ark-2

[abstract birch]

Which does not mean there can't be laser guns that use superquantum gems found on the planet that are not Tek and are a new Tech variation that is named differently

No Tek =/= no Sifi weapons

[south lance]

yes because tek mechanics arent the issue at all, just the fact that the lore says its from element and not something else

[tropic crag]

Just stop responding my guy

Obvious troll is obvious

[stray elm]

When the shit was dedicated to Tek-based technology. I kind of doubt it'll have non-tek based weapons.

[stray elm]

Oshi is either a troll, or single handily one of the biggest morons in this channel.
Which is surprising, since I'm suppose to have that title.
I know I should stop. But everytime they talk, I lose more and more of myself.

[south lance]

guys lets be able to superman fly and shit, except this time its with tekk, not tek, armor and weapons

[mint swan]

^ Thats what im saying

[abstract birch]

Non element based weapons could be non-Tek and still be pretty advanced. Only cause they say no Tek does not mean no advanced weapons.

[mint swan]

Exactly

[south lance]

literally just an aesthetic change

[stray elm]

Unless they think of something new, or fuck off with the lore. They've kind of back themselves in a corner with that point, since the only reason why humanity has laser-based technology was due to tek

[abstract birch]

And no Tek also can only be something for the base game

[abstract birch]

Yeah on earth but no on knows what recources the new "planet" offers. Like in Avatar new recources offer new possibilities.

[south lance]

yeah the new resource is elimint

its not element its completely different bro trust me

[abstract birch]

Like they can add any other recource on the damn "planet" and excuse it with this is something special to it

[stray elm]

Most hardened materials you'd need for a firearm would require smelting, and heavy amounts of it.
How're we going to smelt heavy amounts of metal/alloys when we're stuck in unga-bunga age?

[abstract birch]

We also could smelt metal with a normal forge in Ark one.

[south lance]

you see arat will have giant alien smelters

[winged dome]

The Genesis simulation prepared the survivors for that sort of stuff, the implant teaches you how

[stray elm]

Yep.
Which made 'basic' firearms

[south lance]

its totally not an industrial forge even though it does everything the exact same minus taking alien gas over normal gas

[stray elm]

You needed then polymer and crystals for tek-weapons.

[south lance]

nah we have alien poly and alien crystal

[abstract birch]

And enabled you to make a better smelter later, which all did not even need element at all

[stray elm]

Fair, again though. We don't know how long it'll take to get to that stage, if ever.

[south lance]

its like normal poly and crystal but special to arat

[winged dome]

Alien polymer
Alien Kairuku

[abstract birch]

How long it will take, no one knows, but it might get added later to keep people engaged.

[mint swan]

Based off the trailer i think probability of alien weapons around 55-60%, i think thats the devs vision to take it to next level

[stray elm]

Or due to outrage

[abstract birch]

But if they want to, they have every possibility to add even SiFi- Weapons later in the game, if they do so is still open.

[south lance]

ark2 assets will literally be the exact same as ark1 but with the 'alien' attached to the front of the name

it wont be tek, its alien tek

see its so much different

[covert tapir]

how does the fist fighting trailer give you these chances for alien weapons huh

[mint swan]

even fallout had alien weapons and it worked fine

It adds a new level of depth to the game

[south lance]

yeah we should include power armor into ark2

and nukes

[mint swan]

Cos they have non-human humanoids

[south lance]

and cars even

[tropic crag]

He's a troll, ignore and he goes away

[untold ingot]

Yes because alien weapons == depth lol

[winged dome]

Aratai = Super Mutants, confirmed

[mint swan]

Sure, when you open the opportunity of a new race thats complete fictional, a whole level of lore can be introduced

[stray elm]

The scary part is, he could also generally believe in his own shit.
A troll that's trolling themselves.

[mint swan]

Cowboys vs aliens is a good example if anyone seen that movie

[untold ingot]

Ark2 isn't fallout or cyberpunk lol

[abstract birch]

Actually Ark allways had mutants, considering which abominations you can make with the character generator XD

[mint swan]

exactly

you think its coincidence that you can make such crazy character customizations on ark?

[untold ingot]

If ark2 has mutant people in addition to aratai I am going to be disappointed lol

[mint swan]

Why

[untold ingot]

Yes, I think it's just bad character customization lol

[south lance]

or the literal mutation system

making rainbow rexes 🤢

[stray elm]

How?
It'd be great character creation to have both abominations and normal people.

[mint swan]

But its odd the Ark world is completely fictional with dinosaurs, modern tech weapons, old tech weapons...as soon as we add super mutants somehow things go bad?

[untold ingot]

Because it adds nothing of value to the game, other than a ripoff of other genres of games

[mint swan]

bro u cud say the same thing with the current model

[abstract birch]

What Ark2 actually is anyways

[south lance]

yeah

[mint swan]

Ark is basically horizon right now

[tropic crag]

THEY ARE A TROLL GODDAMN PEOPLE

[abstract birch]

Ark 2 is Avatar/Horizon/JP/ToFattoFurious mix

[covert tapir]

cant we like report him or smth

[mint swan]

so true...

i see super mutant fitting fine, theres no defined timeline on this story

[stray elm]

You can try. But he hasn't broken any rules to my knowledge.

[untold ingot]

Probably because you spend all your time playing halo or fallout lol

Yup, being a troll is not against the rules lol

[stray elm]

Which I feel like it should be, but that's just me.

[mint swan]

I honestly dont see where im trolling

I think u just disagree and thats fine

Im just saying in a game with no defined time period, super mutants / alien life forms are defo possible

[untold ingot]

There is a defined time period lol

[mint swan]

unlike games like cyberpunk, which state the year 2072 but introduce samurai concepts, doesnt make much sense

[covert tapir]

hes been on ark discord for 5 days he doenst know anything lol

[mint swan]

bro theres people who know about ark whos not on discord

[covert tapir]

and you are not one of them babe

[abstract birch]

To be fair, Rockwell is some kind of Super super Mutant XD

[mint swan]

Did you just call me babe

[covert tapir]

yes

[mint swan]

that has to be some rule you broke

[stray elm]

He's more like a bootleg Flood then a bootleg Super Mutant

[lavish rain]

What the hell is going on

[covert tapir]

why xd

[stray elm]

Or more akin to The-Master.

[mint swan]

feel harassed

[stray elm]

'I don't know'

[covert tapir]

kk my bad im sorry

[abstract birch]

Chutulu Monster

[stray elm]

Rockwell is a bootleg Gravemind

[mint swan]

Thats honestly such a good suggestion

[south lance]

you can have aliens that look identical to your fallout mutants without being mutants (formed from genetic damage due to radiation)

thats likely to be a thing anyhow

[mint swan]

They could even add sea voyages, and sea enemies like kraken from sea of thieves

[south lance]

considering how orclike the aratai are portrayed

[mint swan]

possibilities are endless with ark 2

[abstract birch]

But that is actually mutation.

[south lance]

wdym

👍 aight

[lavish rain]

No rushinf

[untold ingot]

Yes they are, so why would we want it to be a fallout ripoff lol

[mint swan]

fallout didnt invent super mutants bro

[covert tapir]

fallout kinda mid anyway

[mint swan]

pretty sure ninja turtles came out before fallout

[south lance]

you can have whatever but in an ark way

[untold ingot]

He fact that fallout didn't make it doesn't make the idea any more interesting

[mint swan]

Fallout made it what u mean

one of most successful games of all time

and i gaurantee super mutants had something to do with it which ark cud explore

[winged dome]

Of all time is a bit of a stretch...

[untold ingot]

So was minecraft. But an ark version of minecraft flopped harder than jello

[stray elm]

Actually, false.
Fallout is nowhere near the biggest grossed game in the world.

[mint swan]

i have the stats bro

[stray elm]

Yeah, I do to.

[winged dome]

My dad works at Nintendo

[stray elm]

Minecraft has a wopping 238,000,000 sales.

[mint swan]

no i mean i have a friend who works in bethesda

he actually pulls real stat from the database

[winged dome]

There it is 😂

[stray elm]

THERE it is!

[mint swan]

seriously i can send u his linkedin

[stray elm]

Of fucking course your friend is going to make the stats look positive, cause it's his fucking job to do so!

[abstract birch]

The older Fallout games were quite successfull at their time.

[stray elm]

I do not give less of a shit what a random IT worker at Bethesda thinks.

[mint swan]

But he has access to DB

[untold ingot]

And?

[mint swan]

which includes sales data

[stray elm]

And?

[covert tapir]

my boi is spreading false information can we report him now

[mint swan]

its actually highest grossing all time no lie

[stray elm]

Yeah, and so does Wikipedia

[winged dome]

And?

[split dove]

And?

[mint swan]

bro u trust wikipedia over the actual worker in bethesda?

[stray elm]

Yes.

Skyrim has beaten every Fallout game

[covert tapir]

wikipedia is more trustful than a random guy in discord lmao

did you know i came from mars

you believe that too?

[untold ingot]

I don't know this worker at Bethesda lol, so I don't take your word that his word is that fallout is the greatest of all time. Because it literally looks like trash lol

[mint swan]

Thats your opinion but the stats dont lie man

Super mutant fanbase is very large

[untold ingot]

You didn't give any stats lol

[covert tapir]

the stats dont lie but you lie about the stats

[mint swan]

ill give u his linkedin profile

has to be dm tho as it may be against rules

[stray elm]

As of 2020, Fallout 4 has reached 13-Million sales.
Still less then Skyrim

[untold ingot]

I don't want his linkedin lol

[winged dome]

Linked In? Nah, bro about to share his Super Mutant OnlyFans

[covert tapir]

even less than mario odyssey

[mint swan]

Listen you are gonna think im stupid when i say this but trust me when i say its true

[covert tapir]

i think that regardless

[stray elm]

Funny how Fallout is suppose to be their highest grossed games, and yet they market the hell out of Skyrim over Fallout 4

Yeah, we all think you're fucking stupid here. So nothing new

[untold ingot]

Listen, that's not how facts work lol. If I have to trust your stats that you haven't said, I just plain won't

[mint swan]

99% of google is propaganda...competitor games trying to post fake stats to claim GOTY title. My firend actually told me fallout 4 outsold elden ring in 2022 (no lie)

[winged dome]

Did your friend at From Software confirm it?

[mint swan]

I can say yes but you'll call me a liar

but yes i do also have connections at fromsoftware

[stray elm]

Can we please ignore him?

Can we actually talk about something fucking useful towards ARK-2?

[untold ingot]

I had doubts that he was trolling, but every message I am becoming more and more convinced of troll lol

[winged dome]

Sorry, bored at work and this is entertaining

[abstract birch]

At least I can claim now getting crazy from Ark discord and not from having to draw stubbles XD

[mint swan]

he actually goes gym same time as me, so i will ask him to send a voicenote as proof tomorrow

will dm if u want...literally not making this up

[tropic crag]

Sadly

[untold ingot]

Even if the claim is true, if I were head of Bethesda and knew that one of my employees was giving confidential info to a rando, I would immediately sack him lol

[covert tapir]

true hes just asking his friend to be fired lmao

[mint swan]

Yeah but hes risking to give us the truth

like edward snowden

[untold ingot]

Don't even know who that is lol

It's still unethical

[lunar finch]

This is an ARK 2 channel, keep it on topic or move to the General chat, folks.

[mint swan]

Sorry yes back to ark 2, super mutant concepts I see working really well

[untold ingot]

Lol, nah

Ark gets is draw from humans playing with dinosaurs, and a little from futuristic tech. There is no reason to toss that in favor of a concept that literally every company uses

[tropic crag]

Bless your soul, you couldn't have come soon enough

[mint swan]

How many companies use super mutants

im talking jacked mutants with striations

[south lance]

super mutants are just a modern form of the orc

[stray elm]

I called her

[south lance]

we basically already have aratai

[stray elm]

I finally snapped and used Dodomail

[south lance]

morphs with larger and bulkier bodies are basically what you want

[lunar finch]

You want super mutants in ARK 2?

[stray elm]

Please, for the love of god no

[split dove]

brute aratai

[south lance]

ya

[stray elm]

We already have the Aratai's, which are super-mutant enough

[tropic crag]

Oh no

It's happening again

The voices

[mint swan]

Yeah i want it, but think its a real possibility based off the trailer. Super mutant and some extra-terrerstial weps

[stray elm]

Bruce, hold me

[split dove]

What is that melody?

[south lance]

why are you obsessed with the super and mutant part specifically

[lunar finch]

I mean I'd be okay with beefing up some of the orc bros.

Having different types.

[south lance]

like what separates a really big aratai from a supermutant from fallout

[mint swan]

idk, something about a jacked superhuman male that gets my blood pumping...and im a dude to

[stray elm]

Like, fair.
But actual fucking super-mutants from Fallout?
Nah

[south lance]

yeah but thats essentially identical to having a buff aratai

[lunar finch]

Well of course not. Lol

[south lance]

or even just finding some space roids and beefing santiago

maybe theres a whole culture to it

[stray elm]

I just want the Aratai's to be tamable.

[mint swan]

yeah but buff aratia doesnt sound very cool...but 100% you add super mutant you attract fallout audience, maybe superhero comicon crowd also

[split dove]

he doesn't need a 12 pack man

[lunar finch]

Recruit the orc bois to do your bidding?

[stray elm]

Yeah!
Like 'I give you food, and work for me'

[south lance]

i remember seeing an episode from primal about some special blood that a bunch of primates drink to get huge for a gladiator esque fight

[split dove]

ah yes slavery

[south lance]

that could work in ark

[stray elm]

Or slavery.
'Can't have human rights if you're not human'

[untold ingot]

How about that crowd stay in fallout, and the super hero crowd stay where ever the f they are, and leave our game to dinosaurs lol

[covert tapir]

im sure a mod will make that possible

[mint swan]

why not bring them together

[stray elm]

Fuck mods.
I want that in the base-game

[south lance]

tbf we do have beer that allows you to survive getting shredded by miniguns

[mint swan]

a combination of great ideas and become one

[untold ingot]

That's like putting Ketchup on ice-cream. Kinda trash lol

[mint swan]

Think about it, why do u think fallout 4 was the most sold game of all time...because they have everything. Mutants, cowboys, futuristic tech, aliens

Ark has that potential

[covert tapir]

we dont want coboys

we want TRIKES

[mint swan]

It would 100%% work

[untold ingot]

Or mutants, or futuristic tech lol

[mint swan]

if we had cowboys in ark

[split dove]

no

[south lance]

keep away the futuristic tech and im fine

[covert tapir]

we had a whip and thats more than plenty

[stray elm]

@lunar finch It started again

[split dove]

again

[mint swan]

Did u enjoy the whip mechanics ?

[twilit sky]

I’m here XD

[mint swan]

I rest my case

[stray elm]

Otter, fucking save us from this hell!

[south lance]

futuristic tech just means futuristic mechanics which means the game has the same garbage end game

[untold ingot]

Save us from the fallout nonsense lol

[twilit sky]

He’s relating it back to ark 2 so

[covert tapir]

oh cmon

[stray elm]

I just wanna see the 'fallout' of this fucking shit go down.

[twilit sky]

Loool

[abstract birch]

Wasn't John in the notes some kind of "cowboy"

[lunar finch]

I mean you can talk about weird stuff from other games that you want in ARK 2, just stop getting into discussion about the other games.

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-cod-call-of-duty-call-of-du-call-of-duty-modern-warfare-ii-simon-ghost-riley-gif-27104686

[abstract birch]

I see you want ghost in Ark 2 XD

[covert tapir]

cant we whistle the mods to attack?

[untold ingot]

I think so

[mint swan]

Thing is with vin diesel playing a major role in ark 2...now you are going to laugh but im being dead serious here....i actually see some fast and furious concepts incorporated in the game.

[twilit sky]

Giant otters in ark 2 for lyfe

[covert tapir]

we need to tame them first i guess

[south lance]

😐

[stray elm]

Okay, hear me out though.
I want permanent warpainting on characters, like dying.
Then we can all be Ghost!

[south lance]

why am i being this charitable

[untold ingot]

Honestly cowboys is suuuuuuuch an overrated concept lol. The actual era lasted like 60 years or less, but it has such a ridiculous cult following

[covert tapir]

attack this target

[mint swan]

maybe drifting with certain dinos or something , not sure

[stray elm]

I just like the outlaw concept.
But yeah, it's fucking overrated.

[covert tapir]

whats so cool about them lol.

uhhh i sit on a horse and i whip people

sounds cringe to be honest

[untold ingot]

There is nothing cool about it lol

[south lance]

shoot the plains people

duel the outlaws for control of a town

because its so gritty but farmer

[abstract birch]

Actually RDR2 was one of the best games I ever played

[winged dome]

Edgy Farmers 😂

[covert tapir]

its more of a western gta than being a cowboy

[untold ingot]

I have heard it was well done, but I don't want it in ark

[abstract birch]

Allways depends on, what you do with the concept you have

[stray elm]

Most likely that they're the last outlaws, which aren't really a thing anymore and are more referred as 'criminals'
Outlaws also u-WAIT a minute, now I'm fucking moving on from ARK-2!

[covert tapir]

uhhh im an outlaw fear me

[stray elm]

Cringe

[covert tapir]

so scary lmao

[south lance]

ark2 could actually implement cowboys exactly analogous to irl cowboys

we just need plains

[mint swan]

So true...same for me

[south lance]

and the eden ring to supply weapons

[abstract birch]

Ark has people from every timeperiod, so you can be whatever you want

[stray elm]

Point isn't to be scary. But the last of actually free people that aren't restricted by laws and society norms.

[mint swan]

now imagine incorporating rdr2 concepts in a prehistoric land but with futuristic weapons...its such an odd idea that it would be insanely in-depth

[covert tapir]

if i put 100 spices on my chicken thats not depth

that tastes horrible

[south lance]

invading foreigners moving westwards to expand their nation off stolen land

[mint swan]

100 of the right spices you will 100% enjoy it

[south lance]

essentially identical circumstance

replace westward with downwards

[mint swan]

yeah but what about like a cowboy npc you speak to in like a safe zone

where no pvp is allowed

and he sells western revolvers which u can hunt dinos with etc

[south lance]

i wish you could kill everything like in irl cowboy times

pve doesnt exist

thatd be so fun

[winged dome]

True PvE
Player Vs Everything

[south lance]

players are a thing after all

[mint swan]

yeah but lets be honest, ark 1 pvp is very unbalanced

only real way to balance it is to have western styled weapons

[untold ingot]

That makes less than 0 sense lol

[mint swan]

It does if you think about it

[south lance]

the west is so epic that specifically its guns are able to balance ark

aks, nah, m16s, yesss

[covert tapir]

which side are you on now huh

[south lance]

im trolling

this convo already went past the point of being useful

[untold ingot]

Ah, yes the classic "I can't explain my reasoning so I have to make the other think they aren't thinking"

[untold ingot]

Yeah, I am having fun though lol

[mint swan]

if u played gta pvp and rdr2 pvp youd know

[untold ingot]

That ark pvp balance comes from western style weapons. The logic of that astounds me

[covert tapir]

im about as pissed as the atari cuase i wanna have a normal talk about ark 2 i guess ill just peek in later

[twilit sky]

[mint swan]

my bad ill go, i honestly was being serious

[south lance]

you can have automatic guns if you want provided all players and dinos in ark wear magic kevlar armor that prevents these guns from being useful

[winged dome]

Let it rip Laser

[mint swan]

good luck all

[untold ingot]

Well, I should probably stop trolling this guy then

[south lance]

its ok oshi youre not the only reason i started trolling

[twilit sky]

Ark 2 isn’t for trolling 😉

[abstract birch]

Ark 2 will have no Otters

[twilit sky]

LIES

😭

[mint swan]

or any channel for that matter

[south lance]

its not trolling, my tactical griefing and psychological warfare actually gets people to make mistakes and help me steal their stuff

[abstract birch]

But if it has none ? What will you do ?

[twilit sky]

Oh it’s fine in general

Sometimes 😂

[mint swan]

xD

[twilit sky]

Riot ofc lol

Start a petition to add them to ark 2

[abstract birch]

Torches and Pitchforks in front of WC HQ XD

[untold ingot]

I'll mod them in if they aren't in lol

[sullen mango]

sadly it probably wont

i think there is better shoulder pets tbh

but there 3rdish best

[mighty lion]

That's a high estimate. People just think they're cute

[untold ingot]

Well, considering thst there hasn't been a dlc other than ext that didn't have a new one I would say shoulder let's are likely

[split dove]

aberration was just the shoulder pet dlc, you couldn't do anything without them

[winged dome]

Leaf Lizard is probably a shoulder pet

Maybe helps with camouflage?

[covert tapir]

maybe gives off like a scent cause it mimics a flower?

so we can calm down creatures to enable taming them

[untold ingot]

Or it's just herbivore kibble

[south lance]

leaf lizard is the autowhip

graps shit for ya

[fallow niche]

Someone say plant dino

[mortal kestrel]

apparently we have a tek saddles leaked for arkII

well, tek scrap anyway

[winged dome]

Ayyy Leaf Lizard

[stray elm]

Yeah, a modeling studio that a lot of big AAA companies go to accidently leaked the rex saddles

[iron sequoia]

Salad

[fallow niche]

[mortal kestrel]

[iron sequoia]

[winged dome]

What's the chances of those flowers smelling horrible since they're adapted to Aratai life?

[stray elm]

You mean Arat?

Aratai's are a species.

[winged dome]

🤔
If it was on Mars, then those plants would be adapted to Martian life, right? How is Aratai life different?

[south lance]

i mean aratai could probably also be an adjective

[stray elm]

Cause again, one is the name of a species and one is the name of a planet.
And we kind of don't know who named who first.

Also, Martians would be designated a legit name then 'Martians' if we theoretically had any.

[split dove]

☕

[winged dome]

Yeah, that's how I see it. Anything on Arat is technically Aratai

[split dove]

but are the leaf lizards the Aratai?

[winged dome]

Deep questions

🤔
Is making a spear with an alien rock and an alien stick technically alien technology?

[stray elm]

If it's human made? Then technically no.

[winged dome]

Oh, good point

[stray elm]

Cause this'd would mean Tek is alien-technology then.
Which isn't 'wrong' but it isn't 'right' at the same time.

[split dove]

''well yes, but actually no''

[mighty lion]

I mean if an alien displayed a new type of weapon and a human made it after, it would still be alien technology or atleast alien origin

[astral token]

We're the aliens

[mint swan]

i think everything we can steal from the aratai dudes would be alien technology 🤔

[mint swan]

Ive been saying that for ages bro

[astral token]

No, I think we're the aliens, invading their home

[tropic crag]

I was always under the impression that something like the Mars/Martian thing was either unique on a per-name basis or always ended with the "-an" suffix. So, for example, for people of Earth, it would either be Earthlings or Terrans. Typically though in most sci-fi culture, it tends to end with the -an suffix (Vulkans, Delvians, Deltans, Denebians, etc.)

[jaunty turret]

multiple?

[blissful perch]

I’d argue no. We use iridium, commonly found from space debris, in our technology and don’t call it alien technology

Technology is better described as a specific way to use/alter materials. Element would be the alien material and tek is earth technology that uses it

[verbal wind]

it's only alien if another alien species came up with it

[blissful perch]

Now what if humans on another planet come up with something?

I’d argue that’s alien tech in some way too

[astral token]

Isn’t if they’re Homo sapiens

This is such an unreal topic we don’t have peer reviewed papers to fall back on 😦

[blissful perch]

Earth animals can make tech so I doubt that

[pearl tangle]

[rancid harness]

🔥🌋🔥

[lavish rain]

What the hell

[covert tapir]

what are some taming methods you guys would like to see

[mint swan]

Honestly i rewatched the trailer again today

now this may sound silly but im upping the probability of aliens from 55-60% to almost 65-70% chance of happening

Its just inevitable with this new race being introduced

Most likely energy type weapons like lasers or something, which im really looking forward to

[split dove]

yh a primitive alien race using spears, daggers and clubs is definitely gonna have alien weapons. the most you will get is non functional tek

[mint swan]

Well similar to human they may have various levels of that enemy type

so the low level ones only hold the spears, the high ones like a gattlng laser or something along those ines

[split dove]

i'm no longer taking anyone in this chat serious

[stray elm]

Flobs, this fucking man is a natural troll or idiot.
Just stop talking to them.

[split dove]

a baboon

[tropic forge]

guess some ppl miss the mothership whit the doom beam it was 0.2 sec flash but its on the trailer

[split dove]

if the humans can only use tek as tek scrap, what do you expect the Aratai to do with something they know nothing about? at least the humans kinda knew how tek worked compared to the Aratai, for them it's very alien and i doubt they will ever figure it how it works, let alone activate it

[compact comet]

Who else is excited for ark 2?

[stray elm]

I'm not excited about anything until we see gameplay.

[compact comet]

I won’t be surprised

[mighty lion]

Hope they make some deep new lore about the aratai and arat itself. With some mysteries.

[tropic forge]

aratai gives vibes of caveman from trailer but that could be a scout party and there's more to than that we realise

[mighty lion]

It could be that they are regionally segmented some more advanced than others.

[tropic forge]

that too

[split dove]

we're basing this on the ones we've seen so far, could be that they're a outcast tribe due to being too violent or extreme for their standards. but if the aratai in harder regions are more advanced it would kinda make sense

[mint swan]

Yeah very possible

or maybe they didnt actually exist in planet earth, maybe originally from another planet who was doing research on earth but their ships had to flee unexpectedly

leaving some high tech alien technology behind

[tropic forge]

it would be cool if they would behave like avatar tribes, a tribe thats focus whit flying dinos other tribe would be focus on ocean and so on, i could see that making difficult regions of the map

[lime flicker]

I’m already hyped up for ark2

clicks preorder button

[lament thunder]

Preordering before gameplay 😮

[thick moat]

Based

[static edge]

im hyped for ark 2 but its sad because its gonna be next gen only 😦

[split dove]

gaming evolves, and not every game can be supported on the previous gen. and it would hold back ark 2 more than consoles did for Ark 1. we can all agree we want Ark 2 to be the best it can be right? having to develop it to be playable on old consoles will hold it's potential back compared to only going for the more powerful next gen

[mighty lion]

Is there even a legit preorder?

Ngl I've been waiting to buy the new xbox until Ark 2 comes out

[split dove]

nope

but sadly some people will fall for fake ones

[mighty lion]

Yeah

Hope they have separate editions for preorder when its official

[split dove]

please elaborate, i don't keep track of preorder variations

[mighty lion]

Like most preorders have 1 to 3 editions. The first being the base game with potential preorder bonus. The second being the base game plus some bonus content and bonus. And the third tier being everything included in the other plus season pass and additional bonus.

[tropic forge]

60 ark 2 standard, 80 ark2 deluxe comes whit season pass, 120 ark 2 comes whit season pass + little dino plant toy

[mighty lion]

Bonus range from custom skins to real life souvenirs

^ what they said

[split dove]

ah i see

[tropic forge]

150 ark2 + season pass + little dino plant toy + concept art book

[mighty lion]

Would buy it in a heart beat

[tropic forge]

now change those prices to the actual market

[split dove]

A small price to pay for salvation

[mighty lion]

I'd love to see a lore book

[split dove]

it's just a book filled with pictures of santiago while he's grunting around dinos

[tropic forge]

80 ark 2 standard,120 ark2 deluxe comes whit season pass, 180 ark 2 comes whit season pass + little dino plant toy 220 ark2 + season pass + little dino plant toy + concept art book

those are newest releases prices 🤣

[mighty lion]

Yeah, didnt xbox just up their console exclusive prices to match ps?

[tropic forge]

not sure but forspoken was what come to my mind

80 standard 104 deluxe 🤣

[tropic crag]

Forspoken was a great game, if you were looking for a 20 dollar game disguised as a 70 dollar one 😅

[tropic forge]

what a crappy game, fight alone sucks big time and conversations ufff

[harsh spear]

the fact that they are trying to convert ark 1 to unreal engine 5 tells me that they are just gonna go copy pasta as they did with atlas

[tropic forge]

thats my fear and really hope they aint stupid on doing that, ppl being forgiven whit ark1 whit the story it was the first game and core code was broken i dont see that kind of forgiving again if ark2 become the same mess is ark1

[verbal wind]

changing to ue5 would fix a lot of issues

like the game files being bloated to all hell and back

[small token]

hi

i cant get confirm email ,where should i report this

[tropic crag]

What did they even copy and pasta with Atlas? It's not even been ported to UE5 yet, lol

[untold ingot]

I don't know how changing Ue4 to Ue5 will fix the file size lol

[harsh spear]

u could see that the ARK-menu was in the game with a controller trick. so this means they basically took ARK and reskined it into Atlas

[tropic crag]

People are expecting (falsely) that they're going to rebuild the entire game from the ground up, but in UE5, most likely 🤣

[verbal wind]

from what i heard it helps streamline the files

[untold ingot]

Streamline doesn't get rid of filesize

[tropic crag]

That has nothing to do with upgrading to UE5, your point makes no sense

[harsh spear]

well they have to at least make a new player-control system because the one from ark 1 is very outdated

[untold ingot]

I don't think Ue5 will have any change with the game file size. It might actually make it worse

[harsh spear]

like u are instantly 100% movespeed ( no momentum ) and you cant climb rocks as you can in conan exiles for example

[tropic crag]

Eh, it would make sense if it made the size a smidge smaller, if only via cutting down on the necessary files that would be reduced via Nanite

[verbal wind]

i'd like to have a toggle walk like in conan

[tropic crag]

Don't need 7 different LODs for things with Nanite

[untold ingot]

I don't think that'll change

[split dove]

it will only change in Ark 2

[untold ingot]

That'll be more work than a simple port which is what I am expecting

[harsh spear]

i dont see why you would make a new Ark without changing some core elements. I dont need another reskin of ARK. If i would, id play Atlas.

[untold ingot]

Ark1 upgrade to Ue5 is not a new ark lol, it's a remaster

Ark2 is a new game with new mechanics

[harsh spear]

im talking about Ark 2

[split dove]

have you even looked at the Ark 2 steam page? also the Ark 1 in UE5 will be a free update, it won't be 2 different Ark 1's

[untold ingot]

Did they confirm that bit?

[thick moat]

ue5 update is a recode in a way, it takes the switch code for the base of it

[past wind]

yes

[thick moat]

so it may compress size

[past wind]

Jeremy did confirm it will be a free update

[tropic crag]

Who said that?

[thick moat]

jeremy

[untold ingot]

It'll be free yeah, but will it replace Ue4 ark?

[split dove]

''To clarify: the UE5 tease a couple weeks back is referring to in-the-works complete free upgrade/remaster of ARK Survival Evolved in UnrealEngine5. Not a cinematic. We havent officially announced the ARK UE5 upgrade yet 'cause there's other major things we wanna show then as well''

[harsh spear]

you literally asked what makes me think they did copy pasta and i answered

[thick moat]

he says upgrade not update so we don't know :c

[untold ingot]

My experience with ports usually turns into bloated filesizes. Maybe they have a better approach though

[thick moat]

yeah but with the switch code being updated already to ue4.27 it maybe makes it smaller or stays the same

ark switch being rebuilt from the ground up is a godsent basically xd

[past wind]

To clarify: the UE5 tease a couple weeks back is referring to in-the-works complete free upgrade/remaster of ARK Survival Evolved in UnrealEngine5. Not a cinematic. We havent officially announced the ARK UE5 upgrade yet 'cause there's other major things we wanna show then as well

[harsh spear]

but i dont get why they make ARK 2 whilst upgrade ARK 1 to UE5 . Why make ARK 2 then in the first place

[past wind]

Not sure if its replacing the current build, but I believe it will because he said it wipes won't be needed, meaning the servers will be upgraded

[thick moat]

we'll see in the next few weeks

[past wind]

Jeremy also: Save data will carry-over, no wipes will be required. @untold ingot

[thick moat]

it may be a delay or it has been a long time coming for them and has got to do something with ark 2 @harsh spear

[stone gust]

Maybe UE5 update will make PC Gen2 servers stop crashing all the damn time

[split dove]

don't play official then

[past wind]

Ark 1 update seems to be a new development, I don't think it was on the plans since the beginning, like the Scorched Ascension

[thick moat]

at least in my opinion

[past wind]

Man, unnos crash more often than offis 😂

[harsh spear]

what a great tip. dont play on servers that you are supposed to play on lol. they really need to up their game with servers cuz im definetly not playing on admin abuse servers that might get deleted at any point

[untold ingot]

I have actually never seen any legitimate case of admin abuse on official lol, and I spent most of my time there

[thick moat]

"dont play on servers you are supposed to play on" a quote of the times lmfao

[thick moat]

I saw some people talk about pocket devs but nothing confirmed

[tropic crag]

Maybe the ones you play on, mine have almost never crashed, especially the Gen 2 ones

[untold ingot]

They say a lot of things. I have never seen an actual "pocket dev"

[thick moat]

yep

[harsh spear]

yea because admin abuse happens on unofficial and not official

[untold ingot]

Usually it's a hacker

[tropic crag]

Oh wow, he blocked me LMAO

[tropic crag]

🤣

Still react to you message there, bud

Just takes longer

[untold ingot]

It's tempting lol 🤣🤣🤣

[tropic crag]

But the whole pocket dev thing is real, Snail Games were caught red-handed blackmailing GMs and the like for cheats

[fallow niche]

Can probably make sure to keep this back on topic

[verbal wind]

so how much of santiago do you expect to see?

actual in game npc or just cutscene bait?

[fallow niche]

Cutscene

[past wind]

Nice, but it's not my experience with unnos. Also, it will depend on the number of maps on the cluster, the average number of players on the map, mods, plugins a rates. Higher rates + plugins + mods will make Ark crash more. Add to that the events + the rest.

[past wind]

NPC

[tropic crag]

It's already been stated he will appear as an NPC

[thick moat]

not a lot, i think story will be on the side, and we'll appear after most of the things on the story happened with all the ingame storytelling (kinda like ark1)

[tropic crag]

I swear, it's like no one reads the Steam page 😅

[verbal wind]

i didn't, no

[thick moat]

i dont remember it saying explicitly that he was an NPC

[past wind]

Main story of ark: Survive
Side quests: Oh, there's this lore thing here

[thick moat]

ok "team up with legendary heroes"

[past wind]

I think he's talking about the "heroes" thing on steam

[split dove]

even after 7 months

[thick moat]

I forgor about that part

I swear I read it like a lot of times and I still forget some parts xd

[past wind]

quite expected LOL

[verbal wind]

and npc could mean you meet him once in the tutorial

[thick moat]

i think it will be like this for sure

i don't really like it that way though I hope it surprises me and I actually end up likin it

[past wind]

If you are expecting a super elaborated story, you might get disappointed

I think it will be more interactive than ark 1 (ark 1 was basically cutscenes), but not so much more than that

[thick moat]

no, im expecting environment storytelling

[untold ingot]

I don't want a story, so

[past wind]

I think that's possible

[thick moat]

which they mentioned in the dev note

i really love that

[untold ingot]

Lore is fine I just don't 2ant a story lol

[past wind]

I guess it will be optional, at least that's what I want

[thick moat]

like in ark1 the notes literally make no sense, why tf would they put notes up on heckin walls lmao

[past wind]

I mean, I've playing on 100s of servers since 2015. I don't want to have to walk the whole story again every time I change servers

[past wind]

why not?

they should be "hidden"

[thick moat]

im referring to some special notes on abb XD

they are in unreachable places

they don't tell u much about the story when u see a ruin

[past wind]

In that case, that's stupid LOL

[thick moat]

other than scorched

[stray elm]

Aberration does that slightly.

[thick moat]

kinda with the portals

[tropic crag]

Which ones? I've got them all...

[stray elm]

The portal is the rusty remnants of a device the tek-tribe made. And you can find their city they lived in all rusted

[split dove]

same

[thick moat]

unreachable in a lore way, like why would the characters go there and put a note

[stray elm]

I think the one that's in the portal, that's like 'all' the way near the ceiling.

[past wind]

It's not real life, man LOL

it's an "Ark"

[split dove]

Helena dues really trolling with those abb notes lol, just putting them on the ceiling lol

[tropic crag]

They are all possible to get to, and they probably reached them the same way we do

Besides the Helena Deus notes, of course

[stray elm]

To be fair, if you're able to reach them. So could they.

[thick moat]

my point is that i hope in ark 2 the environmental storytelling makes sense

[tropic crag]

Those came after

[past wind]

I'm not so sure they will do it, but who knows

[thick moat]

i just used the notes as an example that it didnt really bring anything to the story

the ruins on the island came to mind

[stray elm]

You're comparing an old ass map that was their first attempt for storytelling to ARK-2?

[thick moat]

but yeah it isn't so bad seeing scorched abb and ext I guess

[past wind]

They have limited resources, I don't think they are willing to spend much on the lore

[thick moat]

vindiago is there

i don't think they have limited resources

[thick moat]

fair

[stray elm]

It's also being helped by Grove-Street.
So that's two studios working on ARK-2, and a big league actor that could support some ideas within ARK-2.

[past wind]

I remember watching the streams from the guys developing Ragnarok, it takes a lot of time to place things

[stray elm]

Yep.
A long time for a 'single' person.
There's usually like 10-20 people working on a map at a time

[past wind]

But he wasn't working alone...

[stray elm]

Who else was there helping with what?

[untold ingot]

The quality of later maps is waaaay more than rag though. So even with 20 people it's still really slow

[past wind]

My point is, they will probably focus on other stuff

[stray elm]

Oh, for sure.

[stray elm]

Sure, sure.
But it's also one of those situations of 'if we have the spare-time to do this. Then why not?'

[untold ingot]

The pine forests on gen2 are something else. They are pretty spot on. Just kind of ruined by the giant spaceship lol

[past wind]

Sure, not an issue for me. As long the story is optional.

[stray elm]

Pretty sure that was the point.

[untold ingot]

Yeah, it just sucks that the most natural visually amazing map was a spaceship lol

[stray elm]

I'm 99% sure the story will always be optional.
Arguably, the story of Genesis 1-2 are optional.

[stray elm]

Would that be any different on a space-station?

[split dove]

still optional, just more expanded on compared to the previous maps

[untold ingot]

Good point

[thick moat]

it's on their list to do environmental storytelling too

dev note tells us a lot about the game

[past wind]

If they do like gen 2, I will be ok. What would be annoying is super long and repetitive story related actions.

[stray elm]

Was it?

[past wind]

like: go there, fly there, go back there etc

[thick moat]

even saying indirectly that the player stories will be more important than the main narrative

[split dove]

and during the pax interview they hinted Tek will be used more for enviromental storytelling

[stray elm]

I think what it'll be, is reusing the mission system for actual story-based missions.

[stray elm]

Ahh, I forgor about that.

[thick moat]

the ship is a big part yea

[split dove]

now go try and play ''where's waldo'' with a giant crashed spaceship on a alien planet

won't be that hard 🤣

''With ARK 2, we’re seeking not only to enhance the game’s narrative and world-building, but also retouch and improve on all aspects of what constitutes an ARK game. ''

[untold ingot]

I just want to be able to wander off super far and not see any random metal structures

[past wind]

Hence why I want a super massive planet/map instead of 100s of The Island maps in a cluster

[untold ingot]

Yup

[harsh spear]

id like ARK 2 to be more primitive without turrets and tek

[untold ingot]

With Ue5 they can do it

[untold ingot]

There already won't be tek

[split dove]

seems the steam page is too much work to look at. it's gonna be primarily primitive, and there will 99% not be any functional tek for us to use

[stray elm]

Well, if the new leaks are to be believed and stay in the final-product. It seems like tek-scrap is going to be a thing.

[split dove]

as long as it ain't functioning tek i will take it

[harsh spear]

where does it say that on the steam page

[thick moat]

at the start

[untold ingot]

Seems likely. But I don't want every structure and every saddle and all the armor to look tek

[stray elm]

Nah, give me functional tek then I can watch as the community tears itself apart again.

[untold ingot]

Honestly the biggest beef I have with ark1 is that the only viable structures are metal and tek. It's just not that cool imo

[stray elm]

I do love the way Tek looks, but it does get bland as fuck when everyone uses it.

[past wind]

I don't know, man. That saddle seemed just metal to me. But with spikes.

[untold ingot]

I don't even like how it looks lol

[split dove]

just scrap metal added onto the saddle for more protection

[untold ingot]

Hopefully it is significantly heavier than the other saddle,

[stray elm]

There's a few indents like Tek-structures had on The-Island with the obelisks.
Hard to tell, so it could be metal. But it seems too detailed of shards to be just metal.
Cause I feel like metal shards would be all smooth and ridged, then with indents.

[untold ingot]

Well, if I was trying to make armor that things would bite, I would want to have indents to try and break teeth. But obviously I am no armor expert

[past wind]

after I saw that, my guess is there will be all kinds of saddles for our tames. The rex on the trailer is using a Hide saddle, and the leaked seemed to be the metal saddle.

[stray elm]

There was another leak that showed the leather one.

[split dove]

just metal added onto the already existing leather one

[past wind]

Didnt saw that

[stray elm]

The original tweet showed both the hide/trailer version, and the metal/tek one.

GP covers the full tweet before it got deleted

[past wind]

possible, other materials improving the saddle, would be amazing

[past wind]

just saw the metal one

[split dove]

that's what i'm saying, imo it's just part of the component based crafting

[stray elm]

But there's also leather underneath the metal/tek version, so it could be a addition.
Possibly the component system will be applied to the saddles also

[past wind]

Would make a lot of sense and would be cool as f

[split dove]

''Construct your weapons and tools from a range of distinct modules to customize their look and functionality -- millions of possible combinations enable you to craft your own unique gear! The specific materials you choose will further affect the appearance of your items, with multiple options of resources found in unique regions of the world.''
seems very likely to be the case

[past wind]

Would be nice to go around seeking for new parts and resources

[stray elm]

I also did suggest 'tek-scrap' when Cedric was asking for ideas for ARK-2.
So they either always had that idea, or my small ass somehow made an impact.

[mint swan]

wait will ark 2 be on play station?

[stray elm]

Not on launch

[past wind]

Not confirmed yet

But it will probably be after exclusivity ends

[mint swan]

[mint swan]

and when might that end

[past wind]

we don't know

[thick moat]

if it's similar to ark1 1 year or 2

but it's just speculation

[mint swan]

bru

i hope it’s just speculation

[past wind]

what?

the exclusivity part is official

[mint swan]

wait

[past wind]

the speculation part is when it ends

[mint swan]

i’m just stupid

[split dove]

i mean the hatchet Vindiago had in the first trailers seems to also be tek scrap.
could be planned from the beginning

[stray elm]

Well, there's also the fact that ARK-2 is coming out in early-access. Which Sony only allows like a two year timeline for early-access games on their platform

[stray elm]

Could be, but I need to look at it again since it just looked like metal to me.

[past wind]

Really? I didn't notice.

[split dove]

i doubt if you were to make a hatchet you would just leave like some holes and uneven shapes on the blade. just looks like he put some scrap as the blade tbh, also looks like it has indents on it as well tying it to tek scrap

[harsh spear]

Santiago not Vidiago lol

[past wind]

It looks like the skin we have on ark 1

[thick moat]

Vindiago.

[past wind]

I think it's metal

[harsh spear]

yea

[past wind]

actually both the hatchet and the spear look like the skins we have on Ark 1 😂

[untold ingot]

Um, that's because that is what the skins are lol

[split dove]

skins are called Santiagos Axe and spear skins, no wonder it looks identical

[past wind]

Yeah, and they were made of metal

that's my point 😂

[split dove]

normal metal, tek scrap metal or whatever

metal is metal

[past wind]

stone metal is the best

anyways, I've said it here before, I think tek scrap would be cool

just make it super rare and breakable

[harsh spear]

there is gonna be localized weather systems. i think it would be cool if some creatures only appear during heavy rain

[past wind]

I think they've talked about migrations

[stray elm]

They have

[past wind]

So, I'd think creatures appearing on specific conditions/weather/seasons can be a thing

[harsh spear]

thats sick. also it says that leafs react to passing wildlife. i really want to see some footage of that

[past wind]

It's coming soon ™️

[stray elm]

In 12 months!

[harsh spear]

well actually they already had phenix which had a specific weather condition irc

[stray elm]

Yes, but no one tames it due to that fact.

And the fact that they're kind of shit

[harsh spear]

i think noone tames it cuz it dies after a while

[stray elm]

No, they can last forever as every other creature does

[verbal wind]

they eat sulfur iirc

[stray elm]

Yep

[verbal wind]

only managed to ever tame 1 but i was happy to have done it

[untold ingot]

They are sort of cool. But it's just an argy rezkin

[mighty lion]

I mean they are nice for the pearl farm

Love passive farming like that

Hope we see more of it in ark 2

[untold ingot]

Passive farming is okay, but it's a great way to lag a server out lol

[mighty lion]

If you are porting in and out of a gacha farm, sure, but hell the spam outside the base lags out the server worse

[untold ingot]

Worse? I don't think so lol. Passive farming in almost any game can be used to crash it

[mighty lion]

We had to ban people from spawning in main base because they would drop the server. The alternative ( safer) spawn was the gacha farm lol

The gacha spacing limitation most likely helped the loading issues ( as far as the passive farm is concerned)

[elfin pumice]

What if the world is kinda like subnautica, where you find random spaceship debree that you can explore to get specific engrams

Maybe some engrams could require you to find engram parts to unlock them. I would add more engram pieces around the map than how many the actual engram requires

[mighty lion]

That would be cool. The details provided in the pins kinda alludes to unlocks via mission or task

[prisma pike]

Primbox moment?

[mighty lion]

Especially the people with prims

[prisma pike]

I can transfer a cap of stuff and spawn main and the server will be unphased

Everytime a primbox starts DC looping in main I begin to question why I play the game lol

[mighty lion]

Yeah, series x would still cause the server to lag but significantly less

[bold juniper]

Haha pc master race

[sonic elbow]

_ _

[astral token]

Sure

[sonic elbow]

Thank you.

I'm going to do a funny.

[astral token]

U got scammed so hard ofc u had to lmao

[sonic elbow]

¿?

[astral token]

Nothing nothing xD

I saw what u did I have the SS

[stone jolt]

whens this coming out

[astral token]

We don’t know, but likely end of 2023 to 2024

[stone jolt]

bruh

ill be dead by then

[astral token]

It was supposed to be in early 2023

But considering we have seen next to nothing

I have some doubts

[stone jolt]

thats what i like to hear

i dont wanna wait another year ygm

[blissful perch]

It always said “2023” since it was delayed from 2022 😅. Expect a Q4-December release at the soonest tbh

[astral token]

Within 1 year at XBox Games Showcase

[split dove]

that's just a targeted release, doesn't always mean development didn't run into problems during that timeframe after they said it might be ready by then.

[nimble marsh]

Its not worth actually paying attention to the targeted release for wildcard as
A. Name me one time they have actually hit the targeted release
B. I'd rather it takes longer but actually works

[ripe cedar]

Well since that was the target a year ago if we use the pattern from ark 1 dlc then there will be a 3 month delay from whatever the initial target was, this isnt an ark 1 dlc and has been delayed already (kinda)though so anything could happen

[mint swan]

looking at how heavily the creatures will have the ability to smell you, not just like on ARK 1 where its agro range based, im very afraid on how the bosses will be in the endgame lol

[south lance]

theyll probably be soulslike ish

well

idrk, cause bosses are meant to be done on tames, and the bew movement mechanics are for players

[mint swan]

wouldent surprise me if it was souls like

[blissful perch]

The bosses will likely be aggrod to begin with 😅

[south lance]

you might still have a lot of timing to dodge attacks since i imagine they dont want too much lmb spam

[mint swan]

ofc, i was more emplying how they will react and such

[south lance]

but i could easily see an aratai miniboss you fight on foot being soulslike

lets say you have to beat an aratai chieftain in combat to secure loot and you cant just stomp a rex through cause they have more than you

itd be cool if pve remained the dominant force on tbe map even on pvp servers

i dont think anything from my last 3 messages will be likely to exist

[mint swan]

it will most likley, and with they hinted crafting system i wont be looking forward too, PVE will be hard enough lol

[south lance]

i think aratai will just be random spawn packs with some built in fortresses across the map with higher spawn rate

[mint swan]

from what it says on the steam store page the crafting system might be like Dying lights

[south lance]

itd be really hard to actually make pve the dominant force on a map without basically neutering player end game abilities or making a really complicated pve system

[lime flicker]

I’m taking over one of their fortresses and claiming it as my own

[south lance]

its not gonna be too hard

itll be like wiping out artifact caves to build in it

except harder

[lime flicker]

And other people looking to do the same

[south lance]

yeah

[lime flicker]

I’m calling dibs on release day 👀

[south lance]

most likely aratai are basically just a lore mechanic mixed with some decent loot

or maybe not even decent loot

[blissful perch]

Ofc the Aratai areas may be unbuildable

[south lance]

possibly

i dont know if the devs care for that

[lime flicker]

Sky base it is

[south lance]

if sky bases are a thing then the devs are literally just trying to make ark 1 but with better aesthetics

like at that point you may as well just make element 2.0 and the same turret/ explosives mechanics

[lime flicker]

Watch there be electric fences lol

[south lance]

who cares if you made a tweet about it being primitive

chances are, sky quetzals will not be a thing though

[lime flicker]

so I haven’t kept up with the news but I heard the map is a whole planet?

[south lance]

flyers mess up the primitive vibe

well extinction is supposed to be earth

[sonic elbow]

There's no source on that. But there is infact TEK.

[blissful perch]

Fliers can be done tastefully and be primitive

[south lance]

but if you mean like a massive spherical map then probably, no most definitely, no

[lime flicker]

[south lance]

yeah but no quetzals and platforms

and no flyers that have >1 minute stam

[lime flicker]

I hope there is in depth customization and build options like skill trees

[south lance]

even 1 minute is kinda high

1 minute on a pt gets you past render distance, way past

theres already a confirmed component system

[lime flicker]

😭😭

[blissful perch]

I’d be ok with it if sky platforms had a sky floor (similar to wild mosas having a depth ceiling)

[south lance]

confirmed skill tree too

[lime flicker]

I will cry myself to sleep if it is delayed until December

[blissful perch]

Environmental tek is as confirmed as the tek tier is confirmed absent. It’s a good time to love primitive ark

[south lance]

i dont think they should exist at all

[blissful perch]

Expect December

[sonic elbow]

Haven't you seen the news?

[south lance]

they are such a curb stomp on all threats that ive literally had a sky quetz up on 1x thats still around since october

[blissful perch]

Yes I have. The news is that tek isn’t next for ark 🧠

[south lance]

its really dumb

[sonic elbow]

Kekeke
Ignorance is bliss for some

[blissful perch]

That rex saddle being confirmation of the tek tier is as loony a take as the Xbox showcase providing an ark 2 release date

[sonic elbow]

Listen to yourself.

[south lance]

im unsure what you mean by sky floor either, sky bases are meant to be insanely above the land

[lime flicker]

Xbox showcase is in June ?

[sonic elbow]

• Sees Tek Scrap Rex Saddle
• Well no you see uh well see uh well you're wrong because primitive, yes, totally

Come on Shifter

C'monnnnn

[blissful perch]

I was unaware a tek scrap saddle was identical to the tek tier

[sonic elbow]

Identical? Nonono. Not like in ARK 1, no.

[blissful perch]

Given I myself referred constantly to scrap tek idk what the issue is. If anything it confirms my guesses

[sonic elbow]

There's not like, lasers and blasters and jets on it, obviously. But TEK is TEK.

[south lance]

tek is not tek

[blissful perch]

The tek tier of ark 1 is not the same as environmental tek or whatever scrap tek tier is added to ark 2

[sonic elbow]

TEK IS TEK he said, as he slammed his fists on the table

[south lance]

remove your fancy tek abilities and its literally pointless to even consider in the same league as what 99% of people think of as tek

[sonic elbow]

This.

[south lance]

its not just metal but stronger lol

[sonic elbow]

Functional or not, it is TEK.

[south lance]

which is what i imagine tek scrap to be

[sonic elbow]

The funny space material that sends prim players off the edge.

[sonic elbow]

Oh yeah no I totally agree

But Tek is still Tek

[south lance]

if you want sure

[sonic elbow]

And I can't WAIT to see how many people it pisses off

[blissful perch]

Tek scrap should piss off absolutely nobody

[sonic elbow]

Groveling as if Tek wasn't quintessential to the story in any way

[south lance]

people will probably be fine if you dont get to shoot lasers and fly

[blissful perch]

Unless they do something brain dead like add the Jetpack again

[sonic elbow]

ARK 2 DLC, maybe kekeke

I wouldn't be surprised

[south lance]

they can do it if they just want ark1 again

[sonic elbow]

Since when was WC good at keeping promises

It's a possibility

[south lance]

yeah its also possible that wc drops ark2 EA tomorrow

[sonic elbow]

¿?

What's tomorrow?

[south lance]

¿?

the end of january ofc

[astral token]

💀

[south lance]

when all good things happen

[sonic elbow]

_ _

Some sort of event?

[south lance]

yea

the event is called Tuesday

[unborn torrent]

Taco Tuesday to be specific

[blissful perch]

Huge error to add tek to a DLC too tbh

There’s so much good content for a DLC and tek would instantly kill the ark 2 atmosphere

[unborn torrent]

there’s probably only going to be natural tek, nothing the player can use

[sonic elbow]

I wouldn't be surprised
Even if we don't get usable TEK we'll get another TEK DLC to end the story, I guarantee it.

[south lance]

but dont you see shifter, tek is integral to the story

[blissful perch]

Environmental tek is confirmed as of Pax

[sonic elbow]

Or at least an Element DLC.

[blissful perch]

Idc about element, it’s tek tier stuff I’ve got beef with

[sonic elbow]

Yeah, I mean I don't care whether or not we get TEK, so long as there's a cool new tier to replace it.

Cough, Tek Scrap, cough

[unborn torrent]

main story might be about tying up loose ends and finally destroying the last of the element and then we never touch it again

[sonic elbow]

We can't.

It's of alien origin.

[unborn torrent]

the moral of the story boils down to: “Return to Monke”

[sonic elbow]

Pretty much Vindiago.

That looks like his new goal.

Becoming a primitive building channel on YouTube.

[unborn torrent]

building a cool ass underground house with nothing but a stick

[south lance]

chances of ark2 just being the prim game and ark3 is when we get all the lasers and shit because people had their fill of caveman

[blissful perch]

Pretty plausible

[ionic meteor]

Plot twist of ARK 2: Element originated from Arat itself

[sonic elbow]

I can see ARK 3, depending on where the story goes.

[unborn torrent]

now hold your horses there buckaroo, we ain’t getting ark 3 till 2355

[south lance]

ill be alive then

[sonic elbow]

I doubt it, but... I reckon it followed us here somehow.

Element has always been big bad No.1, it's not going anywhere.

And the description of... "shadowy forces" when describing the antagonist?

C'mon.

[unborn torrent]

King Titan and the Dark Revival

[ionic meteor]

I can almost guarantee ARK 2's story will focus on getting rid of traces of element and purifying arat from it

[south lance]

king titan is probably gone

[sonic elbow]

Nah that's impossible.

[blissful perch]

King titan got naynayed

[unborn torrent]

the element willed him into existence, what’s stopping it from happening again?

[south lance]

if we get a new element manifestation for the end game of the ark games itll probably be a whole planet or star consumed by element

[sonic elbow]

In some way shape and form, I guarantee you're right.

[south lance]

in which case it would be pretty handy to have a couple nukes or smthn

[sonic elbow]

We already had that with Extinction.

[south lance]

sure but where else are you gonna go but king titan but bigger

[ionic meteor]

The first teaser gives it off when we see santiago shuts down that genesis screen

[south lance]

we havent really had any psychological realm to do battle in

[blissful perch]

A NEW king titan could appear perhaps, but not the earth one

[south lance]

its all been material

[sonic elbow]

Rockwell 2.0 baby.

[south lance]

maybe that alt reality that homo deus lives in is where we go to cancel element

[blissful perch]

#cancelled

[south lance]

was it an actual alt reality or just the circuitry of the arks

[unborn torrent]

our old survivor just shows up as a homo deus

[visual canopy]

Space king titan

[sonic elbow]

Nah, also impossible.

[south lance]

youre the one who said anything is possible

[sonic elbow]

When

[south lance]

somewhere up there

[sonic elbow]

Gaslighting

[south lance]

gatekeeping

😎

[blissful perch]

I don’t fool too much with guessing lore. Not worth it 😂

It doesn’t predict gameplay, which means I mostly don’t care 😂😂

[south lance]

its like game design discussions but instead of game design its creative writing

[blissful perch]

No hate, but unlike the game design we know almost zilch about the creative writing and have almost no ability to predict it 😅

[south lance]

both are rather unimportant to the actual gameplay tbf

[blissful perch]

…design isn’t important to gameplay?

[south lance]

we dont really have much predictive capabilities so most of the discussions, predicated on mechanics we make assumptions on about how theyll work exactly, are probably pointless

or at least in vain

[blissful perch]

Ah so you’re saying predictions are pointless

[south lance]

yeah

but the thing also applies to assumptions

[blissful perch]

I was worried you had an insane take of design not being responsible for gameplay

[south lance]

oh nah lol

[blissful perch]

You’d have been shamed 😂

[south lance]

i mean i can maybe argue that the story provides a creative guide for what exactly a map will look like but its effects on creature design is probably just aesthetic

you could have your managarmrs pop up on lost island if they wanted to make the story take place on lost island

[blissful perch]

The story will inform the story, of that there’s no question 😂. But the gameplay impacts of the ark story imo are minimal to none

[south lance]

its mainly aesthetic

you could also have a prim tek stryder if you want

i dont know how youd justify its existence but its probably possible

[blissful perch]

Agree with that. Story is a great way to define theme. A derelict enforcer would be the shit

Finally give one of the most tragic ark 1 creatures ever made a chance

[south lance]

im thinking of how youd make it for like, lost island

which is the most prim map by far

besides like scorched and center and rag

[south lance]

true

[blissful perch]

I can’t think of a creature done dirtier

[south lance]

if it were me id just make enforcers drop more electronics

like ovis but for turrets instead of taming

[blissful perch]

What a waste 😂

I’d want enforcers to carry their momentum after a blink better and be more combat capable for their cost

Since they’re an unbreedable raptor basically outside of extinction and they cost way more than their worth 😞

[south lance]

ya true

[covert tapir]

you guys think ark 2 will come out "finished" or like ark 1 where they keep adding stuff every month

[blissful perch]

I don’t think it’ll be like ark 1 EA

I think semi annual content drops are more likely

[mint swan]

Its gonna be shit eitherway

Look at Atlas

Same will be for Ovw 1 and 2, just rebrand for more money

[blissful perch]

Given it’s a new game that isn’t replacing ark 1 it’s instantly better than OW2

[covert tapir]

if you saw the atlas trailer and thought damn this is gonna be good

its your fault

[mint swan]

I played Atlas

[blissful perch]

One could say it’s a skill issue

[covert tapir]

thats even more your fault

it literally took the creatures out of ark and renamed them

its the same creature down to the last detail

[mint swan]

Welp enjoy playing a game you hate

[covert tapir]

i wont hate it wtf xd

[mint swan]

😂

[blissful perch]

Man’s logical leaping putting mana jump height to shame

[covert tapir]

you came into this discord yesterday and only bash the games, why is that? are you that bored kinda sad tbh

[blissful perch]

I’d be mad too if I just found out about ark 2 and only knew the rumors floating around

Since for reasons that elude me the rumors are not just wrong but flat out insane lol

[grim kestrel]

I'm glad Win10 and Xbox play on separate server... So much toxicity in what I have seen from steam tag when I read that Atlas comment

[covert tapir]

either its my english or your english cause idk what you mean xd

[grim kestrel]

Just like you told him, man instantly bashed a game for no reason

[covert tapir]

ohh

but win10 and xbox play on the same servers no?

an ark 2 will be full crossplay anyway or no?

will it be seperated again

[grim kestrel]

Yeah Win10 and Xbox play together on a separate server from steam

Only cross platform announced is for modding, not cross play.

So at this point we can still expect it to be Steam/Epic and Win10/Xbox. Then however long the timed exclusivity the PS5 will release and just be PS5.

Until we hear otherwise anyways

[covert tapir]

ps alwyas doing their own stuff

[grim kestrel]

We also left out Switch, they're also always doing their own stuff lol

Imagine being on Switch looking at this discussion and realizing it took until Ark 2 announcement for you to finally just recently get the DLC maps

[covert tapir]

didnt switch just get ark 1?

think it will be end of 2024 till they get it

[grim kestrel]

Yeah but they only had The Island until recent

[split dove]

a upgraded version of Ark 1. previous switch version was horrible and didn't have the full island

[covert tapir]

they just cut the island in half or what xd

[split dove]

iirc not everything was there yet before the update

[grim kestrel]

Didn't the update just now give them the Tek Cave?

[split dove]

think so

[grim kestrel]

If I played this on the Switch I probably just mute this whole channel, 4 1/2 years to get the full game lol

[fallow niche]

Can probably move non ark 2 content to #ark-survival-ascended or #general.

[mortal kestrel]

to be fair, that was more snail than wildcard

but I doubt arkII will end up anything like atlas

[mighty lion]

Wonder if non- mounted creatures will have fall damage in ark 2

[mortal kestrel]

wildcard did say they were making damage more significant, so its possible

but I'd honestly rather they didnt

[grim kestrel]

I think all non-flyers should have fall damage

[mighty lion]

Would make pit traps more viable

[covert tapir]

im interested to see if we can kill a rex with a raptor if we have the souls fighing system skills

or like can we kill a rex with an anky if we know the movea

moves

[mortal kestrel]

Im going to master arkIIs parkour, I shall be back flipping over rexes soon enough

[covert tapir]

jump on a rex and stab it easy peasy

[mortal kestrel]

I dont see why we wouldnt be able to honestly

[grim kestrel]

I'm pretty sure souls fighting system is for our characters and dinos will each have attacks built for their design.

[mortal kestrel]

even if it is suboptimal, that should be a thing

[covert tapir]

hmmm i really hope each creature gets like 3 attacks maybe?

and actually them having different uses in different scenarios

[mighty lion]

Give it unlockable attacks the more xp it gets

[mortal kestrel]

in terms of our characters, we have a skill tree, and our weapons will each have unique combos through light and heavy attacks, and even special attacks

so lots of potential

[mighty lion]

With a branched skill tree