lore-nerdz

[solemn linden]

Now we're talking

[supple raven]

Nothing in ark should even exist lol

But then again who really cares

Its awesome we get these creatures

[solemn linden]

The real question is how so many of the extinction creatures ended up on the colony ship - like in extinction it was heavily implied that things like gasbags or snow owls had evolved on Earth during the time that the arks were in orbit and since the colony ship is known to have left at around the same time that the arks were first put into orbit, how did those species end up on the colony ship? Like not only would the ship have been lightyears away by the time those things evolved, but it seems kind of counter intuitive to bring species that are known to infused with the same stuff that drove most of the life on your home world to extinction along for the ride. My best guess is that the whole element hivemind thing meant that element was able to induce near identical mutations to create effectively the same creatures despite the huge distance between the ship and Earth. Either that or the extinction creatures evolved far earlier than we initially thought. Probably just an oversight for gameplay purposes.

[supple raven]

Then again it is fun to talk about how something like the astrodelphis or astrocetious or other creatures could possibly exist or why they shouldnt exist

[solemn linden]

Fair lmao

[rain dock]

I thought most of the extinction creatures were on the protoarks, with the exception of gasbags which evolved before the arks

[solemn linden]

The notes generally seem to imply that they are the result of species from within and outside of the protoarks crossbreeding over time as a result of the lack of any kind of protective barrier preventing things from leaving the protoarks

So they weren't originally like that when the protoarks were created - just ended up that way after centuries of the element infused creatures outside the protoarks mixing with the species preserved inside the protoarks

[rain dock]

Well, we know someone on both genesis and extinction who really really liked infusing things with element

[solemn linden]

Yup, which is why my best guess for the extinction creatures presence in gen 2 is Rockwell either purposefully recreated species that he encountered during his short stay on Earth after aberration crash landed, or recreated them accidentally through his experiments - or maybe the whole element hivemind thing meant that he just had the knowledge of how to make them despite having not personally encountered any of them. Who knows lmao

If it is Rockwell's doing though, the fact that gasbags and snow owls appear on the Eden ring would suggest that his influence was starting to spread from ring to ring

[bold dove]

Even sharks wouldn't be that bad.

Actually, dolphins would be more aggressive then a shark.

(differs to species to species)

[solemn linden]

Yeah dolphins are twisted creatures

[bold dove]

They're the humans of the sea.

[solemn linden]

Truuuue

there are plenty of reasons why Rockwell would take a liking to them lmao

[bold dove]

Sharks attack due to being scared or instincts.
Dolphins will literally call their friends to gang up on you for no fucking reason.
No territory issues, nothing instinctual, just cause they can and they're boarded.

[solemn linden]

Sharks kill for food. Dolphins kill for fun.

[bold dove]

Just like humans

[solemn linden]

Yup

It's kind of funny how so many of the species that humanity recognizes as "intelligent" are just needlessly cruel lmao

[rain dock]

I mean, it is kind of impossible to deny the intellignce of some creatures based on their learning capabilities.

Behavior is something apart lol

[bold dove]

Well, yeah.
Elephants are quite intelligent, and they have committed less crimes against humanity.

....unlike dolphins.....

[solemn linden]

Yeah that's why elephants are cool

...unlike dolphins...

[rain dock]

Yeah. It kind of doesnt make sense to call dolphins cruel though. They dont exactly have the same moral standards as modern human society, they are no more or less cruel than any other carnivore

[solemn linden]

oh I wasn't talking about the fact they eat meat

I mean the other unspeakable things they do to fish

[bold dove]

I was talking about.......'other' stuff they've done.

[bold dove]

Yeah, those.

[solemn linden]

let's just say the dolphins are "playing" with their food a little bit too much

honestly it makes me kind of glad they we never get to see exactly what the astrodelphis eat - cause if they treat their prey the same way that real world dolphins treat theirs...

[lyric tendon]

I already stated them as bullies

[rain dock]

I mean, yeah I dont deny that dolphins do things that are pretty terrible looking from a modern societies lense. But cruelty is really based on what moral system people have

[ruby tangle]

man i look away for half a day again and miss everything when will i learn lol

so just for the sake of curiousity what aspect of the body plan for the astrodelphis makes so little sense for a spacefaring species?

fins may not be useful for locomotion in space but due to their highly bioluminescent properties its just as likely that they are used more for communication or mating displays kinda like squid

or it could simply be an evolutionary holdout from a time when they used to be functional, like how some species of whales still have a vestigial pelvis from when hind legs used to be a thing, assuming these are aliens they had to come from somewhere, and in that somewhere fins might have been much more useful in a traditional sense before being repurposed

as for not seeing them eat anything in the space area you also have to remember that if they really are spacefaring this might simply just not be where they eat, and that the astrodelphis/astrocetus in the area are just curious visitors drawn by the light of the ship

oh and while the rockwell thing is at least semi plausible on paper you would expect him to have mentioned it at least once given how often he liked to brag about his creations to you

[bronze turtle]

lol

[rain dock]

It having fins

[ruby tangle]

already handled that anything else lol

[rigid palm]

It having streams of light flowing out from behind it

Not specific to space creature just seems weird to me

[ruby tangle]

i mean i guess but i don’t see how that really factors in lol

chalk that up to the fantasy aspect of it

[solemn linden]

In general the main part of the astrocetus's body plan that I find weird is it's respiratory system. Sure, in gameplay the astrocetus doesn't require oxygen but the same is true for plenty of species in the game that we know require oxygen in real life, so I'm gonna count that as being for the sake of gameplay and not really being lore accurate. We know it should need to breath because not only does the astrocetus have transparent skin, allowing you to quite literally see it's lungs, but it is also shown to not only have a blowhole but actually use it to breath. The genesis part 2 space biome seems to be an oxygen filled bubble around the ship, judging by the fact that both the player and any other creature that requires oxygen can breath there no problem without an oxygen tank or any other special equipment - either that or space in the ark universe is magically full of oxygen for some unknown reason. So that all seems to check out - space whale needs oxygen, colony ship has oxygen. The problem is how the space whales ended up in the colony ship's bubble. From what we can see in game their warp ability really isn't powerful enough for them to be moving all that quickly through the vast expanse of space so they would've been more or less confined to the space around a singular planet, having to periodically re-enter it's atmosphere to breath (unless of course the warp is far more powerful in lore than it is in gameplay). So effectively we're stuck with 3 options: Either the astrocetus has somehow evolved past the need to breath and its lungs only exist as a leftover from their evolutionary history, or the astrocetus around the colony ship got picked up when it passed by their home world and are now trapped in it's oxygen bubble as they would suffocate if they tried to leave, or it's warp ability is far more powerful than we see in game and they simply warp over to an oxygen rich planet when they need to breath.

[ruby tangle]

oh lord gimme a sec to read this lol

[solemn linden]

To be fair tho it's obviously got to be really hard to come up with a space whale that makes any sense lmao

[solemn linden]

fair haha

[ruby tangle]

ah k makes sense

ye honestly there was likely never going to be a satisfying answer without going way too in depth, most creatures barely get any more than a single document so getting a workable answer to biological space travel in there would be rough

[rigid palm]

Space whale is definitely gm, its in the simulation after all

Space dolphin, doubt

[ruby tangle]

well not quite

the gen 2 lore notes show that people were capable to make and edit sims and that it was done regularly enough that when it was brought up it seemed more like a hobby than an out of ordinary action

so it just as easily could have just been added after the fact

which would make a fair bit of sense considering that it would canonically be one of if not the first forms of extraterrestrial life encountered depending on if you include element in that description which i’m not even gonna touch that can of worms so preparing people for them sounds about right

[rigid palm]

I suppose

But why not just add dolphins too

[ruby tangle]

maybe they were discovered later in the voyage and the events of gen 2 happened before it could be properly implemented

people kinda had more important things to do by that point lol

[rigid palm]

Could argue the same for space whales

[ruby tangle]

fair enough but if they were gm why would they not have been in the system to begin with

so it makes more sense to me that they were discovered and not made

the dolphins i mean mb

but as far as the whales are concerned if people went so far as to make a whole new species based on the dolphins but bigger why would it not be mentioned even once in logs of any kind

[lyric tendon]

i'd argue the discovery of the delphis is before Rockwell takes a mess of the sim hence the delphis didnt added to the sim/data for the sim

[faint meteor]

anyone willing to give me ark lore

i need a refresher since i haven't been playing ark for quite some time

[bold dove]

-Funny rock crashed into Earth
-Human make tek out of funny rock
-Funny rock is a virus/metal
-Humans go nearly extinct and make the ARK's/Genesis-ship to preserve life

[faint meteor]

very simplified

yet still very informative

[bold dove]

If you want a more THICC version, check the pins

[faint meteor]

alr thanks

[quick tusk]

@rigid palm

[rigid palm]

What?

[bronze turtle]

What about the arks?

[bold dove]

I stated them.

[bronze turtle]

Atleast in solo, why we are the unique survivors in the island? Why we are alone even if has clearly traces of other people that lived there? I was about to quote what the red obelisk did to people on scorched earth but i remembered it only destroyed everybody because there was a whole city in there.

[bold dove]

Being the only person on an ARK isn't really canon.
It's more or less suppose to be played on servers.

[bronze turtle]

I know, but it would be cool to hear a theory about it to explain it even if its not Canon

[ember solar]

Then make one up

[bold dove]

Exactly.

[ember solar]

You are bottom of the barrel of survivors everyone else was a better choice than you but all failed, gl

[tough lava]

I always thought that because I just find ruins, the ARKs are really old and everyone else has failed to survive or moved on and become Homo Deus. Then when I get to extinction I find out that respawning didn't exist until it was created by one particular H. D. so in single player I take it to mean nobody could respawn before me. It gives the story more like a post-apocalyptic vibe, at least until you get to Gen1/2 and hear the chattering flying robot personality

[scarlet flame]

hey where did perry go?

[ember solar]

Read the lore to find out

[royal tundra]

How old are the arks anyways?

Like what, 600-700 years old?

[bronze turtle]

another non canonical thing im just asking for curiosity but, who writed the dossier of this of free maps like amargas, deinos etc?

if was helena, how did she travelled to other maps like lost island, crystal etc? because these dont have overseers to people ascending to them

[bold dove]

You answer this question with the last message.

"non-canonical"

[wintry spire]

Does someone wrote here a lore for the center? Im really interested about how people think how is the center

[lyric tendon]

nope, some free maps are made to be cool

[wintry spire]

Ohhh

[keen yoke]

Imagine being a nerd

[lyric tendon]

Imagine being not

[tame knot]

Center happened when the ark centered into the center

[wintry spire]

So many centers xd

[woven ether]

whats happening

and no one is here

[plain plover]

We are starved

[shell fractal]

I wish there was lore for the survivor we play as

[lyric tendon]

i mean you can make one yourself

[shell fractal]

My own lore for the survivor we play as is:

Some random person who woke up on the island

[bold dove]

That'd ruin the point of the Survivors being 'our' characters.

[ornate hull]

New map teaser

I forgot how to spell it

[bold dove]

Fjhordorherdo

[rigid grove]

Fjordur

[bold dove]

Fjhorhor?

[crude shadow]

I like to believe that for singleplayers, your survivor is quite literally the last intact survivor by the time Helena creates the respawn protocol

You were thought to be worthless, as your base stats were as basic as basic get

So they left your Engramium in stasis the whole time

It was because of Helena that you finally wake up, and begin your journey

[ember solar]

You can believe whatever you want I don’t think anyone is gonna stop you

[plain plover]

Yo guys what do you think of the Tek Tier Rising trailer

[thorn sierra]

?

[plain plover]

I think it was pretty good especially the music

So glad that David Tennant is returning to voice Santiago

[thorn sierra]

Like the update tek came out?

Wait huh?

Oh wait

[plain plover]

The movement looks good

and I’m glad that Garett isn’t doing the soundtrack for this one

And they got the toon town online composer to do it

[fallow sapphire]

Yeah it was so good

[bronze turtle]

I’m confused could I get a link to the trailer

[bold dove]

Look at the date

[bronze turtle]

I fell for that one soo hard

[ornate hull]

Them are fighting words boy

[fringe snow]

i have a theory about valguero that i came up with about a year ago

since valg has an aberration zone, i wonder if it is a past or future version of the map aberration

maybe some super heat event cleared the surface of all life, or maybe a star exploded.

or maybe the ark healed from a desolate wasteland to a more lush surface

the aberration zone bears some similarities to the aberration ark, meaning they could be past or future versions of each other

[rigid palm]

How do you explain the obelisks moving like halfway across the map

[fringe snow]

maybe a titan from earth shot them down (if aberration is the future of valg) or they were rebuilt by survivors (if valg is the future of aberration). if aberration is the future, maybe whatever brought them down landed on the ark and knocked them far away

maybe whatever force took down the obelisks caused the scorch on top of the ark

[solid iris]

I'm like 99% that valguero isn't canon so it doesn't fit into the story because it's not part of it.

the ab zone on valguero being the biggest lore problem

[rigid palm]

Valg isn’t canon, I’m assuming they’re just thinking of cool headcanon

[solid iris]

ah yea that's fair

[lyric tendon]

It's not canon because the mod makers did not considered them having lore

[short dragon]

Sensai wu is canon

[lyric tendon]

(I know TC has one but it's in the depths of the forum)

[hasty creek]

Why?

[plain plover]

He does more orchestra stuff, TTR has Vocal tracks

[hasty creek]

Ah

[bold dove]

He's fucking with you, btw.

[hasty creek]

Ok

[ornate hull]

This implies there are space titans

[fringe snow]

but does it? the titans on earth could have been there at any point

we know the king titan can control some celestial elements, and element found its way through space. a titan could have grown on the aberration/valguero ark. maybe rockwell caused the destruction

[rain dock]

I mean, element came from space lol

[lyric tendon]

The King Titan is just a pawn for the Element Hivemind

KT has no control over Rockwell or anything outside Earth

Also Valguero is not canon

[rain dock]

Lol

[snow seal]

pls help us create an ARK logo here

link is direct to the xy coords of the pixels some of us WC peeps are currently contesting

https://www.reddit.com/r/place/?cx=290&cy=791&px=10

yes I am blatantly abusing the fact i own the server and posting this off-topic . I think the people who frequent this channel are less likely to troll us than general
chat lol

here is the template we're working from

https://puu.sh/IStvp/9caef9b6d1.png

[rigid palm]

I think the people who frequent this channel are less likely to troll us than general chat lol
Debatable

[snow seal]

https://tenor.com/view/embarrassed-sad-cry-smile-im-fine-gif-14251203

[bold dove]

This is random.
But a welcomed one.

[fringe snow]

ye ik that valg is non canon but im just theorizing

and i never said king titan had any control over rockwell

the reson i said the king titan has control over some celestial elements is because during its boss fight, meteors come out of the sky. it made those meteors fall out of the sky

[bold dove]

So, you want us to make our own ARK pixelart logo?
Or am i missing something from this?

[fallow sapphire]

They have one going, think we have to work off that to make a logo

[fallow sapphire]

This being the plan

[snow seal]

yayayaya

[fringe snow]

hello server owner

[bold dove]

Ooooh, so we just that template to make our own version of the ARK logo.

[snow seal]

https://puu.sh/IStvp/9caef9b6d1.png

[snow seal]

hello delicious egg treat

[bold dove]

Got it. 👍

[fringe snow]

wait what this for

what going on

i wanna help

[fallow sapphire]

We take over a section of r/place, then the world

[fringe snow]

so we just making pixel art ark logos?

[fallow sapphire]

One piece of element at a time

[snow seal]

e x a c t l y

[fallow sapphire]

There is already one in the works, plan is to finish it

[bold dove]

I don't know man. Seems a bit 'cough' 'cough'
"𝓢𝓤𝓢"
But whatever it is. I'm just happy that we're getting more interactive mini-games/competitions like this.

[fringe snow]

can i help?

[fallow sapphire]

If you have reddit, thats what the link was for

[fringe snow]

why do we need reddit for it

[bold dove]

Cause we're all Redditors deep inside.

[fallow sapphire]

Truly

[fringe snow]

ima just go make an ark logo cuz i can

u have fun hijacking reddit

[snow seal]

yes please, you just need to be logged into your reddit acc, then click on the link which will give you the exact xy coordinates of where we are contesting for space to finish the ARK logo. Check the template and find a place to add a pixel. There is a 5 min cooldown for each pixel so we need halp

[fringe snow]

i dont understand reddit

[fallow sapphire]

Understandable

[fringe snow]

there's a five minute cooldown on each pixel?

[fallow sapphire]

Five minute cooldown per person so there isnt pixel spam

[snow seal]

well, for each user, more accurately

[fringe snow]

i dont understand

can u explain again in idiot terms for me while i log into reddit?

[bold dove]

You should probably pin the message and the template before it gets burred

[snow seal]

I'm not sure i can explain it more simply to be honest

[fallow sapphire]

Giant art board needs ark logo, lore nerdz to make it

[snow seal]

thank you for trying to help though

[high nexus]

I don't even see the logo

[bold dove]

Wait...you can do the art over peoples art?

[fallow sapphire]

Yep

Thats why there are 5 min timers when you paint

So you don’t completely cover someones artwork

[bold dove]

hahahaha
Hahahah
HAHAHAHAH!!!!!
I see why now, they want to do this.

[snow seal]

💪

[fallow sapphire]

[bold dove]

They truly 'do' want to dominate that canvas with nothing but ARK logo's.
And if that's the case, i will help. And let my inner "It's my turn on the Xbox" come out.
I will nae-nae on these peoples (great) pixelart, and it'll be dominated by ARK.
HAHAHAAHA!!!!

[fallow sapphire]

Time to work on a cloning machine to have thousands of people dedicated to the cause

[high nexus]

found it

[bold dove]

The reddit, or the original art?

[high nexus]

what we are supposed to be creating. I added my part for now

[bold dove]

Oooooh, it's 5 minutes per pixel

Welp

Let the games, begin.

NOOO!

Some asshole painted over my single red dot. xD

[fallow sapphire]

Aight Dollie i need to know what design you guys used for cloning in ark, need to replicate it

[bold dove]

You asses, now i have to wait 4 more minutes. xD

[fringe snow]

oh are we taking someone's drawing it and overriding it with da ark logo?

[snow seal]

we are taking over part of the belgian flag

and they are waking up

[fallow sapphire]

This link takes you to the exact spot where it is

[snow seal]

ya lemme just copypasta the original msg again

[fringe snow]

o ok

[bold dove]

Lets get those lovely belgian people.

[high nexus]

its honestly a very small part of the flag

[snow seal]

pls help us create an ARK logo here

link below is direct to the xy coords of the pixels some of us WC peeps are currently contesting

https://www.reddit.com/r/place/?cx=290&cy=791&px=10

yes I am blatantly abusing the fact i own the server and posting this off-topic . I think the people who frequent this channel are less likely to troll us than general

here is the template we're working from, pls follow that

https://puu.sh/IStvp/9caef9b6d1.png

5 min cooldown for each user, fighting the belgians for their flag space

[high nexus]

this is pretty cool

[snow seal]

yeah we felt it was probably a safe-ish area to contest

[lyric tendon]

Someone in r/ARK want to recreate the PixARK logo

[fringe snow]

alright where we putting it

[high nexus]

someone tried to turn a grey orange. took it back lol

[bold dove]

You know, i know y'all are busy people. But if you guys can do stuff like this here and there. Playing with your community like this, then this'd be great for everyone i think.

[lyric tendon]

We need a cluster of small A's as our "foundation spam" to make the higher res version

[fringe snow]

@snow seal where we putting the ark logo

i cant find it

[high nexus]

its pinned

[fringe snow]

as i am an egg at 2:11am, i am small brain

oh i found it

i thought it was a body for the heart

[snow seal]

kinda satisfying to take them back huh? haha

[high nexus]

lol yeah, but now I may have a problem xD

[snow seal]

haha yeah we're getting competitive too

[fringe snow]

i hath placed a tile

are u proud of me?

[snow seal]

gud job eggy

[fringe snow]

go to the flag

[high nexus]

when does it end?

[fringe snow]

im the tile to the left of the tile that makes up the bottom left corner of the hole in the middle of the a

somebody got rid of a black. am have sad

[rigid palm]

My brain hurts now

[fringe snow]

perry, u live next to me now

r u platypus?

[bold dove]

We're getting closer by the minutes

[fringe snow]

perry r u "Ok Platypus"?

i feel like this is just a normal reddit thing

[lyric tendon]

I am coordinating with the r/ARK people now

[fringe snow]

like this is sub-normal.

[rigid palm]

I’m sorry what

[fringe snow]

usually stuff is weirder

[fringe snow]

r u the person named "Ok-Platypus"?

[lyric tendon]

I mean the lore is done

We pretty much don't know what to do

[rigid palm]

No

[fringe snow]

oh it seems like u would be

[high nexus]

we about to crash into a planet. brace for impact!

[snow seal]

ayyyyyye

[fringe snow]

Bluestone is helping!

also ofc bluestone put down a BLUE tile

[rigid palm]

Nah I’m not on reddit rn

[bold dove]

FUCK

I placed down a dark-grey instead of a light one

[fringe snow]

also dont think i forgot about this. You should still change your name to Perry Maeson

[lyric tendon]

I'm on my phone... I guess I have to pester Rassclark again

[bold dove]

It's good, since the game took pity and glitched out, and allowed me to place another pixel.

[rigid palm]

You might not have forgotten, but I did

[fringe snow]

hehe

go to general chat cuz ima link to the message

i have started the green side of the war

im dumb. i put it in the wrong spot

alright ima come back to the pixel war in like 20 hours

bye bye

[bronze turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-zac-efron-im-not-mad-upset-hurt-gif-14717203

😄

[bold dove]

[lyric tendon]

r/belgians are fighting back lol

[snow seal]

😡

[bold dove]

We need to push harder.

[lyric tendon]

we need reinforcements for #general

[snow seal]

so risky

we are debating it

SO RISKY

[rigid palm]

Dew it

[lyric tendon]

we lost green, blue is strggling

TBH this is perfect for a discord side event for shiits and giggles

[bold dove]

Blue ain't gonna fucking struggle under my leadership.

Via bluerevolution.

[lyric tendon]

i am regaining Green now

[bronze turtle]

What are the cords for this?

[lyric tendon]

pin comment

we need someone to defend red

[bronze turtle]

What pinned comment I’m confused lol

[lyric tendon]

are you on mobile or on PC?

[bronze turtle]

Mobile

[lyric tendon]

swipe right of this chat and click on the pin

[bold dove]

Blasting the Elden-Ring theme while waiting for the timer to drain.

[rigid palm]

https://www.reddit.com/r/place/?cx=290&cy=791&px=10

[bronze turtle]

Thanks

[snow seal]

thanks Perry

[bronze turtle]

I’ll start helpin rn

[snow seal]

[rigid palm]

[bold dove]

.....pain

[lyric tendon]

green is almost secured

they are attacking blue now

[bold dove]

Not anymore

[lyric tendon]

time to take over red now

they are attacking blue again

they are attacking green now

[rigid palm]

They’re attacking from all directions

[bold dove]

Then it's a even fight.

We're almost done!

Green got nae-naed

Guys.
I think that's the wrong shade of green.

[rigid palm]

Looks a bit too bright

[bold dove]

Yeah

[bronze turtle]

Lmao too late now

[bold dove]

You wanna fucking bet?

Red's being attacked

So is green

[bronze turtle]

It’s mostly just green rn

[lyric tendon]

mostly green

[bold dove]

Now, it's a fight!

[lyric tendon]

i think we need to coodinate in #general

[bold dove]

Hell no

[bronze turtle]

Belgium needs to fucking chill 💀

[lyric tendon]

nationalism at work

[bronze turtle]

Lmaooo

We need more people this isn’t working :/

[rigid palm]

Theres a vc rn for better communication

[bronze turtle]

The logos completely gone : (

Wait so are moving somewhere else?

[tender wasp]

I think the poor logo got purged or did you switch place

[bronze turtle]

It got purged : (

Are we gonna try again?

[lyric tendon]

we got wiped

[bronze turtle]

Alr Im out ping me if we start again

Byeee

[low venture]

We still trying to make the ark A?

[lyric tendon]

we lost

[low venture]

Are we going to try to remake it?

[lyric tendon]

unknown

[low venture]

Well ping me if we get a set location, I'll help defend it

[bronze turtle]

Same

There’s still 2 days till r/place ends so we have time

[low venture]

Yeah we can still do this

[lyric tendon]

if we cave massive coodination an a place that is not contested

[bold dove]

We fucking lost to Belgium's

[bronze turtle]

Are we starting again I just got a ping

[dire oyster]

Jumped in but it was all over by the time I had 🙃

[lyric tendon]

we need a suitable place to set away from nationalistic territories

[red sparrow]

i need a giga on smalls pc who has ???

[lyric tendon]

none

[ornate hull]

I think the ark logo died on the reddit thing

It got taken over by vtubers

[lyric tendon]

No just Belgians

[ornate hull]

What about the Belgians

[lyric tendon]

They are trying to erase the logo while we are defending it

[ornate hull]

Oh what are the cords for it?

[lyric tendon]

Pinned post in here

The dutch blocked it, preventing us to build back

[ornate hull]

Oof

[lyric tendon]

The issue with us is we are few people active

And we are contesting against a national subreddit

[ornate hull]

I don't have a reddit account

[lyric tendon]

Sadly you have to

[ornate hull]

So I can't help

[lyric tendon]

It's fine, it's already over

[fallow sapphire]

In the words of obi wan, “the war is over… we lost”

[bronze turtle]

Lol

[rigid palm]

Also in the words of obi wan “hello there”

[bronze turtle]

There’s an empty blue square that’s not very contested around 1420, 40 if we do wanna start again

[low venture]

Has the canvas been extended?

[bronze turtle]

Yeah

Which means there more room to make the A!

[low venture]

Well, if we make another plan please lmk, I'll help defend it

[lyric tendon]

#960259396716363856

[left ocean]

We gotta try again for the ark logo in r/place

[ebon plover]

Hello friends

Cedric seems very active on discord today it’s peaked my curiosity

[thorn sierra]

Ah well hello again preston

[timid mauve]

in the gen simulation there is no noise when you crack your knuckles

[ornate hull]

You sure lemme try it a few hundred times

[rare mantle]

Btw is the lore good

[bronze turtle]

Yes

[glass ravine]

Very good

[haughty salmon]

Are there any easter eggs in ARK: Survival Evolved that reference other games that should be considered canon to the timeline?

[rugged pier]

did the overseer used to be a person?

[lyric tendon]

*persons

[rugged pier]

Oh

[rain dock]

Pretty sure the overseer is just an ai

[south wing]

Yeah the Overseer, to my understanding, is pretty much an amalgamation of a bunch, if not, all of the Homo Deus that were tasked with overseeing the ARKs and to fix anything that isn't right in the ARK. We see this in John Dahkeya and Raia's stories in Scorched Earth when one of the obelisks activates and sinks the city of Nosti into the ground.

It is also possible that the Overseer is a conquerable role meaning that the role can be replaced by a being powerful and capable enough to do it. We see this in Aberration when the surivivors detonated a bomb in the ARK's control station to stop the Overseer from keeping them in the ARK and, eventually, when Rockwell injected himself with element, he became powerful enough to act as that ARK's overseer

[plain plover]

Each overseer was a singular Homo deus, but there was one in Each Ark

They kind of lose all possible individuality at some point so there’s that

[bold dove]

The overseer's are physical vessels for Homo-Deus's.
This was confirmed in The One Who Waits, if i recall.

[bold dove]

Little references/Easter-eggs

Like the codename for Reapers are "Xenomorphs" cause they where inspired by the Alien movies.
The titans's codenames are "Kaiju's" most likely due to the similarities of Pacific-Rim in Extinction. (Giant Meks vs Giant monsters.)

Oh, then there's a Leed/whale in the moon on The Island's ascension cutscene. But you have to ghost/noclip your way towards it.

[lyric tendon]

Brain Slug for Noglin
Magical Lieopleuredon is an ancient internet meme reference
Helena made movie quotes in her dossiers

[bold dove]

What does brainslug reference?

[lyric tendon]

Futurama

[bold dove]

OOOOH!!!!

Holy shit.
I just realized that. It fucking makes sense.

[solemn linden]

More of a book / movie reference than a game reference but Helena directly references Dune in one of the Scorched Earth explorer notes when she sees a deathworm for the first time: "I laughed that off at first. Then I saw a creature the size of a train burst up from the sand and devour a wild morellatops that had wandered into its territory. I suppose I'll just have to learn to walk without rhythm..." - which references the line in Dune "Walk without rhythm and we won't attract the worm"

we also know that when it comes to genetically engineered creatures the overseers are more than happy to create things based on human mythology, such as wyverns and rock golems, so the similarities between the reapers and the xenomorphs from the alien movies could be an indication that the overseers are also looking at pop culture for inspiration as well as mythology (though that's never been confirmed to be canonical and obviously outside of potential lore implications it's just the devs wanting to reference their favourite movies lmao)

[fierce lotus]

How did Helena end up as the AI HLN-A

[bold dove]

She didn't.

[fierce lotus]

Oh

Then what happened

[bold dove]

HLN-A is more or less the child of Helena.
Basically, Homo-Deus Helena put some of her personality within an A.I construct aka HLN-A to act as a guide for the survivor within the simulation and the ship.

Even though they share the same personality, they're two separate beings.

[fierce lotus]

That’s cool

I love lore

Especially in games where it can be confusing at times

[lucid flame]

Is the manticore meant to be the overseer or just another boss on scorched earth?

[lyric tendon]

Just another boss

The SE Overseer exist in Helena's note but wasn't implemented by WC because lawsuit

[wary ruin]

What lawsuit?

[lyric tendon]

About ATLAS

[merry storm]

Wait what

[latent fractal]

well it wasn't directly because of the lawsuit, the overseer on the island and the lore in general were released a long time after SE launched. And the reason that SE launched as early as it did was indeed because of the lawsuit. The notes for SE weren't planned either as the writer said he came up with them while flying through SE which is where the scorched earth overseer is mentioned. So the reason there is a overseer in the lore but not in the game is pretty much that they weren't planning on having one there when they released it.

[wild gazelle]

wait ark has lore?

[teal kelp]

a ton

[wild gazelle]

i legit thought is was just a game where you are stranded with dinos lmao, i dont have any dlcs so thats prob why i dont know the story

[cedar plover]

Hey can someone hatch a egg from a different tribe and I go claim it, would I get imprinting when I raise it?

[plain plover]

if you are the one who imprints it after it first hatches

[thorn sierra]

Quick question? Did we ever find out what happens to Nina?

[fallow sapphire]

Technically, no. But basing off the note you get when you see the ring detachment thing in the antechamer, it seems like she died after she programmed it

[thorn sierra]

Ah ok thanks

[plain plover]

On the contrary

You don't kill a character off stage with the last scene they appeared in having them escape certain death at sacrifice of another character

It's not a really a bad decision in terms of writing, but it is does go against all logic

Do you not want a character in your next game who already has a compelling backstory as the last crew member from the genesis ship being 16 years old and one of the only survivors who have knowledge of the the Genesis systems which have run wild?

Unless there is an unknown reason why Nida can't survive as it would impact the story of ARK 2, it just doesn't make sense to kill her off

[bold dove]

This is kind of the same case for Diana and Mei, in a way.

Sure, the OG versions are 99% dead cause it's need hundreds to thousands of years after the notes.
But they 'could' come back as clones from the Genesis-ship.

[plain plover]

Diana and Mei's story was over. It was fitting for them to walk off into the sunset.

And if they bring them back as characters, it's can't be related to what happened to them after Extinction.

Just like the entirety of ARK 2

[bold dove]

Right, should've made it clear but that was my point.
Just cause a character died or is missing in action in ARK-1, doesn't mean they can't come back as a soft-reboot version in ARK-2.

[plain plover]

You could have an interesting dynamic where they meet each other as new clones, but Mei has her memories reset to what they were when she first woke up on island, while Diana remembers having a fulfilling life with Mei post-extinction. This would then be the plot of Shrek 4.

[bold dove]

Wouldn't be the first time the story has took inspiration from other medias.
So fuck it, Shrek 4.

ARK-2: Get out of my Swamp.

[plain plover]

What are you doin in my jungle!

[high sail]

I don't bother with ark lore can someone dm me literally all ark lore we know of so I don't have to find Explorer notez

[arctic bison]

you can look the notes up on the wiki

[high sail]

I am too lazy to

I beat every map in order multiple times and still haven't bothered with Explorer notes

@arctic bison

[plain plover]

you can watch the survival stories series on youtube

[bronze turtle]

about pop culture thing its dilophosaurs being tiny and having venom refferencing jp and troodons having torpor venom reffering to jp the game

[high sail]

Yeah it's been proven dilophosaurus we're 2.5 ish meters tall

[high sail]

By who

[heavy sandal]

NeddyTheNoodle

[rigid grove]

The pins in this channel also have everything up to genesis at least

[high sail]

Hehehheh funny

[static monolith]

What is the gem on our arms

[lyric tendon]

the implant, used as our means of inventory management and in lore used as a translator

[static monolith]

Translator??

[lyric tendon]

in Mei's Explorer Notes she discovered that the implant provides translation between people from different nations

[static monolith]

Oh

[bold dove]

The implants.
Every survivor has one, and they're used for tracking devises for the Overseer, and as universal translators.
So someone like Mei, that's Chinese and most likely 'only' knows Chinese language, can listen to someone like a American or so in their own native language.

[thorn sierra]

Could y'all imagine that one of the guardians was a big ass pego, or one of the Titans

[fallow sapphire]

no

[lyric tendon]

No

[bold dove]

ARK Mobile be like

[ornate hull]

Ark mod were every dino acts like a pego

[lyric tendon]

Or a map that spawns nothing but pegos

[round beacon]

It would steal your life

[copper gorge]

I've been wondering this for a long time but what the the black and blue stuff on the extinction dinos?

[rain dock]

It's corruption caused by the element. It's kind of the whole reason for the arks in the first place

[copper gorge]

but it doesn't act like corruption on them

[lyric tendon]

because they are adapted to it with the help of the obelisks as well

[copper gorge]

ah

I see I see

thank you, my curiosity has been quelled

[bold dove]

It's corruption, but unlike the unstable corruption you see that's purple. Blue corruption more or less represents controlled corruption.
It help rapidly evolve some animals, like owls into snow-owls, at the cost of having a symbiotic relationship.

[pine knot]

I’d solo Rockwell he’s a pretty mid tier guy ngl 🥱

[vital robin]

rockwell really chose the skylord cave as a vacation location

[rapid lance]

How we fight Rockwell:shotgun,rock drakes,tames whatever we have
How mei-yn fights rockwell:TeK SuIt AnD tEk SwOrD

[delicate cradle]

After defeating rockwell prime on gen2, HLN-A says “shhh, she knew” right before the ending, who is she reffering to?

[arctic bison]

Helena from the island up to extinction explorer note survivors, who had a history with rockwell and who created HLN-A

[bold dove]

Helena

[mystic bluff]

Yo ik this isnt rlly ark lore but does any1 know if the rockdrakes are on earth or are just heavily mutated wyverns from scorched earth

Ik know theres corrupted drakes but theres no other drakes than other the 1s on ab which is a ark that is unique

[vital robin]

they're not mutated wyverns, so the best guess is they were somehow introduced to ext

[mystic bluff]

@vital robin still is strange how theyre only on 1 ark

[vital robin]

well, if we don't count the non-canon custom****** maps, wyverns are only on 1 ark. voidwyrms are kinda wyverns but more of a machine

the genesis simulation isn't really an ark either

[mystic bluff]

@vital robin ye but theres lots of scorched earths but only 1 abberation

[vital robin]

true. i really don't know the explanation for drakes on earth.

[mystic bluff]

@vital robin fair enough

[bold dove]

The ARK's are connected to a database, and so are the Proto-ARK's.
When Rock-drakes where made, they where part of the ARK-database. Meaning that the Proto-ARK's can also create them.
For why we don't see any tamable versions? Most likely a gameplay thing

[mystic bluff]

@bold dove so does that mean they were or werent from the original earth b4 the arks srry its just confusing

[bold dove]

No, just like Reapers. Drakes where made post-Earth's death.

[mystic bluff]

So y do we see corrupted variants on earth wouldnt the arks not want to create creatures that are against them

@bold dove

[bold dove]

Corrupted variants are infected creatures.
What's your point?

[mystic bluff]

@bold dove my point is why would the arks spawn corrupted creatures seems counterproductive dont you think

[bold dove]

They don't?

Like i said before. They spawn the 'normal' non-corrupted versions first, but they get infected.
But this is all off-screen due to gameplay reasonings. (most likely) hints why we only see corrupted variants instead.

[wild gazelle]

wait corrupted dinos are a thing

[bold dove]

Play Extinction

[wild gazelle]

i still needa get the dlc😭

[vital robin]

they don't, they spawn normal creatures, but they get corrupted

[mystic bluff]

@vital robin ngl still dont really make sense to me saying as how tge database needs a creature to base the drake off of as it cant just create a creature out of knowhere from the guys explanation but ill take the answer

[vital robin]

maybe the rock drakes are already in the broken database somehow. it doesn't make much sense

[mystic bluff]

@vital robin the only explanation i have is they were always on earth but were like reapers in a sense that they were only sent to keep the ark in control

[lyric tendon]

I mean there is a broken protoARK that is near the corrupted zone

[vital robin]

my theory is the damaged ark still functioned as a creature spawner, and also downloaded the rock drakes and reapers into the ark database

[bold dove]

ARK's create creatures for different purposes. This is how Wyverns where created.
Rock-Drakes serve a purpose, to be the apex of Reapers.
The Proto-ARK's on Extinction are connected to the ARK's in space via a database/internet connection.
A proto-ARK like the sunken forest. Which 'was' a proto-ARK before it 'sunk' most likely are trying to bring Rock-Drakes to the planet due to how they'd fit a "forest" type environment.
Due to the dev's though not wanting Rock-Drakes to be on any other map but Aberration for gameplay purposes. We don't 'physically' see the normal Rock-Drakes on Extinction.
But over time, they wonder into the wasteland and get infected with corruption. Making the Corrupted Rock-Drakes we see in-game.

Does that help explain it?

[mystic bluff]

@bold dove it doesnt answer the main question but it explains most of the other questions i had

[bold dove]

What was the main question?

[lyric tendon]

Another reason why forest wyverns die easily

[bold dove]

That's probably just gameplay.

[mystic bluff]

@bold dove were did the protoark get the actual dna of the drakes from

[lyric tendon]

protoARK is the first ARKs

Hence "proto" in prototype

[bold dove]

From the ARK's.
Which the ARK's themselves, I.E Aberration, either created them. Or they naturally evolved and the ARK just kept the creatures DNA.

If the ARK's can create something, then the Proto-ARK's can snitch it.
If the Proto-ARK's created something (which is most likely all of the dinosaurs) then the ARK's can snitch it. Cause they're all connected.

Did that answer the question?

[mystic bluff]

@bold dove ye thx

[delicate cradle]

Oh i though HLN-A was helena herself, thanks for clarifying

Just read through the explorer notes and it puzzled me a bit

[bold dove]

Nope.
HLN-A shares her personality, and some of her memories. But she's a separate being

[delicate cradle]

Good to know

Just read all the explorer notes and some stuff after gen didnt add up, it does now

[rapid lance]

I think the element itself mutated not only the creatures on extinction but they also mutated different creatures who somehow mixed each other into something new like rock drake is a combination of a lizard,chameleon and a bird which you can see on the paws with that bird skin,roll rats are originally mole rats and they're normally small,but the element changed their size's DNA.For the reaper idk but maybe it was combined with a depsea creature,a animal with durable skin and maybe even a dinosaur mix due to it's build. Also the mating behaviour may be from an parasitic insect which normally the larvae eats its prey alive after hatching out

[lyric tendon]

the rockdrake is a creation of the overseer, not really considered "corrupted" like their cousin, the mana

they dont have obvious tek streaks like all extinction creatures

[rapid lance]

Aren't overseers people who ascended into homo deus?

[lyric tendon]

no, overseers are powered by homodeus

like it's an AI/battery hybrid

[worldly cobalt]

yea

makes sense because if you remove all audio from the arena and listen carefully to the overseer's noises you can also hear the overseer say "The Chosen One.. Homodeus"

[lyric tendon]

also in The One Who Waits note about the existence of homodeus

[bold dove]

@bronze turtle Depends where the simulation is on the ship.
As we see in Genesis-1's ending, everyone in the sim are in pods. So if that's part of the main ship, they're dead.
If it's part of the rings, then the people on the Eden side probably survievd.

[bronze turtle]

Rockwell’s tentacle pulled the mc far aaway though

The pods must have been in what looks like the end room

Several of them departed so perhaps some could be alive

But in the ending cutscene we see most got shot down from debris

[bold dove]

The end room doesn't at all look like the pod-room in Genesis-1.

[bronze turtle]

No I mean we only saw one

In The end some of the pods go down in a line to maybe be placed in a room like that

[bold dove]

Again, it depends where the pods are located.

[bronze turtle]

True I’d say they were obliterated

That ship explosion looked like a nuke going off

[bold dove]

If the sim-pods where right next to the captain's deck, then that'd be pretty hard to navigate those pods all the way down to one of the rings, where the escape pods are.

[bold dove]

It was.

[bronze turtle]

Perhaps they were kept under the ring on the edges?

[bold dove]

The warp-drive exploded.
Which was a literal artificial star.

[bronze turtle]

I can’t remember the intro to gen 2

Oh right hlna teleports you

[bold dove]

Well, if the theory that Rockwell wanted to pull you into his throne room and confront you personally, instead of killing you out right is true. Then it'd be hard for it to be miles away.

[bronze turtle]

Fair

But my theory is looking at the ship model

You see those spikes next to the ring?

[bronze turtle]

then the area were santiago was on gen 2 ending its different from the sleeping pods area in gen 1 aight?

[bold dove]

Right, cause it was a escape pod

[bronze turtle]

Or or

Rockwell said something about corrupting the pods yeah?

[bold dove]

No, he didn't. But go on

[bronze turtle]

Looking at his voice lines

[bold dove]

That was HLN-A

At the end of Genesis-1.

She was confused how the corruption from a simulation was spreading into the real world.

[bronze turtle]

checked the ending rn, the area where santiago sleeping pod was its pretty different, and it was only his pod, dint had others

Yeah so what if he used the dna from the pods killed the survivors and then used the dna to make the corrupted survivors

[bold dove]

Like i said. It was a escape pod.

[bronze turtle]

I think in gen 1 ending there was a girl in the pod turning purple

[bold dove]

She was getting corrupted, yes.

[bronze turtle]

Mmm yes but corrupted survivors or corrupted extinction?

She couldn’t be the corrupted avatar

[bold dove]

She wasn't.

[bronze turtle]

Because that exists in the simulation

I wish this was explained a bit more with clues lol

[bold dove]

They probably made it into the corrupted extinction skin instead, cause they haven't made the corrupted survivor texture yet.

Was probably a temp-thing, like the old HLN-A voice-actress.....that....i still miss....

But unlike HLN-A, the random survivor was never updated post-Genesis-2.

[bronze turtle]

Looking at corrupted surveys they look like Rockwell

Element corruption is what Rockwell himself looks like

[bold dove]

They just look like deformed abominations.

[bronze turtle]

On gen 1 ending she’s turning corrupted

Extinction variant yes

[bold dove]

Did you not read what i just said?

[bronze turtle]

Yes I did I mean on the cutscene she’s the extinction variant

Partially

[bold dove]

That's.....what i was literally fucking talking about....

[bronze turtle]

There’s something wrong with it though it’s not fully like the extinction ones

[bold dove]

It's pretty much the extinction one.

[bronze turtle]

Pretty much but we never saw what happened after

[bold dove]

Cause there was no need to?

[bronze turtle]

Also there were no traces of element in the machine pod right?

Am I wrong about that?

[bold dove]

The water was turning purple.

[bronze turtle]

So pure element water from aberration interesting

[bold dove]

[bronze turtle]

So does Rockwell just randomly have the ability to create element or something lol

[bold dove]

You're looking way too far into something that's simple and wasn't intended to be this complicated.

[bronze turtle]

That’s a joy though

[bold dove]

When you're the new central pillar of Corruption now since the King-Titan is dead, yes.

[bronze turtle]

It says Rockwell used the colonists on the ship to make the corrupted survivors

[bold dove]

And like i stated literally 5 minutes ago.
"The corruption within the simulation is spreading into the real world. Hints why HLN-A says that should be impossible."

[bronze turtle]

Also how did Rockwell even leave aberration lol

Let alone catch up to a ship in ftl

Lore. The Corrupted Survivors are amalgamations of the Colonists from the side of the Genesis-Ship Rockwell Prime corrupted. As seen in the Ascension cutscene of Genesis: Part 1, Rockwell Prime is using Element to corrupt Colonists still within the Genesis Simulation

[bold dove]

Arat-Prime had a terminal to transfer himself there, which Aberration crashed right next to.

[bronze turtle]

Oh

[bold dove]

And it's hinted in Gabrials note's that he was only existed within a ghost-esqe like form. Since he left his previous physical body.
Wasn't till he started corrupting the ring to become Rockwell's Garden that he formed a new physical body.

[bronze turtle]

If they felt the need to redo hlna voice line why wouldn’t they bp make changes to the cutscene after they made the model

[bronze turtle]

That’s creepy lol

[bold dove]

Not worth the extra money.

[bronze turtle]

Lmao fair point

[weak cargo]

Ahh yes the complicated lord of ark

[plush rune]

so correct me if i'm wrong but the gist of arks lore is we found element, funky shit happened so we made arks and then some point after that we got onto a halo ring randomly flying through space in search of a habitable world and of course there's rockwell who decided to snort element and started turning into cuthulu

but where do dinosaurs, fantasy creatures, and whacky animals that look like they're from James Cameron's Avatar come from

[stiff estuary]

genetic modding

the hoomans need to test survivors with dinos

in the arks

[plush rune]

but why

[stiff estuary]

so big element monster can die

so hooman can kill big titans

[plush rune]

i get the shadowmane, blood stalker, and things like reaper queens are hybrids/genetically modified critters but why do they need those and dinosaurs to kill rockwell or "the big element monster" when guns seem to do the trick just fine

[stiff estuary]

cuz well guns dont?

also survivors need to get like real stronk

[bold dove]

Dinosaurs (at least in the ARK Universe) are actually more compatible as tames then humans x wolfs.

Other then that, there's no really a actual 'reasoning' for dinosaurs

Now, fantasy creatures are more or less act as punishments.

[plush rune]

huh, neat

[bold dove]

Just realized something sus

"continue ARK's dramatic eons-spanning story of humankind's evolution" could be over complicating this. But i wonder if this means ARK is set "Billions" of years in the future, since "Eons" means billions.

And if we take humans into account of how long we've been alive. We've only been alive for 200k years.
Given Santiago is in the 24th Century, around the time that corruption was starting to form. Don't think it's too much of a stretch to say ARK is set "Billions" of years in the future.
At 'least' 2, since "Eons" means more then 1 billion.
But it can't be more then 7 billion, since our star would die by then. So 'if' this is true, then i'd say ARK is set 2-Billion years in the future.

[glass ravine]

Sus

[languid whale]

But to be fair people do use eons as other things and the sun would have still expanded at least by a bit if it was indeed 2 billion years in the future and even with the element there, earth would have recovered at least is some places so the eons could just be signifying that is was a long time ago.

[rain dock]

Eons doesn't actually mean billions, it just means a lot of time though.

[bold dove]

What'd you mean?
Google never lies!

[rain dock]

Google is a joke really

[merry forge]

its not

[rain dock]

lol

You dont want that conversation with me jaja

[bold dove]

Yes, i know.
I use Youtube......

[shadow lagoon]

Google or the wiki? just asking XD

[rain dock]

The wiki is usually on point. Google is bad lol

[languid whale]

That’s what I was saying just with more stuff lol

“The Ark in-lore story begins about millions, or even billions of years after The Collapse, when the Arks begin to malfunction. Explorer notes indicate that the Arks have remained in orbit far longer than 646 years.”- the wiki. But this means either of us could be right because it says there could be a chance it has been there for billions of years. I do still think it probably millions of years though.

Just found that while reading the lore page for fun :),

[bold dove]

"It's been a long ass time"

[languid whale]

Yea that sums it up

[ornate hull]

Nah the entire lore happend in about an hour

[vital robin]

ark lore through cringe dialouge

The Island
Rockwell - Bri'ish scientist. may or may not be insane

Helena: Aussie biologist lady

Mei: chinese taming lady

Nerva: roman army dude

rockwell: oh look artifact
helena: cool
rockwell: science time

nerva: conquering time
rockwell: can i join?
nerva: ye ok
rockwell: btw maybe ob has power
nerva: can i has?
rockwell: ok but first kill dragon
nerva: ok

meanwhile
Helena: are you beast lady
Mei Yin: yesh
Helena: me is biologist
Mei: cool
Helena: wanna kill big monke?
Mei: lmao ok
Rockwell(secretly): how could you? you betray me!

Nerva: Kidnapping time
Helena: oh ok gets kidnapped
Mei: oh ok gets stranded

Nerva: Tek Cave time

Nerva: oh no, there's no power and overseer killed my army

Mei: murder time
Helena: ok but can you not?
Mei: no
mei murders Nerva
Helena: cool

Rockwell and Helena (seperately): Scorched Earth time

Mei and dead Nerva: Aberration time

[vital robin]

Scorched Earth pt 1

John: gunslinger-gangster dude

Raia: Egyptian pacifist priest lady

raia: ok me start town
raia's companions: ok
town expands

john: raiding time
john: oh wait, this town nice and weak. cool, me protector now.
raia: ok i guess

raiders: hehe we kidnap raia
john: no
raiders: rip
john: murder time
raia: ok but can you not
john: no
john muders raiders

raia: that was mean
john: skill issue
raia: teach me how to gun
john: ok

mantises: sabotage time
john: mantis genocide time
mantises: ok but can you not
john: no
john blows up mantis nest
john: oof me is hurt
raia: oh dang
john: gets better
john+raia: btw we like each other now

obelisks: you too stronk. genocide time
raia: ok but can you not?
obelisks: no
john: cmon les go
raia: lmao ok

john: hey look town
raia: go there
wyverns: surprise
john: oh dang
wyverns: murder time:
raia: ok but can you not?
wyverns: no
wyverns un-alive john
raia: mean
wyverns: skill issue
raia un-alives an entire wyvern swarm with one rifle
wyverns: i call hacks
raia: cry harder

raia: well me sad now, time to become myserious wyvern lady

[small rune]

[wary ruin]

Amazing

[arctic bison]

it's perfect

[vital robin]

Scorched Earth pt 2

Helena: woo, desert biology time
Rock elemental: btw i exist
Helena: oh dang
RaiaMysterious Wyvern Lady(MWL): hehe wyvern breath go brrrr
rock elemental: wait but wyvern breath doesn't damag-
rock elemental dies to wyvern breath
Helena: nice

Helena: okay, time for more desert biology and jerboa snuggling and manual labour
Mantis swarm: we're back!
Helana: oh dang
MWL: no
kills mantis swarm
mantis swarm: rip
Helena: nice. but who are you
Raia Mysterious Wyvern Lady has left the chat

Helena: time to find MWL
approximately 4.552 seconds later
Helena: found you
MWL: lmao
Helena: who r u
MWL: who's asking
Helena: idk
MWL: cool, i'm raia

meanwhile

Timur: barbarian pscycopath

Rockwell: time for more artifact/element hunting. this isn't an unhealthy obsession at all.
Peaceful Village: hey we worship those. you can't take though
Rockwell: did you say artifact?
peaceful village: yes but you can't ta-
rockwell: takes
peacefull village: dang ok

rockwell: time to fight manticore.
rockwell: oh wait i have one morellatops

timur:kidnapping time
rockwell: dang ok gets kidnapped
rockwell: ok but do you wanna kill manticore?
timur: ok but first help me deliver da baby
Rockwell: fine
da baby exists
Timur: ok manticore time
manticore defeated
timur: yay
rockwell: btw i'm gonna murder you.
timur: rip ok
timur: gets killed

in the next part, the two groups converge. but it's super late so i need to go to sleep.

[lyric tendon]

y u skip da baby?

[vital robin]

Da baby is inconsequential

[lyric tendon]

da baby is the reason why rockwell is spared and not murdered like the rest of the kidnapped villagers

[vital robin]

Fine,

[rain dock]

Lol, this is an epic. Even better than the notes jajaja

[noble vale]

Pre collapse lore in cringe dialogue

[noble vale]

21st century:

big rock falls from sky
humans: cool rock
rock has cool metal too
humans: cool we name this element
humans make cool technology
earth: help I’m getting sick
humans: shut

skip a couple hundred years

human war
earth: bruh I’m literally gonna die
humans: oh no anyway
humans use cool element in weapons and earth gets more sick
humans: wait
humans realise earth sick
humans: oh crap earth dying
earth: finally you realise
humans: let’s build cool space station with dinosaurs
Also humans: let’s build cool space ship
earth: how does that save me-
Other humans: let’s die on earth
earth: what?
Titans: hello we come to kill people and earth too
Earth: bruhhhhh
earth has died
humans has died
Atmosphere & moon: f### this s### I’m out

[small rune]

Me waiting for the next part

[rain dock]

Lol, me too. I keep checking this channel for it

[arctic bison]

this is the most digestible part of the lore

[lyric tendon]

cant wait for Ab and Ext

[vital robin]

Scorched Eart pt 3
short one!

hehe sandstorm go brrr
Helena: oh hi rockwell
rockwell: you freaking traitor im gonna trick you so hard
Helena: what?
rockwell: nothing i didn't say anything
helena: cool

rockwell: hey wanna go to another ark?
helena: ye ok
raia: naaaahhh

Helena and rockwell: Aberration Time

[small rune]

[vital robin]

Aberration pt 1

Santiago: super smort architect weapon designer from da future

Diana: nice pilot lady from da future

Diana: wow this ark is so nice, the sky is so blue
diana: oh wait there's a border, whatever could we possibly do to solve thi-
santiago: hey wanna nuke the station?
Diana: ye ok
Overseer: nah you die now
santiago: ok but can you not
Overseer: fine

diana: oh no the nuke broke the ark, now the bad space juice is flowing in
santiago: oopsie boopsie. check out this gigantic cave system
diana: do we have to?
santiago: the sun vaporizes you now
diana: fair enough
santiago: also all our tek gear is broken
diana: rip

Mei Yin has joined the chat

mei: hey this place looks neat
dead nerva: vaporises
mei: oh dang
mei enters the aberrant caves

rock drake: i exist
mei: can i has?
rock drake: yes but you have to steal my eg-
mei: KO tames the rock drake
rock drake: cool

mei: hey look, tek ppl
diana and crew: hey look, beast lady. wanna join?
mei: ok i guess
diana: cool
diana: wanna use tek?
mei: ok i guess
diana: cool

santiago: btw im building a gigantic portal
diana: cool
santiago: i need special ingredient in red zone
diana: k i'll go get it
mei: wait no i like you
diana: too late i already went

approximately 32.9774 minutes later

mei: what if she ded?
santiago: idk go find her ig
mei: good idea

diana: im not not alive
mei: sick
diana: hey look an entire swarm of reapers
mei: rip
mei's drake: ok i kill reapers
reaper swarm: come at me m8
mei and diana: cool, bye
diana: wait i still need secret ingredient
mei: who tf asked
diana: pretty please?
mei: fine

santiago: ok portal coming soon

in the next part, Helena and Rockwell arrive on the damaged ARK

[vital robin]

nice

[ornate hull]

Ab part 2?

[vital robin]

soon, soon

[rain dock]

I need to see the end of this jaja

[ornate hull]

Whoooooo

Can't believe your farther ahead than neddythenoodle already

[vital robin]

i mean, he makes cinematic experiences with complex body actors and talented voice acting. i type cringe dialouge

[ornate hull]

Nah bro being that cringe takes effort

You got this man

[vital robin]

Aberration pt.2

Helena: yay time for cave biology
rockwell: elementelementelementelement
seekers: hehe we exist
helena: oh dang
mei yin: seeker murder time
seekers: ok but can you not
mei: no
seekers: rip

helena: yoooo
mei: yoooo
rockwell: elementelementelementelement
mei: wanna see tek village
helena: ok i guess
mei: wanna use tek
helena: ok i guess

rockwell: elemen-ELEMENT!! ELEMENT!!!!
scientist: chill
rockwell: lemme elemen-i mean science
scientist: ok

santiago: we makin portal
helena: wait but obelisk will initiate order 66
santiago: oh dang, better turn them off
mei: les go

scientist: hey rockwell, watcha doing
rockwell: i just put pure element into my arm.
scientist:...cool

mei, san, and hel turn off the obelsik
helena: ok sweet, les head back

scientist: hey rockwell, watcha doing
rockwell: i just put pure element into my body. I AM A GOD OF PURE STRENGTH
scientist:...cool

helena: hey we back, how is everyone
diana: literally dying
mei: what happen?!?!
diana: rockwell turned into tentacle man and un-alived everyone
mei: did you ask if he could not?
diana: yes
mei: dang
diana: ded

mei yin: rockwell murder time
helena: agreed
santiago: i'm still here!

rockwell: me is god now hehe
mei: me go pew pew
rockwell: how did that even work
mei: skill issue
rockwell: oh i see
rockwell falls into the red zone

santiago: portal time

the trio arrives on the corrupted Earth of Extinction

my genesis lore needs some touching-up though

[ornate hull]

Lost island lore : the island but more monkey

[vital robin]

Aberration pt 3

Rusty: old fashioned dummy-dum student
Boris: Literal physopath student
Emilia: nice girl student
Trent: jock sterotype student
Imamu: poetry dude student

Rusty: dies
Boris, emilia, trent, imamu: oh dang
emila: dies
trent, boris, imamu: oh dang
boris: goes insane and dies
trent and imamu: oh dang
trent: dies
imamu: oh dang

imamu: oh look, rockwell
rockwell: yep
imamu: dies

[lyric tendon]

oh dang

[heavy sandal]

where skye

[vital robin]

Skye: oh ok im dreaming
Un-alives

[high fable]

Stupid lore question that i cant get off my mind
Was rockwell always crazy? Like even back on the island before he became a big thanos looking dude

[bold dove]

No, but there was clear signs.

Even though he helped Nerva and actually agreed with his motives. He felt no remorse (or at least doesn't write any) of Nerva's men dying, nor is he even concern with them.

Not 'crazy' pursay. But pretty egotistical/self centered.

[high fable]

Yeah

And he wanted human test subjects i believe?

[bold dove]

He did have some, yes.

But to be fair, they did volunteer.

[high fable]

Little rusty on the lore, but think is was for the food expirement stuff

[high fable]

Ah okie

[bold dove]

Though his first contact with Nerva was him offering slaves to Rockwell.
He didn't want them at first, but then remarked how he did regret it due to the short supply of willing test-subjects.

[high fable]

Yee

I forgot about that part

Ngl i wanna know more about rockwells lore now, hes my fav character tbh
Dont really care about anyone else other than his lore XD

[bold dove]

Watch the Survival-Stories

[high fable]

I have been ^^ there really fun!

[merry cipher]

"New cinematic story content to further expand the narrative of ARK: Survival Evolved." ?????

[ornate hull]

Ya

Nintendo is putting Mario in ark

[merry cipher]

cant wait

[teal kelp]

Maro te survivo in ar survivo evolv

[bold dove]

Don't quite me on this, but i think the switch version didn't have the tek-cave.

If that is the case, then that's probably what it is.

[merry cipher]

i'd assume so, but it's mainly the "to further expand the narrative" part that throws me off.

I'm assuming it's getting all of the features, yes, but the new content to further expand on the already existing story is. Hm.

All I can say is, I hope that same content, if brand new, is added to the other platforms as well.

[bold dove]

Well, if the tek-cave wasn't added originally to the switch version. Then "new cinematic story to further expand the narrative" would do that if they added the tek-cave.

[merry cipher]

it's the "further expand the narrative" so it just feels as though they're adding to it

again it depends on how you read it

but personally it seems like new content, which is wishful thinking. We'll see

because, my brain instantly wondered to whether or not they changed their mind about the scorched cinematic but, again, probably not, and just wishful thinking.

[bold dove]

Just then we're on the same page. Even if they did add a Scorched ascension, i'd practically be the same as The Islands, but more desert themed.

[merry cipher]

yeah exactly

but a cinematic would be better than no cinematic tbh

I just hope that, if this Is added, it's also added to the other platforms

[bold dove]

Just making sure.
Some people i've talked to about this have had.....unrealistic expectations.

[merry cipher]

yeah I don't have very high expectations of this

I mainly just want a cinematic for continuity's sake.

[small rune]

Waiting for extinction

[high fable]

Another stupid lore question
Why is rockwell so respected by everyone on the island? What did he do to get that respected

[bold dove]

He invented all of the cooking pot items

Medical brews, all the stews, mindwipes, etc

[high fable]

Ah okie

So hes master cheif on the island XD

[bold dove]

And 'he' was the only one at the time that had the recipes for these.
So everyone had to go to him if they wanted any.

[high fable]

Why do i keep thinking of the idoit sandwitch meme now-

[bold dove]

Chiefs make food taste good.
He was a chemist, making recipes that just so happen to be food into magical stews that can erase your memories.

All medicine stems from a natural resource.

Sunscreen is just a refined version of Aloe Vera innards.

[high fable]

Ah okie! Also thx m8 for awsering both my stupid 3:00am questions uvu

[bold dove]

It's only 4:50PM for me, so it's fine

[echo crane]

same

[lament ore]

Interesting...

But it relies on bailing on Earth and finding a new home instead of fixing our misdoes which is what ARKs do

[mental basin]

They didn't know which would work.

And the Gen Ship is something they could be alive to monitor.

I really enjoy it's look, too.

[lyric tendon]

i like they have 2 plans instead of 1, in case the ARKs failed its purpose

i just hate the cliffhanger about the Ab ARK being the last ARK showing up, active and still purple

[bronze turtle]

Also he’s Rockwell

So like anyone named Rockwell you think sounds smart

“Rockwell” embodiment of intelligence and stupid decisions

[teal kelp]

Fun fact: you have the nitro triangle on your profile

[turbid scarab]

Is there any lore strict ark discord servers out there??

[lyric tendon]

there is ned's discord and the ARK lore theory discord

[abstract mural]

What is that even suppose to mean? That he has money N you dont?😭

[slim bolt]

Just found out Santiago is a clone with artificial memories 🤯

[rain dock]

Lol, thats like the entire story since the start jajaja

[slim bolt]

Do you have a point?

Also, that note is on gen 2 which is hardly the beginning

[rain dock]

Finding out everyone was a clone happened on the island though

[slim bolt]

True, he became aware of it on gen 2 which I found interesting

[lyric tendon]

he only found out that he is a clone beacuse the feds told him to in his face... also trying to stop his friend from blowing up the chambers

[rain dock]

Santiago wasn't on the Gen ship until the cuts scene though

[bold dove]

He came aware cause that's the second version of him

[bold dove]

He technically was, in the notes.

[rain dock]

Wait, really?

[bold dove]

He was the ships engineer.

[rain dock]

Really?

[bold dove]

Yes

[rain dock]

Hmm, I'll have to look it up again lol

[bold dove]

Unless i'm tripping balls

[bold dove]

Also Raq, you code. Right?

[rain dock]

Yeah

[bold dove]

What language do you use?

[rain dock]

I know Java, c++, python, Javascript, sql, css, html, can get by in kotlin and c#

Although technically some of those aren't languages

[bold dove]

As someone who's new to coding and only knows "System.out.print" do you have any suggestions and tips to get started with Java?

[rain dock]

Hmm

Are you using intellij?

[bold dove]

I was using Eclipse, but was told that's shit for Java.

So now i'm currently installing Intelliji

[rain dock]

Yeah, I've heard that. Intellij is really good, there are some functionalities that let you write basic methods without actually having to write them, so it saves time

Biggest thing is to conceptually know classes really well, because that's all Java uses

C++ is usually easier to start because it doesn't need classes, but Java is that from the start

The Java docs are really nice though

[bold dove]

Any tutorials you suggest, or did you learn everything from college?

[rain dock]

Uh, I learned it from college

W3 schools has a Java tutorial though

[bold dove]

Thanks

[rain dock]

No problem

[teal kelp]

It means that I don't waste mine lmao

[abstract mural]

Damn, but I mean if bro got bread then I don't see how it's a problem 🤷

[teal kelp]

I guess you don't understand

[abstract mural]

Nah I do

You tryna clown sum1 for spending money on sumthing when in reality, he got enough money for that type of shi

[teal kelp]

Sir, I just said that nitro is a bit of a money waste, and this is a lore channel

[abstract mural]

U the one tryna talk shi first "sir"and nitro is 5 bucks, not really a waste unless u broke asf

[teal kelp]

Bro I deadass just said "fun fact: you have nitro" go back to twitter lmao

[abstract mural]

U tryna start shi with sum1 for buying nitro...like how when twitter mfs tryna start shi, pretty ironic how u tellin me to go to twitter😭 when u legit tryna start shi with sum1

[teal kelp]

I just said "fun fact: you have nitro" simply cause the guy started talkin shit first

Y know, if you start shittalking you gotta expect atleast a lil bit of backlash

[abstract mural]

He wasn't talkin shi tho...he just stated his opinion on yall convo, he never directly dissed any1 of yall so idk how that's talking "shit"

But you prob a snowflake so no wonder u took offense, smh

[teal kelp]

Lmao you get mad at me for saying what I said and then proceed to call me snowflake, bro I am leaving you alone at this point adios

[abstract mural]

I'm not mad, I'm just calling out your bullshit that's out

[teal kelp]

Nah jk

[teal kelp]

Such lore

[abstract mural]

Ofc u wouldn't leave, u one of the type of people to argue, who loves drama, like mfs on twitter🤦‍♂️

[teal kelp]

Gotta love this lore

[vital robin]

Extinction pt. 1

Santiago: hey look, it's earth now
Titans: we exist
Santiago: oh dang

santiago: mek time
santiago builds 4 meks
santiago: mei, you be pilot
mei: cool
santiago: helena, you be pilot
helena: cool
santiago: other guy, you be pilot
other guy: cool
santiago: I be pilot, cool

titans: hey we here
santiago: oh dang, meks aren't ready yet
titans: L
santiago: ok self-sacrifice time
titans: cool
santiago uses the only online mek to lure the titans away

helena: rip
other guy: ok lets leave
mei: ok

other guy: dies to titan and corrupted creatures
mei: wait, he was still here?
helena: genuienely cannot remember

helena: hey look cool building
mei: cool
helena: hey look cool glowing implant
mei: don't mess around with that
helena: too late i just put it into my arm
mei: why?
helena: idk why not. anyway time to go into a coma until you take me to the Tomb of Ascension
mei: ok but can you not
helena: is in a coma
mei: oh dang

mei: ok tomb time
helena starts ascending
titans and corrupted creatures: surprise
mei: oh dang
mei's creatures kill the corrupts but end up dying out
titans: murder time
mei: no u
mei un-alives the titans
titans: how did you even
mei: get better
titans: noted

mei: welp time to leave

[heavy sandal]

rip Takaya "Other Guy" Kazuma

[lyric tendon]

"The Other Guy"

[rain dock]

S tier as usual jaja

[vital robin]

Facts about his life:
He was there, sometimes
Brought into the story because it called for 4 Meeks but there were only 3 characters
Had no lines or notes, people forgot he was there very quickly

[heavy sandal]

sounds like we need a Kazuma focused spinoff series about the ure and feds

[vital robin]

Imagine if he was still sidelined in his own show lmao

[edgy laurel]

sounds like an Oversimplified episode, but it isn’t

[lyric tendon]

lmao i would watch that

[rain dock]

Well, there is a lot of that for a lot of characters. They story focuses on a couple main characters, and sort of ignores the rest. The ones who wrote their stories got remembered, and those that didnt write got forgotten. Happens irl too

[gloomy bolt]

Still got mixed feelings about the way Ark presents the story line of what’s going on. Everyone’s stories and notes are great lore… clearly lots of time put into the back story of everything… but how many years was this game out before they put captions on the notes… some were not legible journal entries… some were in chinese?!?

[lyric tendon]

one is chinese

not only some are illegible, others are badly translated

like Nerva's Latin notes

[vital robin]

tbh yeah, all i remember of raia'a town is some dude named grisha or smthn

[rain dock]

They have captions

[bronze turtle]

What the hell happened here

[bronze turtle]

Grisha yaeger

[gloomy bolt]

@rain dock yeah, they do now, but it wasn’t until some time after scorched earth was released when they added them… first couple years we were on our own

[gloomy bolt]

I didn’t even know Nerva’s were Latin lol… ooh more squiggles, neat pics… Roman guys with assault rifles… would be really cool if I knew what any of this meant with out googling it

[haughty salmon]

Is ATLAS a prequel to ARK: Survival Evolved?

[rain dock]

No, its a seperate game

[haughty salmon]

Seems like it, cuz it has Rock Elementals and Mythos (Basically Element).

[bold dove]

They've already confirmed years ago that they're their own separate universes.

And element crashed into Earth from a meteor in the 24th century.
Wouldn't make sense in the timeline to have element in the pirate era.

[haughty salmon]

Maybe it was retconned or they were wrong.

[bold dove]

'Or'

Atlas isn't canon

Again, they flatout stated that Atlas isn't in the ARK universe in 2018.

[gloomy bolt]

OR… they just took Ark, copied 90% of the game, then pumped a bunch of crack into the raft mechanics… now they’re in rehab ramping down the ship construction… that’s why I’m back to Ark

[bold dove]

Yep

[gloomy bolt]

Man some of the ships I made in that game… I miss how it used to be oh well Ark is awesome and better imho… except the ships…

[bold dove]

Lets hope ARK-2 will have Atlas's ship system

[lyric tendon]

I love the ship system

It's like a buildable version of Valheim's ships

[cedar plover]

Can you take clones to boss battles?

[bold dove]

Yes

[cedar plover]

Sweet thanks @bold dove

[heady lynx]

How tall is the default ark character?

[sterile compass]

i would assume 6ft or 1.82 meters

6ft is always like a default character height in most games

[ripe bridge]

But the shorter you are the smaller hit box

[lyric tendon]

i like you can reach up to 8 ft at maximum and 4ft at the minimum

[vital plume]

Question does Rockwell still have a body on earth?

[merry cipher]

There's no definitive answer on that, but we Do know that he beamed from Earth to the Genesis Ship through Arat Prime iirc. Would be cool to speculate if Arat Prime was infected with the Proliferation at some point...

[safe sentinel]

What if extinction is actually an ark since it has respawn something helana added to the ark coding

[rain dock]

Its not. Extinction is earth, that much is clear from the notes

[bold dove]

It's not.

[safe sentinel]

Then how is there respawn

[lyric tendon]

helena did it

[bold dove]

Obelisks

Helena made it that the proto-obelisks on Earth can respawn survivors.

Genesis-1 is a simulation. So respawning is bound to happen.
And Genesis-2 more or less never explains the respawning system. Possibly meaning that it's just a gameplay mechanic at that point.

[safe sentinel]

For gen 2 it's brobably the ship

[bold dove]

For?

[safe sentinel]

Respawning

[bold dove]

Issue is.
It's never mentioned in any of the HLN-A notes.

And there's no respawn protocols that we know of that're on the ship.

We know there's 'already' made clones in stasis within the escape-pods.
But those seemed more or less a one time used stasis-chambers.

Seeing also how Vin-Diesel turned off the tek-machine at the end of the ARK-2 trailer. Wildcard could be ditching the concept of respawning being canon as a whole.

[dull crypt]

I doubt the ship has respawn

If it did there would be no need for an integrated simulation for the control systems

[plain plover]

The writers forgor

[bold dove]

Forgor, or didn't intend on it.

[plain plover]

I think they just forgor

like how they forgot the make Helena matter

[merry cipher]

ARK writers with every plot point like "i forgor 💀"

[bold dove]

Forgetting indicates it was intended.
For all we know, Helena could've been intended to gain the Mei-Yin/Diana treatment.

[plain plover]

The trailer

[bold dove]

Marketing tactic to get people hyped for the new maps. But then ditch her afterwards.
Or, as a quick lore excuse to give us a companion.

[vital plume]

I ask that since his body on the ship is much different from the one he had on ab it's I believe smaller and seems to be able to do more too

[merry cipher]

It wouldn't be out of the question that he did some form of metamorphosis, but we do know it's basically the same Rockwell.

[vital plume]

It could be a clone of him or a conscious

Transfer

Still think there is a chance for Rockwell to come back if not in his courpted form maybe on the other ring as a clone

[merry cipher]

honestly I think the Rockwell arc is long ended now

it ended on a "good" note

i'd rather they didn't keep driving his character into the ground, he was fantastically written for the end of Gen2

[vital plume]

There is ways they can still explore more of his character if he came back not corrupted

[fallow sapphire]

You can only do so much with a character before anymore would just ruin them… cough cough Santiago

But like making Rockwell this huge villain then saying “lol jk nerds hes a good guy in ark 2” kinda ruins his character

[vital plume]

No he doesn't need to be a good guy or a villain more of a neutral character who could maybe find out what he became and two different paths can form from that

He wasn't a villain in the lore of Island at the beginning just a scientist

[merry cipher]

I agree, but also creating AUs for Rockwell postgame as a clone is still interesting imo.

He wouldn't be a "good guy", but if he were uncorrupted and, actually a guy who remembered who, or rather what he was, including how he died, then he'd probably mainly feel a sense of trauma towards it, which makes for interesting character insight.

Especially as he was, canonically, afraid the whole time (confirmed by himself and HLN-A, as well as Helena directly.)

Rockwell would never be a "good man", but he would still be human, and that was pretty well-explored in the end scene of Gen2. But I do absolutely agree that making him into this sudden good guy would feel like his entire development was ultimately redundant and that he wouldn't face the proper consequences of his actions like that.

[merry cipher]

And yeah, big agree here. Santiago got the shit end of the stick and was revived for some goddamn reason when they could've just made Vin Diesel into his own new character. I understand that it's to show off the false memory aspect of the clones on the Genesis ship and ARKs, but the fact that they used Santiago, a character who had died and was incredibly heroic and served his purpose (with his own great character development through Aberration and Extinction), just feels almost.. disrespectful to the character, I guess. It's like Earth and the happenings on Extinction were shoved aside in favour of ARK 2.

(apologies for the wall of text, ARK has just been on the brainrot again, especially that Gen2 ending.)

[fallow sapphire]

i can technically see them bringing back Rockwell and it be fine, though i really dont want it, but the way they did Santiago just constantly frustrates me

[merry cipher]

fucking same

[fallow sapphire]

all good, i completely understand lol

[merry cipher]

It's why ARK 2 just makes me angry whenever I see it.

[fallow sapphire]

im excited for ark 2, less for ark 2's story

[merry cipher]

I want to feel excited. I want this company to succeed and take my money. But as someone who has stuck with the lore for so long, seeing its story be retconned so hard just frustrates me.

[fallow sapphire]

yeah, it is extraordinarily frustrating

[merry cipher]

It's, even more frustrating when most others are just fine with it too

everyone's entitled to their own opinions but i'm here like "you DON'T see this shit????"

feeling like fucking, always sunny pepe silvia scene rambling like a madman

[fallow sapphire]

i would be all for ark 2 if they didnt have to destroy the beauty of extinctions ending to do it

[merry cipher]

literally

And also. Why the fuck are we on a new planet

Wasn't the literal goal of ARK to fix, and ultimately return, to Earth?

We did that. Why was that plot point utterly ignored for the sake of giving ARK 2 a story?

[fallow sapphire]

because money

[merry cipher]

true but, even then, they could've made a plot point on earth

[fallow sapphire]

totally agree there

[merry cipher]

We will NEVER see Arat Prime.

And that is, so disappointing.

[fallow sapphire]

we will never get to experience regenerated earth

[merry cipher]

Literally.

[fallow sapphire]

we got 5 seconds from the cutscene

[merry cipher]

We won't get to experience the accomplishment from that. The ending of Extinction is just "lol congration you done it" AND THEN WE'RE ON ANOTHER PLANET AFTER GENESIS???

[fallow sapphire]

yeah, its annoying

[merry cipher]

I, wish I had a bigger creative drive and motivation. I'd love to start my redesigning ARK stuff sooner, but motivation is so hard to achieve at this point, so it's hell

[fallow sapphire]

i feel that

[merry cipher]

also remembering how good the concept of Gen2 was, and how rushed it felt in the end. But the tek structures were so well-made and now they're apparently ditching tek for ARK II and i just . Dies

by god i wish i wasn't so enthusiastic about ARK's lore so these things wouldn't bug me so hard but they do because i love the worldbuilding of this silly dinosaur game

[bold dove]

I see it, and i'm 50/50 split on it.
On one hand, it wasn't necessary to bring him back at all. Vin-Diesel i don't mind, but it's bringing back a old character that completed their story already is the shitty part.
But on the other hand for me. Retcons have sometimes turned out good, and if not better.
We do have to remember that this is the first title in a possibly long lasting series.
The first games are usually the most retconned in long lasting games.

[merry cipher]

I'm aware, but at the same time I'm still wary as they retconned an already great story so hard. I, really struggle to see how they could fix this stuff honestly.

It hoenstly didn't need retconning...

[bold dove]

I know.
And that's why i'm 50/50 split.
Fallout 1 had a great story for its time.
But Fallout-2 retconned that vault-tec where actually evil corporate assholes that experimented on people within these vaults. Which added a new layer for vaults within the universe.
If i have to think of the positive possibilities for Santiago coming back. Is that A: a wider audience will actually know he exists now. B: To possibly give him a chance to be a mentor for the new protagonist.

[merry cipher]

I guess, but again, it could've been much easier for them to just establish a new character, as that's basically what they've been doing...

[bold dove]

It could've also been Vin's choice.
He could've liked the character, but wanted him to last longer.

[merry cipher]

Rather than a retcon, a sequel for ARK could've rather done with some more ingame insight on the federation/republic expressed on Earth, not "ooga booga back to primitive vin diesel time on avatar ripoff planet"

We... really don't need Element polluting more planets...

That was the whole story of ARK, to fix Earth due to the damage Element had caused.

[vital plume]

Asteroid hitting the new planet go brr

And its full of ele

[merry cipher]

except the asteroid is now a giant spaceship with high amounts of element go brrrr

[bold dove]

Personally, i think element has too many unanswered questions to be let go.

[merry cipher]

Exactly. But now we're apparently doing that because ARK 2 is "Tek free"?????

[vital plume]

Yeah seeing its a hivemind and there is a lot of it in the RING THAT ABOVE THE PLANET

[merry cipher]

Like what ass-backwards logic is it to ditch tek and a lot of themes of element when we've barely scratched the surface of it???

[bold dove]

Tek =/= element

[merry cipher]

But tek still utilizes element heavily.

[vital plume]

It will most likely come back element

[bold dove]

You can still have oil without factories.

[vital plume]

as a plot point since it still exists in space

we didn't get rid of it

[merry cipher]

I hope it'll come back, and I hope we won't have Rockwell 3 Electric Boogalee

[bold dove]

Element is both an item and a story element.
"No tek" could be removing element as an 'item' but not as a story point

[merry cipher]

Rockwell had a very good arc as a villain. Ffs, don't draw it out further than it needs to be

[vital plume]

But I'm hoping those new "villains" though don't use some kind of dumb space magic

[merry cipher]

True.

oh absolutely but we have fucking orcs in ark 2 so i wouldn't be surprised

[bold dove]

Like, they look like orcs.
But doesn't mean they are 'literally' orcs

[merry cipher]

of course but damn do they look like orcs

[vital plume]

I like tek over the dumb space magic

They are doing something shady I believe with that gas in the trailer if I remember correctly

[merry cipher]

oh same, I think tek is a very good theme in ARK that separates it from other survival/dinosaur games.

[bold dove]

ARK has always had fantasy based elements with a twist of sci-fi.
So, orcs that aren't orcs in ARK isn't a big shocker. Personally.

[merry cipher]

The fantasy in ARK always felt like it stood out beyond the actual science fiction and not in a good way.

[vital plume]

Apocalyptic sci fi?

[merry cipher]

The awesome aspect of giant laser-harvesting robots or a semi-mechanical ice jet wyrm is ultimately overshadowed because there's dragons and wyverns and griffins and teleporting space whales.

[vital plume]

But I feel like if Rockwell does come back he needs to be a normal human and know what happened to him

knows*

[merry cipher]

Granted, Astrocetus does originate in the simulation, but it exists physically on the Genesis ship.

[merry cipher]

oh absolutely, perhaps not canonically but as an AU/headcanon it would be THE perfect punishment.

[vital plume]

The whale just lives in space and probably was simulated into the simulation

[merry cipher]

yeah but a big teleporting space whale would Not be possible with real world logic

of course element can do wacky things but

a teleporting whale in space feels. out of the question

Don't get me wrong, element should have a fantastical theme to it, but it shouldn't go too ape shit with it. Leave the ape shit-ness to Rockwell, an actual madman with too much power.

[vital plume]

My only question for the lore is wtf the survivor be doing up in that exo mek in space

[merry cipher]

oh yknow. vibing

got that wheatley ending

but if we're talking canonically, they probably landed on the new planet

[vital plume]

So we have an exo mek on the NON TEK WORLD HERE EHH?

[merry cipher]

the exo mek probably magically vanishes and is never brought up again

[vital plume]

if it does that is a plot hole

[merry cipher]

tfw they retcon something they made like 2 years ago

[bold dove]

Everything element based is out of the question

[vital plume]

since it uses ele was powered before landing most likely

[merry cipher]

ARK is a plot hole in and of itself