#Thoughts on SZNZ Winter?
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Autumn was the best for me by far, summer was good, and then spring was kinda boring and the style of winter isn’t doing it for me
There all good albums tho don’t get me wrong
People have compared winter to blue sound wise
People compared blue to ewbaite and that didn’t do it for me
Ok ok
Get rid of the And white and ill agree
But you think Pinkerton is there best album so it’s alright
Weezer fans are so divided it’s crazy
Kinda like sonic
Weezer has tried so much different stuff that no one can agree on what is good or bad. Except pinkerton since mostly everyone loves pinkerton
Yeah it’s overrated but still a great album
Take that backv
this is just weezer again
halfway through and im liking this
Its probablyy one of the best sznz
To be honest i didnt really like autumn it was overall pretty mediocre and somewhat is this one too but it got a nice kick to it
Never
dark enough is actually so good
the lyrics
the instrumental
the fucking harmonica going crazy
The entire album is so good
it’s literally just Existential Crisis: The Song
sznz was good, nothing that knocked my socks off but it did it’s job of not being ass. good job, didn’t think they’d be able to create 4 alright sounding eps in a year.
literally
not that i dislike the album but im not really sure i see this
how is it akin to classic weezer in your opinion?
It's good
i mean
some of the songs definitely incorporate classic elements, but i feel that only like, 2 songs were truly classic weezer
Like old Weezer
it’s definitely more like blue than any other projects they’ve ever done
I was mostly saying that to call it good 💀
Legit tho uh
Dark Enough gives me serious Blue vibes
harmonica
oh yeah definitely
they pull the god damn harmonica out like, 2 times
Especially the harmonica, yeah
yeah
love how everyone agrees that any weezer song with harmonica in it goes fucking hard
god im in love with deep and dreamless + dark enough
IT DO
idk i don’t think it was bad, but i feel like i want a dog got my expectations a bit too high
IN THE GARAGE MY BELOVED
YEAH
reminder that freak me out has the harmonica
i saw someone say this before, but i want a dog feels out of place
Nvm fuck harmonicas
fr B)
it’s good, don’t get me wrong, but just a bit out of place
anyways quick top 10 sznz song ranking!!
- The Deep and Dreamless Sleep
- Thank You and Good Night
- Dark Enough to See the Stars
- Run, Raven, Run
- Can’t Dance, Don’t Ask Me
- The Opposite of Me
- Iambic Pentameter
- The Sound of Drums
- Basketball
- Get Off on the Pain
when i have more time ill tweak it
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I agree with most of it
I'd just put TYAGN a lil lower and Can't Dance at number 2 personally
ok human was literally only two years ago
and you’re right
But Winter's still up there compared to everything else
OKH is a fucking masterpiece tbf
I think SZNZ should have a place in Weezer's Pantheon
As a whole, not just Winter or Winter and Autumn, I think the whole thing has given us some of the biggest slappers from this band we've ever gotten.
yeah sznz was catchy for sure
spring is still may favorite
There is no bad favorite here I think
I might like Autumn a smidge better than Winter bc Autumn is more Pinkerton-y whereas Winter is more Blue Album
And I've always preferred Pink
Also bc of Pacific Sunset finally getting realized lol
honestly one of the best moments of sznz
Thing with Winter is, it finally felt like a Weezer project, not just a Rivers project
It was such a great way to add Sunset
Run Raven Run almost blows the original demo of Pacific out of the water for me
I just wish the verse was incorporated in some way and then it would be perfect
I hope someday Rivers or Weezer as a collective still records Pacific Sunset though when I think about it. Everything about it's melodies is perfect.
But Run Raven Run's verses and bridges are PEAK as well
So you're basically taking peak and adding it to peak, it's great stuff.
tastes like pain is probably in my top 3 tracks of sznz.
Top 3 is hard
Top 5 and Top 10 are also hard
Most Weezer projects don't even give us 10 good songs so this is a massive W
My top 3 are DADS, RRR, and TYAGN
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Weezer killed on the closers
i like songs that culminate, like Near DT, MI by black midi (those two are rather different but still have the build up and destruction i am talking about)
I wish Wild at Heart was on the same level as those, it feels like there's something there but it needs like, some crazy solo shit going on.
If Spring and Summer were produced a little bit better I think there'd be more room for debate between the four SZNZ
I have been saying this a lot but if spring had strings instead of guitars and guitars only came in at the end of Wild at heart it would go crazy
A Little Bit Of Love, Tastes Like Pain, Angels on Vacation, The Garden Of Eden and Run Raven Run are my top 5 as of today. Gonna listen to the entirety of SZNZ more, so this is definitely subject to change.
Weezer
Weerez
Oh fugg Garden of Eden is so GOOD
It's just the perfect amount of cheese
I like how as the series progressed the songs became more and more Weezer-like
Winter album is exactly what I thought it was. It’s the perfect middle ground, and the debut song imo is the best out of all other SZNZ albums.
Nothing special for sure
But something listenable
that and sound of drums are the best on spring imo
I personally liked basketball
i love basketball

I don't think I've ever seen summer at the top of the list yet
summer is so underrated
I do like summer, but it's definitely number 3
I really liked winter
It was really cool, I really loved the deep and dreamless sleep
That song had this feel to it it was really good
Idk how to describe it lmao
And all the other songs were great as well
Might be my favorite sznz
B+ or A-
Brian's backing vocals on Winter though
Yeah, they were amazing
Brian overall though
Billy Cobb hated Winter :(
Says it was a snoozefest and his least favorite of the SZNZ
Any word on Winter's Vinyl Bonus track at all?
Who cares about what billy cobb likes, lol
yeah other people's general opinions shouldn't matter, what I wanna know is what his criticisms were of the songs snd stuff like that
if somebody dislikes something I like that's just normal but I do think it's important to know flaws in whatever product you're consuming or things that might help you appreciate it more in the opposite case
idk
where did he say that?
Pretty good, but kind of forgettable
I gotta listen to the full project over again
I feel like Summer may have a slight edge over Winter for me but I'm not sure yet
I feel like we’re gonna have to sit on it longer to know for stuff like that
That's fair, I think.
Love the album but yknow just how it b with all music
I feel like again, for me it comes from my preference of Pinkerton over Blue. Winter is more Blue but I feel like Summer in some places is more Pinkerton and Autumn especially captures that kinda vibe for me.
Though Summer has way more in common with like, Van Weezer than anything.
Fair I def have a tendency to lean towards things more White sounding w writing style so I get where ur comin from
Oh dude White is so good
Summer is great for people like me who are fans of cocky, bombastic Rivers. The kind that shows up on American Gigolo, Mo Beats and Can't Knock the Hustle.
True I like a bit of that every now and again
Like I love it when he has the "suck my dick bitch I wrote Buddy Holly" energy
I’m a big fan of like semi angsty rivers
Where it doesn’t necessarily have to be cocky or mean just like really dramatic
Numbers, Slob, Burndt Jamb, Friend of a Friend
I genuinely really like mean Rivers, more songs like Mo Beats and Tell Me What You Want please.
True cocky rivers is pretty fun
Dramatic Rivers is also really good and I think Autumn does a lot of that.
Yea especially Get Off On The Pain
Get Off On The Pain is one of those songs that when I first heard it reminded me of why I love Weezer
Autumn and Winter delve so much into relationships and social anxiety which is part of why I think those albums sound very Weezer-y. That's their brand.
i couldn't remember one song after listening to it over and over again but i liked some of em
For sure it makes them fit in in nature while standing out as an EP
Idk Winter is super memorable to me after like3 listens it’s been engrained
Same with Autumn
ive only really listened to it fully twice
The cocky, fuck-off energy of Summer and the sheer positive good vibes of Spring aren't as much Weezer's brand. I think the contrast between the band sounding more like themselves while the themes slowly become more miserable is interesting.
I guess it ain't easy being Weezy
Fair it did help I listened to the bootleg a lil bit here and there early on
yeah same
Fr I like weezer experimentation so I respect summer and spring but they def leaned way harder on the initial concept
Rather than balancing it like Autumn and Winter
SZNZ, I think, really plays with the idea of "Rivers can only write good music when he's sad/miserable" very well.
i didnt remember any of the songs when i listened to the bootleg
iambic is weird
It def makes it seem more the case at least
I remembered Sheraton Commander and I think the Bootleg is better.
i just realized that i can relate to the lyrics
and that scares me
the bootleg intro is longer too
Idk Sheraton I was never super high on
Oh Iambic is very relatable if you have anxiety or special interests.
Iambic got leagues better imo
"I wish my anguish/anxiety was as easy to explain as this super niche thing I like" is surprisingly relatable
i like the start of it but it changes like halfway through the song
Fr it’s a super relatable song
I love how weird it is tbh
I think Iambic's changes are a bit too abrupt now but it is better than the bootleg.
yeah
It helps the concept of the song imo
I think Sheraton is the only one where I like the bootleg better.
Like trying to explain smth so bad you try every method like how the song keeps changing till you just go back to square 1
i liked basketball bootleg better
I like both versions of Deep and Dreamless Sleep but the final version is so much grander and more Weezer.
i dont remember what deep and dreamless sleep sounds like
Basketball feels like the same song to me tbh? The only exception is the bridge which you do get used to after a while.
I like it better now too
i was kinda mad when i saw Sheraton not being the first song on the ep
Deep and Dreamless gives that vibe of accepting death, then the dread of it coming, but then being saved at the last minute by some kind of Deus Ex Machina.
Only song I was a little hesitant on was The One That Got Aways drum change but I’ve gotten used to it. I do wish it kept the slower drums on the 2nd “hurricane” part the. Goes back to fast
It def woulda been more of a concrete intro
The One That Got Away is so much better now for me haha
oh yeah i’m liking iambic way more
i guess i was just too tired to understand it last time
I think the only reason I'm iffy on Sheraton is because it captured me so well on my initial listen and so I listened to it a second, fifth, and fortieth time lol
That version of Sheraton would have been an amazing opener but alas
I don't think the new one works nearly as well as an opening track
also i will die on the hill that the jimmy kimmel version of i want a dog is the best
But neither does I Want A Dog so hey
I like the instrumentation on the new Sheraton but yea the old sequencing was better overall
I think if Rivers left the chorus of IWAD alone but sang it in the higher register of the final version it would be perfect
i want a dog feels more like a later song in the ep
The Final Version is VERY Queen and I love it but I also love the "I live in a prison" lyric so bleh
man this entire ep is just the anxiety anthem isn’t it
id put summer first and this second
Autumn gets first place for Run Raven Run alone and then on top of that is a slappin EP #AutumnSweep
my rating by the end of this will probably be
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The guitar in basketball reminds me alot of friends of p by rentals and some fountains of wayne stuff
True 90s stuff

The hooks on Winter are all so great.
But damn that second prechorus on Blue Like Jazz is single-handedly holding Summer up.
i’m on deep and dreamless
yeah this is true
blue like jazz is fucking amazing
Blue Like Jazz deserves more love
it’s so catchy
That “aah-aaaah” after “my mother’s boy” is my favorite Weezer moment, no exaggeration.
Dude thank you. When I first heard that I actually stopped what I was doing and had to play it again
Goosebumps moment
same, i was really hoping for an explosion like in tastes like pain and lawn chair
I think about that part of the song often lmao
blue like jazz good
i love that so much as well
rivaled only by the "lord im runnin" from brian in dark enough to see the stars' bridge
Omg ikr
I hate Winter now suddenly
why did rivers go all out on DADS solo like what the fuck
it is actually the best thing they have done in a song ever like holy shit
my SZNZ tier list:
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LOVE THAT MOMENT
proof?
i remember his comment on a reddit post saying he liked i want a dog
winter sounds like something he would defintely like from weezer
its in the megathread for winter
said its boring but i want a dog is top 3 sznz song
Damn
Im actually really surprised by that
Winter has all the ingredients for someone like billy to enjoy it
But oh well
Also i havent been able to check reddit lately. Whats the consensus about winter in the subreddit?
Yeah it's not a kind place in terms of sharing opinions
Does anyone have a link to the SZNZ songs tier list
Also based Chi Yu pfp
I love the goldfish
Doesn't include b sides
Thanks
Both giga chad moments
true ‼️
I'm tempted to agree with that
WINTER IS SO GOOD OMG
I LIKE I REALLY REALY LIKE WINTER AND AUTUMN AND SPRING AND SUMMER THEY MAME ME SO HAPPY
I love it so much
sameee
I want a dog is way higher for me ngl
WHAY is not bad weez 🗿
It's shit
bad take
pretty close to my tier list
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My opinion
so true records is worse whay isnt the best on autmn but like it’s better yhan most of summer for me
Why do you hate what happens after you
summer is honestly the worst weezer album for me
……..
blue like jazz is the only really memorable one for me
Yup, Winter is better than Autumn but worse than Summer for me.
It was pretty good.
8.5/10
i am listening to winter rn
how is it
iambic pentameter
not too crazy about the chorus
oo
basketball sounds okay
the one that got away
i like this 
im liking deep and dreamless sleep too
It’s the best hook on a Weezer album in a LONG while
hopefullt i warm up to it in the future
at the moment im pretty content with the last three songs
ranking the SZNZ projects as:
Autumn
Summer
Winter
Spring
although spring was the only one that actually sounded like spring 
One message removed from a suspended account.
what
maybe the most syllables in a weezer chorus in awhile
it's not bad though
Summer still the best SZN
its equal with winter for me
Iambic pentameter relatable 😍
winter is a bit better
The One That Got Away SWEEP
guys I like I really love sznz winter
Same 🦤‼️
this is sznz winter
oh oops
They love sznz winter
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Popular opinion: Winter in F
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No, that is wrong, I will fight you in court over this
Fight me you'll LOSE
Ok "Mixed Emotions" IF THAT'S EVEN YOUR REAL NAME. CHECKMATE.
laughs in confusion
I hate everything about this
I think it deserves at the very least least A but ill settle for that
I'm just kidding. F!
I’d say winter is a B
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Checkmate
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Yes in MINE
Watch this.
It is EPIIIIC and one of my favorite Weezer releases.
Tracks or the EPs?
Cus if EPs then (from worst to best)
-Spring
-Summer
-Autumn
-Winter
SZNZ track ranking I needa think abt more
I feel like each SZN got better than the last
Yeah, I think it's kinda boring looking back on it. Not bad, but I revisit its tracks less than the other three
putting whay in the last tier
I cry
why do people not like the sznz singles
I think they're fun songs
A Little Bit of Love is one of the best songs from the entire project
Records is catchy, has a solid hook and the refrain is so good
What Happens After You has a super suave verse and a ripping solo
And I Want A Dog is just really cool idk how to describe it more specifically
Holup let him cook
I don't rlly like the singles except for I Want A Dog
Nah What Happens is a real slapper
WHAY has a great post chorus
I feel like people just don't like the song cause it has an (admittedly) weak chorus
For Records I can understand the disdain a bit more bc it sounds like Weez by way of Maroon 5 to me LOL
But I like some modern Maroon 5 stuff so Records ain't that bad to me
It sounds like a car commercial
No, Records is the car commercial song lmfao
Then they're both car commercial songs
Either way I don't care much for either of them
Where in the... Three minutes and nineteen seconds of What Happens After You do you think "man, this would slap in a commercial for the new Hyundai XXXXL van with ultra all wheel drive and a built-in cup holder"
Records is the song you blare in the car with your girlfriends after a night of drinking, unless you're me and you don't have girlfriends.
I listen to it and think "This reminds me of a car commercial"
I mean I guess the solo would work in a car commercial
But that would be a pretty sick car commercial
Meh. If that's what you're into 
Like I said it doesn't rlly hit for me.
Idk what else you want me to say, dawg
Great, now every time I hear the solo I'm gonna imagine Rivers playing it atop a sexy car that's doing donuts
Like one of those red convertibles from the 80's
If you like the other stuff on the EPs better than the singles you are in my company so don't sweat it haha
I just ALSO like the singles a lot
Like, I don't hate the singles. Just think they're sorta lame and aside from maybe I Want A Dog they're my least favorite track on each SZN and the ones I normally hit skip on
Well I am a little tired of I Want A Dog, but that's mainly cus I listened to it so many times cus I was so excited for Winter
Winter is very Blue Album, even Weezer thinks so
A Little Bit of Love is a song I can just never get sick of fr, it just goes to so many different places and it feels like it tells a story
It's a song that really builds upon itself and has the same kind of positive charm I like from Green Day's 2021 songs.
Winter is the only SZN where I actively enjoy every song and see myself going back to each of them regularly moving forward
For me I don't think any of the SZNZ are like that unfortunately
But fortunately I can see myself going back to different tracks from them frequently
But I think that's pretty standard. I like the back half of White way more than the front for example.
I agree with you for the most part
Spring, Summer and Autumn definitely have their moments tho
I mean I just put every album on my phone on shuffle so
At first I was pretty disappointed with Spring but on repeat listens I developed stockholm syndrome started to enjoy it more
I like the part on Winter where Rivers goes "....Where youuuuu arrree GEORGE WASHINGTON HE TOOK COMAAAAAAND!!!!!!!!!!!....."
He is telling you that you are george
yeah a little bit of love isn't that bad looking back on it
though not the best on the album
it is a sznz single after all
We have the same rating I'm rejoicing
Winter is fire

Winter somehow gets better each listen
As someone who loved it at first listen
Yeah
I love every song on there it's crazy
THE ALBUM GOES SO HARD!
I’ve played it through like 3 times already
Best SZNZ
It’s annoying how Apple put all the other ones as albums and this one as a ep so u can’t see them all side by side
Well it’s 7 tracks and longer than some “albums” these days sooooo
Absolutely love it! Thank you
has anyone listened to all the sznz ep's in one sitting?
Me
if you put sznz winter in a good song order its way more replayable and good
I recommend the order played at the live show
i use sheraton basketball iambic dark dog away and dreamless
winter gives me a ok human vibe
it kinda sounds like weezer
yeah
Weezer overhyping records just for a song about a dog to compete with it is a funny thing

both are great
agreed
i love how sznz winter feels like a look backwards but also forwards with some of its orchestral instrumentation. it’s like a best of both type thing
A lot of the Winter songs remind me of a mix between OK Human and Blue
Agreed
yeah
yes
winter was kind of just average
it wasn't the best
or my favorite
I don't know why people like it so much
autumn is still the best sznz
with winter following behind
then summer
then spring
Summer is the best SZN.
disagree
disagree
spring was too poppy, summer was just mid, autumn was okay but sounded like it was being sang by some angsty teenager in a 2000s high school drama
why do you say that
All the songs besides what happens after you are massive massive Ws
actually that just reminded me
my friend who hates weezer listened to get off on the pain
and he said
if rivers cuomo wasnt singing it he would love it
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so i guess autumn W? lol


bro what did he do 😭
according to my friend, Rivers sounds like a choir boy
that sure is a reason
damn






Honestly fair. I've had a few other people tell me they don't really like his vocals, which I get. Though personally I love Rivers' singing voice.
Same, me like rivers :)
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i hate that we agree
it hurts me physically
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it's been a few days i still stand by

same
the best part of sznz winter is when they said its weezin time and weezed all over the place

Mine's

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Idk if I like summer or spring more


Aint no way bro
How is spring the best one 😭
Real
very agreeable
god I love autumn so much
I wish I could say I love Summer as much as Spring but something about Spring just makes me like it more than Summer
There's something about spring that makes me want to shove it into a mivrowavet
me too
just prefer it over the others, it makes me more happy than the others
hi
i agree with this
imo springs production is a lot better than summers, i really do love all the sznz though
oh yeah summers production reallyy tanks it imo
good songwriting , it just seems like a constant wall of sound
yeah for sure, if the production was better then it would be soo much better
i love the opposite of me
whats the good of being good has an insane guitar solo
yeaaa! the breakdown/bridge part where it slows down is insanely good
records always gets stuck in my head
you could say you got records in your head 
i dont even like it that much😭 its just so catchy
i do like it more than what happens after you tho
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overhated
meh
good
good
underrated
underproduced
underdeveloped
winter
take that back
summers and springs production is very weak especially in comparison to autumn and winter
i prefer summer over spring cause the songs themselves are stronger
but man i wish someone else produced summer
its solid but couldve been much better
silly robopop
No hate to robopop but maybe they should have gotten a producer more experienced with rock on the heavier album of SZNZ
i love autumn and winter and am glad to be part of the sznz era
but i cant help but think how it wouldve been if they waited a year and sinclair produced it all
dammit did panic! at the disco really have to steal sinclair away from weezer lmao
It was more of Crush’s decision I think
Yeah, Crush wanted Sinclair to work on P!ATD, so Weezer had to settle for other producers
I wonder, if Sinclair wasn’t taken away would records exist
Maybe, maybe not
Because it seemed like All this Love being put on spring was a late decision, especially with the SZNZ demo leak
All This Love was put on spring late into the production since Records wasn't written for a while
It wasn't really in the original batch of SZNZ songs
If rivers does the orchestra idea for SZNZ records going to sound like Grapes of Wrath
Fuck crush and panic tbh
Panic especially, Jake producing panic albums is a tragedy
Wasted talent on a shit “””band””” led by a shithead carried by a delusional fan base and label
I dislike Crush so much
weezer should just dive into baroque pop tbh
once more
fr
I honestly can't say which album is better
all weezer albums are the best albums ever
exept for pacific daydream
don't like it
Let's be honest, SZNZ overall was pretty average
ive seen a lot of mixed opinions on sznz
most of them are positive though
like id say
i dont like zeee zenz
65% enjoyed it in some way
20% think its eh or below average
and the rest hate it but they always hate weezer sooo
I enjoy SZNZ overall. I think Winter is the best by quite a bit tho. I think I've listened to some SZNZ Winter songs at least once every day since it dropped.
I really love Iambic Pentameter
yeah, only problem with it is the lack of a transition into the solo
winter felt kind of boring now they i tuink
i only like sheraton commanders beginning
iambic pentameter goes harder than anythin else on winter
im kinda just meh with sznz overall
To me, Winter was their best thing since OK Human
I kinda feel SZNZ kinda lacks the variety on an album
it is their most experimental project yet what 😭
I loved SZNZ
Say what you will about SZNZ, but the one thing it definitely doesn't lack is variety.
I was alluding more to the variety per SZNZ?
It's possible it's due to the short runtimes of each SZNZ
Or maybe I'm enjoying the parts that are similar across the songs of each album but not the attempts at differentiating each song from one another
i mean by like
the way they are differentiated in each sznz ep
the general mood definitely feels somewhat different everytime
with all the instrumental differences
and all the lyrical differences
bad
It was kind of forgettable when I first listened, but listening again I’d say it’s really good
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it was pretty cool, definitely better than autumn, not a masterpiece but not bad. overall it was meh average nothing extrordinary, though autumn was for me a complete failure
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Just curious, what other album does Winter sound like in you guys' opinions?
Summer
blue
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How so?
it's like
trying to be blue
but uncanny
harmónica and the type of melodies that are used
also just the way it sohnds
vocal training can be a powerful thing
ill say that it also reminds me of a more intense ok human
I was thinking that too
I WISH I COULD SAYY IT ALL TO YOU IN IAMBIC PENTAMETERRRRR
Yeah
He sounds pretty young
funny thing is that his voice sounds so fresh
hasn’t gotten any fucked up from singing so much
probably because not a lot of weezer songs need him to be that loud with it
now comparing that to brendon urie
which is like
you can definitely tell its gotten more raspy over the years
Mainly Iambic Pentameter and Basketball
...i guess???
Basketball i guess does have that high school punk-ish feel that summer does
White album
It has the same vibe
...does it tho
winter has the vibe of "life is terrible and i wanna escape from it and go back to heaven" while white is more just like a high school kid excited for his summer break
I was more talking about the way the songs were produced and the actual instrumentation
Agreed
It's def more like white
Winter is the most like blue sonically imo
I agree its like an uncanny version
I don't think it would be wrong to say EWBAITE and Winter are both attempts to add some elements from blue back into their songs
I love winter but I wish The One That got Away was the slower paced version
Still love the song tho
i feel like it's one of the few songs that actually doesn't suffer from that pace change
quick lil power pop song
i love
its cold
ytoshk
autumn is better
so true (real)
yas
Spring better.
Rivers really should've gotten a dog
Bad word 😱
Just woke up, here's a complete list of changes made
Woahhh
I didn't even realize that was from a year ago I just decided to type all that out 💀

