ark-2

[ripe cedar]

Might just be for all big 2023 releases

Not what is actually on the show

[blissful perch]

Stop being a 🤡: wait for the announcement and just enjoy what’s posted there like a smart person

[past wind]

They will talk about Ark, but it’s not said to have any new stuff about the games they are showcasing

[ripe cedar]

No

[unborn galleon]

It had" so they took it off?

[split dove]

no

[past wind]

No, still there

[unborn galleon]

Oh alright

[past wind]

But it’s not saying they will share anything new about any of the games they will talk about

[unborn galleon]

Ty

Who's hosted by?

[pulsar stratus]

Can a 1660 might be able to run all recent games ?

[ripe cedar]

What

[unborn galleon]

Who is hosting the 17th event

[past wind]

Yes

[ripe cedar]

Intel and pc gamer i think

Well sponsered by intel

[past wind]

But, of course, not on max settings at 4k 😂

[pulsar stratus]

Thanks

[barren spindle]

So they are going to make the anky an actual anky?

Like a walking tank that just breakes kneecaps

[tribal chasm]

Looks like an OHS violation to try mine with that new anky

[past wind]

Hopefully

[elfin pumice]

anky wasnt spikey

but it looks cool

[lime forge]

Tf is OHS

[past wind]

I think he’s talking about combat skills

[blissful perch]

OSHA?

[lime forge]

Omaha Highschool

[tribal chasm]

yeah hmm in Australia it's slightly diff, that's the one

[ripe cedar]

🍄

[barren spindle]

I just wish the tail and back spikes where a bit smaller

[elfin pumice]

same

as i said before, if they wanted to make a skinny spikey anky they could've just taken a different species

ankys were chunky and had short spikes

like the ones in ark 1

[ripe cedar]

I tthink they mixed a few dinos that all looked similar like anky

[elfin pumice]

the tail looks like it would work like the one of a stego instead of the one of an actual anky

it also looks quite unrideable

[ripe cedar]

Well thats on us to make the saddle

Not the dino

[elfin pumice]

absolutely

it still looks unrideable

unless you make a 2 meter tall saddle

[tribal chasm]

may stand on the back of it like ... some other dinos in Ark 1, can't remember what ones

there's some pointy ones in Ark 1 you stand on rather than sit

[jaunty turret]

if that goddarn ankylo doesnt solo a trex im gonna bite a elephant and see what happens

[elfin pumice]

theres no ankylosauridae with those spikes

not even close

[jaunty turret]

tarchia had small spikes

[tropic crag]

Yeah, the Gastonia looks kinda similar

I'd believe it if you told me it was multiple dinos put into one, like most creatures in Ark already are confirmed to be

[jaunty turret]

tbf its safe to assume they just made anky spiky to look cool

[tropic crag]

The araneo being a good example

[tropic crag]

That too

[ripe marsh]

Yeah it is, Artist confirmed it. It's a mix of Edmontonia and Sauropelta

[tropic crag]

Edmontonia is another example of similar enough to Anky welp 😅

[ripe marsh]

Honestly, apart from the massive protruding spikes, it's def a glow up over Ark1 Anky

[tropic crag]

Wait a tic, Edmontonia, Edmundium? ROCKWELL CONFIRMED GUYZ

/j

[ripe marsh]

No way...

[blissful perch]

Abilities determine TLC over appearances for me

[ripe marsh]

Fair

[split dove]

he always comes back, he can't keep getting away with

[small pollen]

Anyone see Raasclarks latest video about the PC game show? I didn't know it was next week!!! 😮

[elfin pumice]

What is that

[split dove]

i didn't know about the show to begin with

[small pollen]

Haha me neither

[elfin pumice]

What is it about

[split dove]

upcomming games of next year

[small pollen]

I'm guessing it is a game show.. about PC games

[elfin pumice]

No way

[split dove]

i thought it was a show about rock games

[elfin pumice]

So they may announce something next week or on dec 8

[south lance]

ark2 news 😭 😭 😭

[elfin pumice]

Dec 8 is game awards

[south lance]

its coming sometime

[split dove]

and next news will likely be gameplay from what the tweet implied

[south lance]

i was wrong

im so happy 😭 😭

[split dove]

🫡

we did it soldier, we found ark 2 news

[south lance]

it exists 🙏

[split dove]

now we just need to colonise Arat for oil

[lime forge]

You been spending to much time with the Americans

[elfin pumice]

I want to be able to enslave the arati

[flint vector]

Nestle on its way to suck up all the water on Arat: 🚶

[split dove]

no shit when i'm all alone on the server pretending you guys are on

[split dove]

nestle already drained the moon centuries ago

[flint vector]

😔

That is unfortunate

[split dove]

no moonwater sad

[south lance]

gotta get them aratai in the emerald mines

[split dove]

i need my arat jewelry

[blissful perch]

I’ll be on this weekend. Not sure what to do beyond level up and help grind mats tho

[split dove]

you got like 80 eggs, you should be fine

[blissful perch]

Ark 2 needs more Flobs

[south lance]

flobs would finish ark2 in a week

[lavish rain]

I want Ray gun

[split dove]

i solo every rex with a blink

[ripe cedar]

What kind of rays does it shoot

[lavish rain]

Call of duty zombies ray gun

[ripe cedar]

You got laser eye?

[lavish rain]

And do you think ark2 will have multiple maps on release?

[split dove]

we'd need it to be rated r so i can let it's head explode

[ripe cedar]

No

[split dove]

no

[lavish rain]

Why

[tribal chasm]

I am wondering how 3rd person the game mode will be, 3rd person like the current one in Ark 1? Or almost some MOBA style camera

[flint vector]

Yo anyone wanna join my server in ARK 2? I got a few people here and it’s a very friendly community

[ripe cedar]

Damn you got early early access?

[flint vector]

🤤

[winged dome]

Probably similar to how it is now. MOBA style would be ... not great for this kind of game

[desert swallow]

That wouldn't work well for Dark Souls like combat.

[wild kraken]

they said souls like combat

It genuinely scares me what this game is about to become

[blissful perch]

I’m guessing souls/MHW/etc type games

[blissful perch]

I’m also scared of big positive changes 😞

[wild kraken]

Doesn’t work aswell for a game like ark

[tropic crag]

I'm scared of people who don't want the series to get better lmao

[wild kraken]

This isn’t gonna make it better

[split dove]

i forgot your rex is gonna be able to roll around and break kneecaps

[tropic crag]

How do you know? You have some secret beta?

[wild kraken]

Melee combat is fine as it is just fix the fucking game please…

also rework fliers

[blissful perch]

Melee combat is…fine?

[wild kraken]

Should be slower shits unrealistic

[blissful perch]

You good? It’s literally just mashing at people 😂

[split dove]

with autoclickers for most dino combat

[wild kraken]

Yes I’m fine actually and mashing is far better than souls like combat

For this game at least

I’m being 100% genuine when I say that I will probably enjoy the melee system as it is more than soulslike combat

But we’ll have to see we don’t even know how they are gonna make it

[prisma pike]

Apparently we'll see gameplay next week

[blissful perch]

I think ark’s ranged combat is workable…but there’s no universe where spam melee is interesting

[prisma pike]

Mgr

Spam light lol

[blissful perch]

I’m not super sold on “souls” combat per se, BUT I’d like dodges and alternative attacks at minimum

[unborn galleon]

🤔tell me more

[prisma pike]

No

[static gale]

Yo Xbox is better than every other thing

[prisma pike]

Jk look at steam page apparently there's a banner for a place it'll be shown at

[tropic crag]

we literally already talked about it, wat

[unborn galleon]

😆😆😆yeah but I dont trust it, is it 100% confirmed for games show the 17th?

[static gale]

Yes

[unborn galleon]

Gameplay confirmed?

[tropic crag]

No, it isn't

[unborn galleon]

Wait what

[static gale]

As far is I know

[prisma pike]

Lol

[static gale]

It might not be tho

[tropic crag]

Nothing is confirmed

[prisma pike]

It is

[unborn galleon]

Imma be buying like 10-15 copies and sending it to my steam friends

[tropic crag]

Where's the tweet/announcement from Wildcard saying they'll make an appearance, please? I'll wait

[past wind]

Their description of Arat: massive alien planet or something like that

I would bet we won’t need other maps

[unborn galleon]

It says ark 2 is on the showcase it just doesnt specify exactly if its gameplay

🤷‍♂️

[tropic crag]

Where?

[static gale]

But announcements say next time we talk about ark 2 it will be gameplay

[prisma pike]

The fact that it's on the list there. Also why wouldn't they show in November? Tryna get people to preorder during holiday season but hyping them up lmao.

[wild kraken]

dodges go kinda hard but im gonna miss clubbing out a full kit at obs

[past wind]

Steam

[unborn galleon]

Check pm

[past wind]

We = Wildcard

[tropic crag]

Highly doubt there'll be preorders as that's against the rules for early access games by most standards

[past wind]

Pc gamer can talk about Ark 2 without sharing new stuff

[past wind]

Me too

[past wind]

Pc gamer will talk about upcoming games

They are not promising to bring new info, or new trailers etc

They might just talk about Ark 2 and show the trailers we already saw

[wild kraken]

i just wanna see some darn diggity gameplay

but patience is a virtue

[prisma pike]

If I have to watch another re run trailer after extra life imma blow my brains out

[wild kraken]

=

[past wind]

For that reason I’m not watching this pc gamer showcase 😂

IF something new is shared there, we will know here

[tropic crag]

That's what I've been saying, idk if it's going to be Wildcard themselves making an appearance or if it's just some nerd re-presenting shit we already know

[past wind]

I believe it will be the second 😂

[tropic crag]

That'll determine if we see gameplay, because if it is Wildcard, then the recent tweet tells us that it'll be gameplay 100% as they'd be showing us Ark 2 and fall under the jurisdiction I'd think

[vital cloud]

How will this game be different aside from improvements and maps? (I think maps but idk)

[tropic crag]

Check the pins for all the info we currently have, including the Steam page (the biggest info dump thus far)

[past wind]

Totally revamped combat system

This alone is a big feature

[vital cloud]

Woohoo 🎉

I swear if we don’t have rock drakes I will sue

[past wind]

At this point, besides the 6 or so creatures we have seen on the trailers, we don’t know which creatures will come on the release day

[vital cloud]

😔 My precious rock drakes

[past wind]

I’m not saying they won’t be there, but I’m sure not all creatures will make it through

Some will be cut, I think

[vital cloud]

I know lol but I’m willing to accept that they won’t, but this will be time #2 that I’ve lost rock drakes if they are removed.

[past wind]

Hopefully they will be there 😂

[vital cloud]

I love them so much

[past wind]

But I guess you will be too busy doing other stuff to care much about them

[vital cloud]

I had one on a PVE server but it wiped, and I still mourn his loss

[vital cloud]

I will always care for my rock drakes 😤

[royal nebula]

Anyone know where it says that you are going to be able to physically damage Dino’s and visually rip off flesh or something

I know it exist somewhere I just can’t find it

[vital cloud]

excuse me WHAT 🤯

[past wind]

Maybe on that founders post they made back in June

[split dove]

the community crunch from the ark 2 xbox reveal showcase in june

[past wind]

For creature-scale combat, suffice it to say for now that when you attack something with your T-Rex in ARK 2, the results are visceral: the animation of the attack actually hard-impacts on the target (not “passing through” it), the victim’s flesh is torn, and the target physically reacts at that location to the hit – all to convey the feeling of the raw power of such a ferocious creature!

[royal nebula]

Thanks

So we thinking gameplay next week or in December

[past wind]

I’m not sure anymore. Better just wait and see

[split dove]

hmm, but either way next time ark 2 info will be shared it will be gameplay

[vital cloud]

I hope it’s worth the wait

[royal nebula]

Yes we have been waiting forever, nice to see you in this chat still lol

I remember being here everyday months ago

[split dove]

i just want more melodies from Gareth

[lime forge]

Allegedly

[wispy oyster]

Oh dang

[calm rain]

Anky looks hot af. tho that saddle will sure as hell be funky

[tropic crag]

Probably not as funky as the thorny saddle, I'd imagine

[ripe cedar]

Just sit a bit further back its not that hard

[calm rain]

tru but like thats quite far

[split dove]

you can even kind of use the spikes as a form of natural cover from the front for your character

[calm rain]

it'd be cool if it had bits on either side. like an overhanging saddle?

[calm rain]

oh truu

[ripe cedar]

I just hope there is a good bonking weapon

That is all i need

To bonk people and their pets

[split dove]

oh boy, do i want the allo skull club from the trailer/concept art

[tropic crag]

I'd be surprised if the club doesn't make an appearance in some form or another

[split dove]

i'd actually riot if we can't make skull clubs

[past wind]

Exclusive item for the ark 2 founders

[tropic crag]

A kanabo would be a sick (maybe even high tier) version of a club

[ripe cedar]

Higher tier club is just a bigger club

[tropic crag]

Yeah, a kanabo

Two handed club, bascially

[ripe cedar]

Yeah but im not japanese

[tropic crag]

Don't have to be

[ripe cedar]

Also i want girth in my clubs

[tropic crag]

Kanabo can be girthy

They can also be made of steel

[past wind]

Now you are talking about that, do you believe we will have a smithy and it’s craftables?

Flaks, crossbows etc

[tropic crag]

Probably, to an extent

I don't see why we wouldn't, maybe up to fabricator at most

[split dove]

i mean vindiago did have steel tips on his hatched and spear, so metal esc tools aren't out of the options

[tropic crag]

But that'd be the highest tier before DLC I'd hope

[past wind]

I need some stuff from the fabricator like scubas

[split dove]

alien plants (magic drugs) or just mid deep lakes

[past wind]

True

But no flaks and swords and I will riot

[split dove]

those same trailer models did have a sword esc weapon, hell if there are theris we can use the claws as blades

[past wind]

I don’t need fireweapons

But some medieval weapons will be needed 😂

[lime forge]

I would say primitive falls off well before a fabricator

I see it going up to a blend of tribal and medieval technologies

[ripe cedar]

Fabricator makes less sense than tek rep

[split dove]

so basicly smithy esc tier?

[ripe cedar]

At least with tek rep you can explain how it works as element does stuff

[lime forge]

Yeah. Kinda, but I don’t think it’ll be the smithy like Ark 1

[ripe cedar]

Fabricator is made of metal and powered by gas yet can make like 100 different things somehow

[tropic crag]

Remember fellas, it's primarily primitive, not fully primitive

[past wind]

I would look to the primitive+ mod as an indication on what to expect

[split dove]

i just want my allo skull club of death

[lime forge]

I think you’re gonna get it

[tropic crag]

Oh he's gonna get it, alright

[split dove]

they better not have it be just a trailer thing

[tropic crag]

1v1 me in Ark 2 @split dove , fite me

Club battle

[lime forge]

My money is on flobs

[tropic crag]

You gon get it

[split dove]

i accept

[lime forge]

I’d bet the tribe on it

[tropic crag]

Fair

[past wind]

Club and Vindiago skins for the early-adopters

[tropic crag]

Never was all that good at on foot combat in Ark, lol

[split dove]

i'm already capable of carrying a mountain, smacking Bruising into the core of Arat should be no problem

[tropic crag]

Te planit coooooorrre

[flint vector]

Who’s bruising

[lavish rain]

BruisingPikmin#4524

[flint vector]

Alr

[blissful perch]

*or I’ll riot. Get flak outta here

[past wind]

You can use hide armor. I want my flaks.

[tropic crag]

Metal armor of some kind is a must, if it's chainmail I won't care, but we need a cool metal armor

[calm rain]

I really hope tek in the form it is in now doesnt come back Dx

[blissful perch]

me who only cares about stats

[blissful perch]

There’s no player tek in ark 2, so you good

[split dove]

hopefully just beautifull scenery tek structures

[past wind]

It wouldn’t make sense 🤔

Unless it’s made of parts of the ship

[blissful perch]

There’s some type of ruins and other stuff around

[tropic crag]

Yeah, there is some environmental tek already confirmed

[past wind]

You mean humans were there in the past?

[mint swan]

I thought it was more primitive

[mint swan]

I think theres AI tribes, not sure

[past wind]

You know what, there’s a tek structure in the cave, on the first trailer 🤔

[mint swan]

Fr??

[past wind]

They are primitive

[mint swan]

Damn i gotta watch those again

[tropic crag]

Environmental≠usable

[past wind]

I don’t think the Aratai dominate tek

[mint swan]

Mb didn’t think abt that

[past wind]

I know, but I’m now thinking who put that structure inside the cave

It could mean humans were there before

[mint swan]

Ark devs

[past wind]

Really… 🤔

[mint swan]

lmao ik, kidding.

[past wind]

Curious to see them filling those gaps in the lore 🤔

[mint swan]

Do yall know if there are flyers in the game

Cuz im not walking everywhere

[past wind]

Definitely

[mint swan]

Thats gonna be hell

[past wind]

There are pteras and archaeopteryxes on the first trailer

[tropic crag]

I'll gladly walk everywhere, I do now

[mint swan]

In game ?

[tropic crag]

Yep

[mint swan]

Bro ark 2 is gonna cone out b4 Sons of The Forest, because Forest keeps getting delayed 💀

Imma grind out both games at the same time

[tropic crag]

Forest is slated to come out in February, is it not?

Should have a few good months before Ark 2

[mint swan]

It should be, but I’ve heard might get a 3rd delay

Hopefully not

[tropic crag]

Hope not, yeah

Been waiting to hug my mutant wife for what feels like years

[mint swan]

Lmao

Hope there are still flying mutant babies in a cave that do half your health

[tropic crag]

If the trailer is to be believed, there is 😂

[blissful perch]

The forest peaked when you could make cannibal jerky. Everything else is meh after that

[tropic crag]

But we're getting off topic now

[mint swan]

The end of forest 1 was amazing, that underground cave, the lab, and even the boss was just amazing

[mint swan]

oh yea mb

[blissful perch]

Aratai jerky in ark 2 is essential

[mint swan]

W

[mint swan]

Lil Timmy Jerky 😭 in sotf

[flint vector]

I’ll be playing ARK 2 and Soulframe as soon as they come out

[ripe cedar]

You are timmy in sotf

[spark schooner]

Im Timmy

[lavish rain]

Forest had cannibal jerky, ark 2 will have mutated alien cannibas

[split dove]

so i can get high while committing genocide on Aratai

[stray elm]

@tropic crag

Sooo, it looks like we 'may' be getting gameplay next week

[tropic crag]

Uhhh, yeah, we know

[stray elm]

Damn

[mint swan]

Wait really?

[tropic crag]

Little late to the party there, eh? 😂

[lavish rain]

Your late to the party

[stray elm]

No U

[lavish rain]

I knew as soon as I figured out raasclark wasn't bullshitting

[stray elm]

Yeah, just saw the video

[desert swallow]

Still speculation though 😦

[lavish rain]

No?

It lines up

[tropic crag]

If they aren't going to make an appearance themselves, no gameplay will be shown, simple as

If they do, it will

No one knows

[stray elm]

ARK-2 is literally on their page

[desert swallow]

Still speculation. I'm not optimistic about anything Ark 2 at moment. We'll have to wait and see. Hopefully will be pleasantly surprised.

They could just show an existing trailer

[stray elm]

How?
It's on the PC-Gamer showcase listing

[stray elm]

They literally stated "next thing you'll see of ARK-2 is gameplay"

[tropic crag]

That doesn't mean Wildcard will be there, could be some nerd recapping the recent news such as the store page

As I've stated if you woulda read up lol

[stray elm]

Should've tagged me in it. 🤷

[lavish rain]

They said next time there will be ark 2 there will be gameplay

If ark 2 gameplay isn't there, that would be con of the decade

[tropic crag]

Shoulda just read up like everyone else

[lavish rain]

Ark 2 is the biggest con in human history

[past wind]

I never watched their showcases

What they do on those?

[stray elm]

Didn't ask.
I also haven't either.

[past wind]

The reason I ask is, they might be just people talking about upcoming games

With no inside info or new stuff

We will see

[blissful perch]

Imagine lengthy discussion about speculating when we get more information to speculate about

[stray elm]

I could be wrong. But isn't showcasing a trailer on a official showcase that isn't 'your' trailer, or a trailer you don't have permission to use is illegal?
Wouldn't that be making a profit off of someone else's product?

[blissful perch]

At some point it gets silly fellas

[lavish rain]

Copyright infringement, fraud, and in some cases, identity theft

[stray elm]

Right.

[tropic crag]

They can get permission to showcase known information, like what

You guys are goofy

[stray elm]

Right.
But Wildcard themselves stated "the next thing you'll see of ARK-2 is gameplay"
Not another trailer we've seen.

[tropic crag]

The next thing that they show off, yeah

But it isn't them doing the PC Gamer showcase

It's PC Gamer

[stray elm]

But it's them giving the permission.
"the next time we talk about or share anything related to ARK 2, it will be gameplay"

[tropic crag]

If that's the case, that is

As stated

Y'all goofy

[lavish rain]

If there's no gameplay we riot on the streets

[blissful perch]

Any conversation about when we next get information is starting to sound goofy

It’ll come out when it comes out

You’ll see it on announcements. And just like the last time an announcement was sent, I’ll be here first

[lavish rain]

Proof the crime pays

[stray elm]

We'll see next week.
If we do get something, then I'm never taking anything you say serious anymore.
If I'm incorrect.....then I'm not sure since you already don't take anything I say seriously.

[polar trellis]

bruh. we just get trailer next week simple facts there is nothing to complain about

[lavish rain]

They literally said next ark2 reveal will be gameplay...

[blissful perch]

sigh “we” means WC. Perhaps the event next week isn’t “WC”, etc etc

[mint swan]

So I saw that anky pic and I'm enjoying oy

Immensely.

[mellow wadi]

That Anky is just a drawing tho right xd. Like it’ll be on an explorer note or smth

[desert swallow]

No it's an actual picture of a real anky

[mellow wadi]

bruh

[calm rain]

Its just a concept art not the actual model. It says in the image

But considering they released that im assuming that they are pretty happy with how it looks

[mellow wadi]

yeah. Alr that makes me feel a lot better abt it lol

how close do y’all think ark is to being done

[split dove]

i think they are getting close to the early access launch, seeing as they're gonna share gameplay soon, but full launch is still a while away

[mellow wadi]

oof alr

[split dove]

you knew it would be a early access launch right?

[mellow wadi]

yeah I knew that fs

but u make it sound full launch’ll be 1-2y+ away.

[tropic crag]

It probably will tbh

[mellow wadi]

yeah

How many people are working on the game

ranging around how many

[lime forge]

Bout 6

[mellow wadi]

:/

[lime forge]

Maybe 7

[mellow wadi]

on ark 2, only 7?

[lime forge]

That’s on a good day

[mellow wadi]

damn. now I see why ark 2 is actually taking so long

[lime forge]

Some days they call in because they’re hung over

I don’t really know man

[mellow wadi]

I thought WildCard was like a small sized company, but now it looks more like a group of random ppl xd

[split dove]

he took the bait as fact

[mellow wadi]

?

i thought wildcard was around 10-25 ppl at least LOL

[oak crystal]

divide by 3

[mellow wadi]

or they had 10-25 ppl working on the game with that other launcher helping out

what launcher was it?

epic?

unreal

engine

[blissful perch]

WC I think has a quite a few folks, but they’re split on different teams

[mellow wadi]

there we go

[fallow niche]

Keep it ark2 though please (gentle reminder, not saying that you're completely off topic)

[mellow wadi]

yeah I should’ve been asking how many ppl are working on the game (different teams included)

alr

[desert swallow]

A triple "A" game will have hundreds of people working on it. They will have developers that specialize in different systems, some might be devoted to AI, others devoted to events, others devoted to game engine, others devoted to programming the animations done by the Art team. The Art team is again broken into teams (models, textures, animations), same with Sound FX, marketing, project management, QA, and on and on. Ark 2 with what they've promised is probably no different than this.

Also keep in mind, they may not all be WC employees, there is a lot of outsourcing and contractors that get hired on a project of this scale.

[tropic crag]

Wildcard isn't a AAA company, don't forget

[ripe marsh]

Wildcard would be at least a AA tho, no?

[past wind]

Don't think so.

But Snail Games has their backs.

[tropic crag]

Yeah, I don't think indie/single A (if you can really even call indie that) really truly fits anymore. But they certainly aren't EA or Bethesda big still

[ripe marsh]

Yeah it doesn't feel right to call Wildcard Indie/A. Prob need new terms to identify it

[dusty pewter]

I too like AA batteries

[stray elm]

They are, yes.

They're a small/Indie studio that aim to bring AAA-level of stuff to their games.

[desert swallow]

They have a huge hit game, have a hugely anticipated game coming out and an animated series coming out based on the game universe. They aren't small by any stretch.

[tropic crag]

The Binding of Isaac is a huge hit game, even has some spinoffs, but you can hardly call Edmund McMillen and Florian Himsl a triple A game dev team, lol

The definition isn't tied to the size of the fanbase

[desert swallow]

Apples and oranges there

[potent hull]

we my see ark 2 game play her at PC Gaming Show: 2023 Preview set for November 17

[untold ingot]

I dont know if wildcard is still considered indie anymore on ark2, but for ark1 they definitely are. They certainly arent a AAA studio

[potent hull]

well if you go to steam look a ark 2 page look near top of the video it say pc Gaming show

click on it show you a list of games

on the list is ark 2

[tropic crag]

We already covered that, scroll up a bit

[ripe cedar]

I mean there are like 75 games there, I doubt one show would cover that many, or that they would not be covered very thouroughly

[past wind]

My thoughts exactly

But I will not try change anyones mind 😂

[stray elm]

This is why they're a AA-studio

[untold ingot]

I dont know if they have officially been designated that, but I think it is the right fit

[stray elm]

Double-A studios fit them perfectly.
If I recall. Double-A studios are when a small team make product that're more or less on par to a Triple-A game. But don't have the funding or size to be considered a Triple-A studio.

[stray elm]

Well, they stated themselves that they're not Indie, nor Triple-A.
So that only leaves Double-A

[ripe cedar]

I think that the naming conventions dont really have clear definitions

[stray elm]

Not really, like a lot of video-game terms.

But Double-A is the closest we'll get.

[past wind]

And has no relevance...

[desert swallow]

Google this: what is difference between AAA game studio and AA

[stray elm]

Oooooh, so it's pricing

[ripe cedar]

Uh guys we are off topic we need to talk about a different topic that we have also discussed like 20 times already

[stray elm]

So yeah, Wildcard isn't Triple-A

[ripe cedar]

No, thats just correlation

[stray elm]

Right.

[lime forge]

There are no different topics. Just turn the channel into the cult of Santiago already

[ripe cedar]

Uh can it be cult of bob 2

[oak crystal]

"'Studio Wildcard was founded in 2014 with the mission of bringing AAA quality to ambitious indie productions designed for core gamers."

From studiowildcard website.

[flint vector]

🥹

[flint vector]

🤓

[thick moat]

Same, I was so happy when I saw it idk haha

[desert swallow]

everyone asking how we ride it. Deep down inside I think we all know.

[potent hull]

we get in is mouth and ride it that way lol

were it like a suit lol

[small pollen]

Maybe it's like Hagrid's motorbike and we sit to the side of it. 😄

[mellow wadi]

lol fr

I think it’s gonna be like a saddle we put on it’s neck maybe? XD

or we sit in between the spikes

[potent hull]

no we do what naruto did site and do not move

[mellow wadi]

I don’t watch Naruto lol

[mellow wadi]

well no sh we’re sitting xd

[potent hull]

tray to site on the spike till we do not feel it

[mellow wadi]

where tho

[potent hull]

on big one

[mellow wadi]

Just hang ur self off the spikes xD

[potent hull]

i do not feel the spike i do not feel any thing i be com the spike lol

[mellow wadi]

lol

[thick moat]

i noticed something on the steam page... it may not be too big but, ARK 2 is tagged that it has coop online while ARK 1 doesn't that kinda confirms the idea that there will be a story mode... am I wrong?

at the same time it's something that isn't precise to say the least since ark 2 isnt released yet and ark 1 is... so that observation may be very wrong lol

[past wind]

Those tags aren’t relevant. They are very generic.

[past elbow]

maybe it's co op single player mode with no teathering

[thick moat]

Yeah I mean the more on the bottom ones, btw one question, wtf is mantling? XD

[past wind]

No idea 😂

[thick moat]

Lol, it says it on the ARK 2 about steam page

Im searching on google and I dont get it

[past wind]

I think it’s about the flags we see on the Rex

[thick moat]

Yeah but it's referring the character traversal mechanics

Maybe it's just vaulting

[past wind]

Where?

[thick moat]

On the steam about page, the 5th paragraph

[past wind]

Mantling is a new parkour-style maneuver that players can pull off in Fortnite Chapter 3 Season 2, where your character grabs onto a ledge or the roof of a building and pulls themselves up.

It’s a parkour maneuver

[thick moat]

Oh alright

[mellow wadi]

Aw yes. Like when climbing over a small gate, u will actually grab it not like just jump over it like regular ark

[past wind]

Assassins creed: Survival Evolved

[thick moat]

I hope they do something about the third person ONLY

[past wind]

I doubt it

Officials will be 3rd person only

[thick moat]

they could do 1st person animations while you are not in combat or doing all of those

[desert swallow]

"You'll get used to it"

[thick moat]

yeah obviously but I prefer 1st person on pvp, it's a different experience being able to sneak up on people from behind without them noticing more easily

even if it isnt the most reliable

[mellow wadi]

It’s fine

They said someone’s guaranteed to make a first person mod soon after the game comes out

[thick moat]

I enjoy official

because it doesnt wipe

that's my only problem tbh

[desert swallow]

I don't wipe either 😉

[thick moat]

bruh

[desert swallow]

but you do have a point. Official is full of skid marks.

[untold ingot]

The combat style for ark2 probably wont be super conducive to a first person mod. It will be more like a souls/conan system which doesnt really work well in fp

[thick moat]

yeah but im wondering wouldnt they be able to put 1st person while you are not in combat?

maybe it's not possible the way they did the game so we'll have to see

maybe if the 3rd person is "best in class" as they say I will not cry xd

[desert swallow]

I hope they have your character break the 4th wall

[thick moat]

they look at the screen when you are idle for too long hahah

and then it zooms into their face

[desert swallow]

or after you kill a rex they look at the screen and tell a witty joke

[thick moat]

xd

[mellow wadi]

nice cox

[blissful perch]

gets ambushed "wait why am I in third person"

[plucky anvil]

This would be kinda of terrifying

Just hear a huge roar behind you then switches to third person

[untold ingot]

Ooor, we just get used to 3rd person ☺️

[thick moat]

ashahahah that would be funny asf

[crystal dust]

what are the requirements spec for ark 2?

[thick moat]

i mean there's a big part of the playerbase who is really worried about it being 3rd person only, it will be an early acces game after all, it could change

[lime forge]

It’ll be fiiiiinnnne

[thick moat]

no idea yet, though we know UE5 is very optimized even if it has good grapichs

[blissful perch]

this isn't the sort of change that is just a flip of a switch if there's tons of mechanics reliant on third person...

[crystal dust]

i have a 3060, so i should be ok. Actually i am ok too but the temperature is what it is xD

[thick moat]

I know, there could be a way around it other than mods

[blissful perch]

I've not heard of a souls style combat system that works in first person

I've seen it for parkour, but it looks jank lol

[thick moat]

i mean ark 1 has that

climbing picks 1st person doesnt look that bad

[blissful perch]

climbing picks first person makes me sad lol, third person is best for that

but my point about combat is the same

[thick moat]

yeah I agree, combat im fine with

the others not so much

[blissful perch]

the idea is that if a system that's pretty integral to gameplay must be third person...should probably just make the whole game that perspective

[thick moat]

good point

im curious how mods for 1st person will be made then...

[untold ingot]

The number of fp to tp glitches in ark1 is a major reason for why I don't want to see a fp in ark2

[thick moat]

you mean the melee weapons swinging differently and the fire weapons having different reload times on 3rd person vs 1st person ?

im not sure I know any more bugs with 3rd person and 1st

[untold ingot]

Well the 3rd person c4 is a pretty major issue imo.

[thick moat]

OH right that thing

eh yall make good points here on why it should only be 3rd person to be fair

[untold ingot]

It makes the development simpler, and less prone to bugs. Especially it is a melee based system with lunges. That would be a nightmare if fp could lunge further than tp

[cloud cipher]

Rolls and dodge i think that why 3rd person

[tropic crag]

Tags are determined by Steam and submitted by players, they are complete bull most times

[tropic crag]

Mantling is vaulting but you go up, basically another word for climbing, like we needed more of those... (see: climbing, clamoring, ascending, etc.)

[tropic crag]

No wipe November enjoyers, unite

[thick moat]

Yeah IK i noticed that, but are the tags below affected too?

[sterile matrix]

@fickle flame when will ark 2 come

[thick moat]

When it releases

[sterile matrix]

😄

[thick moat]

👍

[nimble trail]

3k hours and I have never had such a bug

though personally with as much backlash as third person only has gotten I would be surprised if the devs didn't listen to the playerbase, it's pretty much the only thing preventing me from getting super interested along with the combat system

there is definitely such thing as too much change in a sequel

[thick moat]

Yeah but as they said before it's hard to change something that seems very engrained as the combat system it will have, it would feel weird

Souls like combat isnt really adaptable to 1st person

Unless they make it a toggle like atlas which feels.. Very clunky

[nimble trail]

easy fix, not have souls combat

[thick moat]

Scrap it all lol

[nimble trail]

yes

[thick moat]

Easy to say not so easy to do

[nimble trail]

as bad as combat is in ark 1, it is still smooth and enjoyable

[thick moat]

It's not as simple as to delete something that can affect other aspects of the game, it's more effort than you think

[nimble trail]

I don't want to get ambushed by raptors and be animation locked into a big sword swing that is so slow I know it will miss before the animation is halfway through

I know it is very hard I do indie game stuff from time to time, but in loving the design of a game, and for marketability, achievements can be made

I have a feeling that is not an area they will listen to the playerbase with, I just hope someone can mod in a good enough normal combat system

not like I play official ark 1 anyways, if ark 2 is as grindy I won't play official there either

[thick moat]

Yeah u are right, i would prefer definetly 1st person, but I can live with 3rd person, if it's done right that is

[potent hull]

i can live with bob being the new boss to fight in ark 2

[oak wigeon]

I second this

[nimble trail]

Guess I gotta wait till their first gameplay showcase to actually have a solid opinion on it, I imagine I won't be the only one complaining if it is as bad as I expect it to be

[potent hull]

then vote is in bob the new boss to fight in ark 2 ty for voting lol

jk

[oak wigeon]

I wish

[thick moat]

Yeah, im positive it will be good, I trust them..

If its bad ill lose all trust again ngl

[untold ingot]

You have never touched pvp then lol

[nimble trail]

I have though...

[spiral pollen]

10k hours third person on top first is trash

[potent hull]

no

[untold ingot]

There are tons of things you can do in 3rd person that arent possible in fp just with how the camera angles mess with things

[thick moat]

I prefer 1st person because of inmersion, ark felt way different when official had FP only

[untold ingot]

c4 is more op in tp, as is reloading and los soaking tek turrets.

[spiral pollen]

im pvp player so idk

[sullen panther]

ark2 only single modus?

[thick moat]

I am too lol

[spiral pollen]

hahaha ur not

[thick moat]

Whatevr u say

[spiral pollen]

u play firstbruh

[nimble trail]

reloading yeah unless it's modded which is what I usually play

[spiral pollen]

pvp players dont play firstperson bruh

[thick moat]

As if it matters I would clap u either way

[spiral pollen]

in first?

[thick moat]

Both

[spiral pollen]

faby first?

[thick moat]

I've been playing pvp all my hours my guy

PS4 PC all the way

[spiral pollen]

fab pvp with first

fob up 179 bob

scared

[thick moat]

I don't play as much anymore lmao

[untold ingot]

Lets bring it back to ark2

[thick moat]

I only play solo

[spiral pollen]

u say that cause scared

but u need to fob up 179

chem on top

[nimble trail]

I hope plesio returns in ark 2 and looks like a proper plesiosaur

since anky looks so good my design expectations are high

[round yew]

gameplay when

[elfin pumice]

Hopefuly on game awards

Dec 8

[barren spindle]

Or on pc presentation that says on steam page

Nov 15

[split dove]

Pretty sure that one is on the 17th, unless they changed it

[ruby isle]

i am wondering if u still need to drink and eat in ark 2?

[split dove]

They're not expanding the survival aspects much compared to ark 1, so that and hot/cold will probably stay and survival won't change much as Wildcard said they're not going for realistic survival.

[blissful perch]

Short answer: most likely, yes

[daring jetty]

Ark 2 dinos look more clean and neat than ark 1

[split dove]

I'm curious what the spino will look like if it's part of the early access launch

[daring jetty]

I am actually considerinh to make a spino mod for ark 2

I can dm my concept to you if your interested

[daring jetty]

Pretty sure they told dinos will posses migration mechanism and the weather system will be improved drastically

[split dove]

I know, I was referring to player survival. But those migrations and weather events will be part of the world event system which I'm also really excited to see gameplay for

[daring jetty]

Yea but like what do you actually want to see apart from those player characters

[supple gyro]

helicoprion for ark 2

[manic sparrow]

Hey very important question if there is any ark mods from wild card seeing this can U let me know if spinos are in ark 2 please there my fav creature ever I just want them for ark 2

[fallow niche]

All currently available information is in the pinned messages.

[manic sparrow]

Ok thankyou

[tropic crag]

I would imagine they are in, but obviously it's not confirmed as of yet so there's always that chance it didn't make the cut

Spinos are very popular though, so...

[unborn galleon]

Very

One of the top most tamed creatures to enter the aberration cave when the map was pristine /new

[blissful perch]

Preach this pls. Actually one of the coolest things ever

[thick moat]

Wtf is that mouth

I just searched it

Pretty unique ngl

[blissful perch]

Also the only large carnivore other than drakes and reapers lol so there is a gameplay reason

[supple gyro]

We need helicoprion

And anomalocaris

[unborn galleon]

I cleaned the drake cave once with 3 spino/ teammates

Regular tamed not bred spinos

[blissful perch]

Anomalocaris imo is a bit small (only about 6 feet irl) but it would be a cool support creature or maybe a “side mount” like the diplocaulus

What I crave seeing is Koolasuchus

[tropic crag]

The megalosaurus would like a word with you

[blissful perch]

That’s an allo sized carnivore (IE medium like the carno)

[supple gyro]

For real

[tropic crag]

Meh, large is large

[blissful perch]

If it doesn’t have immunity to raptor aggro, it ain’t large

If it does have immunity, I concede

[blissful perch]

Would love to also see some more Permian representation. Although I’d not be opposed to more Devonian marine life should ark 2 have vibrant waterways

[thick moat]

Isnt that a diplocaulus?

A look-a-like I mean

[tropic crag]

I don't know about raptor aggro, but I know the dossier states it's a large carnivore and that's enough for me

[blissful perch]

Imagine using the dossiers instead of game mechanics points and laughs (respectfully)

[blissful perch]

There is some vague similarity, but diplocaulus is from the Carboniferous and Koolasuchus is from the early Cretaceous

Koolasuchus is also an Antarctic badass

[hexed drift]

Why’s anky so spiky

Where am I supposed to sit🫤

[split dove]

i'd geus behind the giant spikes

[rustic oxide]

Saddle

[tropic crag]

You know where you have to sit, but do you think you have the strength with which to sit there?

[tropic crag]

I got ya, but it is classified ingame as a large carnivore, and also has one of the highest base damages of any of the carnivore creatures and can't be picked up by anything other than tusos, for whatever that's worth

[oak crystal]

You won’t ride the anky, you’ll mind control it from a distance to hit rocks.

[tropic crag]

(I will die on this hill, megalos are pog as hell, especially aberrant ones)

[oak crystal]

Megalos are tiny gigas

[blissful perch]

Large ≠ hype tho

[tropic crag]

Now I need to find out if raptors aggro to them, damn you Shifter!

My curiosity has been piqued

[blissful perch]

I’ll admit you’re right if raptors don’t aggro, so it’ll be worth the effort 😛

[tropic crag]

This isn't the channel for that, try #735196255483068497

[hexed drift]

I’m jocin

[blissful perch]

I’m a man of my word bruising. I class dino size based on aggro rules, so if the megalo has the rex/spino aggro rules it’s large

[oak crystal]

Hi jocin I’m SpongeBob

[hexed drift]

[blissful perch]

Although now that I think about it…do carnos aggro to tamed rex? I think they don’t. So maybe carno aggro should be tested

[hexed drift]

No this is Patrick

[blissful perch]

Since raptors don’t aggro to allos but carnos do? Ugh I forgot if allos have a medium aggro rule or if it’s identical to a rex

[winged dome]

95% sure Megalos don't agro raptors, but it has been a while since I've been in Ark

[tropic crag]

You gonna make me do all the footwork here to test these things, go ahead, pile more questions about dinos not answered by google why don't ya?

[mint swan]

fists are gonna actually be useful for combat other than smacking dodos 100% real

[winged dome]

I think I remember for a while Megalos were able to be pinned by pouncing raptors, but that was fixed

[blissful perch]

The burden of proof is on you for this one, since by size alone it’s clear a megalo isn’t the same size class as a spino (it’s way smaller and in line with a carno, which we both agree surely isn’t a rex in terms of size) 😂

[tropic crag]

It certainly holds it's own as a mid-to-large size carnivore, though, unlike the carno. Carno is just kinda early bleed cheese imo

[ruby isle]

cool cause i love to farm for food and use of water

[blissful perch]

It’s a pretty easy survival game mechanic compared to miserable grinds for nutrition etc

[blissful perch]

Fair point, but that’s the “meta/niche” question rather than the ecological size class WC granted it 😂

Since deinonychus is quite strong but we both agree is a little fella

[tropic crag]

True dat

[ruby isle]

yes i would like to see easy survival instead of realistic survival, it cool if basic needs stay (food, water)

[tropic crag]

I have no megalos currently it seems, so this'll take a second, gonna switch to singleplayer and just spawn one

[tropic crag]

I am sad to announce that it does, in fact, aggro raptors @blissful perch 🥲

But it does have a drag weight of 410, putting it ahead of the carno by 160, who is tied with the carbonemys at 250

[broken delta]

Pretty sure drag weight has nothing to do with aggro

[tropic crag]

It does

Not as much as being a carnivore/herbivore, but it holds a little... weight, in the calculation

[tropic crag]

This test was done during the day, where they have the debuff and are sluggish, so maybe that factors in? But I doubt it. But maybe.

Allos do not aggro raptors or carnos btw

[fallow niche]

(Bring it back to ark 2 )

[tropic crag]

Oops

[blissful perch]

No shame to the megalo tho! Just means the size isn’t the same as a spino

This is relevant to ark 2 because creature size matters

Maybe we’ll get more creatures like the allo that aren’t massive but make smaller carnivores more wary

[orchid apex]

i find it crazy that there will probably be maewings in ark 2

Spoiler for ending: ||eden ring is heading towards the ark 2 planet, meaning that most/all creatures on that ring will be on the planet||

[past wind]

Not necessarily… they can drive the lore the way they want

They can say there was an Arat Virus that killed all maewings 😂

[lime forge]

In a series of unfortunate events literally every Maewing tamed or not was killed in the crash.

[past wind]

See, there are a lot of ways to explain why some species were lost

Also, there are ways to reintroduce them in the future

[split dove]

i'd be surprised if the ocean tames managed to survive lol, even if they had aquatic creature dropships. most of them would crash/land on land and die very quikly

[past wind]

I have a theory for that. Tames on criopods were released on the planet.

Before their charge went to 0

[ionic meteor]

I dont think the eden ring crashed

[split dove]

if i see a darn tuso sliddering it's way on land in search of a lake i'm gonna laugh

[lime forge]

In an act of god every single aquatic creature managed to land in Arat oceans and survive

[split dove]

''the game demanded it''

[ionic meteor]

If yall look back at the genesis part 2 ending scene when santiago woke up the ship ai said "stable orbit confirmed"

[ruby isle]

what do you think guys PC gaming show or TGA?

[split dove]

Pc gaming show is next thursday the 17th, June was the xbox/bethesda showcase

[flint vector]

H

[flint vector]

H

[mellow wadi]

Who says maewings are going to be there

[gaunt mango]

What you guys think? Not convinced we will see anything next week

[mint swan]

Probably not till December

[ruby isle]

"figured you'd wanna see an old rock smashing buddy real quick tho"

what they mean by real quick?

pc gaming show is quicker than TGA 😄

[blissful perch]

It’s instant to see a photo, and quick to post

[past wind]

You guys are trying too hard to read between the lines. It will come when it comes and we will talk about it here exhaustively.

[mellow wadi]

It’s like a quick sneak peak during everything they’re working on rn.

[dry flame]

This comment is clearly a sign that Ark 2 has been canceled and revived as a gacha dating sim.

[muted cloak]

this other comment is clearly a sign that ark is closing all servers, and the game will be taken off the shelves. All merch will be recalled as well. Infact, the whole world, replaced, by gachas dating sim.

[dry flame]

All is now Genshin Arkpact.

[muted cloak]

Genshin arkpact reins terror on the world

[mellow wadi]

ew y’all takin abt anime?

[muted cloak]

all that remain are gacha ship names, plague, and famine

[dry flame]

It's not anime if it's an American producer.

[muted cloak]

also

gachas take over

[dry flame]

Vin Diesel stars as he tries to protect his family from the gachas, only to realize he was adopted and his family IS the gachas.

[mellow wadi]

Ah

[muted cloak]

He is brought into the evil gacha hospital, and is put into surgery, all his body parts are replaced by gacha

he can only feed on owl pellets

[dry flame]

They take his face off. Like that one movie, Face/Off.

[muted cloak]

Yes

[dry flame]

Dammit, now I kinda want this.

[muted cloak]

Gacha Diesel will star in Fast And Gacha 10

[dry flame]

Blue Crystals. Blue Sparks.™️

(Seriously I hope a modder is taking notes)

[muted cloak]

they better be

oops

[mellow wadi]

bro off topic.

[dry flame]

Dammit HLN-A, you can't stop the truth!

[muted cloak]

(without caps this time) there better be an option to play as a gacha human hybrid race in ark 2

[mellow wadi]

there xD

[dry flame]

I thought that was just what everyone did in Ark 1.

That isn't where they got the idea from? PvP meta?

[muted cloak]

Yeah i thought it was

[dry flame]

That counts as confirmation.

[muted cloak]

Wildcard

Take notes.

[crystal dust]

image ark 2 like a giant map of the world in multiplayer with real size in the game

[stray elm]

'No!'

[crystal dust]

would be nice go in the deep of ocean °ò°

[stray elm]

You can do that on a smaller map.

[crystal dust]

i mean in multiplayer

no in single

[stray elm]

You can still do that on a smaller map

[crystal dust]

a really big unique map

for whole multiplayer

[past wind]

It won't be small

they say it's a massive alien planet

[stray elm]

Smaller then the whole fucking planet

[crystal dust]

ooh nice

[past wind]

If he means the whole planet Earth...

[crystal dust]

i mean that

[stray elm]

Yeah, fuck no

[crystal dust]

whole planet with real size

[past wind]

Play Microsoft Flight Simulator then LOL

[crystal dust]

@past wind LOL

but it doesn't have dino :V

[stray elm]

That's not only a waste of time, resources, and processing power to the Engine.
But also to the dev's, since that'd requires a procedurally generated world versus an actual handcrafted world.

[past wind]

not true, I will send a DM 😂

[crystal dust]

a unique whole map for multiplayer obviously willl require a lot

[stray elm]

No shit.
But the requirements are too high for it to be worth it

[crystal dust]

but hey, whole planet in a game of survival in multiplayer, why not?

@stray elm at least the 4090 would have a reason to exist XD

[past wind]

Look for Jurassic Park Helicopter tour 😂

[mint swan]

Procedural map 👀 RIP Procedural Arks

[crystal dust]

lol

[stray elm]

I'd rather not fucking walk legit fucking a continent worth of miles to get a fucking rex.

[past wind]

I know you want a smaller map, but I want they go the Atlas way, but on the UE5. 😂

[stray elm]

Atlas is still procedurally generated

[past wind]

I know it's not a popular opinion, but I would like that

[past wind]

True, but some islands are handmade

[stray elm]

They get a handful of islands that're also procedurally generated, plop some stuff on them like ruins, and put them through a system to make a grid.
Then they do that like 20+ times

[past wind]

at first they released a huge procedural map with a few handmade ports, then they updated some islands

[stray elm]

I'd rather not waste that empty space of uselessness, and actually have a detailed map.

I also want a big map.
Bit a whole planet? Fuck that.

[stray elm]

If they do that, like a 12x12 grid system. I'd be down with that.

[past wind]

Agreed, but I want a world as large as they are able to build by hand 😂

[tropic crag]

Cool it bro, don't have an aneurysm 😂

[mint swan]

Procedural map would ruin Ark 2. as an option, MAYBE, but it's a waste of resources and time imho

[winged dome]

Is it? I thought it was prebuild islands copy/pasted in map cells 🤔

[stray elm]

My inner coder is having a fucking aneurysm after what they suggested.

[past wind]

A procedural world is literally the opposite

[stray elm]

They copy and paste procedurally generated Islands, with procedurally generated seafloors/map.

[past wind]

They don't waste time building it, but I agree the outcome isn't as good as a handmade world

[stray elm]

Then you have to think of the placement of creatures, story content, resources, etc, and where to place them on the Flight-Simulator sized map.

In Atlas, it's annoying to get resources. But the journey itself can be fun.
But I ain't going to live in America, and make a journey all the way to Africa to get some coco-beans.

This whole fucking convo gave my still waking up brain a fucking aneurysm, and I blame @tropic crag

[tropic crag]

🫡

Glad to be of service

[stray elm]

BruisingPikmin?
More like "MrCausingFuckingAneurysmsPikmin"

[winged dome]

I dunno, I liked the idea of regional resources. Atlas had the gate of 'you need a boat that takes a dozen or so hours to build, materials for repairs, and even then your journey is not guaranteed', which was a pain in the ass. If they do something similar in Ark2, I don't think it will be as much as a headache unless they have another go at a map cell style world

Even then, most early game tames are enough to get you across the map in Ark1, I expect that to roughly be the same in 2

[blissful perch]

If we get fast travel, maps can be massive imo. If not…I’m going to pass

Ab worked excellently despite being small because travel was slowed down. The end result was amazing detail and a beautiful map that didn’t feel cramped until skiffs and manas/stalkers showed up and shrank the map

[winged dome]

Yeah, Ab was awesome at release but crittercreep made it trivial

[blissful perch]

It’s true for island too, but super true of Ab, since the map was so carefully crafted for its own micro meta

[orchid apex]

well, it explains why anky, rex, dodo etc are on ark 2…the eden ring has creatures from earth and the arks

it would be weird for them to switch up the lore

[tropic crag]

There also were no brachiosaurus on the ship, but there they are, in the first trailer, so

Kinda disproves that theory a little

[iron sequoia]

I assume that the ring has stored data of lots of different dinosaurs and that, so once it crashed some systems could be broken and creating them letting them spawn throughout the planet

[oak crystal]

Just no dragons..

[tropic crag]

It did have a stable orbit in the final cutscene, but I do also think that means it may have just been for a short time before landing and/or crashing

[lime forge]

Fast travel shouldn’t exist. That’s more of a detriment to difficulty and exploration than current flyers.

[lavish rain]

It should exist, we've already explored the whole map, no need to make 6 hour trips all the time

[lime forge]

Flying should exist not fast travel

[iron sequoia]

I think it’s something we should unlock at a certain point
Instead of having the ability straight away
But limit it to a cool-down no items ect

[mortal kestrel]

yooo gameplay next week pog

@past knoll over here showing every youtuber how to actually drop arkII news

[lime forge]

Something with a cool down I could get behind, but I’d still prefer it just didn’t exist

[lime forge]

Source?

[mortal kestrel]

the tweets

[past knoll]

I think it's best to reserve some expectation mate. My guess is purely hypothetical, but admittedly I was 100% at the time. Given some doubt since by people a bit more grounded.

[mortal kestrel]

if you are wrong raas then Im adding a hat to the pile

[past knoll]

And I totally deserve it

[iron sequoia]

I try to look at it say no pods
You die at say mid~ game flying places might be getting tedious instead of flying out to where you died you can fast travel to a either map set place area or a sleeping bag if you had one nearby it will consume the sleeping bag and you can get your stuff
To impose on this more limit how many sleeping bags you can place in an area heavily

[mortal kestrel]

look at the arkII steam page, its listed for the pc gaming event thingy next week

[untold totem]

laughs at people doing actual trades and not massive murder

[stray elm]

?

[mortal kestrel]

in the interium Im hyped for SOTF making a return, time to slap some peeps

[untold totem]

more trades, less raids

[iron sequoia]

Cautious optimism is best but
Doesn’t hurt to hope at this point

[past knoll]

My in-the-moment vid, was based on the dev's tweet saying gameplay would be whatever they show next, against the pc gamer ad. But since... I've been informed some devs weren't even aware they were on their list.

[stray elm]

What does that have to do with what I said?

[past knoll]

Oh 100% Massive news!

[mortal kestrel]

I wonder if in the future SOTF will be updated with arkII assets if it kicks off

[iron sequoia]

Hopefully SOTF does kick off in really excited for it would be cool in ark2 aswell

[untold totem]

mitigate the whole travel multiple trips across 40 grids for resources by making a communal trading hubs

also the "laughs in X meme"

[mortal kestrel]

ark2: electric boogaloo

[past knoll]

Honestly if it turns out to be false, I will profusely apologise to everyone. I was blinded by this one take, and couldn't see it anyway else. I don't advocate falsely baiting at all. Theorise or question, absolutely. But not come in as sure that. It'll be a lesson learnt if I'm wrong.

[tropic crag]

You mean make it even more MMO? Blech, no thanks

[mortal kestrel]

tbh you being wrong and apologizing would make me respect you more than you being right

[stray elm]

At least you don't clickbait to a new degree, like LoadedCrysis.

[iron sequoia]

Lol

[mortal kestrel]

people like loaded crysis irritate me

all he does is bait people, and I bet most his demographic is children that dont know any better

[untold totem]

i rather not having hardcore full loot PVP tbh

[mortal kestrel]

mans was literally taking steam mods and being like "this could be in genesis part 2 btw"

fucking disgusting

[stray elm]

Mazzy confuses me so much, I need to drown my confusion in root-beer

[mortal kestrel]

same tbh, those games have a very niche player base, and dont really tend to last long

like new world granted, that game flopped because more than the full loot, but my point still stands

[tropic crag]

I'd rather not have PvP whatsoever ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stray elm]

Fair

[past knoll]

Thank you. I do mean it though. I want to be a valued source for you guys.

[mortal kestrel]

I wouldnt mind optional pvp

but I too dont want to be forced into pvp

[tropic crag]

You mean like PvE already has? Same

Consensual PvP is best PvP, change my mind

[mortal kestrel]

honestly pvp as every survival game these days has it just doesnt feel right

[stray elm]

Damn, I'm out of root-beer

[mortal kestrel]

its dumb you could spend thousands of hours on something, then some noob on the beach gets some c4 while you are offline and ruins it all

[stray elm]

We need root-beer in ARK-2

[mortal kestrel]

yus

[stray elm]

Make two variants.
The OG in a beer-bottle type that's not bad for you and heals you.
And the 'in a can' stuff that has so much sugar that it gives you a sugar rush.

[lime forge]

“Consensual PvP” huh? You joined the PvP server you consented. You were given options.

[mortal kestrel]

to be fair, at least the canned stuff doesnt have caffeine like every other soda

[stray elm]

Depends where/who you get it from.
The ones from my store do.

[mortal kestrel]

in ark, yeah

but arkII has a lot more going on tbf

between the dinos that come for dat ass and evicting the natives, pve is pretty loaded and most people probably wouldnt want to deal with pvp anyways

also, Im pretty sure rat gameplay would be most pvp in arkII anyways... which is essentially solo people picking you off while you are busy with said dinos or said eviction

[south lance]

no way i missed raasclark in the ark2 chat

[lime forge]

The entire PvP community is gonna want PvP. Adding AI raids to PvE Isn’t gonna change that.

[mortal kestrel]

Im hyped for next week and its all raas's fault

[south lance]

i think everyone would enjoy more AI raids

more AI bases and raid parties

[untold totem]

ATLAS intensifies

[south lance]

never touched atlas

[untold totem]

tbh the dinos are AI as well so..... 🤷🏼‍♀️

[lime forge]

Oh for sure. But AI is still AI. People want PvP.

[mortal kestrel]

you mean the same community thats giga toxic as hell?

yeah sure, lets listen to them and cultivate that type of community, great idea! 🙃

[south lance]

yeah def9

[mortal kestrel]

like I said

pvp you manually engage in doing is perfectly fine

I just dont want arkII to be entirely pvp focused when it has so much more going on

[south lance]

it wont

[lime forge]

Yes I mean the other half of the community.

[south lance]

id say more peoplr play pve but they play way less

the total player hours given to pvp is probably higher

[lime forge]

We go over this frequently it’s not far from 50/50

[mortal kestrel]

because they dont have to stay logged in 24/7 to prevent being offline raided

[south lance]

theres physically not enough to do in pve

[south lance]

is it really?

[mortal kestrel]

yeah

[south lance]

then pvp easily has way more player engagement overall

[mortal kestrel]

pve peeps either build awesome as hell

or dont know shit and are constantly complaining about the game being ass

usually the latter

[lime forge]

No. PvP adds a feel to the game that you just can’t get from PvE

[south lance]

that feel is the huge amount of player driven content in the form of metas

i mean even raiding/base building is mostly player driven, wc just gives you the tools and you decide the rest

[lime forge]

I like the feeling that I’m not always safe. AI just can’t replicate the danger of another player.

[mortal kestrel]

arkII clearly isnt no arkI though

however I do feel pvp will be much funner in arkII (as long as I cant be insta wiped off the map, thats what I hate most about survival game pvp tbh) much more chaotic with the dinos and natives hunting you, and with the new combat system ontop of that

[south lance]

i mean if you replaced all dinos with gigas youd probably have an even harder time lol

[lime forge]

I mean at first. But if you did that I’d just have an army of gigas by day 10

[south lance]

but the difficulty in pvp is much more tuned to what someone who wants to play sandbox pvp over long terms

[mortal kestrel]

I doubt dinos will be so linear in arkII... wildcard has shown a significantly increased capacity to make interesting tames with each exapansion

[south lance]

you wouldnt be able to spawn in

[lime forge]

Sure you could

[south lance]

no lol

[lime forge]

Just gonna have to do an ocean playthrough

[south lance]

no like, youd literally instadie cause youd get aggrod on before you loaded up ark

but regardless, yes, pvp has better survival aspects

[mortal kestrel]

I would be super surprised if arkII had a giga

(not necessarily gigas themselves, but rather what they represent... a dino thats strong literally only because its just a big ass stat check that 99% of the map cant meet)

[lime forge]

I think carchar is gonna replace the giga in Ark 2.

[south lance]

survival is actually a thing in pvp unlike pve

[robust furnace]

pve goes from fun to boring when you get a fabri

[mortal kestrel]

charchar is a very interesting tame, and I like its design where it gets stronger with each kill

[south lance]

taming is gonna be stupid advanced

i almost am gonna miss the simpler tame methods in ark1

because like, i really dont wanna get an amargasaurus

[mortal kestrel]

I just hope arkII doesnt have dinos whose only purpose is being a stat check

[south lance]

it wont

at least not the end game tames

the early game tames, which are primarily filler, probably will have some stat only dinos

[mortal kestrel]

tbh I hope arkII taming is similar to the process of taming the charchar

[robust furnace]

i do not

[mortal kestrel]

its not a bad system, you give it some treats and then take it for a killing spree

[south lance]

carchar taming doesnt seem as bad as dinop or amarg

[mortal kestrel]

it isnt really

its actually ridiculously easy for a dino as strong as it

[south lance]

giga is even easier

just get a decent longneck and 300 tranqs

[mortal kestrel]

true

[robust furnace]

carc taming is quicker lmao

[south lance]

its more reliable

[robust furnace]

it does not deserve to be as easy

[south lance]

carch you have to get a bunch of high hp dino carcasses

[mortal kestrel]

I wouldnt mind seeing something like immersive taming, where you throw food out at dinosaurs and pet them

[south lance]

or so it seems

[mortal kestrel]

wooly rhinos work pretty well for the charchar

[south lance]

oh wait the high hp dino is after carcasses

regardless, way more prep

[mortal kestrel]

yeah fair

I hope to see more egg tames as well in arkII

but maybe let us make a nest for hatching the eggs that gets different properties depending on what we use to build it with

[iron sequoia]

Mhm I enjoy egg tame steals just some need there own unique

[lime forge]

That would be cool

[winged dome]

Egg steal mostly sucks since you lose out on a lot of bonus levels. Wyverns are Drakes go to 190 while most other creatures can manage 224/225 depending on settings.

Then there's Deinonychus that get screwed with 150 😂

[iron sequoia]

Depends how they do lvls in ark2

[untold ingot]

I am hoping they mostly get rid of the level system. It makes no real sense to have such a huge discrepancy between two practically identical dinos

[iron sequoia]

The lvls gives you something to look out for
Higher lvl better stat’s better afterwards aswell

[mortal kestrel]

Im hoping arkII wont even have a level system, and instead dinos get a skill tree of sorts

[untold ingot]

I would rather they switch levels for something different, like different perks or something

[mortal kestrel]

even if investing into that dino skill tree still is just flat stat boosts with a different dress, literally anything is better than arks current leveling system

[lime forge]

Nah. Gotta have levels, they’re to iconic to get rid of. Need those growing numbers

[iron sequoia]

Mhm

[mortal kestrel]

not really no

hell a skill tree is already confirmed for the player

[untold ingot]

If ark2 is a complete numbers game like ark1 I will be thoroughly disappointed tbh

[lime forge]

I’m not saying I don’t want a Dino skill tree

[iron sequoia]

To me that joy of finding a 150 still gets me even on maps like rag

[mortal kestrel]

I want my tames to be strong because I invested time into them, not because I found this random stud out in the wild and took it to my basement for a year

(yes, this is me dissing the breeding system too)

I want colors to be more significant in arkII rather than stats tbh

[iron sequoia]

It’s important aswell to not add to much complexity or overload you with information

[untold ingot]

If colors corresponded to perks a dino has, that could be cool

[iron sequoia]

Eh I like my stuff looking The way I want not decided by a perk

[untold ingot]

Yeah, makes sense. I am just tossing out ideas