maybe some of you can give me an answer?
#lore-nerdz
amber junco
fallow sapphire
you spawn with an implant cause you are a clone
gusty turret
The brood mother is kinda like shelob from lotr
rigid palm
The implant stores all of your engramatic information
It basically has the data someone could use to clone you
fair halo
🤓
bold dove
You're born with it. 👀
amber junco
how did i place it there?
bold dove
how did i place it there?
You didn't
We're clones. You where borned/created with them.
amber junco
why is it dinosaurs then? and not normal animals?
inner jay
Because Dinosaurs are cooler.
bold dove
why is it dinosaurs then? and not normal animals?
Cause dinosaurs are more adaptable then modern animals
They evolved in a rough era. Unlike predators like lions.
rigid palm
||Rockwell died when the survivor beat him in gen 2, but he was literally part of the ship so the whole garden biome detached from the rest of the ship and exploded in space||
fallow sapphire
||Rockwell died when the survivor beat him in gen 2, but he was literally part o...
||the eden separated and left, the garden stayed on the ship so the ship and garden blew||
rigid palm
Oh sorry, im kinda bad at remembering lore stuff
fallow sapphire
all good, just correcting
bronze turtle
Anyone want Play Fibercraft on Ps4?
fallow sapphire
Anyone want Play Fibercraft on Ps4?
this is a lore channel, head to one of the recruitment channels
maiden gust
Bro element is the reason the earth got fucked and they had to make the arks
rigid palm
Honestly its gonna be either completely about element like Ark 1 or have nothing to do with it (most likely)
crude charm
We're not going to talk about the orcs in the ark 2 trailer now that we're on the topic of ark 2?
ornate hull
No
crude charm
Ok
fallow sapphire
whats there to talk about them
iron hound
But Rockwell can be in some parts of Eden's ring, not in the biome itself but ventilations or systems that he started to corrupt
Would be cool to have an HLNA-like but with rockwell personality, RKW-L. He could taunt us and tell some jokes
placid flint
Theoretically there is an uncorrupted rockwell on the ship right? since it has all the personality engrams the ARK's had
ornate hull
Ya but probably just only his mind in their system not as a clone
gusty turret
Im waiting on Mei and Diana to show up
lyric tendon
Cause dinosaurs are more adaptable then modern animals
With the exception being Extinction exclusives
bold dove
That's only cause of element helping.
gusty turret
There probably are Arks with modern animals somewhere right?
lyric tendon
And ooh otters... Dont forget otters
lyric tendon
Dire wolves and dire bears are also extinct, they share the same era as terror birds
lyric tendon
"big foot" is just a genetic mod from an extinct gorilla
gusty turret
Shhh bigfoot
lyric tendon
🗞️
gusty turret
Mooses
lyric tendon
Also extinct
gusty turret
Tell that to Canada
lyric tendon
The moose in ARK is an extinct kind of moose
iron hound
Coelacanth
gusty turret
Salmon
lyric tendon
Hyenodons are extinct and never considered "hyenas"
Equus is not equal to modern horse
gusty turret
Too bad for you
lyric tendon
No, too bad for you
Science doesnt care about your feelings and beliefs
iron hound
Megalodon is extinct
lyric tendon
Leed is not even a whale
lyric tendon
According to the game, they are
In the words of Helena Walker
"it's my discovery, deal with it"
gusty turret
Helena is dead she can suck my balls
lyric tendon
Kinky
lyric tendon
Wikipedia
gusty turret
Just because we've never seen one doesn't mean its extinct
We still haven't explored most of the Ocean
iron hound
True
lyric tendon
And just because we never seen one of them out there, doesnt mean they are already exists
iron hound
Angler fish is still alive tho
lyric tendon
Tuso is not one of them
gusty turret
You don't know that
lyric tendon
You dont know they are alive either
gusty turret
Too bad
lyric tendon
Too bad for you too
gusty turret
Too bad for your 20k hp shadowmane pop
lyric tendon
Idc
gusty turret
Me neither
lyric tendon
You feel like you care lol
So too bad
gusty turret
You feel like i care so too bad
dusky agate
if i'm right theres 3 reason why megalodon is done and gone, 1st is the oxygen level in the ocean, that has greatly reduced, so for a big predator it would be very hard to continue living as active carnivore, 2nd megalodons got fucked over by regular sharks, cause they were more efficient, and could prey on smaller creature with greater effect, 3rd megalodon was not a deep sea creature, so he is not down there either, otherwise he's body would grumple and get pressed the the pressure, megalodons dead people, deal with it, much like most of prehistorical creature, and if he were to get reanimated and thrown into modern world, he would not succeed, and would go instinct again, much like how the T-rex would, or even the sabertooths
*i'm right
dusky agate
theres a modded map for it
dusky agate
its called sunken world, its pretty fucking cool, but its still a wip if think
gusty turret
Im on PS4 so
lyric tendon
Too bad
dusky agate
Too bad
gusty turret
Too bad for you
crude charm
Nothing just a few spawn islands and the rest is water
Now where have I seen this idea before?
gusty turret
Good question
crude charm
Can't put my mind on it
gusty turret
It'd probably have a lot of ship building
azure ferry
It'd probably have a lot of ship building
too bad
gusty turret
Too bad for you
azure ferry
too bad
white thistle
I would honestly pay for a all water map which a bunch of underwater dinos to replace similar roles that example a rex would have. Making a unique perspective on top of a fun pvp map
Opposite of scorched
lyric tendon
I would honestly pay for a all water map which a bunch of underwater dinos to re...
"moist earth"
arctic bison
oh no, anything but that name
arctic bison
Moist Earth
bronze oasis
you should all listen to "journeys end" the final theme ark will ever get
teal kelp
Y mean ark 1 will ever get
radiant prism
You know, when i first heard mei yin had lots of creatures i was skeptical on who would tame that many dinos
And now here i am with 10 snow owls
lyric tendon
You know, when i first heard mei yin had lots of creatures i was skeptical on wh...
experienced solos can do just that... except rockdrakes, she forcetamed it
bronze turtle
Now where have I seen this idea before?
might as well add a new creature called the Ghost Dodoviathan
lapis cloak
might as well add a new creature called the Ghost Dodoviathan
mmmmm subarktica
lapis cloak
Would be cool to have an HLNA-like but with rockwell personality, RKW-L. He coul...
i would pay the developers to have this put in
gusty turret
Who would win the survivor or the Doom Slayer
bronze turtle
mmmmm subarktica
YES
bold dove
Who would win the survivor or the Doom Slayer
DOOM-Slayer. For the fact that he's canonically a literal demigod.
gusty turret
Survivor has killed multiple gods tho
bold dove
Like who?
gusty turret
Rockwell for one
bold dove
Rockwell isn't a god.
gusty turret
The overseer
gusty turret
They are capable of creating and destroying whatever they like id say thats a god
bold dove
Again. That's the barebone definition of a "god"
The slayer has fought literal gods. Like the devil himself.
gusty turret
I think Minecraft steve could kill him too
bold dove
He's actually the one that figured out 'how' to kill the dark-lord. Being that the Slayer is actually part god. And only another god can kill a god, in the DOOM Universe.
gusty turret
Minecraft steve would like one punch doom slayer
If block man could do it so could survivor
bold dove
Aaand, that's when this discussion is over.
bold dove
You can't take anything serious in Minecraft. When the game doesn't even have a world to develop. 
There's nothing to take into context for the actual strength.
Cause he can carry all of this shit. And yet still needs a sword to kill a dragon.
gusty turret
The dragon is just that much stronger than the doom slayer
It's like how Shaggy only uses 0.0000000002% of his power at all times
Steve could but doesn't wanna break the space time continuum
bold dove
Thought this was gonna be a actual serious discussion.
Though yet again. You have surprised me. 🤣
gusty turret
It is a serious discussion
bold dove
No.
No it's not.
gusty turret
You're just mad Shaggy could one shot the Doomslayer
Then the Kung Fu Panda
Dont even get me started with him
Mr Rogers of course gets the final blow in the battle
ornate hull
Shaggy would fucking get his ass kicked XD
red mist
imagine trying to have a normal or sensible discussion, i just pull old memes and popular games from the depths of the internet so that nobody cares enough to stop me
gusty turret
And that's how you win a debate
gusty turret
Too bad
fallow sapphire
Simple, its a place with cool things
dense ice
Do we have reason to believe it was the launch site of the Genesis Project?
Colony Ship, I mean
fallow sapphire
Im not sure, as its not marcs story anymore it could be or maybe isnt
We know it has a link to the ship, but thats the closest we have to it being related to the colony ship
honestly from the sounds of it, it was being worked on in orbit, not on earth
whether the main section of the ship was built on the surface or not Santiagos notes start with it in orbit
plain plover
yes, as we found out it was something put together in orbit, I still don't understand how they hid it from the public.
it seems at the time of Santiago 2.0, Transmitter Technology had not been developed to the extent it is used in the ARKs and Genesis Ship
huh, that's weird, Santiago knew how to make Teleportation Technology in his 20s
fallow sapphire
yes, as we found out it was something put together in orbit, I still don't under...
Cloaking, covering it up by calling it a satellite or something, who knows
plain plover
Teleportation never gets brought up in his notes, even though half the things ARK Santiago did involved it
fallow sapphire
Might have been so common at the time it didnt matter much
plain plover
it's specifically mentioned he took a "Plane" too the Farm
which I'm guessing is a Space Ship
fallow sapphire
Well i think it said take a plane to a shuttle to get up there
plain plover
so no teleporation
fallow sapphire
Long range teleportation might not have been invented or possible yet
plain plover
still ARK Santiago was able to make a teleporter to get to the Earth's surface
fallow sapphire
with the power of the arks, not just normal power
plain plover
oh boy, we're talking power now
fallow sapphire
yeah dont feel this is my area of expertise
dense ice
oh boy, we're talking power now
So uh
Santiago 2 was in China actually
I forget the name of the city
he took a plane to another location on Earth, which he then took a space shuttle from to get to the farm
Hopefully that clears that up, he didnt literally fly a plane into space
But yea he didnt teleport there
fallow sapphire
i did state he used a shuttle... well said i believed i remembered he did
plain plover
well, I assume that the "Planes" in that time period are advanced enough to go faster than super sonic and carry passengers. but still, yeah.
plain plover
Arat Prime seems to be the Federation Capital
plain plover
it was the main base of operations for the ship, and had the super transmitter that allowed Helena (Or HLN-A) to get onto the Genesis ship
dense ice
Wish we knew more about it
Yep, they used superluminal space travel
Faster than the speed of light
crazy shit, sounds so cool p_p
at least that's what Nida said -- so I'm going with her "superluminal" thing
Next video coming out covers Rockwell, HLN-A, and the survivor
All about how they got on the ship
plain plover
just remember, there is no clear answer about how the survivor or Rockwell got onto the ship.
dense ice
No clear answer, but a likely one
fallow sapphire
im still confused on how long everything takes place... cause HLN-A says in her extinction notes the Helenas friends beamed her into the simulation, which is i assume when she made HLN-A, but at the same time why would she then? And another note of hers from extinction says we are only a few years behind the original survivors
dense ice
It's all we have to go off of
plain plover
oh, and what is your explanation for how the survivor got onto the ship?
Becuase it's kind of a different story them Rockwell or Helena
dense ice
We could have gone to arat prime, basically
for whatever reason
It's not impossible to assume.
plain plover
so, for the survivor, there is an "Implied answer"
dense ice
For both the survivor and rockwell there is an implied answer yea
I never said there is a concrete answer.
gusty turret
How did we get to Arat prime before Mei and Diana would have in the megamek
dense ice
I think the survivor (if the player chooses) as well as Rockwell, got onto the ship the same way Helena did.
We could assume that she was beamed into the genesis engine, at which point she created HLN-A within it, and then faded away? Or she wasn't able to reach it entirely, but HLN-A was
Strangely, Rockwell made it completely as we know, and the survivor (could have)
I think the survivor is like many others have said, completely up to the player.
We can choose whether it was our survivor back on Extinction, that for some reason travelled across the planet to Arat Prime, OR we could choose it to be a new character on gen 2 that was there all along
That's what
What's kinda neat about how they designed the character's own lore. It's up to the player, and both scenarios technically work.
plain plover
The answer the notes imply is, That we are not actually the Survivor who saved the world, and we are at the same time. We are a clone of them, possesing the memories we had of saving Earth, or we could be someone new. The Survivor who saved Earth got to enjoy their happy ending, and now this new survivor has to forge their own. When Gabriel did not succeed in Saving the ship, Helena chose us to guide through the simulation we were locked into.
gusty turret
Why wouldn't she try Nida then?
plain plover
what do you mean?
fallow sapphire
nida was part of the crew, not in the simulation
plain plover
Gabriel was supposed help Nida
oh, and It's actually possible we may see Nida in ARK 2 as she never actually dies
or at least we never hear of her dying
gusty turret
She wasn't in the simulation but she was very capable of surviving she would've been a good choice to try with
fallow sapphire
would be cool to see a return on a new character
gusty turret
We also never hear of Mei and Diana dying i want them back
plain plover
something that could happen is they return as new clones in ARK 2
gusty turret
Or somehow they come through Arat prime
fallow sapphire
they are already bringing back santiago, i really dont care for more older characters to be brought back
gusty turret
But Mei and Diana finally got to be happy lesbians together at the end they can't kill the romance off
plain plover
acording to mr jermy it's not the last time we'll hear Of Mei or Diana
fallow sapphire
nope
gusty turret
Well kinda
dense ice
Why do you say that?
plain plover
He was woken up by HLN-A
plain plover
She guided him to a tek suit
fallow sapphire
he was woken by rockwell i thought
gusty turret
He chose Rockwell when he woke up but then changed to HLNA
HLNA and Rockwell both called for him when he woke up and he chose Rockwell
dense ice
Okay cool
plain plover
It seems HLN-A's body is the standard "Holographic Guide" that survivors got in the simulation
as a Nida Note also shows a HLN-A cartoon figure before she meets her
gusty turret
I feel so bad for Gabe
gusty turret
Im sure he didn't want his life force to be sucked out by Rockwell tho
Rockwell gave Gabe the good succ
plain plover
typical boss
dense ice
You know whats weird is that a cartoon depiction of HLN-A is shown in Nida Note #4, before she even finds HLN-A / transhuman evidence in the system.
plain plover
that's what I was talking about
ornate hull
So what happend at the end of gabe's notes I read it and it made no sence to me
plain plover
HLN-A's body isn't a unique model
fallow sapphire
So what happend at the end of gabe's notes I read it and it made no sence to me
he got noglined
dense ice
I wonder if that was a mistake on WC's part, or if HLN-A's design was just slightly different for Helena, and she based it off of what was already in the genesis engine
plain plover
it's just what she chose to posses
dense ice
Yeah that would explain it.
gusty turret
So what happend at the end of gabe's notes I read it and it made no sence to me
He dies and he gives Nida an element dagger and she runs off hopefully surviving
ornate hull
You know whats weird is that a cartoon depiction of HLN-A is shown in Nida Note ...
Cup head hlna
gusty turret
After they fall into Rockwell's chamber
plain plover
like how the one who waits didn't actually have a corporeal form, they chose to be the vein thing with Helena's Head
they could've been a dodo
gusty turret
Was the one who waits not Helena?
plain plover
they are
dense ice
they could've been a dodo
Perhaps.
gusty turret
Also how tf did the Arks know to come back home did Helena do that too?
plain plover
I'm sure someone can mod it to be the inflatable rex costume
fallow sapphire
holup i was re-reading gabes first note, he had fed tek armor in the simulation.... WHY DIDNT WE GET THAT
plain plover
did he?
gusty turret
I don't remember that
dense ice
Also how tf did the Arks know to come back home did Helena do that too?
There's a video some guy made on it
plain plover
I thought he was already out?
dense ice
like uh... the ARKS vs the colony ship or something
fallow sapphire
"The voice of my deliverer returned then, to guide me to a set of the same magical armor I'd worn in the afterlife."
dense ice
fallow sapphire
afterlife being the simulation
plain plover
oh, huh
they didn't really have to include that line, it will amount to nothing but still, WHY?
I have that same question for a lot of other notes
fallow sapphire
also it was Rockwell who released and led him to the armor
gusty turret
I assume it was much different before Rockwell tampered with it so others could've used the suit
plain plover
check #28 or something
there is a seperate recounting of his wake up
"Now go help her"
gusty turret
Wasn't that after he was plugged back in by Nida?
Then he came back out and started vomiting all over the place
plain plover
Life returned to me with a shrill brightness.
Weakly but with increasing desperation, I pulled out the tubes choking my airway.
I was drowning in viscous plasma, and then a lid opened so that I fell from my metal cocoon, blinded in the unaccustomed glare.
A diamond protruded from the flesh of my forearm.
I didn't understand-a moment ago I'd been in an afterworld populated by monsters.
Now I was in some metal nursery of cocoons like my own.
I wiped at the glass of one after another, to see people suspended in fluid and shot through with tubes and wires.
What was this place, and how did I come to be here?
Then there was a voice in my head, guiding me to a suit of supernatural armor.
I put it on, and the voice said, "Go now and find her."
ornate hull
||suprise I made my own people||
plain plover
my favorite line
ornate hull
Sence the dlc has been out for a month do I have to mark spoilers
fallow sapphire
||suprise I made my own people||
oh heck nah, last time i heard that i nearly crashed
gusty turret
I think you should be fine
fallow sapphire
oh dang it has been a month, wow
plain plover
I don't anyone in here hasn't seen it
gusty turret
It's like the Movie rule if you haven't seen it after a month its your problem
plain plover
and if they haven't it's their fault for coming in here
"While I struggled toward my expiation, an angel joined me and called out words of encouragement with a woman's voice."
"She asked me to join her in mortal combat with her adversary, but I chose to follow a second voice that promised me reincarnation and restitution."
ornate hull
my favorite line
My favorite line is from the aberration chronicles when he says "here you two are"
fallow sapphire
"still on a tour of all the old haunts?"
that was one of my favorite gen 2 chronicle notes
plain plover
HLN-A woke up Gabriel, but Rockwell also was talking to him
ornate hull
"This place was pivotal I'll grant you that"
gusty turret
So with the genesis and genesis 2 chronicles does that imply HLNA canonically joined our character before the simulation?
fallow sapphire
"this is where i made myself a god, after all"
plain plover
they were a teaser for what comes next except what they teased never happened
dense ice
||suprise I made my own people||
you forgot to include "cheese" after that line
Though I think only Red and other members of my team would get that joke
ornate hull
Your right I dont
dense ice
It's probably best you don't know. I feel bad for them, that they have to endure Spartan's people cheese.
gusty turret
He might wanna get that checked out
plain plover
John's second reason to live next to Ria
dense ice
HAAAHAHA
ornate hull
I wish I could be in your gang but I cant
plain plover
alright, I'm gonna play Half life 2 episode 2, I can't wait to see how the epic adventures of Gordon Freeman and Alyx end
where's the next one
gusty turret
Didn't Diana die on Abb i never finished her notes why'd she come back?
fallow sapphire
Helena
plain plover
Helena was able to revive her after she became homo deus
dense ice
alright, I'm gonna play Half life 2 episode 2, I can't wait to see how the epic ...
Wait- is this your first playthrough of half life?
gusty turret
She wasn't homodeus that long was she? There couldn't have been more than a day between the ascension and the megamek
dense ice
Enjoy it! Freaking amazing games dude.
Wish I could play those all over again without any prior knowledge
gusty turret
Mindwipe tonic
fallow sapphire
Genius
plain plover
nah, then I have to respec all my stats
fallow sapphire
Could be worse
gusty turret
Why did the dumbass transhumans decide to put piranhas in like every little puddle of water why did they hate us
plain plover
why did they only choose to keep 3 kinds of fish
gusty turret
I count at least 5
fallow sapphire
Thats all you need in life realistically
gusty turret
And why did they put kapros
They just put the absolute worst things they could've for trying to repopulate the Earth
fallow sapphire
Why would you create something to steal from the people who you are cloning?
gusty turret
We need to get all the popular Ark YouTubers together to submit some tiny useless fish in the vote so it wins to troll all the posers
plain plover
I wonder if the other secitons of the rings had different species of creatures, real ones like capybaras and caracles
fallow sapphire
I think it would be cool for different creatures, plus it would explain new species on ark 2
ornate hull
A reskined coelacanth that can be used as a replicator
gusty turret
And it also has the melee of a giga
ornate hull
Basically what the tropeo is
fallow sapphire
Tlc is different from new a creature
gusty turret
Eh same but different because it would add the queen and basically make them a whole new creature
fallow sapphire
I would rather a new creature AND a tlc over just a tlc
gusty turret
Too much to ask for
fallow sapphire
Of course that is saying that they would get a tlc
gusty turret
I wonder what the third creature is gonna be
fallow sapphire
Which i think most of the community would want older things to get a tlc
fallow sapphire
I wonder what the third creature is gonna be
Idk but i am hyped to see
gusty turret
Most old things that needed a tlc already got one really
They need to add drake breeding that's like the only thing they left out of that for no reason
gusty turret
Same removes the fun of stealing eggs but if one is breedable the other should be too
Griffins and basilisks don't need to be breedable, maybe Krabs
fallow sapphire
Wyverns i could accept more because they were also nerfed stats, but i dont want the drake to get nerfed stats, i like the feeling of losing such an insane creature as being horrible cause you cant just breed up another super drake
gusty turret
I bred a superhorse once
It was so fast and had a ton of oxygen so it was like a submarine
I feel like that's something the obelisk should've zapped me for
fallow sapphire
I had one that could knock out a giga once, had the health and melee super bred
gusty turret
The bane of ice cave
I found like 3 different unicorns within 6 hours of each other
fallow sapphire
Dang nice
gusty turret
Didn't tame them tho cuz they're useless
Unicorns need a tlc, give them an ability like a trike
fallow sapphire
Atleast give them slightly boosted stats or something
gusty turret
Let them shoot lasers like an astrodelphis from their horn
Make them a pegasus and give them wings
At least on mobile they shit rainbows
I feel like we're either gonna get another new wyvern or a new water creature as the third one
fallow sapphire
Hopefully not a wyvern, and depends on the effort put into the ocean
gusty turret
Unless they remove it there's already an ice wyvern area
Honestly wouldn't mind if they added forest wyverns to it as something you have to steal
Even tho that's just offbrand ember wyvs, otherwise idk they need to add something to redwoods they haven't in a while
ornate hull
I feel like it would be a new water dino because the map has a pretty big ocean between 2 landmasses
gusty turret
Maybe like whatever the word is for land/water? Something you find underwater but can come on land
ornate hull
Amphibians?
ornate hull
Big fwog
gusty turret
Huge frog that consumes all
Also might be something to do with the desert
New worms
azure ferry
tameable deathworms 😳
gusty turret
Yes please
Except they can come fully out of sand
And bury back in any kind of terrain kind like a reaper
I feel like wildcard would end up naming it a dragon since they're so good at mislabeling mythological creatures
Not gonna forgive them for the voidwyrm
gusty turret
Yes
bold dove
I feel like wildcard would end up naming it a dragon since they're so good at mi...
Pretty sure "voidwyrm" was their only mislabeled mythological creature.
gusty turret
Too bad they messed it up now it's gonna stick with them
bold dove
Don't think they really care.
gusty turret
Too bad for them
bold dove
gusty turret
Too bad for you
pale mesa
when voidwyrm mislabeled
ornate hull
Calling it a tek wyvern would of even made it more of a shit dino
gusty turret
Is that not what it is?
azure ferry
yep
gusty turret
Helena wouldn't be happy with the naming
Im watching a Vin Diesel movie rn i have superior Ark knowledge to any of you try me
crude charm
That thing is a fUcking wyvern
ornate hull
Ya call it void wyvern but just saying tek wyvern means they ran out of ideas
teal kelp
Should have had a void breath with some cool effects
gusty turret
Im fine with them being winged arthros
lyric tendon
makes me think that that little girl in ARK2 cinematic is Nida
plain plover
Nida is 16
as we got confirmed in the Genesis 2 secret alternate ending, the little girl is none other then Dora the Explorer
lyric tendon
and Santiago will turn old biopods into buggies
#TekATVTLC
plain plover
I mean, last modification I need to make to my mek is attach some wheels
radiant prism
You know whats weird is that a cartoon depiction of HLN-A is shown in Nida Note ...
Ayo who the girl on the right?
naive socket
Do alpha creatures exist in lore?
lyric tendon
you guys need to speed run the king titan with nothing
we can speedrun death by king titan
merry cipher
Maybe like whatever the word is for land/water? Something you find underwater bu...
https://survivetheark.com/index.php?/forums/topic/620912-ambulocetus-species/ [points at my friend's ambulocetus]
naive socket
we can speedrun death by king titan
In Ark death speed runs you
lyric tendon
Maybe like whatever the word is for land/water? Something you find underwater bu...
basically Eurypterid lol
bold dove
Do alpha creatures exist in lore?
They 'could.'
Alphas are the strongest of that kind. So it wouldn't be too much of a stretch for the Overseer to 'plop' down a strong ass rex.
Or that a rex survived for so long, and has been through some shit. To the point that it's basically a badass war-veteran.
teal kelp
The "rex war veteran" theory is cool as hell
arctic bison
sucks to become a alpha raptor only to be trapped in a stone 1x1 by a beach bob
teal kelp
Sucks to be an alpha rex only to be frozen alive and wiped out of existance while eating
That actually happened
latent fractal
So recently did the survive the ark mission and is that mission cannon? as it has a bunch of free dlc map dinos in it which would make those maps cannon I guess.
fallow sapphire
the mission itself is canon yes, the creatures on that specific map? No. It is possible those creatures are on other ARKs, but not on the island, or scorched for the griffins case
ornate hull
But sence it's in the simulation it doesn't matter
Because those dinos can just be whipped up
latent fractal
yeah another with that one was the extinction round, as it shows extinction how it was when we were on it, and with the creatures like snow owls and stuff which probably weren't there when the ship launched. or maybe they were idk
gusty turret
It is interesting the magmasaur actually was created out of the simulation and tested on Scorched
Unless im remembering that gen 1 chronicle note completely wrong
latent fractal
let me check the notes
“I just discovered something curious. The minds that made the Arks used them to test some of the critters that you’ll find in the Genesis simulation. My scanner tells me that an immense lizard with an internal bio-furnace was tested here.
They don’t have that creature on this Ark anymore -- we’d see the scorch marks if they did. But they tested the fire lizard here before you survivors came along. I wonder why they decided to have them only in the simulation?
yep @gusty turret
gusty turret
Wild they could create anything they want
latent fractal
yeah remember their being an discussion about how the magmasaur couldn't exist outside of the sim, yet here the note is haha
same with the ferox and how it created mass out of nothing, yet it is on the genesis ship
gusty turret
And bloodstalkers
gusty turret
Maybe Rockwell created bloodstalkers after tho that seems like a very him thing to make
And since it is in his biome afterall
latent fractal
yeah but believe bloodstalkers were already created before then one sec
fallow sapphire
there is nothing stopping them from being there before Rockwell took over, honestly its more likely they were there before
gusty turret
Yeah definitely it just seems like a very him thing to create to harass people
fallow sapphire
if Rockwell was to bring it out, he would have kitted it out with insane skills to be an extreme predator to humans
gusty turret
It is kinda
latent fractal
yeah
fallow sapphire
nothing more then it already had
gusty turret
That's only after being mounted tho I've absolutely destroyed people on wyverns with them
fallow sapphire
not saying they arent dangerous already, they most definitely are. But he would make them more so if he made them on the ship
gusty turret
I originally thought Rockwell created the nameless and seekers and reapers and so on but a short look at the notes later apparently not
What has he done kinda useless at this point
fallow sapphire
I originally thought Rockwell created the nameless and seekers and reapers and s...
its a popular belief, and very wrong
just like the belief that he fell into a pool of molten element and became the monster form, it is completely false
bold dove
What has he done kinda useless at this point
He made all the tonics, and kibble for us. 👀
gusty turret
He just made some recipes and became a crack addict pretty bad villain
bold dove
latent fractal
yeah lol all the recipes he made, and didn't he make plant z and charge lanterns as well
not 100% on plant z but know he made charge lanters
fallow sapphire
he did make plant r though
bold dove
Oh yeah. He did make charge.
Bit ironic.
latent fractal
he did make plant r though
well don't think the created it on purpose more us stealing bits of his body haha
fallow sapphire
i mean valid but still
bold dove
well don't think the created it on purpose more us stealing bits of his body hah...
No...no he did do it on purpose, pal
latent fractal
oh really
bold dove
Did you read the Aberration notes?
gusty turret
He's talking about plant R
latent fractal
yeah I was talking about the plant r
I know he created plant z, just was talking about plant r in that message
bold dove
He made charge to prove himself in the tek-tribe that he wasn't just a old man. That he was capable of being useful, and not treated as a child.
latent fractal
He made charge to prove himself in the tek-tribe that he wasn't just a old man. ...
yep right before he injected liquid element into a shinehorn lol
gusty turret
He didn't exactly make charge tho he kinda just harvested it the charge stations were already there beforehand
latent fractal
He didn't exactly make charge tho he kinda just harvested it the charge stations...
were charge stations already there?
gusty turret
Im pretty sure Mei's notes mention one
latent fractal
figured it was another one of the tek tribes inventions
bold dove
Nah. They're part of the ARK
gusty turret
Towards the beginning when she was getting attacked by nameless
latent fractal
ahh k
gusty turret
Why are they nameless
latent fractal
cause they are name less
bold dove
Why are they nameless
Cause the writer didn't think that through.
gusty turret
Strike 2 on wildcard for naming things badly
Im officially giving them a name
Jonathon
swift pawn
Looks like I need Jonathon venom then
red mist
stupid jonathon, i turn my light off for two seconds and jonathon is on me
gusty turret
Kinky
red mist
wc should hire me to stop them from naming something i can render cursed
ornate hull
How the hell did you let the rock drake die to a Jonathan wtf
gusty turret
Jonathon screamed and then a reaper came out of the ground and i got stuck
bronze turtle
Jonathon ate my babies after I logged off 😔
fallow sapphire
The Jonathon swarm got me after my charge light went out
plain plover
Jonathan was not a creation of Rockwell's
in fact, Jonathan was chasing mei-yin who was on the Aberration ARK a year prior to Rockwell
bold dove
gusty turret
I am inevitable
gusty turret
Jonathon meatran my base when i lived in shadow cave because i didn't know how to build it and he summoned a reaper
tender wasp
pretty mean to name them all Jonathan.. Johana might feel offended now XD
gusty turret
They can't complain they were nameless before i came along
tender wasp
Until they eat you and your base
gusty turret
They actually cant
I watched a vin diesel movie last night so they aren't allowed to hurt me
tender wasp
They don't care for Vin Diesel
gusty turret
Too bad
lyric tendon
Welp i realized "create your survivor" feature is plaussible canon now thanks to Santiago/s
gusty turret
Survivor shovel hands is canon
Is the survivor disappearing from existence completely for no reason when wildcard adds inflatable rex costumes also a plausible canon?
thorn sierra
pretty mean to name them all Jonathan.. Johana might feel offended now XD
Wait what is Johnathan
fallow sapphire
Wait what is Johnathan
You know, Jonathan. The swarms of Jonathans on aberration that summon reapers?
fallow sapphire
No… no I don’t think I will
urban stone
Why? Why should I?
thorn sierra
Oh I see
bitter barn
lyric tendon
You know, Jonathan. The swarms of Jonathans on aberration that summon reapers?
"Jonathan and the Reapers" sounds like a 80's band
gusty turret
How did you know about their secret ambition
gusty turret
<@!595257232980181003> stop crying and eat a meat
I don't know what this is supposed to means
shadow girder
If baby reapers die when exposed to radiation... How do they reproduce in the aberrant zone
bold dove
If baby reapers die when exposed to radiation... How do they reproduce in the ab...
They fuck underground.
Wait...no.
They don't fuck.......
They probably don't. And the ARK itself has to keep the population in check.
shadow girder
How does the Ark keep their population in check.
It's damaged and as far as we know they shouldn't even exist
bold dove
"Damaged" doesn't mean "broken"
gusty turret
It was already damaged but it was still about to zap the tek village
So yeah its still mostly functional
shadow girder
But would it know how to care for a species that probably shouldn't exist
bold dove
But would it know how to care for a species that probably shouldn't exist
Since they're still around. Clearly
shadow girder
I mean the animal itself could find a way to survive even without the Arks interference.
bold dove
Also...who said they "shouldn't" exist?
gusty turret
Me
gusty turret
I watched a Vin Diesel movie i know what im talking about
shadow girder
I don't think the ark was intended to become damaged.
And as a result the reapers existence is something they probably didn't account for.
red mist
rockwell didn't create reapers, therefore reapers shouldn't have existed i assume
bold dove
rockwell didn't create reapers, therefore reapers shouldn't have existed i assum...
No...no he didn't
gusty turret
What
red mist
No...no he didn't
this is probably wrong in like 30 different ways i didn't do any research
gusty turret
He didn't at all
red mist
yea i don't know why i thought that was accurate
bold dove
Everyone, shush for a minute
shadow girder
Reapers were either
- Present already in space for some reason
- Evolved from some therapod to adapt to Aberration. Just like Rock Drakes and Basilisks I assume
bold dove
@shadow girder Reapers exist cause the "ARK's" made them.
They're another form of punishment for survivors. Like wyverns.
On Scorched. A civilization got TOO big, and got fucking Thanos snapped by the ARK itself. By creating Wyverns to kill them all.
Reapers are a byproduct of the ARK punishing 'everyone' cause some ass wanted to nuke up the overseer.
Everything with a reaper is a Human killing machine.
From needing Humans to breed naturally. To killing the host after birth.
They're monitored like any other creature on the ARK. Since they 'are' part of the ARK.
gusty turret
All they did by nuking the overseer was allow Rockwell to happen
Is it possible the obelisk blast on Aberration was actually gonna be targeted at Rockwell because it somehow knew what was gonna happen?
bold dove
Nah.
The ARK just wanted to kill itself.
ARK's aren't suppose to be functional at that point. And so to prevent any further experiments, it was trying to destroy itself.
remote leaf
For Rockwell, it's no longer about testing out Element, it's about becoming a god
It's hard to imagine that Rockwell was once a normal human,
gusty turret
I think i prefer him with the megadumpy
remote leaf
Sorry?
shadow girder
Rockwells descent to madness in the animated series is something I'm DOWN TO SEE
remote leaf
Megadumpy? Which version of Rockwell is double cheeked up on a Thursday afternoon?
shadow girder
I will say I still find genesis ending odd.
If in Extinction we made Earth habitable again... Why the need for the genesis craft
gusty turret
They were launched at the sane time as a contingency for each other kinda as far as i know
If one didn't work at least the other probably would
remote leaf
I will say I still find genesis ending odd.
If in Extinction we made Earth habi...
The Aberrant ark re corrupted the earth
shadow girder
Also I find corrupted Reapers and Rock Drakes an odd concept.
These creatures live near element on a daily basis in Aberration. How'd they get corrupted by it
remote leaf
I don't understand how they would've been on Earth in the first place
shadow girder
Reapers overall I find weird.
Like how'd they come to be? Did they evolve to the environment or were they created to punish the survivors?
Why are they on earth?
Why are they on Gen 1 and 2?
remote leaf
Extinction takes place before the Aberrant ARK crashed on Earth
remote leaf
Reapers overall I find weird.
Like how'd they come to be? Did they evolve to th...
They were created as a punishment to Diana and her tribemates for being unruly, which eventually led to the severe malfunction of the ARK
charred roost
who created them?
gusty turret
Reapers overall I find weird.
Like how'd they come to be? Did they evolve to th...
They're on gen 1 because its a simulation and they're on gen 2 because they were in the database and Rockwell said so
shadow girder
So these things were logged into the database and so the genesis craft went "alright cool let's add these" seriously?
remote leaf
It makes sense why in Gen 1 and 2. Genesis Part 1 is a simulation, and reapers on Genesis 2 are located in the Innards biome, showing that Rockwell preferred them over other creations and likes their deadliness
remote leaf
who created them?
The overseer that used to live on the Aberrant ark before Diana and her tribemates took it's name off the Census permanently
remote leaf
So these things were logged into the database and so the genesis craft went "alr...
It could be that Rockwell himself added the reapers,
Given as they are altered by him and placed in his most sacred place
On gen 2 that is
shadow girder
I mean I'll take em. They slap harder than his fancy invisible pussycats
charred roost
there a good person on youtube that does an overview of ark lore from beginning to now?
remote leaf
Not sure,
gusty turret
Just search all the notes and watch them one survivor at a time
shadow girder
Yeah get depressed as you hear about the MEK projects creator dying before he sees his life's work fulfilled.
remote leaf
Santiago?
shadow girder
remote leaf
That doesn't make sense as the survivors have respawning capabilities, maybe in lore Earth changed that
shadow girder
Santiago has died so many times...
gusty turret
Im more depressed about us losing track of the megamek lesbians so we have no clue if theyre dead
remote leaf
diana did kinda destroy a whole ark tho
charred roost
not a big deal, there were a lot of them 😛
remote leaf
I'm sure we shall hear more of them in Ark 2
shadow girder
I remember reading about Rockwell on The Island and going "this Rockwell dude's a homie. Giving me these pro tips"
Then Aberration hit...
gusty turret
He was still kinda a homie in Scorched
The only reason he left the island was because he was worried about Helena
remote leaf
If Diana and the asian chick share the same fate as Santiago we will almost definitely hear about them
charred roost
so the notes are from survivors who beat the ark right?
remote leaf
Or something similar
shadow girder
I find it odd that the main character for Ark 2 (which is apparently gonna be more primitive focused) is Santiago... Ya know... The dude who created Tek stuff.
gusty turret
He knows better tho
remote leaf
Im most curious about the Genesis 2 explorer notes
gusty turret
It seems he has all the memories of his previous lives and knows what element does to the planet
shadow girder
I refuse to believe we can avoid Element forever. Someone's gonna get driven crazy by that stuff again.
Or a rogue overseer is gonna be like "let's drop some reapers and Shadowmanes on this new world"
gusty turret
There are no overseers
remote leaf
I find it odd that the main character for Ark 2 (which is apparently gonna be mo...
Santiago isn't an idiot, I'm sure he is scarred after seeing what element did to earth
remote leaf
There are no overseers
Helena most likely still exists
gusty turret
Helena isn't an overseer?
shadow girder
I do hope we return to earth but tbh... It's probably a bigger mess now than it was when we left Extinction
I doubt the Arks could contain the spread of the Aberrant Ark.
remote leaf
An overseer is a Homo Deus who controls and ark, while Helena doesn't control an ark, she is a Homo Deus
gusty turret
Aberration likely exploded on impact and that's how Rockwell got out
remote leaf
We know it crash landed because of the Extinction ending
gusty turret
I don't think shits gonna spread from it
remote leaf
There was fire and corrupted land all over the crash site
shadow girder
And as we know... Aberrations creatures are fucking resilient
remote leaf
Earth is a lost cause 100%
gusty turret
Yeah because it couldn't reseed the other Arks wouldve 100% purified it
remote leaf
Rockwell could only survive on element
And he must've been exhausted after his heart was eaten
gusty turret
What are you talking about
remote leaf
Rockwell is (was) a element infused human, his blood was element, he needs element to survive
gusty turret
There was minimal element in the corrupted ring
Just a little bit in the dirt
There is much more to him than element
shadow girder
There's his charming personality
remote leaf
There was element all throughout the soil on Earth, yet it only looked like scorched dirt
We don't know the extent of the corruption on the second ring
shadow girder
there was also element coming out of the dinos which... How do they survive that? Are corrupted dinos just reanimated corpses effectively?
remote leaf
*there was also element coming out of the dinos which... How do they survive tha...
Yes
gusty turret
They became one with the element
remote leaf
They never really die though
gusty turret
We don't know the extent of the corruption on the second ring
Except we do, Gabriel lucked into a shard of it when excavating with a stryder, he didn't need element to survive otherwise he wouldn't have lasted on the ship
remote leaf
Dont forget how spread out element really is, traveling thousands of lightyears still found element hidden within the asteroids
shadow girder
which means we might have a run in with it in Ark 2
remote leaf
Except we do, Gabriel lucked into a shard of it when excavating with a stryder, ...
Don't Stryders and all tek creatures run on element?
shadow girder
The older ones I think did like Enforcers and shit
remote leaf
Voidwyrms do use element too iirc
gusty turret
Yeah but on the ship nothing canonically uses it
remote leaf
Which doesn't make sense
fallow sapphire
except at the same time it does
gusty turret
It makes all the sense
shadow girder
What about astrocetus?
remote leaf
How could a civilization completely relying on element find a energy source powerful enough to fuel a extremely large space ship?
gusty turret
They had an artificial sun and the astrodelphis and astrocetus don't canonically use it
shadow girder
Side Note - I hope Ark 2 launches with a simple map for people new to the series. But also a more "advanced" map for long term players
fallow sapphire
element is present as a power source on the ship, Nida tells Gabriel its powering a lot of things around them including his tek suit
remote leaf
Artificial sun or not they need a source of energy equivalent to that of element, one that hasn't been revealed
gusty turret
HLNA is in the ship she knows more than Nida
fallow sapphire
HLN-A didnt even know we were on a ship while in the simulation, Nida was a worker on the ship
remote leaf
We do know that blue corruption isn't a bad thing,
plain plover
There is no clear answer to what happens here, it is just a plot hole
remote leaf
And that the ship shows many blue flickering lights
gusty turret
They left a lot of plot holes between extinction and both genesis
remote leaf
Like how the survivor got to the ship after becoming a homo deus
shadow girder
Why are Managarmrs and Snow Owls "cyber-modified" I never peeked at their notes
plain plover
The element power is a plot hole, but other things are just missing or never explained
remote leaf
*Why are Managarmrs and Snow Owls "cyber-modified" I never peeked at their notes...
They are corrupted,
But the corruption that affects them is different from what corrupted the earth
Blue corruption seems to be a less volatile and much less dangerous version of element
plain plover
Not really, while most creatures became corrupted by element, these creatures adapted to be infused with element
remote leaf
Ah, so they rely on in but arent dependant on it
plain plover
They do rely on it to prevent being corrupted
gusty turret
Nida is a biatch she should've took that dagger and killed Rockwell
shadow girder
I try not to focus too much on Extinction because some of the things in there give me a headache.
Like seriously how does a Rock Drake or Reaper get corrupted? They LIVE next to rivers of this stuff
lyric tendon
she's a child
gusty turret
Too bad for her
remote leaf
I try not to focus too much on Extinction because some of the things in there gi...
How did they get there in the first place
lyric tendon
cut it
plain plover
And then after the arks fell their organs dissolved and all the element infused creatures died
gusty turret
I try not to focus too much on Extinction because some of the things in there gi...
Because the versions that would've been created on the experimental Arks would never have been used to that for one
lyric tendon
And then after the arks fell their organs dissolved and all the element infused ...
the only ones survived are in Gen
plain plover
Well, Rockwell made an environment for them to survive
woven dawn
I'm going to try on big ofs
remote leaf
And then after the arks fell their organs dissolved and all the element infused ...
The arks did a pretty shitty job purging all element, there is still literal tons of element in space
lyric tendon
Well, Rockwell made an environment for them to survive
no R-Manas and R-Gachas tho
gusty turret
They can't do anything about that lmao what do you want
plain plover
They… we’re only supposed to purge element on earth
remote leaf
Because the versions that would've been created on the experimental Arks would n...
Reapers were a punishment for the survivors, how did the punishment follow them when wyverns didnt follow survivors to ab?
gusty turret
What
lyric tendon
They… we’re only supposed to purge element on earth
people might be still too attached to thoses creatures so i guess they take them as well
shadow girder
It's a miracle the ecosystem on Gen 2 functions at all...
There is a lot of big predators over there I'm amazed they can coexist and have enough food to sustain themselves...
plain plover
I would guess it was Rockwell who likes them
gusty turret
Reapers were a punishment for the survivors, how did the punishment follow them ...
Tf are you actually on about
remote leaf
They… we’re only supposed to purge element on earth
Makes sense, still huge risk of re-corruption if a asteroid storm of these infested rocks interferes with the protection
lyric tendon
It's a miracle the ecosystem on Gen 2 functions at all...
There is a lot of big...
basically like the ARKs
i mean that is what Helena said
remote leaf
Tf are you actually on about
Wdym?
gusty turret
No one said anything about the creatures travelling across Arks
plain plover
The arks formed a protective shield around earth to stop meteors
remote leaf
but how are reapers on earth in the first place
remote leaf
The arks formed a protective shield around earth to stop meteors
Makes sense
gusty turret
They were created in one of the experimental Arks that never launched
plain plover
The proto-ARKS made them
shadow girder
Do you guys think we've heard the last of Rockwell?
Or will his notes find their way into Ark 2.
gusty turret
Probably gonna be a clone of him that has no memories
plain plover
This was explained by Marc soskin, that as the arks in orbit slowly lost control over their ecosystems, so did the proto-arks
Remember, Ark 2’s adventure will have all the characters around at the same time, including us
No need for notes when we can just talk to them
remote leaf
They were created in one of the experimental Arks that never launched
Reapers were created as a punishment to Diana and her tribemates on the Aberrant ark whatchu mean 0_o
gusty turret
You're just not listening
gusty turret
@plain plover please explain it im getting a headache
remote leaf
over words?
shadow girder
This was explained by Marc soskin, that as the arks in orbit slowly lost control...
And then we have our favorite redheaded stepchild Aberration. Where after some "events" the entire environment mas changed drastically from it's original state... But somehow the ecosystem still worked.
gusty turret
over words?
Over rexplaining the same thing multiple times
shadow girder
Do we have an idea of what Abby was like pre-malfunction?
plain plover
Aberration was a total loss of order for its ecosystem that was prolonged by Rockwell, who became
The overseer for tat ark
remote leaf
Over rexplaining the same thing multiple times
You didnt explain anything all you said was that they were present on an experimental ark, yet the reapers were designed and created solely to punish the survivors on the aberrant ark
remote leaf
Do we have an idea of what Abby was like pre-malfunction?
People speculate it was valguero, its just a fan theory tho
shadow girder
The overseer for tat ark
How much of the ecosystem is a result of natural evolution?
Reapers - Were created
But Rock Drakes, Basilisks, Etc. These do not seem natural.
remote leaf
Rockdrakes karks and basilisks were products of their environment and element, they evolved
plain plover
Reapers were created by the arks, if anything rock drakes are the most natural result. The arks created all the creatures to sustain what it thought was left of its ecosystem
remote leaf
Basilisk seems like a pokemon evolution of the titanoboa
shadow girder
I'm amazed Rock Drakes and Reapers don't compete for food...
plain plover
And Wyverns seem like a Pokémon evolution for the pteranodon
crimson spear
Woh
gusty turret
Rock drakes and reapers get a damage buff to each other
remote leaf
Dragon is a pokemon evolution to wyverns
shadow girder
I knew Rock Drakes feathers stood up when reapers are close
But didn't know about a damage buff
lyric tendon
Rock drakes and reapers get a damage buff to each other
yet you still a light pet to beat the reapers lmao
plain plover
They choose to stay away from each other
shadow girder
Basilisk is all over the place on Abby
Literally EVERYWHERE
They are not limited in territory
remote leaf
Basilisks spawn in the rad zone?
shadow girder
except there
I've seen some in the rad zone but most likely due to spawning in blue and falling down
remote leaf
They choose to stay away from each other
Reapers and rockdrakes live in the same area relatively,
Basilisk are apex predators in a different food chain than rock drakes and reapers
gusty turret
You didnt explain anything all you said was that they were present on an experim...
They weren't designed on the spot the reapers would've been in a database shared amongst the Arks before they launched, the Overseers of the Arks did whatever they see fit with the Ark to properly challenge their inhabitants or whatever, now the experimental Arks malfunctioned and would've been spewing out everything imaginable
plain plover
Sorry to tell you man, but the writer explained they were designed on the spot
remote leaf
Reapers are a mystery on why theyre there,
shadow girder
Ok so let's see if we can gather a rough timeline.
- Dianas tribe was getting rowdy
- Reapers were made
- Diana clapped the overseer
- Ark Malfunctioned
- Rockwell becomes the Overseer
- Rock Drakes, Basilisks, Etc start appearing.
"timeline" order of events. Is the better way to say it
plain plover
The arks are capable of communicating with each other, specifically the broken sunken forest and aberration can only communicate with each other
gusty turret
Not even close
remote leaf
Ok so let's see if we can gather a rough timeline.
- Dianas tribe was getting r...
Rockdrakes were there before rockwell became overseer
gusty turret
Ok so let's see if we can gather a rough timeline.
- Dianas tribe was getting r...
Rockdrakes were there over a year before Rockwell
remote leaf
Same with basilisks
shadow girder
well shit
remote leaf
Nameless are an interesting case though
Their bond with reapers is odd,
And their creation is a mystery
shadow girder
I like how Reapers just became a part of the food chain and environment. Like they were created as a punishment, I'd expect them to be wiped out after finishing their job but nope.
plain plover
Same with Wyverns
remote leaf
Reapers never finished their job,
Diana still thrived
The scorched overseer probably deemed the wyvern a good fit for the scorched earth as to prevent tribes from ever becoming so big again
shadow girder
I'm amazed Wyverns can survive on scorched Earth at all.
An animal that big would need a monstrous food supply
And there's a lot of them
There's a reason irl deserts don't have very big creatures.
gusty turret
The Ark provides
remote leaf
Mantis were a laughable attempt at a punishment
shadow girder
What about Deathworms
remote leaf
Deathworms werent punishment
They were made to prevent survivors from seeing the boundary of which they are contained in
gusty turret
Deathworms were a natural border as were raft monchers
remote leaf
Yes
gusty turret
The overseer when Raia gets an army of Wyverns and becomes a super hero:
Do you think the overseers communicated
remote leaf
To an extent, but not much
gusty turret
I need an overseer dating show
remote leaf
Overseer were shells of people, pretty much emotionless robots
gusty turret
Too bad
gusty turret
The only emotion the overseer of Scorched had was hatred
Mantis swarms, deathworms, wyvern packs, mega electrical storms, everything everywhere wants to kill you
Living rocks
remote leaf
The arks destroyed the existing population of element very quickly, like in the span of 2 minutes, yet the crashed aberrant ark still showed mass amounts of element
gusty turret
I feel like that process was greatly exaggerated for the cutscene
remote leaf
if so, it shouldve also shown the aberrant ark being cured, yet it was not
Gigas were used as a punishment to the New Legion
gusty turret
Didn't save Mei
I think Mei was more of a punishment for the legion than the Giga was
remote leaf
How did Mei take a giga into the Megapiticus arena tho?
It is a contradiction present
lyric tendon
Mei is admin aboose
remote leaf
Dont forget its canon that Helena went to Ragnarok
In the managarmr dossier it says that it has a breathe attack similar to that of the ice variant of the wyvern
Ice wyverns dont spawn on scorched
fallow sapphire
Ragnarok isnt a canon dlc, so no she really didn't
remote leaf
Ice wyverns dont spawn on scorchdd
fallow sapphire
yes i know
remote leaf
The mana dossier mentioned the ice wyvern
fallow sapphire
but first of all Rag isnt canon, and second we follow the same path she did
remote leaf
how do we explain this
fallow sapphire
yes, i assume that was more a reference to rag, maybe another species that was on scorched or maybe ice wyverns were on extinction at the time
gusty turret
Yeah that seems more likely
remote leaf
non if those are ever mentioned in the explorer notes
fallow sapphire
taming snakes according to Helena isnt possible, yet it is
remote leaf
continuity errors be like
fallow sapphire
just cause it isnt in the notes doesnt mean it isnt possible
remote leaf
Scorched earth deserves a tlc
gusty turret
It does but it wont happen
remote leaf
I dont like the fact that the devs call it completed
gusty turret
We never even get to see it's overseer
fallow sapphire
for all we know Helena and Rockwell might not have either
remote leaf
Or the other guardians, at least a ascension should be added
fallow sapphire
the ascension would basically just be the islands again
remote leaf
It would have major difference at the end
fallow sapphire
if they showed the landing sure
gusty turret
A new overseer design would be cool
remote leaf
Perhaps it could show the survivor panicked as they realized something is wrong
The ascension to aberration would surely have warnings due to the nature of the ark
gusty turret
Does ascension actually canonically happen or is it just teleporting somewhere for the fuck of it
Thats all it seems like in story
remote leaf
Ascension canonically happens to the survivor
fallow sapphire
its canonical, according to one of Helenas notes it made quite a show for the people on scorched
gusty turret
It's not like they gained anything from it besides knowledge of the true nature of what was happening
Just teleporting with a light show
remote leaf
Their implants change
fallow sapphire
did they, they never said anything about their implants changing
remote leaf
Perhaps not
fallow sapphire
ours changing could just be for gameplay reasons
cause no one mentions the supply drops, which would be kinda big
remote leaf
yeah
Which is odd
There's a whole section dedicated to show that the station sent out the drops
fallow sapphire
speaking of which another gameplay thing is drops being on the surface of ab
they blew up the overseer tower, destroying the area drops were sent down
remote leaf
We arent sure where the station is tho :/
fallow sapphire
doesnt matter where it is, the tek tribe blew the overseer tower to smithereens which should mean no drops, yet we still have them
gusty turret
There's obviously multiple areas because on the island its just s bunch of little tubes right next to each other
remote leaf
Yes
gusty turret
Unless they move before they come down
fallow sapphire
the other towers look very different to the overseers, but it is true there could be
remote leaf
Perhaps if there is multiple stations diana wouldve only had access to the overseer one
fallow sapphire
by stations do you mean the towers?
remote leaf
I guess
It seemed to me that the overseer arena was on a whole seperate station, i guess i was wrong
gusty turret
My dad works at the tek cave he's gonna ban you from the Ark if you keep messing with me
royal coral
got a lore question! so, rockwell im assuming, when we killed him on abberation, ascended into the network and downloaded to the genesis ship. but, since abberation also landed on earth, does that mean he could potentially still be alive on the earth? meaning ark 2's dlc could be returning to earth and stopping his efforts again.
this is what i assume happend anyway, could someone correct me if im a bit wrong about this? just trying to get to grips with how rockwell corrupted half the ship in what appears to be such a short amount of time. if it has been a short amount of time since we kicked his tenticles on abberation, i mean.
fallow sapphire
he was still on ab after we beat him, you can see after the extinction ending on alpha. There was a connection from Arat Prime which is assumed to be how he got there after the ARK's came back down, as the ship had been gone for generations, and never landed on earth. He did corrupt the ring in a very short period of time, you can read from Nida's notes that the entire ring got corrupted extremely fast @royal coral
gusty turret
What does Rockwell smell like im gonna write a fanfic
lyric tendon
welcome to the #CursedLore
remote leaf
got a lore question! so, rockwell im assuming, when we killed him on abberation,...
Rockwell never died, he then got new goals and then decided to try and rule the galaxy
And failed to a witless puppet and a random dude
royal coral
see im figureing hes still around, just another clone of him perhaps. but hrm. so he DID download himself to the colony ship then? just surprised how scared he would be at his end considering the whole.. mutiple people running around mechanic. (or multiple lives i suppose)
fallow sapphire
well the thing to clone him is kinda... destroyed with him
remote leaf
Im not sure how he wouldve gotten to the genesis ship
fallow sapphire
there is a connection to arat prime that helena used, and its assumed Rockwell used and us depending on if you bring your character from extinction
highly assumed as there is like no other explanation to how he got there
royal coral
yeh tis what the consensus is in general i feel. however, i still got this feeling that, rockwell simply split himself into two halfs. one to stay on earth and try to finish what the element wars started. and the other to corrupt the colony ship and spread the influence to the stars.
this is purely hyperthetical, not got anything to back it up. im just a bit lost lore wise with how we ended up at genesis part 2 from extinction, essentialy.
gusty turret
Im pretty sure he looked over that
He was too ambitious and cocky and that led to a mostly meat ship in space
fallow sapphire
possible i guess, but what i assume the link does it transports your mind, except for homo deus as they are pure energy... so he transferred his mind over, without a body as he was "confined in the calculating engine" of the simulation, then found a way out and killed the crew
correction he outgrew the calculating engine, not confined there
gusty turret
Not sure why he wouldn't replace all the master AIs with mini minions
fallow sapphire
cause the simulation was no longer to serve as a testing ground for survivors or to keep the trapped there, it was to create his servants
gusty turret
Kinda dumb he just ended up putting their guts on the outside anyways
remote leaf
Theyre still strong asf
fallow sapphire
cant his critics appreciate a little artistic license?
remote leaf
It's a big change from being obsessed with a new element to being a megalomaniac who wants to be a god
fallow sapphire
and to think "godhood" started from injecting it into a lightpet
fallow sapphire
tek tribe put it down
remote leaf
What happened to it physically
fallow sapphire
it became a huge hulking monster... let me see if i can find the note number
gusty turret
I would tame it
remote leaf
it became a huge hulking monster... let me see if i can find the note number
Thanks
fallow sapphire
Rockwell Record #22 on aberration
remote leaf
I hate finding explorer notes on ab, ext and gen 2
gusty turret
Gen 2 is fine since you can just fly
remote leaf
Its hard to find the notes
gusty turret
fallow sapphire
Its hard to find the notes
here if its that much trouble i can send you a pic
zealous marlin
Isn’t Rockwell one of the bosses
fallow sapphire
3 actually
remote leaf
here if its that much trouble i can send you a pic
I can just look at the wiki
zealous marlin
And isn’t he a dossier
fallow sapphire
I can just look at the wiki
wont see the picture
remote leaf
Oh
fallow sapphire
And isn’t he a dossier
what do you mean?
zealous marlin
what do you mean?
Idk
remote leaf
Yes he made a bunch of explorer notes
gusty turret
They should've just made a bunch of AI Meks to kill corrupted stuff
remote leaf
Enforcers and Defense units be like
gusty turret
Not just puny enforcers full on meks
Would've been lot more effective
And give them tek minigun arms instead of swords
fallow sapphire
would take to much time to create that kind of AI which Santaigo didnt have, so giving full mobility to human people who can think and plan is smarter then barely programmed AI
gusty turret
Why were they still fighting human wars at that point couldn't they just program robots to do it
Or even dinosaurs at that point
fallow sapphire
they didnt have the dinosaurs at that point, and again the ability to create that kind of AI isnt easy, maybe they did have it in development during the war but never finished it, or it became part of the System
gusty turret
They could make the moeder they could make a huge mek ai
Unless the Transhumans just did everything
fallow sapphire
Moeder was part of the Genesis Simulation which took both URE and feds to make
gusty turret
Yeah but it was an AI
remote leaf
They had time to make the AI
gusty turret
Or they could've just continued to fight the corruption with Element causing more corrupted which could just continue to be fought with element
Fight fire with fire yknow
fallow sapphire
or as santiago put it, "fight fire with bigger fire"
gusty turret
Yeah all the fires gotta burn out at some point
fallow sapphire
except element apparently
gusty turret
If you use it all theres none left to burn
fallow sapphire
Except element levels would only rise from using the rest
gusty turret
Theres none to rise if there is none
How about we make a time machine and go stop element from ever coming to Earth
Also we gonna talk about how strong tek suits are to prevent people from flattening deep underwater?
fallow sapphire
Nope
remote leaf
Element was found within the earth iirc
gusty turret
We would just go back in time as far as it took to stop it from appearing on Earth
So what seems possible is veins of it were discovered on the moon and overmining led to the fractured moon we know and love
bold dove
Most likely.
gusty turret
Well not if it didn't have intelligent enough life to weaponize it
plain plover
all the planets the genesis ship travels too in-game are contaminated with element, I can come up with an explanation for this but it's a fan one and also gets into the element plot hole
tender wasp
That way they can have Element again in Ark 2 later if they want too or make DLCs with Element infested planets.
summer tundra
question did the king titan cause the element to come to earth or was the asteroid that was going to come anyways
plain plover
the asteroid came before the king titan
bold dove
Element just came to Earth by freak chance.
summer tundra
o ok
bold dove
The King-Titan was a byproduct of Element after it established its hivemind on Earth.
It's just a guardian/avatar to Element. Not the creator, or leader.
plain plover
well, it's actually hinted this was not the case. in Santiago's notes, Uma's take on element was that it was a "message from a higher power that it wanted us to join it"
summer tundra
ok also would ark 2 kinda be like extinction but without corruption
plain plover
in "like extinction" do you just mean it will be on a planet
summer tundra
yea
tender wasp
It is actually allready clear on Extinction that the King titan must be a product of Element. Abs/Ext Santiago allready suggsteded it and says that it must have happend cause of some big war (He does not remember the war).
plain plover
yea
alright, that's not the first thing people think of when they are asked what extinction is like
Santiago remembers most of the war, but he died at the end
and then the transhumans patched in a 20 years worth of fake memories, but they didn't use him again until 300 years after
summer tundra
dang
tender wasp
and then the transhumans patched in a 20 years worth of fake memories, but they ...
Not the one on ABs/Ext. His memories end some time befor the war.
Gen 2 Santiago does know of the war but not what he did in it until he finds out some of it.
summer tundra
o ok
plain plover
ah, right, I didn't see you were talking about ARK santiago
summer tundra
wait in extinction how did the red and blue obelisk get there
bold dove
wait in extinction how did the red and blue obelisk get there
Obelisks are just giant ass batteries.
summer tundra
ok
bold dove
They're there to keep the proto-ark's, and the city powered.
summer tundra
ooooooo ok
stuck torrent
wait if green ob is at sanctuary, red ob is at desert and blue ob is at snow biome, what ob is at sunken forest
bold dove
wait if green ob is at sanctuary, red ob is at desert and blue ob is at snow bio...
Green obelisk 2.0
stuck torrent
this town ain't big enough for two of the same awbalaisks
tender wasp
Sunken Forest feels more like some test for an Abs like Zone and powered by the obelisks above ground. At least that is how it feels for me.
bronze turtle
Oí pve bobs how much gp can a dedi of spark make
gusty turret
We're lore bobs not pve bobs or math bobs
gusty turret
Eh fuck it im bored
Gonna assume you're using a dedi of charcoal aswell
180000 spark in a dedi, divided by 4 per gp craft in a chem bench x 6 gp per craft in the chem bench so it should be approximately 270000 @bronze turtle
gusty turret
Did the overseers have access to novels or movies or some shit because its clear that they got the inspiration for reapers from the Alien movies and wyverns appear a lot of places and im pretty sure even the nameless' spawn code is chupacabra so like where were they getting data to create this stuff if not access to a library database of some sort
This is especially directed at reapers tho like where would the overseer have gotten the idea from no where for incredibly resilient xenomorphs that reproduce via impregnation of a host that leads to a baby bursting from said hosts chest and killing it
(for nameless they just looked at a picture of Prince Phillip and went with it)
tender wasp
The overseer might have been a homodeus and therefore once was a human so they might have gotten some inspirations from movies and books for some of their creatures.
There also might have been saved different possible creatures allready in the Arks database so an AI or homodeaus could use it to make new stuff or even invent new creatures as they saw fit.
ember solar
I thought overseer was originally part homodeus part ai so when the homodeus faded only the ai was left
bronze turtle
i dont understand ark lore
fallow sapphire
i dont understand ark lore
Whats got you stumped?
bronze turtle
i just dont understand how island turns into gen into gen 2
fallow sapphire
i just dont understand how island turns into gen into gen 2
The island doesnt turn into gen 1 or 2, you travel along the maps through “ascending”. For the genesis part of the story its up to you if your character is the same from the ARKs or someone new. But the ARKs (which is what the island, scorced, aberration, and extinction cover) and the Colony Ship (which is what genesis 1 and 2 covers) are 2 separate “plans” to save life