lore-nerdz

[arctic bison]

yup

[bronze turtle]

How did helena or someone find out about the overseers control?

[bold dove]

Control in what way?

Them controlling the ARK's, or the control panels?

[bronze turtle]

Like controlling the arks, as redgear mentioned them making wyverns

[fallow sapphire]

Well not everything is in the notes, but somethings kinda just come by logic. Like as the overseer of the island was in control of it all, so was the scorched overseer. And the overseer is the only one with the power to add new species to an ark (in lore), meaning it added wyverns to stop the people

[bold dove]

She found out at the end of The Island notes that something was controlling the environments.
But before she ascended, no. She never knew what an overseer was.

[lean bobcat]

Oh damn good point, that's just mean :')

[pseudo nimbus]

@bronze turtle why are you against transferring

[bronze turtle]

Cuz that shit boring, its way more fun and challenging to play with the resources you have on the map itself

[pseudo nimbus]

Have you ever played official

[bronze turtle]

I did

Its hell out there if you dont transfer

[solemn fulcrum]

How did Edmund Rockwell monstrous creature he did?

[bold dove]

Plant type?

He's more of a calamari monster.

[solemn fulcrum]

I was thinking of Gen2

[bold dove]

But he became that by injecting element into his veins.

[solemn fulcrum]

bozo

[bold dove]

I don't know man.
Seeing what he's able to do, seems pretty poggers

[solemn fulcrum]

Depends whether or not he could use a tek suit and power it himself, if so, then it's poggers

[bold dove]

Probably could if he had a XXXXXXL sized tek-suit

[rain dock]

He basically made an entire spaceship into his personal tek suit

[bold dove]

True

[solemn fulcrum]

and still lost cough cough

[bold dove]

He just wasn't chad enough

[solemn fulcrum]

he didn't have enough element smh

he got beat by a 2ft droid

[bold dove]

To be fair, also a 7Ft tall unhumanly jacked abomination that was in a mek with a army of creatures

[solemn fulcrum]

ok, maybe that played a part

but he should've just done better smh

[bold dove]

True

Should've just 'got gud'

[solemn fulcrum]

fr

[solemn flame]

Who is it that Edmund is referring also wanted power in the gen2 end scene?

[quaint marsh]

And in some cases a 4ft unhumanely jacked abomination with arms almost as long as their body

[rain dock]

If Bob in the animated series isn't really short, with giant hands at his feet I am going to be disappointed 😂

[bold dove]

Well, you're going to be then, since we already seen his character

[bold dove]

Helena

[brazen sparrow]

Falsely accusing Helena of wanting the power of element, because he's paranoid

[rain dock]

I have only seen his head, did they release a full body and I just missed it?

[brazen sparrow]

Yes

[bold dove]

A long time ago

[bold dove]

He's the default survivor

[plain plover]

I imagine in his escapades bob will encouter the mutant bobs

[lean island]

can somebody explain the ark lore to me?

[glad crow]

Do you want to read the wiki, which contains the notes, or do you want a condensed version that will fail to do justice to this beautifully intricate story?

[lean bobcat]

that ^

I'm down to (attempt to) summarize it but reading the explorer notes (there's a link to them in chronological order in the pinned messages of this channel) will really help you appreciate the story. The devs did a really good job of making it slowly progress to make the character development seem natural, plus it's very well written

[bronze turtle]

explain pls

[lean bobcat]

oh boy time to try and sum all that up

[bronze turtle]

i havent played ark in 2 years

last i played that came out was crystal wyvern place i think

i just got it back

[lean bobcat]

The story starts with a bunch of tribes on the island, but Edmund Rockwell (a 19th century London chemist), Helena (an australian biologist from the present day), and Mei-Yin (an ancient chinese warrior) are the main characters. Helena and Rockwell are good friends trying to work out the mystery of where they are, with Rockwell being well-respected across the whole island because of the different tonics and 'potions' he's created. Mei-Yin tames a bunch of dinosaurs, earning herself the title of "Beast Queen". Helena meets Mei-Yin when she goes to study her dinosaurs, they become friends, and Rockwell discovers an artifact that he thinks has something to do with the obelisks. He convinces the "Iron Brotherhood" tribe to find the other three artifacts and activate one of the obelisks to fight the Broodmother, and they succeed, though at a heavy toll. Meanwhile, a powerful tribe called the New Legion, led by Nerva, is forming and slowly taking over the island. Helena figures out that there must be more artifacts to activate the other obelisks, so she takes Mei-Yin to fight the Megapithicus. They win, but many of Mei-Yins dinosaurs are killed and the New Legion ambushes them right after the fight, taking Helena prisoner and forcing Mei-Yin to flee. Rockwell hears that Helena was working with Mei-Yin, who he considers a barbarian, and is convinced that she was trying to escape the island and leave him behind. Helena tells the New Legion about the other obelisks, they fight the dragon and the overseer, yada yada they all escape the island and Mei-Yin kills Nerva.

In Scorched Earth, there's a whole side story with a girl called Raia and a guy who she falls in love with, John. Their whole village ends up being destroyed by wyverns, who also kill John. Helena and Rockwell then both arrive on the ARK, but seperately- they aren't aware that they both landed on the same ARK. Rockwell becomes obsessed with a material called element, and is super paranoid and thinks Helena wants to steal it from him. This message is already super long, but the jist of Scorched's lore is that Rockwell is slowly descending into madness because of the element, Helena discovers more about the ARKs (such as the fact that they're a bunch of floating 'islands' orbiting Earth, with an unknown purpose for her), and Mei-Yin is on a different ARK entirely. Eventually Rockwell and Helena escape the ARK together and get teleported to Aberration, but not before Rockwell secretly poisons and kills the tribe that killed the Manticore for him.

Aberration's lore is my favorite, if you like the story I'd highly recommend reading the notes but I'm just going to oversimplify it. Before Helena and Rockwell arrived on Aberration, it was inhabited by highly-advanced people who came up with tek gear and such. The main characters from this group are Diana and Santiago, who lead the group in creating a nuclear bomb to completely obliterate the overseer of the ARK. This has unforeseen consequences, however, and the ARK begins to self-destruct, forcing the tek civilization to move into a massive underground cave because the surface now lights on fire during the day. Then Mei-Yin arrives after killing Nerva, and she falls in love with Diana. Helena and Rockwell are next to arrive, and Rockwell's sanity deteriorates more and more, unbeknownst to anyone else. After they join the tek civilization, Rockwell spends nearly all of his time running experiments on element and becomes resentful toward the members of the tek civilization for being condescending toward him. Helena, Santiago, and Mei-Yin then go on a mission to stop the obelisks from self-destructing any further, and on the way they discover that the humans on the ARK are essentially artificial copies of people who once lived in the past. When they save the day by stopping the obelisks, they return home to be greeted by utter destruction.

Everyone in the civilization is dead except for Diana, who dies in Mei-Yins arms after telling her who did this: Rockwell. Mei-Yin, Santiago and Helena go to fight the now-mutated Rockwell, who had injected himself with molten element. They defeat him, and then go to activate a secret project that the tek civilization had been working on: the Gateway Project, which would bring them back down to Earth.

‎
I'm a bit rusty on Extinction's lore, and I won't go into Genesis because I haven't read that far, but in Extinction the group discovers that Earth has been corrupted by element due to a war in the past using element-fueled weapons, and there are no survivors except for them. The ARKs were created to protect humans from the corruption, and once the titans are gone, they'll return to Earth and cleanse the remaining element from the ground. Santiago invents 'meks', huge robots that obey whoever is piloting them, and if four meks join together then they form a 'mega mek' which is even more powerful, but requires four pilots. Eventually they're attacked by Titans (kaiju-inspired monsters that are the main things keeping Earth corrupted) and Santiago sacrifices himself and his mek so that the others can escape. They discover a signal coming from a strange building that they suspect may provide some answers, and go to investigate. Inside there's a strange, glowing yellow diamond that perfectly fits the implant in the survivors' arms. When Helena touches it, she has a strange reaction with it, seeing visions. Mei-Yin takes the gem of light from her, since it only has this effect on Helena, nobody else. The titans are continuing to chase the survivors, and when they finally catch up, Helena steals the gem from Mei-Yin and puts it into the implant in her arm. This causes the titans to be dazed and Mei-Yin and Helena are able to escape. Helena is now unconscious most of the time, stuck with recurring visions of herself climbing a ladder and of the "Tomb of Ascension". She tells Mei-Yin to take her there and gives her directions, so she does, putting Helena in the tomb despite her better judgement. The titans, again, are on their tail. After battling with them, Mei-Yin is forced to retreat back to the tomb just in time to see Helena dissolve into light. Little does she know, Helena has "ascended", and resurrects Diana to help Mei-Yin. Despite the mega mek being designed to be piloted by four pilots, Diana and Mei-Yin manage to assemble one and pilot it with just the two of them, carving an "X" into the King Titan's chest and escaping to follow the guide of Helena's disembodied voice (although they don't know that it's her).

aaand I spent half an hour writing this, please read it lmao- believe it or not this is the SUPER short version and I skipped a lot of the lesser details. Highly recommend reading the links in the pinned messages if you like the jist of the story and want to know more @bronze turtle @lean island

[glad crow]

That was genuinely one of the best summaries I've read.

[lean bobcat]

Ty it took way too long to write lmao

OH and also Rockwell commits several murders in Scorched further emphasizing the fact that he's going ✨ crazy ✨ - he poisons the entire tribe that defeated the Manticore for him so that he could escape from them and steal the artifacts

I kinda skipped a lot of scorched's lore because it's not super important to the main story

[lean bobcat]

just added this detail to the summary

[bronze turtle]

wow

isnt helena that little robot also

[wary ruin]

No, that’s HLNA

Was created by Helena and has a part of her in it

[bold dove]

Yes and No

Helena later on ascends to a godhood like state and creates HLN-A. Which has her personality from before she turned into a godlike being, but they're by the end of the day, two separate beings.

Which is why i cringe whenever people call HLN-A 'Helena'
'cough' 'cough' Syntac.

She literally tells you how to pronounce her name in the first 5 seconds of Genesis-1.

[real cairn]

At what speed does the starship travel?

[bold dove]

Fast

[real cairn]

So fast but not enough to travel and the speed of light?

[lean bobcat]

What Pogstone said ^^ Probably should have specified what 'ascended' means in my summary- it means that she essentially became a god-like figure, which is how she was able to resurrect Diana and create HLNA to help guide the player and protect them from Rockwell

[real cairn]

Good, I already wanted to destroy wildcard for such stupidity

Thanks for the info

[bold dove]

Pretty sure it 'is' traveling the speed of light

It takes only a 4 hours to get from another solar-system across the Galaxy.

That's pretty on par to the speed of light.

[real cairn]

It is impossible such thing, because they would've traveled with stopped time and they wouldn't exist in the world because their mass would've been 0

Maybe 97% would be fair

[bold dove]

You act like unrealistic stuff isn't the point of ARK's lore.

[real cairn]

That way they might be a spaghetti like thing, but people and creatures won't feel any changes, same with time

[real cairn]

But at least they should follow the basics

I'm pretty ok with having turbo cats and spiderman from 2018

[lean bobcat]

i dunno im not a rocket scientist i just say "haha genesis ship go brr"

[bold dove]

When they have a new element that breaks other known laws of reality, the speed of light is by far the least concerning thing.

[real cairn]

Nah, imo it is still 97% speed of light I'm pretty sure with that

It just can't go 100 or beyond

[bold dove]

Sure, think whatever you want in a world that has already broken all fundamental laws of what we know of our reality.

[real cairn]

Because space and time are relative, and sadly because of that, you can't get 100% of the speed of light

[real cairn]

Ok

[bold dove]

Element doesn't care what relative and time is.
It does what element wants.
It needs no man to tell it what to do.

[lean bobcat]

lmao

[real cairn]

I'm pretty sure even element follows some laws, with you can use in your benefit, but that's beyond everything

As I said, even if it goes at the same speed as the speed of light, we would've been doomed

[bold dove]

So, the reasoning why speed of light travel is impossible is due to it needing infinite energy, right?

[real cairn]

Not only that

[bold dove]

More or less.

[real cairn]

It's because time would've been stopped

And because your volumen would be 0

[brazen sparrow]

Yet... wormholes exist

[bold dove]

Okay, so actually, the Genesis-ship ironically moves faster then light.

[real cairn]

They are hypothetical

[real cairn]

Bruh?

[bold dove]

Black Holes where hypothetical at one point

[brazen sparrow]

How? This makes no sense

[bold dove]

Light would take 4.5 years to go from Earth to Alpha centauri.
It takes only 4-hours to go across the Galaxy for the Genesis-ship.

[brazen sparrow]

That's not how it works, really at all

[real cairn]

Literally said that the time stops and we would have 0 volumen

[brazen sparrow]

Not how it works

[real cairn]

The faster you go the slower is time

It's the law

[brazen sparrow]

Nope, still not how it works

[real cairn]

Would you consider me telling how it actually works then?

[bold dove]

No offense, but maybe instead of saying 'no that's not how it works' maybe you could explain?

[real cairn]

Well going faster than Light makes it even more impossible, because then you would good into negative numbers, with is impossible under any sircumstances

[bold dove]

Element

[real cairn]

But you know what, you're right, element is high af so let's just leave him alone

[bold dove]

@brazen sparrow You gonna explain?

[real cairn]

He probably just tried to Google it

And found out the truth, or kept doing what he was doing

[jovial warren]

Why are you guys trying to find realism in a game where there robot dinosaurs on a space station

[real cairn]

Yet 4 hours to go across galaxy 💀, now I understand why rockwell was so obsessed with it

[bold dove]

Who's 'guys' only Chotter is trying to.

[real cairn]

That at least makes sence and it can be made (at some point) in real life, tho it would take way more time

[waxen flame]

[real cairn]

I'm just trying to check if wildcard actually studied the topic of science

[bold dove]

Don't need to when you have a law defying substance.

[brazen sparrow]

Time is relative; if you were to live on Mars, let's say, you would not be in the same "present" per se as those back on Earth. Faster than light travel follows the same principle, and just makes you move to a place faster than time can effect. You aren't slowing down time around you; you are travelling outside of time. Therefore, if we could travel FTL, there would be some kind of way invented at that point to negate space taking it's toll on us (or maybe it just wouldn't effect us, who knows? But in most media and even scientific models, we don't just die for moving at FTL, unless we're like not inside a spaceship lol.)

Sorry for the wait, was playing a match of Hunt

[real cairn]

Yes we don't die, but still traveling at speed of light negates all rules of physics, it is impossible to stop time nor have 0 volume, and even if you go beyond the limit it's even more impossible

Because then, you would go past in time

Yes, we wouldn't feel anything changing

But outside our view it actually does

[brazen sparrow]

Well, then have fun living on the planet of the apes I guess lmao

[real cairn]

What's so wrong living in here

And you can still travel trough space

[brazen sparrow]

I described it and you just repeated the same thing you've been saying, so idk what to do at this point

[real cairn]

Tho it'll take more time

[real cairn]

Yes time is relative, but I repeat the same thing because it's logical and described by scientists?

Time and space are connected

Basically the momentum bends space&time causing the time to go slower

[brazen sparrow]

Except it's not, if we invent FTL travel there will be an explanation and/or safety measures to avoid the issues you speak of entirely. Time and space are simply not connected in the way you think they are

[real cairn]

Yeah ofc, we Will do everything to bypass even the forbidden laws even if it's impossible

[brazen sparrow]

Nothing is impossible 😉

[real cairn]

Could you back it up with a source?

[waxen flame]

Source: dude trust me

[real cairn]

So you can't? That makes your opinion invalid

[brazen sparrow]

Back up nothing being impossible... with a source???? You are hilarious

[lean bobcat]

Honestly I feel like this could just go around in circles because we don't really know for sure what would happen if we went faster than light. We can't go that fast right now. If we ever get to a point where we actually could, then it's entirely possible that we will have discovered some principle/law that we have no idea exists right now

[real cairn]

We can't but there are calculations

[brazen sparrow]

There are theories, just like the black holes were. I don't needa prove shit 🤷‍♂️

[real cairn]

Check the Einstein law of relativity, really interesting thing

[real cairn]

You do, if you don't then your opinion is invalid, at least some type of math or calculations to prove your words. It's like saying "an onion can actually be used as an railgun weapon" but when they ask you for source you just answer "I don't needa prove shit 🤷‍♂️"

[brazen sparrow]

I haven't seen you post a source for anything, but I'm not complaining...

[real cairn]

@brazen sparrow check dm's

[bold dove]

[real cairn]

I'm pretty sure I gave him enough source to read

[brazen sparrow]

Ok, sorry for the wait, long match

But to retort

h ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive

(Obviously, remove the space between h and ttps)

[bold dove]

Should probably tag them

They might not be here anymore

[brazen sparrow]

They'll see it when they check back, I'm not in a rush, I got matches to play lol

To be fair, there's another drive that is more likely to do FTL travel how most people perceive FTL travel, called a gravity drive

[bold dove]

@real cairn

[brazen sparrow]

But that's more point-to-point and utilizes wormholes, which is most media's form of FTL travel

[real cairn]

"The proposed mechanism of the Alcubierre drive implies a negative energy density and therefore requires exotic matter or manipulation of dark energy."

The same wiki page you showed me says "construction of such drive is not necessary possible"

With our current knowledge of dark matter "with is almost 0" we cannot achieve such technology and cannot say for sure if it's true

And if it'll work

From now on we both talk about speculations

So both of us can be wrong or right

[brazen sparrow]

Just because it's not possible YET (emphasis on the yet) because we haven't found an energy source to do so doesn't mean it's impossible, not possible yet does not equal impossible

[real cairn]

If it's not possible yet could also mean that after we learn more it's discovered that we "can't" use it

So as I said we should just wait 20000000000 years and check how's it going

🤝

[forest light]

anyone got a link for the complete lore kinda? as far is ive understood Overseer is some kind of watcher and ha controlls the different island and youre a test subject. i think that eventually rockwell takes over and corrupts things?

is there any backstory about a potential real world? who is rockwell and did rockwell kill the overseer?

is there a good website for lore?

[rigid palm]

@forest light

For the complete list of explorer notes just check the pins

[lean bobcat]

^^

There's also a more in-depth explanation in the pins as well

I recommend these if you want a more in-depth explanation but you don't want to read all the notes; https://www.reddit.com/r/playark/comments/cmf0xa/everything_you_need_to_know_about_arks_story/

@forest light

[topaz bramble]

any plans for trans people in ark 2? or are there any trans in ark 1

[brazen sparrow]

I do hope there is something more inclusive than just "male/female" in the character creator, if only to upset the bigots like the one above 😁

[plain plover]

..... 😕 ...
no, I don't think so. just considering the lore. It doesn't really make sense to have people who can't reproduce from the point they are cloned be what's supposed to repopulate humanity. Maybe in other points of time, but from the setting of ARK 2 I doubt it.

[bold dove]

There's a lesbian couple, or two if you include TAS

[plain plover]

that's not really the same thing

[bold dove]

Wasn't talking to you.

But yeah, you're right.

[bold dove]

Also, if we're talking about 'people who'd be good to kickstart humanity again'
Why would Santiago be there?
The guy only made tek-based technology. Which is a whole different league then Unga-Bunga technology.
Would he not be basically useless, since he's refusing to recreate tek-based technology?

[plain plover]

I feel the evil maxing intrusive thoughts corrupting my fingers, they yearn to get political and make raw yet true statements

If we consider what the Final result of the Genesis prject was supposed to be, humans were supposed to have all their tek stuff, but the ship blew up and that didn't happen.

[bold dove]

Right.
And so it was expected for them to get a headstart, no?

[plain plover]

Yes

that's why Santiago is there

[bold dove]

So......why wouldn't trans people be allowed on the ships database?
Thing is also, if we're talking post-surgery trans people. They'd be a woman or a man then.
And unless it was an oversight, or the Terran Federations where just asses. They'd be created with said reproductive organ, no?

[plain plover]

and they wouldn't be trans

[bold dove]

To them, with their implanted memories though. They would.
They wouldn't know it until they get down and dirty.

[plain plover]

do you think people who lost limbs had them returned when they were revived

[bold dove]

Don't see why not, cause it'd be a lot more work to take someone out of the test-tubes and cut off said limb while they're still asleep.

[plain plover]

Do you think mental illness is cured when someone is cloned

[bold dove]

Depends on which one.
If it's one that's caused by physical issues with the brain, then yes.
If it's purely mental though, then no.

We've also already established that this is Wildcard world.
If they want trans-people in ARK-2. They'll add trans-people, and don't need to give a reasoning other then 'we can.'

[jovial warren]

Doesn't this count as politics

[bold dove]

Ye

[plain plover]

yeah tell that to they guy who asked first

[jovial warren]

Wait

[bold dove]

Politics is allowed, as long as it's civil.

[jovial warren]

Oh

[plain plover]

that's not what I remember

[bold dove]

Remember with what?

[plain plover]

well I remember some discussion that was barely political at all and much more of a joke getting deleted

it was about what countries became the URE and Terran Federation

[jovial warren]

I mean

It depends on the cultures of the tribes in ark 2

Probably shouldn't talk about this tho

Politics can become heated very quickly

[bold dove]

You either did say something offensive without noticing, or a newbie mod deleted it.

[jovial warren]

Hmmm

I don't know if I overlooked it but rules doesn't say anything about politics

[bold dove]

I talk politically in general sometimes, and some of the mods will even bud in and join the convo.

[jovial warren]

Ok

[bold dove]

Cause it's not a 'rule' per se.
It's more or less just common sense

[jovial warren]

Although

I'm certain humanity in ark has the tech to completely transform people so I mean trans people aren't out of the question

Oh wait I forgor no tek in ark 2

[plain plover]

In the early stages of man, when someone had a behavior effecting mental illness in the tribe, we just kicked them out of the cave and let them do their own thing in the -10 Celsius blizzard. The only reason disabilities of physical and mental prevalence have seemed to become so much more common in the modern age is because less people with them are dying. We don't know when the engrams of the Genesis come from, if they are from any time since the dawn of man to the modern era, then the response of throwing them out of the cave will likely be held with them, but if they are perhaps from the time after, which we are not entirely sure how long it was from now the launch of the Genesis, it could have been even longer then man has been around. Of course, if the average somewhat decent ARK player practices Eugenics commonly, I suppose a nation that needs it might do the same.

[bold dove]

Right.
But people who where surgically changed before they died and got cloned, could be cloned as a biological female or male.
If the Genesis-ship has any trans people, i don't see why they wouldn't do that.

[jovial warren]

The tribes of ark are WAY smarter than like ancient humans

[bold dove]

Yeaaaaah.

[jovial warren]

They would definitely know what mental problems thre are

Especially with people like santiago

[plain plover]

but could we cure them

[bold dove]

Cure trans?

[plain plover]

could we cure their illness

[jovial warren]

Kinda

[plain plover]

with tek yes, but without it.

[bold dove]

Trans isn't an illness. It's a thing with genetics.

[jovial warren]

They could socially transition but that's it

I doubt they have access to like hrt

[plain plover]

didn't you say that cloning could probably fix genetics

[arctic bison]

Interesting convo as usual

[jovial warren]

No not really

[bold dove]

No, i stated it could heal physical injuries and physical mental issues.

[jovial warren]

Gender dysphoria is like 90% mental stuff

[plain plover]

so why would people with degenerative genetic illness be whatis meant to repopulate society, they would not only be weaker, but spread it to future generations. I'm not talking about transgenderism, I mean all genetic illness.

[jovial warren]

But it mostly depends on the tribes culture as I said earlier
What they view as masculine or feminine etc.

[bold dove]

Thought it was when a embryo was originally a female, but changed to be male. But their personality never changed from the female embryo. No?
(or vice versa, obviously.)

[plain plover]

Huntington's, Diabetes, Alzheimers. Tek can fix them before we even let them out of their pods.

[arctic bison]

they're all just colonisers to the Aratai

[jovial warren]

Aratai are the orc things right?

[plain plover]

yes

[bold dove]

Right, but you'd think hundreds of years in the future, when they possible have accepted trans-people the most out of our history. Why would they try to cure it instead of helping them?
Unless you mean 'cure' as is "a trans male is now physically and mentally a woman now" type of "cure?"

[plain plover]

I fear that the evil maxing has gotten too strong, I cannot make anymore statements without breaking into the realm of actual politics. we should end this discussion.

[brazen sparrow]

As was put earlier, if they want to put trans people in Ark 2, they will. So why complain about it? All I gotta say. And also please be more open minded, unlike FudgeWhale up there.

[brazen sparrow]

Also, out of curiosity, what in the fuck is "evil maxing"?

[plain plover]

it's what compels one to say "wah wah" when being informed of the kidnapping and slaughter of a 6 year old girl

the dark side of trolling

[brazen sparrow]

The fuck???

[bold dove]

Don't mind Red.
Man is.......'special'

[brazen sparrow]

I see

[plain plover]

[bold dove]

He's the definition of a 'edge lord'

Man thinks he's cool, but in reality.
He's an idiot like the rest of us.
He just doesn't like to admit it.

[plain plover]

I love trail mix so mucj

[brazen sparrow]

Fair enough

[bold dove]

Yes Red, we all love mixed trails.
Now go play with your fidget spinner.

[bold dove]

[jovial warren]

TRUE

(This is sarcasm)

[waxen flame]

hmm

[jovial warren]

They don't choose to be trans

We should probably stop talking about this or take it to dms

[bold dove]

Choosing to be trans is like saying you choose to be gay

It's not something you choose, it's something you're born as.

[rigid grove]

Yall could've reported that.

[brazen sparrow]

Missed one

[rigid grove]

No I didn't.

Purge.

Please report instead of trying to change their mind or argue, horrible people won't change. ❤️❤️

[arctic bison]

what did I miss, probably not much

[bold dove]

Wasn't sure if that was something that could've been.

[brazen sparrow]

Same here

[bold dove]

Nothing much, other then someone saying being Trans is a choice.
But we shall move on.

[rigid grove]

Any form of discrimination (transphobia included) is absolutely something worth reporting ❤️❤️

[bold dove]

Will note for future reference.
Thanks Bee.

[rigid grove]

[bold dove]

[arctic bison]

[rigid grove]

To anyone that was bothered or anything at all, it is definitely never okay and should always feel free to report those people by messaging @strange jay

[arctic bison]

Back to creating dumb theories

[rigid grove]

Rockwell was just obsessed with the color pink, not the element

[arctic bison]

Rockwell just took to many lsd pills which led to his element obsession

[bold dove]

Element is purple

[rigid grove]

It's pink, purple, and blue

[bold dove]

Hot Purple

[rigid grove]

Depending on which mushrooms you ran into, it might be every color of the rainbow

[arctic bison]

It's whatever fits the story at that time

[bold dove]

True, but it has yet to be pink

[rigid grove]

The element water is pink isn't it?

[bold dove]

No, that's hot-purple

Look it up.

[arctic bison]

It's LEAN purple, get it right man

[bold dove]

Nah, lean is too dark

[bold dove]

Can i DM you something to post here?

[rigid grove]

Yes sorry

[bold dove]

That's elements color.
That's hot-purple.

[rain dock]

It looks blue to me

[bold dove]

[brazen sparrow]

Thas pink fam

Same color as the booster role

[rain dock]

It has enough red in it to hit the colorblind check for me 🤣

[bold dove]

That's literally hot-purple

[brazen sparrow]

Well hey, my red may not be your red. Everyone sees color differently

[bold dove]

Nah mate, i'm sorry you're color blind.

[plain plover]

purple

[lyric tendon]

Aberrant color

[waxen flame]

Hot purple is the actual name for that color

[bold dove]

Yes

[pseudo nimbus]

It's magenta

[waxen flame]

Magenta has an Rgb of 255, 0, 255, while the color shown has an rgb value of 203, 0, 245

[pseudo nimbus]

Nerd

It's fucking magenta

[waxen flame]

Nope, different color

[pseudo nimbus]

What color is it then

[plain plover]

purple

[pseudo nimbus]

When the fuck did numbers determine color

[plain plover]

when they made computers blink lights

[waxen flame]

Do you know what an rgb value is

[pseudo nimbus]

No idea

[waxen flame]

Hot purple

[pseudo nimbus]

Haram

[waxen flame]

RGB color space or RGB color system, constructs all the colors from the combination of the Red, Green and Blue colors.
The red, green and blue use 8 bits each, which have integer values from 0 to 255. This makes 256* 256* 256=16777216 possible colors.
RGB ≡ Red, Green, Blue
Each pixel in the LED monitor displays colors this way, by combination of red, green and blue LEDs (light emitting diodes).
When the red pixel is set to 0, the LED is turned off. When the red pixel is set to 255, the LED is turned fully on.
Any value between them sets the LED to partial light emission.

[pseudo nimbus]

Why red green and blue

[waxen flame]

Your eyes have 3 color receptors. Those receptors align (within a spectrum) to red, blue, and green. Those colors are mere representations in our brain of light wavelengths. But despite being only a perception, they are the only colors our brain can actually perceive. Every other color is a mix of those three colors, basically its based on how much another wavelength may partially trigger one type of receptor, trigger a second even more, but not trigger the third type at all.

In short, that color is hot purple, fight me

[pseudo nimbus]

It's fucking magenta

[waxen flame]

Prove it

[pseudo nimbus]

My eyes perceive in ryb

[pseudo nimbus]

It's magenta

[waxen flame]

Ah, you got me there

[rigid palm]

Everyone has different labels for colors because everyone was taught which color is which slightly differently. You can’t deny the rgb system tho

[pseudo nimbus]

Then why are we taught in kindergarten that red yellow and blue are primary colors

My life's a lie

[waxen flame]

Common misconception taught in schools unfortunately

[pseudo nimbus]

Where did fucking yellow come from

[rain dock]

Rgb is how our eyes perceive color so they can be considered as fundamental to humans, but red yellow and blue are the natural primary colors

[pseudo nimbus]

But blue is used to mix for green

[rain dock]

Yeah, but that's not how our eyes work

[brazen sparrow]

Well, some people also just legitimately see colors differently. Not talking about colorblindness in particular. There's an olllllld Vsauce vid on it from the before times too

[solemn linden]

Personally I prefer CMYK. It is clearly the superior colour model.

[waxen flame]

For things like painting yes, absolutely

[bold dove]

I love that i've caused a war

[waxen flame]

That’s what this channel is all about

[bold dove]

[pseudo nimbus]

What's that

[solemn linden]

cyan, magenta, yellow and key (black).

Here's some info from wikipedia: "The CMYK model works by partially or entirely masking colors on a lighter, usually white, background. The ink reduces the light that would otherwise be reflected. Such a model is called subtractive because inks "subtract" the colors red, green and blue from white light. White light minus red leaves cyan, white light minus green leaves magenta, and white light minus blue leaves yellow.

In additive color models, such as RGB, white is the "additive" combination of all primary colored lights, black is the absence of light. In the CMYK model, it is the opposite: white is the natural color of the paper or other background, black results from a full combination of colored inks. To save cost on ink, and to produce deeper black tones, unsaturated and dark colors are produced by using black ink instead of the combination of cyan, magenta, and yellow."

[shy monolith]

ur all fucking nerds

[waxen flame]

ur a yak

[tender wasp]

argh.. this killed my eyes like discord light mode XD

[bold dove]

That's how i feel whenever going to the element zone on Aberration

[tender wasp]

lol

[plain plover]

RGB gang superiority, IT THE COLOR OF THE REAL

[rain dock]

I mean, the sun is green so

[bold dove]

[lean island]

condensed

[lean island]

thanks a bunch now im ready for ark 2

[lean bobcat]

Yw!

[lean bobcat]

pinurple

I'm pretty sure it's meant to be purple but in some lighting the element water looks pink

that works for me because purple is the best color :]

[waxen flame]

[rigid palm]

Thats also true yeah

[bronze turtle]

Aberration is an ark, right?

[arctic bison]

everything up to extinction is a ark

[bronze turtle]

Then, would you mind explaining why aberration has metal buildings?

[arctic bison]

Funny tek age people make city, Rockwell becomes tentacle man and destroys it

[bronze turtle]

Lol

Who else but rockwell? 🤭

[bold dove]

Just other survivors ruins

[lean bobcat]

wait wait

i wrote a whole summary

[lean bobcat]

^^ read this for more background @bronze turtle :]

to add to the summary and answer your question, a tek civilization originally inhabited the aberrant ark - they were the ones who destroyed the overseer and unintentionally caused the ark to malfunction - but once Rockwell became a mutated purple tentacle dude, he destroyed the town and killed everyone in it except for Helena, Santiago, and Mei-Yin (who he would've killed if they had been there most likely). "The Spine" is the Gateway Project, which transported Helena, Santiago and Mei-Yin down to Earth (along with a handful of other survivors)

The other buildings are just the ruins of the old tek towns

[umbral yoke]

Thanks for the effort! Ive watched the lore vids on youtube but its so good to refresh it with a great summary like yours

Also for gen 1, are the glitches stories of random survivors or are they somehow related to the characters we know?

[timber karma]

damn bro good job on this 🙏🙏

[tender wasp]

He didn't kill all in it. He killed some people in it, Like Diana but He didn't kill all of them.

He run into the deeps of thr Ark after He killed a bunch of people. The survivors Finish the Gateway and then Go down to earth. He also never destroyed the whole Tek village (they never had a big city). He destroyed parts of it.

And later on extinction Santiago even states they are not only some but a big bunch of people and dinosaurs. He states the recources/assets they have are quite fine to start on earth. They are way more than a "handful"

It is even pretty clear they are people from the Abs-Tek-village.

And if I am not totally mistaken, Rockwell wasn't even full mutated at the point, when he went amok and killed people in the village and then "fled".

[rain dock]

Aberration got blown up by a bomb. The metal structures are the interior structure of the ark

[bold dove]

Nah, they're building shaped.

They look like they where part of the remnants of the tek-tribe.
Same type of architecture.

[rain dock]

Hmm, maybe, but then what about the metal skeleton leading to the rockdrakes?

[bold dove]

Never explained

[bold dove]

Let me tell you something.
You know that i'm part of the survival stories, right?

[rain dock]

Hmm, I am not familiar with that 😅

[bold dove]

Look it up.
Biggest ARK lore project in the community.

probably should throw in 'ark' in there, just in case Youtube does the dumb

[rain dock]

I'll look it up jaja

That must have taken a lot of work to do

[solemn linden]

Do you mean the giant metal structure that kind of looks like a spine?

[bronze turtle]

Like the one neddythenoodle posted?

[bold dove]

Yep

[bronze turtle]

Cool dude

[bold dove]

They spend hours trying to figure out and rewrite the notes in a better format.
And oh boy, can i tell you.
None of us can figure out what the fuck the element-extractor is for, and why it's called that.
It's never once mentioned in the notes.

[bronze turtle]

To extract element? Lol

[bold dove]

But why, and to where?

Cause it just leads to the portal.

[bronze turtle]

To gather element 😂
Just like the oil pump

No, i have no idea

[bold dove]

No shit.
We got ourselves a Sherlock Holmes here.

What's your next guess, detective?

[bronze turtle]

That element is alive

[bold dove]

Really now?!?!
Would've never guessed.

[bronze turtle]

Yee

[jovial warren]

element is alive?

[bold dove]

[solemn linden]

Well the portal was the big thing that the tek tribe was working on and we can infer that the portal is probably a tek structure and as such has element in it, so maybe the element extractor was used to get element from the depths of Aberration up to the building site of the portal so they could use it.

[jovial warren]

I thought it just had reality warping properties

[rain dock]

I mean it is called a xenotoxin in extinction notes

[solemn linden]

it's got a hive mind

[bold dove]

Counter point.

[bronze turtle]

I also think rockwell might be a villain, i just need to do further investigation

[jovial warren]

Where

[bold dove]

They stated the portal used the Obelisks as batteries, not the extractor.

[jovial warren]

King titan?

[bold dove]

King-Titan is the pillar of the hivemind.

Yes, element is alive and it's an alien.

[jovial warren]

I didn't know that💀

[solemn linden]

I'm not saying it used it as a battery, I'm saying that it was used to get element up to the building site so that they could use it in the building process of the portal

[rain dock]

I get a feeling that we will see the king titan again on ark2, possibly the king titans boss

[bronze turtle]

Idk, i dont think he is, cant seem to find anything

[solemn linden]

The corrupted and the titans all share a hive mind, rockwell is also kind of linked into it cause of all the element he's got in his system.

[jovial warren]

I doubt it

[bold dove]

King-Titan is dead.
And it requires a heavy amounts of element to have titans.

[jovial warren]

Is there element on the new planet?

[bold dove]

Then why are they extracting liquid element, and not making it into usable building materials?
Cause the station-nodes exists.

[bold dove]

We don't know.

[rain dock]

This is all speculation, but I think rockwell when he took over the ship pointed the destination to arat on purpose because that could be the home of element

[bold dove]

I can see titan sized animals/aliens.
But pure-element based titans, i doubt.

[solemn linden]

Maybe it was easier to transport it up to the building site in liquid form and the extractor is just some kind of giant pipe thing idk

[jovial warren]

If that was the home of element wouldn't it be a giant organic mess?

[rain dock]

I kind of got the feeling of that while rereading the extinction notes

[jovial warren]

Like what we see in the Rockwell areas in gen 2

[solemn linden]

The colony ship was made of tek and tek has element in it so technically there is at least some element on the planet thanks to the debris from the colony ship but other than that we don't know.

[bold dove]

Thing is, this is all speculation.
Our issue is that there's nothing 'confirmed' about it.
Which makes it hard to recreate the notes, when a BIG object isn't explained.

[rain dock]

Not necessarily, but maybe

[rain dock]

This is the biggest thing with the notes for me lol. There seems to be so much important info just ignored

[solemn linden]

Yeah, that's fair. At least it's name confirms that it's purpose was to extract element, we just don't know what for. I still think it's a fair guess that it was for the portal considering that's where it leads.

[bold dove]

Ehhhhhh.
The name came from the URL of a picture of it from the person who made the model.
A model name doesn't mean it's the real name of it. Just a placeholder.

[solemn linden]

I mean it's an oddly specific name, so it seems weird that the person who made the model would name it that unless that was what they had been told it was for. Like if it was just named "big tek spine thingy" then like ok that doesn't confirm anything, but "element extractor" implies that it had a purpose that they were actively thinking about when designing it.

[bold dove]

'I guess'
But anything can go with codenames

[tender wasp]

That is the gateway project, when you are talking about the "spine" like structure.

[wary ruin]

king titan was killed in extinction. Rockwell is dead, we won't see them (i hope) again as it would literally ruin the ending of Genesis 2 and Extinction (gen 2 where rockwell and HLNA died), and extinction where KT was killed, saving earth from element's corruption

bringing either of them back would he dumb

[rain dock]

There is an image of the king titan in the cave paintings of one of the trailers I think, plus it wouldn't ruin extinction, because ark2 isn't on earth. If element made the king titan on earth, there is nothing saying it can't make another similar one on arat

[lean bobcat]

Ty!

[solemn linden]

The cave painting was a recap of the story of ARK 1. One side has the king titan and the other side has the mega mek.

[lean bobcat]

It's the gateway project! At the end of Aberration, you go through it & the portal to be transported to Earth- which would make a lot of sense as to what it is.

Also, I just recently watched the survival stories- great job, it's really impressive how much work must have gone into all that! Can't wait for aberration's video to be out <3

[lean bobcat]

@bronze turtle I just wrote this yesterday ^^ Should be a pretty decent summary!

Yw!

[stray storm]

it's also the name of the actual model in game. or the several pieces it's made out of

[stray storm]

the thing is, the explorer notes never mention the element extractor in any capacity. the only thing they mention is the gateway project portal room area a couple times, planning to take power from the obelisks, getting a special kind of element shard for the gateways focusing lenses, and actually planning to activate the portal. As with many of the ruins on ab, they don't line up with the notes very well or at all. do correct me if I'm misremembering. One could speculate how it worked in many different ways. like perhaps the element extractor provides element to the gateway project, powering it, but then the whole "taking power from the obelisks" wouldn't have actually happened. Or maybe, they use the element extractor to put excess power into the blue obelisk, since it's got that large rig around it that has similar piping to the element extractor. Then they could use the stored power in the blue obelisk to power the gateway project. When we the survivor go through all the rings, we're likely activating the element extractor, thus setting all the components in motion. There's probably a couple other ways it could work, but those are some I've thought of.

[bold dove]

Why would it be called an element extractor then?
Also if i recall right, tek-structures by the tek-tribe has a specific texture.
Said device, does not follow the same rule.

[bold dove]

Tl;dr
"We have no idea, why Wildcard must you curse us."

[stray storm]

we can only assume based on ingame events, since the notes barely/don't talk about it

and oftentimes, there are discrepancies between the ingame world and the word in the lore

[bold dove]

Though, we've proven to ourselves that in-game events aren't reliable.

Extinction, for example.

[stray storm]

pain

[bronze turtle]

Where did the tek stryder come from? Did rockwell create it or smth?

[bold dove]

If it ain't gross or abomination looking, it ain't made by a madman.

No, Santiago made them.

[bronze turtle]

Ah

[lean bobcat]

Hm, I'm not sure then. From what I've heard most people think it's the Gateway Project since it connects to "The Portal" that brings you to Earth, and the Spine seems to be 'activated' or something along with the portal when you beat Aberration.

The "element extractor" could've just been a placeholder name that they used for it or something, I dunno- that's just my 2 cents

[jovial warren]

What are you guys talking about?

[bold dove]

Yeah, i don't really care what 'most people think' in the lore community.

Cause these are the same people that still think Rockwell made the reapers and nameless.

[lean bobcat]

Lol, I thought he did too tbf until I actually read the explorer notes and realized reapers and nameless definitely existed beforehand

[dense ice]

i thought rockwell was da only character in ark !!!! he a boss, he so cool david tetntnant man!!

🤯

i bet rockwell made earth

[bold dove]

[bold dove]

Don't say that Ned.
You know how much i hate that cringe theory.

I lose a piece of my soul every time i hear someone say "wait, i thought Rockwell made the reapers?"
Which, i already have limited fragments left of my soul.

[glad dirge]

Apart from from meeting Rockwell what did aberration uncover about the lore and story?

[solemn linden]

Basically the version of Santiago that helped out with the colony ship created the stryders as a way to prevent element contamination, since the terrain for the ship was taken from Earth and as such may have had trace amounts of element in it.

[bold dove]

That if you where to kill the overseer, it'd cause hell.
Element can go in a liquid state.
It can also produce radiation and mutate creatures.
The ARK's are ever adapting, and even if you destroy important parts of a ARK, they will adapt to continue testing.

[pseudo nimbus]

They said September we'll get scorched ascension?

Tomorrow is sep 1st

[arctic bison]

switch will get it with it's revamp update first, other platforms will get it later

[brazen sparrow]

Unspecified later update for us other platforms, yeah. Probably on account of the fact that it is entangled with an entire codebase rework that would shake a lot of things up for the other platforms lol

Or, it's really simple to do that and they just want to give it to us at the same time as the carcharodontosaurus...

[plain plover]

That's the scenario where I watch it on youtube as soon as it's out

[dense ice]

Lore nerdz across the world will be shooketh to the core, September 25th.

😎mark my words

[glad crow]

Hype.

[solemn linden]

It's looking really good so far from all the teasers. Can't wait to see the end result!

[dense ice]

Thank you.

[rain dock]

What's happening September 25th?

[glad crow]

Neddy's aberration acted note thing.

[fallow sapphire]

lets frickin go! super hyped to see it Neddy!

[rain dock]

Ooohh 😅

[bold dove]

[stray storm]

it will be real

[bold dove]

Finally, something real!

Been hating watching all these fake videos

[storm blade]

Does anyone wanna make a new survival map (Ragnarok + No Mic)

Wrong channel

[wary ruin]

that's new, they told themselves it's the wrong channel

[fallow sapphire]

It was probably spartan hacking their system and telling them through themselves it was the wrong channel

[bronze turtle]

I gotta wait that long for another masterpiece? Cant wait!

[broken star]

I'm honestly more interested in the little explorers mode then I am the scorched Earth Ascension

Oh rip it did not scroll

[plain plover]

It sounds awfully similar to a certain other ARK game with a certain other holographic assistant

TBH I liked the design of the robot assistant in ARK Park more then HL-NA's

I think that if they ever did a version of it for the URE, that's what they would be

wait a minute

all those models

[lyric tendon]

context plx

[plain plover]

So I did a second take of the "Tek" design and I noticed it's pretty different then our tek, stuff has this porceline look instead of medal and has this orange theme, the ship and "hub area" is kind of different and is super generic scifi stuff but some ARK models are lying around

I think that we should call this tek style "derptek"

[brazen sparrow]

The fuck are you talking about fam

[jovial warren]

"Jesse what the fuck are you talking about"

[plain plover]

I take it none of you have played ARK Park

[lyric tendon]

seen a few gameplay but eh

[bold dove]

Could also be a form of proto-tek.

Or maybe, citizens where issued with porceline like tek-structures that where less durable then the metalic like stuff, that was more used for important stuff.

[plain plover]

humanity had a phase

also they had like interstellar travel so I think that it's just not related to anything at all

they added a tek suit and tek rex DLC as the last content ever for the game

[pliant kindle]

While wandering around Extinction had a few questions. I am curious about the forbidden zone's composition and if any relation exist between the corrupted element and silicate? Why is the entire zone large silicate crystals, was that the doing of the King Titan?
Also is it true the large vast crater near the southern Oil field zone was from an ARK?

[plain plover]

It is a strange detail that isn't explored much, but it is implied that element has granted people to synthesize other elements and alloys using the energy it provides. This can be things like silicate, mutagen, whatever the Aberration gems are supposed to be, and the other weird glowing substances present around the maps.

Element of course has the ability to use its power to for its own use, and possibly the formation of silicate occurred due to its high presence. Also, the zone isn't actually entirely silicate crystals, but in-fact a massive glacier that has not melted thanks to the climate being completely whack

[wary ruin]

the last one, i would say yes

[plain plover]

The giant crater was indeed the launch site of an ARK, and there are many similar all over the world, each for an ARK

[wary ruin]

because that's where the island lands in the ending cutscene

[pliant kindle]

oh interesting, yeah, from a glance the Forbidden zone, sure does look like large glacier, I got outer space vibe from it at first. Then the local temp says otherwise but then yeah it could be exotic form of ice?
Also Is it ever mentioned what part of earth Extinction takes place?
Thanks for the replies! 🙂

[plain plover]

Nobody actually knows, my own guess is Chile, as it's the place that's sort of on the opposite side of earth from Mount Arat, and also has snow.

[jovial warren]

Considering there's no ocean to use as a starting point

We don't know

It could be anywhere

[true skiff]

Can someone give me the whole lore of rockwell

[bronze turtle]

Rockwell exisists
Rockwell sees element
Rockwell obsession
Rockwell takes over abberation
Rockwell kills tek tribe
Rockwell hacks genesis ship
Rockwell take over half ship
Rockwell connects to ship
Rockwell dies, ship dies
Rockwell afraid
Rockwell dead

[true skiff]

[mental basin]

ARK Park?

[bronze turtle]

Joe

[brazen sparrow]

Mama

[jovial warren]

what

Uhh

Ok?

[slow vapor]

wont ask what next time will u 😂

[brazen sparrow]

?

[high fable]

Another stupid question, did rockwell create the shadowmanes or no?

[bronze turtle]

I think so? Not sure, it is on the rockwells side of the ship, so you would assume it right?

[bold dove]

Yes

He also created noglins, and the meat-biome

[high fable]

Ah kk

meat-biome is the like place with the heart right?

[bold dove]

Nah, the 'other' meat place

[high fable]

Oh

[bold dove]

[real vine]

You aren't supposed to go to Aberration

[ornate hull]

Holy shit that cutscene

[fallow sapphire]

Well time to beat the island again so i can do scorched ascension the second it comes out

[bold dove]

And the new intro for The Island

[fallow sapphire]

oh yeah, forgor about that

[brazen sparrow]

Did something get revealed? What am I missing here?

[bold dove]

Scorched ascension was shown

[arctic bison]

Scorched Ascension, carcharadontasaurus image and dossier reveal, animated series music is 75% done and some small talk about ark 2

[bold dove]

And a new story-intro for The Island

[brazen sparrow]

Oh shit

[arctic bison]

i knew i forgot something

[bold dove]

I can send you both.

[brazen sparrow]

Ok, so I need to open youtube like rn

[brazen sparrow]

Please do

[bold dove]

They're not on Youtube yet

[arctic bison]

some vids of the whole scorched ascension should be posted, raasclarck has one up already

[brazen sparrow]

I was gonna say, youtube is preeeetty quick lol

oH MY

Just watched the Scorched one

Jfc, they outdid themselves

Good job to everyone involved

[arctic bison]

Rockwell stops you from going to **another **Island ARK by pulling you into abberation

[brazen sparrow]

So fuckin sick dude

Hype as hell rn

[bold dove]

To be fair, that does make sense.

The ARK's where so degrading that they had such high expectations for survivors, that they basically created a infinite loop.
So, in a way. Rockwell helped us get out of that loop.

[arctic bison]

only weird thing i noticed was abberation only showed 1 obilisk, while the others still show the normal 3, might have been an oversight

[bold dove]

Yeah, that is weird.

[brazen sparrow]

Some of them are damaged, so take that into consideration

[bold dove]

Probably 100% is an oversight.
But I'd like to think they said 'nah, fuck you' and removed the other two.

[brazen sparrow]

iirc, that is

[bold dove]

They're 'all' damaged.
ARK's as a whole are just degrading pieces of rocks.

[brazen sparrow]

I meant the obs

[arctic bison]

update: rockwell wanted to screw you more so he unplugged the other 2 surface areas 😂

[brazen sparrow]

I still love the visuals they came up with for someone being uploaded/downloaded, body and soul, between Arks

[bold dove]

Aberration's surface is also a lot more spikey then it is in-game.
So, this is one of those "gameplay vs in-universe" things.

Gonna be pissed if we don't get the soundtrack.

[brazen sparrow]

Even the original animations are fucking killer by most standards

[bold dove]

True, but with the survivor glitching out. The animations in here are a LOT more better.

Older ones are good.
But you can tell which ones where made first.

[brazen sparrow]

Oh for sure, that's gonna be my new favorite one 100%

[fallow sapphire]

Yeah this is one is so epic lol

[arctic bison]

i wanna bet rockwell will talk about his element bathwater with that update to the abberation fight later this year aswell

[bold dove]

Also, it seems like the survivor is falling on one of the openings you see if you look up on Aberration.

Not through an actual surface entrance.

[arctic bison]

kinda looks similar to the surface entrance next to the portal area that goes down into the molten element zone

[fallow sapphire]

so basically

[brazen sparrow]

Yeah, I was gonna say

[fallow sapphire]

we are canonically screwed

[arctic bison]

screwed for rockwells entertainment

[brazen sparrow]

We stick the landing, it's ok 😉

[fallow sapphire]

gah i cant get over how cool it is lol

[brazen sparrow]

Same

[bold dove]

Nah, we fucking die and go back to the respawn screen. xD

[fallow sapphire]

yeah basically

[arctic bison]

''Respawned Again''

[fallow sapphire]

no

[arctic bison]

i posted where we fall in fanart channel

[bold dove]

@arctic bison Also, all the surface entrances have had overhangs to protect you from the sunlight. Then you don't instantly die once you crawl up it.
This is literally a hole.

[fallow sapphire]

its the hole from his pic, rock structure is basically the exact same

[bold dove]

Can't see shit in that image

[brazen sparrow]

Get better eyes? Jk, but it is definitely the right one, you can see the structure to the right in the cutscene

A screenshot of that same zone during daytime would help, I will agree there (seeing as the cutscene happens in the daytime as well)

[arctic bison]

gimme a min

[brazen sparrow]

I got it

@arctic bison

Or wait, nvm

I got a different one lol

[arctic bison]

wich one did you have lol

[brazen sparrow]

The fuck... it said my post was explicit? Stupid bots

[fallow sapphire]

Lol

[brazen sparrow]

Gotta wait 4 minutes 🤦‍♂️

[fallow sapphire]

Thats what you get for trying to share hot aberration pics

[bold dove]

Ooooh, i see now

[arctic bison]

super hot aberation pics?

[brazen sparrow]

Well, it is, like a couple hundred degrees in the pic, sooooo...

You aren't wrong, I guess 😅

[fallow sapphire]

That was the intention of the joke lol

[dense ice]

Overall it was a fine cutscene, but it needs to be polished.

• Missing obelisks
• Obelisk size itself is extremely large relative to the megastructure (the three giant pillars attached to the outer rim of the ARK)
• Hole in the mesh when survivors is falling

If they fix those, it'll be great.

[bold dove]

We'll see on release. Cause you gotta remember, a lot of developers like to use earlier builds to showcase stuff.

[dense ice]

Correct.

[bold dove]

Even if they don't. This is a pretty good cutscene for the standards of ARK.

If you think that's bad.
Then you have no idea how shitty the Genesis-2 ending is on last-gen Xbox's. xD

That ending is missing 50% of the assets when you watch it.

Rockwell looks like playdough.
The solar-panels the ring crashed through isn't even there, nor any of the debree of the ship nor panels.

[lean bobcat]

Damnn that cutscene ending though

[bold dove]

[lean bobcat]

Oo they're adding dialogue to the final aberration fight?

[arctic bison]

that's also supossed to come along around that time

[bold dove]

Where'd they say that?

[lean bobcat]

Damn, now I regret letting that about-to-beat-aberration backup expire :')

I do love that cutscene though

With all the glitching and everything- it's just so good

[arctic bison]

i'm having a bit of trouble finding the post about the aberration fight being voiced over, but iirc that's also happening later this year. if anyone is able to find that quote, please post it in here, pretty sure it was a post regarding the switch revamp

[mental basin]

It was in a community crunch, to my knowledge.

But I can vouch for Eggman, it was definitely something that's been stated.

Let me drop my opinion here.

Scorched Ascension, pretty good. A lot of it seems like an asset flip but in the middle, but everything else is amazing. I love the glitchiness and how we fall in a really goofy way.

The Note voiceovers were chilling, in a good way.

The Island intro was good, except for Helena's animations. They are absolutely terrible.

We went from the Genesis Trailer to a model that's 90% static, all but t-posing the entire cutscene.

And, additionally, what she says goes against her TOWW Notes.

But I'll accept it, because it's really, really cool.

That is my opinion on the matter.

[merry cipher]

I am thinking so fucking hard about that Scorched ascension cutscene.

The fact that the Survivor is ripped from the "pipeline" and forced into Aberration instead is SO cool

[fallow sapphire]

I love it so much lol

[merry cipher]

Tiny bits like this really feed into headcanons/theories and I love it

Through what we saw

We can see it as the fact that the ARK is so broken that it was moved aside from the pipeline after a while. I wonder if Overseers have any control over ascension destinations? Rockwell could've made it so that he could force Survivors against their will to come to Aberration instead, seeing as he wanted people to obey him. (And, after all, he Does laugh after the cutscene)

[jovial warren]

What if Rockwell is simply more powerful than the other overseers

Also I find it funny how manticore is supposed to be SEs overseer

So I just imagine them like

At a desk

Writing down things about survivors

[mental basin]

Agreed.

The beginning was very cool and cinematic, the middle was just an okay asset flip of the last one, but eye ending is what really catches you off guard.

Still, though. That Island intro with Helena is concerning.

[merry cipher]

The island intro with Helena made me so sad

[mental basin]

We've had amazingly animated cutscenes before, especially in trailers and DEFINITELY in Genesis 2.

I hope it's just a rough draft, and not the final cutscene.

[merry cipher]

I mean... I think it looks fine

[mental basin]

She's an ethereal being, not a SFM model.

I implore you watch the Genesis Announcement Trailer, then rewatch The Island intro.

You'll see what I mean.

It took me like, towards the end of my first viewing to go "Huh. Helena's movements are quite awful."

The neon sketches taken out of Helena's Explorer Notes look amazing, though.

[merry cipher]

They're stiff for sure, but not awful

[mental basin]

Immediately recognized the Megalodon one and I think the Obelisk is from Note #3.

Agree to disagree. In comparison to what we've seen, it's an eyesore.

And idk what it is about Scorched, something about it feels so.. jarring compared to The Island. It's definitely due to them being better at the cutscenes.

I can't tell if it's better, or it's worse.

Towards the end though..that has me ridiculously hyped.

And of course, Gareth absolutely slaughtered the soundtrack.

Maimed it, discombobulated it, threw it in the blender and made a musical smoothie.

It's so good.

[merry cipher]

I think the cutscenes are definitely better. The Island intro has a lot going on already, so I think being too extravagant can make it confusing.

But the animation does look stiff as hell

[mental basin]

Mhm mhm I just hope they have a bit of tweaking time.

I dunno the release date, but I'd assume they have the time.

This makes me want to replay ARK 1. The only reason I stopped was because I couldn't beat Gen2 on Alpha.

Looking at you, Downriver Run.

[merry cipher]

Gareth's soundtracks are always TOP tier though

The Genesis 2 ost still gives me chills ngl

[mental basin]

Must have TAS OST

Need

ARK 2 OST is going to go absolutely bonkers

I'll tell you that

[merry cipher]

I need Rockwell Garden 2 imprinted on my brain somehow

[mental basin]

Do what one of my classmates did and get a microphone stuck in your ear

[merry cipher]

That track has NO right being 2 minutes long

[mental basin]

No no...what's the name..

Epilogue??

Rockwell's... something..

[merry cipher]

Postlude

[mental basin]

YES

God that's ones SO good

[merry cipher]

that song makes me cry LMAO

The entire Gen2 ending sequence broke me for a few days

[mental basin]

Gen2 ending mustered a weak tear but that was about it. I was more hyped that I killed my first boss.

Then I just rewatched the ending ten billion times.

Must have A2 news

[merry cipher]

Felt that, I love watching the ending

[mental basin]

Need TAS already

My faith in them telling a good story is slowly returning

Even if TI intro retcons more of Helena's stuff

Idc, it was cool as balls

Mmmm scrumptious Rockwell bossfight lines

[tender wasp]

I only need the OSTs.

AT least with these I know I will not be dissappointed.

[wary ruin]

Something I don’t think anyone can disagree on, is the fact that the OSTs on ark are amazing

[lyric tendon]

I need a calmer OST, currently everything is intense

[wary ruin]

King Titan OST is very stressful but very epic

[sick canyon]

Arks music is absolutely amazing
Especially the island, aberration, extinction and gen 2 OSTs
Gareth coker has truly made the some of the best music ever

[sick canyon]

Have you heard any of the ori soundtrack?

[lyric tendon]

No not yet

[tender wasp]

Animated ost is supposed to have a lot more silent and calmer tracks

[lyric tendon]

I know there is another music with the ARK Leif motief but it's not made for ARK

[tender wasp]

And yes Mazzy, get the Ori Tracks, also from Gareth and a lot of great calm tracks ^^

[sick canyon]

Well you should
Its also by careth coker

[lyric tendon]

Tried Helena & Wife and Mei's theme but it gets either too intense or too somber

Might consider Ori

[sick canyon]

Gareth coker music is perfection

🎧

[odd nimbus]

Holy shit the sc ending is amazing

Might replay ark again just for that

[wary ruin]

Sc?

[odd nimbus]

Scorched earth

[wary ruin]

When was the ending shown

[lean bobcat]

It just got leaked yesterday

[wary ruin]

I thought that was just an intro to the island

[lean bobcat]

That and also a scorched ascension

It's super cool go watch it

[split rover]

In yesterday's stream they (possibly by mistake) referred to the ark 2 map as "the overworld"

Now why would you call it that if there isn't something on arat that isn't "the overworld"?

[bold dove]

Overworld usually means refers to multiple dimensions, or just multiple areas to travel to that aren't connected to the main world

Soooooo.
That might've been a slipup, and they confirmed that the normal map isn't the only region you can travel to.

[misty crest]

Bro hearing the ab theme motif and then Rockwell laughing was the top of cake for me

I also like how it looks like you were supposed to go to a other island ark but then it malfunctions and takes you to aberration

It looks like Rockwell wanted you to go to aberration

[odd nimbus]

The glitch part is amazing too

[lean bobcat]

Yeah I really love it

[misty crest]

I don’t get how Rockwell was able to mess with the scorch ascension protocol

[lean bobcat]

I think of it as, he realizes that you beat the manticore, and wants to prove to himself that he's the best by killing/tormenting you. Jokes on him though we're immortal midgets with incredibly strange body proportions :]

[misty crest]

Lmao good point he gets cheesed by a cactus broth

[lean bobcat]

lol yeah

It kinda makes sense to me since all of his dialogue in Genesis sure makes it sound like he's a complete egomaniac

[merry cipher]

I wonder if they're going to alter Aberration Rockwell's model at all?

If so, I.. hope they don't make him more TAS-like

[fallow sapphire]

Yeah im curious what’s gonna happen there aswell

[arctic bison]

only thing happening to that one is him being voiced during the fight later this year as far as they stated

[merry cipher]

it's gonna be VERY funny seeing this crusty model speaking as david tennant

[misty crest]

They should make it his voice more deeper for ab when he speaks unlike gen 2 where it alternated between

They should make it sound more distorted and intimidating

[stray storm]

I kind of like him being a monster that doesn't speak on ab, it sets him apart from gen2 rockwell. if they add any voicelines to the ab bossfight, I feel like his voice shouldn't be super clear and be not very frequent.

[lean bobcat]

^^^^ 100%, I feel the same- like how he speaks in the extra piece of the extinction ascension (but a bit more clear than that, because it's really hard to hear what he's saying)

At the very least he should sound/act more like a monster than in gen 2

[bold dove]

Where was this stated?

[arctic bison]

should be in a community crunch somewhere

[merry cipher]

I agree tbh. Rockwell Prime is the perfect, or prime, form of him. Abb should be much more all over the place and far less human than how he is on Gen2

[stray storm]

in gen2 he probably had time to perfect himself, and had knowledge that he didn't have before. aberration was his first attempt

[empty shell]

If you were to sum ul all ark general lore in 5 minutes, what would it look like?

[merry cipher]

I can do it in 3 words

Space metal. Oops!

[lean bobcat]

I would copy and paste my summary that I already made >:) But just so that I don't clog up the channel, I'll reply to it in a second

[lean bobcat]

:)

[bold dove]

Edmundiums summery is better.

[bold dove]

I can sum it up in one.

"Oops!"

[merry cipher]

SO true

[bold dove]

Everything in the ARK universe could've been fixed if Humans weren't dumbasses.

[fallow sapphire]

Everything in the known universe could be solved if Humans werent dumbasses

[lean bobcat]

lmao

[misty crest]

Yeah I think the federation technology on the ship really helped him evolve more

I wonder if abb is going to have a introduction cutscene of Rockwell talking to you like the Island for Helena

Pretty each story map will have intro cutscenes now

[brazen sparrow]

I felt like I was the only one who liked the "GRAAAAAH"s and the "OOOOMPH"s

I think they shouldn't add anything except maybe newer growls and such, no full speech

[bold dove]

Thing is, he could talk telepathically instead of verbally.
Akin to Helena

[brazen sparrow]

Doesn't fit at all

[brazen sparrow]

That makes no sense, he isn't homo-deus

[bold dove]

They could have the excuse of "since the survivor has been exposed around the radiation zone for so long. They got a enough dose to be able to connect to the hive-mind"
Is it a good explanation? No.
But I can see them doing that.

[brazen sparrow]

I can't, that makes no sense lol

[fallow sapphire]

Well i mean via the grad students we kinda see Rockwell can kinda use telepathy anyway

[bold dove]

Yep

He's already done it.

[fallow sapphire]

I don’t particularly like the idea of him fluently talking, but its not completely ridiculous

[bold dove]

They could also be redoing his roars as David roaring instead.

[brazen sparrow]

Well yeah, one weakminded grad student emo kid does not equal ubermensch, saviour of man

[fallow sapphire]

Thats what i would prefer

[brazen sparrow]

He probably just heard what he wanted to hear

[bold dove]

Both are still human though.
And predictable.
And Rockwell will take advantage of that.

[brazen sparrow]

I hope that's what they meant

[bold dove]

He's obviously is powerful if he's able to change the ARK systems control.

[fallow sapphire]

I kinda want them to redo the master controller voice in the fight. His glitches have Tennants voice, but the fight is still the og voice

I prefer the og, but its kinda wack

[bold dove]

The glitches did have his voice.

For some reason, it's been changed back

[fallow sapphire]

Has it?

[brazen sparrow]

Probably because everyone preferred the old one lol

No offense to David Tennant, he's great

[fallow sapphire]

Can’t blame em’, i did too

Its more intimidating

[brazen sparrow]

But I do like the old one for master controller at least

Just because it's like a halfway point between full guttural beast noises and human speech

[bold dove]

And to be fair, the MCM being Rockwell is 'suppose' to be a surprise.

[fallow sapphire]

Aye, thats why i disliked them changing the glitches

[bold dove]

Well, when I say "suppose"
I mean it was obvious from the get go.

They should've had the Master-Controller talk actually normally at first, since it is the "corrupted" master controller.
Hell, maybe being a secondary guide. But slowly degrades over the the story-glitches.
Until it's Rockwell controlling the AI.

[fallow sapphire]

The only problem with that is if you find the last glitch first, you get full Tennant

[bold dove]

Well, this is another thing that was changed

They 'originally' progressed with you.
So you'd always get the first story-note, no matter what story glitch you got.

[fallow sapphire]

how do you remember this

[bold dove]

Cause I've been playing since day-one of Xbox ARK.

7 goddamn years.

And day-one of every DLC.

[fallow sapphire]

Ive been playing for 6

I just dont understand how you remember these small details

[bold dove]

Welcome to my curse.

I can remember pointless shit like this.
But can't remember how to do Algebra.

[fallow sapphire]

Ah, i see

My memory goes to quote films, and remembering exactly where that quote takes place

So i feel your pain lol

[lean bobcat]

mood

[lean bobcat]

On another note, yeah I agree that this would be a good explanation for Rockwell "talking", but it should still be at least a bit more intimidating than the gen 2 rockwell. Something that's always been a pet peeve of mine about Rockwell Prime's lines in that final gen2 fight is that he just keeps saying the same thing over and over again... "You're an ant! I'm a god! You can't kill me! I'm the best!" as your op army of 50 mutated shadowmanes is absolutely melting him for the 3rd time

so I hope he's more intimidating in the aberration boss fight, whether that be with him having better lines or having very distorted and infrequent lines, because that boss fight is insanely difficult on alpha & he's used to being completely invincible at that point. The closest anyone got to defeating him before the player (aside from Mei-Yin and Helena, whose friends he'd just slaughtered, so that wasn't a complete loss) was Imamu, who was so utterly scared of him that it completely broke his defiant spirit and led him to writing that one last terrified note before being killed. Rockwell's gotta be pretty scary to get THAT kind of reaction out of a kid who outlasted all of his friends and still stayed at least somewhat positive

[merry cipher]

i mean i wouldnt be surprised if Overseers could communicate with Survivors through their Implants. He could speak through the TEK language and as you said, he spoke to the grads, so..

[fallow sapphire]

Aye

[stuck flare]

i dont wanna be mean but that boss fight is the easiest in the game outside of ledge shotgun camping ones... cactus broth and shotguns work wonders. bring a sino to be extra cheesy. ab rockwell is literally free ascension and tekgrams. i do agree the ab fight should be reworked a bit though

simply on the basis that i've done that fight like 5 times in the past month and it is incredibly boring

running around in a circle for 20 minutes with a shotgun while walking around nameless and reapers will destroy all enjoyment you have of the game. i don't think that part can be fixed but i'll take any little bonuses

[bold dove]

It's like that due to you cheesing the fight of an oversight.

Try to do alpha Rockwell with creatures.

And not with 1-2 players.

[brazen sparrow]

Cactus broth is unintended, so yeah, not really you being good, just abusing an exploit lol

[fallow sapphire]

Still amusing to beat Rockwell so easily with one of his culinary creations

[merry cipher]

betrayal of soup

[quaint marsh]

What's up with Skye? The story of the grads was interesting, then Skye's note comes last and the reader gets a little wtf moment

[stuck flare]

doing alpha rockwell on creatures is just sitting on stegos and using shotguns as far as i'm aware

[bronze turtle]

I beat alpha rockwell with abberant parasaurs

[stuck flare]

lie or not i can genuinely believe that bc i've beat gamma solo on nothing but a high level reaper

[lean bobcat]

^^^

[lean bobcat]

My friend and I tried to do it legit using high-level megalos for damage, and rock drakes + high quality shotguns for the tentacles. Unfortunately we ended up failing alpha Rockwell despite trying it several times and being very well-prepared, which is why I say it's extremely difficult- I was talking about when you attempt it "legit" without using items from another map (or trying to cheese it). We did end up getting beta Rockwell, but it was still tricky

||(p.s. i'm pretty sure we would have been able to kill alpha rockwell if we'd levelled more health into our drakes, we got up to the last round on alpha before dying)||

[lean bobcat]

Honestly not sure. Sky just uh... we don't talk about Sky jumping off a cliff :'D

[mental basin]

They changed the glitches?

[fallow sapphire]

Yeah they had changed em’ to David Tennant’s voice, though according to Spartan they are CMC voice again

[brazen sparrow]

It's a needless tie-in to Ark Park, that's really it

[lean bobcat]

Ohh, I've never heard of Ark Park haha

[arctic bison]

probably better keeping it that way

[brazen sparrow]

Yeeeeah, lol

[lean bobcat]

lmao

please though now i have to know what that has to do with Sky yeeting herself off a cliff

[brazen sparrow]

The previous dream they "remember" is literally basically Ark Park in a nutshell

That's about it

[lean bobcat]

wait wait i need to go reread that note now

LMAO

[mental basin]

They really removed Diana from TAS.

Wow.

And by the looks of it, Raia.

How unfortunate.

[lyric tendon]

unless they made John the chief of Nosti than Raia, the story of SE is purely retconned

[mental basin]

@bold dove, bring forth thy opinion.

What should we make of this.

[lyric tendon]

he's busy lol

[mental basin]

Do not care, did not ask, there is internet debating to task.

[lyric tendon]

but then you asked, i answered on his behalf

[mental basin]

Stalemate.

[bold dove]

?

[lyric tendon]

something posted in the theories discord about Mei and Diana

admittedly there are some things taken out of context

[mental basin]

But from what it sounds like..

No Diana.

And Raia has been pretty much etched out by logical thinking.

[lyric tendon]

i looked at the top post and it stated "are they still alive"

it was taken out of context

[mental basin]

Wait a minute

You got me excited for nothing?

[lyric tendon]

dont blame me, i thoroughly read the screenshot

[mental basin]

Apparently not!

[bold dove]

Where is this stated?

[mental basin]

It's not anymore, apparently. But we just got confirmed how Rockwell got to Genesis.

Oh yeah

[bold dove]

OH??

[mental basin]

You're not in the theories discord

[bold dove]

Where?

[lyric tendon]

get in the theories discord spsart

[mental basin]

Ab landed near AP,

And he used the link Helena left over

[bold dove]

Send me a invite you nae-nae

[mental basin]

Helena went in first 😭

[lyric tendon]

done

[fallow sapphire]

So it was that simple

Also bruh theres a theories discord

[lyric tendon]

shoot you a link

[jovial warren]

I want a link

🥺

[merry cipher]

I hate how much they're retconning of the original lore for TAS.

Diana and Mei Yin were one of the best relationships I've seen written in media, and if they're retconning that, it's going to be horrendous.

[lyric tendon]

Pretty I gave up at this point and #ark-animated-series

I am the reason why they changed the ARK anime chat

[merry cipher]

btw send me an invite? i left but ill rejoin

[plain plover]

so you guys seen the responses

[lean bobcat]

wait what link

fill me in on the news

[bold dove]

Don't think they stated anything about that.

[mental basin]

It was a misunderstanding.

[merry cipher]

oh it was? Thank god

[tender wasp]

Was it really ? Di has no VA at all and I would not be surprised they cut her out and replaced her with Helena as Mei's lover in TAS

Also no mention or VA for Raja as well.

[bold dove]

So far, literally all of the characters are on The-Island that they've shown. (besides Santiago with a bulbdog. But that's probably just promotional shit)
We don't know if they've even reached Scorches story yet, or what.
All we know are these voice-actors that 'all' of them are going to be on The-Island, and Santiago either being changed to be there also. Or just promotional shit to say "Hey, Vin-Diesel will also be in the show once we get to Aberration!"

[tender wasp]

But why do they have John then ?

Also to put him on the Island ?

For me these would be very drastic changes if they would put John and Santiago on the Island allready.

[bold dove]

That's not John

You talking about the Native guy?

[tender wasp]

Isn't John mentioned in the VAs or I am totaly mistaken here ?

[brazen sparrow]

They don't, different guy

[bold dove]

That's Thunder Comes Charging

There's no "John" in the cast

[tender wasp]

Then I must have missread something there.

[solemn linden]

Santiago's little character poster displays him holding a bulbdog infront of a blank void. All other characters have an environment as their background, so it seems like they're just teasing Santiago because A. Vin-Diesel is a big name and B. He is very significant to ARK 2 and they want to hype that up. John on the other hand has a different name and is shown riding a pteranodon on the island so it may just be another guy whose first name is John

[brazen sparrow]

It's most likely just John because a lot of native people are named that for some reason. Citation: I'm native and there's like 50 Johns I know

[bold dove]

So like I said.
Promotional.

[solemn linden]

The character posters they revealed a while ago listed him as "John / Wakiya Natu U".

[bold dove]

Ahh

But like Bruce said. The name 'John' derives from Native Americans.

[tender wasp]

That is maybe why I had that in mind.

[solemn linden]

yup, so it seems like it's just a different John

[bold dove]

I forgor what it means, but John is like "Thunder Comes Charging" for English speakers.

[brazen sparrow]

He's the leader of one of the tribes iirc, don't know which but I feel like it was mentioned at some point

[bold dove]

He's Wakiya Natu U. Like Quantum said.
But he'll probably go by John by English people.

Also, John was established to be an outlaw.
That guy is 100% living the Native life.

An outlaw from Arizona iirr.

[brazen sparrow]

Yeah, the John from Scorched left that life behind to go full cowbo. Besides, it wouldn't make sense to make him be on the Island, let alone riding a pteranodon. So it's most definitely not him. Super excited to hear Zahn voice this John though, love Zahn McClarnon in almost everything he's in

[bold dove]

Who has he done before?

[brazen sparrow]

He played a dude in Doctor Sleep, he's actually going to be in a new show called Dark Winds as well, and he was in Westworld before that

Sorry for the long wait on the reply, had to do some things

[bold dove]

Never watched any of those

[brazen sparrow]

You've never seen Westworld? You should. And Doctor Sleep is a sequel to The Shining, very good as well.

[mental basin]

Maybe it's not promo, I just watched the credits on the menu and it says he'll be in the 2022 release.

[solemn linden]

The fact that it's the only one of the character posters that doesn't have a fully detailed scene as a background, but instead just has a blank void, makes it seem like it is probably just a promo. Plus he is shown holding a bulbdog, which suggests that he will be on Aberration specifically, which would make him the only character revealed so far that isn't on the island. It's possible that since plenty of stuff happens on Aberration prior to Helena arriving there, they may have some cutaway scenes where it shows what is happening on Aberration, while the other characters are still doing stuff on the Island or Scorched.

[brazen sparrow]

I think that is most likely, the flash-sideways to Ab before it gets nuked, since they are doing stuff there in their notes prior to anyone else arriving. We don't even know how long they're there before Mei-Yin gets there, for that matter. Nobody seems to like writing down the dates on their journals... lol

We don't even have a timeframe on how long The Island and Scorched take, either. Time is very under the radar in the notes, it isn't talked about very much/well

[quaint marsh]

Are they leaving John and Raia out though? I'm certain I didn't see them in the promo image...

[lyric tendon]

most likely... especially john is rebranded

[quaint marsh]

But... the Scorched story line :(

[solemn linden]

Seems to be a different John

[solemn linden]

The promo image only shows island characters, with the exception of Santiago, who seems to only be shown to hype up Vin Diesel and ARK 2. John and Raia will likely still be in the show when it gets to Scorched Earth.

[lyric tendon]

like just said r e b r a n d e d

[solemn linden]

I mean it's most likely a different John entirely, not just the same one but altered.

John is a common name lmao

[brazen sparrow]

It's not the same John, therefore not "rebranded" lol

[brazen sparrow]

Especially among native americans, as I've stated before. Guess the information didn't stick, lol

[quaint marsh]

Hopefully that will be the case. Honestly, I hope the show sticks to the notes as much as it can (some parts are very vague, I know), but they will have a great story right off the bat from the first three maps at least. I do understand why Extinctions story would be different, if they ever get there, because of the notes focusing a lot on the player to come.

From the looks of it so far though, this might not be the case, since they have all these new characters (especially Helena's lover, I don't remember her mentioned at all in the notes)
Unless they stay as side characters, I don't think the story we watch will be the same as the one we have read.

[solemn linden]

Most of the new characters appear to be members of the other tribes that Helena occasionally mentioned in both her notes and the dossiers, we are just getting to see the interactions that Helena would have had with them between what is mentioned in the notes. As for Helena's wife, we didn't really get much info on Helena's life before waking up on the Island in the notes and from what we've seen this character seems to be restricted to flashback scenes, so it isn't really a change to the story - it's an addition that helps fill in the gaps.

[quaint marsh]

Ah, I see. Yeah, I thought Helena would have a wife on the Island and completely break the story haha. Can't wait to see how it all comes together once the show releases, but I don't want to have high expectations.

[solemn linden]

An example of the tribe thing: Helena gets help from a tribe called "The Painted Sharks" when she is studying the Island's marine life, but never mentions anything other than the tribes name. We never really hear about any of it's members. One of the new characters is called "The Captain" and has been theorized to be part of that tribe.