ark-2

[potent hull]

a good home for you then albedo lol

nice name lol

[brittle hazel]

I like ark 1 but I feel like with zero news on 2 or any hints or even leaks were being overly enthusiastic about it coming out this year

[potent hull]

you for get i am overlord lol

[brittle hazel]

There’s only one overlord

[potent hull]

see i new you no the anime

[lime forge]

[brittle hazel]

Ofc lol I’m probably obsessed with overlord more than I am with anything else

[lime forge]

More vin

[brittle hazel]

Got all the novels 1-14 and audiobooks 1-7

[potent hull]

more carry ples

🇺🇸

any way how ark will it be for them to bring ark 1 to ue5

[lime forge]

[bold juniper]

[tough bolt]

🖕🖕

[bold juniper]

[lavish rain]

[lone igloo]

I’ve watched szn 1-3 4 times and szn 4 1 time “ark 2”

[brittle hazel]

I lost count myself lol

[lone igloo]

Lol “ark 2”

[fallow niche]

Take it to dms or #general please

[lone igloo]

[worldly garden]

There's no way it is coming out before Q4 if that.

[bold juniper]

[brittle hazel]

No way ark 2 early access is coming out in early 2023 I’d say minimum late 2023

[desert swallow]

Ark 2 time to release >= Star Citizen time to release

[split dove]

nah Ark 2 will be out before that gets close to being done lol, ''give us money while we take 30 years to complete our massive game bc we decided to release it early''

[thick shoal]

Doesn't seem like it. They have already announced what will be on show 😦

[thick moat]

yall remember the event trailers that were made in unreal engine 5? that may be a hint

to ark 1 on ue5 I mean

[hoary orchid]

Out of all the game titles coming out for Xbox they decide to make ark 2 exclusive to them and pc

[south lance]

never support sony

[hoary orchid]

I’m not tryna start any console wars but PlayStations all been superior to Xbox

[south lance]

i just dont like japanese game companies

[split dove]

god forbid playstation users have to endure a reverse playstation exclusive moment where they can't play a game
Real superior when the main incentive to buy a console is just bc it has exclusive games and they go to other platforms later down the line so it won't even be exclusive anymore lol
also iirc the current Xbox has better specs than the PS5 lol.

[south lance]

they all hate stuff that people make with their products for free

[thick moat]

honestly no, them just refusing on crossplay most of the time and copying xbox paid online is just cringe

and I honestly hold so much hate against them for not giving a fuck about psvita, but dis about ark 2 so let's talk le dinosaur game

[past wind]

People that has a PlayStation live on a delusional state. Just ignore.

[split dove]

the sony ponies

[past wind]

Exactly

[thick moat]

i do have a playstation, I in fact only had playtstation since I was a kid xd

but y sony fanboys are too loud

[past wind]

Maybe you saw the light, but definitely an exception

[past wind]

I don’t know, I just ignore them

[thick moat]

yeah I just don't care about console wars, it's something so old that I don't think anyone cares anymore lol

[past wind]

Me neither. I’m a pc guy and I would play any consoles that have a game I want.

[sweet isle]

I play NES

Mario 1 2 3, tetris, zelda and so much more

[thick moat]

[past wind]

Nintendo has the best exclusives and still the Nintendo players ain’t that toxic 😂

[sweet isle]

It has the best exclusives for family games i think, idk not that known on excĺusives haha

[split dove]

best exclusives bc they remain on only those platforms (unlike sony ''exclusives'' wich come to other platforms some time later)

the best part is watching the ponies cry when a game goes to pc

[sweet isle]

It depends on the players, i just dont like the type of games sony has as excl

[past wind]

TBF I don’t like the Sony exclusives. Most of them I never played. On my PlayStation 2 I only played multiplatform games. 🤣

But I like Nintendo exclusives. Zelda and Mario are awesome in my opinion:

[sweet isle]

Yes

[split dove]

Sony is too full of themselves lol, Microsoft offerd to keep CoD on Playstation for 10 more years instead of 3 when the aquisition goes trough and they said no lol, and then cry about Xbox wanting to keep it ''exclusive'' and how they wouldn't be able to compete lol

[sweet isle]

I just hate u need to pay for online games on all consoles

[past wind]

Yeah, that’s one of the reasons I’m a pc guy. 🤣

[sweet isle]

Same, i play pc and NES. Nes mostly with my parents and pc alone and w friends

[misty linden]

Is there a specific date

[split dove]

no, just 2023 but it's supposedly targeting a june release wich i can see happen as it's gonna be a early access game if that info from the xbox event in June 2022 is still accurate and no major internal delays happen

[bold juniper]

[split dove]

🧌 🪓

[potent hull]

flobs the game staring coming to a pc soon lol

[royal nebula]

If Ark 2 gets delayed till next year because of the engine upgrade then hopefully the engine upgrade is worth it

[split dove]

yeah no, i'd rather they do ark 2 this year instead of a engine upgrade to 7 year old Ark 1, it has run it's course and i'd rather experience something new, not ark 1 but with better graphics for more months untill ark 2

[potent hull]

i do not think ark 1 will go to ue 5 this year it will tack som time for them to do it sow ark 2 is what they will give us

[split dove]

if they want to they should use as minimal people as possible like TSoTF does so Ark 2 isn't slowed down a lot or just use the current ark 1 team to do it

we'd all find it nice that they give ark 1 a nice wrap up end like this, but most of us just want Ark 2 at this point after 7.5 years of Ark 1

[potent hull]

they my be going that way for ark 1 team on it but still my tack time

[split dove]

god it's already been 7 years

[potent hull]

the cod for ark 1 is old moving it to ue5 will be hard they may have bugs just bring it over to ue 5 bring the cod from ue4.5 to ue5 my have bugs in the transferring the cod to it

sow i think ark 1 going to ue5 my com out next year

[royal nebula]

Ikr it don’t feel like it

[past wind]

Right? Almost 8, actually. And no, I don’t want them to postpone Ark 2 in favor of an engine update for Ark 1.

[past wind]

I can 100% feel it. Love Ark, but it became boring to me since I finished Genesis 2.

[split dove]

the only time i'd want ark 1 first if it was a rewritten version that got rid and fixed some stupid mechanics choices, even then i would want ark 2 more

but just better graphics and the better performance isn't what i want, i want a new experience with ark 2 hopefully this year

[past wind]

I don’t know. Only fixes wouldn’t be enough to me. Maybe it would be entertaining for 2-3 months and I would be bored again.

I’ve already done everything on Ark 1. I need new features.

[split dove]

if it's the same stuff but with a more detailed graphics coat it ain't keeping me long

[past wind]

If it’s free, I will definitely test it. But I doubt I will stay long enough.

I’m excited for Ark 2 because it’s new stuff.

New map, new features, new lore etc

But the people with few hours on Ark 1 would probably have fun for a longer time

[split dove]

compared to Ark 2 Ark 1 is just so outdated and complex mechanicly lacking.
New combat won't be the cookie clicker combat from Ark 1
New movement will be a nice way to create more unique escape options
The world event system and dino ai upgrades will make the world also just feel so much more alive.

And the Aratai will finally give pve players a pvp esc presence to make it feel more alrounded

looking at the last few DLC creatures and the more unique taming methods i think was them testing and looking for feedback regarding new ways to tame

[royal nebula]

Like I said yesterday, why have ark 1 remastered when you can have ark 2

[split dove]

we all love Ark 1, but it's time to move on after almost 8 years
Truly a ''lovely relationship'' and not ''love hate and misery''

could be pretty soon if they're still trying to target that June release

there's also a tweet that's not pinned saying that the development was also going great

personally i'm thinking if it's releasing in June that they're keeping gameplay for when it's closer to launch and show what the launch version will be like, instead of 6 months ago and let's say some things visually change pretty absurdly between that time and launch

[lyric kayak]

crazy if they wipe all the servers when ue5 is out

[rotund grail]

Ark 2 comes out this Easter.

[split dove]

source: dude trust me

[lyric kayak]

lol

dont think it will be paid

ark 2 will probably be $70

I would not even mind of they did a subscription monthly for ark 2

[split dove]

it's early access, highly doubt that as early access games need to be lower priced than full launch games

[lyric kayak]

ark 2?

[split dove]

yes Ark 2 will be a early access launch

[lyric kayak]

so it should be out sooner than we expect

[mint swan]

It’ll be on game pass

[split dove]

that's why imo i think we will see it this year

[lyric kayak]

I think they should let us play test it and then wipe the servers when its released

once the core mechanics are fleshed out

[split dove]

early access is playtesting a game in beta technicly

[lyric kayak]

imagine the gameplay they say they are dropping is the actual game

I was talking about ark 2

but we dont even know how long they have been working on ark 1 ue5

could be done already

or close

wish they told us more

I don't really see why they don't, it would just generate more hype if they did

[split dove]

we also don't know how involved Microsoft is. could be they are under NDA wich they likely are.
Or maybe Xbox wants to keep ark 2 gameplay for one of it's own events if they are heavily involved

[lyric kayak]

I cry every time they release new ark stuff

so much nostalgia and so many people who share my love for the game

keeping it for an event is toxic

but it will reach more people

whats the next game event?

[split dove]

a xbox one on january 25th, but it's just 4 games and iirc some stuff about game pass and ark 2 wasn't mentioned and is more of a game direct for those 4 games

[mint swan]

when does ark 2 come out

[split dove]

still just 2023, no specific date yet

[blissful perch]

[split dove]

🖕

[harsh hornet]

14.9.2023

[brazen geode]

ark 2 but serizawa is in it

[brazen geode]

along with godzilla

[potent hull]

we my get ark 2 hop this year i think ark 1 going to ue 5 will tack some time

[split dove]

Ark 2 with it being early access should have to come out this year, i imagine that the core features are already done and they're just optimizing and improving/fixing it until they believe it's ready for the public

[potent hull]

you for got one thing the end boss is you flobs they need you in makeup stat lol

but yes we will see ark 2 i hop

[brittle hazel]

It dosnt it’s just a myth, like affordable health insurance

[tropic forge]

❤️ 🥚

[brittle hazel]

Diesal dino loves eggs ?

[royal patio]

any news on ark 2?

[brazen geode]

why do you need news?

You won't even get to play it until after a year

[royal patio]

I'm still curious if there's news of the game

[tropic gazelle]

When are you released ark 2?

[brazen geode]

ask the people with the studio wildcard role

they can answer your question

[royal patio]

are they on?

[desert swallow]

pro tip: They won't answer your question.

[royal patio]

I'm curious on the next trailer and what dinos will be in it

[tropic crag]

I think the word you were looking for is "good"

[lime forge]

You don’t even play Ark anymore, you just want people to lose their shit.

[tropic crag]

Official players? GOD yes, take EVERYTHING from them

[split dove]

Force them to go outside

[tropic crag]

As my boy Ramattra would say

[lime forge]

And quit talking shit on people in the other discord. Say it here like a man.

[tropic crag]

I do, lmao

[split dove]

"Only trough conflict do we evolve" most fun but most useless overwatch 2 tank

[tropic crag]

Not gonna ping a guy for a conversation from yesterday, that'd be very stupid

[split dove]

My man got sent to the super shadow realm after finally being good for 8 days

[royal patio]

do you think we will see creatures like the shadowmanes and space whales and space dolphins and other crazy stuff like that in ark 2?

[fair pasture]

Eventualy prolly

they have said itl be primitive

[royal patio]

I think I'll be getting a ps5 before the end of the year because of a few games caught my interest

[fair pasture]

fair

im plannin on upgrading my pc before ark 2

so yk

(not for ark 2, but before ark 2 xd)

[untold totem]

If you see the Gen 2 ending

You will see the answer

[stray elm]

After seeing Kelvin in Sons-of-the-Forest. I personally think more now that AI companions in ARK-2 would be cool.

[untold totem]

Aren't most AI work is done by the devs, not in engine?

[velvet leaf]

I'm buying NASA computer for ark 2

[untold ingot]

I mean, I have used nasas computers. Most gaming computers are better lol

[ionic meteor]

I have a question..

Is ARK 2 considered a second party game or third party?

Definitely not first party

[astral token]

What makes you think of any parties st all? There has been no news, so no reason to party

[mint swan]

[ionic meteor]

Umm.. I don't think you understood the question

Or you just trollin😂

[mortal kestrel]

[lime forge]

[prisma pike]

Ball exists you know

[tropic forge]

[lime forge]

[astral token]

I just trolling

[regal hull]

Is ark 2 gonna have custom characters

[lime forge]

Yeah

[regal hull]

Good

[lime forge]

More Vintiago

[elfin pumice]

[lyric kayak]

I hope they add tek nukes to ark 2

[lime forge]

[dapper hedge]

He was more fun in ow1 lol

[elfin pumice]

Tek hydrogen bomb

[lyric kayak]

you think its a joke but as soon as the game starts dying

[royal nebula]

Well last time anyone got hands on one they blew up the overseer and made aberration what it is now… so maybe it’s not the best idea

[lyric kayak]

lol

[tropic forge]

[south lance]

since abberation is what most people think is the best map, this can probably only be a good thing

[bold juniper]

[tropic forge]

only missing flyers to appreciate more the map cause the rest is perfect

[lime forge]

[split dove]

🖕

[blissful perch]

The lack of fliers is what made the map perfect

[tropic forge]

i dont mean as a way to travel but just to appreciate the beauty of the map

[ripe cedar]

Literally have rock drakes which can go anywhere

They might as well be fliers

[blissful perch]

It was a mistake to add other airborne tames like stalkers manas etc. I won’t lie about that

[royal nebula]

The map is small when you are able to fly

[jaunty fable]

They were literally endgame creatures. Not the same as getting a Ptera as your 2nd/3rd tame and 90% of all danger from a map is gone.

[ripe cedar]

I agree but most difficulty curves get harder as you play the game not easier, i guess most survival games are just different

[blissful perch]

Yea survival games are usually bell curve shaped

The early game is gentle so you can figure out how to do the basics, then it gets hard, then at the end you’re usually living comfy

[south lance]

make it exponentially harder

[tidal sapphire]

anyone wanna play ark dm me

[south lance]

why are you asking here though

[tidal sapphire]

cuz idk where to ask

[south lance]

#general #ark-survival-ascended #735196255483068497

[winged dome]

Literally anywhere else but here

[blissful perch]

I think it should start easy still, since that’s how you keep new players to the game and the genre

subnautica is like that: the first biomes are fairly relaxed compared to the far more dangerous ones later on. But by end game you’re equipped, stacked on resources, and prepared for anything

[ripe cedar]

Well i think the start of ark is usually the hardest part, after a certain point there is no challenge and instead you have to drag yourself through extremely tedious stuff like crafting ascendant gear and breeding

[mint swan]

definitely should be easy early on, but the end game should be challenging even for well prepared players.

Being op is fun, but personally it turns me off of games when you just mindlessly faceroll everything.

[winged dome]

Subnautica is also pretty linear in terms of progression, biomes mostly have a set order that needs to be explored to move on to the next

[blissful perch]

The start of ark has the most deaths, but you also lose the least when you die

It’s easy because it’s forgiving. And the stuff you need to progress is readily available everywhere

[south lance]

im half joking about making it exponentially harder, im not sure exactly if thisd be a good thing, though regardless yeah you need to have some simplicity at the start to get people tp properly engage with the game instead of just quitting immediately

[bold juniper]

[tropic forge]

[split dove]

🪓

[tranquil coyote]

[lime forge]

🥪

[lone igloo]

[desert swallow]

[untold ingot]

Maybe it shouldn't be exponentially harder, but it should be more difficult, especially mid game to late

[bold juniper]

[past wind]

I want scalability, if possible. I mean, if someone wants to play solo, this person should be able to close the whole cycle of the game.

If not possible, well, make it easier to make alliances/parties for the bosses and ascensions.

[south lance]

esp late

[south lance]

thats just modding your experience

either through settings or mods

[winged dome]

Outside maybe one or two missions, Ark is pretty easily completable solo. Just takes a lot of time. But more time =/= more difficult

[tropic crag]

Ark is pretty scalable already, yeah. Besides those unbeatable alpha gauntlet missions and the basketball ones that you literally cannot attempt without 2 or more players, the whole game is beatable at normal official settings solo

Takes forever and a day, whereas with more players it goes faster, but

[winged dome]

Thankfully there's a few missions from Gen1 that can be skipped for Alpha Ascension. Gen2 needs them all I think, and some of those races are nasty on a laggy server

[tropic crag]

I do get what they mean though in the broader sense I think, and in addition I do hope solo PvP is more manageable, but idk how they'd do that without implementing a mechanic that anyone could use and abuse, tribed or not (mainly no lifers getting an advantage I'm worried about, here)

[bold juniper]

Scaling bosses

[tropic crag]

You have to cheat to get Gen 1 alpha boss solo, there's no way to finish the alpha gauntlets which you'd need if leaving out the basketball missions, which you have to for the aforementioned reason

[bold juniper]

With scaling loot amounts not quality

[tropic crag]

No thanks

Extremely abusable

[bold juniper]

Not really

Because if all the loot is the same

Then there isn’t and advantage

A solo will always have the problem of facing more people in a fight, but that would help people enjoy solo play through a and pve server challenges

[tropic crag]

So, what's to stop a member of a mega tribe from making a proxy tribe and running the boss solo, abusing the mechanic? Lmao

[bold juniper]

Because it wouldn’t matter

[tropic crag]

Kinda gotta think it through a bit more

[bold juniper]

It would be just as difficult

[tropic crag]

That makes no sense

[winged dome]

I think there's 8 missions you can skip - Alpha Gauntlets (Bog, Snow, Volcano, Space), Team basketballs aren't required if I remember correctly, so still a few more able to be skipped

[bold juniper]

Yeah the boss has less ho but now it focuses you

[winged dome]

I skipped the Ice Fishing missions because the last time I played Gen1 was when they were bugged and no fish would bite

[bold juniper]

You used to be able to glitch’s. Ferox into the gauntlets

[tropic crag]

Team basketballs count towards the total last I checked

[winged dome]

Tek Giga hunt was BS until I learned the Basilisk/Skiff cheese 😂

Actually, most hunts in Alpha were BS until I used that

[blissful perch]

Default breeding and crop grow speed rates are near impossible to use in solo. But with modified ini and settings yes solo is possible with normal human playtimes. Or if you have a dedicated server 😂

[tropic crag]

Cope harder /j

(I did my first few playthroughs of the game and all DLCs with vanilla settings)

[blissful perch]

Also…singleplayer basketball was fine on genesis 1 on all difficulties. I think in the true “SP” for non dedicated it was broken tho

[mint swan]

im so hyped for ark two sucks i play ps4 and dont have a new xbox and or a pc

[tropic crag]

You literally can't initiate the team basketball missions... whe

[blissful perch]

I believe those didn’t count as formal missions? They didn’t show in my mission count when I did them in MP

[tropic crag]

Minimum players is 2, and they do count

Towards the total mission count

[blissful perch]

Point being though is that true SP ≠ being a solo on official

True SP needs to be balanced and scaled accordingly, in both time and stats/fairness. But solo on MP should be the same as in a tribe

[tropic crag]

All I gotta say is, Ark 2 better not have any content that can't be accessed solo (which is what I believe Charlie meant to say)

[tropic crag]

In what way? I don't understand, do you mean the increase engram points? Or maybe the slightly adjusted boss health? Because those don't really change much 😂

[lone igloo]

They do count but you don’t require all the missions on gen 1

For alpha

[blissful perch]

Not having broken team missions or timers that expect 24/7 dedi server uptime

[lone igloo]

There’s 6 extra missions

Either 6 or 3

[tropic crag]

Besides, if you aren't playing on a dedi, then that's obviously impossible with official stats

[mint swan]

true SP as in singelplayer with the singleplayer settings? The boosted ones WC added a while ago?

[stray elm]

I hope Kelvin from Sons-of-the-Forest is in ARK-2.
Man is so loved, that he had a measurement of temperature named after him.

[tropic crag]

Yes... we know

[untold ingot]

Wait, you mean actually making the difficulty slider affect the actual difficulty of the game? 😳😳😳, mind blowing lol

[winged dome]

That did always kind of annoy me, how 'Difficulty' just affected wild creatures level scaling

[past wind]

There's no difficulty slider for the solo players playing on official servers though.

That's what I meant. But if the majority is ok with the current state, that's fine.

[winged dome]

If you're playing the game solo in SP, then you adjust the rates to be something more reasonable for your time. Easy to do and built into the game UI. I don't see anything about this that needs to be changed 🤷

[tropic crag]

He's not talking about singleplayer, lol

[winged dome]

Maybe I missed something then 😂

[thick moat]

There SP Settings too that make the game easier for solos, like bosses being scaled down for example

[tropic crag]

But again, I have no idea how they would implement mechanics that make a solo player have an easier time while also not making it abusable by no lifers and megas

[untold ingot]

I still think the biggest issue with difficulty in ark is the exponential scaling of hp and damage quality on leveled tames. It is completely out of sync with any of the challenges in the game. Get your first moderately good tame and the only challenge is afk farm until you can easily beat bosses in a dps rush. Ark has too many things that scale exponentially for players while staying linear for the environment

[desert swallow]

And anything that can knock you off dino and can kill you is complained about

[untold ingot]

That actually isn't an issue imo

[tropic crag]

Yeaaaaaaaah... lol

If people legitimately, unironically complain about thylas doing what they're supposed to do, then that's just a good old fashioned skill issue

[desert swallow]

raptors, microraptors etc

raptors were changed back, they were one of the only threats

if you have a dino and know what you are doing, there is almost 0 reason you should die to pve

[fair pasture]

^^^ this

[south lance]

nah fuck thylas i wanna fly casually through the redwoods

itd be my favorite biome but for those shitters

[mint swan]

well said!

[south lance]

basically no games actually scale linearly

if you upgrade something, you incidentally upgrade like 20 more things alongside it

but the exponential tame stat increase is gross

[bold juniper]

[split dove]

🪦 🧌 🪓

[past wind]

True, but this is probably the only way to solo bosses. LOL

I've been playing solo lately, after years on official pvp. The super OP rexes/deinos/etc are the only way to do everything solo.

Sure people can create alliances for those situations, but still, would be nice to have some scalability by the number of players joining the boss arena. Not sure if this is possible.

The fact Ark 2 will focus on the "souls combat" mechanics, might fix that. I mean, I hope boss fights will be more interesting than today.

[south lance]

you can do some bosses without much prep

[split dove]

it seems the ''ark 1 on UE5'' situation has lured out the ''We want Ark 1 remade in UE5'' people and some are currently stroking themselves hard, next Nooblets video will probably be ''We made Wildcard listen as they gave a announcement with a meme image with Ark 1 and UE5'' where he strokes his ego acting like it was thanks to the morons like him and not something Wildcard planned to do as a final thing for Ark 1 if that's actually what will happen.

sucks to be those morons as Ark 2 will still happen and be successful even if they don't buy it and moan that Ark 1 won't have major updates anymore

[past wind]

Im talking about doing 100% of them. I want more scalability, but if that's not possible, we can always do what we did on Ark 1.

[potent hull]

but flobs do they no remaking ark 1 to ue5 or bring ark 1 to ue5 will be hard and will tack time

[south lance]

fair ya

[split dove]

oh i know, but it's funny to let them think they won and that ark 2 isn't coming anymore

[potent hull]

ok lol

[south lance]

i do wanna see ue5 in action

[past wind]

I hope Dollie won't complain about the community overhyping stuff after that meme

[south lance]

idk how porting ark1 to ue5 would work

[split dove]

''the community did overhype over that''

[past wind]

[winged dome]

Wonder if its going to be a separate version, or a forced upgrade, and if mods are going to break

[split dove]

if that's what they tried to hint at then probably a upgrade and mods would have to be ported over

[winged dome]

Yeah, makes sense now that I think about it. Shame, a lot of my old mods will probably never be ported

[past wind]

I'm not even sure it will be free.

I mean, it's been almost 8 years since original release

Usually a remaster version is paid

[south lance]

lol itd be funny if its paid

like 60 dollars

[ripe cedar]

it could just be an update to the existing game

[south lance]

^

but idk how itd work

[past wind]

Sure it can, but i can be paid also LOL

[bold juniper]

im not seeing enough santiago

[past wind]

actually it could be just a meme and no UE5 version is on the works

[south lance]

😔

[past wind]

everything is possible

[bold juniper]

nah its confirmed

[past wind]

No... it's not

[bold juniper]

pretty sure they said ark is going to ue5

[stray elm]

You know, a good comparison I just thought of for ARK-2.
Dying-Light 2 was a good game, but a bit of a downgrade from the first game in some departments that made the first game loved.
That's my own personal take of fear for ARK-2.

[past wind]

No, they didn't

[stray elm]

They slightly did in a meme

[past wind]

Like I've said above, it could just be a meme

[stray elm]

Then someone asked if they're joking, and Dollie said something like "I wouldn't joke about something this big" or something like that.

[bold juniper]

and i think its a good thing if it isnt a paid for upgrade

[past wind]

I mean, people here don't trust an Xbox banner, but a meme is trustable?

[bold juniper]

idc if ark 2 comes out in the next five years if ark one is getting new stuffs

[ripe cedar]

its from the devs themselves

[past wind]

BUT it is a MEME

[stray elm]

Yes.
Cause one comes from the dev's themselfs, and the other doesn't.

[ripe cedar]

if we cant trust them then we cant trust anyone

[bold juniper]

xbox banner is out of company, the meme was shared by almost everyone at wildcard

[stray elm]

And?

[past wind]

LOL ok then

We will see

[bold juniper]

i think ark on eu5 is a great thing

[stray elm]

My only issue with the UE5 upgrade are mods.

[stray elm]

Engine Unreal 5?

[bold juniper]

mods will be easier to make

[stray elm]

That's not the issue.

[bold juniper]

yes

[ripe cedar]

european union

[bold juniper]

yeah we will lose some great mods, but think of the potential

[stray elm]

The issue is that mods that aren't being updated anymore, but still being played wont be compatible with UE5.

[stray elm]

Skyrim: Anniversary Edition.

[thick moat]

i have a feeling it will just be an additional mode when u press play

[bold juniper]

an unfortunate loss, but again, eu5 is a huge improvement

[stray elm]

That one fucking update fucked over so many mods, and rippled the community.

[past wind]

If it doesn't hinder Ark 2 development, I'm fine with it

[thick moat]

if it doesn't, it's a late christmas miracle

[bold juniper]

why? Do you wish for ark 1 to die faster?

[stray elm]

It'd be better if it was its own installation, then an update. (for at least PC.)

Hell, I'd personally pay for a ARK Remaster.

[thick moat]

same

[past wind]

Not at all, I just don't want another Ark 2 delay. That's all

[thick moat]

a complete one obviously

[bold juniper]

same as long as i dont gotta pay for dlc

[stray elm]

Yeah, like the Ultimate Survivor Edition, but for UE5.

[bold juniper]

well the faster ark 2 comes out the faster ark 1 dies, so them riding the train is perfectly fine specialy if that makes ark2 more stable and fun

[thick moat]

the best thing would be if it's size would be compressed to something more managable

[stray elm]

I think that'd be the best course of action if they don't want a lot of mods to be broken.

[past wind]

In that case, I want Ark 1 to die faster

But I don't think that's what will happen

[bold juniper]

well then you arent an ark fan

[stray elm]

Why not both?

[past wind]

I think both will be here for a while

[bold juniper]

because a game like ark is time expensive, its very hard to play two survival games

[stray elm]

Why not keep both games alive?
Not everyone will like ARK-2, and not everyone new to ARK will like ARK-1.
They're both very profitable games.

[past wind]

but he seems to think Ark 2 will kill Ark 1

[bold juniper]

it will definately decrease the population

[stray elm]

Then that's a 'you' issue.
It's up to 'you' what to play.

[past wind]

So what?

[thick moat]

depends on how different it is and if it feels very different from the original imo

[bold juniper]

that sounds like killing a game

[thick moat]

if it's a direct "upgrade" ark 1 may most likely just become a nostalgia trip and that's it

[past wind]

I'm already bored of Ark 1, I can play Ark 2 while you keep playing Ark 1

[stray elm]

It will defiantly decrease it, but not 'kill' it.
Again, there's gonna be a community either playing both games, or that don't like ARK-2.

[thick moat]

we'll see tomorrow what is their plan on the community crunch

I hope they don't leave us hanging

[bold juniper]

the point is it doesnt realy matter if ark2 is delayed if ark1 still gets substantial content

[past wind]

I guess they will just post the community corner 🤡

[bold juniper]

i hope it is all in memes

[past wind]

Like they didn't hint anything

[thick moat]

ahahaha fr

[bold juniper]

i want the entire crunch to be cryptic memes

[stray elm]

TRUE

[thick moat]

that would be lowkey kinda fun and annoying

[past wind]

Maybe it won't matter to you, but it would matter to me

[stray elm]

Honestly, I wished they fucking gave us countdowns again

[bold juniper]

keep the community interested

[past wind]

I want Ark 2, not Ark 1 remaster

[stray elm]

Best thing with Aberration-Genesis-1, where the countdowns.

[past wind]

It was awesome

[thick moat]

i remember the extinction one, so hypee

i think I still have an image of it

[ripe cedar]

you definately aren't an ark fan if it isn't your least favorite game

[stray elm]

Funny how the green-ish ting of the wasteland in the banner actually looked better then the in-game wasteland

[winged dome]

Genesis1 countdown page with the VR component was awesome. Plus the slowly swelling song gave me chills

[past wind]

Im a huge fan, I hate Ark will all my heart

[thick moat]

all I remember rn is it was very red and it changed as time went on

[thick moat]

there are games that are more annoying than ark out there fr

[past wind]

The countdown for Ark 2 should be Vindiagos bald head revealling new stuff

[thick moat]

league, for honor are my personal hate love relationship

[thick moat]

a new hair grows where you can click and see new info XD

[last burrow]

Make what you want of it 😛

[stray elm]

Get fucked.

[thick moat]

btw all devs tweeting this emoji "😌 " is a giveaway too, jeremy even RTd it

[ripe cedar]

well yeah but because if you are an ark fan it will be your most played game it will still have the most hatred even if you played another game just as much you would hate that more

[stray elm]

Yeah, when fucking 'Jeremy' starts tweeting. You know it's real shit

[south lance]

you love ark when you arent playing it

[stray elm]

That man only talks once a year, so it's usually like a Genie finally speaking after billions of years.

[past wind]

Thanks, I didnt see that.

[thick moat]

hell nah man ahhaah, trust me, you wouldn't know how disgusting for honor and league can be, I have like 4k+ hours in those over the years

[last burrow]

Np!

[ripe cedar]

means you haven't played enough ark bro, get at it

[potent hull]

we want ark 2 we want ark 2

[last burrow]

I want Ark 2 to take as long as WC needs to make it nice. I'd rather not have a release date until they are putting finishing touches on it, and can give a realistic date. Really wish it was like that for all games, people are too angry when things get pushed back, but then also complain when a game is rushed and broken

[thick moat]

maybe 5k hours aint enough huh

[south lance]

its mainly an info thing

ive seen the same sorta thing with another game

devs used to post info monthly, community was pretty happy

then they announced theyll post info twice a year and the community died and everyone left is cynical

[last burrow]

For me, I'll take info whenever it's ready. I'm pretty patient though 🤣

Years of playing Runescape and mining... click, wait, click, wait, click, etc...

[split dove]

Looking for jobs also let's time fly by, last month flew by rather quick

[last burrow]

Getting old and having kids helps time fly 🤣

Gonna go to sleep tonight, wake up, and it'll be April already

[south lance]

a lot of the people in the other community im talking about were hs teens who realized theyll be in college by the time of a potential release

guessing that could be a bummer

most people who play ark and are active enough to talk about it here seem to be pretty old tho

[potent hull]

think of this what if the meme for ark 1 meant ark 2 in ue5 how ark is going in to ue5 but is ark 2 both are the same and not the same

[thick moat]

im really young and thank god I have a lot of time for my interests while studying and working, im really lucky

so ill be able to enjoy ark 2 if it comes this year

[lyric kayak]

@potent hull pretty sure they confirmed its ark 1 getting an upgrade.

[split dove]

''Put simply: with ARK 2, our goal is to make the game that we all wanted ARK 1 to be – now that we’ve had the time, resources, and knowledge to do it right. So in 2023 on Xbox & PC Game Pass, we’ll look forward to seeing you all in this new world of primeval creatures and legendary heroes.''
It kinda can be about ark 2 if you look at it this way.

[thick moat]

imagine tomorrow they show ark 2 and the ark 1 remastered, dream situation

[fair pasture]

oor. it could just be a meme to cause hype, interest, and focus ahead of the xbox event....

[split dove]

Would be a wildcard thing to do and drop a trailer like Scorched did out of nowhere lol

[fair pasture]

speculations is a great advertisement.

[thick moat]

they've never done it

[winged dome]

I forget, didn't they have some torn dossier notes prior to Scorched?

[thick moat]

i think that was aberration

[split dove]

iirc that event will be more of a game direct for 4 games with extended looks, ark 2 not being listed but could be part of a game pass section

[winged dome]

Or was it straight to trailer

Yeah, Ab definitely had torn notes, thought SE did too before reveal

Maybe not

[thick moat]

could be

[split dove]

Abberation launch just reused the first trailer which was clearly with visuals that weren't the final version

[tropic forge]

[split dove]

🪓

[unborn galleon]

Xbox event when

[split dove]

January 25th

Don't get your hopes up unless they tease something

[potent hull]

do they have to tease someing

just hop is there is all

[split dove]

They don't have to, but it would be nice and appreciated as we're eager to know more about Ark 2 and the gameplay

It's still their game and up to them if they want to share/tease

[unborn galleon]

It's our game

And we pay for it

We keep them having a job

[stray elm]

Legally, you're wrong.
And financially, they can form a new community if they wanted to. (Bethesda, Blizzard, Activision have all done this)

[thick moat]

ark 2 ain't no one's property but wildcard

even if you buy it, digital games aren't even ours

[winged dome]

No, our game is posting nothing but Bob in the Ark Animated chat

[stray elm]

All you legally own when you buy the game is the 'rights' to use the product.

But again, this can be all thrown away if the game requires you to agree to its ToS that at any moment, you can be banned from the game. (like MMO's)

[past wind]

I know I want this over Ark 1 Remaster. And if the remaster will hinder Ark 2 development, I don't want it.

[tropic forge]

wait all this conversation is still about that ark 1 UE5 joke?

[fair pasture]

It rly isnt. its their game to do as they want with. but it is in their interest to keep their current fanbase entertained and awaiting the release. no company has to release any demo, trailer or gameplay videos. but this generates hype, and increases sales, therefore they do.

[rotund grail]

Ark 2 come out Easter

[ember oracle]

@split dove ark 2 won’t be at the event on the 25th.

They announced the 4 games that will be there since it’s not really a huge event . It’s a deep dive into forza minecraft legends redfall and eso

[past wind]

"and the latest info for Xbox games launching in the next few months, including The Elder Scrolls Online, Forza Motorsport, Minecraft Legends, and Redfall."

I wouldn't say they limited the show to those games

BUT I would wait WC say something tomorrow

If they don't confirm they will attend the event, I wouldn't count on that

[ember oracle]

@past wind it is limited to theese games trust lol

They said it in another thing

There gonna have a lot of deep dives throughout the year tho. Like star field is gonna get its own

[astral token]

Did they confirm they'd be on the Xbox Game Showcase last year?

[thick moat]

no, they showed us the 2nd trailer on June at the xbox and bethesda showcase

that's all

[astral token]

Exactly

ARK II is being marketed so poorly like bruh

I am not an expert by any means

But I guess letting people know what's up will only create talk and clout

[stray elm]

I personally don't care if the gameplay trailer is a bit janky.
I kind of wanna just see something

They can take as long as they need for the game itself, but I wanna see 'something' with gameplay

[thick moat]

they showed the game too early for it's own good

[astral token]

The trailers so far have been
December 2020
June 2022

So next trailer gonna be in December 2024 💀

[thick moat]

most likely it's an NDA that's holding them back on showing something or it's still on a stage where we shouldnt see it, i think it's NDA most likely, if the assets on the trailers are actually true that is

i really think they just had to polish some things up and the game is close to being shown imo

[astral token]

If the game is close to ready we'd have seen a few mysterious tweets

Like we saw for a month before the animated show

[thick moat]

NDA

[blissful perch]

And there should never be

Official servers should have a singular fixed difficulty. If you want to change it on your own server go ahead, but official is official for a reason

[past wind]

I don’t want a slider. Others talked about the difficulty slider. I just want mechanics that make it possible to lone wolfs to get to the End Game.

[blissful perch]

I think mechanics for dedicated singleplayer are fine

[past wind]

It could be like Altas, where the bosses just spawn randomly and people kill it together

[blissful perch]

but on official servers you should be incentivized to collaborate or form formal tribes

[past wind]

Not talking about single player

[past wind]

Sure, what I’ve said above would be good IMO

[blissful perch]

I think it would incentivize people not collaborating and opting to take the easier solo route to get their progression

[past wind]

But the way Ark is now, you are almost required to be in a tribe

[blissful perch]

it would be like having WoW raids that are designed for a team...or another way easier solo raid with the same reward

[past wind]

The solo route isn’t easier

[blissful perch]

it's by nature easier because you don't have to collaborate or depend upon others

[past wind]

I would say is less conflictive

Not easier per say

I mean, I’ve players on big tribes, mid sized tribes, small tribes and lately solo

[blissful perch]

you're capped in terms of complexity (a single person can only do X actions per minute) when making a boss fight if you design it for solo versus multiplayer

[past wind]

Too many people, too much trouble👿

[blissful perch]

by nature that split will incentivize people to "run solo" even if those folks are in a bigger tribe

[past wind]

Something like Atlas would be nice

[blissful perch]

if you want people to group up as WC seems to want to do, you should make it extremely hard to solo. Not impossible cough engrams

but SoT does a good job of making it possible but extremely hard to survive on the seas on a solo sloop

[past wind]

The bosses spawn and people go together to kill it. You don’t have to know or play with each other. You join just to kill the boss

[blissful perch]

that's still the same difficulty though

but yes, the "lobby" style arena teleports are limiting

the major benefit, which I support, is that you can't cheese bosses as easily or use weird structures/tames when you are forced into a set arena with set rules

you can't for example suddenly throw 100 gigas and a turret wall at the dragon because the arena forbids it

[past wind]

Well, just do what people have been saying for a while: don’t let the creatures be too OP

[blissful perch]

That’s important for balance in all cases, but for bosses specifically you COULD mandate specific tames or experience from players in a curated arena

[past wind]

I hope there won’t be arenas anymore

[blissful perch]

For example in theory you could have an Astro only boss fight. If you didn’t have a forced mission setting, who’s to say anyone would use the intended tame?

[lime forge]

As someone who’s played a large amount of WoW I’d like to add that solo play in content that requires groups of people is more convenient than easy. In fact it’s often harder, most WoW players will attest that LFR is more often than not more difficult than the heroic difficulty of a raid due to lack of communication.

[past wind]

Just make it irrelevant to have tames

Gigas shouldn’t exist the way they are on Ark 1

[past wind]

For bosses I mean

[blissful perch]

I’m not sure how you’d ever do that

[past wind]

New combat system, new weapons, new mechanics etc

[blissful perch]

How does that make tames irrelevant for bosses?

A tame is still likely to be a major step up from an on foot character

[past wind]

In a way you won’t need a super mutated tames to win the boss fights

[blissful perch]

But what does that have to do with arenas?

Arenas still block turret cheese or tame spam cheese

And the likelihood of having neither turrets nor tames seems to be near 0

[lime forge]

I hope there’s not turrets or explosives

[past wind]

Not having arenas make it possible to have huge parties to kill bosses. That’s all

[blissful perch]

Sounds like a balance nightmare

[blissful perch]

Plant X or velos seem extremely plausible

[lime forge]

It also makes it possible to cheese the boss through sheer numbers

[blissful perch]

The conceptual “turret” seems foundational to ark

[lime forge]

I could get down on that. I just want more siege warfare and less soaking until it’s safe to c4 a wall.

[past wind]

Now imagine sieging super powerful bosses with primitive machines like a trebuchet🤣

Instead of whistling to 20 rexes

[blissful perch]

You can still do that in an arena with scripted siege weapons

[past wind]

I want Ark 2 to be as open world as possible. Boss fights included.

[lime forge]

World bosses are definitely an enticing idea. Having to utilize siege equipment would also be very entertaining in my opinion. Like imagine a PvE server where the largest tribes set up fortresses around the outskirts of a map to effectively stop world bosses from running rampant.

[past wind]

The boss spawns at X region > people join to fight it> people kill it > people close to it get the ascensions/engrams/etc

[lime forge]

Bosses having set spawn timers would definitely be a turn off though now that I consider it.

[south lance]

this would be so dope man

[past wind]

I like the dodorex and dodowyvern fights

[south lance]

imagine having random people across the server actually having to band together in alliances to stop the aratai legions

[past wind]

They just have to work on that concept

Seasonal bosses are awesome

[south lance]

id like to consider aratai groups to be effectively a kind of boss

at least, you could use aratai to make boss fights

[lime forge]

That would be incredible. Even having aratai forts that are themselves bossfights, they send out patrols to harass the server until enough people get together to lay siege to their fort and kill their commanders to stop it.

[south lance]

id like having to somehow fight off 300 aratai with their own dinos on your own, kinda like gen1 boss fight but with improved AI so you actually have to think

[past wind]

Right? There’s plenty of better ideas than just arena fights

[south lance]

id really like random spawn aratai forts

i dont know how possible this is

or if not random spawn, weekly events

[past wind]

Me neither, just throwing some ideas

[south lance]

or maybe just monthly

[past wind]

Hear me out: seasonal

[south lance]

have a massive aratai raid event every month, with various stages and buildings being built in somewhat real time

[past wind]

Helloween, Christmas etc

[south lance]

yeah there could be mega events

[past wind]

Special bosses

[lime forge]

Weekly to monthly spawn anywhere on the map. Players have to actively scout to find it and then cooperate to take it down. That would be cool.

[past wind]

There’s nothing like events to make things interesting again

[south lance]

every now and then the aratai bring some element demon (just to make sure we are still in the ark universe)

[past wind]

The population of Ark always rises for the events

[south lance]

santiago realizes he cant run away from element and ark 3 is him finding out how to destroy it

[south lance]

the only issue is if it becomes a farm thing like osds

i mean osds are kinda fun and you can definitely freshen the concept up with new mechanics

[lime forge]

That’s honestly how I see the story progressing. Aratai utilizing element in what they believe is some ritualistic magic giving them power, when it’s actually just the corruption.

[south lance]

id like it to actually work here

so like with how managarmr and owls are symbiotic with the element rather than just being parasatized by it

on arat, the element and arat biosphere have already merged together symbiotically

though we see absolutely no evidence for anything about element on arat

it might just be some sort of magic thing here

[lime forge]

Yeah, that’s what I’m thinking. I also think that there’s gonna be an Aratai faction that realizes it’s no good, breaks off, and ally with the survivors to fight back.

[south lance]

itd be cool if theres like, some special bunch of superweapons created by the gods of the ark universe and element is just one of them

though now im going waaay too far from ark lol

[lime forge]

That might just be preprogrammed story telling from the amount of fantasy books I read

[south lance]

ive been binging warhammer content for the past month

[lime forge]

I’ve never gotten into war hammer. I’m starting horizon zero dawn this weekend. I’ve heard a lot of good things about it.

[south lance]

i dont play the games, i just love the setting

[lime forge]

Ah. That’s how I am with halo anymore. I love the books.

They should write Ark books.

[south lance]

on this point, i wonder if people would enjoy it more if they werent rewarded directly for this

it sounds insane, but i think the primary point should be to defend your base/server from destruction

i think thatd be potentially more fun than just turning this into loot farm

[lime forge]

I would say world buffs akin to gen 2 mission completion would be a good reward.

[south lance]

i was thinking just cosmetics

but like good ones

i dont want this to be super arcadey, i want people to actually fear aratai

this might even be good for pvp since it means theres something to do besides raid bobs

and assuming an aratai server threat, id probably make it so the main force tends to attack large established bases rather than small huts, tho these would generallly be destroyed too depending on placement

so you can start playing in the middle of a raid event without being completely trashed every second

[lime forge]

Cosmetics are also cool. I was thinking world debuffs when they spawn. Something like creatures spawn less often, and creatures taming slower. Then upon defeating them we get temporary world buffs.

[south lance]

sure ya

id like the main reward to be not getting wiped in any case

[lime forge]

Imagine PvP tribes actually having to band together to protect the server.

[south lance]

im not sure if thatd be as common, but maybe

it might be taken advantage of in pvp, but i think if its done so without being excessive its fine

so like say someone is raiding you, aratai invasion begins, number 1 threat isnt players but arstai destroying everything

[lime forge]

Yeah, if the Aratai are gonna be of any kind of relevance they need to be dangerous enough to wipe even set up tribes. Otherwise they’re just another creature underfoot.

[south lance]

thatd stop the raid which might be a little annoying but usually as long as you have somrthing to do youll probably be fine, and itd be interesting seeing how the raided react

[south lance]

ya ark devs really need to get a grip on this

[lime forge]

My thoughts exactly. I want danger not inconvenience

[south lance]

not everything needs to be like ascending quality tiers in minecraft or whatever

its supposed to be a survival game

[lime forge]

The benefits this would bring to PvE servers is beyond measure.

[south lance]

the only thing thats kinda punishing atm is water cause im too lazy to make shit for it lol

and im bobbing around 1x

let alone some jacked 4 year tribe on pve

plus itd encourage less spammy builds id hope if its implemented well

aratai should burn down your spam, silly pve players

[lime forge]

Omg

Aratai could be server janitors

[south lance]

bases could be less bloated

[lime forge]

Just clearing pillar spam

[south lance]

ya

[lime forge]

Shifter said the other day “if I have to worry about getting offlined in PvE I’m gonna be irritated”

[south lance]

sounds like a skill issue

though you could make raids take multiple days

they slowly chip down your defenses and such

id say if youre offline for 3 or 4 days thats a you issue

at most, make separate pve servers where the super casuals live

where nothing happens

[lime forge]

I kind of agree. But it would suck to come home from vacation and be wiped.

[south lance]

and its just scenic

[south lance]

ig maybe, but tiu should have a tribe if youre big enough that your progress isnt something you can gain back pretty easily

all of this assumes less than current amounts of loot rng though, which is probably unrealistic

i think rng will remain a crutch for handling a massive loot table

[lime forge]

If loot tables are like Ark currently, I’m gonna be disappointed.

[south lance]

if rng exists, then its probably gonna be hard to get back bases

like my biggest issue isnt even resources

during events resourxes are really easy to get esp on gen2 and otherwise

its bps and tames, both having an insane rng component

[lime forge]

I’d rather my craftables be upgradeable through the new component based system. Allowing me to make a weapon and then continue upgrading that same weapon as I advance.

[south lance]

breeding is rng, loot is rng, the two most important desirable are completely based on rng

you cant actually do things yourself cause the fix for the rng issue is volume, mass breeding and massive amounts of drop runs

yet another plus for ultramassive tribes

[south lance]

this is probably desirable

[lime forge]

Rng wouldn’t be terrible if it wasn’t for how diluted the current loot pools are. Like if you open a red crate you’re just as likely to get a single c4 as you are an ascendant saddle bp.

[south lance]

though i dont want it to become like you own a single superweapon and have to spend 200 hours grinding a new one

[south lance]

ya fair, though i think thats the point of rng

theres just too much loot

even if you raise the number of good items, its just too much

id prefer more regions that guaranteed something

[lavish rain]

[lime forge]

Me too.

[south lance]

this cave for flak, this cave for guns, etc

rather than just relying on some 6 year old message on ark forums saying that this cave is likely to give you x

[lime forge]

Yeah. Loot rng should be based off of either quality or type not both.

[south lance]

id probably prefer just type if given the decision

quality differences make an insane difference

[lime forge]

Like this cave will give flak, the rng being the quality. Or this cave gives top quality, but what top quality item you get is rng.

[south lance]

i kinda dislike quality variance overall

change it to 3 tiers at most

instead of a continuous span across 198 percent

(for weapons, idr the span for armor)

[lime forge]

This might push the rpg aspects to the limit but I’d honestly prefer something like gearscore or item level like used in a lot of other mmos

It’s just a good consistent, balanced way to handle gear.

[south lance]

item level sounds good

basically what i meant to say in my tiers point

level 1, 2 , 3 bow and other items

[lime forge]

I could get behind that.

Different tiers of quality, meaning my level 3 bow and your level 3 bow are essentially the same?

Maybe we can add components to really make the weapon our own?

[south lance]

id like components to add side grades

[south lance]

yes, exact same

[south lance]

in this case, itd be similar to things like scopes and silencers on guns in ark atm

but specific to the new weapons and conditions in ark2

so maybe a grapple hook becomes a component on crossbows

a saddle can be equipped with various bags or whatever

you could possibly replace weapon tiers with component system entirely

then youd need to balance the game around said components, but implied in that is that there is not the same continuous quality variance which is a massive plus

cause im not sure if any game has component crafting for gear where each component has a widely varying quality

you could probably do it ofc, but itd be the most painful system ever

[lime forge]

The new crafting system in wow actuall implements this. All crafting materials have a rank from 1-5 and the quality of your components directly affects the quality of your finished product. It’s a very good system.

[south lance]

how are components gained

is it partially rng?

like you enter a dungeon, different levels are likely to have higher rank items?

[lime forge]

You harvest mats, the higher your harvesting skill the higher chance you have to get higher quality mats, higher quality mats make higher quality components, which then translate to a higher quality finished product. With rng in the form of inspiration. Inspiration is a chance to randomly craft something up to a rank higher than what your skill guarantees.

[south lance]

that sounds interesting

[lime forge]

But at a certain point in harvesting you are guaranteed to harvest higher quality mats

There’s just rng to get better and more of the item

[south lance]

sounds like crafting skill

[lime forge]

It is. They actually implemented skill trees and specializations in all the crafting professions.

[south lance]

wows system sounds really complicated

[lime forge]

It is at a glance. But once you start to use it things start to simplify.

I’m really curious to see what WC has cooked up.

Someday they gotta tell us something right?

[south lance]

hoping some time in feb

i dont think we can expect much in jan

[lime forge]

I’m cautiously hopeful for the Xbox thing at the end of the month but I don’t expect anything

[tropic crag]

Not any more than caves 😈 (yes I will bring up the old shit and start the beef yet again for no reason long after the conversation is dead other than to be a troublemaking ne'er do well MWAHAHA)

[tropic crag]

Isn't this kinda the point?

[tropic forge]

ho man random spawn forts, open world bosses that give major rewards and all those " ideas" being talk like you own the company and thats how the game gonna be ufff dreaming sounds nice but get real all those ideas dont work at all on a game like this 1 random fort spawn means big chance someone will have their base wipe every time a fort spawns 2 open world bosses that big big rewards thats just cheese as hell as lvl1 could go there give a punch to the boss and get some reward 😄 and 3 dont thing wc gives rats ass to any those ideas thats being talk here 🤣

[supple gyro]

Tully Monster for ark 2

[astral token]

Is this a game of thrones reference 💀

[supple gyro]

Lmao

[lime forge]

English only in the server please.

[tropic crag]

Just gonna say, if they didn't intend to parse through all the player wants and such about the game, they wouldn't have made the channel, simple as. Be as cynical as you want, but they have literally stated on record that they read this channel. Do with that information as you will. For me, that's an open invitation to state things I'd both like and dislike to see in the game, but to each their own.

[lime forge]

You tell him pikmin

[stray elm]

Can we get Kelvin in ARK-2?

[lime forge]

Tf is a Kelvin

Is that Iron mans robot?

[stray elm]

@tropic crag I still personally think it'd be nice to have NPC companions in ARK-2.
Akin to Kelvin in the Sons-of-the-Forest trailer, but procedurally generated in their appearance.

[tropic crag]

I have a feeling we might, idk. Something about the fact that there's other humans and humanoid species in the game makes it seem possible

[lime forge]

The last thing I want is npc followers.

That just doesn’t seem to fit well.

[tropic crag]

Tfw your dinos are technically NPC followers:

[stray elm]

We're 99% getting NPC's in a form of at least stationary story-characters. Since how else will Vin be voicing Santiago?
But yeah, it all depends how much they'll want to expand on that.

[tropic crag]

[stray elm]

I still want my own Aratai's.

[lime forge]

Dinos fit though. I don’t like the idea of sentient humanoid followers.

[stray elm]

It's funny how people will say 'Human NPC's wont suit the game'
Even though most people will play with other players/humans that're more OP then any AI will ever be.

[tropic crag]

What if they had a good reason for following you? Would that change your stance, even a little? Think about it 🙂

[tropic crag]

I mean, have you seen some of the no-lifers in some tribes? Basically an NPC 🤣

[lime forge]

Followers for like a mission or something is one thing. It certainly doesn’t have anything to do with balance though. Not sure where she pulled that from.

But hired thugs like Skyrim employs. Nah, I don’t want anything to do with it.

[tropic crag]

Whomst? I'm confused

[stray elm]

More or less.
Which would personally give low-pop tribes a more fair advantage to capped-tribes.
Could even apply the same rules to them, and you can't have any companions if you're in a full tribe, since a companion takes a slot.

[tropic crag]

• insert man pointing at head meme here *

[lime forge]

There we go. Artificial mega tribes just what we need.

[tropic crag]

It's the perfect counter

Literally what I've been asking for

/j

[stray elm]

The point of PvP is to be an all out war.
'Soooooooo'
Every tribe being maxed doesn't sound half bad. 👀

[tropic crag]

@mint swan , who are you? Why you dming me, bud? Do I know you?

[mint swan]

Why’d you take it so personal

[spiral crag]

I haven't played ark for like 2 years but I'm getting back into it rn because I want to experience the switch for when ark 2 comes

[tropic crag]

Why'd you assume I took it personally, lmao

Just asking you questions

[mint swan]

You assumed I assumed

[lime forge]

If by switch you mean the console, I’d save your money. It’s not worth it imo

[mint swan]

All I said was how are you

[tropic crag]

I didn't assume jack, lol, but ok

[spiral crag]

I already have it

[mint swan]

Alright man collll

[tropic crag]

And all I asked was who you were

[stray elm]

There's also the reality that not every human like each other. So making new friends or groups is hard, especially in PvP where no one trusts each other.
But if you have AI companions, then you don't 'need' to worry about all of this. Since the AI will follow your orders to the absolute T, instead of fucking backstabbing you like that ass Jake that I used to know.

[tropic crag]

For the record

[mint swan]

“The one and only”

That’s who

[stray elm]

@tropic crag Ignore them.
Give me all of the attention.

[lime forge]

Man how bad do you need friends haha

[tropic crag]

Literally just pressed ignore on the DM

[mint swan]

Cool

[stray elm]

But yeah, adding AI allies that have the same rules as players (or even more) would help a lot for low-population tribes.

[lime forge]

That would also provide the unfair advantage of having a tribe with 100% active time compared to others.

[tropic crag]

It may, but I yet again see how it could be abused by megas, if it works the way I think it does, or some of my previously mentioned tribe stuff isn't implemented (long cooldown on join/leave/creation, one tribe per account, etc.)

[mint swan]

Maybe there could be village tribes full of NPCs that will provide trade shops or other services

[stray elm]

That's the likely case.

[lime forge]

Really hoping to see traders

[tropic crag]

I foresee at least one safezone-esque place in Ark 2

[stray elm]

Oh defiantly, and it's a system that'd need to be thought out more then some random person online, I.E me.
But the general 'concept' of it seems nice.

[lime forge]

Would be so cool if I could rp as Billy the Kid and steal peoples tames and sell them.

[tropic crag]

Most likely housing the NPC quest/mission givers, if nothing else

[lime forge]

Yeah. I’m sure Vin will keep the peace in his village.

[tropic crag]

Sell them back to their tribes as ransom tames, for the unique mats they got from the other side of the map that you don't want to travel a day to get 🤣

[lime forge]

Go in there looking to kick an enemy tribes ass and now Vins all “I’m in your face now!”

[celest solstice]

ark 2 isnt gonna be as good as ark 1 thats for sure

cuase there are no dino

[lime forge]

It’s gonna be better

[celest solstice]

the pvp system isnt good

[tropic crag]

Comedy gold right here, boys and ghouls

[lime forge]

^thats bait pikmin. Do not engage. I repeat. Do not engage!

[celest solstice]

that game will die out pretty fast mark my words

its always like that on every game

first part is goo and then second isnt

[celest solstice]

maybe its something for pve players tho

idk

[lime forge]

It’s always the PlayStation guys.

[celest solstice]

i cam from pc

[lime forge]

I can only imagine why

[celest solstice]

4k hours

its just my opinion

u have to respect it

[thick moat]

I mean saying some words isn't an opinion

[lime forge]

So that’s not true at all

[celest solstice]

what is not true

[lime forge]

I don’t have to respect anything.

[thick moat]

If u tell us why the game will fail sure, ill respect it

[celest solstice]

if ur a bad human beeing yeah

[thick moat]

Lol

[celest solstice]

i told you

the pvp system and no dinosaurs

[thick moat]

It's not even out

[tropic crag]

"The game will be bad guyz, trust me bros" is always a great source

[lime forge]

See now why would I respect that opinion that’s based on absolutely nothing but your imagination?

[tropic crag]

And a poor one, at that

[celest solstice]

well see you guys later then when its released

[stray elm]

Oooh boy, you dummys took the bait.
Let me get my popcorn.

[thick moat]

Well we got Nostradamus here

[elfin pumice]

Ignore them

[lime forge]

There’s dinosaurs in both trailers. And absolutely no info on PvP

[tropic crag]

Redemption arc achieved

[celest solstice]

bunch of pve players thats why

[thick moat]

Loool

Devil arc?

[lime forge]

Should have took my own advice and not engaged

[celest solstice]

not even respecting my opinion like wtf

[thick moat]

I didn't see I was late

[tropic crag]

Gotta love beeing a human beeing

[stray elm]

I love beans

[celest solstice]

[tropic crag]

Bees

[lime forge]

Tell me where “no dinosaurs” comes from and I’ll consider respecting your opinion.

[stray elm]

Be

[tropic crag]

Bears

[celest solstice]

without dinosaur is boring thats what made ark 1 good

[tropic crag]

Beets

[stray elm]

Beads. 👀

[tropic crag]

Battlestar Galactica

[celest solstice]

leaked information

[stray elm]

Beetles

[lime forge]

So why are there dinosaurs in every trailer?

[fallow niche]

There are dinosaurs in both trailers

[stray elm]

YOU!!

[celest solstice]

no

[tropic crag]

Yes

[stray elm]

Stop engaging with them!
You're taking the bait!!

[celest solstice]

these dinosaurs cant be tamed tho

[thick moat]

Hahahah now you are making it obvious

[lime forge]

Yep. Gonna file that opinion in the trash can. I tried though.

[celest solstice]

its just a normal discussion

[stray elm]

Anyway, about that weather Bruise, huh?

[celest solstice]

you dont know that stuff right

[stray elm]

I hope ARK-2 will have a seasonal system.

[tropic crag]

Wasting a troll's time and hopefully provoking them to a ban with calm discourse is my favorite hobby

[thick moat]

[stray elm]

w a t

[tropic crag]

Yeah, what

[celest solstice]

a ban for my opinion?

[fallow niche]

Na

[stray elm]

I never thought I'd hear that name again.

[stray elm]

Hey, can jaycurds message be deleted?

[mint swan]

That’s how you stop cha fright there

[celest solstice]

im hyped to for this game but thats just what i think will happen

[lime forge]

I’d ban people for their opinions.

I’m not a mod though so I can’t

[mint swan]

My opinion doesn’t matter

[tropic crag]

I love this chat

[thick moat]

Based

[tropic crag]

Never change

[fallow niche]

That's still not how that works

[stray elm]

Country.....

[fallow niche]

..

[tropic crag]

Except when it gets bad, then do change

[celest solstice]

true xbox ark players

[stray elm]

shadman isn't a good person.
That's what I'm referring to.

[fallow niche]

We have rules, bring it back to ark 2 y'all

[mint swan]

When did i say I played ark

[lime forge]

How do you guys think bans will work in Ark 2

[stray elm]

Yes, and I was trying to with seasons.

[tropic crag]

I want to change my underwear (in Ark 2)

[stray elm]

You can slightly do that in ARK-1

[mint swan]

Sorry auto correct 🤓

[stray elm]

The underwear skins can be dyed.

[tropic crag]

But

[mint swan]

💀

[tropic crag]

But this chat is about Ark 2

[celest solstice]

what about the pvp system

[stray elm]

No, it's actually about ark-2

[tropic crag]

Bootleg 😈

[celest solstice]

its gonna be in a dark souls style

[fallow niche]

Personally I'd rather start out with some clothes other than just undies but yk 😂

[tropic crag]

Skill based combat, woot wooooooooot

[stray elm]

Ew.

[celest solstice]

not skill bases

[stray elm]

That's unbased for a survival-game.
I want my underwear.

[celest solstice]

its skill bases rn

[mint swan]

I want drills and cave mining for late game raids

[tropic crag]

I wanna start out in my birthday suit 😏

[stray elm]

Or, if it was my choice we'd be going true Unga-Bunga and go Conan style.

[fallow niche]

[tropic crag]

But we know that wouldn't fly

Unlike bees

[celest solstice]

ark 1 is skill bases

[tropic crag]

Which do fly

[celest solstice]

aiming

[stray elm]

AAYYEE!!
Conan style.

[lime forge]

Gonna file that one in the trash as well

[stray elm]

A wingless bee can't

[celest solstice]

all under 200 hours i feel ike

beach bobs

play beginner server

[tropic crag]

Ignore, provoke, enrage. Never forget

[stray elm]

Technically, ants are wingless bees.

[tropic crag]

How dare

[celest solstice]

yep ignore e cause u guys knw im right

[mint swan]

NAW

[celest solstice]

pve

pve army

[tropic crag]

Literally already so mad by me literally just not addressing them 🤣

[thick moat]

Fr

[tropic crag]

Licherally

As the brits say

[stray elm]

Bri-Ish

[celest solstice]

have fun in ark 2

[tropic crag]

Oh naurrrrrrrrrrrrr

[celest solstice]

im out ark 1 is the best

[tropic crag]

G'day

Ok, I'm tired now

[stray elm]

G'day me fuckers.

[tropic crag]

Gee willickers

Alright, night folks

[stray elm]

Night

[mint swan]

Studio wildcard’s Ark 2 should do a collaboration with “Atlus hit game persona 5 “

[unborn galleon]

Hype can die

😋

[lime forge]

My hype died

[thick moat]

Rip

[blissful perch]

Hard disagree. Without turrets there’s no way to defend a base while a player is offline. Unlike caves, that’s a major element to how PvP functions

[blissful perch]

…this is the closest I’ve ever seen to Fox being right about half design

[south lance]

first two points are just a details issue, last point applies to literally the entire channel

you can just have small no build zones or get the algorithm to spawn far away from player bases or any number of other things. Open world bosses are also not inherently impossible to handle in this game, and assuming theyll be cheesable basically ignores the point that ark2 is trying to make entities actually fight well with the whole AI stuff

its like saying we should expect 3 dino gate traps to work in ark2 because they do in ark1

can you cheese more advanced AI? maybe, depends on how its implemented

[blissful perch]

It’s by nature cheesable

[south lance]

no?

[blissful perch]

There’s no amount of AI or combat mechanic changes that can make an open world boss not cheesable in an ark title

If you allow people in a sandbox game to use the full sandbox toolkit, there will be cheese

[south lance]

thats mainly a trend

[ocean tendon]

they should add bullet jumping like in warframe

[south lance]

the guarantee isnt a necessity though

[ocean tendon]

[south lance]

its not some law of nature, just likely basically

[blissful perch]

It’s a fact that the outcome of allowing a sandbox player to use any sandbox tool will lead to the formation and primary usage of cheese strats

[south lance]

if the devs actually want to update their game after releasing content and ignoring bug fixes/stat changes, they can probably sort out cheese

[blissful perch]

They are barely keeping up with cheese in curated and limited environments of ark 1 boss arenas

[south lance]

thats because they suck at updating ark1 content

more than most game devs

[blissful perch]

Right but imagine if I can now build structures near boss fights. ooof that’s a lotta cheese potential

[south lance]

maybe there could be a shift in philosophy after ark2

[blissful perch]

Or i kite said boss into people’s bases to chip it down while clearing out the map

[south lance]

if a miniboss (control its aggro so you dont just lead it everywhere to destroy enemy bases) can just destroy any structure it aggros onto pretty easily, then itll be fine

[blissful perch]

It’ll be fine if it’s used to wipe other people in PvE?

[south lance]

aggro control isnt going to be that hard if you just set some hard limits on how it can follow you

i literally just mentioned that you can probably figure out a way to control its aggro so you dont lead it 30 kilometers

[blissful perch]

Add hard limits to following and the cheese potential grows even larger since you can just sit at the edge of the aggro range and pepper it with ranged attacks

[south lance]

so like, imagine a random spawn alpha rex protecting its eggs, it only spawns in very well known regions where you can figure if you want to build there or not at your own risk

[blissful perch]

Yea, and I’m imaging in it will be cheesed. Because it’s very easy to cheese

Which for events is fine, but for bosses I really would prefer a curated experience

[south lance]

im talking about open world minibosses as is

[blissful perch]

Make me use a weird tame, make me use X mechanic.

[south lance]

not main bosses

i do like the concept of alphas, i just think they can be implemented better

[blissful perch]

The original conversation seemed to be about World bosses over arena bosses

If you want to depart and chat minibosses that’s fine