40k-book-club

[severe trail]

The old shira calpurnia novels

[tall phoenix]

but still good

[severe trail]

Who are like

Dated but good

You can really tell by the art

[final adder]

Good. Waiter, 500 million more necromunda drops please!

[fickle temple]

I really like how the authoritarian arb personality is super human despite his tone

[final adder]

I LOVE GANG VIOLENCE AND SELLING STIMS TO ORPHANS

[snow siren]

Eisenhorn’s trilogy has one

Also good for some background regular imperial person stuff too

[fickle temple]

Oo nice

[tall phoenix]

Governor Reagan at it again 😔

[snow siren]

Wait till you find out the average Goliath is 3 years old

(This isn’t a joke)

[severe trail]

Ashwaste nomads pornography

What did GW mean by this

[snow siren]

I love how they don’t even know if Nomads are human or something else

[tall phoenix]

Their codex is the BEST form of "unreliable narrator"

40k keeps saying shit like

"OH WHO KNOWS WHAT THIS IS"

But this rulebook is the only one ever that does it right

its great

[fickle temple]

Im guessing I need to tredge through a lot of coal to find gems

[snow siren]

It’s so much fun

[severe trail]

They do know if they’re humans vaguely

Based on anecdotal evidence

[final adder]

Which warhammer crime novels should I start with?

[severe trail]

And some actual reports

[snow siren]

Human shaped

[severe trail]

Bloodlines

After that the world is your oyster

[snow siren]

From drunks and charlatans!

[final adder]

Ty

[severe trail]

Good a source as any smh

[tall phoenix]

Id also suggest reading them by release order

there isnt a continous story but like its kinda easier

[severe trail]

Jokes aside I really like the idea their bodies flash boil/rot away

[final adder]

Gotcha, ty

[severe trail]

From that one chunk of drunk stories

[tall phoenix]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Warhammer_Crime

[snow siren]

I really struggled with King of the Spoil like

[severe trail]

I really liked it LOL

💀

[snow siren]

I could dig that

I went with the idea they’re human but cthulu cultist esque for mine, Sump Sea lore lets me play with them worshipping an awoken but broken Delaque friend

[severe trail]

Fun

[fickle temple]

I may be a bit dum

[severe trail]

I’ve never wanted to make an ash wastes gang but their lore is so cool

[fickle temple]

:(

[snow siren]

It’s the first couple of chapters, I need to muscle through them

[fickle temple]

Didn't know godwin was an arbitrator

Im cooked

[snow siren]

I did them as a painting project, then someone else started a campaign (I usually run outs) and I figured I’d go with it

[tall phoenix]

tbh its not drawn to much

because arbites were a non-factor in older 40k

they were basically budget Enforcers lol

modern lore has really shaken them up to be upper echelon skullbreakers

also their Killteam rulebook has really fleshed out their entire organisation

[fickle temple]

Thats what I want auugghhhh

[tall phoenix]

yeah thats the annoying bit

they got extremely well re-invented but now we literally have ZERO books

its all through largely videogames

ala Rogue Trader and Darktide who show them off the best lol

[fickle temple]

This is so fucked.

[tall phoenix]

Worst part is with modern 40k?

we wont even know if the novel they one day DO get is good or not

...if its by Nick Kyme... lord have mercy

eepy simulator....

[severe trail]

It’s by Mike Brooks

but it’s like masters of the maelstrom

[fickle temple]

Honestly sad. I really liked the personalities despite the players being ass. Its so infuriating

[tall phoenix]

Dont care. MORE BROOKS

[severe trail]

Lol

[fickle temple]

Please gw make a solid book for arbitrators

[tall phoenix]

yeah thats their new curse rn until they get a book lol

i do think they still got the best end of the stick with RT/Darktide

[fickle temple]

Yeah

I still think about auth saying hab something lacked the Mood suppressants in their air

[final adder]

They're everything ice agents wish they were lmao

[fickle temple]

And like. Bro how did you know that immediately?

Dudes in ssri withdrawal

[tall phoenix]

bro WHAT

[severe trail]

Authoritarian needs that stuff

Or else he gets too happy

[tall phoenix]

I do love how they say some of the MOST unhinged fascist shit sometimes

its like a fucking vine boom simulator

[fickle temple]

Yeah lmfaoooo

[severe trail]

Anything out of Maul’s mouth is always gold for that

[final adder]

The authoritarian is so autistic I love him

[severe trail]

Authoritarian and Fatalist range from

Normal to batshit insane

lol

Which makes it more fun

Banter roulette

Something normal or

[fickle temple]

Psyker: So childish, you oppressors counting your kills.

Auth: It is not Childish! It is diligent record keeping!

[final adder]

I like how self aware the fatalist is too

[severe trail]

“We should just gas everyone and call it a day”

[fickle temple]

Something along those

[severe trail]

The female fatalist getting along with male maul is terrifying

💀

[tall phoenix]

LMAO

[fickle temple]

I should make my arbitrator fem and see what she says

[tall phoenix]

You should explore all of them

they are very fun

[severe trail]

The female arbitrators are just as unhinged as the male ones

Just in different ways

Aside from Maul

Female Maul and Male Maul are basically the same personality wise

[fickle temple]

Different impact

[final adder]

I will be forever happy that they made the dialogue between the scum and arbi characters absolutely heinous, its everything I could've hoped for

[fickle temple]

"Lets go someplace quiet"

I don't think the auth really says mandated edict

Not in the time I spent playing

[final adder]

Thats maul

[tall phoenix]

yeah thats Maul

[fickle temple]

Thought so

[tall phoenix]

Mandated Edict is his catchphrase

[severe trail]

Maul’s are the only ones who say it

Iirc

[final adder]

The auth is a dog person. He loves his mastiff

[severe trail]

I’ve never heard auth or fatalist say it

[fickle temple]

I feel like the mechanicum are only allowed to be religious because the writers were too lazy to rewrite them

[tall phoenix]

Nah its entirely to show the Emperor's hypocrisy

[snow siren]

Yeah, E is happy rocking up with an armed guard to nuke a small chapel and its elderly priest

But when it comes to the Mechanicum he bottles it

[forest spruce]

He probably would of dealt with the mechanicum eventually

Just like he was planning to deal with the navigators

[tall phoenix]

^

[severe trail]

He explicitly was preparing to kill them

With the whole making tech guilds thing, kidnapping people to bring to terra

And promoting infighting

[fickle temple]

I understand the Anti Xeno shit is a plot device but man is it annoying.

It reminds me way too much of my dads bigotry

Theyre aliens! theyre vile! theyre violent! they exist so we must kill them!

My least favorite reasoning ever is "Because x is y"

[sage pelican]

Welp
Began listening the Eisenhorn series
Felt nice for him to have a need for glasses after the night lords book

[wise yew]

Savlar Chem Dogs novel

new ork book

[celest heron]

Theyre just tech bros

The lower level ones are brainwashed corporate slaves with the higher ones being douches

[drowsy urchin]

oh man....

[fickle scroll]

Fancy

[snow siren]

Oh yeah!

[forest spruce]

That's by the same author as grotsnik

That means it'll probably be peak

[hybrid turtle]

oh yeahh denny flowers

finished above and beyond recently it was very good too

[wise yew]

Yeah I notice that it's definitely going to be peak

[forest spruce]

Denny writes orks very well

[chrome badge]

time to see trazyn begging his wife to stop destroying shits illustrated

[fringe thorn]

Sick book drop this week

Anyone know if the new The Infinite and the Divine will be limited in numbers?

[frigid osprey]

chem dogs book is kooooooool

[final adder]

A commissar with a thunder hammer isn't something you see everyday lol

[snow siren]

I’m not saying he stole it but that is precisely the Chem Dog’s thing

[tall phoenix]

The Short story taking place before this novel is apt for that lol

the characters keep going over the shit they stole or killed then nabbed from fellow regiments lmao

[severe trail]

Good ol savlar

[fringe thorn]

the yoink regiment

[tall phoenix]

remember guys, stealing stuff is cool

especially if its a big boom stick

[fickle temple]

Done with Horus Rising

that ending was kind of dry.

Probably in due part to me rushing but

I am really not in the mood for yet another intense astarte battle

Never thought I'd finish a book again

yet I did

and yet again

it was kind of mid.

5.7/10

writing an essay on this book would be infuriating

[fickle temple]

And kind of disappointed to not see horus turn heretic

And that's in false gods...fuck...

[fickle scroll]

It's a slow burn

[drowsy stone]

So what are like the best books of horus heresy? Not SoT I gots all of them

I have newfound hunger for good books after the outcast dead

Dont even have to be super central to the big plot just overrall most liked HH books

[tacit void]

In my totally unbiased opinion:

The First Heretic
Aurelian
Know No Fear
Mark of Calth
Betrayal at Calth
Betrayer

[drowsy stone]

Know no fear is next in line for me then I guess

[tacit void]

Its good

[severe trail]

Brooks leaked the fact the Solomon mini is gona happen lol

Whoops

[tall phoenix]

Damn bro is fired 😔

[drowsy stone]

Kai Zulane frigging stalemate master hot damn

[unborn merlin]

Met a middle schooler yesterday while subbing for his class. Apparently he's a big Space Sharks fan lol

He called me out for being a Night Lords fan when he saw my wallpaper.

[tall phoenix]

Bro cannot beat the allegations

[unborn merlin]

I was honestly confused for a moment when he pulled me to the side and said "nice Night Lords wallpaper." Apparently his dad is an NL player.

He likes Tyberos especially because he's big and looks cool. Honestly fair enough.

[tacit void]

Pre Primarch XIX and NL average meeting

[unborn merlin]

LOL

Not a single child was flayed that day.

[wise yew]

Wild warhammer fan encounter in the wild is crazy

[tacit void]

Phew

[unborn merlin]

Usually ends with a Black Templar fan yelling at me for being a traitorous dog in public.

Met a very friendly World Eaters fan one time.

[forest spruce]

I met a space wolves player in the wild. He smelled and looked exactly how you'd expect

[tacit void]

Randomly met some GK and Titan Legio fans out there once, they were chill

[forest spruce]

World eaters are either obxious gym Bros or chill mfers

There is no in-between

[unborn merlin]

No fr

[tall phoenix]

The worst/best part with the "they smell" thing is you always think its some exaggerated joke at first 💀

[forest spruce]

My sense of smell has never worked well and even I was overpowered

That space wolf blood claw from Lukas the trickster was a fairly accurate description

[snow siren]

Red flag yo

The Sharks bit, not the NL bit

[fickle scroll]

I just finished Apostle, wasn't the biggest fan

but that's probably due to my own expectations of how smart space marine are

[tall phoenix]

I mean even that varies

they arent exactly masterminds for the most part

[fickle scroll]

yeah, I expected the word beares to be experts in revolts

[broken yarrow]

Does anyone know the artist for this piece from the Only War: Hammer of the Imperium book?

[hybrid turtle]

i think they did pretty well considering there was only 2 of them

[potent warren]

its impossible to write a character smarter than you are

and i personally do not think the BL writers are geniuses or anything

[fringe thorn]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/wugetgtg/a-new-black-library-app-is-on-the-way-heres-what-you-need-to-know/

An app replacing the Black Library website. Also a special promo on the app between March 18 and April 20 that gives away selected eBooks and audio books.

[tall phoenix]

Adios my computer PDFs and epubs

[frigid osprey]

amazon removed the ability to download ebook files too

ultra 10000x SMH

[tall phoenix]

WHAT

[wide mica]

If only there was some form of physical media

https://klipy.com/gifs/book-school

[tall phoenix]

All books must burn.

[severe trail]

why are you like this

[tall phoenix]

Because im evil

[severe trail]

what did they ever do to you smh

[tall phoenix]

I thought we established this

[tall phoenix]

epubs are easier

[severe trail]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/GxdjtDdWIAA19YB.gif

[tall phoenix]

and less waiting on mail

[severe trail]

fair

[tall phoenix]

[wide mica]

That's a German tradition, not a Turkish one

[tall phoenix]

Too bad, hand it over

[wide mica]

https://klipy.com/gifs/no-i-dont-think-i-will-2

[severe trail]

https://tenor.com/view/live-firecat-firepunch-agni-firepunch-live-gif-26357939

[tacit void]

Fair enough, I am enjoying it. I guess though it is worth mentioning Cerastes is a relatively new recruit who managed to rapidly rise through the ranks.

[fickle scroll]

Ah, well he sure made progress, isn't he at like captain level now?

[tacit void]

Something like that, Dark Apostles are technically Chaplains but they do lead the host so uh...

[tacit void]

I'd say that's a good comparison yeah

Making it to First Acolyte in less than a 100 years iirc is pretty impressive

[fickle scroll]

Ah that explains the crucius

Could a specialist marine also become a leader? Like a apothecary or tech marine?

[tacit void]

Hmm

Possibly

But the usual format is Dark Apostle in charge, First Acolyte the successor, and the Coryphaus in charge of military affairs

[fickle scroll]

I meant this in general, not just for the WB

[fickle scroll]

Gotta delegate

[tacit void]

This would be pretty rare, without the specialist relinquishing his specialty to become the First Acolyte or Dark Apostle

[tacit void]

Oh

In the usual warband

Anything goes

Lmfao

[tacit void]

Defo ofc

[fickle scroll]

What about loyalists?

[tacit void]

Hmm

iirc usually not

They have their own jobs

Maybe they could lead a squad in an emergency

But usually no

[fickle scroll]

They just got into an argument and decided not to talk to each other anymore

[tacit void]

WB or DG?

[fickle scroll]

Both tbh

[tacit void]

Coz haha apt for Typhon and Mort

[tacit void]

We still have a legion though

[fickle scroll]

"You're not my real dad"

So they aren't fractured, just split up?

What makes them your favorite legion?

Th WB book was cool yeah, especially with the droptroops, and the sneaky transformation for that slave dude

It's also why I'm hyped for the Alpha legion Solomon stories, finally getting it in order

1v1 me bro

[tacit void]

Oh yah, interested to see how this whole Ghost Legion thing goes

[tacit void]

Sending 100 daemons to your location, teleporting away now

[fickle scroll]

It's surprises me how many traitor marines 1v1 a titan

I believe am Iron warrior did the same, or it was a knight

[tacit void]

Yeah he did

[tacit void]

First Captain Kydomor Forrix

[fickle scroll]

Yeah, Mr. Super logistics

[tacit void]

He went apeshit and destroyed a Warhound iirc

[fickle scroll]

And then died

[tacit void]

He found purpose again before dyin tho

So i guess it all worked out

[fickle scroll]

Speaking of Iron warriors, they had/have a freaking tyranid ship to transport their titans

[tacit void]

They did? Damn that's cool

[fickle scroll]

For sure, plus he didn't have to listen to Honsu's whining

[tacit void]

Better death than Kroeger too at least

[fickle scroll]

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/nw541v/excerpt_iron_warriors_by_graham_mcneill_the_iron/

[fickle scroll]

Absolutely

But the one I'm the most hyped to read more about is Kharn

[tacit void]

Eater of Worlds?

Ive heard good things about it

If you dm 30k Betrayer is very peak

[fickle scroll]

Didn't that armour becoming like a super duper blood demon? I remember it being in the Uriel books too as like "apostle of blood"

[tacit void]

Yeah something like that

[fickle scroll]

Yeah I read like 3 books about kharn

[tacit void]

The daemon inside got out of control kinda

[fickle scroll]

Just a tini tiny bit, and when it was released from his chains he destroyed 2 iron warrior armies single handedly

[tacit void]

Crazy

[fickle scroll]

Well it's anti psyker, and a blood demigod

Ain't nobody touching that

[tacit void]

Foolish to think that such things are easily controlled

[fickle scroll]

Tbf, it was very easy to control. Honsu just kicked it awake, said: "fyi there are psykers there, you should got get them" and off it went😂

[tacit void]

That's the way

Make it happy, give it what it wants

Always liked Honsou

[fickle scroll]

Well he does use his brain, which cannot be said of all the other traitor leaders

What I also like about black library books, sometimes they introduce the saving grace, the one thing that can make this situation into a win🎉, and then kill it off in the next sentence

[tacit void]

Same, it is best described as uh

Grimdark

[fickle scroll]

Hahaha yeah

"If this had happened like this, I'd have done nothing more than a tickle, however it has instead lead to a great unclean one spawning

Like the sabotage which came before ultramarines got outplayed by the WB

[tacit void]

Sorot Tchure killing that UM Luciel was peak

[fickle scroll]

"You know we have been friends forever right? Well surprise mf"

[shy lark]

Now that I've almost finished Apostle, it makes sense for him imo

[shy lark]

Not entirely sure what to make of it, didn't hate it at least

[hybrid turtle]

I liked it

But it kinda lost some score with the ending i think

[fickle scroll]

It was an understandable, but unfulfilling ending

[slow elm]

I’ve gone through gotrek and Felix book 1-5 in like 3 weeks

I MIGHT be addicted

Now starting vampireslawr

[drowsy urchin]

They're very very good

[tacit void]

King cooked

[drowsy urchin]

The latter books that aren't by King are very good as well, though King had that little something extra

[tacit void]

Idk i only read the King ones in me school library

[drowsy urchin]

I highly recommend the rest of the series as well

[fossil narwhal]

Finished Caves of Ice
Are Valhallan stormtroopers actually a thing?
I think I remember Stormtroopers were mentioned in "For the Emperor" too.

[shy lark]

Yeah regiments have their equivalent of stormtroopers

[fair epoch]

They were replaced by tempestus scions I thought

[severe trail]

No

Two seperate things

[storm kettle]

Gotrek and Felix shamanslayer was a pretty cool read. Was kinda sweet when ||Kat|| showed up. Then it got kinda weird

[fickle scroll]

It's been the 27th!!!! New books launched

[tall phoenix]

time to get my pre-orders YEET

raising my toast to a future without the BL site 😔

[forest spruce]

Sadness

Oh I can't find the new books on audible.....

[sage pelican]

Lmao
Began listening to Infinite and the Divine
"Trazyn slipped through the crack in Eldari formation that he made, making sure to step on a dead soldier"
Bloody gold

[fickle scroll]

Yeah it's fun, prank war leads to unexpected results

[runic root]

?

[tacit void]

The Black Library website is closing shop

There will be an app to replace it soon

[tall phoenix]

Riddler?

[tacit void]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-the-batman-gif-25393918

[runic root]

Will i have to make a new account or can i transfer the old one?

[fickle scroll]

I presume it uses the same user database

[fickle scroll]

Cause your BL account also has your ebooks

Well that works too yeah

[tacit void]

Here are the details

[shy lark]

Yea you can link your account to make everything transfer

[tacit void]

Id love to answer you but ill be real i use audible or the physical word so idk

[fickle scroll]

I use a Dutch website, cause I don't have a credit card

I only use the BL website to see what's new or what I want

[tacit void]

Same tbh

[fickle scroll]

The new Alpha legion book is fun, lots of sneaky bits

[fickle scroll]

I tell the bank i can't pay it back yet - CREDIT CARD DEBT

[plush kindle]

I can get you a new site but its mostly bara, but it'll do until you find another site hosting your BL

[tall phoenix]

[tall phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786208719200583710/1437832420756815993/Thanks_boss.gif

[hybrid turtle]

The BL in question

[forest spruce]

I'm sitting here fiending for the next ork book

[fickle scroll]

There are ork books?

[hybrid turtle]

yeah theres a bunch

mike brooks wrote a couple, theres the ghazkull book, the grotsnik book

[tacit void]

Nick Crowley wrote Prophet of the Waaagh

One of the best ones ive heard

And Flowers wrote some too

[tacit void]

He has an Ork Army so he's got that personal motivation

[hybrid turtle]

yeah the grotsnik book has a surprising amount of depth for orks

[fickle scroll]

And the red gobbo?

Is that any good?

[severe trail]

They’re fine

They’re much more 4fun books

Like way way way more 4fun

[wise yew]

has the best Excerpt out there too

[cloud dove]

LAWL

orc boy knows what a pelvis is, no clue about nether regions xD

[wise yew]

it's from a grot so it's much more humiliating actually

[cloud dove]

oh shit xD

[wise yew]

yeah Ikor

[unborn merlin]

They're pretty fun.

I choked up a little bit during Long Live Da Red Gobbo.

[hybrid turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/its-peak-old-man-shaking-head-gif-3938163323164042530

[drowsy stone]

Know No Fear was banger cause guilliman killed kor pheron

Fuck I hated kor pheron so much

[cloud dove]

listening to pilgrims of fire atm

and i gotta say i enjoy it mor then mark of the saint

mark of the saint feels like an unfinished story

[fair epoch]

Know no fear is a banger indeed

Mark of Calth too

[sonic walrus]

Death world any good?

[sonic walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/buster-nutcracker-gif-6553864001499678562

[tacit void]

Do you know that uh

No

Nevermind

[trail fog]

What book do you guys recomend me to buy for gift to my brother and try to attach him to w40k world, he doesn’t know a thing about w40k

[tacit void]

Eisenhorn, Gaunt's Ghosts, Ciaphas Cain

These above are series -es

Elemental Council, maybe Storm of Iron/WB Omnibus

[fair epoch]

An omnibus book: Gaunt's Ghosts, Eisenhorn, Hammer of the Emperor, The Grey Knights

[trail fog]

I guess i will go with Eisenhorn since i read tons of recomendation as initial books, i though about Horus but maybe it miss tons of information about world building

Thanks

[fair epoch]

At one point there was an Eisenhorn live action TV series being made

[tacit void]

Almost peak

[frigid osprey]

Peakenhorn

horus heresy is boring anyway

[severe trail]

Deathrider is good

The new krieg book

[tall phoenix]

Explain.

[shy lark]

no

but I agree

[tall phoenix]

I had high hopes the moment the author said he hates the krieg fandom

lol

[severe trail]

There’s a horse called Alice

Jokes aside the prose is very nice, it’s not just a krieg book

[tall phoenix]

Yeah im gonna turn you and it into glue

[tall phoenix]

Based, im glad hes sticking to his promise

[severe trail]

If you like weird obscure regiments there’s one in it

But yeah the book is good

[tall phoenix]

What is it

[severe trail]

Fen guard

[tall phoenix]

Lmao they arent obscure

they are literally in every Minka Lesk book

[severe trail]

Are they not lol?

[shy lark]

||Cadians||

[severe trail]

Oh

I forgot ngl

[tall phoenix]

😭

dont worry

you and everyone else

lmaoooo

[severe trail]

LOL

[cloud dove]

if i wanna learn more about the adepta sororitas, which books do i buy?

i have the audio books pilgrims of fire and mark of faith

[sonic walrus]

https://www.blacklibrary.com/series/Adepta-Sororitas

[celest heron]

You mean the ones that use... interesting heraldry?

[tall phoenix]

No lol, the fandom itself

the book is excellent apparently according to Elite/Sigsen which is even funnier

[celest heron]

Cant wait for the krieg calvalry class in darktide

[fickle scroll]

Speedruns the map

[drowsy urchin]

Finished Eisenhorn: Magos again and godDAMN I had forgotten how good it was. The first half especially.

The prose is so good

[cloud dove]

i really need to stop getting distracted by sororitas books and start eisenhorn ^^'

[muted cloak]

You might need to stop getting distracted by books and start painting your unpainted minis

[cloud dove]

dun have any ^^'

[fair epoch]

Does the eisenhorn series precede the ravenor series?

[drowsy urchin]

Yes, but Eisenhorn: Magos is after

[tall phoenix]

Reading the new Alpha Legion book and can confirm so far its very peak

[drowsy urchin]

Hell yeah

[tall phoenix]

puts the AL on a different footing where they gotta defend a small fiefdom they have from an entire imperial crusade force

[drowsy urchin]

Should I get that or Apostle next

[tall phoenix]

Uhh Apostle from what ive seen here and heard isnt that great

more 5/10 book it seems

[drowsy urchin]

Oh I thought people here liked it

[tall phoenix]

It was more "I liked it but could it better"

which havent read some of it i can agree with lol

[drowsy urchin]

Right

[tall phoenix]

Id suggest Ghost Legion as its more fun

Brooks being Brooks, though im biased

[drowsy urchin]

ye

[severe trail]

Almost done with ghost legion

It’s pretty good

I have some complaints but it’s fun

[tall phoenix]

What are they

spoiler them i gotta know

[shy lark]

Apostle isn't bad imo, a little too rushed

[tall phoenix]

Yeah the structure is just... weird

[shy lark]

I'd give it like a 6/7 in the end, probably 7

[tacit void]

I'd give it a 7

Its ok

Rushed

[tall phoenix]

7 is a good score i think. Its a good book but the narrative awkwarness makes it really faulty.

[tacit void]

Imperial POVs kinda lacking interestingness

Not enough of the uh

Apoth

Yeap

[shy lark]

yea

[tacit void]

I was pretty gleeful just to get the WB stuff when i was reading but now i kinda see better

But it was ok，i had fun

[shy lark]

Really likes the sororitas, proper Imperial that

[tacit void]

The whole Legitur Ecclesiarchy being scared shitless of them was kinda funny

[severe trail]

Nah you’d disagree with my complaints no offense LOL.

I don’t enjoy some of Brooks like stuff but it’s nothing like my issues with voidscarred

If that makes sense?

lol

[tacit void]

Apostle, but im biased

[tall phoenix]

Dont care lmao give em here

I gotta know them now, theres no backing out

[severe trail]

||I am mildly annoyed we get a kind of OC donut steel moment with someone so infamous the high lords know about them lol.||

[tall phoenix]

OOOOH THAT

I mean reminder

the high lords pass that kinda order constantly though?

We see it a lot in lore since most Assasins lore do have them go after "nobody" chaos lords.

[severe trail]

Yeah fair but imo it really feels like it doesn’t add much

anyways uhhh

Go my execution force obliterate some random person

[tall phoenix]

It does tbh, especially considering how they schwack him

||also ADAMUS MENTIONED LETS GOOOOO||

[severe trail]

||yeah I’m surprised tbh||

[tall phoenix]

||Same I thought it was a Callidus but that turned out to be the other lady lol, tho L Brooks for not making the Cally a guy boooo||

[celest heron]

||twinkidus||

[tall phoenix]

Lmao, dumbass

[celest heron]

Im assuming the krieger lost his lasgun

[tall phoenix]

hence the "improvised" bit

[celest heron]

Yup

[tall phoenix]

you can tell the author was smug af writing this bit

[celest heron]

Actual logic

[celest heron]

Yerp

I always felt like the shovel thing was stupid. As a trench enjoyer

[tall phoenix]

Considering they got literal daggers/clubs i agree

[celest heron]

Tbf the knife is likely attached to the gun

Unless you carry 2 knives which seems like a waste of resources

[round lily]

What are some good 40k era books? I'm going to be able to buy some in a few days and I need recommendations please.

[tall phoenix]

you mean like pre-rift?

or like current 40k

[round lily]

Either or really. All the books I have are Horus Heresy or Siege of Terra, with the exceptions of the Night Lord Omnibus, Son of the Forest, and The Infinite and the Divine.

[lofty thunder]

2 knives is just an insurance policy

[wide mica]

Read Outgunned, then Above and Beyond

[fickle scroll]

I like the airforce books, aeronautica

[celest heron]

Well no its a waste of resources

Gear is worth more than the man

[lofty thunder]

gear is also free if you just ignore looting policy

[fickle temple]

I feel like this book completely forgot that Bequin is a blank

I mean its sweet and all but like

Aren't they repulsive by sheer aura? like I see zero description of it after her first introduction

[tall phoenix]

thats just abnett being abnett

[fickle temple]

I thought so.

[tall phoenix]

Yeah you should see Eisenhorn, he constantly gets physical issues/things with him wrong lmao

[fickle temple]

no longer able to smile
only like 3 mentions of it after

Like. it feels like it should impact the story a bit more like now he just looks hard by default

poker face 24/7

like that has to be a plus status

especially for an inquisitor

[tall phoenix]

Yeah again its just Abnett largely not paying attention

[fickle temple]

Full luxary treatment I see.

A thing I've been wondering for a bit. Where does an Inquisitor land in terms of hierachy to a space marine? Like equal, lesser or greater? Ignoring HIgh inquisitors. I mean ones on Eisenhorns level or whatever the middle is for them

[tall phoenix]

ENTIRELY depends.

Inquisitors go as far as how much their authority works.

Eisenhorn for example would at best lead out of respect or seniority/gravitas.

But say if he was like Coteaz, a Lord Inquisitor? He would have an ENTIRE army at his back and his will alone could convince a Chapter to tag along with him otherwise risk being sussy af and get reprimanded.

Eisenhorn levels are basically "Look you gotta listen to me big man"

[fickle temple]

lmfao, nice.

[tall phoenix]

Yeah Eisenhorn is more intimidating if you are a normal imperial guy, but remember even as an Inquisitor he had to be careful with his noble enemies like those chaos worshipping ones because in one word they could have Eis executed and dumped somewhere.

[fickle temple]

They narrowly did yeah. ursiel couldve done worse. whatever his name was spelt.

||In fact he was actually thrown into a gladitator ring with a starved carnex||

forgot the name of those fucking big cats

tiger its a tiger for now

[tall phoenix]

MAULING!

also

https://klipy.com/gifs/fire-writing-4

LET HIM COOK

[tacit void]

Word Bearers Omnibus, Any Aeronautica Imperialis Book (Double Eagle, Interceptor City, Vagabond Squadron, Outgunned, Above and Beyond)
Eisenhorn, Ravenor, Bequin, Gaunt's Ghosts, Elemental Council, Twice Dead King Omnibus, The Dark Coil, Ciaphas Cain, Apostle, Lords of Silence, Fall of Cadia

Idk this what i read

[tall phoenix]

the Word propaganda is INSANE

(but these are pretty good books its true)

[tacit void]

I put a T'au book so its fair

[quaint canopy]

I cut Abnett some slack because for some reason Eisenhorn loves her. So clearly his views are supposed to be biased by that. Whether a psyker falling in love with a blank is likely to begin with, that's a different question.

[wide mica]

Also the repulsiveness of Blanks varies a lot in novels

[drowsy urchin]

I love Abnett but really think his addition of limiters is the worst thing he ever did

how does one limit something that doesn't exist

[wide mica]

Like in one there's a blank militarum officer who is beloved utterly by his men

No repulsiveness there

[drowsy urchin]

I suppose you could count such things to the underlings not being in physical proximity of him

because just knowing of one doesn't make them repulsed by their blankness, think you need physical proximity for it to work that way

[wide mica]

His Sgt is always with him and is also completely devoted

[drowsy urchin]

built different

but yeah

[wide mica]

Even the Psyker in the novel doesn't notice anything until they suddenly can't use their powers

[sonic walrus]

Blackstone

[drowsy urchin]

Blackstone is warp resistant, not blank cancelling

[high willow]

It can be tuned for psy-dampening or psy-amplification

[inner iris]

I've been reading the Dark Heresy books. The writing is pretty whack but the story is fine. Can recommend for people who like inquisition stuff.

Vaults of Terra probably still my favorite in that category.

[inner iris]

On paper an Inquisitor is truly in charge of everyone they meet, up to a space marine chapter master. The reality is much more complex. The imperium is, much like our own society, a place where your official authority only matters as much as your power to reinforce it.

[inner iris]

Yeah this annoyed me in the Eisenhorn books. Bequin is super off-putting for one chapter when she's first introduced, then it doesn't matter again for the entire series haha

[fickle temple]

ah so it aint just me

[inner iris]

Vaults of Terra, Shadowbreaker (and Deathwatch before it, although that's less good) Emperor's Gift I guess although my opinion of the book has decreased over time.

[fickle temple]

Like yeah the story reading scene is nice but really?

[inner iris]

Hahah

The Ravenor books are also decent but frequently drop major plot points.

[fickle temple]

I hate when that happens in stories

[inner iris]

I think abnett is one of the better writers in terms of sentence-to-sentence construction, but the overarching plot is really meandering.

[fickle temple]

Speaking of sentence to sentence

it can feel awkward sometimes

and Im not sure if I just have some bad reading skills but i feel it especially when theres at scale battles

[inner iris]

Meanwhile there are lots of stories with decent plots, but then randomly drop sentences like this:

"Wait. Something flickered in the trees, an eerie, unnatural light, like the faint phosphorescence around a putrefying corpse."

[fickle temple]

Oh my god exactly.

i can actually name an instance like that

[inner iris]

Yeah that's a big thing in Warhammer books. This is my conspiracy theory but I think they're required by GW to include a certain number of mentions of models, then they just dump them all into the combat scenes haha

There was a book I read named Pandorax where I'm pretty sure you could literally create an army list based on the first paragraph of the battle haha

It was like "two rhinos rolled over the hill, one equipped with optional flamer war gear, while a squadron of corvus black stars supported them over head. On their left flank were two regiments of guardsmen, each commanded by a commissar..." Etc etc

[tall phoenix]

Not a conspiracy, this is literally required.

These novels exist to be propaganda and get you to buy models.

[inner iris]

That makes sense then haha

[tall phoenix]

Lmao yeah

[inner iris]

Yeah it's literally paying 10 bucks for a 200 page ad

Warhammer fans literally built different.

[fickle temple]

"Heretic interceptors fell upon the stricken ship like carrion flies on a dying beast. " I mean I GUESS IT MAKES SENSE? since theres machine spirits in them...or something

[inner iris]

Hahaha

It's a sickness. I got into the hobby in late 2024 and I think I've read 18 Warhammer books since then

[fickle temple]

this is legitimately me sometimes

[inner iris]

And maybe like 3 normal books haha

I totally dropped any semblance of a normal life.

And of the 18 books I think I can say I enjoyed 5.

[fickle temple]

yeah I need some actual good literature. no actual shade just its a tiny headache to read at times.

[tall phoenix]

I must remind people as much as it sucks Black Library really doesnt make as much money as people believe and is very much a commercial vehicle.

Obviously this doesn't mean that every novel is propaganda like say Warhammer Crime where major factions are NEVER mentioned but even those serve to get you into 40k where from there you will be inevitably exposed to the models and just might get that forbidden apple sensation to bite it and buy one lol

[inner iris]

That's actually one of the better points about inquisition books. Very few models to shill haha

[tall phoenix]

Lmao exactly

Inquisition books instead make me wanna 40k homebrew instead which is better because I DONT waste money then.

[inner iris]

I've been thinking about getting an Inq 28 group together.

For that reason

[tall phoenix]

Highly recommend the effort, its fun

[inner iris]

Then everyone just needs one model, all the rules are free, and you get the best parts of the setting and stories from 40k and none of the waste.

[tall phoenix]

Yea which is more than what other plastic rabbithole you can fall down to

[inner iris]

Hahaha I unfortunately fell down that one too. I just play kill team and Ive probably spent over a thousand bucks on it 😭

Because I'm trying to kitbash all my teams into inquisition forces haha

ANYway this was all just to come in here and recommend Vaults of Terra

Literally no complaints after all 3 books. And normally I complain about a lot.

[plush kindle]

I have another suggestion

[inner iris]

Hahaha

I did actually do an inventory recently of all my imperial weirdos models to see if I could field them as venator

But then I started reading Necromunda rules and got overwhelmed. It's very flexible but that comes with a downside.

[plush kindle]

Valid tbh, it can be a bit insane how you have to be aware of a lot of factors. My group habitually forgets to make checks for getting shot on stairs and ramps lole

[inner iris]

It makes kill team seem very casual haha

[fickle temple]

have there been accounts of slave rebellions within the imperium

i mean of course there've been but is there any indepth lore

[tacit void]

Well...

Chaos or nah

[fickle temple]

mmm

nah preferably?

[tacit void]

Ok im broke

[fickle temple]

well shit lmfao

chaos then

[tacit void]

Ok so

Not really slaves but the underhive people basically live in hell anyway

They have an uprising in Apostle

Maybe there's more but im kinda woozy rn

[inner iris]

One of the big plot points in 40k stuff is that breaking with the imperium always ends in chaos. It's kinda how they set the stakes of the setting.

[tacit void]

Generally speaking yeah

There are exceptions

Like defecting to T'au

Or the Severan Dominate

[fickle temple]

whats that

[tacit void]

Some fuckass imperial govnuh went huron and declared independence

Tbh its basically a secession state not that far off from the Imperium anyway

[inner iris]

I actually think they could do it even more. There was a plot point in Emperor's Gift where ||a bunch of guardsmen are exposed to chaos during a battle and the inquisition declares that they should be purged. Yadda yadda yadda, the space wolves save them. I kinda wish they had showed the downside of that and it went on to propagate widespread chaos cults||

I think it ending the way it did felt really cheap

[fair epoch]

I kind of liked it. Don't piss off Logan Grimnar

[inner iris]

Haha I didn't mind that part. I just think the ending coulda been tighter

I didn't mind that part unlike most GK simps

I don't need GK to never lose

And I don't mind GK effectively being the bad guys in the story. I thought it was a cool way to constrain their role in the lore.

I just had issues with the end

I woulda preferred it if ||the main Inquisitor lady ended up killing the Inquisitor antagonist to show how mercurial and fallible the organization is, and then ultimately the antagonist gets proven right when it turns out there is a widespread threat of chaos||

[fair epoch]

That does sound better

[snow siren]

Chris Wraight’s Space Wolf books do continue the plot threads like

[mellow knot]

Not completely true. Studio has a big influence and sometimes books can be asked for to coincide with launches, but the existing model are there as a framework that you can’t really break out of too far.

[tall phoenix]

Yeah this is also why a lot of edition/campaign launch books generally suck.

Because they are very much written with a marketing perspective in mind and constant fingerpoint moments without leaving much meat in the plot that people can get much out from.

[inner iris]

Oh really? That's cool. I love the Chris wraight books I've read

Dunno if I'll ever read another factoon-specific book though. I was really disappointed in the GK omnibus and then I recently couldn't even finish the Exorcists book

Which is very unusual for me. I'll normally finish a book even if I totally hate it.

[tall phoenix]

Its probably because the books you listed just dont really have much happen in it, so just bad luck

[tall phoenix]

@severe trail Forgot to say but I finished Ghost Legion ||and you werent kidding about the Callidus, that fucking ending stinger 😭 ||

[severe trail]

YEP LOL

[tall phoenix]

I DO like how she was throughout the entire novel lamenting like

"This is a rushed job, our operatives usually can take to operate for months to years to get the job done"

that is really fucking clever lmao

Now shes actually in a position to do that which is neat.

[fickle scroll]

I liked the fact that because this war happened, the planet become more corrupted

But I did not expect a blooming Eversor to pop up, sad buddy died tho

I liked buddy and his sniping skills

[tall phoenix]

Yeah I was shocked an entire assassination force was here ngl

also it took me like until the end of the book to realize the communications lady was a Vanus assassin lol, i was like "wait why does she have metal tentacles"

[fickle scroll]

"Is she mechanicus??"

[fickle scroll]

How shitty is life when a whole war with multiple regiments is just a distraction to assassinate 1 space marine

[tall phoenix]

THAT WAS ME TOO

[fickle scroll]

Or rather, how big of a grudge must you hold

[tall phoenix]

Its not grudge its more that they know Akurra is a proper threat.

He was correct in that the biggest thing the Imperium fears is people knowing an alternative to their society exists.

[fickle scroll]

For the greater good

[tall phoenix]

Im sure a lot of "those kinds" of people will get upset by that message of the book but im glad Brooks did it

[fickle scroll]

And his accepting society got corrupted after the "good guys" attacked

Would all this make Akurra the only good guy in the universe?

[tall phoenix]

It didnt get corrupted really it always had that sinister tone beneath it.

[fickle scroll]

Well the epilogue did mention that going chaos actually isn't that bad

Or rather, "to follow the local gods" instead of the big E

[tall phoenix]

You gotta remember its from a biased perspective

not a 3rd person narrator where its actual fact

[fickle scroll]

Yeah yeah, but the catalyst for this was the imperium attacking

[tall phoenix]

Yeee basically but it was always gonna happen either way

they just sped it up essentially

[fickle scroll]

True

The blood pact are better trained than the alpha legion militia right?

[tall phoenix]

More or less i guess? Their advantage is they've constantly been in war

the Guns of Freedom are more like a guerilla force

[fickle scroll]

Ah okay, I felt they were too big for that

[tall phoenix]

ye the Pact fight on like several fronts and had time to grow

[fickle scroll]

Gotcha

Also, sending Krieg against the Alpha legion is kinda funny

It's a snake vs a battering ram

[tall phoenix]

Brooks shows them off really well too

they both get slaughetered but also somewhat get the job done-ish

[fickle scroll]

Hahaha we are winning.... waaaait a minute

https://tenor.com/view/wait-what-meme-wait-a-minute-gif-14484132

[tall phoenix]

Elite said before that the thing they did of "FIRE ON MY POSITION" is also a literal tabletop rule lol

[fickle scroll]

Oh god

I still think the faceless chapter is my favorite

"Watch me take out the leader" "uuuuuh who is the leader"

[tall phoenix]

That part was so fucking funny

especially when her idea at the end is "I'll just randomly kill them and also make them not trust their mortal servants"

ironic coming from a shapeshifter

[fickle scroll]

I loved how well used the schola progenium kiddos are. I read that mini book, and to see them show up was cool

[tall phoenix]

Gotta put good recruits to use lol

my favorite part is how he just takes them from there without anyone noticing

[snow siren]

Inquisitors tend to do that a lot, so I imagine it’s the norm

Teacher doing the register of a morning must be a nightmare

‘Okay we lost three to ridiculously dressed individuals who claim to be secretive, and gained 4 from the bald ridge head people…fine I guess’

[fickle scroll]

Still a profit

[fickle scroll]

So the mad doc is multiple orks in a orkcoat?

[forest spruce]

Who even is the mad doc anymore is he even himself

[severe trail]

Yes

[wise yew]

yes

[tacit void]

yes

[tall phoenix]

yes

[muted cloak]

yes

[hybrid turtle]

He replaced a lot of parts of himself so hes not quite the same mad dok

[muted cloak]

if the brain is still here it's still the same person

[fickle scroll]

The orc of theseus

[fickle temple]

It's fair to assume they promptly shot these things right

and not just sneaking past them

definitely just shot them dead

then at the same time

it not being spelled out annoys me a bit

[tall phoenix]

100% shot dead lol

[fickle temple]

yep

especially since they have a marine w them

[wide mica]

After seeing them, I want these things dead

[fickle temple]

thats not very nice

let my bugs be bugs

this book is such a mouthful

[frigid osprey]

its xenos by dan abnett! 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[fickle temple]

prolly cuz im tired of reading this book

This xenos species just is not that interesting ngl

[frigid osprey]

ya it does kind of tail off a bit

[fickle temple]

its all just ooo spooky scarey irregular shapes and scary colors

like bro. I get it. these guys are weird.

[shy lark]

what a hater

[fickle temple]

I'm not a hater I can only read so many goddamn pages of "The Saruthi are pretty weird" before I get exhausted.

[frigid osprey]

dan abnetts like how can i make these xenos as mindbendingly strange as possible

as over the top trippy shadow aliens

[fickle temple]

Yeah but at this point I feel like I'm having keys jangled in front of me

Just get to the goddamn point

[tall phoenix]

Tbh thats literally what it is

also if you think this is bad you should see his modern books

[fickle temple]

Nah man nah comeon..

its so wordy too

[tall phoenix]

Reminder that this is the same man who used the ancient egyptian word for lapis lazuli hysb-iryt to describe blue lightning

[fickle temple]

so pretentious

[tall phoenix]

Yeah agreed

it makes more sense once you learn he graduated from oxford lol

I love his writing but man does he yap a lot sometimes

[fickle temple]

like I would appreciate there being desciption on having a bolt pistol. Idk I think a heretic would either immediately duck for fuckin cover or focus fire in the direction of whoever turned their friend into a red fucking mist

That shit just makes people pop right?

I'm on the saruthi war fight

idk, I just find myself immediately imagining how much better this could actually be

like move on man

[frigid osprey]

the first half of xenos, maybe 2/3rds, i cant really remember, was very tight but it does lose focus a bit

[fickle temple]

kinda sucks at writing battles

i can imagine it but its boring

It looks cool but i would really like to get some substance out of this

how are the books after xenos

[tall phoenix]

I mean all the Eisenhorn books are pretty good?

if you dont like the wordy shit just skim imo

just eyeball any important sentences and kinda do it that way

its kinda how i put up with Abnett when he starts traddling off

[fickle temple]

fair

dont want to be aggrogant as I can be sometimes with reading

I'm also quite impatient i think

[tall phoenix]

Again when a descriptionary bit drags on just skim-read.

It makes it way easier to read, Abnett's writing is great its just the up-the-ass descriptionary stuff that can get really blegh

[fickle temple]

Yeah I find myself deep in there

might just start reading a few sentences on a page to get the full gist..

[tall phoenix]

Yep thats they way lol

[fickle temple]

I was not following the blank eyed man plot ngl

done

and

hmm

Takes me a long time to finish books. but at the start I found it quite nice

good beginning, and nice plotline of tracking down house glaw

I don't think I liked it very much, probably because its been a long ass time since I was half way through

then again my memory of the start is clear enough

a bit of a snoozer book for me

actually that brain wired detonator was pretty cool

[fickle temple]

Probably going to be forever before I get back to the eisenhorn series

[fickle scroll]

Understandable

[drowsy urchin]

Every book in the series is better than the one before it

quite literally

the series works like an opposite tier list

[cloud dove]

eisenhorn?

[drowsy urchin]

The whole Inquisition saga in fact

[simple ginkgo]

I haven't read the Bequin series yet, just the first 2 series, but I sorta wish Dan Abnett didn't make Gregor so abursdly powerful.

[cloud dove]

good to know, lookign forward to when i get there

[hybrid turtle]

Feels like dreadnoughts show up in dan abnett books just for the protagonist to aura farm by killing them

[simple ginkgo]

Characters just casually dying is another staple from him, I think 🥲😆

[wide mica]

Another Word Bearer novel?

[tacit void]

WOOOOHOOOO

[muted cloak]

could one call a word bearer unit a sentence bearer

and a word bearer detachment

a paragraph bearer ?

[tall phoenix]

bad news its by the guy who wrote Lords of Excess

so prob gonna be mid lol

[wide mica]

The biblical greed of a Word Bearer

[tacit void]

Please make it not mid

Let Abnett and Reynolds possess this man

[tall phoenix]

The worst part of 40k novels is paying money for them, reading them, then going "wow this book sucked"

[tacit void]

If it sucks

Itll be the 1st WB book i know of to suck

And i will be sad

[tall phoenix]

prob keep an eye on the word bearer subreddit when it comes out

I bought Ghost Legion after checking the AL subreddit reviews lol

[tacit void]

I will, ive been there for ages, i mostly trust em

As much as you can trust a word bearer

[frigid osprey]

i still maintain he's good but was held back or something with the Excess novel. the novella before it was good

[frigid osprey]

good, idk if u have the onnibus edition but the short stories are good too, i really loved the one with the weird long lame (Backcloth for a crown additional iirc)

[mental cobalt]

i lterally just saw this and came in here to find out more

[tall phoenix]

[fair epoch]

What are the best books involving tyranids

[tall phoenix]

• Blood Harvest
• Devilhunter
• The Convocation
• The Devouring Void
• The Long and Hungry Road
  While not books persay these are a collection of 4-5 short stories showing in a simple format whats it actually like to fight against Nids/What they kinda do

Id also suggest maybe Deathworlder where the entire book is a squad of guardsmen escaping a world thats already been won by the Tyranids, the book does a great job of showing how bad a planet gets once the Nids roll over everyone

[fair epoch]

Thank you

I've read a couple so far and they've heen bangers

Warriors of ultramar, helion rain

[tall phoenix]

Yeah Nids usually serve as antagonists because they dont really have characters

[fair epoch]

And one whose name I forgot. Imperial guard regiment stranded on a desert world

With the wrong gear

[tall phoenix]

I know the exact book you are talking about but even I forgot its name

[fair epoch]

Oh here we go, Desert Raiders

Lucien Soulban

[tall phoenix]

THATS the one lol

[severe trail]

this book is kind of mid to kind of bad ngl

[tall phoenix]

he siad he liked Warriors of Ultramar

so uh

[severe trail]

Oh

then this book will be fine to great

[tall phoenix]

LMAO exactly

im too critical so i really did not like this book but the funny thing is the tyranid bits in it are legit great

so its like ????

Usually its the complete opposite lol

[hybrid turtle]

The part where the hivemind talks to a servitor is really cool

[quaint canopy]

The prince yriel book also has some decent nids parts.

[tall phoenix]

Valedor yeah

[sonic walrus]

So what's good out of the new crop of 40/30k books?

[tall phoenix]

Kinda gotta be more specific lol

every new 40k book is some random thing

30k we got like 1

[snow siren]

I dont love many of them

They're exploring newer flavours of the same ideas (i.e. Chem Dogs)

But my preferred aspect is the behind the scenes stuff, Eisenhorn, Crime, Horror, Necromunda, away from the battlefields and into the actual civilisation of the Imperium

And they've taken a step back from that apparently

[tall phoenix]

They did try one with Coteaz but that book fucking sucks

otherwise yeah zero new Crime or Horror books, lame as hell

[snow siren]

was going to say, the last i remember was the Rogue Trader one?

[tall phoenix]

That one is also mid lmao

I finished it awhile ago and man its just... not really interesting

[simple ginkgo]

Been reading Warhammer Crime and it's quite good on the civilisation. I've only read a few though, Guy Halley's.

[tall phoenix]

Tbh it doesnt really matter, all the Crime books and anthologies are really good lol

so theres no bad choices

[sonic walrus]

Sorry, I should have specified, recent releases.

[tall phoenix]

No I know recent releases like which ones

all of them are extremely disconnected from each other

[tacit void]

Read Apostle, its fun, solid 7/10

[shy lark]

Death Rider was fun

[tall phoenix]

I clapped when they rode to their death

🏇

[sonic walrus]

Death rider, death of integrity, Apostle, valedor?

[tall phoenix]

• Death Rider: Peak
• Death of Integiry: Pretty good
• Apostle: Good
• Valedor: Pretty Good

we generally talk only about like good novels here since theres a lot of stinkers 💀

[snow siren]

I know it's AoS but i'm dying to get my hands on Abraxia

the AoS stuff is usual alright, the Chaos stuff is a lot of fun

[muted cloak]

Death Riders on tabletop are terrifying

melta lance

[sonic walrus]

I can't with this cover art

[tall phoenix]

read it

[shy lark]

I have to give this a -2

[runic root]

Buddy of mine is giving these away. Imma Grab the abnet one.

I dont have that one yet

[tall phoenix]

damn actual historical relics

[runic root]

He found those ages ago on the side of the road in a "free stuff" box.

So to keep the spirit he is giving them away for free

Since that is how he got them

[runic root]

They are only barely younger than me (i was born in '98 🫠)

#theevil30isapproachingsoonerandsooner

[spiral panther]

oh damn how is this going

havent been here in a while

[uneven crane]

Finally finished Day of Ascension, pretty fun read! I like how if you're absolutely unfamiliar with 40k as a whole, this mostly reads like a very black and white rebellion/uprising story, until you get closer to the end. I've got a few nitpicks with it, like with how these sort of books are structured in term of prose (sometimes it feels as though it has to rely on telling you rather than just showing you what's happening).

I love Triskellian, but I wish ||they did more with his arm being a GSC's. They do a bit with how he seems suddenly more lenient with the GSC, but I kinda wanted more than that.||

Otherwise very good book! I kinda wish we had more GSC centered stories. Or even stories centered around Davien, even though she doesn't have the most characterization.

[uneven crane]

People just hang out in here and talk about books, so decently

[spiral panther]

hell yeah

I'm on ashes of the imperium rn, its pretty alright

[uneven crane]

Nice nice

[tall phoenix]

yeah Day of Ascension is kinda praised because it is one of the only GSC centric books lol

i really love it for that reason though its thankfully a great read

the author definitely did his homework

[wide mica]

Burn them

[uneven crane]

Yeah, very fun when you see Davien ||continue to doubt what she is then flip a switch to suddenly not doubting anymore due to the brainwashing, and its all framed as though its an inspiring moment||

[tall phoenix]

Yeah its great, I do vouch for GSC because I just like seeing Imperials get killed so lol

[spiral panther]

you guys familiar with the bile trilogy?

[uneven crane]

Only know of it due to Bile's atheist(?) quote about Slaanesh and that's really it for me

[spiral panther]

When I finished all 3 plus genefather i unironically got to love him as a character

recommendation from me

[tall phoenix]

"unironically"

you would love him either way

hes a hilarious and fun character

[spiral panther]

hes great yeah, but i didnt have much indepth knowledge into his character beforehand

[tall phoenix]

Its one of the reasons why his trilogy is universally praised even if the author had a falling out with GW after the final book

[spiral panther]

reynolds had a falling out with GW?

Whys that?

[tall phoenix]

He is entirely responsible for giving Bile character beyond "generic evil scientist" and he also just kinda had a long history with BL shutting down his novel ideas, he made an entire twitter post about it and the list was massive. So it was that + coupled with them not allowing him to kill Bile at the end of the series.

[tacit void]

Sad, Apocalypse was good shit

I'd wish he could write more and BL would idfk let ts man cook

[tall phoenix]

Yeah it was just years of frustration culminating with the end of Book 3 for Bile

[spiral panther]

isnt the whole thing that the original bile died centuries ago already

technically

if you go by his own words

[tall phoenix]

I mean

[tacit void]

Yeah the clone bodies and all

[tall phoenix]

hes still alive

and the same person

so his deaths dont really matter

[tacit void]

But its still Bile yeah

[tall phoenix]

^

it makes the point moot, he wanted him to die permanently and pay for his crimes basically

[spiral panther]

i think its like, if i die rn and transfer my personality into a clone, it wont be me

[celest heron]

The ship of Bilesius

[tacit void]

Based

[spiral panther]

i think thats what he was going for

[tall phoenix]

It would tbh

thats more a philosophical thing

Its not "you" if like its a completely different person

[spiral panther]

no as in like, I wouldnt be there, it would still be me, but not the me rn

idk how to explain it

[tall phoenix]

Like i said its too philosophical lmao

but its basically still the same Bile really

[spiral panther]

yeah no defenitely the same guy

[tall phoenix]

people bring up the Theseus thing a lot but that doesnt really matter when the character acts the exact same in a story

its like sitting down and going "Why are we here?"

Like man idfk who cares lol

[spiral panther]

i gotta say guy haley did good on continuing on bile tho

i think he pretty much hit what reynolds intended in genefather

[tall phoenix]

More or less, I still like that Bile is evil but is not one dimensional-ish

i really appreciate him showing respect to Cawl and not killing Primus when he begs him not to

and gives him his word he wont do anything as long as Cawl lets him escape etc

[spiral panther]

Alpha Primus got sacked wild though

[tall phoenix]

Hes a superhero hes fine

[spiral panther]

hes gonna do something completely insane in a future book

he got close in his silent king appearance

[celest heron]

He ends up killing guilliman

[spiral panther]

id also like to mention that in silent king they make it obvious that the necrons arent just any xenos race, theyre actually a problem

loved that

[spiral panther]

me waiting 2 years now for him and the lion to meet

they brought the lion back, made one book, then radio silence besides some mentions in new editions

mildly upsetting im ngl

[tall phoenix]

I mean

the setting isnt about primarchs

[runic root]

But hwuey?

[tall phoenix]

They'll get their superhero slop narrative soon

just be patient

[celest heron]

Yeah just saying primus killing guilliman would be funny