lore-nerdz

[granite stump]

Likely because of the one who waits telling us that Rockwell survived and we gotta put him down only to enter a whole new nightmarish landscape

[cobalt flame]

Im pretty sure rockwell's plan was to conquer the galaxy or wtv right? So if we never stopped him and stayed on earth wouldnt he have eventually reached and conquered earth?

[granite stump]

That or we just don’t know of Rockwell and the one who waits wants us to investigate why arat prime is still covered in corruption only to realize 2 things.

1. Arat prime is still active with someone at the helm

And

2. Someone survived the crash of aberration due to small camps being found belonging to Rockwell which we aren’t sure exists yet

[granite stump]

No, Rockwell is likely having plans here however he realizes it’s foolish to fight against a unified earth that has no corruption holding them down and he likely would of surrendered but likely discovered data on the genesis ship and is gonna track down the super luminal link to transfer to the ship to begin his galaxy wide conquest plan

[cobalt flame]

So every planet BUT earth?

[granite stump]

Basically he abandons earth due to being outgunned but sees a defenseless ship travelling aimlessly throughout the cosmos and sees it as the ultimate way to spread far away from earth without worry of getting erased by humanity

[cobalt flame]

U reckon earth could go back to using element?

(The pure non corrupting one)

[granite stump]

Seeing as how earth still has the refined stuff on it and the arks are built to filter the spores and repurpose it, I’m willing to bet that element will still be used, just not to a high threat level of use like in the tek war

[cobalt flame]

I wonder how long LC has been around. Like i mean ofc it hasnt been around since b4 element was discovered but i feel like it mightve been shortly after the world went to sheet

[granite stump]

The only real danger with the element tho is in arat prime, the corruption still exists but if arat prime itself can release that pulse instead then it should fix all the issues

[cobalt flame]

Now i can imagine a guy in a tek suit fighting a (presumably) guy in a dark tek suit

[granite stump]

Well no, arat prime was established seemingly around when element first showed up. Not the corruption, specifically back when element was first found and identified. The region became Arat prime and once the tek war ended it became a bastion of hope for humanity against the corruption which in turn gave access to the creation of the genesis ship which launched around when Sanctuary (extinctions main city) lost contact with Arat prime and went dark due to the titans overrunning the place

[cobalt flame]

But that doesnt entirely explain the reason LC is all messed up too.

[granite stump]

We just know arat prime was suffering its own issues as the genesis ship was launching, presumably something went down there at the same time as sanctuary’s fall

My theory is the lost king which at this time was a normal survivor discovered red element and started to cause mass chaos in arat prime which triggered the genesis ships premature launch from arat prime, leaving the region to be claimed by the now lost king

[cobalt flame]

Couldnt the King titan theoretically be reborn on LC or arat (if theres corruption there too) like it wouldnt be the same king titan but couldnt something like it or even more powerful be born from it still?

Like after the war ended and stuff messed up didnt titans just pop out left right and center from the element itself?

Bc obv there were more than just the 4 we know.

[granite stump]

It had to take a whole planets worth of corruption for the king titan to form, there’s just a small pocket left on earth that’s not enough to support it forming. That and no titan dares enter arat prime for some odd reason

[cobalt flame]

Pretty sure it was stated in the Ossidons dossier that they just deadass cant survive there

Too cold. Not alot of food.

Etc

[granite stump]

Going off the first Ossidon reveal, no titan dares get close to arat prime. This means they stayed away as if scared of just didn’t feel the need to attack the region. Either red element is a type of component that mimics corruption and makes them stay away because they don’t really need to attack or something is purposefully keeping them out that they’re afraid of

[granite stump]

It doesn’t actually say they can’t survive there, it just implies they don’t dare go into the region

If it was due to the cold then half the planet would be locked out from the titans. And if it was food then there wouldn’t be enough for all the sub titans to have since there’s barely any life.

[cobalt flame]

I swear it said somewhere in the ossidon stuff that "it can survive in areas that not even the titans could"

Or something of the sort

[granite stump]

I’ll double check it

[cobalt flame]

Which is most likely arat prime

[granite stump]

“Survive where even titans falter” this is a semi vague thing. Just like how the following “Where the reseed protocol couldn’t reach” is. We know that due to aberration landing nearby that the region couldn’t get the reseed purification pulse, meaning that’s why arat prime is like how it is. Meanwhile with this other statement, it’s vague to the point that we aren’t sure why titans fail to live/reside in Arat prime

It’s definitely not because of the cold or food. It’s likely due to how terrifying the region is itself. After all, ossidons were engineered to be the regions Rex basically while he also has the Thrall patrolling the region for any signs of human life (as seen with Mei yin getting attacked by one in the reveal trailer for lost colony)

The point I’m basically making is the lost king has an army seemingly and he’s ready to go to all out war to keep his kingdom no matter what. The one thing he was missing was a queen and well… due to small teasers we kinda know he has a queen now

[cobalt flame]

Wdym

It feels like just yesterday we got the LC trailer and now were less than a month away from the map itself

Im so excited for gen 1 bro

Its the one map i never appreciated enough.

[granite stump]

||Due to a VA revealing a piece of script we know there will be a Lost Queen in this along side the lost king. This confirms Mei yin as the one to be the lost queen since she was the last one left on earth following Diana’s second death and Helena’s ascension. This also means the final battle isn’t just with the king but with Mei yin as well. The reason why it’s Mei is due to how the lost king spoke in one of the trailers, he mentioned to an unknown figure how they’re a “lost soul” how they lost their friends, one vanishing and the other perishing. This also ties into Mei yin’s ’beast queen’ title, she went from well known “Beast Queen” to losing it all and becoming the “Lost Queen”||

[cobalt flame]

I cant see any of that..

[granite stump]

Click it

[cobalt flame]

Oh

[granite stump]

Thanks to a lot of these reveals we know quite a bit now honestly

[cobalt flame]

Hopefully when we get lost colony we get alot of lore

[granite stump]

The only thing we don’t truly know is Rockwell/Edmunds involvement and how he becomes the wall of flesh

[cobalt flame]

I like me a nice lore dump

[granite stump]

Likely due to red element involvement since even in ASE he was a lot more… pink then he was purple

[cobalt flame]

You think he mightve done some rockwell type stuff. Like if he was pink, and Red and purple make a magenta color then he mightve combined them or smth..

Or just took red element in general since he pretty much IS normal element anyway

[granite stump]

He probably has both in his system since the new Rockwell we see in lost colony has the overseer tentacle Rockwell within the mind of a pure Edmund

[cobalt flame]

Shot bro so hard with my 600% shotgun he changed his mind for a bit 💔

[granite stump]

Rockwells 1 failsafe as overseer of aberration, creating survivors. He just used it as how we use a USB, bro just transferred his own data into the not so empty husk of Edmund and now there’s technically 2 Rockwells in 1 body

[cobalt flame]

So hes having a midlife crisis?

Because we whooped him so hard?? 😂

(ik thats not it but it sounds funny)

[granite stump]

Well… one Rockwell is having a midlife crisis while the other is being the devil on his shoulder

[cobalt flame]

Ohh its like having a shoulder devil and shoulder angel except the Angel is the person with the shoulders?

If that makes sense

[granite stump]

Basically, that or a schitzo guy with a voice in his head telling him to do some bad stuff while he doesn’t want to do said stuff

That’s honestly more accurate

[cobalt flame]

Honestly i dont think rockwell was OBSESSED with element like it was portrayed. I mean the guy is a chemist... the type of person who works with elements all the time. I feel like his natural chemist intuition made him interested when he discovered but he became obsessed after he injected the shinehorn and watched it mutate before his very eyes. That or he was just Coo-Coo for Cocopuffs all along.

[cobalt flame]

I mean if element mutates EVERYTHING then his brain likely grew and messed up too hence giving him his second personality

[granite stump]

No he was crazy after the events of the island. He went above and beyond for the stuff

[granite stump]

That’s not how that works

[cobalt flame]

No?

[granite stump]

No, it’s just a new survivor he created

Fresh mind fresh everything, he just transferred his own mind INTO the same body as that survivor. This causes a split personality so to speak.

[cobalt flame]

I meant like during the ab boss fight when sometimes u could hear rockwell begging for mercy (i think you could atleast)

[granite stump]

It wasn’t him begging on aberration. Atleast not to that extent.

He was trying to ‘reason’ with us and was attempting to give us the stuff that he had flowing through him. He was willing to have us become his equal even. Dude was that willing to let us become whatever he became

[cobalt flame]

I dunno. Im not a lore guy.. i just say stuff i remember tbh

Its 5:12AM for me tho... so ima go to sleep

Cya later

[granite stump]

It’s 4:10 am here lol

[cobalt flame]

R u in the states or

U dont gotta specify which state, just curious

[granite stump]

I’d rather not specify in the lore channel of all places lol

[cobalt flame]

Fair enough

Off to bed i go. Lots of breeding to do tmr

Cya around

[tidal agate]

I would not say midlife crisis. He was pretty full of himself before he even found the Element on the Island. Petty, Narcissistic and always thinking he was the best Researcher no matter what. His transformation only worsened his ego complex.

[granite stump]

Well no, Rockwell was actually very chill, a bit harsh here and there but that’s because of the era he came from, nothing out of the ordinary there

Once he met Nerva, he agreed the island needed order, having naked people running around causing chaos and raid parties being all over is the reason why he felt Nerva was in the right. The issues truly started at the end of the island when he arrived in the overseers chambers and witnessed Nervas army get erased by the overseer

[lofty harbor]

True

[pure cipher]

||Agreed, I meant that we will be injecting the veilwyn with red element, similar to Rockwell with the shinehorn. But the original cause of Malwyns being created in the past was the Lost King. I should’ve added that. And Rockwell will likely follow experimenting on creatures, similar to abb, somewhere in his story on LC. Good point on them having skull like face structures. Since it’s appears to be more forceful of an injection compared to the ossidon, I wonder if the other evolution of the veilwyn will be a slower process, and perhaps more stable than the other option just not fully stable.||

[gusty turret]

"rockwell was actually very chill" thats not what the entire events of everything after the tek cave say but pop off

[tidal agate]

I think it has to be put into perspective to a degree. His 3rd Journal entry literally says:
'What a bother. I’d just as soon mindwipe the lot of them and return to my studies. Alas, such is the fate of the island’s most respected neutral entity.'

But to be fair to him If I had to deal with savage tribes every day which are killing each other for the smallest grievances, I'd go insane after 2 weeks

[granite stump]

The point the other guy said was Rockwell was never chill at all which isn’t true, he was rather patient, he’s just ‘normal’ for where he came from. I’m not saying he wasn’t a jerk, he was but it’s just normal for him

[mild basin]

Lost King? What did I miss

[granite stump]

It was revealed in one of the trailers that there’s a Va playing as “The Lost King”

Which is our final boss seemingly for the lost colony.

Anyways, It’s likely a 3 way fight between us the survivor, The Lost king ||With his queen, Mei yin|| and Rockwell/Edmund infused with both purple and red element

[bold dove]

It's like 13-or-something that he's offered slaves by the New Legion, and starts to regret declining them.

[rain dock]

In other words, early 19th century British

[rain dock]

I mean, for 19th century British, that kinda makes him among the most ethical

[rotund halo]

i posted a screenshot in fanart asking who the skeleton in lava golem cave in ragnorok is if anyone is able to tell me as im curious

[main steppe]

Well, it’s Ragnarok, so it’s no one, since the map isn’t canon

[snow hedge]

That being said with the knowledge of 3 factions, I could see Rockwell and lost king either working together to experiment or attempting to clash against each other for superiority.

[gusty turret]

Why not both

[snow hedge]

Possibly. Either way I feel like eventually Rockwell was losing so he bounced lol

[light slate]

That, and feeling betrayed when he found out Helena fought the Megapithecus with Mei Yin without telling him or inviting him to join

[light slate]

That “Va” is Keith David thank you very much

[bold dove]

Dumbest thing to feel betrayed for.

[light slate]

Keep in mind that Rockwell was under the impression that Mei was a savage “beast” would would brutalize and cannibalize her victims

[rain dock]

Her beasts probably did tbh

[granite stump]

I forgot the lads name and I feel bad

[bold dove]

Bro, they're the Arbiter from Halo 2.

[granite stump]

I was not a child that grew up with halo-

[quaint marsh]

And who da heck is that

[bold dove]

[quaint marsh]

I know you love Halo but not all of us grew up with it haha

I didn't have a console or PC until like, five years ago

[lyric galleon]

Can someone explain the ascended lore to me

[turbid seal]

Anyone of ya lads got any idea on the power source of the colony ship

[gusty turret]

The... Big ass sun in the center of the ship....?

[bold dove]

[bold dove]

@turbid seal

[turbid seal]

So is it like a neutron star or a dwarf star

[bold dove]

The artificial kind.

[turbid seal]

I see

[granite stump]

Power source? As in fuel? If so then they explained that the ship has basically infinite element fuel. It repurposes the element spores and converts it into hard element to then use as fuel and this in turn triggers more spores and rinse and repeat

This also explains why the ship doesn’t get corrupted

[gusty turret]

Who explained that?

[mental basin]

This is explicitly not the case.

HLN-A says it herself - the artificial """star""" fuels the ship.

Where the fuck did you find that explanation lol

[bold dove]

Wasn't the Stryders made to remove the Element in the soil, and keep it at a minimal. Because they kind of used....Earth soil? Which was already polluted?

[mental basin]

Yeah, and that's probably why they defecate Element Dust. It's not that they're even purging it, it seems like they're just converting it into usable Element.

[bold dove]

Yeah.
Which I assume is then suppose to be used by the residences of the ship. Made into spores again, and polluted the soil, and the cycle repeats.

[gusty turret]

Idk im pretty sure element isn't real guys i think the soil just naturally pollutes itself

[granite stump]

I’m fairly certain in Genesis 2 it was explained that they had an unlimited fuel source that allowed the ship to travel indefinitely without much maintenance thanks to it repurposing element

[gusty turret]

You can... Literally see the big fusion reactor....

This proves the theory that gamers dont look up

[granite stump]

I know there’s that… the notes also mentioned something else on top of that…

[gusty turret]

Can you find this?

[granite stump]

I haven’t searched for it but I’m fairly certain there was something about that somewhere

[bold dove]

"That's a nice argument. Why don't you back it up with a source?"
"My source is that I made it the fuck up."

I would appreciate it though if you could site the note.

[granite stump]

I’m in the middle of something so I actually can’t

[gusty turret]

Well i read through Santiago and didn't see anything and if anyone was gonna talk about it it would've been him

[granite stump]

I’m fairly certain it came from that chick at the end that was with the split personalities.

[bold dove]

Meeka and Gabriel?

[gusty turret]

Im pretty sure nida also doesn't talk about that given its been a long time since i read her

[granite stump]

Not Meeka, that’s the girl in ark 2 lol

Nida I’m pretty sure it was and she mentioned it in a background thing for like a small side thing I don’t genuinely remember and I’m focused on other stuff and unable to check for it

[gusty turret]

I think you might just be hallucinating something

[bold dove]

I'm fucking dumb.
Nida, I meant

[granite stump]

I’m fairly certain there was something that mentioned repurposing element for an infinite fuel. It could of been for the arks or the Genesis ship I genuinely forget

[bold dove]

That's the Stryders.

[gusty turret]

When do we even find out stryders do that

Is it the dossier?

Surely Santiago isn't that dumb

[bold dove]

Dumb for what?
Without the Stryders, the Element in the soil would just pollute the soil even more, and cause an Element outbreak on the new planet they're trying to find.
With the Styders, that pollution can stay at a minimal/obsolete, that any traces amount left won't be harmful.

[gusty turret]

Clean the pollution by making more pollution in the process

[granite stump]

It’s not the dossier and it specifically was in a note where someone talked about that very thing I forgot which thing it was for tho

[bold dove]

Refined Element doesn't pollute, unless you use it.

[gusty turret]

Which the stryders do if they're repurposing it for fuel

I'm just curious who says that they do

I didn't see it anywhere

[bold dove]

I don't recall the fuel part, if that's actually in the notes. I just know they where made because using any inch of Earth's soil would have traces amount of Element in it, so they needed an automatic way to remove it with all the humans being asleep/in the simulation.

[gusty turret]

Yeah im not disputing them cleaning things up im just trying to figure out where this fuel source talk is coming from

[bold dove]

🤷

[gusty turret]

Hes been busy for a long time im starting to think this doesn't happen in the notes

[granite stump]

Shrug people have lives mate

[cloud steeple]

I don’t

[gusty turret]

No one that plays ark has a life thats just a fact

In order to play ark ark has to become your life

[granite stump]

You don’t understand that solo players in single player out there exist

[gusty turret]

They dont

[granite stump]

I am that very person… I’m a person who plays single player…

[gusty turret]

Nope

[granite stump]

The heck to you mean nope?

[mental basin]

I also played SP for like, 4 years lmao

[main steppe]

I play it mainly because I like not having my stuff get wrecked every time I log off

[granite stump]

Or griefed by someone who’s trying to make a base nearby and it causes you to move since you can’t build in your spot anymore (speaking as a pve player…)

[lusty mist]

Single player lore channel

[magic roost]

Are Tek Creatures even Canon?

Like yeah they exist in gameplay but what about the lore

[mental basin]

Yeah

On Extinction and in Genesis 1

Not on the ARKs

[bold dove]

They are, I think we just don't know "why" they where made.

[gusty turret]

Because haha funny robot

Maybe they were designed as weapons like how in jurassic world the guy wants to use them as weapons for the military

[gusty turret]

I mean nope

[magic roost]

I mean...

Refined Element still somewhat works like element

So maybe it's basically a "corrupted" creature that still functions like a creature

[gusty turret]

What

[magic roost]

Didn't element on earth cause corruption?

[gusty turret]

Well yes

But i don't know what tek creatures have to do with corrupted creatures

I think the likely story is military usaege

Like we already have the defense units scouts meks drones enforcers etc

[magic roost]

Refined Element is a more "stable" version of element but should still be able to replicate certain properties

[light slate]

Do we know if Lost Colony will have a proper day/night cycle? I’m hoping it remains night on the map so I can use Megalos

[gusty turret]

Im assuming it will since its after the arks came back and that was supposed to kickstart the earth

[bold dove]

Helena says the sun is rising at the end of Ext. So it'd kind of should have one.

[surreal wing]

Chat

Petition for lost colony characters we will find on the map to be datable

Also poor rockwell finna get evil again 😭 (he somehow manages to copy his uncorrupted self and clone it, returning in ark 2)

[kindred burrow]

What if the sun rises will be snowstorms

[granite stump]

That’s not for ark 2

That’s just for lost colony. It’s highly likely Rockwells story ark is fully over by the time of gen 2’s finale.

[surreal wing]

"somehow, rockwell returned" - Meeka during tbe 1st story dlc for ark 2

I predict the future

[granite stump]

If they drag him back it’s gonna be such a terrible idea

If anything they should just make a new villain at that point.

[gusty turret]

We are talking about snail games here..... The same group responsible for an ai update that bricked an entire game.....

[gusty turret]

Or it's just the sun moving from the earths orbit?

[granite stump]

Snail doesn’t have control over the story of the game so you can’t really use that as a point. They’re just a parent company that gets the money from the product. The devs of Asa/ark 2 are the ones who decide on the story

And in terms of the ai slop, that’s on snail, 0 involvement from the Asa/ase crew so as said, point doesn’t really have much substance

[gusty turret]

Snail has control over whatever they want as they own wildcard

[granite stump]

Not to that extent. If they had that lvl of control we would see crypto paid garbage all over the place or ai slop all over Asa. Yet we don’t

All we got is paid mods and in general DLCs which are kinda the normal (paid mods help support the creators and the mod page users since they used curse forge if I recall for their mod connection for consoles and pc for easy to install mods)

[kindred parcel]

E

[opaque lintel]

ark its down ☠️

jajjaa lul

[snow hedge]

Weird lore

[granite stump]

It devolved into a stupid discussion- back to our regularly scheduled program!

[north bear]

No

[rain dock]

Tbh, the actual content update wasn't Ai generated. It was just inexperienced devs. The Ai was the trailer for it

[mental basin]

There's still AI in the DLC tho.

The title screen / logo is AI, & at least one of the Artifact models is also really, really clearly AI-Generated.

The majority of the content is original and AI free, in fact they even got some wonderful illustrators for the Explorer Notes, but

There is no denying that some AI managed to slip through the cracks here ans there.

[gusty turret]

Id say slipping through the cracks is a misrepresentation, more of testing the waters, pun intended

[strong scaffold]

Lore question for the experts: Element caused the corruption that ruined Earth, yet it seems like all the tech built to try and fix that uses Element. Isn't that...kinda counterproductive? Won't the Element used in the ARKs just corrupt the Earth again when they land to RESEED?

[gusty turret]

We just kinda have to assume the arks purged themselves of element and then went outwards otherwise the story doesn't work

Or maybe the arks terraforming is continuous so even when pollution occurs it just gets rid of it again

[strong scaffold]

But LC having Element kinda disproves that right?

The first one, yea I guess the second would work.

[gusty turret]

Is it confirmed that lost colony has element problems still after reseed? I haven't followed anything recently

Or hell maybe Rockwell just hijacked a reseeded ark again and used it to do whatever he wanted

[strong scaffold]

Not confirmed, no, but there seems to be lots of talk about Red Element.

[bold dove]

Not really.
Element is a reality warping substance.
You kind of can't get rid of Element with modern technology.

That's like trying to get other nations to ban fossil fuels, by reverting back to 1600s technology.

You can't fight the reality warping substance, unless you reality warp it out of existence.

[strong scaffold]

So what is the plan then? Remove the overuse of Element by....overusing Element?

[bold dove]

Element is used to make Tek, but the traces amount in it isn't significant enough to cause pollution.

If the entire Earth's supply of Element is irradicated, then there's no way to fuel the Tek devices, leaving them deactivated, and a non-threat for spreading.

[strong scaffold]

But didn't the colony ship use it too? Wouldn't that infect the destination, even without Rockwell's shenanigans?

Not trying to be obtuse, this was always something I've wondered.

[bold dove]

Yeah, the ship used Earth's soil. Which was already polluted.
Stryders eat that from the soil, and shit out refined Element. Which is completely safe, until melted down and burned into fuel. (Tek Generators)

So, it is mostly up for the colonists. But in theory, as long as no one uses Tek on Arat. Then no pollution will spread.

And even if it did, it'd take a century or two long conflict of a global scale to make the Element pollution hazardous, and turn Corrupted.

[strong scaffold]

I would've just thought they'd try and leave it behind...seems like the current plan is just asking for a sequel...an ARK 2 if you will lol.

Even if that was way harder since Element is magic material.

[bold dove]

They'd still would need Element to fuel the drones going out into space and harvesting the meteors.

[strong scaffold]

Why not develop other power sources for that?

Perhaps I'm overanalyzing this lol.

[bold dove]

The fuck are you going to use to substitute power Tek?

[strong scaffold]

Dunno, but if Element caused the apocalypse I would've thought they'd want to avoid it, even if it meant they had to use crappier tech.

[granite stump]

With how the map appears to be, with aberration being partially broken with its main pillars and the fact the reseed protocol didn’t start from it, that section of the region didn’t get the purge of element meaning corruption still runs rampant in the outskirts of arat prime while the insides of Arat prime holds the red element or as the early reveals mentioned it, Cursed Tek. The corruption existing was shown in one of the crunches and basically insinuates that we still have to worry about them to a small extent however titans won’t be an issue since the corruption is so small now titans can’t form from this small supply

[gusty turret]

I figured the other arks just covered aberration since it would've impacted first

I doubt they would've made the reseed protocol expecting every single ark to work perfectly

I wouldn't bank the entire fate of humanity on the final plan working perfectly

[bold dove]

URE wasn't the smartest, so maybe they did.

[gusty turret]

The unmatched power of an artificial star

[bold dove]

You can't put an entire ass star into a tiny ass mining drone.

[gusty turret]

But you can put it on the ship and just charge the drones

[bold dove]

"You can't just shoot a hole into the surface of Mars"

[gusty turret]

Like... Batteries....

[bold dove]

That's, not how batteries 100% work.
They would still require some form of Tek to handle that much energy input, and to withstand being even remotely near the star.
Which....Tek is then made of Element.
And at that point....why in the fuck would you add extra loopholes for a system that you can just....allow them to fucking run on Element that lasts centuries?

[gusty turret]

Because the point is trying to stop using element

We're also talking a super futuristic society its not like they're putting aa batteries in mining drones

[bold dove]

The point of the "ARK's" is to stop using Element.

[gusty turret]

Im sure mr science twink is perfectly capable of figuring something out

[bold dove]

At no point does it say anywhere that the Genesis ship was constructed with no Element usage in mind.
The Terran Federation wanted to preserve life and bring it to a new world. That's all.

[bold dove]

Santiago?

[gusty turret]

Yes

[granite stump]

The arks likely cover a certain radius around them with the reseed protocol. This explains why there’s so many arks in a specific pattern around the planet. With aberration crashing near arat prime this highly likely explains why arat prime has the last remaining corruption fragment on earth. It likely will be fixed by the time we leave earth to go to the genesis ship as well, and knowing the people of arat prime they likely have their own programming that acts akin to a reseed protocol. The lost king just doesn’t activate it since that would mean the red element might go away too

[bold dove]

That dude has only invented Tek stuff.
That'd be like telling Oppenheimer to invent a non-atom splitting nuke during his time alive.

[gusty turret]

Hes also like the smartest person in all of the entire ark universe

[bold dove]

That's just the fandom glossing over Santiago.

He's smart as fuck. But nothing states he's the smartest human to ever exist.

[gusty turret]

Also since when did aberration crash near arat prime

[bold dove]

Since 2018.

[gusty turret]

Its literally light out it would've had to have been on the opposite side of the earth

[bold dove]

Earth is rotating again, so that doesn't matter.

[gusty turret]

I don't think its rotating that fast

It would've had to have immediately rotated 180° upon the reseed protocol being activated

[bold dove]

We don't know the time scale between Ext's ending, and the post credit Ab crash scene.

[gusty turret]

Fair

[granite stump]

It’s also likely where the ark originates from

Atleast where it was pulled out from the planet from

[bold dove]

Yeah, because THAT never was explained in any previous map.

[gusty turret]

Wildcard try to stop writing mysterious time gap challenge

[bold dove]

Wildcard try not to retcon shit in ASA challance.

[granite stump]

All we do kinda know is the islands original spot was just outside of sanctuary within that gigantic crater

[gusty turret]

I'll forever stand by extinction being based somewhere in asia since the text is vertical

[granite stump]

Atleast that ark resembled the island

[bold dove]

The ARK's control center was on the mountains of Sanctuary.
Riddle me this, Batman.
Why would you put the "control center" in a whole other nations city, on the polar opposite side of the planet, from their suppose origins.

[bold dove]

That's all Tek text.

[gusty turret]

But its vertical tek text

[bold dove]

That's ALL Tek Text

Even in the Hall of History.

Everyone in the 25th century be reading vertically now. (and physical binary, for some fucking nerd reason.)

[granite stump]

Future is wacky

[gusty turret]

Its a chinese century what can i say

[bold dove]

You know, when you really think about it. The ARK universe is one of the least worse universes to live in.
Espeically post Marc Soskin era.

(least worse in fiction)

[gusty turret]

I dunno it feels pretty bad

[granite stump]

In terms of the hells that is corruption compared to other stuff like the flood or nercromorphs… idk which is worse

[bold dove]

Would much rather like in ARK then any other sci-fi universe.
At least in ARK, we have confirmation souls exist, and you objectively can just live on in cloned bodies with the exact same consciousness.

[bold dove]

Necromorphs.
I'm sorry, it's not a challance.

[granite stump]

I don’t think I want to exist realizing I’m not actually who I am to an extent

[gusty turret]

Yeah but i don't wanna do that in a universe that is inevitably going to be completely consumed by element

[bold dove]

Corruption can be beaten.
Necromorphs are written to 'be' undefeatable in the long term.

[granite stump]

That’s fair, necromorphs are kinda cursed

[bold dove]

Skill issue.

[gusty turret]

I'll take Warhammer at least then i have big oiled up men fighting to protect me

Most of the Warhammer universe doesn't even know that war is a reality

[bold dove]

This person will become food for a hive city.

[bold dove]

Yeah, but useless people are made into food.

Which, let's be honest here.

[gusty turret]

Everyone is just food

[bold dove]

If we're on Discord, we're probably not the most fit for combat.

[gusty turret]

Neither are the death corps of krieg but theyre put to use anyways

[bold dove]

But at least you die with both when you mutate. (for Necromorph's, dying is literally required to become one)
The Flood, man. You're given conscious immortality at the cost of being tortured for the rest of existence, only to see others become one with the chorus that you joined so long ago.
Being infected by The Flood is the closest Sci-Fi games have gotten to a hell experience, without just having actual hell. (Warhammer)

[bold dove]

Yeah, but Kriegs are all clones.
Don't think you're a clone of the same dude.

[gusty turret]

I might be

[granite stump]

Well… certain necromorphs results with death. A certain one is a result of eating infected flesh and they still have fragments of humanity they’re just insane to high hell

[bold dove]

Talking about the crazy dudes from Extraction?

[granite stump]

No, it’s those starved cannibal guys from 3 I forgot what they’re called

[bold dove]

Oh, gonna be honest. Didn't bother with 3 that much.

[granite stump]

3 is an ‘Okay’ game. They did some interesting ideas it’s just tainted with EA greed

[gusty turret]

But still i think id rather take most things over a universe that is inevitably going to be completely consumed by element

Id rather get it over with at that point

[bold dove]

The co-op could've worked if it A: didn't feel empty playing a SP save.
B: actually kept the original dark Issac storyline.

[bold dove]

Aaaaaaaaaaand where are you getting that?

[gusty turret]

The fact that genesis 2 shows how its spreading like everywhere throughout space so much so that there are lifeforms that have adapted to eating it

[bold dove]

Okay, but counterpoint.

[gusty turret]

Good point

[bold dove]

Wildcard doesn't have the balls to kill off their universe, just like Games Workshop doesn't have the balls to kill off 40K.
It'll either A: infinitely be drawn out, making the "inevitable collapse" over dramatic endpoint that is never reached.
B: do what they did when they thought they where actually ending the ARK storyline, and just have it on a galactic scale Thanos snap of all Element, via some Sci-Fi bullshit.

[gusty turret]

Counterpoint, it doesn't matter whether the universe is going to end on the part of the writers or not because if you existed within that universe the writers do not exist and you have legitimate threats instead of plot armor

[bold dove]

Getting into sematic territory here. But no, inherently every universe that has a single protagonist has extreme plot armor, in or out of universe.
Fuck, it's even canon in Halo that the Master Chief has literal "luck" on his side.

Also, The Survivor is an immortal abomination of man that is as smart, if not arguably actually smarter then Santiago.
They can come up with some bullshit method.

[rain dock]

Who is that for the real universe?

[gusty turret]

But you are not the protagonist and neither am i

[bold dove]

You don't know that.

Give yourself some more credit, jeez.

The Survivor is canonically a gamer from the early 20th century.

The gamer part is if I recall part of a tidbit from one of the Gen1 HLN-A notes.

The Survivor is, by all intents and purposes, a self insert.

[bold dove]

John Universe.

[main steppe]

Ahhh, but that in of itself IS a counterpoint

By showing multiple creatures that are able to adapt healthily to element, it means it’s not necessarily something that will always corrupt everything

[gusty turret]

Its like cocaine bear but with space fish and gerbils

[main steppe]

Pretty much

[light slate]

Who is more evil, Rockwell or Boris?

[lusty sparrow]

Me

[north bear]

Rockwell

[subtle axle]

If the ark characters happened to be playing their own game what do you think everyone would do

Like for example Helena would only play PVE

And she would do one of those “taming all Dino’s in 100 days” challenges

[hard ingot]

I would say Boris, Rockwell was corrupted by Element

[mental basin]

Actually kind of a truthnuke

[granite stump]

Rockwell before getting corrupted legit poisoned a whole tribe for their manticore trophy to go to the overseer platform- Boris just kinda killed someone who was not able to walk if I recall

[light slate]

Rockwell was certainly under the element’s influence and I think that was his first evil deed while under element’s influence

[granite stump]

It wasn’t under the elements influence. He did it of his own will just to get a closer look of the starlight sanctuary. If anything that was fully triggered by the cause of element it was when he started experimenting with raw molten element.

The tribe incident was him and him alone

[magic roost]

Rockwell be like

"Wich ARK creature is the better lab rat?"

Gaius

"I've had 100 days to rebuild the Roman empire on the Island"

[subtle axle]

Nerva is just trafalgar 💔

[light slate]

This

Except Nerva would be one of trafalgar’s targets

[subtle axle]

Fr

He’s tearing his hair out in his throne room or something as his 15th Rex is sniped by some bob in a goblin skin

Rockwell in the corner like “we’ll have you tried going out there and-“
And nerva is just like “yes I’ve tried everything!!”

[magic roost]

Trafalgar mentioned

This dude makes ARK PvP look like a straight up greek tale

[next needle]

G

[gusty turret]

I don't really get why the arks would nuke people for establishing civilizations when the point was to prepare people to reestablish civilization on earth

Seems counterintuitive

[bold dove]

The point isn't to reestablish civilizations, it's to just preserve life in the most objective way.

[gusty turret]

By killing people?

[bold dove]

Death is part of life.
Also, the ARK's have a finite amount of resources, and can't afford large metropolis cities on them that would consume all of the resources, and not allowing for a proper ecosystem balance.

[gusty turret]

But its human nature to centralize like that so it would just happen over and over and the ark would waste more resources creating things to kill the people than just letting the people learn to be self sustainable

Then it would waste more resources creating more people to replace the people it just killed

[bold dove]

"Ashes to ashes, dust to dust"
The ARK's keep their resources by killing off overpopulations, and recycling that matter for new organisms, or environments.
Why allows humans to make a large civilization, when you could rework those minerals into new organisms that the civilization likely killed off?

[gusty turret]

Because thats not how life back on earth would work and the people need to learn to sustain themselves with finite resources and recycle on their own

The arks basically just created nepo babies to repopulate the earth

[bold dove]

A simple skill issue.

[bold dove]

As well, gotta keep into consideration the ARK's are a decaying piece of shit mess.
They probably had lower and more reasonable standards when they first entered into orbit. But they've been up their for longer then expected, that now shit has been getting real.

No one bothered to turn The System off and on again, basically. So it has like thousands of years worth of hiccups that have piled up.

[gusty turret]

I think they should've just put a lot of missiles on the arks

It would've solved the problem

Carpet bomb everything

[bold dove]

You see, smart people would already know the ARK's are artificial from the get go.
But the ARK's don't have a lot of those.
So carpet bombing would 'prooooooooooobably' help the no smart people (note Helena) in knowing this place is artifical.

[gusty turret]

They wouldn't have even needed the whole survivor thing though if they just shot like 500 missiles at every titan

Instead of making mei do it all by herself

[bold dove]

Yeah, this is why I kind of shit on the URE.
They weren't the...smartest of nations.

[gusty turret]

Well the feds just decided fuck it we're leaving they didn't even try💀

[bold dove]

Terran Federation's also weren't smart, but they had the better idea.

[bold dove]

It was a gamble if Earth could even be saved from Corruption.
It's statistically a fact that another planet could harbor Earth life. Just low that planet so happen to be in the same galaxy.

[gusty turret]

Well it was a gamble on how long it would even take to find a planet and also that it wouldn't all fall apart while they were asleep (which it did)

Why did they let Santiago sleep after he died he was like the one guy they should've kept a clone of up at all times💀

[bold dove]

Okay, to be fair. It only falled apart because some bozo old man with a crack addict got aboard.

Which is something no reasonable person would expect.

[gusty turret]

They could've just like.... Thrown a bunch of enforcers at him ..

[bold dove]

He wasn't physical

[gusty turret]

Then download norton idk what to tell you

[bold dove]

Norton is also a virus.

[gusty turret]

You're a virus

[bold dove]

My point exactly.

[gusty turret]

We had the smartest people in the world working on a ship and they didn't secure their code

[bold dove]

He was kind of being tortured by a URE transhuman

[granite stump]

As we know, the arks are flawed. The scorched earth ark shows it destroyed an established city by legit making it fall into the ground. The ark doesn’t want people to sit and relax, they want them to struggle, to adapt or die. That’s the whole point. For humanity to adapt enough for when the reseed happens. That way, humanity as a whole can handle themselves after the corruption is gone (The original plan was for people to go through the arks to eventually arrive on earth to start the reseed protocol but the corruption just kept adapting and evolving which in turn moved the goal post further and further making it an infinite loop that just wouldn’t end, until we got sent to the aberration ark which put that cycle to an end)

[bold dove]

Another URE L.

[gusty turret]

Uma was pretty cool i think

That was her name right

Or am i hallucinating

[bold dove]

Yeah, pretty cool to force someone to relive a victims death over and over again, just to hear what the terrorist said.

[gusty turret]

Well i mean he did make the weapons responsible for what happened to earth so ehhhhhh

A little torture isn't the worst thing he could go through

[bold dove]

Oppenheimer created the first atomic bomb.
Yet, it would be the governments long past his time that would end the world, not him.

Santiago invented weapons because it likely was both a hobby, and a way for a shut in like him to make enough money to last him a lifetime.
He never intended those tools to destroy all life.

[gusty turret]

We'll go tell the king titan santiago said hes sorry

[bold dove]

Aye, the Mega Mek is a perfect example of his tools being used for good.

[gusty turret]

Hes also largely responsible for aberration since he was the "leader" essentially

So we wouldn't have had to deal with rockwell if he didn't nuke the shit out of the first overseer

[bold dove]

Another URE L.
Why the fuck would you put one of the smartest humans in history onto an artificial environment, and NOT expect him to retaliate?

Also, I'm on Santiago's side with that one.
Fuck that Overseer.
Dude shouldn't have resurrected him and not expect chaos.

[gusty turret]

I think that was just a Santiago L why would he nuke something he knew nothing about 😭

[bold dove]

I would.

[gusty turret]

Aberration was a paradise idc what some entity is doing id be chilling artificial or not

[bold dove]

Especially when there's only two possibilities at the moment.
Either A: they're aliens, and fuck them.
B: this is some new third nation that's been in the shadows.
Because you know you fucked up when you can get Santiago (this one specifically that was in the MIDDLE of the Element War) to ally with some URE group.

[bold dove]

Also, The Island is a paradise, yet that shit still will slaughter you.

[gusty turret]

The only threat we were told of in aberration was once they were forced into the caves we didn't hear about them struggling on the surface

The aberration overseer was probably just a chill dude

[bold dove]

The threat was the Overseer. (also likely every Overseer is the same, since they're just AI's)
Remember, Nosti was destroyed because of both selective pressure, and finite resources.
It would be only a matter of time until the entire Tek civilization would've gotten Thanos snapped out of existence as well. (which we see later on during Ab's notes to be the case.)

[gusty turret]

Well keep in mind this was after they nuked it

[bold dove]

Parameters are parameters.
The ARK's don't hold grudges.

[gusty turret]

Its entirely possible the whole system was just tweaking out after being nuked

If it was so worried about people settling it would've put the big threats on the surface instead of just underground

[bold dove]

It was literally tied back to the exact same situation Raya explained to Helena, but sure.

[gusty turret]

Neither Nerva or the tek civ were settling so im not sure why either situation occurred there

[bold dove]

The Tek civ was settled in the caves.

[gusty turret]

It seems like they were pretty actively developing and exploring to me

Considering Diana went splat on the wall

[bold dove]

We don't get to know time spans in the game, so between the surface being scorched, and Helena arriving, it could be years.
And in years, with Tek, you could probably raise another Nosti without issues.

[strong scaffold]

Question for lore experts - once a survivor ascends, can they travel back to the Ark they ascended off via the obelisks? I know mechanically yes, but lore wise?
My story run group is trying to decide if we can do that, mostly with The Island <-> SE, since Aberration crashes canonically when we go to Earth.

[hollow creek]

in lore no one has

but never stated as impossible

[strong scaffold]

Fair point. We'll probably transfer some tames, but not go back.
Though perhaps Extinction <-> Lost Colony depending on how the latter goes. Teleporters are a thing.

[bold dove]

Going from Ext to LC would probably be pretty drastic, as the Ext after LC is probably all forests now.

And yeah, like boat said. Nothing states it's impossible, just never happens in canon.

I'd assume the only acceptation is Genesis.
Super Luminal Uplink is probably a one way ticket.

And narratively, we probably don't go back either since we see in every ascension the next map we go to. And there'd be little to no point to back peddle to something like the Genesis Simulation when we have to deal with physical threats on the ship now.

[strong scaffold]

Right, Genesis would be a reset, no previous tames. I figure it's a one way ticket too.
Do we know how fast RESEED would hit? I figured it might take years so Ext wouldn't change too much right away.

[bold dove]

Watch the Ext ending

You see a whole ass forest being formed as the cutscene is happening.

In the span of less then 30 minutes, the entirety of the surrounding area of Extinction went from a barren wasteland, to a large jungle with trees that seem hundreds of years old.

[strong scaffold]

Ah, true, just looked. Never saw the ASA version of the cutscene before.

[bold dove]

It's the same in ASE.

The ASA Ext ending is literally just the ASE one, but with a new Helena model.
They either got lazy, or had an extreme time crunch. Because besides Helena, none of the new assets are used in that cutscene.

You can even see the old ASE obelisks in multiple moments in it.

Pretty sure as well all of the survivors are the old ASE models as well.

[gusty turret]

Valid the new models suck💀

[strong scaffold]

Yea, that Helena...yikes. Serious uncanny valley vibes.

[deft bolt]

Idk man I kinda think the ark storyline is pretty booty cheeks

Idk man I think it had more potential and it doesn't help that random explorer notes that shows the lore are scattered across the map in no particular order

Kinda hope that in ark 2 they make ascended Helena as the villain and maybe mei yin and Vin diesel stops her

[bold dove]

Explain why the story is booty cheeks, maybe?

[deft bolt]

It's hard to follow and easy to ignore cause the explorer notes are found
In random order

[bold dove]

That's less of a complaint of the lore itself, and more of their shitty presentation.

[gusty turret]

Why would ascended helena be the villain

Talk about booty cheeks writing

[gloomy trout]

what?

[gloomy trout]

they are numbered? and accesable at anypoint

[gusty turret]

In response to this

Making her a villain would be like genuinely some of the worst writing ive ever seen

[gloomy trout]

yeah it wouldnt make alot of sense

[deft bolt]

Bru the game doesn't tell you that when discovering you need a YouTube vid for that

[deft bolt]

Hear me out

[gusty turret]

Ah yes she was already beginning to fade but now shes across the galaxy on a planet with no technology she can interface and somehow shes a villain

[gloomy trout]

it dose tho

[gusty turret]

It literally tells you what number the note is😭

[deft bolt]

Maybe the ascension corrupts Helena and it turn him to like a overseer then she fights Vin diesel and mei yin

Boom GOTY 2026

[gusty turret]

What😭

[gloomy trout]

yk homodeus isnt a ascension right?

[gloomy trout]

no real point in trying to have a convo about the story with someone who dosent know it lol

[deft bolt]

Yeah but when you start you just go to the nearest one

[gusty turret]

Well i mean it kinda is? Its a transcension

[deft bolt]

Like you have to randomly get all of em and read it later

[gusty turret]

Its a form of spiritual transcendence

[deft bolt]

What's all this how deep are y'all in the lore

[gusty turret]

Thats just what transhumanism is philosophically

[deft bolt]

Ngl gang I only know island lore with a lil bit of se and abb lore

[gloomy trout]

english isnt game lore 😭

[gloomy trout]

no, no you dont

[gusty turret]

So you know like less than half of the lore but you're complaining about the writing😭

[deft bolt]

Hold on

Did y'all actually enjoy ark animated series?

[gloomy trout]

fuck no

[gusty turret]

I didn't watch it it seemed very not based in lore though

[gloomy trout]

animated series isnt ark lore either way lol

[deft bolt]

It was

[gloomy trout]

no, its its own thing

[deft bolt]

Dude it literally is

[gusty turret]

Cuz didn't someone get a tek bow randomly at some point i remember seeing that in one of the trailers💀

[deft bolt]

Like lost colony literally just used a clip for it for its trailer

[gloomy trout]

well, you can tell the devs that cause they have said it is

[gusty turret]

Bro might just be trolling atp

[deft bolt]

Its literally the same with island lore with nerva and rockwell and shi

[gusty turret]

Hes either trolling or like 11 and im not sure which

[gloomy trout]

both?

[deft bolt]

I swear I ain't rereading the ark notes and watching ark animated for yall

But I might

Can't argue with a dumb person ig

[gloomy trout]

bleh, no links

[gusty turret]

Ive read every single note personally 💀

I also have over 6000 hours in playtime so like... If there was an issue with the notes i feel like id know about it...

[gloomy trout]

"Another is that people are somewhat disappointed that it’s not a literal 1:1 of the Explorer Notes plot. " - Jeremy Stieglitz

[lusty mist]

Which parts arent?

[hard ingot]

All the events are messed up, Rockwell is straight up evil from the first episode, and Mei one shots the Broodmother with a spear. There's much more than that, but this is just off the top of my head.

[lusty mist]

I read Rockwell as evil from the notes but maybe i read too far into them.
But are these the only 2 deviations?

Ah ok
So its so far off the story that its no longer resulting in canon outcomes?

[hard ingot]

Rockwell wasn't evil from the start, he was kind of selfish, but he was a pretty good guy until he started messing with element. I don't know much about it since I haven't actually watched any of the episodes past 2, but I'm pretty sure the canon outcomes are going to be different.

[bold dove]

Which is why I don't really like TAS.
The current storyline in the notes, if just adapted like the Survival Stories, and with more plot in the between sections, isn't a bad plot.

[gusty turret]

Rockwell is a Victorian man he was definitely evil from the start just not element evil

[hard ingot]

I mean, Helena wouldn't be calling him a great friend and stuff if he was evil from the start.

[lusty mist]

I feel like hiding it from a positive person would be pretty easy.

[hard ingot]

I guess, though in the lost colony note he seems pretty remorseful.

[lusty mist]

I think he is more shocked at his physical transformation than expressing remorse. Just how I read it tho.

[hard ingot]

Idk I'm pretty sure he feels awful about what he did, though I definitely could be wrong.

[wet yew]

It’s based off the lore but it’s not canon

[main steppe]

It’s literally been called an alternate timeline to the games

And as for it “being a bad story because you don’t get the notes in order” they’re LITERALLY numbered, from #1 to whatever the final note is

If every game that had a somewhat harder to parse story than super Mario was considered bad, you could throw out the entirety of Fromsoft’s catalogue

[bold dove]

He wasn't evil. But he was always a bit egotistical.

But that comes with the territory of being a researcher/chemist.
He just allowed that ego to flourish under the influence of Element.

Which, while there's nothing to state it. I wouldn't be too surprised if Element influence is more of that, just influence, then a uncurable illness you have to follow.
Kind of like the logic plague from Halo, but applied to humans as well.

[gusty turret]

Helena is not the peak of intelligence im just gonna be real with you😭

[bold dove]

"Man, I can't believe this Island is artifical!"
-The fucking floating obelisks, and the obviously resurrected extinct animals.

[gusty turret]

Shes basically just autism incarnate she likes dinosaurs and creatures

We have gifted kid autism (santiago)
And heehee dinosaur special interest autism(helena)

[hard ingot]

Yeah, he defenitly had a superiority complex, I was just saying that at he was defenitly one of the better survivors. Not great, but also not really bad.

[rain dock]

He was British from the colonial era. And for tht era he was actually pretty tame.

[gusty turret]

Invalid argument he was British hes automatically evil

[golden pagoda]

Ok

[wet yew]

Ok

[pure cipher]

Do we have any clue who The Lost King is speaking to in the Lost Colony Expansion Pass trailer, from 5 months ago?

“I have seen your memories within the codex. You are a broken soul. You left behind those dearest to you. One murdered and watched another vanish into nothingness.”

[bold dove]

Probably Mei-Yin.
Diana, I assume with Rockwell back on Ab is the murdered.
And vanish into nothingness, is Helena ascending from the pod on Ext.

[pure cipher]

That would make sense since Helena vanished into “nothing” when she became a Homo-Deus. Supports the “Lost Queen” theory for Mei-Yin as well. I do think either Mei-Yin, Rockwell, or both will for certain be either in conflict or allied with the URE or Vampire faction (in the LC tek sword description, “the Lost”?), if not then in conflict between each other. From Mei-Yin as justice for the murder of Diana.

[north bear]

Isn’t Rockwell dead oh wait mbd it is before genesis 2

Or 1

[north bear]

Lost colony is a dlc to explain how we got to genesis after extinction

[north bear]

So Rockwell willl a 100% be here and I think it will be a boss

[north bear]

And then mei if she is still alive might be here but all the none lore knower will be who the hell Is she

So she might be here like maida in subnautica below zero

[pure cipher]

I think that’s a good comparison as Mei-Yin should be at Arat Prime before us, perhaps long before us.

[north bear]

I did the comparison because both have pet

[north bear]

But yeah I think she might give us like a quest and something interesting like mayda

[pure cipher]

I think at the most Mei-Yin will arrive at Arat Prime ~10 years before us, and will most likely be in conflict with either the URE or Vampires (the “Lost”?), similar to Maida and Alterra. We will be at Lost Colony at the same time as new Rockwell and Mei-Yin so there could possibly be in-game dialogue/interactions with their live characters. Separate from the explorer notes

[north bear]

Cool

[north bear]

New Rockwell?

Pre gen Rockwell?

[pure cipher]

Yes, the Rockwell we fight on Aberration isn’t the same Rockwell that’s on LC. If you read the LC Rockwell Note #1, Rockwell is shown to be delirious, not know who he is, or what is going on. Later in the note, Rockwell says “No Edmund you won’t die here. I won’t let you.” And this shows Rockwell has a split consciousness. This is all because of during the crash of Aberration from the reseed protocol, The Ab Rockwell made a clone of himself with his conscious (highly speculated but not confirmed) which made this new Rockwell, that we see here in the note. It would explain why he has faint visions of him being a monster, and we see that part of him when Rockwell gives up, but the “voice” stops him. In addition, since there is a new Rockwell on LC, it explains why the Rockwell we fight on Gen 2 has a much different appearance.

[north bear]

Ok tysm

[pure cipher]

I would recommend watching the video on the official ASA YouTube channel, titled “ARK: Lost Colony “Edmund Rockwell” Explorer Note Preview” and it would explain what I’m saying better.

[north bear]

Ok

[mental basin]

Mei arrives to Arat Prime centuries before us, and unless she found a way to keep herself alive, wink wink, she's long dead.

[pure cipher]

Interesting, I appreciate the correction. So, Rockwell should be the only one (in terms of Mei-Yin and Rockwell; past characters) alive during the time of which the Survivor reaches Arat Prime. Since post-Rockwell arrives on LC immediately after the reseed protocol. Is there a speculated or known time gap in between post-Extinction and the Survivor reaching Arat Prime? If not I assume that’ll be answered.

[mental basin]

Prolly a small gap for us to arrive there.

[compact zenith]

so interesting to read it all, cuz i cant remember dam lore

[surreal wing]

Is that mei yin next to the lost king in the new artwork?!? Wearing a mask too

[arctic bison]

and the aberration ark crash site on the top left

[surreal wing]

Yeaaaa

Rockwell nowhere to be seen, unless he's the one wearing the dark tek armor in front of the abb crashed ark

[arctic bison]

pretty sure that's just a giant statue

[compact zenith]

Just a statue

[surreal wing]

Ye now that ya'll mention it

XD

[arctic bison]

also new rockwell tentacle designs

[surreal wing]

Does this mean we getting a rockwell prime new design on gen 2?! ;0

[compact zenith]

Probably not

Devs gonna be too lazy

[surreal wing]

One can hope

[arctic bison]

what's wrong with his gen 2 design?

[surreal wing]

Nothing, just weird if we do get new tentacles, to then go back to the old ones after

[compact zenith]

I really enjoying using my 44 points in damage ossidon for killing wild Gigas and carchas now

[surreal wing]

Well that tentacle can always be smt different than rockwell i guess

[arctic bison]

this is a in between moment for Rockwell, so he likely made them as crude tentacles that would have to do for the time being before he got on the ship and remade the tentacles that seemed superior in his eyes

[surreal wing]

Tho taking a closer look they seem to be part of the "zombified" environment

2 more weeks and we find out

Where is bby girl diana tho D;

[compact zenith]

Corrupted ppl, almost like corrupted creatures on extinction

[arctic bison]

ngl Helena in the key art can get it

[surreal wing]

@snow seal show me the Diana vs Lost Queen Mei Yin cutscene NOW

[surreal wing]

Then we have goofy ahhhh Meeka

Prob gonna draw some stuff about arat prime too

[arctic bison]

i'm going to explode during the Helena cutscenes

[compact zenith]

Chinese dragon size pretty huge, like giga

[surreal wing]

I hope her face improves compared to the last time we saw her, she looks great in this new artwork at least

[surreal wing]

Indeed, looks fun to ride

[arctic bison]

anyway smash both. next topic

[surreal wing]

[arctic bison]

[compact zenith]

Just hope it's not too slow

[surreal wing]

Now, why is the Lost King so UGLY, I was expecting big bulky vampire man, not anemic king 😭

Especially with his voice from the trailer

Assuming that's him ofc, that character does have a lot of spotlight in that artwork

[compact zenith]

When I was experimenting with ossidons, their size change just a bit, almost undetectable, I was so sad about it. Like you can see difference between lvl 1 and lvl 1 +88 in HP, but it so small😭

[bold dove]

Not every vampire looks handsome or sexy.
Especially if we're to assume he's been around since the Element Wars.

[surreal wing]

At least his sexy voice remains

[bold dove]

TRUE!

Hang on actually, he reminds me of a vampire from another game.

The Nosferatu clan from Vampires: The Masquerade.

They're like even more fucked up Nosferatu designs.

The Lost King reminds me of an ARKified version of them.

[surreal wing]

:0

Maybe was some inspiration

[granite stump]

Damn that artwork looks great. But wtf is that on the veilwyn? That cursed little pink guy?

Reminds me of those cursed pink creatures from RE code Veronica

[surreal wing]

Noglin v2

We always get a lil mischievous silly creature with dlcs and I love it

Well, except gen1 I guess

[granite stump]

The albinoids that’s what those freaks from code Veronica are called. It reminds me of those freaks

[granite stump]

Well we did kinda have that, the little guys that are addicted to element

I forgot their name-

[surreal wing]

Oh yea the feroxs, forgor they from gen 1 XD

[granite stump]

Ferox that’s their name lol. God I’m forgetful tonight lol

I will say tho 2 day delay sucks but I’m all for this dlc now! Especially the eastern style dragon thing! That thing looks sick!

[main steppe]

Oh, that’s just Mr Billy

[granite stump]

I will say tho, I love the cover art! It genuinely looks like an all out war! Way more so then the extinction cover art

WAIT! You can actually see aberrations ruins in the cover art! At the top left!

[surreal wing]

I need a Mr Billy emote on this server

[surreal wing]

Bet most of Rockwell's notes will be around that place

Or rather, Edmund's notes

[granite stump]

Probably but then again the notes can just be anywhere

[surreal wing]

True

[granite stump]

So with how the cover art looks we can technically explore the ruins of aberration. The first technical time we are exploring an old map on a new dlc map if we exclude the simulation stuff in Gen 2-

[surreal wing]

Indeed

Maybe some abb creatures on lost colony because of it? O.o

[granite stump]

Possibly yeah! Rockdrakes, reapers, heck even aberrant creatures could exist here!

That’s however IF anything survived the crash

[surreal wing]

Reapers infused with red element

[granite stump]

They’re going above and beyond by the looks of it with this dlc and I’m already in love!

[strong heart]

Seems like Beast Queen has already made an appearance: we finally see what happened to Mei Yin.

[surreal wing]

After 6 years

Almost 7

[strong heart]

Most likely the new shoulder pet / noglin of lost colony .

[granite stump]

Actually yeah I just realized next to the main vampire guy there’s a secondary one that had a helmet on, that could be Mei yin as the lost queen

Also there’s a bat with a gun-

[subtle axle]

Asked a similar question in #ark-animated-series but do you think game Rockwell is capable of any redemption in a hypothetical universe where he was somehow turned back into a human after becoming a crazy monster

Because Helena talks about him as if he’s a misguided old guy who would never hurt anyone in his right mind

[granite stump]

Well we are technically seeing that happen in lost colony

Atleast a new Rockwell forming but he isn’t getting redeemed

Bros getting corrupted all over again

[subtle axle]

If Rockwell is on the lost colony I’m gonna kiss someone on the lips

[subtle axle]

WAIT HUH???

sorry I haven’t been keeping up with lost colony

What is the lore

[granite stump]

The aberration ark crashing caused overseer Rockwell to make a whole new Rockwell we all are dubbing as Edmund. This one is fresh and doesn’t fully recall much but overseer Rockwell put himself in the body of Edmund so now there’s 2 Rockwells in 1 body

[subtle axle]

So dementia arc

[placid parrot]

less dementia and more scizophrenia

[subtle axle]

Oh boy do I have drawing to get to

[compact zenith]

More like schizophrenia

[subtle axle]

Even better

Ts is gonna be so peak Rockwell is my muse

[granite stump]

On top of this poor Edmund is realizing what overseer Rockwell has done. All the murders and chaos he’s caused. Bro just wants to die but overseer Rockwell is forcing him to survive

[subtle axle]

Old man being tortured by the more evil version of himself

[granite stump]

Schizophrenia in a nutshell

[subtle axle]

Giggling and kicking my feet

Do we have an official design or render yet for him

Or is he just the show/game version

Or no design yet

[granite stump]

We got an actual note

[subtle axle]

AUGHH

Where can I find it

[granite stump]

I’ll send it to you in DMs

[subtle axle]

Yay

He is his own worst enemy 💔💔💔

Preparing my drawing tools like a soldier going to war

Can’t wait to draw Rockwell absolutely miserable in every aspect

[granite stump]

We got the name reveal of the little pink guy btw

It’s called the Gloon-

[subtle axle]

Wandering through a lonely wasteland, the sand scalding from the crash yet his body feeling so very cold. Curling up like a wounded animal under the melting frame of a kings former throne.

[granite stump]

Little fellas have laser eyes and seem to REALLY hate corruption since the new reveal shows one lasering a fricken Corrupted dodo

[subtle axle]

Sorry I love making little things for characters

Oh! What a beautiful name for such an interesting creature…

[granite stump]

They’re very frog like, I love them

[subtle axle]

I’m glooning it

Hehe

[sand hornet]

wTF Is THE 6 EYED REX THING I NEED IT

[granite stump]

6 eyed Rex? Uhhh you’re either looking at the Malwyn or the Ossidon

Probably the Malwyn

[sand hornet]

nah he reminds me of the prince of hell from doo the dark ages

[bold dove]

Oh yeah, Azerhak.

[sand hornet]

noo under the dang Malwyn

[bold dove]

?

[sand hornet]

guy with lost red eleent sword riding a six eyed re thing

[hard ingot]

Huh, looks like the aberration ruins have been built on? Wonder if there'll be a new tek armor type for the URE like the Federation armor.

[bold dove]

Yeah, you're saying they look like Prince Ahzrak from DOOM. No?

[sand hornet]

ontop of the 3 lost soldiers wearing red eleent aboev the solderis

fools look at the dang 6 eyed dino

[bold dove]

You good, man?

[sand hornet]

dms

look at what i sent in your direct messages

[gusty turret]

Two Rockwell's one middle aged British body

[strong heart]

It’s basically the beginnings of Rockwell Prime.

[subtle axle]

This sounds like the opening to an American reality tv show

“Two rockwells, one dying body of a man, who will take ultimate control and destroy the Arks???”

[hard ingot]

Remember, it's not confirmed yet. This could be the same Rockwell, just cleansed of Element by the reseed protocol.

[hidden fossil]

gloontastic

[arctic bison]

Oh I'm glooming it!
How evil!

[granite stump]

It’s definitely 2 Rockwells in a single body bro

Ones just ‘pure’ because it’s a replica of how Rockwell was before he injected himself with raw element. The overseer Rockwell just transferred himself into Edmund and is now residing within him. This in turn causes Edmund to see Rockwells memories about what he’s done and he believes he did it when in reality bro is just tainted with the memory of the other one

Not to mention, that explanation doesn’t make any sense at all since the aberration ark clearly couldn’t release the reseed pulse to cleanse the element from everywhere around arat prime. So no this is not that

[hard ingot]

Yeah I guess, I thought that was just a possibility.

[granite stump]

Not really when it’s like that

[bold dove]

It could also be the Element hivemind.
But I really doubt that, as they've never given it a character before.

I still think it'd be more narratively pleasing and complex (in a really good way) if it is two Rockwell's in one body. Gabriel style.

[gusty turret]

Tbh i think it takes away from Gabriel as a character because thats kinda like his thing

[bold dove]

His thing was shit

[gusty turret]

If its shit then why are we making Rockwell do it again

[bold dove]

Let me rephrase.
The way they wrote him was shit.
Really doubt they'll bother rewriting him, so this is their chance to redo that same concept, but actually good.

[granite stump]

I don’t think it encroaches much on Gabriel. Yes they both have a similar thing but with Rockwell and Edmund it’s legit the same person. With Gabriel he’s got a totally different person in there causing a whole separate issue in him unlike what Rockwell is doing to Edmund

[granite stump]

I’m fairly certain that is what’s going on here. I don’t see how else it’s going to be

Especially since I don’t think the raw element of aberration will have a voice let alone ever had an actual voice at all. We know it hummed and ‘sang’ to Rockwell but that’s more of a delusional craze he was going through to make himself assume he was getting connected to element in that way before injecting it into his system so if anything, I feel Rockwell is just in Edmund’s body as a parasite. This explains why Edmund didn’t have any recollection until it all hit him all at once and he assumed he caused a lot of death and disaster which if we are being technical, Edmund didn’t do anything but he couldn’t of known that

To add on as well, if it was the hive mind we would need Edmund to of established an unknown substance is all around him but there’s nothing but the wreckage of the ark. So I HIGHLY doubt it’s the hive mind of element causing him any influence since there’s also the need for him to be close to it like what Rockwell did in aberration

[dawn cove]

Is there any lore reason why the corruption on Extinction hasn't infected humans? Like I would expect there to be corrupted humans like what we see in Lost colony

Im not talking about humans that came down from the arks cuz for what I know only the main crew were the ones to go down there but I mean the people left behind.

[north bear]

They were killed i guess

There titan and Dino what did you expect

[main steppe]

It seems element wanted to specifically target and kill humans, because they would’ve been the only species able to strategically fight back against them

A trex isn’t going to be able to develop a strategy to fight against element, but a human? A human could.

[granite stump]

Technically in lore there have been infected humans we just don’t see that in gameplay due to WC not implementing them at the time

In lost colony we will be seeing corrupted humans as well with the last fragment of corruption on earth

[bold dove]

Corrupted creatures may have a lifespan, and by the time we reach Ext, everything living from our time period could've died and rotten away with Corruption.
Leaving only the creatures the Proto-ARK's have pumped out, or anything that has evolved alongside Element to survive by the time we reach Earth.

[tulip scaffold]

So whe know when the new dlc will play ? Between Extinction and genesis right ?

[kindred burrow]

Yes between exe and gen 1

[tulip scaffold]

And what is the story. What do we know

Why are there vampires

[bold dove]

Because, they look cool

[tulip scaffold]

Makes sense. And what’s the story explanation

[bold dove]

That they looked cool.

[hard ingot]

Pretty sure the story reason is that the vampire/bat like form is better suited to the endless night on the side of the planet Arat Prime is located on.

[compact zenith]

I wasn't deep in lore, where is arat prime located? One of the poles?

[lusty mist]

I believe its Antartica.

[bold dove]

We don't know.

We don't even have a definitive answer for where Sanctuary is taken place.

[hollow creek]

we just know they are on opposite end of the earth to each other

[strong scaffold]

Earth is tidally locked prior to the end of Extinction, so it could be pretty much anywhere on the dark side.

[main steppe]

And to my knowledge, we don’t know where sanctuary is, either, so they could be literally anywhere

[bold dove]

Yerp

[granite stump]

Presumably back during the time of the genesis ships launch from arat prime the lost king discovered cursed tek aka red element and it also triggered the outbreak of vampires aka the Thrall. This in turn made the lost king the leader of Arat prime for eons leading up to Mei yins arrival which he then corrupted her into becoming the lost queen

Cut to the ‘now’ after extinction and we likely catch wind of Rockwell surviving which we try and go stop him but we end up unearthing the nightmares of Arat prime

This is what I can kinda gather from what all we currently know thanks to the sanctuary texts in the city and the lost colony detail drops

As well as old notes such as Diana mentioning her and Mei are going to arat prime and want us to deal with the titans upon landfall on earth and afterwards to try and track them down potentially

However we don’t exactly know what happened to Diana, presumably she died for a second time after the notes and before Mei yins arrival to arat prime.

After all, the lost king mentions he seen Mei yins codex and mentions how she lost 2 friends, one vanishing (this is in reference to Helena) and the other murdered

We just don’t actually know who killed Diana. It was specifically a person since it’s mentioned as ‘murdered’ which implies someone killed her

[pure cipher]

That could just be referring to Rockwell on Aberration shortly after he injected his arm with element, when he murdered people in the community with Mei-Yin, Diana, Helena etc. As for the second time like you said we have no clue. But The Lost King could just be referring to Diana’s death on Aberration.

[granite stump]

Diana is clearly missing from Mei yins arrival to arat prime so this more implies she had a second death

[pure cipher]

Agreed, just saying right now we only know of her death on Ab. I expect we’ll be able to make the connection from Mei-Yins LC notes (assuming there are notes for her) to Diana’s second death that’s referenced by The Lost King.

[light slate]

Earth is tidally locked in the Ark lore, Arat Prime takes place on the permanently night side of the planet, so it’s denizens probably evolved traits similar to Vampires because of that

[light slate]

I think the Lost King is talking about when Diana was murdered by Rockwell on Ab

[pure cipher]

I think it could go either way. I think we should assume he’s talking about her death on Aberration, because of the actions Mei-Yin took to have justice of Diana’s death. With the information we currently have I think it’s safe to assume The Lost King is talking about Diana’s Ab death, but I expect we will find out what happened to Diana which confirms her second death and the cause for it. Either way, we know The Lost King is referencing Diana’s death (one of them, at least) because of Helena’s vanishing when she became a Homo-Deus.

[leaden plover]

So in the new dlc is it gonna be just a regular map with vampire shit and new explorer notes?

[pure cipher]

Looking forward to having the gaps in plot confirmed lol

[light slate]

Speaking of the Lost King, I am a bit iffy on how he looks so far, I wasn’t quite expecting him to look so much like a DOOM character. Maybe it’s his expression in the key art. His only voicelines so far involve him seemingly trying to break Mei Yin mentally, and I wasn’t expecting the man behind that voice to look like a DOOM character lol

[leaden plover]

Who tf is the lost king

Guys i didnt even watch the trailer for this dlc

I was too busy wanting to tame an archelon when the menu wanted me to watch it

[light slate]

Keith David’s character. The pre order teaser begins with him speaking to Mei Yin, but we don’t see him speaking to her.

“I have seen your memories within the codex, you are a broken soul. You left behind everyone dearest to you. One murderered, and watched another vanish into nothingness”

[leaden plover]

KEITH DAVID

buying the dlc as soon as I have money

[light slate]

The Lost King the demon looking guy on the right side of the castle in Lost Colony’s key art

[leaden plover]

And here I thought rockwell was gonna be the only big bad human

[north bear]

No

[north bear]

Have you ever looked at the lore

[light slate]

Nope. The devs have confirmed that Rockwell will not be the “main” encounter in Lost Colony. He very well could be AN encounter in the DLC but he won’t be the final boss

[north bear]

Of the island

[leaden plover]

Nerva doesn’t count

I mean that the player faces

[north bear]

We don’t see any other human

[pure cipher]

I think so too lol. Im curious to see how exactly Mei-Yin became “The Lost Queen”. If she was captured and that’s why The Lost King seems to be attempting to break her mentally, or some other way.

[north bear]

But elena

[leaden plover]

Okay humanoid, I’m referring to the lost king. I dont see why they’d make a model for someone who’s only lore relevant

[light slate]

Mei Yin was bitten by the gargoyle vampire thing in the Lost Colony teaser. Knowing how Vampires are depicted making more Vampires, Mei Yin was likely infected by the vampire bat thing.

[leaden plover]

Ok I needa watch this teaser

[light slate]

Yeah go do that

[leaden plover]

Uh

Why does rockwell have explorer notes for lost colony?

Oh wait nvm

He had to go to arat prime to get to the genesis ship didnt he

[light slate]

The working theory is that Ab boss fight Rockwell made a clone of himself before Aberration crashed on Earth.

[leaden plover]

Right I knew that

[light slate]

He might also have been respawned by the Ark, cleansing his body of the element, but still having fragments of his past self in his memory

We won’t know for sure until Lost Colony comes out

[leaden plover]

I doubt the element would have been removed from him considering it’s implied element was what made him the way he is by the end of the game in the first place

Like just the basic exposure to it sort of.

[light slate]

Yeah I’m more leaning towards the first theory that the legacy rockwell cloned himself before he died from the crash

[leaden plover]

Or maybe he didn’t even die from it

[light slate]

It’s implied that he does

[leaden plover]

By helena though

Who doesn’t seem to know shit half the time

[light slate]

And the fact that human Rockwell exists already suggests that Ab boss fight Rockwell knew he would die from the crash, hence creating a clone of himself with bits and pieces of memories from his past

[leaden plover]

Can we just commend the fact that i want to play through all the main maps to go through the story as the devs intended and am incapable of doing so without opening that blasphemous command console

[light slate]

This human Rockwell will most likely follow the same path his predecessor did, going mad from the nightmares of his past life and injecting himself with red element rather than the element from the ab red zone

[light slate]

Take your time, Ultimate Ark will take a long time either way

[leaden plover]

Can’t wait for ark to get a remaster every ten years

[light slate]

You can set rules and boundaries for yourself, you know. The settings exist for a reason too, sp settings also help a ton

[leaden plover]

2040: “the game is so realistic you can feel the dilophosaur chewing on your arm”

[leaden plover]

What gets me is I freak out when im about to lose a tame I really like

[light slate]

Snail already experimented with Ark in VR and that failed miserably lmao

[light slate]

Thats why you either don’t name your tames or always make sure you have a backup tame

[leaden plover]

“Ooh ho ho your blood stalker is about to get 2 shotted by an x raptor because the devs thought giving x creatures a 60% damage boost and 250% damage reduction was smart”

[light slate]

Don’t let your bloodstalker get in that situation in the first place, it’s a flippin dang bloodstalker

[leaden plover]

I needed hide 😭🙏

Bro was my first tame bc he was right by my house

[light slate]

I let myself transfer my Gigas and carchs from Extinction over to Gen1 so I never had an issue with hide 😁

[leaden plover]

I like the fresh start on each

[light slate]

I believe those tames are a MUST on Gen1 I refuse to use a boss fighting army for one Brute mission

[leaden plover]

I wanna give myself the rockwell on scorched earth treatment so that I too go insane

[light slate]

Same here but Gen 1 is a whole nother beast

[leaden plover]

Gen 1 strategy: all the magmasaurs

[light slate]

I’m looking forward to seeing how my 20 stack mutated Gigas, carchs and dreads preform on gen 1 😁

[leaden plover]

What I dont like about gen 1 is the fact that I WANT to progress the story after beating the master controller (aka Xx.Edmundium.xX) but its way smarter to try to get an astrocetus on gen 1- actually nevermind I just remembered my switch cant handle transferring astrocetus between maps

[light slate]

Nah don’t worry about astrocetus those are cool but functionally useless in singleplayer

[leaden plover]

Side rant if you want to crash your switch play gen 2

[light slate]

Trust me I experienced that on consoles before ASA was released. I think the Rhyniognatha being added had something to do with the crashes…

[leaden plover]

Gen 2 is just too big even for my oled

It crashes all the damn time

Ive tried multiplayer servers but I feel goofy because only two people are ever online on a switch gen 2 server at a time

[light slate]

Yeah definitely try to play on next gen consoles

[leaden plover]

Atp im just gonna buy a pc

[light slate]

Go big or go home if you want a PC for Ark lol

Especially if you wanna play ASA

[leaden plover]

Console issue is im blind and even on a big screen i find myself getting up and staring down my tv screen from 2 inches away tryna see if my arrows are tranqs or not

90% of the time I have my switch in handheld mode

[leaden plover]

Ase for now is more than enough, I have ASA on my ps5 and I barely play it

[light slate]

Valid for now

Wait what, sorry english

[granite stump]

That was presumably called a “Thrall”

[granite stump]

To give a likely full rundown of what all we know thus far

Sanctuary and arat prime were in contact with each other back before the genesis ships launch

The lost king likely discovered red element aka cursed tek and caused the thrall pandemic

Arat prime then launched the genesis ship to save as many people as possible from the cursed tek plague and the lost kings influence

Arat prime went silent and sanctuary soon followed (sanctuary lost everything during the titan upsurge)

Fast forward to Mei yin and Diana’s journey to Arat prime

Diana seemingly dies a second time so Mei is on her own and she has a run in with a “Thrall” (A vampire) and she eventually runs into the lost king himself at Arat prime.

The lost king manipulates Mei and causes her to join him as “The Lost Queen”

Later on the reseed protocol happens and aberration crash lands near Arat prime and ‘Edmund’ gets created by overseer Rockwell. Presumably he also jumps into Edmund’s body and acts as an inner thought to Edmund to make him do as he wishes. Aka Overseer Rockwell is taking control over Edmund slowly.

As for us, we likely catch wind of Rockwell surviving and we go hunt him down only to uncover the nightmares of arat prime like what Mei yin did

[tulip scaffold]

What is cursed element ?

[granite stump]

The red tek stuff we see in arat prime

It’s just normal element but red and presumably the cause for the thrall pandemic with what the lost king has become

[bold dove]

Well, I'd think the king would be causing the thralls. No?

[tulip scaffold]

How and why did the element turn red ? Is there a difference between the blue and red one ?

[main mural]

we don't know yet, but yes its definitely gonna be different

[granite stump]

That’s what I was insinuating with what I said

[main steppe]

I’m going to take a guess and say he turns his citizens into thralls as a punishment for insubordination

[granite stump]

I think it’s more of a willing thing. They wished to be turned to have eternal life

[hard ingot]

Are there going to be any new TEK/Mechanical creatures for LC?

[hollow creek]

doesn't seem like

[main steppe]

It seems like it’s more focused on the genetically engineered horrors of Arat Prime

And the G L O O N

[vagrant pendant]

Are their any good ark lore vids on youtube cuz for me lore is one of the most impactful aspects of a game

[pure cipher]

@vagrant pendant Stel has good videos for the lore, most of which are on the latter part of the lore. NeddyTheNoodle has them as well, just from a few years back if you’re looking for the complete lore.

[gusty turret]

If all else fails, the wiki has all of them for every character and you can just sit and read through them all

[mental basin]

Check me out on the 'Tube

[light slate]

It’s criminal that you aren’t very big on youtube

[mental basin]

Not yet

[light slate]

That’s the spirit 🔥

I remember witnessing Raasclark’s rise to fame, you got this dude

[mental basin]

Lmaooo I remember watching Raas during Gen 2 days

[pure cipher]

Speaking of, Raasclark recently posted a video that explains the lore that will help you better understand LC when it releases

[subtle axle]

Alright guys

What do we think element tastes like

Aside from molten metal

Like imagine your biting into a small little shard of raw element

[granite stump]

Definitely ain’t edible

[subtle axle]

Well yeah but everything is edible the first time

But for those two seconds where you aren’t choking on your own blood

[mental basin]

A shard of RAW Element?

Probably like instant mutation. If raw Element enters your bloodstream directly, it'll cause you to hulk out.

This is something doubled-down on in Genesis 2, where Nida flips out after finding out Gabriel had a shard of raw Element on him, panickedly asking if he had accidently cut himself with it.

Now refined Element? Either insanely sweet, or insanely metallic. Refined Element is edible, as Element Dust can be used in custom recipes, n I'm pretty sure whole Element was used in Augmented Kibble back when that was a thing.

It'd also vibrate in your mouth a bit, and it's apparently warm to the touch.

[subtle axle]

Element got that parking lot penny taste to it

I can see it being kinda sweet

Not like in a sugary way but in a tangy metal way

Rockwell should have just refined the element now he can eat and snort as much as he wanted with probably minimal nosebleeds

Hopefully

[main steppe]

I think it tastes like light blue Gatorade

[gusty turret]

Pure radiation

We know in its raw state its extremely radioactive from Abb

Given there seems to be a rock version and an organic version so

Organic version seems like itd be like if styrofoam was metal

[bold dove]

Metalic

[woeful hazel]

Who is Darius, was just checking my notes page and it seems they added a new person, he apparently wrote the Ossidon dossier

[north bear]

Isn’t he the spartan?

The one that got killed by Mai ling

[north bear]

Electric

[mental basin]

Mai Ling 😭

[woeful hazel]

Nah that’s Nerva

[north bear]

Oh ok

[north bear]

A new guy I guess

[north bear]

Also extinction(sauropod Godzilla breath)

[sand hornet]

no that was somebody else

[north bear]

Yeah it is nerva

[night quartz]

More like Perva

[hard ingot]

What if Rockwell is the guy riding the Solywyn in the LC keyart? I mean, didn't Dollie say it was a "Where's Wallace" situation? And he has glasses.

[mental basin]

Hm

[mental basin]

He's at the top left lmao

You can see his eye on Aberration's wreckage

[gusty turret]

I think its the weird purple guy in the bottom left

[hard ingot]

Where? I can't find it.

[mental basin]

Again, on the wreckage

His eye, his biomass, like in Gen 2

Very top left

[hard ingot]

Like all the purple and brown goop on the Aberration wreckage?

[gusty turret]

That might just be where he splatted on impact

[granite stump]

Why would he end up on the surface like that?

[placid ember]

I wonder if Lost Colony in game will be always night. Hence earth is gravitationaly locked according to lore.

[gusty turret]

The earth untidally locked when the reseed protocol happened

Slight problem being the moon is destroyed so it'll just retidally lock but

[granite stump]

We aren’t actually sure if it did or didn’t, seeing as how the moon is still broken and is on the opposite side still I would imagine it actually is still locked

[gusty turret]

We actively watch the sun move in the ending cutscene we've had this discussion before

And Helena comments on it

[granite stump]

Yes however that doesn’t exactly mean it’s still moving since you know, the sun was on that side of the planet

That and we can’t exactly trust that ending cutscene anymore due to the weird stuff going on

[gusty turret]

As far as we have confirmed in lore, the Earth is untidally locked at the end of extinction, it rotated, the lock was broken, we have no information on any retcons or changes being made so to our current extent of the lore, the Earth is rotating

[granite stump]

The info we do know is the moon is in fact stuck on the arat prime side of the planet… as seen with MULTIPLE reveals. Even the cover art and the first reveal trailer for lost colony revealed the broken moon on that side of the planet

[mental basin]

I made a theory video about this but

It could be that de Lost King froze it in place somehow

[granite stump]

It’s a possibility

[gusty turret]

Okay? That doesn't change the established lore that the earth unlocked and made at least one full rotation in the extinction ending cutscene since we got to see the sunrise

[mental basin]

Yeah no I agree with you

I'm just saying that might be an explanation as to why we see the moon the way it is

We can see the day cycle to the left of the LC keyart

[gusty turret]

Indeed

[compact zenith]

Can it be just slow planet rotation, but moon have exact speed to be at same place in sky?

[granite stump]

Remember this was back when they still haven’t exactly established how arat primes stuff and the moon was gonna be so the cutscene is kinda ‘loose’ here. The planet likely is on rotation but the moon is likely either stuck to that side of the planet and is somehow rotating with that side or the cutscene just can’t be trusted anymore and the sun was just kinda always on that side

[mental basin]

The Earth is orbiting point blank bsf

[gusty turret]

I don't care what they haven't established thats the point of what we know in the lore right now💀

[mental basin]

That was a huge motivator for Helena lol

[gusty turret]

They also haven't established that rockwell likes boys so maybe thats true maybe we'll get yaoi in lc

[mental basin]

Yaoiwell

[gusty turret]

What might or might not change about the lore when lost colony comes out has no impact on the current lore because it isn't out yet

We know Nerva liked boys

Hes Roman so that's just par for the course

[gusty turret]

Oh hell yeah baddie

[night quartz]

Nerv the Perv

[gusty turret]

Perv the Nerv

[placid ember]

Maybe the day cycles are messed up on earth after extinction. Similar to Aberration cycles.

Some days are darker for longer and vice versa

[granite stump]

I had a interesting thought actually if the planet is on rotation but the moon is stuck against the point of arat prime, perhaps theres also a mechanic involving the solar eclipse which in turn causes the vampires to be even more hostile, akin to a potential blood moon event in certain zombie games or in that one zombie mod in Asa

[placid ember]

Yes I was about to write that (in other words)

[granite stump]

After all, back in ASE with what Nanos mentioned, extinction did have solar eclipses to an extent that rarely happened, maybe in lost colony they can have a unique effect

[placid ember]

Yea blood moon like 7 days to die

[placid ember]

Yes. I picture something like that every so often...the dark stuff arises.

[gusty turret]

They're 1000% extremely messed up, the sun set and rose in like a 2 minute timeframe in the cutscene, its likely spinning extremely fast but is gonna slow down as the earth begins to relock unless something new begins orbiting to fix it permanently

[pure cipher]

||Thoughts on the gigadesperus and Lost King leaks?

Curious and excited to see how the animated/cutscene notes and such will look on LC.||

[granite stump]

||The heck’s a gigadesperus?||

[lusty mist]

Wheres this leak?

[pure cipher]

||It’s the giant bat creature, in the key art it’s shown with a saddle in the top right. Supposedly it was leaked through an unlisted video. Looks to be legit. ||

[granite stump]

Found it! lol

[lusty mist]

Dm plz and ty

[granite stump]

Legit opened Reddit and it just popped up

[lusty mist]

Looking for a link

[pure cipher]

Where I found it was on Raasclarks YT page, but I’m positive there’s more and more places multiplying where you’ll find it

[granite stump]

Sent it over

[lusty mist]

Please

[granite stump]

Turns out the ark ascended team sent it as well-

[lusty mist]

Oooo

[granite stump]

||Guess we got the name for that big cursed bat thing on the top right of the main poster||

[flat blaze]

Unlikely but maybe the leaked bat is a failed version of manticore due to the horns and the ossodon is a faked megapithicus and they were both made cause arat prime is the birthplace of the arks

[granite stump]

High doubt on that one due to how different the two look

[pure cipher]

||Just found the leaked trailer on Reddit lol, do we think the gigadesperus could be similar to the ossidon, in terms of how The Lost King utilizes it to defend the city/used in war or he just has a gigadesperus as his personal ride. I mention the second theory only because of how he spoke to it.||

[granite stump]

||I suspect it’s his personal mount and there’s likely only one of its kind||

[pure cipher]

||That would make sense as we only see one in the key art too. I assume we’ll get more information either on Friday, or this trailer is what will release in the CC on Friday maybe. Perhaps it’s used in the boss fight with him, assuming he’s the main boss of the map.||

||I take that back about the CC, since it says “available now”.||

[flat blaze]

Do you think we’ll have some sort of water related weather effects like tsunamis or floods due to the moon being locked

[granite stump]

Unlikely, but it is a good point to make since the moon is locked on that side of the planet, it may mean we have large frozen lakes around the map possibly

[fallow sapphire]

i feel like odds are fairly high on that, very cold oriented map

[north bear]

I think it will be half cold half hot

[gusty turret]

Thats like every ark map ever

[north bear]

Scorched earth

Isn’t

[gusty turret]

Night time

[north bear]

Wdym?

[gusty turret]

Scorched earth is full hot during the day and full cold during the night thats its half half split

[north bear]

Good play

[north bear]

Aquatica

[main mural]

not a lore map and not wildcard

[north bear]

He said every map ever @main mural

[gusty turret]

We don't talk about aquatica its a stain on general existence

[main mural]

I'm sure it also has hot and cold on the map lol. temperature differences are simple environment stuff.

[fallow sapphire]

as someone who has never touched it and never will, i would also make that assumption

[night quartz]

Nah Aquatica is good bro its the best dlc map
||I never even downloaded it in the first place||

[main steppe]

I’ll give it this: Studio Sirens did the best with the hand they were dealt. No shade towards them.

[granite stump]

Yeah no issues with studio sirens. Just sad they’re getting screwed by snail

[north bear]

To be frank aquatica ascended might be fun to see

[placid ember]

Aquatica is bad, the suposed unique creatures are badly modeled (pretty much everything is badly modeled Aquatica related), the map itself is just a bunch of previous maps assets slapped and glued together, runs like crap, more crap than the usual crap lol. The ideia is cool, Id like to see a more aquatic focused map properly made, as a huge subnautica fan that would be epic...(yea i was one of those that bought it, and went around long enough to not be able to refund it anymore, stupid 2h steam policy, 2h in a game like ark is absolutly nothing)

[placid parrot]

whats yall takes on the gloons somehow being related to corrupted element?

when looking at the gloons in the art, I want to point out how each color also has different colored element infusions that match the color of the eyes

which is what leads me to this thought process

[kindred burrow]

Possuble or faled Experiments of tryibg to synthezise red ele or even combinibg those 2

[north bear]

Combining is the purple one

[north bear]

Yellow is idk

[north bear]

Maybe blue is a lil bit of element

[north bear]

Maybe Ferrox 2.0

Yellow normal color

Maybe a red color

And blue is blue element color

[north bear]

This is logical

Basically if you look in the image for lc you see in the middle purple and red+blue=purple

[north bear]

Coming back to this

Maybe each do different effects