#lore-nerdz

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bronze turtle
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ohhh ok

bold dove
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You ever played Call of Duty: Zombies?

bronze turtle
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yea

bold dove
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It's like how the maps progress through their in the story.

bronze turtle
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oh i get it now

ornate hull
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It's sad the the poglin meme has died down😔

teal kelp
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Ikr people overused it

fallow sapphire
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A true tragedy

plain plover
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It hit its peak with the mask, until they allow us to use it as a costume for the Noglin it will be that way

paper python
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Almost done with reading all the explorer notes on the Island đŸ˜©

swift jolt
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yall weird lore nerdz

fallow sapphire
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Thank you

tender wasp
remote leaf
neat nacelle
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Is it just me or does the skeleton in the Manticore Arena look like the King Titan?

bold dove
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Unless it's a fake skeleton, to show you the horrors up ahead. Then i doubt the skeleton has anything to do with the king-titan.

ornate hull
bold dove
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There's plenty of moments in ARK that map-design 'does' matter.

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Like how on Genesis 2, the skybox can tell you which galaxy you're in at that day.

potent bone
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Skybox?

pale mesa
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the skybox is basically the image that makes up the sky

potent bone
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Ohh lol

vivid notch
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nerdzzzzz

open pewter
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hi guys how does shadowmanes sadles work what is the top and can you inbreed them ?

ornate hull
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You can indeed anything

ornate hull
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So do we know the location of extinction

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Because I saw someone do a lore video and gavin was credited in it so does that mean anything?

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And they said extinction was located in the east us

plain plover
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if Gavin was credited I assume either ned or Raasclark made it

ornate hull
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Nope some guy named ninjakiller

bronze turtle
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You guys I found that sonic is part of the story

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He killed Helena in an alternate universe

ornate hull
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Alternate universes arnt canon

jolly warren
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I'm cannon to the story I killed all of humanity but some and the players are the people I haven't killed and I'm the last boss

brazen cobalt
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ARK Genesis Part 2 Song | One Last Ride | #NerdOut

lyric tendon
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seriously?

zealous citrus
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So I'm tryna figure out what happens Post extinction boss kill. Abberation ark lands and rockwell boards earth(how is rockwell alive aswell). But why are they leaving and why is rockwell going with them can't he just re-infect planet earth especially titans are out of the way. And I did see on Google earths rotation is broken so I could see why people would want to leave but then what was the point of saving earth just to leave it? Or i guess construction of genesis 2 needed to be finished and wasn't until long after extinction even tho its said to been in process with the arks themselves.

tender wasp
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Gen 2 was pre Extinction so. It was launched at about the time the Arks went into orbit after the Element war between Feds/URE. This is hinted in Nidas and Gen 2 Santiago notes. It is also hinted that the ship is allready on it's jounry for centuries at least allready and that Rockwells must have been on the ship only for about 3000 days.

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It also hinted that a port to the ship was left open and this might be the option how Rockwell got to the ship. He must have gone from Abs Ark to Arat prime and most obviously uplaoded himself to the Gen 2 ship after getting knowlege of it, why could be various reasons, like earth is to small and not worth it.. with a ship he can slowly conquer the whole cosmos, why mess with earth were he has to deal with a ton of surviors now there with all the landed arks, also Arks purge all element and Abs Ark as the only "infected" one might be easily purged.. only to name some..

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So in the end it is your own decission how to fill that gap they left open.

zealous citrus
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Oooh yeaa that clears it up how rockwell got there and such things, thanks! I guess in my lore id go with earth being nice and Dandy. For the Titan A.E respect

tender wasp
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Welcome. My Earth is safe and sound as well and Gen 2 ship still far away and not relevant for my story ^^

ornate hull
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Your story will continue

tender wasp
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Mine will on Earth yes XD

ornate hull
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So why dont you go through the other maps?

urban stone
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Santiago in Ark 2: family

solid iris
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The underground ocean location on Gen 2 is called S.U.M.P.

Does anyone happen to know what that stands for?

The building down there is called Aquatic R&D Center which I'm going to assume is "Research and Development"

tired ospreyBOT
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check Case #12316 @twilit mantle has been muted for 1 hour.
Reason: Posting an unauthorised Discord invite link

ornate hull
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Succulent underground material pump

solid iris
ornate hull
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i made it up

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idk what it stands for

teal kelp
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Sus Umogus Mogus Pensus 😳

red mist
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Some Underwater Mega Placee

fading atlas
teal kelp
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If extinction santiago was Vintiago:
Helena: No Santiago that's suicide
Santiago: King Titan is strong
But not as strong as family
-king titan dies-

quasi nymph
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Okay, hold up...

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Are you canonically just a random survivor who happened to end up in the ARKs?

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Or are you someone in particular?

fallow sapphire
quasi nymph
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Ah, alright.

fallow sapphire
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a lot of the story about the survivor is up to the player

quasi nymph
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I couldn't find anything about who you play as on google, so I was just wondering.

fallow sapphire
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you can choose where they started, if they ever ascend, if they reach extinction, if the person on genesis is the same as the ARK character or someone new

quasi nymph
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Right. Okay. Thanks.

fallow sapphire
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feel like i went overboard with it... but yeah np

tender wasp
# ornate hull So why dont you go through the other maps?

Cause my lore differs a lot from original lore. I changed a lot to make my story more logical and more fluent and also some stuff I allready had planned out befor gen is way different. I am also not that big on the whole gen story and alleays was more for staying on earth so gen will not take any part in my story.

ornate hull
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will you still play gen 1 and 2

tender wasp
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I play it.

ornate hull
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good

tender wasp
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I also played the other maps but my story is different arks or at least the arks melted in one. So my island like but more tropical ark is Island and abs in one.. cause I allways found that whole teleporting thing a bit meh and so I habe other ways to get people were I want them. Also no homo deus in my ark lore.

hasty imp
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Huh

fallow sapphire
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Yes

gusty turret
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Your lore sounds boring

fallow sapphire
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Maybe it sounds so boring it’s interesting

tame field
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So the genesis ship was launched generations ago right? How long ago were the Arks launched?

solid iris
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For anyone who was also curious about why the underground ocean on Gen 2 was called S.U.M. P. I did little bit of research and found this, the from a Wikipedia page:

A sump can also be found in an aquarium, mainly a reef system. The sump sits below the main tank and is used as a filter, as well as a holding place of unsightly equipment such as heaters and protein skimmers. The main advantage of having a sump plumbed into an aquarium is the increase of water in the system, making it more stable and less prone to fluctuations of pH and salinity.```

For anyone who has been down there, it does in fact house a lot of "unsightly equipment" for the ship. It's seems like its definitely a run off area for the lakes above.
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I'm still unsure what the acronym is, sadly, which is what I'd really like to know

fallow sapphire
tame field
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Yeah thats what I thought it just feels like we should see more history if they've been around for generations. Like your telling me in 10s-100s of years only 4 people decided to write notes on the island and theres only like 5 ruins?

fallow sapphire
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Yeah thats more just to not make lore not go crazy deep, or take forever just to cover one map
 I would love to see others notes, but realistically the notes in the game address the main tribes and such on the maps

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Realistically there should be more, but people would be less interested in the lore then they already are if there were tons of different people instead of just a few per map

hollow trellis
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Didn’t expect to see you here. Ferox_Think @fallow sapphire

merry cipher
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stupid unnecessary mega pool

fallow sapphire
lyric tendon
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Salt
Under
My
Pants

gusty turret
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Tf

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Oh

brave venture
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Your in the ark (Thats my lore)

gusty turret
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Why did Rockwell blow up the ship he could've kept it we clearly didn't finish him off with the laser

bitter barn
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Didn't we blow up the ship Ferox_Think

gusty turret
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No

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I don't think unless HLNA did

bitter barn
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I can't see any other reason why she would stay on the ship after we got yeeted out

gusty turret
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Idk i thought she was just gonna stay with Rockwell in his last moments and maybe try to back herself up

bitter barn
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I think she was the one who initiated the separate the rings protocol

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so Eden could crash on the planet

gusty turret
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Yeah she did but Rockwell im pretty sure was the one who started pulling the ship apart from the inside out

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And then it either naturally exploded or she exploded it

teal kelp
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The ship exploded because rockwell was damaged too hard and rockwell was part of the ship

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So that part of the ship exploded along with the little uncorrupted parts

bitter barn
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I don't need TEK when I got Family

gusty turret
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Maybe the real missed transform on the 15th statistical outcome matrix are the friends we made along the way

teal kelp
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Yes

ornate hull
urban stone
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people forgetting the ship has a god damn reactor on It?..

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The ships power source probably had a meltdown and exploded

urban stone
queen sequoia
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grug

bitter barn
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grug

gusty turret
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Grug

patent vigil
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grug

stuck torrent
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in my "story" my survivor is me, after all they went around and got the mind and memories of random people

ornate hull
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Grug kinda shit

bronze oasis
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any one on

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i need to discuss something

fallow sapphire
bronze oasis
teal kelp
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The center also has bugs

bronze oasis
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the kids from abberation were there

teal kelp
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Rly

bronze oasis
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does that mean that the center is half canon to the story of how the kids caught up to the survivors on ab

teal kelp
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Fun fact: one can say that Valguero is Aberration before the nuke

fallow sapphire
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What do you mean the kids were there?

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The kids woke up on ab, they didnt ascend from the center or something

bronze oasis
fallow sapphire
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Even if that was true, which as a a theory and has been stated the non-canon maps are, well, just that, they literally never mention another ARK or anything. They started on ab, they didn’t leave the center to get to ab

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In lore the non-canon maps are non-canon, but for head canons for your characters they can be. So if you want your character to go across all the different ARKs, then sure, you can head canon that. But the official lore has the non story maps as not canon

lyric tendon
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i theorized that non-Story ARKs are just part of the Gen Sim since the URE and the Feds collaborated with 2 means of escape also hence the Crystal Wyverns, Griffins, and Tropes in "Survive the ARK" mission

hell even Nida herself put the Zombie Dodos and the DodoRex in there even though they aren't supposed to be canon in the first place

gusty turret
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They're probably real

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Seeing as the magmasaur was tested on scorched there's no reason crystal wyverns and griffens and such wouldn't exist

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Wildcards gonna pull some middle school English essay bs on us at the end of Ark 2 and have us wake up from another simulation

fallow sapphire
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i can believe that the non-story arks are other arks around, but they arent part of the story for a fact, atleast up until gen 2 where the creatures from those maps were used

south osprey
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The only non-canon map I could consider partially canon is Ragnarok (arguably the best non-canon map).
But even then, it's quite a stretch.

wraith aurora
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Ñ

tropic ice
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I love how serious HLN-A sounds on gen 1

woven jackal
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So I’m confused between extinction and genesis 1&2, I thought the earth is fine after defeating the King titan and letting the arks land on earth. How and why does the genesis colony ship come into play?

plain plover
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Earth is fine, the colony ship launched at the same time as the ARKs, it’s been in space looking for a habitable planet all this time

woven jackal
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Okay that makes more sense, any lore on why the ship wouldn’t just return to earth?

rigid palm
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When rockwell came down from the ab ark he went to arat prime and beamed himself up to the colony ship and started infecting it

woven jackal
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I’ve only read all the explorer notes I’ve found which is many at this rate but still a lot I haven’t read or seen

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I should just read them all online

rigid palm
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(Im guessing) the reason the ship didnt come back to earth is because rockwell took it over and he wanted to go somewhere else, not earth

woven jackal
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Gotcha, is there a place to best read/watch all the lore streamlined?

rigid palm
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Im sure theres some websites out there but i havent looked at any of them, i learn like 90% of lore just from watching this channel

woven jackal
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Gotchu, ty ty

charred roost
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the ship left before the ark project had started on earth. it was their first attempt to save humanity. the arks came shortly after

ornate hull
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Plus the colony ship is thousands of years away from earth so why turn back just complete the missions

lyric tendon
ornate hull
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Lutiacris speed is faster

warm brook
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so anyone want to figure out how big the gen2 ship is ?

ornate hull
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How big is it

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Probably bigger than my yard

fallow sapphire
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Atleast 1 inch

cedar tide
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lts top stat dinos and some arb and mats for xbox:win version small tribes pm

quasi nymph
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It's larger than two football fields.

rigid palm
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While this is correct, it does not say accurately how large the ship is

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I would guesstimate 40-50 football fields

quasi nymph
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I was making a joke...

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But uh... even 40 or 50 is not nearly large enough.

ornate hull
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Just saying a single ark is the size is roughly 30 miles

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And an ark is puny to the ship

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One genesis ship is around 100 island arks long

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So like 3000-3500miles long

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But that's just me eyeballing in spectator

rigid palm
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 i stand corrected

quasi nymph
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That is bad math.

ornate hull
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How

quasi nymph
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It would be about 3000 miles.

ornate hull
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Nvm I'm a dumbass

quasi nymph
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Nah, you're good.

ornate hull
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So to put it into perspective a normal ark is about the size of London

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So basically 100 London's

rigid palm
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In america terms?

ornate hull
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Ya

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30 miles or 48 kilometers

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So if I do math correctly 4800 kilometers

rigid palm
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Jesus
3k miles?

ornate hull
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Yee but if that's true how the hell did the ship launch from arat prime

rigid palm
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Nanotech? Or maybe just tek tech

ornate hull
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Because unless arat prime is as large as a continent it isnt happening

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But if I know is correct arat prime is located in Australia so maybe they turned all of Australia into a launch site

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Or Im wrong on all of this and I'm spouting out bullshit

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So on a map it would be about from the west coast us to the east coast of usa

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So all my credibility is gone because I cant do simple math

urban stone
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Well the launching place could’ve been build vertically as well, it doesn’t necessarily have to be sideways / horizontally?

ornate hull
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True

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God I thought my theory was big brain but now that I look at it I'm just a dumb

rigid palm
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Asia is definitely big enough to do that

ornate hull
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True

rigid palm
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But still, that massive amount of land must be near impossible

ornate hull
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Well only the rings had land not the entire ship

urban stone
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Yeah, and when you’re building a ship that’s literally made to leave a planet, I guess you don’t really care about the size of the launching place as much as you would if you it was for planetary restoration

rigid palm
urban stone
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They just 3D printed the ship

ornate hull
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So im thinkin they just dug up all to the Bahamas and did it that way

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Or just something around that size

urban stone
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Or they set up a launch pad in the ocean (pacific or smth) if there still were oceans back then

ornate hull
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I mean to get all the dirt for the rings

urban stone
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Ah

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Yeah possibly

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I do wonder just how big of a team was working on the project though, like just how many people

rigid palm
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Generations im sure

ornate hull
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Probably everyone else that wernt working on the arks

urban stone
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Possibly, but wasn’t there a part in one of Santiago’s entries / notes where he indirectly mentions that the project is more or less kept from the public? Something along the lines of “if the public finds out” or smth iirc?

ornate hull
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How do you keep something that big from the public

urban stone
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đŸ€·â€â™‚ïž

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We don’t know how the ship was built exactly, they could’ve built it underground, etc. still ways to keep it secret.

rigid palm
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“Ok people of Asia, please evacuate to any other continent, there is nothing suspicious going on here, just a gas leak”
“Across the whole continent?”
“Uhh, yes. A very large gas leak”

ornate hull
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Wasnt earth already corrupted when they were building it

urban stone
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Believe so, which is why they were in a haste, no?

rigid palm
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Most likely, it was just an example of how hard it would be to hide a 3k mile long ship from the public

ornate hull
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Then I think aisa would of already been evacuated

urban stone
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I do wonder if the Titans popped up around the same time as the ship tho?

ornate hull
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I do believe they poped up half way through

urban stone
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Because if you can make a giant damn ship, then I certainly believe you would have enough fire power to fight them

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Especially early on

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crashes colony ship into the king titan

tender wasp
urban stone
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But wasn’t the arks built / launched after the ship?

tender wasp
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It is never mentioned but cause they worked together in some points on both projects (so Fed mostly ship, URE mostly Arks.. UMA was URE if I am not mistaken) I would say they were made simultaniously and Santiago mentions at one point that the URE works on the Arks.

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When they talk about the data base for example he mentions that they took DNA from all humans they could find and still were able of to make Matrix engramms and that the ship and the Arks have a copy of that base database each. One for the Arks that were built and one for the ship that was built. So it would be not surprising that both ways to save humanity were launched at around the same time.

ornate hull
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@tender wasp sence you are smart do you think my theory on the ship size correct

tender wasp
ornate hull
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yes

warm brook
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You know there is a scale on the picture I posted

fallow sapphire
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The ship was built in space guys
 in some Santiago notes he mentions it

tender wasp
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So the Arks might have been built in space as well.

fallow sapphire
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it is possible, but i doubt the arks were as we do see giant craters where they land, so although its possible imo it seems more likely they were build on earth

tender wasp
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yup or both, some in space, some on earth

fallow sapphire
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also possible

charred roost
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when they built the arks, the element was already ravaging the planet. they couldnt have built them and then launched them or they would have element corruption

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it's pretty clear to me that humans at the the arks were made had energy to matter technology. they didnt need to launch massive mountains into space. they just needed large enough energy sources to literally replicate the arks.

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sorry for using star trek terminology lol

fallow sapphire
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its possible they built them in space, but at the time these things were being made, element was destroying people yet, it was just to powerful to get rid of. I could believe either way honestly. The contaminated soil was a problem for the ship aswell but Santiago made the stryders for that purpose, so I assume the URE and transhumans would have made another way to clear it out.

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actually if i remember correctly, there might be a note that talks about this

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alright so it doesnt specifically say if they built them in space or not, just that they moved them to space after the proto-ARKs... so that could mean they were built on earth then launched or built in space. Oh also, if your curious, its tidbit glitch number 52

drowsy lotus
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Someone should make lore notes on center, rag, Val, crystal and lost island. Who agrees with me?

bold dove
fallow sapphire
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Eh idk
 the lack of story is kinda nice, cause you are creating your own not following others

ornate hull
plain plover
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CI I would like to know but they don't need one and there is no possible way they could fit into the main game's lore cleanly

lyric tendon
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the lore is all about the Authors anyways not us

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but it makes me think the boss notes in ARK Mobile makes feel like that's how they select creatures to genetically modified for the Proto-ARKs

hollow jackal
rigid palm
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The overseer is what runs the ark, you can see what happens if the overseer is killed in aberration

fallow sapphire
hollow jackal
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huh

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but homo dues allready has a form well, kindof

fallow sapphire
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Plus it was the transhumans working mainly on the ARKs, and they were pretty knowledgeable

rigid palm
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I dont believe that theory is true as the overseer looks like an ai, also it mentions somewhere that all the homo deus died off and helena is the last one

fallow sapphire
hollow jackal
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I guess so

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and they CAN make things out of this air,

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cause in the genesis 1 start/trailer/whatever she makes HLNA

fallow sapphire
lyric tendon
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hence Helena transfers her's to make HLN-A

hollow jackal
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but how would homo dues die off

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they're litteraly beings of energy.

fallow sapphire
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Thats what i am saying, they dont, they just become more machine then human

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It all becomes calculations, no emotions

rigid palm
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They dont die exactly, that was a poor choice of words on my part

hollow jackal
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wait

fallow sapphire
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You are correct in a sense. Their human side dies. But the homo deus themself doesnt

hollow jackal
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Holy crap guys, in the abberation asscencion ONLY you become someone that looks like a homo dues after going into the giant space gate

rigid palm
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According to the wiki they “lost themselves”

hollow jackal
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In space

rigid palm
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I take this to mean they faded from existence

fallow sapphire
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Yeah I still wonder what that was about, but I assume its part of the transfer. You turn into “code” then get reborn

rigid palm
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Im confused as to why there are rings near the crystalline lake if the ascension takes you to the portal

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Its like there is a fork in the rings and the crystalline lake one wasn’t finished?

fallow sapphire
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They were ripped apart, you end up following the shorter path

hollow jackal
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one of santiago's notes:
So here I am, on site for Genesis.

Led my share of teams before, but this project is...yeah.

How do I describe an attempt to recreate everything and everyone that ever lived on Earth?

This one's so big, it's got the feds working with the URE.

Damn, that probably sounded sarcastic.

Whoever's accessing this-I know how important this project is, how serious things are.

We've barely got time to cram our message in a bottle and pitch it overboard before the end.

It shouldn't come as a shock that both sides of the Element War could team up in the face of a global extinction event.

fallow sapphire
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His first one on gen 2, yeah

hollow jackal
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Key word: Extinction

rigid palm
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Your point being?

hollow jackal
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also I know it was the element and the corruption, but how the heck did the king titan exist

fallow sapphire
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The element corruption got so big it made the titans, and its head was the king

rigid palm
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The king titan emerged when element levels got too high, some of the element turned into him and the other titans

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The titans are beings of pure element

hollow jackal
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but then why aren't there more titans, or corpses of them scattered around

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if the element levels are so high, why aren't there tons

fallow sapphire
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Cause they were killed

rigid palm
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There are, there are massive skeletons in places

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The survivors (helena, santiago and the others) killed a few

fallow sapphire
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The 4 on the map are the most powerful that remain

hollow jackal
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but no live ones

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other than the 4

fallow sapphire
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Plus there might be more around other parts of earth, we dont know

hollow jackal
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true, that was only one part, yet still.

fallow sapphire
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Also because of gameplay, they have to limit a lot of things to gameplay

rigid palm
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Yeah there might be a queen titan on a different continent, who knows

fallow sapphire
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I dont think there are really genders, i think “king” is just associated with power, thus why its the king titan, its the main pillar of power that element had

hollow jackal
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I still thing a broodmother turned into something like the titans would be cool

rigid palm
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The point being that there might have been (most likely) that other titans were on different parts of earth

hollow jackal
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yeah. also what are we seeing in the last part of the abberation ascension?

fallow sapphire
hollow jackal
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is that when the arks go down onto earth is extinction?

fallow sapphire
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The ab ascension is when we land on extinction

hollow jackal
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right, thought so.

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but then why does the obelisk turn off? shouldn't it be purging the corruption?

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like the ark we see landing in the extinction ascension?

rigid palm
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Its the sunken forest ob im guessing

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When it malfunctioned

fallow sapphire
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Nah the obelisks just powered the shield around the sanctuary

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Aight gtg, dont misbehave while im gone

hollow jackal
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đŸ€”

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but...

hollow jackal
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so wth

rigid palm
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Yeah cause the ark was functional

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The obelisk you see in the ab ascension is an ob on earth, the one in the extinction ascension is one on an ark

hollow jackal
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huh

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idk about that

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HOLY CRAP I'VE GOT IT
The sound in the end of the abberation ascension is allmost exactly the ice titan's primary roar 😎

rigid palm
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Hmm idk if thats intentional cause it would make sense if it was the king titans roar not the ice titans but still pretty cool

hollow jackal
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ik right, but the king titan's roar doesn't realy sound like it

rigid palm
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Which it also doesnt make sense if my theory is correct and the ob that powered down was the sunken forest ob, why would the ice titan be in the sunken forest?

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So im guessing they put that in and then made something very similar coincidentally for the ice titan

hollow jackal
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I guess so

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it really sounds like it though.

rigid palm
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Pretty cool tho

hollow jackal
#

what was rockwell doing while extinction happened?

rigid palm
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He was sitting in his ark sulking after we beat him cuz hes weaksauce

plain plover
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ironic he was the one who invented cactus broth

hollow jackal
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lol

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nerva tried to do a rockwell tho

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"I am destined to be a god"

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"I will weild the power of the obelisks"

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fucking dies

fallow sapphire
#

Technically Rockwell tried to do a Nerva, Nerva did it first

hollow jackal
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Nerva failed tho

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He also didn't do it right

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he just wandered around the hallways like a idiot

fallow sapphire
#

Valid points

bold dove
fallow sapphire
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That was his point, Nerva was trying to do what Rockwell achieved
 kind of

ornate hull
#

Shark week

median stream
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I always had a question about the AB ascension. Santiago has to make the rings we use as they destroyed their own overseer room ruining the ab ark. During the animation it appears we fly through a completely destroyed ark. As we find out ab survives it lands/crashes on earth. Did Santiago destroy a second ark to clear a path for our beams to hit the planet?

fallow sapphire
drowsy lotus
#

What genetics did Rockwell use to make noglins?

rigid palm
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He used the power of tentacle

ornate hull
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Probably a little bit of this and a little bit of that

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Maybe that one fungus that controls ants

gusty turret
#

Are we even completely sure he made them and they weren't just results of the element in the soil bonding with already existing creatures? The only thing he definitely made were the summoners and the experimental giga which he didn't even technically create but he probably was planning on implementing it at some point

fallow sapphire
#

So its possible element naturally made it but its more likely Rockwell did, and even if he didn’t it was because of him

gusty turret
#

Is it really stated Gabriel was controlled by one it's a safer bet rockwell just hentai'd him and sucked his life force out

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It just seems like it couldve been one

fallow sapphire
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It wasnt his life being taken, it was fight giving away
 he said something crawled up his back and latched on, problem is I cant check what I am saying cause I cant access the notes

plain plover
#

that is what he said, but all Rockwell people have this "Tentacle cross" behind their heads

fallow sapphire
#

Isnt that the sword they use?

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If i remember correctly they pull a sword from their back which I believe is that and slam the ground with it

plain plover
#

they do have a weird badly textured sword but that's not the thing on their back

fallow sapphire
#

Hm idk what it is then, but i assume atleast at first he used the noglin, he wouldnt have the power to just corrupt someone on the fly
 or maybe he would, idk

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Honestly that should have been a creature in the boss fight, a noglin

gusty turret
#

Yeah it's definitely too easy

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But at least it isn't master controller hard

fallow sapphire
#

I think that would have made it more interesting, you didnt want to bring super op creatures for once cause then they would kill you, but you also need powerful tames to beat him

fallow sapphire
gusty turret
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Yeah but it's still a pain, especially before tranfers were open

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Couldn't do the reaper strat

fallow sapphire
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I did it solo without transfers

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Just well bred rexes and good saddles

gusty turret
#

How tf

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Yeah we did it a 10 man with good rexes and cap saddles and got destroyed by the gigas at the end

fallow sapphire
#

All comes down to skill and precision, knowledge on what your doing, and knowing what to bring

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But ive done it twice solo with only rexes on alpha

gusty turret
#

We all knew what we were doing tho

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Except for the one guy who forgot flak and medbrews

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We don't talk about him

fallow sapphire
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Lol

gusty turret
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Important question tho are they official stat rexes cuz we had like a month of breeding rexes

plain plover
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last time I did controller we were a group of I think 6 people doing gamma with some good rexes, but I don't know how good.

fallow sapphire
#

Oh yeah official stats, took forever to breed but yeah they were amazing

plain plover
#

I was the only survivor

fallow sapphire
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The one thing about cmc is that its only the boss that gets effected by the difficulty, so you still need super bred creatures for every level

plain plover
#

thanks to my super tek suit which is always a priority in every play through of mine to obtain

gusty turret
ornate hull
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I would fight rockwell but I cant beat star dolphin

gusty turret
#

I managed to beat it gamma

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Beta and alpha you probably need a full mission

ornate hull
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The asteroids always fuck me over

fallow sapphire
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Im workin on beta, alpha is impossible solo just because of the missions

gusty turret
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You can blow up one of the skiffs that attack at the end right before you go to the whale part

fallow sapphire
#

Specifically survive the ark and cyoa

gusty turret
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Survive the ark is doable beta solo

fallow sapphire
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Yeah i have done that, alpha is impossible

gusty turret
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Oh yeah def

ornate hull
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Cyoa isnt to bad

fallow sapphire
#

On alpha?

ornate hull
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Oh nvm

gusty turret
#

Life support and code red isnt bad alpha

fallow sapphire
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Nah not too bad, just need good creatures

ornate hull
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The only thing that I hate about code red is the vent part

plain plover
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code red is for some reason really difficult for me to do on higher diffficulites

gusty turret
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Reaper normally does the trick

plain plover
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I used a reaper

fallow sapphire
plain plover
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50k hp

gusty turret
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And take a phase pistol and just hide behind the reaper while it tanks the giga and shred it with the pistol

ornate hull
#

Can you get a ferox in the vent bit on code red

gusty turret
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Maybe

plain plover
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with my super tek suit, I was able to just barely crawl out of the vents

fallow sapphire
ornate hull
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Maybe

plain plover
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I had lost most parts and when I got to the area before the giga room where you have to get off and press the terminal, oh boy

gusty turret
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It's doable but insanely hard and need good rng with the creature spawnS

fallow sapphire
gusty turret
#

I struggle with the tranq missions, maybe a good mantis with clubs?

plain plover
#

I might have been able to make it out with my tek gloves, if I hadn't slammed into a wall

ornate hull
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@gusty turret wait so in star dolphin with that skiff in the early part is it a 1 hit or dose it have the normal health

fallow sapphire
#

Quick tip for the giga, bring lesser antidotes if you didnt know

gusty turret
fallow sapphire
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Stops the bleed and I believe you can feed creatures lesser antidotes

plain plover
#

it almost killed a reaper of similar stats of mine on gamma

ornate hull
gusty turret
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There's one on the left you can explode and one on the right you can explode but you can only get one solo

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The left one removes one from the first wave and the right one removes one from the second wave

ornate hull
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Gonna be honest the server I play on the level cap is 800 before they disappear so takeing the giga head on with a tek rex inst to hard

fallow sapphire
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So thats what the skiffs in the point section are there for

gusty turret
fallow sapphire
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Bleeds are killer

plain plover
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what am I supposed to do? not jump in and just attack it becuase that's waht I was doing

ornate hull
#

Isnt there a little cubby you can hide in and shoot it

plain plover
#

well I didn't know that it was the first time I made it into the giga room

gusty turret
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Mine were like 205 babies and ended with around 70k health after imp and leveling and i lost maybe 5k health

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No points in melee

gusty turret
fallow sapphire
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It also depends on how many creatures you save in the pod section

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Cause how ever many you save will help you later with the giga

gusty turret
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Yeah i saved like 6

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Big dmg dealers

fallow sapphire
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My strat is to keep the front 5 alive, they are the hard hitters, and if anything else stays alive nice

gusty turret
#

Spino theri rex yuty tapa and racer was what i got i think

ornate hull
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Bro

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Just go in with a dodo strapped with c4

fallow sapphire
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You cant, you have to be riding the creature

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I wonder how effective rockets are


gusty turret
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You dismount your tame and leave it in one area then you go on the other end to cover more pods

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More effective the more people you do it with

fallow sapphire
#

Hard to have more when you are soloing ark

gusty turret
#

Still doable solo

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Have a good comp and med brews then a reaper or rex on the other end

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And the faster you do it the less health the giga has so speedrun as much as you can

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Especially easy to jump over the entire maze at the beginning

fallow sapphire
#

So thats how it works, k

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Can you use grapples in there? I was curious on that

gusty turret
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Nah they're disabled

fallow sapphire
#

Dang, but makes sense

gusty turret
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And use the explosive barrels in the arena to your advantage it knocks the giga out for a few seconds

fallow sapphire
#

Honestly speed is great to level until the chalis come around

fallow sapphire
gusty turret
fallow sapphire
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Yeah but if they get a poop attack you are dead

gusty turret
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Maybe on higher difficulty but gamma nah i did it with the fed suit and a stack of meds

fallow sapphire
#

Oh gamma is easy, finished beta recently
 wanna see on doing alpha

gusty turret
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There's probably a vid on YouTube

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On the method

fallow sapphire
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A vid for multiple people probably, I know a few people who have been trying alpha on certain missions solo and just couldnt

gusty turret
#

It actually is just jumping onto a ledge with the shadowmane and a phase pistol

fallow sapphire
#

For the giga section sure, but the other parts arent easy

gusty turret
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Only part thats an issue is the vents

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Well actually this was before grapples were patched in the mission

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So the vents and the terminal part

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But the rest is just shadowmane dash somewhere high

fallow sapphire
#

Well time to find a crazy shotgun bp and crafting skill it

gusty turret
#

You not got phase pistol yet?

fallow sapphire
#

I have but phase pistol aint gonna get me through the vents

gusty turret
#

Oh yeah true, this guy used a tek rifle

fallow sapphire
#

If you have friendly fire off that works, but if you have it on you hit yourself

gusty turret
#

Not like you wont have medbrews

fallow sapphire
#

It hits hard with creatures hitting and you hitting yourself

gusty turret
#

True

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Just don't suck

fallow sapphire
#

Why didnt i think of that

gusty turret
#

Who wins Dragonborn or Doomslayer

fallow sapphire
#

Yes

gusty turret
#

Good answer

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Technically this is still ark lore because of the multiverse

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So it needs to be discussed

fallow sapphire
#

technically really doubt that

gusty turret
#

Don't question the multiverse

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How do we know the young Transhumans never slew demons as the Doomslayer or wyverns as the Dragonborn

bronze turtle
#

B

maiden trench
#

What do passive carnivores (like the pteranodon) eat because I never see them hunting. Now I will turn this into OFFICIAL LORE. My theory is that Rockwell implanted pteranodons with a special genome that allows them to survive when in the wild without eating but when feeling unconscious it is squawked out which explains all the annoying squawking when the pteranodon is unconscious.

bold dove
lyric tendon
#

Now that ARK 1 has ended, this chat is slowly becoming a ghost town until ARK 2 is released ||(or the Animated Series is released to be severely judged)||

fallow sapphire
#

yeah i wish there was more to talk about

ornate hull
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Ya they kinda wraped up the lore in a bow

fallow sapphire
#

I want them to start talking about ark 2 more, i need more lore to go over. Lost island is cool and all but it aint got story

bold dove
#

Genesis 2 came out literally a month ago.

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"I want them to talk about the next game. Even though the last expansion just came out a month ago, and the game isn't even coming out till a whole year and a half later."

fallow sapphire
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Yes I know, and for the most part I am kidding. Just sucks that my favorite chat is a ghost town basically

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But no I am satisfied with Gen 2, its just the fact I don’t get to talk about it much

red mist
#

i mean i'd like them to talk about the next game but it's just board meetings and water cooler discussions at this point

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like obviously hype is cool but there's nothing really to talk about

ornate hull
#

You guys think ark 2 chronicles will be a thing

fallow sapphire
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Doubt it

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Honestly would like it better that way

ornate hull
#

Wait why

fallow sapphire
#

Jumping in with very little knowledge

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All we knows is its an alien planet, Santiago, a girl, and our survivor can technically still be alive

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Oh and no tek, and mostly primitive

ornate hull
#

And hairy rex

fallow sapphire
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Aye, and imo thats still more then I would like to know

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I dont want all the info, I want to jump in blind like my first day on ARK

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All i knew was it was a survival game and dinosaurs, nothing more

ornate hull
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Oh sorry I forgot there gonna pull a gen 1 and reveal everything about ark 2

fallow sapphire
#

Well they basically did that with gen 2 aswell

ornate hull
#

Not realy

fallow sapphire
#

Revealed all the creatures, and the main picture had Rockwell

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The only difference was we didnt get mini videos on the things

ornate hull
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They didnt reveal the Rockwell node so your point is invalid

fallow sapphire
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But they did in an explorer note, the one where he talks about creating his own creatures

ornate hull
#

Oh

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I thought that was more the corrupted survivors

fallow sapphire
#

The only thing i can think of they didnt announce was the corrupted survivors

ornate hull
#

The only mission we knew about was the star fox one

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And the tek canteen

fallow sapphire
#

Fair

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Well that was pretty minuscule compared to everything else

ornate hull
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Hey the tek canteen is awesome

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You can drink out of It 9 times

fallow sapphire
#

Yes, but compared to other things its not that amazing

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Anywho my point is they revealed a lot of gen 2, maybe not as much as gen 1 but still a lot
 I just dont want that for ark 2

ornate hull
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Ya but the thing is it's a full game not just a dlc so that probably wont happen

fallow sapphire
#

True

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Welp back to the mission grind, farewell for now

ornate hull
#

Farewell

azure ferry
#

gen 1 had the teasers, which were a main part of genesis, but the extinction extra life literally was in game xD, not at trailer but just gameplay

ornate hull
#

They did the same thing for extinction and gen 1

azure ferry
#

did they play the game themselves for gen 1?

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i though it was just teasers

ornate hull
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No but they did a video on biomes so that makes up for not playing

gusty turret
#

For pteranodons at least

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Doesn't say for quetzal but probably the same or fish

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That theory is actually trash tho Rockwell did not and would not do that

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He'd give them tentacles and lasers and extremely aggressive if he wanted it modified

brisk kernel
#

did we ever get news about a possible scorched earth ascension? or was it flat out denied by mods

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*devs

gusty turret
#

No news but probably won't happen because there's no reason to at this point

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They're still making more non canon maps and Ark 2 i doubt they'll take the time to do it

brisk kernel
#

I wouldnt say there isnt a reason. its an important part of the story. ive been playing through the story ARKs and beating scorched feels so empty and incomplete.

gusty turret
#

It'd just be a reskinned island ascension if they did do it it isn't even worth wanting

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It'd be important to the whole feel of scorched but nothing else really

brisk kernel
#

i would be okay with that, but to have absolutely nothing after a cool boss fight on a story ark is very disappointing

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i think it would be more important for scorched than any other map considering it is one of the shorter story arks. coming away with a good ending is very important imo

gusty turret
#

It wouldn't be worth the time or money for wildcard to add a whole new tek cave somewhere on scorched and animate an ascension

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Not even speaking of the glitches it would cause

brisk kernel
#

not a tek cave ascension. in explorer notes i believe they get an artifact from killing the manticore and use that at a pedestal in the ruins of a city. all wildcard would have to do is add an extra artifact dropped from the boss and a platform in the ruins and it feels a lot more complete. could even add a beacon of some sort where the pedestal is as and extra push

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and lets be honest neither time or money is an issue for wildcard

rigid palm
#

Of course time isnt an issue, they can just set a date for when it will be out and then release it 6 months later

#

Why would time be an issue

orchid osprey
#

I don’t know if this it’s the right place, but does gen 2 Rockwell have legs? Or does he just pull himself around

lyric tendon
#

you dont need legs when you are the ship

urban stone
#

I mean, he got tentacles he could move with?

bold dove
orchid osprey
#

So would it be possible for someone’s first ark to be se or ab and then go to the island

bold dove
gusty turret
#

How do we know they couldn't go back?

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I don't think it's ever stated anywhere they couldn't ascend back if they wanted too

tender wasp
#

I don't think they could go back. In the notes it allways felt like that an Ark has a certain pattern where they send you and that they send you allways further, not back. SO there might be a special system which survivor goes where cause obvuiously we see that Eddi and Helena go to Scorched and Mei goes directly to Abs.

brisk kernel
potent bone
#

Would of been nice to have a quick animation of your survivor being beamed to Ab at least

brisk kernel
#

exactly, scorched feels so empty and out of place compared to the rest of the story arks

gusty turret
#

Well idk if Mei did but Helena did and Rockwell came in after her

tender wasp
#

Pretty sure Mei did not really pick and as I know we don’t either.

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So for helena I would have to check. Can‘t remember.

stuck torrent
#

i wish they made hlna betray us at the end of gen 2

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would make sense since she makes fun of you when you die, and also would be more epic than having to fight just rockwell

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after all helena was good yes, but as hlna said she became someone new

gusty turret
gusty turret
stuck torrent
#

i mean they could just put our mind in a new body

gusty turret
#

I think its up to the player to decide but i feel like respawning being noncanon makes more sense

stuck torrent
#

i mean helena did make the respawn system on the arks

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and santiago did die multiple times

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so why can't we

gusty turret
#

He was cloned to work on the ship

stuck torrent
#

we can be cloned to stop rockwell

gusty turret
#

And respawning was done through the power of the obelisks which doesn't exist on the ship

#

Eh just doesn't fit in my mind

#

She would've cloned Gabriel then

stuck torrent
#

it would have been nice to have a double boss fight where you don't have a robot that makes fun of you all the time tell you what to do

gusty turret
#

But there's just no plot points to lead to her betraying us that'd be written like a middle schoolers essay where it's like AnD iN tHe EnD iT wAs AlL a DrEaM

stuck torrent
#

i mean why would she make fun of us then

gusty turret
#

Because that's what friends do?

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She doesn't even really make fun of us

stuck torrent
#

nah i don't like people calling me a disappointment when i die

gusty turret
#

Ngl i feel like thats deserved if you die on a mission to save a ship full of people from corruption after passing the simulation

stuck torrent
#

and also calling the thingy "stupid proof"

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i mean a simulation is a simulation, a ship corrupted by a god is something else

gusty turret
#

He is hardly a god he isn't even immortal and he was in the simulation where he could've done literally anything too so

stuck torrent
#

idk man, seems pretty strong to me

#

he's literally a whole biome

gusty turret
#

Going with it being the same survivor as on the Arks we've already killed him once, the king titan, the overseer, all the guardians and mini titans like she isn't exactly underestimating us by being disappointed in us for dying

stuck torrent
#

yeah to be fair he is the easiest boss i have ever fought

tender wasp
#

For me respawning does not exist in my Ark story and there is only one char brought back but with extreme effort and he pays a price for it.. also I have no home deus and also no Gen1/Genn2.. mine continues on earth..

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Also for me some kind of allways able to respawn takes away from the story cause no death really has a meaning.

gusty turret
#

The characters that died before us are the ones meant to have meaning

tender wasp
#

Actually we are not even a survivor.. we are idiots that die all the time and come back.

gusty turret
#

We learn and do it better

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That's why it's called Ark Survival Evolved

tender wasp
#

Still imo pretty idiotic cause if you come back several times you actually start do even not care if you die

gusty turret
#

You erase like the entire plot of Extinction by going with your story

tender wasp
#

For me something like that in Lore never does any story good. But only my opinion.

#

My story is anyways altered a lot. No homo deus in my story. No Homo Deus Helena that made any respawn system.

gusty turret
#

What about the overseers?

tender wasp
#

AIs

gusty turret
#

That's lame

tender wasp
#

Homo Deus are actually something similar.

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And I rather go with sitient AIs than uploaded superhumans with wierd powers.

south osprey
#

Does the implant in our left arm have a significance to the lore anymore? We know in Extinction's ending cutscene we get rid of it.
But in Gen...

tender wasp
#

ANd I had AIs set up allready when there was no extinction or Abs

gusty turret
#

I believe the implant is what gives you your engrams and memories and such

tender wasp
#

Funn fact, if you have your extinction survivor on Gen/Gen2 you don't have an implant in the Gen Maps

#

Yeah and I guess the implant is the storage device they save all your data on and stuff it in the body.

south osprey
#

So that's up to the player.

#

To be honest, I always though the implant was the only reason why we still respawn in gen.

gusty turret
#

Gen 1 is a simulation but gen 2 im not convinced you do

tender wasp
#

Also Gen 2 is more your conciousness in a new body (at least makes the most sense) if you decide to play the same survivor.

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But you also can decide to go there via spaceship you found on Arat prime or whatever you see fit.

gusty turret
#

Its entirely possible it's the same body since the Arks and the ship had the same database of humans but separate

south osprey
#

You can still use the same survivor from The Island - Extinction, no?

gusty turret
#

Yeah

tender wasp
gusty turret
#

So you're either uploaded via arat prime and wake up that way or you're the same conscience in new body

#

I wish wildcard would confirm like anything about gen 2

tender wasp
#

And our survivors have the advantaged to be the up to date version from the arks.

gusty turret
#

Like why did Gabe have a tek suit in the simulation but we couldn't đŸ‘č

tender wasp
gusty turret
#

New Santiago is probably gonna have all of his memories from all of his lives so that's very unlikely

south osprey
#

The ship may as well have the necessary technology that allows us use the same body.
I mean... It can sustain life and use hyperspace as a way to travel across the universe so...

tender wasp
#

They are two different chars.

gusty turret
#

We don't know if Ark 2 one will or not

tender wasp
#

He is a clone of the Gen 2 Santiago who has no memories of the Abs/Ext Santiago.

gusty turret
#

Helena could easily change that

south osprey
#

I hope that they won't pull some twists or anything with Ark 2 Santiago and suddenly he has memories of Ab/Ex.

tender wasp
#

Even different pesonality, cause latered and memories of the Element war Santiago altered/partly erased.

tender wasp
gusty turret
#

And it seems like something she would do so he knows everything and can help properly

tender wasp
gusty turret
#

Homodeus are real in game canon

tender wasp
#

She brought us to the ship and gave as H-LNA

gusty turret
#

She can be anywhere she wants

#

We have no clue

tender wasp
#

She even said in the trailer she can not follow were we go.

south osprey
#

Who knows what was Helena doing after she gave us HLN-A.

tender wasp
#

"Were you go I cannot follow" is what she says and the reason she gives us H-LNA to help.

gusty turret
tender wasp
#

WHy should she ? makes no sense.

south osprey
#

Why would she lie anyway?

gusty turret
#

Why couldn't she follow? That doesn't make any sense either

teal kelp
#

If she could follow where we went she prolly would

tender wasp
#

As it would make no sense now to give Vindiago all memories after setting him up as a totaly rewriten and new char in Gen 2.

tender wasp
gusty turret
#

There's no reason that makes sense as to why she couldn't

tender wasp
teal kelp
#

Being a homodeus is kinda sad

tender wasp
#

And even homo Deus are very powerfull I don't think they have unlimited power.

gusty turret
#

She's probably creating some alternate reality to be with her wife or something

tender wasp
#

Homo Deus simply vanish.

south osprey
#

I hardly remember what happens to the homo deus.
All i remember is that they eventually disappear for unknown reasons.

gusty turret
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Seeing Mei and Diana be happy lesbians in a mek together made her miss her wife so she created an alternate reality

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She's the only reason Diana comes back and saves Mei

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Cool thought

south osprey
#

Now that you mentioned Diana, How is Helena respawning her in Ext?
I thought the lore characters were unable to respawn unless they "ascend" or sort.

tender wasp
#

She is the first happy accident she is able to respawn but can't repeat it at that time.

gusty turret
#

She modified the experimental obelisks on Extinction like she did with the normal obelisks on the Arks

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And i wanna say she modified the obelisk to where forest wyverns spawn to help with the titan but i don't think that's backed up with lore at all

south osprey
#

Or allow us tame the 3 titans.

But it may as well be a simple game mechanic.

teal kelp
#

The tameable titan thing can make sense since the titans were made by human iirc (except the king)

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That's what I've heard

tender wasp
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There is nothing in the lore about her modifieing something to be able to tame titans.

south osprey
#

But King Titan has (well, h a d) control over them.
Only by destroying the nodes we manage to tame 'em.

gusty turret
#

Probably just us destroying the bad corruption on them and it pacifying them like the gasbag and stuff having good corruption

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She really came through making it to where we could solo pilot the megamek tho

teal kelp
#

Chat's dead, time for her funeral

gusty turret
#

ur mom

teal kelp
#

Cap

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Not my mom

gusty turret
#

Rockwell is your dad

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Rockwell is gae he gave Gabriel the good succ

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100% canon

teal kelp
#

Hol up

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My name is gabriel irl (i am serious tho)

gusty turret
#

Oooooooo

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Gabey and Rocky sittin in a tree k i s s i n g

teal kelp
#

Nononono

gusty turret
#

Its canon

teal kelp
#

Explain how it's canon

gusty turret
#

Because the last note in the storyline

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Your last note "as something crawled up my back and attached itself to my head.

I felt my will to resist being drained away, and fell to my knees as the entirety of our environment roared in triumph."

bronze turtle
#

Its the noglin but ok

gusty turret
#

Shut

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Rockwell gave good succ

bronze turtle
#

And you successfully made me think that note is cursed

gusty turret
#

You're welcome

bronze turtle
gusty turret
bronze turtle
#

People already ship rockwell with nerva now gabriel...

south osprey
#

Oh boy

bronze turtle
#

Ah f*ck, i can't believe you done this

gusty turret
lyric tendon
#

But Nerva is cooked with the side of rice now so...

gusty turret
#

Ark after Dark

bronze turtle
south osprey
#

A gun emote would be extremely welcomed for stuff like this.

bronze turtle
#

Ha! No

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I mean you do have this

south osprey
#

I guess that works.

bronze turtle
#

I love this emojis

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...a little too much maybe

quick wraith
#

Can someone explain me the ending on aberration ? What is that place? (In the cutsceen after the ascention)

bitter barn
#

Extinction

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near the green obelisk

lethal vine
#

Otterflex alot

bitter barn
ornate hull
#

👗

plain plover
#

it isn't actually a place on the map, but it is supposed to be extinction. I wish we got volcanic wasteland instead of dusty wasteland.

bronze turtle
#

DodoPanic 🍮 evil_g

bronze turtle
#

All redish and weird

versed torrent
bold dove
#

They don't own us anything.

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You've bought the product with the undermined knowledge that it would be never added.

ornate hull
#

Just to make sure scorched was made because a law suit right?

teal kelp
#

Pretty sure yes

stuck torrent
#

wait what

ornate hull
#

Ya you didnt know that

bold dove
bold dove
# stuck torrent wait what

Scorched Earth was only made to pay off a petty lawsuit they got.
It's the reason why they're bought out by Snailgames.

inland apex
#

have you guys ever noticed that element has become more and more common during the Rockwell storyline first being able to make on aberration then being able to buy/farm it on gen1 and gen2. Tek becomes more common and more widely used during the Rockwell story arc. So Im starting to think that after the end of gen2 the survivor becomes corrupted. The player has been exposed to tek and even been in the genesis simulation which we know is being corrupted by Rockwell. We even start with a tek suit at the start of gen2 ensuring we will be exposed to element. During the Rockwell Prime boss Rockwell offers you multiple chances to "grovel" and "beg for mercy." this is very uncharacteristic of him as during the original Rockwell and especially the master controller boss fight its very clear he just wants to kill you. And he killed the entire crew of the ship without mercy. Why the sudden change of heart now? I think its because he knows you will soon be corrupted. Finally after beating alpha rockwell prime we get a corrupted survivor skin...

bold dove
#

You have to be exposed to "corrupted" element to get infected.
And the only reason why Rockwell mutated was cause he injected element directly into his veins.

rain dock
#

Lol

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Just normal element

bold dove
#

And the "corrupted survivors" that where their, where genetically made 'by' Rockwell. Not element.
Listen to his lines.

inland apex
#

The original element that infected rockwell wasnt mentioned as corrupted tho and I dont mean that it will cause the survivor to mutate like him I just mean that it will cause him to go crazy

bold dove
inland apex
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yes but he did that because he became unnaturally fascinated with it after being exposed to it after a while

bold dove
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Actually, it was 'before'

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He's been unnaturally fascinated with the obelisks since day-one. Which are element based technology.
And it only strengthened this once he discovered a Artifact.

rain dock
#

It wasn't corrupted though

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Element causes the corruption

bold dove
#

So, no.
He's been a egotistical nutter since day-one.

ornate hull
#

Hey
He prefers egotistical nutter

inland apex
#

well the player also discovers artifacts and the loading screen mentions feeling the obelisks power in your bones

ornate hull
#

I'm fairly certain that's because the ran out of ideas for tips on the loading screen

bold dove
inland apex
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how do we know anything about the survivors willpower at all how do we know element can only effect weak willed people

bold dove
ornate hull
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Your new to the ark lore ain't ya @inland apex

bold dove
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Aaaand, that's when i'm done.

inland apex
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I mean I dont see any evidence :/

ornate hull
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Your not digging deep enough

inland apex
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sure we ascended but so did rockwell and lets not forget element effected the ENTIRE earth

ornate hull
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Deeper

stuck torrent
#

oof

ornate hull
#

Me loading into a server were I have a rex army and caped tek

Ark: did you know that scorpions have tranquilizing poison dont get knocked out.

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The one thing I want them to change in the game is to revamp the tips on the loading screen

plain plover
#

the entire menu needs a revamp

ornate hull
#

Ya

plain plover
#

some new loading tips I can think of is: the lower amount of something's max health it has, the longer it takes for its stamina to recover

ornate hull
#

Honestly I was more thinking stuff related to the dlcs like you cant knock out a wyvern you have to steal its egg

plain plover
#

who would want to hit a kairuku with a club? I'm sure they don't give valuable materials, and who would want to hit something that cute?

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HLN-A can scan wild and your tamed creatures to reveal their stats while in the Genesis simulation and ship

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ghille doesn't just lower wild creatures detection radius of you, it also makes you hard to spot if you know where to camouflage. you haven't spotted me yet

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a full set of cloth clothing gives you 50% damage reduction, armor is very important on the ARK!

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these obelisks hum with power, it makes you wonder if you can wield the technology they're made out of...

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a bred creature has a chance of getting a mutation, which gives it 2 more levels in a random stat at birth, and a random color!

brisk kernel
# bold dove Not really.

at the end of the day i supported the game before scorched earths release, not after. I bought the scorched dlc with the knowledge that it would be a full and complete story ark, which at this point in time it isnt.

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also im glad ark is moving away from tek based story. The primitive aspect was always my favorite

south osprey
gusty turret
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Ngl Rockwell probably does have quite the willpower since he went to the tek cave because Helena was in danger and went to Scorched after her

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Idk why Vindiago didn't finish the titans, it was for family so

bold dove
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He literally stated he didn't know what he was doing. And accidentally picked a Desert ARK.

tropic ice
#

does anyone know what rockwell's garden was supposed to be?

south osprey
#

I can't blame Rockwell for hating how harsh Scorched Earth was.

gusty turret
#

Oh so he lied to Helena

bold dove
crude charm
gusty turret
#

Helenas note said he was worried because he heard Nerva kidnapped her and came to negotiate her release

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How rude

fallow sapphire
#

Yes we know what happened
 I mean he even had to lie about his entry, saying that you transfer between not only space but time aswell just to get around the fact that he got to scorched first

gusty turret
#

Transfer through deez nuts

fallow sapphire
tropic ice
fallow sapphire
#

Basically the same as the eden ring I assume

tropic ice
#

ah

gusty turret
#

Why was there no eco diversity around the entire ring đŸ‘č

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They should've had like deserts and tundras and all kinds if stuff around the ring to cultivate a better environment

bold dove
#

There's mini-redwood biomes near the bottom corners of the eden-ring. So that could be a indicator that there 'could' be a bigger redwoods biome.

whole spire
#

The rockwell on Genesis 2 is really the easy rockwell fight

gusty turret
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How could we not see it if it was elsewhere on the ring that we could like look up and see

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Ngl the garden seems more like it would've been a desert originally to me

bold dove
gusty turret
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If you squinted

bold dove
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No, no you can't.
Even if you squint.

south osprey
#

There's likely a little of every single biomes on the Eden Ring, but impossible to see with a normal eye through the rings.

gusty turret
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But like the garden just seems a lot more deserty, that's where the velos are, there's a bunch of bugs and stuff there like on Scorched, just seems fitting

fallow sapphire
#

its possible, but element ravaging a biome tends to do that, just look at Extinction

gusty turret
#

Extinction is a wasteland not quite a desert

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Im not sure if there's a difference but there probably is one

fallow sapphire
#

exactly, a wasteland. Now put a mind behind the destruction and he could destroy the place easily and create his "garden"

ornate hull
gusty turret
#

So Extinction is a desert by definition

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Yet they call it a wasteland with location names

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Hey guys lets design a wyvern then call it a wyrm

bold dove
#

A wasteland is a place without any resources that anything can use.
A desert is a barren region, with a lack of plants and animals.
Hell, Antarctica counts as a 'desert'

rigid palm
bold dove
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That's why it's called a "desert"
It's "deserted" of life.

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You can even google it.

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"A desert is a barren area of landscape where little precipitation occurs and, consequently, living conditions are hostile for plant and animal life. The lack of vegetation exposes the unprotected surface of the ground to the processes of denudation." -Wikipedia

ornate hull
bold dove
plain plover
#

in Syntac's Rockwell prime fight video he made today, he calls out something that I overlooked

stuck torrent
#

his toes?

plain plover
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"You've fought him Once before in the simulation, now you have something solid to hit"

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I already saw his toes I know he was sitting in his fox news chair like any true blooded american

stuck torrent
#

i mean hlna wasn't with us when we defeated the first rockwell

plain plover
#

give me a sec I'll explain

stuck torrent
#

though it probably means we aren't the same survivor

plain plover
#

so, we know that HLN-A wasn't with us when we beat Rockwell in aberration

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but Helena calls it out and thanks us for putting him out of his missery

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and apparently, HLN-A has a copy of all of Helena's memories.

stuck torrent
plain plover
#

so, that rules out HLN-A not knowing we're the Survivor who saved Earth

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that only means

stuck torrent
#

we're not the same

plain plover
#

Holy shit the first Rockwell was an imposter

stuck torrent
#

wait what

plain plover
#

just kidding

#

yep, that settles with the Broken logic of the Gen 2 voice lines, we aren't the ones who saved the world.

rigid palm
#

Wait can you explain this in simpler terms?

#

My two brain cells want to understand but simply cant

plain plover
#

so, HLN-A accidentally revealed we aren't the survivor who saved the world with that voice line

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you might chock it up to her not knowing we did it, but that got ruled out becuase Helena gave a full copy of her memories to HLN-A when she was created

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and in a one who waits note Helena acknowledges we killed Rockwell

bold dove
plain plover
#

yeah, but they also overlooked giving an actual reason

bold dove
#

I think it's more fun to let the 'player' decide then forcing it.

rigid palm
#

So by her saying we fought him once, but not twice, this means we arent the survivor that killed the king titan and the other bosses?

plain plover
#

yep

bold dove
#

She also said "we" fought you twice. Indicating she's including herself.
Last time i checked. She wasn't with us in the King Titan fight.

plain plover
#

if you want to belive that then you are acknowledging the broken status of Genesis's lore

rigid palm
#

I mean she did specifically say in the simulation she might not have cared about the old tentacle man

bold dove
rigid palm
#

I mean new tentacles are all the rave, old tentacles are trash

bold dove
#

Cause literally every form of media that tries to form a universe has some plotholes.

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It becomes too big for something small to be overlooked.

plain plover
#

then why was island through extinction literally perfect

bold dove
#

That's a 'you' opinion.

#

Also, you kind of worship Marc.

plain plover
#

I like my stories logical

bold dove
#

Each of their own.
But don't try to say that the original story is better when there's people that like both.

rigid palm
#

They said the original story is perfect, not “better”

plain plover
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I think they're both impactful in the stories they tell, but it's un-deniable that the soskin saga is just better written

bold dove
#

I 'hate' the Bethesda writing in their Fallout games.
But doesn't mean other people don't.
Even though they have so much plotholes, or retcon some of the previous games. Doesn't mean it's "bad" or "better"
To each of their own.

bold dove
plain plover
#

really? I thought it was the opposite way around

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like Santiago's notes were mostly world development

tender wasp
#

Genesis lore has a lot of plot wholes and some stuff they kept open for the player to decide. But Ark lore allways had/has a bunch of plot holes anyways.

bold dove
#

Marc's writing more focused on the mysteries of the ARK's, and why Earth is all fucked up.
I love Mei-Yin, and Helena and all. But in the notes, it feels like to 'me' their one dimensinal.
Mei-Yin is the badass. No questions ask.
Helena is the protagonist smart girl. No questions ask.
Rockwell.....actually he has some heavy character growth in the notes.

plain plover
#

it's just this is the first time I've been asked the answer a question I'm not going to get the answer too in a future installment.

bold dove
#

Which is what i'm hoping for in the animated series, is that they're expanded upon

bold dove
tender wasp
# plain plover like Santiago's notes were mostly world development

Actually Santiagos notes in Gen 2 are there to show, that he is not Abs/Ext Santiago and besides beeing a clone of the same base Santiago (the one from the Element war) still is a totaly different person from the original and the Abs/Ext Santiago cause partly altered, missing/different memoies from the original war past. Only thing thy actually share is some DNA.

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I guess it is like this moral thing "Clones are not the same even when made from the same DNA:"

plain plover
#

didn't they reveal origins of the Homo Deus, the cloning technology, simulations, and the original conceptions of the ARKs and their environments.

rigid palm
#

Well personality is based on experiences

tender wasp
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Or a siimple "We needed to rewrite Santiago to fit him Vinnie and were to lazy to make a new char for whatever reason."

bold dove
#

For example. In Fallout, it never answers who fired the 'first' nukes.
Was it China, or America?
And then Fallout 3 added a new question of "who" started the Great-War?
Cause Bethesda thought "LeT's AdD aLiEnS" and now they're a candidate for the Great-War starting.

stuck torrent
#

i wonder what they'll do with rockwell in the animated series

rigid palm
#

You could have the genetically same person born as a baby right after they die for 100 cycles and they would each be a different person

plain plover
#

yeah I know about the vinny D and how they had to re-write his character and just outright forgot his last name

stuck torrent
#

after all we aren't there to kill him, so will he just be in the element

plain plover
tender wasp
# rigid palm Well personality is based on experiences

both had the same experience up to when they get cloned again. Only that the Gen 2 one got some of his memories erased, even altered I guess and they actually could have taken a new character instead. Would have been easier and not made an more interessting char totaly boring.

plain plover
#

"you don't always need to add new traits to make a new personality"

tender wasp
plain plover
#

he's like a producer on it or something... let's hope Noonan can cover

tender wasp
bold dove
tender wasp
#

He is an executive producer in series and game.

plain plover
#

videogames are entertainment

bitter barn
plain plover
#

there is also the control center infront of it, placing it in a place that would be the sunken forest if it wasn't, sunken

astral cedar
#

Santiago being played by vin diesel just dose not fit

south osprey
#

Eh, personally I don't mind.
Cloned Santiago likely was altered as a whole.

lyric tendon
brisk kernel
#

the fact that vin diesel is working on ark 2 proves this is the wrong timeline.

gusty turret
#

The TVA is gonna show up and exterminate us for being in the wrong timeline đŸ‘č

#

I think it's more likely than not Nida died trying to escape Rockwells chamber

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Why else wouldn't she have finished the ring separation sequence if she was right there?

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There's also a possibility in my mind Mei and Diana died after transferring from Arat Prime but that just happens in the background, unless the meat puppets are symbolizing the four master AIs from the simulation he consumed

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Four main characters mind controlled then being made into mini corruptions with element to protect their god

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Ngl i enjoy the freedom to decide with the plotholes gen 2 leaves laying around

glass lichen
#

@rigid palm They would each be different, but would all probably have very similar personalities - look at the studies of identical twins that get separated at birth, even with very different home lives they usually end up behaving in very similar ways.

gusty turret
#

There's a difference between twins irl and clones in a video game đŸ€š

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Ship Santiago is extremely different than the veteran Santiago and the Ark Santiago, he learned he was a clone and how he used to make weapons that destroyed the Earth and regrets it deeply, he wanted to help with the mess he caused aka why he made stryders

balmy brook
queen crystal
#

Do you guys think our survivor will return in Ark2? Or perhaps a cameo or easter egg?

fallow sapphire
lost lichen
#

i bet even if you were ever allowed to import it, you would lose it after a crash or for a bug.

gusty turret
#

Doubt it'll be an import it'll just be canonically the same guy

fallow sapphire
#

yeah no, import would not be a thing

gusty turret
#

Why don't you sk8

fallow sapphire
#

Cause i hate skating

gusty turret
#

Well i hate you

fallow sapphire
#

Ok

gusty turret
#

Yep

ornate hull
#

Do you hate međŸ„ș

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@fallow sapphire

bitter barn
bronze turtle
#

whats the lore on the island ending? its rly cool but idk what it means

ornate hull
#

You ascend to scorched earth

bronze turtle
#

ok

#

u spawn back on se? or what hapens if u go back to ur island save?

ornate hull
#

In lore ascension is a one way thing transfering isnt canon

teal kelp
#

Imagine if it was

bronze turtle
#

So ark 2 will be earth with all the arks that have fallen to earth?

bitter ravine
#

no ark 2 is set on a different planet i think

bronze turtle
#

But then what is it that like helena says about the arks coming back home or something like that

bitter ravine
#

genesis is set over 1000 years after extinction

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the life boat is searching for a habitable planet to send the simulation survivors to

gusty turret
#

I don't think that time difference is true

bronze turtle
#

Ohhh k

bitter ravine
#

well its set a long time after extinction

bronze turtle
#

But what about the arks?

gusty turret
#

Still maybe not, from what i can tell it takes place a few months at most after extinction

bitter ravine
#

the arks landed on earth

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the life boat has been searching for a planet to land on since the arks were sent up from earth

bronze turtle
#

Will we ever see earth? Isnt it ark 2

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Life boat? Im new to lore xD

bitter ravine
#

the life boat is the genesis ship

gusty turret
#

It's not Ark 2 The next game will be a completely new planet

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That we see in the end of genesis 2

bronze turtle
#

And what abou earth and the arks

gusty turret
#

What do you mean what about them?

#

The Arks landed and reseeded the Earth that's like the end up that

bitter ravine
#

that was just left behind after the writer for Helena's story left wildcard

bronze turtle
#

Ohhh k

bitter ravine
#

a new writer came up with genesis

bronze turtle
#

Nice

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The overseer arena is so nice, it shows how everything on the island is made

tender wasp
bitter ravine
#

oh ok like 10 years then

bronze turtle
#

Will ark 2 have dlcs?

bitter ravine
#

i doubt it but maybe

tender wasp
#

about 3000 days is the time Rockwell was on the ship and he went there obviously pretty close after Abs went down on earth. What happend to earth and what its state is now is up to us and yeah the original writer left with extinction and Gen is not his doing anymore.

#

I think if Ark 2 will have DLCs will depend on how succesfull it will be.

gusty turret
tender wasp
#

It is only about 10 years which is not very long considering he first took over the simulation (how I guess) and then slowly started to corrupt the ring and part of te survivors. Nida even states it took some time until they found out something was wrong with the ring and then they started to seal it off. WHat Rockwell did did not come very fast.

gusty turret
#

I guess but seems more likely it was 5 years at the most, seems to me like he would've got everything in 10 years

tender wasp
south osprey
#

I expected a wayyyy shorter time gap, like max 5 years.

urban stone
#

Isn’t it state that the ship has been traveling for centuries?..

gusty turret
#

Yeah but that has no relevance in our arrival date

gusty turret
radiant prism
#

HLNA has a sexy voice

#

And I ain’t wrong

teal kelp
#

(Spoilers) remember, ||she died||

golden chasm
#

Selling alpha val small ps4

fallow sapphire
fallow sapphire
gusty turret
#

So that leaves the question did HLNA exist before Helena gave her to us? Or were we actually in the simulation that long?

lyric tendon
#

basically all what we did in the ARKs is just Helena (aka The One Who Waits) makes us re-live her lives when she was a human hence the ARKs are very specific and didn't count the other ARKs like the free map ones, that is also why we are specifically chosen among the millions of uncorrupted people sleeping in pods

that's also explains the "Magmasaur in Sourched" and random TEK notes in the Island

for the authors the ARKs are real but for us, the survivors the ARKs are part of the Gen Sim added by HLN-A, prepping us to face Rockwell

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at least that's my hunch

rigid palm
#

Do the other survivors still in the simulation also have hlna with them?

#

Cause if so that means:

  1. There are multiple hlnas, or she can split herself into multiple hlnas
  2. I feel suddenly less special
urban stone
#

I mean it is a simulation, I don’t see why not she wouldn’t be able to be there for other survivors as well at the same time. Also would be a reason as to how she knows what the other survivors are doing? Some die, etc?

rigid palm
#

But what about if they wake up? Do they just not have hlna or can she split her essence into multiple manifestations?

urban stone
#

I mean, if they wake up from the simulation like our character does, then I guess they would just experience what we do?

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