#40k-book-club | Darktide | Page 79

lime verge May 25, 2022, 2:03 AM

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At this point I'm gonna like....

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Just see where the hell they take this lmao

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:04 AM

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Same

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they already dropped big lore bombs

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we got 2 more books to go

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:04 AM

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on the siege?

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:04 AM

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Yep

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current one is the one with uh, Sangy defending Eternity Gate

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https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/818CSHwK6jL.jpg

lime verge May 25, 2022, 2:05 AM

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I already pre-ordered it. I'm at the "I'm curious" point and consider it a brain worm tax at this point

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:05 AM

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theres a release date for this one?

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:06 AM

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Uhhh

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let me check

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I only got an Amazon one

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This title will be released on September 13, 2022.

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:07 AM

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damn

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same day as darktide?

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not fair

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:07 AM

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This is an amazon page so im not sure how viable it is

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but it also isnt too wild of a guess either

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:08 AM

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that gives some perspective at least

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thx

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:09 AM

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fingerguns

lime verge May 25, 2022, 2:09 AM

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Whenever I preorder a book, they've been spot on tbh

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Pretty close to the date

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And if it changes, they usually email me

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:10 AM

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Yeeee we'll see

lime verge May 25, 2022, 2:11 AM

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We're gonna see sad angel dude get sadder

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:11 AM

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speaking of him

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i remember some mentions of the blood angels rage in some of siege books

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i thought that only started happening after angel boi got chaos bonked

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:13 AM

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Ah common misconception

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so the BA got the Red Thirst and the Black Rage

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the Red.T is the one they always had

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the Black Rage is the psychic flaw they got after Sanguinius got slapped

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:14 AM

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its a khorne curse or something like that right?

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:15 AM

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Nope, its just a rage curse they got from the massive psychic imprint of Sanguinius's death.

Its origin is "hotly debated" in the BA and their successors but the main point remains to be Sanguinius's death atm

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Khorne only wanted BA because of that

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so he was mostly just

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"Yo these guys rage a lot when they mess up, I want them."

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:15 AM

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damn

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:16 AM

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Yeah people mix them up a lot since they are almost literally the same thing

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The Red Thirst just has the vampirism thing of wanting to munch and drink the blood of the nearest living thing around them

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https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Red_Thirst

Red Thirst

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https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Black_Rage

Black Rage

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:16 AM

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thats so khorne tho

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:17 AM

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Lmao yeah

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Khorne demons tempt the BA a lot with it

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the whole spiel of "WE CAN CURE YOU OF THIS OR ENHANCE IT, JOIN US"

cedar citrus May 25, 2022, 2:17 AM

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The Blood Angels were considered an absolute failure legion before Sanguinius arrived

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:18 AM

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the thousand sons and emperors children too

cedar citrus May 25, 2022, 2:18 AM

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I forgot which book talked about that (i think it was the short story with angron being discovered)

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:18 AM

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Yeah this

cedar citrus May 25, 2022, 2:18 AM

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But they were like “yeah those dudes were totally fucking insane, like absolute murder lunatics”

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:18 AM

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Sanguinius basically "Pimp my Legion" up'd them overnight

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:18 AM

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lmao

cedar citrus May 25, 2022, 2:18 AM

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Thats why khorne and kabanda want them so much

frank magnet May 25, 2022, 2:19 AM

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The IX were literally a legion of maniacs who ate each other and their enemies, and were sent to the worst, least glorious war zones to try and tidy up

cedar citrus May 25, 2022, 2:19 AM

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Because they thought that legion was bought and sold

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And then a literal angel of christ comes along and is like “be chill my sons”

frank magnet May 25, 2022, 2:19 AM

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Then Sang shows up and like Dilara said, turned them into one of the most glorious and popular legions

cedar citrus May 25, 2022, 2:19 AM

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And they went chill

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Truly a based legion

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:20 AM

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very redpilled

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lmao

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even their visors are red

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what pll expected

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:21 AM

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Yeah the HH Blood Angels are really good

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the modern ones are just uh

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"OH NO WE GOTTA OVERCOME THE [insert legion flaw here] SUBPLOT"

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:21 AM

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i heard good stuff about the fall of baal

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but not much

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:21 AM

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Devastation of Baal is great i recommend it

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they obviously win and uh

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only nobody Successor Chapters get wiped out

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lmao

cedar citrus May 25, 2022, 2:22 AM

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Im glad the lamenters didnt show

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Or…..

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:22 AM

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They were the only Successors that didnt answer the call since they barely even had any men i think

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lul

cedar citrus May 25, 2022, 2:23 AM

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I like how dante was like “yeah i mean i figured that would happen”

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:23 AM

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yeah in the Dante™️ book the captains say they were unsurprised at the lamenters declining

oak pollen May 25, 2022, 2:24 AM

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thats likely a good thing

cedar citrus May 25, 2022, 2:24 AM

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The lamenters didnt even respond if i recall correctly

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:24 AM

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whats the name of that dracula looking mf

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with the big cape

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:24 AM

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Mephisto

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I MEAN

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Mephiston

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marvel dont sue me

oak pollen May 25, 2022, 2:24 AM

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LOL

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:24 AM

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yeaah

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lol

cedar citrus May 25, 2022, 2:24 AM

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SO yeah mephiston definitely summoned kabanda, right?

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:24 AM

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He tried

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it was so fucking stupid

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basically while the Baal fight was going on, he saw a vision with kabhanda

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so he was like

cedar citrus May 25, 2022, 2:25 AM

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I thought he was working towards that the whole book

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:25 AM

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"Yo my librarian dudes, we're gonna go to this cave right?"

cedar citrus May 25, 2022, 2:25 AM

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And he finally got it

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:25 AM

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"Then we make a circle, and summon kabhanda"

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yeah well uh

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the ritual fucks up

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the cave collapses

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and during the entire nid attack

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they are stuck there

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wa

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wa

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waaaa

cedar citrus May 25, 2022, 2:25 AM

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OOOF

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:25 AM

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LMAO

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:25 AM

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🎷

cedar citrus May 25, 2022, 2:25 AM

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thats what you get mephiston

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:26 AM

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Its hilarious

cedar citrus May 25, 2022, 2:26 AM

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Tryina fuck with chaos

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:26 AM

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He did a little oopsie

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:26 AM

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they really tried pulling a Kryptman on the nids

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:26 AM

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trapped a dozen librarians or so

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Also yep

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in their case they at least stood their ground somewhat

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but their sacrifice is whatever since they got replenished with Primaris anyway when Robot G came in with that clutch

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:27 AM

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lol

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and saved the open sewage of a planet thats baal

cedar citrus May 25, 2022, 2:28 AM

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Has anybody here ever read the Astorath book?

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:28 AM

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is it considered a death planet or nah?

cedar citrus May 25, 2022, 2:28 AM

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He's easily my favorite space marine unit

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:28 AM

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not yet

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:28 AM

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I have seen people talking about it but havent either

cedar citrus May 25, 2022, 2:28 AM

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velvet karma is it considered a death planet or nah?

ye

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:29 AM

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whats the name?

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:29 AM

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And yeha Baal is a death planet

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its basically just red deserts

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with giant scorpions

cedar citrus May 25, 2022, 2:29 AM

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Astorath: Angel of Mercy

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:29 AM

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and water that can kill you

cedar citrus May 25, 2022, 2:29 AM

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yeah the Dante book made me think

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"holy shit this planet fucking sucks, youd think they might try to make it a little more hospitable"

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:29 AM

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GULLIMAN SAYS THAT

cedar citrus May 25, 2022, 2:29 AM

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but that aint very imperium-like

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:29 AM

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its fucking great

cedar citrus May 25, 2022, 2:29 AM

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tbh

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:30 AM

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Yeah its what Robot G says

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and his point is great

cedar citrus May 25, 2022, 2:30 AM

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thats hilarious

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:30 AM

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"Why would people fight for this shithole"

cedar citrus May 25, 2022, 2:30 AM

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bcuz mah sangiunius feather

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:30 AM

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because for example Ultramar is a prosperous empire with thousands of people

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every Ultramarine would defend it to their last breath

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meanwhile Blood Angels

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:30 AM

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they need to keep it bad so they can recruit the badass pll

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:30 AM

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uhhh

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idk rocks

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and red sand

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also some tribal cavemen

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:30 AM

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velvet karma they need to keep it bad so they can recruit the badass pll

Thats the thing tho

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Space Marine recruitment is entirely uncessary

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that darwinistic aspect is complete pointless

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you can begin the brutal training once you take them onboard

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:31 AM

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i thik its supposed to be a culture thing

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:31 AM

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Yeah exactly

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Ultramarines ones for example are ones where you literally can sign up

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otherwise all the tribal bravado is pretty much just that, bravado

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:31 AM

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sing up your kid to be messed with

oak pollen May 25, 2022, 2:31 AM

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tall phoenix Space Marine recruitment is entirely uncessary

we need that grimderp tho 😛

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:32 AM

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TRU

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:32 AM

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velvet karma sing up your kid to be messed with

Shove some cables in his eye sockets

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:33 AM

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remember reading that they mind wiped tribes of pll so they could be placed in fenris to pump more space wolves during the heresy and keep the numbers

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that got a good laugh

oak pollen May 25, 2022, 2:33 AM

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hell wasnt there a point in one of the space wolf books where one of them brings up how pointless it is to keep the people of fenris in a medieval state?

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:33 AM

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oak pollen hell wasnt there a point in one of the space wolf books where one of them brings...

Yup

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as Trivia said its literally just a "culture" thing and nothing else

oak pollen May 25, 2022, 2:33 AM

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yup

frank magnet May 25, 2022, 2:34 AM

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A lot of Primarch worlds are purposely kept shitty places so the legions can recruit from them

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Since they need hardy young boys to survive the process

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Of course the Lion didn’t give a shit about Caliban, and that still upsets me

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It was turned into another Hive World even though literally no other Primarch’s world got the same treatment

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That rubs me as an early attempt to give the Fallen more of a reason to revolt

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:36 AM

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Caliban got exteminatus'ed right?

oak pollen May 25, 2022, 2:36 AM

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no iirc

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:37 AM

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frank magnet Since they need hardy young boys to survive the process

the age thing is kinda messy too

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sometimes they get 10 year olds

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other times people as old as 20 get in too

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and the companions to some primarchs got boosted too

oak pollen May 25, 2022, 2:38 AM

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Uther moment

frank magnet May 25, 2022, 2:38 AM

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Nope, Caliban’s forests were bulldozed, mines opened up, and castles and forest settlements turned into hive spires. It was destroyed by the battle fight between the Dark Angels and the Fallen, as well as demonic ritual

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:38 AM

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but not the astartes ascencion

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:38 AM

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frank magnet Nope, Caliban’s forests were bulldozed, mines opened up, and castles and forest ...

yeah thats right

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where the rock comes from

oak pollen May 25, 2022, 2:39 AM

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ah the rock. where the lion sleeps unknown to his sons who iirc literally stand right over him when on the bridge

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:39 AM

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I think hes like REALLY deep in the crust iirc?

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because the rock is literally half the chunk of a planet

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but DA arent my expertise

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https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/vX9HMdqmxrlR8psl.jpg

oak pollen May 25, 2022, 2:40 AM

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yeah its just the book paints it as the lion is right under baliel or whatever's feet lol

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:41 AM

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Lmao

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yeah its weird

oak pollen May 25, 2022, 2:41 AM

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but yeah he is somewhere deep in the rock and the only ones that know where he is are the watchers

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:41 AM

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those fucking Jawas

oak pollen May 25, 2022, 2:41 AM

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yup

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:42 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/swtor-star-wars-the-old-republic-jawa-gif-22461334

Tenor

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:42 AM

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i like to think the watchers in the dark are tickling the lions feet trying to wake him up

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:42 AM

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Watchers man half the Rock so its not out the question

oak pollen May 25, 2022, 2:43 AM

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i bet if they all just started chanting uteeny he would wake up just to shut them up

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:43 AM

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oak pollen i bet if they all just started chanting uteeny he would wake up just to shut the...

LMAO

frank magnet May 25, 2022, 2:43 AM

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The Lion has a Teddy Bear of Iron that he cuddles with, that’s what is keeping him asleep

high ridge May 25, 2022, 2:43 AM

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I like to thing the watchers are purposefully keeping the lion sedated so he doesn't wake up and realize how shit everything has gotten

oak pollen May 25, 2022, 2:43 AM

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that may be true lol

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:44 AM

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i bet they are tzeench daemons

oak pollen May 25, 2022, 2:44 AM

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they are just forest goblins

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:45 AM

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*space forest gretchins

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pls remain in the right universe

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:46 AM

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worse, they're Ewoks

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:46 AM

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oh no

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 2:46 AM

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any DA that got close to his sleeping chamber was eliminated by their traps

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https://tenor.com/view/wicket-ohh-my-failed-gif-13403312

Tenor

oak pollen May 25, 2022, 2:47 AM

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velvet karma *space forest gretchins

lol

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:49 AM

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tall phoenix any DA that got close to his sleeping chamber was eliminated by their traps

a good bayonet charge of 10.000 soldiers could have fixed that mess

frank magnet May 25, 2022, 2:49 AM

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Thing is nobody knows where it is, and even if they don’t know, you can bet the DA would never let 10000 soldiers just waltz into the Rock

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 2:50 AM

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not even their own iniates can

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much less mortals

oak pollen May 25, 2022, 2:51 AM

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didnt the inquisition get pissed at the DA for their "wasteful defense of a dead world (caliban)"

frank magnet May 25, 2022, 2:56 AM

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Not sure, but then it doesn’t take much to piss the Inquisition off

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 1:26 PM

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i am reading lorgars book

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and gav thorpe brought some interesting points to the childhood of a primarch

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often sped up

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there are any other books that go into that?

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their first experiences with their peoples

oak pollen May 25, 2022, 3:22 PM

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in lorgar's case his "people" where fucked up beyond all hell and that poor boy had the worst case of stockholm syndrome i have ever heard of

midnight wind May 25, 2022, 4:08 PM

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So I JUST started the Horus Heresy with Horus Rising and I tried to familiarize myself with as much lore and background as I could going in. However, I did not expect the first book to start where it started, I thought it would be before Horus went traitor. Or am I understanding the first chapter totally wrong here?

drowsy urchin May 25, 2022, 4:11 PM

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I can't recall the first chapter if the first book but there will be a good while before the turning traitor will happen

midnight wind May 25, 2022, 4:13 PM

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From what I'm reading, the first chapter begins with the Luna Wolves storming the palace of the "False Emperor" which is why I'm so lost.

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Because this sounds pretty heretical to me. Unless in this there is an actual second false Emperor that the Luna Wolves are dealing with? But they're talking about Astartes vs Astartes

drowsy urchin May 25, 2022, 4:18 PM

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ohh right it's the human faction that believes they're the real terra

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doesn't it get explained quite quickly

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it's there for massive foreshadowing

midnight wind May 25, 2022, 4:33 PM

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Ah ok good to know. Tbh I only read the first chapter and wanted to stop in case I was reading the wrong book. But this makes sooooo much more sense, so thank you!!

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 4:34 PM

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Yeah its mostly uh

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Abnett looking at you going

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"GET IT? ITS IRONIC"

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its suppose to be a tongue in cheek thing

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otherwise as Jerk says its just a random cut off human civilization acting like they got their own solar system

midnight wind May 25, 2022, 6:35 PM

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Yeah this adds up a lot now that I'm in the second chapter. I felt so unprepared there for a second

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 6:36 PM

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Yeah it can be a bit confusing at first since Abnett wanted to pull a "GOTTEM" on first readers

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but its pretty much just suppose to be an ironic wink at the eventual siege of Terra years later

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atm Horus just got freshly promoted as Warmaster

glacial thunder May 25, 2022, 6:58 PM

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Guys, I recently wanted to get into Eldar Books, but was advised against it because they apparently are only about them being abused as the punching bags of the galaxy

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Is this true?

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 6:59 PM

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Yes

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a lot

glacial thunder May 25, 2022, 6:59 PM

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Damn

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Can’t stand this trope

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I mean, it originated with Tolkien , but there it actually made sense both as a historical and theological necessity

sharp bobcat May 25, 2022, 7:00 PM

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F for eldar fans

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 7:00 PM

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glacial thunder I mean, it originated with Tolkien , but there it actually made sense both as a ...

My recommendation is reading Valedor and also the Path of the Dark Eldar series, that one is fucking amazing.

The Path of the Eldar books are all written by gav thorpe and the world building is great but you'll most likely get tired by the characters and the fact that they get their asses kicked because Thorpe has to ring the "dying race" trope every time a battle happens.

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Gav tries to copy the Tolkien tragedy thing but always fucks it up lmao

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Theres also the Rise of the Ynnari books but thats just 2 novels

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it got cancelled

glacial thunder May 25, 2022, 7:01 PM

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Tolkien is basically the only one who does this right because there it has a purpose

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 7:01 PM

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Yeah pretty much

glacial thunder May 25, 2022, 7:01 PM

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Everyone after him just took the superficial decline part and ignored the purpose and guidance part behind it

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 7:02 PM

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YEP

glacial thunder May 25, 2022, 7:02 PM

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Oh bohoo, dying race is dying, we so sad

glacial thunder May 25, 2022, 7:04 PM

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tall phoenix Theres also the Rise of the Ynnari books but thats just 2 novels

So is that storyline still Canon and just doesn’t get a conclusion?

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 7:04 PM

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Yeah its canon, just doesnt really go anywhere

glacial thunder May 25, 2022, 7:05 PM

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I really liked the SoB omnibus by swallow, anything like that which you guys can recommend

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 7:05 PM

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Its kind of down to what you want to read

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like faction + plot-wise

glacial thunder May 25, 2022, 7:10 PM

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I was also told anything about St Celestine is basically her being thrown into hopeless situations so chaos fans can have a ||hard-on when she gets her head bashed in|| so I‘ve been kinda reluctant to get into that as well

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 7:10 PM

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Lmao

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i mean kinda?

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Celestine has like 1 book with her as the main character

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theres also an audio drama with her and inquisitor katarina greyfax

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which is really good

glacial thunder May 25, 2022, 7:11 PM

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I mean, I really like the setting of 40K, but I‘ve yet to find anything which really is to my taste aside from the SoB books I‘ve read

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So I‘d be happy for any recommendations

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 7:13 PM

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The Gaunt books are usually the most "default" recommendations people give to newcomers but its kind of down to you

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the usual guide is picking which faction you like and kinda expanding from there

glacial thunder May 25, 2022, 7:14 PM

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Well, always been an Elfy fan, though like I said, can‘t stand the "woe is me" dying race bohoo trope

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So maybe the dark Eldar stuff

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 7:14 PM

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Yeah and Eldar books are almost non-existant

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 7:15 PM

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glacial thunder So maybe the dark Eldar stuff

Absolutely go for the trilogy

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its insanely good

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https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/510rio6X0TL.jpg

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One of the only physical GW books that I actually own lol

velvet karma May 25, 2022, 7:16 PM

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thats a veteran right there

glacial thunder May 25, 2022, 7:17 PM

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tall phoenix https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/510rio6X0TL.jpg

Lol sexy AF

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🤣

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 7:18 PM

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He hasnt had his breakfast yet

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😩

glacial thunder May 25, 2022, 7:19 PM

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Breakfast meaning torturing someone by disemboweling them with their own jaw?

cedar citrus May 25, 2022, 7:19 PM

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tall phoenix https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/510rio6X0TL.jpg

I love when eldar are depicted as actually alien looking

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Rather than just attractive humans with pointy ears

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 7:20 PM

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glacial thunder Breakfast meaning torturing someone by disemboweling them with their own jaw?

yes

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 7:20 PM

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cedar citrus Rather than just attractive humans with pointy ears

Eldar are always described as beautiful so beats me

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I dont like banana head eldar

cedar citrus May 25, 2022, 7:21 PM

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I think it was in that Black Legion book but they were like “that thing is so fucking disgusting looking”

glacial thunder May 25, 2022, 7:21 PM

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BTW, are there any books with the Morky and Gorky boys as protagonists?

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 7:21 PM

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Brutal Kunnin

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one of the few rare ork centric books

glacial thunder May 25, 2022, 7:21 PM

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Awesome

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 7:21 PM

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🙏

glacial thunder May 25, 2022, 7:22 PM

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One of the nice additions of WH is the Orks being their own agents rather than servants of an evil

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One of the "weaker" points of Tolkien IMO

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 7:23 PM

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Yeah Tolkien always wanted to fix that with the orks but never really got around to it

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guy was old as hell at the time

glacial thunder May 25, 2022, 7:23 PM

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Also I just Love the idea how ork machinery just works with no scientific reasoning behind it

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 7:23 PM

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Yeah its basically just psychic duct-tape

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Ducktape

glacial thunder May 25, 2022, 7:24 PM

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Engineering at its finest

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Recently read a theory that orks only poop because they saw a Human doing it and found it funny

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 7:25 PM

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Orks veer a line of being good but also being cringe due to the fandom

glacial thunder May 25, 2022, 7:25 PM

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A practice which spread until the race collectively forgot that they at some point did not poop

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Also that they‘re based on Norf FC

tall phoenix May 25, 2022, 7:26 PM

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Yeah their main inspiration is football hooligans

whole goblet May 25, 2022, 11:45 PM

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Love the ww1-ww2 german inspired equipment they typically have because the joke is that football hooligans have been linked to neo-nazism multiple times

desert carbon May 25, 2022, 11:47 PM

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ork art is glorious

whole goblet May 25, 2022, 11:47 PM

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broke: krieg is 40k germany (untrue)
Woke: orks are the literal wehrmacht (except smarter)

desert carbon May 25, 2022, 11:48 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/773270734809595904.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

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Dont tell the krieg fans or theyll mass migrate

whole goblet May 25, 2022, 11:49 PM

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They've even got the stick grenades

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you know who don't have stick grenades

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KRIEG GUARDSMEN.

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They have these french grenades

desert carbon May 25, 2022, 11:54 PM

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pineapples

oak pollen May 26, 2022, 12:45 AM

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hasnt it already been established that the korps is a mix of all the armies of ww1 astatically ?

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tall phoenix May 26, 2022, 12:47 AM

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Yeah but wehraboos will wehr-and-boo

oak pollen May 26, 2022, 12:47 AM

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im still never gona let yall live it down that you tied to say their helmets where purely french tho

tall phoenix May 26, 2022, 12:48 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/aaaaaa-screaming-letter-a-gif-15483247

Tenor

oak pollen May 26, 2022, 12:53 AM

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whole goblet They have these french grenades

i thought they just used the standard frag grenades which tbf a 40k frag is just a boxy pineapple

whole goblet May 26, 2022, 12:59 AM

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Look at the sergeant's belt

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It's more f1-shaped than the typical 40k frags

oak pollen May 26, 2022, 1:00 AM

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yeah your right

frank magnet May 26, 2022, 1:08 AM

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But hey, no medals!

oak pollen May 26, 2022, 1:10 AM

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lol btw i dont get why the steel legion commissars still use the very prussian helmets even tho the new look is very much american

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i guess GW just couldnt be assed to update them along with the rest of the regiment lol

lime verge May 26, 2022, 1:26 AM

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oak pollen i guess GW just couldnt be assed to update them along with the rest of the regim...

https://tenor.com/view/assholes-not-original-poser-plagiarism-gif-6162884

Tenor

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To be fair a lot of stuff is just... a mishmash of ideas

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Mix of armor types withthe krigers

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And steel legion

oak pollen May 26, 2022, 1:27 AM

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yeah

lime verge May 26, 2022, 1:27 AM

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Orks a mix of soccer hooligans and .... football hooligans

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And eldar are just a mix of elves... and space

oak pollen May 26, 2022, 1:28 AM

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thats the same thing lol. soccer is football in the UK.. and most of the rest of the world lol

lime verge May 26, 2022, 1:28 AM

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True, but in the u.s. they refuse to call it hand egg no matter how hard i try

oak pollen May 26, 2022, 1:30 AM

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originally american football used a rugby ball but that was simply not good for throwing

lime verge May 26, 2022, 1:30 AM

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Maaan. Take me to the alternate universe where rugby stayed popular...

oak pollen May 26, 2022, 1:30 AM

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lol

honest gust May 26, 2022, 2:58 AM

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whole goblet They have these french grenades

Krieg also have similar uniforms to french (ww1?) Soldiers

oak pollen May 26, 2022, 3:01 AM

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yeah french coats with german helmets

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and yes their entire aesthetic is ww1

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its the steel legion that is the ww2 aesthetic

desert carbon May 26, 2022, 7:34 AM

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Warhammer ingenuity

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Its either kinda smart or just... + space

desert carbon May 26, 2022, 2:00 PM

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@tall phoenix confirm

tall phoenix May 26, 2022, 2:05 PM

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Lmao

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is this from jetblackraider's tweet

desert carbon May 26, 2022, 2:06 PM

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I think so yes

tall phoenix May 26, 2022, 2:06 PM

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Yes can confirm it is what happens

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in the end her daughter dies in a raid and the guy is in so much anguish that the lady archon actually accepts him as a husband since his pain is so great and she can feed off him lol

desert carbon May 26, 2022, 2:27 PM

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lul

agile hedge May 26, 2022, 2:38 PM

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Damn, seems like even Drukhari can live their children to that point and not be grimderp about it

light sparrow May 26, 2022, 5:54 PM

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tall phoenix in the end her daughter dies in a raid and the guy is in so much anguish that th...

Thats fuvkin hilarious im sorry

tall phoenix May 26, 2022, 5:55 PM

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it is lmao

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she says it to his fucking face too

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DOESNT EVEN HIDE IT

light sparrow May 26, 2022, 5:55 PM

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Just dark eldar things

lime verge May 26, 2022, 6:29 PM

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Whyd i suddenly think of linkdn people posting stories about their kids lmao

honest gust May 26, 2022, 8:55 PM

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Picked this up

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Dont have the first 3 books, dunno if i should read this

dreamy ledge May 26, 2022, 9:21 PM

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ight imma listen to the first heretic audiobook

tall phoenix May 26, 2022, 9:21 PM

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Best of luck Eyes

tall phoenix May 26, 2022, 9:21 PM

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honest gust Picked this up

You should be fine

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at worst if you get confused just ask here lmao

honest gust May 26, 2022, 9:26 PM

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Fair

drowsy urchin May 26, 2022, 9:29 PM

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I just finished Titanicus, what should I go for next

tall phoenix May 26, 2022, 9:29 PM

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Forges of Maaaars

drowsy urchin May 26, 2022, 9:31 PM

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does it have an audiobook

drowsy urchin May 26, 2022, 9:53 PM

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suppose you didn't mean these two

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I'm not that big into adeptus mechanicus, could I still enjoy these?

dreamy ledge May 26, 2022, 9:57 PM

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tall phoenix Best of luck <:Eyes:650032376734416975>

yeee, i really liked daemons adn word bearers seem right up my alley so iwanna liek them even more

tall phoenix May 26, 2022, 9:58 PM

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drowsy urchin I'm not *that* big into adeptus mechanicus, could I still enjoy these?

I'd absolutely say so

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they are a really fun read and great insight into forge-worlds and admech

drowsy urchin May 26, 2022, 9:59 PM

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suppose Priests is the first one

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audible works like ASS

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the store is busted to hell

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buut I was also thinking of Spears of the Emperor because Arbitor Ian made a book club episode of it and I'd like to go through the book before watching it

tall phoenix May 26, 2022, 10:02 PM

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Spears of the Emperor is also really good yeah

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so its your choice really

strong parcel May 26, 2022, 11:30 PM

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good news, found my copy of Dan Abnett's Thunder & Steel omnibus

midnight wind May 27, 2022, 1:42 AM

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I need opinions, out of the Crimson fist omnibus and the Nightl Lords Omnibus, what do you recommend?

honest gust May 27, 2022, 1:46 AM

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tall phoenix Forges of Maaaars

This^

honest gust May 27, 2022, 1:48 AM

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drowsy urchin I'm not *that* big into adeptus mechanicus, could I still enjoy these?

Also has a prominent rogue trader character, black templars, has some aeldari, a bondsman, and a thing i cant say because it's so fucking cool that it's a character and i wont spoil it

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Also some cadians

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And if you like drawing enviornments/worlds/space stuff you'll get some inspiration from this book series

lime verge May 27, 2022, 4:06 AM

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@tall phoenix dilly you always got good book recs. What would you recommend to get the creative juices going 40k or fantasywise?

tall phoenix May 27, 2022, 4:10 AM

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lime verge <@166943308231344128> dilly you always got good book recs. What would you recomm...

Depends

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what mood are you in at currently

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40k or fantasy?

lime verge May 27, 2022, 4:32 AM

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tall phoenix 40k or fantasy?

Either my dude. I just... need to find my creative mojo for painting lmao

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But uhh... lets go Fantasy?

tall phoenix May 27, 2022, 4:35 AM

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lime verge But uhh... lets go Fantasy?

Then the Gotrek and Felix books it is 👀

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if you want something different than them though theres also always the Tyrion and Teclis books

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https://shadowhawksshade.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/tyrionteclis.jpg

oak pollen May 27, 2022, 4:36 AM

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so is Tyrion in AOS or is it just captain T pose?

tall phoenix May 27, 2022, 4:36 AM

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He is in AOS yes

midnight wind May 27, 2022, 4:47 AM

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In AoS they're gods, right? I was always confused by that because my main knowledge is from Warhammer Total War and they don't seem like gods there

tall phoenix May 27, 2022, 4:49 AM

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Yeah in fantasy they are just regular elves

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In AOS they basically get "ascended" to god hood

frigid kettle May 27, 2022, 4:56 AM

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I gotta say, if there is any major, valid criticism of the Elves/Aeldari

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Their hats suck

tall phoenix May 27, 2022, 4:58 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/the-big-lebowski-thats-like-your-opinion-man-gif-15076479

Tenor

frigid kettle May 27, 2022, 4:59 AM

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My opinion is objectively correct as the Man Emperor has fostered it within me

tall phoenix May 27, 2022, 5:01 AM

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why

oak pollen May 27, 2022, 5:01 AM

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lol

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how can you not love comically large pointy hats?

tall phoenix May 27, 2022, 5:05 AM

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very phallic too

lime verge May 27, 2022, 5:14 AM

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👀

oak pollen May 27, 2022, 5:19 AM

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lol

frigid kettle May 27, 2022, 6:34 AM

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oak pollen how can you not love comically large pointy hats?

They look more like bananas than the fucking Custodes

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I cannot look at them and tell myself Aeldari should be taken seriously

oak pollen May 27, 2022, 6:35 AM

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lol

dusty dagger May 27, 2022, 11:42 AM

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I like their design

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Specially in 40k

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Very alien and unique

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Very elvish as well

covert aspen May 27, 2022, 3:43 PM

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drowsy urchin I'm not *that* big into adeptus mechanicus, could I still enjoy these?

I don't know if you will but I 100% would 👀

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I'm also finishing the dark eldar books and they are honestly fantastic. It is the first actual literature I read on warhammer and considering what to go for next.

tall phoenix May 27, 2022, 3:47 PM

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the path of the dark eldar is amazing yeah

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they were my first 40k books

glacial thunder May 27, 2022, 4:37 PM

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oak pollen how can you not love comically large pointy hats?

Historical Macedonian kingdom agrees

covert aspen May 27, 2022, 5:16 PM

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I also got a bundle that was cheap on humble bundle a few months ago with a lot of titles and honestly can't decide which to pick of those

drowsy urchin May 28, 2022, 9:50 AM

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https://youtu.be/qlic_Q_LC-0

YouTube

Arbitor Ian

The INFINITE & the DIVINE with ROBERT RATH!! | 40k Book Club

Interview time! We're back to go through the mammoth Infinite and the Divine and ALSO talk to special guest - ROBERT RATH! It's our first ever author interview, hope you enjoy!

Assassinorum: Kingmaker: https://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/novels/assassinorum-kingmaker-ebook-eng-2022.html

New Intro Art by @KCP FARGO !!

00.00 - Intro
02...

▶ Play video

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Been waiting for this and they got Robert Rath to join as well!

steep niche May 29, 2022, 11:30 AM

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Oh yes I still have to get my hands on that book. I have heard that it´s a good read and very funny too.

drowsy urchin May 29, 2022, 11:37 AM

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It is!

random marlin May 29, 2022, 12:41 PM

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I end up reading books in order to watch Arbitor Ian's video reviews. Spear of the Emperor was good! Guess I'll have to read the Infinite & the Divine when I get the chance.

The silly part of 40k isn't what draws me to it, but it's still nice, Brutal Kunnin' for instance was very fun.

mellow knot May 29, 2022, 12:50 PM

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It's nice that humour slides in. The 41st millennium may be a gigantic suck-fest for the people who live in it, but even people living in the darkest of times are allowed to have humour coping mechanisms.

random marlin May 29, 2022, 3:00 PM

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Yes, I agree. And it makes for relatable characters too.

viral flicker May 29, 2022, 11:39 PM

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All hail 40k YouTubers. Now I don’t actually have to read new 40k books

desert carbon May 30, 2022, 12:23 AM

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i wont hail all of them

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just some

urban tide May 30, 2022, 12:39 AM

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sorry for the shocking angle but picked these up yesterday

tall phoenix May 30, 2022, 12:44 AM

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really good purchases 👀

urban tide May 30, 2022, 12:45 AM

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hope so $86 dollars

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and i also was going to get some of the space wolves books but stopped myself

toxic nebula May 30, 2022, 12:47 AM

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urban tide sorry for the shocking angle but picked these up yesterday

Hope you enjoy them

urban tide May 30, 2022, 12:48 AM

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i wanted to read them to get a feel for dan as a writer but everyone has nice things to say about them

toxic nebula May 30, 2022, 12:48 AM

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Ghosts feels... strange to read iirc? its good but it definetly feels like an early work, getting a feel for the setting

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Xenos is a very cool look at just, random sections of the setting through the eyes of an inquisitor in a crime drama effectivley

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both are pretty great

urban tide May 30, 2022, 12:49 AM

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the one i have has dan's thoughts about how he made the book xenos

toxic nebula May 30, 2022, 12:50 AM

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oh cool

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do you have uhh

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the bit from first and only thats his thoughts on writting the book?

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because its honestly great

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(first and only is the first book in the founding i think?

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i'm afraid i don't read upside down

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lul

urban tide May 30, 2022, 12:51 AM

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wait let me get a better photo hahahaha

glass sparrow May 30, 2022, 12:51 AM

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first book in the ghost series is definitely Dan trying to get a feel for how he wants characters set up for the series. Ghostmaker and onward is very consistent in terms of character personality.

urban tide May 30, 2022, 12:51 AM

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the red is his thoughts

toxic nebula May 30, 2022, 12:53 AM

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niiice

urban tide May 30, 2022, 12:53 AM

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on almost every page

toxic nebula May 30, 2022, 12:53 AM

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my fav one of his notes is from first and only, a little blurb at the start is the only notation in the book

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and its just him explaining it was called first and only because he expected it to be the first, and only, book he would publish with GW because he didn't expect it to go well

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lul

urban tide May 30, 2022, 12:54 AM

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hahahah

lunar sorrel May 30, 2022, 12:58 AM

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I have like 4 40k books and i'd trade them im for a IG primer in an instant

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The primer never let me down

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There are no commisars fist fighting daemons in the primer

fallow rock May 30, 2022, 1:37 AM

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Im thinking of either listening to twice dead king reign or brutal kunnin, any advice?

tall phoenix May 30, 2022, 1:38 AM

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If you want to be depressed with a few hints of comedy go for Twice Dead King, its really universally praised atm even as a xenos book

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but if you want a closer look at the admech with some good portion of ork comedy go for Kunnin'

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they are both good books but Twice Dead King kind of ranks up higher

fallow rock May 30, 2022, 1:40 AM

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Ive already heard a bit from ruin so i dont know how much im skipping for reign. Like i know most of the spoilers for ruin.

tall phoenix May 30, 2022, 1:41 AM

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Yeah in that case you shouldnt be too lost

fallow rock May 30, 2022, 1:41 AM

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Not shure how much of a tone shift reign is

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Im also a bit worried since i was spoiled by the infinite and the divine that it wont live up to it

tall phoenix May 30, 2022, 1:44 AM

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Honestly its a great book and matches it perfectly

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its more that the tones are a lot more different

tender yoke May 30, 2022, 3:50 AM

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urban tide

Really good choices! Dan Abnett's Gaunt's Ghosts was my entry into 40k.

urban tide May 30, 2022, 3:51 AM

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im loving it atm

tender yoke May 30, 2022, 3:52 AM

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The Twice Dead King was a fun audiobook experience too. Was a refreshing change of tone with Necrons. I wasn't sure how well the heartless machines would translate to likeable characters but they certainly managed to achieve it.

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I wish I could read that book for the first time again.

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Yarrick and Ciaphas Cain series are right up there with the Gaunts Ghosts series.

lime verge May 30, 2022, 7:40 AM

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tender yoke Really good choices! Dan Abnett's Gaunt's Ghosts was my entry into 40k.

tall phoenix May 30, 2022, 7:41 AM

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why

glass sparrow May 30, 2022, 11:43 AM

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I need to restart the Volpone Blue Bloods book, I stopped listening to it due to a new cain or ghost book that came out and now I can't remember what was even happening in the Blue Bloods story lol.

random marlin May 30, 2022, 11:44 AM

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I started reading it a few days ago. I find it great for the moment! The characters feel real, and the description of the military operations (and the scheming that goes with it) are much better than in the latest Guard books I read.

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And, at last, the Volpone can have their glory without these pesky Gaunt's Ghosts stealing their thunder!

forest estuary May 30, 2022, 4:57 PM

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Are the Volpone books worth reading? Never read them before.

glass sparrow May 30, 2022, 6:24 PM

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If you like the Sabbat crusade then yes I suppose.

tender yoke May 30, 2022, 7:19 PM

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The latest Ciaphas Cain novel is off to a good start. Keeps up the haughty humor I expected.

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Cain and Amberly shitting on Sullah never gets old.

fresh gazelle May 30, 2022, 7:38 PM

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lime verge

i started reading it a couple days ago loving it

leaden ibex May 30, 2022, 7:39 PM

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Finished know no fear . Really good book

random marlin May 30, 2022, 7:39 PM

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forest estuary Are the Volpone books worth reading? Never read them before.

Are there several Volpone books? Thought Volpone Glory was the only one.

tall phoenix May 30, 2022, 7:40 PM

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leaden ibex Finished know no fear . Really good book

THE book that saved the Ultramarines as characters in the Heresy

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its so good

leaden ibex May 30, 2022, 7:46 PM

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I really did like how it delved into what it actually means to not feel fear

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And how it cuts off a basic humanity

lapis flicker May 30, 2022, 11:00 PM

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Gaunt's Ghosts are such an amazing series - skyrocketed Dan to the top of my favourite writer's list. The second omnibus was the first series I read in English as practice - reread them every few years and I keep discovering new titbits heh ^^.

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Necropolis is probably my all-time favourite of the bunch, although the newer titles come really close to that. It is real fun seeing a writer improve and change their style over the decades ^^

fresh gazelle May 30, 2022, 11:07 PM

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tall phoenix THE book that saved the Ultramarines as characters in the Heresy

explain

tall phoenix May 30, 2022, 11:27 PM

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fresh gazelle explain

Basically during the run of the HH book the Ultras practically had no character and were goody-two-shoe marines with not enough personality.

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Know No Fear being written by Abnett of all people extremely humanized them and made them a lovable legion.

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the worst part is this book covers the betrayal of the Word Bearers during a joint operation with the Ultras, so Roboute is ultra-chad'er in it and pissed off as fuck

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https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71GQE6Re1WL.jpg

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The cover literally has him in Zero-G punching word-bearers in SPACE

fresh gazelle May 30, 2022, 11:29 PM

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noice

azure dirge May 30, 2022, 11:32 PM

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how can marines survive in space again

sick isle May 30, 2022, 11:34 PM

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They are so badass they can breath in the vacuum of space.

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Jk I have no clue

tall phoenix May 30, 2022, 11:36 PM

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azure dirge how can marines survive in space again

In Roboute's case hes superhuman

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in Marine's case as long as they got a helmet they are fine

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their armor/suit is sealed normally

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Guilliman pushes Thiel aside and propels himself towards the Word Bearers. His armored feet bite into the hullskin as he gains traction. He seems vast, like a titan. Not an engine of Mars. A titan of myth.

His head is bare. Impossible. His skin is bleached with cold. His mouth opens in a silent scream as he smashes into them.

He kills one. He crushes the legionary's head into his chest with the base of his fist. Globules of blood squirt sideways, jiggling and jostling. The body topples back in slow motion.

Guilliman turns, finds another, punches his giant fist through the legionary's torso, and pulls it out, ripping out his backbone. A third comes, eager for the glory of killing a primarch. Thiel guns him apart with his reloaded boltgun, two-handed brace, feet anchored.

The fourth storms in.

Guilliman twists and punches his head off. Clean off. Head and helm as one, tumbling away like a ball, trailing beads of blood.

Cover fire comes across. Another kill squad finally reaches the hull section. A fierce, silent bolter battle licks back and forth across a heat exchanger canyon. Struck bodies, leaking fluid shapes, rotate away into the freezing darkness.

Thiel triangulates his position. He signals to the bridge to open the Port 88 airgate.

He looks at Guilliman. He gestures to the airgate.

The primarch wants to fight. Thiel knows that look. That need. Guilliman wants to keep fighting. There's blood around him like red petals, and he wants to add to it.

It's time to stop this fight, however, and fight the one that matters.

lime verge May 30, 2022, 11:41 PM

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I should probably read that book at some point lmao

tall phoenix May 30, 2022, 11:41 PM

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Its REALLY good, absolutely recommend it

lime verge May 30, 2022, 11:48 PM

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Horus Heresy Kindle edition is 360 dollars lmao

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That enough for me to turn around and walk away

tall phoenix May 30, 2022, 11:49 PM

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jesus lmao

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and this is why I just acquire them Legally™️

lime verge May 30, 2022, 11:49 PM

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I think I stopped with physical books at The Flight of the Eisenstein, and just stopped until the Siege of Terra books

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Oh, And I got Mechanicum haha

leaden ibex May 30, 2022, 11:51 PM

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also Aeonid Thiel is a really good character

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probably the most practical ultramarine ever written

lime verge May 30, 2022, 11:54 PM

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There was a dude that did tactical marines, and man... if that isn't my jam lmao

velvet karma May 31, 2022, 1:26 AM

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tall phoenix and this is why I just acquire them Legally™️

as do all of us

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we must feed Games Workshop

tall phoenix May 31, 2022, 1:28 AM

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🙏

velvet karma May 31, 2022, 1:29 AM

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something i had i mind recently

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there are any audiobooks with actors for each characters?

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most of the them do a wonderful job

magic sable May 31, 2022, 1:30 AM

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there's a few audio dramas with separate voice actors for each character

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idk about just audiobooks though

velvet karma May 31, 2022, 1:31 AM

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some of the latest ones from the siege of terra have some snippets

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i just remember the sister of silence inner thoughts in Mortis i think]

magic sable May 31, 2022, 1:33 AM

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Watcher in the Rain is the only audio drama i've listened to but it's pretty good

velvet karma May 31, 2022, 1:33 AM

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i have yet to check this one out

magic sable May 31, 2022, 1:34 AM

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if you like Inquisition stuff you'll dig it. Gives a little view into both the Inquisition and the Administratum

velvet karma May 31, 2022, 1:35 AM

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nnot much but might be interesting cosidering the plot for darktide

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might have some related stuff

magic sable May 31, 2022, 1:36 AM

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Def aligns with the vibe of Darktide a bit. Don't wanna give too much away though lol

velvet karma May 31, 2022, 1:36 AM

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its allright lel

tall phoenix May 31, 2022, 1:47 AM

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velvet karma there are any audiobooks with actors for each characters?

What Mosin said

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audio dramas are basically just voice-acted movies

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theres a few but not as many as audio books for warhammer stuff i think

velvet karma May 31, 2022, 1:48 AM

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im surprised how they went with original stuff for the animations on warhammer+

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instead of the well written and established from the black library

tender yoke May 31, 2022, 2:10 AM

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sick isle They are so badass they can breath in the vacuum of space.

The Mucranoid can also allow Space Marines to survive in vacuum.

sick isle May 31, 2022, 2:11 AM

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that's real I was just joking

tender yoke May 31, 2022, 2:11 AM

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https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Mucranoid

Warhammer 40k Wiki

Mucranoid

The Mucranoid, also called the Weaver, is the 16th of the 19 gene-seed organs implanted within an adolescent Space Marine Neophyte to create a new Astartes. This organ is implanted within the central nervous system and responds to specific chemical stimuli in the environment, causing the Space Marine to secrete a waxy protein substance similar t...

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Its also how space marines make candles.

lunar sorrel May 31, 2022, 2:28 AM

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This organ is implanted within the central nervous system and responds to specific chemical stimuli in the environment, causing the Space Marine to secrete a waxy protein substance similar to mucus through his pores that seals his skin.
The gland's operations must first be activated by an external chemical treatment, usually self-administered, before it will activate

Bruh why not just give them a tube of this thing for space missions to smear on their faces instead of having them fucking grow this nasty shit?

They gotta use a knick knack for the process to even start so it even further makes it seem pointless lol

tall phoenix May 31, 2022, 2:28 AM

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Okay so

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this is one case where you are entirely correct

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since space marine organs are almost all fucking stupid lmao

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its important to remember they'll never use half of these and it was written by english dudes in a pub who added what sounded cool at the time

lunar sorrel May 31, 2022, 2:30 AM

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This organ was 100% specifically made for greasy skin neckbeards to "LITERALLY ME" at space marines

tall phoenix May 31, 2022, 2:30 AM

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LOL

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Yeah if you got nothing to do read the other organs

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like how marines can spit acid when realistically speaking that saliva would melt 80% of their mouth when not in use

lunar sorrel May 31, 2022, 2:31 AM

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Muh fused ribcage

tall phoenix May 31, 2022, 2:31 AM

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GOD

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the fused-ribcage im glad exists since its one point nobody can defend

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its literally just "Uhhhh what if your ribs were full bone? That would make you un-shankable"

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gigabrain

lunar sorrel May 31, 2022, 2:33 AM

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I have seen many attempts at "akshually'ing" this from it being actually plates of bone armor that are layed ontop of eachother to making the chest rubbery and strechable yet somehow bulletproof

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I never showed mercy to these apologists

tall phoenix May 31, 2022, 2:34 AM

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Yeah dont

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I understand attempting to defend some of the organs but the ribcage is just un-defendable

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lol

tender yoke May 31, 2022, 2:39 AM

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I agree its stupid you have to prepare the Mucranoid but iirc from the books it doesn't make it activate immediately. Just primes it to trigger when needed, ie vacuum.

glass sparrow May 31, 2022, 3:04 AM

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velvet karma there are any audiobooks with actors for each characters?

Lords of Fenris and the Traitor and the Alien are two audio dramas that have multiple voice actors for their stories

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but these are both audio drama collections

tender yoke May 31, 2022, 3:05 AM

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velvet karma there are any audiobooks with actors for each characters?

The Ciaphas Cain novels do too. For the major characters at least.

glass sparrow May 31, 2022, 3:07 AM

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well, it's mainly Amberly cutting in to provide context or to insert other sources of information.

tender yoke May 31, 2022, 3:13 AM

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Book 8: Narrated by Stephen Perring, Penelope Rawlins, Emma Gregory, Toby Longworth, Andrew James Spooner.

glass sparrow May 31, 2022, 3:15 AM

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that's pretty much every book though, Stephen Perring narrates the majority of the book, and the rest narrate skits in between chapters to provide more information related to the story.

tender yoke May 31, 2022, 3:16 AM

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Its still multiple narrators though.

glass sparrow May 31, 2022, 3:16 AM

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fair.

tender yoke May 31, 2022, 3:16 AM

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But I concede your point, isn't exactly what op was asking.

glass sparrow May 31, 2022, 3:17 AM

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technically both answers work.

tender yoke May 31, 2022, 3:17 AM

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And technicality is all that matters!

wet portal May 31, 2022, 4:20 PM

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Which book should I start with both as a general 40K fan and a lover of al things Space Wolves?

visual moss May 31, 2022, 4:35 PM

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Wolftime I guess? IDK my only exposure to 40k novels is Bellisarius Cawl: The Great Work and The Infinite and the Divine.

vague basin May 31, 2022, 4:36 PM

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wet portal Which book should I start with both as a general 40K fan and a lover of al thing...

eisenhorn is always a great place to start as someone who has no experience with books, but i'm not a wolves fan so i can't help you there.

lime tinsel May 31, 2022, 5:02 PM

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wet portal Which book should I start with both as a general 40K fan and a lover of al thing...

The Spacewolf Omnibus is a great read

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and then follow it up with the ragnar omnibus

wet portal May 31, 2022, 5:02 PM

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So, Eisenhorn, Space Wolf Omnibus, Ragnar Omnibus... Anything else?

lime tinsel May 31, 2022, 5:03 PM

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if you gonna read eisenhorn you gotta follow it up with the Ravenor omnibus

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for a casual read the caphias cane books are really fun

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Ciaphas*

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and then once you are sufficiently hooked, its time to start the Horus Heresy

glass sparrow May 31, 2022, 5:05 PM

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down to earth more with more grit and somber tones try out the Gaunts Ghost series.

lime tinsel May 31, 2022, 5:05 PM

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ive heard those are great from everyone i know thats read them, i need to get around to reading them myself

glass sparrow May 31, 2022, 5:05 PM

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... I am trying to see if I actually have a non Audio Drama Space Wolves story in my audible library besides Prospero Burns

lime tinsel May 31, 2022, 5:06 PM

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prospero burns was the only HH book i skipped

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i eventually got aroudn to it but after the apex pinnacle that was the Thousands Sons book i didnt want a repeat

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the same story.

tender yoke May 31, 2022, 5:07 PM

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The Horus Heresy books are overrated.

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Fight me.

sick isle May 31, 2022, 5:08 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/warhammer40k-power-claws-horus-heresy-gif-25203025

Tenor

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Tell that to the big guy

glass sparrow May 31, 2022, 5:09 PM

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I wouldn't say it is the exact same story, but I can see why you'd see it like that. I view it more along the lines of giving a good insight on what the Wolves actually are, rather than the bumbling team killing barbarians they are portrayed as.

lime tinsel May 31, 2022, 5:10 PM

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yea agreed, when i did get around to it, i wish i hadnt skipped it initially

glass sparrow May 31, 2022, 5:10 PM

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and it is a good example of Space Wolves being eternally doomed story wise, because god forbid the Wolves are ever portrayed as Intelligent

lime tinsel May 31, 2022, 5:10 PM

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and the HH books can be a little flat (at times) but ultimately they are just so juicy for lore to fill the background it just enriches all the other modern 40k books for me

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its worth

glass sparrow May 31, 2022, 5:11 PM

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there are gems in the HH, but there is a lot of shit you got to look out for.

grave vine May 31, 2022, 5:11 PM

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I think I have the book

glass sparrow May 31, 2022, 5:11 PM

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White Scars books and anything involving Jhagatai is always a treat to listen to

lime tinsel May 31, 2022, 5:12 PM

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i havent gotten far enough into HH to get the white scars stuff. lookin forward to it though.

glass sparrow May 31, 2022, 5:13 PM

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Jhagatai is a sassy mother fucker that's for sure. He is not afraid of hitting someone with a clapback response.

whole goblet May 31, 2022, 5:42 PM

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tender yoke The Horus Heresy books are overrated.

Correct

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Just pick and choose from the good ones and abandon the rest, like any other 40k media

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since most of it is trash

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The hh black books are p good tho

hearty niche May 31, 2022, 5:55 PM

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whole goblet The hh black books are p good tho

Black books?

whole goblet May 31, 2022, 5:56 PM

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The big black books

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The T O M E S

hearty niche May 31, 2022, 5:56 PM

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OHHH the Forge World books

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I was confused lol

whole goblet May 31, 2022, 5:56 PM

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Very good

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Imperial armour but for hh

hearty niche May 31, 2022, 5:59 PM

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Yeah I might need to get those

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I collected the whole novel set last year and I'm as far as having finished Path of Heaven

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The Guilliman primarch book is next but I need to finish Eisenhorn for the time being

velvet karma May 31, 2022, 8:20 PM

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hey which book of the HH cover the signus prime mess

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with blood angels and kabanda

glass sparrow May 31, 2022, 8:30 PM

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velvet karma hey which book of the HH cover the signus prime mess

Fear to Tread

velvet karma May 31, 2022, 8:31 PM

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yess thx

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i read it like

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years ago

magic sable May 31, 2022, 11:22 PM

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Anyone listened to the Dark Imperium audiobooks?

tender yoke Jun 1, 2022, 3:01 AM

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magic sable Anyone listened to the Dark Imperium audiobooks?

I listened to the first one and some of the second before losing interest.

strong parcel Jun 1, 2022, 10:25 AM

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Weird question, does anybody remember the guard regiment that Gaunt's Ghosts fight? Started with a J iirc

sweet slate Jun 1, 2022, 10:29 AM

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Jantine patricians

strong parcel Jun 1, 2022, 10:29 AM

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saint, you are

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thanks

magic sable Jun 1, 2022, 11:53 AM

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tender yoke I listened to the first one and some of the second before losing interest.

What did you think of the narrator? I’m on the 3rd book despite him lol

drowsy urchin Jun 1, 2022, 3:10 PM

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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/06/01/siege-of-terra-book-7-aaron-dembski-bowden-shakes-the-imperial-palace-in-echoes-of-eternity/

Warhammer Community

Siege of Terra Book 7 – Aaron Dembski-Bowden Shakes the Imperial Pa...

Good things come to those who wait…

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it's happeniing

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finally

magic sable Jun 1, 2022, 3:45 PM

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What does everyone think of ADB? I’m currently reading Spear of the Emperor and am quite enjoying it

drowsy urchin Jun 1, 2022, 3:47 PM

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One of the best BL authors

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not the best but good nonetheless

random marlin Jun 1, 2022, 4:25 PM

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magic sable What does everyone think of ADB? I’m currently reading Spear of the Emperor and ...

Finished it last week, it's probably the best Space Marine novel I've read (but I didn't read a lot of them).

leaden ibex Jun 1, 2022, 4:29 PM

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He is very good. Helsreach is my personal favorite book from him.

whole goblet Jun 1, 2022, 4:42 PM

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He good

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Chuds get upset and call him a chaos fanboy

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This means he's good

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I'm hoping abnett writes the final sot book

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Started the hh with abnett

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End it with abnett

drowsy urchin Jun 1, 2022, 5:02 PM

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same

tender yoke Jun 1, 2022, 9:32 PM

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magic sable What did you think of the narrator? I’m on the 3rd book despite him lol

Wasn't a huge fan.

magic sable Jun 1, 2022, 10:17 PM

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tender yoke Wasn't a huge fan.

Yeah agreed. Think he did Guilliman and the Space Marines decently enough but everyone else ranged from mediocre to downright cringey

lunar sorrel Jun 1, 2022, 11:34 PM

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whole goblet Chuds get upset and call him a chaos fanboy

Based chuds

whole goblet Jun 1, 2022, 11:34 PM

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Heresy

lunar sorrel Jun 1, 2022, 11:35 PM

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Only one sided slaughterfests in favor of the good guys on my watch

magic sable Jun 1, 2022, 11:37 PM

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"good guys"

lunar sorrel Jun 1, 2022, 11:39 PM

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Dont start, erebus

tall phoenix Jun 1, 2022, 11:40 PM

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Eresus is based

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SusAngels

high ridge Jun 1, 2022, 11:40 PM

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Fuck erebus.

tall phoenix Jun 1, 2022, 11:40 PM

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Horus made pancake from his flayed face

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hes fine

glass sparrow Jun 2, 2022, 2:41 AM

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ADB varies for me in terms of what I like from him and what I do not like from him

glass sparrow Jun 2, 2022, 4:48 AM

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I hate Erebus because he makes for a really good villain. Meanwhile I hate Lorgar because he's such a whiny little bitch

oak pollen Jun 2, 2022, 4:54 AM

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tall phoenix Eresus is based

and that goes right to the top 5 of shit takes on 40k lore

drowsy urchin Jun 2, 2022, 4:56 AM

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Erebus is a great character indeed

light sparrow Jun 2, 2022, 5:06 AM

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oak pollen and that goes right to the top 5 of shit takes on 40k lore

without him we wouldnt have such a fun story

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so dilly is right, he is very based

oak pollen Jun 2, 2022, 5:08 AM

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light sparrow without him we wouldnt have such a fun story

bah lorgar's mortal dad had more of a hand in most of that

harsh meteor Jun 2, 2022, 5:40 AM

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did someone say "fuck erebus!"

oak pollen Jun 2, 2022, 5:51 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/war-hammer-fantasy-gif-19395056

Tenor

oak pollen Jun 2, 2022, 5:52 AM

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tall phoenix Horus made pancake from his flayed face

what

random marlin Jun 2, 2022, 7:02 AM

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glass sparrow ADB varies for me in terms of what I like from him and what I do not like from h...

Could you elaborate please?

tall phoenix Jun 2, 2022, 8:19 AM

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oak pollen what

Horus flayed his face lol

drowsy urchin Jun 2, 2022, 8:22 AM

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did this happen in the current HH already and I'm just forgetting about it?

tall phoenix Jun 2, 2022, 8:23 AM

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It was VERY near the Siege of Terra

drowsy urchin Jun 2, 2022, 8:24 AM

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In mainline novels or in the short stories?

harsh meteor Jun 2, 2022, 8:24 AM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/5ydfyd/an_amazing_dialogue_from_the_end_of_fear_to_tread/ source

tall phoenix Jun 2, 2022, 8:24 AM

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Erebus again suffered a humiliation after the Battle of Signus Prime, a plan he initiated despite repeated warnings that it would fail from Lorgar. There he let his arrogance slip in Horus's presence, blaming the Warmaster for disrupting his plans for the Blood Angels and Sanguinius. Horus punished him for his insolence by flaying Erebus's heavily-tattooed face from his skull with his own athame

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Its in Fear to Tread yeah

drowsy urchin Jun 2, 2022, 8:24 AM

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oh, then I just forgot about it

tall phoenix Jun 2, 2022, 8:24 AM

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lmao

harsh meteor Jun 2, 2022, 8:24 AM

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40klore is one of the better subreddits tbh

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generally really good stuff in there

tall phoenix Jun 2, 2022, 8:25 AM

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Its really not

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literally filled with nothing but dumb primarch threads every hour

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but theres some good posts in-between

harsh meteor Jun 2, 2022, 8:26 AM

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well, it is still reddit

tall phoenix Jun 2, 2022, 8:26 AM

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why

drowsy urchin Jun 2, 2022, 8:26 AM

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ooh now I remember yeah once I started reading that

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it has been a couple years now almost already since I got through fear to tread

hearty niche Jun 2, 2022, 9:58 AM

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What book should I read if I’ve never read a 40k book

drowsy urchin Jun 2, 2022, 9:58 AM

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Eisenhorn

glass sparrow Jun 2, 2022, 9:58 AM

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random marlin Could you elaborate please?

ADB did great things with Night Lords, and Hellsreach from the works I own in my audible library, But I am not a fan of the First Heretic, the needlessly cruel Emperor in Master of Mankind (I am avid about my opinion that there were far to many different hands working on the Emperor during the HH and it kind of ruined his character so it isn't just ADB), and this is more of a second hand knowledge thing but I wish I had the book so I could confirm it myself; But I remember hearing something about Grimaldus of the Black Templars, the Black Templars not worshiping the Emperor as a god and this was another work by ADB. If there was one chapter that worshiped him wholly as a god, it was those fuckers lol.

hearty niche Jun 2, 2022, 9:59 AM

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drowsy urchin Eisenhorn

Isn’t that the one about an inquisitor

drowsy urchin Jun 2, 2022, 9:59 AM

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Yes

glass sparrow Jun 2, 2022, 9:59 AM

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yes it is

hearty niche Jun 2, 2022, 9:59 AM

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Do I need to know anything before reading

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Or is it straight forward

drowsy urchin Jun 2, 2022, 9:59 AM

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it is pretty much the perfect starting point

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explains everything quite well

glass sparrow Jun 2, 2022, 10:00 AM

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it reads like a noir novel

drowsy urchin Jun 2, 2022, 10:01 AM

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read it and if you've got questions about it afterwards this video might help you with those https://youtu.be/IjMuBvDA7jY

YouTube

Arbitor Ian

EISENHORN: XENOS - Still the best intro to Warhammer 40,000? Book C...

Xenos by Dan Abnett is the first book in the Eisenhorn series, and it's often held up as one of the best introductions to the Warhammer 40,000 universe. But is that still the case? In this video I interview Mira, who is totally new to the 40k world, to see if it still holds up!

Links from the video:
No More Damsels: https://twitter.com/nmdlondo...

▶ Play video

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don't watch it yet though

glass sparrow Jun 2, 2022, 10:01 AM

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and you'll see a lot of call backs (call to's?) a lot of stuff that is referenced in the Gaunts Ghost series

hearty niche Jun 2, 2022, 10:01 AM

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drowsy urchin read it and if you've got questions about it afterwards this video might help yo...

👍

hearty niche Jun 2, 2022, 10:02 AM

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glass sparrow and you'll see a lot of call backs (call to's?) a lot of stuff that is reference...

Yea I seen people say gaunts ghost is a good series of books also

drowsy urchin Jun 2, 2022, 10:02 AM

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have you got a faction that you'd absolutely would like to know more of

hearty niche Jun 2, 2022, 10:03 AM

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Imperial guard is my favorite and I like chaos marines

drowsy urchin Jun 2, 2022, 10:03 AM

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Gaunts is IG shenanigans and I'd say the Night Lords trilogy is probably the best chaos marine story

agile hedge Jun 2, 2022, 10:04 AM

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Ciaphas Cain books are pretty good and are more humorous

hearty niche Jun 2, 2022, 10:04 AM

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Night lords are cool

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What are the books in order

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In the trilogy

drowsy urchin Jun 2, 2022, 10:06 AM

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Soul Hunter -> Blood Reaver -> Void Stalker

hearty niche Jun 2, 2022, 10:07 AM

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I always wanted to see what’s it’s like from a chaos point of view

glass sparrow Jun 2, 2022, 11:54 AM

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Chaos done right, as in they are not mustache twirling villains is always good.

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I say that and then think of Warmaster Varen from the Ciaphas Cain series... as he is exactly that, a mustache twirling chaos warlord.

random marlin Jun 2, 2022, 12:35 PM

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hearty niche Imperial guard is my favorite and I like chaos marines

Gaunts' Ghosts is focused on an Imperial Guard regiment, the Tanith First and Only, and is written by Dan Abnett. It's very good military-action with scenes tending to get a bit ridiculous sometimes (the Gaunt's Ghosts are kinda... overpowered!), but Abnett is, as usual, very good at making characters relatable and they're a fun read.

For something a bit more grimdark and thought-provoking, I'd suggest Peter Fehervari's Fire Caste, which could be summed up as "Apocalypse Now meets 40k". Fehervari has a very unique and evocative style, with a fascinating take on what Chaos is. Be warned that his style is not for everybody though, as it requires much more focus when reading. His novels and short stories unofficially form the Dark Coil: they are linked to each other, whether it is by characters, places or events. Basically, when you read one of his works, reading others will give you new insight on the first one if you read it again, which is quite impressive.

sweet slate Jun 2, 2022, 12:36 PM

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Tanith First and Only*

random marlin Jun 2, 2022, 12:37 PM

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(thanks, fixed it!)

oak pollen Jun 2, 2022, 4:52 PM

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tall phoenix > Erebus again suffered a humiliation after the Battle of Signus Prime, a plan h...

good

long geyser Jun 2, 2022, 5:02 PM

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random marlin *Gaunts' Ghosts* is focused on an Imperial Guard regiment, the Tanith First and ...

Hey, is Fire Caste by Fehervari about the Tau?

light sparrow Jun 2, 2022, 5:45 PM

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Yes

light sparrow Jun 2, 2022, 5:45 PM

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long geyser Hey, is Fire Caste by Fehervari about the Tau?

Tau and guevesa vs imperials vs ||spoilers!||

long geyser Jun 2, 2022, 5:48 PM

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Oh sweet! I have an unpainted Tau killteam + unbuilt Shadowsun and combat patrol

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They're one of my favourite factions as both a samurai and giant robot enjoyer

light sparrow Jun 2, 2022, 6:13 PM

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long geyser They're one of my favourite factions as both a samurai and giant robot enjoyer

Hell ye comrade for the greater good

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Also check out Fire Warrior, its the novelization of the game, but way better

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Sadly a lot has been decanoned but its still great

long geyser Jun 2, 2022, 6:21 PM

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Eh the Canon is a mess and it comes and goes. I'm okay to play fast and loose with it

light sparrow Jun 2, 2022, 6:22 PM

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long geyser Eh the Canon is a mess and it comes and goes. I'm okay to play fast and loose wi...

Then deffo check out fire warrior its great

random marlin Jun 2, 2022, 6:24 PM

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long geyser Hey, is Fire Caste by Fehervari about the Tau?

Although they play an important part, the Tau are not the main focus of the novel, which is more centered around human characters, notably a commissar and an Astra Militarum Regiment, the 19th Arkan Confederates. This regiment has very unique aspects to it and has a fascinating, dark story.

There's also at least one Tau character who is a viewpoint character and if you're interested in Tau, the novel doesn't describe them as pushovers at all and taught me a lot about them as I didn't know them very well.

Although the overall ambience of decomposition and corruption of Phaedra, the world the Tau and Imperium are fighting on, is one of the main strengths of the book, there are also very good combat scenes in the novel, notably between ||Sentinels and Tau Battlesuits||.

By the way, the novel was renamed by BL, but its original title is "Thunderground", a word with a very important meaning for the Arkan Confederates regiment. But BL/GW chose to rename it because the novel was released at a point where they wanted to push the Tau faction on the foreground, which is a disservice to the novel, as it's definitely not its main focus. And people who read it at the time were furious that the title was misleading and left angry and negative reviews about it for this.

To this day, when asked to sign an autograph on Fire Caste, Fehervari usually scratches the name of the novel and writes Thunderground himself. That's really how the novel should have been named.

long geyser Jun 2, 2022, 6:28 PM

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Aw that kinda sucks

light sparrow Jun 2, 2022, 6:29 PM

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Yea sadly its one of the only books that really show how cool the tau can be

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So i consider it a tau book as well as an IG one

chilly loom Jun 2, 2022, 6:30 PM

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Lmao xeno curse

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Book named after you

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About guard

light sparrow Jun 2, 2022, 6:30 PM

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Guarded

long geyser Jun 2, 2022, 6:39 PM

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Imperium stop making everything about them for five seconds challenge (impossible)

floral viper Jun 2, 2022, 6:41 PM

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i failed

long geyser Jun 2, 2022, 6:47 PM

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🤣

hearty niche Jun 2, 2022, 8:37 PM

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random marlin *Gaunts' Ghosts* is focused on an Imperial Guard regiment, the Tanith First and ...

Thank you for the suggestions OmegaGuardsmanHype

agile hedge Jun 2, 2022, 8:38 PM

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If you want le funny guardsman books, Ciaphas Cain

toxic nebula Jun 2, 2022, 8:39 PM

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tbf its a book thats basically someones fanfiction about the confederates in space

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don't blame GW for trying to hide they were the focus

hearty niche Jun 2, 2022, 9:13 PM

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Im gonna get the Night Lords Trilogy

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then Gaunts Ghosts

agile hedge Jun 2, 2022, 9:25 PM

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That sounds like a good choice

random marlin Jun 2, 2022, 9:27 PM

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Gaunt’s Ghosts are Sharpe/95th rifles in space.
Ciaphas Cain is Blackadder in space.
Basically, there’s a lot of stuff, if not everything, in 40k that can be summed up by « it’s X in space ».

Besides, although confederates from the american civil war are an obvious inspiration for a lot of things in the regiment, there are enough unique things about it that are completely different from their historical counterparts. And they’re not exactly depicted as heroic.

Last, GW/BL’s decision at the time was linked to what they were focused on on the tabletop, not to a will of hiding « something shameful » which just isn’t there in the novel. There are available interviews on the Internet where the author speaks about it and, if you speak with him directly, he’s pretty open about why the title was changed.

random marlin Jun 2, 2022, 9:28 PM

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hearty niche Im gonna get the Night Lords Trilogy

Solid choices, heard a lot of good stuff about the Night Lord trilogy.

glass sparrow Jun 2, 2022, 11:33 PM

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giving the Mephiston series a go on Audible. will say that I enjoyed listening to a extremely fat priest ending up getting winded just from the act of being helped out of his chair, and having Rhacelus being absolutely disgusted with him.

thorn bison Jun 3, 2022, 6:46 PM

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I've been reading the new Huron Blackheart novel and I have got to say that I love how casually evil Hurons thoughts are.

Example:

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"Huron grins at her. He realises that it is absurd for him to be proud of having stung her pride - he, who has just unleashed destruction on the planet below! - but mass murder should not distract one from the little cruelties of life."

tall phoenix Jun 3, 2022, 6:47 PM

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Huron has that Skeletor Grindset going on

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Gigachad

drowsy urchin Jun 3, 2022, 6:47 PM

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I've gotta look into the new Huron book at some point

thorn bison Jun 3, 2022, 6:47 PM

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You heard it here first folks, don't let your murderous tendencies distract you from the finer things in life!

thorn bison Jun 3, 2022, 6:47 PM

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drowsy urchin I've gotta look into the new Huron book at some point

Oh it's great

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A true CSM book

leaden ibex Jun 3, 2022, 7:37 PM

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mike brooks is a good writer

azure dirge Jun 3, 2022, 8:55 PM

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thanks

glass sparrow Jun 4, 2022, 2:53 AM

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nothing better sums up Mephistons "I can do just about whatever I want" than the fact that he flays himself just to scry the future. in his second book.

proven gust Jun 4, 2022, 10:37 AM

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thorn bison "Huron grins at her. He realises that it is absurd for him to be proud of having...

Huron just over here living the best life.
Enjoying every moment.

orchid kelp Jun 4, 2022, 7:43 PM

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The two 40k books that I own

chilly loom Jun 4, 2022, 7:44 PM

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Path of the deldar

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Amazing taste

glass sparrow Jun 5, 2022, 11:19 AM

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I always liked the Incubus and their weapons.

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very dark knight-esque aesthetic

unborn merlin Jun 5, 2022, 1:06 PM

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Most of the books I own are in audiobook format, can’t really display that 😔

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I do have Xenos in paperback. That’s something at least.

mellow knot Jun 5, 2022, 10:22 PM

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thorn bison I've been reading the new Huron Blackheart novel and I have got to say that I lo...

Ol' Slobberchops is a joy.

thorn bison Jun 5, 2022, 10:28 PM

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unborn merlin I do have Xenos in paperback. That’s something at least.

Banger

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Have you read the other ones?

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Malleus and Hereticus to be exact

unborn merlin Jun 5, 2022, 10:31 PM

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Sill in the middle of Xenos.

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Been busy playing that new Evil Dead game. Audiobooks are just so much easier to get through for obvious reasons.

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Can pop one on and listen to Jonathan Keeble’s buttery voice, until he goes full gargling nightmare of insanity.

unborn merlin Jun 5, 2022, 10:34 PM

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thorn bison Banger

Really enjoy the cast mostly, a lot of 40K novels lack in that department. Will probably cry when they inevitably die in the sequel novels.

thorn bison Jun 5, 2022, 10:35 PM

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Dan Abnett has never failed in making a killer cast

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When you're done with the Eisenhorn trilogy you've got to read Gaunt’s Ghosts

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It's long and violent and emotional as all hell but damn if it ain't worth it

unborn merlin Jun 5, 2022, 10:36 PM

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I’ve read the first novel once upon a time, need to get back in them.

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Just finished the quote on quote “Garro series” so I’m mostly retracing my steps.

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Jumped around after the last book in the og trilogy.

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Might just go straight back to Fulgrim and see where that takes me. Heard that one is devilishly good for obvious reasons.

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Dan Abnett is definitely a strong author.

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Love his stuff.

thorn bison Jun 5, 2022, 10:39 PM

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unborn merlin Might just go straight back to Fulgrim and see where that takes me. Heard that o...

Fulgrim the HH book?

unborn merlin Jun 5, 2022, 10:39 PM

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Yeah

thorn bison Jun 5, 2022, 10:39 PM

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I actually didn't like that one

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Surprisingly

unborn merlin Jun 5, 2022, 10:40 PM

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Really? I’ve heard mostly good things.

thorn bison Jun 5, 2022, 10:40 PM

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It's good until the last 50-60 something pages

unborn merlin Jun 5, 2022, 10:40 PM

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Always have been more into the HH books as a whole. Think I’ve read twenty something of them.

unborn merlin Jun 5, 2022, 10:40 PM

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thorn bison It's good until the last 50-60 something pages

Ah, hopefully it jams with me but I’ll keep that in mind.

thorn bison Jun 5, 2022, 10:41 PM

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I think it just drags out what they could've ended with less text than they did but it's still a good ending

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It just takes a bit to get to it

unborn merlin Jun 5, 2022, 10:41 PM

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Could say that for a lot of chaos centered books.

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After I listen to it I’ll give you my thoughts.

thorn bison Jun 5, 2022, 10:42 PM

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Cool

unborn merlin Jun 5, 2022, 10:43 PM

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Wanna read the Lion’s probably after that. If you have any recommendations shoot, pretty knowledgeable of the Hersey overall so I’m not wary of spoilers.

thorn bison Jun 5, 2022, 10:43 PM

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Speaking of the Horus Heresy novel series, have you read First Heretic and Betrayer?

unborn merlin Jun 5, 2022, 10:44 PM

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First Heretic is on the top of my list.

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Haven’t yet unfortunately.

thorn bison Jun 5, 2022, 10:44 PM

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Apart from Legion and the Alpharius, Head of the Hydra novels they're the best ones

unborn merlin Jun 5, 2022, 10:44 PM

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Adding that to the list.

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The Alpha Legion are always fun.

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Admittedly have avoided their novels so I’m more than willing to try them out.

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Tired out on the Knights-Errant rn.

thorn bison Jun 5, 2022, 10:47 PM

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Alpha Legion stuff is my favourite because of the sheer confusion you feel until the climax

unborn merlin Jun 5, 2022, 10:49 PM

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They’re dramatic in the good way.

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They’re my favorite loyalist legion for sure.

thorn bison Jun 5, 2022, 10:50 PM

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Best chapter for sure

unborn merlin Jun 5, 2022, 10:50 PM

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Who’d you say would be your least favorite?

thorn bison Jun 5, 2022, 10:51 PM

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White Scars or Emperor's Children

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With the exception of a few characters they're extremely boring imo

unborn merlin Jun 5, 2022, 10:52 PM

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Not the White Scars 💔

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No vroom vroom?

thorn bison Jun 5, 2022, 10:52 PM

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They go fast

unborn merlin Jun 5, 2022, 10:52 PM

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Very fast even.

thorn bison Jun 5, 2022, 10:52 PM

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But so does Kharn on a hover bike

unborn merlin Jun 5, 2022, 10:52 PM

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True lul…

thorn bison Jun 5, 2022, 10:53 PM

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Ever read Kharn, The Red Path?

unborn merlin Jun 5, 2022, 10:53 PM

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Nope 👉👈

thorn bison Jun 5, 2022, 10:53 PM

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Starts with him hunting Scars using their own bikes

unborn merlin Jun 5, 2022, 10:53 PM

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Only been reading the novels for about a year so I got a ways away.

thorn bison Jun 5, 2022, 10:54 PM

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Oh you've got such a ride ahead of you

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I'm almost envious

unborn merlin Jun 5, 2022, 10:54 PM

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Honestly not a fan of the Iron Warriors.

thorn bison Jun 5, 2022, 10:54 PM

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They have one good book

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But they make good rivals

unborn merlin Jun 5, 2022, 10:55 PM

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They’re one of the weaker chaos legions in my eyes. I heard the Primarch book fleshes Perturabo out and the rivalry between him and Dorn is great stuff.

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Prefer the Word Bearers or the Death Guard over them any day.

thorn bison Jun 5, 2022, 10:56 PM

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It does flesh him out and shows a more personal side of Perty but they're still generally pretty dull

unborn merlin Jun 5, 2022, 10:56 PM

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Hell, the Night Lords are great too.

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Those books?

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Godly.

thorn bison Jun 5, 2022, 10:56 PM

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The trilogy?

unborn merlin Jun 5, 2022, 10:56 PM

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Yeah

thorn bison Jun 5, 2022, 10:57 PM

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Still my favourite read in the 4 something years I've been reading BL

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Only Gaunt's Ghosts come close

unborn merlin Jun 5, 2022, 10:58 PM

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The Gaunt’s series has very big shoes to fill then. Can’t wait to read them.

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First book is great to say the least.

thorn bison Jun 5, 2022, 10:58 PM

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To put it this way, if you like Eisenhorn you'll like GG

unborn merlin Jun 5, 2022, 10:59 PM

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Sold

thorn bison Jun 5, 2022, 10:59 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/tokator-rambo-survive-gif-21438503

Tenor

glass sparrow Jun 5, 2022, 11:00 PM

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just got done with Mephiston: city of light, now starting the new Kharn book.

thorn bison Jun 5, 2022, 11:02 PM

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You mean Eater of Worlds?

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I haven't gotten my hands on it yet

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Hope it's good

glass sparrow Jun 5, 2022, 11:56 PM

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only a few chapters in, it covers the battle for skalathrax so that's going to be interesting to listen to

magic sable Jun 6, 2022, 1:46 AM

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Are you supposed to read Eisenhorn: Magos before or after either Pariah or Penitent? I just finished the last Ravenor book and don't know where to go next.

drowsy urchin Jun 6, 2022, 4:33 AM

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actually wait a second

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Beofre Pariah yes

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the Magos book has a reading order list in it as well if you've got the physical copy

magic sable Jun 6, 2022, 2:13 PM

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Oh damn I didn’t know that lol I do indeed have a physical copy

opal tiger Jun 7, 2022, 2:14 AM

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@spark granite

spark granite Jun 7, 2022, 2:15 AM

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opal tiger <@244846008511496193>

opal tiger Jun 7, 2022, 2:15 AM

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I got everything in one Smug

proud hare Jun 7, 2022, 2:16 AM

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Where do I get one?

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The munitorum that is

spark granite Jun 7, 2022, 2:16 AM

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opal tiger I got everything in one <:Smug:736624565588983848>

Heresy how dare you have all our information in one easily read book

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It is meant to be three so as to make it harder for the enemy scum to piece our secrets together

opal tiger Jun 7, 2022, 2:21 AM

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proud hare Where do I get one?

Older one may be outta print

opal tiger Jun 7, 2022, 2:21 AM

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spark granite Heresy how dare you have all our information in one easily read book

Though it’s the same man

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Munitorum Scribe Graham McNeill

proud hare Jun 7, 2022, 2:23 AM

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Ah ok I got one handbook on the way anyway

thorn bison Jun 7, 2022, 1:00 PM

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All of chapter 2 of Sigismund: The Eternal Crusader can be summed up in one GIF

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https://tenor.com/view/tarantino-killbill-beatrixkiddo-crazy88s-gif-9713357

Tenor

glass sparrow Jun 7, 2022, 8:42 PM

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Mephiston: City of Light can be summed up as such;
Demon: Hah! you've fallen for my trap! I've been leading you along for 500 years Mephiston!
Mephiston: pulls out a UNO reverse card
Demon: wait... what's this fo-
Magnus: EXTREAME DEMON MALDING IN THE BACKGROUND
Demon: well... shit.

thorn bison Jun 7, 2022, 9:31 PM

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Darkness in the Blood (featuring Mephiston) can be summed up like so:
Literally anything: I will kill/enslave/do bad things to you Mephiston!
Mephiston: No
Literally everything: Fucking dies/fails/is beaten or overcome

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Mephiston is the ultimate chad

honest gust Jun 8, 2022, 5:31 AM

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Dunno if other people think well of the book, but "Purging of Kadillus" was a good read imo. It's about PDF & dark angels (i think) fighting off an ork invasion. Little more on the violent side i think, although ive only read like 5 books. Good scout marine action, some PDF "for the emprah" stuff, one of the marines destroys some pdf with facts and logic.

tall phoenix Jun 8, 2022, 8:14 AM

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glass sparrow Mephiston: City of Light can be summed up as such; Demon: Hah! you've fallen for...

Yeha its a really bad book

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Mephiston is literally the ultimate mary sue in it with his powers lol

glass sparrow Jun 8, 2022, 9:46 AM

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tall phoenix Yeha its a really bad book

it is for sure missing something. At least Ahriman has to battle his inner demons when he wants to use his powers.

tall phoenix Jun 8, 2022, 9:55 AM

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Yeah Mephy has like zero problems in this book

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when hes using literal jojo powers it gets even worse

glass sparrow Jun 8, 2022, 9:57 AM

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Book 1: his powers are consuming him.
Book 2: the dead are haunting him.
Book 3: vampire jesus.

tall phoenix Jun 8, 2022, 9:58 AM

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LMAO yeah

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he actually does a ZA WARUDO

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https://tenor.com/view/za-warudo-zawarudo-the-world-gif-10578246

Tenor

glass sparrow Jun 8, 2022, 9:58 AM

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he does it like 4-5 times lmao

tall phoenix Jun 8, 2022, 9:59 AM

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its so fucking funny

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it actually took me out of the book

glass sparrow Jun 8, 2022, 10:00 AM

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I hope that doesn't show up in the next one I read, but I have a feeling it is.

tall phoenix Jun 8, 2022, 10:00 AM

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Yeah same..

glass sparrow Jun 8, 2022, 10:03 AM

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I will say, Mephiston reverting to full on Uunga Buunga mode when he goes to the City of Light is really funny to me. He channels pure Rage Barbarian energy at that point in the book.

tall phoenix Jun 8, 2022, 10:03 AM

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Its a really good part

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the book isnt terrible though it just has "why tho" moments

glass sparrow Jun 8, 2022, 10:04 AM

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I think my favorite part was the hidden painting of the Emperor

drowsy urchin Jun 8, 2022, 1:09 PM

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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/06/08/dan-abnett-interview-how-to-start-and-finish-the-most-epic-series-in-sci-fi/

Warhammer Community

Dan Abnett Interview – How to Start and Finish the Most Epic Series...

The man who started it all in Horus Rising on finishing the Siege of Terra.

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!!!!

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I am quite excited

tall phoenix Jun 8, 2022, 1:24 PM

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Its a bit too much marketing speech for me

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but on the other hand this nightmare is almost over

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jokes aside interested to see how it concludes tho

thorn bison Jun 8, 2022, 1:29 PM

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I have yet to read any of them save Saturnine

sweet slate Jun 8, 2022, 1:29 PM

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I have a bad feeling about the emperor char, i dunno why but i think we will have to say goodbye to him, horus seems too much strong at the moment... Just a bad feeling

thorn bison Jun 8, 2022, 1:31 PM

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Since it's Abnett who's writing the book I hope the Emperor guy gets the big happy ending but it gets you worried

tall phoenix Jun 8, 2022, 1:32 PM

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I hope they all realise their differences and hug it out

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the Hosus Heresussy has gone on too long

thorn bison Jun 8, 2022, 1:34 PM

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Yeah Horus should just take a breath and apologise

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I'm sure that would work out great

leaden ibex Jun 8, 2022, 1:35 PM

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Horus is going to get some counseling

lime verge Jun 8, 2022, 1:45 PM

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leaden ibex Horus is going to get some counseling

The first half is gonna be a big battle, the second half is gonna be them going to therapy, the denouement is gonna be them realizing they cant afford the therapy bills because theres no universal healthcare in the imperium of man.

mellow knot Jun 8, 2022, 1:46 PM

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“Then Horus woke up and it had all been a dream, the end.”

thorn bison Jun 8, 2022, 1:56 PM

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"Rebellion? Gods? The Imperium dying? Brother, we're on Ullanor listening as father tells us his reasons for going back to Terra so that humanity can prosper under our reign."

magic sable Jun 8, 2022, 3:22 PM

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So what comes after HH/SoT, focusing more on 42nd millennium shenanigans?

icy ingot Jun 8, 2022, 3:25 PM

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i just finished Eisenhorn xenos and now i love the inquisition

thorn bison Jun 8, 2022, 3:25 PM

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Bro yes

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Now read the other two

icy ingot Jun 8, 2022, 3:25 PM

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im about to

thorn bison Jun 8, 2022, 3:26 PM

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pog

thorn bison Jun 8, 2022, 3:27 PM

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magic sable So what comes after HH/SoT, focusing more on 42nd millennium shenanigans?

I suppose since there are pretty much no books covering what happens between the Siege and now

sweet slate Jun 8, 2022, 3:27 PM

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icy ingot i just finished Eisenhorn xenos and now i love the inquisition

Ew

icy ingot Jun 8, 2022, 3:27 PM

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is the war of the beast in a book?

thorn bison Jun 8, 2022, 3:28 PM

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Yes

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that's an exception

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but also kinda not since it happens in the 32 millennium and some books do still cover that specifically

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Talon of Horus and Black Legion play out during that time as well

tall phoenix Jun 8, 2022, 3:50 PM

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magic sable So what comes after HH/SoT, focusing more on 42nd millennium shenanigans?

Dawn of Fire atm

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after that iirc they will explore the other side of the rift with another book series

thorn bison Jun 8, 2022, 4:16 PM

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Dawn of Fire is really good

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I just ordered Throne of Light and so far I have not been dissapointed in them

magic sable Jun 8, 2022, 4:17 PM

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I’m listening to the last book of Dark Imperium

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Got about 2 1/2 hours left

thorn bison Jun 8, 2022, 4:18 PM

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Hey I ordered the first one in that series too

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Is it good?

magic sable Jun 8, 2022, 4:24 PM

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First book is really good

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Second book is alright

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Third one was kinda boring to start off with imo but its picked up about halfway through. Not a fan of the narrator tbh.

torpid hemlock Jun 8, 2022, 5:26 PM

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I need to re-read The Siege of Castellax
I remember thoroughly enjoying all the twists and turns

tall phoenix Jun 8, 2022, 5:36 PM

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It was the one with the Iron Warriors against Orks right?

torpid hemlock Jun 8, 2022, 5:36 PM

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Plus a rebellion storyline

tall phoenix Jun 8, 2022, 5:57 PM

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Oh man that book is good

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surprisingly does a good job of making you care about some chaos marines surviving a siege

tawdry stone Jun 8, 2022, 8:43 PM

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I wish there were good T'au books :/

chilly loom Jun 8, 2022, 9:01 PM

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Unfortunately the main tau writer has a obsession with farsight

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So its p much Farsight books or nothing

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Or guard books disguised as tau books lmao

glass sparrow Jun 8, 2022, 9:14 PM

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there might be the odd Audio drama here or there, and there is the book about Shadow Sun and the White Scars.

light sparrow Jun 8, 2022, 10:12 PM

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tawdry stone I wish there were good T'au books :/

Fire warrior novelization

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Its mostly decanoned now but its a great read

tawdry stone Jun 8, 2022, 10:14 PM

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chilly loom Unfortunately the main tau writer has a obsession with farsight

:(

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Thanks, James Workshop

glass sparrow Jun 9, 2022, 9:56 PM

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I never realized that I was missing tech priest vs tech priest work disputes back sass in binharic from my life, but thank you Titanicus for giving me insight on how it takes 2 seconds for one tech priest to call another a useless bitch, no one cares who your sister is or the fact that she is serving in a titan you dumb twat, stop talking to me and actually do your job, there is a war going on so why the hell are you bothering me at this moment, if you or your master have an issue with me then you can both kiss my augmented metal ass.

thorn bison Jun 9, 2022, 11:32 PM

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Could you link the Titanicus book? for some reason I cant find it anywhere

glass sparrow Jun 9, 2022, 11:35 PM

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I can post the audible link

thorn bison Jun 9, 2022, 11:35 PM

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that works

glass sparrow Jun 9, 2022, 11:37 PM

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Listen to Titanicus by Dan Abnett on Audible. https://www.audible.com/pd/B09WZ5V3MQ?source_code=ASSOR150021921000V

Audible.com

Titanicus

Check out this great listen on Audible.com. A Sabbat Worlds novel. When the vital forge world of Orestes comes under attack by a legion of Chaos Titans, the planet is forced to appeal for help. The Titans of Legio Invicta respond, committing their own force of war engines to the battle. Listen to ...

thorn bison Jun 9, 2022, 11:38 PM

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Thanks buddy!

glass sparrow Jun 9, 2022, 11:40 PM

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It's a good 14 hour long book

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And the bit I was mentioning happens near the end of chapter 8

thorn bison Jun 9, 2022, 11:45 PM

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I'm not much for audio books but since it's Abnett AND Sabbat Worlds I feel like I have to

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Imma give it a try

glass sparrow Jun 9, 2022, 11:51 PM

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Toby Longworth is a good narrator. But I could see if there is a regular book if you'd like that.

thorn bison Jun 9, 2022, 11:53 PM

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I checked, it's audio only

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Thanks though

glass sparrow Jun 9, 2022, 11:54 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/Titanicus-Warhammer-000-Dan-Abnett/dp/1844167852?ref_=d6k_applink_bb_dls

Titanicus (Warhammer 40,000)

Black Library's best-selling SF author Dan Abnett takes his talents to a whole new level recounting an epic tale of Titans, the massive war machines of Warhammer 40,000.

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About that

thorn bison Jun 9, 2022, 11:55 PM

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Hold the phone

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what sorcery

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a thousand thanks

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oh it's from 2009 that's why I didn't find it

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I was looking among the newer stuff

glass sparrow Jun 9, 2022, 11:57 PM

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Google fu comes in pretty handy sometimes

thorn bison Jun 9, 2022, 11:57 PM

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Indeed it does

barren oar Jun 10, 2022, 10:27 PM

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Not really 40k but does anyone have any recommendations for warhammer old world fantasy novels

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I’m finishing up skaven slayer and want to try something new before I jump into the next book

thorn bison Jun 10, 2022, 10:34 PM

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Someone mentioned earlier that Godsbane was really good

barren oar Jun 10, 2022, 10:34 PM

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thorn bison Someone mentioned earlier that Godsbane was really good

What’s that about?

thorn bison Jun 10, 2022, 10:35 PM

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I don't know

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Haven't read it yet

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https://www.games-workshop.com/en-SE/godsbane-hb-eng-2022

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here

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In eldritch days long lost to memory, those desperate to escape the cruelties of the gods forged a terrible weapon. Capable of granting the humblest mortal the power to stand against the might of the divine, it came to be known as Godsbane.

For Thelana Evenfall, Lumineth loreseeker and tutor at the Lyceum Fundamental in the city of Settler's Gain, the weapon is a footnote – the shadow of a rumour buried under mountains of long-forgotten lore. But when whispers of its whereabouts resurface, the vying factions within Hysh emerge to claim its power. From trusted allies to insidious cults, Thelana must navigate a treacherous landscape of clashing armies, political machinations and betrayals within betrayals, all in a desperate effort to defend the powerless from the all-powerful and to ask the unanswerable question:

Who is worthy to wield Godsbane?

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wait no sorry it's not oldhammer

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my mistake

barren oar Jun 10, 2022, 10:37 PM

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It’s fine

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I get their trying to pump out AoS. It’s just not my personal speed

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Thanks tho

thorn bison Jun 10, 2022, 10:38 PM

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No problem