lore-nerdz

[lyric tendon]

ooh i know: the tribe/community support

[rustic rose]

how did you know about the players of ark? idk about them anywhere

i know nothing

[tender wasp]

probably a hint you should read lore and inform yourself before you try to discuss it.

[lyric tendon]

alright time to redo the list

the "ARK players in a nutshell" roster

Helena = the typical PVE bob
Mei = the Solo Alpha (also a cheater)
Nerva = the Megatribe Leader
Rockwell = the Insider
John = the raid defender
Raia/Wali = the Roleplayer
Diana = the community supporter
Santiago = the Exploiter/ "Tips and Tricks" Guy
Gabriel = the "aggressive dodo" PTSD player
Nida = the Modder
HLN-A = the annoying know-it-all but didn't do squat

[rustic rose]

is bob short or no

[lyric tendon]

bob is us

[rustic rose]

ok

[mental basin]

Factual.

[mild blade]

im trying to get all the notes on the island but for some reason HLN-A is not poping up any reasons why?

[latent fractal]

HLN-A is not an character for the island, her notes are on genesis 1 and 2, she has some chronicles notes on other maps though @mild blade

[mild blade]

there is three chronicle notes that i need to get on the island but they are not showing up

[fallow sapphire]

Do you have the HLN-A skin equipped?

[mild blade]

yes

[fallow sapphire]

Unless you previously unlocked them I’m not sure

[bold dove]

Not the channel.

[vague cedar]

what did the survivor (mei yin, helena, rockwell, nerva) do when they ascend from the island

[hasty valley]

Scorched Earth

[plain plover]

the same thing you did when you beat island

[tender wasp]

Scorched earth for Rockwell and Helena, Nerva gets killed by Mei and Mei directly goes to Abs.

[bold dove]

Technically Nerva goes to Aberration also.
But he experiences what it's like to be on Scorched. 👀

[tender wasp]

More how it is to be scorched XD

[bold dove]

You could say he became what the maps embodies

[gusty turret]

They vented to Aberration

[bold dove]

Jesus Christ, we're still on about that?

[plain plover]

[bold dove]

[gusty turret]

Im never done with it

[bold dove]

Of course you're not

[bronze turtle]

Nerva is a frog

[worn bluff]

Aberration is cool.
I don’t know what people are talking about.

[gusty turret]

Aberration is sus

[astral cedar]

yep

[ornate hull]

Domo arigoto mr roboto

[modest willow]

shoots rockwell
Gnaaaagh i can'tbe defedeat by the likes of you! No. NO! I am the vessel, and it is me!
Damn i should've calculated for this posibility. Must have missed a tranform on the 15 statistical outcome matrix...
Ehhh simply put: rockwell impedded himself too deeply into the ships primary sistems they're failing along with him. there's...only one way one way to ensure this ends here.
Sorry mate i can't come with.
And i'm almust out of time to back myself up.
You would do just fine on your own out there. Youre a survivor.
Why are you still here?
Staying behind to gloat?
Edmund...
I am here to help you end this nightmare.
You did this to me wanting the same power she squandered!
Well i survived worse!
I promise you i will find a way out of this, i will!
No you wont
It's much too late for that.
Its so bright
Helena...
I am afraid!
Shhh.
She knew.
Loud explosion
Survivor, this is the last mesage to you, to be relayed in the event of my... deactivation.
I was a artifitian constuct when we first met, a shadow of someone who lived a long time ago.
But in our time toghetor i could become someone new, someone new. not helena -- HLN-A.
Thank you for that. i wish i could find the words to tell you how much you ment for me... Human lenguage is so inpricise.
But i need you to do something else now:
find your own path, your own destiny. buid a new world here...a better world.
And who knows?
maybe two lost souls can still meet again somewhere, out along the stars
goodbye, my friend.

the ending lines of ark genesis part 2

[gusty turret]

Wait this means we were the imposter because we got ejected in the ending of gen 2

[mental basin]

[arctic bison]

[pure cipher]

[gusty turret]

Or maybe, we were the only crewmate and us getting ejected caused the ship to explode because the imposters won

[river rivet]

i regret opening this channel

[bold dove]

I'm starting to also

[tired osprey]

Case #14173 @bronze turtle has been muted for 2 hours.
Reason: Mass Tagging

[covert sandal]

…

[pure cipher]

✅Case #14176 @ davaydg has been muted for 2 hours
Reason: Making References to a Forbidden Game

[bold dove]

Finally.

[fallow sapphire]

glorious

[pure cipher]

shhhhhh

[mental basin]

[bold dove]

SHH

[mental basin]

[lyric tendon]

[pure cipher]

[gusty turret]

Dash was faking tasks, you know what that means

[mental basin]

@bronze turtle

Please
We beg of you
End this darkness

Please consider this off-topic

I can't mentally handle the strain of Among Us anymore

p lease

[bronze turtle]

wot u rambling about, you gotta speak english to me not lore-esque

[mental basin]

Bluestone

This man has been making Amogus references for days

STOP HIM
please

It hurts Bluestone

And it's off topic

[rigid palm]

Since when has lore-nerdz ever been on topic?

[mental basin]

Go away

[rigid palm]

Never

[bold dove]

It's never been on topic.

[lyric tendon]

What is considered "on topic" here?

[rigid palm]

Lore i guess

I mean, this channel says lore-nerdz, so technically it only specifies who can speak, not what we speak about

[lyric tendon]

It's a rethorical question

[rigid palm]

With a rhetorical answer

[gusty turret]

I was tieing amongus into the lore buddy its so on topic

[plain plover]

mongus
Genesus

Rockwell vented from Arat Prime into the ship and then he killed the crew mates bu t the survivor completed all the tasks before he could get them

The Federation Drip was imperative to the DLC

so this is what a brain aneurysm feels like

[gusty turret]

So true actually except we got voted out before Hlna could do the last task so the ship exploded

[mental basin]

[vocal ledge]

hold on, is it actually possible to make a custom among us map in Ark??

everyone could have different colored tek suits and walking around a space station doing mission-based tasks and the imposter could have an instant kill weapon on him that silently murders other players without them doing the death scream

[plain plover]

I think what’s more possible is an Ark themed Among us map

[tender wasp]

[plain plover]

The Video Game Among Us and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

Never again in my life will I be able to hear the phrase “Among Us” without it being screamed over in my head several more times

Even if I can free myself from the schizophrenic visions I have whenever I see a trash can, I will never hear or see the phrase like I once did again

[urban stone]

Among us was a period of human agony

Now every time a word has “sus” or similar, all people scream is among us

[lyric tendon]

It's possible in vanilla but the death messeages and even tribes needs to turn off

[teal kelp]

Genesus
Extinctus
Aberratius
Scorched earthus
The islandus
The centus
Ragnarus
Valguerus
Crystal islus

Lost islandus

[arctic bison]

[lyric tendon]

We are so gonna make an Unofficial Server called "ARKmung Us"

[teal kelp]

Arkmogus

[lyric tendon]

today i learned why using bows are always shaking while aiming, gripping the bow makes the aim shakey

most pro archers don't grip their bows and rather sling them and let the bow rest on their hand while aiming

[paper python]

Maybe it’s because you’re pulling the string really tight

And you’re too weak to hold it in its position that way

[lyric tendon]

if you watch the olympics they don't grip their bow when firing the arrow, they just let the bow drop down once they release the arrow

it's actually makes sense why aiming in ARK is shakey and gets better when we reach a high tier bow

[tired osprey]

Case #14240 @bronze turtle has been muted for 2 hours.
Reason: Mass Tagging

[digital flower]

rekted

[random pumice]

noob

[gusty turret]

Bows are for betas

Alphas use boomerangs

[arctic bison]

chads use slingshots

[teal kelp]

Sigmas use punches

[lyric tendon]

Omegas use spyglass

True gods uses cryopods and GPS

[teal kelp]

You got it wrong

Real gods stare at a giga and it knocks out

[vestal saffron]

Nuh uh, they can one shot the King Titan with one jump..

[lyric tendon]

No no, true gods wipe the server just by starting up

[naive socket]

How do herbivores collect berries in lore?

[gusty turret]

How do you think........

They open their mouth and bite them off the bush

[pure cipher]

They eat them. It took me years to find this information.

[bronze turtle]

interesting, that logic defying

[dawn bay]

Can we get an audiobook series with David Tennant reading Rockwells notes, and the rest of the cast reading their respective notes 🤔

[lyric tendon]

I'm sleep deprived as hell because i misread that as David Attenborough

Still interested to hear regardless tho

[ember solar]

Server owners can wipe servers very easily they are very powerful

[plain plover]

Neddy the noodle has a series like that with voice actors doing impressions of the characters, good voice actors

[gusty turret]

What about an audiobook of David Tennant saying Amongus keywords

[mental basin]

Shut the fock off up

My brain is crumbling

[gusty turret]

I need to hear Rockwell saying "survivor is sus"

[tender wasp]

I should ask Rockwell to strangle you with his tentackles so this talk finaly ends.

[fallow sapphire]

Sounds fine by me

[digital flower]

[uncut owl]

.

[flint stratus]

@toxic current that’s funny

[latent fractal]

Thats just a little bit of spam lol

[north karma]

Lol

[digital flower]

Spammers gone?

[hard glen]

Mostly

[digital flower]

As an ex xbox one player I'm somewhat dissapointed in them

[bronze turtle]

Feel free to continue your chats and ignore the spammers, moderators will be working their way through all the channels repeatedly.

[hard glen]

Yea being on main official pvp servers most of the ppl on here are super toxic and childish

[empty swan]

Spamming because people are literally dossing servers off the list and the devs are doing nothing LOL ‘childish’ the devs r just braindead

[digital flower]

You expect the devs to be able to work around the clock 24/7 fixing most of these issues? Their a small company not some big triple a name

[bronze turtle]

You can talk about the lore again now 🙂

[frozen meteor]

The lore is all offlisting now

[bold dove]

[hard glen]

Spamming is childish due to the fact it doesn't achieve anything and if you have a solution to the problem other than just saying hey fix it take it up with the devs it is most likely much harder to fix than you think

[bronze turtle]

thats not lore talk...

[digital flower]

I'll probably hold off today because it just seems like spammers are invading and it seems like a massive headache so I'm going to shut up now so I don't cause more issues because arguing won't get you anywhere with some people but thanks for the heads up :)

[hard glen]

Sorry lol just irritating to see ppl like this

[lyric tendon]

🍿

[digital flower]

Lore-nerdz still on slow mode?

[bronze turtle]

I would jsut suggest choosing words more carefully then, avoid insults etc as they arent necessary

[lyric tendon]

Pretty much

[digital flower]

Guess it's time to just grab the popcorn and enjoying the show

[haughty cosmos]

That’s me every single time I decide to look at what’s going on in this server lol

[lyric tendon]

🐙 ~ i'm a god

[glacial iron]

In the lore, what dinosaur is the strongest?

[elfin plank]

Giga

[digital flower]

Things back to normal here?

[elfin plank]

Yea

[glacial iron]

the island dinos i mean, not including bosses
gigas count though

[digital flower]

Hell yeah, general is still going on and its been like that for 9 hours jesus

[elfin plank]

Giga

[digital flower]

Yeah gigas are probably the strongest creature in the lore

Mei-yin approved

[glacial iron]

Titanosaurus eats constantly, which certainly helps recover health quickly, even after fighting off numerous carnivores such as Giganotosaurus.
the dossier on the wiki says this, unless titanosaurs are non canon

or they just deal massive damage to each other and run away

probably because lore dinosaurs arent hyper persistant

[digital flower]

Idk mei-yin does explain that the giga even after she tamed it was still a feral beast, and I mean it was even able to be brought into the arenas to beat bosses

[glacial iron]

or, titanosaurs weren't orginally on the island

[digital flower]

Theres also the debate if dossiers are even canon or not

Since there was dossiers still being produced even after Helena had ascended into a homo deus

Id say the island up until abb maybe was canon

[glacial iron]

This is probably because they aggressively feed off any and all plants they can find.
what do tall dinosaurs eat? leaves? im gonna bet some of them live in places with shorter leaves than their neck

I've seen a pack of raptors tear apart small dinosaurs while Brontosaurus continues eating, seemingly oblivious to the hunting pack.
they eat food

[elfin plank]

Giga the demon king

[glacial iron]

wonder if a gigas head can even reach dead dinosaurs

[elfin plank]

I mean they can

[digital flower]

I'd imagine it hunted larger prey like brontos and titanosaurs

In ark obviously the real life giga is completely different

[elfin plank]

Where does gen 1 and gen 2 take place in the storyline?

[digital flower]

After extinction

[elfin plank]

But why did they put them after the island?

[digital flower]

What do you mean

[elfin plank]

Go make a non dedicated season and pick the map

[digital flower]

I don't think the map order has anything to do with the storyline

[elfin plank]

Cool

[glacial iron]

maybe alphabetical order?

[glacial iron]

imagine if lore gigas ignored humans for larger prey, and could only kill (humans)by stomping

[digital flower]

If their behaviors were any different i imagine dinosaurs like parasaurs would've done that whilst running away

[glacial iron]

???

ohh parasaurs kill by stomping

[digital flower]

Stepped on humans since parasaurs were big enough to do that

[glacial iron]

yeah, lots of dinos in ark could do serious stomping damage

like gallimimus

raptors (and others)wouldnt be the only ones that can pin humans down

[misty rivet]

Can a Lore Nerd explain the Valg Swamp "Cave/ruins" in the swamp water.... Has a rex statue and a button to an empty shine... I don't get it..mm what's the point.

[lyric tendon]

Because Val is not a story ark

[misty rivet]

Neither is Rag, but the Lore makes since

[lyric tendon]

Story ARKs is called a "Story" ARK for a reason

Free maps aka former mod maps or any mod map in general are not canon aside from being "other ARKs exists"

[teal kelp]

You smell like you vented (vented)
Sabotaged (sabotage)
Dead body reported all sus you imposter

[gusty turret]

Rag doesn't have any lore either what are you saying makes sense 🤨

Helena became a Homosusses and implemented venting to the Arks do we could get around

The One Who's Sus notes talks about the invention of med bay to revive us when we die

[bronze turtle]

Rag, crystal isles and vul are non lore maps I believe.

And center.

[digital flower]

Correct

[tender wasp]

[outer oriole]

the ark lore is more complex than a primary school relationship

[lyric tendon]

not really,

it's more of a tale about a modern-day austrailan girl turned god,
a jealous colonial-era british chemist turned drug addict hentai god,
a dynasty era chinese girl become a solo alpha, and
earth turns to shit after WW3 with Tek

[outer oriole]

I was making a a comedy

[lyric tendon]

i made comedy gold

[outer oriole]

the fact that hlna straight up commits suicide and homocide

did we ever find out how she was made into an ai

[lyric tendon]

when you start Gen 1

[lyric tendon]

i mean Rockwell does it worse in SE

[outer oriole]

I forgot how gen 1 starts it's so long ago

[gusty turret]

Id hardly call HLNA AI since she literally was part of Helena

[lyric tendon]

she is AI made by a human god

it's like a programmer made Siri after herself

[gusty turret]

Isn't it more likely actually it's merged like an overseer?

[lyric tendon]

Helena can't say on the ship forever because of some "weird homo deus rules"

[low nova]

Anyone care to explain how reapers and drakes got from aberration to earth?

[rigid palm]

Extinction is earth

[fallow sapphire]

Extinction… is earth. I assume you mean Aberration to Extinction?

[low nova]

Yes that, mb

[rigid palm]

Weren’t reapers a punishment from the obelisk? And idk where drakes came from

Most of the stuff I know is from watching this channel lol

[fallow sapphire]

Honestly… idk. There isnt a confirmed answer as to why, just theories and guesses, unless I don’t remember something that Marc said

But i mean they had to have been made before ab, as they were also on the genesis ship

[low nova]

i mean didnt rockwell upload himself to the ship? Whose to say he didnt upload some reapers too

[fallow sapphire]

Dont see why he would, cause there are plenty of other aberration creatures on gen 2 that he DEFINITELY would not care for

[bold dove]

He could've. Since reapers where the most dangerous predators on Aberration.
He probably wanted to tamper with them and experiment. Which he did via resulting in the X-Reapers.

[low nova]

so that they’d help kill the crew?

[bold dove]

He himself killed the crew.
In a more....disturbing way.

[fallow sapphire]

I guess, it is possible

[low nova]

Wasnt that the entire purpose of shadowmanes

[low nova]

What did he do

[bold dove]

Influenced people to do shit with his charisma.
Made someone cause a literally terrorist attack onto the ship, which killed Santiago.

[fallow sapphire]

Wait what? That happened long before Rockwell

[bold dove]

Hang on, did it?

Let me check.

[fallow sapphire]

The arks werent even made at that time

[bold dove]

Where does it state that?

[fallow sapphire]

The fact they were just a plan from what i remember by the transhumans… cant fact check rn though, wiki notes dont work on my phone

Even if the arks were made, they were being made around the same time as the genesis ship, and it took a few years for Rockwell to turn into what he is… was

[bold dove]

Oh wait. Might've been thinking of Aberration with the Grad-Students.

[fallow sapphire]

I think so

[bold dove]

Since he does convince a kid to go off and never be seen again.

[fallow sapphire]

Yeah it wouldnt surprise me if he did that again on the gen ship, but I am almost positive he didnt cause the explosion

[bold dove]

"Heyo, you guys wanna have a dip in my flesh?"
"Sure grandfatherwell."

[gusty turret]

He took their insides and made them outsides and impaled them n shit

Its mentioned in Gabriel's notes im pretty sure

[fallow sapphire]

And shown in the note

[rigid palm]

They actually showed a drawing of that?

[fallow sapphire]

Wasnt exactly a drawing, but yeah they show a person impaled like crazy as a warning

[gusty turret]

They really should've worked cameras as a bigger part of the lore for pictures

Like oh wow a picture of Rockwell's mansion

[tender wasp]

Rockwell had nothing to do with it. It happend when the ship still was under construction, cause Santiagos notes are all from that time. The guy that exploded himself with Santiago did not want his family to be cloned and did not like the idea of cloning and so killed himself with Santiago. I think his plan was even to cause more serious damage.

[gusty turret]

Yeah that guy was just depressed

[tender wasp]

I think more and more traumatised by the whole situation and beeing a clone himself.

[fallow sapphire]

Which is understandable, I wouldn’t want to be cloned either… makes me wonder though, if religions like Christianity were realistic with heaven, how would that work with clones? When the clone died would he be a different person from the original, or just disappear?

[rigid palm]

On the topic of explorer notes, how do I see them on the wiki? I’m on the page and keep hitting the link and it brings me to the same page

[fallow sapphire]

If you go to the explorer note page and go close to the bottom it lists the survivors, from there you can open there notes… but I’m not sure how it works with mobile, it doesnt like my phone but i think it works for others

[rigid palm]

Ohh ok I see it now, thx

Just wish I could download a photo of each explorer note tho

[fallow sapphire]

Ikr, would be amazing

[rigid palm]

I mean itd take up a load of storage but itd be worth it

[fallow sapphire]

Most definitely

[rigid palm]

Next best thing is to run the giveallexplorer notes command on a fake character and screenshot all of them

[shadow girder]

Who is more intelligent, Santiago or Rockwell?

Because both are uhhh... Well both were massive nerds who went a little overboard

[tender wasp]

Rockwell is more the kind of bio-scientist and Santiago is more the Tech/hacker (at least Ext/Abs Santiago). Both are really good in their special field of occupation and Abs/Ext Santiago has an eidetic memory which helps.

[gusty turret]

Meat monster Rockwell is more intelligent probably since he is in the systems of the ship and can dee like everything happening

[rigid palm]

Seeing doesn’t mean intelligence tho

[tender wasp]

Santiago is also pretty good with finding Solutions and Rockwell is more cunning.

[rigid palm]

I think once rockwell became meaty tentacle man he kinda lost his intelligence lol

[tender wasp]

And to make the comparisson fair you should use the uncorrupted Rockwell.

[lyric tendon]

that's taking advantage of element's ability to hack stuff

him alone can't do technology, he have to ask his assitan-... ooh he died to compies

[fallow sapphire]

Compared to their times they were both very smart, but Santiago i would say is smarter just because he was from a later time

[slender hedge]

omg guys i have a theory.

i think the boss in abberation was rockwell

[gusty turret]

Nah man you're pulling that out of your ass

[mental basin]

[slender hedge]

ik i sound crazy but hear me out

[mental basin]

Untrue.

[slender hedge]

THEY LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME. Also the explorer notes say that rockwell once tried consuming the element

which is why he look so weird in abb

[rigid palm]

Is this an actual theory or a troll?

[slender hedge]

troll

[gusty turret]

Can't you tell?

[slender hedge]

ok cya

[rigid palm]

Idk sounded like the dude actually thought that he was the first one to figure that out

[slender hedge]

someone give me some lore that i will question ark after hearing it

[mental basin]

A graduate student committed suicide on Aberration.

Raia and John canonically fucked.

We can consume parts of Rockwell.

Rockwell poisoned an entire Tribe.

Rockwell no longer has a penis.

Helena spent hours drooling over dinosaur shit.

I am currently 100 meters from your location and approaching rapidly.

[slender hedge]

welp it was nice playing ark. I quit

[mental basin]

can we ban this guy

I am going to rip out your esophagus

That is a promise

Not a threat

[fallow sapphire]

I wish sometimes

[bronze turtle]

the lore channel is weird, try not be weird lol

[lyric tendon]

this channel is already weird

[gusty turret]

At least one of those tentacles.....

[winged shoal]

[tired osprey]

Case #14707 @desert saddle has been muted for 2 hours.
Reason: Mass Tagging

[bronze turtle]

@small lichen#735196277221883964

[red mist]

Raia and John canonically fucked.
wait, what?
We can consume parts of Rockwell.
wait, what?
Rockwell no longer has a... (i'm afraid of mr. boat)
wait, what?

someone explain to me why the last two

[mental basin]

• We can harvest and consume meat from Rockwell's Proliferation.
• Rockwell legitimately has no penis.

[lyric tendon]

his "poop slinging" tentacles in the meat biome, maybe??

[mental basin]

Nope, there's literally meat nodes.

[lyric tendon]

technically Mutagen is part of Rockwell, so Tek Wyverns eat his bits?

[shadow girder]

I'm curious what the Animated Ark series will cover.

It's obviously gonna cover the island, but I'm curious if it'll also delve into Aberration.

[mental basin]

I.. don't think Mutagen is a part of him. I think it just found it's way in there.

[lyric tendon]

it will cover island to extinction

aka the "ARKs Arc"

[mental basin]

Excuse you

But that hasn't been confirmed buddy

Probable, but not confirmed

Don't go spreading misinformation like that

[mental basin]

Ahem.
We don't know yet.

[red mist]

oh yea, i guess there are meat nodes in rockwell's innards. never thought about that

[red mist]

well he had at one point, why doesn't he now

[mental basin]

M e t a m o r p h o s i s

[gusty turret]

Theres no reason to believe he doesn't have one

We literally climb through his dumpys to get to his heart

[glacial iron]

does anyone wonder, how dinosaur saddles worked in the lore?

[gusty turret]

Not really?

[glacial iron]

oh
so that means that in the lore people constantly got betrayed by their dinosaurs

[tender wasp]

Mei jins rock drake seemed to have Tek saddle later and regarding to her dinos on the Island non of her dinos betrayed her (and she did ride her raptor). But what has a saddle to do with that anyways ?

[bold dove]

The creatures on the ARK's are biologically made to be loyal to humans once tamed.
With of course giga's being excluded.

[lyric tendon]

The saddles for big creatures are just comical AF

You can literally hide inside them

[stiff grail]

Which explorer note says that ?

[lyric tendon]

Helena's

[stiff grail]

Which one? She has a lot

[lyric tendon]

Island, unsure what number

[stiff grail]

Well that narrows it down at least, time to go reading

[stiff grail]

Yea in a few of her notes she makes the observation that once tame they are chill.

[stiff grail]

Well based off the info myself, Gavin and chaos obtained we believe it in the US

[tender wasp]

To be fair extinction could be everywere.

[stiff grail]

This is true, it is never confirmed where it is all we can do is take a decent guess on where it is based off the info we have

[tender wasp]

Yeah but we don't have any real hints.. not even formations or landmasses.

[stiff grail]

Well when I made the video with Gavin and Chaos apparently something in Extinction let them to believe it was in the US

I am unaware what it was exactly but was told to put it in my video since their was enough info to indicate it being correct

[tender wasp]

To be fair if I search long enough I also could find "hints" to make people believe it is in Germany.

[ornate hull]

Holy hell how'd you scroll back that far

[stiff grail]

I was doing some moderation and someone told me of a doggy comment and I found yours while searching for the said comment

Thought I reply to ya

[ornate hull]

Ah

[stiff grail]

True true

End of the day unless wildcard clears up certain information their will always be a guessed answer or most logical one which I don't like but what can you do hey

[tender wasp]

I even think they did make it no fix location so everybody can set it in a location they like.

They keep a lot of stuff open, so people can imagine their own things and also to keep people that write/imagine their own stories more freedom.

[stiff grail]

I can see that side to it and that is something the Island to Extinction writer mentioned he left some info to players interpretation which is awesome but most players at least the ones I came into a contact a lot do not like that. They want the facts and no interpretation

Hopefully the animated series fills in a few gaps

[tender wasp]

I know the other side which are the writers and RPGlers. They like if things are left open in lore and not everything is explained or fix

[tender wasp]

Animated series is not canon

[stiff grail]

Ah your right I forgot that

[tender wasp]

So some stuff will allways be a mystery, which is nice.. cause it is not allways good if you have an explanation for everything. Take only starwars.. trying to make the force explainable with scinentific mattes killed a lot.

[bronze turtle]

its kinda canon

[tender wasp]

They want to stay close but also will change some stuff and there is a quote by dolly wich states it is not literally canon.

[stiff grail]

Oh I agree certain aspects are important to leave as a mystery but their are certain topics I believe should have enough hints to lead what might be the logical right answer if that makes sense

Cause like for example I am working on an updated Lore video for Ark detailing everything we know and through that their are topics which we have no answer to and I know in my previous video that annoyed a lot of viewers.

[tender wasp]

Some stuff also is tactic to keep it open, like what happend with earth.. leaves them room to decide to go back, etc..

[stiff grail]

So when it comes to those details it being painful

[stiff grail]

Agreed, we only know a slice of the Ark story on earth

[lyric tendon]

Like Mei is for the Yellow Turban instead of against it in the OG lore

[bronze turtle]

canons whatever they want it to be its their IP

[stiff grail]

Nah it mine haha

What I say is lore haha

[tender wasp]

That is what Dollie said.. and it sounded for me that the game will be main canon and the animated series only kinda but not in all aspects.

[bronze turtle]

yea, kinda canon

[lyric tendon]

"AU canon"

[stiff grail]

Regardless of cannon or not it will provide another way to see and experience the story of Ark. If only some elements are somewhat cannon then we can still see that side to it

Could be the animated series is set in an alternate timeline

[tender wasp]

Or an "If this had happend.." scenario

[lyric tendon]

I feel bad for bobs that came from #ark-animated-series that will see what they saw in the show is different in the game

[stiff grail]

yea like marvel what if

It would lead to some confusion but if it is close to the og lore to a degree then it wont be so bad

[lyric tendon]

Gunty Santiago
Turban Mei

[stiff grail]

Cause there only so much a notepad can tell us

[tender wasp]

MG Rockwell

[lyric tendon]

That confuses me as "Master Grade" Rockwell and i seriously would buy a model of that

[tender wasp]

Nah, Rockwell with a minigun XD

[lyric tendon]

Gunwell

[stiff grail]

Dear lord it gavin 2.0

What if Helena gets corrupted

or Mei no save her on the island. Entire story ends

[lyric tendon]

Or Isabelle didn't suggested Rockwell to go on a walk

[tender wasp]

Mei dies and Nerva survives isntead

[stiff grail]

So many what ifs haha

What if helena starred at poop all day

[lyric tendon]

And he be like "WTF is this, this is hell, Admin TP plz"

[stiff grail]

Well Aberration was actually a nice place till they blew it

[tender wasp]

Yeah but he would come there when it is allready hell XD

[stiff grail]

He would try conquer it in 5 seconds

only for a basilisk to eat him

cause he spawned at portal

[lyric tendon]

He wont without his megatribe

[stiff grail]

Key word try

[tender wasp]

He would get eaten by the rock drake instead of taming it lol

[lyric tendon]

Probably

[stiff grail]

Nah goes into Rad area without a suit cause he thinks he a tank

[lyric tendon]

Blue zone bobbing lmao

[stiff grail]

or a crab yeets him

no no i got it

walks into the doom shrooms

[lyric tendon]

F

[stiff grail]

RIP Nerva

[lyric tendon]

A fate worse than death

[tender wasp]

Or he would go on a trip in the shrooms and even more believe he is the chosen one XD

[lyric tendon]

If he do spawn in the surface, he might get ambushed by an Alpha Reaper

What if Nerva has Mei's admin powers and tried to tame a nameless

[ornate hull]

Roast nerva casserole
A delicacy to aberration

[lyric tendon]

Aberrant Cesar Salad

[digital flower]

Yes I'll take the rockwell tentacle calamari with a side of aberrant cesar salad

[stiff grail]

If wildcard opens a restaurant, that be on the menu

[digital flower]

Yeah as well as Helena parasaur beef burger

[stiff grail]

Don't forget the dodo ffries

with some dilo sauce

[lyric tendon]

Spicy Wyvern Wings

[digital flower]

Or the glow pet lolipops

[lyric tendon]

Basilisk Hotdog with Titanoboa Spaghetti

[arctic bison]

Cooked itchyornis wings

[deep pebble]

hamburger

[bold flume]

Does anyone know the lore of how we got from the ending of Extinction to the beginning of Genesis?

[digital flower]

We don't really know how we ended up on the genesis ship

That's entirely up to your own interpretation

[lyric tendon]

Who knows what we are experiencing in the ARKs and in addition on Earth/Ext is a part of the Gen Sim "Survive the ARK" as part of probably HLN-A's tampering

[rigid palm]

Theres two options from what we know:

1. After defeating KT helena took us to arat prime and beamed us up there
2. After defeating KT helena activated our clone in the genesis simulation

Personally I would like believe the first one, but there isn’t any evidence that points to either more than the other

[fallow sapphire]

Yeah either option is up to the player, in my story i used both, but that is obviously my story

[bold flume]

I like that first one too. I’m not too familiar with arat prime, I’ve heard about it but don’t know too much other than what’s in a few explorer notes. Could also explain how Rockwell is there, he could have made his way there and came after us

[lyric tendon]

He didnt "came after us" he got in the ship first

[rigid palm]

Arat prime is the launching platform for the colony ship, and i don’t remember if its confirmed or not but yeah thats what the general community accepts as to how rockwell got on the ship

[bold flume]

From what I understand about Genesis it’s only known he was there outside of the simulation before us. We could have been sleeping long before Rockwell arrived and started taking over the ship

[lyric tendon]

Yes but we didn't realized rockwell is in the ship until HLN-A existing in the ship and used us to fight against rockwell

[bold flume]

We did get that hint at the end of extinction that basically said Rockwell is back. I think it was understood at the time of Gen 1 through the glitches and master controller that Rockwell was corrupting the simulation, We didn’t really know he would be the main boss of both genesis dlcs

[lyric tendon]

It would be epic if we faced him on earth but the ship is fine i guess

[teal kelp]

The spaceship was a cooler place imo

[rigid palm]

Yeah but then ark 2 couldnt be on another planet

[teal kelp]

Earth would have been great tho

[gusty turret]

I don't think we should've fought him on Earth because as far as we knew we killed him on Aberration i doubt we actually heard the roar in lore

[rigid palm]

I mean, it could’ve but it would make no sense, if we defeated rockwell on earth and earth is purged of element why would we go to another planet?

[lyric tendon]

It's possible who knows Rockwell do succeed what the OG element cant thus have no choice but to start the ship and leave then boom! Gen and ARK 2 makes sense

[gusty turret]

Why couldn't Ark 2 be on another planet?

[rigid palm]

I think we’re going off of if rockwell didn’t beam himself up and instead tried to challenge us on earth

[gusty turret]

The lifeboat would be scanning for habitable worlds whether we saved the Earth and killed Rockwell or not the Ark's storyline has no weight on the Genesis storyline

Well besides Rockwell obviously

[rigid palm]

The ark’s storyline brings rockwell into the genesis storyline, if rockwell wasnt there thatd be a big difference

[gusty turret]

Ark 2 would still take place on another planet tho

[rigid palm]

I guess, but the life boat has been active as long as the arks and I doubt element would take over after that long of it being stable

[lyric tendon]

Thats after they retconning of the part where "the gen ship is unable to launch"

[gusty turret]

What are you even saying here

[lyric tendon]

Scroll up more

[gusty turret]

Im still confused

Wait is slowmode less now

[lyric tendon]

@gusty turret

[gusty turret]

What about the ship only starting if we failed to fight Rockwell on Earth tho

[lyric tendon]

That is what i meant

[mental basin]

Did you just say that Extinction was a simulation

My guy

[gusty turret]

Yeah ngl i have legit no clue what mans was on about

[mental basin]

Not really. Whether or not you are a new Survivor or the old one is up to you though.

I really don't like how they set that up, something just feels missing.

[fallow sapphire]

I agree, i get why they did but still

[lyric tendon]

It has many plot holes and a typical anime

[bold dove]

Though, so does Marc's story.

[lyric tendon]

I'm talking about the whole thing

[bold dove]

Well, yeah. Marc's story as a whole had a few plot holes also.

[lyric tendon]

It really makes me wonder if Helena do stop and look at the Tek Cave console and actually have a time to choose any ARK, things would've been different

[gusty turret]

She did mess with the console to go to scorched

If i remember right she talks about picking the desert

[lyric tendon]

She didn't decide to choose an ARK she just jump streight in

[gusty turret]

If she didn't chose then she also would've went to Aberration

" I had to pick the desert. Why the hell did I pick the desert?

Well, I suppose "pick" is a rather strong word for it. I’m still not entirely certain just how I got that console working, but it suddenly started cycling through holographic images of different destinations far from the island that I’d been living on. Of course, I just had to go and press another button while it was showing off one that contained miles and miles of bloody desert, and here I am."

Literally the first scorched note from Helena

[mental basin]

She did. Pick a spot.

Just haphazard and accidentally.

[latent fractal]

I fear that even with the unwitting aid of Miss Walker, I still cannot completely control the machines in the starlit sanctuary. I believe they sent us to the correct ARK, but I was unable to control precisely where we arrived on it. Alas, that means the location I saw in the sanctuary is beyond my reach for the time being, along with the molten Edmunium I saw there. Confound it all! Rockwell note 1 on abb

Which confirms they do pick a spot, on the island they just didn't fully know how it worked

Reading this note again rockwell talks about controlling where they arrive on the ark. So kind of how we can pick a spawn location possibly?

[mental basin]

That's..

That's actually a good theory.

[bold dove]

This could possibly explain Scorched being a optional ARK.

[mental basin]

Every Map is optional.

Scorched is just as big of a part of the Lore as any other.

[bold dove]

Not really for us.

And last time i checked. You can't canonically start out on Earth.

[mental basin]

I mean, with that logic you can.

[bold dove]

With 'what' logic?
The logic you put down?

[mental basin]

No the logic you did.

Technically we could cut everything out but Extinction.

Rockwell doesn't mention his Overseer past once in Gen. Unless you count "I've survived worse".

[bold dove]

"And last time i checked. You can't canonically start out on Earth."
Pretty sure that's going the opposite of the point.

[mental basin]

Ahem

[bold dove]

Yeah?
I'm saying "Scorched" being optional.
Atleast in the note survivors time, this is obvious since Mei-Yin and Nerva skipped Scorched, and went straight to Aberration.

[mental basin]

Well again

We could cut out everything besides Extinction

And Gen

Hell we could even cut out Gen

As I said, Rockwell only mentions pre Gen events (besides other Survivors) once.

[bold dove]

You're taking one thing i said. And making a bigger thing out of it.

[mental basin]

Mhm because it fits

Mwahahaha

[lyric tendon]

Technically you can since they are born on earth 🤷‍♀️

If they are "born" in the ARKs like the baby in SE, that is a different story

[gusty turret]

The more you talk about the lore the more im convinced you haven't actually looked at it any

Or you're just trolling

[sand fiber]

I may not have friends but on the upside it gives me more time to watch ark lore

[gusty turret]

Also scorched couldn't be optional because that's where they learn about the Arks zapping people it didn't like and why they went and looked at it and saved themselves on Abb

[fallow sapphire]

to learn the story yes, but the only essential ark is aberration, so you can get to earth

[gusty turret]

Oh i thought we were talking about what was necessary for the story to progress at all

[fallow sapphire]

i dont think so? I'm still unsure what the conversation was about, but i think thats what it was about

[lyric tendon]

Makes me think that SE is a "filler" story which is make sense

It does show Rockwell's desperation to get the artifacts or the element shard that he wanted

[gusty turret]

Scorched was made to pay off a lawsuit but the lore in it is still really important to the overall development

[desert compass]

Lmao ark created Christianity

[gusty turret]

Yeah man all i know is some guy named Noah made the Arks because of some corruption or some shit

[latent fractal]

I decided to look into the "starlit sanctuary" and noticed that the moment you defeat the overseer he turns into a ball shape, could this be the console they are talking about? As that ball shape is also what starts projecting the things before you go into the actual cutscene showing the sun, earth and some arks orbiting it after which you get warped over to SE

One of the arks orbiting the earth there is glowing red unlike the others, which is also what SE does in the cutscene

Only what I could get from a video of the ascencion i'll check in game when I get on see if theres more I overlooked when I ascended myself, was mostly excited about beating the overseer at that time lol.

[mental basin]

Fortnite created Rick and Morty.

And God.

[gusty turret]

I always thought that would be like Aberration from where it was malfunctioning to display it was broken but that makes a lot more sense

[latent fractal]

Yeah so did I, another thing is it only displays a couple of arks orbiting earth, could be that they didn't want to have an insane amount of them so you couldn't see anything but could also be they had a couple of arks to choose from possibly? don't think they say much about the sanctuary's in the notes so its all guessing really for the most part

[mental basin]

nsdushdbsbbshshshshshsbsba ughhhhhhhh
Element Charge Light funni Stryder power go brrrrrrttttt

[gusty turret]

What

[gusty turret]

Okay!

[latent fractal]

@gusty turret you meant him or me?

[gusty turret]

This

[desert compass]

No way is this true

[gusty turret]

Okay so on the extinction banner thingys one of them says something about an overseer protocol in progress, do we have any clue what that means?

[mental basin]

100% wouldn't tell a lie

[desert compass]

Ok I believe you

[gusty turret]

Also i remember the other day we were talking about where extinction is, i think it's highly plausible its somewhere in Asia

More likely than not, actually

[mental basin]

People have said the United States, Australia, Asia, etc.

We just don't know.

[gusty turret]

Im gonna say Asia because the banners on the city read up and down im pretty sure as they would in like China or something

[mental basin]

Hey.. wait a minute..

@gusty turret, have you talked about this on the ARK Forums?

[gusty turret]

I saw it on a steam post

So i would assume its been brought up before

Ill send you the link so you can look over it too

[lyric tendon]

considering the ARKs are made by the URE

there is possibility is in Eurasia

[gusty turret]

Also ngl the use of kaijus kinda hints towards somewhere in Asia too because almost all the movies with Kaiju type creatures happen in Asia so that could be a subtle nod to our location

[brazen verge]

Whats the lore behind abberation?

Like where is it cause in the story I don’t see any places where abb could be

[gusty turret]

Well you see Diana's and Santiagos stories were happening before Mei first arrived on her ascension from the island but Helena and Rockwell come probably a few months/years afterwards because they had to ascend from Scorched before they arrived

You'd honestly just have to end up reading all the notes on your own to try and put together a coherent timeline because its kinda all over the place to try and explain who's where when

[brazen verge]

Trying to understand ark lore hurts my brain

[lyric tendon]

if i were you, you can just watch Neddy's youtube for the ez lore comprehension

[lyric tendon]

tbh they just choose random biomes that are little to no corruption regardless of the location

[gusty turret]

Actual location wasn't the question the question was where does it happen in the timeline

I think?

[brazen verge]

Yeah that’s what I meant

[lyric tendon]

Diana and the ARK Santiago ||made tek nuke to blow up the overseer that turned a paradise into element heII ||then later Mei and Dead Nerva arrived on Abb then later with Helena and Rockwell

[gusty turret]

Do you think there's some really chill overseer out there on one of the arks that just decided they weren't gonna make anything dangerous

[vague cedar]

what happend to earth in ark

[lyric tendon]

that would defeat their own purpose for being the one who will select the best

[lyric tendon]

if you have Extinction, you probably know why

[vague cedar]

the earth is corrupted

are all people woken up in the island?

[lyric tendon]

not all.. there are people in different ARKs as well, Diana and Santiago for Aberration, John and Raia for Scorched Earth are the best examples

[vague cedar]

why did the obelisk destroy nosti in scorched earth

[lyric tendon]

over population

[vague cedar]

oh

[mental basin]

No

The people as a whole were getting too powerful.

Sort of..

They had advanced too much.

So the Obelisks stopped them.

[lyric tendon]

SE Overseer be like: oh ooh they reached fabi tier, better call nerf

[mental basin]

Ho-ho, are those Windmills I spy?

Fahck you!!

[tender wasp]

It was more cause they settled in a big town not really beeing interessted in "survival" as planned. They actually were fine living on Scorched wich was more a reason than beeing to advanced.

[lyric tendon]

tbh this a mix of human thriving aka overpopulation and advancing technology

[vague cedar]

why were the obelisk on extinction dont have the terminal or something like that

[lyric tendon]

it's a Proto-ARK i believe

[tender wasp]

Isn't the terminal in the notes not only after defeating the overseer ? Cause transfers are not canon.

[lyric tendon]

actually there is in SE with helena but the have to go through ascension first

[mental basin]

That's not what's described in the Notes.

[tender wasp]

yeah but she is in the arena isn't she ? Were Rockwell finds Element.

[mental basin]

They're prototypes.

[lyric tendon]

first entry when she set foot in SE

[tender wasp]

It is only said that they got destoyed but also they seemed not super advanced. But it is also obvious they thrived and had settled with living on scorched.

[vague cedar]

why do li mei yin didnt go to extinction

[lyric tendon]

she did, her Mek is called The Beast Queen

[tender wasp]

She did

[mental basin]

She did.

[vague cedar]

oh

but why no explorer notes

[mental basin]

It was just size. Size and advancement. Not overpopulation, but those two above.

[mental basin]

She has Explorer Notes on Extinction.

[tender wasp]

She has explorer notes on Ext

[tender wasp]

I didn't say overpopulation..

[mental basin]

The other man did.

[vague cedar]

why do rockwell turned himself into a monster

[lyric tendon]

he took drugs element, out of lack of funding and subjects

[mental basin]

He thought he would ascend and become a God. And he still thinks he is a God.

[tender wasp]

You really should go to the pins here and read the notes that you can find with the links.

Will answer a lot of the questions you ask .

[vague cedar]

is rockwell an antagonist?

[mental basin]

Yes.

[lyric tendon]

yes

an antagonist means "poses a challenge to the protagonist" not just a "bad guy"

[vague cedar]

why rockwell from aberration and gen part 2 is diffrent

[mental basin]

He had a metamorphosis.

He grew, evolved and changed a lot.

[vague cedar]

is rockwell from aberration not smart

[tender wasp]

He is but he is bound to the Ark

[gusty turret]

Jamie what do you think of the theory that Extinction is in Asia due to the banners in sanctuary being read up and down like they are in some Asian countries

[mental basin]

He isn't stupid exactly. I think he's smarter in Gen 2 though.

[tender wasp]

The new "Language" is in general writen up and down. Even on the Island in the terminals. Seems to be a thing of the Homo Deus in general and not it beeing Asia

[mental basin]

@vague cedar, any more questions?

[tender wasp]

I think in Gen 2 he is free, he isn't really in Abs, which limits him in some way (he is the new overseer). SO hard to say. He seems more human aigian in Gen 2 IMO.

[gusty turret]

Or it could be the URE is an Asia based faction and since they're the one's that went for godhood that's just how the language prevailed?

[vague cedar]

wait how do rockwell and helena go to aberration theres no ascension in scorched earth

[tender wasp]

Don't think so. Both factions seem very mixed for me.

[lyric tendon]

it's more or less Element taking over his body hence he only roars until he managed to at least have some control of Element

[mental basin]

In the Lore there is, but in the gameplay there isn't.
So yes, it actually happens but we never see it.

[tender wasp]

Also I think Ext is in a generic location so the player can decide. There are no real hints were it might be and if you really dig hard you could find evidence for every location you want it to be.

[gusty turret]

You guys realize we didn't actually kill him in Abb he just sunk into the soup so there isn't much of a reason to believe hes actually in the Ark itself he could've just been badly wounded

[mental basin]

Yeah??

[gusty turret]

Wait what am i even thinking about

[lyric tendon]

you cant really "kill" him since the ARK needs him as a replacement of the Overseer

[tender wasp]

He allways gets "reborn" like every Boss in the arenas.

[bold dove]

Ah, so Extinction could be set in France. 👀

[tender wasp]

If you want so, yes

[mental basin]

Oh yeah, you could kill him. You just need a TEK Nuke.

[lyric tendon]

spicy baguettes

[bold dove]

Ironic.
The city of love.

[mental basin]

Extinction confirmed Hawaii.

[gusty turret]

Canonically wouldn't we only fight him once so rebirthing wouldn't be a factor for him really?

[bold dove]

Jamaicans.

[mental basin]

Jamaican Rockwell

[bold dove]

Could also be set in Soviet Russia.

Russianwell

[tender wasp]

You only defeat him to open the portal to earth.

[lyric tendon]

if the ARK treats him as an overseer then he would follow how the overseer works

[gusty turret]

If he was overseer i feel like he would've fucked shit up a lot more than it already was

[tender wasp]

I think he had boundaries as overseer.

[gusty turret]

The Ark couldn't just adopt an organic lifeform as overseer could it?

[lyric tendon]

like i just said, he has no full control compared to Gen 2

[tender wasp]

Gen 2 he had full free will.. cause Abs crashing on earth freed him from the Ark.

[gusty turret]

I blame Santiago for all of this actually

[lyric tendon]

he's already dead wdym?

[gusty turret]

Why is literally everything bad tied to him

[tender wasp]

You need to blame the whole Tek tribe but to be fair, the only one to blame is Rockwell.

Rockwells obsession with Element allready started on Scorched.

[gusty turret]

Maybe we wouldn't have needed the Arks to begin with without Santiago

[lyric tendon]

i blame Isabel to suggest him to go out and get some fresh air

[tender wasp]

Santaigo is not the one that did start the war, that is simply humanity, like humanity allways is..

[lyric tendon]

not really Santiago when the whole countries fight each other in WW3 with Tek

[gusty turret]

But he designed a crap ton of the weapons

[lyric tendon]

but the governments use them

who knows Santiago might be Switzerland selling weapons for both parties

[tender wasp]

Santiago was only a small part in it and I bet he was not the only one designing weapons.

[gusty turret]

I wish they would've actually confirmed if the element was inherently evil or if it was humanities fault

[tender wasp]

ANd governments are the ones to blame, the power hungry that actually fought over element and transhuman rights, etc.

[tender wasp]

Element is not bad. It was humans that runined earth while using element as bombs, etc.

Same like nuclear power. Nuclear power is not bad, it is humans that use it as bombs who are.

[gusty turret]

Yeah but we don't know if it was always a hive mind or if people caused that

At least according to the one who waits

[tender wasp]

It is not bad even as hivemind. It simply wants to survive.

[gusty turret]

True actually

[tender wasp]

It is more like a virus. A virus is also not bad. It simply does what nature made it for.

[gusty turret]

Maybe it was for the best, a single hive uniting all of humanity stopping the violence?

[lyric tendon]

it's a poetic irony tbh

[tender wasp]

Nope I think it does not think like that. It simply thrived and survived after the war awakend it in some way. Cause if humans had only used it as QoL stuff the polination would never have been a real problem cause earth could have been able to handle it (as I understood Snatiago).

[bold dove]

Element do what element do.

It doesn't even think most likely.
It probably has the intelligence of any other bacteria.

[gusty turret]

I think i actually would've sided with Rockwell if given the choice ngl

He may have murdered a family and mutilated a shinehorn but otherwise pretty cool guy

[tender wasp]

[lyric tendon]

"grow, expand, explode" ~Military Carrot from Courage

[tender wasp]

I would have simply stood back on earth, rebuilding it (which in my canon is fine now)

[gusty turret]

Yeah i think i actually would've preferred a singular huge like 40$ dlc where we confront Rockwell on Earth with the returned survivors and defeat him once and for all

[bold dove]

Personally, my headcanon is that Earth got a second Extinction event when Rockwell came down.
Earth just is bound to die off i guess.

[tender wasp]

Same a DLC on earth or the ship searching on and on only to end up on earth again with a last line of Helena "Welcome back, survivor"

[gusty turret]

How did he even know about the ship? And how did he recover his strength upon crashing to get there before us and murder everyone on board

[tender wasp]

Then rebuilding Earth in Ark 2 with old ruins to explore to find out more about the past.

[tender wasp]

he might have had access to a big database via the Ark

[bold dove]

You know, i don't mind at all the lore being loose enough that the 'player' decides what is what.
But for fuck sake. They could've hinted towards both sides in Extinction.
Could've had HLN-A state that she got a broadcast from Earth. But doesn't know how old it is since their thousands of years away from Earth.
And then Rockwell could've stated something akin to "I'll deal with 'you' like i dealt with those incompetent fools back on that dirt of a planet."

[gusty turret]

I really wish the old story writer guy wouldn't have quit this new stuff left too many holes unanswered

They needed to make a prequel

[tender wasp]

This still would keep open if earth is dead or not, cause fools could also only be revenge on some survivors.

[tender wasp]

He did cause Ext was original set as end of the franchise.

or better said Ark 1

[gusty turret]

Ark 2 isn't even a good name because it literally isn't even about Arks anymore

I stand by my view of they should've ended with Extinction, went back and completely reprogrammed and redone everything to do with Atlas and rereleased it

That game could've screwed over sea of thieves so bad if they actually cared about it at all

[tender wasp]

Yeah, I also think they should have ended with extinction and made an Ark 2 or prequel from there on.

[bold dove]

Correct, that's what i was going for.

[tender wasp]

But I think they did need time and money.

[lyric tendon]

it would make sense to have a Tek War prequel that is were Vin really really fit

[tender wasp]

But would give it more depth and at least hint, that Rockwell did at least something on his way to Arat.

[bold dove]

And doesn't help that ironically, ARK got more popular post Extinction.

[tender wasp]

Yeah but not as Santiago, more as some General or fighting Soldier.

[bold dove]

He either fucked someones day up. Or fucked humanities day up.

[gusty turret]

Ngl gen 1 pvp was pretty fun compared to what it had been

[bold dove]

I still think we should be around 40/60 for ARK 2 till we get more information.

Who knows. We 'might' get lucky and it wont be a 'pure' Vin Diesel fanfic. Just only a quarter of it is.

[lyric tendon]

probably

[tender wasp]

Atm I am 0% Ark 2.

[gusty turret]

Actually Ark 2 we're in the wrong too because we just landed on a random planet and stole the Native's land and now they're gonna be played out as the bad guys and us as the heros

[tender wasp]

I will have to see, when it releases but I know myself to well.

[lyric tendon]

d e l a y s

[tender wasp]

The only way I may take a look into it is when VD really turns out as ANtagonist and the Orcs are not the bad guys.

Cause that could be interessting.

[rigid palm]

You’re just minding your own business when a giant floating ring starts ejecting metal pods containing over a hundred species and in the distance on one of your moons a huge explosion takes place

[gusty turret]

I hope that wildcard makes us really think about the morality of it all instead of just Bald man go brrrr

[tender wasp]

Not really when then some wierd people come and maybe ravage your land, steal your food and bring stuff with them that kills your children, maybe destroy your holy places etc.

Yeah, if it is Vinne good defending family - Orks bad .. it will be pretty boring.

[gusty turret]

I really like games where you have to weigh your decisions and i know Ark 2 isn't gonna be that but its wishful thinking that we aren't just gonna be murdering natives because bald man told us to and might actually get to help them some or something

[tender wasp]

Yeah, I like that in games like Fallout, etc. Also will be interessting how they handle that in Dying Light 2. Doubt that Ark2 will have that.

[gusty turret]

I can't wait for dying light 2 im gonna be in it for at least a year

[tender wasp]

Same.. also a game I am looking forward too. Really liked the first one.

[gusty turret]

Im really waiting for Ark 2 to flop because its just a Conan reskin or something

Wildcards gonna pull a Bethesda and ruin their reputation with one swift release of a game

[tender wasp]

Might happen if they rush it and keep it to blunt.

People will be very critical, especially with mechanics and gameplay.

[bold dove]

Like, to be fair. Even if it isn't bad. People are gonna complain.

[gusty turret]

Im gonna complain because playstation isn't supposed to get it for an extra year or whatever

[tender wasp]

Yeah but also I think with Ark2 they might be extra harsh cause of Ark 1.

[open hill]

I still really enjoy the game. Although the lag and crashes and bugs make it irritating sometimes. Lore's amazing. Cant wait for the show. Hopefully Ark2 wont be worse than Ark1, in terms of lag bugs n crashes at least

[bronze turtle]

the game is good, i hope ark 2 isn't laggy like the first

[digital flower]

Tbh I'm more hyped for the animated series than the game

[lyric tendon]

i'm more hyped for Bob and Rockwell's assistants or any character that WC didn't choose to butcher for "entertainment's sake", the rest is just meh now

[arctic bison]

Bob is the only reason i'm watching it tbh

[bronze turtle]

Ditto

[onyx sky]

hey as long as there are no resources that you still can't trade for 3 months after they come out it'll be fine

[mental basin]

I want to watch it for the Lore, heheh.

[bronze turtle]

LOREEEEE

[mental basin]

Mwahahaha, the only good thing about me. ARK Lore expertise.

[bronze turtle]

lol

[lyric tendon]

the butchered "corporate safe" lore

[bronze turtle]

yup

[pale mural]

Ngl my brain saw the ugly peeps and thought it was just corrupted peeps that somehow made it off the ship lol

[fallow sapphire]

by ugly peeps i assume you mean the orc things? And yeah there should be no way the corrupted survivors made it off the ship, only the things in the eden ring should have made it

[lyric tendon]

evlovled gigantopithicus

[fallow sapphire]

now that would be a sight

[gusty turret]

Rockwell's corrupted peeps were inside out so

[thorn canopy]

PlayStation doesn’t support Early Access

And when the game will come out, it will be in early access like Ark 1

That’s what Dollie said

[mental basin]

Where.

[thorn canopy]

Idk, it was from a few months ago. I can’t find the message.

[mental basin]

Then it's probably untrue.

Because I know for a fact it HASN'T been confirmed.

[thorn canopy]

I am sure about it

[mental basin]

Nope.

It's just a theory that's been in circulation for awhile.

[thorn canopy]

I didn’t know people were talking about it but I am sure that I saw Dollie saying that in the general chat one time.

Someone asked why Ark 2 won’t launch on PlayStation and Dollie replied saying that PS doesn’t support early access.

Also from the last message she sent in general, she said that Ark 2 won’t be 100% primitive.

[iron hound]

She never said that, this is just a theory

[lyric tendon]

||a Speculative Theory, thanks for watching||

[vague cedar]

whats the bed in extinction in the forest cave, is there something related to the lore?

[bold dove]

Yeah. It's a machine that allows people to forcefully evolve into Homo-Dues's.
Mei-Yin used it on Helena after she nearly died. And it made her into a god like being at the cost of destroying the machine, and them not being able to see Helena ever again.

[heavy sandal]

real cool diana could do something like that while she was dead

[bold dove]

Oh yeaaaah. Forgot about that.

Forgot she got fucked over by Rockwell back on Aberration.

[vague cedar]

who's grad jounal boris?

from aberration

[heavy sandal]

the worst of the grad students

[vague cedar]

oh

what period did he come from

the past?

the future?

[heavy sandal]

like right now

[vague cedar]

oh

why did he not go to extinction?

[heavy sandal]

he wasnt part of the tek tribe. the grad students popped up on ab after the stuff with rockwell went down and the main gang left

also he died

[vague cedar]

what happen after we finish genesis part 2

or ascend genesis part 2

[heavy sandal]

have you done the gen2 fight? the cut scene lays it out pretty well I thought

[bold dove]

Cause they all died.

One fucking yeets themselves off a cliff.
One dies from being pregnant from a reaper.
One possibly died from Rockwell. Due to him hearing Rockwell's voice in his head.
And the others i believe are unknown.

[heavy sandal]

Rusty died trying to show the others in the group he was a real man. didnt really say what his plan was other than trying to bag a nasty critter deeper in the caves.

Emilia fed herself to nameless

[bold dove]

The grad-student notes where my favorite. Cause of how dark they where.
Sad the notes on Genesis 2 didn't come anywhere near being as good as the grad-students.

They're under the grad-student notes. And i think you find their note in a backpack.

[heavy sandal]

maybe, but the grad students talk about there being 5 of them total. Rusty, Emilia, Boris, Trent, and Immamu

[bold dove]

So you have to be in a group to be a grad-student?

[heavy sandal]

that's why i say the grad students. like the group. not a one off, but sure.

[bold dove]

Your logic is complicated. For something that can be simple.

[gusty turret]

Yeah the gen 2 notes were actually pretty boring

Gabe's were decent but i didn't like how Nidas just end and Gabes cover the rest when we know damn well Nida escaped and set up the ring separation protocol, we could've at least got one final note

Instead we just got "haha Rockwell sucked me off and i gave Nida some kind of tek dagger, the end'

[heavy sandal]

IxionxGabe cursed lore when?

[gusty turret]

You just have to read his last note in a sexual manner and its cursed enough already

"In the sarcoid cathedral of the antigod, we endured his seismic wrath.

Thunderous peals of his fury buffeted us.

Who were we to defy his cosmic malignity?

He promised we would submit one way or another, as something crawled up my back and attached itself to my head.

I felt my will to resist being drained away, and fell to my knees as the entirety of our environment roared in triumph."

[heavy sandal]

I wrote so much smut in my younger years. I can only read things in cursed manners

[lyric tendon]

i would like to introduced to you to the #CursedLore

[heavy sandal]

I've been off the ark discord since gen2 dropped. I'm probably behind on cursed lore now

[gusty turret]

I would endure Rockwell's seismic wrath given the opportunity

[heavy sandal]

same bro

[lyric tendon]

makes me wonder if Gen is ARK version of 50 shades of gray

[heavy sandal]

no limit to the kinds of sims Nida coded in her spare time 😈

[lyric tendon]

she's a child...

[heavy sandal]

what. she works on the Genesis as a soil scientist. how is she a child?

[gusty turret]

Shes not a child but shes like 15 im pretty sure

[lyric tendon]

she's stated in the notes that she's young

[gusty turret]

Not a child but not an adult either

[heavy sandal]

she's also a woman and what woman doesnt try to downplay their age?

[errant mountain]

Boi shut yo ass up

[gusty turret]

I would love to find the notes that talk about her age but the wiki is extremely scuffed on mobile so its basically impossible

I definitely remember Gabe talking about her being a young girl though, im 99% she isn't 18 yet

I can't find anything definite but im still placing her between 15 and 18 so I'd recommend not making weird jokes till or if it gets confirmed

[heavy sandal]

like teenagers dont make or do nsfw stuff, but whatever. I'm only into daddies anyway

[tender wasp]

She even states herself several times she is a child. Might be she allways gets recloned at a very young age. She even hints, that she has been cloned several times allready and want to hide and die hidden, so no one can retrieve her Matrix.

[heavy sandal]

note 10 "I know the real reason they don't want me fighting is because in their eyes, I'm still just a kid."
and 13 "I used to sneak down there as a kid and wander for kilometers trying to get lost."
and 27 "He wanted to know why a 'kid like me' was risking my neck for him."

[tender wasp]

Kid, now she might be a teenager and I know a bunch of teens that say of themself they are children.

And her body still might be the one of a teen but if they did put in her matrix in a body like that her mind might be far ahead of that.

[lyric tendon]

Gen2 is weird that this canonifies "40+ somethings in a body of a younger body of the opposite gender" or vice versa

yep, we make PVP anime girls canon now

[tender wasp]

It actually makes sense at least to put "old" minds in younger bodies.. simply to have them stay longer to opperate the ship. WOuld not make any sense to put one that maybe became 80 into an 80 year old body again..

[gusty turret]

Girls Und Panzer but its ark with Stryders

[tender wasp]

And like Gabriel is 2 minds in one ? Somehow two melted together..

[gusty turret]

Where do you get that?

[lyric tendon]

hence he's schizophrenic

[gusty turret]

I thought he was just some gold miner guy that had Rockwell in his head

[heavy sandal]

he has dream-memories of a life where he sacrifices little orphans for immortal power

[gusty turret]

What are they gonna do about it tell their parents?

[heavy sandal]

ooh gottem

[lyric tendon]

bruh

[tender wasp]

It is in Santiagos notes that there is a guy which is a fusion of a romane ? priest and a goldminer and he hopes that person never get awakend.. and than .. here is GAbriel.

[gusty turret]

They obviously weren't just dreams if he ended up actually shaping the element shard into a weapon during one of them

I always thought the dreams were just Rockwell grabbing at him since he chose Rockwell when he first woke up ngl

[plain plover]

he was being influenced by Rockwell, who unlike the survivor, gets slightly corrupted by him in the simulation

[gusty turret]

Rockwell sounds so badass in the notes but the fight is so lackluster actually

[tender wasp]

Check Santiagos note. He is actually two persons in one.

[plain plover]

of course in the end, he sacrifices himself to save Nida from Rockwell

[gusty turret]

Nida most likely died anyways

[plain plover]

am I the only one who doesn't think she died?

[gusty turret]

I hope she didn't but i don't see her plausibly escaping

[plain plover]

the last time we heard from her she was... escaping

at the expense of another major character's life

you don't just say they died from other things after that

[gusty turret]

The last thing we know is she programmed the ring separation process

[plain plover]

which was, "complete" by the time she entered innards

it is weird that she didn't try to clean it up, but she must have realized that the entire ship was contaminated except eden, so that was the only choice

[gusty turret]

Where would she have went from there though its an enclosed space we have to beam into

[tender wasp]

I think she died.

[plain plover]

the front door, she is shown to have access to ship compartments the survivors don't

[gusty turret]

I have two theories, the 4 mini meat monsters either represent
A.the 4 master AI's Rockwell ate in the simulation or
B.Four survivors absorbed Gabriel, Nida, and then this is a stretch but Mei and Diana who the last we heard from were going to Arat Prime

[plain plover]

I think it's highly possible she was either living in the vents of eden, or another part of the ring, living off the hexagon credit system for food.

[gusty turret]

She knew where a bunch of storage areas were so she probably just grabbed food from them if she did survive

She mentioned that was her plan so

[plain plover]

yeah, that also

[gusty turret]

Im willing to bet we wont hear anything about Mei or Diana again though they most definitely died in the background, and maybe we'll see it happen in the animated series

[plain plover]

according to the boi Jeremy, we will hear about them again

[tender wasp]

Or they will live on happily until they die and we will here about them again in the series.

I hope they don't do a Santiago in Ark 2 with them.

[heavy sandal]

I just want mei and diana to live out their natural lives cottage-core style back on earth

[gusty turret]

Diana probably had an Aneurysm from controlling 75% of the megamek then Mei probably died from starvation or dehydration soon after

[plain plover]

he was either referring to the animated series or they get revived in ARK 2 and fall in love with each other, this time with Mey-yin possessing the memories of dying together from age in Arat Prime with Diana, now searching for Diana and trying to re-unite with a version that doesn't have the memories they shared in the Island-Extinction Saga.

like Shrek 4

[tender wasp]

[heavy sandal]

I didnt even know there were 4 shreks

[gusty turret]

Also if they didn't die why wouldn't they have finished off the last titans?

Me neither i knew there were 2

[tender wasp]

Cause teh weren't able too.

[gusty turret]

No movie deserves 3 sequels

[plain plover]

nope, they left for Arat Prime in the meks after wounding the King titan

[tender wasp]

They only could hurt the king titan and as I understood it there were way more than only 3 at their time.

normal titans so

[plain plover]

Shrek 4 was pretty good, Shrek 3 is an indescribable nightmare

[lyric tendon]

who knows that's what HLN-A referenced in the ending

[plain plover]

le lost souls without each other

[tender wasp]

I think that was directed to us .. probably meeting H-LNA again..

[lyric tendon]

i hope they don't retcon Dia-Yin in the animated series in favor of Helena and her mystery wife

[gusty turret]

I know Mei slaughtered a bunch of the existing Titans defending Helana but Dianas last note makes me think there were still a lot more

[tender wasp]

I wouldn't even be suprised when they did cut Diana.

[lyric tendon]

i'd be hella sad

[tender wasp]

same

[gusty turret]

"Mission Log: First Lieutenant Diana Altaras, URE 82nd Fighter Squadron, and Li Mei-Yin of Yi, Beast Queen of the Jungle, the Depths and the Wastes

If you're reading this, then like us, then you managed to break free of the ARKs. So welcome to Earth, kid. Hope you like ravaged hellscapes, because the bad news is you’re late to the apocalypse. The good news is you can do something about it.

The two of us are going to do what we can to help, but it won't be enough. You see those huge, ugly monsters out there? They need to be cleared out, or Earth can't recover. Also, if you see one with an X shaped scar on its chest, do me a favor and flip it off before you finish it.

We'll do our part. The rest is up to you. Good luck."

Im sad we don't actually flip it off now

Hey wildcard please edit the Extinction ending and let us flip off the king titan before we kill it

[lyric tendon]

"it's a figure of expression"

[heavy sandal]

you can flip off your screen next time you do KT

[gusty turret]

I actually just don't do king titan because it doesn't give levels

[heavy sandal]

but the implant looks good

[lyric tendon]

but the ending will be satisfying

[gusty turret]

Maybe one day wildcard will make actually challenging bosses that you don't just have to brute force and actually need to strategize

[tender wasp]

Ext ending is nice and will be my ending of the Ark 1 series and the point were my story continues. Rest will be scraped in my Ark univers.. no Gen/Gen2.. no Ark 2

[plain plover]

Rockwell cactus soup is a form of stratagy

[gusty turret]

Eh kinda but Rockwell is probably the easiest fight in the game

[heavy sandal]

which one

[gusty turret]

Rockwell and Rockwell prime actually

[heavy sandal]

ab rockwell for sure is the easiest

[gusty turret]

You can do both on foot

[heavy sandal]

gen1 rockwell is hard solo

[gusty turret]

Im not counting master controller as Rockwell

Master controller and King Titan are the hardest ones

Master controller is actually p easy tho

You can do any of the other bosses with a stego and tek phase pistol

Or just freshtamed rexes or shadowmanes

[plain plover]

what about alpha dragon

[gusty turret]

Max level wildtamed shadowmanes shred

Don't even wanna think about how bad bred lines hurt it

[heavy sandal]

you can kill alpha dragon with one deinon in like 2 minutes

[tender wasp]

Raggi bosses are also easy.

[gusty turret]

Yeah, and you can cheese center and do it on foot

That's all the tekgrams you need with minimal effort

[plain plover]

Dragon isn't about how you kill it, it's about how fast you kill it.

[gusty turret]

The only time I've actually been scared of a boss fight was when i accidentally let my shadowmane get knocked out in alpha rag by the Manticore and the Manticore instantly landed right on top of me

I miss when broodmother was actually the most terrifying thing to fight because it just like ate everything in no time

And how does Mei take a giga into a boss fight 😒

She actually just has god mode on the whole story and doesn't even try to hide it

[heavy sandal]

mei's giga is what convinced the overseer to add restrictions

she for sure used commands to forcetame adult drake, though.

hacker. still love her though

[gusty turret]

She takes a giga into a boss fight, tranqs a Drake, literally kills hundreds and hundreds of titans with a singular mek and a few dinos, and then still gets a happy ending with her girlfriend

Ngl i think it would've been better to give her a warriors death fighting off the horde

She's my favorite space dinosaur lesbian but i feel like a warrior death was more fitting for who she is

[lyric tendon]

that's why i called Mei the "Admin Abuser" or the "Solo Alpha"

[plain plover]

she fought the other titans rather then the 4 big ones remaining in Extinction, they were all about mek sized

Forest, Desert, Ice, and king titans are the biggest ones, the titans she fought all looked like small versions of the gamma king titan

[median stream]

Raia lived. Mother of Monsters made it to be a One who Tries Again. She is still out there.

Yea?

[digital flower]

from Scorched? I thought it was Raia

[median stream]

sorry spelled it wrong

[digital flower]

Yeah she was alive when the original group of ARK survivors were around but by time us the survivor arrives I imagine she's long gone as well

[median stream]

she met helena as an old woman. but helena was nearing the end of her journey. Aberration didnt last long, extinction maybe a couple years to build meks. she only had to make it till helena ascended.

i should say, Aberration didn't last long for Helena, most of the building was being done when she arrived, they were already at the tek stage.

[digital flower]

I imagine Raia is dead though because she didn't join Helena on her journey and when we go to Scorched we see no trace of her left behind besides from her tablets

[tender wasp]

I think Abs was pretty long, cause building the gateway project took a lot of time.

Abs was even longer than Ext (for the note people).

[median stream]

Yes the build on Aberration was very long, lots of notes. i was just saying Helena showed up at the end, making her time there short. Suggesting Raia's possible survival. Most of the notes were before Helena showed up. And Raia says herself she doesn't really help people anymore she was old and keeps to herself. She knew everything about the ark by that time. Who says she didn't ascend after meeting Helena. Always just imagined she was out there somewhere. Collecting charcoal from trees somewhere 🙂

[lyric tendon]

I mean Raia doesnt need to if she wanted to

If her reasoning for her not ascending aside from her age is helping the denizens of SE, i think that's enough of a good ending for me

[median stream]

I agree she probably wouldn't leave scorched due to John memory. Though its the timeline i guess i always wondered about. Could she have held on for a few years for helena to ascend.

Imagine being 95 and unable to die. lol just keep respawning

[lyric tendon]

With an army of wyverns? That be the best retirement of all time

[median stream]

🤣

[lyric tendon]

Then again Raia wouldn't be alive when Helena becomes HD and tampering the ARKs allowing respawns on the post-Author survivors aka us

If she were alive the wyverns would be as passive as the crystal wyverns

[median stream]

Idk guess thats the question. Helena shows up at the end of Ab portals were already being built. Maybe i guess 5 years max on extinction before santiago finishes the meks. but i think it was less time than that. raia was old but its possible.

[lyric tendon]

Then again time in the ARKs are different than here because the day/night cycle are artificially sped up

Except for Ab surface

[tender wasp]

We don't really know how the real ratio is but I would expect a normal 24h day, cause none of the survivors mentions any abnormality about it not even on pre Abs.

ANd a year would still be a year. They even seem to know how much time passes and have an idea even of what date it is at least on Ext later.

[azure ether]

Anyone has a good website that explains story of ark briefly?

[median stream]

NeedytheNoodle on youtube has done an incredible job telling the main story line. Though they are not short.

[lyric tendon]

In the pinned posts

[azure ether]

Thx, I’m hugely intrigued

[iron hound]

So Nida is a young girl, right?

What if she is actually the girl in the ARK 2 trailer?

[lyric tendon]

we are speculating since we dont know the timeframe between Rockwell killed Gabriel and the other custodians and us releasing the ring

it be strange if it's "meanwhile" tho the events of the notes unfolds while tribes fighting each other over a dodo

[left vortex]

i don' think a young girl would know to make a complex ring separation sequence. She was more like in her 30s maybe 40s

[left vortex]

more than likely it was many many years after he killed the crew. Considering how much Rockwell spread all over the ship would give how much time has passed.

i mean we don't know who the girl is. I think she's just a new character we have yet to meet. I always kept thinking it was Helena's clone possibly but after Gen2 ending i hope that's not the case.

[lyric tendon]

i mean she tampered the simulation as a hobby who knows she can make a protocol in a moment

or rather the protocol does exist just for seeding the colony to another planet or from attaching the rings to the actual ship, she just removed the authorization access so everyone else can access it in case of an emergency

[left vortex]

who knows. I'm just theorizing

[bronze turtle]

Maybe Helena Walker?

[plain plover]

Rockwell managed to take over the entire garden ring in a couple weeks

It’s kind of established that Gen 2 takes place 3 months to a year after Extinction, Rockwell was not on it for long but he quickly became very powerful

[left vortex]

yeah. But i still don't like that they didn't thoroughly explained how he got to the ship. the only clue was Nida talking about the uplink from Arat Prime. otherwise not even HLNA knew how he got there

[lyric tendon]

100% doubt be Helena... even if she's a Fed copy, she will not know who she is in the ARKs or any of the ARK Authors

[left vortex]

not to mention she's technically still alive as a homo deus i think

[bronze turtle]

True, maybe she's the chick on the cover arts, or is Helena the cover girl?..

[lyric tendon]

she used to be until they changed her in #ark-animated-series

[left vortex]

Helena's been on every keyart they've made for Ark.

[bronze turtle]

Okay, that help my headache of thinking about this lol

[lyric tendon]

even in Gen 2 weirdly enough

[left vortex]

yeah human and HLNA

[lyric tendon]

lucky for you key art is not canon

[mental basin]

Even Genesis: Part 2

[left vortex]

yes

she has the tek bow

[mental basin]

She does

But it's not canon

[left vortex]

no it's not

it's just to promote the game and interest people to play it.

[bronze turtle]

yup

[bronze turtle]

Thank you Mate

[iron hound]

Is it? It's still possible that Helena got cloned multiple times, maybe there's another Helena/Mei/Diana or even Rockwell on the Genesis ship

I mean, they probably have their engram in the archive

[tender wasp]

There could be clones/engrams of them but all without the Memories form the arks. So all of them might be very different if they came back.

[mental basin]

It's not canon.

Yes, she's on the ship canonically within Lore

But we don't see her or hear of her once

Until the ending

[iron hound]

It's HLNA in the ending

[mental basin]

Helena is not HLN-A.

[left vortex]

its a part of herself though.

[lyric tendon]

yes but no

[left vortex]

Homo Deus Helena is else where watching over everything in a far distance reality

[mental basin]

No, she's faded away.

Not dead, but she's lost herself.