40k-book-club

[severe trail]

I’ve never read that omnibus I’m going to be honest here

[valid jay]

Man infinite and divine has quickly become my favorite book, and ive just git to act 4

[tall phoenix]

That book basically shook the foundation of xenos novels in general from how popular it got so that checks out lol

[valid jay]

Its got everything, at the end of act 3 when ||it seems like orikan and trazyn are finally getting along and orikan accuses trazyn of being the one to throw him into biotransferrance to which trazyn seem genuinely upset by and apologizes to orikan, even if he cant remember it. And then orikan listening to vishani and taking the gem from trazyn, betraying him||

Pure cinema

[tall phoenix]

And the best part is it perfectly fits their characters

at the end of the day both of them are arrogant assholes

[runic root]

I want a book where sicarius meets trazyn and realizes that there is a whole 'nother level of arrogant douchebaggery he will never live the eons for to unlock

Like the same vibes Ventris had with the c'tan shard of the nightbringer, but instead of the eldritch horror of death and destruction its the aggrevating level of condescending arrogance that shatters catos ego fully

A man can dream

[valid jay]

I think orikan and trazyns entire relationship boils down to "I despise you, but that doesnt mean i dont respect you"

[tall phoenix]

They are pretty gay its true

[forest spruce]

Cato already has PTSD he's been shattered

[runic root]

Not enough

Still havent forgiven him for what he did to my beloved Uriel Ventris

[mental cobalt]

Okay when grammaticus used enuncia on horus, that was pretty fucking cool

Abnett likes using enuncia in his books from what I can tell and I'm all for it

It gives humans a good chance against daemons and astartes

[inner iris]

The use of Enuncia in the second Ravenor book was cool

But then they dropped it for like no reason

It wasn't used in the third book at all iirc

[mental cobalt]

i got like 30 pages left of end and death vol 3

then i'll start the outgunned series

[tall phoenix]

[kindred yacht]

do certain personalities have uniqe voice lines based one the weapon they are using?

like fanatic using flamer

male judge using thammer

fem loner using bb

are there more?

[hearty niche]

reading the fall of cadia before reading any of the horus heresy is a tad confusing

[tall phoenix]

Fall of Cadia has nothing to do with the Horus Heresy

[hearty niche]

maybe it’s just me being new to warhammer in general

[tall phoenix]

Yeah Fall has nothing to do with HH dont worry about it

any question you got do ask here though, you are reading about one of the most important events in the setting

[hearty niche]

i’ve been having a lot of fun with it after reading a bunch of random necromunda books i got for free lol

[tall phoenix]

based as hell

Munda is great lol

[forest spruce]

The fall is great

[hearty niche]

got 5-6 books for free from my local warhammer manager cause he’s awesome and i already like the hive city setting so it worked out well

darktide was what got me into warhammer so he hooked me up

[tall phoenix]

Very good choice of intro yeah

[runic root]

Completley besides topic, i went to a turkish restaurant/bakery today....

I weigh aprox. 2 metric tonnes more now

Worth it.
Delicious

[hearty niche]

extra rashuns

[runic root]

Extra tasty rashuns

[hearty niche]

aven’t eaten a “turkey” before sah

[mental cobalt]

do more robert rath books

assassinorum kingmaker for sure

[hearty niche]

what abt the gay necrons

darn autocorrect

[tall phoenix]

What about em

[hearty niche]

that’s a robert rath series right

[tall phoenix]

Yep.

[runic root]

Tastes guud pal

Turkish food is delish

And omfg the pastries 😋

[kindred tendon]

Hi, my friend is getting into warhammer for the first time ever

They love reading, and prefer that to anything else. I was wondering what’s the first book or book series i should get them to try.

I saw recommendations for the Eisenhorn series, but I’d like more opinions

[drowsy urchin]

Does the friend have any knowledge at all like a preferred faction or character

[wise yew]

the thing is with warhammer

You could literally read any book and you would just be set on getting into the setting

[kindred tendon]

Zero

Like first book ever

[wise yew]

hmm

[kindred tendon]

She saw a video

But thats about it

[wise yew]

what trope do they like in fiction

[kindred tendon]

Tragedy-worldbuilding is their big thing

Maybe romance a little

[drowsy urchin]

Yeah there's a lot else to WH than just the books, I figured they'd might know something about from youtube or games etc

[kindred tendon]

Preferably if its 1 book rather than three that would also help.

[wise yew]

hmm

and does she have any type of favorite faction in a fictional setting

[kindred tendon]

No preference, I just assumed the imperium would have the most worldbuilding in their books.

[drowsy urchin]

pinned messages has a list of good starter options as well

[wise yew]

which one in the pinned messages has the best world building then

Probably her best bet if she loves that stuff

[drowsy urchin]

Valdor: The Birth of the Imperium is a one off and involves a lot of stuff about the .. well, the start of the imperium pre-heresy

but that's not really a great book just for 40k

[severe trail]

Assasinorum Kingmaker

[tall phoenix]

Guys I got tragic news to share

Clad got banned 😔

[odd skiff]

The Last Church and then
Valdor:Birth of the Imperium

These are the very first books in chronological order

Infact

Here’s a full chronological guide excluding 40K but it they want to do chronological 40K is last anyways. https://rateyourmusic.com/list/Tymell/the-horus-heresy-series-a-chronological-reading-guide/1/

[drowsy urchin]

Oh he was a #general regular, figures

[tall phoenix]

Yeah speaking of #general he got banned for that reason

bro was advocating for western colonialism and it kinda went off the deep-end

[drowsy urchin]

Yeah I saw the messages

[tall phoenix]

YEP

[wise yew]

i know he had very shit opinions but i didn't know it would be that SHIT

[odd skiff]

Bro thought my country colonising him again would be a good idea💀

I think he wants an end to the wars other there but western and British colonialism again isn’t the answer.

[reef nacelle]

I thought Dilara had finally snapped over another book opinion

[odd skiff]

Bans me for suggesting anyone should read Horus heresy

[wise yew]

to be fair just about everyone here would absolutely hit him with an rko any chance they get

[tall phoenix]

He was funny sure but like

theres very much a limit lol

[wise yew]

i don't think that's even funny that's just stupid

like what is yammering

[odd skiff]

Didn’t really expect that from someone from Jordan if he is actually from Jordan

[tall phoenix]

I mean

he lied about being deaf on forums

so who knows lol

[wise yew]

That explains why he can't hear himself out

[odd skiff]

I mean I can see how living in war 24/7 and seeing the west going about their lives can provoke the thought of maybe if we were with them we would have peace but as history has shown western colonialism and more specifically British colonialism was not always at the benefit of the colonised.

[wise yew]

Gonna be honest though I expected him to crack sooner or later

He was getting pressed over the most minor of things

[tall phoenix]

Its also never about the place

its about the people

and no matter your affiliation human beings always suck when it comes to regarding national affairs lol

[wise yew]

Well look at the bright side at least we won't have anyone saying we're wrong in our opinion because he thinks he's right much anymore

[shy lark]

I will pick up the mantle of #1 legion hater 🫡

[tall phoenix]

Not on my watch.

🫡

[wise yew]

very well you must suffer

[shy lark]

I don't know what that is I can't read

[wise yew]

You truly are taking the legion hater mantle

[odd skiff]

Sir John Grammaticus solos the alpha legion

[quaint canopy]

Understatement of the century 😂

[cerulean peak]

🫡

He will live on through the memes

[wide mica]

If I had a penny for every time someone in this server did that I’d have an alarming number of pennies

[cerulean peak]

One last time

[kindred tendon]

Why did he hate the book so much?

[drowsy urchin]

he can't read mostly

I think it boiled down to not being able to get past the first chapter because Abnett can't write according to him or something

[wise yew]

Yeah apparently he just found it so like not that good that he just decided not to read and hate the rest of the book off of that

so like he wasn't even hating the book properly

[tall phoenix]

Also using some arabic/islamic words and re-purposing them for some Imperial Army ranks, but in a "WHY ARE YOU USING THIS WORD???? STOP IT!!!!" to an unhinged level.

I said it before but his opinion on the book is meaningless since as Jerk said he didnt even make it past Chapter 1 lol

[wise yew]

It's also funny because literally everyone on the chat makes fun of him for it

Like wait you hate legion but you didn't even get past the first chapter

for someone to hate a book that much you have expected them to read the whole thing

[kindred tendon]

Out of all the warhammer discords ive joined (40k and aos) this seems to be the most active in terms of actual lore.

I’ll be swooping around here more often.

Been watching too much youtube and not enough reading.

[tall phoenix]

Feel free to drop in lore chat as well

[wise yew]

just word of warning we can talk on some of the most random topics in the world so if you decide to to show up and see how we're talking about how how mutating a salmon into Godzilla would make Czechoslovakia return

that's just normal

[kindred tendon]

I’m pretty brainrotted so ill fit right in

[wise yew]

Good we're already getting along

[cerulean peak]

I couldn't get past Thousand Sons chapter 2

[cerulean peak]

I know

[wise yew]

Yeah but you're not Pagliacci #1 Thousand Sons hater

[drowsy urchin]

though if you had the audio version, the narrator was pretty bad for that one

[cerulean peak]

I haven't skipped the book yet

Just paused my reading

The difference between me and clad is that he skips a book because he can't read and I skip it because it's boring

[tall phoenix]

^

Also like

Thousand Sons is really not that great

its at best pretty mid

[drowsy urchin]

Prospero Burns is the better of the two

[tall phoenix]

^^^^^^

[cerulean peak]

I'm enjoying my night lord omnibus first

[wise yew]

when he said he does not read rule books for lore that then and there

I knew he could never be trusted

[reef nacelle]

I'm not reading rule books

[hearty niche]

i want to read this so bad, is it worth reading if you’re new to warhammer books

[tall phoenix]

Extremely 10000%

its one of THE most praised warhammer books, especially as a trilogy

[drowsy urchin]

you probably shouldn't

this may happen

[cerulean peak]

It's really good and accessible even without prior warhammer knowledge

[digital ether]

Still reading it atm, this meme is absolutely correct.

[shy lark]

I have an associate who to this day insists the night lords aren't chaos tainted because of those novels

that's the only downside of them

[digital ether]

Delusion 100

[reef nacelle]

Did they read the novels?

[kindred tendon]

My audible is a mess right now

But i will finish horus rising

[shy lark]

yea several times which is what puzzles me

[reef nacelle]

[kindred tendon]

Wait actually

There’s a really good AoS core book that has a ton of worldbuilding (big picture summaries of every faction)

Does 40k have a similair like 10th or 9th edition book that’s massive and full of the same thing?

[reef nacelle]

Not sure about every faction. Frankly there aren't enough xenos books to cover that

But Dawn of fire covers a lot of the imperiums pov

[kindred tendon]

It doesn’t just have like one or two pages that give a tyranid/eldar/ork summary and whatnot?

[reef nacelle]

It however means reading the dawn of fire series

[reef nacelle]

All the different rule books I guess

[odd skiff]

Descent of Angels, Fallen Angels and Angels of Caliban. are the absolute peak warhammer book experience.

There I said it.

Hate me if you will.

[reef nacelle]

Nice to hear an unbiased opinion

[runic root]

I never made it past the first page

[runic root]

Those books are bangers

Every page a masterpiece

[kindred tendon]

Yah i looked it up it does, it has a short summary of all the factions you can play in them.

The core book for AoS was the first thing i read to get a big picture summary on what’s going on.

Probably will do the same

[cerulean peak]

Talos is litterally despising his brothers' corruption

The exalted, Uzas and many more

[runic root]

Imma miss clad throwing hands with Dilara and everyone else

But on a server that has "no politics" in its rules advocating for colonialism isnt a survivable idea....

[tall phoenix]

Yeah core rulebooks do that a lot

basically an in-universe summary followed by summarizing all the other factions

AOS is usually more detailed since every faction gets more of their share of the cake compared to 40k

[digital ether]

Absolute yikes take from Clad.

Can’t believe some people actually advocate for colonialism 2, electric boogaloo.

[runic root]

Eh, imma leave the normative sorting of that take to the conscience of every individual.

Fact is, that the rules forbid talking politics, and he did. Case closed

[digital ether]

Fair. Then again, I’m not surprised people still spew abhorrent nonsense like that. Barely anyone looks back at the lessons of history nowadays.

[hearty niche]

is it difficult to get? i might read the first three HH books first since my birthday is coming up

[tall phoenix]

Colonialism is bad.

This is a very simple subject that doesnt need much expanding on lol

hes also been logged as saying some really wild iffy shit beforehand so

[digital ether]

Literally look anywhere in the world where colonialism took root, and the first reaction should be: that it was messed up.

[digital ether]

Good riddance I say we don’t need colonialism-apologists in this day and age.

[tall phoenix]

Its a warhammer server so people with awful IRL takes are always abound (we literally had an anti-vax conspiracy nut yesterday lol) so agreed

[cerulean peak]

It's one of black library's in print staple I think

Less than 22 maple bucks for Three books+ short stories

Pretty good deal

[hearty niche]

hell yeah thank you 🤞 will have to buy next time i get paid

night lords and death guard are very fun to paint so having and reading the books is awesome

[odd skiff]

Those anti vaxxers may be right you know

Look at the Covid jabs

[tall phoenix]

[odd skiff]

[cerulean peak]

You should always be listening to the black templars fan

[wise yew]

Equivalent of

You should always be shooting yourself in the foot with a 50 cal

[odd skiff]

Covid vaccine did more harm than good homie

[quaint canopy]

You have yet to learn not to play with fire, huh? 😆

[odd skiff]

No I’ve simply just seen first hand what complications from such vaccines do to someone.

If you want to trust the pharmaceutical companies whose entire business lives on you being sick then go ahead.

[tall phoenix]

Yeah not touching that topic lol

[odd skiff]

Okok

[lofty thunder]

Wait we finally got a legit reason to nail clad

[quaint canopy]

Don't forget to never wash your hands. It makes you less of a man.

[odd skiff]

Don’t be silly.

[quaint canopy]

I'm dead serious. Aren't you?

[odd skiff]

I think you may need to go wash your hands.

[tall phoenix]

Gonna catch the walking pox

[digital ether]

Sure they did, Typhus

I see through your tricks.

[tall phoenix]

Yeah uh he went on a really weird imperialist tirade, nothing new lol

I had no idea he was this unhinged

[odd skiff]

Death guard cultist irl💀

[tall phoenix]

Considering GW literally did nurgle memes with covid it aint too far 💀

[severe trail]

the anti vax nurgle cultists

all melting into a fucking puddle

[uneven crane]

Now touch your face, put a couple fingers into your mouth even

[digital ether]

Average anti-vaxxer

[odd skiff]

Yes mr pharmaceutical company who’s entire business is making money off of the sick, I fully trust you to heal the illness instead of treating its symptoms or just making it worse.

[digital ether]

You cannot be serious pal

[tall phoenix]

Alright guys please lets not 💀

[digital ether]

Okay, sorry boss

[odd skiff]

Me apologise Dilara

[tall phoenix]

[uneven crane]

I would've said something earlier but I will hold my tongue

[runic root]

Best book recommendation for fleet combat?

[digital ether]

Well, it’s a book that contains a bunch of short stories, but Heralds of the Siege has one short story with some good bits of fleet combat. I think it was called Dark Compliance.

Other than that, I can’t help unfortunately.

[runic root]

I'll add it to the list

Thx

[digital ether]

Yeah pal

[kindred tendon]

Please tell me what book this is from

Who drew this abomination

[wise yew]

https://tenor.com/view/turkey-bitch-simon-cowell-laser-eyes-gif-15634652

did you just ask about age of sigmar

[kindred tendon]

I play age of sigmar

[wise yew]

Well specifically this is a putrid blight king

[kindred tendon]

Oh

Shouldve known

[wise yew]

It's from champions of chaos

The soul bound role-playing game

[kindred tendon]

I need to get that book

Never played soulbound before

[wise yew]

well good lucky you champions of chaos is standalone but right now it still needs some fixing

[digital ether]

Hell yeah pal, nice painting right there.

I’ve got to stop procrastinating and paint my Bretonnians

[kindred tendon]

Thanks, i haven’t touched them in like 5 months

Idk what happened

[runic root]

aLL Is DuSt

Thats what happend

[mental cobalt]

Samus exist because of loken...

LILEAN CHASE WAS THE ARCHIVIST???

I literally said WTF out loud

Now this leads me to believe she was probably a better person than I originally thought when reading eisenhorn/ravenor/bequin

[tall phoenix]

I hate those bits

literally just random ass marvel namedrops lol

"UHM AKSHUALLY, MY NAME IS MEPHISTO"

[mental cobalt]

i love that i finally know lilean chase 😌

and now i wonder if we get more basili fo

or keeler

[tall phoenix]

💀

[runic root]

I want more Kiril synderman, after the Horus heresy, when he became an inquisitor living for hundreds of years. I wanna see the fucked up mental gymnastics of being in love with the Imperial truth to becomming an emperor loving secret state police chief.

Also, so funny how he accidentially summoned a daemon by reading sigils and words aloud from lorgars parchment papers on his armor on a pic that shows lorgar when he supposedly still was loyal 💀

[brittle tapir]

*thousands of years

he's probably the oldest living normal human in the setting all because of beast lore

which for some inexplicable reason brought him back just to die afterwards

[mental cobalt]

wait are there more books involving sindermann

[brittle tapir]

the lexi has a bunch listed in the reference portion of his page

[mental cobalt]

i looking now

maybe i do the beast arises series as my first audiobook

[odd skiff]

Do Descent of Angels

Specifically the audiobook😁

[mental cobalt]

have the paperback

[odd skiff]

Dang you miss out the Arthurian knights as fuck prelude music but fair enough

[runic root]

Bruh loves the Dorkangels so much he can probably quote son of the forrest verbatim page for page

[odd skiff]

Caliban within, caliban without.

[runic root]

I want the shrooms GW was smoking when war of the beast was written

[runic root]

Caliban fucking broke apart mate... Does your soul need a bandaid? 😘😜

[odd skiff]

Caliban stands

Or something

[runic root]

The planet broke before the secrets did 🤦🏻🙄

[runic root]

Yeah, i forgor. And then he dies of armor coolant poisoning.... Talk about fucking inglorious

[sonic walrus]

Those poor calabians

[reef nacelle]

Do not worry, they re-assembled Caliban

[odd skiff]

Caliban never dies

It lives in the hearts and minds of all sons of caliban

[reef nacelle]

Probably not a good thing with all the chaos corruption

[odd skiff]

Doesn’t exist

It was all a fabrication

[reef nacelle]

It's a

Secret

[sonic walrus]

Why they break Calibre in the first place?

[tall phoenix]

Long story

[reef nacelle]

Something something Chaos

[sonic walrus]

Cows did this?

[reef nacelle]

Yes

[sonic walrus]

🤯

[reef nacelle]

Chaos corrupted cows

[odd skiff]

It was the methane from the overproduction of new cows after all the beasts were killed.

[sonic walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/cow-hell-cow-level-bovine-gif-15155554

[mental cobalt]

Read the trial of lucille von shard

really sets the tone for her

[tall phoenix]

Shes a total cunt

I love it

now onto the actual book

[mental cobalt]

[mental cobalt]

These propagandists willingly turned themselves into servo skulls to keep serving the imperium???

[severe trail]

Well it’s not their brain in it

lol

It’s just their skull

[mental cobalt]

So no part of them remains that would make them them

[tall phoenix]

Yes.

its the Imperium, why is this shocking

[mental cobalt]

i shocked they chose it

[final adder]

Correct

The concept of eternal service is highly valued in the imperium's culture. So being made into a servo skull after your death is considered an immense honor

[sonic walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-gif-18896366

[ancient sierra]

I wanna know more about Tzeench and his daemons
Any suggestions for what I should read?

[reef nacelle]

The Reverie by Peter Fehervari has some Tzeench shenanigans

Won't necessarily tell you much about the Daemons as such, though its better that way imo

[smoky bronze]

The skulls in servo skulls are there as, essentially, relics of important people. The skull itself usually only houses cogitators and sensors and stuff not a servitor brain or the like

[smoky bronze]

Its like putting a saint bone in a gilded box only its some honorable bureaucrat being used as a laptop shell

[mental cobalt]

ty

[forest spruce]

9 more days

https://tenor.com/view/need-coffee-family-guy-gif-11023915

[tall phoenix]

I need my books

need to.... need to read Shorts... that will make it pass

[mental cobalt]

what comes out in 9 days???

[final adder]

The rapture

[mental cobalt]

who the author

[odd skiff]

Seth Rogan.

[tall phoenix]

Mostly some of the newer novels like Tomb World, Remnant Blade and Voidscarred.

https://www.blacklibrary.com/prod-home/new

[mental cobalt]

i'm on chapter 10 of Outgunned

fuck Lucille's commisar brother right off the bat

"don't let her drag down the rest of us down, her failings are her own"

[tall phoenix]

Not wrong

[frigid osprey]

hope voidscarred is good, id actually be up for getting that one

[tall phoenix]

Its Brooks so its bound to be

[wide mica]

I accidentally ordered it twice, thankfully the shop contacted me and was like "did you mean to do this?" And refunded it when I said no.

[tall phoenix]

😔

[weak basin]

Hello book people

I am new to 40k lore, and Im looking for something specific

are there any good books that are from POV of people that are being influenced by chaos actively, and maybe they try to resist

Just something more psychological rather than action

[tall phoenix]

Requiem Infernal or Sea of Souls would be my recommendations

[cerulean peak]

That one guy in the first word bearer book

[severe trail]

Requiem infernal, and sea of souls,

Also warhammer horror has some chaos stuff that might interest you.

[vale wren]

the tharador yeng storyline in DoF is moderately interesting, about rising through the ranks of a chaos cult

but she's not really resisting and it's not a convenient read

[severe trail]

Yeah

[quaint canopy]

Eisenhorn novels have that perspective to some extent.

[shy lark]

The House of Night and Chain ☝️ 🤓

[weak basin]

Wow thanks guys 🙂

[tall phoenix]

[reef nacelle]

The Reverie

Can be got in one of the horror anthologies

[final adder]

They should make a warhammer crime book in the style of a classic noir detective story with an arbitrator as the main character lol

[odd skiff]

Luther: first of the fallen

Cypher: Lord of the fallen

[dense gull]

Is there any books about the arbites

[severe trail]

The Shira Calpurn books. They’re a bit old but her like books are the only real arbite focused books ever

[quaint canopy]

The interrogator series on warhammer+ is definitely noire.

[drowsy urchin]

The first Eisenhorn book feels a lot like one as well

[noble jungle]

There is a whole Warhammer Crime series of novels which don't feature Arbitrators but local lex enforcers. Highly recommend them. My favorite is Bloodlines.

[tall phoenix]

Yeah that description he said is literally what happens in most of the novels lol

the character just isnt an arbites just an investigator enforcer

[odd skiff]

What is the series called?

I’d really be into a noire detective story

[severe trail]

Warhammer crime

[odd skiff]

Ah lol

[thorny sand]

picked this up from Barnes & Nobles today

legendary find

[brittle tapir]

the barnes and nobles in florida where i got my first 40k book i remember the war of the beast omnibus being there but because the cover was literally melting i decided to get gaunt's ghosts instead

[mighty holly]

Another good book is my favorite is Dan Abnett The WarMaster

[tall phoenix]

Warmaster is pretty neat

[mighty holly]

It is my second warhammer book

The first one was a black libary from way back when

[tall phoenix]

[mighty holly]

It was a collection of different stories in my black libary, I gotta find it

[hearty niche]

just got so many 40k books in the mail

ravenor, first 3 horus heresy books, grey knights omnibus, broken crusade, the founding

[runic root]

💸

[mental cobalt]

@tall phoenix does the green storm fortress thingy transport people through the warp?

[tall phoenix]

You finished the book?

[mental cobalt]

I just finished the chapter of shard flying them into the storm and discovering the ork fortress

[tall phoenix]

then keep reading you'll find out

[mental cobalt]

SO IT did teleport them using the warp, it was just so bad cause there were no geller fields

[forest spruce]

that sounds horrific

0/10 in fact

[tall phoenix]

bad user experience

[runic root]

Sounds like a skillissue on the humans part

[forest spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-spy-steals-your-meme-gif-5533659929391063079

[mental cobalt]

@tall phoenixFinished outgunned, def worth it

[tall phoenix]

Told you so!

however if you think it doesnt explore Shard too much then buckle up for the next 2 short stories + Above and Beyond.

[mental cobalt]

i'm buying above and beyond, elemental council. and son of the forest rn. Will probably do son of the forest before the next shard book

[tall phoenix]

Outgunned is great but id very much consider it an Appetiser book, Above is where shit gets real.

Also extremely good choice of 3 books

[mental cobalt]

i also wonder about the isha's needle plant that infected this world

[tall phoenix]

So it doesnt really get any followup, its basically just a neat bit of background worldbuilding and to show how stupid the governor is lol

it makes it funnier when you see it grow out of control

[mental cobalt]

yea i looked it up after i read it and was like "this is new"

[tall phoenix]

Yeah its the classic 40k thing

aka author makes up shit for the book

and they are usually cool stuff lol

[mental cobalt]

i enjoyed it

[tall phoenix]

Yeee its great

but you got your reading-order so i hope you enjoy the next Shardventure when you get to it

[mental cobalt]

I will 😌

[frigid osprey]

bought Voidscarred yesterday yall

it's 🔥 so far

[tall phoenix]

What part are you at

[frigid osprey]

oh quote early on

quite

[tall phoenix]

Damn.

[hearty niche]

just finished fall of cadia yesterday, the last 100 pages or so had my toes curling in anxiety

[drowsy urchin]

it's great

[hearty niche]

poor hellsker dude

and morkath

[digital ether]

Me when Hellsker reads the poem on the evac dropship:

Haven’t shed manly tears since reading Saturnine

[shy lark]

ok i finished voidscarred
Good to have two whole good Eldar novels

[tall phoenix]

Yeah its very fun

and pretty gay too

[shy lark]

swashbuckling with their dongers

[tall phoenix]

[hearty niche]

i didn’t know whether to be happy for them or distraught 😭

[tall phoenix]

They live to fight and die another day on some shithole planet

so probably least they can ask for

[hearty niche]

or they live to fight and talk about how they are from cadia

most they can ask for

[tall phoenix]

They are guardsmen. Their job is to die for a regime that doesnt care about them, so I doubt it.

https://tenor.com/view/imperial-guard-cat-warhammer40k-gif-23254825

[hearty niche]

very true but there is the occasional old man veteran

[odd skiff]

Yarrick

Dude was so old and bad ass the even the Templars followed his orders

[hearty niche]

creed was like 50 something which is pretty old for a guy who drinks non stop, smokes non stop, and has lived through years of combat

yarrick is like centuries old though

[final adder]

That one old ass cadian from hammer and bolter who blew up a possessed word bearer

[final adder]

Me and the boys on our way to die on some obscure planet because the fat governor told us to

I always excuse sergeant Malakar for killing the governor in the first act rogue trader because he was a lazy incompetent shit who had it coming

Dude let a chaos incursion fester on the planet and did nothing

[severe trail]

Yeah he gets the pass for that

He’s right

[final adder]

Yeah that's what Im saying

[severe trail]

Wish there was a way to save him

lol

[final adder]

Pretty sure he survives no? If you ask about the evac progress when you get back to your ship its mentioned that he's overseeing the transport of civilians. He gets blown up in the prior cutscene so its probably an oversight lol

[severe trail]

No, that’s the other PDF dude, who you can maim for no reason

[final adder]

Ah Camille

Love the guy, I always go to Rykad first so he doesn't die

Or is it Lucky Jaspar you're talking about?

I can't remember lol

[severe trail]

Jaspar

I believe

lol

But god there’s 3 PDF dudes lol

[final adder]

Also love how Heinrix, a fucking inquisitor, just does not a give a single shit about the governor's death lmfao

Like you and me both bro

My current RT also has the mark of shame for his darkest hour and the governor straight up has the audacity to tell you that your words don't mean shit when you call him out on his incompetence

Fuck that guy

[unborn merlin]

It saddens me to say that the new Night Lords book is mid.

[tall phoenix]

I was expecting it to be so, what a shame

wanna spoiler-censor dump lol

im curious

[unborn merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/they-can't-keep-getting-away-with-this-jesse-breaking-bad-jesse-pinkman-breaking-bad-gif-6986648139055286153

Uuh there's nothing interesting about it besides the apothecary and Tech-Priest characters.

[tall phoenix]

Whats the mcguffin, what is the motivation/aim of the entire book

does everyone die in the end lol

[unborn merlin]

https://www.reddit.com/r/NightLords/s/6KF4jY8fZp

Here's a good thread about it. Just know it's the same quality as Lords of Excess. It's another paint by the numbers chaos book.

[tall phoenix]

oh my fucking god anything but that formula

[unborn merlin]

I read a post somewhere saying it could've been any other chaos warband and I agree.

[tall phoenix]

OOF

[unborn merlin]

Didn't need to be NL, just another advertisement for the recent minis.

Can't even be mad. Just left me pretty hollow and you know I eat up NL slop like it's caviar.

[tall phoenix]

[trail ravine]

Any books from a slaaneshi perspective similar to the night lords series?

[last goblet]

Renegades: Lords of Excess

Nowhere near the calibre of Night Lords though

[odd skiff]

Descent of Angels
Fallen Angels
Angels of Caliban

[mental cobalt]

If I read voidscarred, is there any book I should read prior

[tall phoenix]

nope

its stand-alone

[tacit trail]

Should I read Ciaphas Cain, Gaunt's Ghosts, Vaults of Terra, or Fabius Bile trilogy?

[shy lark]

Of those I liked Vaults most followed by Cain but a lot of people like Bile as well

I suppose a lot of people like Gaunts lads as well but it wasn't for me

[drowsy urchin]

Gaunts is a great series to have in the background between other series or books

[shy lark]

Cain for me is reading one novel here and there, going from one to the other gets very boring imho

[wide mica]

Outgunned

[odd skiff]

Descent of Angels.

[tacit trail]

Already read it

[odd skiff]

Call of the lion

[glass gyro]

Can someone fill me in for the latest issue about the Emperor and the Terminus Decree? Appreciate!

[cerulean peak]

Grey knights have to stop the emperor getting off the golden throne at any price. Even if it means him resurrecting

He cannot leave, be reborn, ascend to godhood, etc

[glass gyro]

thx

[cerulean peak]

unless you meant an issue withing the fanbase

then idk, people are complaining about anything in warhammer

[severe trail]

The emperor gave a contingency decree/order while he was still somewhat cognizant on the throne

Emperor cannot get off the golden throne at any point or cost. Put him back on the throne. If the emperor is to ascend it has to be stopped.

TLDR emperor paranoid he’s not going to come back as himself if someday he does come back

Which is reasonable

[odd skiff]

It’s not confirmed it was the emperor

It could be the emperor, malcador or valdor.

[frigid osprey]

i mean its gotta be the Fabius Bile series

best slaanesh-adjacent stuff by a huge margin

[frigid osprey]

Biiiiiile

[frigid osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/tank-l4d2-left-for-dead-2-zombie-infected-gif-10866069616677634405

[tall phoenix]

POV: You're Bile and another subject broke out of their test tube again

[unborn merlin]

Bile all the way.

My only complaint about them is the fact we'll never get another EC book by Reynolds.

[severe trail]

We're never gona get another 40k book from Reynolds

[unborn merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/whyyyy-gif-25277158

He really was the 🐐

[runic root]

How so?

[severe trail]

he left black library

[runic root]

Hwuy?

[severe trail]

Like

ages aago

[tall phoenix]

Yeah it was due to frustrations with Black Library

because over years they kept shooting down his admittedly VERY cool book ideas (he made an entire twitter thread over this since people were curious)

[unborn merlin]

They made him cut significant amounts of content from the last Bile book as well.

[tall phoenix]

Yeah the last Bile book was a major frustration to him

he addressed a lot of it at the time

[unborn merlin]

The End and the Death would like to know your location...

[tall phoenix]

tbh

that was just Abnett himself saying

"Wowie this book took a lot of time to make but i did it!"

seeing as basically no one can object to him lmao

Reynolds was like "no you cant do that"

[unborn merlin]

Imagine being told your book was too long for Black Library only for that monstrosity to be released years later. I'd crash out ngl.

[tall phoenix]

ACTUALLY that wasnt the case

he himself just kept WRITING

because as per his own words his editor Nick Kyme even told him to just write and not worry about wordcount.

Fucking scumbag piece of shit lmao

[unborn merlin]

Honestly needed more Yu-Gi-Oh battles.

0/10

[tall phoenix]

[odd skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/gunna-fire-writing-heat-gif-25524005

Abnett after hearing that

[runic root]

Kyme....

[tall phoenix]

[runic root]

My nemesis

Together with fucking Thorpe

💀

[tall phoenix]

tell me about it

[cerulean peak]

Kyme fucked up the salamanders and then he unchained abnett

He is to abnett what erebus is to horus

[reef nacelle]

Reynolds left?!

[mellow knot]

Well, he only left in the sense that like most of us, he’s freelance and he chose to not pitch anything further. He’s still writing lots of awesome stuff, just not BL.

[tall phoenix]

Yeah he made an entire twitter thread about it a few years ago

[frigid osprey]

Josh Reynolds did a podcast with Jordan sorcery which was a great one, loads on insight into how black library works/worked

[tall phoenix]

Its surprisingly cutthroat lol

[mellow knot]

It’s a lot better now than it was at one point

[forest spruce]

I love how in fall of cadia cawl just shows up all of sudden like yeah he does that sometimes

[tall phoenix]

Tbh he WAS there in-person in the original lore

[forest spruce]

Yeah but they just mention "oh yeah cawl showed up around the same time of the phalanx but he didn't come from a phallix" and dude just said yeah I'm not gonna even try to understand cawls motives

Also I was literally thinking about oh I wonder when the phalanx would show up and it did

[severe trail]

Reynolds new non 40K stuff is great tbh

[mellow knot]

His Legend of the Five Rings ones are really good

[frigid osprey]

i rly need to read some of it, i love his writing

[mellow knot]

This is the first one of his Lo5R ones

https://www.aconytebooks.com/shop/poison-river-by-josh-reynolds/

[grim gate]

Whats a good Psyker focused book?

[quaint canopy]

Ravenor has lots of psykers

[cerulean peak]

Is it good? It's been sitting in my pile of unread for a while

[tall phoenix]

Its fine i think

i liked reading it but thats kind of it lol

[cerulean peak]

That's what matters

As long as it's not falling into the "slop" spectrum

[tall phoenix]

Yeah its not that bad. Its also like THE only book ever made to actually acknowledge/cover how sanctioned psykers get treated

(its dogshit)

"bolter-magnet"

[cerulean peak]

Kek

Cadian blood had a psyker

I remember him getting bullied

[tall phoenix]

yeah its extreme

[reef nacelle]

Cadian Blood has a major character that's a sanctioned psyker, though he wouldn't be the focus.

The first and second charcaradon books feature librarians quite heavily

[tall phoenix]

yeah just get Witchbringer

space marine psykers are 🥱

[cerulean peak]

The thing with space marines and inquisiton psykers is that they're out of bounds of the lex

[tall phoenix]

Also its better to explore "unknown" parts of the setting

space marine psykers do nothing but aura-farm lol

and inquisition psykers are just"

"GRRR I DONT TRUST YOU FREAK"

"YOU BETTER NOT INQUISITOR"

[cerulean peak]

enters mephiston

not even aura farm at this point

[tall phoenix]

God do not get me started

literal personification of a mary sue

[cerulean peak]

What about chaos space marines psykers

I have yet to read the ahriman series

[tall phoenix]

Ahriman is there but hes kinda the same shit

tho his series is more fun because chaos sorcery is funny

[reef nacelle]

||Being a librarian and former daemonhost|| added enough flavour for it to be worth a read for the specific topic. On top of being good books in general imo

[tall phoenix]

Yeah but space marines dont really have any interesting conflict that human characters have.

"UAAAGH IM GONNA FALL TO DAEMONS"

Never does the entire book

Especially when the concept of librarians is literally "Psykers but better."

[reef nacelle]

Not like that happens to major human psyker characters that frequently 🤷

[tall phoenix]

Yeah but thats actually interesting

astartes sloppa

execution

[runic root]

I recently finished broken crusade by Steven b Fischer and ive not seen a quality Fall off like that ever since the last 200 pages of Christopher Paolinis "inheritance" from 2011.

Like omg, so much boring and repetitive 3rd person exposition....

Instead of lulling me to sleep on 4 pages of boring report for one battle, just write 3 small scenes omg....

Really downgraded the book from a tier in the first half to c tier for me....

Broken crusade...
Can only recommend the first 100 pages 😐

[runic root]

"aLl Is DuSt" + "can i fix it, NO I cant" + "honhonhon, i have another mcmuffin up my sleeve" = every ahriman book ever

[odd skiff]

Descent of Angels
Fallen Angels
Angels of Caliban.

Don’t cross emote me, the main character is literally a psyker

[runic root]

They are hilarious

Mephiston - i could necromancy revive my slain battle brother but i dont wanna - callistarius

Or "the hivemind hates me personally - Tigurius"

Peak commedy

[odd skiff]

Haha

[runic root]

❌

[odd skiff]

✅

[odd skiff]

Who doesn’t want to read three books about the goat Cypher himself Librarian Zahariel.

[runic root]

I still want him to be cypher

But it isnt confirmed

[odd skiff]

I think it’s corswain ngl

[runic root]

Corswain never was that funny during the GC though....

Mustve had one hell of a character evolution

[odd skiff]

So did the lion

He’s a completely new man

[runic root]

Yeah, took him long enough

[forest spruce]

Bro just needed a nap

[runic root]

Great crusade lion had his head so far up his own ass that the looked like Bretzel

And that is the only correct way to write that. The German way. Not pretzel...

[runic root]

A longass nap

[odd skiff]

Papa was just tired and cranky throughout the full crusade, he just needed a little nap.

[runic root]

The lion was a bigger bitch than kurze or lorgar 🙄🤦🏻🤦🏻

He was so insufferable during the GC and HH

[trail ravine]

Where do I read about lion El jonson's return and what he's doing in current time? Is there anything like the plague wars books on this?

[cerulean peak]

Only Lion:son of the forest book and his ark of omen codex

[trail ravine]

Alright thanks ill check it out

[runic root]

Small spoiler: he is reassembling the fallen, at least those not corrupted by chaos. Everyone of them whose not chaos affiliated gets forgiven and taken into his service. He is assembling a fleet and rampages through imperium Nihilus killing everything he can find.

The ones that are Chaos corrupted fallen dark angels still get the dark angels fallen treatment, those that arent are redeemed. The chapter marines arent too happy about that....

Him and the blueberry havent met yet.

Thats all i know

[grim gate]

I started reading it but but I haven't gone back to it because I thought the main character was a bit too, normal I guess? Idk I prefer it when psykers are weirdos

[odd skiff]

“Small spoiler” proceeds to spoil the main plot and everything else

[tall phoenix]

[tall phoenix]

These really arent spoilers though

95% of this info is public information from White Dwarf

his first appearance on Arks also has him with the Risen

[odd skiff]

If the guy hasn’t read arks yet, it’s a spoiler.

[grim gate]

Idk but I feel like she's a bit too well adjusted and put together, I guess the kind of psyker book I'm looking for is one that really focuses on not just how poorly psykers are treated, but the horror of being a psyker

I like it when the psykers are autism coded

[tall phoenix]

Tbh the book literally explores that later on

so idk what to tell ya

[tall phoenix]

no

[grim gate]

Oh ok I was hoping it would start doing that later

[runic root]

Bruh are you high. Thats not the main plot at all. The main plot is the inner Journey of the lion and the fucky wucky forrest walk. I never mentioned the antagonist of the novel or all the subplots/side characters.

Besides, the book and the Codex have been out for a hot minute....

I basically spoiled a vague summary of the ending, thats why i said small spoilers.

[odd skiff]

I am actually

[tall phoenix]

Smoking quality stuff

but also yeah hot take but I really do not think the Lion has done really anything mindblowing since his return, there very much isnt anything to spoil

[odd skiff]

Saving the goat for 11th edition

[runic root]

In a way son of the forrest is written to set up alot.

We could get a book series where he

• collects more of his old legion
• fights the enemies of mankind
• meets rowboat gorillaglue
• hones his warp power
• refines his inner journey
• meets cypher
• meets luther
• unites old and new chapter
• mends mistakes of the past

Also, i want him to do some sort of penance for killing nemiel. That was beyond stupid

But allat is just me dreaming

[odd skiff]

If cypher is zahariel I think they’ll cover nemiel

If they do meet

[runic root]

IF....

[odd skiff]

They most certainly will but it’s If it’s in our lifetimes

[runic root]

Also, maybe thats just a fever dream of me, but
...

Bring back the destroyers. Lets cawl reinvent phosphex.

I want the warcrime division back

[odd skiff]

If zahariel is cypher then it will probably go like big fight or some such, lion apologises for killing nemiel and such then zahariel rejoins the legion and the dark angels have the rank of lord cypher once more.

[runic root]

Our kids kids get to listen to it directly from their mandatory brain chip 🫠😂

[runic root]

Asmondai is gonna get a stroke from all this forgiveness 😂

[runic root]

He's done a bit but not that much of significance

• collected a few risen
• united old and new guard
• killed a bunch of chaos warbands
• foiled a plot to kill the emperor
• learned a cool warp power
• bitchslapped angron

Its not alot but give the guy a break, he's still groggy from his 5 hour afternoon nap that was supposed to be 20 mins

Also him getting called old by a chaos marine was peak commedy

[severe trail]

Asmodai gets to torture people to death still

lol

[runic root]

The chaos corrupted fallen iirc

[severe trail]

The Lion just takes a look at the people to be tortured to death

And either frees them or not

When some non Chaos corrupted ones who hold true to being traitors

lol

Those are all on Lion’s “yeah do whatever you want with them” list

[runic root]

I am pretty sure asmondai hates that freeing the none corrupted ones is even an option

[severe trail]

Likely

lol

We don’t get his perspective

[runic root]

He is such an edgelord.

[severe trail]

We get another interrogator chaplains perspective on it and he wonders how many loyalists he brutally killed

Before saying they probably deserved it anyways

[tall phoenix]

LMAO

guantanamo ahh mindset

[severe trail]

There’s 2 interrogator chaplain mindsets

We’ve been given

One of them feels bad

The other is

They didn’t do it but they still probably deserved it anyways

[runic root]

We need a book series. But by whom 🤷🏻🤔

Well, as long as its not Thorpe or Kyme

[severe trail]

Thrope writes a lot of dark eldar stuff

lol

You may invoke his summoning

[runic root]

Maybe we can get McNeil to write it. Or A.D.B.

[runic root]

I will banish the foul deamon

[proven barn]

They probably did something that made them deserve it anyway

Clearly the idea there

[fluid tide]

Does the 40k library have different writing styles/reading levels per book/author/series?

[severe trail]

Writing styles per author yes

For series not really aside from the focused ones like warhammer crime and warhammer horror

[smoky bronze]

Reading level is pretty constant and generally pretty low requirements iirc

If a book is hard to read its usually because its poorly written rather than difficult lol

[wind rover]

Yes. They have a host of authors, who do different things and are good at different things from each other.

There's also long-running series (Dan Abnett's Ghosts and Inquisitor trilogies).

[severe trail]

I wouldn't say any 40k book requires a reading level higher then like

idfk middle school lol?

[wind rover]

ah

yes

well, the books are often written rather purple-prosey

[severe trail]

thats a thing a few authors do

but I don't think its hard to read still

[wind rover]

and use a host of idosyncratic (to the universe) and old-timey to arcane words, not always like how they'd have been used back in the day (like the auger, for instance).

no, but that may be a bit of a hurdle for non-natives

unless of course you read them translated, naturally.

otherwise, they're reasonably accessible. They're not, like, James Joyce or Immanuel Kant.

But it is a lot. Especially the megaseries (like the Horus "65 books" Heresy) - it can easily be overwhelming because to even understand where plot threads come from you need, like, 60 novels and 5 anthologies. that is a LOT of text.

so if you want to get started, pick a standalone novel you find interesting

[cyan bramble]

I would say you should be some sort of moderate novel reader to be comfortable with the books depending on the author and the series you'd like to read

[tall phoenix]

Its even worse because people go into HH assuming you gotta read everything when almost 80% of the series is pointless nonsense filler and only like 12-ish are necessary readings lol

[tacit trail]

Yeah i skimmed through so much of the heresy

[tall phoenix]

^

[tacit trail]

There really is so much fluff

[tall phoenix]

not added by the fact that the Heresy is an absolutely AWFUL way to start 40k, nothing in it is relevant by any means.

[tacit trail]

I own them as ebooks and throughout several novels I'd just be CTRL-F searching for actually relevant characters

[severe trail]

everyone who recomends Heresy

as a start for 40k

should be drawn and quartered

[tall phoenix]

100%

[tall phoenix]

Chad behavior btw

[severe trail]

I read the whole thing so I could call it mid

please

just read

what you want

[tall phoenix]

I read half, then I realised its literally nonsense

[severe trail]

do not read the whole thing

[tall phoenix]

and skipped to Siege lol

[tacit trail]

I started with Horus Heresy and it was a fine start considering I wanted to just focus on 30k at the time. It is not good for learning about the modern 40k setting

[tall phoenix]

Yeah like i said almost NOTHING in it is relevant to the setting

minus like what

Emperor sits on Throne

Horus is bad

Abaddon exists

PrimarchsPrimarchsPrimarchsPrimarchs

[tacit trail]

Abaddon felt so odd until the later books of the heresy

He felt like he was just there cause he had to be

It wasnt until the siege he started actually feeling like modern abaddon

In the horus rising trilogy hes just angry remembrancer hater #3

[tall phoenix]

To be fair it does work but I agree. And yeah especially with how Abnett handles him in the first 3 books, its so funny.

"Abaddon and the Mournival marched like a legion, a black legion"

[tall phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/suicide-squad-sucide-will-smith-gif-22583748

[tacit trail]

In saturnine wasnt there some paragraph that was like 8 references to something in a row or am I misremembering

[wise yew]

and people say this shit is good entry point to 40K

Who are you fooling the IRS

[shy lark]

I was gonna read the whole thing but I took a break after the 3rd one and then they kept releasing new ones, just throwing them out by the dozens, wild to see

[tacit trail]

and then, abaddon despoiled the entire world....

[tall phoenix]

Theres ironically a lot

like Guilliman fucking saying:

"This isnt Horus's treachery, IT IS HIS HERESY."

😭 😭 😭 😭

THIS SETTING IS COOKED BRUH

[wise yew]

Isn't there one where he slammed his imperial fist on the table or some shit

[severe trail]

Yes

[tacit trail]

I think so

[tall phoenix]

yeah let me get it

All because of Horus, because of the brightest bastard son, the bringer of new strife.

Dorn heard stone splinter. He looked down, he had punched his fist, his Imperial fist, through a block of stone in the parapet. He had barely registered the impact. The block was pulverised.

"My lord, is everything all right?“

this is by Abnett btw

[wise yew]

bro

what the hell is that

[tacit trail]

Little Horus Aximand of the Mournival has a sword named Mourn-it-all

[shy lark]

It's wild how Abnett has written some of my favourite things in warhammer and then these absolute bangers

[tall phoenix]

to be fair hes a comics writer for Marvel

he has a certain swagger

[wise yew]

the exaggerated swagger of a marvel comic writer

( they write some of the most peak yet dumb shit in existence )

[severe trail]

okay but thats funny

stupid name for weapons are funny in 40k

[tacit trail]

It is funny

Im excited for the scouring series

Though i hope it isnt nearly as long as HH

[tall phoenix]

Hahahaha

[severe trail]

god please be dawn of fire length

[tall phoenix]

not any better ngl

that shit also took forever

lmao

[severe trail]

It is better

by an order of magnitude

lol

[tacit trail]

I think the first book will be out guilliman taking the mantle and doing all his nerd stuff

[severe trail]

Dawn of Fire was Mid of Fire

[tacit trail]

Then another about iron cage

Another about the bitter war maybe

[severe trail]

but it wasn't like

as long as Heresy

[tacit trail]

And the alpha legion battle

Fall of caliban and maybe one more to wrap things up

With all the primarchs going where they went missing

The iron cage is the biggest thing for me

Emo dorn and my goat perturabo

[digital ether]

Tell me about your favorite Heresy-era books and/or lore events. Maybe even tell me about your favorite faction from the Heresy as well.

[odd skiff]

Descent of angels.

Tells the origins of the knights of caliban and by association the Dark Angels.

[severe trail]

LMAO SOMEONE GOT THEM EARLY

[wide mica]

Not surprising, tons of 3rd party stores just send out their preorder stock as soon as it arrives rather than waiting the two weeks.

[shy lark]

now the question is if they're any good

[wide mica]

They're Heresy books, of course they aren't good.

[digital ether]

Them’s fighting words pal.

[wide mica]

Of course they are, but before we debate the issue we must be fully versed on the subject. So be sure to read every Horus Heresy novel from start to finish before we begin

[digital ether]

I want to, but scalpers are ruining my efforts to obtain them all.

[wide mica]

I'll set a reminder for 3 years time, that should give us plenty of oppertunity to do so

[digital ether]

Lmao. Though the only reason it’s taking me forever is because I prefer to have physical books rather than e-books and/or audiobooks.

Only 45 more to go, currently. Hopefully I can get them all before I kick the bucket.

[digital ether]

Even if I arrive at the same conclusion, it’ll be worth it just to have them all in physical books rather than format.

[wind rover]

that's not all of them.

[wind rover]

that'd be like $1000 in ebay resale value.

[digital ether]

Worth it.

[wind rover]

even considering less-than-mint condition and everything

yes. ^^

[digital ether]

Still potentially worth it.

[wind rover]

also the fourth stack of 14 books is missing from the image.

[digital ether]

If someone is silly enough to part with their collection, who am I to not take advantage of their foolishness?

[wind rover]

fair

actually an apartment clearance might be quite worth it in that regard. they often give away books for free since "books don't sell"

[severe trail]

smart

[grim gate]

Is Voidscarred yaoi

[severe trail]

Some

[wide mica]

Any Yuri?

[hybrid turtle]

Thats in the drukhari book i think

[wide mica]

Damn

[tall phoenix]

Correct.

🫡

also its pretty good

[drowsy urchin]

can't be, you see people on twitter said it was bad and woke

[tall phoenix]

LMAO dont remind me

[hybrid turtle]

so whats the general opinion on voidscarred? worth getting?

[shy lark]

yea

I have some minor nitpicks but overall I put it as the second just straight up good Eldar novel

[hybrid turtle]

fair fair

[tall phoenix]

Very good/fun book but has the protagonist being beaten up a tad much imo

Brooks' ork bias really rears its head in some part in a book that is nothing about them lol

[hybrid turtle]

he loves the ork power fantasy

[reef nacelle]

Brooks Orks make named, helmetless space marines look like pansies

[tall phoenix]

As ever amazing titles

whats next, CAWL™?

or maybe TECHPRIEST™?

or perhaps BELISARUIS™

anyway hope this is in regards to him going t othat necron planet stuck on the event horizon of a blackhole

[wise yew]

This is just like if someone makes an orc book and it's about warbosses and calls it warboss-

Wait

[tall phoenix]

Deathworld? Or some kinda Deathworld-erer?

[wise yew]

A story about necron set in a tomb world therefore tomb world

[hybrid turtle]

Waiting for deathworldest

[cerulean peak]

The great work 2

We haven't had PRIMARIS yet

[wintry blade]

Is that out yet?

Unrelated to 40K but has anyone read Unsouled or the Cradle series?

[wise yew]

Yes

[severe trail]

It is based on the warcom post

[tall phoenix]

another pointless quest doomed to fail

based

[fickle temple]

I'm finding Krieg to be a bit grimboring right now. I'm on page 267 and I feel like I can predict the rest of the story from here

I'm a dreadfully slow reader..

[digital ether]

Siege of Vraks was boring for me tbh. Which is a shame. Because I like sieges.

[tall phoenix]

it literally leaves out every bit of what makes Vraks great so no surprise there lol

the Kriegers are like the 5% of the entire war

[severe trail]

Yeah

We don’t get any of the funny macro scale stuff

[tall phoenix]

^

[digital ether]

Yep, damn shame.

[severe trail]

Like all the officers in the campaign getting into a screaming contest

[tall phoenix]

Even boots on the ground it skips over extremely major events

[severe trail]

And blaming each other

[tall phoenix]

even the breaching of the fucking citadel after 17 years

[shy lark]

I was thinking about that and Fulgrim the Perfect son, they're okay novels kind of set up to fail by their titles. Siege could've been Dingus or whatver his name hero of Vraks and it'd have been fine

[tall phoenix]

Yep pretty much.

Fulgrim is one of the worst though genuinely

titled after primarch

barely appears or does anything

[severe trail]

Fulgrim the perfect son should not have been named after fulgrim

[tall phoenix]

you follow a loser chaos marine

[severe trail]

Then it would have been perfectly servicable lol

[tall phoenix]

same with that fucking dumbass Angron book

[shy lark]

I did genuinely like that absolute loser EC who needs combat drugs to fight normalass humans but uh, I was expecting more Fulgrim

[tall phoenix]

Yeah lol

its just such a filler book too

[shy lark]

Yeah it's nothing of consequence it's just Fulgrim sabotaging his own legion on some backwater planet

[tall phoenix]

Yeah and i hate people who are like

"Well it fits his character ok"

cool, can you make it less fucking boring if thats the case then

I can sit on my ass and write how fulgrim is decadent and does nothing too if thats cool

[shy lark]

Yeah call the novel Marduk Tamaris the biggest loser in the Emperors Children or have Fulgrim be a central figure in a novel named after him, or better yet don't write about primarchs

[tall phoenix]

this tbh

[tacit trail]

the book is boring and so hes barely around

sounds pretty in character to me

[tall phoenix]

Yeet

[wind rover]

Question: What novels are there that have a significant part focus on Rogue Traders? I know Farseer, Void King, the obvious trilogy, Mechanicus, and Blackstone Fortress. Anything I missed?

[tall phoenix]

Thats it really lol

they ironically barely have had any books over the last 30 years

Void King was probably the most prominent one but its very mid

[wind rover]

meh

way too much bolter porn and way too little actual rogue trading going on. >.< I mean the trilogy's last book basically was "why the Damocles Crusade was a total clusterfuck" instead of rogue trading too, but at least the other two weren't.

Too bad, I was hoping I had missed something

[tacit trail]

they got their own rpg

[wind rover]

Any good Navy novels out there?

[tall phoenix]

One of the best recent ones, Eddie Murphy on the cover too

[tacit trail]

is dawn of fire worth reading?

[tall phoenix]

also Shadowpoint and Execution Hour are very peak as well

[tall phoenix]

Fuck no lol

[wind rover]

ah, that really is about the navy? "Dawn of Fire" reads "mostly Guillimane and Space Marines" to me.

[tacit trail]

also do you guys do audiobooks or actual books? I got a lot of stuff on my list but im not sure how I want to read them

[wind rover]

ebooks mostly.

[tall phoenix]

See thats the best part. Its set for the Dawn of Fire but has nothing to do with the series in any capacity.

(much like every novel in this "series")

[shy lark]

Relentless is there also

[tall phoenix]

[wind rover]

Thanks! I'll get me those!

[tall phoenix]

Yeah its very fun

[tall phoenix]

Would only recommend these two

the entire series is very much boring

[shy lark]

I should pock up Sea of Souls I haven't read that one

[tacit trail]

for some reason I hate these covers

I can't put my finger on why

[tall phoenix]

They are a bit too Marvel-esque

[shy lark]

They're not very interesting

[tall phoenix]

same vibes lol

[tacit trail]

perhaps

[tall phoenix]

[forest spruce]

im impressed wolftime didnt have the fuck no die written on it

[tall phoenix]

too lazy to bother

[forest spruce]

fair

also i kinda did like throne of light but thats only cause the inqusitor part is cool

[tall phoenix]

yeah its not horrible, its just "fine"

[severe trail]

Avenging son is also fine tier imo

[fickle temple]

It was?? The Janovich video was so fucking good though.....

[digital ether]

Lmao, I was asleep. But yeah, the book was eh.

[mental cobalt]

Im reading elemental Council and wtf

This one chapter has them finding the seeker ethereal

But artamax finds them too

Then we see this wholesome scene of this human jules with the seeker and how they both care for each other

But he dies and she gets taken buy artamax, and when Paramount mover sees Jules is dead, he says to dispose of him like the rest