ark-2

[past wind]

my point is, they need find a way in between

[south lance]

or just generally put tames

[next pelican]

I remember my firs one, up all night and then get it to juvie, just to pass out during a meat run while filling the troughs and it died by the time I woke up

[south lance]

you could solve this by making the map enormous too

like imagine gen2 without tek suit

[next pelican]

Not like it mattered tho, itdd probably ask for dimetrodon kibble or something stupid like that

[south lance]

and like real terrain and not some goofy mountains here and there

[past wind]

That's crazy, I don't want that. But I also wouldn't like something that allow us to carry 300 dinos in our personal inventories.

[next pelican]

Pop em in a basket

Lil dino picnic basket

[split dove]

won't matter if theres gonna be tames that traverse it as fast as the meawing does to get around the whole map, for gen 2 it took a few min but basicly any other map is 1 min to the other side

[past wind]

Corrected: I woudn't like

[south lance]

yeah maewings shouldnt exist

[next pelican]

:(

I wanna put a dodo in a basket man

[south lance]

like we all love them but thats only because ark1 already makes map size irrelevant

[past wind]

I think on Ark 2, if you want to move dinos, you will have to do the old way

[south lance]

with slightly slower tames

[next pelican]

Honestly if the pathing on the dinos is fine, that shouldnt be so bad

[split dove]

just like pegos, seagulls, troodons, microcraptors and jellyfish i want to see them crash and burn in the opening of ark 2

[south lance]

i love them too much for making ark1 as accessible as they do travel wise

it is easily the most efficient travel mount

[past wind]

We were able to carry small dinos in pens, built on platforms (quetz, brontos etc).

[split dove]

shit just got faster and faster with every dlc lol

[south lance]

you dont even need to breed them and they already are faster than everything in game

[next pelican]

But equally if breeding isnt overhauled raising is gonna be a nightmare

[south lance]

literally parasaur difficulty its amazing

[next pelican]

Not even that I just think itdd be cute to carry like, a basket of dodos around

[past wind]

It will, I'm 99% sure

[south lance]

well provided you have a netgun

thats the hardest part about taming a maewing lol

[split dove]

or trap it with some bilboards

[next pelican]

Make it an easter event item

[south lance]

i never got such traps to work

[split dove]

skill issue fr

[past wind]

It can be done, but my point is, please WC, don't bring any items like Cryopods back

[south lance]

maybe

but at least netgun has one positive impact on the game

[next pelican]

I suppose in time we will see

God that reminds me why they made cryopods actually

[past wind]

breeding can be done in specific structures/buildings

[next pelican]

Servers, PVE servers at least used to cap out on dinos

[past wind]

Atlas does that. Even Ark does that with mods.

[split dove]

they should instead of cryos introduce a dino storrage stable building that you can upload your creatures in, but can only download back after a ammount of time. sort of a primitve expensive transmitter

[next pelican]

I think the limit was 5.5k and if you ever hit it, you cant tame, you cant hatch eggs, you cant breed and the server would lag immensly

[south lance]

i dont really want any fancy dino storage, just more decent sized crevices would be fine

[past wind]

That's what I think would be the best

[next pelican]

Then they added crypods and pop

[south lance]

or make more elevated base spots that take a stupid amount of time to get to

[next pelican]

Problem never came back

[past wind]

And that's what I think will be the new "Creatures Management System"

[split dove]

cryos should've been more expensive tbh for what they are

[south lance]

so like the jungle on crystal isles is good if it werent for crystal wyverns and every speedy flier/glider

[next pelican]

I think for certain some degree of creature storage is neccesary

[south lance]

people should be able to set up a base in more spots

[next pelican]

They were so cheap to encourage people to pod their tames cuz it was making servers laggy

[south lance]

that actually might be a massive plus for cryos

[past wind]

It's not just the cost, but the ability to carry a lot of creatures in your inventory

[stray elm]

Sooooo, if ARK-2 has a creature voting booth.
Y'all mind sighing my petition for slime-mold?

[south lance]

idk how much server lag was caused by having 4000 tames wagging about

[split dove]

and instantly toss them out

[next pelican]

No im voting for the sentient dodo basket

[south lance]

i dig glowy pulsating slime armor

[past wind]

Introduce structures/pre-built buildings where we will be able to storage our tames

[split dove]

yh, an actual unique tame

[south lance]

yes on the condition that its glowy

[stray elm]

Hear me out.
The sentient dodo basket 'is' slime

[stray elm]

Fair.
It can live in caves

[south lance]

sure

[next pelican]

The more you speak about this slime of yours the more innapropriate it sounds

What color is it?

It better not be white

[stray elm]

Any color ARK-2 supports

[south lance]

maybe its amphibious, lives on the shores of cave rivers, uses its light to capture a species of small flying fish that uses light to escape and reach the wider world

[stray elm]

Ooooh, kind of like a Angler-fish, but more closer to the shore.

[south lance]

now i want flying fish in ark

yk that wouldve been a cool idea if water was relevant

[stray elm]

Those are real, so we could have a alien version.

[next pelican]

Dolphin

Whale

[south lance]

fuck dolphin tho

[next pelican]

Me after a friday night

[stray elm]

There's legit flying fishes.
They more glide then fly, but still

[next pelican]

Vin diesel can be a flying fish

If he asks nicely

[stray elm]

He is a fish

[next pelican]

Can he fly tho

[stray elm]

Strap a jetpack on him

[next pelican]

We need tek in ark 2 so vin diesel can be a flying fish

@developers you better be writing this down

[stray elm]

The downside of having no-tek

[past wind]

There will be tek, but we won't have total control over it

tek will be here and there

[winged dome]

I don't mind if it shows up in a narrative sense, but I'd prefer not to have players utilize it outside of specific instances

[blissful perch]

...what

slime molds are impressive due to their animal like activity in an organism that normally exists as a spread of loosely collected cells. Intelligence is not used to describe slime molds XD

[stray elm]

Intelligence isn't what I'd call it, it was just the first thing that came into my head.
There has been studies that they can remember pathing of mazes.
Which is impressive for something without a brain.

[blissful perch]

impressive for sure. I do respect fungus quite a bit more after learning about slime molds

[stray elm]

I've heard they're fun guys to hang around

[hazy elm]

I think this game is a rumor i think all WC has done is have fun making CGI with Vin Diesel in it.

I bet if it does exist it looks exactly the same as Ark 1 just with better texture resolution.

[plain orchid]

If ark is so good why isnt there an ark tw-
Oh.

[potent hull]

there making ark2

[stray elm]

That's the joke

[iron sequoia]

Lol

[graceful glacier]

who knows, will be there pvp in ark2 or it will be pve only?

[marble thunder]

"Online PvP" on the steam page.

[wise shadow]

and better server stability duh

well i might be asking for too much

[polar trellis]

ah yes i see great hollowing comes to ark 2 community 😂

[lavish sparrow]

Will ark 2 be updated to unreal engine 5.1?

The nanitr rendering now supports foliage which if wildcard doesn't update to 5.1 if it's possible then it's a hugely missed opportunity

[lavish sparrow]

Bro ark 1 was made in 8 months using unreal engine 4

With 25 employees

Wildcard now has close to 100 is using unreal engine 5 and has way more knowledge surrounding unreal engine

On top of that they have been making it for 4 years

[elfin pumice]

And way more money

[lavish sparrow]

the lawsuit that inspired wildcard to make scorched earth paid ruined the game tbh

The game only feels complete with all the dlc maps

I'm hoping ark 2's maps will be free/cheaply priced

[blissful perch]

the alternative financing model is some form of subscription, since ark runs as a games as service...either battle pass/loot box style optional payments or more standard subscription fees to use official servers

since...you need money to develop a game and run servers for it

[lavish sparrow]

just charge £70

worked for god of war ragnarok

[blissful perch]

are you talking about the first party PS game?

[restive gate]

When we will see the gameplay for ark 2؟

[blissful perch]

when you see the little "1" number next to announcements, followed by an announcement showing gameplay

[south lance]

closest possible is the next game show thing

dec 8?

[split dove]

for this year yes

[blissful perch]

we assume that, yes

I gave the actual, 100% true answer

[south lance]

longest possible is prob fall 2023

any later and like, idk where they get their money

[lavish sparrow]

will ark 2 be free to play early access or will we have to pay to playtest their fucking game lmao

[south lance]

i still cant believe switch is that huge of a success

[lavish sparrow]

?

[blissful perch]

free to play EA is meme technology

[lavish sparrow]

Free early access is reasonable

[split dove]

no lol

[lavish sparrow]

I shouldn't be paying to play a game early

[blissful perch]

you don't have to, it's literally optional

[lavish sparrow]

Companies pay people to beta test their game

[blissful perch]

EA is so people can buy the game far ahead of schedule (or support a prototype that isn't finished) to help with development and FUND it

[south lance]

^

[split dove]

i forgot that Wildcard was in fact ea rich and just wants to scam players duh /s

[blissful perch]

if you want free beta testing, expect to be required to sign NDAs, be on a schedule, and have a very small number of testers...because it's a completely different concept from early access

[blissful perch]

imagine being scammed by a product you were fully informed about and bought anyway 😂. WC you sly dogs

[split dove]

it's the fault of WC being greedy tricksters

[past wind]

If we are talking about possibilities, well, it could be today. They never confirmed they would attend TGA. Also, they never said where the gameplay would be published.

[south lance]

thatd be weird though

[past wind]

Why?

[south lance]

because its tradition to drop big announcements at shows about game announcements

plus more people will see it there

[split dove]

yh, game awards has more publicity than wildcard dropping it out of nowhere on youtube

[south lance]

ye

[past wind]

A small gameplay isn’t really a big announcement actually

[south lance]

i mean it reinvigorates hype by letting people know the game exists

assuming the gameplay shown is actually appealing

[past wind]

Unless they have the actual date for the release, I don’t know if they would need that kind of publicity

[south lance]

most people probably barely remember ark2 now outside this community

maybe

thats why i got concerned when nothing was dropped during extralife and recently that game review

though ig we wouldnt see it release any time earlier than summer next year regardless

has wc ever even dropped dlc during the first 5 months of a year

something in may maybe

[past wind]

Ark 1 had virtually zero marketing and look where we are today

[south lance]

thats fair but ark1 is the only halfway ambitious survival game imo

also ends up being the biggest

it found itself in a very empty niche

or at least i assume so, idk if there was other sandbox survival back in 2016

rust ig?

[split dove]

as far as i know only gen 1 in February 2020, all other dlc except for gen 2 were at the end of the year

[south lance]

but rust is just pvp, without pvp i dont think anyone cares about it

[south lance]

aight

[past wind]

My point is people still overestimate the impacts of such events

Developers are more and more hosting their own shows

It’s cheaper and easier to make it happen

[blissful perch]

cheaper?

[past wind]

And yeah, I believe Extra Life was the perfect opportunity for it, but it didn’t happen unfortunately

[blissful perch]

you just send your video to the event team...that's pretty cheap

and they handle drawing the crowd of general viewers who in turn may be exposed to your game

[past wind]

I’m pretty sure you have to pay for the spot

[blissful perch]

I'm sure you do, because it's financially appealing to be in a large event

much larger ROI than trying to release a marketing/promotional piece to your existing (active and engaged) playerbase

[past wind]

Let me say it again, if they have a date to put in the end of this gameplay footage, it would worth the money spent

[blissful perch]

disagree

[past wind]

But just showing some random gameplay footage with no date…

[past wind]

That’s fair

[blissful perch]

the date is nearly meaningless if it's more than six months out, since people won't be able to act on a date that far out anyway (and WC as well as many many other people have poor history of keeping up with distant dates)

all it does is create a false expectation

[past wind]

Also, we will see. First week of December they will hint something, if they are to attend the show

[past wind]

That’s my point, using TGA to hype the final moths until release

But like I said, we are entitled to have different opinions

[blissful perch]

ok but we have no idea if we're in that home stretch

[past wind]

My whole point is this, if they are not getting ready to release soon, won’t worth to pay for the TGA spot

My opinion, of course

[blissful perch]

ah, well then I extra disagree 🙂

the ROI on one of the largest high profile annual PC gaming events is likely pretty high, even if you won't release until an undetermined time the next year

[hazy elm]

Ark 2 2025 I can feel it

[ripe marsh]

doubt that

[thick moat]

we'll know with the community crunch of the 2nd, if they don't say anything... i wouldnt expect much..

[naive meteor]

How much is ark 2 going to cost

[past wind]

It wasn't announced yet

[stray elm]

We don't know.
But seeing how it'll come out in Early-Access again. Possibly 20$ to 50$ USD.
But this is just my own thoughts.

[proud chasm]

When Ark 2 release the game will be old, 3 years wating

[stray elm]

[past wind]

🤯 Shocking! A game taking 3 years in development?! Wow! Impressive!

[marble thunder]

Even 3 years is not that much, given the ambition of ARK 2 and all the features.

[stray elm]

3 years is pretty short for development of a huge game.

Though, ARK-2 could've been in the backburner since Extinction.

[thick moat]

I hope it's been 5-4 years in development

[iron sequoia]

Tbh I feel like it has been worked on since extinction
Then we suddenly got genesis

[stray elm]

Genesis was defiantly the start of ARK-2's marketing.
But it's hard to tell if they started during Extinction, or Genesis

[split musk]

HUMANS

[next pelican]

They mentioned it all the way back around scorched

[split musk]

they did?

[stray elm]

Before

[next pelican]

So it would have to be after then

[iron sequoia]

Yea

[stray elm]

There's always been talk of an ARK-2 even before ARK-1 was released.
But 'actual' development is what we're talking about

[next pelican]

Id imagine some scrapped stuff for ark 1 will also make it into ark 2

So it kinda depends on your definition

[stray elm]

I need to find it again, but I read this old ass interview between (I think) IGN and Jesse.
And IGN literally fucking asked if there will be an ARK-2.
This was a interview 'before' ARK-1 came out

[next pelican]

What a stupid question to ask lol

[stray elm]

Fuck that interviewer.
I wanna know about ARK-4

[next pelican]

Your sights are too low

When are we getting pix ark 2?

[stray elm]

Fuck it, the last game of the series.

Unironically though, I wonder how ARK will end.
Either with a whimper like Halo, or an actual end to the franchise.

[next pelican]

Honestly I wouldve been happy if it ended at extinction

[stray elm]

Same, but it also would've been weird to never explore the universe again with the Rockwell ending.

[next pelican]

Lets just say that didnt happen

Theoretically speaking

[stray elm]

Hard not to, when Aberration itself still exists.

Unless said theoretical universe also removed Aberration.

[next pelican]

Rockwell is still stuck in the gaurdian chamber, cant leave, abberation eventually caves in and is forgotten about

Hence all the quakes

[stray elm]

Rockwell is the Overseer, so he's able to do a lot more then just sit there.
And what happens when Humans find Aberration, an ARK littered with the very thing that we just wiped, now infecting the soil.

[next pelican]

The other arks destroy it because thats their job

Alternatively tek nuke 2 rockwell boogaloo

[stray elm]

It's their job to get rid of the element around 'them'
Aberration doesn't use its EMP blast, cause it's broken. So no ARK can reach it.

[stray elm]

Tek-Nukes would require element, which would just cause spores to go into the soil again. Causing Extinction 2.0

[next pelican]

Yknow this is raising a bunch of concerns when it comes to the fate of earth after extinction

[stray elm]

Oh yeah, which is why I thought the lava-planet in the original Genesis-2 trailer was Earth

Yeah, if we go back to Earth in ARK-2. Unless they figured out a way to wipe out element without element-based technology, then they're fucked

[next pelican]

Id like to believe theres the capacity to stop the element spread from abberation, but more likely its probably just contained in the contaminated zone between functioning arks

Alternatively rockwell has ravaged the planet and then escaped the wastes to gen2

[stray elm]

Thing is, the ARK's will break down over time since they're no longer needed

[stray elm]

Nah, Rockwell made a B-line to Arat Prime

[next pelican]

But I find that relatively hard to believe because presumably the huge number of tamed dinos would overpower him

[stray elm]

Again, he canonically runs to Arat-Prime and uploads his conscious to the Genesis-ship

[next pelican]

Oh ye I know im just speaking theoretically here

[stray elm]

Ah

[next pelican]

Could make for an interesting what-if story tho

"rockwell doesnt go to arat prime and instead remains on earth, slowly biding his time until he comes out and attacks once again!"

[stray elm]

Rockwell is still the Overseer of Aberration, so he might just be immortal.
He could've waited and sat on the crashed ARK for years until the normal ARK's broke down.
While he's waiting, he infects any creature and human that comes near the ARK, building an army

[next pelican]

What do you mean by infects?

[stray elm]

Corruption, mutated, malformed like the Corrupted Survivors in the Rockwell Prime fight, etc

[next pelican]

Yeah that would work, ive only glimpsed them personally

Now youre making me wanna write

[stray elm]

The corrupted survivors are fucking horrifying.

They have their guts hanging out, no skin, fucking like 12+ feet tall, and use their spinal-cord as their sword

[next pelican]

Oh

Average resident of england

[stray elm]

The corrupted survivors where more scary then Rockwell himself

[next pelican]

Personally ive only done the fight once and failed

[stray elm]

Alpha?

[next pelican]

Beta

[stray elm]

Damn, imagine failing at the easiest boss in the game

[next pelican]

Went in with one of the stupidly overpowered basilisks from when gen2 launched and nothing else

[stray elm]

Oof

[next pelican]

Acid pools on the floor turned it to shreds despite having like 130 thousand health

[stray elm]

Yeah, it's tick-based damage.

[next pelican]

And with a fat basilisk it does alot of ticks ._.

[stray elm]

Doesn't matter how much health you have, it'll do more the longer you stay in it

Those fuckers are deadly on a 10x boosted server

You can have a rex with a few million HP, and the damage will just adapt to it.

[next pelican]

So I saw unfortunately

[stray elm]

I believe it's like 5% of your HP per second.

[next pelican]

Jesus!

Imagine if you could weaponise that

[stray elm]

In short.
The goop-balls are the highest priority in the fight.

[next pelican]

Ill do it again one day

Probably after I finish my current project

[stray elm]

With an actual army

It's a pretty easy fight once you get those goop-balls down, and don't get cornered by like 20 corrupted survivors.

The alpha missions for it are harder then the alpha boss itself

[next pelican]

No kidding

Ill never recover from the time I spent doing star dolphin and that damned canoe race

[stray elm]

Which is sad.
I love how cinematic it is. But I still wished it was harder then 'goop balls'

[stray elm]

Don't mention the C-name

I have trauma over that mission

[next pelican]

Its not as bad when you realise you canoe backwards just as fast as you do forwards

[stray elm]

The soundtrack, once a beautiful piece, only instill anger.

[next pelican]

Just gottta have a strong drift game

Never ended up finishing survive the ark tho, thats the only one I needed

Then my character got deleted ._.

[stray elm]

Get nae-naed

[next pelican]

;-;

[velvet leaf]

Where ARK 2 gameplay

[stray elm]

Nowhere

[elfin pumice]

Hopefully soon

[unique owl]

In a time, at a place

[wind finch]

The later the better

[shy cape]

I feel like ark 2 shoots itself in the foot a bit.

Ark's can be literally any theme and create any creature from life or fantasy depending on the overseers wishes.

This planet is just... this planet. And as a result bottlenecked in terms of what can believably be there. But that's just my take lol

[wind finch]

Yeah for sure, but they can expand what is on the planet by making original sci fi / fantasty creature

For me the most important point is dinosaur, and I don't want to see wyvern anymore xD but for everything else.. doesn't matter for me

Like shadowmane etc

[blissful perch]

Aliens can be literally anything 😂. And ofc the genesis ship had many blueprints that we didn’t see on the eden or rockwell rings

[wind finch]

In the end there is only scorched earth and free maps that use "mainstream" fantasy creatures

Wyvern/phénix

[blissful perch]

Even then, it’s really only the griffin that lacks an ark touch

[wind finch]

Yeah Griffin too

But after this.. everything is original

[blissful perch]

I’m down to see them all go. I much prefer speculative biology to flat fantasy

[wind finch]

Me too

I'm not in love at all with fantasy creatures in ark

Like I said, wyvern 🥲

[blissful perch]

I think the wyverns are fine (the original 3)

Balance aside, they look at least somewhat modified to be an “ark wyvern”

[wind finch]

For me the wyvern is just an easy way to just **** the game

Oh yeah they are beautiful

Really fitting

[elfin pumice]

What are the original 3

[split dove]

i wanna find a old defunctional voidwyrm i can use for resources

[wind finch]

Fire poison electricity

But balance wise they were, and are a nightmare

[elfin pumice]

What is wrong with them

Why does everyone hate them

[wind finch]

They are stupidely strong

[next pelican]

I look forward to when all of the voidwyrms are defunctional

[wind finch]

Getting a wyvern = no need for any creature in the game except an army for boss fights

They can fight better than a rex and they fly

[blissful perch]

Fire poison lightning as someone said

I think those are fine. My beef is with slapping a billion more into the game

[split dove]

they were less unbalanced when you couldn't breed them, as is with basicly every mutated creature and you had to risk something to get a new one

[next pelican]

Crystal wyverns were made breedable under the pretense that they did half of the damage and attacked twice as slowly, as well as the breath attacks being generally weaker

Regular wyverns do not have such weaknesses, the fact that theyre breedable makes them absurd

[wind finch]

Yes, making 90% of the creature less usefull than them

It's good to have weakness

[blissful perch]

They got nerfed stats as a result of being made breedable, punishing all players who didn’t want to use mutation stacking

I stg I hate mutation stacking 😂

[next pelican]

Dont even get me started on the voidwyrm

[wind finch]

I Hope that this don't carry on ark 2

[next pelican]

Useless peice of trash

[wind finch]

Lmao

They look cool tho 😏

And harder to get

[next pelican]

Which is evene less reason to get one

[wind finch]

And more so since the tek suit or a maewing is superior

[next pelican]

Yes exactly

[wind finch]

Which I hope we don't get again

[next pelican]

You wanna hand raise instead?

[wind finch]

I really do think that abberation and extinction creature (except the managamr for PvP) were the best designed one

Especially the rock drake

[wind finch]

🥲

Just the tek suit so

[next pelican]

Glad we are on the same page here

[wind finch]

Really hard to get, need to learn how to use it

Strong but not op, really usefull only in abberation

Where there was nothing else

Everytime I play ark I go on this map first

[next pelican]

Its the best map

[wind finch]

Yes by far

[next pelican]

I hope we see more enviroments like it in ark 2

They did a great job with how they did it on fjordur

[wind finch]

None of the map has made such an intricated connection in gameplay between items, creatures and map

Yeah Fjordur was really nice too, but missing something for me

[next pelican]

The teleporting kinda got to me

[wind finch]

You must like gen 1 ?

[next pelican]

No like, I didnt like it

Can you imagine how cool itdd be if you had to like, drive over a huge ocean to get to jotunheim, or fly up to the huge tree to get to vanaheim

[wind finch]

Oh yeah, that would be so cool

Didn't like it too 😁

This map is full of beautiful plage

Place*

Never know where to put my base tbh

[next pelican]

To me it felt like no matter where you put it you were missing out on something important

[wind finch]

Yeah that's kind of my feeling

Going around the map for hours with my rock drake just to see if I was REALLY sure

[next pelican]

Its a shame too cuz the map is great otherwise

[wind finch]

Yeah I do think so

Can't wait to see ark 2

But I really wish they take their time, and make something really interesting

[next pelican]

Look as loong as the people who made maps like abb, fjordur and gen1 are working on the map on ark 2 im sure itll be fine

[wind finch]

I would like not to feel that the Map is empty

[wind finch]

I Hope that you are right

[blissful perch]

That’s what happens imo when maps get huge

You lose a lot of the loving detail that smaller maps like Ab had

[wind finch]

Huge Map are good for pvp

Pve wise.. heh

[blissful perch]

No. Huge maps make for low detail empty biomes

Travel time and subjective map space tho is everything

[next pelican]

A good developer can do both

[blissful perch]

*a developer with a metric ass ton of time and resources can do both. Fixed it 🙂

[next pelican]

Yeah

Like wildcard

Like they arent short on money, that much is for certian

[blissful perch]

No, but they are short on time

[next pelican]

Yeah true but they can push it back

I mean, theyve pushed stuff further back in the past cough extinction cough

[blissful perch]

Have you seen the community each event they don’t drop the game 😂

[next pelican]

Yeah I know, honestly the issue stems more from the community than the devs

[wind finch]

For me another issue with bigger Map is the lack of interest in exploring

[next pelican]

Id always much rather they take their time and release it properly than listen to the community and do another ark 1

[wind finch]

This may be biased by the fact that I've played Conan exiles for a while, but often time in ark you find a place where there is something interesting (castle in Ragnarok, ruins in the center, a lot of places in Fjordur like the dwarf Fortress) but it lack something worth exploring inside

A secret, a special item, anything

[blissful perch]

Being able to build anywhere be like 🤷‍♂️

[wind finch]

Yep 🙄

[next pelican]

Artifacts are wonderful things

[blissful perch]

We should have dungeons and such in ark 2, but to do that we have to block building and other activity that gate keeps them

[wind finch]

Yes in order to make them truly cool to explore

[wind finch]

There is not an artifact per interesting place 😕

[next pelican]

More artifactssssss

[wind finch]

Noooo

Lessssssss shiny thing

3 per bosses was enough 😂

[next pelican]

Seriosuly tho lootcrates could be nice

Perhaps cave exclusivve dinos

Or maybe enemy npc like, hideouts

[blissful perch]

I don’t mind artifacts or loot, but right now they can be easily monopolized

If they were special mission secrets that you could find while on missions or in special instances dungeons, they’d be more appealing imo

[wind finch]

Oh yes

On the same feeling

[elfin pumice]

maybe they could put exclusive materials for customizing weapons

deep into the dungeons

[blissful perch]

Or artifacts/eggs/anything interesting. Dungeons imo are a far superior late/post game repeatable grind than mutation stacking

[elfin pumice]

ye i hope they rework mutations cause they suck

[wind finch]

Boss fight suck

[blissful perch]

*boss fights have in the past been boring

I think the rockwell fight was the step on the right path with shootable projectiles and I think genesis 1/2 added a dismount portion that make the fights a bit better. But ark 1’s movement simply wasn’t ready for more engaging fights than that

[wind finch]

I wish all of the fight looks like the rockwell one, it was near perfect for this game

And extinction at least was really impressive the first time

[past wind]

Agreed. I hope Ark 1 was really a laboratory for WC and they will address the most concerning failures of the first game on Ark 2.

[onyx trellis]

Saw a lot of hype on YouTube for the Pc gaming show

[past wind]

You will a see a lot of hype coming from YouTube for no reason actually

It’s called click bait

[onyx trellis]

I see

To be clear, Ark 2 was not in the 2023 preview right?

[past wind]

It was, they’ve showed old trailers

Nothing new

[onyx trellis]

Ah okay

[split dove]

it was, just a super fast 10 sec compilation of both trailers

[onyx trellis]

That's alright

PS players won't be getting it right away anyhow 😂

[past wind]

Yeah, a PS version isn’t confirmed yet

[onyx trellis]

Why wouldn't they do it

I can almost guarantee they would have it out within two years

[split dove]

Timed exclusive with microsoft, sony not liking early access and each platform build takes time away from new additions to the game

[onyx trellis]

It doesn't matter if Sony doesn't like early access, nthey agreed to Ark 1, and it doesn't matter if there isn't any cross platform play

[onyx trellis]

Ahh so I see, making too many versions would be making the same mistake ark 1 did

[past wind]

Actually, Xbox version came a year before ps version, I think

[onyx trellis]

I know it did

[past wind]

It will be the same this time, probably

[onyx trellis]

Thats what I said

[past wind]

The difference this time is the Xbox version is coming day one

[onyx trellis]

Yee

At least we got God of War for now

[past wind]

You were saying a PS version should be realeased on 2023, but that wouldn’t be possible because of the early-access requirements by Sony

[onyx trellis]

No, not 2023

I said a ps version should be a thing, I never said it should be at launch

[past wind]

Ok then. What I think is, eventually they will announce it. The reason they didn’t now is because isn’t a priority

[onyx trellis]

Yea me too, but Flobs was saying reasons for why Microsoft wouldn't make a PS version

Did Wildcard announce ark one would eventually come out to PS4?

[past wind]

And what he said is a fact…

[onyx trellis]

I know it is, thats why I'm bringing it up

[past wind]

I don’t believe so. Older Xbox generations won’t get it neither.

[onyx trellis]

I was saying ark 1

[split dove]

only current gen consoles

[past wind]

Ark 1 is on ps4 😂

[onyx trellis]

During the initial release date, did wildcard announce it would come to PS4?

You guys aren't reading 😂

The release of ark 1, did wildcard announce it would be coming to PS in the future

Back then

[past wind]

I don’t know, I’m a pc guy 😂

[onyx trellis]

Thats an L for me

[past wind]

But they did it in advance I believe

[onyx trellis]

I'll Google it lol

It was announced in 2016 that ark 1 would be coming to ps, but it was put on hold until 2017, when the developers of ark let Sony know the game was completed for Ps players

So it was announced a year after the game was released, hopefully Wildcard will make a PS version in 2024 after Ark 2 comes out

[twilit sky]

No because like ark 1 it’s an Xbox launch exclusive

[onyx trellis]

Whats your point

[twilit sky]

Probably something more like this

It won’t release the same time as Xbox/pc

[onyx trellis]

I've already said that

Why is everyone assuming I mean at launch before reading 😂

[twilit sky]

Oh I thought you asked

😂

[onyx trellis]

That's ok

Thanks for the help tho

[twilit sky]

No I don’t think they did either, announce it during ark 1

Legally they wouldn’t have been allowed to

Sorry I think I caught up now 😂

[onyx trellis]

What?

Wildcard announced PS version in 2016

[mint swan]

Hello

[onyx trellis]

Hello

[mint swan]

Is it true that ark 1 server is shutting down next yeat?

[split dove]

no, did you watch a loadedcrysis video?

[mint swan]

No my offical friend told me

[split dove]

official servers will slowly over the years be taken down, but ark 1 servers aren't shutting down the moment ark 2 drops. unofficial servers will always remain bc the official servers are owned/moderated by wildcard themselves

[mint swan]

Oh

[past wind]

He lied or is confused

Wc didn’t announce anything like that

[mint swan]

I hope they'll make server for ark2

[split dove]

he's on official, it was to be expected somewhat

[past wind]

They’ve actually released new official servers

[mint swan]

:0

[past wind]

They definitely will

[mint swan]

Can you use ini in ark2?

[past wind]

We don’t know…

[split dove]

i hope not

[mint swan]

If i play ark without ini my ping would be lik 150

[past wind]

Ini files weren’t really used to fix the performance issues 😂

[mint swan]

Hmm

[past wind]

Specially on pvp

[mint swan]

My pc is weird

[split dove]

it was to make pvp even more ugly looking 😂

[mint swan]

I hope they'll add mana or shadow in ark 2 lol

[split dove]

🪦

[mint swan]

😋

[split dove]

i hope they stay dead with the Rockwell ring becoming ashes in space

[mint swan]

I dont really care bout story i only want pvp 🥵

😈😈😈

[ripe marsh]

L

imagine not caring about glorious bob

[thick moat]

Big L yes

[past wind]

Maybe new creatures will replace the old ones. Don’t get to attached to “names” or “breeds”.

Maybe mana isn’t coming, but something similar to it

[mint swan]

:<

[blissful perch]

I’d love to watch ark 2 PvP if it beats ark 1 PvP…but I die of boredom watching ark 1 PvP most of the time. It’s a bunch of speed gremlins, offline raids, or mat grinding and it’s super boring to watch 😂. I know it’s more fun but I just don’t see it

[split dove]

the leftclick spam combat also doesn't help

[mint swan]

🙉

[blissful perch]

No hate btw: I just want something more juicy to watch lol

[past wind]

I used to like, but it’s old af now. Same meta. So tiresome.

I would love a total revamp for pvp

[blissful perch]

I never liked 😂

[wintry urchin]

If u care about pvp why add mana or shadowmane, actually worst take known to man

[past wind]

Because they are meta. 😂

[wintry urchin]

They make the game boring and lame as fuck

Coming from someone with 5500 hours on pvp

[past wind]

Agreed. I’m just saying why most pvp players will want them

[wintry urchin]

Real pvp players wouldn't

They're just forced to use the meta

[past wind]

Maybe. But all pvp players I know don’t like Ark 2 because it might change the Metas.

[vocal estuary]

i feel like pvp is like just a thing in the game because of a very small group of people

[wintry urchin]

I hate how much of the playerbase is pve

Because everything is unbalanced for lcp

Pvp

[past wind]

I hope they will have two branches for Ark 2. One for pvp and another one for pve. Pvp should get new content less often, aiming stability.

[late mango]

Ye personally i think ark 2 pvp is gonna be pretty bad bcs of the locked pvp that's not how skill based pvp is supposed to be its gonna be like dark souls but with dinos lol

[split dove]

Locked pvp?

[late mango]

Like dark souls

[past wind]

Atlas has a souls like combat and it isn’t “locked”

[late mango]

There is a diff name for it but I can't remember

[past wind]

Only the fist fighting has aim lock

[late mango]

Its just bad pvp

It's with dashing and stuff idk how to call it lol

[past wind]

Ok, but the current pvp combat system is also bad. I will wait a gameplay footage to judge the new system.

[past wind]

Souls like

Being a souls like game doesn’t mean it will be like dark souls

[late mango]

Not really but it's just the kind of pvp is just already not wanting me to play I like the pvp style of ark rn

It's the only game with these features I have ever seen

It shouldn't be changed I like the more prim style that there gonna do but not the pvp

[past wind]

Ok, in that case, it might not be for you I suppose, if you like the current combat system I mean.

But if I were you, I would wait for gameplay footage

[late mango]

Ye prob but I'm still gonna buy it and try it maybe I will like it even though I don't like atlas or dark souls in my opinion

Well see it's still a long way

Isn't there gonna be game footage with the game awards?

[prisma pike]

For honor combat system for ark 2 fr fr

[split dove]

nothing so far has said wildcard will be at the game awards or will show gameplay there

[late mango]

Kinda hyped for that

And hopefully more news about the ark animated series cuz I really wanna watch that

[split dove]

it has been in post production since june this year, so it should be close to done

[late mango]

I hope so 🙏

[split dove]

iirc during the Pax stream in September when they and Gareth Coker talked about the music for the show he said it was i think 75% done and that the last bit tends to go faster

[thick moat]

it's not, pve and pvp are both big

just over the years pvp diminished a lot because new players getting wiped off the servers

[vocal estuary]

yeah but its like very unfocused on by the devs

[thick moat]

how

[vocal estuary]

idk tbh

[thick moat]

all the balance changes affect pve more badly than pvp

[vocal estuary]

its hard to explain

[thick moat]

mana nerfs, turret limiting adding heavy turrets, all that

[vocal estuary]

hm

[thick moat]

just to name a few

[vocal estuary]

true.

youve convinced me but i still think pve is more popular

[thick moat]

yeah right now it definetly it is

but it's because of the cheating and the current state of officials

[vocal estuary]

theres hackers on ark?

[thick moat]

oh yes yes

[vocal estuary]

damn, hows that fun

[stray elm]

No

[thick moat]

it's pretty ducked lately, people using speedhacks esps aimbot duping

[vocal estuary]

Like go play creative???

thats dissappointing, hacking any survival game literally takes the whole premise of the "survival" out

[thick moat]

fr

i hope ark 2 comes back with stronger anti cheat and moderation

[vocal estuary]

hope so

[thick moat]

at least with the new engine meshing might not be a thing anymore along with duping

[vocal estuary]

theres gonna be a new engine?

[thick moat]

yeah ark 2 is on Unreal Engine 5

it's next gen pretty much

[vocal estuary]

good, as a new player i think the current engine is kind of old school

[thick moat]

yeah the change of graphics and performance will be huge

I suggest you check some videos out, it's kinda crazy ngl

[vocal estuary]

UE5 is insane from what ive heard

[thick moat]

yup

[vocal estuary]

Imma go do that actually

[late mango]

You don't wanna know how much hackers there are but if you do play on Playstation you don't have a problem with that only steam and win10/xbox have problems with that on smalls and steam on 1x and smalls but its loaded with hackers

[late mango]

It is it just sucks cuz I bought a series s bcs I wouldn't be able to play ark 2 on my one s and ark 2 won't be playable on Playstation atleast not what I have heard off and seen

[past wind]

Yeah, compatibility with ps5 isn’t confirmed yet. Only versions confirmed so far is pc and Xbox.

[late mango]

Kinda sucks for Playstation but I think it will be on ps5 it just has to be released xbox/win10 and pc will prob have a early release

[past wind]

I believe in that too, but until they officially announce it, it will be uncertain.

[late mango]

Ye true

[past wind]

But I wouldn’t expect it before 2024/2025.

[late mango]

😭

I hope ark 2 will be on the other things before this year ends

[past wind]

Actually I couldn’t care less. 😂

I’m on pc

[late mango]

True they should've chosen the right console 😈

[past wind]

The right platform is pc

[late mango]

I have played steam version but I switched to win10 just bcs of the amount of friend I have on there

[blissful perch]

Playing ark with a controller still has me shaking

What do you bind all the whistles to? RMB + D pad input? Gyroscope? 😂

[late mango]

You can't bind them 😭

They are locked on a specific thing

[blissful perch]

You can bind them on PC afaik, why not on console 😂

[lavish rain]

It's not that bad, git Gud scrub

[blissful perch]

things you say to controller users who play a game meant for PC

[late mango]

Ye its not bad if you're used to it but if you play keyboard you can multitask

[late mango]

Ark is actually meant for xbox/win10 and pc

[lavish rain]

I play controller

[lavish rain]

🤨

[blissful perch]

*ark 2

[late mango]

No ark1 aswell

[blissful perch]

Ark 1 was entirely made on and for PC and consoles were added later just because

[late mango]

It shouldn't be on Playstation and switch idk about mobile

[blissful perch]

Mobile is basically a separate game

[late mango]

Fr?

Never played it

[blissful perch]

Yes. Tons of different systems, p2w, all that good stuff

[late mango]

I've seen vids that there are no heavies and autos in foundis its seems fun but I cba to play with those graphics

[blissful perch]

You can also use a fremium item to bring a tame back to life

Ark 2 should really only be for next gen consoles and PC…a phone or a switch would probably not survive running a game that complex

[late mango]

Tf 😂

[late mango]

Playstation hasn't even been officially announced so for now it's only pc, xbox series s and x

[blissful perch]

I’m talking about the future

Just like it’s a good time to raise the min spec requirement and have actual ground clutter in PvP

No more “bush for thee but not for me” BS

[stray elm]

They did.

[stray elm]

I've played ARK on both Pc and Xbox.
Honestly, they're both fine in their controls.

[lavish rain]

Shifter needs to get gud

[stray elm]

You said it wrong

It's 'Git Gud' you scrub

[lavish rain]

Either way, I'll be accused of schitzo moment

[untold totem]

Fear me

I played ARK, ATLAS, Conan, Last Oasis, and Rust on my XBox 360 controller with controller drift/lock... In steam mind you

[lavish rain]

Last oasis

😂

A joke of a game

[blissful perch]

I have mad respect for last oasis for junking their old struggling game design and trying a new approach

Fail or not, that’s a ballsy move

[thick moat]

THIS

another reason why we need separate balancing

same with ini bs

[blissful perch]

Why should that be separate? PvE needs bushes for stuff to hide in too

No BS “lol everything is easy to see because I removed the bushes to save 5fps” on either format 👑

[thick moat]

idk I was thinking abt the frames tbh, it may annoy some people

[blissful perch]

There are other places to optimize imo

And ofc the bushes can be low poly lol, they just need to actually obscure

[thick moat]

hmm true

didnt think of reducing the quality itself lol

[blissful perch]

It’s still not great, since obviously low quality will be the PvP standard, but that’s normal in any game ever

But turning off ground clutter that could be used as cover is basically the same as turning off walls or boxes in a shooter lol

[stray elm]

You are a schitzo

[untold ingot]

Hopefully the way things render at distance is more intentional in ark2, and the game breaking ini in encrypted

[stray elm]

Hopefully nanite will help with this

Nanite is pretty fucking jacked.
I watched a demonstration video, and it took I believe like 2-Trillion polygons in a world to finally make the FPS drop.
And that was before proper rendering, and just using pure Nanite

[untold ingot]

It should help with the first part

[stray elm]

Yeah.

Performance I'm not really worried about in ARK-2.
Unless they fuck up big time, Unreal-5 has a lot of systems already in place to help performance.
My worry is the actual glitches.

[untold ingot]

ini for graphics really should be encrypted. it wouldnt be terrible to do, but it would make hard ini intractable for most people

[stray elm]

You think it'd be possible to have online and single-player ini-settings separate, and make the online ini encrypted?

[untold ingot]

I mean, performance is and will always be a main concern for me, as the network/hardware limits of any pvp game typically decide who the "good" players are out of a batch of similar skill people

[untold ingot]

Yeah that would be possible, I dont know the details of making it work, but you dont even need hard ini in singleplayer

I am not talking about the ini settings like game.ini and gus.ini. Just the graphical ones that give insane advantage to those that use them

[stray elm]

Right, just something to either allow the settings of your save, or decrease your settings lower then the settings-menu will allow you to.

[south lance]

i hate ini edittability

take it out and fix render i wanna hide for 2 seconds

[stray elm]

Yeah, I believe the graphical ones should be allowed to change if they're tied to your own single-player game.
Online graphical ini's shouldn't be changeable.

[untold ingot]

It shouldnt be able to remove leaves from trees, even in sp

[south lance]

whats the point of a jungle if its not even dense with foliage

cause theres no foliage to be seen

[untold ingot]

Thats a more complex issue lol. Even without ini and just moderately low settings you cant hide

[stray elm]

Why not?
If its your own save, why does it matter?

[south lance]

well thats a render issue too

having certain settings on low decreases render distance

or i think its literally just a render distance setting lol

[untold ingot]

Well, the issue is because the game handles sp and online using the same basic algorithms and code. Make it accessible to change certain things in sp, and they will be hacked for a multiplayer.

[untold ingot]

Well you cant get rid of render distance

[south lance]

ik, but you can probably change how things load visually

[stray elm]

And that's where my original take of "can they separate the coding of the two ini's?"

[south lance]

theres gotta be a cheap way to load in rocks further no?

even if they look kinda shit

[untold ingot]

The answer to that is technically yes, but the game engine will continue to treat them basically the same

[stray elm]

If they have a sp ini that only effects single-player, and a online ini that you can't access. Then I don't see the issue with that.

[stray elm]

I would think otherwise if you tell the engine to read only the sp.ini if you're on a single-player save.

You are able to modify the Unreal engine if you know C++

[untold ingot]

Yes that can be done, but the issue is that the engine needs to read the same things regardless if it is sp or public. If ini can be fiddled with in sp, then it can be replicated and forced into the public version too\

[south lance]

you could try redeveloping everything in a different way in sp ig lol, game size might be a little bigger

redevelop visual assets for sp and multi

[untold ingot]

The actual code of reading the files is easy, but by having a player editable sp version basically hands hackers all they need to hack public ini

[stray elm]

There has to be a way around that.
I believe you're able to change the ini of Red-Dead 2 for your sp-save, while it doesn't effect the online of the game.

[tropic crag]

That's because those are two completely different executables, lol

[south lance]

that would be the point then

itd just increase game size

actually, drastically perhaps as dlc is added

[stray elm]

They could always have the option like Red-Dead to install online or the single-player separately.

[south lance]

idk seems like a lot of extra crap when you can just lock ini and have sp visual mods

[stray elm]

Fair, there's that also

[south lance]

since its coming with heavy mod support

[untold ingot]

Perhaps a total hard lock on ini isnt the solution, but key features such as fog and trees should definitely be unalterable beyond just reducing quality

[stray elm]

Totally forgor that.

[south lance]

nah im for hard locking ini

itd work with visual mods

just make sure your game can run ultra low

[stray elm]

I do agree with that.

[south lance]

actually does ini even significantly boost performance

i never had much gains from ini when i used to use it

[stray elm]

Yes

[thick moat]

same here

[south lance]

though my main issue was cpu

[untold ingot]

That comes with challenges of its own. Sometimes you have to edit ini to fix crashes

Its not often, but it happens

[stray elm]

You can turn off the visual foliage.

[south lance]

im gonna be overconfident in ark2 devs mot having so many visual bugs

[stray elm]

So you get only the tree bark of a tree, no grass but the grass texture on the ground, etc.

[untold ingot]

Well, the one time I tested a hard ini I went from 30 fps on ultra to 160fps. So yes it does incredibly increase performance

[south lance]

huh

maybe my issue is just cpu ig lol

[stray elm]

That'd be it

What cpu you have?

[untold ingot]

Its not an ark only issue. I have never had to fix crashes with ini in ark, but for other games (star citizen) I have

[south lance]

i5 9400f

[stray elm]

That'd be why

[south lance]

then i personally wouldnt even worry about it, its an edge case thats so far outside that even ark for all its spaghetti code doesnt get somehow

but yes im being overconfident

somewhat

[south lance]

prebuilt 😔

[stray elm]

Skill issue

[south lance]

came with 1660ti tho

all for 550

[stray elm]

What graphics card?

[south lance]

1660ti

[stray elm]

Ah

[stray elm]

Motherboard?

[south lance]

?

[stray elm]

What type of motherboard is it

[south lance]

oh i havent checked

[stray elm]

Cause if it's not some jacked shit, you just wasted 100$ USD on that PC.

[south lance]

doubt

[stray elm]

Your cpu is worth around 120$, sometimes lower to like 90$
And that GPU is like 200$

[south lance]

thats now tho

got this like 4 years ago

3*

[stray elm]

Let me see how old these are

Ah, they where actually brand new by that time.
So I guess I can see 500$ USD at that time

[mellow wadi]

my Gpu is worth $3k and my cpu is $800… and u guys r complaining abt wasting 100 bucks

[fallow niche]

Can probably take the PC specs content to #general or bring it back on topic. Thanks.

[lavish rain]

Ark 2

[lime forge]

Ark2: Waiting Evolved

[lavish rain]

In ark2 we get to carry people

[lime forge]

Ark 2: Off topic

[nocturne raptor]

Ark2: releases in 2026

Everyone says why and they say "oh cuz few glitches here and there we needa work on"

[elfin pumice]

Imagine if they pushed it back to 2023 just to include a paid dlc at launch

[wanton pike]

I hope we will get loads of Ark 2 news as a Christmas present in December 😁

[elfin pumice]

Imma ask santa for ark 2 news

[wanton pike]

We don’t have a Santa here unfortunately hahah

[split dove]

The only reason it's pushed back is to give them more time to polish it for the early access launch. And last I checked wildcard isn't facing a lawsuit that can bankrupt them this time to the point they had to let scorched be a rushed paid dlc release. I don't want another Battlefield 2042 situation where the game will be playable 1 year later bc they had to release it at a early deadline due to the publishers being greedy

[broken dune]

when did they started to develop ark 2?

[split dove]

Developpement at least started in 2020 when they announced it, could have been earlier but we don't know anything earlier than the announcement at the 2020 game awards, plus the fact of next time wildcard reveals anything ark 2 related it will be gameplay

[broken dune]

thats mean the game will not be 100% completed even at launch cuz perfect games needs 5 years to develop

or more

[split dove]

It's gonna be a early access game again, I think they want to add a whole lot more to ark 2 but want us to experience it now rather than in 2 years when it's all added in

[broken dune]

so just like ark 1

[split dove]

Basicly, ark 1 launch but improved

[broken dune]

I'm ok with that. I'll have fun even if it's not fully completed cuz it's ark

[split dove]

Early access titles can make you feel part of it's development and ark did that rather well imo

Now the team is more experienced and knows where they went wrong with ark 1

[broken dune]

yeah ark 2 will do the maximum a dinosaur survival game would do

[split dove]

Wildcard can be overambitious at times, but now they're more capable of bringing that vision to life after the experience with ark 1

[broken dune]

the only thing they can do to make a perfect game is to optimize the game and fix all the bugs we had in ark 1

which what ark 1 was lacking

[split dove]

That's what happens when you have inexperienced devs working on their first big game using spaghetti code where most problems originate from. Even if they try to it will take years and the ROI won't be as much as making a new game on a new engine that will take less time than re-writing all existing ark 1 code. But they did get a lot of stuff fixed over the years

[ionic hazel]

I will be so happy in future, when all the ark 2 believers brake their bones on Wildcard AGAIN. BCS they won't never fix anything and I will stay ark 1 waiting on you all coming back BCS Ark2 gameplay style will be so fking ugly. No tek, No cryo, No support and pvp-ripped on a pve server

Ark 2 no future

[elfin pumice]

Disagree

[lime forge]

Two things here. First it’s break here, brakes spelling is used for braking like the brakes on your car. Break is used when something is being broken. Secondly, if why would we come back to Ark 1? You still playing on an original Xbox waiting on us to come back from the 360?

[distant skiff]

ark 2 will have grappling no? ez sell

last oasis did something amazing with grappling hooks

[thick moat]

Grappling was cool on LO but I don't think that style fits with ark tbh

[ionic hazel]

@lime forge I am playing since beta and I don't lost my brain. If you like gaming sado-maso style, your choice. But I am Not horny on that

[lime forge]

English only in this server other than the lfg channels man

[ionic hazel]

Ark 2 will be a slightly better version of Atlas without the ship/boat stuff

[lime forge]

Bold of you to assume there won’t be any ships.

[blissful perch]

I’ll assume it too in solidarity with Lehrer

[lime forge]

It’s expected out of an ass like you.

[past wind]

I have to disagree. I think you did 🤔

[ionic hazel]

I would rather paying for playing teso than start fresh on an everythere pillard map. I will rofl laughing about you victims that pay 70bugs for ark 2, BCS 10 000 people will trying to log in on just like 100 server

At the same time

[wary moth]

Is it confirmed that it will be an exclusive?

[blissful perch]

For launch, yes

[wary moth]

Oh ok

Cuz I was gonna say

They wouldn't kick a quarter of their fanbase in the balls like that

[ionic hazel]

Bcs it will be a quarter and and half

[blissful perch]

They did get paid to not release on PS I assume

[wary moth]

I just gave an estimate

[blissful perch]

And I expect given the ark community that the delay won’t really drop PS sales

[wary moth]

Exclusives are shitty imo, especially keeping spiderman games as exclusives

[ionic hazel]

The release of Cyberpunk had looked like kindergarden against the mess that ark 2 will be

[blissful perch]

Agree, but that’s how consoles compete

[wary moth]

Cyberpunk actually made a good comeback tho

[blissful perch]

Too little too late to save the PR mess

[wary moth]

Eh not really, I've seen cyberpunk grow in popularity again, especially with their anime

[ionic hazel]

So we maybe will to play all together on ark3 again

[blissful perch]

People remember cyberpunk as a botched release project more than as a redemption arc

[wary moth]

Fair

[astral tiger]

ye no mans sky is a better example

[blissful perch]

I’d say NMS is similar but has had more time to repair relations

Perhaps after a few more years cyberpunk can be viewed like NMS as a redeemed product

[astral tiger]

true but the repairs have still been a lot more and a lot faster

[blissful perch]

I was the only one of my friends to double down on not refunding NMS and I’m glad I didn’t. The devs cant market but they were visionaries imo

Same with ark 2 tbh. WC are visionaries but I do question their marketing and PR strategies at times 😅

[astral tiger]

ark 2 doesnt make impossible promises as far as im aware just saying things that most ark players dont want in a sequel like third person only and dark souls type combat

[blissful perch]

True. I’m talking more about massive DLC delays for WC

[astral tiger]

impossible

[ionic hazel]

Where is Fantasy dlc, featured orks, ogas, werewolfs...? Deleted bcs of lazyness and trying to press the content in a dlc, that they recalled into Atlas and thrown out

[blissful perch]

I’m lost

Werewolves in ark 1 or 2 would be terrible

We had fantasy DLC: it’s called Ab

[astral tiger]

maybe not ferox is already kind of a werewolf

[ionic hazel]

But ferox OK, or what?

[blissful perch]

It’s not a person

[astral tiger]

true but its the same idea

[blissful perch]

I’m eh on ferox, but I’d not really call it a werewolf. At best it’s a vaguely similar concept unique to ark

[astral tiger]

also true but i think werewolfs are possible for ark if they dont transform out of humans

which kind of wouldnt make them werewolfs anymore

[untold totem]

Wat

[ionic hazel]

In Conan is no problem with any kind of slaves. Had should be added as desease like swampfever, wild Vampires/ werewolfs could bite you and you get buffs at night and debuffs at daylight (like Skyrim)

[blissful perch]

My exact logic

[untold totem]

The ferox is not a werewolf

It's an artificially made creature who has an addiction to element

[astral tiger]

yes but if you take it down to the basics then its a innocent creature that turns into a beast when X happens

[blissful perch]

Keep it in Skyrim and far away from ark 2

[ionic hazel]

Like you cure swamp fever

[untold totem]

They don't even have a "silver weakness"

[astral tiger]

yes because it isnt a exact copy of a werewolf but its the same basic premise

[untold totem]

ARK has their own reason why the ferox does what it does

Lycanthropy is not one of them

[blissful perch]

I always thought it was more Dr Jeckel Mr Hyde

[ionic hazel]

It is a were-jerboa

Combined with stitch

[untold totem]

No, the Ferox is just Gizmo

[astral tiger]

ferox is ferox

[untold totem]

But not werewolf

[astral tiger]

yes but noone said it was a werewolf

just using it as a example of how werewolfs could possibly work in ark

[blissful perch]

I’m very against high fantasy in ark. Maybe it can be swung in ark 2 as “alien”, but I’d really prefer sci fi

[untold totem]

No

Just no

[astral tiger]

im on the edge of it im fine with like maewings and manas but i dont want a lot of mythical creatures

[ionic hazel]

My wyvern say: buuuuuh!

[untold totem]

If that were the case people will use this "werewolf" as a pvp thing

Wyvern is fine why

It's in lore that they are artificially made

[blissful perch]

Idc about lore

[untold totem]

Not a curse like werewolves

[blissful perch]

Never have, probably never will. Griffens are explained in lore and I still hate that they’re in ark

[untold totem]

You gonna cope, like I am try to cope that Vin Diesel exists

[blissful perch]

I hopefully don’t have to cope if Griffens don’t show up in ark 2

Just like I’m glad tek suits are getting the boot

[astral tiger]

idc much about mythical creatures bc arks dinos already look mythical

[untold totem]

For now

[blissful perch]

“They’ll come back in a DLC” is cope technology

[astral tiger]

titanosaurus is litteraly kaiju size and giga isnt a giga anymore

[blissful perch]

“What’s next for ark, not tek” implies to me that all of ark 2 will be tek tier free

[untold totem]

Titanos are big IRL

[blissful perch]

Not wanting High fantasy ≠ wanting perfect realism

[split dove]

the fun wacky factor

[blissful perch]

I don’t want fireballs and elves, but I’m fine with creating animals that don’t exist

[untold totem]

The carcar is less realistic

[astral tiger]

we will see ig but tek coming in a dlc is pretty likely

[blissful perch]

Source: dude just trust me

[astral tiger]

then ab creatures and maewing should be fine right

[blissful perch]

There’s no indication that tek will return

[blissful perch]

Correct

[astral tiger]

how can i source a personal prediction

[astral tiger]

theres a pretty huge ship that had a shit ton of element on board on the planet

[blissful perch]

You’re fine, I’m just memeing since some people have tried to convince me of ark 2 tek in a DLC as though there’s evidence

[blissful perch]

And it broke. And also lore doesn’t matter

Gameplay > lore 100/100 times. Gameplay is chosen first, lore follows

[astral tiger]

ah yes the dlc we know about even before the game released

[split dove]

''the open world will have decorative tek structures, that means tek must be coming back soon''

[blissful perch]

^S tier cope imo lol

[untold totem]

Same with [insert non-Eden creature here] in retrospect

[astral tiger]

i wish it was like that

[blissful perch]

Which is why I roast people who say that too

[untold totem]

Basically ARK 1 before notes

[blissful perch]

For ark, it is

[split dove]

i hope to see a opening cutscene where the ring blows up and every rockwell ring only dino they wanted is seen turning into ashes 😂

[astral tiger]

they specificly stated decorative in there

[slate sapphire]

Would be pretty epic if we saw a cutscene from the gen 2 ending and how there is still scrap from the ship floating around in space.

[blissful perch]

They did specifically say there will be tek in the world, even if players can’t use it

[astral tiger]

exactly

[blissful perch]

So there’s no argument that we will encounter tek and element

[slate sapphire]

Or maybe a few of the ark 1 survivors scattered around the island

[untold totem]

oh you don't want me to recycle the Tek that is already exist and somehow functional?

[blissful perch]

But will tek suits and rifles come back? I’m suspecting nah

[astral tiger]

im hoping for some tek gear but not like in ark 1

[blissful perch]

Not only does it contradict the combat mechanics, but it also ruins the primitive game forever. So I suspect the most you’ll see is tek scrap as a material

[split dove]

metal weapon tips like in the first teaser

[blissful perch]

I think people somehow confused a primarily primitive game to mean “primarily primitive at launch”

That’s simply untrue: ark 1 was primarily primitive at launch but never purported to be primitive. Ark 2 however has stated it will seek to remain primitive which to me seems like it refers to the life of ark 2 including all DLC

[astral tiger]

im probally not even going to play ark 2 that much tho since it doesnt really sound like my style but the lore is still interesting

[blissful perch]

Lore can be interesting and still be a lower priority than gameplay

[astral tiger]

true but its not always the case

[blissful perch]

Not all games have good lore or good gameplay lol so that’s true

[ripe cedar]

Idk how any of you guys expect to use tek if you don’t have any tekgrams

[blissful perch]

We don’t even know if there are engrams let alone tek ones

[astral tiger]

you play as santiago the dude that basicly invented tek

[blissful perch]

Delete that before you’re judged

[astral tiger]

no

[blissful perch]

Santiago is a third party NPC

[astral tiger]

that makes me even more happy tbh

[blissful perch]

you do not play as Santiago. He’s voice acted as a character like HLNA that joins you on missions

[ripe cedar]

Maybe if you make your character look exactly like vin the the character creator all of the tekgrams just are unlocked

[split dove]

🔫

[astral tiger]

but then the dude who basicly invented tek is still a ally

[blissful perch]

And he isn’t sharing it sounds like

It looks like he’s actively shutting down the tek he finds 😂

[ripe cedar]

Yeah but he doesn’t want to use it because last time people used tek they fought a war with it and it didn’t end well, and if you expect humans to be able to go without waging war on each other what planet are you on because it is clearly not earth

[astral tiger]

idk santiago might just make some giant tek structure like on ab again which would actualy give santiago returning a real reason

[ionic hazel]

No cryo, No tek trough, No possibilty to seperate when dinos grown together

[astral tiger]

depends if he still has memory of that

[blissful perch]

Dino storage does not require tek to work

With some basic creativity you can make dino storage not require tek

[ionic hazel]

The cryo ball does

[blissful perch]

No tek = no cryopods but ≠ no dino storage

[ripe cedar]

Pretty sure he has all of his memories from his first life, and when he was helping build the gen ship which is how he got in the database to begin with im guessing

[turbid delta]

You’ve never used a whip?

[ionic hazel]

Soul balls or what?

[ionic hazel]

Did you ever breed 100 big dinos in a 10x 10?

And try to seperate them without cryoballs?

[blissful perch]

Ideally that’s no longer needed because mutation stacking is dead, but regardless, you can use something as simple as a stable building to store tames in

[turbid delta]

That’s not anything I’d want or try to do

[ionic hazel]

Wildcard could extend the wild levels to 300 and the new max Cap to 900. And a lot of dinos had not bred up to lv 360. Want to see Monster- vultures, dilo, diplos, dimorphs

[blissful perch]

Why?

[ionic hazel]

Why Not?

[blissful perch]

All max level does is change the stats to make foot players worse

And you will never see sympathy with me for a raised level cap. I hate mutation stacking

I’d pick a tamed level cap of 300 for ark 1 and that would be that

[ionic hazel]

Na, just If you don't know how to play. They could even seperate Island from this lv extend

But starting on gen2 is like, why do we have Island?

[blissful perch]

You’re literally scaling tames to be stronger and not scaling foot players. What I said is objective fact

[blissful perch]

This at least is fact if you raise max level

[ionic hazel]

Human are basically like dodos on ark, so giving each player 3 points per level gain should resolve the problem

So player level 30, 90 points to set

[blissful perch]

So you want to buff both tames and player stats? You’re aware that 10 hp -> 100 hp is meaningless if 10 damage -> 100 damage right?

[ionic hazel]

Given 45 in speed and you can outrun nearly anything

[blissful perch]

Thank you for bringing up another crippling design flaw with ark 1 game design

Ark 2 should have no movement speed points

[ionic hazel]

I want to extend the levels for dinos to a new max, and in comparison give 3 points per level for player

[blissful perch]

Yes, and I’m saying that’s clown technology. You’re just adding stats to everything. What does that actually solve?

You’ve made soaking easier and breeding take longer…which both seem like bad things

[ionic hazel]

Ark2 will get the crippling fight mechanic from eldenring

[blissful perch]

Speed gremlins is the most crippling fight mechanic I’ve ever seen

[ionic hazel]

Maybe ark should have resolved this issue with making the PvP part not that hard assholes style. If Pve had a nice competion mode would be good, would make PvP senseless

[blissful perch]

“‘Not that hard assholes style” makes no sense

[ionic hazel]

PvP is the pole where all sociopaths and psychopaths can follow their basic instincts and can play like they want to be in a big bang Boom. So If you play what you like, and you like to destroy people for fun, what is it telling about your mind? It's just triggering the territorial behavior sleeping in a few of some naked monkeys

[keen portal]

I hope this game is cross platform. this would be huge merging community's.

[blissful perch]

I think it’s confirmed PC/Xbox cross platform

[lunar whale]

Best Ark players I have ever met are on PVP servers. For me its the place you go when you want to get better at the game.

[keen portal]

This is the way !!

[thick moat]

unlucky im a sociopath and a psychopath then what can you do

[elfin pumice]

Yeah you need more game knowledge on pvp than you need on pve

But pvp isnt for everyone

[thick moat]

yeah it's too easy to lose everything compared to the effort you gotta put in

[ionic hazel]

Like Southpark, bullys should kill themselfes

[thick moat]

everything relies on how much hours you are active

[elfin pumice]

Even then, servers wipe, which i dont like (no wipe pvp servers arent better)

But this is ark 2 channel

[blissful perch]

Wipes for ark 2 would be S+ tier for PvP

[thick moat]

server wiping should be a standard, even on normal official, not in the style of arkpoc but more months, the longer the server goes, the less new players will attract

[blissful perch]

Bob gets it

[thick moat]

I like coming back after a year and seeing my character there but still, wiping is more beneficial than being able to come back with the same char tbh