Supreme Feedback

[fierce bone]

Hey @pure summit, any feedback on this one? (Unedited JPG from ~2 months ago)

[pure summit]

This is better, but tilted

[pure summit]

This is on film, right? Doesnt really speak, if seen alone, but I do love the vibe. the composition works, its just a tad weak seen alone.

[pure summit]

Comp is too strict on the subject, most likely would have been better if shot in landscape, with a wider focal length, you want to give the idea of space rather than compression

[pure summit]

Better, but the car is destroying the picture

[fierce bone]

Ik, I hate PT Cruisers

[lime hearth]

Thank you. It is film, yep. I will take care that it is seen with others when presented. It is certainly a supporting image in my mind. Or just a mindless wall piece if it’s by itself

[rain jay]

New here, I do train and bird photography mainly, may be posting some of my landscapes and bird photos for constructive criticism as well. This is one of my personal favorites as far as trains go. Let me know how I can improve on it.

[pure summit]

I really dig the look, its just some images are hard to decypher, if seen alone

[pure summit]

foreground right side is way too distracting, really kills the attention that should be on the train

[rain jay]

Yeah that's my biggest problem with it too.

[pure summit]

edit could do something, but composition would still need revisiting imo

[rocky relic]

Do you know any books on the technical side of photography or the photographic physics of photography? Thanks

[pure summit]

Physics of digital photography (both editions) are a good place to start

Everything else, can just be found in optic researches that are public and published on the net

[rocky relic]

Cheers

[rocky relic]

Why are they so much money

[pure summit]

What?

[rocky relic]

It’s £138

[drifting herald]

these two I would really want some feedback

[pure summit]

Very weak subject and composition. First thing I see wrong: when doing this landscapes, you want everything in focus

[pure summit]

Could have been decent if shot from a lower point of view, white balance is wrong and color temps of the lights was worse

Hard to compose when a car is parked and packed between other cars, next time, don’t shoot

[pure summit]

The interesting part is the bottom, so I wonder why you didn’t shoot from lower to magnify the texture and show more of it?

[drifting herald]

I see.

thanks btw

[pure summit]

Also you either don’t see the wheel or see at least 1/3 of it

[drifting herald]

like this?

[pure summit]

Better, white balance still off

[drifting herald]

warmer?

[pure summit]

Dude if you make it warmer the car will set on fire

[drifting herald]

this is the coldest wb I could set my camera to

maybe it's the saturation

I forgot that my camera has the saturation up from messing with my settings

[pure summit]

Isn’t this a raw?

[drifting herald]

JPEG

I can send you the raw when I get back home

it's a SOOC JPEG with the saturation turned up because idiot me forgot that I messed with it

[pure summit]

Please don’t ask for feedbacks on JPEGs, this feedback channel is meant for people shooting raw, editing, trying stuff and looking for feedbacks and help

[drifting herald]

alright

[hollow hatch]

Ah I was on the railing and I nearly touched my phone to the ground was the lowest I could get sadly

[pure summit]

I can accept a SOOC if someone wants to ask how I would edit

[hollow hatch]

Idk bout this one L

[drifting herald]

I'll send the RAW when I get back home

[pure summit]

Then, sadly, you needed a camera and a wide lens to remove compression, gain space on the foreground and get a nice, wide, effect for a compelling image:)

[pure summit]

This is a no, foreground is messy and too disturbing without adding anything

[hollow hatch]

Yeah

At this point I’m spamming lol

[pure summit]

Way better, but the sky is not interesting

Not your fault, but I would have skipped, or came back

[rocky relic]

This is more of a general but what else could I do to make my aircraft photos more tasteful/artistic and not just a frame stopped in time

[hollow hatch]

um so idk if this goes here

but ye

[pure summit]

Answering both tomorrow

[hollow hatch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/995801392407117825/1007809983833980928/unknown.png

Latest edit by the way

[pure summit]

I prefer this, although more noisy

When it comes to Astro I prefer slightly more saturated images. I see a lot of noise, but Astro is a tricky and rather particular field of photography that needs practice and a lot of techniques- having more dark frames and more flat would have helped decreasing the SNR

apart from that, not a lot can be said on it

[pure summit]

I’m on holiday and can’t open raw files now, you’ll have to wait the 18th

[hollow hatch]

yeah this was with a DSLR so I expected a ton of noise sadly darks are useless for dslr's as well so not much can be done for the noise

[pure summit]

I haven’t done a lot of Astro in my life (lack of time and spent half of my life in a zone 9) but doing a lot of flats always helped me, more than the dark frames

[hollow hatch]

yeah you can probably tell there were no flats on this image

[pure summit]

But I understand the limit of it. More flats means more information to remove the noise from, but this is probably a single image?

[hollow hatch]

its a stack of 3 min subs totaling 20 min

[pure summit]

If so, nothing to do.. the iso are high because you want and need the information.. there is no workaround

[hollow hatch]

ye ISO 800

[pure summit]

Without flats, I doubt anything better than this could be done

[hollow hatch]

yeahh

[pure summit]

The processing is good and it’s a good image:)

[hollow hatch]

[rocky relic]

@pure summit

[pure summit]

When approaching photography that doesn’t seem to have an artistic intent, we need to dig deeper in “why are we doing it” part of it.
This picture alone doesn’t say anything, but there is nothing technical wrong about it; what makes it bad is that there is no story connected to it or any other pictures helping me getting the feeling of it.

[tawdry jewel]

really wanna eek out as much as i can out of this image. just wondering what else can be done to further process it

(second file is fullsize, wont preview on discord)

[pure summit]

how do i download it if i cant see it?

[fickle ridge]

You can right click on the high res one and click on "save image"

[tawdry jewel]

Check out the original image on the bottom left of it when you click on it

It should open it up on google where you can save it

[twin rapids]

How’d I do here?

[rain jewel]

Sorry to interject here but would you be cool to share your Ig w me or a portfolio? I’m interested in seeing your work as you give good enough critique

[drifting herald]

#sxpreme-portfolio

[pure summit]

I watched it, truth is with pano of this size, you’ll need a very compelling landscape

Here, anyway, the subject is weak and too hazy.

[pure summit]

There is not enough contrast, the sky is the same luminosity as half of the building

[pure summit]

Thanks:) I know it has been linked before to you - if you have any feedback I’m happy to hear them

[twin rapids]

That’s what glass buildings do to a mf, but yes

[twin rapids]

Something like this better?

[digital meteor]

I'll probably regret this but

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1014582187993088080/1014582699517808811/JUP_1839_exp.jpg

Here it is

[twin rapids]

heres a better edit

[rain jewel]

@pure summit , I took a look at your photos and am inspired by them as much the same in regards to your critiques I’ve read. This pic was taken on my evening walk and is #2 in my first 365 photo challenge. All ears and interested in your remarks. Thank you in advance.

[pure summit]

Answering everyone tomorrow

Been busy

And I want to take my time and concentrate on the feedbacks I give

[twin rapids]

Take your time, don’t rush

[pure summit]

Apologize for being late

[pure summit]

fact is, in this kind of pictures, rather than the sky, you want to see the building. So i would probably expect a darker sky and to be focused on thee building

[twin rapids]

Ah I see

[pure summit]

but, to be fair, there is no nice reflection on the building, i would just say... pass the pic in the bin. happens, and you need to learn what goes in there.

[pure summit]

I know its not easy, but:why are you at around 70 degrees angle from the subject? its a rather uncomfortable angle to be at, because its in teh middle between being at 45 and at 90, but there is no special reasoning for it. The background is a confusing as you can clearly see theres a track on the right, and the lines you used to frame are only cutting part of the subject, more than framing it (you would expect, usually, at least an even spacing between frame and subject)

Focusing is a bit weak, thats kind of important and by being at a less pronunced angle, the focal plane would have been more parallel to the sensor making the DOF higher on the subject, providing focus on all (or most of) it

[pure summit]

What people always tend to remember when taking portraits with a line separating the background from the landscape is: How should I choose where iwant to place the horizon line?

let alone the fact that it is not straight (yes, that, usually, is a mistake, if not reasoned - and if its not straight because yo uwant it to not be straight, make sure to have it slanted by a comfortable amount). That said, the horizon line is cutting the head to a quite big degree.
But, i can understand why: you probabyl realized that the sun would have been to close to the face therefore went for a lower shooting point, which I can udnerstand. I wonder if, by shooting this horizontal, at a sligthly less tilted angle, would have provided greated view of the sunset, and the horizon line behind the shoulders (right now its at the most annoying point it can be, the neck).

Also wonder, what would have happened if you had hidden the sun behind his face, shot from further down, enhancing the red tones by getting more sunset in the picture and the rays of light backlighting the silhouette of the child?

just thoughts, i wasnt there, but it seems to be like a missed opportunity

[pure summit]

send raw

[twin rapids]

I’ll try to do it in a few hours

[digital meteor]

Those lines are the railings and i tried do hard to position myself so the railings aren't obvious (i failed) also bird flew like 2 secs after the photo so i wasn't able to recompose, but thanks for the feedback

[drifting herald]

new version with fixed exposure + fixed sky + multiple gradient masks + some editing

[fringe badger]

I'm a 13 trying to get into photography , how's this?

[tawdry jewel]

heads up, the OP of this thread has left the server

for now

[fringe badger]

What happened to him

[digital meteor]

Wait you can do that?

[knotty fern]

Thoughts?

[fierce bone]

Wait what happened to him?

[drifting herald]

guy left the server lmao

no use in posting here anymore

[knotty fern]

O lol

Mb

[digital meteor]

Did he say anything b4 leaving

[pure summit]

If you ever have questions you cant find answers to, or you simply want a feedback on your images, leave them here. Supreme will answer when he can.

Beware, I'm harsh.

[fierce bone]

Oh sup

[pure summit]

The line separating the wall and the ceiling either needs to be out of the frame or it needs to be straight.
The composition is a bit messy with the back not being clean (I can see the terminal cable and a bunch of stuff in the back. Examples the red hoodie which happens to be the same color as he’s wearing. Very distracting colorwise).
To add a bit of drama I would have probably shot a tiny bit from down below, and more on the right side of it, to get more of the subject in the frame. This kind of pictures often works best if the DoF is low and there’s more compression (needed a longer focal length, most likely). Those lights are obviously awful for photography so I would have exposed more towards the highlights than the mid tones to get a bit of life in the picture

Also, very weird composition if you’re cutting the pot where he’s making the ice cream (which is where the action takes place)

[pure summit]

Tell me;)

[vital briar]

Thank you so much! I’ll keep all this in mind, it’ll help me compose in the future. I might take a stab at re-editing it too

[pure summit]

This was a 50mm right?

[fierce bone]

Tell us your life story

[vital briar]

56 on APS-C, so like 85mm ffeq

[pure summit]

I imagined, looking at the compression

[pure summit]

There’s a time and place for everything, but not now.

[vital briar]

I should’ve also shot this at f/1.2 probably, but I accidentally bumped it to f/2

[pure summit]

This is on film, if I’m not mistaken. Which obviously makes it harder to get a good framing. I actually love the subject, I often take pictures like this.
I just wonder, it something could have been done to have a better framing, in general: I see a lot of lines bringing my eyes in a lot of various places, the dirt on the ground would balance nicely the reflections on the window, but instead I see a lot of the top, which is less interesting. This would have been a nice scene to photograph in square format, these subjects often work better with a easier composition and a 1:1 format ratio

[fickle ridge]

Thanks that's some realy helpful feedback! ❤️ I didn't even notice the lines. And yes it's film, shot on a 4x5 sheet; I can see how a 1:1 ratio could work better and more dirt would help too

[pure summit]

This frames containing other frames usually tend to work better, otherwise you often rely on a good spiral rule placing, in your case, the broken part of the shaders on it, as it’s the most interesting part of it

[fickle ridge]

true, the broken thing is what caught my eye in the first place

[hazy geyser]

@fickle ridge wow I love the style you got there. That's fantastic

[fierce bone]

Destroy me

Also just wondering, you said that you teach at a Uni. What Uni?

[pure summit]

I do not teach yet - I’ve been asked if I want to take care of the photography part at KEA, a university in Copenhagen

[fierce bone]

Oh sick

[pure summit]

I’ll answer to both later.

[pure summit]

I could go in depth, but the truth is... the subject is boring and doesnt really have anything to say

[pure summit]

Composition could work, but the horizon is in the middle of the frame, thats often a very boring choice. Why is it vertical? I would like to see more of the water on the right. There is camera shaking, which is very bad. Was it done while moving or from a hill? If from a hill, you probably needed more exposures to blend, the city on the bottom could use some more light to balance and even out the sky at the top (which could be less boring, if there were some clouds). In that case, I would have tried a long exposure

its tilted to the right of around 1 grade

[fierce bone]

I took this a few months ago with a crappy amazon tripod lol, it was also on the top of a mountain and was pretty windy.

[pure summit]

there also is a lot of Noise

[fierce bone]

Is there?

Which parts?

[pure summit]

what you can do, to reduce the SNR in your image, with a cheap body or a less resoluted one, is taking more pictures at a short time span between them, to then merge them and basically subtract the noise from it

if I zoom on the mountains and dark areas, its clear the camera was struggling to get data from there. Try what I said. If your tripod is not stable enough, take your camera bag and make a knot with it on the bottom of the central coloumn for extra stability, or make yourself a bag full of sand or rocks

you can also take rocks and put them all over the legs

[fierce bone]

Ok cool

[fierce bone]

Also I took it like that 1. To get the full range of colors in the sky 2. Because I didn't really like what was right outside the frame and 3. Because vertical looks better on Insta . How would you suggest reframing it? Less sky?

[lean wind]

i took this like a while back and just fixed lighting on it anything i can do to improve the pic ( used 18 - 55mm )

[fierce bone]

Probably cut out like 85% of the black space

But this is @pure summit's thread so ill stfu

[last compass]

Make me suffer, I can take it! No photo is perfect.

[pure summit]

composition is overall very weird. The foreground is completely black, which makes it super heavy on the comp. I know it was getting dark, but in that case youre better overxposing to the maximum possible before burning and bringind down. Its a bit messy.

[pure summit]

Here better composition but weak subject in my opinion, I know train photography is often regarded the same as airplanes, but I am very confident there are ways to make it more creative and compelling. The train is almost on the third, but I would have shot from a lower Pov to enhance its proportions and have it exactly on the third intersection. Also, our eyes tend to scan pictures from left to right, if you come from a place in which you write from left to right. Therefore, its a good rule to have guiding lines coming from left and going towards the right side of the image. Here the opposite is happening. Also, the vanishing point of the line coming from left and the ones coming from right, is a pretty strong point our eyes are drawn to, having it in the middle of the image, usually, makes it boring

[last compass]

Thanks. I'll try to frame stuff to the left or right more, Though shadows were not on this side. I have gone a bit creative with my train photography. This one was just a bit boring

This was something I've been more creative with