Lounge but Australian

[dim forge]

so factual

[serene ibex]

How big is the photography industry in Australia

ie how easy is it to get a job as a photographer in Australia

[static ruin]

How long is a piece of string

Depends on what type of photography you want to do, your level (both photography skill, and marketing skills, reputation makes a difference), location can make a heck of a difference etc

[coral crescent]

everything punther said

[static ruin]

And give Punther $1000

[serene ibex]

First of all Assistant freelance
Secondly Brisbane

[coral crescent]

but also emphasis of skill, genre and location

[serene ibex]

Cert3 Qualifcation

[coral crescent]

oh I forgot you could take certs in photography

basically useless for me though

I think acheivements are more important than qualifications

[static ruin]

I mostly shoot casual so can't really give an answer, just more things to think about. Assistant freelance is still somewhat vague, I imagine there's some way to go about finding assistant positions, difficult part will be building up that portfolio

[coral crescent]

along with experience

[foggy steppe]

Networking more important than any skills

[coral crescent]

I'm also casual-ish but I've been working as an assistant photographer for a while

[serene ibex]

I think as of next year, I would have a year of wielding a camera on me

[foggy steppe]

Be a shit photographer and just work a bunch of jobs and meet lots of people/connections

[coral crescent]

yeah that sounds right actually

[serene ibex]

My statement or @foggy steppe ?

[coral crescent]

Ionas

a year of experience isnt a lot

an internship would do you good for experience

Yes

I'm not trying to be harsh

[serene ibex]

I know your not

[coral crescent]

but I remember being on the same part of the dk

just keep shooting

[static ruin]

I never left the valley

[coral crescent]

The oppurtunities will come eventually

how old are you?

[serene ibex]

That’s what I have been doing

[serene ibex]

19M

[coral crescent]

even more

yeah an internship would be nice

it helps a lot for actually applying for jobs

[serene ibex]

Say, what is on offer actually?

[coral crescent]

I'm not sure, I'm not old enough to be considering serious Jobs yet

got offered my internship a while ago and just took that

[serene ibex]

Would it be worth looking into after my cert3?

[coral crescent]

Yes

An internship will do more than a cert imo

Achievements even more so

[serene ibex]

The cert3 would be the cherry

The internship, the cake

Agreed Oliv?

[coral crescent]

thats a good way to put it

internships are a lot of the experience

the cert is the nice bonus on top of that

but another I'd like to mention again are achievements in general, competitions etc

[serene ibex]

Hmm

[coral crescent]

not a neccecity to get hired

but they'll definetly help

[serene ibex]

That is the cream in the cake

Or the Icing

[coral crescent]

yeah I didn't use the cake analogy here cause I'd put more value on it

it's what got me my internship

[serene ibex]

What you doing for it?

[coral crescent]

I edit all the stuff the main photographer for the school shoots

I'll do shoots myself as well sometimes

[serene ibex]

And you shoot what now?

[coral crescent]

Sports mainly

not my specialty field but also something I can do easily

[serene ibex]

I want concert photography to be my specialty one day

[coral crescent]

Reqy does that

often tells me how much of a pain lighting is

concert photography is hard

[serene ibex]

just because its hard doesnt mean it isnt possible

[coral crescent]

no of course not

it's hard but it's very rewarding

[errant linden]

really?

[coral crescent]

mostly yeah

[errant linden]

oh school

aight

[coral crescent]

I can't send of it here cause of contract stuff

[errant linden]

ye tru

[serene ibex]

but yeah Oliv, I might look into a internship

[errant linden]

Ive only done a couple paid gigs before highest one was originally $230 but got cut down to $190

[errant linden]

IMHO, experience and ability will trump certs. Photography is niche. Best bet, wedding photography assistant. IMHO. Don't expect great money. Expect hard work and long hours being a slave to the master photographer, oops, your employer. I would in all honesty, do the cert III and then go for a diploma. A fine arts degree is fine and dandy, but really doesn 't help you develop a portfolio, or business connections, or learn how to run a business vs a diploma, which does

[coral crescent]

this

agreed with all of this

thats why in the cake analogy its a cherry

[errant linden]

I"m not trying to be mean either (to the OP), just honest advice.

[coral crescent]

you don't need it, but its a nice touch

It'll help to get an internship thats for sure

but yeah merits and experience do trump certs

[errant linden]

if you're young, like 19, then a diploma is a great idea imho. You're young enough to still be able to push hard with study. Plenty of time to enter the workforce and gain valuable on hands experience. Plus, diploma tells an employer that you are committed. A cert 3 doesn't imho.

[coral crescent]

I laugh at a lot of uni degree shooters

[errant linden]

I don't know if we have much in the way of internship9s here?

[coral crescent]

some are good

but a lot of garbage that won't get far

[errant linden]

most people who have a degree suck at practical experience imho.

[coral crescent]

yep

[errant linden]

all theory, no practical

[coral crescent]

they read all the books but can't click a button

yep, I've almost never touched a thing when it comes to photography theory

[serene ibex]

I guess pick an internship with a diploma

[errant linden]

I wanted to do a diploma in photography a year ago, and could have gotten the government funding to do it for nothing (I was on DES with Mission employment)

[coral crescent]

yet I'm gonna be sitting in queensland museum soon

[errant linden]

that would be the best option yes

[coral crescent]

theory means jackshit

[serene ibex]

ikr

[coral crescent]

it'll always be that way to me when it comes to photography

click buttons, move sliders until you understand

Only when you reach that point of where you need to understand what those sliders are doing should you go into theory

[errant linden]

unfortunately, I am working ~45 hours/fortnight, and each unit was 10 hours per week, and they wanted me to do a minimum of 3 units per semester (so 30 hours per week). At my age, and with my mental cognitive functions, there was no way that I could do this

[coral crescent]

the tone curve is a very good example

when you start out you can really do whatever, doesnt really matter

but as you get better

the importance of it becomes clearer

and just how much you can do with it

[serene ibex]

look I say leave it there for the time being due to certain peoples timezones but I appreciate the insights

[errant linden]

I'm looking to get formally diagnosed for asd and adhd (and probably odd and ied too imho) and that would qualify me for 1 subject per semester and I could handle that, unfortunately, I dropped off DES and it's near impossible now under workforce australia to get back on it

so no funding anymore...and I can't afford 13k for the diploma

plus, I'm not a people person, so wedding and portraiture aren't my cuppa tea and wildlife and landscape are far far far too hard to break into and make a reasonable income these days

[coral crescent]

yeah I have no plans to make money with wildlife right now

[errant linden]

this and I'm nowhere even remotely good enough

not being negative, that's an honest self-assessment

[coral crescent]

eh I'd say I'm fairly decent, but it's just the industry is filled with monsters

shooters with decades of experience

[errant linden]

yup. Although Jan has only been doing wildlife for 10 years or so

as has Duade

I've only been doing birding photography for 18 months, so after 10 years, I am hoping to be ~75% the quality of those guys

[coral crescent]

ehh I've been doing wildlife for about a year

but I've been shooting for about 2

[errant linden]

I'm an old fart, so have been shooting since 1988

good at the technical side, but very poor creatively, and haven't pushed myself to excel at any 1 genre

[coral crescent]

I'm the opposite, kinda dumb at the technical stuff but I'm fuckin solid at creative stuff

[errant linden]

bought a Leica IIIf around 6 months ago, still need to get a CLA done it, but hope to start doing some film based street photography with it. NOt so much interested in the people, more learning more about that type of genre out of curiousity

creativity trumps technical every day imho

[coral crescent]

yeah agreed, but there comes a point where you need to know the technical stuff

reaching that point now and I hate it

[errant linden]

for that reason I wanted to get a home studio to try and improve my people skills a bit and learn about that genre. I like the technical and creative aspects of studio portraiture a lot

[coral crescent]

yeah fair

I honestly can't give an answer as to what style of wildlife I specialise in

I change it from photo to photo

[errant linden]

just looking at my test images from yesterday - trying out 1/4000 and f8 for BIFs (larger raptors such as Black Kites) to see if images are sharper. So far, despite not having many front lit opportunities yesterday is that it is consistently sharper than my previous 1/2000 f7.1 settings

[coral crescent]

Ah I just don't really care much about sharpness now

as long as decently sharp I'm happy

[errant linden]

gonna drop the R3 from H+ to H FPS too (with my older 1st gen 500f4 that's 14fps to 9fps) to see if that helps with AF accuracy (I suspect that it will)

[coral crescent]

At the end of the day, to the general audience, not many people are gonna care about sharpness

[errant linden]

I want to excel

[coral crescent]

unless the photo is reliant on being extremely sharp, like dedicated birds, it doesnt matter that much

[errant linden]

so I'm pushing myself hard to get better with fieldcraft and technical aspects and creativity

[coral crescent]

and if your photo is reliant on being incredibly sharp, chances are you've ignored everything else

theres no harm in having a sharp image, all the better, just don't care wildly much about it

[errant linden]

I disagree

I prefer to get it right in camera than in PP

with that said, I typically do very minimal sharpening in PP anyway

[coral crescent]

well you can't fix an unsharp image

[errant linden]

exactly

[coral crescent]

I'm just saying people shouldnt obsess over it, composition and everything else matter leagues more

[errant linden]

the R3 is garbage, at least with a 1st gen 500f4 prime with birds coming at you head on

not even a 10% keeper rate imho

Sony and Nikon are far better in this respect

[coral crescent]

I switched my shooting style from taking pictures of birds to taking pictures with birds in them

I pay more attention to everything else in the shot more than the bird honestly

[errant linden]

well animal eye detect AF makes composition easier

EVF makes getting the exposure right easier

[coral crescent]

sure it makes it easier, it's really nice to have for sure

but gear doesnt make the photographer

sure great gear will help for sure

[errant linden]

it makes the job easier

but it still takes skill

[coral crescent]

Very much

[errant linden]

and experience

I am much better with BIFs now than 6 months ago

[coral crescent]

I don't doubt that

But like I said, its not good to get hooked up on the techincal stuff too much

just going out there and shooting without getting hooked on everything being as sharp as possible, especially with wildlife where the moment is everything, is just much better

[errant linden]

20 years of IT my brain is wired that way

plus ASD and hyper focus too

mmm mask in lightroom isn'tw orking

now have to figure out why

i find colour range mask better with BIFS as subject fucks up on their wing tips

Black Kite from yesterday

[inner ether]

Is that a screenshot>

[errant linden]

nope

JPG reduced to 2400px longest side

[inner ether]

Why

[errant linden]

I don't want super size jpgs mate. quality set to 12

[inner ether]

After ran through pureraw it'll be like 20megs max

[errant linden]

I have a strong suspicion that the mark 1 500f4 prime is showing signs of softness vs the mark 2 version (or modern RF glass) and the AF is signiticantly inferior too)

[inner ether]

Yeah indeed

[errant linden]

it's already processed (pure raw, lightroom classic, photoshop)

[inner ether]

Its from 1999, sorry

[errant linden]

well duh, I realise this

it's still a very good lens. It suffers when compared to newer versions, but that applies to anything

it'll smoke a sigma 150-600c any day of the week in all areas

[inner ether]

ye

[errant linden]

the mark 2 is my goal

no way Ill ever be able to afford new RF glass for a prime

[inner ether]

its 6k on MPB

[errant linden]

Australia here. seeing some go locally for AUD 8.5k

[inner ether]

here it's 10k AUD

converted

[errant linden]

most are around the 10.5k aud

which matches the price that you are seeing

[foggy steppe]

500 f4 certainly has no sharpness issues on 24mp

[errant linden]

I am tempted, if the 200-800 RF is true, and around AUD 4k as rumoured, and it's sharp enough, to keep the mark 1 prime and grab the zoom

[inner ether]

Get the 100-300 as an add-on

[errant linden]

the RF600 f4 would be my dream

[errant linden]

no chance in hell, no $$$

that's gonna be USD 10k

[inner ether]

its 12k euro

Cuz it exists already

[errant linden]

20k aud

big and heavy and far too short for birds

[inner ether]

Like your 500 F4 isnt "big and heavy"

[errant linden]

the rf100-300 will probably be heavier at a guess

[inner ether]

What?

500 F4 is like

1.4kg heavier

[errant linden]

yep just checked

but it's way too short for birds

100-300 won't cut it

[inner ether]

it handles TC's super well

[errant linden]

at best, even with the 2x TC, it'll be 200-600, still too short

I currently shoot with 700mm reach and that's a nice sweet spot

and I know a lot of very experienced and very good birding photographers who shoot with the 500mm f4 mark 2 and the mark 3 1.4x tc

[late parcel]

I really wanna stick a 2x TC on my 500mm but it’s f6 🥲

And I do most of my shooting in shadows

[errant linden]

when I retire in 15 or so years, I aim to get a R1 II and RF 600f4 II with my superannuation

[coral crescent]

I just don't give a damn about focal lengths

[timber spruce]

i want a 1.4X TC

[late parcel]

My “new” second hand lens is soooooo dirty 😭

(File was too big hence screenshot)

[inner ether]

which lens isnit?

[late parcel]

Oh gosh I don’t even know

Lemme check

FX 16-80 f4

[errant linden]

what f stop was that taken at?

[inner ether]

Ahh fuji shooter

16-80 is quite okay

[late parcel]

22 😅 I didn’t really do anything with settings, just wanted to see if it was clean

[errant linden]

it looks very soft to my eyes

f22? overkill and you'll get diffraction issues

try f11

[timber spruce]

my lens and sensor are dirty again

ffs

i might just lick it again

[late parcel]

Lmao

[late parcel]

Yeah, I wasn’t really going for anything

[static ruin]

Most cameras and lenses will not look great at f22 in terms of dirst and dust lol

[late parcel]

Just wanted some blue to check it out

[errant linden]

fair enough

test it wide open at f4 and f5.6 for decentering at 16/30/45 and 80mm imho. Brick wall works well

look at the aperture blades too for leaking lubricant

[timber spruce]

@late parcel you know how i'm cleaning mysensor?

i touch it >:)

https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExbGk5aHR0cndidDBjeWVhYXM5cnd4dWNpemtqeHlrYWJrMjE5eXZqeiZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/T12HxIWT1MiArMbsja/giphy.gif

[late parcel]

😭

[inner ether]

@late parcel which body you shooting on?

[late parcel]

XH2

[inner ether]

I loved using it

[late parcel]

😂

I’m getting so confused by it

[inner ether]

By?

Cuz it's probably the easiest fuji body

[late parcel]

Took a break from it and went to my old Nikon D300s and now I can’t work out any of the settings and what not

[late parcel]

I’m just dumb

[inner ether]

I own the XH1

and rented the XH2

[late parcel]

Oooo

[inner ether]

and the transition

was flawless

Just had to get used to PASM in the first 30 minuutes

and then had to learn that I have an ISO button on the top right

and that was it

disabled some buttons that I was pressing

[foggy steppe]

xh2 holy fuck

[inner ether]

and i was good to go

[late parcel]

I love my XH2, I’m just a super slow learner

[inner ether]

its awesome

[foggy steppe]

the "apsc but i spend ff money on lenses" camera

[late parcel]

I have no clue how to work that shit lmao

[foggy steppe]

it is good tho

[inner ether]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1093609491179778118/1162646737748512858/IMG_4756.jpg?ex=6545eca7&is=653377a7&hm=6936788bfc943660d8f4b0168266af26463ebbd3bae221e1273038f9f555913b&=&width=507&height=676

[late parcel]

Mmmm

[inner ether]

Side by side of the 2 bad boys

XH2 and XH1 respectively

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1093609491179778118/1162693008446201926/IMG_4760.jpg?ex=654617bf&is=6533a2bf&hm=d6ed36a7808e991227010ae5dbd1d317d473e9569fefac66611dd7b4a5770cb7&=&width=507&height=676

This was my kit for that day

[late parcel]

Beautiful

[inner ether]

Worked like a charm

[late parcel]

I really wanna stick a 600mm on mine but I can’t find one cheap enough anywhere 😭

[foggy steppe]

werent you a birder or something

[inner ether]

pretty uninteresting since its cars

but regardless

[late parcel]

I’m doing all my birds on my super old D300s with a second hand sigma 500mm that can’t focus properly

[late parcel]

I try

[foggy steppe]

fuji only has like

[inner ether]

They dont have teleprimes

[foggy steppe]

2 lenses that will work for it lol

100-400 and 150-600

[inner ether]

you need to adapt Canon EF

[late parcel]

Yeah

[inner ether]

and 150-500 Tamron

[foggy steppe]

no shot in hell that resolves

its already soft on a7r

[inner ether]

nop

doesnt resolve at all

lol

[late parcel]

But with adaptors you lose auto focus and stabilisation?

[inner ether]

no

If you get a metabones one

[foggy steppe]

you cant afford a teleprime anyways

or a $500 adapter

[late parcel]

🥲

[foggy steppe]

just use a fuji zoom

[inner ether]

you'd preferably want a metabones ultra

whichi s 800 euro

so around 1200 AUD

[foggy steppe]

both the zooms are ok

and almost resolve xh2

lol

[inner ether]

100-400 resolves XH2 afiak

[late parcel]

I can’t get anything at the moment

Because I’m so broke

[inner ether]

The fact this is basically

130% crop

[late parcel]

But I also want to shoot planes and what not

[foggy steppe]

whats this sigma 500mm btw

500 f4?

[late parcel]

Gosh I don’t know

Lemme check

[foggy steppe]

is it 3kg lol

[late parcel]

4.5-6.3

[late parcel]

Just about a

[foggy steppe]

oh 150-500 i assume

[late parcel]

50-500

[foggy steppe]

oh

yeah that one can be replaced with no harm

fuji 100-400 or 150-600 eventually

[coral crescent]

fuji has a 150-600?

[foggy steppe]

yes

[coral crescent]

that shouldnt be suprising but it is

I just never think of fuji as a wildlife thing

[foggy steppe]

its not really a wildlife thing

[late parcel]

There was one for sale for 1000 a while ago but I had just gone broke on vet bills 😭

[foggy steppe]

but it exists just as an option

[static ruin]

For the most part it isn't, a lot of their cameras can't really keep up in terms of AF for wildlife

[coral crescent]

oh it looks quite nice

[static ruin]

XH2/XH2s naturally are fine, though a lot of their lenses don't focus particularly fast

[late parcel]

That’s hideous

[foggy steppe]

not good for a brand to just have zero wildlife options

so ofc they have 1 or 2

[coral crescent]

I'm a sucker for those designs

[late parcel]

Which are?

[late parcel]

You’re kidding

The white makes me wanna puke

[foggy steppe]

the 100-400 and 150-600

[late parcel]

Ah right

[coral crescent]

fair enough

[static ruin]

Join me on Nikon z, all the lenses are black!

[foggy steppe]

just use sigma teleprimes

[late parcel]

I feel like I’d not bother with the 400. I want the 600 but my bank says no

[coral crescent]

I really do like the design of this

[foggy steppe]

600 equiv isnt bad

[late parcel]

Hey I am Nikon too 😂

[inner ether]

okay guys

[static ruin]

Is my favourite 70-200

[inner ether]

I need you lads help

https://flareframes.com/_next/image?url=%2Fimages%2Fportfolio%2Fqueen-seven%2Fportfolio-business-shoot-lynnvanvreckem-flareframes-queen-seven-3.jpg&w=1080&q=75

If you guys see this

How much would you think you'd have to pay for a shoot

[foggy steppe]

it looks ai gen

[errant linden]

$5

[inner ether]

It costs 700 euro ex. VAT

For 60 photos

[foggy steppe]

what

[late parcel]

I think I have a 70-230

[coral crescent]

lmao

[errant linden]

[coral crescent]

joost

[foggy steppe]

thats way above any market rate

[coral crescent]

is this similar to thing you sent me the other day

[inner ether]

nono

its something else

[errant linden]

wtf bro thats $20(aud) a photo

[late parcel]

ITS RAINING

[late parcel]

Holy fuck

[inner ether]

It says excl. BTW

Which means EX VAT

there is another 21% VAT on top of this

[late parcel]

That ain’t English

[inner ether]

Cuz i am not English

[coral crescent]

I like not having to count tax when I buy shit

[inner ether]

[inner ether]

Cuz for most companies they can put something like this as business expensive

[static ruin]

You just subtract the tax, still easier to have it included since 95% of the time you'll be paying the tax anyway

[inner ether]

you'll pay the tax and then get it back in a couple months

But stil

The middle package

[static ruin]

I meant for the average consumer

[inner ether]

964 euro

for 2 hours of shooting

[static ruin]

Most people aren't claiming tax back on purchases

[inner ether]

As a normal consumer, you cant

[errant linden]

I'm outta here, gonna go downstairs and listen to some music in the dark. too hot to fucking turn my ps4 on

since 5.30, my room has went down 1 degree (28.2 to 27.2). Meanwhiile, outside, it's went down 5 degrees...windows and doors open, the fucking room is a heat trap

fml

[static ruin]

lol

Still surprised we haven't cracked 40 yet

Issue for me has been the hayfever, hit me real hard yesterday and this morning

[late parcel]

Sounds like a plan

Take care

@errant linden here is the only car photo I ever have taken, and probably ever will

[timber spruce]

aj is now a car photographer?

dang

[late parcel]

No

I took it in July 😂

Only just got it off my card now

Anyways feel free to criticise and critique lmao

[inner ether]

oh wait you're AJ?

I didn't recognize your name change

[timber spruce]

okay you're a car photographer now

noted

[late parcel]

Lmao yes

[late parcel]

😭

I will be a plane photographer one day 🥲

[timber spruce]

inshallah you will

[late parcel]

🙏

Thanks

[dim forge]

just base model porcher nothing special not even eye level i can go on why it's shit

[coral crescent]

good

[dim forge]

never take a photo of a car again

[errant linden]

05 porsche carrera

noice

[errant linden]

💀

[late parcel]

Yessss

Thanks

That’s what I wanted to hear

I don’t like cars

There is only one car I ever want to photograph

And that’s a corvette stingray c3

[dim forge]

eh au falcon better

alright i gotta stop being negative im not even in bad mood

[static ruin]

I'm finding out about some rather poor design choices in my falcon this week, looks like once all is said and done I'll be a good part of the way to spending a z8 on it..

At around $1500 to get it running, another issue I need to sort out now, cheaper solution in looking at is diy for $700ish, otherwise I'll be down another $2000-2500ish if I take it to ford from what I can find

[errant linden]

ooh classic

[sharp steppe]

the AU Falcon is disgustingly ugly tho

[dim forge]

cant spell beautiful without au mate

[sharp steppe]

its ass tho

[late parcel]

Lmao

[sharp steppe]

At least its not the Ford Taurus of the same year

which is like the AU falcon with some chromosomes missing

[dim forge]

how is it ass?

the intec is one of the best engines to ever be made you cant kill it

[sharp steppe]

it looks like it was dropped on its head on the concept board

[dim forge]

thats the only thing you haters have to say about it

[static ruin]

And apparently doesn't have an entertainment screen that breaks when you replace the battery!

But yeah those things keep soldiering on for the most part

[dim forge]

yep that's why i love them so much yes they are ugly ducks but it makes up for it for how much of tank it is

[karmic lily]

giving me the "bruh" face

[quaint comet]

super shitty pic (night time :( ) but can anyone tell us was this bird is???? i nearly ran it over lmao

[coral crescent]

Great blue heron

[quaint comet]

thank uuuu

[feral herald]

Right facing subject

[acoustic lark]

Doesn’t look very blue

[dull copper]

Australia Loud & Proud

if photo is bad quality click on it and wait for it to load properly

[quaint comet]

where was that?

[left ridge]

Holy shoot dudes the moon’s out

[eternal moat]

What broke on it?

[eternal moat]

Someone twin charged (turbo and supercharger) their AU

A quick snap from going over Brown Mountain

[static ruin]

Oil leak in power steering fluid tank killed the alternator, entertainment screen died with the battery. Did find the root cause, tl:dr is corrupt flash memory

So probably see if Ford can reload it which is 50/50 of it working, if not just going to grab a 3rd party one and do it myself

[dull copper]

Narrendera Rod & Custom Run

[dim forge]

Have a mate that lives there

[dim forge]

people have done everything with the au

[dull copper]

i mean at the narrendera rod run there was a limo AU 😂

[dim forge]

didn't get a shot of it?

[dull copper]

sadly not

there was another ford limo

it looks similar to the au lemme find it rq

the photo is raw since i didn’t post it

[dim forge]

Fuck yeah that's awesome

[errant linden]

I don't usually do landscapes, but the setting Sun was amazing so took a few shots.

[dull copper]

which would you take?

[dim forge]

The vh ofc but that 32 would also be nice

[foggy steppe]

I would take a photo of something other than a car

[dim forge]

that's his interest if you don't find it interesting then why even waste your time commenting on it this added nothing but just a rude comment proud?

[coral crescent]

I think Iona meant that quite literally lol

He just wouldn't shoot cars

[foggy steppe]

Yep

[dim forge]

he asked which one would you choose then he flipped on to him saying oh i wouldn't shoot cars it added nothing to the topic it was pointless

[foggy steppe]

Car photographers not being able to take a joke

[dim forge]

I don't shoot cars

[foggy steppe]

He asked which would you take

[coral crescent]

Well it answered the question

"you like vanilla or chocolate ice cream" "I don't like ice cream"

I don't see a problem

[dim forge]

not in the slightest

[errant linden]

oh god

[woeful flame]

slimbo

[dim forge]

I was sticking up for your community you should be kissing my feet right now lil bro

[errant linden]

big doggery

[errant linden]

mb daddy

[dim forge]

yeah that's it now go back in your shell

[coral crescent]

Ben are you in y12 now

[errant linden]

https://tenor.com/view/case-loserlocke-gif-26478091

[dim forge]

alright i took this too far even I'm cringing at my own messages

[dim forge]

Nah no fr

[errant linden]

this server is a bit

[dim forge]

is a bit what huh

[coral crescent]

Answer the question Ben

[dim forge]

yeah ben finish it

[foggy steppe]

Y'know I was wrong for arguing with children

Shouldn't do that

[coral crescent]

[dim forge]

It wasn't an argument in the slightest i just thought you were being a dick but i misunderstood

[errant linden]

Im afraid of answering

[dim forge]

This servers what say it

[coral crescent]

Are in you in y12 or not

[dim forge]

👍

[coral crescent]

[errant linden]

k

[coral crescent]

[karmic lily]

WRENSDAY IT'S WRENSDAY

[dim forge]

holy shit it's a titty

[karmic lily]

A WHAT

[errant linden]

blu titty

[dim forge]

that's the bird right no i don't know my birds

[dim forge]

One of kind

[karmic lily]

It be fairy wren, White winged Fairy wren specifically

Even lads who dont know they birds know fairy wrens

[errant linden]

he did say its wrensday

[dim forge]

I need to study my birds more then so i can start pointing them out when on hikes

[karmic lily]

They often make area specific bird books

just get one for your local area

[dim forge]

rightyo

[eternal moat]

Either as I’m not a Commodore man

[exotic oyster]

gday mates

[karmic lily]

DON'T YOU MEAN

Nah I wont say it

gday

[late parcel]

Lmao

Gday

[dim forge]

g'day cunts

[exotic oyster]

just joined the server. moved from perth to california this year and missing home! 🦘

scrolling through and loving the pics of kites, tawnies, herons, wrens

[acoustic lark]

welcome to the server <3
aussie lounge is our home and we do not leave for the rest of the server is scary uncharted territory

[inner ether]

For me its either aussie lounge, fancy lounge, or gear help

[crystal jacinth]

not an aussie btw

[inner ether]

yep

im from like

the opposite side of the world

[fleet edge]

Oh no, it's a ameristralian

:P

Have a free cropped to shit welcome swallow because fuck shooting these guys

[woeful flame]

welcome to california

[exotic oyster]

cheers! i like this corner of the server (:

[exotic oyster]

cheers fella 🇺🇸 !

[exotic oyster]

nice capture - what were you shooting with?

[fleet edge]

R6ii RF 100-400 f8

[exotic oyster]

sick - must have been hard af to tracking this swallow and keep it all in focus

[fleet edge]

The focus was easy, the camera did it all for me

Keeping it in frame was hard tho

Modern bird AF is a godsend

[exotic oyster]

does it basically keep the eye constantly in focus?

[fleet edge]

Yeah

Perfectly too

[static ruin]

It's like a cheat code for photography

[exotic oyster]

i've used eye af and it rocks but not sure my cam body has a bird af tbh. will have to look into it

would love to see more of everyone's shots. how does it work in this server? does everyone just share instagram? i saw there was a profiles section too?

[fleet edge]

Some people share their work in the gallery channels

Some just dump in here

But a lot of us also very rarely share

[acoustic lark]

^and there’s a reason for that

[exotic oyster]

roger that

[exotic oyster]

haha what reason?

[static ruin]

Well you're supposed to gas, not actually use said equipment right?

[acoustic lark]

The community

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[exotic oyster]

ah gotcha

[static ruin]

But yeah I've just not really taken much im terribly happy with in recent months, though camera being in repair for the better part of 2 months gives me an excuse lol

[exotic oyster]

2 months damn that's a drag

[static ruin]

Few from when I had the camera back with the new 180-600, it broke again not long after lol

[exotic oyster]

deadly shots. sharp as hell mate - never seen one of those on the left actualy

[late parcel]

Cries with d300s

[fleet edge]

Come to the next meet up

[static ruin]

Or the last hike which was a while back now, still want to refine the photo, has more potential

[fleet edge]

I'll bring a spare camera

[late parcel]

🥺

[static ruin]

Robin doesn't mess around, will probably have 10 spare cameras

[fleet edge]

Words cannot describe how bad I want that 200-800

[static ruin]

lol

[exotic oyster]

gorgeous - whereabouts is that?

[static ruin]

This is the blue mountains, west of Sydney

[exotic oyster]

always wanted to go - i'm from WA and never made it over east too much

[static ruin]

I also want to get to WA someday

Very much a case of too much to do, not enough time and money though, so it'll probably be if I get that 4wd someday and make a bigger trip around Aus

[exotic oyster]

too right. i reckon that's the way to do it tho. would make for a beautiful drive

[woeful flame]

i see what you mean with people complaining about 200-800 aperture

on the redditor server

[static ruin]

Yeah, never been outback either, would make for a fun experience to see, more suitable car just opens up options out there

[fleet edge]

:P

Imagine having you entire subject in focus

[static ruin]

It's not just that, if they actually made it faster at 800mm, instead people would be complaining about the insane cost lol

Basically no winning with some people

[fleet edge]

200-800 6.3

$25k

[sharp steppe]

+200mm for 1 stop worse seems like a fine trade off

[woeful flame]

he was also complaining about cost lmfao

[sharp steppe]

Basically the same as a 1.4X TC on a 600/6.3

but probably much better IQ

[woeful flame]

as if sony 200-600 isnt the same price

[sharp steppe]

here, 200-600G = 3150. 200-800 = 3850

Of course, the 200-600 has a used market, so price there is more like 2100 now

(NZD)

[woeful flame]

why do they fuck you like that

how much does shipping to oceania really cost them

[sharp steppe]

shipping, GST, lack of large market (so less bulk buying incentive etc etc)

[fleet edge]

200-800 is 3400 AUD here

So 3700NZD

[sharp steppe]

10% v 15% GST

[fleet edge]

F

Didn't realise your GST was 15%

[sharp steppe]

yeah...

used to be 12.5

oh well

[late parcel]

Borzois

[timber spruce]

soo cute

[left ridge]

didn’t I do it for you

[dim forge]

Holy shit good job

[left ridge]

Big ass mango

[dim forge]

eat it with the still in intact

[left ridge]

Hmmmm taste waxy

[dim forge]

maybe wash it lmao

[errant linden]

[late parcel]

Ugh

Why did I take my meds

Now I can’t sleep and I’m emotional

And frustrated with maths

[dull copper]

my dog with her 2 lil feets on the window frame

[exotic oyster]

what's her name!?

[dull copper]

Abby

[exotic oyster]

Abbbbbyyyyyyyyyyy

adorable

[dim forge]

you good backpain

[left ridge]

🫵

👌

🫶

[errant linden]

Hey everyone

[left ridge]

i found a bunch of blurry burst pics

jesus christ it’s not loading

[coral crescent]

lmao

That's fun

[left ridge]

i knew those 60 pics weren’t for nothing

[coral crescent]

It's a vibe icl

[static ruin]

Why weather gods tease me, just seen a nice picture of the Aurora from Parkes NSW tonight, very solid red glow... Nothing but cloud here

[coral crescent]

Seeing an aurora is on my bucket list

I wanna head to Iceland some point later in life

[static ruin]

I'd love to see it properly near the arctic circle

[coral crescent]

Oh Angie's lurking

[static ruin]

I just want to get a picture of landscape here with a Green and/or red glow for something different, particularly while we're near solar max, it's the best time

[coral crescent]

Yeah fair enough

I just think it'd be a surreal experience

[static ruin]

Still being slammed by the CME so is entirely possible they'll creep up again tonight, but yeah I don't think it's supposed to clear up

[late parcel]

Made this to put at work and the horse place, the boxes are just personal info

[coral crescent]

You should change the font of the "Christmas hat and wreath provided part"

It's throwing off the poster imo

[dull copper]

my 11 old (in human years) cat Ash

this is my entry even though i’m not in it

[late parcel]

Hm?

[late parcel]

Ok thanks lol

[dim forge]

I see i see on the grind very nice

[feral cargo]

It's the aussies

[late parcel]

It is

[feral cargo]

Am I allowed here?

[dim forge]

I mean you are from florida or something like that

[feral cargo]

Basically Australia

[dim forge]

exactly

[feral cargo]

I've also been called Australian

So i think it's fine

[exotic oyster]

You have gators over there that's basically a crocodile 😆

[static ruin]

And our weather (in terms of temp and humidity) is very similar to Florida currently

Still looking forwards to Thursday though, holy crap if that storm forecast holds 👀

Downside is I think there's a solid chance of somewhere around here taking damage from big hail

[feral cargo]

Morning aussies

[errant linden]

mernin

wait a minute........

somethings off

[static ruin]

G'day

[eternal moat]

Border collie best doggos

[eternal moat]

Wait you’re only charging $10? How long is a session?

[late parcel]

I dunno yet

It’s for people I somewhat know

And just so I can build a portfolio

[coral crescent]

$10 for first hour and 5 every hour after that

that might be better

[late parcel]

Yeah ok thanks

I kinda doubt they’ll reach an hour though anyways

[coral crescent]

call it insurance in case it does ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dull copper]

Old or New?

[errant linden]

lowkey like the new better super boxy cars aren't my thing

not super boxy tbf but u get what I mean

[late parcel]

Old for sure

Saw a corvette stingray c3 today

[errant linden]

ooh nice

Saw this huayra 3 days ago

[late parcel]

Oooo

[errant linden]

I sent this to my mates for halloween

[eternal moat]

If you're just port building charge like $50-100 for the mini session 30mins

I charge $370 for a pet shoot and I still consider that pretty cheap

[dim forge]

explains why your a subi fan

I absolutely adore boxy designa specially the dr30 and the r31

[errant linden]

ye tru I really like the pagani huayra which is super curvy so explains why

BUT I can def get behind boxy cars I love 3rd gen preludes

[cobalt blade]

r31 is hot

[cobalt blade]

ok but the pagani huayra is perfection

paganis in general are all incredible

ughhhhhh

[woeful belfry]

Hallo Optus users. Sorry about your day.

[woeful belfry]

It's no Mach 5

[dim forge]

looks stupid

[woeful belfry]

It's the Mach 5 dude

[dim forge]

You sure it isn't a shot of hotwheels car?

[feral cargo]

Cars smh

[woeful belfry]

sigh ... kids today man. No culture.

[dim forge]

It's not even in the lounge channel get out of here ya yank

[feral cargo]

[dim forge]

I know very uncultured of me all though it does look cool i take back what i say about it looking stupid i would definitely be hyped if I saw it driving around

[woeful belfry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suCm1w_KTiY

Literally a car designed in the mid-late 60s

[dim forge]

We designed the Holden hurricane in 69 which has a timeless design nothing like it

[woeful belfry]

"we"

I don't think you had much to do with that

[dim forge]

we as in Australians but ok

[errant linden]

this dealer sort of near me just got a zonda r

but they dont let you in everytime depends when u go in

[woeful belfry]

Optus still don't know what's at the root of the outage ... that's hectic.

I like their announcement that they won't rest until services are restored though.

Cos like .. yea, of course they'd take a 15 minute morning tea break and put it on ice

[late parcel]

Good evening

[static ruin]

It's a good reminder of how fragile our infrastructure really is, also why I usually keep a bit of cash on me always, a lot of stores are currently cash only since they depend on the connections otherwise

[timber spruce]

hi

[late parcel]

Sal

Wait

You don’t hate pizza now?

[timber spruce]

no

i had a nice one today

the cheese wasn't too oily

and didn't make me vomit

[feral herald]

Was this pizza

[timber spruce]

no it wasn't shit

@late parcel

[feral herald]

Where’s the pasta?

[timber spruce]

ew

stfu

[feral herald]

Cancelled.

[woeful belfry]

What's the green?

[feral herald]

Bell peppers

[woeful flame]

Lahmacun

[timber spruce]

Lahmacun + sumac >>>>>>> any fucking pizza

brother

i can get the best Lahmacun ever

for like 2$

and add sumac

and omg

i'm getting hungry at 4am

[woeful flame]

man i always have lahmacun in my fridge

nice lebanese grandma makes them for us

olive oil sumac lemon

[timber spruce]

nice

it's not even hard to make

[woeful belfry]

Needs to be red or yellow capsicum. Green is the inferior option.

Especially when combined with olives and pineapple.

Pizza FAIL.

[errant linden]

Sloptus fucking up ywt again

Network software update issue my ass

[errant linden]

I base that on 8 years as a level 3 tech/sysadmin for a small ISP where it was all hands on deck (my speciality area was the sysadmin for our web/email/sql/bind/ntp/ms exchange servers, but also had to be proficient in helping to manage our freepbx, asterisks voice platforms, as well as cisco routers and switches, and redback core router)

you can't even fucking speak to a Sloptus tech

just useless customer service officers who have no fucking idea what they are doing or talking about

13 months left on my contract with Sloptus and then pissing them off and switching to Telstra

[late parcel]

I wanna throw my camera off my roof

Tracking doenst track

And sharpness doenst exist

[coral crescent]

shots like this are a struggle for even my camera lmao

[errant linden]

dont do that ur camera might break

[late parcel]

All of the bird ones didn’t focus

Even against a clear sky

[coral crescent]

were they coming straight at you

[late parcel]

That’s just the one I’m the most bummed about

[late parcel]

Nope

[coral crescent]

thats weird then

I'm used to that as well, I shot on a 600D for god knows how long

but what I found is if they're not stationary then the focus is gonna have a fuckin seizure

[late parcel]

😭

My Fuji tracking is soooo good compared to my Nikon d300s

[coral crescent]

yep sounds about right lmao

d300's arent known for their focusing

[late parcel]

Makes me want to cry

[coral crescent]

I remembering getting my 5d4 and realising that focusing is fucking easy

[late parcel]

Esp with a 10 year old beaten up sigma 50-500

[coral crescent]

like genuinly it was a mind fuck

I realised how easy everyone had it focusing

[late parcel]

😂

[coral crescent]

like back in the sydney meet

[late parcel]

My fuj is pretty much point and shoot

[coral crescent]

Robin let me try the R7

jfc

the focusing

[late parcel]

Lmao

[coral crescent]

dude it felt like a cheat code

like hacks were unlocked or some shit

I had never experinced focusing that good

and now its the norm lmao

[late parcel]

My friends event photographer has a Z9…. Oh my goodness he said he can put barely any effort in and still get decent to good pics

[coral crescent]

yeah the Z9 is a monster lmao

[late parcel]

I honestly tested up listening to him lmao

[coral crescent]

also

to be expected at that price point

[late parcel]

😭

Don’t stab my little bit of hope

[coral crescent]

sell the cams and you'll have 20% (maybe)

[late parcel]

I want to upgrade from my Nikon set up but I don’t know what to upgrade to

[coral crescent]

if I sold all my camera gear I might be able to buy a z9 lmao

[late parcel]

Or whether to just buy a bigger zoom for my fuj

[coral crescent]

what cams do you have right now?

[late parcel]

Selling all mine probs still wouldn’t be enough

[late parcel]

XH2 and D300s

[coral crescent]

XH2 is nice

what lenses on that

[late parcel]

Very

I was having a tonnneee of trouble with it but factory reset it and now I’m doing ok with it again

[late parcel]

Lemme check

10-24, 18-55, 16-80, 50-230

[coral crescent]

apertures?

[late parcel]

Lemme just send a pic of Al of them lol

[coral crescent]

[coral crescent]

Thats a really nice street setup

what do you mainly shoot?

[late parcel]

But I’m not a street tog

Birds

[coral crescent]

Oh you also do birds?

[late parcel]

And going to my first airshow next week

[coral crescent]

I keep forgetting lmao

[late parcel]

Pretty much only birds

[coral crescent]

ah well those are mostly the wrong lenses

[late parcel]

Yuppppo

[coral crescent]

I can't say wrong

but not ideal

[late parcel]

Dad bought them for me… and then made me pay him back

[coral crescent]

230mm longest focal length?

[late parcel]

So I went broke on lenses I didn’t choose

[late parcel]

Yeah

[coral crescent]

fuck I got no clue for fuji long focal lengths

I know they have a 150-600

[late parcel]

I wanna get a 600

Yeah

[coral crescent]

but thats 3k

[late parcel]

But I’m broke

Yup

[coral crescent]

yeah fuji isn't the most ideal for birds

[late parcel]

Nope

[coral crescent]

go ask in gear help, this is an Idaea and Jordan thing

Fuji birds is out of my expertise

[late parcel]

Yeah I was talking to Idaea yesterday

[coral crescent]

What'd he say?

[late parcel]

Same as you

[coral crescent]

In Jordan we trust

maybe ask ced as well, he's a fuji cultist

[late parcel]

Said I could’ve gone song

Sony

But I’m too broke for Sony

[late parcel]

Where do I ping him? Fuji shrine is currently busy. Gear help?

Also busy there

[coral crescent]

He should be up soon

yeah I'd ping him in gear help

[late parcel]

Ok thanks, I’ll wait until it’s calmed down there

[coral crescent]

He doesnt do wildlife but he's a sucker for long focal lengths so he might know something

[late parcel]

Lmao

[woeful flame]

best not to enter

[coral crescent]

gear help can be a nightmare depending on who's asking, Aj should be fine

[late parcel]

Depending on who’s asking 💀

Now I’m scared lol

[coral crescent]

nah don't worry

All of the gear help regulars know what they're on about are nice

[static ruin]

The funny thing is by modern standards, the 5d mkiv is just average

Just how insane AF has become

[woeful flame]

#📞・gear-help-archived message

[coral crescent]

Until they're fed up which is fair enough

[foggy steppe]

Centre point mode, af-c and manually track

[errant linden]

even my R3 fucks those types of shots up, and at a high rate (I reckon around a 10% keeper rate with birds flying directly at me/camera)

[errant linden]

go an OM-1 with a 300f4 and 1.4x TC. Will end up being 840mm f5.6 reach wise. Very light, very good AF system

bsi stacked 20mp sensor (crop). very good IQ and shits on a R7 IQ wise.

at 1 of my local birding venues, I've seen 2x R5 users, a R6 user, myself with a R3 and 7 OM-1 users

at another, I've seen 1 sony A1 user, and 3x OM-1 users

no Canon users

for macro, nearly all macro shooters I know of, have switched to the OM-1 and 90mm macro lens

if I was starting afresh, with no prior investment, I wouldn't touch Canon with a 200 parsec barge pole

OM-1 would be my first choice, followed by the A1 and then the Z8

OM-1 2.5k AUD, 300f4 3.5k AUD, not sure on the 1.4x TC. but 840mm reach at f5.6

a Canon rf800 f5.6 lens is like 35k AUD

[inner ether]

I'd go Nikon > Canon > Olympus

[errant linden]

and the lens alone is heavier than the entire OM-1 rig

[inner ether]

Simply because 48mpx stacked?

Nothing's gonna beat that

[errant linden]

45mp stacked

the A1 is 50mp stacked

[inner ether]

And you can adapt Nikon F glass

[errant linden]

so it beats the z9/z8

[inner ether]

A1 is god slow compared to Z8

in terms of AF

Lens selection for tele is also hot garbage

[errant linden]

in terms of resolution and DR and high ISO performance and also AF performance

(just on the AF performance)

[inner ether]

Z8/Z9 AF is quite a bit better than the A1

[errant linden]

that is NOT what I have heard from 2 A1 users (1 of which was a Canon pro user for 30 odd years)

hell, artie morris switched to a A1

after 40 odd years using a Canon setup

[inner ether]

The Z8/Z9 got some firmware updates, shit improved massivelyt

[errant linden]

and I value his opinion far more than some random on teh net

[inner ether]

Ah ur one of those

[errant linden]

nope. You're just a random with no reputation, spouting favouritism as "fact"

I'm not saying the z8/z9 are bad btw, they are very very good, only slightly inferior to the A1

with or without firmware updates

[timber spruce]

lol

[errant linden]

Nikon glass is 100% better than Sony no argument there

Canon is a distant 3rd place as it is falling further and further behind Sony (which makes the Nikon z8/9 sensor btw)

[inner ether]

What 😭 Canon is in no way in last place

Cuz EF - RF adapter exists

[timber spruce]

loool

[errant linden]

which exist for both Sony and Nikon...so your point is?

Canon cripples older glass too when used on a R body...I have no proof, but I have strong suspicions that this is deliberate to "encourage" users to fork out for overpriced RF glass

on average, 35-50% more expensive than their EF counterparts

[inner ether]

What do you even shoot now

Cuz from memory you shot R3

[errant linden]

yeah, R3

probably gonna sell, and sell my 500f4 mark 1 and use my tax return to get a A1 and 200-600

[inner ether]

Wait for A1ii then

Cuz it wont be long till that thing comes out

[errant linden]

yeah true

[inner ether]

Which is gonna be LOADS better

Cuz they're gonna add their AI AF and shit like on the A7R5

[errant linden]

I reckon the R1 will be 45mp bsi stacked (no qpaf) and the r5II will be a normal 62mp sensor

[inner ether]

It will have qpaf

[errant linden]

A1 II will almost certainly have a global shutter and qpaf

[inner ether]

Dont think it will have GS

Otherwise WAY Too expensive

It's gonna gost 10k+ then

[errant linden]

working pros will pay for it

[inner ether]

Cuz 24mpx GS costs 6k already

[errant linden]

R1 will be 11k imho

[inner ether]

R1 will be 8.5K$ MSRP

[errant linden]

R3 was 8.5k on release

[inner ether]

AUD yeah

Not USD

[errant linden]

Aussie here, in the Aussie lounge server, so...talking AUD

[inner ether]

Wait I forgot im in down under lounge

[errant linden]

yup

[inner ether]

A1ii is gonna cost 15k+ then

if it has 50mpx GS

Gonna be 10k USD

if its 50mpx GS

[errant linden]

Sony is big enough to take a loss on the camera division (and make mega profits elsewhere) to price match the R1 and outperform it specs and performance wise imho

the profit and long term profit is in the system

much like microsoft's golden goose is office, not windows

why do you think microsoft never ported office to GNU/Linux 😉

a fuck load better o/s in every area, people would leave windows in droves...

[inner ether]

Then tell the 40 y/o working person to setup a Linux distro

[errant linden]

these days, it's pretty damn easy

20 years ago, not so