ark-2

[tropic forge]

thats the only logic for a move like this, no company makes a remaster/remake while doing a brand new game whit delay already

[lime forge]

Oi. You owe me a name change. We had a bet fair and square. Don’t avoid the topic.

[tropic forge]

guess you dint notice i stop talking to you since you mention you wanted yo make a bet right? too old for that sorry

[lime forge]

I asked if you wanted to bet and you said sure

Kids these days man I stg

[mild hatch]

any news on A2 being FPV or still just 3rd PV?

[tropic crag]

Good man 🤝

[thick moat]

It's still 3rd person

[mild hatch]

@thick moat Ahh cheers, well thats "poop" then 😦

[split dove]

so already judging third person only without seeing it's in game gameplay look again? who knows, it might be implemented well and be immersive, yes third person only games can also be immersive if done right.

Also not trying a game simply bc it isn't first person is some of the dumbest things i've ever heard, you'd think we were used to third person with dinos in Ark 1, but i guess when everything is third person it's a deal breaker

[worldly garden]

👀

[tropic crag]

You hate to see it

[tropic forge]

hope third view aint that crapping view behind the back and more to the right side like gears of war etc

[desert swallow]

I hope it's right behind the back of the head like when you are stuck behind someone tall at a concert.

[split dove]

[royal nebula]

The last of us is third person and that’s a pretty immersive game id say

[thick moat]

nothing beats 1st person though

I have a thing for the animations on 1st person, it feels satisfying

[iron sequoia]

Mhm 1st person is my preferred

[thick moat]

same, i won't mind 3rd though

[astral token]

Mods can re add 1st person

Mods will be all platform

[tropic forge]

gonna be funny if the game as moves from dark souls and be on 1st person, roll=puke 🤣

[split dove]

puking simulator

any first person mods quickly made within the first week will probably be bad camera swaps, compareable to quickly forcing something meant for TPO to FPO will always look worse than the TPO wich it was designed with in mind

[astral token]

Yea

Cameras will need to be positioned individually for the player and every dino

[split dove]

third person only also allows for better player animations.
The Ark 1 first person animations for players aren't the greatest 😅

[blissful perch]

Tbh that’s ok though. I’m down for a dope mod 2 years after ark 2 comes out that adds first person if that’s what people want to make

There’s tons of amazing mods for ark 1 that are impressive but very clearly never stuff that’s going into vanilla, and I’m about it

[astral token]

Make that “there’s” to “there won’t be”

UE5 port moment

[blissful perch]

It depends on how it’s done. The UE5 port could be a launch setting or “free” DLC rather than a forced transition. It also depends on how UE4/5 support is handled

[tight timber]

Could be they're releasing a UE5 remaster because ARK2 is getting further delayed 👀

[desert swallow]

could be, could also be to keep up hype until it's released later this year

[shut yarrow]

Ark 2
I want Dino armors
more water dinos and more varied water ecosystem - there is ton of land dinos, quite a few flyers but not many water dinos

3rd person is the new normal so I hope for more weapons - more types of melee mainly, wanna beat T-rex by myself

Also as there will be human NPCs I would like similar system from Conan Exiles, where you can enslave them and make them help you with crafting and stuff - like faster crafting or bonus stats

And the most important at the end - Fewer bugs and crashes, and if there are, fix them and do not leave them

I also wanna big Dodo that I can ride, not dodorex, normal dodo but bigger

[tight timber]

I hope they add more automation

[shut yarrow]

Dont want it
would bring too many bugs in my opinions

and if they do it i want it as either another game or DLC so we can still play normal one if we dont like UE5

[desert swallow]

That is for sure why they are doing 3rd person. More water dinos would be very cool, or atleast make water more "necessary" resources that can only be found in water.

[shut yarrow]

yeah, there are few water resources but not many

also if i could build underwater base
Hmm that would be nice and for PVP it would make it more interesting

dont play PVP tho

[lavish timber]

Since defo no scuba

[desert swallow]

why no scuba? They could come out with a "primitive" version

[astral token]

Straw pipes

[desert swallow]

or you get some sac from a creature like a gas bag

[astral token]

Diplocaulus

Honestly survivor sucking from diplocaulus if drawn realistically would be NSFW 💀

[desert swallow]

only because you're a level 7 pervert

[rain belfry]

Diplocaulus

[desert swallow]

would make one of the most useless creatures useful

[astral token]

I wouldn’t make such art in the 1st place

[desert swallow]

I was just teasing you

[astral token]

I know xD

Tho perverts are rampant in the ARK community it seems

Did u see the rapid rise of the Lion in the creature vote?

[desert swallow]

I have 69 of them in my conquest tribe

[astral token]

It was in exchange for Onlyfans subscriptions’ by a twitch th- streamer

[ripe cedar]

wtf are you guys talking about at this point

[desert swallow]

perverts mostly

[shut yarrow]

pushed from 2022 to 2023
Then I expect some announcement like June 23rd
then another going sorry we will not make it
new release date October 15th
releases and we gonna say - wish they made another delay

[astral token]

ngl 💀

[desert swallow]

How do you know all this stuff? you must be psychotic!

[split dove]

he probably thinks he could've done it faster, delays happen and people moaning about it isn't letting it come out any faster lol, also crunch hours are just bad practice as i'd rather have Wildcard be fully motivated and excited working on Ark 2

[desert swallow]

shred that keyboard

[ripe cedar]

Well they seem to know when they want to share gameplay now, or at least a general time since they are starting to build up to it with more frequent teasers. And its not like the ark team ever really shows off any super early stuff so if they are going to share gameplay “relatively” soon im guessing early access cant be that far off might still be past the june due date though

[split dove]

my exact thoughts as well

as long as it's still in 2023 it's good

[desert swallow]

Ya we're all hopeful, probably a reasonable prediction.

[tight timber]

Rather they delay it to 2024 if its not done than releasing a half-done game like most game companies do these days

[thick moat]

early acces ehem

[tight timber]

it still has to be playable

[ripe cedar]

Its an ark launch so probably not

At minimum servers will be at 200 ping

[tight timber]

Meh I'll just use my own server then with 10 ping

[thick moat]

obviously but we are referring to the content of the game aren't we

[ripe cedar]

Not saying that its impossible but they dont exactly have a great track record of good launches

[thick moat]

most companies today just release games half done without all the content, so that's what im getting from ur msg

[tight timber]

To be fair, many games have problems on launches

[split dove]

and those are ''full launch games'', at least Ark 2 is honest with it being Early Access

[thick moat]

yep

[tight timber]

That is true yes

I do hope it'll do good, I really want it to succeed.

[split dove]

pay $60 for the latest battlefield put out 1 year too early due to greedy publishers

[tight timber]

or cyberpunk, or avengers or..

It's sad

[split dove]

if they wanted to release a full game we'd probably have to wait 5 years longer

[tight timber]

Maybe. How long did ARK 1 take from going to full game? like 4-5 years?

[ripe cedar]

2 years early access

[thick moat]

one thing I really hope for them to get right this time is optimization and reducing bugs

[tight timber]

Really? felt like longer, tho my memory sucks

[ripe cedar]

3.5 if you count extinction as actually finished

[thick moat]

nah it still felt like an early acces after the release tbh

[tight timber]

yeah, the poor optimization has really made ark feel like crap

[ripe cedar]

But what does it taste like

[tight timber]

still awesome in many ways but yeah I hope they improve on that too

[thick moat]

if they optimize it well and have minor bugs it will paint a good picture of wildcard and people will gain trust with them

[tight timber]

yea

[ripe cedar]

Well we will see

Like we all know their track record is not all that great in those areas

[thick moat]

yes that's why I hope they have learnt

[split dove]

let's be honest: ark 1 was their first big project, Ark 2 will be their currently most funded project and the team is much more experienced and larger compared to when they made Ark 1's base foundation in 7 months, bundle that with some spaghetti code and ya got Ark 1. they hopefully made the base code over a longer time period and UE5 being easier to work with and i can see it being more optimized and less buggy

[desert swallow]

do we know how many devs from ark 1 are still with wild card. The lessons will be carried on by them not management.

architects, etc

[ripe cedar]

I’ll wait until we actually have it

Hypotheticals are fun and all but its not the actual game

[mint swan]

Ark 1 on Phone SUCKS

Like i said before i was deding more Times than being alive

[mint swan]

Well yeah its ark mobile lmao

[fallow niche]

Has nothing to do with Ark 2

[calm flint]

ARK 2 will not have a first-person mode and will be presented only from a third-person perspective. is this true?

[split dove]

yes, but that doesn't automaticly mean it will be bad

[mint swan]

oh no wonder you died lmao, but still dying doesn't make it bad

[calm flint]

they dropped L

[split dove]

let me guess, you won't get it bc of third person only? Third person only can also look good, so i'd keep your final opinion open until gameplay is shown, it isn't the end of the world without first person lol.
it's also being built with third person only in mind, and i highly doubt the delay is to change to first person bc nobody knew it would be TPO until the teaser with the delay and the steam page being shared on the same day, so that dumb argument falls flat as well 😂.

But hey, you and the others in the minority that won't play something bc off the camera angle can still play it in first person if you use mods that are just quick camera swaps

[bold juniper]

That’s what I’m sayin

[untold ingot]

I mean the fewer people who play ark2, the more chance there is for me to be alpha lol

[past wind]

You talk like a beach bob.

[mint swan]

What engine will ark 2 be on?

[thick moat]

Unreal Engine 5

[limpid hull]

release it faster plx all the games out there now sucks

[split dove]

so you want a rushed product that will suck? even it were thrown out to meet a target date you'd probably still complain that it would be buggy and unoptimized. simply put: you can't rush good games

[blissful perch]

It’s the classic triangle of time vs content vs polish. You can only pick 2

Ark 1 imo chose content and time, and I’m content if ark 2 chooses content and polish

[split dove]

same, i'd rather have better polish and content than ''toss something new out every 1-2 weeks''

[blissful perch]

I’m flexible, but I want to see the time be well spent

If I’m waiting ages for a return to a buggy and poor QC product it’s gonna sting

[ionic meteor]

For me I think its going to be time and polish, I dont expect ARK 2 to have like 200 dinos or whatever on launch

They're gonna go the same path as ARK 1 did by adding more dinos as the games progresses through early access period

[blissful perch]

Valid take tbh

[split dove]

nothing wrong with that, it will need to be more polished than Ark 1 anyway and new creatures keep us invested longer

[ionic meteor]

Quality over quantity is better imo

[ionic meteor]

As a person who hasn't experienced getting a dino every week or month during early access back then, I'm excited to live that experience with ARK 2

[past wind]

I don’t think it will be the case, and that’s a good thing. I was playing ark 1 on its release day, it was a mess, you won’t want that. Multiple updates in a day isn’t ideal to play. 🤣

[tropic forge]

hope they have kibble cause i dont wanna spend 7hours taming a dino 🤣

[past wind]

Ark 1 took six months to be released in early-access. It won’t be the case for Ark 2. Hence why I don’t believe they will update it as much as they did back then.

[tropic forge]

multpiles upates werent a problem, the rubberband and crash whit rollbacks now that was a big problem

[split dove]

thank god the base code for Ark 2 will hopefully at least take longer to make than the 6 months base code for Ark 1

[past wind]

Putting things into perspective, Ark 2 is a work of more than 8 years (counting Ark 1).

They are experienced devs. I mean, if you look Atlas, it didn’t have all the issues we have on Ark 1.

Like the mesh holes, for example.

[split dove]

it was ultimately what they originally wanted Ark 1 to be as well, but didn't have the knowledge, experience and resources back then during Ark 1's initial early access launch to make it a good reality

[past wind]

Also the players PCs and consoles were a lot weaker than today.

[split dove]

yup, i'm glad older tech won't hinder Ark 2

[ionic meteor]

Not the bugginess obviously lol, but I meant the constant flow of new dinos ig 😅

[ionic meteor]

I'm just gonna ignore officialls and go for unofficial, its way more fun and.. mods

I hope updates are gonna be significantly smaller in size

[tropic forge]

dont like unofficial, the idea im at the mercy of someone's in control of the server dosent go well plus its more likely the server be isolate no transfers

[ionic meteor]

fair enough, also in unofficial theres a chance the server might shutdown which happened to me once when I left a server and decided to go back.. to nothing

[tropic forge]

that really depends on whats being patch really

[ionic meteor]

Yeah definitely a better code, and with a better code we get smaller update sizes I believe? idk I'm not a gameplay programmer to know if thats related 🤔

[split dove]

for file/update size it's all down to how good it's optimized iirc, just my guess as we're both not experts on that field

[prisma pike]

They should learn from the mfs that made jurassic world Evo 2

That shits like 9 gigs only

Like how bro

[split dove]

how

[ionic meteor]

Ohh yes optimization, which unreal engine 5 is good at I think

[prisma pike]

Just looked it's 8 gigs lmao

[ionic meteor]

Yep I played that and it's incredible! had a lot of dinos to play with and still less than 10 GBs

still amazes me till this day

[split dove]

likely due to it being more optimized and not needing giant super detailed maps like Ark, as it's basicly a decently detailed park builder map you place structures and creatures on

[ionic meteor]

Yeah its waayy simpler and less complex

[mint swan]

Many people on Playstation use keyboard mouse?

[split dove]

probably a super small minority

[mighty lion]

I just want a companion app in ark 2

[mortal kestrel]

hiding here while general goes up in flames

i wonder if we will get a creature that can blow stuff up in ArkII

would be lit

no pun intended

[iron sequoia]

Dinos that just explode
Like creepers

[mighty lion]

Did anyone ever figure out you can soak player only turrets with a magmasaur? No shots required

[mortal kestrel]

it could be done by having the creature fire a combustible gas of some sort

then give them an internal lighting mechanism, or a different gas that reacts with the first one, to create explosions

kind of like the hideous zippleback from how to train your dragon

[fallow niche]

Make sure to keep this channel relevant to Ark 2.

[iron sequoia]

Simple way would be new element corruption type
Time has made it volatile and will cause dinos to explode when damaged or aggravated

[mighty lion]

High doubt there will be corrupt dinos

[iron sequoia]

just speculation and suggestions
Tbh that kinda stuff would have been cool on extinction now that I think about it ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[mighty lion]

I'm down for a shoulder pet size creature that fires something destructive

[mortal kestrel]

I doubt there wouldnt be, in some shape or form

element is arks main antagonistic force after all

[blissful perch]

pretty major update for ark 1 addresses a common ark 2 concern. I mention as much: comment deleted. I won't retype but I'm not sure what policy I violated

[mortal kestrel]

uh what

[mighty lion]

No tek might mean no more element

[blissful perch]

dw, carry on

[mortal kestrel]

probably because it wasnt relevant to arkII

[mortal kestrel]

that is incorrect

[blissful perch]

it was directly relevant in my message but again, nbd

[mortal kestrel]

idk

[iron sequoia]

Tek was still on the ring that crashed so tek still there

[mortal kestrel]

yeah

[blissful perch]

I think element in the form of ark 1's element is gone

we may see dust tho as a rare crafting material or mission item

[mortal kestrel]

yeah, but element still exists

its kinda everywhere

literally

[blissful perch]

doesn't mean it'll be used in any form of crafting

[mighty lion]

Dont get me wrong, I'd love there to still be tek and element. That's just not what it sounds like from the devs. Atleast not on release

[blissful perch]

I'm gonna be pissed if tek comes back at any time in ark 2's lifespan

I pray WC can keep the game's power scaling curve reasonable

[tropic forge]

tek armor can be left behind but skiff....

[mighty lion]

Qol tek is something I'd like to see return, I will say the tek rifle and mek had too many exploits for my liking

[tropic forge]

tek bow was way op but for pve it felt good the ability to tranq dinos whit shards alone no need to make tranq arrows or darts

[blissful perch]

the skiff is probably the single most critical tek thing to remove

behind maybe the tek chest

[tropic forge]

but yeh in the begining the very least will be kinda like island butno tek engrams so no tek there

but but i love my mobile home 😭

skiff was the only opportunity i had to ever use a minigun turret, kill a alfacrystal wyvern whit that 🤣

[mighty lion]

In qol of life terms, skiff, teleporter and cryos are things I hope to see some substitute for eventually

[tropic forge]

i do hope they cut off anything like a cloner or at least make it a unique structure so can only be one per tribe, those things on pve can go messy really fast whit dumb ppl

[blissful perch]

I hope the tame manager renders cryos entirely obsolete

[mighty lion]

Hmm maybe the modular building will help with this

Like an outpost you can build to transfer your tames from the main base

[blissful perch]

i'm flexible. I just want the pokeball stuff removed

[untold ingot]

I dont know lol. I dont ever want to see portable cryos again lol

[split dove]

if i wanted to play Pokemon, i'd play pokemon with dinosaur esc pokemons lol

[untold totem]

i cant wait for the real ARK 2 antagonist

the common cold

[mighty lion]

Idk, I doubt you could find a better qol improvement atleast in Ark 1

[untold ingot]

Sure you can. A standalone structure that can upload dinos not in use. If you need more than one dino at a time, then the game wasnt designed very well imo. For a raid, you should have to bring an army with you (making supply lines actually important) rather than just instantly building a massive fob with dozens of tames in it

[mighty lion]

I meant in terms of ark 1.

In terms of more than 1 dinos, dinos abilities having unique and important roles is a major part of ark

I'd hate to see that go

[untold ingot]

I don't think it'll go, but I don't want having 6 cryoed dinos in hand or upload something necessary to play

[untold totem]

never in ARK 2

[split dove]

joined the discord just to cry about inis being removed? lmao this shit is pure comedic perfection

[untold totem]

IKR

[split dove]

i think i'm stocked up for 2 weeks with just tonight

[thick moat]

im enjoying seeing all these tears

[split dove]

it's really rehydrating my comedic reserves, i think i'm stacked up for a month

[untold totem]

a lesson learned for ARK 2

give just the accessibility options and Low Memory Mode

no more Visual INI

[split dove]

only things you should be able to change are graphical settings, not ini files that remove like 90% of the objects to find someone on pvp. view distance shouldn't be changeable as well

[untold totem]

i dont mind the slow down of light effects to prevent visual sensitivity

i mean view distance is already as an option

plus filmmakers like Ned use FOV religiously

[split dove]

people on pvp can also just put view distance on low and it basicly does the same as ini

[untold totem]

i dont mind for the view distance to be adjustable

[split dove]

same, but it shouldn't be as changeable to Ark 1 low view distance

[untold totem]

Orbit Camera/K Mode however should not be meshed like Conan does

tbh we need "spectator mode+" to access good stuff like NVidia Ansel, meshable Orbit Cam, and Extreme View Distance Adjustment

[stray juniper]

imagine people use ini on the beauty of UE5 Lmao

[split dove]

knowing the ark pvp community, they will try to find a way to get the smallest advantage

[thick moat]

we have nvidia ansel

unless u are talking abt ark 2

[untold totem]

ye but for SP only not MP

[burnt socket]

What date does it come out?

[rugged coral]

Does Snail games have rights/ control over Ark 2?

[split dove]

iirc they're mostly just involved with publishing the game, they bought Ark and wildcard during the lawsuit early on in Arks life. so msotly just control over the publishing, but they wanted to add microtransactions to ark 1, but the devs heavily protested to add any microtransactions/nfts to the Ark series whilst they're still around. so mostly just control over it's publishing

[mighty lion]

Essentially wildcard is one of their subsidiaries

[split dove]

and only Ark is really making money compared to all the Snail games lol, hard to have your main money makers to be made if you won't let them make it without forcing them to add microtransactions/nfts into the game design

[mighty lion]

I read somewhere that they chose to write off their existing non-ark ips. That might be speculation though because not much actual info is out there

I think cosmetic microtransactions are fine as long as there is a way to farm them out without currency

[untold totem]

nah i prefer the DLC way

at least we can get more content from just a limited time skin that lures FOMO sensitive players with crippling shopping addiction (i.e.: me)

i remember WC goes on a strike if MTX are in ARK 1

i hope it keeps it that way, no more bowing down to the greedy overlords

and last time i checked they are actually well off, financially

like c'mon they can afford Vin Diesel and David Tennent as VA

[rugged coral]

I only just recently found out about the Snail games controversy and it was quite scary

[untold totem]

it is

[rugged coral]

just hope they don't ruin ark 2 with their bs

[untold totem]

i am leaning to doubt until WC do something about it like one dev actually left their publisher and they are still fine

[split dove]

''Lots of creative interpretations going on, here! NFTs and crypto in ARK and ARK 2 will never happen on our watch and are not in the plans at all''

be happy Wildcard ain't EA, they would've added it in a heartbeat for some quick cash from crypto/nft bros

[rugged coral]

Publishers seem like relics of the past

[untold totem]

tbh they are needed Devolver Digital is a publisher, not a dev

and that is the only few good publisher i can find

at least it's no Nintendo like jeeeeez

[split dove]

🪦

this night was hilarious, now i'm off again

[mighty lion]

The interfering in gameplay controversy or something else?

[untold totem]

something something megatribe favoritism

[lavish rain]

Lols

[mighty lion]

Seems like a conspiracy theory to me

But we'll see

[rugged coral]

Well, as a publisher, if they've "bought out wildcard," that gives Snail games a lot of control. They can do horrible things to these devs to force them to make ark 2 how snail games wants

[past wind]

I thought the same...

[mighty lion]

Havent they owned wildcard for years?

[past wind]

since 2016

[mighty lion]

1 year after Arks release? Rag wasnt even out yet

[rugged coral]

Rag was firmly in development, I'm not sure what your point is

[past wind]

The point is they own WC since the beginning

[mighty lion]

^

[rugged coral]

During a games launch month, it makes roughly 80% of the profit it ever will. This has become less true over the last 5~ years, but concern about ark 2's launch when their publisher is very clearly corrupt is quite justified

as there is hundreds of millions of dollars on the table

[past wind]

I wouldn't say very clearly 😂

[glossy ermine]

well they want to Tackle the rmd side of the game. why should other people get Profit "they themselfs can make"

[past wind]

I'm not sure anything have happened. Not everything on youtube is trustable.

[desert swallow]

who would go on the internet and just tell lies?

[mighty lion]

I'm pretty sure they sold alot of dlcs between now and then. I've havent seen an overtly shady things

[glossy ermine]

its talks about adding Nfts into the other game if they get their way

[past wind]

What? Lots of people. 😂

People lie on the internet all the time

[rugged coral]

Lies are easy to spot, as they have no evidence and often aren't corroborated. But when thousands of people independently come forward, with evidence and no link to each other, all saying similar things, it would be supremely arrogant to dismiss all of them as lying.

[split dove]

LoadedOuthouse

[past wind]

I'm sorry, but the evidence isn't good IMO

I've seen all the videos and I'm not convinced

[split dove]

"it must be delayed to next year bc steam changed dates from just 2023 games to coming soon"

[fallow niche]

Make sure to check the pinned messages here as well, to go ahead and just discount the clickbaity YT content.

[past wind]

See, but people will say the evidence is good

[viscid sable]

I like the new stego art

[fallow niche]

The concept art so far is fucking beautiful

[past wind]

It's the new Meta

Spikes everywhere

[viscid sable]

Sick as hell

[split dove]

Thick chin ads 20% dmg reduction lol

[past wind]

I want to see more concepts, I liked everything so far

[fallow niche]

Right

[rugged coral]

I'm excited for the improved combat, what we have now in ark is servicable but there's not a great deal of depth to a lot of it

[split dove]

More concept art and tidbits leading up to the gameplay is a nice rough time-line and kinda reassuring that it could still be out this year

[mighty lion]

What dinos do you they they'll show next? I'm betting a ptera

[rugged coral]

Dilo

[split dove]

Cookie clicker combat

[past wind]

Rexy

[desert swallow]

trilobite

[split dove]

Dodo

[rugged coral]

A singular iguana

[past wind]

Giganotosaurus

[split dove]

Spinosaurus

[desert swallow]

that would be cool

Always liked the spino\

[split dove]

Can't wait to see what the spino will look like

[past wind]

unfortunately it became useless

[desert swallow]

Heard the new therizino looks like the one from the most recent jurassic park movie

[past wind]

You mean Jurassic World? What's the difference from the theri we already have on ark?

[mighty lion]

It can shove its hands through dino necks

And doesnt understand it's a vegetarian

[desert swallow]

ya it's a complete a-hole like in ark 1

[split dove]

It was also blind in the movie, using echolocation

[desert swallow]

it looked absolutely ridiculous.

[subtle compass]

Will I really be able to play Ark2 this year?

[desert swallow]

do you believe?

[tropic forge]

they better show a reaper concept that would made me happy 🤣

[rancid harness]

I believe.

[desert swallow]

stop trying to play it and play it!

[rancid harness]

Aaaaaaaahhhhh!

[desert swallow]

was your comment removed by a bot?

[rancid harness]

Ye

It was in all caps

[desert swallow]

lol

[rancid harness]

The second ark2 is playable tho

I'm taking 2 months off work and ignoring all my social connections

[desert swallow]

make that 2 years

[astral token]

💀

[rancid harness]

Hey man if my youtube channel takes off (because I'll be doing content creation for Ark while playing it) then maybe I WILL take 2 years off lol

[astral token]

🙏

[rancid harness]

🙏

[mighty lion]

Best to wait till the release date to schedule any time off

[rancid harness]

All I need is 2 weeks notice lol.

[mighty lion]

Lol

With wildcards track record itll there will be a date announced a few months before release, then another saying the release was delayed another month, then one saying an another week. Then the build didnt ship in time, so its 2 more days

[mint swan]

dude i also want to do content for ark 2 when it comes out

[rancid harness]

What are your strengths?

[mint swan]

im a chaotic ass mf and im pretty decent at pvp stuff

[rancid harness]

Do you have any content creation experience/portfolio?

[mint swan]

a little but not extensive it would be my first deep dive into it really

[rancid harness]

Gotcha.

Maybe we'll cross paths lol

[mint swan]

maybe who knows

but rn I'm excited for a game

the game

[rancid harness]

I am so inexplicably excited for Ark2

Frick dude

I've done a cinematic for my content creation alias, done two remixes of the main theme, and am currently gathering assets for specifically tutorial-style content creation

[astral token]

Nice nice good luck

Maybe also link it to ur discord and ur bio to get exposure?

[mint swan]

im also really excited to play the game

[rancid harness]

Good call, whoops

Thanks aroy

[mint swan]

Pls just bring out a beta for top players 😔

I need to see it

[untold ingot]

The issue would be that it's very hard to determine the top players lol. Usually when they do something like that it means the want marketing, so top players would be youtubers. And I think any actually good player would contest that heavily lol

In either case, the whole release with be early access, so basically a beta

[tough bolt]

Bro brachiosaurus looks so sick in ARK2

I hope they'll show the T-rex soon

[untold ingot]

It's in one of the trailers, you can see it live lol

[mighty lion]

The anky looks difficult to ride

[tough bolt]

Yeah yeah but...

You know lollll

I'm stupid forgive me :/

[prisma pike]

Anything is rideable if you're brave enough

[wanton thistle]

Is it confirmed that Ark II wont come to ps5?

Like ever? Wouldnt mind if it released for playstation few months later tbh

[prisma pike]

Not confirmed

[wanton thistle]

so there is a chance

[winged dome]

Highly unlikely it will never come to PS

[wanton thistle]

[tough bolt]

It will

I think

[mighty lion]

If by a few months you mean 12 to 24 months after release, then probably. Depends on the exclusivity period

[scenic siren]

There are 2 mods on ark the primitive and the normal with tek , dont hate if ark2 is the same because you can see the top players playing normal, very few likes without tek and turrets

[blissful perch]

Hmm if they released a beta to folks based on player skill in ark 2 (since the game is entirely different and uses different skill sets from ark 1) you’d likely be the last one to get a copy

[blissful perch]

Also the somehow mind blowing reality that top players are likely not always the best beta testers

Top players define the meta and help you find balance exploits…but if you’re hunting for bugs or designing solutions they usually don’t do a good job

[untold ingot]

Now there is a novel idea lol

[torn mica]

i gotta see ark 2 spino if all the designs be looking that different
also hope we finally get to ceratosaurus in the game too with the new dinos being added that were not in ark 1

[untold ingot]

Ark2 spino is a confirmed shoulder pet though

[elfin pumice]

Wait what? I heard of it being a living pistol like in that high on life game

[untold ingot]

Could be that too

Spits water and sand

[ripe cedar]

Its early access the beta test is the initial launch

[blissful perch]

The term “beta” isn’t really the same for everyone. For some, a beta means a game that’s feature complete but needs polish. For others it means a product that’s got the full core functionality and gameplay loop but is missing content

I agree early access is very similar to beta testing in some ways, but in other ways it’s kinda different from the old beta testing way of doing things

[thick moat]

For me EA is more so a between of alpha and beta, beta is a version that needs some adjustments and is pretty much ready for release imo

[ripe cedar]

Really depends on whos doing the early access and what type of game it is in the first place

[tropic crag]

It does help that there are hard definitions and criteria for these things 😂

Tf? Discord trippin lately

[desert swallow]

"Beta, named after the second letter of the Greek alphabet, is the software development phase following alpha. Software in the beta stage is also known as beta ware.[7] A beta phase generally begins when the software is feature complete but likely to contain several known or unknown bugs.[8] Software in the beta phase will generally have many more bugs in it than completed software and speed or performance issues, and may still cause crashes or data loss. The focus of beta testing is reducing impacts on users, often incorporating usability testing. The process of delivering a beta version to the users is called beta release and is typically the first time that the software is available outside of the organization that developed it. Software beta releases can be either open or closed, depending on whether they are openly available or only available to a limited audience. Beta version software is often useful for demonstrations and previews within an organization and to prospective customers. Some developers refer to this stage as a preview, preview release, prototype, technical preview or technology preview (TP),[9] or early access."

We've been doing softare development for almost 80 years now. We have definitions for these things.

[blissful perch]

Ok so what about feature incomplete early access releases. Which is what gaming currently resembles in large part because we moved away from static releases and towards games as service models that often expect development post release

[desert swallow]

"The alpha phase of the release life cycle is the first phase of software testing (alpha is the first letter of the Greek alphabet, used as the number 1). In this phase, developers generally test the software using white-box techniques. Additional validation is then performed using black-box or gray-box techniques, by another testing team. Moving to black-box testing inside the organization is known as alpha release.[1][2]

Alpha software is not thoroughly tested by the developer before it is released to customers. Alpha software may contain serious errors, and any resulting instability could cause crashes or data loss.[3] Alpha software may not contain all of the features that are planned for the final version.[4] In general, external availability of alpha software is uncommon in proprietary software, while open source software often has publicly available alpha versions. The alpha phase usually ends with a feature freeze, indicating that no more features will be added to the software. At this time, the software is said to be feature complete. A beta test is carried out following acceptance testing at the supplier's site (alpha test) and immediately before the general release of the software as a product.[5]"

It could also be that a developer is just underhanded and dishonest and calling something a beta that's not yet ready to be called a beta

They should be downvoted into oblivion on platforms like Steam

[blissful perch]

I don’t see why if they’re honest about the game state being less complete

[desert swallow]

Then it's an alpha release

[blissful perch]

It’s all called “early access” though. And it’s treated the same on steam

[desert swallow]

ya not a good practice. Too many games get abandoned at that stage too.

Was responding to "We don't have definitions for these things". We do. Greed can make people ignore these things and it would be next to impossible to ensure every product is "feature complete" on platform. Without early access people would just release a game incomplete and promise updates later.

[blissful perch]

We don’t have working lay definitions for them given how functionally the terms are blended in common speak

[desert swallow]

I think the problem you are trying to solve isn't going to be solved by a definition. If a platform says you can release without being complete you can end up with software on the platform at any phase of development.

[blissful perch]

It’s a fine practice. It’s interesting because it’s a very real demonstration of capital investment in action. Not every product is going to be a superstar and not every product is going to deliver on all promises…it’s a great way to observe real market risk lol

[desert swallow]

People need to vote with their wallet and reviews to police these bad practices.

[blissful perch]

I didn’t really mention a problem beyond the issue that people conflate feature complete and incomplete games as the same thing of “early access”. Maybe steam can fix it by having two different bins for traditionally alpha or beta released games

[desert swallow]

Sure I was speaking generally

not you necessarily

[blissful perch]

They do, just badly. It’s “new” for people to have access to an entire scope of wildly ranging products in terms of completeness and honesty

[desert swallow]

I got the first early access game ever on Steam called "Towns"

when it released years and years ago. It was abandoned

[blissful perch]

It’s the way of the world imo that not everything is a hit

[desert swallow]

it was a hit, they took the money and ran

[blissful perch]

And ofc even the greatest ideas can be stifled by bad dev teams or unlucky circumstances (I’ve observed some great games not get complete cause the lead dev died for example)

[desert swallow]

never finished it

Just was a sign of things to come is what I'm getting at

[blissful perch]

Fraud is a risk you pay for buying into early access imo

The less content there is, the more risky the purchase

Early access has games which are blatant fraud scenes and games like ark (often made possible by the funds early access brings in)…I think it’s a major net positive as gaming moves away from AAA and towards more creative projects

[tropic crag]

For the record, I wasn't being sarcastic. If I was, there would've been a tone indicator (like so, "/s") 😅

[blissful perch]

I wasn’t either

I was the one insinuating we lack working definitions

[tropic crag]

But... we do. These definitions are definitely what I would use, and would expect anyone else to use

[blissful perch]

We really don’t because of steam early access blurring the lines

[tropic crag]

Steam's definition of early access is archaic and unique to them, though 😂

Hardly a definition I'd use for the whole of the industry

[blissful perch]

It defines how gamers talk about the process, so I’d say it’s pretty important

[tropic crag]

I play on Steam, and don't conform to their idea of early access. I'd also bet that most (if not all) players from other platforms would disagree with Steam's definition as well

[blissful perch]

Their idea of early access is extremely ill defined so it’s hardly a question of conformity. The truth is people don’t seem to be able to differentiate a feature complete beta from an alpha build of a game, and imo early access is partly to blame (since it lumps everything into one label)

[tropic crag]

It's not like everyone who's ever played a videogame has played it on Steam and had to read their definition of early access lol

[tropic crag]

Skill issue on their part, doesn't change the fact that we have hard definitions

In the slightest

[blissful perch]

I’m gonna guess almost nobody sits down and reads steam’s definition of early access lol, they just see games all the way from alphas to final products labeled as “early access” and go from there

If a hard definition fails to describe something, it matters 😂

Observe the phenomenon of “connotations”

[tropic crag]

Eh, I'd still hardly put it on the fault of the definitions that they're not all-encompassing, that's not their point

[blissful perch]

The fault is on steam for not splitting early access into alpha and beta categories

[tropic crag]

If something is an exception to the rule, or bends the definition, that's exactly that; an exception

And we shouldn't drop the definitions just for exceptions yet to be defined

That'd be silly

[blissful perch]

But the reality is that gaming is no longer in concrete alpha -> beta -> release development for almost anything anymore

[tropic crag]

How so? It's pretty much still that way in any field of game design I've observed 😅

Again, exceptions to the rule exist, but by no means are they the new rule

[blissful perch]

Most early access games I’ve seen are feature incomplete betas

New underlying systems and features are added over the course of the beta, but everything must be polished so crashes are minimized and graphics aren’t white/black box.

[tropic crag]

That's just a beta, then

Or alpha, rather

As Jordan stated

[blissful perch]

Your confusion kinda proves my point

And ofc what I said above combines both definitions

[tropic crag]

It wasn't true confusion, I literally just mistyped

[blissful perch]

Alphas are feature incomplete and lack a lot of key stability. Betas are feature complete and are missing final polish

This new style of development combines the two by offering greater stability sooner in the process but having to build features while in the “beta” state

[steel wharf]

i think this is the most asked question but iam still gonna ask it.

When is Ark 2 coming

[split dove]

still just this year, now get out

[steel wharf]

hahaahah

i cant wait pff

[split dove]

at least they're gonna share more concept art and tidbits about Ark 2 before the gameplay trailer with a possible date

[steel wharf]

i thought i saw a topic where they said it will be released in June

[tropic crag]

That's still just an alpha then, by definition. I don't think I'm pickin up what yer puttin down, so to speak

[blissful perch]

So you’re saying that alphas are defined solely by their feature completeness?

[lavish rain]

When

I'll pay them 1 grand for 2 concept arts

Or, free deer meat

[blissful perch]

Because the second paragraph of this implies a certain lack of stability is part and parcel of an alpha, which we do NOT see in most current public games that are in early access

[tropic crag]

"The alpha phase usually ends with a feature freeze, indicating that no more features will be added to the software. At this time, the software is said to be feature complete."

[tropic crag]

It doesn't have to be lacking stability, though? Nowhere does it outright state that it has to be

[blissful perch]

So beta is entirely ignored at that logic? Since most EA game’s final update of 1.0 adds features

[blissful perch]

The logic here

[tropic crag]

Nowhere is it stated that a game has to have a beta phase, right?

Another exception to the rules, albeit a rather common one these days, I'll admit

[lavish rain]

Which, at that point, it us no longer a rule

[desert swallow]

Companies pull this stuff because they get away with it and we let them.

[blissful perch]

And what of “released” games that add content or features post 1.0? Were they secretly in beta?

[blissful perch]

Hmm by that logic every game that adds features after 1.0 is a beta. I’m not sure that’s an accurate take on the games as service model

[desert swallow]

No that's expanded. Features should be laid out in promotional material.

[blissful perch]

I’d say for example that WoW is a finished game. But it gets more features because it operates as an ongoing project (a game as service)

[desert swallow]

expansions

[tropic crag]

Yeah, those are expansions

[blissful perch]

So if I offered an expansion’s worth of features/content for free as an update instead of a DLC would that mean the game was in beta?

[desert swallow]

not if your current game has all the features advertised on release.

and you've met them, a free update would be an expansion

[tropic crag]

No? That'd just be a free expansion

[desert swallow]

no mans sky is doing this

[blissful perch]

What if advertised features are not all met but the game is classified as complete? A fairly normal process if an advertised feature is found to be infeasible or ineffective

[desert swallow]

then don't buy the f'ing game then. Jesus

[tropic crag]

You're just going into semantics, now lol

[desert swallow]

what if the game is complete but we got sucked into a parallel dimension where it has a different feature set. hmnmmm what about that?

[blissful perch]

Probably a beta tbh. Not feature complete as advertised

[desert swallow]

But what if the parallel dimension doesn't have a definition of beta?

[tropic crag]

🤣

@split dove , bring the popcorn

🍿

[split dove]

🍿 ☕

[blissful perch]

I’d use the lack of definition we have in this dimension probably and say beta is loosely defined as an incomplete product as specified by a development studio

[split dove]

gonna sip on my coffee as well

[mighty lion]

Tbh it depends on how broad the term feature is. Such as Multiplayer is a feature, not a new map is simply an addition to said feature. The difference is a feature would be a subsection in a software development description, but the addition would be a sentence, paragraph, or a table entry.

[bold juniper]

[blissful perch]

Agreed. And not everyone agrees on what constitutes a feature (versus content)

[tropic crag]

But I think we can all agree that the definitions here take precedence over whatever hare-brained ideas of "early access" and "beta" and the like that some random person thinks up, eh? Let alone based upon Steam's archaic cataloguing systems 😂

[blissful perch]

I think we can agree all definitions are pointless because games are no longer developed in a single clear cut fashion for sure

[tropic crag]

🤦‍♂️

[desert swallow]

We have standards for everything, not everyone follows them, those that don't usually suffer in quality and do poorly in market share or end up with legal issues down the road. That's not just game related, that's pretty much true for all industries.

But just because someone deviates from a definition or standard doesn't nullify it.

[blissful perch]

And like many things, standards change over time. Much like they have for game development

They may be need for some new definitions that better describe the process shift from the early 2000’s to now

[desert swallow]

But they are still standards. And standards aren't changed by one person saying so. The software development lifecycle has not changed, even with the introduction of agile, at it's core it's still the same.

[blissful perch]

The core has dramatically changed

Games have almost wholly shifted away from one and done development and towards games as services

[desert swallow]

most software has, but it's still bound by releases

same life cycle as they were doing in the 2000's

[blissful perch]

Not really. Closed door one and done releases are largely dead beyond a few AAA products

[desert swallow]

even in the 90's software was updated, much slower, but it still was a thing

[blissful perch]

The life cycle of a game no longer ending on release is a pretty major change to lifecycle

[blissful perch]

If you mean DLC disks adding bug fixes I’m not sure I agree

[desert swallow]

You could download a patch off the website too

[blissful perch]

Because that’s my primary 90’s-2000’s experience with most post launch changes (if there were any)

[desert swallow]

I was there as well.

[blissful perch]

Clearly. I doubt someone young would say this

[tropic crag]

I remember having to download patches for Neverwinter Nights, it wasn't any different than today, tbh. It's just more streamlined

[desert swallow]

Counter strike, ultima online

half life had patches

[blissful perch]

Unless I’m crazy, those first two were games as service, as was half life because it had official servers at the time

Could be confusing half life 1 and 2 tho

[desert swallow]

I remember patching my parents business program for their business.

oh corel draw has a fatal error that was patched

specifically remember that one

[tropic crag]

Wait, wouldn't this completely invalidate what you said here? As those types of games (as a service) were what you'd described as a major change? But if this has been the way it was the whole time...

[blissful perch]

It’s not like someone flicked a switch and instantly changed how games were made

Transitional products bridged games like pong (which we all agree are one and done games) and what we see today

[desert swallow]

This mans a genius. I'm out.

[tropic crag]

Yes, but it's always been this way, software changes and is updated all the time. Hell, Half-Life and other such older games still get updates

[blissful perch]

I’ve never seen a pong patch

[tropic crag]

Doesn't mean it doesn't exist

And now we've reached our conclusion, thanks everyone for coming to the play, hope you had a good time

🙇‍♂️

[rancid harness]

I reject your reality and substitute ark 2

[past wind]

That guy on YouTube that’s converting and testing Ark 1 in UE5 posted a new video.

One thing I liked is how snow builds on the ground, instead of just textures.

[wintry urchin]

Bro is doing God's work

[desert swallow]

Bro is doing Wildcard's work

[mighty lion]

Thought that was their lawyers in the current copyright case

[grim kestrel]

Curious what servers Wildcard is going to use cause they did say they weren't going to use Nitrado.

[south lance]

are there any other major server providers

wonder if theyll just buy their own even

perhaps easier to maintain when you arent reliant on 3rd party especially if they suck with stuff like ddos protection

but idk if this is possible cause need servers worldwide

[grim kestrel]

If I recall correctly I think they mentioned talking to Ubisoft

[past wind]

Google, Microsoft, Amazon

[south lance]

for gaming specifically?

[past wind]

They rent the servers and you can setup wherever you want

[grim kestrel]

Microsoft actually a high possibility since they have a time exclusivity for Xbox and PC

[past wind]

Wc will probably choose what’s best for their profile

[south lance]

i didnt even know about shit like playfab till now

apparently microsoft gaming server host service

vaguely remember amazons

[past wind]

And they would also resolve for the Xbox this way

[grim kestrel]

Yeah

[south lance]

what are microsoft servers like quality wise

the games hosted by them, good ddos protection and performance and stuff?

[past wind]

Good and spreaded all over the world

[south lance]

defo international

hopefully way better than nitrado

wonder if nitrado is just cheaper

[past wind]

Man, all those three above will be better than Nitrado, for sure 🤣

[grim kestrel]

Well for context gotta go off topic a bit... When GTA Online first Christmas updates PSN went down for months when Xbox came up within a week.

[past wind]

Yes, it’s probably cheaper

Or at least it was for what the envisioned for Ark in 2015

[south lance]

all this sounds good provided they use microsoft

[past wind]

Maybe if they knew it would be a huge success, they wouldn’t have made that deal with Nitrado

[south lance]

did they state that they arent getting hosted by nitrado in a tweet some time ago?

[past wind]

I didn’t see that

[south lance]

wheres confirmation that they arent using nitrado then

steam page?

[grim kestrel]

Plus being with Microsoft would mitigate the delay on unofficial servers updating when Ark gets an update lol

[south lance]

mightve missed it somewhere

[past wind]

Me either. Didn’t see anything about that

[south lance]

wheres this from

[grim kestrel]

It was around their massive article release

[past wind]

Two things I’ve seen people talking here, but didn’t see anything official: moving away from battleye and Nitrado

[past wind]

The founders note you mean?

[grim kestrel]

Yeah

[past wind]

Let me look for it

[tropic crag]

Dear GOD I hope not

[grim kestrel]

I think Microsoft Gaming Servers would be best option cause it would streamline unofficial servers updating with official and be easy since they have a time exclusive release for PC and Xbox already.

[split dove]

let's hope theres also a different anti-cheat iirc somewhere they answerd it will be a different one

[past wind]

Didn’t you misunderstood the part about mod.io?

There’s nothing about a new server provider in this post

[past wind]

Do you remember where?

I didn’t see that

[grim kestrel]

I don't recall if it was in that note, but it was mention around that time period.

Either way I really don't want Nitrado back anyway, so I hope it true. The delay on unofficial updates was annoying

[past wind]

Does anyone know what provider they are using for SOTF?

[tropic crag]

Yeah, Nitrado I'd hope are out, they kinda stinky

[past wind]

Me neither, I just want to know if it’s official

[split dove]

at best i can recall it should've been a reply on a Ark related twitter post from recently, either from the Ark one itself or Jeremy, Cedric, Dollie or one of the other prominent ones

[past wind]

Ok, I will trust you

That will be good, if they change both the servers provider and anti-cheat

[split dove]

i forgot to screenshot it as i didn't really think too much of it until a few days later 😅

[calm scaffold]

i remember seeing it too but i dont remember exactly where either

i can confirm that its true they have different anti cheat planned at least

[split dove]

good, i'm not the only one probably going mad

[tropic crag]

They definitely said somewhere that the anti cheat is being changed, might've even been in here

But idk about the server host part

[past wind]

Found that on Twitter:

Q: @ComplexMinded are we getting a better anticheat system for Ark 2 or still using Battleeye?

A: In discussion, but the anti-cheat is planned to be front and center / much more robust.

More than 2 years ago

Not sure they have decided already

[carmine rock]

I dont think Microsoft have some good Anti DDoS or Big Filtration

Nitrado have some.

Anti DDoS is a big part of choice.

[carmine rock]

Simple ip check lol

[grim kestrel]

I hope Sinomacrops are on all maps in Ark 2, that has become the first dino I tame on a server lol

[tropic crag]

Tell that to official players LMAO

Microsoft servers rarely get ddos'd, if ever. Ark official servers? You hear about them getting ddos'd every time you speak to an official PvP player, lol

[grim kestrel]

Anyone got predictions of how transfers will work with dinos without having to upload them? Since there no tek, there not gonna be cryopods likely.

[tropic crag]

Hopefully, the same as they do now, but forward only, never backwards (as in back to older maps)

[stray elm]

Who said there's gonna be transfers?
We have no ideas what mechanics will and wont return.

[grim kestrel]

There gonna be multiple maps so you're obviously gonna have to be able to send your character and dinos if for nothing other than transcending the story of each map.

[tropic crag]

We can only hope, there may be just one expanding map, or changes to an existing one, we know nothing in that regard

[stray elm]

Again, we have no idea how anything will work in ARK-2.
They could as easily have multiple maps for expansions, to changing it to a whole new system.

[grim kestrel]

Because image official players if they get told you need a separate character per map having to deal with a level grind on every map. That another reason they'll obviously have a way to transfer, may just have to upload dino in obs and not be able to inventory them.

[mighty lion]

So with ever expanding maps, would you just be prevented from entering an area if you dont have the dlc?

[stray elm]

Again, we have no idea how they're doing it.

[stray elm]

I'd think so, yes.
It'd be no different then currently preventing others from going to DLC maps when they don't have it.

[grim kestrel]

what? That no where near the same... That like saying FPS players can't matchmake in a public lobby once the first DLC drops, you have to make your own lobby on the map you have.

That the comparison you just gave ^

[tropic crag]

That's exactly what happens, though? In Call of Duty, if you own DLC, you get put into a separate matchmaking pool

[stray elm]

Man, did you hit your head?
It wouldn't work like that.
You'd be able to log into the map server, but you wouldn't be able to explore the DLC regions.
It's literally what every MMO does.

[grim kestrel]

Lol, so you're assuming I only meant for DLC maps?

[tropic crag]

You don't match with people who don't have the DLC, in your example, which is exactly the same principle

[grim kestrel]

That where the disconnect was, it for any base map on release.

[tropic crag]

I don't understand what you mean then, sorry

[carmine rock]

they are getting xd

[grim kestrel]

You gotta be able to transfer your character at minimum to any map you have rather is base maps on release or your DLC maps.

Because if people get told they have to start entirely over on a new character for every map, then official will only have a fraction of players on it cause no one gonna do that grind on every single map in one cluster.

[carmine rock]

And Microsoft will have to do Filtration for them then

[tropic crag]

I don't get what either of you mean

Players will play the game, no matter the circumstances

To think no transfers will stop anyone is an L take

[grim kestrel]

Now I agree you may get restricted to uploading or leaving tames on the map they're tamed on, but you have to be able to transfer your character if they don't let you inventory your tames in cryos due to it being primitive plus

[tropic crag]

They don't "have" to let you do jack shit, lol

It's their game

If no transfers is the rule, that's the rule

[grim kestrel]

And again, I don't know if you're half reading my post, but never said people won't play the game, I said people won't play official at the rate they do now, they will go find an unofficial server where leveling isn't as much of a grind. Yeah official will maintain a certain amount of committed players to that grind.

[tropic crag]

Now, do I see transfers returning? Personally, yes. Does that make it confirmed? Gods no, and it'd be silly of me to think so just because I want it that way

And I'm reading your posts, just can't understand half of them is all 😅

[grim kestrel]

Okay I can't post a screenshot of Ark 2 trailer, there a diamond seen in the wrist of skelaton hand the dodo pulling, that a positive sign of evidence that we're still gonna see transcendence storyline which would support keeping a single character

[split dove]

the only majority official holds is mainly console players as all unofficials for them are just boosted rates, and the elitist official pvp players.
I think that with mods on consoles more people will go from official to unofficial, and that official players will become the minority.

[grim kestrel]

That a good possibility, I'm gonna try and find a good discord run one for that reason.

[carmine rock]

So you dont know how work Anti DDoS.

I dont think Microsoft will do better than even Nitrado.

[split dove]

i know i'm going rented server day 1 if it's up to just play alone with my friends, better to do that than suffer on official with it's current occupants

[untold ingot]

I find it extremely unlikely that there won't be some form of transfers on official. It might be more restricted than in ark1, but it's very likely to still be a thing

[grim kestrel]

This is off topic just for context... You didn't play GTA Online first year did you? When it got DDoS during Christmas update PSN stayed down for months, where Xbox came back up in less than a week.

[untold ingot]

I am hoping for more character permanence in ark lol

[carmine rock]

no I do not play gta xd

I hope I could host ark2 on my machines

[grim kestrel]

That a strong example of how good server security is from Microsoft, they got it back up in 3 days where PSN was down for 4 months or so

[carmine rock]

xD

...

[desert swallow]

23 days actually

but I guess your point still stands

[grim kestrel]

GTA Online was back up in 3 days on Xbox cause I had both PS3 and 360 at the time.

[desert swallow]

Playstation probably had to develop the fix.

[grim kestrel]

Sony issue was they didn't charge for online, they finally caught up since requiring PS Plus

[tropic crag]

I remember that, wasn't sure of the timeframes but sounds about right

[grim kestrel]

But anyhow lets get back on topic before a mod jumps in

[untold ingot]

Dont know anything about gta, but I want transfers in ark2 lol

[tropic crag]

Oh for sure, me too

[grim kestrel]

Facts or I'm adding a requirement to my discord ran custom cluster lol

[tropic crag]

I'm running a server cluster regardless of if official is bearable or not, screw official all the way

[untold ingot]

I hope maps work differently and main dlc maps are just sections of the first map, but I still prefer transfers

[tropic crag]

But if that's not available at launch, I'll gladly play solo either in SP or via official til it does

[grim kestrel]

I don't mind official for say, but I do want to get in on modded dinos and maps for unofficial.

[tropic crag]

Don't see a reason why they would change the map system tbh, it's one of the good parts imo

[untold ingot]

I am pretty sure nekatus is already working on making a map for ark2 lol

[grim kestrel]

I play PvE anyhow so my only ill will toward official was the pillar spamming to lock in real estate.

[untold ingot]

Because they can do maps thousands of times bigger, and I like big maps

[stray elm]

BIG

[tropic crag]

I do too, but no reason they can't have big maps and have it like it was in Ark 1

With transfers and the like

[untold ingot]

Imagine the island gets a cave dlc that adds aberration under it, or new islands or continents

[tropic crag]

It'll take longer to develop the maps, sure, but I'd easily wait a year between DLCs if it meant we got another Aberration or Extinction tier map but this time it's 5x the size

[untold ingot]

Extinction tier? That's like almost ci or ragnarok tier lol

[tropic crag]

Extinction was a cool ass map, admit it

[desert swallow]

really?

[tropic crag]

Far better than CI or Lagnarok

[desert swallow]

Aberration was cool, but extinction was kind of boring to me.

[untold ingot]

Can't, because it was a bland wasteland

[tropic crag]

I just didn't like the crashing every 30 minutes, my only issue with it lol

[untold ingot]

It is the least enjoyable paid dlc imo

[tropic crag]

(Which eventually was fixed)

[grim kestrel]

Switch has their own team so it whatever with that console, I need companies to start only developing for PC, Series X/S, and PS5 though cause PS4 and Xbox One is holding back potential

[desert swallow]

extinction = OSDs and veins, oh and if you were into pvp the titans.

[tropic crag]

Current gen only, so no worries there bud 🙂

[grim kestrel]

Yeah I knew Wildcard made that decision that why they're rising to level of me getting their game the way I am for Rockstar

[tropic crag]

That goes to Scorched for me, easily

[split dove]

xbox players have had 2 years to upgrade to next gen, playstation players will have even more time to find a ps5 🤣

[tropic crag]

Dying on spawn to either a mantis, direwolf, or terror bird? No thanks 🤮

[lavish rain]

Finally, somthing we agree on

[tropic crag]

Not to mention the shoehorned heatstroke mechanics that never worked properly, and the other shitty weathers that were OP as hell

[lavish rain]

I've died to sabers and hyenas on spawn

[grim kestrel]

I got Series X on release without a pre-order, Walmart I went to had 10 and only 4 people were there getting one at the early morning release

[untold ingot]

My argument would be at least there were weather events lol

[lavish rain]

If they are shit weather events there's no point

[tropic crag]

Meh, shitty stamina draining weather that doesn't effect wild dinos is shitty

Nothing could convince me otherwise

[untold ingot]

I want more crazy weather for ark2, but yeah the weather quality has to increase

[tropic crag]

And wild dinos better be effected by it, istg

[split dove]

the only thing that harms both wild and tamed creatures is just lava and drowning lol, they are immune to everything else when wild

[tropic crag]

One of my main issues right there

[desert swallow]

You want weather to be there but not be a hinderance, real life != fun

[untold ingot]

Everyone complains about that, but then fall damage will affect tames that aren't being ridden lol

[lavish rain]

Whe

[untold ingot]

Oh no, I want it to be a hindrance.

[desert swallow]

Not me, it'll get old fast

[lavish rain]

That's the end of ark if they add that

[tropic crag]

That, and things getting woefully underpowered upon taming them, such bull

[untold ingot]

I want weather to make it so fliers can't work

[untold ingot]

I have been hearing that a lot lately

[lavish rain]

🤣 so have i

[ionic meteor]

If you fly during a thunderstorm you'd just get dismounted

[untold ingot]

As opposed to every Dino being stupid op upon taming

[desert swallow]

A lot more dinos would die if they did that. It'd be the number one cause of dino death.

[grim kestrel]

I might be putting expectations on parkour for Ark 2 due to being a DL fan.

[lavish rain]

It could work under one condition that the maps have few hills

[tropic crag]

Fall damage is only an issue if you're either not paying attention or are risky, wouldn't change if the dinos took it while unridden tbh

[untold ingot]

If the pathfinding on tames is better I don't see why them taking fall damage is a problem

[tropic crag]

That too

[grim kestrel]

Lol, if I ran off cliff while mounted to a land dino like a rex I just stood up and waited for him to land on the ground then mounted again. It was a little cheesy.

[lavish rain]

But we don't know about pathfinding

Also, I'd rather have dismounting before i hit teh ground to be an out to a situation

[untold ingot]

I am just imagining a bugged ai code though, one that is supposed to make dinos stay away from cliffs but actually makes them prioritize jumping off cliffs. Would be really funny to watch lol

[grim kestrel]

That was what saved me in so many situations while I was on official.

[lavish rain]

Insert drug induced rant

[tropic crag]

Babby mode engaged if you do that jump off the tame at the last second thing for any reason other than a quick laugh

[desert swallow]

I once lost control of my car and it fell off a cliff. I quickly climbed through the sky light window and stood on the car. If I had still been in the car the car would have been destroyed, thankfully I acted quickly and car was fine.

[untold ingot]

That is such an exploit that I want it gone lol

[lavish rain]

Nah, keep it

[grim kestrel]

Unmounting to survive a fall off a mount not an exploit if they never put fall damage on dinos. It just being smart.

[split dove]

it's already been stated pathfinding will be a whole lot better

[lavish rain]

But we don't know if that's true or a bluff

[untold ingot]

Yeah that's why I am hoping they fix fall damage

[tropic crag]

That's the definition of an exploit, just about

You are literally exploiting a game mechanic lol

[lavish rain]

Card counting is an exploit ig

[desert swallow]

Semantics discussion incoming!

[grim kestrel]

An exploit would be glitching into a wall or some small area to be at a advantage typically for PvP.

[lavish rain]

That's a glitch

An exploit would be abusing already stated game mechanics

[tropic crag]

You outed yourself in the first five words there

[split dove]

PvP players wouldn't share it if they did it, unless someone did it to them first lol, then they'd share info about the exploit

[untold ingot]

Not taking fall damage after jumping off a mountain is also an exploit lol

[grim kestrel]

Just using a dino lack of fall damage is not the definition of an exploit and anyone who thinks so is the same people who call people cheating for sitting in an corner on FPS, or using combos in fighting games with a minimal counter/reversal. You're just mad you didn't think to do that.

[ionic meteor]

I should be banned then 😂

[tropic crag]

Either way, hope it's fixed in Ark 2, such a crutch of a mechanic and overall just dumb

[desert swallow]

I agree it's dumb, it doesn't give anyone a huge advantage over anyone else, so as far as abusing game mechanics go it's very very tame.

[grim kestrel]

Not if you're technically not the one falling, giving a dino it own fall damage was an easy fix that they just never felt was a big deal.

[untold ingot]

If you have to bring technicality in, then it's an exploit lol

[tropic crag]

Technically, you should be taking damage there, as should your tame, if you really wanna get technical

[desert swallow]

I'm betting they tried it but there was probably a whole bunch of issues, especially graphical, because of lag between client and server to give dinos fall damage, and probably exploits too.

so they said "F it", it's part of the game

[untold ingot]

This could and probably is the case. I am hoping they find a workaround

[grim kestrel]

Lol, no it exposing logic of someone using their head versus someone breaching a broken spot in the map to hide as what an actual exploit is.

One of those requires utilizing a broken feature, the other is something that could have been added and never was cause it wasn't a big enough issue.

[tropic crag]

Oh my god, give it a rest

Nobody cares

[untold ingot]

Love it when people say use your head, and then give contradictory statements lol

[desert swallow]

left and right side of the brain

[tropic crag]

Vying for control

[grim kestrel]

I'm down to get back on topic, it wasn't me that complained about someone using a free trip down hill.

[untold ingot]

Harsh weather effects is a yes then

[grim kestrel]

I'm always for adding in weather

[tropic crag]

As long as they effect everything, yes

[untold ingot]

I want to be in the middle of a raid, then weather comes in and saves the defenders

[grim kestrel]

I'd be down with a a tornado to come through and you'd have to put up a protective wall around your base if you're in the area it lands

[tropic crag]

I'd love to see creatures hibernate/come out of hibernation depending on weather states, or at least go and hide/go out to hunt or something along those lines

[untold ingot]

You are wandering around. queue server lag as 10000 dinos run for cover then you get hi lt by lightning lol

[grim kestrel]

I hope the AI tribes that will also be a factor can be found roaming in groups like their hunting for supplies and not just in their camp area, so they're just as much a threat potentially and not just dinos

[desert swallow]

While singing "Can't wait to hibernate. A big long nap makes a dino feel great"

[untold ingot]

8 am imagining warzone dmz for pvp lol. The npcs are more dangerous than the players lol

[grim kestrel]

As a PvE player I wouldn't mind that, have them be able to go anywhere on the map so unless you based in a spot requires a flyer you will need outside defenses around your base.

[untold ingot]

If portable cryos are a thing, you won't be able to only base where fliers go, unless you only use fliers

[grim kestrel]

True that

[past wind]

I hope anything like cryos are gone for good

You need to move creatures around, you will need to take them on the ground

That would fix also how op it is to move things between servers

[untold ingot]

Yeah, there has to be some storage for tames otherwise it clogs up servers, but they shouldn't be pocket gigas lol

[grim kestrel]

I would be okay with being required to upload dinos at an obelisk, I just hope they still allow transfer. That'll be a deciding factor if I am okay with a near official rate unofficial cluster or not.

[south lance]

ark mobile installed a tame limit for tribes

everyone gets like 40 tames per person

would suck for mass breeding

[grim kestrel]

People actually play Ark on mobile? o.o

[untold ingot]

There won't be obelisks, but I get the point you are making

[south lance]

too many

[grim kestrel]

That the only thing I got to specify transfer, they could make damn near anything symbolize transfer. I'm predicting like a 20ft totem pole lol

[south lance]

what percent of dinos before cryos would be out in a base for breeding only

cause now its essentially 100%

[untold ingot]

Their common trend with recent maps is just tiny terminals lol

[grim kestrel]

Yeah like extinction terminals

[untold ingot]

And genesis

[south lance]

its better usually to have 30 terminals than 3 main ones

[untold ingot]

Yep, because it's either that or glowy drops falling from the sky

[south lance]

drops alr kinda do this but expiration is super annoying

[grim kestrel]

Eh because Gen2 revolves around so much tek I doubt they'd use anything there considering Wildcard themselves said Tek was the worst thing they added to their game.

I honestly can't disagree when you can use a tek suit to hover above a giga and tame it with no threat of being hit.

[south lance]

wonder what adding different maps that revolve around completely different playstyles would be like

[past wind]

Creatures storage is the way to go. Also they’ve talked about a new creatures management system, which might mean creature storage/breeding pens etc.

[untold ingot]

Yup, this would be good lol

[untold ingot]

How so? Most of the maps in ark currently have the same playstyle

[grim kestrel]

That what makes me hopeful of having a way to inventory dinos cause breeding would be a pain in the ass

[south lance]

yeah thats what i mean, changing that somehow

idrk how cause it depends on how playstyles work

actually now that i think about it

having whole maps dedicated to a playstyle would suck

i think gen2 space biome is the most id have

where you primsrily use it for farming

and the rest of the map you do the typical surviving

so maybe regions of the map dedicated to breeding and farming but they only work on a timed sort of basis

farming alr exists ofc

[untold ingot]

I would love for different playstyles to be possible and viable.

[grim kestrel]

You'd have to be able to kill your own dinos while breeding when you got something you didn't need to not overload your tame limit while breeding.

Not to mention the issue of dino being stuck in the floor cause they grew up from a baby and didn't align right on the floor.

[south lance]

idk how to diversify within pvp or pve

[grim kestrel]

Can't tell you how many times I had to cryo a dino cause it wouldn't get out of the floor.

[south lance]

like a huge part of ark is the freedom to do whatever

[desert swallow]

Can you imagine being a developer for this game and reading everyone's hopes and dreams then having to look at what's been created.

[south lance]

i have no doubts 90% of this channel is literally beyond what any game company can implement reasonably

[untold ingot]

Well, either they are looking at it saying "these guys have no idea😇" or "these guys have no idea🥴"

[south lance]

losing a baby cause it meshed 💀

[grim kestrel]

That founders note had me sold having parkour and dark souls style combat with primitive style

[south lance]

i think the biggest part about parkour will be climbing

no need for flyers to access much of the map then, or grapples

massive space left for more important things

[grim kestrel]

I'm thinking about making my base a parkour to get in and out and fairly difficult lol

[untold ingot]

I just hope they don't add the dumb Conan stamina for climbing

[grim kestrel]

I'm thinking more DL parkour

[past wind]

And I’m 90% sure no one is expecting they will implement everything we want 😂

[lone igloo]

I love conan

[past wind]

If they did, we would have 10 different games

[untold ingot]

I will concede if it looks cool, I can ride dinos, it's tough, fliers get nerfed, there is weather and no cryos

[covert tapir]

id prefer for flyers to be more of an endgame thing and heavily nerfed

[past wind]

Me too. We will adapt.

[untold ingot]

Anything else will be a big bonus

[desert swallow]

True, ark 1 you could be up in the air in half hour depending on server rates.

ignoring gen 2 suit

[covert tapir]

you just rushed an argy withing the first hour and everything else is useless

then you can kill alphas and nothing is a problem sounds fun

[untold ingot]

Being in the air for half an hour isn't a problem. Being able to carry your house, business and pool while being in the air is the problem lol

[covert tapir]

pt saddle lvl 70 minimum thx

if there are still levels like this

[desert swallow]

being in the air definately was, it allows you to bypass so much of the game and get end tier dinos quickly

[past wind]

Talking about nerfing flyers. I think would be nice to have wagons/carts to be able to carry more weight using land Dinos.

[covert tapir]

yessss omg

[untold ingot]

Tbh, I can get endgame tames from the ground just as quick. Fliers are just safer. And I want that safety gone lol

[covert tapir]

problem is that this safety is way to easy to access

[untold ingot]

But I also don't want any wyverns or dragons at all lol

[untold ingot]

No, that's not the issue. The problem is that the safety also comes with infinite weight and cryos

[desert swallow]

You have to admit, scouting from the air was way superior.

[untold ingot]

A Bob on a pt is still a Bob. If he can't cryo things and can't carry a full kit, then he never progresses

[grim kestrel]

I believe we all assume no cryos cause we already know there no tek. Cryo stuff was learned with normal level where tek had to be transcended to. I think it probable that cryo won't be a thing, but they could surprise us and put those just as a way to put up dinos for breeders and stuff

[untold ingot]

A structure that can store dinos in an upload type of way is fine. A portable cryo is not okay

[mint swan]

Ark 2 be like atlas without ships and a sea lol

[grim kestrel]

There a lot they could do, they could make up something that looks and fits better but works the same

[covert tapir]

upload structures already seems to advanced for this primitive game itll be

[untold ingot]

Call it a stable then

[covert tapir]

there better be a sea lol

[desert swallow]

yes and no, they did have "tek" lying around

it's possible to add that "advanced" feature but keep everything else primitive

"magic"

[mint swan]

The implants gets disabled lol

[grim kestrel]

I think it more backing down from us using stuff like the tek suit, once you got a tek suit there was 0 challenge essentially that didn't have a player aspect to it

[untold ingot]

This. I would love a sea, and I would love to be able to make actual boats

[past wind]

Do you know Atlas? Atlas has no tek but you can upload creatures to pens. It’s not really tek, just a way to implement it on a game

[desert swallow]

plot and magic

[covert tapir]

id love a more sea creatures that maybe also attack each other and dont just totally rampage once you are in render distance

[untold ingot]

Yeah

It might not be right at the start, but a sea dlc that plays like a land map could be epic

[grim kestrel]

I do believe if we got a gun, the most it would be is a longneck, beside that bows, crossbows, melee tools

[untold ingot]

Especially if they have dlcs added onto the main map so you go from building a boat actually into a giant ocean

[covert tapir]

well weve only seen plenty of primitve type weapons like bones and obsidian daggers so i assume longneck is a pretty rare chance

[past wind]

Again (😂) they might go the atlas way. They’ve worked on the land and after a while they worked on the sea and deep sea.

[untold ingot]

I just want to see the map get bigger as the game progresses

But I also want to see nekatus make something epic

[past wind]

If we go by their Steam description, it will be massive

[covert tapir]

itll probably just be a variety of arrow types id guess but in the end i just dont know anything about the game yet

[untold ingot]

I am hoping 10x the size of gen2

For a start, and each dlc expands it

[grim kestrel]

Honestly talking about looking at under water world, we have that, it like a whole different world in some of the under water on Ark 1 just have to be able to stay down there long enough to experience it.

[covert tapir]

i want more biomes, gimme a thick bamboo jungle with raptors

[untold ingot]

Yeeess

[past wind]

I want it bigger.

[covert tapir]

normal cave systems and more of them

different entrances

[stray elm]

I thought you said 'thick Baboons' for a second there

[untold ingot]

Giant grass fields big enough to hide brontos and rexes, that can't be removed from graphics settings

[covert tapir]

honestly im down for that too

[past wind]

Like they could have just one cluster for pvp and one for pve at the beginning. Each cluster being the whole Arat.

[stray elm]

Thicc-ify all ARK creatures

[covert tapir]

🍑

[past wind]

Or just release new dlcs with new Arat regions

[covert tapir]

yes tall grass aswell

[past wind]

That seems awesome

[stray elm]

I'd love a concept of a DLC map set on an artificial floating environment that's set within the gas-giant planet Arat is orbiting around.

[covert tapir]

true we dont know anything about the 3 plantes weve seen

[past wind]

Ark 2: going to Moonrat

[covert tapir]

was it 3?

[stray elm]

If any of you guys played Halo-2, something akin to the first Arbiter level where you're on a hanging facility, above a gas-giant, but in this case it's a hanging biodome.

[covert tapir]

but i guess the atari which will be the main enemy only live on the main planet

[past wind]

Arat + 2 moons I guess

[covert tapir]

which makes the moons unlikely for story dlc at least

[stray elm]

Arat is a moon, btw

[past wind]

People said there are some clues on the SDK

[stray elm]

Who knows.
There might be some ancient alien technology that allows us to teleport between the planets without needing Tek.

[past wind]

We don’t know actually

[stray elm]

Forerunner type of shit

[untold ingot]

Sometimes they do that on purpose just to throw people for a loop

[past wind]

We are guessing they are primitive because of the first trailer, but… who knows

[stray elm]

And the Aratai's actually seem to be the suito-antagonist, not the main ones.

[blissful perch]

my understanding is people complained that tames kept dying to fall damage for slipping off cliffs and falling insane heights and instantly dying

[past wind]

Possible

[blissful perch]

which...sounds pretty awful if it took 24+ hours to tame some of the original roster

[covert tapir]

well tbh they look like mindless trolls but anything can be

[stray elm]

Giga's took like 8+ IRL hours to tame before patches.

Trust me.
'I fucking remember that pain'

[untold ingot]

I just hope tranq taming isn't a thing lol

[covert tapir]

what do guys think will the file size be bigger than the current ue4 ark?

[stray elm]

Or if it is, we don't have to wait an hour to fucking feed the creature

[past wind]

Yeah, but it was an one minute trailer. Who knows

[stray elm]

If it's well optimized and compressed, I can see ARK-2 actually being the same size of the base-game. So like 100-ish GB's

[past wind]

I believe, at least, it won’t be the only way. I mean, they talked about those world events involving endangered creatures

And we would need to gain their trust

[covert tapir]

maybe like 25% id guess the rest might be different i hope

[rugged flame]

Everyone gonna be disappointed when ark 2 comes out

[untold ingot]

I don't want it at all lol

[stray elm]

I know this isn't ARK-2 related. But I kind of wish they'll add the quick-switch feature that the Tek-Bow for all bows for ARK-1.
Or at least have that for ARK-2, cause I fucking hate going into my inventory and switching rounds.

[covert tapir]

i had this weird thought of having to clean a brachios toes to tame him xd

[untold ingot]

I would rather the base taming method be like immersive taming

[stray elm]

From what little we know, it seems like it's going to be egg-stealing

[covert tapir]

true we saw the egg pouch

might be a clue

[desert swallow]

All points in speed, run around with a whip

[blissful perch]

I'd bet solid money there will be a variety of tame methods

[stray elm]

Not just that, but they confirmed that's 'A' way to tame some creatures in one of their CC

In the Founders-note, they confirmed some stuff that isn't in the store-page.
Not much, but did confirm egg-stealing will return.

[covert tapir]

i love egg stealing

[untold ingot]

Speed needs to be capped at like 120 lol. All these speed goblin gremlins in ark1 lol

[covert tapir]

that also indicates nests

and therefore protective parents even herbivores

[stray elm]

I do too, but it does get a bit boring.
But with new stealth mechanics and shit, this'll be interesting.

[covert tapir]

its the hunted mod all over again

[untold ingot]

Without an omnipresent radar, they can make the defending wilds so much more dangerous and get away with it

[chilly osprey]

Please do.

[past wind]

Also, do you know the egg turned into a fully grown rex on the second trailer? I mean, at least that’s what I believe. 😂

[blissful perch]

the hunted mod had a couple major flaws imo: 1.) weight was horrendous 2.) the emphasis was entirely on breeding

[stray elm]

They also confirmed Random-Events.
One of them are 'injured animals'
So, while not confirmed. My own thoughts of that might be a choice-based action.
Either A: kill the downed animal for an easy meal/resources.
Or B: possibly help them recover and gain their trust.

[covert tapir]

what do you mean lol

[past wind]

First trailer the girls took the egg. The Rex chased them. They scaped.

[rugged flame]

im not wasting my money im gonna watch people play it first to see if i really wanna buy ark 2

[past wind]

Second trailer the Rex is grown and they are riding it

[stray elm]

They lost the egg.

[covert tapir]

sounds good, id also like some carnivores to only eat corpes and maybe corpes spawn in the wild too

[stray elm]

They also confirmed random water spouts, and herds.

Someone also slipped up and accidently stated 'migrations' in 2021's Extra-Life

'woops'

[untold ingot]

I thought they said migrations in the steam oage

[covert tapir]

maybe season similar with cold and warm

[stray elm]

Yeeep

[covert tapir]

and not the random the island temperature where you scorche to death on a random thursday

[stray elm]

Yeeeeeep
I believe that was suppose to be seasons, but it felt weird.

Seems like the idea of ARK-2 is to basically remake what they wanted out of ARK-1, but couldn't due to technology and financial restraints.

[covert tapir]

but that was also the "arks" doing so a more natural weather can only be expected

also i guess thered be a LOT less carnivores due to natural stuff

[stray elm]

ARK's are stated to be more natural with their weathers in-canon.
So nah, that was just weird gameplay stuff

[covert tapir]

ah alrigjt

[untold ingot]

Really hope so

[stray elm]

Remember, ARK's are suppose to act as artificial environments, and in-canon, they're damn good at appearing as real as they can.

[untold ingot]

Ark1 was overrun with carnivores

[blissful perch]

by design (both WC/lore wise)

[covert tapir]

yeah because the arks kept spawning them

[untold ingot]

Yeah I just hope the design changes

[covert tapir]

in reallife it doesnt work that way

[blissful perch]

and because more carnivores probably meant more engagement. They're generally more flashy lol

[stray elm]

I do hope if they're going to balance, or remove the amount of Carnivores in ARK-2, to get more aggressive Omni or Herbivores to take their place.
I still want 90% of the shit to kill me. But out of pettiness then survival.

[untold ingot]

Oh, I don't disagree with that lol

[covert tapir]

but with more teritorial( and perhaps aggressive) herbivores having few carnivores wont be an issue

[untold ingot]

I want to feel like a peanut without a shell with squirrels around, but I don't want stupid amounts of carnivores just because they are "fun"

[covert tapir]

never made sense i could run into every herbivore and they dont give a shit

[past wind]

Just watched it again. They didn’t show them losing it. I still believe that Rex from the second trailer came from this egg. 😂

It’s not a red egg, but still

[stray elm]

A brachi can be as scary, if not more then a rex.

[covert tapir]

damn santiago set that mature speed high

[past wind]

Not really

First trailer is from 2020. The second trailer is from 2022