40k-book-club

[tall phoenix]

Yeah we shall see

[runic root]

Whats the Name of the scion book @severe trail ?

And is it available as paperback already?

[tall phoenix]

https://www.blacklibrary.com/prod-home/new/ebook-final-deployment-eng-2025.html

[runic root]

Thank you Boss

[tall phoenix]

[runic root]

Aight, imma go to sleep.

Y'all have a great day/night.

🌛

[severe trail]

No

It might be digital forever

[tall phoenix]

Based as hell

you physical book readers need to suffer

hahaha

[wide mica]

What?

Bro out here peddling falsehoods

[severe trail]

Nvm

wtf

[tall phoenix]

NOOOOOO

[proven barn]

Counterpoint the God Emperor said so the Tau are Xenos so we have to find reason to hate them in everything

[tall phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-duck-sleep-gif-12073235593935901891

[sonic walrus]

The Omnissiah demands the stain of the xenos be deleted. Where it remains, the Omnissiah rages.

[tall phoenix]

He needs to take his meds.

[sonic walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/pills-gif-8904642493781325272

[tall phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-cat-cat-my-honest-reaction-cat-with-the-hat-cat-in-the-hat-gif-25359607

[runic peak]

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-my-honest-reaction-meme-meat-funny-gif-4741023167018403483

[final adder]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-darktide-darktide-gif-3837205933150604742

[runic root]

On his last wound?

[final adder]

[severe trail]

Cain in the navy would have a ship of nothing but lance batteries with a nova cannon

[quaint canopy]

The comment about Arbites seems funny. What do you think she meant?

[runic root]

She is such a fangirl, i love it 🤣

Every man needs an amberley vail

[runic root]

Imagine a police officer who a) needs to be on the front of cleaning out the dregs of humanity all the time and b) who needs to be cold, calm, ruthless and brutal while doing it and c) follow every order by the letter and now imagine a person who hates doing all 3 of those with a passion

[storm kettle]

Man, Cain sure does fight tyranids and genestealers a lot

[reef nacelle]

Reading the epilogue of Malleus

[smoky bronze]

When i take my SATs (schola aptitude test) and it tells me im best suited for shooting allied soldiers

[grim gate]

I know the Tau show up a few times in the Caiphas Cain books, do yall think they do the tau justice?

[tall phoenix]

No lol

Cain is mostly a joke series so its fine i think

[pale vigil]

From the one book I've read so far it seeeems pretty straight edged? Like yeh it was funny, but I dont think its a bad representation of 40k

Didn't get to the Tau though, I just some Ork bits

[tall phoenix]

Its author himself said its not a good place to get lore from so idk about that one

[pale vigil]

Authors can be wrong, but Im inclined to believe it with something like this lmao

[tall phoenix]

I mean no he wrote the entire series, I trust his take more than what most fans would say tbh.

[runic root]

Why would you take any 40k serious lmao. Its the franchise with the motto "everything is canon but not all of it true"

[tall phoenix]

Because theres thousands of books where you are suppose to take the setting seriously.

The jokey stuff is largely relegated to small sections in novels or entirely to rulebooks.

[grim gate]

Are there any books yall can think of that give the T'au a good showing

I've already read Elemental Council

One of the main things I hear about Phil Kelly books is that it seems like he dosent actually like the T'au

[tall phoenix]

Unfortunately no, anything else is just mid/ok lol

Best you can do is maybe ask on the tau or r40klore subreddit for recommendations, they tend to be kinda bluntly honest

[grim gate]

GW if you make Noah Van Nguyen the new T'au guy i will buy literally every model in the T'au range

[sonic walrus]

Ciaphas Cain, the very model of bravery and selfiesness the imperium requires!

https://tenor.com/view/tales-of-heresy-comissar-смоллет-комиссар-kldpro-gif-7228841141789359004

[runic root]

Watch me disobey that directive

[runic root]

I can hear this gif lmao

[tall phoenix]

Theres nothing to disobey, its not a stance, its literally what the books are

[safe plover]

i read like half a chapter of soul drinkers 2 so far its a lot better than soul drinkers 1

[sonic walrus]

I can smell Jurgen

https://tenor.com/view/smell-sock-stinky-smelly-bad-smell-gif-16555592

[odd skiff]

Anyone recommend any good nightlord books besides the omnibus?

[tall phoenix]

We uhhh

We literally got nothing

Theres that ONE new book coming out but thats literally it i think

[shy lark]

the Night Lord in Morvenn Vahl: Spear of Faith is vaguely amusing

that's all I got

[runic root]

I got nothing. They only really have the trillogy. In all other media they are the cartoonish side piece villain.

[cerulean peak]

Lord of Night by Simon Spurrier

It's the forgotten night lords book about the forgotten first captain of the night lords

(I enjoyed it)

[reef nacelle]

They're the antagonists in the first Charcaradon book, if thats any use

[odd skiff]

This is criminal

I only like Nightlords, IW and word bearers from the heretic side.

[tall phoenix]

The existence of not being loyalist marines basically lol

Best you'll get is maybe short stories which are generally also misses

[wise yew]

Me bracing myself when someone asks a book series about non imperium factions

( they have a very small amount)

[odd skiff]

Any one that tells what message curze carved into the space wolves head he sent back to Terra in the watcher audio drama?

[sonic walrus]

I liked harrow master. Though I'm not particularly happy with the direction gw took with the legion. I think that the 20th would have been better as a reflection of the way the legions were vs how the chapters are now. With Omegon in charge and operating with an actual plan. A well oiled machine digging with slow precision into the imperium. Instead it's just a bunch of desperate factions who've splintered over and over again and turned to varying factions of chaos.

[tall phoenix]

The Alpha Legion has always been operating like that even with the Primarchs.

[sonic walrus]

I know.

What I'm saying is that they are essentially rudderless

[tall phoenix]

I mean yeah thats how Chaos is.

They all do their own thing.

[sonic walrus]

Even the shit the harrow master pulled together was less than chapter strength

I wanted them to be a legion, an actual dark reflection of the current chapters.

[tall phoenix]

Thats what makes chaos marine books usually appealing for people, they act as underdog reavers, its the reality of their situation of not being backed by the Imperial war machine.

[sonic walrus]

Not chaos tainted.

[tall phoenix]

[sonic walrus]

Don't give me that shit.

[tall phoenix]

Calm down lol

anyway

its kind of entirely the opposite of why I love Harrowmaster, just instantly shoots down this romantic idea people have of the Alpha Legion and shows them for what they truly are.

Its also fun to watch them get out of these situations where they are truly in the shit for the stuff they do.

[wise yew]

Cowards that can't stand up to a true fight

I am kidding of course

[tall phoenix]

Well that also depends

but yes lol

Every chaos warband is pretty different, some are basically homeless people, some are proper armadas of psychopath armies etc

the way Alpha Legion acts in comparison has never been really as a unified front.

[wise yew]

whike some are trent addicted homeless people given military grade hardware

[odd skiff]

When the legions who side with chaos become chaos tainted

[tall phoenix]

I was trying to be nice but literally this ^

Reading chaos book
Has chaos in it

[odd skiff]

Except iron warriors iron warriors stay based shoving daemons into machines

[sonic walrus]

It would actually be really nice to have the 20th operate like the legions of old. Being an actual reflection of the way things could have been if the heresy hadn't happened. But still against the imperium. Something like the ultramarines, but against the imperium.

[tall phoenix]

Nah IW are corrupted as well

theres no taint-free legion really

they just cope

[wise yew]

the moment and i mean the moment you work with chaos you already are corrupted

[tall phoenix]

Okay but they dont have those capabilities.

the book literally opens with them being routed by Primaris marines.

[sonic walrus]

No shit

[tall phoenix]

[sonic walrus]

I'm saying what I wanted. I didn't say the book was bad.

[tall phoenix]

Im aware

stop being so worked up

its just a very bizarre complaint

[sonic walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-sigh-gif-5895699729383201961

[odd skiff]

Why are traitors in my traitor book?

Like

It would be cool I admit to have the traitor legions stick together but just a darker mirror of their pre heresy version, but really once you betray basically your ultimate boss in the universe and join his enemies. Gods who kind of work on gaining favour from them then really there’s no one to be loyal to besides those gods you are gaining favour from. If stabbing your brothers in the back or even completely ignoring your primarch is how you gain favour from those gods then that’s what you’ll do.

[sonic walrus]

I was expressing a personal want. After finishing the book I thought about it for a while and, yes of course this is how they would have turned out.

[runic root]

"Waiter, there is a plague marine in my heresy soup

I am allergic"

[grim gate]

Whats some good books that heavily feature Xenos

[mental cobalt]

elemental council is good i hear

[tall phoenix]

I THINK they already read that since we constantly recommend it

But id highly suggest Valedor, Path of the Dark Eldar, or Twice Dead King as well as Infinite and the Divine

[grim gate]

whats Valedor about

[grim gate]

yeah it is very good and ive already read it, every time i ask for good Tau or Xenos books its what i get recommended lol, im starting to think that Necrons are the only Xenos that get good books lmao

[quaint canopy]

Craftworld Eldar versus Tyranids roughly, but a really good view on Eldar more generally.

[hybrid turtle]

Orks have some good books too 👍

[grim gate]

Tbh Orks don't really interest me that much

I mean i like orks but

i dont think theyre as interesting as the Tau, Eldar, or Necrons

[tall phoenix]

Long ago defiled by the Imperium of Man, the eldar maiden world of Dûriel was once a glittering jewel in the crown of the Valedor System. As the tyranids of Hive Fleet Leviathan sweep through the sector consuming everything in their path, wayward Prince Yriel of Iyanden discovers that the farseers have inadvertently brought a greater threat to bear – a fragment of Hive Fleet Kraken, hurled into the warp in order to save the craftworld, has returned. The tyranid fleets cannot be allowed to combine, or their genetic legacies will merge into something even more terrible. Alongside allied forces from Craftworld Biel-Tan and even the dark eldar of Commorragh, Yriel has no choice but to fight on to the bitter end...

really fun and good book, probably one of the only great Eldar books out ther elol

[reef nacelle]

I've been hearing mixed things about when I should read "Magos", apparently it has spoilers for Pariah but reading Pariah can spoil it too? Any advice

[tall phoenix]

Uhhh shouldnt there be a reading order?

[quaint canopy]

https://www.trackofwords.com/2021/02/14/a-guide-to-dan-abnetts-inquisition-series/

[tall phoenix]

Yeah thats the one

[reef nacelle]

I saw that but I also saw other comments about possible Pariah spoilers in Magos

I guess the books might be too intertwined to avoid completely

[tall phoenix]

Yeah idfk, if it was me id just read it regardless since tiptoeing around this shit can get annoying lol

[drowsy urchin]

Pariah is after Magos chronologically, no?

Magos also released way before Pariah

just do it in the order in the list above, it's fine

[smoky bronze]

bequin 3 🫂

there are probably people in here that were born after i started waiting for the bequin novels

[tall phoenix]

Yeah there deffo are lol

I remember when Bequin 2 came out

it was like having a fever dream

[smoky bronze]

i still havent read either

i feel like at this point

i feel like i should just do a big reread of all 9 when the last one comes out but god knows when GW will let dan work on it

https://tenor.com/view/ball-chain-trapped-bugs-bunny-looney-tunes-gif-5694035

dan abnett being told he needs to stretch the end of the horus heresy into 3 books

[tall phoenix]

Its already written.

Its just held in reserve by "powers beyond his reach" lol

[smoky bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/king-of-the-hill-hank-hank-hill-water-hose-shoot-me-gif-3699665

[tall phoenix]

🫡

[mental cobalt]

is this good or bad

[cerulean peak]

it means GW is cooking something (it'll take a decade)

[severe trail]

That was just Abnett being Abnett he got told to write as much as he wanted

And they wouldn’t edit it down that much

[smoky bronze]

Oh

They should have

[severe trail]

Kyme literally didn’t do his fucking job and Abnett absolutely needs some sort of leash lol

[tall phoenix]

Its more that iirc it had been like 10 years since the first Bequin book lol

so i was like "Wait, theres a new book coming out?"

[severe trail]

Finished final deployment

It’s good

Ending is kind of rushed but it’s not bad

[runic root]

Kyme never does his fucking job. Worst author right next to Thorpe

[safe plover]

bequin 3 on the list
thats wishful thinking if i ever saw it

damn that was a day ago forget i said anything

[tall phoenix]

Late message

slow

death

[safe plover]

discord's fault

[cerulean peak]

Is it?

[mental cobalt]

finished the end and the death volume 1

it was okay

curious to see the dark king stuff play out

and watch rogal turn the khorne

[tall phoenix]

[mental cobalt]

i wanted to ask about cypher

and is it a person or a role

is the cypher fighting with corswain the same one that gets jailed on terra

[tall phoenix]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Cypher

Cypher is a mysterious figure associated with the Dark Angels. Taking a pre-heresy title of office in The Order, his role was that of keeper of secrets and traditions. The current Cypher is said to be one of The Fallen.[3]

[mental cobalt]

[tall phoenix]

but yeah basically its a title

as for who the current Cypher is we got no idea

thats kinda the thing with the character where its a Big Mystery™

[mental cobalt]

wait do we know who the lord cypher was that broke out of terra's prison or was it just called cypher

[tall phoenix]

Just Cypher.

[tall phoenix]

^

[mental cobalt]

sorry

i got distracted with the whole charlie kirk stuff

[mental cobalt]

i guess that's cool

[tall phoenix]

[odd skiff]

It’s 100% Corswain

[mental cobalt]

are there any kino eldar/harlequinn books

[tall phoenix]

Harlequins largely have some small shorts and like an audio drama

for kino Eldar books read Valedor and Path of the Dark Eldar

[mental cobalt]

the intro to the end and the death vol 2 got me curious

[tall phoenix]

[mental cobalt]

Guy Haley???

This is better than the lost and the damned right

[tall phoenix]

I think its one of the best Eldar books ever (not that its a high bar)

Heres the key books you should read

Path of the Eldar is great but the battles suck and the eldar get squatted so its dogshit.

but their culture exploration is great

Farseer is a great older 40k book thats a simple adventure story

[severe trail]

Valedor is peak

[tall phoenix]

2 hivefleets about to meet

1 planet

an entire eldar/dark eldar/pirate warhost

This is the actual warzone the book takes place in btw

its a fucking fuckfest

[runic root]

Typical Thorpe

All his personal stats are maxxed in worldbuilding
Everything else sucks

Guy should go back to writing Codices and rulebooks.

[tall phoenix]

Genuinely lol

[runic root]

Or wait, i have an idea.

We let Guy Haley write the dialogue. Thorpe gets the world building. McNeil writes the Story/plot

The hungarian dude that wrote dark coil does the editing/final revision.

Would be pretty stacked

[tall phoenix]

[runic root]

Ey, a man can dream

[severe trail]

the dark coil dude is happy in his own land

Dark coil landia

[runic root]

Alternativley we can give the Story and plot to A.D.B but then then the book gets 1000 pages extra

[runic root]

Probably chilling all day, eating langos and sipping palinka.

The good Life

[trail ravine]

Does anyone have any deathwatch book recommendations?

[severe trail]

The deathwatch omnibus and Steve Parker’s deathwatch stuff

[tranquil bolt]

Are there any guard books for lesser popular regiments?

[runic root]

Volpones glory maybe?

Although the ending of that book is kinda whack

[tranquil bolt]

[fringe cove]

I feel Double Eagle maybe doesn’t get talked about enough. It’s a fantastic book from the perspective of the combat pilots.

Feels like reading a WW2 pilot novel at times with sci-fi trappings.

[odd skiff]

Unity by James Gilmer is a nice one I don’t see spoken of much

[tall phoenix]

Tbh thats basically what it is.

im just not a fan because its entirely just plane jargon-porn

i kinda read fighter books for the pilots themselves more than just console/button walls of text

[shy lark]

I guess that explains the inconsistency

[tall phoenix]

bruh

[runic root]

If anything that makes me like him more

Studious and always willing to help

[fringe thorn]

Guy Haley saving the boys love genre by himself

[shy lark]

It's nice, I can appreciate it. I just found his consistensy to vary wildly in some case and I suppose that explains it

[safe plover]

semi spoiler for bequin 2

[tall phoenix]

Tales from the black library

yeet

also literally everyone knows these spoilers by now tbh

next you'll tell me Valdor is the Yellow Mustard King

[safe plover]

🙄 You'd make the worst librarian

[tall phoenix]

Shut up lol

the book is a few years old at this point

[safe plover]

Hi I'd like to check this book out "Moby Dick"
YOU KNOW HE DOESNT CATCH IT IN THE END RIGHT?!

[tall phoenix]

Are you aware also everyone knows this

[safe plover]

🙄

[tall phoenix]

careful that those eyes dont pop out

[safe plover]

i wish then id remain spoiler free

[tall phoenix]

EVERYONE KNOWS

The goddamn valdor reveal is still being talked about

[final adder]

MUSTARD?

https://tenor.com/view/mustard-kai-cenat-alsokami-komik-mustard-gif-gif-8559662327962672792

[runic root]

Why? Is he so bad?

[tall phoenix]

Just talks about nothing but 30k slop/Primarchs

its very boring

[runic root]

Ive only ever watched two Videos of his, one of which is were he ranted about how abusive his family is and that he plans of fleeing to Germany

So i have no conclusive judgement as to the quality of his work, since i havent watched enough of it

[safe plover]

as if 40k is any better

[tall phoenix]

Still more diverse than just primarch circlejerking.

[safe plover]

i love the primarchs and i cant wait for gw to destroy the lore and bring them all back

[tall phoenix]

Weak bait.

Next 📢

[safe plover]

how i feel is bait

ok buddy

OK FRIEND

i am going to hear monologues about dorn remembering his 9900989 years walking alone and its gonna be peak

[tall phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1262311186351788113/1296045943849750539/in-light-of-recent-news-kazotsky-kick-burnice-v0-ok2zvyr6hxud1.gif

Watch out for his IMPERIAL FIST

[proven barn]

Which one

The left one or the right one

[tall phoenix]

[mental cobalt]

CAUSE IT'S VALDOR

i'm just curious of that whole space he's building this army in

is it like the warp

[tall phoenix]

its a pocket dimension iirc?

[mental cobalt]

that's what i'm thinking

[tall phoenix]

After entering the pocket dimension known as the City of Dust, Alizebeth Bequin was nearly taken before the King in Yellow, but she used Enuncia to escape. Bequin and her own entourage recovered a book whose entire contents were a single name which was apparently the identity of the King in Yellow. The first words in the book were Constantin Valdor.[2c]

Yep there it is

[mental cobalt]

i think we got a glimpse in Magos

or atleast i feel like that was a part of it

[tall phoenix]

I THINK it only appears in Pariah/Penitent

i doubt abnett planned it that far back

[mental cobalt]

well imma speculate that it's an area they managed to create, this pocket dimension, and since he worked with the cognitae, they found a way to make their own

and that's where magos took place

[tall phoenix]

tho pocket dimensions are a very popular sci-fi trope so yea probably

[mental cobalt]

im also curious if the cognitae are actually bad since valdor was working with them

[tall phoenix]

we'll see i guess, my guess is probably yes

abnett is not really usually known for his complex villains

[mental cobalt]

Molotch was complex i think

or maybe intelligent

[tall phoenix]

Probably.... or you were tricked

[mental cobalt]

i just remember the chapter where he showcased his intellect and i was

[tall phoenix]

[sonic walrus]

It's what's left of the realm horus created to rule the galaxy from after he killed the emperor. Accept he lost and what's left is the city of dust.

[tall phoenix]

We dont really know that

but sure probably

[sonic walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-jake-the-dog-adventure-time-idunno-idk-gif-5265736

I generally just assume that the stupidest/easiest/most likely thing that can be a call back to previous works of going to be used.

What better place for valdor to operate his empire from than a pocket dimension created by the Arch Traitor.

https://tenor.com/view/le-tired-le-tired-end-o-tthe-world-gif-9653977

I also have a pretty wild ass theory about Graels. But I'm le tired.

[kindred yacht]

Can I join #staff furry rp?

[tall phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-yakuza-can-you-shut-up-shut-your-mouth-gif-9966065835841311517

[kindred yacht]

Sorry

[tall phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/i-can't-have-this-conversation-again-tony-soprano-the-sopranos-gif-16274142811887245291

[kindred yacht]

again?

😭

Alright ill stop

I’m crying

[sonic walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-out-loud-laugh-ridiculous-hilarious-lolz-gif-17376550074772904877

[safe plover]

thats for the discord-discord

they have a secret channel where they gossip

[drowsy urchin]

hm, this one will have a short story by Fehervari. Might be interesting after all

[safe plover]

is that an... anthology?

[drowsy urchin]

yes

[safe plover]

🤔

is it any good? is there a theme?

[drowsy urchin]

Darkness Eternal runs the gamut of the Warhammer 40,000 setting, featuring tales from Nate Crowley, Justin D Hill, Peter Fehervari, and many more. With a hugely diverse range of characters from across various factions, Darkness Eternal takes us into the worlds of the savage kroot, the ravenous tyranids and the avaricious Leagues of Votann – and the Imperium of Man’s struggle for primacy against them all.

This compilation of 13 short stories will be available to pre-order in paperback, eBook, and MP3 audiobook editions.```

this is all we know

or well, there's probably some more information somewhere but this was on the community article

[safe plover]

🤔

i wonder if its all nids or all aliens or what

[quaint canopy]

Did you read this sentence?

Darkness Eternal takes us into the worlds of the savage kroot, the ravenous tyranids and the avaricious Leagues of Votann – and the Imperium of Man’s struggle for primacy against them all.

[mental cobalt]

I can't wait to see sanguinius die and the angels go into their rage

[reef nacelle]

Only ~28000 years to go

[mental cobalt]

im on end and the death vol 2 and the angels are already feeling dread

[tall phoenix]

:]

[safe plover]

books really werent bad if you skip the po part

||WOAH TERMINOUS DECREE IS THE TERMINOUS WEAPON|| wowowowowo

[tall phoenix]

They are pretty bad even with his parts

too much padding, too many chapters

[runic root]

Clad doesnt read 😂

He hears half of the audiobook and then comes in here and throws hands with Dilara

[final adder]

"Jurgen, kill him."

[proven barn]

Jurgen, we’re gonna have to kill this guy
Damn

[storm kettle]

Jurgen the realest mf in the setting fr

[wide mica]

Looking forward to Vagabond Squad, sounds interesting and I love books about pilots

[wise yew]

wait tank novels

ok i'm looking for that

[tall phoenix]

meanwhile

another Lyons Krieg novel

🗑️

[wise yew]

wait is steel tread the only tank related novel for Imperial Guard

[tall phoenix]

no lol

[wide mica]

I really should read Steel Tread

[tall phoenix]

they got tons

[wise yew]

aight send me some good ones

[static star]

It's okay but the ending is sort of dog water

[wise yew]

i need to read something besides orks

[wide mica]

Ohhh good they're rereleasing Steel Tread alongside the sequel

I might get both

[wise yew]

Is this the mythical guy haley book that is actually good pull

[tall phoenix]

idfk

read it

[static star]

Read Imperial Glory as a segway has Guard and orks

[wide mica]

Damn, can't believe all these bozo books are getting Limited Editions but Shard didn't

[tall phoenix]

Hopefully in the future

[wise yew]

well fuck me then

If you didn't know why you recommend it to me

[tall phoenix]

[tall phoenix]

Steel Tread is like a literaly "Who?" book

Shard is likely to get some in the future fingers crossed

[static star]

Don't like Krieg or the books actually bad?

[tall phoenix]

Lyons himself is a bad author

his only good book is like Dead Men Walking and thats like from over 15 years ago

any Krieg book hes been written since then has been generally mid, even by DoK fans ironically

[shy lark]

There's cool bits, mostly mid books

You read through like 80 pages and you get one cool one, then it's back to being just ok

[tall phoenix]

Yeah idk why he even bothers ngl

hes like the only author that writes for them as well which is pretty sad

[shy lark]

he did cook with left for dead, short story not the game

but it's about something extremely mundane

[wise yew]

when you're in a draw books for only one faction competition and your opponent is LYONS

[severe trail]

He peaked at dead men walking

It’s all been downhill from that one

[mental cobalt]

sanguinius just met ferrus...

i'm loving all this warp shenanigans

how it's changing the entire war

abbadon literally stepped on a ship and teleported to the vengeful spirit

[proven barn]

I liked Krieg (it’s one of my three warhammer books)

[tall phoenix]

That last bit explains a lot

[tall phoenix]

I love when one of his pals is like

"Captain... did we just-"

"Do not think about it. Do not."

[proven barn]

It was a fun read is the point though

I do have the Ahriman Omnibus

[tall phoenix]

Eh idk, ive met more people that just didnt like it, the flashbacks are also the only buying point.

[proven barn]

Yeah

Didn’t like the Cadian sergeant bits

The Inquisitor was meh

[mental cobalt]

i like how the space wolf was like "i'll adhere to your orders fist" then a chapter later was like "i misunderstood what adherence means"

i need to read more about space wolves

[tall phoenix]

Lukas the Trickster! Do it!

[mental cobalt]

[odd skiff]

Listen to “the watcher” audio drama

https://tenor.com/view/evil-grin-evil-evil-smile-devious-gif-6415346156262007236

[final adder]

So we're getting new yarrick books?

[tall phoenix]

Pretty sure its a re-run of his OG series

ive seen that cover before on a reprint

[final adder]

Gotcha, ty

[hearty niche]

https://tenor.com/view/спасибосаня-thank-you-robert-redford-smile-nodding-gif-17804083

[sonic walrus]

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/legendary-strategy-boardgame-twilight-imperium-is-getting-a-proper-pc-adaptation-with-singleplayer-support

[runic root]

https://youtu.be/0bLMQZCOanM?si=T4sPi2nD7mLvNCcH

Its over, Clad, even Majorkill loves and praises legion

[reef nacelle]

Is this a good thing? Maybe clad is right

[tall phoenix]

Legion is a pretty okay book

hes just a guy who cant read, and thats okay

[safe plover]

LEGION IS BAD

[safe plover]

did he just become 30% more Neanderthal?

[safe plover]

there is no power on this earth that can force me to read dan abnetts garbage turkish/arabic make belief language

[cerulean peak]

|| I respect your stand on Legion ||

[safe plover]

🙄 i am not clicking that

[cerulean peak]

Shame

I've begun reading A Thousand Sons and I keep falling asleep

[safe plover]

its not that bad

though anything in their entire plotline that isnt arvida or ahriman is kinda mid

[cerulean peak]

Too tired to read as of late

I hope to make some meaningful progress in the book soon

[runic root]

Ive read the first five sentences on page one and lost interest lol

[runic root]

One might say all is too DUST(y)

[cerulean peak]

[cerulean peak]

"It was me, abnett! "

[wise yew]

" i travelled back in time and scrambled your brain so that you won't write legion! "

[safe plover]

smh theres no way i would allow such a thing to be made

that would imply i enjoy hating things to an unrealistic degree which is not tru!!!!

[cerulean peak]

At this point whether you meme or not doesn't matter.

Your hate for Legion is it's own thing

[tall phoenix]

All jokes aside hes serious but the book is very much at worst pretty okay/good

He just gets fed up with some weird quirk of Abnett and left it at like the very first pages, so his opinion on it very much does not matter

[wise yew]

i have developed a magic spell specifically just for you

[cerulean peak]

8d6+20 necro damage 💀

[tall phoenix]

Bulgur with the deepstrike memes based as hell

[wise yew]

it's also a cantrip so you could cast it for free

[cerulean peak]

I'll force my undead minions to read Legion so they can heal

[safe plover]

https://imgs.search.brave.com/H_UTzpWNoOf1DyOPTSwCiYQ0BC7DK0UJs55ovpEbdnc/rs:fit:860:0:0:0/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly9kcmFm/dHNpbS5jb20vd3At/Y29udGVudC91cGxv/YWRzLzIwMjAvMTEv/Q291bnRlcnNwZWxs/LTEtMTAyNHg1NzYu/anBn

swords to ploughshares your commander

farewells the board

idc!!!

[runic root]

Missed opportunity for the counterspell meme

[safe plover]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[wise yew]

i can only just make the spell stronger you cannot win

[safe plover]

https://images.saymedia-content.com/.image/c_limit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_auto:eco%2Cw_672/MTkyMTUxNzM4NDI4NDk5MTIw/best-ability-counters-mtg.webp

counter the active

u die on stack noob!!!

[wise yew]

You cannot win the fabric of existence bends to my will

Checkmate you oversize fish

[safe plover]

u know i can just counter the active again

you need to have {THIS SPELL CANT BE COUNTERED} in the start

[wise yew]

I can just change it so that every time you counter the active you have to admit you like legion

[safe plover]

wont happen

[wise yew]

[hearty niche]

https://tenor.com/view/based-meme-hello-based-department-based-based-department-gif-8935998474362718486

[runic root]

New card.

Whenever Clad is playing the game he automatically loses

The card said so, thus it is right

[safe plover]

countered

[forest spruce]

Holy shit

Fall of cadia is tragic

[tall phoenix]

Its peak

https://tenor.com/view/cat-it's-peak-cat-it's-peak-it's-mid-orange-cat-gif-17883059146133370492

told you it was good

[brittle tapir]

peak guard material

you know you're a guard fan when you go hell yeah whenever a character dies

[tall phoenix]

its also probably one of the few 40k books where it literally explores every single POV in a battle as huge as cadia

[forest spruce]

Bro

They got sent fucking paint instead of food

[tall phoenix]

PEAK Imperium

[shy lark]

The whiteshields part is so baller and coolpilled

[forest spruce]

They are making propaganda about these people and they aren't even feeding them

[tall phoenix]

Yeah the propaganda bit is one of my favs, the female sergeant reporting in and they just say to photoshop out any scars she has + the fact that shes basically a nobody.

Its really good and realistic

[forest spruce]

No not photoshoping scars out adding scars

Scars are a big thing for cadians

[tall phoenix]

Wait whoops mixed it up with Shard

in that shes a wider propaganda material so makes sense, with the Cadians its a local thing

[forest spruce]

24 in the war

Can't wait for them all to die a horrible death

[tall phoenix]

🫡

[forest spruce]

When's trayzen show up tho, he's bacially just talked about the bell and dinking around with the null array

I need more of metal funny man

[tall phoenix]

He gets some minor scenes, hes not really a huge character but the parts he does appear in he absolutely steals it, just wait

hes essentially on a safari lol

the Bell part is also 1:1 taken from the Gathering Storm Part 1 stuff its great

[forest spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/trazyn-the-infinite-warhammer-40k-gif-3355898242283101549

[tall phoenix]

No.1 rizzmaster

[brittle tapir]

he just shows up, watches the fight go on, argue with mechanicus then leaves

[forest spruce]

Perfect

[brittle tapir]

he's just there to check for any cool thing he could add to his collection

he knows it's a big event

although i'm sure he might have helped more if he knew what was going to happen to the eye of terror after the planet blows up

[forest spruce]

Some wars are unwinnable

[tall phoenix]

The only thing he cares about is the sanctity of his collection so i doubt he'd have cared too much ngl

[forest spruce]

Abbadon threw such a fit the planet broke

[tall phoenix]

Tbh he did the smartest thing

[forest spruce]

Not a lot to be done

[tall phoenix]

the pylons were closing the Eye

idk why people never get this

[forest spruce]

Yeah 100% the right call

[tall phoenix]

That and the space furries disabled the Fortress

which uhhh

you are gonna see with that psyker-girl-person thing

[wise yew]

and by like necron standards

he's very nice

[tall phoenix]

Im still very peculiar about a character like her who just "controls" the Fortress

but her addition is pretty good

[forest spruce]

She's gonna get her face crushed the moment she stops being useful

[tall phoenix]

Uhh no spoilers but its worse than that

[forest spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-tyranid-space-marines-titus-gif-4053401268298780302

[tall phoenix]

A death like that is too simple

[forest spruce]

So your telling me abadon isn't a loving caring father

[tall phoenix]

Keep what you said in mind near the ending of the book

it comes back up in a really "Ouch" way lol

[forest spruce]

Oh no

[tall phoenix]

[wise yew]

The herald of chaos is not a loving father

This is like being surprised when a guy is gonna say he's gonna shoot you and then he actually shoots you

[forest spruce]

But but but he said he was

https://tenor.com/view/ready-laughing-hysterically-now-comes-the-part-throw-our-head-back-laugh-gif-16327206

[wise yew]

Would you believe someone who has people serving him called Ragnak the face Ripper and child mangler

[runic root]

I mean, the man's emotional spectrum only stretches from broody/stubborn violence to malicious/murderous rage/spite...

Who would have thunk

[forest spruce]

Honestly can I say this without being crucified

I kinda like abbadon

[tall phoenix]

I really also like Abaddon in this novel, the part where he seperates the slaanesh/khorne lord from each other like a kindergarten teache ris hilarious

LMAO jinx

[forest spruce]

Nioooooooooo

[wise yew]

Honestly he could be just as popular as archaeon if he was written well

[runic root]

Youre in a chat that tolerates Clad. You can say almost anything lmao

[wise yew]

It's just that a lot of the things he does as well you know multiple cooks in the kitchen moment

[tall phoenix]

Also there isnt anything to crucify over, Abaddon is a good character.

Loyalist fans just do not read anything with him in it

and when they do (and thats barely) its:

"Omg he has so much plot armor"

me at any moment a loyalist marine character wins everything in a novel

https://tenor.com/view/cat-staring-staring-cat-cat-meme-silly-gif-8623286337175973578

I dont think hes a fantastic character but hes fun to read about in both 30k and 40k

[wise yew]

ok and?

You have Mr. demigod survived a disease that can kill demigods over here

[forest spruce]

Abbadon suffers in the same way cato does. Early representation being bad makes people hate them forever

[tall phoenix]

Pretty much.

[runic root]

I love how he just shot talos in the chest with a storm bolter before he could get his preysight on lmao.

[forest spruce]

Nah you see that's just evening the playing field

[torn silo]

Obligatory Black Legion 3 pls ADB

[brittle tapir]

didn't the great rift fuck up portions of his collection

[cerulean peak]

(I wish tho)

[torn silo]

Soon + 2 years

[forest spruce]

The bell going off messed up the collection but idk if the rift itself messed with the collection

[runic root]

Continental plates move faster than ADB

[tall phoenix]

I dont think so no

[runic root]

I think he had a tyranid hivefleet in his collection that broke free of the stasis and devastated part of his museum

But thats just a lore snippet i caught from the Internet. Dunno If its legit and what novel or codex this is from

[shy lark]

Trazyn did lose that one bell that started going ham in his collection but wasn't that more or less it

[runic root]

Lore from White dwarf or Codices always eludes me because i dont read those

[shy lark]

he also did throw it away though

[runic root]

Didnt he throw it in the webway to bother the eldar?

[shy lark]

I think so

[torn silo]

Just a bit of casual tomfoolery

[runic root]

Trazyn, master of trolling

The twitter king
The 4chan bandit
The Godfather of Reddit
The scourge of Discord

[tall phoenix]

Its real yeah, its an offshoot mention.

[brittle tapir]

trazyn's collection regularly has shenanigans going on

a place can't be interesting in 40k if horrible shit doesn't happen every so often

[brittle tapir]

bruh

[final adder]

It would be the other way around lol

Cain always tries to avoid conflict whenever possible

[wary slate]

One of the best W40k books!

[grim gate]

Damn near made me pivot to Necrons

[proven barn]

Oh and like 3 of them happen within the first third of the book

[storm kettle]

Infinite and divine was my first warhammer book ever

After that I started reading gotrizz and Feetlicks and have been reading from both fantasy and 40k ever since

[smoky bronze]

i think some of abbadons rep comes from the arms falling off his OG model too lol

[odd skiff]

It’s weird

Yes what happens is tragic

But what he says to her at the end makes me think he might do deep down

[torn silo]

I preordered that new Voidscarred book by Mike Brooks. Special edition was already long gone by the time I remembered preorders go live today but the idea of spending $95 on a novel makes me feel sick no matter what cover art GW put on it

[tall phoenix]

Said cover art is also literally a flat color with a sigil on it

Im sorry but anyone buying that is a bit- 😭

[wise yew]

Homie you spent the money on the exclusive edition of the equivalent of buying a video game skin for a book

[tall phoenix]

welp

pre order time

[drowsy urchin]

remnant blade has an audio drama version?

[tall phoenix]

Audiobook*

but yeah looks like it

[drowsy urchin]

well an audio book was a given

but the middle one made me think audio drama

[tall phoenix]

Yeah audio-dramas are their own thing since its basically a short movie with no visuals

they dont get made in the books as far as im aware, you can read the scripts though

[drowsy urchin]

I know what an audio drama is

[tall phoenix]

:]

[wise yew]

they don't do those much anymore

What is like the latest audio drama GW has anyway

[tall phoenix]

its pretty expensive

[wise yew]

yeah the special effects work is already amazing and really immerses you

[drowsy urchin]

I'm not usually a fan beacuse the mixing is often ass

[wise yew]

the sons of behemat audio drama is great

[torn silo]

I got the regular hardback because I'm OCD about covers pealing and backs creasing (and in this case because I'm an Eldar player)

[wise yew]

I mean that's a good choice because you are literally just reading the story anyway right that's the point of getting a book why would you get a book for a cosmetic choice

[torn silo]

To look nice on my shelf after I'm done

[tall phoenix]

Thats a thing with some people yeah

I personally couldnt give less of a shit

[odd skiff]

It’s quite cheap to be fair

I got mine for £16.08 including delivery

[tall phoenix]

Oh yeah nah it is

im getting epub too so no loss for me

[forest spruce]

Idk what my next book is gonna be

Kinda at a loss but I don't really gotta worry still got like 8 hours left in fall of cadia

[tall phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-it's-peak-cat-it's-peak-it's-mid-orange-cat-gif-17883059146133370492

[forest spruce]

It is peak but God damn it's long

[tall phoenix]

well IT IS the fall of Cadia so

[shy lark]

waiter, a new robert rath novel please

[torn silo]

I got the audiobook that they delisted, with the narrator they replaced

[tall phoenix]

We're hitting the big leagues

[tall phoenix]

LMAO

I REMEMBER THAT

You know the situation is bad when they replace the VA after like 2-3 weeks

actually hilarious

[torn silo]

Yep

[forest spruce]

Huh

Somebody elighnten me

[wise yew]

Oh you haven't heard fall of cadia had such a shit narrator

a lot of people complain for him to be replaced

apparently people who have listened to the book said it is very bad and they just want them to be replaced

[torn silo]

I made it to about chapter five lol

[forest spruce]

Yikes

[tall phoenix]

Yeah he was basically just boring

like, barely put any effort into the narration

its the first time ive seen something like this happen

[forest spruce]

So like Peter dinkledge as the ghost in destiny

[torn silo]

It was definitely the right choice to replace him, 4.9 on Audible with the redone version and all

[wise yew]

I think he might be the nick kyme of narrators for that to be that bad

[shy lark]

Dinkbot was just boring, this guy got people mad

[forest spruce]

Yikes

There's been a few narrators I didn't like but never that bad

[torn silo]

I think the old one did the Ahriman books too? Even Undying

[forest spruce]

Mark elstob?

[torn silo]

Yes that's the guy

[forest spruce]

Yeah he sounds kinda boring very monotone

[safe plover]

tfw no bequin 3 or scouring yet...........

[tall phoenix]

🫡

[safe plover]

i just want a retelling of the lion russ fight

and to hear Gman make inventory of whats left after the heresy

[runic root]

Gman sitting at a desk, reading casulty lists while killing one Marlboro packet after the other

[safe plover]

yes

[runic root]

Poor guy couldnt catch a break... Until Fulgrim made him

[mental cobalt]

those new black library books worth it?

i do NOT care about steve lyons and krieg...

[tall phoenix]

Do not get Krieg, its 100% gonna be mid af

Corsairs one im getting because its Brooks + the premise sounds great

the others we'll see, im getting the Night Lords one because fuck it

[shy lark]

So far Mike Brooks seems to cook a little so probably Voidscarred

[tall phoenix]

"cook a little" is CRAZY

[safe plover]

i imagine krieg audiobooks to be fully in pyro voice

[sonic walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/team-fortress-2-tf2-meet-the-pyro-pyro-meet-the-team-gif-10141151171381150252

[mental cobalt]

the emperor is the dark king

[tall phoenix]

Correct

[safe plover]

heretics.......

[tall phoenix]

Get better material

🗣️📢

[digital ether]

Anyone buy some good books lately? I happened to get lucky a few days ago and find the Night Lords Omnibus, the Ahriman Omnibus, and Harrowmaster at my local GW during my quest for the Annotated edition of the Lords of Silence.

I honestly doubt I’ll ever find a physical copy of the Annotated Ed. of LoS, thanks to scalpers, but a man can dream.

[tall phoenix]

Damn thats a good haul

ım currently about to read the Final Deployment thingy, that new Scion book. And ordered the epub for the new eldar corsair book + night lords one, so gonna be awhile until they are avaliable on epub lol

[digital ether]

Neato!

[runic root]

Waiting for the verdict

[tall phoenix]

Its gonna be awhile, they are releasing next month

the 1st i think

[digital ether]

Wish Black Library would re-run the Heresy physical copies collected a good number, yet still so far atm. I also don’t want to pay scalpers a shilling lol.

[safe plover]

ive heard good things about the collection of short stories for eisenhorn

[digital ether]

Neato

[runic root]

I have time.

Besides, i peg you as a fast reader

[tall phoenix]

If the book is good...

[runic root]

If its not, please pretend it is and recommend it to clad, i wanna see what happens

[runic root]

Not really. I read 2 e short storiy collections, one about a dreadnaught and one about tactical dreadnaught armor (Terminator armor). Both were in the realm of 'aight'.
.

[fickle temple]

I'm a slow reader

Though I can be stuck reading something for a whole day

[mental cobalt]

or just give us omnibus versions where each is 3-4 books

they already have HH in omnibus form for other languages

or at least i've seen it somewhere

[digital ether]

Huh, neat. I agree, that would be cool.

[mental cobalt]

Made a makeshift night lite so I can read in the dark

[fringe thorn]

pondering the orb

[drowsy urchin]

They do every now and then, usually in sets, like from books numbers 10 to 19 etc

[cerulean peak]

God Thousand sons is boring

I might pull a Clad

[safe plover]

bro just wait

just wait bro arvida is gonna save ur reading experience

but yeah entire thousand sons arc has two good characters and theyre arvida and ahriman

[cerulean peak]

Is Prospero Burns a follow up?

[safe plover]

ye

[drowsy urchin]

Prospero Burns is the better one

[cerulean peak]

I think i'll just watch arbitor ian's book club video on thousand sons and move on to nemesis

[mental cobalt]

Okay i can't believe Ollianus actually convinced the emperor 😌

[tall phoenix]

He gave up his Christianity for da Empra 😔

[tall phoenix]

Propsero Burns is the better book as per Jerk

Thousand Sons is not good lmao

[mental cobalt]

finished end and death volume 2

sanguinius is dead 😔

i wonder if they talk about what they do with his body

since they showed ferrus' skull on an alter

[tall phoenix]

Kinda, you'll get some reactions in the next book

otherwise its just offhadnedly mentioned that hes given a funeral with the last surviving blood angels and thats it

[inner iris]

Any recommendations for Inquisition books? I've read Ravenor, Eisenhorn and Vaults of Terra.

Vaults of Terra was my favorite

[mental cobalt]

bequin

[inner iris]

I'm holding off til it's done 🙂

[tall phoenix]

Honestly thats kind of it? Major books wise at least

theres some like Daemonhunter but its not really good lol

[severe trail]

There’s a lot of short stories

Tbh

[tall phoenix]

those are Short stories dingus

[severe trail]

But those as always vary wildly in quality

[tall phoenix]

yeah that too

and I say this as a person thats read all of them 💀

I COULD possibly recommend maybe Rites of Passage as it has a nice Inquisitor side character, same with Harrowmaster; but they are Navigator and Alpha Legion books respectively 😔

[severe trail]

I’d give Scourge the Heretic and Innocence proves nothing a shot

They’re from Sandy Mitchell’s dark heresy stuff

[tall phoenix]

The Pharisene Paradox is one of my favs

[severe trail]

Oh yeah all the warhammer horror stuff involving the inqusition is top notch

[tall phoenix]

luv me Ordo Chronos shenanigans

[cerulean peak]

👀 it's even found it's way in an actual paper printing

[tall phoenix]

seriously though this short is great, I recommend anyone that can get it a read

[cerulean peak]

the paper book is oop and 250maplebucks on ebay ofc

[tall phoenix]

Its a Short story

why even get it on paper!!!

[cerulean peak]

Because there's a book containing other warhammer horror short stories

And warhammer horror is superior to regular warhammer

[tall phoenix]

thats an anthology!!!!

also true

[severe trail]

Warhammer crime is peak

I want more warhammer crime

GW please

[cerulean peak]

Off-brand warhammer is often better

I guess i'll just skip thousand sons and read my warhammer crime/horror backlog for spooky season

[tall phoenix]

Its the Andor-effect

[cerulean peak]

https://tenor.com/view/monkeys-paw-paw-monkey-gif-17535679

They'll release criminally-bad books in the near future

[tall phoenix]

AKA exploring aspect sof the setting nobody ever asked or cared about is sometimes way better than any mainline material.

[inner iris]

It's kinda wild that there aren't more inquisition books. Inquisitors are such a good foil for the setting.

[severe trail]

They show up in more supporting roles a lot

tbh

[ancient sierra]

So I finished 15 hours
Would have in one sitting if I wasn’t using it as a “bored at work” tool

[timber kernel]

Anyone here ever read forges of mars? Its fire isn't it

[drowsy urchin]

Yes they're good

[tall phoenix]

THE definitive admech book

even though its old the only real "modern" element its missing is largely just skitarii, and thats it really lol

you'd barely notice otherwise

[reef nacelle]

Those books definitely had skitarii

Though their description was a bit off

Like every time someone describes them in lore

[tall phoenix]

Yeha because Skitarii back then were basically dudes in clothes with some bionics

I even got an image of one hold on

[proven barn]

God that’s boring

[torn silo]

Yeah. Could easily take away the description there and they’d pass for guardsmen or PDF

[tall phoenix]

Yeah this was back when skitarii were non-existant

[drowsy urchin]

From what year is this

[proven barn]

Damn

[tall phoenix]

the dark ages

[drowsy urchin]

As in our time

[tall phoenix]

no no

[drowsy urchin]

When was the image made

[tall phoenix]

THE DARK-DARK AGES

[drowsy urchin]

So 2008

[tall phoenix]

like circa-2012+? Its from fantasy flight books

i forgot which since theres like 50 of them but lol

the admech relaunch was WAY later, let me look it up

Yeah 2015

[drowsy urchin]

That's funmy because skitarii did have cool mechanical dudes art long before that as well

[tall phoenix]

Yeah tho thats how they got the inspiration

i forgot where it was but Jes Goodwin during the launch was talking about how they specifically looked at those images for inspiration.

then he kinda just sketched em out and went wild

[drowsy urchin]

Ah, right. Odd that there was a small period where they looked like that then

[proven barn]

So they went from cool to guard with slightly more mechanical bits to cool again

[drowsy urchin]

Right

[tall phoenix]

Yeah basically a case of them just being nobodies

because like back then nobody was asking or caring what a "Skitarii" is

their model push is what made them be brought to the forefront which is cool now

[proven barn]

Skitarii were my second warhammer thing

Not counting the free Infernus Marine

Unfortunately only 5 are intact

2 are missing and 3 are partially intact just missing their arms

[tall phoenix]

🫡

Lost to the warp

[proven barn]

Don’t worry though 3 of them sit on the spot my TV is and another sits over on my desk

The Grey knights are worse

They are intact but mostly not painted

[tall phoenix]

based

[proven barn]

Only 2 are painted (some have the Leadbelcher on Atleast)

[sonic walrus]

Combine them into a mechanical monstrosity

[vale wren]

Just finished Silent King

"...for it is only with the help of men like you that I can save this Dark Imperium." are we deadass bl writers 💔

The last like of the book name-drops the name of the chronologically next series

[tall phoenix]

LMFAO YEAH

I legit fucking died laughing when it was over

i felt like i was going insane

[vale wren]

Suicide squad ass line

[tall phoenix]

its definitely not the worst

This isn't Horus's treachery no this is his HERESY

this one lives rent-free in my head

and yes, its real

[lofty thunder]

"his imperial fist"

[vale wren]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[tall phoenix]

anyway yeah Silent King sucks

genuinely such a extreme anti-climax book, by the time you finish it you are like:

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patchy-the-pirate-thats-it-disappointed-gif-27280238

[vale wren]

It reads like a filler dawn of fire book, which is fine for like book 3, but this is the finale

[tall phoenix]

It reads like a filler dawn of fire book

so like about half the series then, checks out

[vale wren]

Yup

[tall phoenix]

Also yeah like-

the issue is no matter what you did, you could not make this a satisfying ending

DoF's issue is we are SO past the events that happened in it that anything that happens in it means nothing.

[vale wren]

They could've at least killed someone whose name I remember

[tall phoenix]

Lmao true

its just such a weird book

the necron parts in it are great i guess? Otherwise like... yeah

[severe trail]

DoF felt like it had no plan

[vale wren]

It feels like they compromised a lot on what this book could have been because they had to fit with all the books that happen later, they were basically tying off loose ends

[severe trail]

It’s so meandering

[vale wren]

It's seems even in the 41st millennium the highest truth of all still holds

Nothing Ever Happens

[forest spruce]

Silent king should of came out like 5 years ago

[tall phoenix]

^^^

like

WE KNOW WHATS HAPPENING

THIS SHIT WAS WRAPPED UP YEARS AGO BRUH

[forest spruce]

Yeahhhhh

[tall phoenix]

yeah like in this very book they tease Cawl going to that Tyranid nommed world

that book came out in fucking 2019

anyway im just glad its over, just... man what a waste of time

[vale wren]

Waiter, more bolterslop please

[severe trail]

I read all of those books

Not worth it past the first 2

Aside from like

Sea of souls

[tall phoenix]

which is great

because it has nothing to do with the narrative of Dawn of Fire

[vale wren]

Aside from the books with your favorite faction, theres actually like 2-3 books worth reading in the series

[tall phoenix]

^

[severe trail]

Sea of souls should be like

In warhammer horror

lol

[tall phoenix]

Lmao yeah and standalone, its so good

its like a modern take on those REALLY old imperial navy novels

[severe trail]

Literally the best book to come out of DoF

[forest spruce]

Yeahhhhh dof is a waste of time

It's mostly Medicare novels

[tall phoenix]

It sucks because i remember when people were like "just let them cook, it will get good!"

😭

I had to witness the horror of like 5-6 users here reading Wolftime

and having generational trauma l

[forest spruce]

[tall phoenix]

[forest spruce]

I know I'm the freak of nature for liking that book

[tall phoenix]

[forest spruce]

We've been over this don't act suprised

[vale wren]

I liked it because I like space wolves and have read all their lore, but it really is a nothingburger

[forest spruce]

It should of been a standalone book

I think it would be better if it didn't have the connections to dof

Dilara is plotting to kill me for being a heretic

[vale wren]

I vaguely remember liking the scenes about Guilliman coming to Fenris, and the explorating of integrating Primaris marines into existing chapters, but I can barely remember the actual plot at all

Something about orks? Nothing happened basically

[forest spruce]

Its mostly about the integrations of primaries and ones journey to prove himself by doing the trail of morki

He does better than a neophyte though cause he isn't on the main land mass and instead has to cross an ocean

And yeah there's a Ork plot but honestly it's not really improtant

[vale wren]

It's basically just a book about space wolves, why is it in dawn of fire

[tall phoenix]

its also like

"GRRR WE DONT WANT PRIMARIS"

"Ok we want primaris."

damn, riveting

[vale wren]

It's certainly not groundbreaking

[forest spruce]

I just liked the primaries journey back to the fang

[stark quiver]

Listened to the Iron Snakes audiobook recently and I really enjoyed it. It was a really engaging look into the workings of a space marine chapter and I liked it a lot. Loved the first story most, I really liked the more personal feel and smaller scale of the events.

[tall phoenix]

Iron Snakes are like Abnett's almost on space marine Chapter so that checks out, hes very good at writing em

[drowsy urchin]

Been thinking about starting that one as well now that one of the Iron Snakes appeared in the Gaunt book I finished last

[wide mica]

Iron snakes was my first 40K book, it’s pretty good

[reef nacelle]

It's one of my favourite marine books

[digital ether]

Been reading the NL Omnibus lately, I finally get it now. It’s just so peak Night Lords-bros

[cerulean peak]

I've just started second book

Praise be ADB

[tacit trail]

Finished Watchers of the Throne: Emperor's Legion. Very fun, love the main characters

[mental cobalt]

sigismund and keeler made it to the hollow mountain

i'm assuming her faith and those she's with will relight the beacon

[tall phoenix]

Yeah pretty much

the power of friendship basically

[cursive gazelle]

Is there anything good about world of AoS in terms of setting and books? Been reading OW now and checked AoS but fuck I despise it

[tall phoenix]

I mean yes? Tons? Why do you think its successful and still around

though if you "despise" a setting this much I dont think any material can really sell you on it

[wise yew]

it's GWs second best selling setting

it has plenty of books and lore

[cursive gazelle]

That didnt excatly answer what I was looking for. Is it worth to spend time or no?

Since setting is very different

[wise yew]

yes it's a very good setting it has plenty of things going for it

[tall phoenix]

Its still WHF with some high fantasy elements, theres still people that are boots on the ground living like its warhammer fantasy as well, so the disconnect is not that huge.

[wise yew]

^

[wise yew]

Yeah there are the old factions and the new factions

[cursive gazelle]

Im just biased to ow because ive spent most of warhammer time with it. Getting rid of all places, notable characters etc. lowers intrest in new kind of world

I know they changed faction names for licensing but it feels bit uncessary

[wise yew]

OK i agree end times was absolutely horrible but here's the thing

the community blames AOS for everything that happened to fantasy, even though it was ended because it was hard for GWS company to maintain and actively hurting them so therefore people are just being annoying about it like some characters are still around for example Alariel

[cursive gazelle]

Its good that gw survived and I know they struggled long, but its good they expanded to games. They’ve been needing hit pieces for long like SM2 to get plebs into warhammer

[wise yew]

Here's what I can say give AOS a try because it's a genuinely good setting held back by the fan base taking it out on an innocent setting

[cursive gazelle]

Ok, is there any first books of the timeline to go for? Atm I have gotrek AoS omnibus. Not many paperbacks were available locally

I’d rather not get black library 25€ pdf. files

[wise yew]

Well the Horus heresy of AOS would be the realm gate wars

But I'm pretty sure you wouldn't wanna read the entirety of the equivalent of a horus heresy for a setting so if I were you

Overlords of the Iron Dragon

[severe trail]

I would read god eaters son personally

It’s a good introduction to AoS

[wise yew]

that too

[severe trail]

It’s a chaos book

But it has a lot of stuff for order

[wise yew]

god eater is very peak

[severe trail]

Imo the real gate war novels mostly suck

lol

Much like a large chunk of heresy

[wise yew]

it's the horus heresy of AOS it's bound to be boring

[shy lark]

I think the naming conventions for AoS are pretty bad but besides that Dark Harvest was a good read
It's a pretty neat setting

[wise yew]

The naming conventions can be off throwing but you get used it

[cursive gazelle]

I have to scour shops if there are these ones physically

[severe trail]

Oh physical

That’s goan be harder

[wise yew]

probably not gonna be the case those books are old

hmm

[severe trail]

Also the gotrek books in AoS are. fine

[cursive gazelle]

Theres a chance I could find. Theres physically whole horus heresy at one store

[severe trail]

It’s gotrek coping with a new world

[wise yew]

Yeah without Felix

It's hard to balance that walking knife crime

[cursive gazelle]

But I didnt buy. Wouldve cost 300€ to get all books from shelf

[shy lark]

I'm used to it by now but it's a little too corporate copyrighted® terms for me at times still

[severe trail]

I think the only AoS name I truly dislike is Orruk lol

[drowsy urchin]

y'all can just blame Chapterhouse for the awful naming schemes

[cursive gazelle]

Its not this?

[wise yew]

yeah it's a bit too corporate

[wise yew]

that right there is god eater's son

that's a good book

[shy lark]

It's the times we live in, it's a minor gripe. At least the Lumineth are cool

[cursive gazelle]

Damn, i suppose im going shopping tomorrow

[wise yew]

Spirit of the Mountains go hard

[cursive gazelle]

Is this one good

Ok this is good one, I just now want Nagash and Sundering physicals