alien ship for reals

why not

[tropic crag]

I like where your head is at, but the methods... maybe not so much 😅

Breeding for muts is the single worst mechanic in Ark, make crossbreeding species a minigame or something and you have me

[ancient star]

it would take time to type out a full spred sheet on breedable think easy way pikmin of kibble work kinda like that certain dinos certain ability to breed with each other then only certain stats can be shared or mutated and looks moders have been making mods like this for a long time

[tropic crag]

Like the Bioshock puzzles, but you insert genes in a sequencer or something maybe 🤩

[grim kestrel]

If breeding mutation was appearance and abilities of cross breeding, there would be some very........interesting looking dinos

[tropic crag]

Always hoped that they'd do creature mashups with the mutagen when I first heard about it

[stray elm]

I was hoping It'd actually do more then increasing levels and boss requirements.

[tropic crag]

Yeah 🫤

[stray elm]

Like c'mon, it's literally called 'muta'gen.
Could've done something else like, giving a random mutation on a creature. Or had a creature like the Ferox that gets mutated whenever you feed it some, or some shit.

[tropic crag]

I'm glad it did what it did, but it could've been so much more

[stray elm]

That's how I feel with every official DLC.
'Good, but could've been better with more time and less engine limitations'

[grim kestrel]

One change to breeding I think would make it better, instead of a 2ft to 100yds want to go on a walk, cuddle, or snack. Make the imprints require actually using the baby dinos.

Example:

Baby- This is where imprint is feeding

Juvenile- This is where you walk them

Adolescent- This is where they can move at their full speed, imprint would either be attack specific dino, harvest dino, or at this stage you could mount and have to travel so far as a bonding concept.

[mint swan]

I’m all for making raising babies a more fun and enjoyable experience

[verbal wind]

kinda agree for the dlc, except gen 1. it just sucked all around

[grim kestrel]

I like lunar with flyers enabled on unofficial, it was a good element dust map then

and tek tame map

Tek Raptors might be my favorite mid size dinos

[verbal wind]

i loved deinons since they were introduced

[grim kestrel]

Had a tribe member that did to, they were the only reason he would go to Val lol

[verbal wind]

val was kind of a meh map and after a while the lighting would glitch and i had to mess with the gamma. days became blindingly bright and night became pitch black

[grim kestrel]

Val Helm castle was a nice base, although it only possible really to fully use on unofficial cause the dugout there was considered a cave so had to have cave building on

[verbal wind]

that was such a disappointment

don't give us this nice reference area if we can't build there

[grim kestrel]

Worked out for me cause I had just happened to be on an unofficial that I was a server admin for lol

But that was probably the shortest cluster to live cause the owner had it so boosted the only challenge was boss battles, you could literally fight a giga on foot.

The reason boss battles were tough cause he had the difficulty .5 for them, so like the tek cave everything was level 1500

imagine 2 level 1500 gigas

The owner didn't even try to kill them, he used pheromone darts and lured them into the lava

But no the sheer over boosted rates outside of boss battles just made that cluster so boring couldn't keep a player base.

But that server the only reason I have done all the boss battles except Gen2 and SE cause neither of those existed at the time.

[coral night]

Someone have new from Ark 2 release

[grim kestrel]

Only information currently is it is slated for June

[mighty lion]

The pins have everything confirmed

[verbal wind]

take a drink

[mint swan]

Is ark 2 Microsoft exclusive?

[astral token]

At launch, will come to PS later

[winged dome]

Allegedly, I'm not even sure I'd consider Xbox Game Pass release timeframes as anything more than speculation

[blissful perch]

So nobody corrected this?

[astral token]

Argentavis is an avian, a bird…not a mammal 💀

[blissful perch]

Thank you

[elfin pumice]

Are pterosaurs reptiles?

[ripe cedar]

Tbf they are a lasagna

[split dove]

everything is just a unique spaghetti mold

[blissful perch]

Yes

Dinosaurs were the bridge between reptiles and birds. Pterosaurs and marine reptiles have no relationship to birds

[south lance]

i miss pterosaurs

[blissful perch]

As you should. Though I miss trilobites more

[south lance]

we got horseshoe crabs at least

[lime flicker]

I love horseshoe crabs

[winged dome]

Pretty cute, but biiiiiig nope unexpectedly finding one bumping your foot when not expecting it

[split dove]

☕

[mint swan]

do you guys think they will optimize ark 2 maybe well enough so you need similar specs to ark1 on medium settings or will they make ark2 a failure with optimization too and youll need something like alienware level to run it on max graphics and whatever specs u need for ark 1 on max settings to run ark 2 on lowest settings?

[south lance]

i think they'll optimize

but youll probably need a <3 yr old card to run on max

[mint swan]

so should i with my laptop that can run ark 1 on medium to max settings (its a bit laggy on max settings) be able to run ark2 smoothly?

[south lance]

on medium maybe

[mint swan]

im not saying ark2 on max settings , even lowest

[split dove]

if they wanted the game out unoptimzed they probably would've done so already. it's likely gonna be better optimised than Ark 1 in general

[mint swan]

i just want to know if i can play it on my pc on day 1 or untill they release it on geforce now so i can play it on max settings there

[tropic forge]

naaa you need dual 4090 nvlink to run minimal ark2 grafics

[split dove]

''sigh'' goodbye my car

[south lance]

you cant know till its out

[mint swan]

what do you think about the space? will it be 400gbs~ too?

[south lance]

🤷‍♂️ prob not

[mint swan]

i only have 1tb so i may need to give up one of them if thats the case

[south lance]

i dont see ark1 being enjoyable if ark2 is done right

[tropic forge]

space you need about 2tbits of space pretty sure for base game

[mint swan]

i think thats the purpose of ark2 , unless they horribly fail at it

[south lance]

just not much there besides moderate player counts if ark2 has 80% the same stuff and more

if they do fail then at least you dont worry about all this then

but id hold off getting it day1

week 2 sure

week 1 will be effectively the largest public test

[mint swan]

ahh ure saying cus of lagg and other stuff like this or just bugs?

[south lance]

because you dont know if those things will be an issue

we physically cannot know

[mint swan]

i wonder if buying it pre-earlyaccess-release will affect the price of me buying it once its out and i see some gameplay

[south lance]

see what others find out

[mint swan]

this we can know because its how its with all games , but idk exactly
should i buy it day 1 ? or will a discount come fast?

i dont remember ark 1 having any discounts for like a year or half a year or so

i mean back in 2015 when it aired early access

[south lance]

buying day 1 or day 8 shouldnt be any different price wise

[mint swan]

ahh then ill buy it anyway

[south lance]

by day 8 youll know if the games worth dumping money on

[mint swan]

no worries i already did this with ESO when it was 120$ lmao

[split dove]

it will likely cost less than a normal game due to it being early access

[mint swan]

now its like 10$ or 20$

[mint swan]

yes , but for me it would be double , i have a wife(she loves ark as much as me) and i cant not buy it for her the same time i buy it for myself

🤔 it will be my late 2023 valentines day gift

hopefully not too late lol

[wise gyro]

@mint swan

[mint swan]

i wonder if they all immersive gameplay , like in ark1 primitive+ with the immersion of crops and things youre able to cook and the many incredients then stuff with firewood , processing leather and so on

if theyll add*

They should add seasonings and more dishes like soup and salads and stuff

And different seasonings should give you different buffs

[obtuse dew]

Just make it have PvP and it's a good game 🤷‍♂️

[winged dome]

Part of me hopes yes if it's actually interesting or makes sense. Maybe a way to 'compress' materials into high density storage to save inventory space

[winged dome]

What makes you think it doesn't?

[obtuse dew]

Got a feeling it will be hard pve

[torn aspen]

No tek apparently

Pvp is gonna be fun!

[cloud mesa]

Ark 2 PS4?

[split dove]

hahahah no, even if it comes to playstation it's only next gen so only ps5

[winged dome]

Ignore this feeling, Ark2 is going to be PvP

[torn aspen]

With it being unreal engine 5 then probably no

[winged dome]

It's literally been confirmed from initial reveal to be PvP

Why do people keep thinking it's PvE

[torn aspen]

God hoping there’s no host barrier so me and my friend can play freely🙏

[winged dome]

It's comical at this point

[split dove]

bc people don't bother looking up the official info, also it's still just both pvp and pve and i hope it isn't as pvp focused as Ark 1, i like that they're trying to give both modes equal attention instead of favoring one over another

[worldly garden]

👀

[mint swan]

maybe "craft" resource packs which are like as much as a normal stack of that resource , once you press E on it to use , it gives you that resource , but i dont see how this is of any help other than not having to craft more vaults or big storages... it wont help you craft big blueprints... this idea wont make sense🤔

[timid raptor]

specially when so much % of ark1 is designed as PvP, why would they make ark2 pve only

i ended up switching to pvp because i felt like i was missing so much of the game

so much content is like wtf is point of this in pve?

security cameras to watch pt's fly by?

cruise missiles?

[mint swan]

yep same , at some point i just use the pvp stuff whenever i fight wild dinos just for fun , like c4 and misilles and cluster grenades and so on

[lone dune]

i hope ark 2 brings back the feeling of old ark

[mint swan]

old ark as in when it was very similar to the actual prim + ?

[lone dune]

yeah

[timid raptor]

prim+ was fun

[lone dune]

i want less tek

[timid raptor]

i think thats been confirmed thats the goal though isnt it

that vin 'turned off tek' in the trailer

[lone dune]

more dino warfare and actually being scared in the jungle

[mint swan]

i just feel that its gonna be a mix of far cry primal and conan exiles
far cry because they promised stealth system like mask scent or hide away from their sight... and hiding away from npc sight only makes me think of 2 systems... sneaking in Elder scrolls or fallout and far cry stealth system , all rest of games most npcs already know where u are , like in ark 1 , you can never ever sneak on a dino (a dino thats not distracted by something)

and conan exiles because the promised third person gameplay... it could look like conan exiles , or maybe like the witcher , or very realistic like dark souls

[lone dune]

dude that sounds sick except for third person will it only be third person

[tropic crag]

Well then, I think you'll enjoy the fact that there's literally none usable by players, just environmental tek, confirmed by the devs

[mint swan]

but i think this game is rated for everyone so Only PVP like direct pvp not against a tamed dino , will have souls like difficulty especially if the enemy player is as skilled as yoj

[lone dune]

thats exciting

[mighty lion]

Not officially confirmed yet.

[tropic crag]

Whe

[lavish rain]

Whe

[tropic crag]

It kinda has, though?

[tropic crag]

Also honestly bro what are you on about lol, allllllllll over the place

[mighty lion]

I know about ceds post,but it does kinda seem like there will be some tek dinos for component crafting atleast.

As in the saddles

[tropic crag]

Highly doubt that, in any way, we'll see tek dinos again

We may harvest tek from the environment, like fallen ship parts

[mighty lion]

Yeah. Just dont think its " confirmed" until we see a gameplay trailer or post talking about

[lavish rain]

We play blackjack with aratai

[tropic crag]

Fair enough, I suppose

[blissful perch]

If you count tek scrap as the tek tier sure, but I think tek tier in the ark 1 sense has been repeatedly identified as an ark 1 theme that isn’t coming over to ark 2

[winged dome]

Yeah, I'd imagine probably not too much more than crafting components and not actually its own tier outside of maybe reclaimed scrap fortifications

[timid raptor]

whats the timeline supposed to be in relation to ark1 story

and didnt they just have some xbox conference , iassume nothing said there?

[split dove]

that xbox direct was just for Minecraft legends, Redfall, Forza and Elder scrolls online.
Ark 2 is set some time after the events of Ark Genesis Part 2, not a prequel like some people questionably think 😂 .
In regards to updates we will get more concept art and gameplay tidbits leading up to the gameplay trailer

[winged dome]

My guess is probably 2 years after? Enough time for species from Genesis to spread out a bit and for VinDiago to get new grunts for all the new creatures on Arat

But immediately after the crash is also pretty likely

[bold juniper]

Doesn’t explain Meeks

Meeka

[winged dome]

Midget from Genesis 🤷

Or does she not have an Implant? I forget

[abstract birch]

Could be a clone only adopted as daughter.

[abstract birch]

She has one

[winged dome]

Theory stands 😂

[past wind]

I still doubt the “No tek” declaration will stand for the whole Ark 2 cycle. I mean Jesse and Jeremy already talked about some kind of environmental tek that survivors wouldn’t fully control.

I will wait and see

And I’m not talking about the tek tier, as it is today, being implemented in the new title. I’m talking about some technological structures and machines being implemented.

[tropic crag]

So... not tek? You mean like industrial tier?

[winged dome]

My guess is at best we'll get a convenient all-in-one crafting station kinda like the Replicator towards End Game

But visually like the Fabricator

[untold totem]

more or less just scrap metal from either the drop ship or the ring

[past wind]

We can call it that. But my point is at some point Ark 2 won’t be so “primitive” 🤣

[untold totem]

"primitive" compared to Tek

[past wind]

Primitive is primitive. I believe we will have more modern structures and items that wouldn’t fit in the primitive concept.

Just a guess, of course

[tropic crag]

Well, yeah, they said "primarily primitive" not "only primitive"

[tropic crag]

Sure hope so, that was QoL as hell

[past wind]

There’s that indeed. Good call.

[lavish rain]

The exo mek was the best qol item

[tropic crag]

I would imagine we'll see like, the very start of industrial tier base game, perhaps. Like a fabricator-esque structure and some basic machined items (better pick/hatchet, better farming tools maybe, proper metal irrigation, etc.)

Probably not metal tier structures, per se, but at least some QoL items

[past wind]

I wouldn’t exclude anything actually 🤣 I’ve seen them changing their mind before. But I really hope the too op stuff will be gone for good: like hovers, tek suits, transmitters, cryos etc

Tek generators, tek lights, tek gates etc are ok to me

They will probably rename them and implement

[tropic crag]

We won't see tek tier, on that I am almost 100% sure

Who says we'll even get generators?

Or powered things at all

[past wind]

Aren’t we just guessing here?

I guess we will have technological stuff. Official info and based on trailers, the game will be primitive

[hearty sleet]

guys there is any official ark 2 release date?

[tropic crag]

That's another drink, fellas

[lavish rain]

Take a shot everytime someone say somthing stupid in ark 2 chat

You'll die of alcohol poisioning

[split dove]

i'm gonna be almost fatally wasted at this point 🍺 🤮

[lavish rain]

I've seen better days

That's another sip of beer

[winged dome]

We're all Calicotherium at this point

[mighty lion]

At this the only thing I hope for are more concepts during the crunch. Though they'll probably just show us a ptera and the plant lizard next

[uncut cypress]

ARK 2 is available in a PS4?

[mighty lion]

Never will be

PS5 and above, eventually

[split dove]

might be 1 concept art every month with a tidbit inbetween, so my guess if that happens is every 2 weeks we might get something new

[mint swan]

I wonder if they’ll not make the mistake of adding the tether thing. I know it makes performance better and all but it sucks sm

[noble pine]

I'll miss Cryos

[mighty lion]

I'd be ok with this

[split dove]

i'm basing it off the image file from the concept arts bc they include ...monthly.... in them, but iirc that also was with the anky and we got nothing in December 😅

[untold ingot]

If nondedicated servers are a thing, then yes there will be a tether

[mint swan]

Dammit

I hate it sm, I’ve almost killed my sister so many times because the tether drags the other player around with the host LMAO

[untold ingot]

It's necessary. Withouts it consoles would crash frequently, and lots of pcs would too

[mighty lion]

This is horrific out of context

[mint swan]

Oh god you’re right

I mean in game I swear 💀💀💀

[lavish rain]

Just remove tether and official servers are shut down

[mint swan]

Oh, well I’d rather tether than constant crashing so ig that makes sense

[lavish rain]

Well we have the new tech so tether is no longer needed

[wintry urchin]

My honest reaction

[verbal wind]

i imagine a lot of it would just be 'fixed mesh exploit'. the only time them fixing an exploit has affected me was when they 'fixed' a mesh exploit on extinction and it ended up straight up killing/destroying anyone who set foot on that ramp leading up to the king titan arena

[mint swan]

I think they make it super vague to stop people from trying to replicate it. But why does it matter if it’s already patched lmao

[winged dome]

Because it could bring attention to methods that could lead to more exploits that they want to keep from making common knowledge. Or how they detected exploits in the first place

[verbal wind]

if the fix gets broken again later on, then they just told everyone how to do it

plus letting people know what was fixed and how it was fixed will direct them to how to find other exploits

and i also said what

and that's their choice

[mint swan]

Sometimes I wish they’d focus more on game breaking glitches than exploits tbh

Like the deletion glitch when transferring Dino’s through the obelisk

Rip my favourite argy

[grim kestrel]

I never uploaded items or dinos to an ob, I just kept stuff in my inventory and waited the few minutes for the timer on my cryo from putting up the dino I use to get there.

[mint swan]

Also lost two wyverns to the game refusing to save and then crashing

[mint swan]

That’s definitely a smart but kinda time consuming way to do it lol

[verbal wind]

would you rather lose a few minutes, or lose the dino?

[grim kestrel]

I mean playing Ark official is time consuming so that nothing in comparison and safer. I have only lost items transferring by inventory once in the 100,000 times of transferring.

[mint swan]

I’m just saying doing this every single time, because I used to go across maps often multiple times a day.

Not saying you’re wrong though.
+when that happened I didn’t know that glitch was a thing

[mighty lion]

Cant wait for this weeks crunch to release only for it to tell us SOTF is out.

[verbal wind]

and the flood of people asking about evo boost

[tropic forge]

well its actually we gonna see how much ark1 gonna still have support since this month would be love's event and if they do it they are going back whit their word 100% again

plus we might get a new bone to chew this month

[mint swan]

will xbox and play staton (when/if) it comes out be cross playay

[verbal wind]

probably not

[mint swan]

Do y’all think ark1 will still get updates (other than bug fixes) after ark2 comes out?

[grim kestrel]

Due to timed exclusivity as Kris said unlikely and honestly I'm not sure you would want to especially if you play PvP because that would put you at a huge disadvantage.

We know Win10/Xbox and Steam both release in that timed exclusive together, but where Epic wasn't specifically mentioned but Epic and Steam cross play on Ark 1 so it probably safe to say they're included.

[mint swan]

ok

[grim kestrel]

They might just turn on holiday events as that a simple tuner they can turn on and off for a little while.

[mint swan]

That would make sense. I doubt they’LL gives us anymore Dino’s and maps though

[grim kestrel]

Especially when they said they're gonna have SoTF develop along side Ark 2

I mean not even breeding as a topic, even the amount of time spent building up base, gathering resources, gear, taming.. Exclusivity would make it near impossible for anyone to catch up in a PvP enviroment.

A non-Ark comparison as a concept would be someone trying to get on Madden UT competitively when it hit EA Access 6 months after release lol. Ark would be at least 10x harder than that

btw I'm a PvE player admitting that so it doesn't even effect me 😂

[untold ingot]

Ark2 is advertised as completely crossplay. So xbox, ps, and pc would likely be crossplay

[stray elm]

Playstation 'when' they get it.

[grim kestrel]

It's advertised as cross platform modding not play

[stray elm]

If not by default, most likely the modding community will do that job.

[untold ingot]

I mean, personally I would like to see it entirely crossplay capable

[tropic crag]

I sure wouldn't

[grim kestrel]

"mod.io is a cross-platform UGC solution, supporting 11 game systems and stores. By partnering with mod.io, we are connecting ARK 2 with a complete ecosystem in which mods can exist, be presented, and accessed in-game. We’re excited to see our vision for Mods powered by proven tech, and deliver the best possible experience for players, everywhere they can play ARK 2."

[untold ingot]

It expands the number of people I can play with lol

[tropic crag]

That's not at all how that works

[stray elm]

It is in my schizophrenia/idiotic mindset.

[tropic crag]

For me, it expands the amount of people who are potentially aimbotting or are M&K gods playing with console players 😂

[untold ingot]

Well, easy fix to that is make it melee centered combat lol

[grim kestrel]

soulslike_sub.png

Target-lock, blocks, dodges, combos, staggers, special attacks, emphasizing player-skill-based action.

[tropic crag]

I guess, but there's bound to be ranged play at some point, lol

Would be silly to think there wouldn't

[grim kestrel]

It is melee centered just from the founder note

[split dove]

those bow models from the first trailer are just to troll, if we go with this logic 🤣

anyway, let's hope the animated series isn't on hbo

atleast i got prime video over here, so i wouldn't be mad with Prime

[tropic crag]

Me neither

[grim kestrel]

Do we really want Amazon with an influence over how that goes though

[stray elm]

They did Legends of Vox-Machina well, to be fair.
Cause they allowed the original creators to have their way with it

[split dove]

idc, i just want to watch it without having to use a vpn or having to use a free site just bc the site isn't available in my country

[grim kestrel]

If that the case, no harm no foul let's go with that. 👍

[stray elm]

I think the issue with their recent shows is that they've been getting shitty showrunners.

[tropic crag]

Yeah, speaking of which here's hoping the Fallout show does well, despite Todd having direct influence🤞

As long as Emil doesn't write any episodes though, I think we're good

[tropic forge]

fallout getting show too?

[tropic crag]

It's been getting a show, where you been? Lol

[tropic forge]

watching last of us among other stuff

[stray elm]

To be fair, it's not like they've been marketing it

[tropic crag]

Fair enough, I mean it got a pretty big drop of stuff recently did it not?

[tropic forge]

hell i even know one piece gonna get live action but dint know about fallout, they must work whit wildcard cause i dont know a damn think

[untold ingot]

This seems to be the year for video game shows lol

[tropic crag]

And good ones, at that

[split dove]

now let's hope it's on a good and accessible streaming site that is available world wide 😅

[mighty lion]

Hope it's on crunchyroll

[grim kestrel]

Be better for them to just put it on their YouTube at that point

[mighty lion]

That's seems baseless tbh

[stray elm]

Ah yes, and get pocket change from viewership.

[slate lake]

do we have an estimated price for ark 2 or is it still unknown?

[stray elm]

Unknown, but as of right now probably less then 60$ USD since it'll release in early-access

[slate lake]

Ok thats good

[quasi ledge]

U

[sick vapor]

So Ark 1 being converted to UE5, Ark 2 possibly 2024?

[untold ingot]

I don't think the two are related lol

They wouldn't have delayed the next batch of income to push out a redo of the old one

Doesn't make sense lol

[split dove]

let them believe their own weird conspiracy theories, it's funnier when they think it's real

[mint swan]

we need honey badger in ark 2 : immune to yuti roars and resistant to all effects such as fire or freeze or poison etc

immune to mammoth roars too

[tropic forge]

why not just ask to be immortal, see all problems solve

[tropic crag]

You can buy whole movies on youtube, we've been over this as well lmao

[south lance]

i will do what poor people with an internet connection do worldwide

🏴‍☠️

[mint swan]

which ones? idk any except for ark 👀

[tropic crag]

Read up a little further

[pearl topaz]

.

[ionic meteor]

I'm afraid even rich people around the world wouldn't have much of a choice but to pirate it if it ends up releasing on HBO 😂

besides HBO is in shambles only thing that could perhaps save it is the new slate of DC movies coming

[south lance]

i am clueless as to what happened to hbo

[ionic meteor]

Ever since discovery merged with WB its got into a lot of mess

[south lance]

weird

[split dove]

iirc they also basicly canned all animated shows, but kept that shitshow called Velma on it

[split dove]

''if it ain't watchable without a vpn, it's off to the pirates den''

[tropic crag]

I doubt that that even can, you seen the amount of people upset over James Gunn's "new direction"? The movies are going to be trash without Henry Cavill, 100%

[south lance]

only show ive been waiting on is that 40k show

apparently cavill is acting in it

[tropic crag]

He's producing or something too iirc

Kinda excited just because we love a wholesome nerd king just out there vibing and living his truth, but never been a 40K fan in particular myself. Know that he is, though, pretty big into it as well obviously 😅

[south lance]

40k bops

love it

[ionic meteor]

Yeah I heard many were upset, if thats the case then its doomed for good

Netflix is a good platform y'know to reach your audiences and more

[fallow niche]

Friendly reminder this is Ark 2, not the animated series channel. Please bring it back on topic.

[bright abyss]

[hazy elm]

we need ark 2 more than ever the world is in darkness and only ark 2 can save us

[worldly garden]

Gonna be in darkness for a while then! 🤣

[past wind]

You have a sad life

[noble pine]

Sons of the Forest is going to carry in survival entertainment until Ark 2 comes out

(for me at least)

[grim kestrel]

just call that man out like that 😂

[hazy elm]

Yeah it's pretty sad I have no self worth and live in ark night and day

nothing but darkness

[tropic crag]

Darkness? Imprisoning you? All that you see? Absolute horror?

I had to

[winged dome]

I cannot live, I cannot die

[hazy elm]

such is the life of an ark zombie

[sage owl]

Does anybody have info on ark 2 release date?

[hazy elm]

rumor is june for xbox

[sage owl]

ok

what about pc

release date

[blissful perch]

2023

Anything else you hear is a rumor that’s debatably substantiated. Release is for pc and Xbox. Now if you’ll excuse me 🍺

[lavish rain]

🍹

[winged dome]

🍻

[sage owl]

ok

[worldly garden]

June isn't even rumoured to be the release, that's just the end of the target window that Microsoft has said.

[winged dome]

That's ... what a rumor is

[worldly garden]

My point is people are saying June because Xbox said June but they have never said June.

[hazy elm]

I'm saying June

Pixel hath spoken

[winged dome]

Thus, rumored to be June without any factual confirmation. Aka, a rumor

[covert tapir]

all hail pixel

[worldly garden]

You're not getting what i'm saying but that's fine. It's a moot point anyway.

[hushed otter]

Does Ark 2 have any established story yet?

[lime flicker]

I hope so

[winged dome]

Ark1's story. Aside from that, VinDiago wants to shut down Tek

[mint swan]

Have there been any developments on whether aliens will be in ark2?

[winged dome]

None, aside from confirmation in the reveal trailer

[past wind]

His point is: the rumor is Ark 2 deadline release date is June. Based on the banner we can say it can be released between now and the end of June.

[winged dome]

ok

[clever marsh]

Give us the release date reeee

[past wind]

29 this month

[clever marsh]

Alright Thanks!!! I am hyped

Cant wait for it only 27 days

[potent hull]

we will give you a date give us youre money first lol

[clever marsh]

Yeee

[clever marsh]

was unfunny af btw

[mint swan]

did they hint at or shown any sign that there will be any gameplay trailer before the game release?

[stray elm]

They did state it outright, yes.

[split dove]

Yes
''Since the announcement of ARK 2, we've watched the community's excitement and anticipation rise as we continued to work diligently in the background to define the new survival experience. Despite anticipating our next showing of ARK 2 to be a gameplay showcase, we see the hunger and eagerness for more ARK 2 information, and we get it. We’ve decided to give you a peek behind the curtain and begin showcasing more ARK 2 tidbits regularly as we lead up to the first gameplay trailer. We hope you enjoy these appetizers, and we can’t wait for you to get your hands on the main course''

[mint swan]

when was this? months ago or weeks ago?

[split dove]

2 weeks ago alongside the new concept arts for the brachio and stego

[mint swan]

ohh i see , so in the next 1 or 2 months we should expect a trailer

[split dove]

could be, could be sooner, could be later. but we will get more leading up to it

[mint swan]

the game will be best "playtested" in summer cus kids and summer holiday , if they release it in winter its mostly gonna be exam time and not too many ppl playing a lot

its their choice but the game being released like ark1 , as in they need ppl to play it and find bugs and so on , its best for them to release in summer

im thinking gameplay trailer - april or may and game release in july or august

if we barely get a gameplay trailer in july or august , then def game is coming on christmas lol

[sonic elbow]

Skibidibop

[untold ingot]

Tbh wildcard has a habit of releasing trailers at the same time they release content lol

[ionic meteor]

Yep, animated series trailer came with SOTF, ARK 2 trailer came with the fjordur map

[elfin pumice]

When is ark 2 out on ps5?

Any idea?

[winged dome]

🍻

[verbal wind]

you know exactly as much as we do

[gusty granite]

Probably another two years tbh lol

[untold ingot]

I mean, seeing as we don't even know when it is coming out on xbox and pc, couldnt tell you lol

[mighty lion]

I see more " when out on PS5/will it be on PS4" than people asking when it'll be out period

[winged dome]

That's when drinks make clinks

[mint swan]

H

[wet bridge]

did WC say anything about delays of the release, besides the gameplay? i mean i expect there to be one but just want to know if it's official or sth

still meant to appear this year, no?

[tropic forge]

all we know its on pin of this chat

[stray elm]

From what we know, yes.

[mighty lion]

If it was delayed until after 2023, I'd be surprised if they announced that before september

[worldly garden]

Depends on how many ARK 2 reveals they've got to show us. They said they'll show us them more regularly, so that means they got multiple. They've only shown us stuff once so far. Today's Crunch will be 2 weeks since then, so if they don't have anything today then they could be doing a reveal every month, and if that is what they call regularly then I interpret that as being gameplay quite a bit further out unless they only have 2 reveals to show us.

[rancid harness]

Yeah, when they said regularly I was kind of hoping for weekly, but this 2 week gap is essentially suggesting (to me) that gameplay footage is much farther out than I thought. Especially when @ survivetheark tweeted "the next thing we post related to ark 2 will be gameplay" and then promptly tweeted something that wasn't gameplay :/

[split dove]

only reason they switched it up was bc the community kept crying for more news

[rancid harness]

Which I respect. We're probably more excited than they are at this point. I definitely think they could've pushed back the reveal of ark 2, but at least we aren't in a Metroid Prime 4 scenario.

Pushing it back would've made for less discontent from the fanbase

[hazy elm]

I hope this gets released this year but if not at least we'll have ark1 super ultra remastered edition

with fresh wiped officials and fresh characters

[astral token]

Server saves will carry over and the workshop will be yeeted so...get scammed ig @hazy elm

[hazy elm]

noooooooooo they need to do a full wipe cause people still have bugged blueprints and dna

They tried getting rid of it legit with full wipes of the items but it wasn't effective

besides official pvp will have their dna back up to decent numbers in no time even if full wipe

I like omnis idea legacy old servers, with ultra hd unreal 5 fresh new servers for pvp at least

[astral token]

Do u know Ultra HD means 4K? You're paying for my 4090 👍🏽

Also there will probably be a few new servers to go with the Remaster but not many probably

[hazy elm]

nah man we need a full wipe

it's time it's been years and there are good reasons for it

[astral token]

That's the fun part, nobody cares

[hazy elm]

good that'll make it easier

[astral token]

Good reasons bad reasons fuck all reasons, official have and will suck 👍🏽

That's why you play unofficial or singleplayer

[hazy elm]

pffft unofficial pvp still has cheating too

that issue exists everywhere

[astral token]

Depends on the server & the community

[hazy elm]

The other good reason to do a wipe is content

people might actually log in more for a bit if there are fresh wipes of all official pvp servers esp with a new unreal 5 update

[astral token]

The UE5 update is not a magic fix all 👍🏽

It will make the game look better probably

[south lance]

it wont create lasting change

[astral token]

Y'all are treating the UE5 update like it's a godsend

It really isn't as great as people are making it out to be

[hazy elm]

UE5 update will help the game out as it's a newer engine still in development vs an engine from 2014 or older

The older engine was one of the reasons for the terrible lag in pvp

[astral token]

No?

[south lance]

idk whats changing with the ue5 port

[astral token]

Optimisation will come only if the code is written as such

Just like that UE5 will not improve performance

[hazy elm]

As long as it is optimized around the idea of 1000 turrets shooting in a given area at once

[astral token]

If anything the updated effects will increase GPU load

[hazy elm]

I'll be happy

[south lance]

i mean they did use a modified version of ue4 that likely is limited to some capacity even outside of programming decisions the devs made years ago

but idk if the ue5 port is gonna change this much

[hazy elm]

It will change quite a bit

[astral token]

You're increasingly sounding like an average unaware PvP player, please don't...

[south lance]

wait and see

[hazy elm]

you're talking about a 10 year old engine vs a still in dev one

[astral token]

Unity is 12 years old I think, Subnautica released in 2015 🙂

If you want to look at how good recent UE5 remasters have been look at the Witcher III next gen edition

[hazy elm]

Idk what that has to do with this game but true unity is great for certain projects but would suck for ark

[astral token]

"Beautiful game becomes riddled with multiple game breaking bugs in exchange for good lighting"

[south lance]

ark is already broken tbf

[hazy elm]

I mean that's more a dev issue and cd project red has been very slow to fix things lately

took them a year to fix Cyberpunk or sorry up to 2 years actually

[south lance]

i think most peoples tolerance for bugs is absurdly low outside sandbox communities

[astral token]

Wildcard is not known to fix things super fast either 😀

Unreal Engine 5 is simply like your soil, if I build a thatch hut on it it will be a fucking thatch hut

If I build a mansion on the UE4 soil it will still be a fucking mansion

[south lance]

ik a ton of people that love cyberpunk in spite of the bugs, tho they love games about the future in general

[astral token]

Maybe that thatch hut will be less prone to erosion but does it matter if I get a mansion in exchange?

[hazy elm]

UR5 also has the new pixel rendering called nano which looks great

[south lance]

render changes could be interesting if utilized

[astral token]

Needs to be added manually for every asset and does not work with transparent assets

[hazy elm]

It also might allow them to better deal with meshing in pvp

[astral token]

You're just reciting what every other brainless guy has been chanting since this was announced

[lime flicker]

bruh

[south lance]

i dont think meshing changes here

[astral token]

Please get educated on how game development actually works, atleast somewhat superficially before talking about these things

[south lance]

nanite just changes how things render

[astral token]

I don't want to be rude but frankly I am tired

[hazy elm]

No no the old engine was limiting them a lot

[south lance]

not physical holes in the map

[astral token]

Of people treating UE5 remaster as the next messiah

[astral token]

No bruh don't you know UE5 makes game and finds bugs on your behalf, you leave a giant ass hole UE5 will patch it up with some good looking terrain

[hazy elm]

Now with unreal 5 we will have the answer to our salvation going forward as ur5 ushers in the next greatest ark1 ultra hd animations, rendering, and lighting for orgasmic scenery

[astral token]

Orgasmic scenery

sighs

[lime flicker]

lol

[hazy elm]

Everyone who has played the matrix demo knows ur5 is amazing

even explosions look better

[astral token]

Everyone who has a brain doesn't blindly trust what he's told

[hazy elm]

and it's so realistic it is surreal

and that is coming to ark 1

[south lance]

i think its more useful as a way to get ark1 team trained with ue5 for when they eventually shut down ark1 support and transition to ark2

there isnt any saving ark1 as is with or without ue5

[hazy elm]

no no they need ark 1 to be future proofed

Because ark 2 could fail hard

[south lance]

because a lot of mechanic issues are separate from engine

[astral token]

Exactly what people are failing to understand

[lime flicker]

I hope not

[south lance]

ark2 failing means wc dies imo

[hazy elm]

You guys don't understand people will play ark 1 for years

[south lance]

who cares if you play if you dont pay

[hazy elm]

Everyone here cares

[south lance]

youre not gonna be able to just make 4992 dlcs

[astral token]

No bruh UE5 will come and fix Ankys flying up, as soon as corpse starts ragdolling UE5 will come and using it's omnipotence fix everything

[hazy elm]

otherwise we wouldn't be on a games discord talking about it

[south lance]

everyone here isnt gonna shell out the several million itll take to feed wc employees

not out of the goodness in their hearts

[astral token]

All hail our great lord UE5

[hazy elm]

Actually ur5 will add in new dino ai

[south lance]

no

that doesnt make any sense lol

[lime flicker]

Yeah bro I heard about those auto patch developments UE5 has, amazing !!

[astral token]

UE5 our SAVIOUR 🙏🏽

[hazy elm]

and could fix physics considerably

You guys joke but you'll be back

[south lance]

does ue5 have some sort of insane cpu optimization

[astral token]

Yeah UE5 comes with WorkGPT built in!!!

[hazy elm]

And you will say PIXEL omg you were right lol

unreal 5 is amazing idk what I was saying

[lime flicker]

lol

[astral token]

Yes sure, we will say "PIXEL omg you were right" and then laugh as you get flamed by an angry mob for defending the remaster when something breaks

It's the least we can do before the angry mob finishes you 👍🏽

[hazy elm]

It'll be glorious trust me

[astral token]

Yeah earlier it needed an i5 3rd gen minimum
Now it needs i5 8th gen

[astral token]

So when's my 4090 getting delivered?

You got my shipping post office right I can pick it up from there 😀👍🏽

[hazy elm]

Why do you need some hyped up marketing gpu?

isn't that for 8k?

[grim kestrel]

When you buy it and look at tracking date? 😂

[astral token]

I'll need to look at orgasmic nature in Ultra HD

[ionic meteor]

They need ARK 1 for backup just in case yeah

[astral token]

Like you said

[hazy elm]

exactly and the option to further enhance and improve it

[split dove]

they've become braindead

[astral token]

Ultra HD means 4K in case you didn't know

[astral token]

What I've been trying to say but we should trust him

[hazy elm]

But we definitely need a full official pvp wipe across all servers that are pvp at least

[astral token]

Good luck pushing any fps at 4K without a 4090 💀

[hazy elm]

full database purge

including characters

[grim kestrel]

The only people playing Ark 1 after 2 releases are Xbox One and PS4 forever lol... PS5/Switch for only the duration of timed exclusives

[astral token]

If ARK II is crazy expensive at launch I'll hold off for a few months

[past wind]

It will depend on how the remaster release goes

[worldly garden]

Unlikely. There will be alot still playing ARK 1 regardless of the platform they play on.

[hazy elm]

ark 2 is going to be only primitive tho

it's basically ark souls

[astral token]

❌ doubt

[grim kestrel]

What the you consider expensive? There going to be a standard version that will be either $60 or $70

[hazy elm]

They've said ark 2 is only primitive

[astral token]

Initially sure but it's doubted in the long run

[past wind]

If it’s a success, I don’t doubt Ark 1 might outlive for a couple more years on all platforms

[grim kestrel]

That the best part, no more OP tek

[hazy elm]

ark 1 will be the futuristic version with tek, and ark 2 will be the primitive ark version

[astral token]

How's that compare to ARK I at launch? Idk about USD pricing

[hazy elm]

There will always be something op in pvp

tek or no tek

[south lance]

yeah

[grim kestrel]

No more free taming hovering safely over a giga head

[hazy elm]

Nope just grappling up high to a tree instead

[astral token]

In my region when I bought ARK I (before Gen1) it was ₹1099, so very affordable

[south lance]

i hope the additions like fjordhawk were not seriously considered balance wise because its so bad lol, i hope wc only added it to spite pvp

[astral token]

For comparisons, Monster Hunter costs ₹2,499

Horizon Zero Dawn costs ₹3,299

[south lance]

goes for basically everything theyve added for combat

[hazy elm]

monster hunter does not cost 2 thousand dollars

[south lance]

thats not a dollar

[hazy elm]

you foreigners with your weird punctuation

[grim kestrel]

using your environment to your advantage is not the same

[past wind]

They’ve spent six months, with a small dev staff, to finish ark 1. Don’t expect Ark 1 price for the second title.

[astral token]

I am now thoroughly convinced you're devoid of optic nerves as well 💀👍🏽

[astral token]

If it's around MHW pricing still good

HZD pricing would be pushing it, in that case I'll hold off

[south lance]

EA should be cheap ish

[hazy elm]

Honestly ark 1 was an indie project when it launched as CharlieAlpha said, ark 2 will be prob a full AAA title or close

[astral token]

MHW is AAA and so is HZD

[hazy elm]

ark 1 was god awful in teh beginning

[astral token]

Depends then I guess

[past wind]

I have no idea what will be the price, but, if it’s too expensive, you can always play it through game pass 🤣

[astral token]

Trueee 💀👍🏽

Xbox is like ₹399 a month

[hazy elm]

everyone is asking $70 usd for game now

[lime flicker]

Sigh…..I just wanna play ark 2 🥺

[astral token]

And it's on for sale half the time

So like ₹199 or so 😂

[hazy elm]

$70 usd is the base price normally

[past wind]

Is this Monopoly money?

[astral token]

No it's INR 😂

1$ ≈ ₹80

[past wind]

Let me check exchange rates

[south lance]

damn i thougut conversion was like 1 to 60

[grim kestrel]

I see 2-3 versions of the game getting released more than likely to be honest. That seems to be the standard in the game industry.

Standard version priced at $70 on current gen/PC
Deluxe priced usually around $20-$30 higher
Collection edition which ranges anywhere from $120 and up on average depending on rather or not there real life items in it.

[hazy elm]

yep

[past wind]

5 bucks isn’t much, then

[astral token]

Was in 2018

[hazy elm]

there will likely be an upwards of $200 usd collectors ark 2 version

[astral token]

Anything about ₹3,000 is considered expensive

[south lance]

le inflation

[astral token]

₹1,000 is affordable

Below that is cheap 👍🏽

[hazy elm]

The good news is ark 2 will likely make the more than ark 1 made them for the last 8 years

in a matter of months

[past wind]

That’s 40 dollars, right?

[thick glade]

Pride roles is bad

[astral token]

Pretty much

[grim kestrel]

I can see this, have like miniature version of dinos to be collectables.

[past wind]

Look, I believe Ark 2 price will be around that

[south lance]

US is also richer so a 40 dollar game is about average

[past wind]

But Steam has this regional price thing

[astral token]

Gets adjusted by region 100%

[past wind]

And I think has a nice exchange rate

[astral token]

Looking at price listing now and ARK I was also around $40

When I bought it

[past wind]

Maybe it will cost you 1500 INR

[astral token]

So 1,099

[hazy elm]

you can get ark 1 base game for as low as $5 usd

sometimes free even

[astral token]

Anything below 2,000 instsbuy

[past wind]

Epic doesn’t count

[south lance]

^

[hazy elm]

They gave it away free on steam as well

[south lance]

no mod support 💀 💀 💀 💀

[grim kestrel]

The game came out 5 years ago to so you can't compare the price now to a release product..

[south lance]

steam was a 1 time thing so far

[past wind]

True, I’ve forgotten

[hazy elm]

Ark 1 was released 2015 in june

[past wind]

But well

[grim kestrel]

My point @.@

[past wind]

It was after a lot of years

And just to sell their DLCs

[ionic meteor]

Its also better to work with just one engine with both games aswell

[astral token]

Yeah I'm looking at wayback machine

[past wind]

Don’t expect anything like that when Ark 2 releases

[hazy elm]

I am pretty sure even adjusting for inflation it'll still sell incredibly well in far less time

[past wind]

Unless you plan to wait some years to play it

[astral token]

The benefit is that imagine if someone gifts me a Steam gift card in USD

I get like 2x the value

Easy life hacks 😎

I did that a couple years ago, had my cousin send over a card and paid him in cash when he visited later

[grim kestrel]

realistic I think Ark 1 only gets tunable settings turned on and off for events after Ark 2 releases so UE5 upgrade and whatever happens before release to be honest

[tropic crag]

Being a homophobe is worse, buddy

[hazy elm]

trust me ark 1 in unreal 5 is going to be amazing

it'll be awesome

[past wind]

I don’t know, man. Ark 1 was a huge success, it will be hard to do it again.

[south lance]

ark2 may or may not outshine ark1

[hazy elm]

I think we'll be playing both

[south lance]

itll definitely be a bigger boost in money than any dlc

or port for that matter

[past wind]

It will be a big surprise to me if they do

[south lance]

since its alr on like a gajillion platforms

[hazy elm]

They'll likely keep adding content to ark 1 for awhile if they know what's good for em'

[astral token]

Ratio

[south lance]

or not

[past wind]

BUT game pass does a good job marketing games, so it’s possible

[astral token]

I know it was cringe but I had to adjust

[south lance]

idk how important gamepass is

[grim kestrel]

Just off improved movement, souls-like combat, and 10x manipulative building. I'm uninstalling Ark 1 after Ark 2 releases. The only version of Ark 1 I'll play is SoTF

[hazy elm]

ark 2 just sounds very different from the first game

[south lance]

sotf releasing right when im about to overload on school credits 💀

[grim kestrel]

Problem officer?

That not a bad thing

[past wind]

It’s important in a way we will probably see announcements like “Ark 2 hits 20 million players number”

[hazy elm]

it's not always a good idea to stray too far from a good formula

[south lance]

ark2 please release on a summer 🙏

[hazy elm]

Aka New Coke

[tropic crag]

Very, it's one of the best deals in gaming, and that's coming from someone who hates subscription services with every fiber of his being

[astral token]

You want to heat your room in summer?

[past wind]

It doesn’t mean it sold 20 million copies, but 20 million people tried, because of game pass

[south lance]

noted and noted@past wind @tropic crag

[south lance]

i have adapted

[grim kestrel]

Only people I see having an issue with Ark 2 will be PvP tek using tryhards, I see everyone else adapting nicely.

[astral token]

ARK on UE5 doesn't seem promising but ARK II does

[hazy elm]

We haven't even seen any ark 2 gameplay yet

no idea what it even plays like

[astral token]

It looks promising

[south lance]

tek lovers dont matter

[past wind]

One is a remaster, the other is built from the ground up.

[south lance]

if you make life marginally harder it actually gets easier (enjoyable)

[astral token]

Nobody matters, we're not even spots in the grand scheme of the universe

[grim kestrel]

Wildcard very quickly became similar to Rockstar Games in that regard, as great of a product they have been able to maintain I don't need to see game play personally to know I'm getting it.

[split dove]

same shit but with a different engine and textures. still as bad but a bit prettier

[astral token]

Sometimes I wonder why we live so hard lives

[past wind]

You don’t know me…

[astral token]

Why don't people just let go

[hazy elm]

I let go years ago and live in ark 1

[past wind]

True

[grim kestrel]

I just hope my thylas make it into Ark 2 :3

Thylas are probably my favorite land creature

[past wind]

They are probably the best land creature (excluding shadowmanes, that are too op).

Fast, strong, flexible etc

[grim kestrel]

I just hope they allow them in boss battles this time

[silk grail]

Ark 2 is being delayed for ps5?

[past wind]

What, thylas are blocked?

[past wind]

Ark 2 isn’t even confirmed for ps5

[silk grail]

L

[past wind]

It will be for pc and Xbox only, at least for a while

[grim kestrel]

I heard someone say that in #ark-survival-ascended I only did boss battles on unofficial and assumed from there the owner of that cluster coded it to work similar to how they enable flyers on Gen and Abb

[past wind]

Doesn’t seem accurate to me

Never tried, but makes no sense

The only creatures blocked I know are Carchar, giga and anything larger than that

[grim kestrel]

There a timed exclusive contract for PC and Xbox that what we know.

[winged dome]

Thylas and Megalania are blocked from most boss battles due to their climbing ability

[past wind]

Anyways, when I say they are the best land creature, I’m talking in general. The way boss Arenas were designed in Ark 1, brute force is more important

[past wind]

Didn’t know that 😂

I mean, manas are allowed…

[grim kestrel]

Going in caves with 6 thylas makes for quite a run. Probably one of my most common ways to pass time when waiting in Ark 1 lol

[winged dome]

A lot of power creep creatures are allowed in previously restricted areas. Manas, Gasbags, ect on Aberation, and so on

[grim kestrel]

If I had to say a style of map I absolutely 100% did NOT want to see in Ark 2.. Bury Abb in the deepest hole possible and leave it there. Most hated map I've ever played on.

[astral token]

It was nice knowing you stampede can be heard in the distance 🫡

[grim kestrel]

There a reason Rockdrakes stayed expensive to trade for even in unofficial boosted servers.

There a limited amount of people willing to tolerate Abb

[winged dome]

Which is weird, because whenever people ask what's their favorite map is, Ab is usually top of the list - I love Ab

Sure, it has flaws, but it provides such a unique experience

Natural progression and difficulty curve is just 👌

[grim kestrel]

Every single unofficial cluster I played on that was discord ran, Abb was the first map to be lost because people wouldn't boost the map on Nitrado lol

[winged dome]

Peeps can't live without their fliers and wyverns 😂

[grim kestrel]

Nah flyers were enabled on the ones I played on, the map just sucks for me cause it WAY to jumbled. Get turned around where you are cause it just looks the same.

Takes me 3 hours to transfer off that map after going taming and harvesting only map I have ever consistently got lost on

[winged dome]

3 hours to get to Rockwell's Terminal? Sounds like a skill issue 😬

Surface Obs I can understand, constant Reapers is a pain in the ass

[grim kestrel]

Sounds like a design issue, be staring at map and gps to stay in the right direction, but make sure I still find access up and downs

[winged dome]

I have no issue navigating Ab 🤷
Though I do have very good sense of direction

[bold juniper]

Sounds like a skill issue I’m a dbass and can navigate abb fine

[grim kestrel]

Beside Abb only time I've ever used a GPS was to meet someone for a trade or to tell someone where to meet me. As well as mark my base and outpost locations

But don't take my word for it, everytime I look for servers today.. Tell me why Abb is so great when it and SE are the only two missing 95% of the time

[winged dome]

Feature creep and people wanting instant gratification. Basically no reason to actually play Ab outside of Ascension as all creatures can be gotten elsewhere and easier on the free maps

I play maps for the experience though, which is probably not what the majority of what others do

[grim kestrel]

Sounds like a design issue to me then if the only reason people might go is for an objective. I feel confident in that design not returning if people aren't/can't just enjoy the ambiance of the map.

[winged dome]

Ark definitely has design issues with feature and power creep. Why use like 90% of tames when Shadowmanes do everything better and easier?

[grim kestrel]

I haven't really seen people use Shadowmanes like that, usually more common to see a breed farm of rexes, gigas, and Yutys. I think I've came across more bases with Velos than Shadowmanes

[opaque current]

Ey

Is it true that ps4 players couldnt play ark 2???

[grim kestrel]

I don't like shadowmanes purely out of visuals, it looks like a giant skinned rat in my opinion. Rather tame an R-Thyla

[grim kestrel]

Yes, Ark 2 is a current gen only development. Previous gen will have to settle for UE5 upgrade

[opaque current]

Whats UE5

[grim kestrel]

Unreal Engine 5 which is what Ark 2 going to use. They are going to upgrade Ark 1 with what it can handle in UE5, but it won't use nano nites.

[opaque current]

But can ps4 players players ark 2 then?

[grim kestrel]

no

[winged dome]

Probably not. Last gen console

[opaque current]

Ok😔

[astral token]

PS4 and Old Xbox is out 👍🏽

[grim kestrel]

PS5 won't even get it for a while cause there a timed exclusive contract for PC and Xbox, so the first release will only go to Steam, Epic, Win10/XboxX|S

[astral token]

PC doesn't have things like "exclusives", we don't meddle in the affairs of peasants 😂

We get everything

Sooner or later

[winged dome]

Oh shit, almost forgot - raise em' fellas

🍻

[split dove]

🍺

[lavish rain]

🍺

[grim kestrel]

Series X/S and PC are interchangeable basically with what they can handle. I have both Gaming PC and X/S

[astral token]

🍺

[astral token]

Sure buddy sure 👍🏽 we all know what PC Master Race really is 💀

[grim kestrel]

Yes saying it is master race is dead.

[astral token]

❌ doubt

[grim kestrel]

Only reason to play a game that releases on both current gen and PC is in GTA comparison to get on MP mod like FiveM. Cause standard modding is becoming cross platform. And Ark 2 is just one of the first to take advantage of what going to become standard

[astral token]

I doubt mod.io has servers large enough as Steam

Also mod.io is hardly very good, it's buggy and doesn't work half the time

[grim kestrel]

They're not going to be the only one to be able do mods for console, just the first.

Hence "going to become standard", we're going to get to a point where there not going to be much of a different between PC and consoles at all

[blissful perch]

*AAA. Literally only them

[past wind]

Ark 2 seems to have an AAA budget, so it should be priced accordingly

[blissful perch]

Salty flier reliant people make me smile

[past wind]

But it’s being realeased as an early-access. I doubt they will release it at full price

[blissful perch]

Ab is obsolete, simple as. You can get every tame from that map elsewhere and with no tame/flier restrictions

[winged dome]

I'm guessing $30-40. 50 is a stretch

[past wind]

My guess too.

[blissful perch]

I’ve never seen an EA title above 40$ or so, and those are a massive stretch

That being said I’m not sweating speculation on prices

It’ll be whatever it is, and I’ll consider that price when the game it out and I can actually pay it

Now I would pay an extra $20 for ark 2’s version of Ab in a heartbeat, but that’s another topic lol

[winged dome]

Imo, if the game looks good then I'm probably getting it regardless of price. If it looks bleh then I'll probably wait for a sale while wallowing in sorrow over failed hype

[past wind]

Tbf, it’s not that relevant. It’s more relevant, to me, that the game is good.

So, the gameplay is more relevant to me, than knowing the price range

[winged dome]

Plus, not like I'm actually spending money on it 😂
Made a couple hundred bucks from selling inventory on Steam Market for games I don't play anymore

Wallet funds to last me a few years

[grim kestrel]

I think there a better chance at comparing what Ark 2 might cost by looking at Dying Light 2 considering both are made by a similar size company and open world survival game. Only real difference being DL is zombies and co-op not PvP

[blissful perch]

EA = early access

EA is gonna sell at the highest price they can farm people at

[winged dome]

And still have microtransactions

[grim kestrel]

Lol I wouldn't abbrivate EA for early access

[blissful perch]

Everyone does

[grim kestrel]

Not everyone considering it was easy to think you meant EA the company

[past wind]

Not in an ark 2 discussion channel 😂

We’ve been using it for a while here

[grim kestrel]

Because I don't watch 40 people a week talk about other games in this whole server. It not impossible

[winged dome]

Context. EA is probably going to refer to Early Access in a channel dedicated to a game that is going to be released as Early Access

[grim kestrel]

Considering the previous context was comparing if Wildcard was AAA or not with Ark now

Further proves my point

[errant spire]

heres to praying that the ark 2 servers wont have lag

[grim kestrel]

Only way to prevent that on official is if they have found a way to stop giant gates from being used as walls or to stop them from constantly going through open/close animation just because they rendered in because that is what causes lag predominately.

[errant spire]

for the servers i go it is just that theres too many dinos which were transfered from other servers

it sucks

[grim kestrel]

Nah it not really except for maybe space whale or tek bronto thing on gen 2 if there a lot at someone base cause they render a lot.

Space whale aura a lot of animation render to

It mostly giant gates opening and closing evertime they render

[tribal crown]

Hate to be Debbie Downer here, but anyone else concerned that between SotF re-surfacing and this UE 5 update for Ark 1 coming 'sometime' that we might be getting buttered up for another Ark 2 delay?

Don't get me wrong - super hyped that* both those things are happening, but still. The UE upgrade can't be a little body of work

[grim kestrel]

I'd be fine if they did, better to delay it than have another Cyber Punk situation

[tribal crown]

That's fair 🤝
...I suppose they could also just be trying to breathe new life/excitement into the community prior to Ark 2 launch.

[split dove]

it's probably just the remaining Ark 1 team working on it, not really hindering the Ark 2 team normally. it could've been something they wanted to do for a long time already aswell

[grim kestrel]

There only one game that if it releases before being GTA 6 which is some time slated in 2024, but other than that game it pretty safe bet in me putting serious time on Ark 2 when we do get it

[blissful perch]

I wouldn’t say a delay is going to be mentioned until October-November of this year, since WC has carefully stated “2023” as the sole date

[blissful perch]

Acronyms vary by context: if it makes no sense for me to say electronic arts and we were all taking about early access it may be wise to seek clarification

[past wind]

If they are planning to delay again, I bet it will be said no later than June (the Xbox showcase).

[blissful perch]

I’m guessing we’ll hear an update in June, but I’m not so sure we’ll hear a 2024 delay at that time. That’s a six month advance on a delay…which leaves a pretty sizable space for error

[past wind]

Actually I believe Ark will be released by then. Or at least has an actual date. BUT if they have doubts about the 2023 release, they will announce something by then.

[blissful perch]

I’m not so sure. If they were gonna drop it in June they’d say as much imo

[past wind]

But, for real, it’s an early access, why wouldn’t they release this year?

[blissful perch]

Hire me at WC and I’d know

[past wind]

My point is, they might release it this year no matter what

[blissful perch]

So far everyone I’ve spoken to and read comments from at WC has been rational

[blissful perch]

I’d do that, but I also know exceedingly little about WC’s corporate structure or the dev state of ark 2

[past wind]

True

[lavish rain]

You should seriously consider an NDA

[split dove]

no no, just be a janitor and clean while they're doing game development

you're making it too complex, the more thought out simpler plan will work better

[grim kestrel]

I get PTSD from Cyber Punk release from those last 5 words.

[lavish rain]

I will bet the information on a game of poker

I finally get to use my skills

[grim kestrel]

I want companies to look at that failed release, then take notes from how Rockstar does. Ignore the complaints of it taking extra time to release and do what you need to do to put the game out in a finished state.

GTA V released only on 360 and PS3 and they made 1 billion dollars in just three days of releasing on two consoles

[south lance]

they need a resident biologist for realism

[winged dome]

Still complex
Morph into bird form and fly by their windows repeatedly

[split dove]

the sun is a deadly lazer

[lavish rain]

1 billion?

[winged dome]

O shi-

[grim kestrel]

yes billion with a B

[lavish rain]

In... 3 days

What's their profit now

[grim kestrel]

Yes, they made 815 million on release day

[lavish rain]

Not anymore there's a blanket

[lavish rain]

Sure thing

[grim kestrel]

985 million just in micro-transaction for GTA Online in 2021

[lavish rain]

Wait people still pay for microttansactions in that game

But we are getting off topic

[past wind]

CP wasn’t an early access release. Ark 2 will be, and if you aren’t willing face bugs and all kind of issues, my advice: don’t buy it.

[past wind]

Not all companies can afford 10 years or more developing a game.

[grim kestrel]

But no company can afford to release a game in an incomplete state that it fails. Cyber Punk should be a lesson of that for the entire gaming industry. Nobody suggested work on it for 10 years, but work on it as long as needed.

[past wind]

Again, Ark 2 will be released as an EA title, CP wasn’t. CP was being developed since W3 was released. CD Project messed up big time. It’s not the same situation.

Ark 2 will have plenty of bugs, it will be an EA title.

[grim kestrel]

Early access isn't the concern, announcing a game in Alpha, Beta, Early Access is not the concern at hand. We all know those three phases are the same time just stating the stage of development. Nobody said anything about early access being considered a full release or not.

[blissful perch]

I’d love to work as a speculative biologist with WC but that’s a hellofa pipe dream

[blissful perch]

Like I said, I’d love to participate but I’m just a guy compared to an expert paleontologist or even speculative biologist 😅

[untold totem]

implying they want a thorough spec bio after Gen made the lore bad

they just gonna go "more teeth, more spikes"

[blissful perch]

I mean…speculative biology is foundational to many of ark’s unique creatures

Even obvious chimeras like the shadowmane look to have been carefully designed to be biologically feasible

[untold totem]

it's a play on words of "lion fish", nothing worth spec bio on that

[blissful perch]

Speculative biology doesn’t just include naming convention

[untold totem]

i am talking about creature design

[blissful perch]

It includes things like “how does this animal run? How does it swim? How does it behave?”

Those are all elements of design

[untold totem]

i know but the shadowmane is a bad example

[blissful perch]

I actually think the maewing is the worst example

[untold totem]

both tbh because in lore they are literally man made to suit the needs of the ones who made them

[zenith hemlock]

[blissful perch]

Yea but the lore is kinda not important on that 😅

[untold totem]

the lore IS important if you gonna know the potential of spec evo of said creatures

[blissful perch]

At least not for me. The question is more “is this animal alive? And is it behaving in a way that an animal could or should?

Well hold on: speculative biology is different from evolution

[untold totem]

arent that the same

[blissful perch]

Speculative biology is often just what you’re looking at. Evolution is how you got to the creature you’re looking at.

[untold totem]

even if it's spec bio, the Gen 2 lore stated they are made up regardless

[blissful perch]

Right, so speculative evolution is halted instantly because there IS no evolution. Rockwell just made em

[untold totem]

and the rockwell side blew up but yeee

[blissful perch]

But speculative biology is still valid because rockwell made living breathing animals that behave autonomously in the world

So someone has to figure out how these animals move behave and exist in the world, which requires an understanding of biology if you want it to look feasible and realistic

[untold totem]

Rockwell made his creatures to defend his domain from the ones who tried to stop them, they are a product of creation still

on why they easily tamed by us is again in lore they are genetically engineered (by the source, not rockwell) to be tamed

[blissful perch]

You’re speaking again more about their place on the ship and less about how this animal WORKS

[untold totem]

i am talking about why they behaved that way

[blissful perch]

Real lions don’t swim like a shadowmane. It took speculative biology to figure out how to animate that to appear feasible for a fictional animal to do that

[untold totem]

your answer is already there, you just choose to ignore it 🤷

[untold totem]

ye so does hybriding different species

[blissful perch]

Ok but the hybrid animal is not a lion with fish parts stapled on it. Which is what I’m getting at when I say speculation had to take place

[lavish rain]

How much of a speculative biologist are you

[blissful perch]

Casual hobby? Passion project type deal? It’s not my day job if that’s your question

[untold totem]

tbh i doubt it, after i have seen the "overspikey" stego mckentrosaurus, and "more spikey" Brachi

[blissful perch]

Those animals are likely breathing functional animals in ark 2. Reconstructing extinct animals is itself an exercise in speculative biology

We never saw how these animals behaved, it’s all inference. Arguably it’s easier to work with the fossil record than pure imagination, but it’s the same principle

[untold totem]

despite using Jurassic Park Dilos and Spinos

[blissful perch]

WC used the legwork done by others for some creatures, which makes sense given the speculation done for things like the rex is now ingrained in popular media and is what people expect from these animals

It’s unlikely the rex was a slow cumbersome Godzilla like creature, yet many depictions still use that model

[untold totem]

if you really gonna go full spec evo, those spikes would be a liability for breeding naturally

that is a flaw if ARK 2 decided to "spec evo" midway, after the concepts are done

sure concepts CAN have a chance to change but i feel it's too late for that

[blissful perch]

Many extant animals have odd physical traits that don’t impede as much as you’d think

[past wind]

You said you were concerned that they would release it as early access “no matter what”. There’s nothing they can’t fix during the early access. Just be open minded if you decide to buy it inthat phase.

[untold totem]

if you talk about the hedgehog or porcupine, well... those spikes ain't attached to their skeletons nor too bulky to give way

[blissful perch]

I wish that was true but look at last oasis…you do have the basic gameplay loop set in stone to most consumers when EA comes out

[past wind]

As long WC doesn’t abandon ark 2, there will be hope (atlas was abandoned and see what happened).

I just fail to see what can’t be accomplished while EA is open

[blissful perch]

ATLAS I believe is being actively developed?

[past wind]

Just like last oasis 😂

[blissful perch]

It’s extremely hard to wipe official servers for example. Or radically change mechanics

[lavish rain]

Wait that game still exists?

[untold totem]

*Re-developed

[past wind]

Ark 1 did I believe 2 global wipes. Also a lot of roll backs. It’s harder, but not impossible

[past wind]

Kinda

[blissful perch]

Multiple small wipes while the map was being developed and a couple major global ones…and they were HOTLY contentious

[past wind]

And it worked just fine. Now they are seasoned, they should work more efficiently.

[blissful perch]

Overall for sure it worked well to do that, the flier nerf, etc. But before early access you can do that on a dime with no controversy

[past wind]

I mean, don’t you think Ark 2 began from a better start point when compared to Ark 1 in 2015?

[blissful perch]

I’d say if ark 2 was as the average ignorant chatter says “ark 1 again”, yes

[past wind]

Most of the balancing was probably thought way before the start of the development

[south lance]

how would sauropods mate 🤔

[blissful perch]

But ark 2 is adding a TON of new mechanics and elements that are untested, which themselves could be subject to unforeseen issues ark 1 can’t check for

[south lance]

or gastonia

[lavish rain]

There's a reason they say size matters

[south lance]

😔

how big tho

🤔

[blissful perch]

Supposedly reinforced hips and a dangerous game of “support the giant”

[south lance]

wonder if thats an incentive for females to be larger than males

or at least more robust

[past wind]

True, but they will be working on it for almost 3 years (or more if we consider the work started after extinction). Ark 1 was made in six months.

[blissful perch]

Ark 1 was also released as basically a demo with very few features

Ark 2 having more moving parts means more room for error…even if the time and money budget is way larger

[past wind]

And I had lots of fun since day one 😂

[blissful perch]

I’m sure it’ll be fun either way 😂

[lavish rain]

Reinforced hips 😩

[split dove]

📸 🤨

why do i still even bother with Lotus and his shit

[south lance]

lotus knows the exact number of ark34

[lavish rain]

Because even when I'm intoxicated I make more sense then the average chatter In this channel

[split dove]

can't deny that

[south lance]

god made nonsense for cases like lotus

use it more 🙏

[grim kestrel]

I did not say they would release it as early access "no matter what" that was actually you that said that in the message I replied to you saying they would release it in which you did NOT specify early access or (EA) in that post. If you need a refresher...

CharlieAlpha — Today at 12:34 PM
My point is, they might release it this year no matter what

[mossy spear]

can someone tell me whether the planet ark 2 is based on is the last destination from ark 1

[past wind]

You make more sense intoxicated than sober 🥂

[lavish rain]

Whe

[mossy spear]

and if vin diesel is, you know, the character you play as from ark 1

[blissful perch]

Vin is supposed to be Santiago, a character referred to in the ark 1 explorer notes

[mossy spear]

so what happens to your character after the ending cutscene in genesis2? kinda bummed that they just remove him

[lavish rain]

You make no sense

[past wind]

I didn’t say you said that. What you said is you would be concerned. And there’s no point to be concerned that an early access starts with issues.

[lavish rain]

Dies

[winged dome]

Oh, we clinkin'? Quick, someone ask about Ark release date or if it'll be on PS

🍻

[lavish rain]

🥂

[past wind]

Ark 2 mobile when?

[lavish rain]

Ark alcoholism evolved

[past wind]

Will Ark 2 be only pve?

[lavish rain]

Will ark 2 be a story only game

[mighty lion]

I mean, you arent playing as Santiago in Ark 2

[mossy spear]

arent you?

thank god

[mighty lion]

He is an npc

[lime flicker]

Are there dinosaurs in ark 2??

[winged dome]

Shit, I need a 3 beers emoji

[mint swan]

Nah man, obviously there’s gonna be Pokémon.

[lavish rain]

Will tek be in ark 2

[grim kestrel]

I didn't say I would be concerned about early access release. I said a release as in they released it full price. I never used the words early access

[mighty lion]

Is Ark 2 coming to game cube?

[lime flicker]

lol I always wanted to ride a haunter !

[lavish rain]

Is it coming to Xbox 360

[south lance]

is ark 2 where my dad is

[mossy spear]

i hope there will be some kind of sandbox gamemode and not just running with vin diesel in 3rd person

[past wind]

Forget it, let’s move on 🍻

[mint swan]

Zekrom has really low torpor so watch out

[lavish rain]

Will ark 2 have blackjack

Will ark 2 have gambling

Will ark 2 have women

[south lance]

no women

[lavish rain]

Will ark 2 have Bender from futurama

[south lance]

will ark2 have crack cocaine for an acquaintance of mine

[past wind]

No tek

[mint swan]

Will ark2 have

[past wind]

Mushrooms only

[fallow niche]

No.