ark-2

[robust furnace]

you are overestimating wildcard

[past wind]

If a mega wants to raid, they will need to transport all creatures by land

[robust furnace]

aren't ratholes mostly unintended?

[onyx trellis]

Have you seen the way the game looks, they're flipping rich

[untold ingot]

I mean, probably some

But they are on tons of YouTube videos and don't get patched

[onyx trellis]

The ones in Apex are intended

[past wind]

Not all of them, but allowing people to store gigas, rexes and aquatic tames in there is a little absurd

[onyx trellis]

They worked for it

[robust furnace]

i cant think of any ratholes that allow that
other than basi block

[onyx trellis]

Make taming way harder is also an idea

[past wind]

They allow it because cryopods exist

[onyx trellis]

More realistic, like you shouldn't have to knock out a dodo, you should be able to put it in captivity, them slowly feed them over time until they like you

[past wind]

I think they will kinda do that

The carchar gives us a clue

[onyx trellis]

I want to see a dodo peck at you, a raptor smell for your scent and more

Curious dinos could be interesting, I would like to be able to find more areas where dinos naturally lay their eggs, and baby dinos

[past wind]

They are definitely doing that, but we don’t know if it will cover all creatures or just some of them

[onyx trellis]

Instead of all dinos being grown, and dinos laying eggs randomly on the beach

I rlly hope so, he said I'm overestimating Wildcard but the problem was that they didn't have enough money, they have a lot now

[past wind]

There are also events with eggs and the offspring of the creatures

[onyx trellis]

Hmm?

[past wind]

There will be World events that you can engage. Like you will to recover some eggs or help creature’s offspring

[onyx trellis]

Really? Where was that information showed?

[past wind]

And by accomplishing those you will probably get tames as prizes

[past wind]

Steam and on the pins above

[onyx trellis]

I would like have some missions in the main story where you can talk to tribe people and they ask you for certain eggs for recipes

[past wind]

Look for the Founders Article

[past wind]

Another area that we’re particularly excited about is the World Event system. Rather than simply having a more-or-less static environment with easily predictable or repetitive occurrences ala ARK 1, the new World Event system is designed to ensure that unique things are always happening around the world, whether you are there or not. Events include procedurally-dynamic scenarios like watering hole gatherings, wounded creatures, tracking the signs of advanced prey, stampedes, herds, defending endangered creatures to earn their trust, finding dens of parent creatures and their young, and more. Whether you choose to engage with these events is up to you, and each can yield unique rewards and challenges.

That’s from their post. It’s pinned in this channel.

[onyx trellis]

Bro thats actually amazing

If they can do all that, im pretty darn sure they can fix nearly every mesh issue

They should have tons of game testers right, and since people are very upset about it in ark 1, you would think they would try extra hard to fix the meshes exploits

Of course based on what I just learned they are working pretty hard to make all of these new features such as stampedes and wounded creatures that sounds very interesting, and also less of a simulation feeling. I also predict a better looking way to harvest resources, the plant don't even have the berries visible. Maybe they could make some plants that give only fiber, and some bushes that give berries and fiber

[untold ingot]

You get that even AAA games made by thousands of people still have mesh holes right? It's not as simple to fix lol

[potent hull]

i hop they but weather in to ark2 like snow better rain more fog

[onyx trellis]

It is a simple fix

They just don't feel like it, and it also depends on how big the map is going to be

The code of ark one is already screwed, it would cost millions to truly "fix" the game like people want

[onyx trellis]

There is plenty of fog in ark one for me, indo want to see more rain in humid areas, would like humidity to be a factor, and of course things like wind to determine how cold it is if you are in a cold area

Also shade. Having trees give you some protection from the heat would be amazing

Of course it would be pretty difficult, but it sounds rlly good

[potent hull]

and more new foods in ark2 like more sea food

[onyx trellis]

Yes, just more sea creatures in general honestly

Where can we go to make suggestions to ark developers?

I wonder if what I've said has already crossed a developers mind

[potent hull]

the new sea creature of ark to is name Poseidon do not make hime mad lol

[onyx trellis]

Hmm

Maybe a new weapon called the death blades that kill anything instantly

Sony needs to let Xbox join and play with us PS players, it would be pretty great, just negatively affect PS servers

[untold ingot]

No not really, they can't get rid of all of them before launch, most fixes are done after the fact. Getting rid of all of them would basically mean scouring by hand every inch of a 150square kilometer map.it would take a very very long time and would delay each map as well as driving the cost up a lot lol

The best option right now is to let the engine detect mesh holes, but that is iffy at best

[turbid trout]

What you wanna talk abt boss

Its late or early morning for most

how many hours you play for

pvp or pve

Rough

yeah alot of ark players are no lifers so we really got our hopes up for Ark 2. Ive got 5k hours on pvp so its a struggle playing the game how it is rn. What you wanna know about ark 2 my man

[untold ingot]

That is the news so far

[turbid trout]

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No omnipresent radar -- animals now track and hunt by sight, sound, and smell! Hide from predators with visual camouflage and environmental obstructions, and learn to mask your scent! Dynamic pathfinding enables creatures to intelligently maneuver around obstacles and player-built structures.

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Construct your weapons and tools from a range of distinct modules to customize their look and functionality -- millions of possible combinations enable you to craft your own unique gear! The specific materials you choose will further affect the appearance of your items, with multiple options of resources found in unique regions of the world.

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Natural and unnatural occurrences are always happening across the game world, independent of your presence! Your choices in deciding whether to interact with these events will yield rewards or challenges.

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Hostile 'Aratai' hunt & attack you riding their own tamed creatures, as they seek to drive human interlopers from their world.

[untold ingot]

The term they used is souls like, but there is no telling if that is just players, or if dinos have something similar. I personally think itll be somewhat like conan, but better because dinos

[untold ingot]

You dont need to copy paste, the info is in the pins

[turbid trout]

Wild animals theres a possibility but pvp style or ridden would be tuff to do

[turbid trout]

Yeah just doing a couple basic ones

[untold ingot]

There is nothing so far saying if there will be an ocean, but I am hoping for better oceans too

[turbid trout]

Leveling is being changed

Atleast the way to level your char

[untold ingot]

The xp will be different, but there is no in depth info so far

[turbid trout]

Game was honestly very unique and good for the time it came out

[untold ingot]

Still is very unique and good for now lol

[turbid trout]

unique yes, good idk

pvp atleast , pve is still great probably

key spamming is really dinosaurs mainly but it wont do you any good

Its more just a counter game now. Just learn the counter to everything and be online 24/7 and boom never raided for pvp atleast

I personally like ark more than rust by a landslide but tek pvp really makes me not love it as much anymore

[untold ingot]

I would say that isnt true lol. Like 70% of the active playerbase is pve

This june was the highest player count for the game, ever. So while it might feel that way, ark1 is definitely thriving still lol

[untold ingot]

Yes it was

[mint swan]

It was free and the mobile version is fked up, a lot switched to the original Ark game.

But, it’s good 😊

[untold ingot]

True, but the average player count hasnt really dropped in 8 years

[iron sequoia]

Tbf I hope there isn’t any ocean in ark2, rivers, lakes ect yea but no massive body water that will have sharks mosa ect
Water content is never fun because it’s so limiting, would need to base the entire game around it like subnautica.

[elfin pumice]

disagree. there should be a more polished ocean with more content

it doesnt have to bee black or white

[iron sequoia]

Yes but the more they work on that trying to make it fun and enjoyable
Is less time they have on the surface ect

[elfin pumice]

they cant just eliminate oceans

its a big part of the game

[blissful perch]

Thank you for agreeing

[blissful perch]

They can and they should. The amount of time it would take to make souls like ocean combat alone, which would ONLY matter in one section of the map, makes me displeased at the cost to development on the rest of the game

The best possible outcome imo is oceans are scrapped in ark 2 and come out as the first DLC

[blissful perch]

It’s also not in SE, Ab, or extinction, (and is fully optional on genesis 2) so it’s only a big part of the game sometimes 🙃

[iron sequoia]

Yes ocean DLC is what should be done that way it gets the love it needs

[blissful perch]

It’s the most obvious dlc choice I can think of lol

Work on your terrestrial biosphere, game mechanics, etc -> then swing to oceans and go nuts with it. Otherwise it’s gonna lead to both land and sea feeling half baked from scope creep

Since, and lmk if you agree @iron sequoia , oceans need 1.) a total creature rebalance 2.) souls like combat implementation 3.) possible Aratai aquatic combat 4.) missions 5.) new alien aquatic species 6.) dynamic events in order to be properly developed to the ark 2 standard

[elfin pumice]

if there was a dlc whre the majority of the map was underwater i would be ok with eliminating oceans in the first map

[blissful perch]

That’s what I’m thinking yes. A small island chain perhaps and the bulk of the map is ocean

[iron sequoia]

Yes I very much agree with all that

Is there any games with underwater souls like combat?

[blissful perch]

I’ve played some games where you have dodging and the like underwater

[elfin pumice]

Agree

[blissful perch]

Not nearly as developed as “souls like”. The 3D aquatic space seems insanely hard to make mechanically heavy combat work in

[iron sequoia]

Hmm okay
The ocean has so much potential it just needs the dedicated love to make that happen
Which is where as said a DLC would be best

[blissful perch]

Correct. My goal isn’t “no oceans” it’s “oceans done right or not at all”

[elfin pumice]

The problem with nost if the map being underwater is that there should be scuba gear, but ark 2 gonna be a more primitive world

[blissful perch]

You could work around the issue with alien oxyplants or animals

You’re thinking in earth terms, gotta think in Arat terms 🧠

[elfin pumice]

Youd have to be constantly moving to find those

[blissful perch]

Not always. Imagine oxyplants being a component in crafting a biologic scuba tank

[elfin pumice]

It would be kind of stressing

[lime forge]

They definitely shouldn’t. The ocean is a large part of Ark currently and it shouldn’t be removed just because you don’t like it.

[blissful perch]

That’s why I’m excited that ark 2 is primitive. Instead of tek, stuff like the ocean DLC can bring loads of content while keeping the theme

[blissful perch]

“Correct. My goal isn’t “no oceans” it’s “oceans done right or not at all””

[lime forge]

They wouldn’t need to make souls style combat for the ocean either. That’s simply not how water works. It should be in my opinion a later tier of progression requiring high end tames and specific weapons and gear that allow you to survive and combat the creatures of the deep. Also something the size of a mosa should one shot a survivor

[blissful perch]

I’m assuming mounted combat is also going to be more souls like than ark 1’s. And I’m presuming oceans will have mounted combat

[iron sequoia]

Current ark ocean combat is tickle everything with a giant squid

[blissful perch]

Did you mean: get stunlocked by jellyfish, your model pinned to the seafloor, OR squid tickle? 😂

[lime forge]

Right. But fish and aquatic creatures can’t roll sideways. There’s several aspects of souls combat that have no place in the water.

[blissful perch]

Several aspects of terrestrial souls combat yes, which is how you arrive at my conclusion

[lime forge]

I’ve not arrived at your conclusion.

[blissful perch]

The conclusion is “if you want a well designed ocean that’s as complex and well developed as terrestrial ark 2, it’s a ton of work to make unique mechanics and features”

[lime forge]

Deep water shouldn’t be removed all together because it doesn’t fit with souls combat.

It should not only exist but come equipped with its own combat mechanics

[iron sequoia]

Exactly why ocean stuff should have it’s own time to be worked and made fun/unique

[blissful perch]

I then worked off my conclusion to say it’s not worth the dev energy to possibly sack terrestrial mechanics that will be paramount to the base early access game to shoehorn oceans in

[lime forge]

I will cry, and then throw a fit of rage if there’s not an ocean or deep sea at launch.

I’d rather see an ocean than tameable flyers

[blissful perch]

me laughing because I prefer neither in ark 2 launch

Scope creep makes games worse, and I can’t think of a biome more dangerous for scope creep in ark 2 than oceans

[lime forge]

What is scope creep?

[blissful perch]

You have X time to make Y content. But over time you add Z and A and B and C content to Y, but still have X time to make the game

So now you’ve not fully completed any of the content you wanted to complete on time, because you promised way too much

Your scope “creeps” larger than the time and budget actually allow to create a well finished product. It usually only refers to cases where the scope gets so large that the product suffers

[lime forge]

I’m sure they’ve had time to work on multiple types of biomes. I find it hard to believe that with a more powerful engine, larger staff, larger budget, and 4 times the amount of time they made Ark, that they’re gonna come out with bare bones, early access or not.

[blissful perch]

Y could be “the entire scope of terrestrial ark 2”, it’s not just one tiny thing

But what’s already promised on the founders note and steam page is a MASSIVE overhaul from ark 1. I’m impressed it’s even slated to come out in 2023 (we both know 2024 is a real chance ofc but still)

[lime forge]

I’m not. Ark was developed in like 8 months with a fraction of the resources. 3 years seems pretty on par to me for another EA.

[blissful perch]

Ark had extremely primitive mechanics across the board when it first released

[lime forge]

Don’t say 2024 I can’t take the roller coaster anymore.

[blissful perch]

20 tames, a few benches, the basic RPG leveling up system…taming that involved a single method. Gotta remember what that prototype was (barebones), which while impressive was also very clearly a small team indie project

[lime forge]

Right but it was also done with a fraction of the resources in every single aspect of its creation.

[hard trellis]

To be fair, if they're sea fight, that will probably follow similar stuff than if they're flying fight (at least for mounted)

[lime forge]

They now have far more resources in every aspect including personal experience.

[blissful perch]

Not a bad take tbh, but the other issues I highlighted still apply

[blissful perch]

And they’ve promised far and away more than they’ve ever promised…just for terrestrial gameplay

[lime forge]

That’s what I would imagine to be. More momentum based, hit and run tactics with most tames. No more sharks just sitting there biting until one dies and I’ll be happy with it.

[blissful perch]

If you’re Jesse right now, and the BASE terrestrial game isn’t coming out until late 2023 because it’s taking so long to make, would you add the massive project of adding ark 2 oceans and push release back to 2024? Or risk losing content in oceans and on land to release on time? Or would you simply drop oceans and come back at a later time in early access? I know I’d choose the third

[lime forge]

This entire statement is made under the assumption that Ark 2 oceans weren’t already a part of the given schedule and means very little to the discussion.

[blissful perch]

What’s to assume they are?

I don’t see why they’d be part of the schedule. We saw no content about them, and they can’t use the bulk of the mechanics being mentioned in the steam page without a total redesign

[prisma pike]

You mean kidnap with squid and bleed with sharks lol

Water tames got too much hp for me to sit there and bite with a squid loool

[prisma pike]

Maneater intensifies

[blissful perch]

Now that was a great game. The separated jack knifing mechanic was secretly one of the most fantastic pieces

[prisma pike]

I 100% it then they added dlcs but I couldn't be bothered to play them

[lime forge]

I don’t see any reason for them not be. We haven’t seen hardly any content at all. By this logic all Ark 2 is gonna be at launch is a jungle with souls like combat, a rex, 2 raptors, the Aratai and a couple alien species.

And vin diesel to tie it all together

[blissful perch]

I gave you a reason, which is that unlike other land biomes, oceans require exponentially more design and development resources to be created to the ark 2 standard

[tulip garnet]

Just pour water on your monitor, boom, ocean in game

[prisma pike]

Just say the oceans reeaaaaallllyyyy deep and just have a bottomless pit of water

[blissful perch]

It’s the single most developmentally intensive biome you could make lol. Every other land biome can use…other land mechanics. But oceans have to be done entirely differently

[prisma pike]

Well imm going to sleep was just seeing if anything interesting was happening in here

[tulip garnet]

Or.... It's gonna be beautifully, well done land, but the ocean is just Minecraft water blocks and seaweed

Ez gen

[prisma pike]

The ocean will be randomly generated terrain sprinkled with seaweed and filled with water

[tulip garnet]

Just reuse pixark assets

[thick oxide]

Fuutuuurrrrrre

[halcyon storm]

cant wait to beat ark 2’s threat using power of family

no actually

cant wait to see other people play it while not having access to it

[blissful perch]

It’s ok, that’s me rn with forbidden West

[cosmic thorn]

But when does it finally come out

[fallow niche]

2023

[wintry urchin]

Did they say what quarter they estimated?

Or just 2023

[fallow niche]

People are assuming Q1-Q2, we might find out more at the pc thing

[wintry urchin]

Yeah whens that?

Also for Wildcard Q1 or Q2 is hopeful, knowing them they'll announce it as Q2 but it'll come out in fucking December 2023

[fallow niche]

Today I think? On Steam, there is already something streaming.

[wintry urchin]

Hm well I'm stuck in school so I'll have to check it out later

Didn't they say the next news they mention is ARK 2 gameplay?

Because all we've seen are cinematic trailers and shit, I wanna see how it REALLY looks

[fallow niche]

Yes, STA account mentioned it. In the pinned messages here.

[wintry urchin]

Honestly I'm hyped to start fresh again

You physically cant play ark as carefree with 5600 hours as you could 5

[fallow niche]

Same lol

[wintry urchin]

Especially since it's all PVP

[split dove]

tomorrow

[fallow niche]

They're already streaming developers playing games, so I assumed today/now.

Just in case they do show Ark2 content, I'll pin this for now.

[wintry urchin]

Ok so 5 more hrs

[velvet leaf]

2023 , 31 , January

[fallow niche]

If it starts then. I don't know. I'm confused on the timer, when they're already streaming games.

[wintry urchin]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Idk bro steam crazy

[fallow niche]

can direct folks to the pins if nothing else, for possible ark 2 news (as always)

[blissful perch]

I’m hyped to not play breeding sim

If the gameplay shows mutation stacking is gone I’ll be crying tears of joy

[split dove]

if mutations are a bigger part then in ark 1 i'm doing a backflip from my roof

the only games from that list in that stream right now don't include ark 2

[fallow niche]

Oh I know, I was just saying it has started and sharing the timer

[blissful perch]

Only way I’ll accept it is if that’s the whole game. If I’m playing breeding sim, better make the gameplay better than afk simulating and the breeding more interesting than RNG

[split dove]

Ark 3 the breeding sim

[blissful perch]

I’d play the shit out of that game, but that’s not what ark seems to want to identify as lol

[past wind]

I think most part of breeding should be done in a way that doesn’t affect server performance. Basically not having hundreds of creatures released on the map, growing.

Maybe imprinting should be something to do after the creatures are fully grown. Imprint them while you ride them.

[blissful perch]

I care about the gameplay. If breeding is a hard wall to content like it is in ark 1, where you need mutations to compete in PvP or complete some of the bosses, and it takes forever to accomplish, I’m not down

If breeding is something that has benefits and can take place at a similar pacing to other forms of progression, I see it as manageable

[split dove]

but it being like a second job like it is in ark 1 ain't the way anyone wants it

[blissful perch]

Any sane person with other commitments. Gotta specify

[split dove]

i forgot the ark community doesn't have a lot of those on official

[blissful perch]

You usually can’t have commitments and play official PvP tbh unless you make content imo, but also sooo true lol

[past wind]

I’m totally open to changes, but they need to take all other factors into consideration

[past wind]

That should change, IMO

[blissful perch]

Ideally breeding is a minor part of gameplay that is used to consolidate parent stats and grow/replace your armies. I’d prefer to see that be the end of it, with maybe some icing like color mutations

[stable bronze]

Watch it play like monster hunter lol

Which I like monster hunter but I want an ark game

[robust furnace]

i hope i can still toss dodos

[past wind]

It won’t be monster hunter. It will still be Ark, with some major improvements/changes.

[mint swan]

It is gonna be a ark game

[blissful perch]

The instant you make breeding a mandatory progression metric it’s poo imo

[blissful perch]

MHW with building and tames would be sick…although would it be MH anymore lol?

[past wind]

I beg to disagree, but I don’t know your whole opinion about that regard, so you might have a good point about that opinion

[blissful perch]

I have definitely talked my opinion to death about breeding heehee

[past wind]

I mean about that specific part: breeding vs progression

[blissful perch]

The point is that stat mutations are a progression mechanic in ark 1, and create an arms race and a means through which players outscale their environment. It’s extremely harmful to the game both because it’s gate keeping and because it forces WC to balance around capped tames or forgo it and let people roll their game

[stable bronze]

Well wildcard knows we'll play whatever they throw at us so let's make the best of it hopefully

[mint swan]

Shifter 🤝

[blissful perch]

True, modifying settings will allow us to circumvent a lot of these issues

[blissful perch]

Always my man 🤝

[past wind]

After some years of breeding, I guess it’s fair to have some op tames

Again, I’m open to changes, but they have to consider every aspect of the game

[blissful perch]

Why? People play 10k hours of overwatch but their characters don’t get bonus stats

[mint swan]

What do you mean by "aspect"

Every single feature? Every single dino?

[mint swan]

My overwatch characters do

[past wind]

Regarding breeding, we should consider people that like to breed. I believe they’ve made changes to the system, but turning breeding into a replacement system for lost tames seems unattractive to me. 😂

I’m all in for changes that makes it more interesting

[blissful perch]

Stat mutations break the game. Any other aspect of breeding is fine or at minimum acceptable

[split dove]

imho stat mutations should be removed and replaced with a dino esc skill tree, and colour mutations should be changed to where they should only change the appearance of the creature but not the stats

[blissful perch]

I’m fine with time sinks into your existing tames instead of breeding. Anything that involves gameplay interests me

[mint swan]

Personally, i think breeding should be just expanding army or combining stats

[blissful perch]

I’m fine with expanding imprinting and “training” if you will, but I agree the purpose of all the dang eggs should really just be those two things

[past wind]

I agree with the above.

I would go further, make the World Events a source of superior tames

[blissful perch]

I see we align

[past wind]

Let’s say max wild lvl is 150, in world events you could find creatures with higher lvls

[blissful perch]

I’m not wildly against it, although you could be more subtle and have world events simply provide stuff with better stat distributions

[past wind]

That would do also

I said lvl because is the general idea of progression

Lvl = stats

[blissful perch]

I’m refining rather than disagreeing lol, dw

But I’m glad you’re seeing things like this: breeding in isolation is good to discuss, but it’s a valid area of discussion to ask “ok so now what do people do in the post game and how can they get their edge”. I think world events are one such avenue

My goal is to give folks repeatable stuff to do that gives you a payout that’s JUST big enough to be worthwhile but not so big it’s a gatekeeping or balance breaking boost

[past wind]

Sure, I’m curious to see what’s the new Creatures Management System is about

I bet breeding and mutations are included in this revamp of the system

[blissful perch]

I think the management system is gonna be the cryopod replacement rather than anything to do with mutations. Since I pray daily for no ark 2 stat mutations

[past wind]

Based on Atlas’ path, I’d say they will cover breeding

Talking about Atlas, I think it doesn’t have mutations, I’m not sure

[blissful perch]

Best atlas feature confirmed??? No mutations 😍

[past wind]

What do you think about breeding dependency on the biome?

Something like megachelon breeding

On Atlas, breeding of certain tames depends on temperature

[blissful perch]

Sounds like a great way to force folks to make outposts all over the place and clutter the map

[ember oracle]

Does atlas still get updated

[blissful perch]

I’d rather require the use of a certain crafted item so you can haul the stuff from a given biome back to base and stock it up for when you want to breed (so you don’t need tons of bases)

[past wind]

A lot actually, but I’ve been watching from the outside their developement

[ember oracle]

Nice ,is it worth trying out and buying . I never played it

[past wind]

Actually they will update its engine to Unreal Engine in 2023

It could be seen as a preview for Ark 2 😂

[past wind]

I see, I’m open to all of it 😂

Would be nice if it becomes more enjoyable

[blissful perch]

If ark 2 was small pop coop only, I’d LOVE to be required to make outposts and stuff…but the MMO style means space is always a premium

[past wind]

Isn’t that the whole point? Making it harder? 😂

I mean, you can dedicate your time to one kind of creature at a time

Then you can migrate to other biome and start a new breeding

[blissful perch]

It’s not “harder” if it’s PvE and the map is clogged up so bad you can’t build

And nobody is gonna pick up and move their whole base to another biome just to breed something 😂😂

If this were subnautica, or a smaller coop survival game tho, your arguments make total sense

[past wind]

I have a gut feeling the bases on Ark 2 won’t be as large as on Ark 1

[blissful perch]

With easier building and larger maps I’m not sure I agree lol. But based on what we know I can’t say anything for sure about average base size

The size depends on ease of building materials, ease of defense, space needs (for breeding, farming, storage, crafting, etc), which we know 0 about

[past wind]

I believe we won’t need as much space as today. If you have been playing ark since the beginning, you know bases now are way smaller than they used to be. Mostly because we have cryos.

I hope and believe storage is a priority. The fact they are talking about the Creature Management System makes me hopeful

[blissful perch]

100% true that cryos made bases far smaller (see my above statement)

However, if the other things I mention get expanded upon, bases may grow again

[south lance]

i want more bases

not enough spots that people build in

[orchid apex]

gameplay tomorrow

[south lance]

praying

i got 3 assignments and a test but by god ill find time to watch ark content live

unless its during my test then rip

[orchid apex]

idgaf i’ll watch it in school

lol

we have alot of quiet rooms that nobody goes into, its perfect

[static dirge]

I swear if they don't fix the pillar snapping bugs in Ark 2 then I'll file for a lawsuit

[wintry urchin]

That's the problem, that cryos fixed so much lag. But also completely fucked balance

[ember oracle]

Honestly don’t think we will get anything Tomrorow

Prob won’t till game awards

[rustic oxide]

I disagree

[wintry urchin]

Well we shall see

[full nova]

I am sceptical that it’s gonna be a whole different game I do hope I’m wrong and it is just a reskin with tweeks

[wintry urchin]

So u want it to be a reskin?

[full nova]

Yea I’m old af I don’t wanna learn it all again 😂

[lunar finch]

The Steam page makes it very clear just how different it is going to be. 😄

[full nova]

When they mentioned dodging in combat my fears kicked in

I think Elden ring meets Jurassic park 🧐

[wintry urchin]

God I hope they don't have combat like that

[royal nebula]

I hope ark 2 makes a good looking night sky

Like how earths is without light pollution

[past wind]

I know, but atlas went further with requirements and limitations for breeding. The limitations are more like megachelon and magma than the other creatures.

Hence why I hope they bring breeding pens and creature storage buildings to Ark 2. I hope hundreds of creatures released on the ground for breeding purposes will be a thing from the past.

[past wind]

If you watch the last trailer, you will see the sky seems really beautiful with a moon and another planet on sight.

[full nova]

Is it a gameplay trailer I’ve not seen it

[past wind]

No. Pre-rendered scenes. But I believe they used the map we will get.

[royal nebula]

That’s like daytime ish tho, wonder what night will be like

[full nova]

No more events on official after this year is that still a thing with no eta on ark 2

[past wind]

Dawn/dusk I think

[past wind]

Apparently yes. But the events items will all be available on the HLNA store

Also, for the unnofficials, it will be possible to activate the events

[full nova]

Well ain’t that fun enjoy raising ur new car mutes on 1x forever

[worldly garden]

They haven't confirmed anything about EVO events. They've only confirmed that the seasonal events won't be anymore.

[full nova]

i imagine alot of people are still gonna breed a line not every one is here to pvp😉

[placid wave]

Game gonna flop

[hollow anchor]

In how much hours will be showed the gameplay of ark2???

[past wind]

There’s no showcase of gameplay scheduled

[hollow anchor]

Fuc**k

[split dove]

isn't the showcase for 2023 previews supposed to start tomorrow?

[fallow niche]

They're streaming upcoming games now, and have been all morning, so no idea.

[vivid meadow]

Does anyone know if tomorrow there will be something about ark 2 at the pc gaming event?

[blissful perch]

Mutation stacking and cryos did a hell of number on balance, can’t deny that

[split dove]

Ark 2 is included with the survival game section, but nothing confirms if it will be a rerun of the existing trailers or if there will be something new about ark 2 in that stream tomorrow as we're just speculating

[vivid meadow]

hopefully there's something about game player

[fallow niche]

In the pins they've confirmed the next time we see anything Ark 2, it'll be gameplay, so hopefully.

[wintry urchin]

I hope they release some news before 2023

Surely they have to!

[sand nova]

Anyone hear if this will be mmo or single player stuck with Santiago as van diesel and does anyone know if he will be in the game(I hope not) lol

[wintry urchin]

I imagine it'll be like ark gen missions for "story mode"

[sand nova]

For single player or will the whole game be like gene mission just to clarify sry I’m dumb lol

[quiet python]

Pc gaming show is tmr

So we might see new ark2 gameplay tmr

[split dove]

don't get your hopes up, wildcard hasn't said that they're showing off anything new there. it might just be a rerun of the trailers and them describing what ark 2 will be like

[wintry urchin]

Yeah but they said next ark 2 related shit is gameplay

[quiet python]

Thats why i said "might"

[wintry urchin]

Check pins

[past wind]

It’s a sandbox and open-world game. You probably won’t be limited to choose Santiago. Custom characters will probably still be a thing. BUT everything we know so far is in the pins. The rest is just speculative.

[sand nova]

The pins?and thank for your info mate

[past wind]

Dollies words: next time WE share something will be gameplay

[wintry urchin]

I dont think Santiago will be playable

[stray elm]

No shit

[wintry urchin]

That was from official ark twitter tho

[stray elm]

It's been confirmed we're not Santiago.

[past wind]

Yes, but PC gaming showcase isn’t WCs showcase

They’re not showing anything there

[wintry urchin]

Yeah I know, I was responding to someone else

[stray elm]

Ah, scrolled up and didn't see any messages by you. So I thought you just randomly came in here and stated that.

[polar trellis]

gameplay trailer > "They’re not showing anything there" lol

[desert swallow]

Santiago in game mount confirmed

[thick moat]

dollie is the one who runs the official ark twitter

[rare pier]

Truly excited to see the new creature management and building systems

[proper frigate]

will we see more of the game tomorrow ^^

[thick moat]

it's not confirmed to be happeninggg

I hope we don't see people disappointed over something wildcard didnt announce

[proper frigate]

ture

i do see it in the pc gaming list on steam but who knows if it will be showed

[thick moat]

yeah it's a preview, most likely it won't happen

[proper frigate]

😭

[thick moat]

though TGA is 2 weeks away

not all hope is lost

[proper frigate]

whats tga xD

[thick moat]

the game awards

[proper frigate]

oh derp

[thick moat]

btw the pc gaming show thing is live

so im not sure what's happening here

[fallow niche]

I've said that a couple times. Idk either. It says it doesn't start until tomorrow, but they're showing games. Either way, we'll just wait for Ark 2. The timer is pinned for now.

[thick moat]

im seeing an article that says it starts tomorrow on their twitch channel

[rare pier]

Guess we'll wait and see

[thick moat]

they don't mention anything about ark 2 on the official pc gamer article yikes

[past wind]

I've been saying that in here. Wildcard has no part on that event. That's not what Dollie was talking about.

[thick moat]

yeah and if they don't tease it with some tweet or Paranormal activity it aint real XD

[stray elm]

I have hope they'll come.
But I have no expectations that they will.
I'm more expecting stuff at the game-awards

[blissful perch]

Why expect? Just…take it when it comes lmfao

[stray elm]

Well, it's not like I'll be disappointed if it comes to neither. Cause I've been disappointed about stuff my whole life.

[stray elm]

Mass Effect Andromenda, 76, Fallout 4, Halo 5, Resident Evil 3 Remake, etc

[tropic crag]

Hey, Fallout 4 is a good game

Just not a good Fallout game 😂

[stray elm]

That's why I'm disappointed.

Jesus can't help those games

Fallout-4, sure.
But all of the rest are either unmoddable, are no one has bothered modding a whole new ass story to them. (understandable)

You got rid of it?

[blissful perch]

It’s not a bad call given how massive it is

Oh that’s way worse

[stray elm]

Oof

[blissful perch]

Problem not identified

[stray elm]

Problem not identified

Seeking out who asked

[blissful perch]

Ah. Yes it is

In ark or in general?

[stray elm]

dino*

That's a mammal.

[prisma pike]

That's not even a dinosaur

[blissful perch]

I think the man means “dino” as ark shorthand for a tame don’t roast him 😂

[prisma pike]

Least you live up to the name

[stray elm]

My favorite 'dinosaur' is a raptor.
My favorite 'creature' so far are R-Tentacles, and soon to be replaced by the Aratai's.

[prisma pike]

Anyways it's spino

[blissful perch]

I really like the light pets

[prisma pike]

My featherlight when I forget it's on me and I'm charging my suit in the ele river

[stray elm]

You could say they light up your day

[blissful perch]

I won’t answer this unless you tell me you read the pins

[prisma pike]

I hope my spinos can wallrun and do kickflips

[stray elm]

Read the pins

[blissful perch]

I’m sorry…kick flips? When they could be doing 720 rail grinds? Disappointed ngl

[prisma pike]

Give em tekboots

[stray elm]

Did you read the steampage?

ARK-2 has a steampage

[quaint horizon]

Cd keys has a Price and release date... wonder if it's accurate.... 🥹

[stray elm]

No, it's not

CD-Keys is a unofficial/not affiliated website.

[quaint horizon]

Well with all the leaks and teases the last week I'm sure we'll see soon

[stray elm]

We'll see

[quaint horizon]

🤞

[lime forge]

What’s the date?

[tropic forge]

31 JAN 2023

[quaint horizon]

^

which if my memory is right the first place holder for original release was January. $52.79 is the price

[lime forge]

I highly doubt that’s happening

No way they get within 2 months of release without any kind of advertisement

[quaint horizon]

well thats why everyone thinks well see something tomorrow

but i agree

[lime forge]

A January release date leaked by cd keys has nothing to do with people thinking we will see gameplay tomorrow

[quaint horizon]

well no but it definitely adds to it

i think i know why we havent heard from wildcard. not only is communication their weakpoint but microsoft has alot of say for ark 2.

[blissful perch]

It adds 0

[quaint horizon]

imo it adds alot. if all of sudden theres a date and price i now know even if its wrong that theres info arks gonna share soon. people are way to good at hacking and finding the info they want. example the elden ring dlc leak that happened months ago. its too easy to do and then we have the info

[blissful perch]

You can’t hack a brain…and the release date is assigned by the WC team. You can’t hack game files and find that out

[quaint horizon]

you hack data centers which contain dates, emails, etc

[blissful perch]

Which are only as accurate as the minds of those who wrote the emails. Remember we were promised two unmet release dates for genesis 2 before we actually got it

It’s actually 🤡 technology to use a third party source for a WC release date

[quaint horizon]

microsoft will have more say this time versus ark 1 stuff

release dates by wildcard have always been delayed

the only one that was on time was scorched earth

[blissful perch]

Which should tell you Jan 31 is extremely unrealistic

[quaint horizon]

its not a wildcard date its actually very realistic

[blissful perch]

Almost assuring what you see is a placeholder date a website added because they have no idea

[quaint horizon]

theyve worked on the game 5 years now

the first place holder was jan 2022

then delayed to 2023 of no month

[blissful perch]

Yes? So they updated it when wc said “2023” to their 2023 placeholder date

Totally normal, but it says nothing about the real release date

[quaint horizon]

true. but now that theres data and stuff out i see alot more getting dropped. especially since the teases the last week. this is the most weve heard about ark 2in a while makes me excited but worried.

the 3rd person combat could be great

[blissful perch]

We heard…what in your mind? We got one concept art image several months after a brief pax interview talked a bit about ark 2

We have basically no locked down specifics of anything. Which is fine by me, but it indicates release ain’t soon

[quaint horizon]

theres a few concept images out there. the weapons , armor, anky, rex, character models. wildcard has always been weak on communication. whats your guess of release then?

[blissful perch]

Q3 2023. Keyword guess

[lunar finch]

My guess is June.

Just feels like a good month. Lol

[blissful perch]

I see June as the earliest is reasonable

[quaint horizon]

yea?

[blissful perch]

There’s an argument that everything showed at the Microsoft event comes out by June 2023 implies ark 2 drops then

[lunar finch]

Eh?

[ember oracle]

I think fall 2023

[blissful perch]

I’m not 100% sold but it’s a possibility

[ember oracle]

Like November

Usually would see gameplay by now if it was coming by july

[quaint horizon]

yeah june is huge for microsoft usually

[stray elm]

There's no confirmation 'how' much Microsoft is involved other then 'they are'

For all we know, they could've just paid Wildcard for the exclusivity and fucked off.

[lunar finch]

I'd imagine that's usually the case. Lol

[quaint horizon]

well in that case the argument of pc gameshow isnt big enough bc of microsoft is invalid then

[lunar finch]

ARK 2 is on the PC Gaming Show, and Dollie said the next time they show off or talk about it it will be gameplay... so fingers crossed, anyways. I am nervous but excited to see. 😄

[quaint horizon]

yeah thats what ive been counting on

[ember oracle]

Highly doubt it will be showed Tomrorow

Just saying

[lunar finch]

Why?

[stray elm]

They're on the website. But sadly, it's realistic that it could just be the showrunners talking about how 'they're' excited for the game, and not Wildcard making a appearance.

We'll see tomorrow. But it's a 50/50 chance if they'll actually show up tomorrow, or if it's just the showrunners boasting about the game

[lunar finch]

Yes, it could be tricky wordplay, but I feel good about it.

[blissful perch]

Are any of the other games in this event showing gameplay?

[lunar finch]

I have no idea what this show normally shoes honestly.

[quaint horizon]

yeah

[ember oracle]

The show never really shows big games lol

[quaint horizon]

originally it was the top 5 picked by pc gameshow it is now 6

[lunar finch]

I think the chance of a gameplay trailer is solid. There's other games on there I'm interested to see, as well.

[quaint horizon]

frozen flame, Hogwarts Legacy, sons of the forest, the day before, and ark 2 are my guesses

[ember oracle]

I really hope hog warts legacy ain’t a bust . It looks Soo good right now

[quaint horizon]

well this is the first time ever of them doing 2 events in a year so not sure what to expect on this one

[quaint horizon]

yeah i liked the gameplay trailer

[quaint horizon]

Kerbal Space Program 2 (featuring an exclusive interview with Creative Director Nate Simpson.
A brand new game from League of Geeks, the creators of Armello and the recently announced reboot of Solium Infernum
Shadows of Doubt
The Great War: Western Front
The Top 6 Most-Wanted Games of 2023, as selected by PC Gamer

[tropic crag]

False, Lost Island and Fjordur were released on time as well

[quaint horizon]

those arent wildcard maps

im talking specifically wildcard made stuff

[tropic crag]

So what? Still took development time and they did do things to the maps before pulling them to official

Still meets the criteria of "release dates set by Wildcard" 🤷‍♂️

[stray elm]

Those are Wildcard released though

Also, they did make half of Lost-Island

[tropic crag]

I mean, technically speaking, true

[quaint horizon]

technically i suppose

im talking island, scorched, gen 1 , gen 2 , abb ,

the rest were modders maps

which now work for wildcard

[stray elm]

Which Wildcard worked on said maps

[quaint horizon]

back then they didnt

valguero dev got hired after map was released

same for center and rag

[stray elm]

Bullshit.
They removed literally everything that made Crystal-Isle good

[quaint horizon]

yeah she wasnt happy about that LUL

[tropic crag]

Still, took Wildcard company time to make those changes was my point, and they did set the release dates

[blissful perch]

I do wonder if those dates are easier to hit because they’re working with a third party

[quaint horizon]

yup for sure

its already basically done. all wildcard had to do was make a few minor changes

[blissful perch]

Now that I think about it, the cycle is shorter because WC is busy making a couple of creatures and a map rather than new mechanics etc like they do for their major DLC 😂 dunno how I forgot

[quaint horizon]

and thats why those specific maps were on time. anything that was solely wildcard dlc was delayed

also thats why you shouldnt do dates until you know for sure.

[blissful perch]

Which they’re doing with ark 2. Anime redemption arc

[quaint horizon]

they did years but yea.

[heady coyote]

what is ark 2

[heady coyote]

Id ark 2 on mobile

[latent hornet]

So we dont know for sure, but the pc games show begins at 19;00 right?

If we gonna see ark 2 init

[lunar finch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ6T61_hZeg&ab_channel=PCGamer

Yeah, we don't know for sure.

But there's a link to the scheduled stream.

[onyx trellis]

Ark 3 is better

[marble arch]

Release date?

[stray elm]

[split dove]

🤔

[iron sequoia]

I doubt we will get anything, I’d like to be wrong, but I’m on the no side.

[split dove]

Only way to really know is to watch it, but I'm also more on the no side

[onyx trellis]

April 36teenth, 20ll103

[worldly garden]

Me too, and I also hope i'm wrong. 😆

[fresh kayak]

Too early

[ripe cedar]

Lol 2/3 of the chat says ark 2

[blissful perch]

when is the ark 2 bit? Since afaik we will see something about it, even if it isn't new

[ember oracle]

Peoples hopium is too high 😂

They ain’t gonna reveal ark 2 at pc game show

[polar trellis]

maybe they do, ark 2 have pc game show border on steam page

[split dove]

idk, but that stream should start in just under 3 hours iirc

[ripe cedar]

4

[blissful perch]

supposedly there is talk of it. The question is if this is where we see gameplay. I agree the chances of seeing gameplay are low

[ember oracle]

Yea agree . I meant to say ark 2 gameplay * there could be ark 2

I think game awards or the next Microsoft event in spring

[storm yew]

3 hours and 42 minutes

[wanton pike]

I think we will get a new announcement….. one where they will announce that it’ll get delayed again 🤣

[flint vector]

Anyone wanna join my ark 2 unofficial server? We have slightly boosted rates and it’s pretty fun

[ripe cedar]

Uh where do i download ark 2?

[flint vector]

Steam

[flint vector]

Nice pfp btw I love Peter capaldi

[wise shadow]

i don’t have faith in ark 2 at all

[ripe cedar]

I have faith that the sequel to a game i like will be shown

[sonic elbow]

Free ARK 2 Punjabi modded no virus 2023 infinite money glitch

[inland oak]

yea so its gonna start in after 3hours and 30minutes right the PC gaming show

[sonic elbow]

2 hrs 30 I think, idk.

ARK 2 isn't confirmed to be shown today, though.

It's probable, but we haven't gotten anything from the devs.

[inland oak]

yea right hmm

lets wait and see I guess

[split dove]

probably gonna be a rerun of a trailer with them describing it. wildcard also didn't say they were if they would show up at the xbox showcase from june iirc but we got some news than, there's always a possibility

[sonic elbow]

That's almost exactly what I'm expecting.

[inland oak]

yea maybe

man its been 2 years

xD

[naive meteor]

Is there going to be a ark 2 gameplay trailer today?

[split dove]

nothing confirms it will be anything new, probably a rerun of a existing trailer with them describing it

[patent pond]

Nah,they said in Twitter the Next time we see something of ark 2 It Will be Gameplay

[split dove]

''We see your interest buuut...

the next time ***we ***talk about or share anything related to #ark-survival-ascended2, it will be gameplay (yay!)''

some developers didn't even know that their game was featured or knew about the pc game show. wich ark 2 could easily also be, and with that Wildcard hasn't said that they will attend the event. if there is something new that's cool, but you must be ready for the event in wich it's just the hosts of the show describing ark 2 with the existing trailers.

[thick moat]

Hmm i forgot about xbox bethesda not being announced by wc, that adds quite the posibility to show up

[split dove]

yh, but there is always the chance they won't show new stuff and it's just a description from the steam page with the trailer in the background

[onyx hemlock]

true, it's probably going to be the awards show

[split dove]

they did announce both ark 2 and the animated series there in 2020

[onyx hemlock]

yea, hopefully we see it there

[polar trellis]

🙏

[wintry urchin]

Whens the awards show

[split dove]

8th off december iirc

[wintry urchin]

So not too far off

[lavish rain]

Like we haven't gotten that 69 times already, we already know what it will entail, just show us some gameplay!

[past wind]

It’s not Wildcard running the 70 time the clips. It’s PC GAMER doing that. They are aiming people that doesn’t know the games they are showcasing.

[lavish rain]

Like 70 other people havent

[past wind]

So? WC should forbid them?

[lavish rain]

Yes

[unborn galleon]

Where Ark 2 gameplay At

Here is how it will go today. Very disappointing for PC gamer not showing gameplay. Complain complain complain (here is some leftover for you guys) a picture of an unrideable anky 😆😆

[polar trellis]

at pc gaming show in survival category we have 10 games including ark 2 , sons of the forest etc

[calm scaffold]

its pretty obvious that someone somewhere at wildcard knows that WE at the very least THINK that there will be gameplay due to the pc gamer show banner on their steam page

so i dont care if theres no gameplay, its still unprofessional to not come out and say something about there BEING no gameplay

instead of just stringing along their community just for us to see nothing

and also BECAUSE they havent come out and said there will be no gameplay, it makes more people think there will be gameplay and gets them hyped up

[past wind]

The reason why it makes no sense to believe there will be anything new in there. WC isn’t even on the list of the studios sponsoring the event.

[past wind]

They could come out and deny that, sure. But to be fair, I don’t think they should. We should treat rumors as just that.

[snow fiber]

I think we will get just a little clip of gameplay and a new cinematic properly

[small pollen]

I'm trying to not get excited about the PC Game Show 😦

[calm scaffold]

True, but arks community is pretty "special" compared to others so, even if it IS just a rumor, people are still gonna riot and get mad when theres no gameplay

they dont care if its a rumor, all their brain will register is "no ark gameplay = angry"

[broken dune]

Is there an actual gameplay or just a trailer in the PC Game Show

[small pollen]

It hasn't started yet..

[broken dune]

🥵.

[split dove]

-__-

[snow fiber]

There will be also gameplay for other AAA games like Starfield , Jedi fallen order, Suicide Squad and Cyberpunk 2077 dlc or patch trailer

[small pollen]

Oooo it will be nice to see something for Starfield and Cyberpunk 🙂

[broken dune]

yooo cyberpunk too I'm actually excited more cuz the game was amazing

[fallow niche]

Let's move non ark 2 stuff to #general though please, keep this one on topic

[quiet python]

The only thing that im confused is what they gonna show on the pc gamer show if its not gameplay? They just gonna replay the trailers?

[fallow niche]

We do not know. We also don't know if they will be showing anything, we've been assuming/hoping they will.

[quiet python]

Ye but why would they have a poster about ark2 being on pc gamer show then.

[fallow niche]

....that's literally why we've been assuming/hoping.

[lunar finch]

FINGIES CROSSED!

[fallow niche]

[quiet python]

I mean, i wouldnt complain, i would be more than happy

[fallow niche]

Keep it on topic

[orchid apex]

why the stream keep freezing bruh

[fallow niche]

And sfw

[marble thunder]

It's crazy to see that most people on PCGamer stream chat, are there for ARK 2. 😆
ARK 2 is one of the most awaited game it seems like.

[wintry urchin]

I hope Santiago is a a reskinned gigantopithecus and I can ride Vin Diesel around and have him smash shit

[iron sequoia]

I be on the doubt train because wc haven’t said anything

[fallow niche]

Same as breedable humans, it is not sfw, so please don't.

[south lance]

whens pc game review gonna be today

[calm scaffold]

Rn

[south lance]

is it going on rn

[orchid apex]

rn

[south lance]

have they gotten to ark2 yet

[orchid apex]

no

[calm scaffold]

Nah

[south lance]

kk

[fallow niche]

It's already started. Make sure to keep it actually on topic of ark 2, and move the other game stuff to #general.

[orchid apex]

but i would recommend to tune in so u dont miss the ark 2 part bro

[south glacier]

Where can I tune in

[fallow niche]

If you've not noticed, it has been removed many times. Thanks.

[orchid apex]

steam

i can send in dms

[fallow niche]

https://youtu.be/aJ6T61_hZeg

[orchid apex]

or that

[mint swan]

darn

[fallow niche]

Make sure to keep this channel actually on topic of ark 2, and move the other game stuff to #general.

[south lance]

pc gamer livestream chat is half ark2 lmao

[small pollen]

Really? Lol

People really want to see it o.o

[calm scaffold]

Prepare for the aftermath if ark 2 isn't shown

[small pollen]

I think it's probably ark trailer with them talking over it like they just did with some other games

[wanton pike]

I reckon we will get ark 2 late first half of 2023 lol

[orchid apex]

I reckon june

[small pollen]

There really are a lot of Ark 2 comments xD

[orchid apex]

And after this, I also reckon they will do the same with gen 2 where when we get closer to the release, they give us concept art once or twice every week

[small pollen]

Concept art isn't in game art though is it?

[orchid apex]

or ingame art, sorry

they did ingame art aswell

[small pollen]

Yeah that would be cool

[marble thunder]

Do we know how long is the pc game show?

[small pollen]

I think they said around 75 mins

[fallow niche]

Make sure to keep this channel actually on topic of ark 2, and move the other game stuff to #general.

[small pollen]

We are waiting for ark 2 footage

[marble thunder]

Is talking about PCGame Show, off topic? 😆

[mint swan]

everybody be talking about combat when I'm worried about the building aspect of ark 2

[fallow niche]

The pc game show is not ark 2 unless they have ark 2 content shown.

[marble thunder]

Fair. 👍

[mint swan]

how bad do you think building in the new game is gonna be?

3rd person only btw

annoying to snap stuff

[fallow niche]

The building mechanics aren't going to be the same as ark 1, I don't think.

[iron sequoia]

Of which they probably won’t have anything on ark2

[mint swan]

if it's a pain to build anything on ark 2 then why should I spend my money

[mint swan]

no building?

saving my money

[fallow niche]

You can get refunds.

[nimble trail]

kinda how I feel about most of the features mentioned for ark2

[fallow niche]

That's not even what Classi said.....

[iron sequoia]

I’m talking ab the pc showcase thing

[median dagger]

i want some ark 2 info😢

[fallow niche]

We all do.

[mint swan]

if you can't build anything then I'm gonna just play the original game and fallout 4

[next pelican]

Theyve confirmed building

[mint swan]

but how good?

[next pelican]

In some capacity at leaast

[mint swan]

3rd person building isn't exactly fun

[next pelican]

Better than ark 1 as far as I can tell

[mint swan]

imagine if you can make your own cave

[nimble trail]

same because the listed features have been very unappealing so far

[mint swan]

instead of living in a pre existing one

[nimble trail]

and I want hope that it won't suck

[mint swan]

agreed, it's literally horizon forbidden west

[past wind]

Are you 🥜? Without having terraforming we have mesh holes. Adding that feature would be crazily risky.

[mint swan]

same engine same kind of combat

[iron sequoia]

Hell no lol

[nimble trail]

horizon forbidden west is good, but none of it's mechanics suit a survival game with pvp elements, especially one like ark where you need to make quick reactions

[mint swan]

people be making holes to the bottom of the map at spawn

[next pelican]

You can make your own cave by blowing up someones base and living in the remains

Needless to say im not very popular on pvp

[storm yew]

How fucking dare steam not put ark 2 first in the stream

[fallow niche]

So far no ark2, just people yelling in the chat "where ark2" 😂

[split dove]

they don't seem to ever learn 😂

[next pelican]

Sounds like chat

[mint swan]

ark 2 when it releases is gonna be a dissapointment

I see it now

[iron sequoia]

:/
Again there probably won’t be anything this is just like the unreal stream where everyone hyped it up for nothing

[fallow niche]

Your opinion, chill

[fallow niche]

It'll be really annoying, but I'm expecting it 😂

[next pelican]

Ark 2 when it releases is gonna be a game

[mint swan]

a game

that's all it will ever be to me

[storm yew]

You take that back

Its more than a game

[next pelican]

Bro litterally has "ark is my life" in his about me

[mint swan]

normal ark

[fallow niche]

[prisma pike]

Oh hell no they ain't revealing shit in that time

[mint swan]

not ark 2

[next pelican]

Ark 2 is abnormal ark?

[mint swan]

ark 2 is cursed af ark

[next pelican]

I thought it was unreleased ark

[mint swan]

cursed unreleased ark

once they shut servers down for ark 1 I'm just gonna find a new game

[next pelican]

Honestly I think if they just made the 3rd person optional alot less people would be so weirded out by it

[mint swan]

agreed, like ark 1

[past wind]

You are this kind of people that think older things are always better. Like my grandpa.

[mint swan]

I prefer first person bc I can look at my builds without seeing the back of my character

[next pelican]

But I will remain cautiously optimistic about the game

Its all I can do atm, we will see in a bit

[past wind]

I think there’s a good reason for that: the new mechanics don’t work nicely with first person view

[next pelican]

Well thats why it should be an option

If the mechanics dont work, you just flip over to third person, its the same in ark 1

Building in third person is a nightmare, flip to 1st and youre fine

[mint swan]

exactly

[next pelican]

Options never hurt anyone, yknow?

[past wind]

It kida is. They’ve said it will be possible to add it through a mod

[mint swan]

imagine having to use a mod

[past wind]

But for officials, their vision will prevail

[mint swan]

and not being able to play on official servers bc of that mod

[past wind]

They have a plan for officials, and first person view probably spoils it

[next pelican]

But, theres the point

[past wind]

I bet they’ve tried

[next pelican]

If they can do it through a mod.. And its probably quite easy.. Why not just do it

Sure it might suck, but itll shut the complainers up

[mint swan]

it will shut me up

[past wind]

Probably because it doesn’t work well

[next pelican]

So what?

[mint swan]

it doesn't have to

[quiet python]

Have they showed anything yet?

[split dove]

nah ark players will still complain about anything and you know it

[next pelican]

Most of the stuff in ark 1 doesnt work great and we still love it

[prisma pike]

Skill issue?

[next pelican]

Oh i know im just projecting my own hopes for the game onto this

[prisma pike]

I've seen it work well, it's just stabilizing the camera 😂

[mint swan]

also first person would be realistic

[past wind]

And I hope Ark 2 works better than Ark 1 😂

[next pelican]

It should do

[mint swan]

it would be as if you're actually fighting the dino

[next pelican]

Ive poked around ue5 a bit, its wayyyy better than its alternative

[mint swan]

ue4 sux

[past wind]

Hence why they might take out features that won’t work well

[leaden island]

No ark 2 rip

@PCGamer: Hey folks just an FYI - ARK 2 is only featured in a montage in this show. There isn't any new footage or announcement forthcoming today for ARK 2.

[next pelican]

And you gotta keep in mind, the devs have had all the experience from making ark one under their belts now. If theyve learnt anything at all-

[next pelican]

God f-

Mmm...

[past wind]

Great, now people can rest

[south lance]

what is going on

[mint swan]

greatest thing I've heard all year

[prisma pike]

You're boutta see mouth frothing

[mint swan]

ark 2 is no more

[south lance]

man

[next pelican]

Get your gas masks on here comes the toxcicty

[wanton pike]

I know. Hence why I said it’ll probably be late in the first half of 2023

[quiet python]

.

[leaden island]

"the next time we talk about or share anything related to #ark-survival-ascended2, it will be gameplay (yay!)" so they lie

[next pelican]

To be fair they arent the ones sharing it

[snow fiber]

Why even put it into the show. As useless as the Jedi fallen order montage

[mint swan]

lmao, I hope to god that ark 2 gets cancelled

[past wind]

No, they didn’t

[prisma pike]

So that people tune in to watch it

[wanton pike]

Will it be one of the three wishes?

[mint swan]

yes

[prisma pike]

Because ad revenue op

[wanton pike]

Cold bro 😂

[mint swan]

make a ue5 remaster of ark 1 instead

and then add new maps and stuff

[wanton pike]

Yh idk

[snow fiber]

Still a L move from Pc Gaming

[median dagger]

you crazy man

[prisma pike]

Nah, need a new experience. I've played this game too long.

[next pelican]

Honestly if they just rebuilt the game from the ground up without its inherent issues, I think it could work

[mint swan]

more maps aka the ark 2 map

[south lance]

nah thatd ve even more work tbh

[fallow niche]

Would probably cost them more money than a new game

[prisma pike]

Oh wooow a new map that I won't care about cause it'll have trash caves

[split dove]

shh, they don't understand anything about arks code and how long it would take

[next pelican]

Oh im just speaking theroetically, I dont exxpect them to actually do it

[wanton pike]

Hey I see ark stuff on the gaming show

[next pelican]

Like, if there was a wildcard genie in front of me, id ask them to do that

[mint swan]

same

[wanton pike]

No new stuff though

[vague bolt]

Only first trailer and second trailer, oof 😦

[next pelican]

(Wtf is a wildcard genie?)

[polar trellis]

survival category will be last or ?

[mint swan]

the director of wildcard

[next pelican]

They aint a genie

[median dagger]

wow

[next pelican]

Theyre just old

[snow fiber]

Not wildcards fault honestly. More the fault of Pc Gamers

[median dagger]

have you seen ark 2 on pc gaming show? quite a suprise...

[fallow niche]

That's already stuff we've seen, check pins.

[wanton pike]

Few scenes from already released trailers unfortunately

[lavish rain]

So nothing new

[vague bolt]

I just hope that we still see some gameplay, 5 news outlets and 3 arktubers already promised me it 🤣

[snow fiber]

HAHA

[wanton pike]

Nope, but it might indicate that we will get something later on regarding ark 2

[fallow niche]

Wildcard did say "the next time they share anything, it would be gameplay". Pc game show was never confirmed to show new content.

[snow fiber]

Nah fam forget it

[digital sonnet]

wow so nothing about ark2 at all?

[next pelican]

We can see one off the devs play the game, with their facecam, and nothing else on screen.

[mint swan]

I'm done with hoping for ark 2 gameplay, now I just hope it's gonna suck so they continue ark 1 support

[orchid apex]

Wait so, that's it? someone confirm

[next pelican]

That should be all

[wanton pike]

We did see gameplay on the gaming show though

[cold locust]

A quick snippet of the trailer during a montage 👎

[terse pivot]

😭

[wanton pike]

Just not Ark 2(yet) lol

[orchid apex]

Is that fucking it?

[next pelican]

You get used to it after so many years of playing the game

[digital sonnet]

could have atleast shown some more off the new dino looks

[wanton pike]

Yep unfortunately

[mint swan]

ark 1 ark 2🤡

[thick moat]

Didnt they say it was a 2022 preview, maybe they say something now

[small pollen]

Looks like it 😦

[mint swan]

salty?

[quiet python]

WC should be hyping trailers or gameplay tbf they just gonna get even more backlash

[next pelican]

Honestly the whole "the game sucks argument" is so bad lol, like, we havent even seen the thing, as far as we know there isnt a game to suck yet

[quiet python]

Same for pc gamer

[candid mesa]

So no more Ark 2 gameplay footage? 💀

[next pelican]

My theory is they havent even made a game

Its just an empty ue5 file

[orchid apex]

No way

[small pollen]

No more? I don't think there's been any lol

[wanton pike]

Nah lol they definitely are developing for ages already mate

[orchid apex]

This better be some sick joke, otherwise i'm pissed

I'm going to wait until the end

[rare heart]

Fat L wildcard

[oak crystal]

They barely showed a concept ark. Ya'll thought they had gameplay ready??

[thick moat]

I dont get why yall angry... Wildcard never said anything about it showing

[rare heart]

No

[mint swan]

watch them delay it until 2025

[quiet python]

Ark 2 will be like OW2 they just gonna change the HUD 💀

[next pelican]

On the matter, ark 2 is a stupid name, theres no arks in it

[orchid apex]

Yes? It's been YEARS Since they announced the game bro?

[mint swan]

fr, it's just a planet

[candid mesa]

Well, they said in the beginning, that there will be a world premiere? Then what game lol? 🤔

[wanton pike]

They are showing Ark 2 now guys!!! Tune in!

[rare heart]

No dinosaur games are lazy as hell

No way its ready

[next pelican]

Ark 1 had at least 1 ark in it, ark 2 better have at least 2 arks or imma be pissed

[snow fiber]

HAHA XD

[wanton pike]

Apparently we are getting giant killer pinguïns and shit throwing monkeys again

[oak crystal]

They are still hiring people.....so..🤷‍♂️

[small pollen]

I'm confused about the post they made about the next time we see it we'd see gameplay. Surely they knew the game show was coming up. Must have posted it by mistake 🤔

[prisma pike]

And the way almost every character works but aight

[next pelican]

Id argue the wording was misleading

[orchid apex]

As I said, this better be a joke. Hahaha i'm laughing..

[placid helm]

Right wildcard don't disappoint!!!

[iron sequoia]

Imagine that no news

[next pelican]

Imma go get a job at wc

[snow fiber]

Maybe they meant the next time they announce any news about Ark 2 it will be gameplay

[ripe marsh]

I don't see the confusion. They said next time but they did not specify when is the next time

[next pelican]

And leak everything

[mint swan]

there are no arks in ark 2 just an alien planet of disappointment

[unique orchid]

All games actually shown outside of the montages are complete ape shit, all good games are just trailers in the montages, what is this shit

[small pollen]

Well... let's try not to get excited about the PC Game Awards but get excited anyway!

[nimble trail]

I expected to see ark at the game show held in december, I don't expect to see it now but I can hope

[wanton pike]

I am still curious to what games they’re showing though, so if we don’t get any news about ark 2 than idc to much

[nimble trail]

I hope ark2 explores the origin of element though, that'll be fun

[small pollen]

Well the word next I suppose

[orchid apex]

Nah, if its not shown here then I'm not getting excited again

[mint swan]

you can't even be a beach bob in ark 2 because there are no beaches

[unique orchid]

The game awards...? for a game thats not released?

[next pelican]

Alien beach bob

[nimble trail]

no, it was something else I think

[small pollen]

Don't let it ruin your excitement lol they will show it when ready. We don't know what kind of deal they have with MS.

[nimble trail]

idk I don't keep up with game shows

[wanton pike]

You don’t know what’s in ark 2 though

[polar trellis]

ark 2 was announced on game awards lol

[wanton pike]

Yeah it’s been a bloody year

[past wind]

They didn’t know. Raasclarck said he talked with some devs and they didn’t know that show would be showcasing Ark 2.

[small pollen]

That sucks 😦

[mint swan]

no beaches for sure

[wanton pike]

How you know

[polar trellis]

no beach no more beach bob

[nimble trail]

there better be beaches

[past wind]

It doesn’t actually. People just need to set their expectations right 😂

[mint swan]

look at the trailer

[polar trellis]

where the beaches at

[mint swan]

do you see a beach?

[quiet python]

Oh thats a confirmation that there will be no ark 2 on this mid show

[small pollen]

Ok

[wanton pike]

The trailers do not show everything though

[vague bolt]

I see no beaches, but I see lakes, and Brachios 🤣

[wanton pike]

And you see bloody planets in the background which we might be able to explore too

[mint swan]

ah, but the trailer in ark 1 showed one anyways

[mint swan]

not gonna be possible

[wanton pike]

You don’t know biased hampster

[blissful perch]

Without reading anything, did no gameplay come out?

[mint swan]

why would you be able to explore a full scale planet in an engine that isn't advanced enough for it

[blissful perch]

@past wind am i right?

[past wind]

The people from PC GAMER also confirmed on the chat they won’t show anything new

[vague bolt]

By rebuilding the Genesis ?

[iron sequoia]

Of course not lol

[unique orchid]

They showed us the trailer in a 5-6 seconds montage..

[blissful perch]

I should have placed monetary bets, I’d be ROLLIN in cash

[iron sequoia]

As said why would there be anything because they didn’t say they would be there

[wanton pike]

Maybe we can visit the planets but we might not be able to explore the entire planet

[mint swan]

the lag tho

[iron sequoia]

Lmfao would be stacked

[mint swan]

the amount of pc power you will need

[wanton pike]

Ark is known for lags though 😂

[past wind]

Of course, as we’ve been saying all week long it wasn’t likely

[mint swan]

oh, but how big are the maps?

[blissful perch]

People seem to love pointlessly hyping themselves for unconfirmed events 😂

[wanton pike]

We don’t know yet

[next pelican]

God if ark 2 has terraforming you know people will litterally just bury eachothers bases

[mint swan]

not really that big on ark 1

[vague bolt]

"Teleporting Now!" 🤣 the lag, plz no

[next pelican]

No pvp you just get buried alive

[mint swan]

you can fly across one in 10-15 minutes

[blissful perch]

Yea terraforming = bad idea for an ark game

[wanton pike]

Tbf in the beginning everyone thought the island was massive 🤣🤣🤣

[mint swan]

island takes 5 minutes to fly across

[blissful perch]

It’s a reminder that size is relative to your speed

[iron sequoia]

Ik lol

[mint swan]

this new ark 2 map might take a good hour

[vague bolt]

No Hover Skiff to explore the map sadly

[mint swan]

pt

[blissful perch]

Maps are “larger” when transit is slower

[mint swan]

argy

[next pelican]

Ill take a small, detailed map, over a huge empty map any day

[blissful perch]

People keep forgetting the value of slowing transit down so maps can be easier to make and of higher detail (and physically smaller) while feeling large

[nimble trail]

I hope pterosaurs at least require a takeoff in ark 2, but I am not going to expect such a feature

[next pelican]

Abberation is amazing, despite being relatively small

[wanton pike]

I think the map will be pretty stretched out if you take a look at all those floating islands in the trailer

[mint swan]

aberration is my favorite map

[vague bolt]

I'm considering to go zoomies on a raptor, exploring Arat in it's prime 🙂

[blissful perch]

Yep, and it’s all because of travel times. No fliers and lots of switchbacks makes the map feel large despite being physically small

[lavish rain]

🤡

[mint swan]

blue zone in ue5 would look incredible

[next pelican]

You got it

[lavish rain]

No ark 2

[wanton nimbus]

they didnt show ark 2

[next pelican]

Honestly blue zone with some better shaders added would do alot for it

[past wind]

Although it’s too punitive to new players 😂

[unique orchid]

🤡 wildcard🤡

[past wind]

We need a balance

[wanton pike]

They showed ark 2, just not anything new though lol

[blissful perch]

Spend more time in this chat, it seems we are kindred spirits 😂

[wanton nimbus]

lol

[next pelican]

Give it the minecraft rtx treatment

[polar trellis]

dodo in UE5 🥵

[unique orchid]

send wildcard to the ranch 🤡 👨🏽‍🌾

[mint swan]

fr, it already looks good but imagine if it had better lighting and ray tracing

common wildcard L

[blissful perch]

I’m talking about map size and traveling around the map, dw im not saying the entire ark 2 map needs to be blue zone levels of hostile 😂

[next pelican]

Anyway ima peace out while things get toxic

[nimble trail]

sauropods in UE5 🥵

[next pelican]

Cyas

[wanton pike]

Yeah show is over lol

No ark 2 news 😂

[nimble trail]

I hope diplo makes it through

[vague bolt]

Alas, tis what it is, back to Genesis and Fjordur it is for now, maybe some reveals next major announcement 🙂

[blissful perch]

Not ark 1 diplo. Ark 1 diplo did the animal dirty

[nimble trail]

ark 1 diplo is beautiful

[blissful perch]

Not from a stats and abilities perspective

[placid helm]

Wow disappointment, I guess we just stay on ARK for hopes they fix bugs. Then get met with more disappointment when they don't fix an already solid game. Smh

[nimble trail]

true I want violent diplodocus

[orchid apex]

This is really disappointing, damn wildcard, you cant get anything right

[past wind]

Hence why it’s time to move on 👍

[plain agate]

^

[past wind]

Ark 1 can’t be fixed

[small pollen]

I wonder if they will vamp up the dino sizes a bit. I watched Raasclark play ark dino discovery and some of the dino descriptions said they were way bigger than they appear to be in ark 1

[wanton pike]

Lol after the livestream I get switched to a livestream with the title; “Ark 2 gameplay reveal live” 😂

[placid helm]

I don't wanna great game 😢 but the devs are so unreliable

[turbid delta]

No Ark 2 on the stream

[sonic elbow]

Clownish behavior..

[mint swan]

ark 2 is gonna be a disappoint guys let's all chill out

[calm scaffold]

Riot time!

[small pollen]

You don't know that 😦

[orchid apex]

wildcard if you're scrolling through the chat right now, i'm disappointed. this was a FAT L.

[storm yew]

God is dead and the steam 2023 games showcase killed them

[plain agate]

^

[turbid delta]

Every game on that stream looked like garbage tbh.

[placid helm]

L

[thick moat]

How are you disappointed over something they did not confirm lulw

[fluid mirage]

Man i really got dissapontied

[thick moat]

Imagine

[polar trellis]

yea 90% of the games was in space theme

[split dove]

common ark peanut brain players will find a way

[fluid mirage]

[orchid apex]

Bro, good for you that you're not disappointed. but some of us are..They literally put PC gaming show on the ARK 2 steam page bro?

[turbid delta]

A lot of space flight sim looking games

[blissful perch]

I think that’s the event in a couple weeks

[mint swan]

oh but I do

[fluid mirage]

Bro they literally showed Unreal engine coding but a gameplay 💀

[fallow niche]

Make sure to keep this channel actually on topic of ark 2, and move the other game stuff to #general.

[thick moat]

And? As ced said, anything that wildcard doesnt confirm aint true

[storm yew]

I am going to shit my ass we have to wait till December

[fluid mirage]

Remember that?

[mint swan]

it's gonna suck more than anything that has sucked before