Design Dojo

[pastel rain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iHFNXG4XXc

this one similar as well, but it liquifies and does funky colors

[soft sun]

It's so annyoing that I can't tell what's AI generated or not anymore buit I'm willing to bet that that m4 is ai generated

[soft sun]

Yeppp tahnk you so much

[pastel rain]

ye could be, or a video game screenshot

idk how good AI is at specific car models

[soft sun]

Either way I prefer actual photographs by a mile

[pastel rain]

[soft sun]

Alright

I got something

Not too bad but I don't like it very much I feel like it's kinda in the same style as the other ones

[soft sun]

What do you think?

[pastel rain]

looking good

the orange smoke i guess you kind a put there as a burnout

it looks off angle and does not fit too well

other then that

bit too tight with the logo around the edges

gotta give it some breathing room

i would shrink the logo down to equal the width of the "570S" text

other than that good deal

maybe add a black > transparent gradient on the bottom

fade some of that road out

[soft sun]

Yep

[soft sun]

That would have been good yeah

I agree with all you said lol but I already moved on to another design

Which I find pretty cool

This is getting addicting

[slow badger]

Middle bottom image is a bit low contrast and sticks out weirdly from the other images

kinda blends into the background

Odd one

Are the photos all yours?

[soft sun]

Yep

[soft sun]

Alright yeah I see

[pastel rain]

ouu @cedar rapids

i like this new indesign cover

looks like 2025 versions are rolling out for CC

[cedar rapids]

I think this has been rolling out for a week or so now…?

Had it happen for Media Encoder.

[pastel rain]

yeee

[chrome socket]

oh thats cool!

oh crap I need to read the developers posts for this update for my tools 😅

[obsidian echo]

ok, does this look decent besides missing the "v"? be gentle

[pastel rain]

how did you make this?

and how will it be shared

printed? digital? etc

[pastel rain]

well, overall just heavy with text

one thing i can reccomend is design is to keep the text to a minimum if possible and give it some breathing room

bot the key things pop out well

weekend job

17 an hour

first come first server

honestly you could drop the rest other then the contact info

and put a call to action > like visit our website, or call to learn more

something along those lines

[chrome socket]

one massive thing is that I dont even know what to read first

theres no flow

[pastel rain]

i just really want to know what was used to make it

[chrome socket]

theres a design principle called K.I.S.S
stands for Keep It Simple Stupid

most cases a poster like this benifits from being simple rather then layout all of the details. you can keep all the main points, but include additional info as fine print at the bottom

another thing is flow, this starts from the top and then goes to the right, but then theres text on the left which I feel should be at the very end

aswell as cutting off an image

[pastel rain]

well, hopefully adam is back to respond

[chrome socket]

Yee

also another point is that a call to action should be highlighted, or pointed out a little more prominantly

which you also pointed out 😅

[pastel rain]

, i'd replace the "first come first server" with the CTA

[chrome socket]

Should go:
Flexible Weekend Job
$17/Hour
<<Short Detail>>
First Come, First Serve
CTA
<<Fine Print Details>>

I wouldn't put "Easy Money" that attracts the wrong kind of people

[pastel rain]

mm true, did not think of that

you'll get a lot of lazys

[chrome socket]

oh and another small thing, keep it to 2 fonts

have a heading font, and a sub text font
that sub text font can use different weights whilst the heading font is your bold text

[pastel rain]

will adam respond? will adam read this? find out next on dragon ball Z

[chrome socket]

Will Tom ever shut up about design?
find that out on the next episode of "How I met your Graphic Designer"

I soo, need to fix my indesign script for ID 2025 😢

[pastel rain]

lmao nah i like your insights

we're on the same page tho

[pastel rain]

wish there was a graphic design server as active as this one

[soft sun]

The titles look AI generated lol

[pastel rain]

yes they do

thats why i wanna know what he used

[soft sun]

By the way

[pastel rain]

mmm

[soft sun]

I finally did another photoshoot

With a ferrari 488 spyder this time

[pastel rain]

prty cool

[soft sun]

I had this type of idea

But I don't know how to execute it

I tried stuff

But nothing seems to match

[pastel rain]

that yellow is a lot

[soft sun]

To add the text I mean

[pastel rain]

and i'd drop the graphic on the bottom

[soft sun]

Yep agreed

[pastel rain]

straighten your pic as well, leaning to the right rn

[soft sun]

The thing is I don't want to do the same design twice so I don't just want to add a text behind the car and call it a day

I tried putting it on like a donut shape on the graphic on the bottom it looked awful

[soft sun]

Oh yeah mb

[pastel rain]

thats good tho

you get more practice that way

umm

well at this point it goes back to doing some research

one thing you can do, if you have exausted car advertising / design

is go look at shoes

and what they do

lot of running/basketball/nike/adidas will have cool ads

other brands as well

[soft sun]

That's a good idea thanks

[pastel rain]

so thats worth checking out

also very crude but

something like this

perhaps

[soft sun]

I agree that the yellow is a bit too much but Not a fan of the idea of removing it as a whole, although Ireally like the idea of removing the excess green on top

[pastel rain]

you could do similar with the yellow

just a strip

as thick as the red/green

or increasing in thickness to the logo

something like this, more of an arc

ehh

thin strip might just be better

fun to try stuff tho

do your thing

[soft sun]

Looks pretty nice imo

except the text I'm gonna change the font

[pastel rain]

idk how i feel like aboutt the point your making with the red/white/green

i'd say follow the curve of the logo

[soft sun]

I like the way it's increasing

[pastel rain]

i mean this right here

if thats what you're also talking about

[soft sun]

It's not what I was talking about

[pastel rain]

i do like your edges

[pastel rain]

but i was reffering to this point here

[soft sun]

Oh

I don't quite get it then 😅

I should probably remove the white line though

between the two greens

[pastel rain]

yes that

and

the top of the logo is curved

but your line art is pointed

so i'm saying to curve your lines

instead of have them come to a point

[soft sun]

ohh

[pastel rain]

i think i'm mkaing it more confusing with that graphic

[pastel rain]

ahhh i see

ok

[soft sun]

I see what you mean though

[pastel rain]

i'm not cracy about how that sits there

really fights with the edge of the green up arrow

also goes against the oposite curve that the lines create

2 things you can try

• one is bring the logo down to sit above the black and mask out the logo so we see the sky behind id - kinda like a cutout basically. this might be too tight
• option two is curve the letters the oposite way to follow the contour of the green line

idk if any of these will look better but wroth a try perhaps

[obsidian echo]

Online local high school job board. Students look at it for work.

[obsidian echo]

Chatgpt. Then I heavily edited the text in ms paint

[obsidian echo]

I just don't have certain workers come back.

[pastel rain]

ahh interesting

[pastel rain]

if you have photoshop that will be a better tool to use

if not GIMP will do the job as well

a YT tutorial or two

Canva actually

will be the best free tool

[obsidian echo]

I kinda wanted to submit this yesterday though

I was debating just screenshoting the text only directly off ms word

[pastel rain]

will this be printed?

[obsidian echo]

No. I don't think the high school prints anything

Maybe they do

[pastel rain]

well, if you take our advice and lighten it up that will be good

and you can do it for free on canva

otherwise it sounds like you're ready to hand this in

[obsidian echo]

I paid $50 for that :)

[pastel rain]

tiny text is too tiny

but looking good

[obsidian echo]

I agree, but I had spent like 30 minutes with the guy I was paying already

I mentioned the text was small in various parts

[chrome socket]

This is better but text like the “no experience required” being tilted is just not a good design decision

Should be under the flexible weekend job

[pastel rain]

general advice to working with a designer

its best to give them the copy of what you want your design to say

the resolution

and any key elements you'd like present

and leave them up to it

this should take no more then 5 minutes

micromanaging a designer does not end with good results

this is how it is

[soft sun]

Ahh I see yeah

Curving the other way would make it look weird though imo

For the text I really had no original ideas so I just stuck with what usually works

[soft sun]

Hmm now there is a big empty space under the logo til the text but I can't add anything there

[soft sun]

meh

[upbeat leaf]

Looks ai generated

[pastel rain]

alternatlively you can make it a 1 : 1 AR

also dont like the feathered brush on the bottom

looks very amaturish

so i'd go for clean bold lines

[pastel rain]

ye for sure

[soft sun]

Understandable

[soft sun]

Yeah I could actually

[pastel rain]

only thing i

i'd say is to done down the red on the main pic a bit

[soft sun]

Alright yeah will do thanks

[soft sun]

Heyy

I don't know if this is the correct channel for this question

But how would you go about replacing the sky/ground on a car image?

On photoshop ofc

[pastel rain]

Photosho has “sky replacement”

Otherwise, good ol generative fill for the ground

[soft sun]

And how would I go about replacing the whole background

I tried that and...

Yeahhhhhhh 😅

[pastel rain]

this is mostly fine

just gotta fix the masking on the car

[soft sun]

really?

[pastel rain]

just fix masking here

[soft sun]

I've got no idea how to do that

[pastel rain]

take screenshot of your workspace

including layers panel

and i'll lyk

[soft sun]

Also the thing is the sky doesn't look realistic at all

[pastel rain]

mmmm ye

but does it have to?

it is a real sky

perspective is just off

you're gonna click on that mask

[soft sun]

Yep

[pastel rain]

make sure its selected

[soft sun]

And erase?

[pastel rain]

then using your brush tool, make sure the colors are set to black and white

[soft sun]

with a smooth brush

or paint black mb

[pastel rain]

not all the way

a tiny bit of smoothness

[soft sun]

Alright

[pastel rain]

like 85 ish hardness

and just brush over the window

that should fix it

if it does not!

make a mask layer on the folder "sky replacement group"

and use the same method on that mask

[slow badger]

hello

need some helps

[restive flint]

hi

i can perhaps help some

[slow badger]

what r ur thoughts

I'm struggling mostly with like everything idk what the hell im doing I like making lil posters sometimes

it's the rain

and everything idk

[restive flint]

do you have something youre like trying to make/inspo things?

[slow badger]

like an 80s teen flick

I didn't look at anything to inspire it

[pastel rain]

But too much noise I think

But otherwise you’re on the right track

[chrome socket]

this would be a bitch to print

[slow badger]

the water looks crazy shutter speed was too low

[slow badger]

it's tragic for sure the water just looks like hell of a lot of grain

and there is grain as well but not the cool grain

[pastel rain]

i need some layout inspo

testing out a two column layout rn

perhaps that title for the section is too big

but idk. testing out best way to lay out this text heavy doc

[restive flint]

yea i think so tbh

the margin between boxes seems small

[pastel rain]

i'll try extending them

[chrome socket]

What software you using?

[pastel rain]

indesign

[chrome socket]

Good stuff! That it all 🤣

If you have any questions feel free to ask me, I am literally qualified to teach this software 😂

[cedar rapids]

What kind of a question is this? 😭

Do you not see the guides?

They’re InDesign colors.

Who else uses colors like that?

🤨

[chrome socket]

Affinity

[cedar rapids]

Oh. Eww.

[chrome socket]

IKR

nah Affinity is great, but I once tried to teach someone indesign, just to find out they were using Affinity Publisher

which is great and all, and the knowledge is kinda transferable, but its the small things that matter

[pastel rain]

i am happy with these pages in particular

[chrome socket]

why you viewing this in view seperations mode?

[pastel rain]

cuz you can tell where the bleed starts ||i did not know that was a feature ||

[chrome socket]

this looks awesome, though my main concern is what kinda book is this?

[pastel rain]

its is a research report for an university

[chrome socket]

how is it getting bound? how many pages?

[pastel rain]

50+

stapled

this is the second one i'm making

i've done one before

[chrome socket]

landscape saddle stitched

is this a left hand page or right hand?

[pastel rain]

not sur wym

[chrome socket]

when the book is open what side is this page on

[pastel rain]

big data will be on the right

[chrome socket]

Oh you got facing pages on

[pastel rain]

previous one

[chrome socket]

ok awesome

I would highly recommend adding more gutter inbetween the pages for the text

if that makes sense

[pastel rain]

it does

you think its too tight?

this is about 85% of the pages

give or take the graphic

will also be adding numbers on the button for each page

[chrome socket]

sorry, I am being too vocal in the way I am explaining this as It makes sense to a printer but not much to a designer in the way I said it

so you have an inside margin and an outside margin right?

inside should be more than the outside

[pastel rain]

yes, my printing knowledge stops right after hitting the print button

the white here is all inside, and gray is all outside/bleed

the top is a bit tight perhaps

i can move it all down

if thats what you mean

[chrome socket]

so when you do CMD + Option + P a window will pop up showing your page size, and margins

[pastel rain]

mhm

[chrome socket]

oh you're using different shortcut keys

[pastel rain]

i'm on windows

[chrome socket]

go to edit > page settings

[pastel rain]

either way i dont need to worry about printing this

i will be sending it to a shop and they will take care of it

[chrome socket]

no this is not about printing it

its about the ability to read it without it being sucked into the spine

[pastel rain]

mm ok

[chrome socket]

sorry, if you do CTRL + Alt + P

[chrome socket]

you should get document setup

Unlink the margins and add more to the inside margin

I dont know dumb units, I only know proper units

so if the outside was like 10mm, I would make the inside 13-15mm

rememeber a book bends

and when it does, it can make it harder to read

[pastel rain]

does not look like its affecting my document

[chrome socket]

because it wont

you have preview unchecked

and it only moves the guide

which is a purple outline around your page border

*and it would only move shape the text boxes to match if you have liquid layout rules applied to it. but thats a clusterfuck to deal with sometimes

[pastel rain]

[pastel rain]

yea. i'm 60 pages in prty much. and i dont work in indesign enough to do it in any kind of efficient way unfortunatly

[chrome socket]

yeah fair. also I would refrain from changing document settings within the properties panel, ever since they added that for some stupid reason it does not let everything else in the file know a setting has changed

[pastel rain]

good to know

[chrome socket]

so always change page size, bleed and all that from the document settings window

[pastel rain]

i understand the issue youre describing with how the inside of the page will bend

[chrome socket]

yee

not a huge issue, but it does show skill 😄

[pastel rain]

i'm using a similar ammount of a gutter sice as the picture i sent of the last one

and it was not an issue in that one

so no problem here

[chrome socket]

yee

[pastel rain]

i will leave that setting as is for now

[chrome socket]

its more of a problem for perfect bounds really

[pastel rain]

if the printer thells me thers a problem and things are obscures i'll do something about it

[chrome socket]

I just make it a practice as I work with many books

I've had people go from saddle stitch to perfect bound in an instant

like 120+ pages in

[pastel rain]

yee, i have to use InDesign once every two years, otherwise i avoid it like the plague

hence the meme i made

been using PS for about 15+ years so i can fly though anything in that

[chrome socket]

yeee

[pastel rain]

i dont think i'll ever go deeper into print tho, if i do, i'll make sure i have a proper mentor

so i'm not stumbling through the dark with YT tutorials lighting the way

apreciate your help tho

[pastel rain]

[pastel rain]

[cedar rapids]

It's not an SVG file

[pastel rain]

would you like a .c4d or a .stl perhaps?

[cedar rapids]

I was mainly kidding, but if you’re willing to offer. Perchance.

[chrome socket]

JESUS THE TOPOWORK ON THAT IS INSANE

fucking reduce that. there is no need for that many quads

[pastel rain]

Yes I’m aware

My only goal was realism

[soft sun]

Yoo

[soft sun]

@pastel rain

I'm back for more feedback

I'm pretty sure on the idea but need some feedback on the dimensions of the logos/texts

[pastel rain]

i will be honest

this looks like bad screenshots taken from a video and logos put over it

[soft sun]

Oh

Well it's gonna be in a carousel with lots of other pictures so

with stuff like this

it was supposed to be like for the "speed"

Any idea how I can make it better?

[chrome socket]

That Porsche is having a drink, cute Porsche

Who’s a good little Porsche!

You are!!

<pats porche>

[pastel rain]

reviving chat

[chrome socket]

no
<takes a gun out and shoots it>

[cedar rapids]

@chrome socket Is there a way to tell Fiery to put a blank separation sheet in the middle of a book somehow?

[chrome socket]

Not fiery on its own, you can hit preview on a file, then select a couple of pages, go edit > open in acrobat and add a page

This can be weird if you haven’t already imposed, so if you impose it, flatten it, then add pages, it can be easier

Let me check when I get in today

[cedar rapids]

I just did it manually.

I ended up separating the files and just insert the blank separator sheet manually.

We're coil binding anyways,

Thought there'd be an easier way to do it.

[chrome socket]

I mean, you can use mixed media, and apply it to chapter intro pages, or yeah, add a blank page, then mixed media tag those pages, and the printer should do it for you

I actually have hot folders setup for a certian client we get exactly for that, we just tell them to add a blank page before each chapter

[cedar rapids]

I mean, like I said, we're coil binding them anyways.

There's like 310 pages and 9 chapters.

The separation sheets are blank.

[chrome socket]

oh you dont have an inline punch?

[cedar rapids]

Nah. Wasn't added.

Wait, coil bind -- not hole punch.

We have an in-line hole puncher.

Two and Three hole puncher.

[chrome socket]

yeah, we have an inline puncher that allows you to switch out the dyes

[cedar rapids]

Not sure if Canon features that exactly, but I can ask my dealer and see what they can offer me.

[chrome socket]

stupidly robust unit 😂

[cedar rapids]

Ahh, of course GBC made it.

[chrome socket]

but yeah, check with canon, surely they have an option

yee

[cedar rapids]

We just upgraded our booklet maker from 20 sheets to 45 sheets.

[chrome socket]

but yeah, 2 up a3
punch twice
cut in the middle, saves a stupid amount of time

[chrome socket]

ours by default can do up to 50

and you can kinda trick it to throw more in there aswell 😅

[cedar rapids]

I just tell mine the plain paper option when I want it to staple something a little thicker than plain, but not thick cardstock.

I prefer the Canon version of Fiery than Xerox

Xerox did not give me the g/m2 values. Canon does.

[chrome socket]

I've done some sketchy shit with the machine.
I can run the machine with the door open, once I get the last sheet in there, I quickly turn the RCT unit off (unit infront of the plockmatic), and the plockmatic pauses. I print the rest of the sheets off on another printer, cut the Lay edges off, then feed them in whilst its in its error state, turn the gbc back on, and then it just forces the book though, staples it and gets really angry when the book exits the end

I've managed to force a 75 sheet book though it 😂

with like all the distance settings set to like -40 at the end

[chrome socket]

fuck that

[cedar rapids]

Xerox Fiery is stupid.

[chrome socket]

yes

[pastel rain]

woosh

[daring cave]

thoughts? how can i make this look better

[pastel rain]

this is prty good already

one thing is your left edge

honestly its not too noticible

but line up the left side of all your text

i get why youre doing it the way youre doing it

but i think i'd move in the bottom text & logos a bit to the right

bacckground image is nice

[daring cave]

ah so its even

[pastel rain]

yes

[daring cave]

i didnt notice that

[pastel rain]

second thing, the background image

just move it down a bit

so that his head is not so close to the edge of the photo

/graphic

otherwise youre cookin

whats on the top right corner?

that your logo or something?

[daring cave]

ye

[pastel rain]

hmmmmm

it is good

but its not something i've really seen before

if you did this design just for fun

totally fine, keep it there

but if its for a peyed client, i would def remove it

[daring cave]

nah its for my schools account and i just always credit my account with it

[pastel rain]

fair enough

its not too intrusive

[daring cave]

i feel like i need to add smthn in the top right tho

feels like a big blank space

[pastel rain]

i know exactly what you mean

but here's the thing

empty space is good

it gives the viewer somewhere to rest their eye

if all of it is crazy buisy large typeface and crowded, they wont wanna look at it

this is balanced right now

[daring cave]

thats true

and it kinda shows off the background a bit

so people acc see it

[pastel rain]

i'd say you can simplify it more, but get in the habbit of getting comfortable with empty space

[daring cave]

ok, thank you so much

[pastel rain]

whats your goal

[mental gate]

a decent looking poster for her

she wanted one for her office

[pastel rain]

interesting

is 602 the district or the number?

to call emergency

also the 3rd and the largest pic seems the coolest

question two

why blue?

[mental gate]

the callsign

Melbourne 602 is her callsign

[pastel rain]

ok

- i'm gethering some referance material

ok

[mental gate]

only other poster ive done lol

[pastel rain]

mmmmmmmmmmmmm

allrite

ok. #1 thing both about photography and graphic design is composition

there's not much out there about cop posters, but there is a top of referance material if you look into army marketing, ads and promo stuff

[pastel rain]

there we are obviously missing a bike/vehicle

but take inspiration from the composition

where is the text placed? does it need to take up a huge part of the screen/poster? does the msg come across? does she look cool?

you could go with this kind of a style. use her sitting on a bike as a silhoettee, and then double expose the city she patrols

that could be cool

and keep the text small

602 is not that important, and we can see it, it does not need to take up 1/3 or the entire thing

even if it is important, still does not need to take up the space its taking up

composition option 3

text on the bottom, maybe the street her bike is on

in the image you have up front

or like i said, the 3rd image you have in the back, she looks the best in that

i'd lead with that as the hero image

and then place copies of her doing other stuff left and right

are you able to visualise what i'm saying? or does it not make sense - and its ok if it does not

i just want to know where you stand

[pastel rain]

yes, but also stop making everything giant

having empty space is ok

empty space gives the viewer somewhere to rest their eyes

if its all busy, you'll instinctivly want to look away

nothing for your eyes to go to

[mental gate]

I think I've learnt more in the last 5 minutes than 3 hours

[pastel rain]

i'm glad

[mental gate]

That looks way better, thank you so much bro

[pastel rain]

personally i'd also drop the blue/white gradient youre using as your background, and use a background that was part of the city. you can still put a blue gradient hue mask over it

or whatever youre using

[mental gate]

I really like it as is

Like I've spent three hours trying to get it decent

[pastel rain]

make a backup point

i'd do file > save > poster v2 and fuck around

[mental gate]

I think I will do that tomorrow, it's a quarter to 1 in the morning lol

Thanks for your help tho

I may potentially pester you again at some point

[pastel rain]

yah thats fine, good to look at it with fresh eyes another time

gn

[mental gate]

Gn good sir

So much better 🥲

[pastel rain]

good progress

[mental gate]

Ty

Now to Windows + X

U U

[mental gate]

@pastel rain Does it work?

[pastel rain]

good mornin

i'm still not a fan of the gradient

and her in the bacground being different sizes/elevations

send the psd through if you feelin like it

[mental gate]

there's a particular look im going for lol

[pastel rain]

lmao

if its a look you want thats fine

alr i'm kinda busy now but i'll give you a version at some point

[pastel rain]

but yes, just want you to be aware of when where and why gradients were popular

its also just a easy thing to do as a beginer that seems to look good with little effort

often times it kinda comes of.... mmmmmmm

idk if tacky is the right word

but something like that

i love gradients too, but now a days you wanna go subtle

[chrome socket]

I only use gradients if it serves a purpose

like here

2 reasons, for contrast for the text. and the fact that this is printing huge and the background image is at this point low effective dpi

also, my god what an annoying thing to design to, windmill needs to be that low because of things in the way looking from a distance

these guys had awesome muffins tho, that office was nice

[cedar rapids]

I use gradients everywhere

Is that gonna be a problem?

[pastel rain]

its just old if you just slap a good ol gradient left to right

and the two colors you use are like yellow and orange

[chrome socket]

thats fine 😂

[pastel rain]

by the graphic design court

you are fired

bannished to the vaporwave lands

[pastel rain]

somthing like this

if you wanna keep the blue

not happy about the text on the bottom

[mental gate]

Holy moly

[mental gate]

Looks dope for like a recruiting poster

[pastel rain]

for the background i literally googled malbourne https://www.tahneejadephotography.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/facebook-4-copy.jpg
got this pic, and blurred it to fuck

[mental gate]

🤣

[pastel rain]

this is why i was telling you use a background tho

will look better then a normal bg

cba

layers are a mess and unnameed

i put your stuff under the "og" folder

mine is the other folder

[mental gate]

Ill keep it in mind

And shall continue learning

Arkoun Chraen

[pastel rain]

good, feel free to ask questions

one thing that was odd to me was that i thought you had use the liquid tool here

it was just a bad mask, you cut off part of the bike windshield

[ancient hull]

i call this one:

Lasha and the Georgian Mountains

[pastel rain]

true masterpiece

thank you

i love it

i might print this out

[ancient hull]

put it on your fridge in high quality print

and send me photo

[pastel rain]

i just might do that

[ancient hull]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-death-threat-dwight-gif-22884658

[pastel rain]

[daring cave]

hi

thoughts? i feel like somethings off

[chrome socket]

so you do photography, videography and graphic?

oh whats the design for?

Open Hire For?

the layering is cool tho, I do like how the background is done

everything else, makes me think I dont know how to read

[daring cave]

so your saying just the text needs to be reworked?

[pastel rain]

the basketball kid is also underexposed

idk about that foresty background

personally i'd go for this style, collage all the sports people in this kind of way

slap some text one there to do your ads

[daring cave]

ok

so should just restart?

[pastel rain]

up to you

[cedar rapids]

Just sharing this -- featured this on my new packaging for my prints a few weeks ago:

School now wants to be printed as a poster and hang a few around the campus.

[pastel rain]

hell yah

[chrome socket]

😮

Me and my fancy ass templates
the safe first warning auto removes when unembedding links, which then reveals the green warning underneath

[cedar rapids]

Black or white background?

[pastel rain]

mmm

i like the black

but i reccomend trying off white & dark gray as well

[chrome socket]

white would print better

[cedar rapids]

@chrome socket finally printing the envelopes in time for next school year.

[chrome socket]

What a coincidence, did some envelopes today

[cedar rapids]

Is that a Canon?

[chrome socket]

No…

[cedar rapids]

It sounds like the early versions of the imagePRESS.

My apologies.

[pastel rain]

oh fuck me sideways

this is great

credit thing is annoying

but bleed extensions

[chrome socket]

@cedar rapids
took them more than a decade 😂

[cedar rapids]

This is with InDesign???

@chrome socket see my question above.

[pastel rain]

That was in illustrator

[pastel rain]

got a big ol 12 page thing to put together

working for a company that only wants 1 style sucks

my boss asked me to do it in a different style anyway

but

gonna do a A B test anyway

one replicating what the main marketing office does

one unique

and waste my time

[pastel rain]

the upside is, its easy as shit

i'm basically drag and dropping assets

but once again

theres too much fucking copy

thank you for coming to my rant ted talk

[cedar rapids]

@pastel rain @chrome socket Is it just me or does Gmail deliberately remove all password protection for a PDF file that has password encryption on it so that they can't print it?

I just found this out when I was testing it out.

[pastel rain]

sounds odd

not sure

[chrome socket]

yup, so if you print from google drive > print > print to pdf
it removes the password

[cedar rapids]

This is stipid. There’s gotta be a way to work around this.

[chrome socket]

there is a tool, an ancient tool for windows that just removes passwords

I forget the name

[cedar rapids]

Serious?

[chrome socket]

Yeah, I just don’t remember the name

[cedar rapids]

I'm sure the average Joe doesn't know how to remove the password

[cedar rapids]

@chrome socket @pastel rain any of you guys experience any weird slowdowns with InDesign lately? Not even with the latest update.

It's slow on Windows, but not terribly slow on either MacBook or Mac.

MacOS usually launches instantly.

[chrome socket]

I don't use the latest update. they borked the access for network volumes via scripts

[cedar rapids]

No, not even the latest.

I downgraded, remember?

[chrome socket]

are you using my scripts?

[cedar rapids]

No, I'm just speaking in general.

Like starting up the program.

[chrome socket]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

It’s InDesign, sometimes it takes a bit to load

[pastel rain]

Yah it was being buggy for me this week

[chrome socket]

ugh, I just spent like an hour and a half trying to troubleshoot a fiery spot color problem, just to restart the machine and fiery, for it all to work normally again..

thx fiery

[cedar rapids]

It’s just weird lately and I’m not even running the latest version.

[daring cave]

thoughts?

[cedar rapids]

@chrome socket am fucked, it actually is iOS 26

[chrome socket]

yee.... I actually like it

[cedar rapids]

Kinda prefer iOS 18. Not sure why it didn’t stay with the 18 Dev Beta.

[chrome socket]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I know I wont like the Finder's design in MacOS 26

but apple are pretty good at refining their designs over time

so I have no sweat

[cedar rapids]

Ehh.

Buggy OS, innit?

[chrome socket]

not really

[cedar rapids]

Cap

[chrome socket]

I mean, theres a reason why I refuse to use Windows as a productivity OS

[cedar rapids]

Windows actually has so many things to offer in the live entertainment industry that MacOS can’t do.

[chrome socket]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

not a me thing

[cedar rapids]

Which is why native lighting consoles and audio consoles are solely Windows and not Mac, for the sake of stability and reliability.

MA Lighting has been real buggy on MacOS.

ShowKontrol and Resolume are the only two MacOS compatible programs that are stable.

Other than that, most of it is buggy or just not worth the headache.

You know?

[cedar rapids]

It will be now

Read my message

[chrome socket]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I dont do that stuff

[cedar rapids]

Too bad, so sad.

[chrome socket]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cedar rapids]

Although Premiere is kinda buggy on MacOS.

But other programs run like butter.

Could it be an optimization issue?

[chrome socket]

yup

well...

yes

[cedar rapids]

So as After Effects and Audition.

[chrome socket]

Never really had a problem with AE on MacOS

[cedar rapids]

All the graphic, publishing and photography related apps run so well on Mac — but video and audio production.

Which is so strange.

Cause PR, AE, and AU run like nothing’s taking a toll on my Windows machine?

[chrome socket]

its nice that InDesign has gotten GPU support for windows now.. only took them like 20 years

[cedar rapids]

Which doesn’t make sense?

[cedar rapids]

But you see what I’m saying with the issues I’m having though, right?

[chrome socket]

all of my scripts run stupidly fast on Windows

[chrome socket]

yup

[cedar rapids]

Nah fuck your scripts — they run well when they want to, we have a different topic on hand

[cedar rapids]

It’s pretty annoying, not gonna lie.

It’s annoying when I actually want to mainstream all my workflow within Mac, yet I’m dealing with such issues.

[chrome socket]

most of my workflows work perfectly with MacOS, but thats because I build with MacOS. applescript and so on

[cedar rapids]

Elaborate.

Too slow to understand this detailed statement.

[chrome socket]

MacOS comes built in with automation software and its own scripting language.
yes you can do this with windows, but MacOS has it on a deeper level

[cedar rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-dont-get-it-explain-this-to-me-like-im-five-michael-scott-gif-14068014

[chrome socket]

Apple thingy make work go brrrr

me use tool, me make thing

and thing works

then it make me happy

[cedar rapids]

@chrome socket looking for an inexpensive desktop color laser printer, what would you recommend?

I just need it for the sake of printing packing slips with previews of the photos printed out.

[chrome socket]

i am unsure what to recommend, I use the machines, I dont sell the machines

[cedar rapids]

I mean I was eyeing the Brother HL-L3280CDW, if you're interesting in what I came across.

[chrome socket]

Brothers aint bad

[cedar rapids]

Yeah, I have two of their HL-L2420DW printers and they've been great.

Just looking for a color option without having to get into inkjet due to the costly expenses.

Literally would only use inkjet solely for photos.

[chrome socket]

lol, me just adding menus in context menus now 😂

[chrome socket]

Also!
on todays episode of Tom finds a silly indesign scripting quirk

[pastel rain]

hey @chrome socket

for digitally displaying it, does this give you a feel of a ||trifold||

what type of print does it feel like to you

[chrome socket]

this is how I do it

dont worry about the numbers, those are internal reference

[pastel rain]

ye i get ya

isometric feels a bit clinical

but does portray the folds more acuratly

[chrome socket]

thats the point

alternatively I mark the folds with a blue spot color called fold for the people who know what their doing

[pastel rain]

this is for printing and showing client purpouse i assume?

[chrome socket]

yup, its. a quick dirty way. just marking folds with lines

[pastel rain]

yee makes sense

i'm trying to make it presentable for a portfolio

[chrome socket]

whereas what I showed before it just for showing the client the idea

[chrome socket]

for that sorta stuff, or when I am presenting a full design set to someone I use this site:
https://mockups-design.com/?s=trifold

these are also non attribute, so you don't have to credit them

[pastel rain]

mmm and its free

nice

[lost summit]

Designs for the prototype of a board game. Includes a poster, instructions manual, promotional trifold, various game cards and also the game tiles

[pastel rain]

ouuuuu

[lost summit]

Products for a (fake) fashion brand (so no worries about doxxing or sum) (this was a finals project)

(Fake) magazine

[pastel rain]

very nice

good stuff

[lost summit]

And here just a random little magazine about art (the cover was lame so not showing that)

[pastel rain]

fun layout

[lost summit]

I had to squeeze in 2 art pieces for each genre, so kinda chaotic but fun

[pastel rain]

it works

[lost summit]

When it comes to this one I wish I would have done the overall design like the poster. It looks so much cooler than the dark blue and offwhite

I also made a t-shirt for this project

[pastel rain]

ya unified visual language is always a plus

posted and the stationary do look a bit seperate, althought the font unites them

[lost summit]

The poster was one of the last things I did and just putting a model in front of a dark blue background didn't feel right

[pastel rain]

maybe if she was in white cloaths

get better color contrast

[lost summit]

I should have just made everything like the poster. That would have looked much cooler, and kinda went with the "eco friendly" thematic

[pastel rain]

well

*the background of the poster does remind me of a oil spill *

or paint mixing

either or

[lost summit]

The background consists of like multiple images which were like overlayed for texture effects

[pastel rain]

nice

[lost summit]

If I had the chance I would have used fancier paper as well, but we didn't have much variety at our school

[pastel rain]

can always reprint in the future if needed

[lost summit]

Yeah

[chrome socket]

these are fucking awesome, though if it were me, I would have more margin to those text boxes, text feels like its struggling for air

apart from that, its awesome

[lost summit]

Thx.
And yeah ig, it was like my first ever magazine style thing

[pastel rain]

new font family

[lost summit]

Merriweather do be a good font

[pastel rain]

logo in progress

[lost summit]

Logo design is such pain 😭
Really hate the process..

Worst part is when the client doesn't like any of your ideas

[cedar rapids]

Throw in a "bitch fee"

[chrome socket]

I find that in most cases, a client wont like any of them because they cannot see it being used

so show them examples of it being used

[pastel rain]

Mmm interesting

[lost summit]

I mean yeah.. Generally one would include mockups for projects..
But some clients are still tricky

[silver steeple]

hi

thoughts? i feel like it looks quite off..

[pastel rain]

hmmm

ya lot going on

[pastel rain]

whats your goal?

[silver steeple]

make it look cool

thats about it

[pastel rain]

valid

[silver steeple]

i feel like i had the vision then just threw up ts

[pastel rain]

lol

so imo i think you got 2 different ideas clashing here

i think the logo on its own with the players in it is its own thing

sticking it in here

it gets verrrrrry lost

i think that should be a standalone poster on its own

with a simple background

[silver steeple]

yeah true, i was just trying to fill in the space yk

[pastel rain]

a subtle gradient or faded pattern - like their jersy stripes

yee thing about design, its kind of a natural instinct to want to fill every empty spot, but you dont have to - empty space is good, gives viewer a place to rest their eye

but the important thing, just like in photography, is composition

random empty space isnt always great, but when compose well, it adds quite a lot

so i'd reccomend settup up a grid to work with

you could look up "graphic design poster grid template"

or something along those lines

[silver steeple]

this is that slide without the logo

[pastel rain]

better already i think

that line in the middle is distracting a bit but its not too bad

the safty net is a bit unfortunate

[silver steeple]

ik 😭

[pastel rain]

watch your edges and masking too

looks a little fucked up

make sure the logo is sharp

[silver steeple]

ye ill fix that up

[pastel rain]

https://www.pinterest.com/search/pins/?q=baseball posters&rs=typed

look around for some inspiration

[silver steeple]

ty bro 🙏

always giving the best advice

[pastel rain]

you got this

[silver steeple]

@pastel rain this better?

[pastel rain]

mmm mmhm mhm

i think the background is still distracting

but can be use d

move the seats down a bit/the logo up

so its resting on the *simpler background

and slap a gausian blur onto that field

so it defuses more

[silver steeple]

alr

[pastel rain]

nice

looking good

only other thing you can try to straighten out the chairs

its curving a bit / skewed one way

you can add some words if you'd like

[silver steeple]

hows this?

[pastel rain]

perfect

[silver steeple]

sweet

thank you!

[cedar rapids]

Vectorize you mean?

I hate it when I deal with logos not vectored

[pastel rain]

nah

not everything needs to be vector

[cedar rapids]

I like it vectorized.

Is that gonna be an issue?

@chrome socket vectorized his borb.

[chrome socket]

I mean, if done in photoshop it will export as raster anyways

I was debating of throwing my 5 cents in here about working in Illustrator and linking assets.

[cedar rapids]

I swear, Illustrator is on a fritz lately:

[chrome socket]

lol, how big is your document?

[cedar rapids]

120MB

[pastel rain]

nah

does not matter most of the time

either its a tiny ad or a tiny print

unless youre zooming you wont see it

[chrome socket]

Individual work, yup
Professional work, nope

[cedar rapids]

It's going to matter if you're making stickers and other marketing things, like what I'm doing right now.

[chrome socket]

dye lines for stickers

[cedar rapids]

I always snap at my co-workers at school (the other teachers) when it comes to vector files.

[cedar rapids]

Contour cut*

[chrome socket]

"ContourCut" you mean

[cedar rapids]

I'm getting lazy with Flexi and using their Contour Cut feature.

Fuck off Tom.

Anyways, yeah.

[chrome socket]

Flexi, and all those other softwares love the spot color, or line attribution "ContourCut" or "CutContour"

most cases it seems to be "CutContour"

[cedar rapids]

Yeah, it is.

[chrome socket]

interchangable really

[cedar rapids]

I've been having too much fun with the Mutoh

[chrome socket]

yeah those machiens are fucking fun

I got to use Epsons option a while ago

and their system is really great

[cedar rapids]

I try to avoid Epson printers

But their SureColor large formats are too good to pass up on.

I parted ways with the Xante flatbed in favor of a Mutoh flatbed.

[chrome socket]

yee, these machines used their surecolor format

[cedar rapids]

Arrival/ETA: 2-4 weeks

I'm excited

Can you hurry up and finish typing?

[chrome socket]

But yeah, in terms of using Vectors. if you can use them, just use them. Its better than being told that the customer cannot print their artwork because it is too small. And believe me, I've been on the receiving end of the "what the fuck, I thought I could use this for print aswell as web, what do I pay you for"

Individual work, where you know your target destination is Web or a small ass print, sure

But in a professional area, where Spot Colors like pantones, or CutContour work. or even if the artwork needs to work on multiple scales, just rasters is not good enough

[chrome socket]

Shut the fuck up cunt, I will ditch a brick at your big ass head

[cedar rapids]

How do you know I have a big head?

[chrome socket]

that smartass attitude you have

[chrome socket]

super cool machines

[cedar rapids]

Oh.

Right.

[chrome socket]

[cedar rapids]

I originally wanted to go the LogoJet route because consumables are cheaper than the Xante and Mutoh combined.

LogoJet and Mutoh use the same software and drivers for much of their machines.

I debated on this for a while and decided to just go with the Mutoh for the sake of it.

[chrome socket]

Mutoh has a bigger R&D dep aswell iirc. could be wrong on that

[pastel rain]

basically this

i wish photogshop could magically do vectors

just work in pixels the whole time

and at the end exoprt vectors

some kind of smart object shinanigans

[chrome socket]

and it sucks that working with strokes, paths, curves. fucking sucks in photoshop

at the end of the day, if you are working with vectors within photoshop, things scale easier

but yeah, individual. its fine

small jobs, perfectly fine

[pastel rain]

pen tool does a prty good job

[chrome socket]

but full design complements with different destinations, yeaaaa just use Illustrator or InDesign

[chrome socket]

it does, however managing stroke/path is fucking annoying.
Affinty Photo does it way better. (even though I use photoshop still)

[pastel rain]

not something i use often

[chrome socket]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

me loves this context page. lets see them add more pages, leading me to bash my head on a desk

[cedar rapids]

What the fuck is this yearbook?

[chrome socket]

Leavers Book

[cedar rapids]

No, you’re right on this.
My previously flatbed has been nothing but a disaster.

[chrome socket]

so its supposed to be playful

[cedar rapids]

Gross.

I like mine formal.

[chrome socket]

Oh the yearbooks are very formal. but the other things like this is rather playful.
this year they wanted it to be like this

[cedar rapids]

Mutoh printers are expensive, but their support team is exceptional. Especially when ordering consumables too.

[chrome socket]

last year it was pretty boring and kinda had no character

[cedar rapids]

I’m reviving this idea:

This Is Exactly You! (this was my idea) — we had an acrylic cutout on the front cover, a slot sized for a 4x6 portrait of whoever owns the yearbook.

The inside pages will then flow through with the same idea.

You’ll get the general idea when I start putting everything together.

[jagged garnet]

Hey I'm wondering how to make the space between just the bullets less not the other text. any help wit this thanks.

[jagged garnet]

nevermind i figured it out

[cedar rapids]

@chrome socket @pastel rain throwing together my sponsor banner for the school's football team... last minute thing, as always.
Is this doing too much for the background of a banner?

[pastel rain]

this is some grid layout?

[pastel rain]

depends what youre filling it with

this has been my day

[cedar rapids]

Just photos from past season. Decrease the opacity to maybe 15-20%. Add my logo on top with my website as the main subject.

[pastel rain]

mmmm ok

i'm a fan of isometric

lil bit of space between them all

nice drop shadow

and youre cookin

leave a gap for your logo

[cedar rapids]

Got an example?

My deadline is in 15 minutes. Lol.

I’m filling in as we speak.

[pastel rain]

lol just submit this for now