Design Dojo

[chrome socket]

Bunch of empty space not being used

I love the style tho

[undone hornet]

what text

[chrome socket]

Exactly

[undone hornet]

it needs to be a bit bigger u have a point

i’m prob gonna do player of the week or smth

[chrome socket]

Yee, just manage your readable space down there a bit better and it’s solid

Another thing I would recommend is don’t use borders

Unless they are deep in the artwork

[undone hornet]

why not

[chrome socket]

I come from print

[undone hornet]

stranger things does it all the time bro

[chrome socket]

So in a print point of view, the closer it is to the edge, the harder it is to get a perfect cut

[undone hornet]

i see what ur saying

[chrome socket]

You can bring it in further

Like having a larger margin

Might also bring out the design more into focus

[undone hornet]

good to know thx for the advice

[undone hornet]

@chrome socket question for ya

how would i recreate this effect

[chrome socket]

What software are you using

[undone hornet]

photoshop

[chrome socket]

Best way is to do it in Illustrator.
make a gradient box with a Black channel only going to a white, go Filter > Pixelate > Color Halftone and make the first setting 30, or however big, then you can use that.
or go the extra mile and then image trace and use vectors (as you should do either way)

in photoshop its the same method, but you have to make your channels have the same angle

[undone hornet]

i got u. i’ll take a screenshot of this and then try it later

oh my god. you are the best ty so much

@chrome socket wait

this is not what i want bro

and i tried to switch it but it still aint doing it

why isn't red cirlces being created

[chrome socket]

you're gonna have to use it as a mask over a red background

realistically you shouldn't be doing those kinda graphics in photoshop, you put yourself in a performance bottleneck, aswell as you loose the ability to better adjust that specific kind of effect.
as well as loosing scalability.
you should do your image maskings and all that in Photoshop, and then making a composite setup in indesign and have elements either as .ai files or in the document as vectors

[undone hornet]

i just want red circles thats all i want bro

[chrome socket]

yeah, use the halftone gradient as a mask over a red background

[undone hornet]

ok

what are u talking abt bro

[chrome socket]

Mask...

make it a mask

see this is why photoshop is not the tool for this kinda stuff

too much of a fuckery, and you loose scalability

[undone hornet]

i did bro

[chrome socket]

group it and mask it, its a smart layer, that or rasterise the halftone, then use that as a mask

[undone hornet]

dude

[chrome socket]

you're also not using the halftone as a mask either

[undone hornet]

this is my second time doing this type of stuff

i need proper english

ayyy

i got it

[chrome socket]

here ya go

[undone hornet]

thx so much

[chrome socket]

I would recommend working on a hybrid workflow. both Vectors and Rasters (Mathematical Lines that can scale infinately and Images that cannot) have their benifits and weaknesses
doing this kinda stuff in photoshop alone can be limiting, especially if you are designing for print
Look into learning Photoshop more, but also look into learning Illustrator, it really helps in making those elements
and then look into InDesign, which allows you to completely tie all the elements together

[pastel rain]

if you want his leg going into the box

do a clean cut

not a halfway fade into the black

looks odd

[undone hornet]

good to know

thoughts?

[chrome socket]

I dont know why he has to be stepping.. ou... in?!
side ways out of a... uhh.. is he stepping in the rectangle? or out? or...

either way, I dont think the stepping in or out or to the side inside or outside of the window lookin thing helps the flow of the design

Im unsure what the background of the buildings have to do with the design either, he's clearly playing in a sport, not going to his 2nd math class of the day

and there just isn't alot of space being used, its alot of empty space for no apparent reason, like I said earlier, is he playing a sport or going to his 2nd math class of the day

[silver steeple]

hi dojo

been a while

thoughts?

[foggy jetty]

...

[silver steeple]

ok cool

[manic dragon]

My first time using Photoshop don’t judge me

Bruh no way my message didn’t send this whole fucking time

[pastel rain]

[chrome socket]

this is actually pretty cool

[steel acorn]

Hi, could i get some feedback on this school project im working on? Its a moodboard/brandboard for a brand based on me.

Project is called personal brand. Its for a portfolio class.

[chrome socket]

I love the style. however something I recommend to everyone is to design something, and sit back in your chair, give yourself some distance between the screen and yourself. and if you can't read or get a general idea of whats on the page in specific areas, then you still have work to do. alot of your text is super thin, and when printed or displayed, it may cause issues.

Something to note is that "PCS" means nothing to a person who doesn't actually know what Pantone is.
infact as a person who uses Pantone colors every day, I see "2203 PCS" and go "ok? am I using coated or uncoated? are we using extended gamut? whats going on here?"
I have incomplete information. the best way to denote pantones is by going "PMS: 2203 C" or "PANTONE 2203 C" or "2203 C"

something else to note is "Process Black" means CMYK Black, K black, which means Pantone CP/UP (Coated Process/Uncoated Process). aswell as a Hex #000000 is not a Process Black, it is actually a rich black. the correct hex for process black would be #231f20

apart from my nitpicking. I love the style

I enjoy the flow. and as a reference page, it is very nicely laid out, just the text could use a little more weight, and Color specifications could use more specificity

[steel acorn]

Thanks i appreciate

[chrome socket]

oh extra brownie points if you have Uncoated and Coated Pantones, some companies out there go the extra mile to match their coated's and uncoated's
as there can be a significant Delta E difference between the two.
for example you might have someone denote: "Pantone 124 C" and then maybe "Pantone 122 U"

You dont have to do this, I am nerding out atm, but something to think about, Color Accuracy is important for a Brand, and thinking about this sorta stuff is just an extra level of care 🥰

-# "Delta E" being the difference in appearance of a color compared to another

[lost summit]

We've recently had a client come to us with a NCS colour 😭

[static gorge]

the only thing i am going to say is that the green line across the images gotta go.

anyways so i am a beginner gfx designer started a few days ago.

[pastel rain]

classic

[lost summit]

Maximalism hurts my brain

[static gorge]

the last one is supposed to be minimalist

the grey one

[pastel rain]

too much going on for minimal

[static gorge]

software used: alight motion

[pastel rain]

noir vaporwave maybe

never heard of that

[static gorge]

is it good for a beginner

[pastel rain]

yah good job

keep going

& have fun

[static gorge]

maybe i will charge clients

how much do you think i should charge?

[pastel rain]

what do you want to make

socials banners?

[static gorge]

banners, pfps, thumbnails, ui elements, assets, and all that.

[pastel rain]

where are you in the wrold?

[static gorge]

turkey

but

i can get paid in other currencies

[pastel rain]

https://tenor.com/view/turkey-guy-turk-chad-fast-buff-gif-17075645

nice

we're neighbours

[static gorge]

what country?

[pastel rain]

georgia

[static gorge]

pretty closee

to my

city

in izmir

[pastel rain]

nice

i'd say you can charge anywhere 20$ - 100$ for this sort of stuff, depending on client / how big their following is. if they are trully big 100 - 500$ +

[static gorge]

how was this video even filmed in public.

[static gorge]

wow niceee

that is was more than what i would make with normal employment in turkey.

if i get consistent with it.

and serve many clients every week.

where do i get hired?

[pastel rain]

thats the hard part

graphic design is very competetive

you can check out platforms like fiver

upwork

freelancer

alternativly

go on youtube and google and look up "how to grow as a freelance graphic designer in 2026" - you will have to learn business, how to market yoruself, netwok

so it certainly takes work and you will build people skills

i assume you are young?

[static gorge]

i am 15

[pastel rain]

yah you got a lot of time

[pastel rain]

have fun, if you enjoy the business aspect of it, that will come in handy for life in general

[static gorge]

i release 2 versions of every design i do, where i fix some things up and do final touch ups to the previous version, this is the second version of the minimalist design.

[pastel rain]

for the words

to give you a bit of a direction

think about why you make a particular design

like why include roman columns here

why is it dark

is there a story

answering stuff like this should give you an idea of what kind of piece this is

and a title, - words to actually put back there to fit the design

[static gorge]

well, that will depend on what the client will request.

when i start taking comms

until then

[pastel rain]

i'm talking specifically about this peace

and yes, you are correct on that too

[static gorge]

i did not know what to put there

i just had this idea

[pastel rain]

talk me through your idea

[static gorge]

it adds to the dark atmosphere.

[pastel rain]

what makes roman colums dark?

(i'm doing this as a design excersize, nothing against you in any way)

[static gorge]

well the overall vibe was inspired by backrooms poolrooms, but i tried to make it dark, and gloomy, the roman collums instead of the poolrooms tile patterns, as well as the texture i used for the background and the base where the pillars are, which is literally just an edited texture of asphalt, adds to the grittiness, which helps the atmosphere, as for the glass orbs adding warping and distortion to the image, they helped to make the the entire thing look more surreal.

[pastel rain]

hmmm mhm

you could derive a few words from your explonation

[static gorge]

what do you mean by that?

well i am only just starting graphics design, BUT, i am definitely not good enough with any business skills yet to be able to operate in any kind of professional environment such as behance.

[pastel rain]

-you just started so thats ok

so instead of lorem ipsum you could write "liminal space" "dark atrium"
you can write things like "where light forgets its srouce"

idk

just gotta come up with interesting things to say

words are part of it

[static gorge]

i can change the text on the grey one but for the other one, it is too late, as i custom made the text.

[static gorge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1443985986605420685/1472580096022937732/1000039912.png?ex=69931696&is=6991c516&hm=3d29ef79929f74aaf94bf7500ae0a38c1a6a064fb44caeec4c8564969bcda934&

[chrome socket]

any context behind the style?

ages ago I made this for a project which later got called a different name, either way, the text follows the context of the planet specifically

I make the moon feel dusty, because it is.
you made venus seem like a cowboy town

venus is hot, do something with heat effects on the text

[static gorge]

wdym

cowbot,town?

[chrome socket]

If you are going with a theme, keep to that theme, keep it consistent, keep your pallet consistent. keep the 'vibe' consistent
this one here is a meh example, but the text keeps consistency with the theme

[chrome socket]

you're taking me too literally.
Im saying the style of text doesn't match everything else

[static gorge]

i tried to make it look like the surface of molten lava or the sun

[chrome socket]

looks like rusty metal, but feels too saturated aswell

(for rusty metal)

if anything I would make the text more gas like, but then again, not everyone can render text as a volume of gas

pretty hard to do that aswell and make it work

[static gorge]

for that i should have used an entirely different font

warp blur effect in alight motion should handle it

or idk

that's how i made the gas effect around the border

of the entire image

[chrome socket]

I would've made a smoke sim in the text

[static gorge]

does the frame effect look like smoke?

i am a beginner designer i started a few days ago

[chrome socket]

umm, no. flame is flame, smoke is smoke

[static gorge]

fRame

frame effect

frame around the picture

not flame

[chrome socket]

oh lol

no clue how a frame effect would look like smoke

I thought that was a typo

[static gorge]

oh ok

its like venusian atmosphere around the subject

is the only problem the text texture?

[chrome socket]

yup, know how to use houdini and cinema4d?

/s

[static gorge]

did /s mean sarcasm or serious

but if it means serious, then no, i use alight motion

(this is pre color correction)

yeah i am using a video editor as a photo editor

sooooooooooooooooo 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999iq moment

[chrome socket]

oh

I didn't know you were that limited

[static gorge]

wdym

[chrome socket]

hmmm

[static gorge]

i am a beginner of course i am limited

[chrome socket]

well I would've thought you were using photoshop or affinity

that way I could even walk though methods

but I can't

[static gorge]

i can make the text look like it is turning into gas or add a gas halo around the text or stuff like that with warp blur and bump map but i can see how alight motion is limited

but i am used to it

[chrome socket]

give it a try, I am genuinely curious on how it will look

[static gorge]

it's a very rough sketch

the image did not send

rough sketch it can be refined

@chrome socket and this is melting

and with a distortion effect

i think it can still be refined

[chrome socket]

😮

[static gorge]

good?

last one?

create text effect
copy paste it many times
stack warp blur effects to add distortion and drip
add another rectangle
make it black and give it a bump map
then blend it in with the text

then you have to save it
then you can use it by adding a chroma key effect with black color excluded

''black color excluded'' that sounded racist

it can be made transparent

but there is a downside to this

you have to create everything in a seperate element then save it and copy it over to the main project

becuase of how the distortion effect i added works

[pastel rain]

ouu nice

youre not using photoshop right?

and could you change the words here if you wanted - as in, did you work in a distructive or non destructive way?

non destructive means that effects are applied, but you can change the base layer

[static gorge]

alight motion

i am using alight motion...

and here is the original venus text melting

[static gorge]

destructuive

how i made the venus text was

i went into geometry dash and someone had a level with many free to use fonts, i grabbed one, and wrote venus with it and moved the letters around, then i screenshotted it againts a black background, then i moved it to alight motion and chroma keyed it to cut the black part out and put it over a big black square, then i applied exlcude blending option to have a black background with a cutout of the text, then i saved it and copied it over (sounds weird but was necessary), now i could add color to the text, gradients, and effects, after i added the textures and everything to it, i made the background green so i could chroma key it again, i saved the entire thing and chroma keyed it, so i had the text ready.

it sounds like a lot but it is not

this is how i make text effects in alight motion

i know this is extremely unorthodox, i dont know the right method, but i just know this is very unorthodox.

and btw, i dont mean the stock fonts, it was a ton of custom made free to use fonts.

BUT I AM ABLE TO HANDLE IT

[static gorge]

does anyone know where i can get clients

[static gorge]

@chrome socket does it look better now

[manic dragon]

What would y’all name this album cover?

[chrome socket]

metallic inc evidently

[manic dragon]

That’s the band name 🥲

[chrome socket]

lol

[static gorge]

this was for a client, it is unfinished.

https://imgur.com/EYmfOz4

[static gorge]

the client is named loaf

[static gorge]

https://imgur.com/bks2H6j

finished version

[static gorge]

the client really liked the final product

[pastel rain]

hell yah

[chrome socket]

Working on an annual

this is one of 7 school houses

[lusty geode]

sum recent stuff

[static gorge]

oh no

should i quit or should i continue

[pastel rain]

Nah keep going

[static gorge]

is my leica edit good?

i may reiterate it later as i do most of the time

improving stuff

[pastel rain]

Background is a bit busy

But yah

Try designing another format

That’s not a social media banner

Try a movie poster

Or concert flyer

[static gorge]

we will see as i just got a commission for some logo design.

[static gorge]

also wdym background is busy? how can i fix that?

i am not very good with backgrounds

[chrome socket]

Leica framelines don’t look like that,
Also I wouldn’t have 2 of the same text there, pick a Leica and go with one

[static gorge]

it's just leica text

[static gorge]

yeah these are the ones i wanted to fix actually

adding an actual leica frameline instead of a stock one

and removing the lecia at the top

but i think the current framelines look better for this specific application

https://i.postimg.cc/xdqq446s/1000040115.png also i added a glitch effect

[chrome socket]

the thing is, leicas dont record like a video camera. people who know what a leica is will look at this and go "those arent leica framelines"

the style is cool as fuck, but theres no genuine connection to what a Leica is

[static gorge]

well, it's not even supposed to look like leica a frame.

that big white block in the middle, i am not sure if it would fit the style of this.

and for this application specifically, the stock image i found off a google search just looks better.

and the only reason i chose leica was, well, it sounded cool, lol.

[chrome socket]

excuses excuses 😂
fair.
I just dont feel like it follows what a leica actually is, but thats just me.

but on that point, you will get clients that will say the same thing, and clients that have a brand guideline, or even guideline. do well to expect that later on

[static gorge]

leica's branding is supposed to be minimalistic.
also, this was mostly to just see if i could replicate that one random idea that came to my head.

and i chose leica as the text, well, BETTER THAN LOREM IPSUM.

anyways, also.

the original image is 590mp for some reason

mp being megapixels...

discord compressed it

so did the image hosting site i used.

but i have a version on my phone that is 590mp.

idk why...

WHY????

[chrome socket]

Oh I am aware. but their frame lines in general should be used in reference to their product. having rec time codes and non matching frame lines goes against their brand identity specifically for that product range, as their framelines are used as an element in their extended design language, especially in reference to the M line

Brand conformity is also important.

and my god you dont need a 590mp file 😂

[static gorge]

well, if this was a serious commission, i would follow the requests of the client, but this was production for the sake of it, and to see what i can make, build a portfolio, and get better.

this wasn't even a commission.

[chrome socket]

aye, aslong as you know

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[static gorge]

also, too late, i upscaled it to 1327mp

[chrome socket]

how is your computer not dead?!?!

you must have the only PC setup that rivals mine here

[static gorge]

i am on a mobile tablet

[chrome socket]

oh

[static gorge]

i know high mp doesn't mean good photo but come on, just zooming into a photo and keep seeing detail is so cool.

[chrome socket]

well it means you can print it on the side of a building

so in graphics design/print, can be handy, but right now? super overkill

[static gorge]

i know i know i am just doing it because it looks cool

so i will be trialhopping upscale.media like... I don't have any metaphors for this one...

[lusty geode]

yooo visually this is trippy as hell in a good way

recent concept yall might like

wow this is 4 months ago yet it feels very recent to me

[static gorge]

time is too fast...

even for me

and i am 15.

[static gorge]

i have it in 999terapixels now AND I AM NOW JOKING

-# its a vector file so it's infinite mps

[frozen dew]

So taking an image of something and exporting it as an SVG from a raw/png/tiff file, how detrimental would the quality be from expanding/shrinking the image after exporting it to SVG?

[chrome socket]

two different types of files

you can export an image as a SVG

however the svg will have the image in a container

if you size it up or down, it will be exactly as it is if it was any other image format

[frozen dew]

Ok, that's what I wasn't sure about

I know native built SVG's can expand and shring infinitely

But wasn't sure on the Image>SVG

[chrome socket]

yeah because the data is math

but an image, the data is an array of data

[frozen dew]

Danke Tom 🙏

[chrome socket]

SVG = Paths that can scale infinitely
Image = an array of data that can only be scaled so far till it looses quality due to the lack of data in that array

Image saved as a SVG = the application creates a frame of 4 points, and then places the image inside of that frame, meaning its still an image

[static gorge]

this was for a client

the client seems to be happy

[static gorge]

changed after some revisions

[lusty geode]

school funsies

[chrome socket]

Making handy UI for people who dont know what they are doing

Design is not just making things look cool, making things understandable is a different story

[drifting ember]

https://i.imgur.com/LesDcyk.jpeg

[undone hornet]

something i made

[drifting ember]

would look better if you copy pasted the horse icon, put it below the main horse icon, and used it as a mask in the background, then add inner blur so the entire background area behind the horse icon, but not the horse icon itself, would be blurred.

[undone hornet]

i could do that

[chrome socket]

Please use safety margins, move the text further away from the edge.
I know you may not print this or something, but having a safety margin of 5-10mm from the edge is a god send for print

also brings elements into view more, I barely saw the edge detail

also the name is in a silly place. are you trying to show the name or not? commit to it, throw the name in the middle. there is no hierarchy in the middle at all exept for the nicely placed background element that is the university sign

[lusty geode]

@undone hornet i think your elements are a bit all over the place, check this video out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QNEDhrsRLo

[lusty geode]

@chrome socket you got any resources about after effects, been messing around recently w vfx

mostly turning graphic art into motion

best ive come up with 30 minutes fucking around in AE

[chrome socket]

Plenty of YouTube videos out there.
What specifically are you wanting to do in AE

[lusty geode]

im not sure, what can ae do?

[chrome socket]

many things, it has keyframe editing, so you can tell objects to move in or out, move masks, theres alot one can do in after effects

[lusty geode]

so far feels like its photoshop but moving so im thinking maybe if i could add motion to my graphics

[chrome socket]

it pretty much can be

[drifting ember]

little do we know you kidnapped a real person, cut their body up to reveal their heart, filmed this video with one of those 2mp "macro" phone cameras, cut the background out, and added music.

[lusty geode]

who knows

[drifting ember]

oh who know? well i know.

[lusty geode]

bee

[drifting ember]

it looks like a print

especially with those, black balls, also, if anyone makes an explicit joke to this, i am going to assume you are below the age of 13.

[lusty geode]

i been messing

[pastel rain]

i like it

thought it was a real piece of grafiti

prty realistic

[lusty geode]

i should probably try that

issue is i suck at penmanship

[pastel rain]

same

projector>>>>

if you do it at this kind of scale

projector and just trace your digital work

a lot of ppl do it that way

[lusty geode]

these are very recent

[lusty geode]

dont you need like high power projectors for those

[pastel rain]

not if you do it at night

/in the dark

[pastel rain]

love it

i wish more ppl here would embrace going a lil wild with their edits like this

love the second to last the most

the swirl shot

[chrome socket]

halftoning is great

[pastel rain]

some of my vaporwave shii

alll old at this point

[chrome socket]

I've been UI desigining for the past like 3 weeks

[pastel rain]

idk if thats ui

[chrome socket]

well a user interfaces with something..

[pastel rain]

everything is ui by that definition

and has ui

[chrome socket]

not entirely, UI and UX are different things

well, one only exists with the other

fuck

you know what.. fuck you

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[lusty geode]

im happy the band loved it aswell they told me to do more of it next event which is in like a week

people liked it aswell

[lusty geode]

nice colors

[lusty geode]

hes like

an engineer

[pastel rain]

yes

[lusty geode]

and im sum graffiti artist

i do wanna get into graffiiti though, got a friend who tags

[chrome socket]

one day I will get back into making art for myself

[lusty geode]

graffiti looks fun getting arrested not so much

[chrome socket]

and everyone will bow to me and my skills!!!!

and thou shall know, who is the true, master!!

[lusty geode]

he speaks as he codes the next line of functional ui element

[pastel rain]

he makes some dope shit too

[lusty geode]

yes

filmic tom my goat

[steel acorn]

My new personal logos

[chrome socket]

😮
I like, though the Tertiary logo doesn't really share any queues with your main logo, makes me think its a different company/person

[steel acorn]

Yeah, i liked it too much though lol

[chrome socket]

I would also invest on getting pantone colors aswell sorted out

[chrome socket]

fair, just be careful with using it though, you may want to accompany it with your primary or secondary.. but thats the issue though, you generally shouldn't have to do that.
I do like it aswell! just wont be wise to use it, thats all

[pastel rain]

agree

secondary is wayyyyyyyyy to different

pick one and stick to it

second one is better imo

or the third one i suppose

lower case

go with that

[chrome socket]

thats not the issue, both primary and secondary can easily be used together to represent the same person/company
however the tertiary has no design queues shared with the others. this is an issue with branding.

Tertiary logos are actually used when both your primary and secondary logos are too large for a small use.
it looks cool, however it has no usecase in this scenareo. Not only does it cause brand conflict, it is also too small for when you would actually use it

My suggestion is to actually use the 'sail' like design only with the the colors alternating between one or the other/changing tint as it goes down per section of the sail icon, this acts as a dual colour safe icon that can be used as a tertiary brand mark

[pastel rain]

i was reffering to this as the secondary

the first two are def the same visual language

& ya i'm saying the same thing as you

i just misspoke

i would not call this a tertiery logo

its just compleatly different

this is also very northface

also the different spacing bothers me a lot

but personal nitpick

only time a company uses a different logo

is when they have a different enough thing to advertise

like how coca cola owns a bunch of other drinks

/pepsi

one of them own desani, and bunch of other juice/beverage brands

if you read the back you'll see its owned by one of them

but they dont advertise themselves

giving the thing its own branding

or when a corporation is big enough they have enough subsidieries

good example is google

multiple logos

but all similar visual language

all of these are coke owned

all with their own personality and product

no similar visual language, but all are typography based. minus that one lemonade one on the right

[drifting ember]

this was for a client

[lusty geode]

got these so far

[chrome socket]

Not using the darker Photoshop UI, using windows. and no Banana tool. cmon man

[lusty geode]

type shit lesgo i fw this heavy i think its is enough

oh wait fuck i forgot something

there we go

might add more elements to the guitar page idk

[chrome socket]

You should use Jpeg. mainly because its lighter, and supports both CMYK and RGB

[lusty geode]

oh yeah i havent changed that on my photoshop export settings yet

good call thanks

did that with lightroom recently

[lusty geode]

is there a specific style you were going for on this one this is kinda intriguing

[drifting ember]

it's a commission

the client once asked me to make the logo bigger

[lusty geode]

@half lichen @pulsar wasp

https://klipy.com/gifs/laugh-hand

[pulsar wasp]

Itchy bitchy
Not worms

[half lichen]

i hath been summoned

holy shit no wonder people prefer circular fisheyes over diagonals

[lusty geode]

i mean both have their use

[half lichen]

enlighten me

i am uninformed

[steel acorn]

Toaster poster

[pastel rain]

Love that

[lusty geode]

brutalist bake 🔥 🔥

someone cooked with the name

[silver steeple]

thoughts? feel like it looks dumb

i want it simple cuz its about the photo obv but would like to incorporate the logo someway

[pulsar wasp]

Does looks dumb

[chrome socket]

It’s not dumb, just unnecessarily present.

You’re already incorporating the logo already in the image itself.

I think it’s more the image itself that’s letting down the design, so much needless empty space that you feel like you need to fill it, and in efforts to make it simple, you end up moving the attention away from the bike anyways,
The bike has the logo on it, use that as inspiration

More so, when I think of red bull energy I think of action, and things happening, energy.

Not only you’re averting the eyes of the viewer away from the subject, you’re also giving them nothing to feel or relate with, a bike is supposed to be ridden, show it being ridden

[lusty geode]

did you try to make it look like wings? i see the vision here

[steel acorn]

What if the bull was lower opacity or something like that

So it doesnt fight with the bike

Or maybe clipping mask of the bike and do a different background

And like tom was saying, give it some more action/excitement

Like these with how people are celebrating

[lusty geode]

damn bro that 2nd poster straight outta 2012

[steel acorn]

I didnt make those two Redbull posters btw. Found them with a quick google search

[lusty geode]

@chrome socket yo i need some help tryna do a logo

this is what i came up with so far

the little draft they sent me

for context what they do is provide companies with videography services but cinematic style idk something like that

this is my first logo in a while i dont remember much

[chrome socket]

too obscure.
follow the draft they sent you. don't try to make a weird set of shapes that are hard to read

[frozen dew]

As someone with fresh eyes and not knowing what this was supposed to be about, if I hadn't read the image underneath I wouldn't have guessed it said Cine

[lusty geode]

alright thanks guys

i really kind of wanna make the C and E at the end look like spools of film

[chrome socket]

thats a question you should ask them

[lusty geode]

they did tell me im free to conceptualize my own shit but they're gonna send a tiny little draft aswell

guess ill try and make one for each

🥀

like dude i get this but holy shit that N looks like microsoft visual studio

but

i think i can make something out of it

[chrome socket]

Keep in mind of the printability

Thin lines turn into nothing when printed small

[lusty geode]

Oh shit right good call

Actually they liked the first one

💀

Ill try to fix the proportions with the lines and the spaces hopefully itll work out

[half lichen]

mhello @chrome socket! i call onto thee

[chrome socket]

[half lichen]

may i ask for assistance on this part now

text variables, or something were they?

[chrome socket]

yes. you need to set it up tho. go to:
Type > Text Variables > Define

then press New

give the variable a name

change the type to "Metadata Caption"

and change "Metadata:" to "Shutter"

should look like this

once you have added it, right click whilst editing a text box and go here

[half lichen]

oh Lord

i appear to have summoned Cerberi

[chrome socket]

a tip after that, I would do CTRL + B whilst clicked on the text box and set the vertical justification to bottom instead of top

so when you have an image you can extend the top of the text box over the image so the text variable will work

[chrome socket]

thats normal, that happens when there is no data being read

[half lichen]

how do i set the variable to look for data in a layer though?

[chrome socket]

you place the text box over the image

[half lichen]

over the image in the same layer, the two?

[chrome socket]

over the image

[half lichen]

what

[chrome socket]

and I believe it can be in a different layer

the text box goes over the image. the text box frame specifically

[half lichen]

this makes my head huurtt...

hang on i can figure this out

[chrome socket]

you have text in a text box right, you can extend that text box but the text itself is constrained to that text box

the box itself is looking for the data to read, you need to extend the text box over the image

[half lichen]

have i extended the wrong frame?

or

[chrome socket]

no you've done it correctly

its just the image itself has no metadata to read

[half lichen]

how the fu-

[chrome socket]

there is no shutter speed data in it

[half lichen]

it's right here though?

Lightroom doesn't wipe that sorta stuff

[chrome socket]

should be in there

[half lichen]

that does bring me to a question i've had though

[chrome socket]

is there a shutter value in there

[half lichen]

despite the fact that the image's dimensions is the same exact size as the file when i import it, it's smaller and upscaling it makes it low-res

the project's dimensions are 6000x4000 and so are the image that i imported

[chrome socket]

dpi vs document size

go to:
Window > Links

[half lichen]

ahm

[chrome socket]

yeah thats fine. if its under 72, then thats a problem

effective that is

[half lichen]

image still looks painfully low-poly though

is this a preview thing or something

[chrome socket]

right click

by default it sets itself to typical

[half lichen]

ah

that fixed it

huh, weird

also i may have found the perpatrator

[chrome socket]

yee no data

try your raw file

[half lichen]

yikes, would kill all the edits i made though, no?

-# for context if it wasn't already made clear this JPEG passed through Lightroom

[chrome socket]

but yeah with the display performance you can set the default in the settings

[chrome socket]

you could just add the metadata back into the jpeg via lightroom but that doesnt solve your problem in the long run

[half lichen]

the metadata on the file itself is intact, but when in InDesign it just disappears

wher i go

[chrome socket]

what you can do in the future is save your document as a TIFF or a DNG

that way you always have metadata preserved

or you can just manually type the speeds and so on, this text variable thing is just for automation. but is handy when it works

[half lichen]

sigh

i'm hoping at least then TIFFs are supported just about everywhere like JPEGs are?

[chrome socket]

I mean at the end of the day you can export the indesign file as a jpeg

[lusty geode]

@chrome socket this is cool, figured id share it with you

https://www.instagram.com/i._.dsgn/

readability be damned i guess but still

[chrome socket]

😮

Readabillity is not the point here

[lusty geode]

yeah tbh i love the expressionism

[lusty geode]

@chrome socket yo is there some sort of math i could do to make the red rectangle as wide as the blue rectangle and green circle

[chrome socket]

1. Find the furthest-left point
2. Find the furthest-right point
3. Get the difference between them
4. Set the red rectangle’s width to that difference
5. Move the red rectangle so its left edge starts at the furthest-left point

the issue is you might have colliding geometry...
I would just redesign and average the distances with your circumference in mind

[lusty geode]

i just ditched it entirely

[drifting ember]

i thought these were geometry dash hitboxes

the level "unknown" has a part with blue hitbox on top of spikes like this one.

[drifting ember]

i tried to do something FAST and SIMPLE

also you have to click to see it in full detail

discord hides it from preview

[chrome socket]

marble north-east

or south-west

looks cool tho

but like I always say to people: MARGIN

[drifting ember]

yeah i know it's uneven

i fucked up

[drifting ember]

north is my name

here it is with slightly better margins

does it look like marble

[chrome socket]

yay some margin 😄

[chrome socket]

with you telling me that the texture is, I would say sure

but in a vacuum, it doesn't entirely give me the feeling of marble

[drifting ember]

white features are too big?

that sounded racist

[drifting ember]

i couldn't see that there was no margin in the editor app only after posting it on discord and viewing it there i could see that mistake but i didn't bother fixing it until someone pointed it out.

[chrome socket]

I dont really see the general connection. the black and white is too much of a contrast difference fro me to note if it is marble or not, just looks like turbulent flow to me.

it also doesn't help that your text is hard to read in general

[chrome socket]

margin is a fundamental in design, not being able to control that or be informed by a margin is a disadvantage

[chrome socket]

focus on your idea more physically. people relate to stuff like marble with physicality, something they can touch. when its too abstract you often remove that tactility or feel you get with the idea you're trying to convey.

heres something I just quickly made in illustrator. nothing crazy as I could definately do a better job, but I would go this route, something physical rather than abstract. the idea right there for the user to understand rather than have to figure out themselves

[drifting ember]

bro i just want to make money from gfx design

my 16th birthday is super close and i am still broke

[drifting ember]

i am not doing gfx design for fun i barely even enjoy it

[chrome socket]

thats a shame, I got the impression from your other stuff that you enjoy doing it.
if thats the case, if you want to make money from gfx design, the bigger contracts you could get out there require dedication to the craft, understanding, the ability to design a brand or to conform to a brand standard.
if thats what you want to earn money from, you need to be into it.

[drifting ember]

nanosecond

[chrome socket]

?

[drifting ember]

if the final product looks like something that could push me towards earning more money (getting better at it in a way i can actually build a portfolio to land paying contracts) then there is a little bit of enjoyment in that, but i am nowhere near the level of making money yet.

even if i could there is no way for me to recivie payments

[chrome socket]

grow your portfolio, and applicable skills. Industry standard skills
I assume you're unable to recieve payment due to not being able to open a bank account.
which is fine, just build skills and a portfolio/CV

I say build industry standard skills because you may not be able to sustain freelance income with graphic design, so its always best to appeal to the people who would employ you into their own company.

not gonna lie, doing graphic design on your own can be pretty shallow in return sometimes

[drifting ember]

i will try to get a job in the engineering field via university before, but that will take 2 more years of highschool, 4 years of university, a year or two of summer between high school and university and maybe taking time to find a job, so i will be like 22-23 by then, way too long for me, and i have heard of and seen people make decent money from graphic design.

[drifting ember]

brooo if you live in turkey for 1 week if you were turkish citizen you see why money is important to me. it's because i am from a third world country and like.

[lusty geode]

@chrome socket

after some back and forth with the client (which thankfully enough was a pretty close friend of mine)

we landed on this

kind of freeballing my shit here but im not too deep into logo design, but im happy to learn more into it if you've got anything to throw at me

we still have room for revisions anyway

[chrome socket]

Get yourself some pantones

[lusty geode]

those are the colors they gave me

😭

[chrome socket]

Give them the closest match

Hex values don’t transfer between different mediums correctly

Every design brief I do, I include Pantone colors as a suggested closest match, or straight up just using them

(Also super important for those weirdos who want Fluro colors in their branding)

Anyways these are awesome!
I would have a tertiary logo tho, for small, square based designs

Would also include do’s and dont’s of using the logo

Biggest advice I can give when doing rebrands or brand design is always design in a vacuum, always assume someone else will be guided from your design

but to travel back to Pantone. I know its an expensive system, but it works in practice very well.
if anything get yourself a Pantone Coated Color Bridge Booklet, it is your color reference best friend as it gives you hex codes/rgb and CMYK values for your match.
countless of times I have had a meeting with clients and they are unsure what color they want to use, or they already have a color, but want to ensure their colors are generally uniform across their entire brand, and having that book handy has saved hours of explanation and fine tuning.

[lusty geode]

what should a tertiary logo look like

[lusty geode]

also thanks for the heads up regarding pantone, will look into it and definitely let them know because even i is kinda sketched out with these colors lol

[chrome socket]

a super simple 1:1 aspect ratio logo

[lusty geode]

does it have to be strictly 1:1 ratio

[chrome socket]

preferably yes. the idea is that it gets used in a situation where you cannot have a wide logo, or if the logo is way to small

think favicon for a website

[lusty geode]

aight i got it

i have a very

cool idea

slight issue tho

i need to redo the entire logo rotated by 45 degrees because the way i made it i kinda lost the accurate measurements halfway through

https://klipy.com/gifs/enel-sucks--k01KQCW2QKNGFM8TJG90BRB97TF

so like its a little wonky right now

there is definitely some sort of design principle shit im missing because i just couldnt get the measurements right

ah fuck it whatever

@chrome socket how does this pantone coding system work 😭

[pastel rain]

what you trying to do?

[lusty geode]

get a pantone color into a logo

but uhhh

[pastel rain]

just input the hex

[lusty geode]

oh is it the same wtf

im stupid

[pastel rain]

0b3499

[lusty geode]

thats the color im tryna find a pantone match for

[pastel rain]

ahh ok

661c would seem to be closer

286c is a bit brighter

this will be printed?

[lusty geode]

its for a logo so im assuming yeah it eventually would end up on prints on different materials maybe even textile for uniforms etc

lucent white looks so much better than the weird cyan-ish white they chose

goddamn

[chrome socket]

when filling an object with a pantone, ensure that it is a spot color with the pantone color. otherwise all you're doing is making a reference to what the color should be, not actually making it that color
pantones should be their own seperation, that way when a user copies the logo and pastes it elsewhere it carries that data.

Dont use Pantone CMYK Coated. use Solid Coated

if you're using CMYK coated, you're just wasting everyones time

[lusty geode]

so does the hex work or

[chrome socket]

using Solid Coated should tag the color as a spot color

[chrome socket]

no, just write the hex code down for refernce, and set the color as the pantone solid coated color

[lusty geode]

OH IM STUPID

ITS UNDER SPOT

[chrome socket]

when it comes to the object itself it should be the pantone color directly

never make the object have a Hex code

[lusty geode]

the white i chose is a TPG is that okay or does that conflict with anything

[chrome socket]

Keep it to Solid Coated/Uncoated

TPG and all that are a different standard

[lusty geode]

ohhhh okay okay

[chrome socket]

Solid Coated/Uncoated can be referenced by the production worker working on a print/embryoid later on and matched accordingly

[lusty geode]

im cooked then

[chrome socket]

actually you're not

You can use Tint

though it can cause problems if its not print, like paper print

signage can also use tint

but embroidery might have some challanges

let me explain tint...

so because pantone colors are their own color, they are their own seperation. seperate to every other channel. they can also have their own level of intensity

that intensity is tint, and is basically how much that color is mixed with white/how much that color is actually there

so you can take your primary color, which is blue, and make it like 7% tint

(this also saves money for the client believe it or not)

[lusty geode]

oh mah gah bro

what is this

they turned my 64 set crayolas into fucking zodiac signs

[chrome socket]

huh?

[lusty geode]

the names right next to the coding system is just so fucking funny to me

its like they're constellations or some shit

like kepler 419b as a planet something something

[chrome socket]

yeah thats a different system

[lusty geode]

why is this

[chrome socket]

because printing like offset printing, is pay per channel aswell

1 pantone color, but at a specific % for other colors in their design, means one less channel they have to pay for

[lusty geode]

ooooooooo

this is great news

i could just find a cool hue and reduce the tint then

like this does the trick

[chrome socket]

so as an example, you have a black background with your logo
without pantone that is CMYK regardless. you're paying for all those channels regardless if you're using it or not. so lets say 10 bucks per channel (unrealistic)

but with a pantone. you seperate out the colors you dont need because they are their own color.
so in that image there, instead of 4 channels. its just 2. thats 20 dollars

2 channels being Black (Pantone Black). Blue (Pantone 661 C or whatever)
and the white is just that Blue at 5% or something like that

[lusty geode]

this feels weird that all this sounds new to me considering ive somewhat worked graphics in the sports apparel industry for like 4 years now and ive never heard of them use pantone for jackshit

i thought pantone was just what moms look at when buying paint or something (which im not really wrong tbf)

[lusty geode]

they want my shit in rgb too

[chrome socket]

not only is it a meme for a company naming colors, but the system actually has a reason why it exists

[chrome socket]

Pantone Covers both CMYK and RGB

thats the beauty of the system

it is its own isolated color. using LAB as a base
there for it converts to both subtractive and additive spaces smoothly and accurately

and its something a person can reference

[lusty geode]

this is so fucking cool

i love their website too

[chrome socket]

theres no "how should this color actually look like?!?!" when you can say "this is what it should look like"

[lusty geode]

literal designer heaven right here

[chrome socket]

you've probably noticed their swatch booklets

[lusty geode]

i have yeah

[chrome socket]

those are the most handy things ever

because you give that to your client and get them to choose

[lusty geode]

how do i indicate the tint on these do i just like type out "50% tint"

[chrome socket]

yup

Oh... umm

ok so the idea with the whole single color thing I pointed out earlier, both colors should be the same color

[drifting ember]

reshade off vs on

[chrome socket]

just at a low tint, and then have that other one as a fallback just incase

[lusty geode]

this is about using tint to cut costs right

[chrome socket]

Yup

but keep the 658 as an fallback option

[chrome socket]

gg

[lusty geode]

286 at 5% tint

[chrome socket]

Fuck yeah

[lusty geode]

dude thats almost indiscernable

holy shit

[chrome socket]

You see why I get paid for this shit!?!?

[lusty geode]

and bro is teaching a random on discord for free

🔥

absolute goat

[chrome socket]

but yeah keep that fallback for situations where tint is generally neglectable. but the idea is that on print media, you save on channel space

[lusty geode]

i wonder how close i can close this gap

[chrome socket]

it also means the printer operator only needs to match/reference to one color
makes their life easier

[lusty geode]

[chrome socket]

Keep it above 5%

[lusty geode]

oh my god 😭

guess what

its fucking perfect at 6%

dude

the normal person would have to look HARD with gigasquinted eyes

[chrome socket]

something I should also tell you. generally speaking your screen is fine to reference this stuff, however always treat Spot colors as a "this will be that color" not a "this is what the color will be"

[lusty geode]

so i guess those paper swatches they sell can really be handy huh

[lusty geode]

i dont think you can tell this apart on print too actually

like practically speaking

i should probably try

[chrome socket]

yeah I am just saying for future, for pantones, dont use your screen as a reference point, the idea is that the spot color just says to the printer/operator "hey, this is what that color should be, check the book for the reference"

also helps that most printers have the pantone lookup table installed in them, so its usually a automatic process if you ignore the fine tuning.
but this is just getting into the nitty gritty about print

ALSO I have been throwing both "Spot" and "Pantone" around
to clarify.
Pantone is a Spot Library

[lusty geode]

whats the issue with tint though, like why would it ever be unavailable if the whole system is basically universal

[chrome socket]

dependant on how its being used. embroidary for example. you can have pantone matched string, but you cant just perfectly bleach out a certian amount of that color that makes that string that pantone color

[lusty geode]

ahhhhhhh i see

[chrome socket]

for most scenarios, its perfectly fine

and its proof proof.. proof proof?!?!?! its reference proof to an extent.
generally speaking tint is just saying "use this amount of that color"
you're applying a linear modifier to say how much of that color should be there.
I can go into the nitty gritty of it, but that then becomes printer/operator specific nonsense you dont need to know

[lusty geode]

big brain moment

i took inspiration from the british

just turn it sideways bro

not perfect but it fits nice and snug

@chrome socket 🗣️ 🔥

should probably fix the formatting on the document side but this shit will look good printed 🔥

this is so out there for me icl but it was fun

500 drafts

[chrome socket]

Umm so the the tertiary should be a very simplistic version of the logo, like a circle with half each color with a film strip in the middle

It’s like a logo that they could use, not a logo they will use

[lusty geode]

oh yikes what

[chrome socket]

Like a logo they can use for a 1:1 pattern, like imagine like checker plate sorta patterns, or like if they need to put their logo on the tip of a pen cap

Those sorts of odd situations

[lusty geode]

can it like

just be a film strip

simple enough yeah

[chrome socket]

Sure

[lusty geode]

mmmmmm marbl

[lusty geode]

@chrome socket what are your thoughts on this

Naga province of the country updated their tourism logo

people say the G looks a little too forced but i think its genius

its a chili on a red background

chili is one of their uhhh largest exported products i think

[chrome socket]

i like!

[chrome socket]

Love building prepress tools. cut marks measurements are so handy

[lusty geode]

perfect timing, was just gonna ask what a company email signature should have and look like

although thats for a card isnt it

[chrome socket]

Huh? No this is just for a folder
It’s the spine for a folder

There is no company signature here

[lusty geode]

oh

[steel acorn]

Finished my design classes. Heres my current portfolio that we made.

Each page is 11 by 17

[pastel rain]

love the colors

[drifting ember]

do i need to go to a design school to get a job in a design agency

or is just trying to get good by yourself enough

bro i don't even have skill in anything

[steel acorn]

Dont think so

[chrome socket]

Generally no.
most places look at your portfolio and experence

[drifting ember]

@chrome socket give me promopts on what to make please idk what to make.

[pastel rain]

make a magazene cover for your favorite music artist

[drifting ember]

like a cover for an album or a single?

like

yeah i understand

i will try when i have time to plan everything

[drifting ember]

what aspect ratio is that

[pastel rain]

part of the job

figure it out

what would you need to look up to find that?

[chrome socket]

Don’t start with aspect ratio, that informs you of nothing when it comes to design.
Get your dimensions and then use a 10mm margin

[drifting ember]

broooo i finished it but it's not very good

[chrome socket]

Let’s see

[drifting ember]

it's so bad i might have to blur it

[chrome socket]

A very square magazine

But it looks cool

[drifting ember]

more of a cover...

[chrome socket]

Magazine cover was the assignment

[drifting ember]

my discord is breaking down

[chrome socket]

But I like the look of it, would be cool for an album cover

[drifting ember]

when lasha said "part of the job, figure it out" i kind of interpreted it as i could use a different aspect ratio

is this actually worth putting on a portfolio

[chrome socket]

A square book would look cool I guess

I’ve made them before

Just often aren’t referred to a magazine

[pastel rain]

what is this?

[chrome socket]

Lasha!

[pastel rain]

hi hi

if this was an assignment about designing a magazene cover

you would have just failed

[chrome socket]

I was gonna say that exactly, but I’m tired and sneepy

[pastel rain]

try again

to make a magazene cover

[drifting ember]

in my defense, square magazines are a thing.

anyways

[drifting ember]

i think it can be edited to be expanded to a different aspect ratio so i don't have to remake the whole thing

not stretching

but

manually editing

from what there is

[pastel rain]

ok

bit of direction

https://magazineshop.us/cdn/shop/files/TIM241014_Cover-Jaylen_01_15d72983-6237-4241-9c2b-b3d4c27b035c.jpg?v=1728320626&width=720

time magazine is prob one of the famous ones

either way when you look at a magazene there are a few elements

its usually featuring one key person

the title of the magazene

maybe who the person is

and a bit of text

about some articles that you may expect to see in a magazene

[pastel rain]

even in your referances, no magazene is square

maybe 4:5 ar

but even those look more like books

pay attention to composition

and hirarchy

include a person

lmk if you have questions

[drifting ember]

so if what i did wasn't a magazine cover, then what is it?

[pastel rain]

looks more like a instagram post

side by side

i'm not seeing any elements of a magazene

would deliverance be the title of your magazene?

[drifting ember]

is it good for what it is

[drifting ember]

"and in that light i find deliverance" is like a nickname for one of the songs made by the music artists shown below.

[pastel rain]

whos the music artist?

[drifting ember]

silentroom and frums

[pastel rain]

walk me through your process of making it, what was your goal?

[drifting ember]

2 people

[drifting ember]

well my main goal was to make a cover image for this specific piece.

which i interpreted as a magazine

[pastel rain]

like a song?

or whats the pice

[pastel rain]

i'm not familiar with them

[drifting ember]

music, yeah.

[pastel rain]

would the community that listens to this music recognize it?

[drifting ember]

the 2 symbols shown on the lower half are their logos.

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for sure.

[pastel rain]

ok thats good

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and in that light i find deliverance

[pastel rain]

and thats the name of the song?

[drifting ember]

"aegleseeker"

[pastel rain]

and what does this mean

[drifting ember]

if you listen to the music, these are the words spoken right before the main drop.

[pastel rain]

ok thats cool

so

what you have successfully done here, is make a cool cover for a single

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which are the only words in the entire song if you don't count mashups

most of which aren't official

so yeah these are technically the entire lyrics for it.

[pastel rain]

ok

lets focus back on the design

do you see what i mean by this beang a cover for an album? or would you argue its still for a magazene?

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when i said this was a magazine i also said that i misinterpreted it as one.

so yeah i made this mistake before i started the job.

by misinterpreting the entire thing.

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ok

are you interested in making a magazene cover?

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which includes the elements of a related individual and titles of the related articles along with the title of the magazine itself.

[pastel rain]

no

you do not need to make an entire magazene

just a cover

[drifting ember]

i know i know

the cover includes these

[pastel rain]

technically yes

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like you said here

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very minimal

this just lists names

and who wrote them

so in your case for example

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that's my weak point

[pastel rain]

you can do it

i believe in you

lets say you pick Mesi to make a football magazene about, you can just put in that little side thing "also read about Ronaldo"

[drifting ember]

but this kind of design is what brings in the most money anyway

[pastel rain]

thats it

well, magazenes are dead now

but its good practice

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i mean, minimalist designs.

[pastel rain]

minimalism is also on its way out

but yes

[drifting ember]

i heard UI UX at some agencies pay 6 figures.

[pastel rain]

yes they do

would you like a UI challange instead?

[drifting ember]

i will try to do a magazine cover but idk who to make it about.

[pastel rain]

hmmm

is there an actor that you like a lot? or a sports player? an olympian maybe? or someone famous from your country?

could also be your family or friends, someone you can easly get a photo of

[drifting ember]

i will try when i get the chance but school is starting tomorrow

[drifting ember]

i will try

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maybe later

it's 04:45am right here

[pastel rain]

ok. just keep in mind, this is a magazene cover you need to design. i'll give you one more way to look at it

think about your schools year book

maybe you could do a mockup cover design for the 2026 yearbook

[drifting ember]

well we don't have that

[pastel rain]

and you could be one to bring the idea forward

and design the whole thing

that would be cool

and a cool thing to have on your resume