ark-2

[split dove]

we told you that you are part doedic, and you didn't believe us

[wispy sierra]

btw raq, have you always been a mod? am i just dumb

[rustic oxide]

They look like a reptile armadillo

[untold ingot]

For a couple months yeah

[wispy sierra]

do you also have a clubbed tail

[blissful perch]

In the ark 2 chat we wildly swing between needing perfect scientific accuracy and complete and utter chaos, surely you know this

[fallow niche]

Maybe I should have used carnos or raptors as an example then lol

[clever vortex]

Obviously the carnos can survive the cold due to their constant naruto running warming them up lmao

[blissful perch]

It’s the paternal warmth of their yuty, duh

[clever vortex]

Yuty feathers are so effective at keeping them warm that anything within a 2km radius becomes immune to freezing.

[rustic oxide]

Pls no jellyfish in ark 2

Also no stealing item creatures

Make the game hard in a more fun way

[rare heart]

I wouldnt mind normal sized jellies

Or atleast big jellies that actually function like jellies and not homing missiles

[loud kraken]

Homing missile jelly’s….

[lavish rain]

@clever vortex @blissful perch

[past wind]

Agreed

[blazing mango]

where ark anime channel?

[blazing mango]

i loved those guys

Jelly fishing! Jelly fishing!

[swift haven]

I lost 15 ichythosaurs to jellys

[blazing mango]

yeah , i lost my 1st tame to them too

my 1st and most beloved Meg

[fallow niche]

#ark-animated-series , for some laughs for a bit since no news.

[swift haven]

[blazing mango]

i cant laugh unless i hear news about that series 😦

[fallow niche]

Well this is ark2, not animated, so you're not likely to get news for the series. All animated series info is in #ark-animated-series pins.

[blazing mango]

wow i never knew ppl tamed those guys. i just swam by them and ignored them haha

[blazing mango]

Oh i see , but that bob channel was the animated channel before? there used to be 1

[fallow niche]

The channel was just renamed.

[mint swan]

What are you say to the Ark 2 theme

[blazing mango]

got it. Thats not a good indication of whats happening 😬

I hope its not cancelled

[stray elm]

It's not.

[blazing mango]

For ark 2 , i want more tek stuff

[stray elm]

Funny

[fallow niche]

Ark 2 is going to be primarily primitive.

[blazing mango]

at first i hated it yeah but with the last 3 expansions , i can see it fits well now.

[stray elm]

Correction: Most of the loud mouths don't*
The actual majorities opinion vs the loud people are different.

[stray elm]

Well, sadly it's being removed in ARK-2

[fallow niche]

I'm good with little to no tek.

[swift haven]

Ok

[blazing mango]

Whaaat? how? they have big ships crashing from the sky with tek armors and all that stuff ...

[stray elm]

All of it is broken now.

[blazing mango]

but its still there xD

tek armor should work

at least the cat suit under armor from the terran federation tek suits

[swift haven]

What about Bob in the exotic mek

Exo*

[stray elm]

Welcome to when world-building isn't a top priority.

[fallow niche]

Should check the pins for the trailers and info, primarily primitive. The tek is gone, or at least rarely around.

[stray elm]

Note: This is also for the base-game.

They 'could' add tek in future expansions.

[fallow niche]

I'm hoping they don't add it for a while

[blazing mango]

well dang , all that world building with high tech stuff and now they scarp it lol

[stray elm]

That what happens when you listen to shit opinions in your community.

[blazing mango]

maybe they will turn the crashed tek ships into tek ruins for endgame raids and add the tek stuff as a reward

[stray elm]

I was thinking of 'salvaged tek'
Non functioning tek that you can add to your armor and weapons to increase their durability.

[blazing mango]

i feel bad about this , i sued to be one of those trolls who hated the tek stuff at first , now i see i was wrong

[blazing mango]

yeah that could work

[stray elm]

Yes.
Turn to the tek-side.

[blazing mango]

[swift haven]

I wonder if Tek Vader

[stray elm]

But to be fair. It is a unbalanced abomination of a mess in ARK-1.
I just feel like they should've tried to completely rework it, instead of scrapping it.

[blazing mango]

they could leave it as props ingame i guess

[stray elm]

Oh, well in that case it's staying

[blazing mango]

or cheat mode , like that tek/dune buggy

[stray elm]

Environmentally wise, tek is staking for the long haul.

'Usable' tek is just scrapped. (as of the base-game)

[blazing mango]

id still kill for a tek federation suit , that thing looked gorgeous!

[stray elm]

I don't know.
I prefer the classic tek-suit.

[blazing mango]

besides , if santiago is around , didnt he make tek stuff in aberation from nothing? that means he could make them again in ark2. What will be the explanation for that now? Santiago had a mind wipe? 🤣

[stray elm]

Federation looks too much like every generic sci-fi super-soldier armor.
The classic armor had a weird 'alien' feel to it.

[stray elm]

Sure, he made some tek stuff.
Doesn't mean he'll make it.

Also, different Santiago.
This one never was on Aberration.

Also, call him "Vindiago"

[blazing mango]

but still the same genius that made tek weapons of mass destruction

[stray elm]

Hints why he's not making them.
Cause he knows what would happen if he did.

[blazing mango]

true

but what about element? hmmm

[stray elm]

(even though tek itself isn't bad in-universe, and it's only as bad as the one controlling it. Akin to a nuclear bomb.)

[stray elm]

What about it?

[blazing mango]

those ships are powered by element? wouldn't there be element on the new planet too?

[stray elm]

The ship was powered by the warp-drive.

(iirr)

And also, the ship didn't crash onto the planet.
It crashed onto the main celestial planet.

[blazing mango]

ooh i see ,hmm so no element , no power for tek armors and weapons

[split dove]

correcto

[stray elm]

Note: That's if this isn't the homeworld of element.

[blazing mango]

i guess i will have to wait and see if the devs throw more info

[stray elm]

Well, have you not read the steam-page yet?

[blazing mango]

no

🤣

[stray elm]

Do it.

[blazing mango]

il go check now thanks mate

[split dove]

a lot of people haven't done that in the 3 month period since it was added

[blazing mango]

i will miss the tek stuff

❤️ HLNA❤️

she never shut up but i loved her xD

[split dove]

now she's just a pile of scrap in space

[blazing mango]

haha yeah

i wonder if there more

maybe other homodeus had their own

i really hope the devs still add some of that scifi tek lore into the story elements in ark 2

[stray elm]

True.
She was like that annoying friend you always had, but always loved.

[blazing mango]

yeah mate!

[stray elm]

And the fact you can dye her was nice.

[blazing mango]

wait what?

in gen 1-2?

[split dove]

the skin you can use on shields, not the actuall gen 1 - 2 hnla

[blazing mango]

ah , i never tried that , cool to know

[stray elm]

You can

If you dye mini-HLN-A while on Genesis 1-2, it'll change the appearance of HLN-A.
It'll also change her little subtitle icon to her correct new colors.

[ancient olive]

every time someone says vindiago i always read it as 'Wendigo" but with a V

[stray elm]

Don't care what others think
I want a Wendigo like monster in ARK-2

[ancient olive]

you tame it by feeding it live aratai

[deft saddle]

Is ark 2 getting a story mode?

I would just look at the pins but the website won't load

💀

[split dove]

a standalone story mode isn't confirmed, but it will have a story

[stray elm]

I'm still betting it's going to be within missions

[split dove]

or some world events

[stray elm]

I doubt important story-bits will be via world-events

I don't believe MMO's do that.

They'll do story-events before a new DLC comes out.

But I've never seen a online game rely on world-events for important story bits.

[winged dome]

Sea of Thieves sorta does. Limited time events that push a greater narrative

I think they can be initiated by a crew at roughly any time during their time window, and are repeatable

But yeah, probably not a good idea for Ark2

[stray elm]

Like you stated.
They're repeatable though.

And Sea-of-Thieves kind of builds their game around that concept.

[winged dome]

Not until somewhat recently. Tall Tales (the closest the game had to actual stories) were repeatable and always accessable after they were released, but the Adventures (limited time world events) are pretty new

[stray elm]

Right.
But those are most likely just events with story with them

Not MAJOR story events.
Like a characters death or such.

[blissful perch]

I mean they have character deaths and whatnot, but it’s repeatable and the characters are often (but not always) locked to a single set of tall tales

[stray elm]

That's what I mean.
I don't think it'd be a good idea to have a major character death behind a limited time event.

[winged dome]

There was though, next event is literally about saving their soul in the afterlife

I think - I haven't actually done them. Keep getting sunk by sweaty PvP tryhards 😂

[stray elm]

And that's what I'm saying.

Limiting a major story event being a limited time event isn't a smart idea.

[winged dome]

I don't disagree with you there

[stray elm]

Especially in a game like ARK, that there's more to the story then 'funny Jack Sparrow cameo.'

You know what, retract that statement

I just remembered Vin-Diesel.

[loud kraken]

Ah the good only viny weasel

[winged dome]

Yeah, Vin-Diago is an ... interesting choice. Not who I imagined Santiago looking like

[loud kraken]

What part of him? Him being 50 and lookin like he’s in he’s 30s or something? Or the fact that he has no hair.

[chilly osprey]

Or that an antisocial hacker is built like a tank. I suppose that's a stereotype but...

[stray elm]

Ironically, his brother looks more like Santiago then Vin does

[sick rivet]

Gonna be honest I forgot when they said this was planned to release

[loud kraken]

Here lemmi help you remember when it comes out, never.

[sick rivet]

Yikes 😂

[split dove]

never this year, sometime next year lol

[loud kraken]

I’m sorry I had to be the one to tell you…😂

[sick rivet]

See I couldn't remember if they said 2023 or 2024 😂

[split dove]

2023

[loud kraken]

I think they said 2050

🤔

[winged dome]

Current guestimate is front half of 2023

[sick rivet]

By the end of delays it will likely be 2024 (not trashing just seems like every game does it now)

[loud kraken]

You ain’t wrong…

[blissful perch]

I’d say Q4 2023 we’ll either have a good sense of a release date or it’ll be out. Since that’s when they have to tell us “actually no we lied about 2023”

[sweet plover]

[past wind]

I think it will be released in 2023. They have 15 months. It's enough time.

[sonic storm]

bro why yall getting hyped over a single player gma

[stray elm]

It's not.

Read the steam-page.

[split dove]

should we really be surprised people believe anything instead of official news?

[stray elm]

True

"ARK-2 is set on Earth and is prequel"

[split dove]

ark 2 will feature godzilla

[stray elm]

TRUE

[split dove]

i think they said ark 2 will have only slime creatures

[clever vortex]

and kong, but only if you preorder

[split dove]

dang preoder only bonuses these days

[stray elm]

With the 'nut and bust' mechanics for preorders only

[split dove]

🥜 🤨

[stray elm]

[clever vortex]

[iron sequoia]

I can hear this

[wispy sierra]

i thought ark 2 was a music album

[winged dome]

I mean, I'd be happy to listen to some more of Gareth Coker's fire. If I'm real lucky, the dinosaur game it's packaged with might be decent

[blissful perch]

B+ tier bait ngl but I respect the effort

[ocean tendon]

i hope some of the og soundtracks will be used

especially 'creation'

[lunar citrus]

i wouldn't say no to an excuse to listen to the King Titan theme again

[winged dome]

King Titan 2: Element Boogaloo

Hall of History though 👌

Goosebumps everytime

[blissful perch]

Me enjoying the writhing swamps theme: uh yea sure

[winged dome]

There are no bad tracks

[blissful perch]

There’s a few forgettable ones tho

[blazing mango]

Dear Ark 2 devs! I want AI companions in Ark 2. I want to be able to have my own team of tek spec ops or at least spear buddies.

Thank you bye bye

[stray elm]

You know, you might not be too far off.

We're getting the Aratai species, which are suppose to be AI counterparts to players. (able to tame and raid and such.)
Not impossible to think they'd add NPC's to help with stuff like farming and such.

[mint swan]

I hope ark2 don't have mesh as gen2

[stray elm]

And if not, probably wont be too impossible to mod useful AI companions.

[blazing mango]

something like basic things would be cool

like Conan exiles ai thrall stuff

pretty basic

to basic xD

[mint swan]

Yeah, basic but well done

[blazing mango]

it also makes the game feel/look more alive

[stray elm]

We're 100% getting a form of NPC's though.
Cause if we have Vin-Diesel as Santiago, a character. And it's been confirmed we 'WONT' be him. Then that means at least stationary NPC's are confirmed in a way.

[blazing mango]

thank god

[stray elm]

I'd like a bit more in-depth version of that, but you know.
'Without the enslaving part'

[blazing mango]

i wouldnt mind the enslaving haha

would have fit in ark 1

cuz the new legion did that

and the raiders in scorched earth

[stray elm]

Sure, but the general playerbase might not like that.

[blazing mango]

i see your point

[stray elm]

I'd rather take the safer rought and go with a 'recruitment' system.

[blazing mango]

yeah

[mint swan]

I imagine those NPC's like the Fortnite NPCs and that sucks, hope they doit a different way

[stray elm]

Hell, I'd love if some Aratai's don't wanna fight you. And you can recruit them.

[stray elm]

I don't play Fortnite. So you'll have to elaborate.

[blazing mango]

id like some human followers xD

[stray elm]

I'd be down for some Orc-alien bros

[blazing mango]

make my own terran special forces (primitive) taking out nasty mutants and aliens

[mint swan]

They just walk around in a certain place just there without doing nothing and give u stuff almost for free

[blazing mango]

Long live the terran federation!

or maybe il do a URE one , not sure

[stray elm]

Probably unnamed dudes will be like that, like 99% of RPG games that have NPC's.
But the more important story-based guys will probably not just be 'me walk to point A to B'

[blazing mango]

ex commander from the URE and old friend of Santiago

[stray elm]

Don't think that'd work if Santiago doesn't know you.

[blazing mango]

the real one i mean xD

[mint swan]

Nice

[blazing mango]

thats my Ark 2 backstory

for my char

[stray elm]

The one during the tek-war?

Man was antisocial, so I still doubt it.

[blazing mango]

mhm, i know he died there , most did

[stray elm]

Depending how the story goes in ARK-2. I'm either rolling with a new character, or recreating my ARK-1 survivor with amnesia.

[blazing mango]

i wonder if those 2 ladies are still alive.

the Federation pilot and the beast queen

[stray elm]

Diana and Mei-Yin?

[blazing mango]

yeh

[stray elm]

She was URE

[blazing mango]

she was? i thought she was Fed

[stray elm]

That's Santiago

[blazing mango]

i wonder how much time goes since diana got resurrected and left with mei

i remember reading they went to a beacon at the other side of the planet

and its left there hanging , no closure for those 2 xD

no mention of them in gen1 nor gen2.

[stray elm]

Nope.
But we may see them in ARK-2

They did say "meet epic hero'S" with a plural 's'

I would defiantly not call Santiago's child that got a few people killed 'heros'

[tropic crag]

Defiantly? You mean definitely, right? Two completely different words

[stray elm]

I forgor

[tropic crag]

Fair enough

[stray elm]

Also, no Grammar 'insert WW2 assholes' allowed.

[tropic crag]

I will grammar you all I want, and there's nothing you can do about it, buster

[stray elm]

There's plenty I can do.

[tropic crag]

Oh yeah?

Oh shit

[stray elm]

[lime forge]

Crying isn’t a valid option

[lime forge]

Day 7 of not filling my troughs until the devs give us more Ark 2 info.

Current death toll:
Giga-22
Parasaur-1
Velonosaur-7

[viscid sphinx]

please, you're only hurting yourself

[untold totem]

I thought you have died to a parasaur I was like WTF

[rustic oxide]

Boss up?

Wait a minute

Since it is souls like combat

Can't you just kill anything because of rolling

🤔

[ripe cedar]

Usually rolling takes stamina and if you run out of stamina you cant roll

[rustic oxide]

But usually in souls like game you always have time to recover it

[ripe cedar]

If you are insanely good yeah probably maybe not because tools break though

[south knoll]

Is there going to be a separate discord for ARK 2 or at least an ARK 2 announcements channel?

[ripe marsh]

you're already in it

[ripe cedar]

Maybe when the game comes out but for now no

[spiral apex]

My pc won't be good enough to rub it most likely

[tropic crag]

Rub it? I'm scared. Is your PC sentient? Does it have hands with which to rub things? * shudders *

[fallow niche]

We don't know yet, more information should come once the game gets closer to release on what we're (or Wildcard, rather) going to do.

[blissful perch]

At minimum there’s gonna be a ton of new channels

[fallow niche]

They'll likely let the admin team know beforehand, since it may be a decent change for the discord itself and we'll (mods/admins) need to be prepared for it.

[silk yarrow]

so they’re will be pvp on here or just pve story line?

[fallow niche]

Check pins for any info

[split dove]

still pvp and pve

[silk yarrow]

bet

[deft saddle]

Idk man rolling isn't going to help you against a rex💀

[rustic oxide]

Iframe's can help you against anything

[deft saddle]

big dinos should negate I frames😎

[rustic oxide]

🍉

[deft saddle]

Rolling isn't going to really help u against any Dino tbh

[ripe cedar]

They usually turn pretty slow so rolling under could help

[deft saddle]

Maybe like
A charging trike that has the turn radius of earth's orbit

But like
A Rex can just like
Turn its head

Rolling is probably going to be mostly useful against aratai

[ripe cedar]

We will see

We really have no idea yet

[past wind]

We need gameplay footage to understand it better.

[split dove]

roll kicks up dust wich can be combo'd with pocket sand to give aratai a blindness debuff

[past wind]

Not ethical. You can’t leave tek behind for ethical reasons and then use unethical fighting moves.

[split dove]

i take every advantage i can get against Vindiago

[solemn stirrup]

Funny 😐

[stray elm]

Yeah, it was pretty funny.

[tropic crag]

Unnecessary 😶

[rustic oxide]

🍉

[lunar citrus]

very possible to die to a parasaur, steal their eggs

or eat a rage flower

[empty grail]

Dying to a parasaur makes u a low value survivor

[lime forge]

Parasaur don’t attack if you steal their eggs

[ocean tendon]

[mint swan]

Yes they do 🤣

[lime forge]

Parasaur do not become hostile when you grab their eggs

[lime forge]

Parasaurs are one of the passive dinosaurs, and will not fight back even when attacked and when you take one of their eggs. Copied fresh from the wiki

[wispy sierra]

what's the current death toll

[lime forge]

Will confirm later

[lavish rain]

Think we will get info in October or even extra life???

[agile tiger]

I think well get more info before end of year

[past wind]

Probably on Extra life stream

But not for sure. Just an educated guess

[lavish rain]

What if we dont

[past wind]

Then we don’t

[agile tiger]

Then we dont

[lavish rain]

🥱

[agile tiger]

Honestly imma still be playing the original when 2 comes out, ill wait for it to get a lil polish first

[past wind]

Ark 2 on release > ark 1 after 7 years 🤯

[lavish rain]

Impossible

[agile tiger]

Big doubt

From what weve heard of ark 2 it will be a completely diff game

[past wind]

For the better 🦾

[lavish rain]

Souls combat isn't for the better imo

[agile tiger]

I am cautiously optimistic

[lavish rain]

But I need sleep so peace

[agile tiger]

Cya

[past wind]

I mean, maybe for the mega tribes meta, it might not fit so well. I don’t know

[agile tiger]

I prefer the combat we have now over souls like for the type of game ark is

[past wind]

It’s not that relevant to me

[agile tiger]

Other games i orefer souls like

[past wind]

I want to see gameplay footage

[agile tiger]

Yeah same theyve told us so little its hard to imagine what game will be without seeing

[past wind]

Then I can be more/less confident I will like it

[agile tiger]

I really dont like the idea of third person for a survival game

[past wind]

I think the current combat system is 💩

BUT souls like might be bad for the mega tribes raids

[agile tiger]

It is but it fits the type of game ark is

Imagine if minecraft had souls like combat

[past wind]

Well, I don’t like Minecraft the way it is, so it could be an improvement 😂

[stray elm]

Minecraft is also, that, minecraft.
ARK-2 is a whole new game.
If they did do a Minecraft-2, it'd be different in theory. With the same basic stuff that made the first game

[agile tiger]

Yes ark 2 is vastly different

[stray elm]

Also, I can.
There's a mod that does that.
And if you're playing on a heavily modded save with a lot of melee weapons, then it actually fits the combat better.

[agile tiger]

Im waiting to see gameplay, its hard to say if ark 2 will be the life consuming game its older brother is

[stray elm]

God, I hope not.

[soft steppe]

Should make it turn based combat like pokemon lol

[agile tiger]

If its vastly different but still immense in scale i would love it

[stray elm]

I want to play a game.
Not dedicate a whole second life into it.

[soft steppe]

Trex use bite.!

[agile tiger]

I want a game to dedicate a second life to im a loser

[stray elm]

From the steam-page, it sounds like (in theory) it's the same ARK we know in the most basic ways (survival, progression, building, mass taming, etc) but with many, many, many other things.

[agile tiger]

If the core essence of the game is similar or the same Ill love it

The whole thing i like about ark is how lost you can get in it

[stray elm]

It does sounds like the core experience is the same. (as I listed off)

[agile tiger]

We must wait and see gameplay which hopefully will be soon

Im sure itll be an amazing game either way

[stray elm]

It's kind of like the jump between Fallout 2 and Fallout 3, if you know what I mean.

[agile tiger]

Yes ive had that thought myself

[stray elm]

Same game in theory, with the basics the original had.
But VASTLY different.

[agile tiger]

The idea of npc humanoids to fight against in PvE really gets my heart going

[stray elm]

Also, story-based NPC's

[agile tiger]

How will the game being story driven work in multiplayer though it makes me wonder

[stray elm]

Same as Genesis-2.

Or how any other MMO or online game has a story, but is online

Missions/quests set outside of the normal overworld, in their own pocket sections.

[agile tiger]

I would like if ark 2 was more like an MMO

[stray elm]

'No'

[agile tiger]

With even larger servers

[stray elm]

I like my FPS and non-overly marketed game.

[agile tiger]

Hahaha

Isnt ark 2 confirmed 3rd person?

[untold totem]

If they wanted a "cinema grade graphics" I doubt they care about your FPS lmao

[stray elm]

Then clearly you know nothing about game design, cause you can have both if you know what you're doing.

It's hard, but possible.

And requires a AAA-level team

[untold totem]

That is why most games are always go for "photo realism" even the fantasy ones

While games like Valheim do just fine with just PS2 like graphics

[stray elm]

Like, look at the Demon's-Souls remake.
That shit looks good as shit

[stray elm]

It's an artistic approach on different fields.

[untold totem]

I always prefer playability > high graphical detail anyways

[stray elm]

One game wants to look cinematically great.
The other wants to be a immersive world.

[stray elm]

Oh, I do to.
But they don't always have to be separate.

[stray elm]

Look at Demon's Souls remake gameplay.
That shit looks cinematic as hell, and I think the game runs a normal 70-80 FPS

[past wind]

You can’t compare Ark and Demon souls

On Ark the cpu is hit hard

[stray elm]

I wasn't.
Read the convo

[past wind]

More than the GPU

[past wind]

My point is, the ark kind of games won’t perform that good

[stray elm]

Mazzy stated "You can't have FPS with good graphics" and I gave her reasonings on why that's false, if you know what you're doing and have a team

[past wind]

Not always

[stray elm]

That's also ARK-1.
ARK-2 is a different game, on a different engine, with hopefully better coding

[past wind]

Look Microsoft Flight Simulator

300 people working on it

But won’t perform great because it’s a simulator

[past wind]

Still, Ark 2 will be a lot more complex than any AAA title

[stray elm]

I never said numbers, learn to read.
I said "if you have a team and know what you're doing"
They, in fact, did not know what they where doing apparently.

[past wind]

Asobo and MS know what they are doing

But there are constraints

WC will face a lot of them

[stray elm]

No shit.

Microsoft also doesn't develop games anymore, and they're mostly a publisher.

[past wind]

No… 😂

They are behind a lot of games…

Including flight simulator

[stray elm]

Like most publishers.
Doesn't mean they helped the coding of it.

"Microsoft Flight Simulator (colloquially known as Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020) is an amateur flight simulator developed by Asobo Studio and published by Xbox Game Studios."

[past wind]

Look, they have developers working on the games. They are not just publishing.

But not my point

My point is, by its nature, I wouldn’t count on Ark 2 performing like other AAA games

Unless it’s nothing like Ark 1

[stray elm]

And I wouldn't either.
But that wasn't mine, nor Mazzy's point.

[past wind]

Totally diferent building system and environment

[past wind]

I know you are talking about visuals vs performance. But in our case scenario, Ark can’t perform that great.

[stray elm]

ARK-1, correct.
We have no idea what their coding is for ARK-2, and its general performance.

[past wind]

Huge bases + a lot of tames and the cpu goes 🤮

[past wind]

It’s about complexity.

[stray elm]

ARK-2 could run as shit as ARK-1, or even worse.
Or, they could pull off the visuals seen in the trailer.
We'll have to wait till real gameplay comes out, and not pre-rendered cinematic trailers.

[past wind]

And if Ark will be less complex, I will be out anyway.

It’s the ark 1 complexity that I like.

[stray elm]

Well, ARK on launch was a lot less complex then it was now.
And it ran even worse.

Unreal-5 also has a LOT of features to increase performance.

Like Nanite.

From what I've heard, Nanite is fucking jacked and overpowered. (in the good way) for open-world projects.

[past wind]

I’m more curious to see how good it will use multi thread

[stray elm]

True

[past wind]

Which is one of the Ark’s issues

[stray elm]

They've already stated they're using 'everything' UE5 has

So, Nanite alone will help a LOT of the performance.

And they have I think 3 other things I don't remember that're for performance, that UE5 has.

[past wind]

That’s why I want to see a gameplay so bad. It will be possible to see mechanics + performance, at some extent

[stray elm]

Yep, same

So in 'THEORY' ARK-2 already sounds it'll run better then ARK-1.
But good technology can work shit if in the wrong hands.
So we'll see.

[past wind]

I’m hopeful, but still on the fence 😂

[stray elm]

Same

As people have said.
"Optimistically cautious"

[mellow wind]

The only way ark 2 could run better than ark1 is if the building restrictions and tame caps were reduced. At the end of the day ppl will always build bigger and have more tames till it gets too laggy (provided they have the freedom to have/build whatever)

[stray elm]

Eh, not entirely.
ARK-1 also runs on a hella outdated version of UE4, and a modified to shit version.
The shitty ass coding also doesn't help, and is just adding onto the issue.
If ARK-2 has a better, more smoother lines of coding while using all of the features UE5 has, then big builds and tames wont be much of an issue.

Cause again.
Nanite will deal with that.

[mellow wind]

True but there isn’t a sandbox game out that doesn’t have performance issues it’s just the way ppl are they’ll always build to the limits (especially when you get into larger tribes)

[stray elm]

Yep.
But also there's yet to be a massive sandbox game on UE5.

We'll see how good that engine is, since a lot of dev's are going to push it to its limits.

[deft saddle]

Isn't ark 2 going to have a prefab feature
If so then if the structure is just one big object then I think that would help with performance
Since it's being rendered as one big object rather than a bunch of smalls ones which i think would impact performance?

[mellow wind]

Depends on how that feature would work if it saves and places all the parts or the whole structure is 1 item which I kinda doubt because that would mean the entire structure would take damage regardless of where it’s hit which would kill any chance of defending it

[deft saddle]

Hmm
You have a point

[mellow wind]

Would end up being an unused or rarely used feature in pvp like large walls

[thick shoal]

I wonder when we will get more Ark 2 news.
Maybe at The GameAwards?

[worldly garden]

More likely at Extra Life.

[nocturne raptor]

I'm so excited to play ark2

I haven't been this hyped in so long lol

[stray elm]

Tone down that hype

We haven't even got gameplay.

[nocturne raptor]

Ik ik

[clever vortex]

Only be hyped about things that we know for certain, like how the raptors got a cool looking redesign or how vin diesel's head is vaguely egg shaped

[valid apex]

You should take a look at Satisfactory builds. Granted the massive mega factories certainly take a big frame drop. That game proves what UE4 is capable of in the right hands. And it’s still in EA.

[hallow wind]

how many people want ark 2 to be primitive based

how many people want ark 2 to be more dinosaur reliant

how many people want more ark to still have guns

[stray elm]

ARK is already creature reliant.

What?

[hallow wind]

it isnt that reliant

when u have shotguns

thats what i was told anyway

[stray elm]

It's pretty reliant when a shotgun can't harvest metal as well as a Stryder.

[stray elm]

Sure, a shotgun is good and all.
But what is a shotgun going to fucking do against a tamed pack of giga's with high saddles?

A shotgun is great.
But if we're talking about raw power, there's creatures out there that can take shotguns, like stego's or turtles.

Let's go through this.

[stray elm]

1: I like the idea of ARK-2 being more primitive based, but I wont enjoy it for the long-term if it's like that throughout it's 7+ year life.
What made ARK great to me is being able to advance through Ages.
So taking that away permanently, and not adding them via later updates or DLC's will kill the game for me.
2: We already talked about that.
3: Depending on how ARK-2 is going for it's long haul, I'd like to see different firearms from different Era's.
Like the pipe-gun that China first invented, to flintlocks, to semi-automatics.

[crude sedge]

Hi, whats happened with ARK 2 and when its comes out, anyone know that?

[stray elm]

Pins

[hallow wind]

i was afk lmao@stray elm

[stray elm]

[hallow wind]

i had a talk about ark 2 having guns and people said we dont need them

if we can rely on tamed creatures

so i had an idea

what if instead of engrams.

its a skilltree of engrams
but u can only choose 1 and not be able to switch

a builder skilltree
a weapon smith skilltree
a tamer skill tree
a survivalist skill tree

mean some stuff would go into a grey area like we should be able to build a campfire and a spear

but after that it should be advancing different aspecs

[stray elm]

Bruh.
You can just enter a new line of text, instead of making a wall.

[hallow wind]

everyone complains about walls.

im just suiting everyones needs :I

[stray elm]

Also, this is already confirmed.
We're getting 'knowledge points' and a skilltree

[hallow wind]

oh

im not up to date

[stray elm]

Read the pins

[hallow wind]

pins are for smart people

[stray elm]

Sorry it's locked off then.

[hallow wind]

understandable have a great day

[stray elm]

[hallow wind]

learns the entire paleological evolution time line of therapodimorphs

dang it still cant acess pins

[stray elm]

https://survivetheark.com/index.php?/articles.html/redefining-the-survival-genre-with-ark-2-and-an-update-from-our-studio-founders-r1949/

https:// store.steampowered.com/app/2050420/ARK_2/

Remove the space, and that's the steam-page link

[hallow wind]

wdym remove the space

also the wiki dont work too good on mobile

i'll look at it later

[stray elm]

The very, very, very, very, very clear space between the :// store.

[stray elm]

That's not the wiki

[hallow wind]

ah

[stray elm]

That's their official websites

[hallow wind]

oh lmao i thought u said wik- permanently unable to acess pins

[tropic crag]

Tf...

Ignorance is bliss, I guess. What a strange individual.

[hallow wind]

why thank u.

[tropic crag]

It's not being rendered as one big object though, think like the way prefabs/blueprints worked in Fallout 76, it's going to be like that. Only difference is you'll be able to place the outline and build the pieces individually as you go, akin to Grounded or The Forest.

[mortal kestrel]

Im excited for the feature personally

means I wont be seeing damn boxes everywhere I look

[tropic crag]

Yeah, unless a box is still the meta for some things lol

[untold ingot]

Maybe, we don't have details as of that yet as far as I am aware

[tropic crag]

Sure we do, it's right there on the store page

[untold ingot]

There will be some form of building blueprints, but how it will be implemented still hasn't been announced

[tropic crag]

"Survivors can set up and save their own preferred building templates, share them, and place prospective template layouts in the world to then build them out as a team."

Sounds pretty much exactly like Grounded and The Forest to me...

Minus the saving and sharing, I suppose

[untold ingot]

The basic idea yes, the actual implementation of it will probably be different

[tropic crag]

I highly doubt it, the way those games do it is sort of the standard for sandbox survival games now. The wording leaves little to the imagination, at least to me

[untold ingot]

Maybe, I haven't played them lol

[tropic crag]

You should then, lol

The Forest did it first, but Grounded took it and ran with it

At the very least maybe watch a video or two of someone just building out a structure in one or the other so you can get the base idea

[untold ingot]

I played scum a bit, and it has sort of the thing I expect to see, but I don't know if it is the same or not

I am still 8 days out from watching any videos 🤣

[tropic crag]

I never got Scum, but heard good things from a few buddies who did

[untold ingot]

It's a pvp only kind of thing, but it's fun

[tropic crag]

The only bad thing I've heard is there's cheaters which, like, no duh, every game has em lol. Let alone a game that has been out for 4 years in early access

[hallow wind]

whats more threatening, the dinos or the aliens on another planet

[tropic crag]

I'd hope the aliens

[hallow wind]

a symbiotic creature that lowers your health but increases your movement and stamina

lmao what the heck did i just create in my head

a reverse leech?

[untold ingot]

Swamp fever...

[hallow wind]

swamp fever dosent increase stam or movement?

[untold ingot]

It increases movement speed

[hallow wind]

i never knew that

[hallow wind]

does it increase movement speed to spread it easier on pvp?

[untold totem]

will they ever do it in ARK 2

[restive vine]

Hey guys I wish they would just hurry up & either put out a new trailer showing off more stuff or just finish what they have so far & do what they normally do cranking out fixes everyday. I have just got tired of ARK 1 right now I need something new.

[rustic oxide]

Mod

[lime forge]

Day 8 of not filling my troughs until we get more Ark 2 info.

Current death toll:
Giga-22
Parasaur-1
Velonosaur-7
Yuty-4

[split dove]

best bet for showcase is at extra life this year , start of november where they do reveals for dlc or content in general every year. i'd rather have a good playable game at early access launch than another battlefield 2042 launch, so i'd rather they take their time and don't rush it out this year

[restive vine]

@split dove I am just complaining because I am bored & lost all will to play ARK any more due to it getting very stale plus does not have its appeal any more.

[blissful perch]

That’s normal. A game shouldn’t provide infinite entertainment

[blissful perch]

Building off this, I think a lot of folks don’t know that releasing trailers/gameplay/the game locks in certain higher level design aspects because players develop concrete expectations

[untold ingot]

Well, at this point they should have high level design aspects locked down lol

[blissful perch]

They did when they released the steam page, but note how much later after the first reveal that happened

But imagine for example a rex in their alpha build works X way. They test it out and find out Y way is better. Without public expectations, the transition is smooth, and everyone wins. But if they market “the rex works like X!” they now have to justify moving to Y and likely will face criticism

[untold ingot]

As long as the Rex bites it's fine with me lol

[blissful perch]

You and I are not the general population. Embracing change is not a common trait

[untold ingot]

I guess that is true lol

[blissful perch]

You may observe as much when people come in here losing their minds about a change between ark 1 and 2

[split dove]

they still do sometimes

[hallow wind]

will ark 2 let me build overly complicated bases while breeding war machines?

[lime forge]

No. There won’t be any breeding because 3rd person only broke the souls like combat on building structures and the toilets clogged.

[hallow wind]

sorry what was the last part

did u try flushing it twice or is it stuck? idk what to do rn

[lime forge]

Just tryin to fit into the Ark 2 channel

Is it true that Ark 2 is only gonna be split screen even when you’re playing by yourself?

[hallow wind]

actually will ark2 be splitscreen..

[clever vortex]

It has splitscreen only when playing by yourself. That way you get to feel extra accomplished because it looks like you're taming two things at once, when in actuality it's just one.

[past wind]

Just saw Atlas will be updated to UE5. Interesting 🤔

Some kind of Ark 2 preview 😂

[barren oak]

WildCard should have spent the time to update ARK 1 to UE5 instead worrying about ARK 2!

I would love a Fresh Wiped Ark 1 on Unreal 5 rather then Ark 2.

[split dove]

updating ark 1 to UE5 would take much longer than making ark 2, atlas also doesn't have a massive spaghetti code like ark 1 iirc

[stray elm]

It does

It's literally is ark

[split dove]

i forgor

[stray elm]

You forgor

[split dove]

back to the topic at hand, updating ark 1 to UE5 would probably take far longer than making ark 2, with ark 2 you get new stuff and not a new Call of duty situation with the ark 1 upgrade

[stray elm]

Also ark 1 Is just not financially worth it

[split dove]

can't really revive a 7 year old game with a engine + graphics update

[tropic crag]

Not possible

[past wind]

I disagree. I want Ark 2. Unless they can do both, they better focus on Ark 2.

That said. I’m curious to see Atlas on UE5.

[stray elm]

Damn he a long typer

[split dove]

is it gonna be a quantum long rant? 🤨

[stray elm]

Spit it out already

[barren oak]

a fresh wipe on Unreal 5 would make a big difference

[barren oak]

multiple discords that are more important then this one

[stray elm]

Holy shit
6 minutes for that

[barren oak]

most of the cheating comes from being on Unreal 4.. upgrade and most of that will be gone.

[barren oak]

why would you think it's not?

[stray elm]

That's not true at all
It's ark shitty coding and anti cheat that's at fault

[barren oak]

ok, if that has nothing to do with the engine the game is built on, then the same crap with happen in Ark 2,

[tropic crag]

I don't think it, I know it. The code would have to be entirely remade, because the chance to port it to a newer version of UE4 (and furthermore, a compatible with UE5 version of UE4) has come and gone

[stray elm]

Not if they switched the anti cheat software, and actually code the game with non spaghetti coding

[barren oak]

ok then wouldn't it make sense to upgrade ARK 1 to unreal 5 and work on anti cheats then just go and put another game out with the same issues?

[past wind]

Not necessarily… Ark 2 will have new mechanics. Unless they are as exploitable as the ones of the first game, Ark 2 might be safer.

[stray elm]

Nope. Cause ark 1 doesn't make much money anymore

[barren oak]

the coding you refer to is because most of what the game does wasn't done before and unreal 4 had no real support for it, but with unreal 5 there is. So again, would have been better for Wildcard to take a fresh approach to ARK 1 with Unreal 5 before progressing to Ark 2. Would have giving others that gave up on Wildcard more faith in the company

[barren oak]

that's a laugh

[vale adder]

Cant wait for ark 2 to come out and lootboxes get added

[tropic crag]

You clearly didn't read what I said

[vale adder]

Being able to pay $20 for a dodo skin for my character and $10 for a pair of blue climbing picks sounds about right

[tropic crag]

Ark 1 is built on a deprecated version of UE4, they couldn't port it to UE5 if they wanted to. The chance was there waaaaay back when to move it to a better (UE5 compatible) version of UE4, but it was too much work for them then being an indie dev, so they couldn't

[barren oak]

clearly you don't know how ark 1 is coded, they have been upgrading it to unreal 4.5xx along the way and can be converted over to unreal 5. Unreal 5 even offers support for this. Not saying it will be quick and we don't want it to be quick, but it can be done and it should have been done

[ripe cedar]

i bet the ark devs love looking in this chat with 50% of the messages being your game is made poorly

I mean yeah you kinda have to not care or be able to avoid comments like that to be a game dev

[tropic crag]

Except for the fact that they're still operating the majority of the codebase on an experimental branch of UE4, as stated. But go off, I guess lmao

We all know PvP is full of cheaters, but if you want to blame WIldcard for that then you should look in the mirror, I think you'll see a familiar type of makeup...

[barren oak]

and this is why more and more PVP players wont be going to ARK 2.

[tropic crag]

For people cheating? Yeah, that's totally Wildcard's fault, players deciding to cheat 🤣

You're clowns

[barren oak]

no sense to this statement, I don't work for them, I don't make my living coding a game and I don't take someone's money for a product that don't work correctly..

they actually can be IF you have the numbers for it.. tribe under 20 active .. not so much

[tropic crag]

You should look at what Bird has said in the past, talk about troll lmao

No, I was there. But ok lmao

Yes, I own my own cluster, official is ass lol

Used to play on (and alpha) The Center 805, before they screwed over us legacy players

Like I'd tell you LMAO

I wouldn't tell anyone here, to be fair. You know how stupid of me that'd be?

Both

Sure, if I wanted a bunch of random, unvetted people joining, yeah

[viscid sphinx]

On this note, and it's already been said, but we don't know what ark 2 pvp is gonna look like yet

So I wouldn't immediately rule out people not playing pvp on ark 2

[tropic crag]

I'd be fine with it, get em outta here, official PvP is just cheaters and toxics anyways...

As everyone has already stated

Not mine, and that's a gross generalization, but ok 🤪

[barren oak]

Personally I don't like the fact that the game itself is ONLY 3'rd person! Takes too much out of the game not being able to have the choice of 1st or 3rd and I use them both all the time in Ark 1.
Further more, the "SOULS" like combat with auto lock targeting, combo moves, etc.. not my style and not of a lot of peoples style..

It's like they are taking Elder scrolls on line and adding in an Ark theme.. lol

[tropic crag]

Is it false? Official is full of cheaters, you said it yourself? Lol

[barren oak]

in denial much lol

[tropic crag]

Y'all are clowns, jfc

Bye bye now

[barren oak]

and you're the biggest BOZO of them all

[tropic crag]

Get blocked

[barren oak]

d i l l i g a f

truth hurts?

wants to talk all that smack then cry when someone don't agree with him

[viscid sphinx]

I can see the point about souls combat effecting pvp negatively, and I can see how that would make people wanna not do pvp. But I have two things to say:

1: 3rd person only is one of those things that, while it seems bad at first, is just something you need to get used to. I used to hate doing anything in 3rd person in ark 1 but after using it a little I play 3rd person more than 1st person since it's more convenient to me. And while that same thing won't happen with everyone, I think that same type of process will happen with a lot more people who play the game.

2: Repeating my initial statement, we don't know how the game will be yet. This includes souls-like pvp. For all we know it could have extremely dynamic and fun pvp that's almost universally enjoyed. At the same time, it could be absolutely awful. But assuming automatically that it's going to negatively effect pvp isn't something I'd ride on for judging the game until after we see gameplay since the game could have some good ways to make souls-like pvp fun that other souls-like multiplayer games haven't done.

Still though there will be people who leave because of these two things, but saying it's the reason for people not buying the game before the game's even out just seems a little pessimistic to me.

[barren oak]

Most of the OG PvP players agree that Tek tier ruined the game and what they miss the most is the early game pvp. This is one of the reasons Arkpoc is popular and if they had more wipe options to that mode it would be where most players would be.
With the new hand to hand combat forcing you in 3 person and having to count on combos we lose what we love the most.

Putting the 3rd person and the new hand 2 hand to the side, people are looking at Wildcards track record. It sucks and people don't have faith in them produce Ark 2 any better then Ark 1. Most think, why should I invest in another game when the current game still needs work. They can talk up Ark 2 all they want but they did a lot of "talking" with Ark 1 and they just don't follow through with what they say.

Most of the people that are hyped for Ark 2 are the PvE and roll-play players of the game and sadly that seems to be who wildcard is catering to

[tropic crag]

That is the majority of the playerbase, makes sense...

[barren oak]

Ark 1 go still go strong for years to go if Wildcard would:

Remaster it on unreal 5

Implement better anti cheats and console id / motherboard id band players that cheat so they can't just game share to another account

Spit the Official servers in to groups, Launch one set of servers wait 1 year and launch the 2nd set, Have a wipe cycle every 2 years alternating server set 1 and server set 2 so every year a set wipes

[viscid sphinx]

The point about wildcard's track record I can agree with, as well as the fact that it seems like wildcard is mostly catering to pve instead of pvp. But the pvp in ark 2 is going to be different. which doesn't inherently mean worse. You also said that having to count on combos will make pvp worse, but we don't know yet that you will have to count on combos. We don't even know if combos are with players or only with pve fights. Something that I feel should be said though is that it seems like a lot is changing gameplay wise between ark 1 and 2, which is inevitably going to include pvp. And there's no reason to think yet (other than wildcard's track record) that the pvp in ark 2 is going to be worse than ark 1.

[barren oak]

You still talking, i thought you blocked me and went bye bye
It may be the majority NOW but not before.. Ark lost so much pvp players to the issues Wildcard hasn't addressed fully.

[narrow spindle]

Amen most of the pvp community would prefer that over a conan exiles clone game with dinosaurs

Aka ark 2

[barren oak]

They have actually stating that the combat is within pvp and that the Light / Heavy attack combos will be relevant, then adding in the 'auto-targeting", anyone on a bloodstalker knows how well that works at the moment.. just imagine having to press a button to change your target instead of having to look in that direction..

Wildcards track record is the most important factor when it comes to ARK 2, here's why:
They were a newly formed company but not lacking experience with creating games as most Devs all worked together a another studio before they left to come to Wildcard.
They are creating a new game on a NEW engine as unreal 5 is much different then unreal 4.
They should have converted Ark 1 to unreal 5 before even creating Ark 2 (which they started creating on unreal 4). If they would have taken the time to convert Ark 1's Engine, they would have:

1 Gained much need experience using unreal 5 (hence why ARK 2 has been delayed)
2 Prove to the community that they care about the state of Ark 1

[barren oak]

Yes, What made Ark 1 great was that it was different then any other survival games out there.. Now with the changes they are making with Ark 2 the only thing that makes it stand out from all the rest is because it has Dinos.. I will go play jurassic Park before Ark 2

[lime forge]

TLDR

[viscid sphinx]

I have no disagreements with you about wildcard's track record. The company not being great is definitely the most important factor when it comes to the game's expected quality. The problem though is coming from the fact that we're judging a game before we've seen anything about it. That's the point I'm trying to make. There's no reason to think that the game will immediately have terrible pvp because the game doesn't exist yet. If you think it will have terrible pvp it's because your expectation is that it has terrible pvp, and your expectation for how the game will function is what you're basing your argument on. You can't say the game or pvp is bad yet because until we have insight onto what the game actually looks and feels like, there's no reason to think in any one way about it besides what we've already seen. And what we've already seen, in my opinion at least, isn't a very good judge to what the game will actually be like when we do see it. From what I can tell (mind you I may be wrong about this since this is assuming other's opinions) most people who dislike the game think it's going to be conan exiles with dinosaurs, and most people who like the game think it's going to be a sandbox monster hunter. Neither of these statements are true because until we have at least footage of the game, everyone is judging the game by the way they imagine it to be like in their heads, which is a null factor in an argument like this since neither of us are imagining it the same way.

[lime forge]

Wtldr

[viscid sphinx]

If you're judging ark 2, you're judging your idea of the game. Not the game

[lime forge]

I’m not judging anything lol

I’m definitely not reading that book

[viscid sphinx]

You = whoever is judging the game, not anyone in particular

[lime forge]

Do you think there’s gonna be toilets in Ark 2?

[barren oak]

I'm not just judging the game Ark 2, I'm judging Wildcards track record and they style gameplay they are making it. I have played 3rd person games with the style and it's not for me which is why I like the game play on Ark 1.

[viscid sphinx]

That makes sense, I had the wrong context to your arguments then. In that case I agree

[untold ingot]

I mean if by track record you mean a game with a huge consistent player base, I agree lol. As a pvp player myself I get the feeling of your arguments, but honestly, with basically everything but some tickets wildcard really does have a fantastic track record for fixing most issues and adding new and fun content.

The current trend seems like it is leaning towards pve, I haven't personally heard anything about pvp yet other than it will have it. But I think it is too early to judge what the game will be like as of yet

[rare heart]

Im HOPING they did learn from their mistakes

From what little info there is the game sounds like a caveman darksouls tho

X zauger explains it better

[untold ingot]

No idea who thst is lol.

[rare heart]

Yewtube it

Id post his take but i cant

Just sums up all the info and how logically this SHOULD be a better game than ark 1

But obviously not guranteed

because…. I mean who makes good games anymore

[untold ingot]

I mean, I do that myself just by reading the announcements they have made on it lol

I don't really need a YouTuber to tell me what I already know 😂

[lime forge]

We can’t all make our own decisions and think for ourselves

[barren oak]

I'm sorry but I disagree. Wildcard has a horable track record for fixing game braking issues and when they do it took them so long that major damage has been done.

[rare heart]

Well im lazy so i do 😎

Im hoping theyve learned but i mean

Game companies are just mega doo doo in this day and age

[blissful perch]

WC shouldn’t have released MMO style PvP in a game that they scope crept and released content extremely quickly for. Couldn’t agree more that it was too big a task for the team to keep up with

PvP should have been an unofficial only option once it was clear that cheating and CoC violations couldn’t be kept up with on their budget

[ocean tendon]

[barren oak]

I can agree to this statement to a point. To me, Wildcard has failed and continues to fail as a company to protect their content and the players content by not reacting in the simplest ways until they can address a problem with the proper approach!

The fact that Wildcard lets issues continue to run wild as they "work" on a fix is just horrible!
The community has asked wildcard multiple times to suspend items/dinos that cheaters use until they can work out a proper fix but they refuse to and weeks go by before a patch comes out.
Even now there is still meshing and in one of the ways people mesh. the Rockdrake is a key dino used, one of the only thing a rockdrake is used for now a days as the mesh detection ignores it. Why not suspend the use of the dino or at the very least the tek saddle for it until they can fix it properly..
There's countless examples like this one that has one lose faith in a company like wildcard and anything they say, do or produce.

[civic jacinth]

Why isnt Mesh fixed.

🙂

[narrow spindle]

Yes and no theres still pretty bad game breaking exploits that i know have been reported still yet to be fixxed godmoding on gen 2 the recent windows 10 being able to play on console only servers still isnt totally fixxed

Could also mention scorched earth on launch only now is being finished quote on quote like 6 years later

[barren oak]

Why would someone invest their time and money an another wildcard product just because it's "new" when their 1st product is still in an unstable state.
With them having to learn how to use unreal 5 while creating a "new" game and with their track record, I would assume the "new" game will be just as buggy as Ark 1 was.
This is why they should have remastered Ark 1, updating it to unreal 5 before for working on Ark 2. This would give them experience with Unreal 5 and the chance to work out any issues that may have arises while making Ark 2.

[narrow spindle]

Id honestly prefer 2016 dupe wars over having to fight people with esp and aimbot

[untold ingot]

Lets move the topic back to ark2. For ark1 related topics #ark-survival-ascended is the preferred channel

[narrow spindle]

I agree

Honestly it reminds me of bethseda and fallout 76 with all the shitty things they did to people

[civic jacinth]

Kind of an all encompassed conversation tbh.

Ark2 +Ark1 shit mesh, botters, esp. etc etc

[barren oak]

They never intended to have an "Ascension" to S.E., so it was finished but the community kept asking for it and I believe the ascension for S.E. was a mod created by the community but don't quote me on that.

[civic jacinth]

But ya knooooooow. Ark 2 will be great yay.

[narrow spindle]

Doubt it honestly i dont got faith in wildcard ark in 2022 has been the worst state the games ever been in

[civic jacinth]

It was heavy sarcasm.

[barren oak]

this is all about Ark 2 lol

[narrow spindle]

From software guys who make the darksouls titles

[wispy sierra]

I do have hopes for ark 2. Wildcard has WAY more experience with development now, plus they’re doing it on a much better engine

[lunar citrus]

As Ark got older and new maps came out shit got a lot better

The fact they have the spaghetti code mess of the old game to build on top of is not super their fault

[narrow spindle]

Honestly i hope ark 2 isnt just another rushed crappy broken game banking on them knowing people will buy it even if its a broken piece of shit cause Investors higher up want money

[lunar citrus]

I play City of Heroes, I'm very familiar with how much of a mess spaghetti code makes future development

Ark 2 is a fresh slate, and they know what they're doing now

[wispy sierra]

Yeah, ark 1’s main problem is them not fixing the underlying spaghetti code and just piling more and more stuff onto it

[lunar citrus]

I mean, you can't really keep a playerbase by not introducing new content

[narrow spindle]

Well that and the exploit community being mad with finding exploits literally to the point of making money on it

Which not enough people talk about ^

[wispy sierra]

Of course. I’m not saying they shouldn’t have added new content, just that they should have fixed the code while they still could

[wispy sierra]

I actually did not fully know about this

[narrow spindle]

I cant fully talk about in here due to wildcards rules i mean cough cough censorship

[wispy sierra]

I am hoping that ark 2 will be much better. I am still cautious tho

[jaunty nexus]

I believe it would be better to go into things with a positive mindset because if you go into things feeling negative it’ll make you focus on the bad over the good

[narrow spindle]

I agree to a point idk i still dont think ark 2 will be perfect week 1 tho

[jaunty nexus]

Of course not week one

The game will be like any game that’s multiplayer and take time to really feel “good”

[tropic crag]

If you expect any game to be perfect week one in this day and age, I'm just gonna say get ready for disappointment ahead of time

[narrow spindle]

Hopefully they also block the code allowing people to spoof packets to basically play on pc while on console servers otherwise the game will be a shitshow

[tropic crag]

Ad you have no one to blame but yourself for unreasonable expectations

[narrow spindle]

Cause cloudsharing sucks

[tropic crag]

That I can agree with, cloud gaming is ass

If that's what you mean

[narrow spindle]

Honestly i dont think they should have windows 10 and console gamers on the same servers ngl

Like they did for the first game

[jaunty nexus]

I don’t believe ARK should have cross play

[tropic crag]

Agreed

For PvP at least

[narrow spindle]

Tbh console and console crossplay is fine just when you introduce pc crossplay it becomes very unfun for console gamers

Speaking from experance

[tropic crag]

No, all crossplay is bad, also speaking from experience

It can't be done right yet, so just don't do it

[jaunty nexus]

Yeah it’s not a very solid foundation at this time

[untold ingot]

I am personally excited for the cross play, I have friends I can't play with because there is no crossplay

[lavish rain]

Hey

[jaunty nexus]

ARK 2 has a high potential ceiling since they know what went wrong with ARK itself and can prevent it

[lavish rain]

From what we've heard I don't like how it sounds

But who knows it could be the next citizen Kane

[blissful perch]

Like I said, ark has not been able to fix the issues needed for PvP to be a serious real gamemode

[jaunty nexus]

I’m not big on some of the changes, but I will give it a chance because you never know what you’ll like

[narrow spindle]

I mean unless they can make battleeye harder to bypass its ultimately a bad thing

[blissful perch]

It’s a meme show of CoC violations and cheating

[narrow spindle]

Literally ^

[blissful perch]

Ark 2 should own up to that weakness and not offer official PvP

[jaunty nexus]

Enforcement is ARK’s biggest downfall

[untold ingot]

Hmm, I don't know how I feel about that

[tropic crag]

Easily

[blissful perch]

If they spent the appropriate effort and budget to fix PvP, that’s the other option as I see it

[narrow spindle]

Nah keep it i like the transfer pvp system makes things spicy

[jaunty nexus]

They patch things often and are always working to fix exploits, but the enforcement team isn’t keeping up with the workload and that can be attributed to how many tickets are made everyday and how big the market for exploits is on ARK

[tropic crag]

Just not offer official servers period, honestly

[untold ingot]

I definitely do agree with everyone that the enforcement/anticheat needs a lot of work, but getting rid of pvp entirely would get rid of a huge part of what makes ark good

[narrow spindle]

For once i agree with you

[blissful perch]

If they aren’t gonna put in the effort for anti cheat and enforcement, don’t offer the gamemode that relies on it

Insanely simple take

[untold ingot]

I feel like that would be really bad lol. Not everyone can afford to host their own unofficial

[jaunty nexus]

I believe Unofficial PvP servers will forever be better than official simply because of on-demand moderation

[untold ingot]

Simple, but not preferable

[jaunty nexus]

They don’t need as many servers as they have. There are thousands of servers that have 0 population 90% of a day

[tropic crag]

But those that do have plenty of slots for those who do not, it's literally a win-win lol

[untold ingot]

I have rarely found a good unofficial that has a track record of being stable lol

[jaunty nexus]

They always release way too many Servers to be honest

[tropic crag]

We didn't say get rid of PvP, just official for the record. No reason it couldn't still be a gamemode

[untold ingot]

Getting rid of official pvp is the issue I have lol

[narrow spindle]

Yes and no if you have fought in the 50v50 battles on ark offical with 2 tribes fighting it out legit without exploiting its probably some of the best fun you can have honestly besides maybe the lag spikes when a turret tower or something gets droped

[untold ingot]

It doesn't seem like a good move to me

[tropic crag]

Just play unofficial PvP, ez

[untold ingot]

Honestly, most unofficial pvp is kind of trash though, and the ones that aren't don't have huge player bases anymore

[jaunty nexus]

I believe if the official PvP cluster was treated with the same priority as the conquest servers, the game would be fantastic

[tropic crag]

Then you have been very unlucky

[untold ingot]

I mean, I play on some of the most popular supported unofficials

[narrow spindle]

Nah hes right alot of em kinda suck

[tropic crag]

Again, you must've been unlucky then, I have played on many unofficials with great PvP

[untold ingot]

I have never played conquest so I don't know

[jaunty nexus]

They have an active enforcement staff you report to directly

[untold ingot]

I like the sound of that

[jaunty nexus]

Cheating is pretty much non existent in conquest

RMT is another thing they can’t afford to let plague ARK 2

[blazing mango]

i do hope the devs make the power mechanic more ...likeable

i hated the whole electrical wire thing

maybe just add batteries and do solar or eco friendly ways of generating electricity

or cage bulbdogs

nah ,bulbdogs are to cute

[jaunty nexus]

An otter powered generator

[blazing mango]

oh thats nice

allow us tame or imprison other players or npcs and make them power a wheel generator 🤣

[lavish rain]

Otter abuse

[blazing mango]

Muahahaha

[untold ingot]

Yeeeeeeesss

I did like castles and keeps implementing wind mills etc. But that is just because i don't want to see electricity lol

[lunar citrus]

I think the wiring system needs to either be made better (IE: not just another irrigation system but for your house) or just scrapped entirely

plop a generator down somewhere and be done with it

[hallow wind]

or make all electrical appliances have actual powerpoints

[past wind]

I'm not sure there will be electricity on the base game

It's said to be primitive

we need more info

[hallow wind]

i still want some what of an advanced gun and not just some flintlock pistol, whats that gonna do to a raptor running at 40mph?

if ark 2 is going into solid skilltree's it should branch off between tamer, weaponsmith, builder and survivor.

Tamer: being engrams for advanced saddles and unlock tames that others cant acquire like a unique way to tame an alien creature or breed creatures in general.
Weapon smith: being able to craft ammunition and weapons as well as metal working and armour.
Builder: just... having the ability to build... extra stuff or advanced stuff?
Survivor; being able to increase your oxygen, stamina, melee dmg and move speed. as well as maybe crafting leaf wrap bandages and a way to mask your scent.

just my thoughts on what the ark 2 engrams should be like, call me names or whatever. its my opinion dont take it to heart :I

[lunar citrus]

I really, really, really hope that "primitive" is just the early game

I've said it before but my favorite part of ark is progressing from banging rocks against trees to using sci fi tech to fight titanic monsters

if the whole game stays primitive that's a huge chunk of ark's identity and what appeals me to it just gone

[willow finch]

i desperately hope ark 2 doesnt have skill trees

i also hope its not all prim, i love my indy teir

[tropic crag]

Well it isn't going to be all primitive, they've only stated "primarily primitive", so that's good

[willow finch]

still

[past wind]

I don’t know, but makes no sense to say “primitive combat” then making electricity/electronics available.

I mean, having electricity but no advanced weapons would be odd

[tropic crag]

Sure it does, just don't include any electricity based weaponry lol

[lime forge]

Flintlock pistols shot .52 caliber bullets that weighed a half ounce. That little dinky ass raptor is gonna drop like a sack of potatoes.

[willow finch]

yea 2 shots from a prim pistol and a 150 raptor is murked

[past wind]

Well everything is a mystery for know. They can drive the lore on the direction they want, but wouldn’t make sense to limit weapons to crossbows and having electricity, fabricator, industrial forge etc

By crossbows I mean primitive weapons in general

[lime forge]

I doubt we’re gonna see fabricator or Indy forge

[willow finch]

😭

[past wind]

Me too

[rare heart]

Isnt it supposed to be mostly primitive tho?

[past wind]

Anything above stone I think will be gone

[willow finch]

as long as there is some sort of indy tier its fine i guess

[rare heart]

Would rather have primitive only than stupid dumb dumb modern aged stuff

[past wind]

At least on day one

[rare heart]

I dont think the building/items will be anything like current ark

[lime forge]

My personal guess is it’s gonna go up to 13th-14th century technology but with more tribal motifs

[hallow wind]

did u not read the bottom and see that i said dont take it to heart

[willow finch]

maybe

[lime forge]

I didn’t take any thing to heart. I answered the question you asked.

[past wind]

I know people say Ark and Atlas have different devs, but they have the same origin. Look what Atlas is bringing to the table and we might have an idea what will come to Ark 2

They have a lot of pre-made buildings

Ark 2 will have some kind of pre-made buildings

You will be able to upload the blueprints of you own buildings

I’m interested to see how they will deal with the building system

[willow finch]

what maps does legacy pvp have?

[past wind]

Legacy is gone

[willow finch]

aint there a legacy pvp option ?

[mighty lion]

Define legacy. Most of us refer to legacy as the servers with that title discontinued a few years back.

[willow finch]

aight

never played it so idk

[mighty lion]

They had all the maps up to extinction though

[willow finch]

alright thx

just curious

[rare heart]

Im not imagining anything like ark one

Ark and atlas building are so ass…. If they have learned anything hoping the majority of the building systems are nothing like how they are now

they actually have the time, resources, and team to actually made a good game.

Unlike what they had for ark 1

[hallow wind]

[lime forge]

[sleek grotto]

ark 2 is gonna be better than ark 1

[pulsar sparrow]

Well, we'll see then whether the ARK 2 do much better than ARK 1 or just shit completely and everything will be shit

[iron sequoia]

Cautious optimism is best

[winged dome]

On paper, most of the changes seem good in my book, but hoping gameplay or more info soon

[blazing mango]

i will miss tek stuff

i hope we get modding tools early too

so we can add new stuff

like a damaged tek suit 😎

with leather holsters with daggers and arrows and stuff

and by gods i hope we get some nice 3rd person animations

im willing to forgive everything except that

[winged dome]

Part of me will miss Tek, mostly for the aesthetic of smooth builds and sleek design. QoL might be introduced in a more organic way in Ark2, so not too fussed about that

[rose lotus]

ark 2 should be good

[past wind]

At the beginning I will not miss tek. There will be a lot of new stuff to discover/learn. But at some point I will want QoL Tech.

[mighty lion]

49 days until extralife

[split dove]

i was wondering when you'd bring that up again

[final salmon]

They said at pax that tek will be back but “scary”

[split dove]

i admit, it was a dumb message.

[past wind]

like magic

so like pretty much everything, we don't know 😂

[stray elm]

They more described it as a Lovecraftian horror shit, then magic I'd say.

[past wind]

not sure if tek will be an enviromental thing or craftable items

magic tek can be just "obelisks"

or "terminals"

[stray elm]

Well, seeing how they said "no tek for ARK-2" they either went back on their word, or it's just environmental.

[past wind]

still unclear

[stray elm]

Most likely the latter

[past wind]

well, wouldn't be the first time they went back on something 😂

[stray elm]

No shit.
But seeing how the 'No-Tek' was emphasized in that CC. I'm betting they just meant tekgrams and such.
Environmental Tek has always been in the game since day-one.

Hell, the debree of the ship in the background of the last ARK-2 trailer could've be classified as 'tek'
Since it was a 'tek' based ship.

[past wind]

we are on the same boat, my friend. I'm just saying I'm not sure because there are no official details on that

Jeremy wasn't clear at the PAX stream

[stray elm]

Jeremy wasn't anything but talking about random shit all of PAX.

He kept Gareth waiting for like 10 minutes

[past wind]

and that's the issue. We have make lots of conjectures.

I better wait and only comment on official statements

people are a little harsh here

[stray elm]

'A little'

Birdwoman: "Allow me to introduce myself"

[blissful perch]

Tek in ark 1 is seen as a beneficial series of tools and QoL for players. It’s the apex of conquering the arks

In ark 2, tek will likely appear less benign or beneficial and may instead be the harbinger of something dangerous and uncontrollable

[stray elm]

Sooooooo......like it's always been about since Aberration

[blissful perch]

Extinction has placed element, not tek, as the villain

All the tek in extinction actually promotes life and is helpful (all the domes, the tek sanctuary, etc)

[stray elm]

I don't see how Tek can be a physical villain, when the element within tek doesn't infect anymore.

[stray elm]

They also produce element spores to consume fuel. Both giving life 'and' death

[blissful perch]

You’re conflating lore with actual ingame appearances

There’s no indication in the actual gameplay or environment that indicates there’s anything sinister about tek

Beyond ofc the element going out of control and breaking it

[stray elm]

Anything to do with villains, and talking about how tek promotes life 'IS' lore related
Cause if we're going gameplay, tek is an abomination that survivors can harness and just cause destruction.

[untold ingot]

That is only for earth though

[blissful perch]

All the villains are explicitly linked to element, not tek

[stray elm]

Why does the planet matter?

[blissful perch]

Tek is “good element” and raw element sludge is “bad element”

[stray elm]

That's....not at all how that works

[blissful perch]

From what can be seen and interacted with ingame, that’s how it works

[stray elm]

Tek isn't even alive.
What you mean by 'good' element is the blue element that has evolved alongside creatures

[untold ingot]

Well, because it only gets fixed on earth, so the problem could be extinctionesque on arat

[untold ingot]

Uh, yes tek is alive lol, sort of

[blissful perch]

All player made tek is also blue is it not?

[stray elm]

That's not what I meant, Raq

[untold ingot]

Ah

[stray elm]

Until you dye it.

You can't dye a Gacha's blue stomach.
It's an undyable region

[blissful perch]

If I threw a totally new to ark person onto ark (I’ll be generous and say Ab) and asked “is tek evil” I’m betting most would say “no, element is evil”

[untold ingot]

I said this and realized it sounds dumb. Element is alive, not tek😂

[stray elm]

Right. Tek is just structures made by element.
It's like using a corpse to create buildings

[stray elm]

Right, sure. I get that.
But if you're going to talk about environmental stuff with story applications, then you also have to take into consideration the lore.
Obviously tek itself seems 'big bad' in the game-world itself.
But stating that as fact, is flat out wrong. If you get what I'm saying.

[blissful perch]

You’re the definition of “we do a little bit of trolling around here”

[blissful perch]

I by no means need to take into account the lore that must be tracked down and sought after in hidden locations 😂. If ark 2 has missions with lore now that’s an acceptable reason

[deft saddle]

makes a city from dead alien matter
Weakest ark human

[untold ingot]

I am still betting the final boss on arat is element again though

[blissful perch]

Element takes the form of the average ark gamer. And the community riots, enraged at what they see in the mirror

[untold ingot]

Lol, people would team up with it

[blissful perch]

It’s a little bit of trolling, idk what’s wrong with me pointing that out. You know how easy it is to bait people and you do so in ways I can’t assume are accidental lol

It’s mostly funny

[stray elm]

I wouldn't say Birdwoman is trolling.
I'd say they're more of the mindset of "I don't give a shit what you think of me. I'll say what I want."

[blissful perch]

Admittedly being honest is enough to bait some people here

[stray elm]

Though, that's not trolling.
That's just called "don't take the bait"

[untold ingot]

Someone with words exists, ark2 chat gets peeved 🤣

[blissful perch]

LOL, am I wrong tho

[stray elm]

No, you're not.
But that's more or less on the person for getting angry. Not theirs for being honest.

[blissful perch]

Although tbh I’ve come in with some crispy takes and folks haven’t taken the bait as hard as when birdwoman types “wtf are you talking about land bases are viable, stop being a bob”

[stray elm]

They are though, if you know what you're doing.

[untold ingot]

To be fair, birdwoman is like the only pvp player that comes here and doesn't only talk about third person or complains about pve that actually knows what they are talking about

[blissful perch]

Rip GoldFrieza

[untold ingot]

I haven't seen them around much lately lol

[blissful perch]

I’ve found birdwoman’s input invaluable. It’s just insanely blunt to the point of almost appearing bait like to me 🤷‍♂️. But I’m not a mod and idc either way lol

[stray elm]

What happened to Gold?

[blissful perch]

He commented today so he’s clearly around

[stray elm]

@mighty lion Get your ass in here

[mighty lion]

I'll be here tonight

[lavish rain]

That's me

[lavish rain]

Again that's also me

[lunar citrus]

/late element is the same thing in all forms, it's equally good/evil regardless of if it's processed or not

Tek isn't inherently evil, it's just technology that uses element for power

Element in small amounts isn't bad unless you're eating/huffing it. It's when it starts spreading and seeping into everything that it becomes a world-killing problem

[stray elm]

Right, we know this.

Shifter's point was something a bit different.

[untold ingot]

I mean it's called a xenotoxin... It's no more or less evil than covid, but it's still not great to have around 😂

[lunar citrus]

I mean, once element got all big and corrupty it did also become actively intelligent and malicious so it's not just a natural disaster anymore

[rough scaffold]

Considering they don’t believe things in the wiki and that “the devs don’t talk to the community”, I find it hard to believe they aren’t trolling, at least some of the time

[static scroll]

I would like Ark2 to add a dino rank up system like in rts games. Damage done, kills and damage taken is tracked ranking up a dino when an X amount is reached. Not only would it be cool to see how many kills your rex has gotten or how much damage your stego has soaked but ranking up your dino will also modify your dino's appearance like battle scars, larger horns etc. Taking 3star dinos to battle will be a flex but will also hurt more if they die.

[blissful perch]

Miss me with that Jurassic world take on dinosaurs

I’m fine with tracking player stats though, but I don’t want weird mutilated dinosaurs as though that makes them “better”

[stray elm]

Mutilated dinosaurs?

We talking about deformations, or literal gore?

I wouldn't mind gore. But it seems like the steam page describes the gore-level to be basically ARK-1 level of blood, but maybe more realistic.

[blissful perch]

No, I’m talking about slapping triceratops horns on a Trex because “it’s cool”

[static scroll]

Lol way to take it to the extreme. I was thinking more like a few noticeable scars on a rex just to know it's been through a few raids.

[blissful perch]

You’d have to make tames not expendable. Is that something you’d want in PvP?

[static scroll]

So it would kill pvp? Tames are expendable. And having the same giga last a few raids takes either skill or cowardice. A ranked up giga will show skill. That's a flex

[blissful perch]

I didn’t say anything about killing PvP. But if you want WC to put in the effort to add scars etc and want players to protect their tames to rank them up…it implies you want to deviate from the PvP norm of tames being expendable

I’m fine with it, especially if you want to use that system rather than just waiting to raise a tame, but I figured i should mention that it’s not a consequence free change

But many people aren’t aware of that

[static scroll]

It just adds another variable to the mix. Also look at it this way. If I see someone on a ranked up tame they've had for a while, ima aim for that one first

[blissful perch]

Which is exactly why it’s not that interesting to add lol

True, but you also may benefit from having tames 99% of the way to the next visual rank just to fool people visually 😂

[static scroll]

Rank doesnt do anything but let you know it's been alive for a while. To me it will be more of a win if I kill it.

[blissful perch]

It’s also more of a loss if someone loses it. So they won’t take any risks with it

[static scroll]

That's on them

[blissful perch]

They’ll just only use it for offline raids XD

[static scroll]

Haha that's how it is most of the time anyways. Either that or inside then fob up

old pic

I missed it all so idk.

Sadly its usually how it goes.

[mighty lion]

Tbh I'd imagine alot of people turning off scaring if it was a thing

[static scroll]

Probably so. I just want a 1 eyed 79 giga named scar clapping cheeks

[mighty lion]

Now I'm down for cosmetic blue prints. So you could add that look to like 50 gigas at once

[stray elm]

Friendly reminder: If anyone still thinks the Aratai are 'too' humanoid for a alien species. Remember, that it's not impossible, especially if the planet is already pretty Earth-like.
Also, if you think they're a lazy design. Just remember that a species evolved and adapt 'exactly' as humans did on Earth, while being on a alien planet called 'Sera' in Gears-of-War.

[ocean tendon]

The humanoid form is the superior body type in the universe

[willow finch]

bobs proven that already

[hallow wind]

imagine in ark they rework creatures so if u damage its leg it limps, and if you shoot its eye it can only see in 1 direction

[tropic crag]

They kinda hinted at that in the store page lol, but maybe not to that extent

[trim quest]

Two things, 1 I have a sneaking suspicion the Aratai are something Rockwell made, 2 major spoilers for deep gears lore but ||locust are a conglomeration of genetic material from the creatures of the Hollow and human dna, they’re literally just genetically altered humans||

But yeah the Aratai as aliens is weird because they’re literally just the standard evil humanoid aliens

Convergent evolution is possible but for an alien to look like a big hulking dude with quills is going to be extremely rare to the point that you’d probably have to look through entire galaxies to find anything that similar to humans

That being said I kinda hope we can play as the Aratai even if it’s through modding

Quill orc go brrrrrr

[rare heart]

Brutes from halo!

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Those kind of? Brutes are more like elephant bear gorillas, they’re still humanoid in appearance though so it kinda counts.

[hallow wind]

Exactly!

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My theory on what the Aratai are is that they’re corrupted humans/evolved Nameless that Rockwell had kept hidden until the escape pods were sent down to Arat prime. They were sent down with the humans and other animals and are now trying to fight humans for control of the planet.

I mean they’re anatomically human in every way except for the spines protruding out of their skin

[hallow wind]

i had a theory he corrupted some pods all together, but hiding nameless on the ship is extensive but sounds like something he'd do

[lime forge]

That’s a stretch

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He could’ve just kept their genome and refined it

[hallow wind]

before the explosion?

[trim quest]

Yes

Either that or some of the pods on the infected ship got launched

[lime forge]

I think the Aratai are natives of Arat

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I mean maybe but it’s kinda weird that they’re just spiny orcs

[hallow wind]

idk how the quills appeared tho, considering the only creature to have quills are dilo's (off the top of my head)

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When you have 4 jawed flower chameleons and likely other weird alien life the Aratai are glaringly out of place

[hallow wind]

all the trailers give me an open air abberation vibe to an extent

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It’s like going to an alien planet where everything is an arthropod except for the green humans living there

Yeah convergent evolution is possible but it’s a lot more vague in it’s function than straight up making intelligent humanoids like seen in Star Trek or Star Wars

Yeah you’ll get animals that are similar like dolphins and sharks but that’s functional anatomy specifically used to streamline the animals in water. For intelligent life it doesn’t seem to work that way because we have animals like, dolphins, chimpanzees, crows, elephants, and cephalopods who are all exceptionally intelligent but differ in anatomy vastly.

I’m just overthinking it a bit but honestly the Aratai seem like something Rockwell created as a last ditch effort to thwart his enemies

[mint swan]

I feel like there will be a t rex but like t rex that can fly

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Honestly I kinda hope we get a creature similar to the Desert Titan but as a perma tame and not as monstrously overpowered

Some big flying alien manta

[grand tundra]

i heard that its going to be more primal like the early day ark, and tek an d that stuff will not be in the game