ark-2

[thick moat]

👏

[rancid harness]

💪

[blissful perch]

Gonna guess any tek (scrap or otherwise) is more about appearance and the resources needed than it is about the old tek tier

[past wind]

📸⏩📨

[rancid harness]

Probably. Given we're crash landing, it'll probably be a fairly common salvage tier, like hide, maybe metal but I doubt it.

[past wind]

Jess and Jeremy have talked about tek being like magic though

[sonic elbow]

It's either Metal Tier (doubt) or just an ARK 2 Tekgram

Or something in between

[past wind]

As I understood it, tek will be there, but we won’t have control over it (no engrams?!).

[split dove]

mostly gonna be part of the open world iirc

[past wind]

Which means it might have salvaged tek at some form

[rancid harness]

The fact that it's on the advertising material tells me scrap is low tier. The crazy weather events will likely tie to a type of material that will be tek-like

[past wind]

I don’t remember him specifically saying that (saying it will be environmental tek)

But it’s possible

They were so vague that everything is possible

[blissful perch]

Part of the open world kinda assumes environmental to a degree

[sonic elbow]

Maybe it can be upgraded, or powered somehow. You have the scrap, and you get a very limited resource (cough Element) to boost its power temporarily.

[past wind]

We all remember the “No Tek” for Ark 2. But they aren’t known for sticking to their promises. 🤣

[rancid harness]

I think that's their end goal, what with full and easy modding support and community participation. They're laying the groundwork for us to develop the best sandbox experience to ever exist I believe.

[blissful perch]

I doubt it. If it’s scrap metal it doesn’t exactly work anymore

[sonic elbow]

That's why I said power up, not activate

[rancid harness]

Anybody could mod tek back in

[blissful perch]

I mean “no tek” meaning no tek tier seems pretty legit at the moment

[past wind]

Sure, but people assumed no tek at all

[blissful perch]

Does running electricity through a sheet of broken up car parts make it stronger?

[rancid harness]

It's not tek if it's metal housing that used to house tek

[past wind]

I think salvaged tek, as long it’s very limited, would be interesting

[blissful perch]

It’s not functioning that’s for sure, and I can’t imagine element of any kind would do squat on broken down and salvaged tek parts. It would basically just be fancy metal

[sonic elbow]

This is a video game with aliens, incestuous dinosaurs and vin diesel, Shifter.

It was a fancy idea that came into my head.

Nothing more.

[blissful perch]

No harm no foul on the fantasy idea, but the appearance of that being a certain conclusion just made no sense to me 😂

[sonic elbow]

Uhhhh idk Element funky

[blissful perch]

I’ll bet lots of money I’ll say that at least once after ark 2 comes out

[sonic elbow]

Yup, Element STAYS baby

[blissful perch]

I don’t want anything to do with tek, but I doubt element or the concept of tek is gonna leave the ark series

[rancid harness]

It's implementation will be completely different in this context.

[untold totem]

What if the "dark forces" they are talking about is actually the common flu

[blissful perch]

Then again my beef with tek is mostly because the wildlife isn’t properly scaled to be tough to fight with tek. Perhaps more dangerous biomes that mandate and create difficulty in tek would change my tune

[past wind]

If it’s very limited and rare, it would be an interesting feature

[blissful perch]

Tek scrap as I’ve called it won’t be anything like the tek tier is my assumption

[past wind]

You get the saddle, than you you get super rare element shards

[blissful perch]

I’m gonna guess players can’t readily interface with element anymore

[past wind]

Why not? Lore related?

[untold totem]

We don't have a confirmation if those scrap Tek are functional anyways

[blissful perch]

If you ever catch me using lore to justify something strike me down where I stand

[rancid harness]

Right, but you know they'll have endgame gear that's at the very least akin to some form of magic, which is what tek presents as.

[past wind]

We don’t, just conjecturing as always 🤣

[sonic elbow]

💀 Bubonic plague

[rancid harness]

We aren't gonna be firing metal arrows at level 100 lol

[blissful perch]

…why on earth would I assume that? There’s no reason to make end game equipment magic or OP

[past wind]

Legit question tho

[sonic elbow]

Actually if any of the Survivors got the flu, the Aratai would probably get wiped out. Same if we got a sickness from them.

[past wind]

Why do you think the above?

[untold totem]

Doubt he is gonna answer that lol

[sonic elbow]

Scientifically speaking, we don't have the antibodies to defend ourselves. Nor do the Aratai.

[blissful perch]

In my head condensed element goes hand in hand with the formal tek tier. It implies a control of element/tek that I think we won’t have in ark 2

[rancid harness]

Because the theme of ark has always been "evolve", "grow" "fantasy" "crazy cool"

Endgame gear will be wild in this game.

[blissful perch]

The theme of ark has not always been about out scaling the environment

[rancid harness]

And I'm not saying it will

[blissful perch]

I beg WC to cap player power levels asap

[rancid harness]

You recognize that right?

[blissful perch]

This implies otherwise 🤷‍♂️

[untold totem]

Before WC ever cared about the lore

It's about "cool rideable creatures"

[past wind]

“After a couple of years, after some stars have fallen from the skies, survivors learned how to use the magical tools from the gods”

[rancid harness]

(but also yes, it has been about outscaling the environment. What do you think riding a giga across the beach is?)

[blissful perch]

Correct. The theme of ark above all else is taming the wildlife

[blissful perch]

That very image is not intrinsic to ark when it came out (the giga didn’t exist, neither did breeding)

[rancid harness]

Fine, ride a rex across the beach

Lol

[blissful perch]

You were vulnerable at all times before breeding in ark. Even a rex rider had to fear getting jumped by an alpha rex

[past wind]

Man, I remember my first Ark day, back in 2015. It was an entirely different game.

[rancid harness]

^

[past wind]

I was afraid of scorpions and snakes.

[blissful perch]

When you couldn’t outscale the environment…good times. RIP that era

Then again cheese was so damn rampant that you may never have known the player power scaling was actually pretty good LOL

[rancid harness]

Looking at the beginning form of a game about adapting and conquering and seeing it as the intended product is a little disingenuous no?

[past wind]

Do you remember titanoboas hiking walls to kill us?

[rancid harness]

Like the true pure form

[past wind]

Passing out with one snake bite

[rancid harness]

I still do this xD

[blissful perch]

The true pure form is about taming wildlife to aid a survivor

[rancid harness]

Then why are there no tame servers

[blissful perch]

In essence that IS evolving survival

[past wind]

I never liked those to be fair

[blissful perch]

You’re asking me why a format requested by the community is being offered?

[past wind]

And they didn’t last long

[blissful perch]

Because it’s a sandbox game and it’s designed to have a modified experience

[tropic crag]

Yeah, and not absolutely dominating and killing everything that so much as breathes at you funny 🤣

(Which is what takes place currently)

[blissful perch]

#sadgamebalancemoment

[past wind]

Early access is when they can test wherever they want

[blissful perch]

Are there current active WC no tame servers? Can’t remember

[tropic crag]

The same reason you could eventually breed, because the players asked for it?

[past wind]

Even though I didn’t like them, it’s important to try everything

[past wind]

No

They didn’t last long

[blissful perch]

Makes sense. Gut the core of the game -> nobody plays 😂

[tropic crag]

Not to my knowledge, but you can make them with a setting, both in SP and just in a hosted server

[rancid harness]

I've been on a few unofficials

[blissful perch]

Unofficial = not part of WC’s intended design

For example if I play primal fear I can’t go and say WC intended for and designed ark around primal fear mechanics 😂

[rancid harness]

They're literally designing Ark 2 to be insanely convenient and easy to mod. If it wasn't their intended design before, it is now.

[tropic crag]

Meh, without unofficial and the ability to change settings that come with the game (intended or not), Ark would be dead as hell

[rancid harness]

Unofficial is where most of their playerbase currently is

[past wind]

Not the point he made though

[blissful perch]

It’s intended to make the experience modified to suit players, of that there’s no question. But that’s not the same as everything a player does to modify the game being official design

[ripe cedar]

Yeah but in terms of balancing the game for base settings it’s not

[past wind]

What he means is: WC will balance it for official standards

[tropic crag]

Well, no duh

[ripe cedar]

But it is a sandbox game, if you want to change how you play it then they try to let you do that as easily as possible

[tropic crag]

But saying that because there's no servers officially run by WC that have the no tame setting on means that the setting doesn't matter or something is a little disingenuous

[past wind]

This why they made the ini files

[blissful perch]

And ultimately the game is designed a certain way, the way presented in official or vanilla play. If people wanna change that, ark allows that (by design). But I can’t stress enough that allowing change doesn’t mean WC thinks every change is something they’d want to do 😂😂

[ripe cedar]

Which ini

[past wind]

You can custom all the server settings

[ripe cedar]

Oh those ones yeah

[past wind]

The ini for the server settings

Like shifter said above, WC didn’t balance the game for the primal fear mod, but the servers can customize the settings to fit it

[tropic crag]

I'm not talking about mods whatsoever, that never factored into my statement

[ripe cedar]

Are there any cut ark 1 features that we know of that would be cool in ark 2?

[past wind]

But the discussion was about mods

[blissful perch]

We don’t know about what’s cut beyond tek and first person atm to my knowledge

[tropic crag]

Since when?

[ripe cedar]

No features that we know almost are in ark 1 because of dev kit most likely but werent

[past wind]

From here

[tropic crag]

Unofficial ≠ mods, lol

[past wind]

Read the rest

Mods were also discussed

[tropic crag]

I did, but that was never my point from the get go is what I'm saying...

[past wind]

Anyways… we can move on 😂

[past wind]

Fair enough

[wind wren]

2023/10/10

[rancid harness]

Guess or leak, and if leak, source?

[split dove]

his source is that he made it the fuck up

[fallow niche]

It's most likely just a guess.

[rancid harness]

Obviously

But I've always an open mind

[elfin pumice]

@split dove can you dm me the screenshot of the rex saddle?

[past wind]

📸⏩📨

[thick moat]

Flobs is the leak man📧

[split dove]

👆 ☕

[rancid harness]

Tea time

[mint swan]

i hope ark 2 has a way to not be 3rd person only or its a no buy for me

[past wind]

There will be: a Mod

[mint swan]

then ill wait for that mod to come out lol

[past wind]

Man, I believe as soon as they release the dev kit, someone will work that.

[mint swan]

i hope so, idk if i have the specs in my PC to play it anyway

can hardly play ARK 1 without 100% gpu load

[past wind]

That’s something we will need to wait

[past wind]

Well, if your GPU is being used 100% in ark 1, that’s not good

What’s your GPU?

[mint swan]

1660 SUPER

[past wind]

I believe you will be fine

[untold ingot]

You could have a bottleneck between gpu and cpu

[past wind]

Won’t run everything at ultra settings, but you will run it

[untold ingot]

But if a 1660 can't run ark2 at all, then a loooot of people won't be getting it lol

[past wind]

He said his GPU is running 100%

[untold ingot]

Yeah that usually means a bottleneck

[mint swan]

maybe my cpu barly even runs when playing on this game its at 15% load but 88-100% on gpu its weird

[past wind]

No, a bottleneck would be if he had low fps and low GPU usage

[untold ingot]

What is the cpu

[mint swan]

cpu is: Ryzen 5 3600

[untold ingot]

Oooor if either the cpu or gpu is doing more than would be expected

[past wind]

Games are meant to use all the GPU power

[past wind]

Not in a game no

[mint swan]

Bottlenecks work both ways....

[past wind]

Because games are designed to use all the GPU power, unless you limit your fps or you have a bottleneck

With his GPU running at 100%, there’s no bottleneck

[mint swan]

Ryzen 5 3600
1660 SUPER
16gb ram

[past wind]

Talking specifically about games here

[mighty lion]

I will say the leaked saddle looks like it has components from different tek creatures

[mint swan]

note even at 100% laod on GPU im not overheating it it sits at 70-77ish C

[untold ingot]

They aren't designed to use all the gpu power though lol. If gpu is running at 100% and cpu is at almost nothing, then there is like a 95% likely hood that there is a bottleneck. It's not super serious though. Just won't be super fast

[past wind]

Gimme gimme 📸 ⏩ 📨

[mint swan]

ya im sadly also running ark on a HDD

🤣

[untold ingot]

Yeah, that makes sense a ryzen 5 is capable of running much higher tier gpu, so it's running faster and the gpu is trying to catch up. It's not a serious issue

[mint swan]

takes like 10mins to load 14 mods lol

[wintry urchin]

God damn just buy an ssd

[noble pine]

Has there been anything said on when we'll get further teasers of Ark 2?

[wintry urchin]

They're cheap af now

[mint swan]

ah np then i might be ok with ark 2

[ripe cedar]

Eventually

Hopefully it will be at least something in every crunch or 2 even if its small

[mint swan]

cheasp as in 100$? that will take me 2 months to save for

[noble pine]

Yeah idc how big of an update they give. I'm just eager for news about it

[wintry urchin]

You can get a 1tb for like 80 bucks

[mint swan]

oh

[wintry urchin]

That's really cheap compared to what they were

For an m.2

[mint swan]

still 2 months saving tho 😦

[split dove]

i got both of my 2 1tb ssds for less than 200

[wintry urchin]

What country are you in?

[mint swan]

US

[wintry urchin]

Are you like 12

[mint swan]

33

[past wind]

They are thought… the gpus are the most powerful piece of hardware we have on our PCs. But sure, whatever

[mint swan]

there is a thing called being poor

[wintry urchin]

Oh so just can't afford anything from inflation

[past wind]

Intel says: “Bottlenecks” occur when one component holds back the potential of a more powerful component. Almost any component can contribute to a bottleneck, but special attention should be paid to the CPU and GPU in a gaming PC.

[wintry urchin]

Eggs being 8 dollars a dozen and such

[mint swan]

i make less then 10k$ a year bro

[mighty lion]

There you go

[wintry urchin]

Wtf how

[untold ingot]

Yup, that's a pretty average gaming pc, and games are designed to work with average pcs

[mint swan]

disability

im disabled and sadly cant work

so ya

[past wind]

Thank you very much!

[mighty lion]

You are very welcome

[untold ingot]

Unless the cpu is more powerful, in which case, bottleneck lol

[split dove]

there will be concept art and tdibit info drops leading up to the gameplay reveal

[mint swan]

I think he's confused

[noble pine]

Nice. Though I will say I look forward to the gameplay trailer the most. I want to see the new mechanics in action

[mint swan]

sadly idk much about bios so i bought a prebuilt from Bestbuy thought it be a mid, ok PC but its giving me more trouble then it worth, took me a year to save up for it too

[untold ingot]

It's not a big issue having a bottleneck tbough

[untold ingot]

It's better than mine, that's for sure

[past wind]

My point is, for quite some time devs are throwing all the calculations to the GPU, hence why I’ve said they are developing games to use as much GPU power as possible

Look dlss, fsr and all

They are taking the workload from cpu to GPU

[untold ingot]

Gpus do run more efficiently, so if you have a bottleneck, that's probably where you want it imo

[past wind]

And it’s be the trend for a while now

[mint swan]

bbs i got to clean my PC again too its been a month

[past wind]

But you want your GPU running at 100% unless you are limiting your fps (which means your GPU is too op for the game)

[past wind]

Holy! I clean my pc every 3 months at the earliest

[untold ingot]

It all depends on the game. Ark for me runs 100% gpu and almost no cpu. Warzone runs 100% cpu and almost no gpu.

[mint swan]

im open cased so i cant wait that long

[past wind]

In that case, yeah, I would clean it more frequently

[past wind]

For Ark that’s how it’s supposed to be. Ark is cpu bound

I mean, I had a setup with 5950x and a RTX 3090. Both weren’t used at all

[mint swan]

i was told it was GPU bound

hrmmm

[past wind]

Cpu: 2% and GPU 30%

[mint swan]

anyway im slacking bbs

[past wind]

But assessing the msi afterburner info it was clear ark uses one or two cores and just ignores the other cores

It was a cpu bottleneck, but the cpu wasn’t being used 100%

[untold ingot]

Yeah, I have noticed that too

Supposedly Ue5 should fix that particular issue, or at least help them fix it

[past wind]

It’s complex, but if you are over the ocean, far from bases, it’s GPU bound

Go inside a mega base with 1000s of Dino’s, your cpu will cry

Even those floating green names (from the tames) cost us cpu performance

[past wind]

Hopefully

[untold ingot]

Yeah, they really really really need an option to turn off floating names, or reduce the distance they are visible at without removing the rest of the ui. Would be very helpful

[past wind]

END key does that, you won’t see names when you are far from the tames, but it’s not enough

[winged dome]

There are options, but they aren't really well known ^

[untold ingot]

My keyboard doesn't have an end key lol

[winged dome]

It's not like a setting thing

[past wind]

You can change it then

[winged dome]

I forget if it can be bound to a different key

[untold ingot]

Too many keybinds in ark can't be reset

[past wind]

You can change it

[past wind]

Im pretty sure this one you can

[untold ingot]

It's not super customisable for the range thougb

[past wind]

But now that said it, I’m not 100% sure lol

[past wind]

Just checked on Google. You can’t change it unfortunately

[untold ingot]

Yeah, they do a good job of having stuff like that available, but not a good job at keeping it in the keybinds

[prisma pike]

There is...

[polar hearth]

🇦 🇷 🇰 2️⃣ ♿

[mighty lion]

True on xbox its " turn off names" in the pin wheel

No more floating green text

[covert tapir]

You guys think community crunch gives us some juicy art concept?

[thick moat]

most likely

[mighty lion]

Wouldnt be surprised if it's the rex model today tbh

But that might be too soon

[split dove]

they did say there will be more concept art and info tidbits leading up to the gameplay. a rough timeline as the file for concept art had monthly in them. only time i'm thankfull for all the crying from the community tbh

[covert tapir]

who cares about a rex lol xd we already know its coming

[winged dome]

Thanks for the sobs - Flobs

[covert tapir]

i wanna see something new

[mighty lion]

The new rex armor is cool

[split dove]

it's proven useful only once bc we're getting more info now, for the rest i use it as sustenance on a daily basis

[covert tapir]

sobs with Flobs, now live on ark 2 discord lol

[split dove]

🍿 ☕

[untold ingot]

I would like to see something other than the Rex lol, because that was already leaked

[covert tapir]

what time does the crunch come out

[winged dome]

Variable

[mighty lion]

The real hype begins when they give us concept of the first large arat creature

[winged dome]

Nb4 Arat has no megafauna, just Leaf Lizards

[mighty lion]

Lol that would be such a waste

[thick moat]

it turns out that is just on all images of the crunches

even 2022

[past wind]

At least one mount is guaranteed, based on Steam

[tropic crag]

I hope we don't see those at all, save em for the game tbh

[split dove]

it should be concept art render of the aratai with a small tease of local wildlife obscured in the background, than fully see them in game

[tropic crag]

Perhaps

I just want the Aratan fauna to be as mysterious to us as they are to the characters in-game

[past wind]

I get what you are saying, but I don’t think concept art would kill the surprise factor

The gameplay shouldn’t show too much

[mighty lion]

I've been a fan of games that dont tell you any gaming mechanic and let players figure it out, but idk if that's a good business model

[mighty lion]

What's the #teamslime?

[tropic crag]

Have... have you not heard of the creature vote?

[bold juniper]

Haha torch goo brrrrrrrr

[mighty lion]

Oh I didn't see a slime

[tropic crag]

Oh, well it was pretty up there for a while, but then the repeat tame nation attacked

It eventually settled at 17th place, RIP that slime

Really hope we don't get purlovia 2 as the tame everyone votes for in phase 2

The beetle deserves it tbh

[obsidian tide]

I missed the images of the Rex armour leak.. so if they show it today I’d be okay with that ha

[winged dome]

Some of those suggestions ...

[mighty lion]

Check your Dms

[covert tapir]

where do i find the vote

[tropic crag]

Stage one is over, we're waiting for stage two at the moment

[covert tapir]

alrighty

[verbal wind]

hoping for beetle

[fallow niche]

Please move creature vote content to #ark-survival-ascended or #general, this is only for Ark 2.

[mighty lion]

Would allowing player to dig/flatten land ruin concept of the base spots in Ark 2?

[covert tapir]

i highly doubt they can implement that

[prisma pike]

👀 Yo send it my way too

[covert tapir]

me too pls !

[mighty lion]

There you go, sorry I only saved the concept not shown in the trailer

[past wind]

What? There was a trailer?

[winged dome]

Not if the building system is designed with terrain manipulation in mind

[past wind]

Well, it was a mess for No Man's sky. I'm not sure they can implement it the right way.

[winged dome]

I'd imagine if it were a thing implemented, the changes to the terrain would be pretty minor. No completely underground bases or anything

[mighty lion]

Yeah it was the model of the one Santiago rides with the flat almost platform like saddle and flag

[past wind]

imagine mesh holes + terraforming tools 🤡

[covert tapir]

they would have to make it look good tho

and before they do that the normal game should look good and function

[past wind]

Cool cool

and I've missed it

[split dove]

☕

fine

[fading totem]

[sonic elbow]

Tek for ARK 2 baby

Time to scare the prim players

[swift jewel]

I hope that Maewings will be in ARK 2 for some reason.

[split dove]

having the meawing in ark 2 will make the new player movement system useless, if it comes back it's glide speed should be toned way down and mainly serve to assist in raising babies

[swift jewel]

Okay, I can see that.

[split dove]

bc rn even on gen 2 you can zoom to the opposite side of the map in less than 5 min

[mighty lion]

I think this is kinda the same as saying taming an anky will make pick aaxes useless. The new traversal system will probably be cool, but I'd like to zoom around if I dont want to use it or they could incorporate tames into it

[split dove]

there should be fast tames, but hopefully not maewing fast

[verbal wind]

tropeo ftw

[split dove]

don't stoke the wild herd again

[sonic elbow]

Kekeke

[grim kestrel]

Sinomacrops has been the first dino I tamed since we got lost island when I join a server, hoping that dino is included

[winged dome]

Ankys swinging from trees, parkouring across the map for metal runs 😂

[split dove]

it has evolved, who knows how it changed besides visually

[winged dome]

Getting pile-drive'd by that spikey sucker from 100+ft would instakill anything 👀

[covert tapir]

for some reason i dont think well see creatures like that in the beginning of the game, idk how to describe what type of creatures i mean but sinomacrops is one of them

[south lance]

pick axes are useful to people?

[winged dome]

'Quality of life, no downsides' creatures?

[south lance]

beyond as a stepping stone to getting a decent farm set up

[grim kestrel]

I don't know it little interesting Wildcard only placed them on lost island and didn't give them a small spawn on Fjourdur which is one reason I think we could see it at the beginning

[covert tapir]

more like gameplay changing creatures, at the beginning we will probably only have the walking creatures no crazy jump stuff or something like that

[south lance]

stepping stones in long form survival are basically irrelevant for 99% of gameplay because eaely game lasts for teensy amount of time

[mighty lion]

Kinda meant like let a ravager slide on a tree trunk. But I'm not opposed to this, the flying anky glitch in ark is fun af

[covert tapir]

sadly early game is the best think about ark 😦

[south lance]

yeah cause the balance kinda works

you have things to do too, and many ways to go about it

[grim kestrel]

That basically over 70% of the dinos my guy

[mighty lion]

In early game, which the point of tames is an improvement on this lol

[south lance]

and the things you do then have very rapid results

[south lance]

yeah but early game is nearly irrelevant in this sort of game

after a while people are just gonna find the most optimized route so they can get to the "good" part

[covert tapir]

wouldnt say that

[mighty lion]

It's relevant for about a week for us. When new people flow in there will be people in early game for months figuring stuff out

But you are kind of missing my whole point

[grim kestrel]

Actually if anything I feel like Sinomacrops would help them make an action filled gameplay trailer considering they revealed parkour movement in which a Sino would let you do some interesting stuff

[covert tapir]

thats the main thing, they implemented a parkour like thing and i dont think they will add sinomacrops to just deem it all useless

[mighty lion]

Was saying obviously tames will be/ should be used in place of early game mechanics

When you progress

[covert tapir]

if they do it will be hard to get

[south lance]

eh ig yeah

i just dislike arks way of doing it

[grim kestrel]

Lol if anything it would highlight parkour movement which would make parkour better. Look at Dying Light 2 with a glider/parachute. It a perfect primitive way to substitute out the tek suit

[covert tapir]

im not sure if any of the free dlc creatures are to be expected

i could see the carcha coming since its new to ark 1 might aswell add it in some form to ark 2

[grim kestrel]

And not sure if their not going to be either, that why it just putting out discussion.

[winged dome]

I can see maybe a creature to create natural swinging ropes, maybe an Araneo or Bloodstalker(but smaller and not a standalone mount) could be viable, as a movement assisting shoulder pet

But full flight like a Sino, probably not

[covert tapir]

would love to see an actual cool spider not chunky cave ugly

[grim kestrel]

No since in immediately suggesting something not going to be and talk about how certain things could be beneficial. Getting tired of seeing people immediately jump to "Oh I doubt any recent additions to Ark aren't going to be included" They could have already put them there or may not.

FFS

[covert tapir]

so your allowed to state your opinion but we are not ?

sounds kinda cringe

[grim kestrel]

Obviously, but what the point in stating a negative in a suggestions/idea channel?

[covert tapir]

chill out im not here to crush your dreams

i just have hope that the new movement system is advanced enough that a sino is not needed

[stray elm]

Yeah, I agree with Laser here.

[grim kestrel]

I feel like as someone who has recently since the founders note played Ark in 3rd person and used a Sino & put several hours in DL2 a Sino with even more advanced movements than we even have now would make a good necessity cause being able to glide off a mountain parachute into certain situations and get a running start with parkour movement would be a fantastic way enjoy playing on foot rather than relying on having a flyer all the time to get around.

But you probably haven't used a Sino extensively enough to know just how fun it is to be on foot in Ark 1 which is what would be a smart way to get your new movement system used in Ark 2

[covert tapir]

i love being on foot in ark

sino is not on foot for me

[winged dome]

Glider/Parachute Sino, sure
Vertical flight Sino, pass

[covert tapir]

i hate flyers

[grim kestrel]

Sino not meant for vertical that why they're so slow going straight up.

It more for gliding and parachuting.

I keep my flyers cryo'd on my unofficial server I'm currently on cause I enjoy running around with a Sino on my back, plus it nice that I can access it inventory without putting it down.

[mighty lion]

Hope rock drakes are in Ark 2

[verbal wind]

i like exploring on foot, but when i build a base i need flyers to haul shit

and it takes forever to get anywhere on foot which gets tedious when you hit mid level

[grim kestrel]

Flyers are def still useful and I keep one inventory'd, I was just making a point to dude that Sino gave me so much enjoyment to play on foot more cause it helped increase mobility

[thick shoal]

Boo no new Ark 2 morsels to chew on this week's update

[mighty lion]

Yeah jokes on use for assuming they'd be consistent

[split dove]

they never said it would be weekly lol, just that we would get more leading up to the gameplay

[thick shoal]

Yeah but no mention of TSOTF Console release either, even though it's out in a couple of days.

[rancid harness]

I can see all of them making a comeback in ark 2. They've already got the concepts and it'd be easier to rebalance something than to come up with something new.

[thick shoal]

Well not holding my breathe for gameplay anytime soon then

[rancid harness]

Yeah I think we're a month out on gameplay yet at minimum.

[split dove]

i see we've gone with the ''let's overreact and overspeculate'' approach again

if it's still set for June than yh we might see the gameplay soon ish

[mighty lion]

I'm not getting my hope's up for release until 12/31/23. Even though midyear makes the most sense

[tropic forge]

guys guys its voting weekend chill

[verbal wind]

true. i love my sino just for getting around my base, and especially for building up high where i often fall off

[tropic forge]

"Depends on the definition of 'soon'... soon-ish/soon" by jeremy stieglitz

[grim kestrel]

That what I'm saying, it going to sell a shit ton of copies with or without gameplay footage

[lost canopy]

I just hope some of the cool stuff that's been thought up over the years makes it into the game. Like wagons you can hitch to some dinos.

Just imagine a giant wagon with two Paracers hitched to it. Or Brontos.

[winged dome]

I really hope a mobile base is more viable than Ark1. They're so fun but with interior structures getting annihilated by wild dinos so easily, even through walls, it's totally impractical

[desert swallow]

that and if someone lures a giga to your bronto or paracer your base is gone.

You'd have to have defenses on it for that strength of dino, but then that becomes exploitable.

I think it'd be more feasible if a bronto could carry a tonne of weight and you could take apart and setup utility structures. That way you could gather resources, process them and come back home. To make it actually worth doing they'd have to heavily nerf how much any flier can carry.

[past wind]

That’s what we used to do on the good old days. Weight quetzal or bronto + chem bench + fabricator etc. Then they removed the possibility to use generators on platforms.

[winged dome]

I blame Turret Quetzals

[past wind]

“Armored quetzals” were worse though

Removing just the turrets from the platforms wasn’t possible?

[desert swallow]

it's the flyer aspect, quetzals were just too powerful and mobile even if not fast, you could clear terrain that would take much longer for a bronto to.

[untold ingot]

Rafts are a thing lol

Quetzes are just quite simply too op of a creature to have a platform saddle. But I really don't like fliers anyway lol

[lost canopy]

I remember using a Bronto instead of a raft back in Legacy. It was slightly faster.

[winged dome]

Yeah, rafts are pretty great

[untold ingot]

I honestly kind of hope that enclosed platform structures aren't viable in ark2

[south lance]

need to be unable to build through creatures

how hard would making collision boxes exist for platform structures be

[lost canopy]

I'd like for wagons to replace platform saddles.

I don't know about brontos... But on a Quetz, if you build too low, or through the wrong spot, it causes some issues flying down

[untold ingot]

I like the wagon idea, it makes more practical sense imo. For a quetz though, a wagon doesn't make sense

[lost canopy]

Flying kite

Just a giant kite towed behind the birb

[mint swan]

ok,ok i was hard on myself this morning , long as my computer can run ARK 2 ill try it

im ok with 3rd person

im just used to first

[torpid steppe]

is ark 2 gonna have fabis

@drowsy ibex ?

[winged dome]

Pinging devs always gets answers 😂

Keep trying, you'll get it

[untold totem]

Who knows

You will get a rare wild Jat who is still to this day, don't know what a #CursedLore is

[astral token]

A wild Jat appeared

[tropic crag]

It isn't for anyone, it's whole thing is being on air, not on foot 🤣

Also, don't mind Boxcar Joe, he gets offended if you so much as suggest a counterpoint to something he wants in the game, even if it's reasonable and makes sense

[mighty lion]

My bet for the gameplay trailer is pax east. Seems to hold a special place in the devs heart

[mint swan]

Can ark 2 launch in Android

[covert tapir]

nooo thats late march 😮

[mighty lion]

Yep

[covert tapir]

how about a release date on pax east and a gameplay trailer in febuary

[mighty lion]

I'd be happy with that, but bot hopeful it would happen

Not*

[ionic meteor]

I won't be surprised if they release a gameplay trailer right before release by a month or less

they might want to give us a look at the most polished and latest build of the game

which could explain why its taking them so long to show us gameplay

[tropic crag]

I know literally almost nobody else would do this, but I'm going in to the trailers and such knowing that it won't be what the final product looks like, so I wish they'd just drop it on me already. But again, almost nobody else in here thinks this way, i.e. rationally and knowing that the early access release will not in any way indicate the look of the final product

[ionic meteor]

Some people are critical of such things, they'll look back at the trailers to see if its the same quality promised. I'd say ARK 2 might be going through massive graphical changes due to the recent release of UE5.

[split dove]

knowing how rabid this community is that might be the best move

[tropic crag]

We both know that, but the (honestly rather stupid) majority base things off of old builds and such, even if it's directly stated that the footage in no way indicates the final product, lol

That's my point, basically

I wish devs weren't held back by the idiots

And the perspectives that they give

[ionic meteor]

Also they're pressured to deliver what they stated on the steam page so its really hard to pull it off and I dont really blame them for taking so long.

[split dove]

if you release it on time broken people will be angry, if they release it later as a finished product people will still be angry bc it was delayed, there is no winning in these situations

[tropic crag]

Yeah 😕

[covert tapir]

they could just do a trailer do the things seperatly, if they completed souls like gameplay they can do a 1 minute trailer showing just thag

once they finish sense based ai they can show it all one at a time

[ionic meteor]

And if it ends up releasing smooth and polished with very little bugs and well optimized nobody would care and praise them for it lol

[tropic crag]

Unfortunately, that isn't quite how it works

[ionic meteor]

I predict that they'll show off a lot of different aspects of the game including combat, dino-riding mechanics, building ig?

Not separately I think

[covert tapir]

also i dont mind a buggy early access ark 2 with monthly new creatutes and updates like the beginnings of ark 1 but maybe thats just me

[split dove]

if they show it seperately people will just pile on them like ''see guys, they've only finished combat just now. it's delayed to 2028 or cancelled''

[ionic meteor]

I hope they do creature submissions soon after release and keep doing it throughout ARK 2's lifespan, this community has a lot of great ideas

[split dove]

and also a lot of uhm questionable ideas

[covert tapir]

well i mean ive there are votes we probably just get to choose they creatutes they made beforehand

dont think they will just add random guys in the beginning

[ionic meteor]

ARK 2 rex model got leaked showing another saddle type

Check out GP's video on youtube

The other type of saddle looks interesting

[crude stone]

what tek on leather armor?!

[ionic meteor]

Looks like its deactivated-tek? might've confirmed an old theory saying that we might see use of deactivated-tek as protection

[split dove]

and a possible look at component based crafting on saddles

[ionic meteor]

That would be amazing if they do that like adding extra storage-bags giving more space to store items, or putting on a flag

[split dove]

i mean that look was just the base rex saddle with added scrap tek on it, so it does tie into what the component based crafting description says

[ionic meteor]

If thats the case then I wonder if theres other types like metal, chitin, ghillie saddles

ghillie saddle

I could only think about the amount of saddle models they'll have to do for every single dino

[tropic crag]

I imagine, if there is saddle variants and not just direct upgrades, that there'll be some stealth based saddle variants

Hopefully one for the raptor, sneaky ambush raptor class/build would be sick as hell

[ionic meteor]

Yeah I think it might be varients like in ARK 1 (TEK saddle, Normal saddle) but more, maybe the customization part might come in the form of adding extra stuff on the saddle.

Extra seats, storage bags, a flag(like in the trailer).

[split dove]

i can't wait for the influx of people coming and going ''that deleted tweets render had scrap tek, the devs lied and we're still gonna have tek in ark 2'' after videos are made. but it's the same people (have mercy on our sanity)

[swift jewel]

What Dino do you guys think will be shown next?🤔

[split dove]

a creature

[tropic forge]

gotta support clickbait youtubers

[mighty lion]

Already saw a YouTube short with the renders saying something like that

The saddle looks like components taken from tek creatures attached with leather

[covert tapir]

idk why its such a big topic xd they said there wont be working tek and yet every day people talk about it here

its just tek bits of the ship

[blissful nest]

Yall think tek dinos will be more common on ARK 2?

[covert tapir]

nope

i think it will be less mammals less tek and more actual dinosaurs

• arat wildlife of course

[elfin pumice]

I dont think there will be any

[blissful nest]

Alien Bear owl

[covert tapir]

more like alien bear owl beaver axelotl salmon 5 hands 12 limbs super trooper

[blissful nest]

[Visible wtf did I just read]

[covert tapir]

hyper cutting side walking backflip doing

xd

[winged dome]

Sounds like some of those creature submissions 😂

[covert tapir]

true lol xd

[grizzled ermine]

have there been any leaks or reveals since the trailer? I haven' t been keeping up

[winged dome]

One potential of Tek scrap plating/saddle on a Rex but image was deleted

Other than that, nothing new

[grizzled ermine]

I hope that there won' t be full on Tek items but that you can instead upgrade items with a certain Tek part

[past wind]

IMO, it didn’t look like a tek armor. It looked more like a metal armor.

And it follows the same logic from the saddle in the last trailer

[winged dome]

I never saw it, but some comments saying it looked like salvaged metal/Tek plating

[past wind]

My: maybe the saddles blueprints will have multiple materials to be used and final results may vary

[past wind]

I wouldn’t say it looked like tek, but we will see

I mean, it’s not possible to see any LEDS and there are no tek guns on it. Hence why it looked more like metal armor than tek armor

[visual canopy]

Like the thing from Croods?
If you heard of that movie.

[tropic crag]

It was most certainly unpowered/reclaimed/scrap tek that they were going for with that look, but yeah it definitely isn't going to be working in any fashion whatsoever

If it's even real, still convinced it's fake

[astral token]

Maybe, “don’t try to state things like you know them” to quote BruisingPikmin (2023)

[tropic crag]

Nothing I said was speculation, though? But nice try

[astral token]

We have seen WC go back on their word multiple times

I doubt Tek will be gone forever

[tropic crag]

It is in the base game, at least

So uh

[astral token]

.

[tropic crag]

I'm gonna need proof there, chief

[astral token]

A simple example, remember the Shadowmane poster with Genesis 2, March 2021?

Wrong year*

[tropic crag]

Ok?

[astral token]

“Extinction will be the last DLC for ARK I”

[tropic crag]

Delays aren't "going back on their word", btw

[tropic crag]

They never said that, they said it was their last planned DLC

Just like Fjordur was their last planned map, and the carcharo their last planned dino

[astral token]

Tek is not planned to be in ARK II

[winged dome]

SE not going to get an ending, it's a finished product

[tropic crag]

No, that's different, they've outright said it is definitively not

[astral token]

And anyway I think you’re failing to understand my point, which being you should stop calling out others on such trivial issues

[tropic crag]

That wasn't made by them and was a complete spur of the moment thing, to be fair, as was the voiced notes and such

[astral token]

And see the decency which they exhibit by not responding when you do

Everything has an explanation only when you say it oh great Pikmin

[tropic crag]

Same to you

[astral token]

I will comply, make sure you do too :D

[tropic crag]

The need to respond to something not even directed at you weighs heavily on your mind, my condolences

[blissful perch]

It’s true that design intentions can change over time

Equally true that our current understanding is that the tek tier is absent in ark 2

[astral token]

Don’t think mazzy was talking to you either the other day ^^

[sullen mango]

i would be surprised if tek was not in the game arks not a primitive survival game

also there is a massive space ship made of tek crashed on the planet

[blissful perch]

A dev tweet says tek gear is not next for the ark series

So I’d be pretty surprised to see tek tier of any kind in ark 2 unless we get new messaging

[sullen mango]

i think thatts a bit stupid

[astral token]

I think it won’t be in the base game, but a DLC will introduce it

[sullen mango]

massive space ship made of tek that crashed into the planet one of if not the main character created alot of tek stuff and the last dlc was built on tek

would not make sense to go from tons of tek to no tek

[astral token]

I think DLCs in ARK II won’t be map based entirely, but content based more so

[blissful perch]

We do see said character shutting tek down

[sullen mango]

fair enough

[fallow niche]

There might be tek stuff around in the environment, but I don't think there will be any usable tek

[sullen mango]

but that dose not stop the power Hungary people from harvesting it

[blissful perch]

I think we know way too little about ark 2 to know how the DLC will look

[tropic crag]

Or if there even will be DLC

[astral token]

Where’s my people typing emoji

[blissful perch]

But I’m skeptical tek will be part of a DLC. We may see tek gear in missions or special places like boss fights

[fallow niche]

Sort of like the structures in the last dlcs, buildings and stuff that we could live in, but not actual harvestable tek

[blissful perch]

Adding tek will fly in the face of what ark 2 seems to be going for with a more primitive down to the ground survival feel

[fallow niche]

Yep

[sullen mango]

what about the tek rex armor that was leaked i know its not a concept but wild card probably would of told them what they want

[blissful perch]

We have no idea what that’s for

[tropic crag]

Or if it's even real

[astral token]

Exactly, we have no idea

Idealess life is sad

[sullen mango]

could be not functional just another tier of armor like flak or leather

[blissful perch]

We know the devs said “no tek tier in ark 2”

[sullen mango]

proof

either way makes no sense

[blissful perch]

And that tek would appear in the environment

[blissful perch]

@split dove do you have the no tek cc/tweet readily available?

[split dove]

uhm

[astral token]

A wild Flobs appeared

[winged dome]

'Tek is no -Dev'
-Flobs

[blissful perch]

They did also talk a bit about how tek won’t be treated as beneficial as in ark 1 in the Pax interview

[astral token]

(2021)

[sullen mango]

if tek in the environment wouldn't it corrupt the new planet?

[astral token]

I don’t think ARK as a franchise was ever intended to be a grounded survival game, but that’s my opinion

[sullen mango]

like earth

[sullen mango]

exactly early days it was but its not

[ionic meteor]

Kinda leaning more towards sandbox tbh

[sullen mango]

you not even on a real island

[astral token]

RAW element we know corrupts, but controlled element can be beneficial

[blissful perch]

Ark is about taming wildlife, after which it can be anything

[astral token]

Similar to Uranium

[sullen mango]

no its not

[sullen mango]

i guess

[blissful perch]

It’s certainly not about tek moreso than taming

[tropic crag]

You're thinking of element, I believe

[sullen mango]

tek is made of elemnt

[astral token]

ARK is about discovering the truth, a grand adventure to save the planet

and find new places to live on, as Genesis told us

[tropic crag]

Yes, but it isn't element, if that makes sense

[winged dome]

I thought in lore, Element corruption really only got out of hand with the Tek War spreading Element spores? Having some leftover Tek scrap on a planet probably won't be nearly as severe

[blissful perch]

I’m talking about the game yet that answer sounds like the lore

[sullen mango]

im sorry tamings a mechanic your not on a real island your on a space station made of tek

[astral token]

It is certainly not just a wildlife taming game

It is definitely something more

[sullen mango]

what i though but tek would be damaged so it would leak out or whatever

[blissful perch]

Taming is the core feature of ark that makes it unique and worth playing. Other features are built on top of this core

[sullen mango]

yeah but its much more than taming and survival now

the whole game is set on a space station made of tek

[blissful perch]

Not at its core as a series. We see this demonstrated with all the changes ark 2 is bringing

Setting means nothing to core game design. Neither does lore

[astral token]

Setting means a lot

Compare it to Atlas

The core gimmick is the same if you consider it

Yet its a lossy floundering failure

[blissful perch]

The core of ATLAS is more similar to the core of sea of thieves than ark. It’s built far more around a core mechanic of exploration

Unless I missed something taming is also entirely non essential in ATLAS

[sullen mango]

arks way more lore focused now

[blissful perch]

Having lore ≠ lore focus

[sullen mango]

before the lore was hard to find and now its pretty much in the main story with gentwo

[astral token]

I don’t think ARK is just a survival game at any rate

[blissful perch]

Ark’s lore is almost entirely in optional explorer notes nobody gets outside of note runs. Less than 10% of players have all the ones on one map (the island)

[sullen mango]

ark is just a mix of alot of things tvh

[sullen mango]

i said the newer maps

like gen two

and gen one

and sorta of extinction but not really

[blissful perch]

Story is still heavily optional (I’d guess even fewer than 10% of players have all Gen 2 notes) and non invasive

[sullen mango]

also lore community has really exploded

[astral token]

@sullen mango are u a literature kinda guy?

[sullen mango]

wdym

[astral token]

Like do u read a lot & have literature and stuff in ur studies

[sullen mango]

ok but still no point of lore if your just gonna contradict it

[astral token]

Seems to me like u a ready kinda guy like me xD

[sullen mango]

not really

[blissful perch]

There’s no contradiction

[astral token]

Hmm

[sullen mango]

yes there is

[astral token]

I think Shifter means that ARK is a dino taming game, all else comes after

[blissful perch]

Lore can and often IS rewritten to fit gameplay. And ofc there’s not yet any contradiction 😅

[blissful perch]

Moreso that if you were to distill ark the series into ONE thing, it’s probably taming. Everything else can be changed across different ark titles

[tropic crag]

Dingdingdingdingding

We have a winner

[astral token]

My point is that ARK is past the point of being distilled into 1 thing

It is focused on a lot of aspects

[sullen mango]

no tek in ark 2 contradicts it loads the characters are through out time alot of them like santiago know how to use tek and know how benifical it is if charaters like that are in the game like you said in the envirment they would use it to there advantaga

[blissful perch]

Ark 1 has many aspects, but ark the series may not choose to focus on many or any of the beyond whatever WC defines as core elements to ark the SERIES

[astral token]

I am presuming the blocked message is from Pikmin, call me petty but I just don’t like such guys 🤷🏽

[sullen mango]

ark is more than a dino taming game now

[blissful perch]

No tek tier in ark 2 in no way contradicts ark 1

[astral token]

Yes but it will probably focus on lore too

[blissful perch]

It’s like removing the fabricator…I’d hardly say that’s intrinsic to what makes ark the series

[astral token]

True, but I still doubt Tek is gone completely

Vindiago might shut it down, but I can turn it back on 😎

[blissful perch]

Tek, like obelisks, etc isn’t going anywhere. Just the jet packs and crap

[sullen mango]

yes it would did you not read my message the colony ship is full of people through out time and we know there was alot of people so alot of them would be from the tek age

and they know how benifical tek is

[blissful perch]

So? The tek age doesn’t mean they have the equipment

[sullen mango]

so they would use it

[sullen mango]

but they know how to use it

and alot of them knew how to make it

[blissful perch]

I know how to fire a gun. Doesn’t mean I can make one out of sticks and metal

[sullen mango]

well a few of them knew

[astral token]

Calm doon guys, I think we can agree that it might happen, but we are not sure :p ^^

There is a possibility

[blissful perch]

I’d argue it would be a mistake to add tek tier back but yes it’s possible down the line it’s added

[sullen mango]

wc have chosen to go down a tek route

like 3 dlcs are based on tek

[blissful perch]

For ark 1, yes. And it’s just as easy to flip around for ark 2

[sullen mango]

not really

big tek space ship crashed on planet

[sinful flicker]

when ark 2

[blissful perch]

Just like it was easy to remove oceans for every DLC between the island and genesis 1

[astral token]

Never

Maybe 2024 or late 2023 tho

[sullen mango]

yes because there different maps

[astral token]

Probably 2024 I think

[blissful perch]

Not to be rude, but is there a reason you’re struggling to grasp that lore comes AFTER gameplay?

[sinful flicker]

😢

[blissful perch]

Game is built -> lore explains gameplay. If the gameplay is tek tier free, reasoning is made up after the fact to justify

[fallow niche]

Tek free because last lore blew it up in the form of a ship crashing

[sullen mango]

fair enough

[sullen mango]

crashing on the planet

where the new game is set

[south lance]

if you complain enough theyll bring back tek in future dlc

[blissful perch]

Even if that ship landed totally unharmed lore can be written to justify no tek tier

[fallow niche]

Yep

[sullen mango]

and TEK pods landing suvivors

[south lance]

you have a phone but you dunno how to make one

[blissful perch]

A tek pod ofc could have no functioning tek in it to make anything but the one trip pod

[south lance]

probably can create a similar justification with tek

esp since rockwell killed all the scientists or smthn

[blissful perch]

And again that assumes someone can perfectly replicate a likely factory assembly process with random scrap parts, etc etc etc

[sullen mango]

well the suviors know how to make tek the gen one simulation was to prepare them for it and you could make tek in that

[south lance]

ship probably has some AI but rockwell probably handled that too

[blissful perch]

The realm of “making shit up” is now in play: see my above statement that gameplay comes first and “making shit up” explains it after

[sullen mango]

so they know

anyway i gtg now

good argument cya klater

[south lance]

genesis sim didnt directly correspond with survivors in the eden ring tho, like if the eden ring gets fucked up then the sim is gone and anyone hooked into it might be as well

idk if we have confirmed lore based survivors on the eden ring besides like 2 or smthn

or ig all the bobs

that we see in trailer

no clue if they necessarily know how to make tek

ill make some convoluted reason for why they dont if i had the will to look into gen2 notes again

[cinder solar]

Y'all seen the saddle yet?

[south lance]

which

rex?

[cinder solar]

Yur

Raas put up a new video

[worldly garden]

👀

[winged dome]

Dubious, potentially fake screenshot
'TEK CONFIRMED, DEVS LIARS, NEW LEAK UNFO REVEALED!' -Youtubers

[astral token]

I got botted 😐

[south lance]

oh cool tek gonna be like metal 2.0

[split dove]

it better not be functional tek

[south lance]

probably wont

[split dove]

i hope it's mainly just part of the component based crafting

[south lance]

it is

most likely

im like 80% sure itll be metal but stronger

maybe itll have a cool glitchy glowy effect

and maybe it causes damage to the creature over long exposure times

so you sacrifice creature health for armor

[split dove]

my guess it's like tek saddles armour wise, just offering more armour

[south lance]

the last 2 parts i have no reason to believe

i just think itll be cool as a trade off for worthwhile and significant increase in armor

cause tek is stronger than metal right

[split dove]

yh

[south lance]

like lore based

[split dove]

oh easily

[south lance]

aight

i didnt know if tek was like as strong as metal but did everything else too and had some energy properties

[elfin pumice]

But arent tek things just metal things with element?

So if theyre powered off, its just metal

[mint swan]

so ark 2 isnt gonna be on ps5? 😕

[tropic forge]

possibly after some time since its time exclusive to pc/xbox

[lavish rain]

I'd say about 3 years after for ps5

[worldly garden]

Doubt it would be that long. Wasn't even that long for ARK 1.

[tropic forge]

just spend some time compare trailer rex to so called "leak rex model" and gotta say theres couple missing stuff or that's a fake model or they change it from trailer to new model which makes no sense cause its missing few stuff that aint major at all to be erase

[uneven chasm]

do you have maybe these rex leaks on the hand?

cant find it anywhere on the internet now

[tropic forge]

gp as it

[worldly garden]

Considering they said that it was "recent" work that could suggest things have changed. Concept Labs do work for major brands, they ain't gonna be putting out fake stuff.

[uneven chasm]

i mean in form of png, not youtube video

[tropic forge]

yeh i look into concept labs too, seems they focus on web3 and nft's on their linkid

and the suttf thats missing from trailer to that suppose "leak" aint much either, littler diference on the tail lether some feathers i think??? plus those look a like horns on the saddle edge near rex neck and some other little difference stuff

than you have the so call "tek armor" that i could swear its giving me huge vibes of new horizon dawn

[astral token]

Sarcasm detected

[tropic forge]

than there's the best part, someone suppose to work for wildcard "leaking" info not for public yeh that if they are working for them pretty sure they had to do contract to prevent such stuff, if was me i would use a fake account to reveal something that i was working on but couldt share whitout having legal issues but that's just me

[uneven chasm]

weird there are no pictures floating around

sounds like controlled leak, cause all youtubers got same cut screenshot of twitter page and rex pic leaks

to build up the hype surely

[tropic forge]

thats some weird controlled leak hype for sure 🤣

[uneven chasm]

i mean it works right, free advertising

toobers get views, devs get attention

[tropic forge]

my problem is the twitter that share is releated to "Concept Labs has evolved to focus solely on NFTs and has successfully pivoted to play a major role in the creation of Web3 and the metaverse ecosystem" but i could be understanding this wrong and they actually do models for wildcard

[mint swan]

Have the devs mentioned how long ark 1 will be supported when ark 2 comes out?

[forest monolith]

idk

[covert tapir]

since theres this change to ue 5 on ark 1 i think it will be plenty of time till it is no longer supportet but thats just a guess

[forest monolith]

but im not planing to get ark 2 so i hope atleast a few years

[mint swan]

Yeah the UE5 update on ark 1 doesnt make much sense to me

[forest monolith]

will it be big in size

im running out of that

[covert tapir]

ark will probably smaller afterwards

i think

[mint swan]

I assume UE5 would help with size issues

[forest monolith]

the update is it big

[covert tapir]

yes but you also loose a bunch gb

cause the old sizes say bye bye

[forest monolith]

like how big i dont have much internet left

[covert tapir]

huh? much internet lol?

[forest monolith]

limited internet

[covert tapir]

idk what does that have to do with the file size

if you managed to download normal ark you will have enough internet to update to ue 5

[mint swan]

I figured the same...the ridiculous file size on ark is tied to the engine right?

[covert tapir]

guess its a bunch of things cause ark just does not have a prober base

[limber tartan]

Hello

[tropic forge]

it was suppose to end all events on this year but yeh there's new creature coming plus the insane idea of doing ark1 to UE5

[mint swan]

Yep, kinda shocked by it lol. But at the same time a bit concerned

Why put the effort to do UE5 on ark 1, does this have to do with some uncertainty they have on ark 2 or something idk

[stray elm]

This isn't the first time they stated they're done with ARK

Remember Extinction?

[forest monolith]

fax my guess ark 2 at 2030

[tropic forge]

yeh exctintion was suppose to be the last dlc yet another season pass come along 🤣

[mint swan]

Lol i know this is a troll comment but i wudnt be surprised of a delay

Tbh id actually want a delay, i wouldnt mind learning ark for 1 more year under UE5 engine xd

[covert tapir]

just hoping ark 2 to look better than ue5 ark 1 xd

will happen ofcourse

[mint swan]

^ Loool so true

[stray elm]

Unless they're updating every single texture in the game, then I doubt UE5 ARK-1 will look better

[tropic forge]

if youre imagen play ark2 like you play ark1 brace yourself for impact

[forest monolith]

ye

[mint swan]

Will there be any visual difference from ark 1 and 2 under ue5 ... its such a weird decision that its possible lol

[covert tapir]

also means now that ark 1 is prettier, ark 2 will have to be EVEN MORE prettier as an expection than before

[mint swan]

when is ark 2 release date?

[tropic forge]

2023

[mint swan]

Not gonna act like I know what im talking about, but doesn't switching to UE5 means switching all assets to those supported by UE5? Or am i just talking out my ass

basically implying that ark 1 and 2 would be using the same or similar assets

[stray elm]

Very.
Not only do they generally have a slightly different artstyle, but ARK-2 already has much high-res textures which makes a lot of difference.
ARK-1 is still going to be held back with new UE5 features, since it's both on last-gen consoles and generally has too shitty of a base-coding.
If ARK-2 was built from the ground up, then they don't have much, if any of these issues. And so can utilize all of UE5.

[mortal siren]

Switching to UE5 means porting all Ark 1 assets to UE5 so they all work with UE5

[tropic forge]

no could be just doing nanite to land structures plus light dosent need to touch creature assets

[stray elm]

It just mean porting assets and coding from one engine to another.

[mint swan]

good point

Ah i see

[mortal siren]

Ark 1 on UE 5 will indeed look better than in UE4, UE5 has Nanite and Lumen(RTX) and treats light better

They could update some things like the ocean and clouds to make them look better

But it will still be the same textures of Ark 1

Just way better

[mint swan]

You expecting a massive fps boost?

I feel like ark will be the best guinea pig to test the hype behind UE5 lol

[mortal siren]

Depends but UE5 should make the game run better, yes

And a big size difference as well, the game could be 50% smaller

[mint swan]

jeez...

so hyped for it

[jaunty turret]

as in storage needed?

[mortal siren]

But we may all need to reinstall the whole game with its DLCs

[mortal siren]

Yeah

[jaunty turret]

thank god

[mortal siren]

You will need less storage

That’s not 100% sure though

[jaunty turret]

im first gonna get a new disc with more space in a couple of months, and i still wanna play ark without 90% of my storage being taken

[mint swan]

i wonder if vin diesal has played ark 2

[mortal siren]

You can actually do it yourself without waiting for the remaster, use the "Compact" option that is available for windows, will make the game 50% smaller in size and not affect performance

[mint swan]

Whats the consequence of doing that? Downscaled graphics?

[jaunty turret]

yeah but it affects game quality

[mortal siren]

From what I have read on Reddit, nothing

[mortal siren]

Oh well, I didn’t know

[jaunty turret]

this might be wrong but after compacting i also ran into many crashes which i did not before

[mortal siren]

I guess yeah, he is part of studio WildCard now

[mint swan]

so insane lol

[winged dome]

I do kinda wonder how much pull he has on development of the game, if any

[mint swan]

I hope none ill be honest xD

Hopefully just a figurehead for the company that hes a fan of

[mint swan]

i wonder if ark 1 on UE5 will have better graphics like portal 1 got recently

[mint swan]

i think he had the privilege to be the first playtester

he said at some point in social media that he played a ton of ark1 and hes rly rly good , imagine with all the playtesting , he will be ahead of us.. he will be part of the first alpha tribes or mega tribes 😲

[mint swan]

Lol rly rly good

just doing a quick google search hes apparently an executive producer

[stray elm]

He never said he's good, just that he played a lot of ARK with his kids.

[mint swan]

playing a lot of hrs will give you the knowledge enough to have a headstart to everyone else who didnt play as much as you (ofc if you didnt just afk those hours by breeding and stuff)

[mint swan]

whats that

[stray elm]

Fair

[stray elm]

He's the executive producer of the Animated-Series iirr.
He's the president of the entertainment department for ARK-2, iirr.

[mint swan]

also afaik most ppl who work on something (anything , not just games) usually get a chance to have a hold of the stuff

"Mostly, executive producers acquire screenplays for development. They pitch ideas to the TV commissioners and deal with the legal, financial, and marketing aspects of the TV series." <-- So I dont think he actually is involved at all with making any decisions on the game, just how its marketed

[untold ingot]

They estimate he has 1000 hours in ark1, which means he is a Bob really

[mint swan]

its hard to get many hrs in ark when you have about 50000 of movie acting , lol

[untold ingot]

This is true. But it doesn't change that he as a player won't make much impact

[mint swan]

i guess so , i didnt know all that

Tbh its been a while since ive seen him in a movie...im sure I will see him soon though in the new fast and furious when they fight with the avengers against Thanos

yeah i think hell be in all FAF movies

[untold ingot]

Well, he is in the animated show and ark2, both are big projects lol

[mint swan]

pitch black was his best movie by a long mile

[stray elm]

Ever watched Guardians of the Galaxy?

[mighty lion]

Lol

[mint swan]

That the one with the tree

that talks

[stray elm]

Yep.
He voices the tree

[mighty lion]

Damn pulling the groot card

[mint swan]

wait what LOL

[stray elm]

Vin-Diesel plays as Groot

[mint swan]

playing groot clip now...i cant recall ever listening to that tree and thinking it was him

[stray elm]

'voice-acting'

[mint swan]

oh wait...now that i rewatch this...yeah thats him

damn

still doesnt top pitch black xD

either way , he gets to be in movies with rly cool driving of cars , he gets to be groot , he gets to be a giga chad primitive riding a trex in a world filled with dinosaurs

Could be worse tbh...could be keanu reeves

[blissful nest]

You deserve a veterans discount and a chad discount

[mint swan]

ever since cyberpunk ive been wary of any celebrity representation in video games

[stray elm]

You say that like his role was shit.

His character was pretty solid in the game.

[mint swan]

a celebrity appears in a game if either 1: they enjoy the game and want to be part of it or 2: the gaming company has a big budget

[mint swan]

It was pretty lame dude

Imagine calling some random dude a samurai

[split dove]

or both

[mint swan]

when its in the future

[stray elm]

You do know Samurai's are a name of a faction in the universe, right?

[mint swan]

but tbh as a gaming company owner id spend my budget on idk , optimisation maybe? rather than on expensive actors (while i can just pick one of you dino loving giga chads to voice a char in my game)

[mint swan]

Yeah thats how bad the game was...imagine having a samurai faction in the deep future

[stray elm]

By any chance, do you like Fallout or Star-Wars?

[mint swan]

Never really followed star wars, was put off by the fact that their movies were in reverse order. Fallout New Vegas / fallout 3 i loved

76 was a meme

[stray elm]

Imagine having a medieval faction in a deep-future wasteland game.

[mint swan]

Thats a bit different tho, civiilzation was nuked and the world had a hard reset for some communities

[stray elm]

Nah, that's just you trying to defend a poor argument.
Cyberpunk is literally set only 40-years in a future, in a alternative timeline, and so old-world terms would be more fucking common then they would be 200+ years from now.
Not only that, but some cultures still have old terms like 'knights' and 'samurai's' as that's their fucking history.
'The fucking royal-army' the fucking 'queen' of Britten.

[mint swan]

How does having old "terms" translate to using them practically? Don't see how your argument is good either lol. Sure, there are references to Samurai's and knights of the past...are the japanese army using samurai's to defend their countries? Or England using knights?

then a random line about the royal army / queen of britain randomly thrown in to support Samurais in a society where flying cars exist 😂

[stray elm]

Cause we live in a world where machine-powered vehicles, and light-reflected boxes exist. Yet some cultures still use old-world terms like 'Queens' and 'Kings' for their nations.

It's no different then being in the future, and them referring some people as 'samurai's'

[mint swan]

how does using the term translate to using them practically. not sure why ur fixating on terms when the countries only use these examples ur providing for cultural reasons...similar to the US doing civil war reenactments with muskets...yeah, the US army arent using muskets im pretty sure 😛

[stray elm]

Again, when a whole faction is dedicated to the old rules of samurai's. How does calling someone a "samurai" out of respect not act as 'cultural reasons' when their faction, their 'culture' is built upon those rules?

[mighty lion]

So essentially sabikui bisco the game ?

[stray elm]

Basically.

[mint swan]

samurai's isnt a word used for respect or even intrinsic in Japanese culture...they were military group however the many years ago who died off..its not something that can be reintroduced in later stages ... unless u have some really cringe story writing

[stray elm]

I didn't say "Japanese" culture. I said the culture of the faction that picked up Bushido.

[blissful perch]

I mean…you can have something similar enough to use a similar name yes? I’m sure you could have musketmen in the future who don’t shoot 1700’s style muskets

[mint swan]

sure you could

they wouldnt last long

and theyd get meme'd on tik tok

[stray elm]

That's assuming tik-tok existed in Cyberpunk, which I doubt since the U.S government owns the legal rights to most of the internet in that universe.

[mint swan]

Exactly , imagine promoting samurai's in a western society

everything is off with cyberpunk lore

[stray elm]

They're not promoting though?
They're a literal underground faction.

[mint swan]

cmon bro they were everywhere, wearing matching yakuza style outfits

it made no sense

[stray elm]

You'd be surprised how many people would start joining a faction like that under a dictator government that monopolizes everything, including human rights.

[mint swan]

I guess

I wonder if ark 2 will have samurai in some shape or form

[tropic crag]

Homeboy clearly doesn't know about the minutemen in Fallout 4 LMAO

[stray elm]

TRUE!

[tropic crag]

Clown takes buddy

[winged dome]

Or Caesar's Legion

[stray elm]

That's what I've been saying?

[stray elm]

Or the Great 'Khans'
Or again, The Brotherhood of Steel

[mint swan]

Its different, in fallout you are talking about a society that got completely reset in the nuke... even today you have sentinel tribes who lay on islands who have no access to technology

[winged dome]

Or The Kings 😂
Republic of Dave?
Does that one count?

[mint swan]

but in cyberpunk its like they are incorporating a normal society with old eastern concepts with samurai and kitana's

[stray elm]

Or literally everything else in the Fallout universe.

[tropic crag]

How is it different? You make no fucking sense

[stray elm]

'normal' 💀

[mint swan]

ok let me paint a picture...

in scenario 1 you wake up in a deserted island with only a spear and a shield. With a piece of cloth tied to yourself.

Scenario 2, you wake up in New York city with baggy jeans and a hoodie, and you wield a spear and shield.

Which scenario sounds dumb as fuck

[stray elm]

Okay, that clearly shows you don't know Cyberpunk lore.
A: Everything, including human rights are purchasable.
B: It's in a separate timeline where WW3 happened recently, and most non-super power nations are gone now.
C: I personally wouldn't call a 12Ft tall tank of a robot cyborg a 'normal society'

Damn, I can't spell.

[tropic crag]

"Clearly, because Fallout is a dystopian alt-history post-apocalypse, and Cyberpunk 2077 is a dystopian alt-history future, the settings are different and therefore the themes don't fit in Cyberpunk 🤪 "

[stray elm]

Who the fuck said they used spears?

[south lance]

the takes 😭

[mint swan]

its just an example ,its equavlent of kitana's being used in 2072

[tropic crag]

It's really not LMAO

[mint swan]

and people following bushoshiki code or whatever the fuck its called

[tropic crag]

Someone just really hates Japanese culture I guess

[south lance]

bro nobody needs realism in a random video game

[stray elm]

When most guns are being a 10k$ USD threshold, and you live in a high crime city.
Then yeah, I'm going to use a goddamn katana if I can get my hands on one before a firearm.

[mint swan]

Bro im a fan of the culture

[south lance]

the lore justification for melee weapons is cause armor outdoes bullets or smthn

[tropic crag]

Yes, clearly

[south lance]

but like this will never be realistic lol

[mint swan]

all im saying is, you go to tokyo today and call yourself a samurai in 2023, theyll probably laugh at u

[south lance]

duh

[mint swan]

let alone 2072

[tropic crag]

Clown take

Anywho, back to Ark 2

[stray elm]

Yep, you would.
But Cyberpunk doesn't take place in 2023, nor in our universe.
Japan is fucking gone.

[mint swan]

Yeah ark 2 should have samurais i feel

it would fit if they implement it right

[south lance]

bro what

[tropic crag]

Obvious troll is obvious

[mint swan]

no seriously, because there is no clear defined timeline

[untold ingot]

Samurai is a social class in Japanese culture. Ark doesn't really have culture in it, so it wouldn't really fit lol

[south lance]

samurai are so much closer to the modern day than primitives

[mint swan]

its future mixed with past similar to fallout, you could fit japanese culture into this

[tropic crag]

Get blocked troll

[winged dome]

Guarantee if government collapses, those weirdo people with trenchcoats and 50+ prop swords hanging on their wall will call themselves samurai 😂

[stray elm]

Nah, I don't they should.
Cause you'd be a laughing stock if you told a 2000's Asian clone that you're a Samurai.

[winged dome]

Hell, they do now

[stray elm]

'That's the point'

[mint swan]

Yeah but you snipers shooting dinosaurs, and spears. Clearly all cultures are on the table

[south lance]

samurai only exist in the point well after we advance through nomadic tribes

[untold ingot]

Technology and tools =/= culture lol

[south lance]

japan had them until like the 1700s

[mint swan]

exactly

[stray elm]

But samurai's?
Nah, you'd be a 'LaUgHiNgsTooCk'

[mint swan]

you could technically fit any theme in ark 2, i hope they even explore ww1/ww2 weapons

[south lance]

i want no modernity

the whole point is that you have a bronze age type civ crop up

[mint swan]

mp45 vs dino would be fun tho

[south lance]

you had your modern guns in ark1

[stray elm]

Nah, but you see.
You tell a clone of a WW1 soldier that you're now a soldier just cause you have their equipment, and you'll be a laughingstock.

[south lance]

go use an AR

[mint swan]

Yeah but everything is progression

just like how u start with a spear, transition to a bow, then a gun

[south lance]

the point of ark2 is that progress is extremely limited

[stray elm]

Tell that to ARK-2, where they reverted back to the stone-age.

[south lance]

otherwise youd ignore the prim aspect entirely

[mint swan]

transition from samurai kitana, to mp45, to Ak47 or something

[south lance]

and ark2 is some ultra futuristic crap

further along than even star wars perhaps

[stray elm]

Oh hell no.

Star-Wars is still even more 'LITERAL' space magic then ARK has

[south lance]

itd be easier to make the lore justify that lol

[mint swan]

Nah they had aliens in the trailer, so extra terrestrial weapons confirmed

probably laser guns etc like fallout 3

[stray elm]

Those are the natives?
Which where also in a stone-age

[mint swan]

so they say

[south lance]

idk, element quantum particles that allow you to force choke ppl if you bond with the universal element god or whatever

[stray elm]

They also confirmed 'no usable tek' in ARK-2

[mint swan]

it was very vague the background of the natives

[stray elm]

Some shit like that, yeah.

[south lance]

yes natives adorned in skeleton armor are gonna have lasers

[mint swan]

thats the beauty of ark bro, anything is on the table

im super excited

[stray elm]

Not when Wildcard themselves have flat out stated "No usable tek in ARK-2"

[south lance]

and thats why they gave chase to santiago instead of just shooting him, and the rex for that matter

[mint swan]

yet we have jetpacks in ark 1

[south lance]

because they are different worlds

[mint swan]

cmon we know they arent sticking with this claim

[stray elm]

'From tek'

[south lance]

literally