#lore-nerdz

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gusty turret
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The island ascension being old doesn't cancel it out

hasty creek
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Why do the rexes in ark 2 trailer have spikes or fur on them?

hollow lark
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Aren't they alien

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So idk.

gusty turret
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Theres not as many Arks in the extinction cutscene as you think

hasty creek
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Ye but why would they need to have spikes if there rexes?

mental basin
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Either way, it doesn't matter. Even one ARK could wipe Edmund out if he was around it when it landed. And tons of these things are purging Element from the soil, to the point where the Earth's rotation kicks back up in seconds. Rockwell had to get out ASAP.

mental basin
gusty turret
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We also don't know if the Arks had enough resources left after the implementation of respawning to completely purge the element

hollow lark
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Ah, yeah Rockwell couldn't of stayed on a planet that was being purged of the very resource hes basically made out of.

hasty creek
mental basin
hasty creek
gusty turret
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Rockwell isn't in the soil

mental basin
mental basin
rigid palm
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Rockwell is not element

hasty creek
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Hes also basically corrupted

mental basin
hasty creek
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Rockwell is element

gusty turret
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That is something curious, that just mentions soil, what about the high concentration of it in the Air, or the organic matter that is/has element in it

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Rockwell is not element he just mutated because of element

mental basin
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Rockwell is literally an Element-based lifeform. His flesh contains the stuff, his blood contains the stuff.

mental basin
hollow lark
rigid palm
gusty turret
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If you grow an extra finger because of radiation does that make you radiation?

rigid palm
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^

hasty creek
mental basin
hollow lark
hasty creek
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There completely different

rigid palm
mental basin
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And that's different from literally having Element in your bloodstream and in your flesh.

rigid palm
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Element mutated him yeah
Element is in his body yeah
But he is not element

gusty turret
mental basin
hollow lark
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He's not literally element, but I'd still say he'd die if he stayed on earth where element was being purged from.

hasty creek
gusty turret
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Yes he did

hasty creek
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He created survivors as his new crew

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He literally said it

rigid palm
gusty turret
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Its quite literally mentioned that he made the corrupted survivors to excavate element in the end of Gabriels notes

rigid palm
mental basin
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He made the Corrupted Survivors to take over the old crew, we dunno what this entails.

mental basin
rigid palm
gusty turret
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He swim in soup, he not soup

rigid palm
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And mine had sentence frames

hasty creek
rigid palm
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Yours was just one word at a time

gusty turret
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His innards are organic it just kinda grew i think?

hasty creek
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Is he rockwell innards

mental basin
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Yes.

gusty turret
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Yes

fallow sapphire
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Thats the idea

gusty turret
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We know that because he literally speaks to us as we're crawling around in his ass

hasty creek
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If he is rockwell innards element is in his bloodstream if the trees have element shards in them

gusty turret
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His blood stream wouldn't flow through the trees?

mental basin
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Anyways, back to the original topic, Rockwell is a Corrupted lifeform. If he stuck around on Earth for too long he'd be a goner.
How is he not dead? Looks like the Aberration crash bought him some time. The entire area is unaffected by the other ARK's reseeding right after the crash.

gusty turret
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Im assuming mutagen is part of his blood stream tho cuz he gets angy when we take it

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It seems like it hurts him

hasty creek
rigid palm
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Just cause something is in your bloodstream does not make you it
If I drink liquid toxic waste and become a mutant and its in my blood stream does that make me toxic waste?

hasty creek
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Dont compare toxic waste to element lmao

gusty turret
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Drinking toxic waste wouldn't put it in your blood stream

mental basin
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I swear to fucking God I've said it before he is not Element. I feel like you're just messing with me at this point.

rigid palm
hollow lark
gusty turret
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To be fair he did quite literally inject the soup into himself

mental basin
hasty creek
rigid palm
gusty turret
mental basin
rigid palm
hasty creek
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Then that means he has to be atleast somewhat element he couldn't of just mutated and spread himself all over innards without a proper source of energy

hollow lark
gusty turret
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It isn't very dark when we see it !

hollow lark
mental basin
# rigid palm I’m getting mixed messages here

Allow me to quantify.
Rockwell is Element-based. He isn't entirely made of Element, yet it is a large part of him. It's in his blood, it's in his flesh and it drove him further into insanity on Aberration.

Taking this into account, the ARKs would most likely purge him along with the rest of the Element.

hasty creek
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Thats because theres fire on the ground

mental basin
mental basin
rigid palm
mental basin
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He is almost one with Element. If he can become a ship, he can become Element.

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But he is not.

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He is
Element-based

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🦑

gusty turret
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Ur moms element based

hollow lark
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Well, like what SteL is saying, if element runs through is blood or say element is his blood, it's like removing blood from a normal person, saying the arks would do the same to Rockwell and he'd die.

gusty turret
mental basin
hollow lark
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When it says "Keep it on topic"

mental basin
bronze turtle
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Did you say family

mental basin
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Something tells me that this is the easy part.

bronze turtle
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A tuso is in my ass

mental basin
gusty turret
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mMmMhgH respawned again

bronze turtle
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Help step bro

mental basin
bronze turtle
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Help step bro I’m stuck in a rathole

mental basin
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ok

gusty turret
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Me when a bloodstalker grabs me

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Or an alpha tuso

old fiber
bronze turtle
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Bloodstalker dragging me by my nutd

mental basin
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ok

bronze turtle
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Imagine if dragon could be my little pony

gusty turret
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You broke Stel

lyric tendon
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that's rare

gusty turret
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I think the whole discussion earlier was pointless

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If the Arks purged corruption from the air and everything why would it be vital to murder the titans before calling them home?

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Obviously the corrupted creatures died off after we murdered the thing that gave them all orders they wouldn't know what to do

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That is why Rockwell could have survived on Earth

lyric tendon
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Rockwell has no ties to the hivemind hence Ab survived the purging

gusty turret
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Yeah but thats exactly why he would survive the purging

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The titans were pure element, and they had to be slain before the Arks, which purged element could be brought home

lyric tendon
gusty turret
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No it would've crashed at the same time as everything else

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Honestly it probably crashed first since it was broken

lyric tendon
lyric tendon
gusty turret
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I don't think its corrupted i think that was just the burned surface soil

lyric tendon
gusty turret
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The Obelisk was on the surface wasn't it?

lyric tendon
gusty turret
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Yknow now im thinking, is the soil on Extinction even like corrupted or is it just all dead from the endless sun beating down on it?

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Cuz i always think like corrupted grass n stuff but?

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Or is it both

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The corrupted grass appears to be red like it is around the king titans arena

lyric tendon
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it's both

corrupted by the element pollution and the remaining uncorrupted ones are just baked by the sun

gusty turret
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Hmm

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Rockwell wouldn't have been purged even if he was there when it was happening

bold dove
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He would, just not in the same way that pure element-based stuff is.
Rockwell is running on element now. He's not 'made' out of element, but it's now another nutrient in his body that he requires.
If he would be in the blast radius of the ARK's. It'd be like a animal/human being stripped away of all the iron in their body.
He'd just fall flat, dead. Since his body now requires it like how red-blood cell based lifeforms require iron to live.

gusty turret
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The Arks purge the element from the soil

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It wouldn't evaporate it from his body

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If it evaporated it like that theres absolutely no reason for us to kill the titans first

bold dove
gusty turret
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So why should we kill the titans before bringing the Arks home if the arks would just delete the titans?

bold dove
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There's quite a bit of those if you dig deep enough.

gusty turret
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Or maybe its not an oversight and he just wouldn't die?

lyric tendon
bold dove
ornate hull
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Ik this isn't the chat but how much does ark normally go for on steam during cybermonday

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Nice shank ya joske

heavy sandal
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isthereanydeal only has Ark prices for epic store for some reason

ember solar
lyric tendon
gusty turret
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Didn't you already say that once

bold dove
gusty turret
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It would also be like punching fucking Ohio because of how big an Ark is

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Ohio if it was nuclear

bleak ember
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Wait it’s all Ohio?

plain plover
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The genesis ship is about the size of Ohio

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The dirt for the rings was sourced from Wyoming as part of a global initiative to remove the state from all maps

gusty turret
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Wyoming isn't that bad

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Ohio, Illinois, and Florida are the main problems

teal kelp
gusty turret
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Everything

teal kelp
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Rly

merry cipher
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I think we should shoot Ohio off into space. It would be funny I think.

bleak ember
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Let’s shoot america off into space I wanna see what happens

open mountain
gusty turret
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World wide depression from which it will probably never recover

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America's babies like Ukraine will no longer have an avid defender from Russia

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A lot of the worlds most advanced facilities would be gone

mossy wraith
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this is on topic

shut bloom
gusty turret
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It is

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Mods don't really care as long as we don't go too in depth about tentacles

rain nest
bleak ember
shut bloom
rigid grove
tender wasp
unreal coyote
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Crew to lore channel I repeat crew to lore channel, tentacles is on the topic

ornate hull
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Which tentacle was better the alpha purple aberration ones or the beta green ones

shut bloom
shut bloom
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they were more, developed (said in a lustful voice)

unreal coyote
shut bloom
unreal coyote
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😳

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You lured us here

tender wasp
ornate hull
unreal coyote
tender wasp
bold dove
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Would Rockwell technically be tamable if you're able to grow his tentacles? 🤔

unreal coyote
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Nah he’s just harvestable like the leed

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🤮

bold dove
unreal coyote
bold dove
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Then there's mutagen, which is made by him. Which we feed our tames.
So that's another thing from Rockwell that we always have a piece of him with us.

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Also, it's weird that Rockwell is so fucking jacked on Aberration. But then he's scrawny as all hell on Genesis-2.

tender wasp
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This sounds so.. wrong...

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XD

bold dove
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So does 90% of the shit i say.

ember solar
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if there isn't any new lore then the lore channel will make lore to their likings no matter what that is

bold dove
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Like, this is the shit you read about for games like Skyrim or Fallout.
I want ARK to become that vast with it's lore. Or to give you a shit ton of 'none important' questions to think about.

ember solar
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well hopefully the animated series give a lot more small details to expand the world and obviously the animated series doesn't need to follow the notes exactly but it should follow its own rules and have a coherent story that makes sense

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rip

bleak ember
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Bruh

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Weebs invading lore channel when anime comes out 2022 colorized

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With no emojis or else message gets delete

ember solar
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weebs only watch things with japanese dub being the original we are probably safe

bleak ember
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Until someone voices over the characters in Japanese

narrow crystal
bold dove
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And last time i checked. Wrestlers don't fucking shrivel up due to losing.

narrow crystal
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Lol I'm pretty sure during the fight the bosses are supposed to die but rockwell just kinda sunk into the element or something (I forgot what the ending looks like)

shut bloom
narrow crystal
bold dove
narrow crystal
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Huh ok

lyric tendon
bold dove
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Japanese Santiago sounds more like Santiago then Vin does.

rigid palm
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In fact if the ark hadnt forced rockwell to surrender he wouldve kept fighting

narrow crystal
gusty turret
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I don't think the Ark forced him to surrender we just gave an old man heart palpitations until he fell in the soup and drowned

bold dove
gusty turret
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Was the a confirmation after he quit?

bold dove
gusty turret
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If it was after he quit I don't think its necessarily something we need to use as canon

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Thats the same as some random guy approaching you on the street and saying that the Arks were actually giant turtles in space

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(it's similar to J.K. Rowling trying to modify her stories years later to not seem like a horrible person)

bold dove
gusty turret
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But if he is no longer of position to expand onto the story, it expands nothing, you can have it as head canon or whatever but it cannot apply directly to lore unless the new writer goes along with it

bold dove
gusty turret
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One concept≠another concept

languid nymph
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disappointn pathetic

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idk why i said that

tender wasp
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Only cause Marc left does not make all is lore not canon. It is still canon until WC decides to change it, otherwise nearly everything before Gen he wrote would be no canon anymore.

bold dove
tender wasp
bold dove
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Cause they've basically already done that with Santiago. 'Buh-Dum-Tss'

tender wasp
bold dove
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Yeah, you say that.......until they go full ship and abandon most of the lore from the first game as a whole and make ARK 2 the only canon.

tender wasp
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Yeah and retcon old canon in Ark 2.

lyric tendon
bold dove
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No, i mean ARK-2

lyric tendon
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Remember Dollie said that TAS is gonna be different from game lore

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I'd bet that's where the retconning begin making TAS coherent to ARK 2 rather than ARK 1 to ARK 2

bold dove
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No, it would've been Genesis 2 that started all of this pointless plotholes.
With barely explaining anything from the previous lore with Genesis 2 (which you'd expect it for a finale of the first game) and unnecessarily bring back Santiago, even though his story ended on Extinction.

ember solar
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Ark animated series does not retcon ark game lore in my opinion, it is a different story based off of the notes in my opinion, it just has to be consistent to itself and be a good story in my opinion not follow the notes like they are law

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as long as it still tells a good story

lyric tendon
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in my opinion (x3)

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Jokes aside

This is more of the Book vs Anime vs Holliwood Adaptation tbh

mental basin
ember solar
gusty turret
tender wasp
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He didn't add it after he left. He only explained the ideas behind it and what he had as lore which he gave to WC (regarding to him) and as long it is not changed by WC in some other Ark game it still stands.

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Like he for example had planned to have artifical memories and not the memories of real people only ispired by real people, which was changed by WC to real memories of real people put in their clonded body or in a body.

hasty creek
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Its taming now

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Sorry wrong channel

lyric tendon
tender wasp
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Not anymore.. now they are the copy of real memories of real people that existed.

stray knoll
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Canologically, back when there were more humans alive than just 1, and there for with also a thusly an entire tribe of humans could be celebrating Thanksgiving...

What would such a thing look like?
Perhaps this question is better suited in a concept art channel.

lyric tendon
stray knoll
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Just like the battle that took place during the first thanksgiving?

hasty creek
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The battle in ww2 at Christmas were they played football

lyric tendon
stray knoll
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How long do they continue to care about the how or the why?

lyric tendon
stray knoll
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Ah, makes sense, of course they will start caring again when the fact that they are on a weird place directly attacks them. Even humans have their moments of thinking with logistics instead of only emotions and instincts.

lyric tendon
stray knoll
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Just like my green scaled cousins?

lyric tendon
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?

stray knoll
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Tiamas achuak darastrix.

lyric tendon
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??

stray knoll
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Sorry, Green Dragons. Among my evil brethren.

lyric tendon
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🤷

stray knoll
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Never mind. I can't explain here with the bot.

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You can direct message me if you want.

lyric tendon
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I prefer keep my DMs for people i am familiar with

gusty turret
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The only memorable thing i remember happening on Christmas was the Battle of the Buldge

stray knoll
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Understandable. I'm still traumatized from what happened last time I DMed someone without asking first.

hasty creek
stray knoll
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You don't want to know.

hasty creek
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It was that traumatising

stray knoll
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I'm just glad I now have friends who can keep me safe should I encounter those people again.

hasty creek
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I think i know what it is

gusty turret
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I wanna know

devout ruin
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Not sure where this would go but i'm making some 'fake' explorer notes revolving around a vetenarian/zoologist who takes a strong interest in Tek creatures.

In theory would long term exposure to element dust potentially cause side effects?

gusty turret
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Element dust is edible so i honestly don't think so?

hasty creek
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I would imagine its like a very small dose of poison

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Wouldn't kill you

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But u might feel weird

gusty turret
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Its healing when used in recipes

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So quite the opposite

hasty creek
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Oh

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What recipe?

gusty turret
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Custom ones

hasty creek
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Oh

gusty turret
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Like where you put the note in the cooking pot and make your own, yeah it heals

hasty creek
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How

devout ruin
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I had no idea it was edible

hasty creek
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The feroxes are on too something

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They dont dig up ele dust as a gift they want us to eat it

heavy sandal
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like when a cat brings you a half dead lizard. ferox is teaching you how to get ripped

hasty creek
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Exactly

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My kitten gives me flies she chewed

devout ruin
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Same with how Snow owls, Manas, and Velonasaurs seem to be in symbiosis with it

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Hmm now debating if my character may have landed in the ark where Feroxes were originally from. She saw them attracted to the dust her tek pets produced as a byproduct. Tamed a few- started to experiment with Element as an edible and in small amounts it seems to be beneficial!

But long term exposure is something else entirely.

vague tiger
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I have a question who are the people that made sanctuary on extinction and how did they make the city terminals

gusty turret
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We can assume the URE are the creators of sanctuary and the city terminals are just a game feature

vague tiger
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Better yet why make the sanctuary in the 1st place I mean I get it corrupted creatures no where else to go blah blah blah (assuming the snow and desert arks didn’t fall from the sky) and where did the Titans come from anyway on a meteor?

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Ik terminals are a game feature but still they basically made the technology to literally travel arks why couldn’t they just transfer to like island or something get a Rex or something and just take care of the corrupted creatures

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My lord I have thousands of questions I’m sorry XD

gusty turret
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Sanctuary was built before the corruption started
The three arks were experimental and never launched
The titans were formed after the corruption started which wasn't till element was discovered on the meteor and used as a weapon
Transferring isn't canon

vague tiger
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Oh

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I’m sorry idk what’s canon and what ain’t

gusty turret
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The titans are manifestations of the corruptions maliciousness, they form out of thin air due to high concentrations of element "spores" in the air that allows them to

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But yeah all hope was lost on Earth, they had to build the ship and the Arks, they couldn't weaponize the dinosaurs because they were completely overwhelmed

vague tiger
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Wait why build the sanctuary before the discovery of element and corrupted creatures

gusty turret
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It was built after the discovery of element but before the corruption was bad

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It was a city turned lab for testing overseers as far as i can tell

vague tiger
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Oh

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So they were basically make bosses to guard said arks

gusty turret
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Yeah

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As seen in the banner translations

vague tiger
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Just a quick question

gusty turret
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It also appeared to be under constant attack from an unknown force, likely corruption

vague tiger
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So ur telling me they made bosses in the sanctuary and would basically send them in a ark to act as a guardian

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And I’m assuming they weren’t difficult to put in said arks

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Correct?

gusty turret
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It wasn't like they could just make them tho, the overseers still had humanity when they were first made

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The overseer is like a cyborg

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Homodeus and robot mix

vague tiger
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So if they made a cyborg that’s strong as a dump truck

gusty turret
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And as far as i can tell theres about 200 Arks in total

vague tiger
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Why not have them fight of the Titans that manifested

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Off*

gusty turret
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Because there were like thousands they just weren't as big as the ones we had to fight

vague tiger
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Still they had the same attacks I’m guessing plus all the better drones and better defence units

gusty turret
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Plus loads of smaller corrupted creatures, and the corruption was everywhere, they couldn't just kill some stuff and get rid of it

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Why they couldn't just activate the Arks instantly and purge it is a plothole

vague tiger
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Also if sanctuary was a lab why have “enforcers” before u say to kill any escaped experiment they are only strong against a human

gusty turret
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No enforcers have a large damage buff against corrupted

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It was for protection

vague tiger
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I see

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Never knew that tbh

gusty turret
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But once Arat prime fell, i think they kinda just gave up

vague tiger
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But what about the non corrupted creatures they strong against them too

gusty turret
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They weren't taming dinosaurs they were fighting the corruption with robots and manpower

vague tiger
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I’m not asking if they were taming dinosaurs

devout ruin
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Last time I recall the dinos are products of the ark. They didn't exist while all the corruption was going on.

vague tiger
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I’m asking were they using enforcers to fight said dinosaurs

gusty turret
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They did on the experimental arks

devout ruin
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I think Neddy the Noodle has some pretty good lore videos to explain some of the stuff in bite sized chunks.

vague tiger
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Neat

gusty turret
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Extinction is really confusing because Marc didn't get to explain it fully and as hed like to

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Theres a lot of plotholes and things thay just aren't answered at all

stray knoll
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Male Ferox: "My cute form is the cutest thing on the island. There is no way she could resist me."

Female Ferox: "You want me to mate with that? Are you serious? Alright, but I'll need drugs."

vague tiger
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Also question who was the dude that made a whole castle in rag and why is it mostly intact

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XD Facts

stray knoll
vague tiger
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Neat

heavy sandal
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the free dlc maps arent cannon. you'd have to ask the mod creators that build them the story behind it

stray knoll
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That's so sad.

heavy sandal
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they werent made by wild card, so it's hard to fit them into the lore

vague tiger
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Female detox knows they have to be on the same level of high to mate

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Ferox*

heavy sandal
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when will there be viagra for women

stray knoll
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A what?

gusty turret
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Tomorrow at 4:32 pm cst

devout ruin
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Welp thanks for reminding me about Feroxes. My fake explorer notes will definitely be my dumb lady thinking Element is some sort of ore with enhancement drug like qualities... obviously it was MEANT to be eaten.

gusty turret
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I wanna drink the soup on Ab

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They never tried drinking it

stray knoll
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Element mixed with azurberry

heavy sandal
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strawberry milllkkkk

stray knoll
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Now don't be silly, only flying reptiles produce milk, that's basic biology. Moron noises

devout ruin
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I mean you just told me element dust is edible- in theory an entire population of Ark survivors could accidentally make element infused tea and coffee and drink it every day after realizing it has healing and stam effects.

Long term exposure is probably why that Ark went to hell though.

stray knoll
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I mean, element is basically the Green Ooze from War Of The Monsters except in Ark Lore form.

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If there are any uncultured heathen who have not heard of War Of The Monsters I cannot lead you unto the light, for that would require a link.

devout ruin
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Def gonna look it up- cause by the end of my fan lore the few that survived the element induced nightmare caused on accident from people getting addicted to it (after seeing the Ferox and not realizing the nature of Element) results in the Homo Elementus subspecies. Aka humans but with traits akin to snow owls and manas when it comes to those tendril parts.

hasty creek
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Cant belive the book of genesis copied ark genesis smh😤

winged wigeon
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Hopefully eventually the animated series will clarify all of this

gusty turret
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It'll probably just make the plotholes worse

bronze turtle
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the animated series is gonna end up being about vindiago on crystal isles taming a corrupted master controller

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not too many plotholes

devout ruin
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Calling it now the animated series will be more of an AU spinoff.

lyric tendon
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sounds like it

devout ruin
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Also for art reasons- would element infused lifeforms have a purple or blue glow? Owls and Manas have blue yet corrupteds have purple. And in this particular case I'm wondering what kind of glow color a mutated survivor would have.

latent fractal
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The way I understand it is element exists as different versions. You have the blue element which is what our tek items use and what you can see in the element infused creatures on ext. then you have the gen 2 versions which are purple, purple element is the more dangerous like the element pools down on abb its corrupted. Basically blue is good, purple is corrupted.

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Could be wrong here though so feel free to correct me

latent fractal
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To phrase it better blue element is not really active, purple element is. which is why blue element is safe to use as long as u don't use too much like what happened in the tek wars and caused the corruption.

hasty creek
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Molten element is runny corruption

devout ruin
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Hmm maybe Homo Elementus is more akin to the ferox. Maybe when passive they have a weak lavender- but when agitated it turns a more intense shade of purple. Just bouncing ideas for some fan made dossiers/explorer notes of a group of survivors who after ascending from the island wound up in the Ferox homeland and had NO idea what element really was and began to use it in drink and food recipes for buffs- in moderate amounts but long term exposure kinda did things to them.

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Just playing with the lore- and the tribe in the north Nerva mentioned. The Howling wolf tribe as I'm doing it was led by a Viking warchief so very celtic looking fan-explorer notes from his view. Their ally was a modern vetenary/zoologist/critter breeded who became engrained with studying the newly appearing Tek creatures. they planed to use a bred army of tek creatures to take down Nerva but we all know he never went back to defend his tribe. So the Howling wolf became the dominant tribe after storming the capital and some months later they too began to fight the Ark bosses and made it to the overseer- and ascended to a 'frozen' ark (Ironically the opposite of Scorched) and when they discovered the Ferox they began to experiment with making element tinged drinks to get berserker boosts ETC. Obviously no one realized what they were playing with until it was too late.

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Sketching out some basics right now, but I think giving them higher fortitude and attack compared to normal humans- but increased appetites/faster draining stamina due to more intense metabolism would be a good tradeoff. Probably enhanced senses as well. Now debating if the survivors from that Ark would have become mostly nocturnal to evade running into normal survivors to evade any potential conflicts.

stray knoll
latent fractal
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Pretty sure its from the animated series trailer

lyric tendon
stray knoll
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Ah, ok.

devout ruin
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I mean dude is clearly a beach bob if his most deadly mount is a raptor.

lyric tendon
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i mean he was killed by helena's melee arrow

devout ruin
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WITH FLAK armor at that. Clearly a beach bob.

stray knoll
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Raptors may suck as mounts in terms of stamina in combat, but unburdened by a human rider I had one solo 5 daeodons before the Valkyries carried him off to Valhalla.

lyric tendon
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no alpha tribe uses a raptor

bronze turtle
lyric tendon
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if that bob is from The New Legion im laughing my ass off

bronze turtle
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flak doesnt protect neck

stray knoll
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Um, dude, The New Legion was an alpha tri... wait I just got the joke.

lyric tendon
bronze turtle
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new legion bobs

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but new legion didnt try to kill helena just took her hostage

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helena put down a lot of pillars and the guy in flak was just mad

stray knoll
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Canologically the flack suit is armor that was meant to protect you from the fire arms of the renaissance such as The Longneck Rifle and The Walker Revolver or whatever its called in the game, while The Riot Suit is meant to protect you from modern tungsten tipped bullets.

lyric tendon
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i mean in the notes they do the most real PVP player thing they did

ambushing tribes after a bossfight

stray knoll
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Nero or whatever that guy's name was must have been phycologically traumatized when he tried to hold a pilum in 1 hand and a scotum in the other.

bronze turtle
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i wonder if the animated series is all dlcs

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except gen1 and gen2 because helena isnt there

stray knoll
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Anyone who is actually good at fighting can be an alpha tribe without the use of a single mount.

Same cannot actually be said for an actual player who is using vanilla fighting mechanics.

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Unless they are carrying a lot of bear traps bolases metal spike fenses and have monkeys with ascendant flack helmets.

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Along with a lot of plant species xes for support.

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Only way to be a good fighter as a human is to fight dirty.

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I sometimes wonder if that is on purpose.

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Easiest way to kill wilds as a human is by taking the fight to water, and exploiting their programing to retreat back to shore. And having high stamina and either a spear or pike, so you can aim under their tail as they swim back.

devout ruin
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Only Alpha tribes in the notes are The New Legion and the Howling wolves from the icy regions- albeit the latter were noted to mostly have mammoths and dire wolves. (Possibly yutis)

stray knoll
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What about The Painted Sharks... So named because they... painted sharks...

Which are basically the raptors of the sea in terms of quality mounts sooo, maybe not..

devout ruin
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I mean they went to Rockwell for help and got their asses handed back to them by the New legion- so yes all they had was sharks

stray knoll
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The great thing about mounted combat in water is that skill can actually matter. For example if you are riding a level 1 lizard dolphin you can still destroy a level 300 megalodidn't by dodging all of its attacks and then getting a hit in.
Something you can't usually do on land whether mounted or not.

devout ruin
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I mean same goes for flyers, something as simple as a dodo could be weaponized (aka put bombs on a dodo)

stray knoll
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That's a thing? I would happily burry 600 Plumovias that are set to explode on contact, while because they are a minimum of level 180 still be alive after that then rebury themselves until they get their health back, then switch back to ambush mode, meanwhile there is a rifle behind every blade of grass waiting to finish off whatever survives the dismounting blast.

devout ruin
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People have put explosives on dodos, whistled them to an area- then its button time

stray knoll
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I'd need something more of a explode on impact sort of thing.

stray knoll
dark summit
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d

stray knoll
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Got off my lazy rump and looked it up myself.

Anyway in the beginning I liked Nerva. He started out as one of my favorite characters, with very much justified motives.

However the more powerful he got, the bigger his ego grew, the more his ego grew, the more his sanity shrank. The more his sanity shrank, the less he became one of my favorite characters.

In the end he forgotten everything it means to be the chieftain of a tribe, and just let every single last one of them die. Feeling nothing for them. Double you tea eff!

lyric tendon
stray knoll
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Love you guys.

bronze turtle
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yes to crypto

lyric tendon
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i exhausted all my rage energy on reminding people that WC will not care about abilities for the creature votes

stray knoll
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What? No constructive correcting doesn't have to be aggressive. But eh, your choice what it means to you. I don't give a cow.

bronze turtle
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i aggresively told people to stop hurting my feelings

lyric tendon
stray knoll
bronze turtle
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i was joking

stray knoll
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Ah.

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Personally I prefer to base whether or not something is offensive not on feelings, but on facts. I am a thinking creature. I am above and beyond simply going by primitive animalistic instincts.

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Problem is, once you do this, not getting offended becomes too easy. And that gets boring.

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So, why did Nerva, not give a compy's cloaca that his entire tribe died due to the plot armor of other characters mixed with his inconsiderance and incompetence?

bronze turtle
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what

stray knoll
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... You know, the climax of the first Ark?

bronze turtle
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oh

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i thought you were talking about compy reproduction and somehow nerva was involved

stray knoll
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Its a figure of speech.

bronze turtle
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i probably shouldve figured that out

stray knoll
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XD

bronze turtle
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nerva probably didnt care ig maybe he saw his tribe as disposable? or just didnt care

lyric tendon
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iirc he's a solder not a leader

bronze turtle
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he was a soldier but when put on ark he decided to lea

stray knoll
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In the beginning it seemed like everything he worked for was to improve the lives of savagery with civilization. But then it seemed he considered their lives a means to an end. Believing he can become a god might have had something to do with it. Perhaps, he thought after becoming a god he could resurrect them.

devout ruin
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Nerva flew to close to the sun- he was convinced that once he made it into the overseer lair he'd become a god/be granted power over all the ark.

lyric tendon
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and now he's a crispy Abberant Cesar Salad

stray knoll
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Also, when the player character dies, the Ark transports their soul from their body into their implant into the main data clones a new body puts it in that then teleports them to another part of the ark.

I assume characters could perma die prior to this because such technology didn't exist on the arks yet prior to their being more than 1 human. And the obelisks just tried a different tactic later.

devout ruin
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Its why he started to lose it in those final note- he was in complete despair when he realized everyone had died for NOTHING.

stray knoll
lyric tendon
devout ruin
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People on the ark are clones, its just their memories that get backed up and shoved into a new body every time. Makes me wonder if the Ark can throw out people as younger or older variants at times just to see if they do better or die again ETC

stray knoll
lyric tendon
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we are not 100% sure if the ARKs pre-HD Helena can recycle the Engamic Matrix like the Gen Sim did

stray knoll
devout ruin
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Ever played Soma? I think its a similar thing. There's a memory data bank that just serves as the main base for the clone. And with Santiago its proven that sometimes some variants are lost- the new Santi probably does not have the memories of the former when they were in Extinction.

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But yes considering how the Ark is- if someone dies and the overseer did not like their behavior they could have easily been cloned and 'reset' on another ark with some new variables in hopes they would do better that time.

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I think one lore dive explained that the system could tamper with some memories- its how Santiago does not remember how he designed weapons ETC.

lyric tendon
stray knoll
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The overseer just doesn't like how humans keep coming close to unknowingly destroying the thing that makes the life sustaining atmosphere possible.

lyric tendon
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Nosti is the great example

devout ruin
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I mean there's the saying of 'if it fails try again' I would not be surprised if the Overseer could just clone people at different life stages/ages and effectively having different memories in hopes that maybe this time a prime survivor specimen could come out.

stray knoll
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The more humans keep doing the only thing humans are useful for, the more the overseer starts to wonder why it is suppose to allow them to live and breed if its purpose is to prepare to regaurden earth with life.

devout ruin
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Makes me wonder- if someone was BORN on the Ark do they have implants? Or would they suddenly go poof for like a day and suddenly be back with one?

lyric tendon
devout ruin
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Nanomachines seem to be a thing

stray knoll
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They wouldn't have implants. Although technically humans actually are not able to breed. Just like scorpions and dung beetles.

lyric tendon
lyric tendon
devout ruin
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SE has a pregnant lady

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Its why the raiders had Rockwell hostage, they needed a doctor

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And then he poisoned everyone

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Also you can breed bugs now, and rock drakes. WC was just taking their time.

stray knoll
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Huh, if humans were able to breed, then why not just dominate the ark as an alpha tribe.

"We are the most powerful tribe on the server because we are the best at breeding strong creatures."

"What do you breed?"

"Humans."

"Seriously? Humans aren't strong."

"....."

"As the old saying goes, The human will grunt in pain as he strikes you."

"You ever see what an entire 600 limit of humans on the server can do to another tribe?"

lyric tendon
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enable mating animations

devout ruin
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I mean in theory if only the best humans survive long enough you'd get better humans in the same way you get better dinos by breeding the stronger ones And promoting the rest to meat and hide

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Survival of the fittest. Since its a Rated T game I can see why it wouldn't go into any of that but from a space experiment bio dome standpoint the best survivors might actually be born on the ark rather than be a cloned survivor if the stars align right.

stray knoll
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Make humans who die from a 6 foot drop lose heath from eating raw meat and lose half their health when punching an enemy extinct.

Breed the ones who replace those ones.

Breed the ones who replace those ones.

Now you have orcs.

lyric tendon
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i wish the orcs are just evolved gigantopithecus

stray knoll
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Possibly.

devout ruin
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Ark had so many ideas- could have had corrupted survivors who evolved more without Rockwell's influence. Nah we got Orcs now.

stray knoll
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Orcs are way better anyway to be fair.

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Although the eldrich mutations of corrupted humans are still a great concept.

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Still hoping they would unnerf what you can use as fuel in forges and standing torches. I mean, yes sure it meant that you could fill the enventory of a forge or standing torch with the best stuff and then it can go a real world 3 months before burning out, but what's so wrong with that? Getting said fuel is easy anyway.

Besides, I can make a flame based light source that can keep burning for 3 months in real life too. My only issue is that if I don't have high enough quality metal or stone for holding the fuel it will melt the insert fire holder type.

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Funny how long lasting fires burn so hot.

lyric tendon
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i would imagine someone will utilize it and abuse it

devout ruin
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I mean who knows maybe there is humans who didn't come out of their cloning pods 'perfect' sure the good ring was saved but survivors likely had R variants and shadowmanes on that anyways. And Rockwell did mess around with the gene banks if the missions are anything to go by.

bold dove
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Give me a tl;dr of what we're talking about?

stray knoll
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To be fair its not that big a deal. As I said, getting such fuel is easy. So we have to spend a bit of minuets restocking a fuel holder.

devout ruin
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Multi topic it seems

bold dove
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Huh

devout ruin
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Also after going through a note binge- makes me wonder. On SE Rockwell mentions that if he was younger he could survive in that hellhole like its a joke, and that he killed a tiger with his bare hands. Is that truth or bullshit- or would a younger Edmund just die to the same raptor on the beach for the 20th time after face punching it.

bold dove
stray knoll
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I mean, if we are talking Ark Humans VS Ark Animals, no way in the 9 hells or the 666 layers of the abiss.

If its real world human vs real world tiger, it is technically possible.

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I mean if a human managed to bite a tiger's throat the tiger won't just magically survive that. But all an Ark human could do is punch a tiger and then get the

"You killed yourself".

devout ruin
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I mean that's why I ask, so many beach bobs punch a dilo the death and think they can do the same to a raptor xD

bold dove
stray knoll
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I actually had done that to a raptor once. But that was just before one of the recoil nerfs.

bold dove
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The ARK's weren't naturally respawning survivors. It was a one life trip on the ARK's before Helena changed it.

devout ruin
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I mean Ark is already weird- too cold? the bones in your legs break spontaneously- too hot the bones in your legs break spontaneously.

bronze turtle
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what is the survivor called?

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you know how helena is the one who waits what is the survivor

bold dove
bold dove
bronze turtle
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legit

devout ruin
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Beach Bob

bronze turtle
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no shit the one who tries again

bold dove
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I personally like "The survivor" more.

stray knoll
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Humans in Ark don't even have a body that tries to resist temperature. All that happens is food is consumed faster with that used as an excuse. If you want to see such mechanics done right see The Long Dark.

bronze turtle
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not even the one who tries its the one who tries again

stray knoll
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Its simple, give humans a temperature bar.

bronze turtle
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imagine beating the embodiment of element and saving earth just to be called the one who tries again

bold dove
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Honestly, ARK is more of a Tamagotchi game then a survival game.

stray knoll
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Animals however? Too hot, I'm cozy, too cold? I'm cozy. Its you who is so weak to need to worry about that.

bronze turtle
bold dove
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Not even.
The moment you can click the harvest key, you have infinite food.

devout ruin
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Hmm maybe in my fan explorer notes I might poke fun at that and blame 'imperfect cloning' to blame for odd things that make no sense. How long have the Arks been in space? Without human maintenance? odds are something could be a bit off.

bronze turtle
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howcome helena is the one who waits

stray knoll
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Maybe she is the only one who survived.

bronze turtle
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here i am sitting on my ass waiting for a rex egg to hatch only for it to be useless and have me kill it and wait another 24 hours for my rexes to breed again and then the process repeats

bold dove
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Honestly, i never liked that respawning is canon.
Respawning is a game mechanic that's in every game, and doesn't need to be canon.

bronze turtle
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atleast it has an explanation

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you get the sweet release of death and helena is just like, nah wake up its time for school

bold dove
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Unless the story/plot is literally about the concept of coming back from the dead. Which ARK isn't.

bold dove
stray knoll
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Wait, so did Helena turn into a Homo Duce?

bronze turtle
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homo deuce

bold dove
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Yes

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It's "Homo-Deus"

bronze turtle
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helena is a pos to me

stray knoll
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Its a running joke from a youtube channel.

bold dove
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It's one of those lore bits that if you think too hard about it. You can break it down and get more issues with it then it's worth.

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Respawning, i mean.

bronze turtle
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the only time helena is decent is in the ending cutscene where on xbox, shes just a straight blue polygon

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ending cutscene on extinction

stray knoll
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So wait, Helena is the one who built the Arks, then went back in time and put her self on the arks, so that she can trigger herself eventually building the arks?

bold dove
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Cause if respawning is canon and has no real issues when you respawn. Then you can literally throw yourself at a boss till you wing it.
Nothing was gained for your characters progression, and they lost nothing in the process other then time.

bronze turtle
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wait

bold dove
lyric tendon
bronze turtle
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helena got put on arks and then the thing she did was make the king titan shit his pants and then we came and killed him thousands of years later

stray knoll
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Then why is she the only Homo Duce alive of her species? (Also from what I know of evolution lore evolution doesn't work that way. Its changes with the next offspring.)

bronze turtle
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then she ascended and became homo deus and when she saw us ig she saw potential and kept reviving us until we defeated the king titan

bold dove
bronze turtle
stray knoll
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Was she just one the whole time and never knew it?

bold dove
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She's just the last one to be created. And the only access to become a Homo-Deus is gone.

bronze turtle
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no

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to became a homo deus you are a human on the arks and ig you must do something half decent to become deus man

bold dove
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She didn't do any of that.

bronze turtle
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helena did jack shit but look at animal feces

bold dove
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She had the power of plot armor and died.
Then Mei-Yin brought her to a machine and revived her, and made her into a Homo-Deus.

bronze turtle
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the only reason shes a homo deus is she scared off the king titan

stray knoll
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Ah, so its like, you do something to become a hero and you level up to becoming something more powerful as a reward.

bold dove
bronze turtle
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how did helena die

bold dove
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Don't know where Windooww got that idea from, since that's never stated from what i recall.

bold dove
bronze turtle
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OH

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i thought she scared him off with something

bold dove
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Mei-Yin did that.

stray knoll
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I got to go things to do.

bold dove
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Mei-Yin, Helena, and Diana formed the mega-mek and fought the King-Titan. But Helena got killed in the process while Mei-Yin had the power of anime and scared the literal embodiment of a parasite.

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Mei-Yin deserved to become a Homo-Deus more.

bronze turtle
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hey what ever happened to mei yin

devout ruin
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In theory isn't respawning hell though? Having memories of getting torn by a raptor and NOW YOU CAN DO IT AGAIN

stray knoll
bronze turtle
bold dove
bronze turtle
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of course

bold dove
bronze turtle
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my survivor staring at the level 150 rex at spawn: 😐

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theyre emotionless its horrifying

stray knoll
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I think the most traumatizing thing you could ever encounter is to see a level 300 anything, while having just figured out, you will lever level up past 101.

bronze turtle
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i bet i can beat mei yin in a fight

stray knoll
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Wait, sorry. Nevermind. I forgot that human culture is centered around letting the weak breed.

devout ruin
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I mean Ark has its moments of existential dread once you think about it. The respawn mechanic means you can experience death multiple times.

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To make it worse it gets even more messed up considering everyone is a guinea pig- The overseer wants warriors who have gone through killing other survivors, died multiple times- there is no room for anything else. A group of peeps just want to live peacefully HAHA NOPE (SE)

bronze turtle
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i still wanna know if i can beat mei yin in a fight

devout ruin
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Depends how much points you have in meele

stray knoll
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Peace is a lie, there is only passion.

Yes I'm still here, forgot I can multitask.

bronze turtle
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i have a c4 attached to a raptor

bronze turtle
devout ruin
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I mean... Mei could have had her rex army and she still stuck with craptors.

bronze turtle
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im talking fist fight

devout ruin
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I dunno we don't have any official or hypothetical builds on them.

bronze turtle
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ill for sure mop the ground with mei yin

rigid palm
bronze turtle
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ah shit

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mei is in gcm

devout ruin
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Oh right, godmode. Yep we doomed

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And she'll probably be back in Ark 2. Probably respawned as well.

stray knoll
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200 wolves 400 sabertooths 300 scorpions 700 raptors 800 hyenadons and 500 terror birds attack you, all of them die. A sabertooth witnessed it. Natrually, being a survival focused creature with a mind set only to priorities of survival and self preservation... it attacks you.

Yeah, maybe they have lost all feeling from having also been respawning for millions of years after death.

bronze turtle
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respawned again

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creatures in ark dont respawn

stray knoll
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Then they are just brain dead suicidal nutcases. Theory dead.

devout ruin
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I mean its a potential horror aspect to think about- maybe peeps like Nerva and Rockwell just went nuts from old memories of dying as beach bobs hundreds of times.

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In theory you can get some pretty scary- survival only mindset survivors who the ark would deem 'perfect'

stray knoll
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I have done what they have done for that reason many times.

bronze turtle
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ark doesnt deem me perfect i kill myself just to see if ill get new skins in my inventory

stray knoll
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I mean think about it, I am a Metallic Dragon. I am among a branch of perfect ultament life forms made in the image of Bahamut.

Can you imagine the humiliation of dying as a level 1 human? Can you imagine what that would do to my ego... I mean... sanity?

devout ruin
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I think the explorer notes don't apply to gaming mechanics. I mean Rockwell was pretty nuts already if he went into artifact caves and called it a fun recreation- ah yes the spider infested, bear infested, wolf infested, super rabies hellholes

bronze turtle
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ok guys

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so mei yin would beat me in a fight i just asked other people in a different server and i sent a pic of mei yin

rigid palm
bronze turtle
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perry i bet you would beat mei yin in a fight

rigid palm
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Theres no beating mei admin

bronze turtle
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unplug mei yins console

rigid palm
bronze turtle
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then hit her unconcious body with a pike

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steal armor hit with pike ez

stray knoll
# bronze turtle no youre not

I take it then you must think I'm just a very powerful wizard who's learned True Pollymorph.

Very well. Cast Dispell Magic on me. See what happens.

bronze turtle
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my name legit used to be wizard

rigid palm
stray knoll
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Well that was fun. Anyway helping an alpha carno. He has this, "pain problem".

tender wasp
# devout ruin I mean its a potential horror aspect to think about- maybe peeps like Nerva and ...

When the notes took place, at least for the ones on Island/Scorched/Abs./Ext. there was no respawn protocol until Helena became Homo Deus. There was no chance they could respawn. Only exeption is Diana who could be brough back by Helena but more by accident/luck at that time.
She tried with Santiago, but he was to far gone, so he also stayed dead (the Abs/Ext version).
Gen 2 works different and has a whole new set of "base" survivors, none ver been on the Arks (besides our survivor if we decide so) and would be all new versions if they "respawn agaiiin" and might even be totaly different persons.

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Actually now an excuse to bring every char back if they want, rewriting them as much as they want like they did with Vindiago, who mutated into a generic Vin Diesel char.

lyric tendon
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Vin as Santiago feels like Jeff Besos/Elon Musk in his Original Life, not Tony Stark like what we expect from the ARK Santiago

ornate hull
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Mod maps are Canon it's just the overseer never sees you as good enough to challenge it so you don't ascend

tender wasp
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They are canon in terms that there are other variations of Arks, but they are not really relevant for the story.

ornate hull
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ik

bold dove
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Pretty sure it's never stated anywhere that they are canon. But may be wrong.

lyric tendon
bold dove
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Other ARK's exist, sure. But where does it state the custom-ark's are canon?

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And for all we know. They can be just multiple of the same ARK's, as seen in the Islands and Aberration's endings.
Different models, sure. But mostly the same.

bronze turtle
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im just gonna say that the reason theyre the same is they didnt wanna model tons of them

lyric tendon
bronze turtle
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well all of them are the exact same model

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i mean i wouldnt imagine they make an island, a desert, and then a cave and from there just clone the island for the rest

lyric tendon
bronze turtle
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u can see ab and desert in overseer arena but other than those two the rest are island clones

lyric tendon
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i'm not buying it since the ARKs are just landmasses from Earth getting uprooted, means there is a different island than what is in the story ARK

bronze turtle
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yeah i dont think its lore i just think wc copied the same models

lyric tendon
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and as seen in the cutscene that there are many ARKs surround the world, not orbiting them

lyric tendon
bronze turtle
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no need to model a ton of different arks if youre only gonna be visiting another 2

stray knoll
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I decided to play regular Ark for a moment because I forgot how it felt to encounter a loot drop. It got me thinking. Have you noticed that's where Plomoveas spawn?

lyric tendon
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???

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Purlovias?

stray knoll
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Yes.

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Sorry, typing tripping.

bronze turtle
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purlovias spawn in redwoods and snow

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there are a ton around my base

stray knoll
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Don't you just love it when you suddenly hear the swamp ambiance track in the snow biom?

gusty turret
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There is a little swampy area on the southern borders of snow

gusty turret
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But yeah i also chose to believe that the background Arks all looking exactly like the island was just a decision to save time and money in animating the cutscenes

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If you're gonna repopulate the Earth do you want them to all to be adapted to a tropical island or do you want them to be adapted to the environment they would be in once the Earth was rocked back into rotation

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Or maybe they just had some lazy ass overseers who didn't give a shit

lyric tendon
gusty turret
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Its not about comfort its about trying to prepare people for survival, which can't be done on an island that is like 75% tropical/jungle

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And why would there just be a random desert and huge cave system in the mix?

wooden snow
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They want the survivors to be ready for anything I guess. I mean earth is an absolute cluster fuck so might as well throw in every biome just in case.

timid ridge
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Ofc

hasty creek
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Everbiome but an actual radioactive hellscape

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And dont say thats ab because ab wasn't intended to be like that

stray storm
# lyric tendon ARKstralia model exist

you're talking about that one picture with the ark model that's got australia on it? that one I made as a joke, using a heightmap of australia. it doesn't natively exist in the game.

bold dove
stray storm
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I peek in here occasionally 🧱

bold dove
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Pog

red mist
lyric tendon
gusty turret
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Im still kinda salty somehow Santiago was too far gone but Diana wasn't

bold dove
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And then brought him back anyway.

gusty turret
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Maybe it had something to do with him already being cloned or something?

lyric tendon
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something something engram

gusty turret
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It would make sense that as he was continuously cloned his matrix would lose integrity so it would be harder to bring him back

lyric tendon
tender wasp
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Maybe it had to do were he died (Earth) or how he died.

gusty turret
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Maybe she tried to pull back the wrong Santiago?

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And the distance+decay of matrix made it impossible

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Probably not im just spitting out randomness before i go to bed

tender wasp
# gusty turret Maybe she tried to pull back the wrong Santiago?

I doubt it, cause the Abs/Ext Santiago is still dead and at that time it was still Marc who wrote the story and I think he never planned on bringing Santiago back. Helena also states in the notes (the one who waits) that bringing back Diana was more an accident and luck.

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It simply was not possible like with many others. She explains that it took her a lot of time to be able to bring back people on a reliant base.

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But all of this is one of the reasons I personaly think that making respawn canon did the Lore no good and in general is not a good idea.

copper gorge
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I don’t know if this is the right channel for it but, can someone explain to me how corruption can fabricate creatures out of thin air when (from what I know at least) it is meant to be like a zombie virus thing-

lament mural
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I think that’s more of just a gameplay mechanic, are there explorer notes stating that the corrupted creatures can materialize out of thin air?

unborn beacon
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Can someone explain how tf the moon broke?
For those that doesn't believe me I have a ss of it

lyric tendon
unborn beacon
gleaming sky
# copper gorge I don’t know if this is the right channel for it but, can someone explain to me ...

The corruption is basically corrupt Element on any living organism. Since the corrupted creature is now a part of the Element hive mind, Element can just simply put it where it needs to be. This explains the troop movements that Diana mentioned about how the Titans and Corrupted Creatures surround something before completely destroying the target. But in terms of getting fabricated out of thin air, Element in-lore was the 3rd most common chemical Element on Earth and is deep in Earth's crust. It is even ahead of aluminium and iron, two common metals found today. Aluminum and iron are frequently used in many technology and products. So, the creature will get summoned anywhere where there is a high enough concentration of Element for them to be put at a location. In-game, the Forbidden zone will have a high element concentration relative to the Wasteland due to the high number of large corrupted creatures like corrupted rexes, corrupted gigas, and corrupted wyverns.

copper gorge
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that explains literally e v e r y t h i n g I ever wanted to know about extinction-

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I assume that’s how the titans can just appear then

ornate hull
gleaming sky
# copper gorge I assume that’s how the titans can just *appear* then

The Titans in Extinction as noted by Diana's explorer notes are dubbed "artificial hyperfaunal entities" since they are completely made of Element, so they will spread Element anywhere they go. Since the proto-ARK systems have Element inside them, summoning any of the 3 titans will cause Element to be released safely into the Proto-ARKs to summon them. In the case of the King Titan, a very high Element concentration is needed to summon it through killing the 3 Titans and fighting it in the Forbidden zone where Element is at its highest concentration. Since the King Titan is controlling all the Element on Earth, a massive surge of Element pops and glows purple in the background to help the King Titan fight whatever is trying to kill it. When the King Titan is charging up for its super attack, it is pulling the energy from the Element spikes to charge its attack. The Alpha King Titan's metallic design is like the Element pillars, implying that all titans are made of Element.

gusty turret
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I don't think alpha king titan is canon i think it was just supposed to be a jab at mecha godzilla-

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Is there actually a scar visible on the king titans chest I've never paid enough attention during the fight to notice?

manic yoke
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They should add a dodo that does 100000 damage and is agressive and has infinite range

gusty turret
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Thats just trying to play on an Asia server

manic yoke
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LOL

fallow sapphire
gusty turret
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Ah yes im so glad they omitted that detail that would honestly make the fight a good bit cooler

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Mei and Diana didn't die for this shit

copper gorge
gusty turret
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not quite

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laughs in Mei slaughtering a good 95% of them with a half broken mek

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then Mei and Diana taking a mega mek and killing the rest

lyric tendon
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Nah mei just using desrroywilddinos

gusty turret
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What is the realistic measurements for the distance extinction occurs across

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Like that map is obviously way way too small to fit

bronze turtle
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is it just a running joke that mei has admin or did it just happen one day

tender wasp
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It is a running gag cause she tamed a Rock Drake instead the need of collecting an egg for example.

lyric tendon
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And managed to get a giga to a boss arena in the island while we are not allowed to

bronze turtle
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givetome and sdf gigant 1 0 0

hot steppe
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Btw Helena sacrificed her self to kill Rockwell prime

ornate hull
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No hlna did

bronze turtle
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Santiago

bronze turtle
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yeah helena is just vibing somewhere

hasty creek
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Helena in creative rn

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Wait

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Could helena find us in ark 2?

gusty turret
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Nah

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She was staying back on Earth to see if she could do anything to help

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Im honestly confused how she could modify the megamek to only require 1 pilot

bold dove
gusty turret
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God like

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She couldn't even communicate with the defense units or enforcers

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Shes as much of a god as Rockwell was

bold dove
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Still doesn't excuse that she somehow did other stuff. I.E the megamek

hasty creek
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Rockwell is a demigod

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I learned that from moana

bronze turtle
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me too

gusty turret
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She doesn't even wanna call it godhood because of how little she can actually do

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She mentions in one of the notes that its like watching the universe from behind a glass pane

bronze turtle
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imagine being able to see everything happen but not be able to do jack shit

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rockwell was more of a god than helena then

lyric tendon
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Homo deus can only manipulate Tek stuff like HLNA, the Overseer, and the Mega Mek

gleaming sky
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HLN-A mentioned that Helena left the Genesis Simulation after making her. HLN-A noted that the Homo deus went to a realm that no one can reach and Helena described it in her dreams. Where she went might be answered in ARK 2. As there was some ARK 2 concept portraying Homo deus like energy in the art.

bold dove
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is the gensis final boss based off of a character

tender wasp
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It is Rockwell

scenic flicker
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who is rockwell referring to when he says "the same power she squandered"

lyric tendon
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Probably Master Controller?

Or Ab but i'm pretty sure that's Mei's fault on the Ab one

shut bloom
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Helena Walker. In the Genesis 2 Chronicles, he mentioned how Helena had her own way to become a god as a Homo deus. Rockwell expected her to be self indulgent with her power, but she actually used it to help Earth and faded away in the process.

gusty turret
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The Chronicles make no sense because theres no way he could know she's homodeus

ornate hull
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if rockwell is the overseer of ab then he would have access to all the archives and knows what a homodeus is and probably figured out quickly that we were respawning so using his big brain he probably put two and two together

bronze turtle
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how can helena make us respawn if she can only manipulate tek and element products

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unless tek human

fallow sapphire
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Cause… we are cloned. Tek is used to clone us

gusty turret
gusty turret
ornate hull
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And didn't he say in his final note I am this ark it is my body I control it

gusty turret
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Don't you think he would've absolutely destroyed their attempt to escape if he could've?

ornate hull
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No because he also said something like I am thankful they put me in my thrown and ill let them leave as appreciation but anyone else who challenges me will meet my fury

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Some shit like that I don't remember

gusty turret
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Ah yes his fury shoots slow zappy balls at us and leaves his heart exposed

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Rockwell and Rockwell prime are like the weakest bosses

gusty turret
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Could've just been playing himself up to be all tough and merciful

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That would be a Rockwell play

ember solar
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Or maybe they wanted to make the boss fight winnable snd not impossible

fallow sapphire
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Why would they do that?

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Impossible bosses are 10x more fun

ember solar
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Tell that to the guy who spent 50 hours looking for an alpha reaper

fallow sapphire
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Only 50?

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But thats not really an impossible boss, just impossible tribute collection

lyric tendon
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the tribute is an ass to find but rockwell is easy AF

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couldn't blame the ARK tho Rockwell wants to be free with his new found power

devout ruin
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Rockwell just drank the forbidden purple soup and went on a rampage obviously.

lyric tendon
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no he drank the glowing kool-aid and he starts seeing everything that he can't comprehend in mortal mind at the time

devout ruin
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Makes me wonder- are we actually facing Rockwell or is he partially hive minded to element so he's just doing its will and not even noticing he's being used.

lyric tendon
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he's basically Rockwell but a parasite trying to control him

basically like Venom

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he embraces it in Gen tho

devout ruin
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I mean I figured, how else did he go from sassy jerkface to complete genocidal maniac in record time? Probably element hivemind does play a part to a degree.

bronze turtle
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so were organic but cloned by the ark just like how a dino is cloned in a tek cloning chamber

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and helena being a homo deus can manually clone us everytime we die

gusty turret
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I don't think she manually does it im pretty sure it happens on its own

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She just implemented the feature to allow us to do it ourselves

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After she figured out how to do it

bronze turtle
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so helena did a do and we respawn when we want

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what if i never click respawn (random location)

lyric tendon
gusty turret
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And the "resources" that are used to craft us a new body are the same resources that would be used to purge the element from the ground, as mentioned in the one who waits notes

bronze turtle
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i purged the element

gusty turret
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It says somewhere about how if we do it too many times the reseeding will never be complete

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And respawning is no longer possible after reseeding

bronze turtle
gusty turret
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Its unconfirmed if we actually respawn on the ship or not so there no comment on gen 2

bronze turtle
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well yeah the story after extinction was like something i would write in a comic book in grade 2

gusty turret
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It really would just be better if we pretended gen 2 didn't happen

bronze turtle
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story was good but the connection was horrible to the others

gusty turret
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Gen 1 was alright but i wish they wouldn't have recycled Rockwell or Santiago

bronze turtle
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i feel like if they really made a dlc after extinction it would be a slightly more purified earth with all of the arks on it as just a giant ass map

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final boss would be rockwell prime or something

gusty turret
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Nah consoles and any pc that wasn't liquid cooling top tier processor couldn't handle that

bronze turtle
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yeah

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whats the connection between gen and extinction anyway

gusty turret
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Unclear if there is any besides Rockwell and Helena

bronze turtle
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i bet its some engrammic matrix shit

gusty turret
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We don't know if its the same survivor or not so🤷‍♂️

bronze turtle
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doesnt have to be but it doesnt not have to be

gusty turret
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Yeah its up to us

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I wish the new writer would actually give us some stuff tho

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It would be so much better if there weren't so many plotholes

bronze turtle
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okay what do u think is the connection

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i think idk one day our engrammic matrix was put into the genesis simulation and a new body was generated with the same mind or some shit

lyric tendon
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we kinda verified that we DO respawn in gen 2 but what is the purpose exactly?, maintaining the ship?, replacing the dead crews?
trying to make the biosphere in the rings stable?

bronze turtle
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the bobs that made the ship decided so ig

gusty turret
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As far as i can tell Helena beamed us into the simulation via arat prime to combat Rockwell who she knew was attacking the ship because of HLNA?

bronze turtle
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but hlna didnt exist before we got there

lyric tendon
gusty turret
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Yeah she did

lyric tendon
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Helena doesnt exist but HLNA did

gusty turret
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HLNA was there im guessing a few weeks before us?

bronze turtle
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in the trailer she said she would leave us a tek fragment of herself

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to help us

gusty turret
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Don't trust the trailers

lyric tendon
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the trailers have no connection to the lore

bronze turtle
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well shit

gusty turret
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The trailer was made like 2 years before gen 2s release so after reasonable modification in that time period it has 0 connection

bronze turtle
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fair

gusty turret
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We know HLNA was there before us due to Nida's and Gabriels notes

bronze turtle
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hlna was with nida and gabriel?

lyric tendon
bronze turtle
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i didnt care about gen2 notes because no helena no rockwell me sad

gusty turret
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Shes mentioned as an intruder in the system in Nida's notes and an angelic voice calling him to kill Rockwell in Gabriel's notes

bronze turtle
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lmao

lyric tendon
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angelic voice is an overstatement

bronze turtle
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its an overstatement

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imagine having some woman in your head tell you to kill angry man

lyric tendon
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HLNA sounds like a genderswapped ARK Santiago with a sas of an Australian

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In Genesis: Part 2 lore, Nida was in the Genesis Simulation when she spotted Helena. By the time she boxed Helena/HLN-A, only HLN-A was there. Following that, Rockwell appeared and started turning the ship into meat. HLN-A was stuck in the Genesis Simulation. Nida and Gabriel talked with HLN-A on separate occasions.

bronze turtle
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okay so while nida and gabriel were doing shit we were in simulation?

gusty turret
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No Rockwell was there at the same time

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She assumed HLNA was the one doing the damage that Rockwell was doing

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She also mentioned going to the corrupted ring in one of her first notes and getting soil samples

steel robin
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Corrupted dinos are sick

bronze turtle
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corrupted dinos are corrupted

gleaming sky
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Rockwell was able to hack into HLN-A throughout Genesis, which is why Nida thought HLN-A was the one making the Colony Ship malfunction. This same feat made him able to manipulate Gabriel through his Ixion subconscious to have him find Nida.

bronze turtle
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well hlna is a pos anyway

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id assume to had it not been for this channel

gusty turret
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I don't think Rockwell manipulated him to find Nida?

bronze turtle
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i dont think in general, ark lore confuse

gusty turret
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Nida saw him through the ships security system and tracked him down last time i checked

bronze turtle
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who even is nida

steel robin
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Nidoran the Pokemon or like so person from explorer notee

bronze turtle
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nidoran the ark character

ornate hull
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Hlnaxrockwell

bronze turtle
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matt

gusty turret
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This isn't Google Matt

ornate hull
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Yes@bronze turtle

bronze turtle
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i think i found ur youtube channel

ornate hull
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Because I have it linked in to discord?

bronze turtle
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wait u do

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damn

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i didnt find it through that i found it through a comment on ark ost

ornate hull
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Oh dam

bronze turtle
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ive seen so many people through youtube comments its crazy

lyric tendon
gusty turret
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She's also a vent rat

bronze turtle
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will i beat nida in a fight

gusty turret
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Nida is an imposter from among us

bronze turtle
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great

lyric tendon
gusty turret
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It's never proven that was her was it?

bronze turtle
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Nida is a Colony Ship soil scientist. Her point of view is to depict at how Rockwell was taking over the ship. She was depicted in Gabriel's notes and her fate is unknown. She is most likely dead as HLN-A noted that a crew member survived almost long enough to make a ring separation sequence and in her notes, she studied on the engineering of ring separation. However, the each Colony Ship crew member was smart enough to get around the ship, so she may have faked her death and went into hiding.

lyric tendon
gusty turret
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Oh I've never noticed that

bronze turtle
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i will beat nida in a fight as long as it is not in a simulation

gusty turret
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No she's an imposter she'll one tap you

lyric tendon
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so basically, she made the DodoRex and the Mek Knight riding a stryder

gusty turret
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Why would she do that

lyric tendon
heavy sandal
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it's funny probably

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better than staring at dirt all day

gusty turret
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I have made a turtle have a seizure from boredom I've never created a giant robot mek

bronze turtle
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lmao

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so whats the story behind yongki

gusty turret
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He was an asshole then he became depressed and kamikazed himself and Santiago

lyric tendon
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if events and the chronicles are canon it makes me think what we experienced in the ARKs and Earth is a replay of Helena's moments through HLNA while we are in the simulation

bronze turtle
ornate hull
bronze turtle
ornate hull
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It's pure ear rape

gusty turret
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Im going to now

bronze turtle
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yeah same

gusty turret
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I'll leave feedback on every video

bronze turtle
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heah thats what she said

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tropeognathus is available now

ornate hull
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The video compression fucked up

bronze turtle
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was the audio supposed to be like this

ornate hull
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No

bronze turtle
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its actually good

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the audio fixes itself halfway thru

gusty turret
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heAh thats what shE sAiD

bronze turtle
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the audio got messed up again

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why do u have so many skins got damn

ornate hull
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I have all the achievements

bronze turtle
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i like to have someone follow me just like the police followed me back to my home

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youre actually hilarious when i can understand

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best ark content creator

gusty turret
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The audio quality is whats cracking me up

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Loud=funny

ornate hull
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I would continue it but I deleted the world awhile ago

gusty turret
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as we spawn in

bronze turtle
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its the audio quality and the jokes hes making

gusty turret
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Wow some high quality narration

bronze turtle
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actually no joke this is good

gusty turret
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Matt if you can get the audio to be this bad and do a playthrough of literally anything i would sit through it all

ornate hull
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It's funny because everything was a voice over I was just watching my stream and commenting on it

bronze turtle
ornate hull
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I might be able to

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I don't have the same set up anymore

bronze turtle
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which sIDe of the riVer shOuld we lIve on, the lEFt or the rIGHt

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yeah the ice cave is bad

gusty turret
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thas not gud

bronze turtle
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raptor on my ass, right now, we dont know that currently

gusty turret
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the clicks, the clacks, the clankers

bronze turtle
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this is great

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why would u build there theres no water

gusty turret
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chokes on mic

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thats some damn good mac n cheese

bronze turtle
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lmao

gusty turret
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Hes getting messed up by scorpions

bronze turtle
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yeah its sad shark bait died

gusty turret
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yoUrE gOnnA mAke A fiNe cheesebUrGer one day BoY

ornate hull
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Yes

gusty turret
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Episode 2

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This is better than Syntac

ornate hull
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Perhaps

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Unfortunately its only a 2 parter

gusty turret
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monkey noises as beating a raptor to death

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This simply isn't what Manifest Destiny is at all

ornate hull
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Manifest destiny

gusty turret
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I don't think it allows you to take peoples car keys

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And i don't think it was invented by George Washington

ornate hull
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I'll have to rewatch em I don't remember any of it

rigid palm
lyric tendon
gusty turret
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I thought it was just "survive......."

steel robin
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The ark

ornate hull
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.com

bronze turtle
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Davayyyyy

gusty turret
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Ayup

bronze turtle
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daveyyyy

gusty turret
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I know I don't know you

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Snoot wants to watch sausage party with the homies

bronze turtle
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wondering will ark 2 be same survivor or not

lyric tendon
bronze turtle
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im thinking so because we fall down to the planet in the ascension

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idk, ill be modeling my new survivor off my old one in ark 2 anyway lol

rocky quest
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What if it’s a single player game?

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I don’t think so tho because ark makes most of its profit off of being multiplayer with servers and all

bronze turtle
rocky quest
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Same tbh

flint palm
bronze turtle
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i imagine that multiplayer is going to be more buggy, but i think it will exist

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yeah they said multiplayer sandbox game

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they said it so weirdly

flint palm
bronze turtle
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proud to announce ark 2 openworld sandbox survival game starring vin diesel

flint palm
rocky quest
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I’m really curious if graphics are gonna be good

bronze turtle
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on xbox yeah

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its optimized for xbox series x and s not pc

flint palm
rocky quest
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Oh okay thx

gusty turret
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Its gonna be dog on PlayStation

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If it ever comes out on PlayStation

lyric tendon
flint palm
bronze turtle
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if its even released on ps, i bet it will be

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yeah im expecting just next gen

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i cant wait for all the pc ark youtubers to play ark 2 and watch their 3k pc go up in flames

flint palm
rocky quest
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Hopefully I got ps5 by then

ember solar
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Max graphics will probably look similar to the trailer

bronze turtle
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yeah