Like, a melee system being added is cool and all as long as it's not the only way to foot pvp type shit
#ark-2
prisma pike
mortal kestrel
arkII is going to be completely different from arkI
hell, if the stuff in the steam page was added to arkI, it would feel entirely different
prisma pike
The parkour is cool I guess as long as it's not trying to be some free running game and more of just "you can climb this but it'll take a minute"
minor prism
Some dude previously had a good idea I think I’d be ok with. We are stuck with 3rd person now wether we like it or not, and some guy said why don’t they make It so when u switch to a weapon it forces you in 3rd but any other time u can choose 1st
mortal kestrel
for the longest time my biggest complaint about ark is how snoozy the combat is and how boring it is to travel
so with those being changed up, Im quite hyped for arkII
minor prism
Ngl it was an ok idea tbf
mortal kestrel
yeah
prisma pike
Some dude previously had a good idea I think I’d be ok with. We are stuck with 3...
Yeah that'd work perfectly
mortal kestrel
I only really use first person for building, so I dont mind either way
prisma pike
for the longest time my biggest complaint about ark is how snoozy the combat is ...
Bro you main PvE of course the combat is ass
mortal kestrel
and with every platform getting mods, just use a pov mod
prisma pike
We play official here
mortal kestrel
"b-but official"
guess you didnt care about first person that much after all
prisma pike
Negative iq take
mortal kestrel
brutally honest take*
untold ingot
Even pvp on official is pretty bad honestly
prisma pike
brutally honest take*
Not really just a straw man argument that you tell yourself has value
minor prism
I main pve because pvp is boring as shit
In all honesty though don’t you get bored with it I had a friend who decided to stay on legacy pve because she was so attached to her stuff and didn’t wana leave it that server and base still stands today 😂 like wtf how don’t u get bored over ther
mortal kestrel
Negative iq take
not really, just a straw man argument you put out because you cant handle the truth
minor prism
6 years same walls lmao
prisma pike
Even pvp on official is pretty bad honestly
Only issues is the ability to stun and net things so easily
untold ingot
its not balanced, and the combat is basically the same everytime
mortal kestrel
In all honesty though don’t you get bored with it I had a friend who decided to ...
I play modded ark, so pvp is impractical considering you have dinos that can just straight up oneshot your base and your dino army with it
prisma pike
You can say the second part for any game
minor prism
Only issues is the ability to stun and net things so easily
Man I actually rate this 100% nets came in an ducked pvp up ngl
minor prism
I play modded ark, so pvp is impractical considering you have dinos that can jus...
True that’s fair enough lol
untold ingot
You can say the second part for any game
Technically yes, but ark pvp these days is grapples in caves, and pushing foundations
prisma pike
Bruh
mortal kestrel
You can say the second part for any game
yes but actually no
most dinos only have one attack, and the ones that have more are often broken and meta defining because of this
with other games, combat might be the same, but its all balanced similarly
compared to ark, where most old dinos are garbage because the new ones are just too fancy unless they just straight up stat check the new ones
untold ingot
Thats not really the case though. The pvp that matters isnt done with dinos, its done with turrets
prisma pike
yes but actually no
most dinos only have one attack, and the ones that have mor...
The dinos that are broken are the support dinos having too easily accessible stuns lol
And hawks
mortal kestrel
Thats not really the case though. The pvp that matters isnt done with dinos, its...
yeah so you breed up like 10 stegos with half a million hp and soak all the turrets anyway
prisma pike
You mean you get netted off and die and it gets bled by a thyla
minor prism
Or mantis lol
mortal kestrel
since when do mantis's do bleed?
prisma pike
He means clubs
minor prism
My bad I meant it is what will be used if thyla isn’t
mortal kestrel
oh
prisma pike
Mantis' paintbrush op btw
mortal kestrel
lol
minor prism
Mantis' paintbrush op btw
Ffs 😂
prisma pike
Best spam clearer in the game
mortal kestrel
give it a pompadore
prisma pike
Shit does 2k a swing to Tek foundies
minor prism
U don’t use athro?
untold ingot
Arthros only really work offline
minor prism
Bro can’t even argue with that ngl 😂
mortal kestrel
I just fly around invisible on rockdrakes at night
prisma pike
I wonder if people here still think gigs are op
minor prism
Arthros only really work offline
Yh they do u can send it at players only if u want but like u say if ther online it’s Guna get killed no doubt
prisma pike
That's when u int the mantis
blissful perch
red cave drops have medium crop plots, holo scopes, and other garbage...ur trolling XD
prisma pike
I've actually wiped a tower online on a dedi doing that lol
prisma pike
red cave drops have medium crop plots, holo scopes, and other garbage...ur troll...
Run osds and not that cave drop garbage lol
Like at least osds
Otherwise run gen 2 mission and buy tier 3 crates for most other stuff
Gen 2 bp op
2086 dura 575 flak goes crazy
prisma pike
Technically yes, but ark pvp these days is grapples in caves, and pushing founda...
You play official?
untold ingot
Yeah I have
prisma pike
You play dedis now?
untold ingot
No
prisma pike
Play at all?
untold ingot
Not pvp anymore, I lost interest in it
blissful perch
Run osds and not that cave drop garbage lol
Me playing on one map from scratch: ooh yea lemmie find OSDs on the island
prisma pike
Not pvp anymore, I lost interest in it
Hm, well, nobody grapple pvps unless you're in like, an ice cave these days lol.
minor prism
Or a crouch
prisma pike
Only crouches people really build is ice and lost island
minor prism
Center underworld another
prisma pike
Good luck with a center lol
minor prism
😂
prisma pike
Like you'll even make it to crouch uw
Unless you're going from dropdown
Were you there for 98 fob when there were two mega alliances?
minor prism
You can get in through redwoods side if I remember right, been a while since I’ve been on Center tho so I can’t really argue here lmao
untold ingot
Lets bring it back to ark2
minor prism
Were you there for 98 fob when there were two mega alliances?
Which alliances
prisma pike
Uhhh, fuck I can't remember their names it's been almost a year.
That fob on 98 had 1k people tribed lol
Anyways, ark 2 stuff...
prisma pike
Hopefully they release gameplay soon
So I can say this looks like shit and then still preorder
minor prism
Fr bro some guy came in before and said he reckons they will do a reveal with the event in November 🤔 I kinda believe him don’t know why
minor prism
So I can say this looks like shit and then still preorder
Me to bro me to 😂
prisma pike
Everyone in my tribe is like I don't wanna get ark 2 I already wasted my life on the first game, like bro. I know you're gonna play it on launch.
mortal kestrel
I want part of the jungle in arkII to haunted
minor prism
Fr bro tbf I’m tha bad egg of my tribe everyone else is optimistic about it in all fairness 😂 but even they still have concerns like what the pvp is going to be like etc
mortal kestrel
like maybe the very center, it could be full of like tribal aratai burial grounds and every time you go near it the ambient music slows down to a stop and all you can hear is just ambient whispering
minor prism
As bad as it is to say ark 2 better have op shit like ark 1 did (turkey dodorex etc Yano broken things lmao
mortal kestrel
you know arkII will have op shit tbh
with each expansion and dlc creatures have only gotten more and more complex
which is honestly a good thing, as it hopefully means creatures in arkII will just generally be more complex and a lot stronger
prisma pike
Honestly I could care less about Tek not being in the game and a that. Just, keep the foot movement like it is now with some slow climbing and the improved combat that they're saying it'll have and it'll probably be okay for me.
mortal kestrel
...which will give arkII quite the high skill floor as well as a high af skill ceiling to boot
prisma pike
Unless the melee combat is some cringe ass iframe dodge cancel shit from dark souls and elden ring
minor prism
Maaaaan I still can’t ride a gasbag 😂
mortal kestrel
Honestly I could care less about Tek not being in the game and a that. Just, kee...
foot movement is changing for sure, we are getting all kinds of parkour mechanics which i am hyped for
minor prism
Might aswell be on the moon to me those lmao
prisma pike
I'm a goated gasbag rider
mortal kestrel
Unless the melee combat is some cringe ass iframe dodge cancel shit from dark so...
well it is said the combat is dark souls inspired
prisma pike
Ew
mortal kestrel
so we know it will at least have a dodge
prisma pike
Yeah but dodges can be fine if it's like a sidestep with no iframes
mortal kestrel
from the steam page
Target-lock, blocks, dodges, combos, staggers, special attacks, emphasizing player-skill-based action.
and its labeled "souls-like melee combat"
prisma pike
But what's "souls like"
mortal kestrel
it has a dodge and some sort of combo chain
prisma pike
So 99% of fighting games
blissful perch
I’m interested to see how that combat works against creatures
prisma pike
Probably shittily
mortal kestrel
So 99% of fighting games
not open world games though
most open world games dont really have a dodge
prisma pike
Ok?
mortal kestrel
I personally hope we change our dodge animation to better fit our style
like, a dodge side step would be cool
but I personally want a dodge backflip
we are on an alien planet, fuck physics
prisma pike
That's cringe
mortal kestrel
you're cringe
prisma pike
Noooooo
mortal kestrel
for calling me cringe
blissful perch
It is cringe to backflip as a normal dodge lol
mortal kestrel
takes cringe to know cringe
prisma pike
Negative
blissful perch
If you want a special skill that gives you a funky backflip tho sure
prisma pike
I don't need to kill someone to see the faults of murder
mortal kestrel
yeah thats what I mean
skills that upgrade your dodge to make it serve different purposes
blissful perch
skills that upgrade your dodge to make it serve different purposes
I wouldn’t upgrade the dodge to a backflip either, bad idea. Too long of an animation and way too goofy looking
prisma pike
Honestly the more I think about anything relating to dark souls combat in ark the more sick I feel
mortal kestrel
like a sidestep would be a quicker dodge with minimal repositioning, where as a backflip kind of dodge would be used to create space
blissful perch
It should be a separate move
blissful perch
Honestly the more I think about anything relating to dark souls combat in ark th...
👍
prisma pike
Like they better know what they're doing or it's GOING to be dogshit
blissful perch
*to you
prisma pike
To everyone who plays pvp
mortal kestrel
It should be a separate move
true, maybe you can use your dodge upgrade by like pressing shift with your dodge or something like that
minor prism
Yoooo llllllll I forgot to ask you bro what do you think of mega tribes yourself as far as what u want in ark 2
blissful perch
If ark 2 loses 100% of ark 1’s PvP population and gains it back with people interested in souls PvP is that a loss?
prisma pike
Yoooo llllllll I forgot to ask you bro what do you think of mega tribes yourself...
Let there be 1000 member tribes I don't really care
mortal kestrel
when i say backflip, I mean the kind thats done in two animations by the way, like you flip back into a handstand and then flip back to your feet
not like, you just jump and do a full backflip midair
prisma pike
A 50 man can defend just fine if they have numbers on
blissful perch
when i say backflip, I mean the kind thats done in two animations by the way, li...
Either way, it’s goofy if it isn’t a rarely used move. And it shouldn’t be possible in anything in light armor
minor prism
Let there be 1000 member tribes I don't really care
Fair enough bro, I’m kinda on the other side I don’t want ther to be 50-200 man tribes ngl 😂 I don’t play in megas anymore so a small group of us can’t hold of 50 players like Yano
minor prism
It’s enough to cause a small tribe headache tho
I had a capped cage outside my main which u mostly see these days anyway but u can’t defend 50 tappys attacking it, it will come down lol
prisma pike
I mean, it's how the world works. Strength in numbers. Just gotta merge with a another tribe if you're a small one.
minor prism
I mean, it's how the world works. Strength in numbers. Just gotta merge with a a...
Man Yano I can’t even argue with that
mortal kestrel
Either way, it’s goofy if it isn’t a rarely used move. And it shouldn’t be possi...
like I said, its purpose would be to create space
avoiding aoe attacks, or maybe you're an archer and you dont like being so close
Im not saying the backflip style would be the default or meta defining or anything like that, Im just saying it has dramatic flair and does have its niche uses
prisma pike
I had a capped cage outside my main which u mostly see these days anyway but u c...
Shadowmanes op
prisma pike
I mean, bro, a shadowmane could dismount and kill a loooot of them.
minor prism
I have 713s on shadows so they do well tbf But I didn’t think of that at the time ngl bit of pressure make u do some dumb shit lmaoo
prisma pike
Why did y'all not have one just nearby at least
mortal kestrel
I adore shadowmanes
prisma pike
I don't
mortal kestrel
I love how mobile they are
minor prism
Man I don’t even know il be real bro I came on an it was already popping so I haven’t really got an answer on why the botness was so high 😂
mortal kestrel
mobility is my favorite thing in video games
its a big reason why I love rockdrakes so much
blissful perch
I like satisfying mobility. “Fast” is dull and balance breaking
prisma pike
Too much mobility is broken
mortal kestrel
fast is largely what I find satisfying
blissful perch
Shadowmanes just smoke the rest of the tame roster in terms of brute speed, and their movement isn’t much more exciting beyond “it can do everything”
prisma pike
Ummm skiff is still fastest thing in agme
blissful perch
fast is largely what I find satisfying
Im sorry to hear that, since it ruins balance in a survival game XD
minor prism
Astrodelphis?
blissful perch
Ummm skiff is still fastest thing in agme
Skiff isn’t in the tame roster now is it
prisma pike
Astrodelphis?
Skiff fatser boiiii
mortal kestrel
Shadowmanes just smoke the rest of the tame roster in terms of brute speed, and ...
to be fair, everything that isnt just a walking stat stick breaks the balance of ark
blissful perch
Skiff is also stupid for a large number of reasons and I’m glad it’s gone
prisma pike
Skiff isn’t in the tame roster now is it
Nah it's a tame it says you tamed it when it's made
minor prism
Skiff fatser boiiii
Fr 😂 I can’t ride skiff but I swear those astros are smoking
prisma pike
Why can't u ride skiff
mortal kestrel
because arks core balance is dinos just be walking stat checks
prisma pike
U don't need engram for it
minor prism
Why can't u ride skiff
I haven’t done gen 1 I’ve got a shit char
blissful perch
Nah it's a tame it says you tamed it when it's made
It’s classed as a tame same as a raft. Both are clearly not “tames” beyond them needing to be class coded as such
minor prism
U don't need engram for it
Madness il try it later 😂🤦♂️
blissful perch
Unless there’s a skiff dossier somewhere 👀
prisma pike
It’s classed as a tame same as a raft. Both are clearly not “tames” beyond them ...
No no no no. It responds to whistle land so clearly it's a tame that can think and act.
mortal kestrel
with arkII being more mobile in general, tames that have mobility will be less game breaking
fliers will still probably be op unless they can be easily lamed
prisma pike
Madness il try it later 😂🤦♂️
Trust me I got a mate who mains skiff and doesn't even have gen 1
mortal kestrel
I main rockdrakes because their pounce is super fun
prisma pike
Is this how all PvE players are
untold totem
Gliders are still OP
mortal kestrel
Is this how all PvE players are
no, Im just special in more ways than one
untold totem
faster than flyers, why bother ban flyers for speed reason when you have the gliders
mortal kestrel
true ^
blissful perch
no, Im just special in more ways than one
That’s how ark players are, ur not special
prisma pike
because arks core balance is dinos just be walking stat checks
This is coming from the guy who plays modded PvE.
minor prism
Rock drakes are actually underrated, u can get some shit done with those tek saddles ngl
If u know what to do wiith em
prisma pike
(whispers) mesh
mortal kestrel
This is coming from the guy who plays modded PvE.
I've played ark for 2k hours before I started playing modded thank you very much
untold totem
This is coming from the guy who plays modded PvE.
well... knowing ARK 2 is gonna be modded for consoles as well...
minor prism
(whispers) mesh
😂ffs nah I gotta play legit bro 🙏 means a lot if someone plays legit
mortal kestrel
anyway, pvp or pve modded ark is modded ark
you look at anything wrong then you and your base is fucked
prisma pike
Rock drakes are actually underrated, u can get some shit done with those tek sad...
Stalker rifle better
Peek entire chandies and not get shot lol
mortal kestrel
true
minor prism
Stalker rifle better
Aw bro I can’t knock that either the places I’ve seen that rock shit is nuts to
untold totem
😂ffs nah I gotta play legit bro 🙏 means a lot if someone plays legit
basically the majority of ARK players...
minor prism
basically the majority of ARK players...
Yh they are full of shit lmao but nah I’m clean my guy I can honestly say that lol
untold totem
Yh they are full of shit lmao but nah I’m clean my guy I can honestly say that l...
pretty boring guy if you ask me
prisma pike
Everyday I live in fear of gm recons return
untold totem
i played vanilla with a Youtuber after a year of modded and it is boring... i am glad ARK 2 console players will taste the goodness that is mods
prisma pike
Most ark mods are some cringe ass shit ngl
minor prism
pretty boring guy if you ask me
😂 each to ther own I guess. I suppose it is pretty boring when everyone around u gets a bunch of shit while ima broke g bro ngl
mortal kestrel
Most ark mods are some cringe ass shit ngl
spoken like a console pleb who has never played modded
untold totem
Most ark mods are some cringe ass shit ngl
lol homestead is basically S+ mod for consoles
same with Egg incubators, Maewings
blissful perch
Official players as masochists. They LIKE not choosing their QoL in the form of mods
mortal kestrel
you aint got no agency to talk about modded gaming
thats like me trying to talk about physics when Im obviously not physicist
prisma pike
Most the popular mods are just useless dinos being added or some giant op dino that's op for the sake of being op
minor prism
Everyday I live in fear of gm recons return
Maaaaan I’ve never seen a more true statement 😂💀
prisma pike
Official players as masochists. They LIKE not choosing their QoL in the form of ...
What do I need qol for? We have everything we need.
mortal kestrel
Most the popular mods are just useless dinos being added or some giant op dino t...
actually no
beyond s+ map mods and the castle keeps and forts series are the most popular mods, as well as just building mods in general
prisma pike
Just because not literally everything is automated or whatever it doesn't mean the game is bad.
untold totem
dont worry, you will see the truth once ARK 2 is out with console mods
mortal kestrel
^
minor prism
With the mod thing Yh some of them might appeal to me and shit I might even wana install some but ark has never got boring for me where I felt like awww I need mods here but that’s just me I get that others get bored quick ngl
mortal kestrel
yeah i do have a short attention span, especially when I feel slow
blissful perch
It’s a sandbox game. Some people think vanilla minecraft has everything and others want mods to tailor the game to their needs
mortal kestrel
and tbh ark in general just feels super slow even if you are super fast
blissful perch
Ark is no different, except that people who play vanilla PvP seem super defensive about it being somehow the best way to play 😂
mortal kestrel
like, I can run around at 1200% movement speed and still feel slow as fuck
untold totem
i like my immersion and RP mods... i dont play ARK just to no life PVP
mortal kestrel
Ark is no different, except that people who play vanilla PvP seem super defensiv...
exactly
minor prism
I love move speed ngl 😂 ark 2 better have that to lol
prisma pike
Nah in ark 2 you should move at b-bone speed
mortal kestrel
I love move speed ngl 😂 ark 2 better have that to lol
arkII will have better
a new parkour system and skill trees
I want a wall running skill, would be epic af
prisma pike
arkII will have better
a new parkour system and skill trees
Better what
minor prism
I don’t wana ramp rocks fast but I do want my char to be fast lol
blissful perch
You know there are games that are just “be fast” right Eve?
Survival games are the wrong genre to seek that
prisma pike
Yeah go play sonic
mortal kestrel
Better what
Advanced character traversal mechanics like mantling, free-climbing, parkour, sliding, and swinging!
mortal kestrel
Survival games are the wrong genre to seek that
nahhh fam
I get bored when "be fast" is the only thing to do too
because most of them games tend to be linear and have nothing else to do
prisma pike
Ark 2 should be a hyper realistic game with the only parkour being wall climbing and only blocking in combat no dodges.
mortal kestrel
besides, arkII will naturally feel faster because it will have parkour and more indepth combat
mortal kestrel
Ark 2 should be a hyper realistic game with the only parkour being wall climbing...
ew gross
prisma pike
Honestly ngl I'd actually prefer that now that I say that
blissful perch
Ark 2 should be a hyper realistic game with the only parkour being wall climbing...
Hyper realistic? Then it’s time to make PvP realistic too
mortal kestrel
arkII is on an alien planet with dinosaurs
fuck hyper realism
prisma pike
Aliens(probably) and dinosaurs are real
blissful perch
Combat is 10% of ark 2 PvP, 90% is sitting at tables discussing politics and fighting over poorly managed resources
minor prism
Hyper realistic? Then it’s time to make PvP realistic too
Woah woah woah now lads let’s all calm down here 😂😂
mortal kestrel
Aliens(probably) and dinosaurs are real
aliens are confirmed
they are called aratai
prisma pike
Combat is 10% of ark 2 PvP, 90% is sitting at tables discussing politics and fig...
So ark 1?
mortal kestrel
and the planet is called arat
prisma pike
Irl you don't need 22,000 pound of metal for a saddle
blissful perch
No, but you do need a lot of trees
For building anyway
Clear cut the jungles and forests and watch as they don’t grow back 😂😂
prisma pike
Tress do grow back tho
blissful perch
Not if you clear cut and the soil erodes
mortal kestrel
if ark was realistic everyone would be suffocating because all the wood is gone and they green housed the atmosphere making their big ass metal boxes
prisma pike
Who makes metal boxes in 2022
blissful perch
People who ride racers 🧠
prisma pike
Tru
mortal kestrel
true
"Gain both experience points from gameplay, and knowledge points by accomplishing key objectives and overcoming unique challenges, to progress along a massive skill tree filled with new active abilities, perks, and passive benefits."
Im curious what the different points will be for
minor prism
Bruh this chat tho 😂
mortal kestrel
also Im curious what these active abilities will be?
the way its worded makes it sound like they will be spells of a sort
prisma pike
Ark 2 should have an event for a part of the ship randomly falling on u and killing u instantly
mortal kestrel
"Natural and unnatural occurrences are always happening across the game world, independent of your presence! Your choices in deciding whether to interact with these events will yield rewards or challenges."
there will be events
prisma pike
also Im curious what these active abilities will be?
the way its worded makes i...
You know an active ability could be something like gaining 10% damage increase but attack slower.
mortal kestrel
but I doubt there will be parts of the ship falling and killing you, as the lifeboat exploded near the moon and so its debri will likely fall on the moon too
we only crashed with the ring
prisma pike
"Natural and unnatural occurrences are always happening across the game world, i...
Yes I know I've read the crunch
mortal kestrel
You know an active ability could be something like gaining 10% damage increase b...
that still sounds like a spell though
prisma pike
This guy
mortal kestrel
you press button, get effect that you pulled out of your ass
prisma pike
Is bleeding a spell from a deino then?
mortal kestrel
no, the deinonychus has sharp teeth
prisma pike
Okay and I'm hitting harder cause I'm mad or whatever
mortal kestrel
meanwhile you're randomly just hitting harder
prisma pike
Anything is a spell if you avoid any other answer that would make sense
mortal kestrel
well if it was anger, you wouldnt be getting a debuff
you'd just be hitting harder
prisma pike
Angry people no think right
mortal kestrel
yeah, angry people just smack
they wouldnt randomly be smacking slower, and infact would likely smack both faster and harder
not one at the cost of the other
prisma pike
Angry people tend to try and throw hits that hurt more and those usually have them pull their arms back further
mortal kestrel
no, that doesnt make sense because you wouldnt get any meaningful power moving your arm back further
power comes from your body, not your arm
prisma pike
Or they just try to grab or tackle you and beat your fucking ass
prisma pike
no, that doesnt make sense because you wouldnt get any meaningful power moving y...
You know people can move multiple parts of their body to affect others right?
mortal kestrel
to punch harder you want to step and lean into the hit
all you'd accomplish by moving your arm back and then punching is making yourself predictable, and possibly damaging your arm in the process
prisma pike
Good job not reading 👍
mortal kestrel
You know people can move multiple parts of their body to affect others right?
yeah, I've also done a lot of boxing
you know, the sport about literally punching people
prisma pike
Then you'd know that you don't only throw punches by only moving your arms
So why even bring it up
mortal kestrel
because thats what most people do is throw punches by only moving their arm
prisma pike
Bro even people who've never been in fights before subconsciously know to not do that through instinct
mortal kestrel
not from my experience
people also randomly love aiming for the head when throwing punches
prisma pike
Bro they think they're gonna do what hood people do in street fight videos and 1 hit ko you with a punch to the jaw
mortal kestrel
all they'll really do is either miss entirely or hurt their hand more than they hurt the other person x3
you have to hit a very specific spot to knock out someone
prisma pike
Not if you hit them hard enough
mortal kestrel
yeah, but you'd be more likely to break your hand than to knock them out
prisma pike
Here comes the emoji spam cause he can't recat anymore
Just as I was boutta go to sleep cause this was getting boring
mortal kestrel
I want more dinos like bloodstalkers in arkII
prisma pike
Nah
mortal kestrel
give me all the webs
or at the very least, I want grapple hooks to have actual swing and momentum physics
prisma pike
I use stalkers a lot but they shouldn't have a place in the second game with what's supposed to be in it
mortal kestrel
stalkers would work just fine as an alien tame
at least, something similar to stalkers
prisma pike
They would trivialise the whole system though
mortal kestrel
obviously not bloodstalkers themselves
mortal kestrel
They would trivialise the whole system though
you mean the whole system thats being reworked anyway?
cant even say that because we dont know what the system will even look like
mortal kestrel
we know swinging will be reworked, so more likely than not grapple hooks will have swing and momentum physics
prisma pike
If they even exist
prisma pike
With enhanced movement giving people the ability to use it 24/7 to escape things would take away from the game
mortal kestrel
I think it would add to it personally
prisma pike
People complained about fed suits on gen 2 making it too easy because of that exact reason
mortal kestrel
the game has free climbing after all, so its not like people wont have an escape anyway
prisma pike
Same problem different paint
mortal kestrel
People complained about fed suits on gen 2 making it too easy because of that ex...
grapple hooks are different though
they only really allow for escape if the terrain enables it
prisma pike
Literally any elevated object would enable it
mortal kestrel
compared to a metal suit that turns you into budget iron man
tropic crag
Is this how all PvE players are
We get it, you're superior because you play official PvP 🙄, get over yourself
mint swan
ark 2 pvp?
mortal kestrel
arkII will have pvp yeah
but I sincerely doubt it will be the communities main focus regardless of how hard the devs try to push it
narrow spindle
With enhanced movement giving people the ability to use it 24/7 to escape things...
I honestly agree i gotta deal with trolls on a daily who just use stalkers to excape the moment they get spotted and following and chasing em is a nightmare
Just cause of the weird movements and other shit they can do and matrix style movements to avoid nets
Honestly i hope they actually qa test for pvp rather then just letting the playerbase do it
So shit like gen 2 on launch doesnt repeat and you get extermely op broken shit which should have been obviously tested and thought hey maybe this is abit two much
lime forge
People complained about fed suits on gen 2 making it too easy because of that ex...
Fed suits are an end game item that doesn’t even require power. Giving players a jet pack for endless flight, rocket boost, legs that allow you to move past being over encumbered, boots that completely negate fall damage, and a helmet that provides endless oxygen though. That’s not really comparable to a grappling hook.
mighty lion
I agree with the testing before release, especially since we were already in discord listing exploits to test the moment the gen 2 vids came out. Unfortunately, releasing broken/ op creatures and items in dlc content is the best marketing tool they have. Makes it almost a necessity to have the dlc to be competitive
prisma pike
Fed suits are an end game item that doesn’t even require power. Giving players a...
But people only complained about the weight and movement.
untold ingot
I feel like comparing a tek suit to a grapple, even if it is an atlas type grapple is kind of reaching too far lol.
tropic crag
Literally grappling 🤣
silver grove
Grapples and Tek isn't needed in the game. Tek is out because it's primitive and grapples are obsolete considering how they are doing the movement system.
And yes A Tek iron man suit and a batman grappling hook are not the same thing💀
I don't think we will see either of them in the game, there's just no point
potent hull
there will be no tek in ark 2
silver grove
We know there won't be tek but there probably won't be much moderns stuff either. But as of right now we don't know where the boundaries of "primitive" goes as far as Ark 2.
tropic crag
How are grapples obsolete, when they're implementing a swinging mechanic? Especially seeing as how some people like to say that we won't be swinging from vines, then what? What the hell else are we supposed to swing from, lol
And why does the servers in common keep bugging out? It says you're in this one, then it doesn't. Tf?
silver grove
We will probably be swinging from Vines and other branches throughout the world. I'm saying we won't need grappling hooks because they are also adding climbing as a movement system. So with that said we can infer that a lot of the rocks and terrain will be scalable via climbing. Then as far as the real mountains and steep areas go we will have tames that can either climb them on their own or resort to using fliers. There probably won't be much use for a grappling hook based on this. Obviously this could be wrong and things change but if we have the ability to climb we don't really need equipment to help with that except for maybe climbing picks
tropic crag
By that reasoning, there wasn't much use for them in Ark 1... but we know how that went
untold ingot
Climbing exists in ark1 also though, I dont see a reason to not have both
tropic crag
Also, have you been banned before? Is that why you have like four other account names in your bio?
silver grove
No I just change my name often
tropic crag
Strange
silver grove
And from the way I'm interpreting it, Ark 2 climbing will be a more refined normally used system than Ark 1. Kinda like Assassin's Creed I'm assuming we will just have the knowledge and skill to climb most things at the start.
tropic crag
It could also just be an advanced/sped up way of doing the things and mechanics faster, too
silver grove
Maybe learning this from observing the Arutai doing it with ease. Idk, just my interpretation
tropic crag
Like the grappling hook could be a way to swing from most anything, not just where the conveniently placed vines are, and climbing picks just be faster than doing it with your bare hands, you know?
potent hull
hop they show us ark 2 game play next month on 5th
silver grove
Yeah that makes sense
tropic crag
Same death blades, same
silver grove
Id rather climbing picks over grappling hooks because I feel they are more primitive but it would be cool to swiftly escape the jaws of a giga with the grappling hook
tropic crag
Yeah, or like a whip, Indiana Jones style 🤣
silver grove
Back giga, back to where ye came from 💀
potent hull
Yeah, or like a whip, Indiana Jones style 🤣
and i hop they let bruising narrator the video
potent hull
ether you narrator or vin dos it
tropic crag
That's some hard competition...
potent hull
a game play video will be good to see hop it as 3 things how to build in ark 2 fight in ark 2 and crafting in ark 2
untold totem
We will probably be swinging from Vines and other branches throughout the world....
Let me pop in just to say this before I go to sleep
ATLAS does grappling hooks well (for a reused ARK code), but it does sacrifice your ability to use a weapon while grappled
If they mixed both Grapple swing of ATLAS with the Weapon while grappled in ARK 1 then it would be an interesting PVP/PVE possibilities
silver grove
Let me pop in just to say this before I go to sleep
ATLAS does grappling hooks ...
Sounds fun
untold totem
Despite having climbing picks in ATLAS they do have a rappelling mechanic as well which I actually enjoyed compared to ARK's
regal spear
I think a semi-parkour system like Far Cry Primal would work pretty well
youre not some kind of acrobat, but you arent limited to just jumping
untold ingot
Let me pop in just to say this before I go to sleep
ATLAS does grappling hooks ...
Or just not use weapons while grappled, because it makes no sense lol
pure spear
I wonder what the very most advanced tier will be. Like will there even be something as simple as a crossbow?
Or will the legendary ascendant bow BPs be the same as ascendant shotgun BPs
blissful perch
Good question…I do feel we’ll see a crossbow of SOME sort
onyx trellis
I think there will be some type of element, like edmudium, that works to create tek items
On the planet, maybe there could be areas where you can actually mine, or drill into the surface of the planet to get it. But the surroundings is filled with very powerful enemies
stray elm
I think there will be some type of element, like edmudium, that works to create ...
Edmundium 'is' element
onyx trellis
Like I said, there will some type of element, you know Edmundium is also an element he discovered right
stray elm
Like I said, there will some type of element, you know Edmundium is also an elem...
It literally 'is' element. He just renamed it cause he hated how simple the name Element was.
I don't disagree there wont be element stuff in ARK-2, but they did flatout say there wont be any usable Tek in ARK-2.
Now, future DLC's are a different story.
onyx trellis
I know its element in ark one, but AN ELEMENT that acts as Edmundium, is that clearer?
stray elm
Sooo.....an element 'substitute?'
stray elm
Not at all.
You where more implying Edmundium would be the substitute, while it literally 'is' element.
onyx trellis
Stop saying 'is' i actually said that there could be SOME TYPE of element, Edmundium is an element, not THE element, there are multiple.
stray elm
onyx trellis
😭
blissful perch
element is kinda unique...that's the plot of ark 1
onyx trellis
I know
blissful perch
so an "element substitute" doesn't make a ton of sense. That and the devs explicitly said "no tek" which kinda implies they wouldn't bother with an element substitute
onyx trellis
Element is an element named Edmundium by the founder of it, we all know its element, it's in the game
stray elm
Not like I studied Rockwell's notes to fucking know this shit for the Survival-Stories as a writer within it.
Edmundium isn't some sub-type of element. It's literally fucking element.
Rockwell just has such a high ego that he wanted to rename it to his own, with his own name in it as every element in the periodic table has done.
onyx trellis
I know its element buddy, I simply said it's an element, I never said its a sub type
Its element in the game, but its an element used to craft tek gear, two types of the work element you know?
Word(
stray elm
Stop saying 'is' i actually said that there could be SOME TYPE of element, Edmun...
This is very much implying that you think it was a sub-type
Edmundium 'is' Element, there is no difference other then names.
When Rockwell talks about "Edmundium" he's also talking about Element. They are one in the same.
onyx trellis
No need to be mad bro, I comprehend exactly what you're saying, Edmundium is element, we all know this because we've played Ark and know his notes
Its an element, look up the two meanings of the word
stray elm
Wait, are you trying to refer to it as an 'element' as in the periodic table?
onyx trellis
Element can also be something that makes another thing up as a whole
No 🙃
😂 in short, English is trash -
blissful perch
is this conversation remotely important given tek is confirmed not in ark 2?
stray elm
This is why I fucking hate the name 'element' for a 'element' that's within the Periodic table full of 'elements'
onyx trellis
Yes actually, i was mentioning the possibility of another piece of material that could be used as something to craft something at least similar to tek?
stray elm
Yes actually, i was mentioning the possibility of another piece of material that...
Right, you where referring to another 'element' (not the alien shit, the actual term for a material)
onyx trellis
Yah, just English messing us up
stray elm
No, that's called 'poor naming'
stray elm
Wished they went more into the Edmundium name then 'Element'
Cause Edmundium is an actual name compared to calling a newly discovered element 'element'
onyx trellis
Its for people who don't read the notes tho
blissful perch
Yes actually, i was mentioning the possibility of another piece of material that...
ok so if THIS is your point, then no
because there's no tek or tek like objects in ark 2
stray elm
Just call it Edmundium at that point.
onyx trellis
because there's no tek or tek like objects in ark 2
Why would they do that tho
stray elm
because there's no tek or tek like objects in ark 2
They did confirm Tek coming back environmentally.
blissful perch
because the game's focus is on primitive survival
onyx trellis
Sounds weak sauce
blissful perch
They did confirm Tek coming back environmentally.
yes but clearly meant tek items
onyx trellis
They can only go so far with primitive life
stray elm
True.
But also future DLC's can contradict this.
blissful perch
yea, if we're unlucky tek comes back in a DLC
stray elm
You call it unlucky.
I call it a 'skill-issue'
blissful perch
i derive less enjoyment from ark 1's tek suit than others...can't argue with that
silver grove
Tek makes sense for Ark considering lore and all that. My brain just has trouble connecting cave men and dinos to Iron Man.
onyx trellis
I agree with that point, it would make the game smaller, and give less room for experienced players to have a better time. Tek in ark one was made very well, and I hope they have it in ark 2, look at it like this, tek is hard to get, how many of you actually found every cave??
onyx trellis
Tek makes sense for Ark considering lore and all that. My brain just has trouble...
It's an alien planet.
blissful perch
bad question, since most people have
blissful perch
would you prefer the pvp names or the official names? wait you want me to name three PLAYERS?
onyx trellis
I would like proof as well my guy
stray elm
i derive less enjoyment from ark 1's tek suit than others...can't argue with tha...
We're also assuming tek would be the same in ARK-2.
If everything so far is to say about it. Then tek in ARK-2 would be hella different then in ARK-1.
Tek is more or less a concept, then anything. A highly advanced tier.
blissful perch
you can go to steam stats and look up who got the alpha overseer completion i guess?
silver grove
It's an alien planet.
My point still stands, in terms of the game and where it's set, it makes sense to have to Tek. But the IDEA of dinosaurs and laser weapons doesn't connect with me. It works for the game its just not my cup of tea is all
onyx trellis
My point still stands, in terms of the game and where it's set, it makes sense t...
Thats ok
regal spear
I think tek should be done in a similar way to Breath of The Wild. Sure it exists, but it’s not as advanced
silver grove
I enjoy the primitive aspect and the Tek aspects. I think it's awesome either way. My brain just prefers it stay primitive in terms of a dinosaur game.
stray elm
I think tek should be done in a similar way to Breath of The Wild. Sure it exist...
That'd kind of defeat the purpose of it. Would it not?
regal spear
You ever seen black panther? How they’re the most technologically advanced country yet still use spears?
Like that
silver grove
Regardless of how they make the game full primitive or semi primitive. Im just itching to play it 💀
stray elm
I just want to see actual gameplay to see if I want it or not.
silver grove
Hopefully Nov 5th we will get it
regal spear
I want to see what they’re doing with vin diesel
silver grove
It's my birthday wish, that means we should get it 💀
stray elm
I want to see what they’re doing with vin diesel
Santiago
silver grove
But how is that working? Like a separate campaign mode for him or is his story involved with regular ark servers?
It would be weird seeing Santiago throwing C4 on a thatch base💀
stray elm
If I'm going to guess, it'll be tied to the way you get 'knowledge points'
Which is to do 'objectives'
Which to me, sounds like missions in a form are returning. Which 'those' could be where his role is within.
It also sounds like he's having his own story, while we're also trying to discover who 'we' are. So there's probably a more overarching story then ARK-1 had.
silver grove
I'm just confused how a story like that would even work in an Ark server let alone a pvp server
I also wanna see gameplay of the arutai and what missions are related to them
stray elm
In missions.
Akin to the adventure missions in Genesis-2, they'll probably take you to a different instances of the world, where you're alone with yourself or a group to do these tasks.
silver grove
Sounds like they are mixing Ark, Elden Ring, And The Forest into one game. It's quite the interesting mix of games and I'm a fan of all 3 so this might be just what I've been waiting for 💀
onyx trellis
I just want to see actual gameplay to see if I want it or not.
They are mixing those
Oops XD
silver grove
I've never played Gen 2 and I only played Gen 1 for like 30 minutes so I have no clue how those missions went
Call me generic as fuck but the only two maps I played entirely was the island and Rag
onyx trellis
I highly recommend Aberration
silver grove
Despite owning all the dlcs I rarely ever even tried them
onyx trellis
Ahh ok
silver grove
I played aberration for a few hours in creative with a friend just to fuck around
regal tangle
IM READY FOR ARK 2. i need a fresh survival game with new mechanics
silver grove
We also tried extinction, the sunken forest was awesome but as soon as I got the surface I noped back to the island 💀
onyx trellis
Nah, Aberration is a real challenge. I am also ready for ark two
silver grove
My favorite games are survival games. I need this shit so bad.
onyx trellis
Its a good challenge and it's rlly fun to get stronger on that map, more fun than the island
silver grove
Games have been so ass for like 4 years now
onyx trellis
I disagree
silver grove
I've only liked Elden Ring and God of War 4 recently. Everything else has been hit or miss for me
onyx trellis
God of War 4 is amazing, Bloodborne is fantastic, Dying Light is great
There are tons of PS4 games that are great and I bet you haven't even played PS5 games 😂
silver grove
I used to play ps4 back in 2019, now I'm on Xbox and from the horrendous things I've heard about ps5 I will not be buying one 💀
onyx trellis
Ratchet and Clank is awesome, Gran Turismo is fun if you like racing, IMO there are great games, but I agree with the fact that Ark 2 is what I need
What have you heard
You couldn't buy one unless you had more than $1000 and you bribed
silver grove
What haven't I heard, I'm being so serious I haven't heard a single good thing about ps5 but feel free to enlighten me.
onyx trellis
The loading times are great, the graphics are almost identical to Xbox series X
silver grove
Well yeah that's expected of this generation of console. But what's different
onyx trellis
Its literally Xbox but different controller, not to mention in my opinion PS5 has better games
You didn't ask what's different
silver grove
I think ps has better exclusives
onyx trellis
You asked good things about it XD
silver grove
Xbox exclusives are mid at best.
I prefer the Xbox controller tho thats my reasoning for getting one
onyx trellis
I'm guessing you started with it
silver grove
Nope
onyx trellis
Hmm, so you went to the side of Xbots?
silver grove
My first was ps 1 - 3 and then I got xbox - Xbox 360 back to ps4 then to Xbox series s and now soon to a series X
onyx trellis
Sounds like money
silver grove
Mr krabs would be disappointed
onyx trellis
Its a shame
silver grove
My favorite console is still ps3 tho
onyx trellis
In ark two, I am hoping it will come out to Playstation within a month after Xbox
silver grove
Me too
onyx trellis
My favorite is PS4, PS3 is just worse, the controller is absolute garbage, the games were good, but I've played more than 200 all the way through
My collection is actually collecting dust-- jkjk
silver grove
I also want it to be cross platform so all my friends can get it and play
onyx trellis
But Sony won't agree, just like Ark 1
silver grove
But isn't it exclusive to pc and the newest consoles only?
So no Xbox one or ps4 and below that, only series x, s, and ps5
onyx trellis
No, its confirmed its coming to every console
silver grove
Oh nice
onyx trellis
My bad, didn't see "newest"
onyx trellis
PS4 couldn't handle it
silver grove
Cuz me and my one friend have the new Xbox but my other friends only have ps4 and Xbox one sadly
stray elm
I just read what you said. And I feel sad that you like the Sunken forest.
Unironically a very lackluster location on Extinction.
And feels like a lesser-Aberration.
silver grove
I just like green 💀
onyx trellis
Not even the Pro, the chip in a PS5 is simply superior, and couldn't do as much
Sunken forest is lesser aberration, but has different looking areas
silver grove
I know the maps I like are lack luster but it's what I envision a dinosaur game looking like. That's why the island will always be my favorite
stray elm
Sunken forest is lesser aberration, but has different looking areas
Not really.
It's just the Fertile-Chamber of Aberration condensed into a small part of the map, with all the cool mushrooms gone.
stray elm
I know the maps I like are lack luster but it's what I envision a dinosaur game ...
Never thought ARK was a dinosaur game, personally.
Seems more of a game 'with' dinosaurs.
silver grove
Nowadays hell no its not but on the island it very much is
stray elm
Not to me.
Been playing since 2015, and I saw more of a sci-fi survival game that had dinosaurs.
Can't even call it a 'dinosaur' game cause there's equal amounts of other prehistoric animals that aren't dinosaurs.
More of a 'sci-fi primeval game'
silver grove
The island is just an island with dinosaurs, which I like. Once you get into the other maps, tek, and the lore I lose interest just because my way of enjoying ark is collecting dinosaurs. Maybe it's not THE game of Ark but it's how I like to play it
stray elm
The island is just an island with dinosaurs, which I like. Once you get into the...
There's an equal amount of mammals even on The-Island as there are actual dinosaurs
silver grove
Then I will call it a primeval game, that's what I mean.
I like the mammals and dinos in the island. It's super basic but it's cool to me.
stray elm
I'd honestly would say games like The-Isle, or Path-of-Titans are more of a 'dinosaur game' then ARK is.
Those games 'only' focus on dinosaurs, while ARK has dinosaurs, with other primeval or mythical creatures.
silver grove
It's a prehistoric, primeval, survival game.
Now the game doesn't have to solely focus on the creatures but it is my favorite aspect
stray elm
Nah, the focus on animal taming is what makes ARK, ARK.
ARK is a odd, unique gem of a game that not many others are like.
onyx trellis
Thats why we like it
silver grove
That's why I like it. Basic taming, breeding and building is fun to me. But I do like to snipe stuff with a railgun here and there. Ark is very versatile and it appeals to many sides of me. I just prefer primitive and prehistoric
stray elm
It's a 'sci-fi, survival, taming-sim with primeval animals and mythical ones, that has the sense of progression of going from unga-bunga, to high advanced technology.'
silver grove
It's a very unique style but that's probably why so many people enjoy it
One map it's bland survival and the next you have to fight godzilla with fucking herpes, I mean why not 💀
stray elm
Yep.
But that's also one concern I have with ARK-2.
If it stays primitive, that defeats the "sense of progression of going from unga-bunga, to high advanced technology" part that ARK-1 had.
stray elm
One map it's bland survival and the next you have to fight godzilla with fucking...
From going on a flying version of a Halo-ring and fighting the bootleg version of The-Flood from Halo
silver grove
I like the idea of all primitive because it's how I play but is that really Ark anymore?
stray elm
Basically.
It sounds fun, but there's also many games that already do that.
onyx trellis
The whole point of Ark two is that its totally different
stray elm
And it's good to be different, but being 'too' different can be harmful.
onyx trellis
Its gonna have a lock on system, i would settle for just primitive stuff honestly, but it would be a downer
stray elm
And we don't know the long-term stuff with ARK-2.
Right now, they're just talking about the Early-Access base-game version of the game.
silver grove
I think a lot of the community won't like it but imagine the amount of new people that would play it, Elden Ring with dinosaurs and prehistoric mammals? That is free money right there
stray elm
I worry I myself wont enjoy ARK-2 for the long-term, due to the primitive nature.
It'd suck going from 7 years of ARK-1, having the progression of waking up with nothing but your underwear, to fully decked out tek-bases. To now being stuck in a primitive era for the next 7+ years.
stray elm
I think a lot of the community won't like it but imagine the amount of new peopl...
I doubt it'll be anything like Elden ring.
I see it more like Conan, honestly.
silver grove
Still the point is that type of gameplay could attract new people
But now that you mention it
7 years of just spears
... sounds pretty shit 💀
onyx trellis
Its gonna be more like Elden Ring
stray elm
... sounds pretty shit 💀
Yeah, and that's my issue so far.
This all sounds cool and great! For the short-term.
But then you start thinking about future content and DLC's, and how ARK-1 lasted for 7 years. How long will ARK-2 last?
silver grove
If we are expected to play Ark 2 for 7 years then I think the dlc maps need to be astonishing or we will need more modern stuff after a year
stray elm
Which is why, as many times as I've said it. it might break PvP balance, but I'd rather have each DLC focus on a different era of technology, then stay with spears for 7-or-so years.
silver grove
I never liked pvp but we can't just abandon it, that would cause a riot and a half
stray elm
It'd be funny, though
silver grove
It would be but that is a large part of the community about to be pissed
stray elm
Large, but not gamebreaking large.
silver grove
Fair enough
stray elm
Official wise, it's like 80% PvP and 20% PvE.
But through the whole community? It's more like 40% PvP and 60% PvE. (if you include Single-Player as PvE)
A lot of PvE players just keep to theirselves.
silver grove
Me 💀
One massive complaint
Fuck off with the console host barrier.
The amount of times my friends were pulled off a cliff because of the host tether is insane.
It's funny for me but it's not fun for friends
stray elm
Fuck off with the console host barrier.
That's due to how unironically complicated the coding of ARK is, and how last-gen consoles can't handle them as both a server, and playing on.
silver grove
Oh I know why it exists just wish It didn't 😭
onyx trellis
Then when you get older make a console thats as expensive as the Playstation, but also able to be as good as a PC
silver grove
Pffft
I was going to buy a 3k pc because I wanted to start streaming but I decided against it and settled for a console instead.
stray elm
You stream at least?
silver grove
Not often, it's really only for friends to watch me play games they don't have access to
stray elm
You should.
Never to late to be a streamer
silver grove
Either because it's not on their console or can't be bothered to pay 60 bucks for it
It was always my dream to but I don't wanna spend all day on a stream when I could be hanging out with my real friends
It wouldn't be fun to be my friend if I was streaming and editing videos all day
stray elm
You don't need to spend all day.
You can do it while just playing.
stray elm
It wouldn't be fun to be my friend if I was streaming and editing videos all day
Editing?
Thought you just wanted streaming.
silver grove
Nah I wanted to be a content creator as well
Just wouldn't have time for other stuff if I did tho
onyx trellis
You can do like 2 hours or less per day and if you're cool or funny you'll get tons of fews
stray elm
That, and if the algorithm blesses you
onyx trellis
You don't even have to stream every day bro
stray elm
It also depends on how much you want your videos edited.
silver grove
Funny sure, good personality maybe. But I would just over work myself and my friends would move on to something more engaging
stray elm
If you just wanted shortened versions of your stream, then that wont take less then an hour or two to edit and publish.
silver grove
I'll think about it. I originally wanted it to be my full time job, but its not very realistic for me and my friends. Maybe I'll stream some Ark 2 when it drops but my passion for content creation has sadly mostly died off
With all the endless twitch drama and allegations to discrimination and racism on YouTube it just doesn't seem fun to me anymore. My passion has run out.
blissful perch
content creation as a job requires personal dedication, creativity, and self marketing. It's not for everyone
silver grove
I have all those things it just seems the platforms are at war with themselves at this point. I think I'll just stick to going to my friends house on a weekend and playing cards. I might try It out with some time but I don't feel anything for it anymore
blissful perch
"My passion has run out" indicates otherwise, but then again most content creators struggle with this
silver grove
I should say
I HAD all those things
Now? Not even close
But I mean on the bright side I don't have to be a content creator to be a part of a great community. That was the whole purpose anyways
blissful perch
engaging with a community imo is pretty fun even if it's not yours 🙂
except for ark general. Scary stuff over there
silver grove
That's what it's all about
Money and views doesn't really interest me, I just want friends that like what I like
jaunty nexus
except for ark general. Scary stuff over there
Agreed
graceful tinsel
When I saw the trailer and the dodo pecking the engram, it made me think “what if this represent the implants (arks) being phased out” fft
onyx trellis
Was pecking at an implant
plain orchid
If ark is so good, why isnt there an ark 2?
onyx trellis
Why isn't there a number two of many fantastic movies
tropic crag
I never liked pvp but we can't just abandon it, that would cause a riot and a ha...
Sure we can, fuck em 😜
silver grove
Sure we can, fuck em 😜
💀🤝
lime forge
Y’all leave PvP alone it ain’t done anything wrong
stray elm
Its existence is what's wrong
lime forge
PvP is the most entertaining style of Ark. It does wonders for increasing playability. It absolutely should have a spot in Ark 2.
stray elm
It does have a spot.
And that spot is right behind the barrel of a gun, being shot old-yeller style.
elfin pumice
i think what most people dont like about pvp is that all you've worked for can be gone in minutes. Even if ur very good at it most pvp servers wipe. If u play on a server that doesn't wipe there are two options: 1. U get obliterated by the alpha megatribe that has led the server for a year or, 2. U find a new server and become the alpha tribe, where the game turns into a pve with the occasional raid to a 2x2x2 metal base with 4 turrets
lime forge
Behind the barrel of the gun is the chamber and trigger assembly. And the person shooting the gun.
tropic crag
Make no mistake, what I hate about PvP is mega tribes being a thing, like at all. They simply shouldn't be allowed in my ideal Ark 2 PvP, but I guess that's what smalls is supposed to be for, even though they play and subvert the rules there, too
Max tribe size should be like, 20, maybe?
But I've already droned on about that several times, hopefully it was actually read once or twice 😅
stray elm
But I've already droned on about that several times, hopefully it was actually r...
You mind telling me again?
sleek hornet
Just BOYCOTT ARK2.... as they don't care about customers....
Just looking for you r money
tropic crag
🤡
sleek hornet
Reporting mesher, cheaters, with all proof, picture of bases in mesh but they don't erase these players
prisma pike
They do after 4 months
Had a gm in my tribe the other day who helped us get rid of a mesh base off of our server
sleek hornet
3 time we are destryoed by same meshers and they do nithing.... FED UP with that game and that shit code
tropic crag
You mind telling me again?
Long story short, there should be one of two things:
A system in place where tribes are saved across the entire official network, which does something along the lines of either keeping your characters (since I know people like having multiple) in the same tribe, so no matter what server you're on, you have to be in the same, 20 man tribe, unless you leave it (and there's cooldowns on everything, obviously. Joining, leaving, alliances and the breaking of them, etc.)
Or, have it be so that you can only make one character, on the entire official network. This option could go either way with the whole 20 man limit thing, would work with or without it (with some other limitations, of course. Probably roughly the same as option one, with the cooldowns on tribe leaving and joining, alliance making/breaking, maybe even a cooldown between server transfers?)
stray elm
That's not a long story short.
That's a very long story long
tropic crag
There's a LOT more to it, but I'm not tryna scroll all the way back up to remember
stray elm
Can you tell me in Fortnite terms?
tropic crag
Trust me, it's short
tropic crag
Can you tell me in Fortnite terms?
🤮
That's the only forknife terminology I know
Me, throwing up
prisma pike
Long story short, there should be one of two things:
A system in place where t...
Wdym there is a cool down between server transfers. 15 minute upload timers.
tropic crag
Maybe read the whole thing? This is for the prevention of mega tribes, and pertains to players and their characters only
prisma pike
Can you tell what a joke is my guy
stray elm
Me, throwing up
Can you tell me in vomit terms?
tropic crag
"Ever heard of comedy?"
prisma pike
You haven't lol
tropic crag
Your haven't
prisma pike
😂
tropic crag
Lmao
prisma pike
Go to sleep Mr grumpy pants
stray elm
I think Bruce just devolved to suit his name.
lime forge
Just BOYCOTT ARK2.... as they don't care about customers....
Boycott? I’m dying just waiting for pre-purchase. Wild Card! Shut up and take my money!
elfin pumice
What if ark 2 had a hp system like the one in project zomboid
lime forge
Wtf is project zomboid
elfin pumice
hyper realistic zombie game
u can die from an infection caused by a cut caused by a piece of glass u stepped on after breaking into a house from the window
But most important, u can get hurt and treat body parts seperatly
But it may make the game too hard
it would be cool for armour tho. Upper left leg plate breaks, but the rest of your legs keep being protected
blissful perch
Luckily we got confirmation that the survival aspects will remain about as simple as ark 1’s
tropic crag
I wouldn't really consider separate armor pieces and/or healths to be a survival aspect, to be fair
More of just a game aspect
elfin pumice
im not saying separate pieces. a single leg piece could break in different areas and not just disappear like in ark 1
tropic crag
...
tropic crag
That's exactly what you were talking about mate
If you meant a part of the same item breaks but the other part keeps working, then yeah that's just not really all that great
Hence why games either have the pants be the pants or there be multiple pieces to them, like Fallout 4 or something
Because no one would like the pants breaking, but like, only the left pantleg tho
Just makes no sense in a videogame
tropic crag
im not saying separate pieces. a single leg piece could break in different areas...
Maybe I just need you to describe it better? I may be misunderstanding you
steel sluice
You talk too much wazzock
tropic crag
Who the hell is wazzok?
Unless you're calling me an ork wizard, in which case, thanks
steel sluice
No
tropic crag
If you meant the british derogatory term for stupid person, than you spelled it wrong
You wazzock
blissful perch
Zomboid survival in ark would be horrible. Imagine getting hit by a raptor and dying 30 minutes later from an infection that requires a 30 minute trip to find penicillin ☠️
tropic crag
I tried to like Zomboid, but it just couldn't grab me
All my friends love it though, somehow
blissful perch
The pace is too slow for unforgiving for me
tropic crag
Even the guy who isn't too bright and hates complicated games 😂
It just still feels like an alpha, after all this time, and the gameplay loop isn't rewarding at all to me
Like, what's the end goal? Survive? Okay, did that
blissful perch
It’s to my knowledge “survive as long as possible”
tropic crag
Just make a fort of 2 high boxes and TVs that the dead can't traverse, easy
Survival: accomplished
blissful perch
I’m watching syntax’s video showing scrapped concept art for ark
tropic crag
I just hate that type of game structure, same reason I hate free for all or TDM in shooters, no objective or point to it
I'm working my way there, got a lot of other videos to watch before that one
blissful perch
I just hate that type of game structure, same reason I hate free for all or TDM ...
Some games are fun for the gameplay alone and others are fun because there’s an objective
tropic crag
Yeah, competitive shooters are one where I can't just kill people and call it fun
Has to be like S&D, or CTF, or something
blissful perch
Domination 😍. Need me them flags
blissful perch
I loved some kill confirmed
tropic crag
Sucks that CoD just kinda gave up on it, at least for hardcore CTF
Hardcore CTF was my shit
blissful perch
Never played a COD with Ctf
tropic crag
Oh man, good old Black Ops 1 hardcore CTF 🤤
That was the good times
I hope there's objective based PvP in Ark 2 (have to mention it since I've said more than one thing that could be considered off topic, probably setting off one or more moderator alarms)
blissful perch
If they added tools and game-mode for unofficials that would be a start
Maybe the infrastructure for a “lobby” would be super helpful
tropic crag
Perhaps
slow drum
Third person only and how they described the combat system, those worry me
elfin pumice
nah they sound awesome imo
slow drum
Im just really not a fan of the third person only, i like never play third person unless riding a dino. Even then occasionally ill go first person
And for the souls like combat? Yeah, against other players and the npcs it sounds fine, but i am not parrying a rex lmao
elfin pumice
but with all the new mechanics that will come to ark 2 it will be hard to know what your character is doing
specially for combat
slow drum
But still, i dont see what the harm is in making 1st person still an option. Okay visibility yeah, but other games do it. I still want to dino gaem in 1st person
If they just keep it switchable then there'd be no problem with visibility
and maybe switchable with a key press, not the scrollwheel
Also they made the combat sound like For Honor combat 
elfin pumice
Also they made the combat sound like For Honor combat <:sadge:763896883856015410...
never thought of it that way but you're right
rustic oxide
slow drum
Switchable pov W
blissful perch
I’m eh about the perspective. MHW slam dunked third person so it’s certainly plausible to stay third. First only tho would be horrible lol
slow drum
Well, i dont mean first only, is just like it to stay switchable
blissful perch
if the game plays poorly in first, i don't want to see it
the idea of WC wasting time allowing for swapped perspectives and then having to deal with a bunch of whining people complaining about first person not working and then working on first person instead of new content...is pure pain
past wind
Well, i dont mean first only, is just like it to stay switchable
They’ve made it clear it won’t happen for official servers. But it will be possible on modded unnofficial servers.
mint swan
Ark 2 Mobile 😂
hybrid prairie
They’ve made it clear it won’t happen for official servers. But it will be possi...
So it’s only first person on ark 2 official?
blissful perch
So it’s only first person on ark 2 official?
only third
tropic crag
Also they made the combat sound like For Honor combat <:sadge:763896883856015410...
What was wrong with For Honor's combat? It was great, they just balanced nothing that came out after release, lol
And no duh you aren't parrying a rex, but maybe dodging it isn't out of the question
The dino combat is being changed as well, so what they mean by that is anyone's guess, but I would assume it would mesh pretty well with the other systems they intend to implement 😅
tropic crag
Ark 2 Mobile 😂
Underrated contribution to the chat right here
flint palm
I'm ready for ark 2 after next election year!
Conan sucked in 3rd person. But atleast you're able to switch between the two.
tropic crag
That's funny, I usually hear the opposite about Conan, at least in regards to combat
onyx trellis
Also they made the combat sound like For Honor combat <:sadge:763896883856015410...
Its more like the Elden Ring combat system
bold juniper
Conan combat is actually great if they removed daggers
Third person works well the only time it doesn’t is in confined place where you can ex switch to first
past wind
Third person works well the only time it doesn’t is in confined place where you ...
I have to agree, on Ark 1, when raiding a base, it is better to use first person view when inside. But, well, we better wait and see actual gameplay footage.
silver grove
Third person works well the only time it doesn’t is in confined place where you ...
Now that I think about it, since the game Is 3rd person only, in relation to confined spaces, the caves we will be able to explore will probably be much bigger to accommodate for the camera angles, so that could be exciting
stray elm
It would allow for greater environments, yes.
But now imagine all of that in first-person. 
silver grove
Nah that's illegal in 2023
bold juniper
Imagine melee combat in first person🤮
silver grove
That would be ridiculous
Cool for swinging on stuff but with all the new systems I bet 1st person would be weird
stray elm
Imagine melee combat in first person🤮
Yes, I can
icy trout
Is there a official release date yet
stray elm
Is there a official release date yet
2023
tulip garnet
Anyone know or heard if Ark 2 will have any type of taming/breeding?
flint pike
so ark 2 Will not be the taming and breeding survival game?
blissful perch
Anyone know or heard if Ark 2 will have any type of taming/breeding?
Have you seen the trailers and steam page?
blissful perch
<:veggies:756623103374917695>
Shhh. It’s ignorance, not idiocy
stray elm
Shhh. It’s ignorance, not idiocy
One in the same, to me.
tulip garnet
Have you seen the trailers and steam page?
Ive seen nothing describing either.
Otherwise I wouldnt have asked
blissful perch
Ive seen nothing describing either.
Go ahead and check the pinned messages in this channel. It should answer a lot of your questions!
blissful perch
One in the same, to me.
It’s only through willful ignorance that a sin is committed
stray elm
The fuck is a willful?
blissful perch
Intentional
stray elm
Ahh.
tulip garnet
Only thing it mentions about tames is the aratais tames. nothing about breeding
Just like it has only mentioned for months
stray elm
It’s only through *willful* ignorance that a sin is committed
Which is what I mostly think about of 'ignorant' people.
Like people who really, truly think we're the only life in this whole universe.
blissful perch
Only thing it mentions about tames is the aratais tames. nothing about breeding
That’s correct. We have no confirmation of breeding
stray elm
Only thing it mentions about tames is the aratais tames. nothing about breeding
On the SurvivetheARK page for ARK-2, it confirms that taming is returning.
Which is obvious, since that's the marketing point of ARK.
blissful perch
Which is what I mostly think about of 'ignorant' people.
Like people who really,...
Everyone is ignorant of something, since human knowledge is incomplete
It’s only those who turn away from knowledge that imo deserve scorn
stray elm
Everyone is ignorant of something, since human knowledge is incomplete
Fair, but that's taking the 'literal' definition. Which gets messy if you start taking all word definitions as literal. You know?
stray elm
It’s only those who turn away from knowledge that imo deserve scorn
Which is willful ignorance, like you said.
blissful perch
I’m ignorant of (for example) much the scripture of the Bible as well the answer to “does ark 2 have breeding?” I’d like to say I’m ignorant because of a lack of exposure to the knowledge and answers rather than because I choose to remain ignorant
It’s a fairly clean split imo between “I just haven’t had time/the chance to learn” and “I could have learned and refused” 😛
stray elm
Now, hear me out
What if tek goes into the more biomechanical shit that you see in Scorn for its artstyle?
silver grove
Mustard gas in Ark 2
stray elm
Biomechanical is not really a much explored art-media, sadly.
I can only think of System-Shock, and Scorn doing something with it.
blissful perch
Biomechanical is not really a much explored art-media, sadly.
I actually prefer that: since it seems that we wouldn’t be able to tell biomechanics apart from biology if it was done right
stray elm
Ye, that's kind of the point.
blissful perch
Rift breaker’s metallic valley sort of explores this
stray elm
Iirr, biomechanical stuff is literally organic stuff being converted/used for mechanical workings.
Like someone's bone being used as a pipe.
Not to 'that' extreme, of course. But an example.
blissful perch
Well it’s a bit tricky to say that
But you can certainly imagine it. We do it right now with plastics
stray elm
With the new lore of the movies, I believe xenomorphs are technically biomechanical.
blissful perch
Me running to ignore alien v predator content
stray elm
But you can certainly imagine it. We do it right now with plastics
It's like the saying of "every part of a computer works like a humans"
But flipped to "every part of a human, works like a computer"
They did describe tek to be a Eldritch like horror (not exact words)
So I feel like biomechanical would be perfect for a literal living substance that can turn into anything.
stray elm
*Me running to ignore alien v predator content*
Oh, also.
I learned about the sci-fi hypothetical stuff of "grey goo" if you know what that is.
ocean tendon
terminator moment
stray elm
Kind of?
But not as much.
ocean tendon
stray elm
Terminator only explored a slight corner of it.
blissful perch
They did describe tek to be a Eldritch like horror (not exact words)
So I feel l...
A living substance that can “be” anything is simply an automated hive mind
blissful perch
Or its a weird form of comic bacteria
stray elm
The-Bee-Movie
blissful perch
But in all seriousness, life that can dynamically use any material to reproduce itself is basically beyond definition
Since we define species as able to reproduce with one another and have X% similar genetics and the like
old lintel
I, personally think battle scars could fit for the game
ocean tendon
that reduce total hp
so people cant use the same stego with 7432784237 hp mutations to soak 7483784723423 turret walls
graceful tinsel
Iirr, biomechanical stuff is literally organic stuff being converted/used for me...
Bionicle
prisma pike
so people cant use the same stego with 7432784237 hp mutations to soak 748378472...
Yfw a single stego dies within 2 minutes because it tried to soak more than 15 turrets by itself
barren spindle
I would love if the game had dying light parkour with a sekiro combat
But dinos would work like Path of Titans pvp
jaunty nexus
I would love if the game had dying light parkour with a sekiro combat
Got it all imagined thanks to this comment seems dope
prisma pike
But dinos would work like Path of Titans pvp
That game is dogshit lmao
potent hull
That game is dogshit lmao
ok if the game is dogshit what game have you made to day sir
let me see no game yes
prisma pike
What a shit defense of the game
stray elm
ok if the game is dogshit what game have you made to day sir
That's a horrible defense, I'm sorry.
While video-games are objectively hard to create.
That's no excuse for game studios to not try to do anything to fix their games.
I have no idea what's this about Path-of-Titans. But this certainly is true for games like Fallout 76, that's backed by a billion dollar studio.
prisma pike
The game is just a shitty ripoff of the isle
And if people think ark 1's dino combat is all like Gigas and hate it then they'd despise that shitty game 😂
stray elm
The game is just a shitty ripoff of the isle
Well, to be fair.
The-Isle is a slight ripoff of Dino D-Day, if we're going to be like that. 
Games that allow you to play as a dinosaur aren't new.
prisma pike
No, no, no. It's like, an almost identical ripoff but shitty.
stray elm
No, no, no. It's like, an almost identical ripoff but shitty.
In what way?
ripe marsh
they're both survival sims ( walking sims )
wild pasture
ok if the game is dogshit what game have you made to day sir
tu quoque fallacy at it's finest smh😔
prisma pike
In what way?
Map is empty, way you grow is painful, unengaging and slow and combat is shit.
stray elm
That's just 90% of video-games now a days
wild pasture
so how is it an identical ripoff but also shit
prisma pike
Okay and? It's one of them.
stray elm
And yeah, I don't see them as the same.
If that's the case, then Fallout is a ripoff of Wasteland, since they're both RPG post-apocalyptic games.
Or how ARK ripped off Halo with Genesis-2.
wild pasture
me when mordhau is a ripoff of for honor (they both have swords)
prisma pike
Do you even know what the gameplay is like of the game I'm talking about
stray elm
Both are generic dino-sims, no?
wild pasture
i think we said we don't and you literally explained it so we're going off of you
prisma pike
Yes or no mf
stray elm
Yes or no mf
Yes or no to my question also. 🤷♂️
prisma pike
I asked first so quit avoiding the question
barren spindle
Idc your opineons on the game I just thought it was cool and thats it
stray elm
I asked first so quit avoiding the question
Nah, you're also avoiding the question. 
wild pasture
I asked first so quit avoiding the question
Have you ever heard of an inference bruh💀
barren spindle
No need to kill eachother over a game that is inspired by another thats inspired by another
prisma pike
Nah, you're also avoiding the question. <:RexFingerGuns:761929171614040065>
Nah, nah nah, YOU'RE avoiding MY question
barren spindle
Cause that start to sound like the fornite , pubg , cod all again
wild pasture
Nah, nah nah, YOU'RE avoiding MY question
No, now you're avoiding MY question
stray elm
Nah, nah nah, YOU'RE avoiding MY question
Nah, nah, nah, nah, mate.
You're avoiding 'MY' question.
Why're you avoiding it?
prisma pike
No no no no no why are you avoiding MY question
stray elm
Cause I've been fucking with you this whole time to by myself time to watch some gameplay of Path-of-Titans.
And yeah, they both look like generic dino-sims.
prisma pike
Both? Have you never seen or heard of the isle bruh
stray elm
I have.
I've watched friends stream it.
barren spindle
Ay everyone remember this is the ark 2 chat so stop argueing about games , everyone has different opineons wich are right
prisma pike
Hm, well, path of Titans is literally just an inferior version of the isle.
stray elm
Soon they're going to add playable humanoids to The-Isle.
Which at that point just sounds like Primal-Carnage.
prisma pike
I wish that game was on Xbox lol
barren spindle
Hm, well, path of Titans is literally just an inferior version of the isle.
Opineons m8 opineons
prisma pike
That's not an opinion
stray elm
Very much an opinion.
barren spindle
It is?
wild pasture
Definitely an opinion
stray elm
What 'isn't' an opinion is that Fallout-76 is shit.
barren spindle
It still is
wild pasture
I think that's a quantifiable fact tbh
barren spindle
Man you two start to sound like toddlers arguing about pink and blue
Shut up and accept opineons
prisma pike
Nah
wild pasture
bro this a friendly chat
prisma pike
Trollings better
barren spindle
And keep the chat ark 2 related
wild pasture
you can't spell opinions right and you can't read the room gtfo
prisma pike
Well you see someone said they wish the combat was like a certain game and I said it was shit
So it's on ark 2's topic 
barren spindle
you can't spell opinions right and you can't read the room gtfo
Yk
Not everyone is an english speaker right?
wild pasture
ok
barren spindle
I thought people were argueing and tryd to stopped it
But they were not and i made a mistake
stray elm
Hate me for this. But I personally believe ARK-2 should have RuneScape type of leveling.
Instead of just leveling up doing jackshit, you actually have to train yourself and level up in specific fields by doing stuff related to that skill.
wild pasture
NO
barren spindle
I agree with it
prisma pike
So the way leveling works in like every rpg
barren spindle
Like skyrim leveling
stray elm
So the way leveling works in like every rpg
Basically.
lime forge
Isn’t RuneScape leveling like 99% bots nowadays
barren spindle
Does RuneScape still exist?
wild pasture
oh damn just rpg leveling sounds fine i thought you were talking about it taking hundreds of hours to max a skill and tons of resources
barren spindle
Or have players whatsoever?
barren spindle
Yes, surprisingly.
Wow
wild pasture
yeah runescape and osrs still have decent player numbers
barren spindle
I thought they were dead as dirt
stray elm
It helps that there's memes about those games, and newer people want to try the game out due to the memes
barren spindle
Reminds me of TF2
wild pasture
i really don't even understand the appeal in runescape with so much better games out now like if you wanna play an rpg there's way better
stray elm
Reminds me of TF2
Exactly the same way.
barren spindle
Wich im very greateful that it still lives
stray elm
i really don't even understand the appeal in runescape with so much better games...
It's the retro-feel
Sure, there's a lot more better games out there.
But this is like playing history.
stray elm
It's why the og Half-Life 1 is still somewhat active.
People go back to it cause it was a pivotal point in gaming.
wild pasture
i understand that i just don't understand the people who still pump thousands of hours into it to this day
like there's just a difference between a walk down memory lane and being trapped in memory prison to me ig
barren spindle
It's why the og Half-Life 1 is still somewhat active.
People go back to it cause...
Same with Doom
stray elm
i understand that i just don't understand the people who still pump thousands of...
Nostalgia, or new people that unironically got hooked on it.
stray elm
Same with Doom
Ye, and the (pre Forever) Duke Nukem games
barren spindle
Yeah
stray elm
Damn, I want a Duke-Nukem reboot.
wild pasture
I wanna get back into mmorpgs but idk what i should play
barren spindle
Damn, I want a Duke-Nukem reboot.
We need one
stray elm
Technically ARK is already one.
stray elm
osrs kinda got boring and wow is expensive
WoW is what I say to myself when I see the fucking prices.
wild pasture
ong
people put more money into wow than they put into their fucking savings accounts
barren spindle
Yk what we need? More dmc style games
stray elm
Yeeep.
stray elm
Yk what we need? More dmc style games
True
lime forge
people put more money into wow than they put into their fucking savings accounts
It’s true I’m guilty
barren spindle
people put more money into wow than they put into their fucking savings accounts
40k moment
Like people take LOANS to buy 40k stuff
stray elm
But damn, I want a new Duke game.
Imagine if we get the best version of Duke, that acts like the fucking Giga-Chad for humanity.
lime forge
In my defense though it’s hard not to spend money on dumb shit when I have extra money
wild pasture
like people complain about child support but it's like a third of the price of that per month to stay a virgin and buy wow memberships
barren spindle
In my defense though it’s hard not to spend money on dumb shit when I have extra...
What about food?
lime forge
What about food?
Fridge and pantry are full
wild pasture
when he says extra he probably means expendable
barren spindle
Fridge and pantry are full
Then do as you wish
wild pasture
like leftover money after you buy everything you need for the month
but also i just could never bring myself to pay that much
barren spindle
Buy a irl sized 40k dreadnought statue if you so wish
That would be a kickass investment
stray elm
40k
barren spindle
200k
wild pasture
oh i thought you were talking about the game 40k lmao
barren spindle
Oh the game is like 20 bucks
lime forge
That’s a lot of extra money lol
barren spindle
I thought for a sec you really wanted a 30 m statue of a dreadnought
wild pasture
I thought for a sec you really wanted a 30 m statue of a dreadnought
i do, so much
stray elm
Where the would you put it?
On the roof.
Then everyone can see.
"The bad kids get thrown by the breadnought"
"BREADnought?!!"
The fuck?!?!
stray elm
That's a bot that did that
wild pasture
apparently the use of the male genitalia onto a table as a metaphor is not something condoned by the bots of this server
stray elm
Well, yeah.
'No NSFW'