lore-nerdz

[bronze turtle]

Yes

Hes executive producer

And is playing as Santiago 4.0

[lyric tendon]

But it is face-shaped

[bold dove]

And so does a lard of fat if you shape it right.

[lyric tendon]

That's not how feline/fish anatomy works

[gusty turret]

Are you a marine biologist or something?

[lyric tendon]

There are many benefits ||to binge watch fish butchering videos||

[bronze turtle]

[bronze turtle]

Explain the lore i havent seen or got a single note

[lyric tendon]

strange organic metal from space destroyed the moon and landed on earth

people made Tek out of the strange organic metal

Tek people started Tek war

tek war made pollution that caused corruption

Tek people call truce and made ARKs and the gen ship to save humanity

[bronze turtle]

Funny space rock, big war, big spaceships, nuke, liquid space rock, tentacle monster, godzilla, robot companion, vin diesal, alien planet

[lyric tendon]

yes... din diecel out pizza the hut to defeat king titan with family

[bronze turtle]

Din diesal?

[lyric tendon]

yes.... din diecel

[unborn beacon]

Don't forget
Brainslugs and egomaniacs

[bronze turtle]

No

[ornate hull]

Dim diesel who resides in the dimsdale dimidome

[vast cloud]

Can someone slide me a steam account with ark? All of my friends with to play modded servers but I cant join since i have the epic games version. I cant get the game myself since steam doesnt support my countrys currency

[gusty turret]

That is such amazing lore

I must've missed that in the notes

[bronze turtle]

I just found that note a second ago

it's near the Nameless dossier in the blue zone on Ab

[bronze turtle]

Ayo what exactly is the voidwyrm? Is it another creation of Rockwell or is it Santiago's? Bc Santiago made the sryders

[bold dove]

They're made from the other crewmates.
They act as sentries outside.

[bronze turtle]

Crewmates? On a spaceship? No....

[bold dove]

Hardy har har (you son of a b-)
ANYway.
Yes, Santiago wasn't the 'only' person that knew how to do shit.

[plain plover]

it's confusing the role he played in the 2400s because at that point in technological level, any of the trans-humans should have been able to massively outpace him in the I.Q. department

even then why couldn't they just make a bunch of Santiago clones and make their brains into a super computer that has a giant Mek body that may or may not be the second to final boss of Tek Tier Rising that has the song "Collective Consciousness" as its boss music

[bronze turtle]

They only have Santiago memories so they only know what Santiago know and cant get much smarter

[plain plover]

yes, but everyone else could have gotten much smarter, that's the point of cybernetics

other then outputting enough force to suplex metal gears

Santiago is supposed to be like an embassador of the Federation on the Genesis project, but he's a clone of a dead person, which the Federation is against? what?

we only see him coming up with the stryders as his big contribution, it was the other guy's job to make the warp drive

[sly plover]

Oh God so much lore

[tender wasp]

I see what you wanna say and it makes sense. Santiago in the Gen 2 notes feels much dumber than the one on Abs/Ext and Uma (the Transhuman Lady) seems to know a lot more than the Gen 2 Santiago and is superior to him in many ways, so they would not even need Santiago at all when you can have another Uma instead.
He does not even do much to help the ship at all and only tiptoes behind Uma like a little dog and as a treat is allowed to make the stryder to keep little doggo happy.

[teal kelp]

rockwell gaming

[lyric tendon]

not canon

[mental basin]

Omg this is so important to the lore

[bronze turtle]

Survivor gaming

[bright basalt]

HLN-A gaming

[bronze turtle]

Santiago gaming

[teal kelp]

Helena Gaming

[bronze turtle]

Diana gaming

[bold dove]

Rockwell and HLN-A can't game anymore. 👀

[plain plover]

[gusty turret]

i bet Rockwell would love fortnite

[bold dove]

Yes, cause of all the small minded "willing" subjects that the community has.

[gusty turret]

oOoO give me your mothers credit card number and i will buy you free skins

i was thinking more just because he could commit mass murder

but the easily corruptable children is also a good point

[bold dove]

Corrupt children?
Nah boi. Children aren't great fodders. I'd know.
They're great for spreading your biomass though. 👀

[gusty turret]

children are great fodders

theres a lot of them and they make a lot of noise

[bold dove]

Nah, they cry and scream too much to be useful for fighting.
They also easily panic.

All they're good for is to go into the primordial soup.

[gusty turret]

that's why theyd be useful for fighting theyd disorient their opponents

prey on the weakness of most people to protect children

[bronze turtle]

Is story good

[bronze turtle]

The most important part

[ornate hull]

Quick lore question

Why did wc make the sinos so god dam cute

[bold dove]

Since they're only on a Custom-ARK. They're most likely aren't canon.

[ember solar]

they are in cannon limbo since them existing would not effect the lore so it is possible but also there is also no reason that they have to exist either

[ornate hull]

Never said they were cannon I asked why wildcard made em cute

[ember solar]

cute is subjective

[bronze turtle]

Lost island at least isnt canon. Maewings and r varients couldn't be on the map

[solemn belfry]

brooo I remember this

i remember you Matt and mazzy

I used to be active in lore nerdz all the time before gen 2 release

[bronze turtle]

What did gen2 do?

[bold dove]

"lore question"

[bold dove]

Santiago's notes counteract some of the previous established lore.

Where before Genesis 2 (even Genesis 1 stated this) the URE and Terran Federation where fighting due to political views on element.
The URE thought that element should be a free resource, while the Feds wanted to Tax the hell out of it.
But then Genesis 2 came around and changed it to "Hippies fighting the Military. Aka URE vs Feds."

[ornate hull]

I see your point

[bronze turtle]

in the lore Sinomacrops are cute

[tender wasp]

The more accurate sino is cute, the Ark sino looks like giga chad in dino form.

[bronze turtle]

lmao

[lyric tendon]

🇾 🇪 🇸

usually i compared it to a muppet

[bronze turtle]

the Sinomacrops looks like someone took a Dimorphodon and then shoved it's snout onto the concrete and called it a new creature

[solemn belfry]

nothing, I love gen 2 lol
I was always active here cause I was hyped for it

every Monday, Wednesday and Friday we’d get a new reveal, it was sick

[fallow sapphire]

The good ol’ days lol

[teal kelp]

I remember you

[bronze turtle]

Buscando gente para un server de rol llamado barlak nos lo pasamos muy bien y el rol es estupendo

[fallow sapphire]

Not at all the right channel mate

[bronze turtle]

So URE sounds like good guys

[solemn belfry]

daaamn, long time no see sk8

[fallow sapphire]

How ya been?

[solemn belfry]

I’ve been ight, what about you?

[fallow sapphire]

Not to shabby

[bronze turtle]

How do u tax iron irl?

[bronze turtle]

Well I mean santiago works for terran federation.

[solemn belfry]

back in the good days, where we used to wait for gen2 reveals and be hella active here

best time of the year

[bronze turtle]

Genesis 1 was basically tranzit

Think about it

[fallow sapphire]

Hoping this place get bustling again closer we get to ark 2

[ornate hull]

I wish they'd put raptor Claus below the world border so I can harass it

[fallow sapphire]

You are probably the reason he isnt below the border

[solemn belfry]

i love gen 2, alot of people don't but i love it

[fallow sapphire]

It has its ups and downs

I still dont agree with bringing Santiago back, and I was disappointed by the “story” missions

[bronze turtle]

Mostly pvp Bob's who dont

[bronze turtle]

And santiago 2.0 being brought back made sense. But itd ruin his character

[fallow sapphire]

I can understand vindiago coming back after his death, but bringing back Santiago after his sacrifice on extinction was just wrong

[bronze turtle]

Ja

[forest rose]

What is the story of the santuary in Ark: Extinction?

[bronze turtle]

What do you mean exactly?

[forest rose]

Such as, why was it built weith the other domes?

[bronze turtle]

It was a normal city

Where the first element meteor crashed

[bronze turtle]

It was there long before the domes

[forest rose]

Ah

[bronze turtle]

The obelisk is to give an invisible shield that protects it from metoeors

[forest rose]

Is there any lore behind the titans?

[bronze turtle]

Yes

[forest rose]

What is it?

[bronze turtle]

They are essentially generals of the king titan
They ravaged URE buildings

[forest rose]

So, the Titans came to earth and basically destroyed it with the element then the arks became a thing?

[bronze turtle]

Your on the right path

[forest rose]

Excellent

[bronze turtle]

The element made the titans pretty sure

[bronze turtle]

And the genesis ship

[forest rose]

Ah yes, the colony ship

Forgot about that

[bronze turtle]

They were built by differrent faction so yeah

[forest rose]

Hm

[bronze turtle]

Yes

[forest rose]

I found the answer

[bronze turtle]

Thought so

Any more?

Why is aberration surface so hot what's the point of the overseer doing that

[fallow sapphire]

Its not, the overseer is destroyed

The tek tribe blew up the overseer arena, destroying the forcefield protecting the ark from the sun, and destroying the original overseer

[bold dove]

It's not just a iron. It's also a fuel.

[bronze turtle]

Ik

[errant ocean]

Hi. I have owned a copy of Ark for many years but idk how to play it. Can anyone teach me and maybe have a world or whatver its called with me? Reply to this message and ill add u.

[bronze turtle]

I thought u meant taxing as in they take the element from u 😂

[bronze turtle]

Wrong chat

[errant ocean]

what chat then

[bronze turtle]

General or ark

[errant ocean]

k

[forest rose]

What is the tek tribe?

[bronze turtle]

The tribe diana made that nuked aberration

[forest rose]

Did they have the Reapers?

[bronze turtle]

No

[bronze turtle]

Nope

All the people who got it died

[forest rose]

Nice

[lyric tendon]

and they dont respawn because that's before Helena tampered the ARKs

[teal kelp]

King titan gaming

[tired osprey]

Case #18941 @tiny hawk has been muted for 1 hour.
Reason: Posting a unauthorised Discord invite link

[ornate hull]

After 4 years of playing ark I finally beat the overseer legit

[bronze turtle]

Congrats

[fallow sapphire]

Ay congrats!

[warped herald]

Yo congrats

[bronze turtle]

so what was the purpose of the scorched earth ark in the grand skeem of things

[fallow sapphire]

Same purpose as the rest of the arks, just a different idea on how to get people to survive

[bronze turtle]

So what was its purpose in relation to the corrupted earth

[bronze turtle]

Same as the other ones. To purge element

[fallow sapphire]

Each ark plays a big role of eliminating element once the element levels lower enough for them to do such

[mental basin]

People seem to shit on Gen 2 because new writer and "Waah Vin Diesel".

I thought it was pretty good.

Some disagree.

[bronze turtle]

aunt may dies in no way home

[lyric tendon]

most*

the map is good ||for new players||
but objectively bad lorewise

[bronze turtle]

I liked gen2 for the gameplay but the story could use a LOT of work

[lyric tendon]

Not canon, too much self insert literally unrelated to ARK

[fallen smelt]

U didn’t have to cut me off

[mental basin]

Make out like it never happened and that we were nothing
And I don't even need your love
But you treat me like a stranger and that feels so rough

No, you didn't have to stoop so low
Have your friends collect your records
And then change your number
I guess that I don't need that though

Now you're just somebody that I used to know

[gusty turret]

Im gonna dm you something that isn't an nft

[bronze turtle]

you better not

[placid lily]

someone teach me ark lore

[tender wasp]

go to pins, click the links to the explorer notes, read them and you will learn about lore.

[placid lily]

ty

[bronze turtle]

Does anybody else here think island and aberration were the best arks lorewise

[lyric tendon]

ARK would've ended in Ext tbh

[mental basin]

ARK-wise my opinion is Aberration, but Extinction is even more important.

[blazing ruin]

I made a new server for me and a few friends to go back to the first map, to focus on the story of ark

And work our way through all the maps

[idle rampart]

i am interested but sadly finals are coming 😦

[gusty turret]

Who needs finals when you have Ark lore

With enough plotholes to consume the sun whole

[bronze turtle]

No

The whole universe

[arctic bison]

the enterity of existence

[bronze turtle]

Finals has potholes

[ember solar]

wtf is that username

also this is the lore channel not the trading one

[granite basalt]

there isnt a trading one

[plain plover]

well then why did you pick the lore one

PvP or PvE discussion is where you might find something

[ornate hull]

Can you pick up wild adolescent dinos with a maewing

[bronze turtle]

No

Also this isnt lore based

[native hawk]

@granite basalt#800537680784916501#800538567122092053 Please keep chat on topic 🙂

[granite basalt]

oh ok

[worthy atlas]

Hey so uh I was fighting Overseer and noticed something

In the area where the supply crates go down the crates go down much faster than they do outside of the arena

Why?

[arctic bison]

overseer arena logic

[lyric tendon]

that strange ARK artificial atmosphere

[gusty turret]

Because supply drops aren't canon

Its just a gameplay feature

At least that is the reasonable deduction because they aren't mentioned in any notes

[idle rampart]

well talking about it on gen 2

[bold dove]

This is a fair point. And i would think this also.
But they physically appear in the physical Hall-of-History. Which is intended for 'lore' purposes.
Personally, what is show in-game for lore bits is more important then what is in the notes that where made at the last second.

And the notes and in-game universe have always had inconsistency.
Not the gameplay vs in-universe talk. I more mean in-game lore vs note lore.

[gusty turret]

Yeah that's fair I'm still not willing to take it at face value though unless its absolutely confirmed by wildcard that they're canon

[bold dove]

True. But i don't think it would've been in the hall-of-history if it wasn't.

[native hawk]

They are never mentioned in notes

[bold dove]

And?

[native hawk]

I wonder why they wouldn't be

[bold dove]

If you read my points above.

[ember solar]

I think having random loot dropping from the sky would push Helenas artificial environment theory forward a lot faster

[bold dove]

Yes, i know.
But my point is the fact that there's inconsistency between in-game lore, and note lore.
Not saying they 'are' solidly canon. But it's odd that they would bother adding them to the hall-of-history. One of the few moments in the series that they take the lore as the priority, over gameplay. 👀

[ember solar]

Maybe another gift from homo deus Helena

Phone autocorrect moment

Not much proof for anything though so just theories

[bold dove]

Maybe. But it's odd that she literally then made a whole room and stretched out the hall-of-history on 'all' ARK's just for that.
That would also indicate that she can interact a lot more then she can currently with the physical world. Which then would kind of defy the point of why Helena didn't do anything to Rockwell being on the Genesis-ship and requiring 'us' to stop him. 👀

[bold dove]

Basically, a good portion of ARK's lore.

[native hawk]

My theory is the drops happened sometime after our survivors ascended

They do still drop from the Starlit Sanctuary

[ember solar]

I mean maybe she can’t directly interact with objects but can send orders to the arks since if overseers are originally part homodeus then the ark system should be able to work with them, rockwell having as much control as he does over the genesis ship can lock out Helena since maybe being physically there he can have easier control over it

[native hawk]

reason for that theory is that you would think Helena- a Paleontologist and Rockwell- a Philosopher would mention something like that - but I still think they are canon in a way

[bold dove]

Yeah, it's pretty odd.
Again, like i said. There's some janky inconsistency with the lore, sometimes.

[native hawk]

its like how the other ARK's are canon even though our heroes never went there

"if a tree falls and no one is around to hear it"

[bold dove]

Genesis-2 doesn't help either. With making the cause of the Tek-War due to Trans-humans not liking what humans where doing.
While in Extinction, it was due to politics.

[bronze turtle]

What?

The first point with gen2

[bold dove]

Read Santiago's notes in Genesis-2

[bronze turtle]

Ok

[bronze turtle]

Now I'm so confused

Santiago beat me up on Lost Island and then rid away on a Microraptor

and then Mei Yin followed me to Scorched to cheat kill me and then force tame an Ammonite and ride away on it

[vital robin]

ah yes, lore

[gusty turret]

*rode both times

[bronze turtle]

I'm just saying what was in the Valguero explorer notes

[bronze turtle]

Lagging is canon

[karmic juniper]

I agree

[mental basin]

That's
No

First of all, what Santiago stated in Extinction was a theory, seeing as he can't tell due to everyone being long gone.
Second of all, if my memory serves me correctly the war was started over Element and how it was being used.

Two differing sides with clashing goals and morals.

Which, when it boils down to it, is pretty much politics.

[bronze turtle]

Helena Walker drowning and burning to death and then falling to the ground after Nerva bred too many dinos

[bronze turtle]

Yeah

[bronze turtle]

Wouldnt crashing be canon?

[gusty turret]

a game theory

[ember solar]

is being crowded by ichthy's and drowing because you can't get to the surface cannon

[bronze turtle]

Wait how did magmas get to GENSIM if they were originally schorched creature

[bold dove]

A: the data of a creature can be simulated. Like how we have cows and deers in video-games.
B: The chronicles notes are probably only semi-canon.

[bronze turtle]

Ya bit how could it get to the genesis ship?

[bold dove]

Magmasaurs aren't on the ship.

Atleast to our knowledge.

[bronze turtle]

No but GENSIM is

[bold dove]

Again, they can exist in a simulation. Due to just being data.

What's your point?

[bronze turtle]

Gensim is too far away

[teal kelp]

Ahem, summoner summonings

[bold dove]

Wait, are you asking how a originally a URE animal is on a Terran Federation ship?

[bold dove]

Wait.....the fuck?

Are they in the summoner summonings?

[teal kelp]

Pretty sure yes

[bronze turtle]

I assume it goes with the whole both teams using each other rescorces

[bold dove]

Screenshot, or it didn't happen. 👀

[bronze turtle]

Only way

The ship has a link to arat prime right? Like a link that is faster then light itself?

[bold dove]

That, and also the ARK's and the Genesis-ship where launched at the same time. So they could've shared each others data.

[teal kelp]

You can check the wiki and check all of the things the summoner can summon

[bronze turtle]

Only logical conclusion

[bold dove]

The magmasaurs could've originally been on Scorched like HLN-A stated. But where too damgerous for the original purposes of the ARK's. So they gave the data for their genes and whatnot to the Genesis-ship to preserve it.

[bold dove]

It has a transfer terminal there, yes.

[bronze turtle]

"Too dangerous" on the same ark that has fucking dragons.but I assume the magmas were always there as teh wyverns werent

[bold dove]

Wyverns weren't on Scorched when it was first deployed

[bronze turtle]

Ik

They were released as a punishment

[bold dove]

The ARK's where actually much safer in their earlier years. And where also meant to preserve life like the Genesis-ship. But also act as a testing grounds on the side.

[bronze turtle]

But I dont get how they were too dangerous if magmas would do a better job at the goals of wyverns

[bronze turtle]

Weird

This shit is confusing

[bold dove]

It's due to the ARK's being in orbit for thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of years. Longer then they where designed for.
So the overseers on them started to malfunction over time. And made the testings a more higher priority basically. Which involved killing more survivors.

@teal kelp Also, i can't find anything on the wiki saying that they summon magmasaurs.

[bronze turtle]

Where is this found?

[bold dove]

The One Who Waits

She states that the ARK's where never intended to stay in orbit for this long. And their age is causing them to go basically rampant.

[queen needle]

It's like a pc from 20 years ago it slowly deteriorates

[noble flint]

yep, the overseers (homo-deus) minds began to crumble, they pretty much made the arks harder and tried to prevent players from ascending, if it weren't for the portal on aberration, nobody would have ever got back to earth.

[lyric tendon]

so the homo deus gained so much information, they start to go insane?

[bold dove]

Basically.

Or so emotionless that they just didn't care anymore.

[lyric tendon]

that is more accurate when Helena becomes monotone when we met her in ext

[bold dove]

I would 'hope' it's accurate. Due to it being in the lore.

But to be fair. Extinction isn't accurate either. So what do i know?

[lyric tendon]

i see the ending as post helena like a big timeskip between the author's time on earth and us transfering from ab

[bold dove]

What does that have to do with accuracy, if i may ask?

[lyric tendon]

I dunno, my brain is too tired to explain

[thorn sierra]

I have two questions for everyone here

Number one is does anyone remember me? I was one if the og's along with spartan008

Number two is that who was the very first survivor?

On the very first ark

I know all of the lore except that

[bronze turtle]

It could be anyone

[thorn sierra]

So that's a no?

[bronze turtle]

No

Exactly how safe were the arks originally? What was the first sucessful ark?

[bold dove]

You wouldn't be smitted down with fucking wyverns. That's for sure.

[stray knoll]

It was some one from so long ago that all humans weren't even comprised of players yet.

[fallow sapphire]

Ay welcome back!

[noble flint]

im not sure how much of this is explained in the lore, as far as I know we donlt know who the first human was on the arks, but it was likely a big group of people. We do know the arks have been going for a long time. Extinction states the arks are on cycle 600 and something I believe, most people think this is 600 and something years, but it could be longer

[bronze turtle]

Is the ability to make element on aberration canon? And if do how could putting differrent colored gems and other thing make a substance clearly established to be alive?

[ornate hull]

Saying how in lore they just had to go down into the rad zone and puck it up I don't think so

[fallow sapphire]

I mean it could be, you are using element ore. Maybe using all these other substances just gives it a more useable form

[karmic juniper]

Lag is canon

[gusty turret]

You've already said this

[fair jasper]

Is the overseer the one who puts all the loot into the supply crates?

[noble flint]

yes

overseer controls everything that isnt automatic, like creatures that cant reproduce for example

so next time you get 7 medium crop plot blueprint in a row, you know hes messing with you

[fair jasper]

Well it deserves to have its ass beat for all the trash it puts in the drops

[fallow sapphire]

yeah next time i face the overseer i am bringing all my medium crop plot blueprints with me

[noble flint]

4 sure

[thorn sierra]

Thank you so much

[fallow sapphire]

long time no see, how ya been?

[thorn sierra]

I've been good hbu?

I've just been grinding on gen 2 and lost island

[fallow sapphire]

Back on the island and lost island myself, been having a blast on both

[coral lotus]

Respawning wasnt a thing in the Arks. If people died, they died.
But the new Fjordhawk dossier says respawning is a thing?

[bold dove]

A: dossiers of custom-ark creatures aren't canon.
B: They are a thing 'now.' Since Helena changed the ARK's to be able to force survivors to respawn.

[bronze turtle]

dossiers of custom dinos aren't canon

I wouldn't imagine dossiers in of themselves are canon either

Helena mentioned the Broodmother digging through the ground and forming all the caves even though I doubt that happened and the caves were just there

[heavy sandal]

helena made fanfiction of the ark critters

[bronze turtle]

Helena is weird

that's why she's only in 6 maps

[bold dove]

4

[bronze turtle]

she's on the Island and Scorched

not just Aberration and Extinction

[bold dove]

Island, Scorched, Aberration, Extinction.
That's 4 maps.

Where's the other 2?

[bronze turtle]

I mean

she was in the trailer of Gen1

[bold dove]

HLN-A doesn't count.

[bold dove]

4/5

[bronze turtle]

yeah she was in 4

[bold dove]

Yeah. Don't know where the other two came from. 👀

[bronze turtle]

HLMA

[bold dove]

I wouldn't count her.

[bronze turtle]

yeah she isn't Helena

just the personality of her

[bold dove]

That's like giving birth to a child without a spouse and saying "this organism i have gave birth to is me, since i have created it." 👀

[bronze turtle]

it's more like bacteria because there wasn't anyone else involved it was just Helena making a little person to help on Genesis

[bold dove]

Ye.
But even that's being different between the two.

[bold dove]

Asexual reproduction, basically.

[bronze turtle]

different beings

[bold dove]

Like, even personality wise, not gonna lie.
Helena is kind of dank and depressing now. Only talks in a monotone voice.
While HLN-A is hyper active. 👀

👀
👄

[lyric tendon]

was until she changed her VA

HD Helena is extra depressed HLNA

[bronze turtle]

hlna was made by Helena when she was a homo deus to help guide the survivor through the genesis simulation

why are we talking about her giving birth to it

you can see hlna being made in the gen1 trailer as well

[lyric tendon]

the trailer wasnt count as lore canon as the trailer for ARK 1, helena is riding a raptor and killed a bob for some reason

most trailers are just showcases

[teal kelp]

Cuz people here are horny mfs

[bronze turtle]

I could see the ark one trailer not being counted as lore but the gen1 and gen2 trailers all entwine with the story

[lyric tendon]

most of the Gen lore is focused on the ship and the people more than just HLNA

none of the other authors in the Gen saga aside from HLNA knew about Helena anyways

[bronze turtle]

yea but hlna is still a major part in terms of saving the ship

[lyric tendon]

not really Nida made/tamper the code that separated the rings, its up to you and HLNA to trigger it

i barely read gen 2 thoroughly enough because its bland and unmemorable as heck so that's all what i've know so far

HLNA kinda removes the feel of curiosity for me until the Terminatus and Code Red Mission

as she asked the question what we as a human clone fresh from the chamber should be asking and she was just there just to banter with Rockwell

[hasty creek]

Hlna did that 1 thing

[winged vault]

So Is rockwell the main antagonist

[lyric tendon]

more or less, the real antagonist is element itself

[arctic bison]

the precious edmundium

[winged vault]

ooh poetic

[bronze turtle]

Helena was depressed?

she always seemed happy in the notes tbh idk what you're talking about

[lyric tendon]

sounds

in the notes, she was an energetic human, her tone is different when she became homodeus

[bronze turtle]

well that makes sense

didn't like almost all the Homo Deus go insane

[lyric tendon]

not to mention she was in the verge of dying before she become homodeus

[bronze turtle]

yeah that'll do it

[gusty turret]

Not to my knowledge, they just faded from existence

[bronze turtle]

lmao

[gusty turret]

They were made into marketable plushies

[noble flint]

nah its mentioned that their minds begin to crumble, which is why the ark systems are failing (Its heavily implied that the homodeus are the overseers) dying and respawning in an infinite cycle will do that to your sanity, the same thing sorta happened with rockwell

[lyric tendon]

this kinda make me think that respawning is indeed cannon but its not "in your face" like Gen 2 has

the overseers (and Rockwell do respawn) but in exchange for mental sanity (basically like us as survivors), granted ''pre-Homo Deus Helena'' Survivors like Nerva, Sasha, and the Students only lived once

[bronze turtle]

It is

[bold dove]

Respawning 'is' canon. The One Who Waits explains this.

[bronze turtle]

Ya

Diana is the first person to respawn

[bold dove]

You could say she "respawned again."

[bronze turtle]

Stop

[bold dove]

[bronze turtle]

Someone should make a one who waits note that explains lag as a joke

[gusty turret]

Do you think if a Homodeus' name was written in the death note it would die

Or would it be immune to that

[bronze turtle]

Homodeus cant die

[bold dove]

They can't die with any means we 'know' of.
They can't be physically harm, nor can they harm us.
But since they're beings of pure energy. Energy if i recall right 'can' be disbursed to destroy itself. So theoretically, they 'can' die. But it would be a pain in the ass, and wouldn't be worth it unless they're a antagonist.

[bronze turtle]

Only way a homodeus could die is if the energy turns into somthing else

Even then

[bold dove]

Which theoretically could be possibly.

[bronze turtle]

Energy can't be outright destroyed

[bold dove]

Imagine fucking putting Helena in a battery as punishment. 👀

Fucking ghostbusters this shit.

[bronze turtle]

That battery would probably have infinite energu

Oh no, homodeus powered energy

[bold dove]

Even if they can't die. Energy can still be trapped. Which would be the second best thing.

[bronze turtle]

True, but death note dosent trap if I recall

[bold dove]

Okay, yeah. Energy can't be destroyed, and i remember now (The law of conservation of energy)
So yeah, a Death-note wouldn't work. But a ghost-trap would.

[bronze turtle]

The ghost trap would be a pain in the ass to program.

So it would only be worth it if a homodeus does somthing really bad

Would the arks be real land or artificially created
What I mean is did they use land from the real earth and augmented it? Or is it 100% fake. We know the arks can augment themselves as seen with the wyvern trench on schorched earth.

[lyric tendon]

Arent the overseers already has HDs as "batteries" at the same time as the "data"

[bold dove]

Basically.

But they're not trapped in them.

[gusty turret]

That's the Guantanamo bay for Homodeus

[plain plover]

Isn’t that what you canonically do in subnautica

[bold dove]

Do what in Subnautica?

[hasty creek]

Swim

[gusty turret]

Im assuming you're talking about the ion batteries?

In which case, no, not at all, that is very much just mini nukes powering stuff

To out current knowledge all the precursors on the planet are extinct

In below Zero we find the consciousness of one in ruins snd it gets uploaded into out characters brain, and we have to make him a new vessel, but there is no putting "gods" in batteries

[plain plover]

I still have a wide knowledge of the subnautica lore, and so don’t know what has been decanonized. I remember for a long time there was a theory that precursor consciousness were stored in the ion crystals, that’s why they were propped up on pedestals

[gusty turret]

That is not what i remember but it's entirely possible

But in below zero their conscious was just stored in a computer

And the ion crystals are just like energy cubes

[long grove]

Do you guys think or character in the genesis series is the same as the one in extinction?
Im asking cuz on extinction arent we meant to turn into a homodeus

[somber terrace]

I am looking for a few people to start the ark story from the start on a unofficial server I will make. It will be completly vanilla settings with maybe some settings changed. I am French so it will be prefered you can speak French. My goal is to make a solid groupe a people to beat the game with all the Dlc in order going from The Island to Genesis Part 2: Discord server: DM ME

[long grove]

Xbox/win10, steam or ps4?

[somber terrace]

Steam

[long grove]

Aww, i woulda played if it was xbox/win10

[rigid palm]

Ah man thats the best lore I’ve ever seen

Why didn’t wc tell us about this lore, it explains everything

[long grove]

Do you think its in a hidden note somewhere?

[rigid palm]

Probably

[long grove]

Maybe if you get all notes legit it unlocks

[rigid palm]

At least, I hope

[rigid palm]

Anyways, go to #735196255483068497

[bronze turtle]

In a battle royale, which writer would win? My bet is Santiago

[bronze turtle]

It could be either and still make sense

[bold dove]

Helena. Cause she has plot armor

But realistically, Mei-Yin.

[rigid palm]

Mei yin would just forcetame all the other survivors

[bold dove]

She's specialized in close quarters combat, knows how to tame the most powerful beings on the ARK, and she's a quick learning with new technology.

[rigid palm]

Theyd be helpless against her power

[bold dove]

Took her only a week to get the hang of tek-armor, and Diana was impressed with that.

[bronze turtle]

It would be more open field and no taming. Just combat with random weapons and stuff drops

[bold dove]

Again, Mei-Yin.
Santiago doesn't have any specialization with weapons.
He 'creates' weapons. Not use them.
The only time he fought in the notes was when he was in Meks. And so if we're having 'no tames' then a mek would count.

[bronze turtle]

Mei Yin is a warrior she'd win

Santiago makes weapons and while he can use them and isn't necessarily bad at doing so, Mei Yin is better

Come on in every situation the one who waits would win

no

she can't do almost anything physical I don't think she can hurt people unless she manipulates Tek to do so

Chill it was a joke

Also the last 2 alive would be raia and mey yin

If I remember correctly raia was really good with a gun

I would solo Raia in a gun fight

Raia wen from horrible to amazing with a gun iirc

Raia would kill me in a gun fight probably

[bronze turtle]

"1v1 me in cod"

what ARK survivor would be the best at FPS games

I'm saying it now Santiago

Santiago or diana

They are the only people that are good with computers

[bronze turtle]

Rockwell would be that one guy spamming grenades

Rockwell spams explosives for sure

Helena is idk, riot shield

Helena would have a negative kd

damn

Nerva negative KD too

Nerve would actually communicate with his team but on his own would probably get destroyed

Nerva is the one who gets carried

and acts like he did all the work

Diana would only play big team battle and just stay in a vehicle all day

Diana would be alright at FPS

Would have the most vehicle kills for sure

yeah

Santiago would straight up hack the game

Santiago is a modder

One who waits would also use cheats

One Who Waits would use game mechanics to her advantage

Santiago would cheat

John dakeya would play knife only

the one melee person that only gets one kill and then dies for the rest of the match

The college students would be the squeakers

Gabriel and nida would be the guys with bad internet connection

LMAO

@bronze turtle what about it? It's the truth

the people that are good at strategizing but have ass internet

LMAO so true

Ya that's all the explorer note writers in an fps game

So back to the original point the winner is Santiago

Nobody can beat a hacker

[teal kelp]

Mei Yin: >godmode

[bronze turtle]

The one who waits just used admincheat playercommand ascend3

[bronze turtle]

Wait a second how are there corrupted reapers and wyverns and does this imply we could canonically get them? They had to of come from somewhere

[lyric tendon]

knowing the 3 biomes outside the sanctuary as "proto ARKs" and the Forest biome has sunk

that is probably where the corrputed came from

makes me curious if the hive mind does managed to gain control of the proto-ARK's spawning hence corrupted creatures can spawn near you when you're AFK

[bronze turtle]

No I'm talking the reapers

And wyverns. Since they are supposed to "only" be on their respected maps

Everything else makes sense. Just the corrupt dlc animals that dont

[rigid palm]

Yes, thats what mazzy just told you

The reapers and drakes used to exist in the sunken forest, but when that place “sunk” they all came out and got corrupted

[bold dove]

I'd say Diana, for the factor that she's actually a member in the military.
Santiago is just a big-brain hackerman

[bronze turtle]

Ok and wyverns in the desert proto?

[toxic blade]

didnt wyverns and reapers come out because of hubris from the original survivors

in which case it wouldnt make sense for them to be in the proto arks

especially since the proto arks seem more for keeping biomes alive and not for training survivors

[bronze turtle]

Lots of people who go to the military irl suck at shooters. I wouldnt bet

[bold dove]

Actually. Shooter games are what some military bases use for testing. Specifically Arma 3

And what the hell does shooter games have to do with shooting a real firearm?

[latent fractal]

I believe there was a voice line in gen 2 that mentioned a creature data base used by both the federation and the URE which is why we have the same creatures on the colony ship as on some of the arks. as well as that the magmasaur was first tested on the scorched earth ark. so that would mean that the wyverns and reapers are probably part of this data base which would mean that the proto ark can spawn them. Over time the proto arks started malfunctioning and spawning creatures which would also include the wyverns and reapers which would then get corrupted by the hive mind.

Which is also why we have dinosaurs and the other creatures from the arks on extinction

[bronze turtle]

Yeah but wyverns were released as a punishment to schorched survivors

[latent fractal]

Yes released as an punishment by the overseer who would probably have access to that data base to spawn the creatures from.

[bronze turtle]

Why would they spawn em on the proto arms though

[latent fractal]

The mantis were also a punishment by the overseer but they are also on the colony ships

[latent fractal]

The proto arks started malfunctioning and randomly spawning creatures I believe. Not even sure if they had actual creatures on the proto arks before that or they atleast had them contained inside of there.

Besides that reapers and wyverns also appear in the missions on gen 1

[toxic blade]

the proto arks dont seem to be used for testing survivors though

which means they wouldnt have to punish hubristic survivors

[rigid palm]

Again, malfunctioned obelisks don’t care

[toxic blade]

yeah but there may not be an overseer

[lyric tendon]

There is no overseers in the protoARKS

They are called "proto" for a reason

[toxic blade]

maybe some of the arks have the creatures already in them

and the king is taking like half the babies to corrupt

[lyric tendon]

I dunno if there is any info about the existence of the lesser titans tho but my guess is they are contained inside the proto ARKs or they are corrupted versions of the guardians created by the hive mind

[toxic blade]

Its weird because the lore seems to imply that the lesser titans were created

but then how would you be able to pacify them?

[lyric tendon]

I havent touched the ext notes in entierity yet, i dunno if they can be pacified or they are just bound to the Obelisks like some Ext exclusive creatures are

the Ext creatures may give us a clue that why they can be tamed eventhough they are corrupted by element like the dinos are

[bold dove]

Santiago in Extinction mentions them

There's lesser titans, which are the sizes of a giga. Then there's the 3 generals, then there's the Big-T himself.

[bold dove]

It doesn't state in the notes. But Marc did state something interesting.

Basically, element comes in different shapes and forms. Not 'all' element strains are bad.
"Corruption" is just element that got out of hand due to a mass war. And thousands if not millions of years of letting it evolve over time. And acts as a virus.
Then there's the blue element that extinction creatures have. This element is passive, and actually helps the species. Since it has a parasitic relationship wish the species, and helps them evolve.

[safe sentinel]

How do you think element got to the arks

[heavy sandal]

aside from them being made out of it in part and powered by it?

[bold dove]

With hands

And probably machines.

[safe sentinel]

Yes also how do the bosses have it

[bronze turtle]

gameplay mechanics

just like you can't actually go third person in the lore, or like you can't change the speed dinos breed

No

[heavy sandal]

nah because rockwell talks about getting a piece of element from the manticore, so they for sure carry some

[bronze turtle]

We saw on schorched

[bronze turtle]

Yeah

@heavy sandal maybey it's as a reward and the pollution from generators is auto purged and turned into clean element

[bronze turtle]

I forgot Scorched existed mb

[safe sentinel]

Maybe the bosses are robots that are powered by element

Thus explaining how they summon minions they send out a command to the ark ai

Like sdf or gmsummon

[heavy sandal]

bet the overseer watches all the boss fights from his little house. put on a little broodmother jersey, munched some popcorn, rooted for the home team.

[safe sentinel]

Lol

[heavy sandal]

then when his team lost he'd pack all the supply drops with extra crop plot bps and compasses

[safe sentinel]

Ya know how the overseer can turn into mini versions of the bosses what if they where the overseer testing to see if you are worthy of facing it

[safe sentinel]

Nope that's an inside joke beginning with dragon

[bold dove]

I do love it when robots start to bleed, and no mentions of them being robots whatsoever.

[safe sentinel]

Oil and it was never Mentioned where we where before the end

[bold dove]

The end of what?

Also....oil isn't red.

And Mei-Yin literally brought a giga into the megapithicus fight.
Not once did she state it was mechanical.

[obtuse merlin]

Hydraulic fluid can be red

also red diesel

im not defending im just stating... tbh i dont see how they are robots

[zenith perch]

is it good that my tribe member let the GD's in the door?

[bold dove]

Sure. And yeah, i get that.
But a giga biting down on a mechanical ape and tearing its shit up would reveal some....interesting stuff.

[bold dove]

Good lore

[bronze turtle]

Ark characters I could beat in a fight tier list?

[bronze turtle]

He has a point if the boss is able to be brought back infinitely it would at least have some element programming in it

[bold dove]

Not how that works, pal.

They're just genetically altered animals.
Rockwell finds the element in the manticore arena in a stache that it was guarding like a dragon.

[heavy sandal]

probably you could only beat Skye

[bright basalt]

the lore on gen 1 and 2 is just helena good rockwell bad

[rigid palm]

The fool
He has only sealed his fate

[heavy sandal]

I need therapy or something. I see that red notification and am filled with dread. dont @ me I am delicate.

[bold dove]

@heavy sandal What?
Say that again?

[vital robin]

imagine the overseer smugly putting a large crop plot bp in a purple drop like "omg theyre gonna be so pissed"

[heavy sandal]

so sassy

[ornate hull]

"Bro wanna see some good shit.
I'm gonna put a spyglass in a ringed purple drop"

[rigid palm]

Survivor: doesn’t loot purple drop

[vital robin]

overseer: b-but that's illeagal

[bronze turtle]

I'd solo Manticore, Megapithecus, Dragon, Broodmother, Rockwell, Ice Titan, Desert Titan, Forest Titan, King Titan, Moeder, Corrupted Master Controller, Rockwell Prime, Crystal Wyvern Queen, Dinopithecus King

[rigid palm]

But the canoe mission… that, that monstrosity is too powerful to exist

[bronze turtle]

I don't solo canoe

[bronze turtle]

Yep.

[bronze turtle]

Nah, I'd whoop helena in a fight. Or pre ab Rockwell

this dude really said pre Ab Rockwell

he's like 123 years old

[rigid palm]

smh

[bronze turtle]

Helena would beat my ass like a drum in a fight

[bold dove]

Ummm...

Sorry to break it to you.
But humans 'rarely' live that long.

[bronze turtle]

it's a metaphor for he's an old man

[bold dove]

He's more like 70-80s.

if not younger, due to him living in a early time period where every scientist died around age 60-ish.

[bronze turtle]

we mean animated or

[bold dove]

Either.

[bronze turtle]

animated looks younger

animated looks 50/40

[bold dove]

Rockwell in the notes does look old. But he doesn't have enough wrinkles to be in his late 80s-100s.

[heavy sandal]

probably just animate him younger to bring in those GILF clicks

[bold dove]

Being around constant stress will actually make you go grey at a younger age.

[bronze turtle]

every ARK character would kill me in a fight

Nah

from the animated trailer it appears Helena uses her surroundings to her advantage

[bold dove]

Especially if the stress comes from being stranded butt-naked on a island full of prehistoric beasts that want to kill you at any moment. Then studying the new technology on this island that would take constant trial and errors/stress.

[bronze turtle]

Santiago would also kill me

[heavy sandal]

of boredom

[bold dove]

"Respawned again"

[bronze turtle]

He would probably be an even fight

not to me

I'm not good at fighting

[bold dove]

Depends 'which' Santiago.

[bronze turtle]

1.0

[bold dove]

Aberration-Extinction you could probably handle. Since he also doesn't know much actual combat. Hints why he usually relies on his technology to do his job for him.
Genesis 2 Santiago would woop your ass just by saying "Respawned again"

[bronze turtle]

yeah

Again sant might be jacked for a military scientist especially if they hired bin diesal to act as him

what was the name of the kid the people had in Scorched

only ARK character I'll beat

[bronze turtle]

Is gen2 sant part a joke or is it serious

[heavy sandal]

unnamed dead baby

[bronze turtle]

no way in hell I'm beating any one else

[bronze turtle]

You could beat raia

[bold dove]

What'd you mean by that?

[bronze turtle]

who is Raia

[bronze turtle]

"Respawned again"

[heavy sandal]

might could beat Mei's shinehorn 1v1

[bronze turtle]

Pharaoh

[bold dove]

Oh, he legit says that.

[bronze turtle]

who

[bronze turtle]

I know, but he wouldnt fight like taht

[rigid palm]

He’s vin diesal. Of course he would

[bronze turtle]

Vin Diesel solos

[bold dove]

It's such a cheesy, corny, and out of place line that it makes me and some other people cringe from it.

Same with "Something tells me that this will be the easy part."

[bronze turtle]

Vin Diesel is so strong in every character he acts

[bronze turtle]

I thought it was badass

Vindiago the next Doom Slayer of prehistoric times

[bold dove]

I thought it was out of place for Santiago.

[bronze turtle]

I agree the lines were kinda cheesy and out of place from Santiagos character

[jolly fox]

Vin diesel and the rock are the same people

[bold dove]

Santiago would've had a smartass remark.

[bronze turtle]

it was out of place for Santiago but god damn was it badass

Santiago is more "serious smartass"

[bold dove]

I'm not easily impressed.
It was pretty corny to me.

[bronze turtle]

I like to forget Ab and Ext Santiago because Gen2 Santiago makes me feel happy

idk, I like Vin Diesel as an actor, glad to see him in one of my favorite franchises

[bold dove]

Which i didn't get that feeling from with the Genesis-2 Santiago.

[rigid palm]

Don’t say that. Youll just anger spartan

[bronze turtle]

who

[bronze turtle]

I did with ext and pre tek war sant

[bold dove]

I don't mind him as a person. But i just don't like his works.

Besides when he played as Groot......

[bronze turtle]

yeah

[rigid palm]

Bootlet rockwell

[bronze turtle]

Vin Groot was great

[bold dove]

Why?

[bronze turtle]

well the thing with me and Gen2 Santiago is that I haven't heard anything about Santiago before that

[rigid palm]

Youve just expressed your dislike for gen 2 santiago many, many times

[bronze turtle]

only got into the lore after ARK 2

ARK 2 trailer

Ok serious question who is the most well written character. I count hlna and helena separate as well as one who waits

[jolly fox]

Theres an ark 2 trailer?

[bronze turtle]

Helena is well written

[bold dove]

I dislike Santiago in Genesis-2, yes.
But i'm not Jamie and get pissed off when someone else likes him.

[rigid palm]

I see

[bronze turtle]

Cap

[rigid palm]

Jamie should never know of this conversation

[bronze turtle]

I'm being serious

[bold dove]

Rockwell.
Only for the fact that he's one of the only characters that actually has a character arc.
Oh, and also Ria.

[bronze turtle]

I like Helena she's well written

[bold dove]

If i may ask.
How?

[bronze turtle]

this the only Discord to argue about characters tbh

[heavy sandal]

helena is a bit flat

raia is good

[bronze turtle]

who

[bronze turtle]

She never faces consequences for her actions. Rockwell does. Even santiago to an extent does

[bold dove]

She's flatter then a window that just got made.

[bold dove]

Note that she also has no real motive for a protagonist.

[bronze turtle]

That also.

[bold dove]

And before you say anything.
"exploring" isn't a motive for the character that's suppose to carry the story.

[bronze turtle]

had a lot of emotion to her, was a biologist and paleontologist who happened to be on dino Island, is a human god, if HLNA is Helena's personality she has a nice personality and is kind

But never changes

yes she did

[rigid palm]

I feel like she has plenty motive, shes a scientist. Being curious and having the urge to discover stuff is what makes up their personality

[bold dove]

That's all good qualities about her on The Island. Which would be great.
.....If she changed....

[bronze turtle]

she was happier before she became a Homo Deus

[bold dove]

That's a fine motive for a character like Rockwell that's a major character. But not the protagonist.

[bold dove]

That's due to the side-effects of being one.
And....i don't think seeing your friend become insane due to you being a shitty friend, and seeing your other friend in constant grief, and seeing another one sacrifice himself....is "happier"

[bronze turtle]

yeah she was happier

No

Maybey on the island

But definitely not past that

[bold dove]

And Scorched.

[bronze turtle]

ok well then she did change

[bold dove]

She was basically at home on Scorched.

[bold dove]

I don't find changing your character physically to be a actually character arc.

[bronze turtle]

eh she got sadder ig

All she did was use admincheat playercommand ascend3

yeah

[heavy sandal]

she didnt even issue the command.

[bronze turtle]

Helena Hate Club :(

[heavy sandal]

mei carried her to the coffin. ever the cheater

[bronze turtle]

And changing emotions isnt really a character arc

[bronze turtle]

Speaking of, surprised no ones mentioned her yet

Santajto

What?

Santiago had a good character ARK he went from nerd to big buff man

[heavy sandal]

santa mojito

his development in the notes was just becoming slightly kinder toward his team. the buffening was all offscreen

should not be considered in a discussion of character growth

[bronze turtle]

well he sure did grow

[bold dove]

Sorry, i'm back

[heavy sandal]

his memories were just stuffed into a nicer body is all

[bold dove]

That's not a arc

[bronze turtle]

Character growth and character development are differrent

[bold dove]

There was at no moment, any connection of how Santiago went from "scronny nerd" to "buff chad"
It just happened, for the save of Vin.

Not even the notes explain why this is the case.

[bronze turtle]

probably some engrammic matrix stuff

[bold dove]

But that's just speculation.

Which is actually half of ARK's lore.....

[bronze turtle]

Ok but what about development

[bronze turtle]

Say it

I'm sorry guys, I don't know what got into me

[bold dove]

Say what?

[bronze turtle]

I'm bored forget everything I say it was mainly trolling lol

[heavy sandal]

there is no new lore. there is only trolling and speculation now

[gusty turret]

I bet how its like the blue element being good he injected himself with some of the good stuff and he got big and buff and lost his hair

[bronze turtle]

What half of arks lore is

I think the character with the best arc was Rockwell

[bronze turtle]

Pretty sure rockwell did blue element too

But it might of did somthing simular to a ferox to him

he went from being a grumpy mean scientist to a murderer and then to a crazy man obsessed with Element and then finally a monster who wanted to conquer the universe

[gusty turret]

If i had to guess he used the soup since hes all purple

I forgot how to spell soup for a solid 5 seconds

[heavy sandal]

soap

[bold dove]

Remember that long ass portal you go up to, to get to the gateway project/actual portal on Aberration?

[rigid palm]

The entire time being a tentacle british meat man

[bronze turtle]

Yeah what about it

[bold dove]

The portal 'is' the gateway project. But never once did they state anything about the long ass tube that goes all the way to the Rad-zone.

[bronze turtle]

We only go through the portal at spawn iirc

[bold dove]

And before you argue. I've read the Aberration notes recently for a upcoming video.
If i missed anything, tell me.

[bold dove]

But the tube that connect to it, drags us back to the starting portal

[bronze turtle]

Do u work for neddythenoodle or somthing?

[bold dove]

.........yes.....👀

[bronze turtle]

Wait fr?

[rigid palm]

Actually?

[bold dove]

Yeah, but i'm not disclosing anything other then "the goal has been reached."

[bronze turtle]

Hyped

[bold dove]

I've seen some behind the scene stuff. And i don't think y'all will be disappointed.

[heavy sandal]

[bronze turtle]

I want to see the model for the nuke

[bold dove]

WELL!!
You're not fucking getting it until the video is released.

[bronze turtle]

Which will be 3 months from now I bey

Before I see a tek nuke

[rigid palm]

How dare

[bold dove]

Safe to say with the pace of the previous videos. Not too far off.

[heavy sandal]

probly get it before ark animated

[bold dove]

Most likely

[heavy sandal]

i actually still havent watched the se notes

[bronze turtle]

The Rockwell ones are good

[bold dove]

Pretty good.
That Rockwell body-actor is pretty damn fine looking, if i have to say so myself. 👀

[heavy sandal]

maybe I'll just give it a year or two and binge them all

[bronze turtle]

Genesis 1 will be skipped big sad

[bold dove]

In the Survival-Stories?

[bronze turtle]

Unless you do all the Santiago stuff taht happens there

[bronze turtle]

Ya

[bold dove]

Did anyone tell you this?
Cause as of right now. It may be possible, since HLN-A is already voice-acted.

[bronze turtle]

No I'm saying since here are no explorer notes there

No survivors besides our own

[bold dove]

"Though" again. Don't get your hopes up. Since first we have to do Aberration.
'Then' Extinction, which that may or may not happen due to financial shit.

[heavy sandal]

some 30 second shorts of the causes of the glitches would be funny, but gen1 just didnt have much going on

[bronze turtle]

Extinction will be a year before we see big boi Santiago at his best

But big nuke more important to see

[bold dove]

Well, theoretically. The story would revolve around a default survivor(s) with a HLN-A, while doing their own stuff while HLN-A is talking about the simulation.
Though again. I don't speak for Ned. This is just the theoretical talk of what it "could" be "if" we ever got to Genesis-1.

[heavy sandal]

ark wizard

[bronze turtle]

Well tehres nothing 'exactly' we do there

[bold dove]

HLN-A gets corrupted a few times by Rockwell.
And in the keyart, there was originally going to be corrupted avatars invading the simulation.
This is even more apparent when you go into the dev-kit, and see that there's a left-over gauntlet that was never added.

[bronze turtle]

It would take wat less time than the other ones

And gen2, taht will be a titan to tame

[bold dove]

That'd what you'd think.

[lyric tendon]

Corrupted gauntlet would be nice tho and felt in-lore compared to some missions in Gen 1

Tbf Gen 2 has some (not all) missions fit to the story

[bold dove]

The only thing i'm disappointed in the missions in Genesis 2, is that they're set in the simulation again, and not in the ship. And that they do lack any real plot to them.

Hold the fuck on.
Helena's video was only a month ago?

[bronze turtle]

For schorched?

[bold dove]

Yeah

[bronze turtle]

Ya

[lyric tendon]

The ship-based missions feel more like tasks for the ship workers meanwhile the sim missions show how Rockwell took over the sim

[bronze turtle]

I think it makes more sense for what we are doing

[bronze turtle]

If you say tasks again I will laugh I am already thing of among us

[lyric tendon]

Dont say that in front of spartan

[bold dove]

Makes more sense to play star-fox against Rockwell to get the ships system back online, then going into the ship manually and burning away any of his flesh that corrupted the ships systems?

[bronze turtle]

Why not both

[heavy sandal]

maybe we just dont talk when spartan is awake

[bold dove]

I never sleep.

[bronze turtle]

Maybey we go to the sim to enable us to burn away at his flesh like you said

[bold dove]

That sounds, and kinda is....lackluster.

[lyric tendon]

The ship workers do may like some fun in their job from time to time

[bronze turtle]

No like exit the sim then do it in the ship

Probably still lackluster

[bold dove]

When Cedric said "Heavily scripted story based missions."
I thought we where getting more story-based missions akin to something like Destiny. Where it would teleport you into a new part of the world (which it does) and you'd have to possibly find and burn away Rockwells little grubby hands. While getting some heavy lore dumps on "What happened to Earth?" "Where's all of the crew?" Etc.

[heavy sandal]

maybe that was the intention but just too hard to implement

we can hope for ark2

[lyric tendon]

Well at least we have "Code Red"

Sadly only Code Red

[bold dove]

Code-Red actually is pretty damn good.

But there was also no real lore inside of it other then "Haha, Rockwell does the funny corrupting"

[lyric tendon]

I mean we to took the role as the crew trying to stop rockwell from creating creatures from the sim side before they have gone released in the real world

[bold dove]

Only the Corrupted Giga.
All of the other creatures still appear in-game no matter what.

[bronze turtle]

Star dolphin had me acking when I thought we had to fight the CMC at the same difficulty as first time

[lyric tendon]

Dolphin OP, i'd say

[rigid palm]

Tbf it pretty much is the same difficulty for people on controller

[lyric tendon]

Inb4 the dolpin starts spazzing around the mission until it killed itself

[bronze turtle]

😂 true

[bronze turtle]

Mega summoner? Bootleg CMC? Or are those too simular to their in free roam counterpart

[bold dove]

Mega Summoner and CMC where just protectors.
The corrupted giga was a actual creature being made. Hints why it needed to die.

[lyric tendon]

shadowmanes would predate the corrupted giga, since thats one of his creations

[gusty turret]

Did i see something about amongus

Survive the ark reminds me of the meteor task

[teal kelp]

Begonization of all amogus related things

[ornate hull]

There once was a man in Peru

He dreamt he was eating his shoe

He awoke in a fright to turn out he was right that he was eating his shoe

[bright basalt]

ah yes rockwell bad helena good

basically the entirety of the ark lore

[mental basin]

Relatable

[gusty turret]

Hey i saw you were playing fortnite the other day

Did you know they have among us in Fortnite😳

[bronze turtle]

they do

[pseudo hemlock]

So any new lore in ark?

[bronze turtle]

Since?

[ivory panther]

Onk

[pseudo hemlock]

Idk a few months ago?

[gusty turret]

Depends what you count as a few months ago

[ornate hull]

Shhhhhhh

[plain plover]

Absolutely nothing since July

[bronze turtle]

briefcase lore

[gusty turret]

What about the secret primitive plus Valguero lore they added

[proven gorge]

yall think the bunker on Lost island is important for any lore?

[lyric tendon]

lost island is not canon, so does all the free "non-story" maps

and if you are talking about the bunker, it's a reference to a show L O S T

[proven gorge]

ahh ok

[arctic bison]

what bunker

[proven gorge]

near the crouch cave on lost island there is a bunker door in the forest

ill take the cords rq

[proven gorge]

60.6 48.4

[bitter barn]

Is there a lore reason why rockwell's dudes aren't in Eden

[teal kelp]

It's because he hasn't reached the eden

[bitter barn]

but why tho

[bronze turtle]

d

[storm hill]

Patch Xbox official, it’s fucked. The lag and disconnects are killing us

[storm hill]

Wrong place lol

[lyric tendon]

Because the crew stopped him

[teal kelp]

Tha gang

[bitter barn]

how tho

what prevents his dudes to enter eden

*from

[lyric tendon]

if you do the missions (basically, Star Dolphin, Code Red, etc), its basically you are preventing rockwell from progressing to Eden

[ornate hull]

Well Edens fucked then because star dolphin is impossible

[arctic bison]

rockwell upped the dificulty lvls

[lyric tendon]

i almost beat it on alpha but Nitrado decided "nope, you DC'd"

[bronze turtle]

Imagine ark in vr and u DC Irl

It would reveal... interesting things about our world

[bronze turtle]

yeah

[hexed hill]

So what is lore? And cannon and all this? What’s the difference

[bronze turtle]

Why are dinosaurs in extinction? Isn’t earth supposed to be... earth? Not another simulation?

[rigid palm]

Proto arks

[bronze turtle]

Oh ok

[bronze turtle]

I can tell u

[hexed hill]

Please

[bronze turtle]

Ok

In the beginning...

[hexed hill]

I just wanna know what lore and cannon is

[bronze turtle]

There were meteors that crashed down to earth containing element. Most notably by sanctuary. The cities that found this rescorce quickly advanced. Then a war over politics between 2 factions regarding element happened. The tek weapons quickly polluted the earth causing corruption levels to reach dangerous highs. So teh 2 factions called a truce and decided to work together building big spaceships known as ARKs. These were intended to purge element once the big ground threats were cleared. But they never came home.. so they started to malfunction, sending horses of dangerous wildlife to attack survivors. Another team built a big spaceship to look for other habitable planets.

I can go to more detail as to what happens

[hexed hill]

Nah

[bronze turtle]

That's a big summary

[hexed hill]

What do you mean by “element”

Nevermind

[bronze turtle]

It's a type of substance from outer space I think

[fallow sapphire]

Its basically an element that destroys how we know how everything works, so its just called element… atleast thats from my understanding

[rigid palm]

Its called element because it is literally every element

At least thats from my understanding

we’re too scared to get it wrong and get people that actually know stuff mad at us

[fallow sapphire]

Yeah basically lol

I mean i think technically we are both right, or maybe both wrong, or maybe i is big dum

[rigid palm]

I feel like any one of these is true

Maybe all of them

[fallow sapphire]

True

[wary ruin]

Keeep goiing :(

[gusty turret]

Wasn't abb the only Ark that was truly malfunctioning???? The rest were still operating the same way they always had

[tender wasp]

Nope, all arks stared to malefunction, Abbs is severly damagded not only malefunctioning

Making the encounters harder and harder allready was the first sign of the Arks starting to malefunction.

[bronze turtle]

what do the obelisks on Lost Island mean

nothing, lost island is not canon

[fallow sapphire]

That Lost Island isnt canon

[bronze turtle]

ik I'm just so bored we haven't gotten any lore in forever

tbh same, i want to see just how much earth changed in Extinction, like the rest if the world. shame we ll probably never get to see that

[fallow sapphire]

Yeah i wish there was something there

But nah extinction goes bye bye and genesis comes zooming in instead

[scarlet junco]

I’m sure it went back to normal, since Rockwell beamed himself onboard the Genesis ship

[heavy sandal]

no way it went back to normal. a ton of humans from all across history coming out of the arks fully kited out with their whole tribes. nobody knows wtf is going on. the forcefields come down then it's nobunaga vs attila vs hannibal of carthago with dinosaurs and everyone just gets wiped out.

[lyric tendon]

its basically TEK War 2.0

[bold dove]

Sounds like normal human stuff.

[toxic blade]

so do the events of the genesis ship take place after exctinction

like is earth dead when we are on the ship again

[bronze turtle]

This is helpful

Thankyou.

[subtle falcon]

I thought the arks revived the earth

[toxic blade]

well I mean we dont know when we are on the genesis ship, for all we know the solar system could of been snapped

[fallow sapphire]

Genesis does take place after extinction, but the the ship was already out before the arks landed

[bold dove]

We do actually know where the Genesis-ship roughly is.

[toxic blade]

I mean when

hell for all we know we dont even know if the individual arks are within a reasonable length of time from each other

[tender wasp]

We even know it must not be to long after extinction and that Rockwell is not very long on the ship

[toxic blade]

I mean he seems pretty well entrenched into the ship

[tender wasp]

And you exactly know the time you take on an Ark.. the days are counted.

[toxic blade]

also we dont if rockwell was hiding out on earth for a potentially long time awaiting the ship

[tender wasp]

It is in the notes that he is ther a max of some years and not there for long

[toxic blade]

well yeah but we dont know between the arks

[tender wasp]

When we awake the crew is not very long dead

[tender wasp]

You get imediatly ported to another ark

when you leave the island you imediatly go to scorched or Abs

[bold dove]

The skybox tells a lot.

The skybox uses real starmapping.

[toxic blade]

like what we would see or what the stellar alignmets currently look like

[bold dove]

More like "what we would see"

[toxic blade]

huh

I mean it feels kind of weird beating the arks and then immiedietly having to deal with rockwell 2 more times

[bold dove]

It is weird. And i fucking wished there was a inbetweener.

[toxic blade]

I mean we do

but it seems like we go directly from extinction into gen 1

[severe goblet]

He can't have been because the arks were purging all the element, he'd have died

[toxic blade]

of which we beat in real time and doesnt take us millenia which means we go directly into gen 2

[toxic blade]

abberation could of been its own "bubble" when it landed

[severe goblet]

Not sure, I think all the barriers came down and that's how he was able to get to Arat prime

My read on it is that he had to scramble to leave earth because the arks had already won. There'd be no need to take over the ship and find himself a new world if he could have just re-corrupted earth

[knotty dune]

So um

What is this whole thing about?

Cavemen on a island with Magical towers and dinos

[lyric tendon]

There is more than that

[knotty dune]

Oh no

[bold dove]

Funny rock crashed into Earth that defies all known laws of the universe. And humanity does what we would realistically do with it.
Throw it at each other like the fucking primates we are. AKA wars.
Funny rock is actually alive, and the fighting causes enough pollution that funny rock is now pissed and wipes out all of humanity.
Before hand, humanity makes funny space-stations to preserve life.

[knotty dune]

Oh

[bold dove]

That's the TL:DR of it.

[bronze turtle]

Yes

[toxic blade]

I meant like when after extinction

[bronze turtle]

Probably a month at most

[fervent surge]

Any one else think Rockwell was packing, I say between 7 or 9 inches.

But then when he's a monster on aby I say prob 5 inches, the element probably shriveled it

And on gen 2 when he merged with the ship. He became more of a tentacle monster light the late night anime stuff my freind watches. Ya know with all the tenitcally stuff it morphed from a shaft to that

But maybe it wassent a tentacle
Perhaps it was HUDGE! Like godzilla style ya know
And he embedded it into the ship.
Did I just crack the lore?!

That's it... Rockwell embedded his pecker jnto the gen 2 ship and sent his.. "children" to go take controll and became the ship

PP power

[rigid palm]

ಠ_ಠ

[arctic bison]

i_-_i, wth is this

[fallow sapphire]

Dont ask

Its a terrible idea too ask

[heavy sandal]

maybe a little more graphic, but not any more cursed than some of the other stuff

[rose relic]

I'm blocking you /j

[ornate hull]

But that's not all I'm going to piss on the MOON

[gusty turret]

I think that's canon in the ark universe

Pissing on the moon to explode it

[robust knot]

Free b@m

[teal kelp]

I see much lore in this

[bronze turtle]

Tek moon

[bronze turtle]

Remember that time on extinction where Santiago devwiped bam?

[lyric tendon]

Remember when the moon got VAC ban

[bronze turtle]

Moon map

[lyric tendon]

Low key want a 100% underwater map ala lunar biome and ocean biome hybrid

where you have water tames as flyers and you wont get drowned

[bronze turtle]

I am aqua phobic

[bronze turtle]

Bam was not in the lore :(

[radiant jasper]

I need help with the TekLauncher.exe becuz my one for some reason is now saying I have to download another 110 GB tho I didnt need to do that a month ago when I used it

[lyric tendon]

Wrong chat

[radiant jasper]

I know

[lyric tendon]

We wont help you unless it's lore-related

[craggy kite]

Can someone explain what exactly Genesis is? It‘s a simulation where the ppl inside of a spaceship are put into hibernation and being prepared in the simulation for the arrival on a new planet?

[ember solar]

yes

[craggy kite]

perfect thank you

[waxen field]

Kk

[tawny torrent]

Anyone doing boss fights?

[rigid palm]

Probably

[tawny torrent]

@rigid palm ya? How much for hard island?

[rigid palm]

Idk lol

You’re in the wrong channel

[tawny torrent]

Where do i go lol im new to this discord stuff

[wintry flame]

EN текст

[forest rose]

In ark extinction, is the moon destroyed?

[arctic bison]

yes

you can also see the destroyed moon in the overseer arena

[hasty creek]

U can see ab too