coordination between RT and DT is enough i think
#40k-book-club
smoky bronze
oh cool scroll
i love how discord tells you when you're scrolled up except when it doesnt
where the hell was i even scrolled to it was above my last message here
unborn merlin
Pretty late because I was reading Jurassic Park the last few weeks but Era of Ruin is mid.
Patiently waiting for the Grammaticus trilogy.
tall phoenix
Pretty late because I was reading Jurassic Park the last few weeks but Era of Ru...
one of the most "why is this a thing" books ive read i think
they did a great job picking the most nonsensical subjects to make Shorts lol
simple cloud
Goddamn I finished anarch and boy was that a ride. Have to sleep now it’s like 4 am and I have work tomorrow lmao
unborn merlin
one of the most "why is this a thing" books ive read i think
If I had a nickel for every time Erebus kills a named character I'd have enough money to buy a Primarch model.
It's so redundant at this point.
lofty thunder
120 named characters
Amazing
tall phoenix
If I had a nickel for every time Erebus kills a named character I'd have enough ...
Narek's short was such a fucking weird inclusion ngl i enjoyed the Erebus cameo because it at least made it ALMOST memorable lol
unborn merlin
I was happy see him even if it was just for him to get stabbed.
Erebus jumpscare.
drowsy urchin
Narek's story was a bit odd inclusion but I guess it makes sense in a way because otherwise his story would've never been concluded otherwise I guess. But how many people really even remembered he existed
the rest of the stories ranged from ok to great imo
I loved ADB's story
and of course Wraight's Homebound
tall phoenix
"a bit" is really overdoing it
it was literally the most unnecessary one in there
Gav's was probably the one I hated the most.
drowsy urchin
Was it the obliterator virus one
tall phoenix
Yeah that one.
It was like... why is this here, again.
It doesnt explore anything like the landing of the actual legions on Terra for aid or anything just "oh we gotta clear the goonliterator virus from the lion's gate port and oh no everyone mostly dies" like... okay
drowsy urchin
only valid tie in is that they had to do that for the helping forces to be able to land properly but still it's not really anything interesting
smoky bronze
"And then a continent fell on terra... and then another continent... and then another continent"
tall phoenix
LOL
also yeah what Jerk said it was such a weird thing
I literally only liked Katsuhiro and that White Scars lady story
otherwise it felt like such a waste of Shorts
smoky bronze
The siege of terra should have gone "and then a continent fell on terra and it took 5 years for the resulting ash and dust to settle enough to resume landings"
I guess you can drop pod through the meteor winter
Good luck going up
smoky bronze
the funniest part to me is that because terra is a complete hive there's probably NO evidence remaining of any of the orbital attacks
tall phoenix
Well KIND of, the full hive city formation happened like later
it still had some actual empty lands and such
but as you say by now its 100% completely covered
smoky bronze
yeah but they would have had to patch over the giant craters in the process
tall phoenix
Lmao yeah
simple cloud
Gav Thorpe sucks
😦 he’s ok he’s like a mascot
And he’s a good lore keeper
smoky bronze
or well probably fill them with underhive lol
tall phoenix
I actually wrote a short once of a terran character
where she lives in like a "pit" hab
smoky bronze
i imagine its not easy to actually find the ground on terra
tall phoenix
and the reveal was its one of the original craters from orbital bombing nobody remembers from the Siege lol
tall phoenix
i imagine its not easy to actually find the ground on terra
the only remaining one is around the palace perimeter yea
simple cloud
I literally only liked Katsuhiro and that White Scars lady story
Ya my appreciation 4 this mid story collection was artificially inflated bc I was in a period where I kept tearing up at every story. 😐
But mostly this one
smoky bronze
i actually dont know what kind of crater you get from something that large but relatively slow moving
historical catastrophic impacts have been, well, a whole lot less massive
tall phoenix
it would depend on the explosion-radius thing i guess
also sci-fi so kinda hard to debate without a scientist
smoky bronze
i could do some back of the envelopes with some data but i'd have to dig it all up
i studied craters in an astronomy course
tall phoenix
lmao nice
smoky bronze
though a counfounding factor theres never even been a reason to study is what happens when the impactor is that WIDE
usually weird liquefaction stuff happens and the crater kinda splashes
but if the impactor is a rectangular prism 1km thick and 100km to a side??
tall phoenix
the only deep stuff ive seen 40k sometimes get into is the "hotness" of like some ship weapons they use turning sandy parts of a planet or whatever into glass which Halo also did
otherwise i dont really think ive ever read a book that goes into the scientific aspects of orbital bombardment
smoky bronze
it takes about 1.4MJ to melt a kilo of sand
i had to go find someone who'd already checked the enthalpy of fusion for me lol
did we ever even get sizes for the orbital plates
they're described as "floating continents" but, i mean
also i forgot that in the current canon modern terra has 0 plates i dont remember if that was a retcon or im remembering something that was set in the heresy
runic root
the only deep stuff ive seen 40k sometimes get into is the "hotness" of like som...
Well, technically the hottest explosions in 40k is whenever a ship-plasmadrive or a warpdrive gooes poof. Literally described as mini supernova
Btw has something like that happened planetside before?
smoky bronze
people have done all sorts of horrible stuff to planets in 40k
drowsy urchin
Well, technically the hottest explosions in 40k is whenever a ship-plasmadrive o...
didn't Khayon yeet a battle ship to a surface of a planet which then went big boom
smoky bronze
shattering cadia was probably the most energetic event caused by creatures in the setting
crashing a whole blackstone fortress into it pushed by a bunch of ships then blowing it up
the hottest thing in the 40k universe is probably still an AGN 
runic root
I know talos shot a minor cyclonic Torpedo into a moon or Asteroid to i think destroy a ship
Musthave been a big boom too
simple cloud
Battlefleet gothic had abaddon flying around in a Death Star Star destroyer for a while then everyone kinda forgot
runic root
didn't Khayon yeet a battle ship to a surface of a planet which then went big bo...
Havent read anything about the dusty booknerds yet
drowsy urchin
He's in the Black Legion books
simple cloud
drowsy urchin
very good books, wonder if we'll ever get the third
smoky bronze
chaos has so many goofy ships lol
simple cloud
Yes but we love em bc one features in the PEAK Warhammer novel
Everyone’s favorite
Battle
for
the
Abyss
Best book ever written
smoky bronze
i dunno what the actual biggest bomb in 40k is most of the superweapons are chain reaction type deals
cyclonic torpedos perpetuate through the atmosphere, a number of archaotech devices make planets break up by messing with physics, etc
it seems like it might still be fusion bombs
which does kinda make sense
tall phoenix
yeah dont put DAOT tech into account
since they work on the rule of "whatever the author/writer can make up for said narrative"
smoky bronze
i would if they were actually bombs but its not like they ever explode themselves to work
they're doohickey what makes the planet explode when you pull the lever
ok the biggest bomb is probably this naval MIRV that's 5x112 GIGATONS
the real life combined nuclear arsenal has never exceeded single digit gigatons
forest spruce
Biggest is probably a cyclonic torpedo
smoky bronze
Based on the descriptions those don't really work like bombs and more set the planet on fire with its own fuel
And you wouldnt need all the nukes ever built 100 times over to do it lol
That naval missile is a "scifi writers have no sense of scale" number
simple cloud
Based extinction event bomb
simple cloud
since they work on the rule of "whatever the author/writer can make up for said ...
NO THERE IS A FULLY WORKED OUT INTERNALLY CONSISTENT PHYSICS-BASED-
smoky bronze
Its honestly like child coming up with numbers type numbers
"My bomb is like 5 billion tons of tnt. And there's a hundred of them. Plus twelve."
forest spruce
The silent king is actually pretty good so far.
Macinus being pestered constantly to get drunk is funny to me
Also cawl being cawl
drowsy urchin
@tall phoenix it's happening
wise yew
<@166943308231344128> it's happening
@safe plover
Get ready for more HH Books
it looks like you're about to get back to work
shy lark
multi author multi book megaseries
tall phoenix
also jokes aside
i got no idea why people were like
"Naw GW said they arent doing the Scouring"
what are you, fucking stupid?
safe plover
cant wait for 5 more years until they release a short story thats actually after the siege
safe plover
You cant even read most of HH
SILENCE
i have listened to the books which is more than 99% of this discord
i tried reading cain but it was slop ok?
smoky bronze
cant wait for 5 more years until they release a short story thats actually after...
technically all the other books happen after the siege 
🙂
safe plover
🚬
tall phoenix
severe trail
God please be shorter 
they called it a mega serise
like dawn of fire
and siege of terra
right
RIGHT GUYS
I CAN'T DO THIS AGAIN
drowsy urchin
I can 
tall phoenix
**I CAN'T DO THIS AGAIN**
Im gonna laugh if it ends up being the same like DoF too
aka literally a nothing burger minus some highlight ala Iron Cage. What fuckign battles are there to even give a shit about in the Scouring, they need to make up so much stuff up
safe plover
NO
make it worse
longer
and make it not chronological
make every writer write exactly .4 of a book
severe trail
aka literally a nothing burger minus some highlight ala Iron Cage. What fuckign ...
It’s literally just the iron cage and chaos infighting
wide mica
Can't wait for the 12 book series focusing on the Iron Cage
runic root
Eh, i see this series as a succes. For my little Brother that is. He hates searching for Christmas/Birthday gifts so i'll just hand him the scouring series and get two per year, one in Oktober for bd and one in December for Xmas.
For several years If that is a big series
runic root
aka literally a nothing burger minus some highlight ala Iron Cage. What fuckign ...
As long as they make sense while making it up.
Also, when did dorn go mia? If he disappeared during the scouring they could make a connection to his inevitable revival (since they will bring back all (or most) primarchs eventually
fringe thorn
Already pre-ordered my next book of interest
brittle tapir
more slop for clad to review to the dismay of everybody
brittle tapir
Can't wait for the 12 book series focusing on the Iron Cage
a whole rule book campaign even
shy lark
now, you read something good 🙏 😔
simple cloud
now, you read something good 🙏 😔
🙄
tall phoenix
simple cloud
<:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926>
Wat u 2? I thought u liked gg
simple cloud
I do but I cannot pass up any moment to be a hater
Based
forest spruce
Read assassinorm kingmaker if you havnt
unborn merlin
She lives to hate.
forest spruce
Soooo I'm a bit confused about silent kings placement in the timeline
Because it seems like it takes place before gene father but also not
And like it's not two authors miscommunication about timeline because both books are from guy haley
tall phoenix
Because it seems like it takes place before gene father but also not
Its a bit of both.
Take a look at M41 and M42
its very much a clusterfuck, and most people dont even realise ALL of this is pre-Plague Wars
forest spruce
Seriously????
drowsy urchin
Dawn of Fire is the Indomitus Crusade series, which is before plague wars, yes
tall phoenix
^
its very very badly explained
I legit gotta commend the fans that try to make sense of this shit
forest spruce
When I write my story I'm gonna redact the fucking date
tall phoenix
Yeah lexi-users try to make as much sense as possible from given dates, even when they shift or move/get edited by future GW material, its a clusterfuck
unborn merlin
It's pretty funny when you read the Plague Wars and it feels like nothing happens for most of it. What a mess.
forest spruce
Gulliman spent a long time just going planet to planet
unborn merlin
Doesn't the Arks of Omen start before the Plague Wars too?
tall phoenix
Hold on
unborn merlin
I always get those two mixed up. If we go by that article then it does.
tall phoenix
- Arks of Omen is given as "Early M42"
Plague Wars is Circa 012.M42
GW really crams all these events way back in the timeline so it gets extremely confusing
forest spruce
M41 999 being a text wall
unborn merlin
The Lion just cruising for some Fallen cheeks while Girlyman has to fend off against Morty is so fucking funny to me.
tall phoenix
M41 999 being a text wall
thats the funniest one because for like 20 IRL years that was the timeline we were stuck on, so its absolutely packed
tall phoenix
The Lion just cruising for some Fallen cheeks while Girlyman has to fend off aga...
He legit goes around like hes fucking Arthur Morgan
Sidequest
Sidequest
Sidequest
Sidequest
Sidequest
forest spruce
tall phoenix
EVERY. TIME.
unborn merlin
tall phoenix
Like even in this book hes talking about planet-hopping to another location like ffs SIT STILL
unborn merlin
Bro is just galavanting.
unborn merlin
You'll get more a Lion in the twelve part arc when he drives his Rari back to Caliban.
Circa 2055
forest spruce
I already read arks of omen
unborn merlin
Nah nah, this is the prequel.
forest spruce
Classic guy haley making a random human in a terrible situation only to die in a horrific way
severe trail
Doesn't the Arks of Omen start before the Plague Wars too?
It doesn’t
It happens after plague wars
It chronologically happens after the other warzone/crusade books
We had a warzone book for plague war in 8e
shy lark
8 years ago already yea
tall phoenix
yeah it was like 15 years ago
runic root
Time is the fire in which we all burn
mental cobalt
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Timeline
was dawn of fire m42
tall phoenix
was dawn of fire m42
M42
mental cobalt
what is the latest stories
as in
which series takes part m42 and later
is bequin around there
tall phoenix
No idea, they are stuck in their own timeline rn
mental cobalt
OH, cain is around there
tall phoenix
Yeah the author prob had no idea what was even gonna happen in M42 in like 10 years lol
mental cobalt
i would so be down for nothing but stories to keep coming out past the latest century to make new content
it's like star wars for me
i don't care about the same timeline being revisited
give me future stuff
i'm tired of hearing about skywalkers
if anything, give us old republic
the dawning of the jedi era
Though i would like a series about ullanor campaign
that could be fun
all the primarchs being loyalist
seeing how well they get along
(when they do)
tall phoenix
It was how it was before Gathering Storm yeah
if you look at M40/41 its filled with fluff on that timeline page
nowadays its just packed with weird side stuff
left meteor
I have just picked up Dark Imperium Godblight, and I asked the Warhammer store worker which book should I read next to get caught up to current events, he said Avenging Son and that 10 book series, but google says The Devastation of Baal. What is next?
tall phoenix
Devastation of Baal takes place before and during the opening of the Great Rift, its like the big climactic part of the battle when they are about to get wiped out by Nids.
as for the Indomitus books eurghhh hold on
tall phoenix
I have just picked up Dark Imperium Godblight, and I asked the Warhammer store w...
Follow this on lexi as your guide but DO NOT listen to that shopkeep, you do not have to read all 10+ book series of Dawn of Fire, its a very bookbait series and some of the novels have NOTHING to do with the Indomitus Crusade.
If you got questions on the quality/which ones to read just ask them here
left meteor
Follow this on lexi as your guide but DO NOT listen to that shopkeep, you **do n...
Ah okay so he's just trying to get me to buy more lol So follow what is says on Lexi gotcha thank you
tall phoenix
Lmao yeah basically. Their job is to make you buy more stuff, just read the lexi + look at what interests you and buy those instead, no worries.
Dawn of Fire unfortunately suffers from having a lot of mediocre books, it just completed itself a few days ago with the release of the last book in the series after like 5 years since its launch on 2020.
left meteor
I have not long started reading the books, so I started on this Dark imperium series as I was told its a good starting point. The plan is to get caught up to current events, than just pick books out I enjoy the sound of or have good ratings etc
forest spruce
Dawn of Fire unfortunately suffers from having **a lot** of mediocre books, it j...
I tortured myself with dawn of fire.
Do not read it
tall phoenix
LMAO DUDE
unborn merlin
I have just picked up Dark Imperium Godblight, and I asked the Warhammer store w...
Find a different store 
Jkjk
tall phoenix
Yeah basically just pick the ones you wanna read and maybe ask here if they are good, again Dawn of Fire is like really subjective for a lot of the fanbase
its not that most of them are bad, its just mediocre
forest spruce
Current books that are good are the great work, gene father, watchers of the throne. lion son of the Forest
unborn merlin
Most of us here don't enjoy the Dawn of Fire series. It's also like what, 10 books?
simple cloud
Wait but the Chris Wraight one is supposed to be good right
unborn merlin
So that'll take some time and dedication you could spend on better series.
simple cloud
Current books that are good are the great work, gene father, watchers of the thr...
Ya and genefather is kinda mid + Lion is mid and also somehow reads like teen fiction
tall phoenix
Most of us here don't enjoy the Dawn of Fire series. It's also like what, 10 boo...
Its not even here is the thing, its a rare case where a lot of peopel agree its just a bad series.
forest spruce
Dawn of fire books worth reading are avenging son gate of bone, wolf time (personal opinion, many do not like it), throne of light, maybe hand of abbadon, and finally I've been enjoying silent king
unborn merlin
Imagine waiting that long and only to find out most of the books in the series are mid.
tall phoenix
5 years
unborn merlin
Looks at HH.
tall phoenix
LOL
unborn merlin
simple cloud
Ya that’s the one
tall phoenix
"Such an amazing and fun read. Shame it has nothing to do with the fucking Indomitus Crusade."
forest spruce
I skipped that one
unborn merlin
I still need to check it out. Reading the Word Bearers trilogy rn.
simple cloud
U saw a Chris Wraight book & u skipped it?
forest spruce
Credits don't grow on trees
unborn merlin
He did technically write Warhawk and I didn't care much for it. Automatically dead to me for life.
Wraight writes like a lot. Can't read them all.
left meteor
Alright thanks guys, its given me a pretty good idea! ❤️
simple cloud
Don’t like Warhawk?! But how else will I get my 13 hours of Toby Longworth as Ming the Merciless
unborn merlin
KEK
forest spruce
I love chris' writing but yeah it was one of the ones that got skipped just like iron kingdom
tall phoenix
Alright thanks guys, its given me a pretty good idea! ❤️
We try lmao
Warhawk is good but I do not give a shit about the Deathguard or White Scar wankery so even while I read it i ended up skimming by the end
Khagan this Khagan dad
Ordu this Ordu my mom
Khan this, Khan that, Khan deez nuts
JESUS SHUT UP
I GET IT, YOU READ THE MONGOL TERMINOLOGY PAGE
forest spruce
Begone thot
unborn merlin
simple cloud
Lmao what is happening in here
simple cloud
Omfg
forest spruce
Idk bro I'm going crazy
simple cloud
JESUS SHUT UP
Yes it’s tedious
tall phoenix
Genuinely lol
but people like it so thats fine
i just didnt care too much about it, im more of a Echoes/Saturnine fan
tall phoenix
LMFAO
simple cloud
Echoes was… what was echoes
I have a vague feeling it was good
But I don’t really remember it
Possibly it’s the effect of the lobotomy
unborn merlin
Sanguinius wank fest.
wide mica
Not 40k, but I'm reading Babel rn, it's the most autistic book I've ever read
unborn merlin
It was pretty fucking awesome so it can be forgiven.
simple cloud
o I kno I kno and the HURR DURR HE BOWED TO THEM flashback
simple cloud
Not 40k, but I'm reading Babel rn, it's the most autistic book I've ever read
based
unborn merlin
You read it for birdboy but stay for the World Eaters and Blood Angels lore dumps.
wide mica
Not 40k, but I'm reading Babel rn, it's the most autistic book I've ever read
It starts with a foreword where the author says it's historical fiction and then lists every historical inaccuracy that is going to be in the book and that it was all a deliberate decision to enhance the story in some way rather than a mistake or oversight during their research.
and almost every page has a glossary at the bottom where they give context that a Victorian person would know of what was said or happened, that a modern person wouldn't necessarily know.
simple cloud
Self awareness is overrated
mental cobalt
after the lost and the damned, i'm like 
when it comes to haley...
unborn merlin
I think his stuff lands more than it misses.
I like his more humorous books, maybe not so much the bolter porn ones.
high willow
Every 40k author sucks -this server
simple cloud
Every 40k author sucks -this server
based & 40k-book-club pilled
tall phoenix
Every 40k author sucks -this server
mental cobalt
abnett is best!!!
echoes is good and it's my first adb book
sandy mitchell and robert rath>>>
i will read denny flowers soon
tall phoenix
Flowers is usually very good
mental cobalt
y'all talked me into outgunned and above and beyond just released on paperback i think
tall phoenix
y'all talked me into outgunned and above and beyond just released on paperback i...
heres the reading order just incase
the Shorts are a must-read!
simple cloud
That’s so many how am I supposed 2 do all those when I can’t even read
mental cobalt
audiobook!!!
wide mica
That’s so many how am I supposed 2 do all those when I can’t even read
The shorts are pretty short
and Above and Beyond is genuine Peak
shy lark
Look at the cover until information is absorbed via osmosis
severe trail
Above and beyond is peak
fringe thorn
Are the warhammer crime novels easy to buy as physical books or am I to expect black market organ money to get any of them?
simple cloud
and Above and Beyond is genuine Peak
Ok ok ok ok ok ok
Will do this series next.
Doing Vincula now — last GG book. Finished Anarch.
forest spruce
Ok before the NyQuil takes me out
I think qov is one of my favorite supporting characters
He's just got this charm
tall phoenix
Hes really good in Genefather too
fringe thorn
The oldest Crime novel, Bloodlines, was originally more or less $15 is now being sold for $45-50 on the used market
tall phoenix
The oldest Crime novel, Bloodlines, was originally more or less $15 is now being...
Bruh
this shit is why I just epub
idk how yall do physical books
forest spruce
I only get the super cheap ones
If a books more than 20 bucks I'm not buying a physical
I mostly audio or epub
fringe thorn
At least the Crime novels have no reading order (yet) so guess I'll pick up the more recent ones
tall phoenix
they KINDA do
but like its literally just
story/short starts
"OH HEY its that one guy!"
Their reading order is also just the release dates, you will just sometimes see a character from a previous story you might recognize or etc.
fringe thorn
tall phoenix
Yeah after that its anyones game
severe trail
its got the most background lore on Alecto and vargaunta
tall phoenix
^
you will be less confused
"Whats a Chastener? Do they Chasten my boots???"
me reading
fringe thorn
Yeah, I would like to read Bloodlines in a physical copy, not ebook format
forest spruce
tall phoenix
wide mica
idk how yall do physical books
It makes me look fancy sitting in the breakroom reading a chonky ass book
shy lark
'spensive tho
fringe thorn
I have read textbooks as ebooks so much to complete my Bachelor's that I have a general distaste for ebooks.
forest spruce
I listen to books between phonecalls or on my breaks
forest spruce
Yes yes I do dispise poors next question
shy lark
I'd like to get big chonkyass books and special editions but I ain't spending that money
wide mica
Also people are less likely to talk to you if you're reading a book, than they are if you're reading on your phone
forest spruce
I'd love to get the lion limited ed book but we all know that ain't happening
wide mica
I only have one limited edition (Ushoran), I really want to get my hands on a Limited edition Honourbound copy of though
fringe thorn
Also people are less likely to talk to you if you're reading a book, than they a...
Belisarius Cawl The Great Work-Special Edition says otherwise
forest spruce
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/AAgAAOSw3~xoRuv4/s-l1200.png
That's fucking dope
fringe thorn
That hardcover gonna attract eyes
tall phoenix
Bruh
mfers made a commissar novel look like same game of thrones romance novel cover
MID!
🗣️
forest spruce
Lion book
tall phoenix
forest spruce
mfers made a commissar novel look like same game of thrones romance novel cover
I was gonna say the same thing
tall phoenix
Lmao RIGHT
wide mica
I like it
wide mica
forest spruce
I would like if papa nurgle would stop blessing me for five God damn minutes
I feel like gw should make a tech priest primer book for maintenance and repair
Kinda like the guardsman primer but for techies
mental cobalt
i want perturabo to find a way to exploit the daemon in him then remove him just so he can be a normal traitor primarch
mental cobalt
WELL I WANT HIM TO NOT BE A DAEMON ANYMORE
speaking of daemons
i think the coolest daemon introduction was cherubael in eisenhorn
mental cobalt
i remember it
mental cobalt
*get rid of it*
😔
severe trail
Cherubael is cool
mental cobalt
he really is
especially in bequin
he actually feels intimate calling her little thing
it's like he accepts he's a slave and just tries to live it the best he can
if that makes sense
i hated reading him fighting that angel
i'm pretty sure he killed it too
that sanguinius blood angel clone or whatever they were
abnett made a masterpiece with penitent
simple cloud
Adfjehwbdhr need more bequin
I love her first-person voice
Abnett’s best writing imo
eager rose
he really is
I swear I’ve seen this guys bald head before in a different discord server
mental cobalt
I swear I’ve seen this guys bald head before in a different discord server
maybe in space marine 2 server
i was there for a while
mental cobalt
summer beacon
who knows that the emperor is a perpetual?
cause id figure if someone did theyd make a play to take him off the throne
severe trail
cause id figure if someone did theyd make a play to take him off the throne
If he gets off the throne a new asshole gets torn in reality and a chaos god might get born via the new tear in reality the size of the eye of terror if not bigger forming
smoky bronze
Its not known that the emperor is perpetual in the way say, grammaticus is, and would actually come back to life
He doesn't age but i don't think anyone ever managed to kill him
And yeah that aside the intermediate time would be pretty bad
Theres a bunch of radical sects that want to try that sort of thing but more sane people won't let them
smoky bronze
Its not known that the emperor is perpetual in the way say, grammaticus is, and ...
Didnt horus also get him with an evil chaos weapon? We've seen sufficiently invested objects kill perpetuals, the emperor's own sword can do it
mental cobalt
echoes of eternity's chapters have some crazy length some times
one chapter is like 4 pages
then another is 30
I like doing a chapter here and there throughout the day, sometimes 2 at a time
But this one took TIME
tall phoenix
thats how i felt reading End and the Death 💀
runic root
Cant wait for clads take on those books 💀
Oh, no, wait, we have 😂
"mY KInG Of aGEs" 🚬
mental cobalt
thats how i felt reading End and the Death 💀
please don't say this 😭
mental cobalt
I HATE THAT
tall phoenix
There is no escape!
waxen patio
hello book people
what are your favorite series involving the imperial guard?
I read gaunts ghosts and loved it and need more
tall phoenix
Theres some but id highly recommend this one
Its a very fun book
The Macharius trilogy is also an old but extremely underrated series
shy lark
You only need 15 Hours
tall phoenix
15 Hours is if you want maximum depression
cerulean peak
I'm almost done with Harrowmaster. Finally things are happening
tall phoenix
(which isnt a bad thing lol)
cerulean peak
Alpha legion are really jobbers. Shame the inquisition is even more incompetent somehow
tall phoenix
Lmao jobbers?
also wdym somehow
they are literally 2 Inquisitors infighting during the entire operation due to petty feuds
tall phoenix
Its one of the best parts of the book imo lol
cerulean peak
I blame the puritan
tall phoenix
Nah its 90% very much her fault yeah lol
literally ruins our entire flow GET OUT OF MY SHIP
cerulean peak
(In all honesty the radical is pretty fucking dumb tho)
tall phoenix
I mean hes blinded by revenge
cerulean peak
I love how the primaris are portrayed as shitters
tall phoenix
I wouldnt really say shitters
they are brand new, they just dont understand the alpha legion
which is like. kinda fair lol
cerulean peak
Especially the first scene where they are overconfident af and they just get stomped
tall phoenix
Yeah its one of my fav part sof the book
also I LOVE how they emphasize the warband leader dude on the opening credits text
and he just gets killed
cerulean peak
What should I read next; i'm probably finishing the novel tonight
tall phoenix
Solomon is like WAY down the cast of Alphas too which is funny
tall phoenix
What should I read next; i'm probably finishing the novel tonight
you are my next victim
📖
smoky bronze
they got a lot of mileage out of that one drawing of her lol
cerulean peak
Mhm I think I do have Outgunned in the pile somewhere
tall phoenix
they got a lot of mileage out of that one drawing of her lol
Short Stories love re-using art
smoky bronze
"you kept it saved as layers right"
"yeah"
"good"
tall phoenix
Mhm I think I do have Outgunned in the pile somewhere
Highly recommend reading Starstruck then Own Worst Enemy before you move to Above and Beyond
it actually adds to the plot of the 2 books, its really good shit
Above is also like one of my favorite 40k books ever i think
cerulean peak
I take theyre not included in the physical copy
tall phoenix
Yeah this series is not really that famous so alas no
severe trail
I wish it was
tall phoenix
same
tall phoenix
🙏
cerulean peak
Probably in the omnibus in 5-10 years
unborn merlin
Harrowmaster was great even if the twist at the end was pretty obvious.
tall phoenix
Im gonna be frank i did not expect it
tho i did have the biggest shit eating grin when it happened
unborn merlin
I kinda expected it halfway. Originally I thought it was going to be the puritan Inquisitor but also ya know, Alpha Legion.
It was a cool reveal nonetheless.
cerulean peak
Goin' dark now . Getting spoilery here 🫥
tall phoenix
YEET
unborn merlin
tall phoenix
yeah Reynolds quit post-Bile iirc
unborn merlin
Both Reynolds were pretty great honestly.
tall phoenix
yeah I dont really blame him for quitting
Black Library can be awful to work with lol
unborn merlin
Unless you're like Thorpe or Abnett. Then you can do anything.
tall phoenix
Yeah they are the real old guard
they got enough influence to mostly do what they want minus some restrictions.
Gav was writing rulebooks/lore for GW before most people here were like even born lol
deft bramble
is this a threat?..
silk laurel
I keep seeing that book on audible, I couldnt get into double eagle so I ruled out getting aviation based imperium books
I did like denny flowers short story in da red gobbo collection though
cerulean peak
At the end of Harrowmaster ||the inquisitor raises the pyro witch to full inquisitor and they seem to be a lot of emphasis on her name. || I feel like the book expects me to react to this. Should I know this character from somewhere else?
tall phoenix
At the end of Harrowmaster ||the inquisitor raises the pyro witch to full inquis...
Yeah shes from Rites of Passage lmaooo
tall phoenix
I keep seeing that book on audible, I couldnt get into double eagle so I ruled o...
Its not as much of a aeronautica book as its a novel based on the life of a aeronautica ace, its protagonist is a propagandist whos ironically not a horrible person trying to make what he can out of the situation i nthe planet hes sent to being slowly taken ove rby orks
I bought it expecting aircraft slop and got based af character things instead
silk laurel
sorta ciaphas cain adjacent thing then, comparison due to lack of anything else similar
cerulean peak
Got an email from amazon; above and beyond just released paperback. It's a sign.
(Ravenor omnibus too)
silk laurel
might get one of the books then
tall phoenix
might get one of the books then
Get Outgunned
its a series so you will be confused otherwise, its the first in the duology
silk laurel
I was looking at it
tall phoenix
and yeah id kinda say Caiphas Cain-ish but its a very much more taken seriously
theres some funny its still though, but comedic and dark humor'y lol
"WE LEFT MY PROPAGANDA SKULL BEHIND!"
"Who?"
silk laurel
yeah thats my sort of jam, double eagle put me off because of the plane jibberish fights
tall phoenix
SAME.
I get why people love it but im just not into WW2 plane-wank jargon sorry guys lol
in that case yeah the book barely has any of that in it, it just sometimes covers basic things regarding Thunderbolts, Lightnings etc, its much more focused on the pilots from the view of the protagonist Kile Simlex himself
its one of the best "whew close calls" of the book for me since i bought it expecting plane-junk
silk laurel
felt like I'd read most imperial guard books I was interested in, was moving off warhammer stuff/taking a break from it, this'll be a good return I'll get it to listen to tomorrow in audiobook form while I work
tall phoenix
If you want some more I.G stuff id also highly recommend Fall of Cadia
another fun book with lots of guard focus but also tons of POV swaps during the battle for Cadia
silk laurel
I'd avoided that knowing what already happens on cadia but that frames it a bit more interesting, not covering the overall ordeal
tall phoenix
To be fair we barely know most of the POVs on Cadia as per Gathering Storm, its an incredibly general coverage of it on that one.
here you see what every side of the battle feels, the Cadians, Kasrkin, Chaos Marines, Loyalist Astartes, Admirals, Abaddon, hell even Trazyn, its great
you also get to see Creed being a alcoholic mess ala Churchill trying to keep it all together, its some real good shit
silk laurel
oh that does sound fun
I'd stayed away from the krieg books too, I heard a big chunk of them is logistics
tall phoenix
Its not even logistics
Krieg books are just... mid
they are very medicore due to them ALWAYS being by Steve Lyons and nobody else, it gets very stale when hes been writign about them for like 20 IRL years
silk laurel
damn
tall phoenix
yeaaah lol
people like
only recommend Dead Men Walking and nothing else, and that book is like a decade old lol
silk laurel
its funny to see the differences in old books like gaunts ghosts, I read a few of those
cerulean peak
Dilara recommending something from Lyons 👀 ||it's his best novel||
tall phoenix
its funny to see the differences in old books like gaunts ghosts, I read a few o...
My favorite is how they are so old they use the old gimp mandrakes
and not the new updated shadow monster versions
cerulean peak
You WILL enjoy gas mask and trench shovel memes
silk laurel
Ciaphas cain made me like the bland valhallans
tall phoenix
yeah because Valhallans got fucking character
and arent just "Mhm sure for the Emperor ill go die now"
silk laurel
it's a lot of "We love the cold!"
tall phoenix
something-something insert soviet russian memes here
silk laurel
was surprised by deathworlder enjoyed that book
silk laurel
I got rain rn
deft bramble
yesterday is was was 35 C, like Sahara desert, and now people are resquing their kids from their cars, knees in water
silk laurel
yesterday had insane rain, earlier it was very hot, now the rain begins again
quartz path
Krieg books are just... mid
I had planned to just get the book titled "KRIEG" bcuz I haven't read anything about them
Turn through the book real fast, I see "The Cadians and Kriegers..." and I just immediately put the book back onto the shelf
tall phoenix
My favorite part about that book is it has a present-time battle thing in the novel as the plot and flashbacks showing the entire origin of the planet Krieg right?
And almost all the readers say the flashbacks where you see the origin of the planet/regiment itself is better than actually reading the present-time stuff about Kriegsmen themselves
quartz path
Not trying to act like "oh i love everything besides the mainstream" but I don't know if I'd want a book that's nothing but talking about the most recorded and chronicled regiments in 40k
Maybe to clear up misinformation that the internet spreads, but if beyond that it's just glazing then I won't bother 😔
tall phoenix
Yeah it really doesnt have much
quartz path
Oh boy, what's something new I can learn from this book?
"the kriegers are beyond the best and coolest awesome legions in the imperium"
safe plover
how do kreigers even speak with the gasmasks on?
i feel like it should all be pyro voice lines
shy lark
And almost all the readers say the flashbacks where you see the origin of the pl...
It's the most Steve Lyons novel possible, I really liked the flashback stuff but it's drowned out by a mid story with some neat parts
cerulean peak
Best Krieg is ||Krieg Acerbus||
trim ermine
Do you guys have any recommendations for books about the imperial fists?
shy lark
Storm of Iron
I don't think there's really any outstanding Imperial Fists novels but maybe Seventh Retribution
shy lark
I heard there's some good short stories but I never really read them
cerulean peak
Otherwise you might have more luck with successor chapters
shy lark
There's also the 30k novels but I hardly read any of them
trim ermine
All right, thanks!
unborn merlin
Do you guys have any recommendations for books about the imperial fists?
Praetorian of Dorn.
It's also a great Alpha Legion book too.
storm kettle
Why does all higher command despise gaunts ghosts so much
They always seem to have some fight with authority in their books
tall phoenix
Why does all higher command despise gaunts ghosts so much
Because the Imperium is a corrupt shithole
simple cloud
Tall poppy syndrome
tall phoenix
and the people in charge came to power through nepotism and other IRL military nonsense
simple cloud
Exported straight from the UK 2 the imperium
storm kettle
Because the Imperium is a corrupt shithole
Have they considered they shouldn’t do that because they are the good guys?
The amount of hate they get just seems kinda extreme sometimes
celest heron
I mean haunts ghosts is based on sharpes rifles
storm kettle
Like getting barraged by friendly artillery because they didn’t care the ghosts were there
celest heron
Where every single gentleman officer despised the unit
tall phoenix
Have they considered they shouldn’t do that because they are the good guys?
Have you considered they are just awful people
"why is military command so mean"
runic root
i feel like it should all be pyro voice lines
"do you believe in magic" 🦄🔥😂😂😂
Its the most scary trailer ive ever seen. But also surreal. Almost Monty Python esque
shrewd silo
They always seem to have some fight with authority in their books
Because guant is to OP since he's the main character.
In some books he's just a commander commissar but over the course of the book becomes the defacto head of the army after the command is shown to be incomptaint
tall phoenix
It doesnt really have much to do with him being the main character
its a homage to Sharpe's Rifles which is just what Gaunt rips off, officers of that age which 40k also copies had all sorts of pettiness, nepotism and assholery to them, the Imperium just enhances it since everyone in its institutions are usually awful people
simple cloud
its a homage to Sharpe's Rifles which is just what Gaunt rips off, officers of t...
How dare u suggest GG is derivative
tall phoenix
How dare u suggest GG is derivative
smoky bronze
Gaunt's also very much considered an upstart compared to the people hes on a command level with usually
Rising from the commisariat to a pretty damn high standard rank instead of being from a military family etc etc
Hes a guy from the schola
Also they kinda made up his rank just for him to make a problem go away lol
"What do you mean the planet blew up with everyone we planned to lead the army? Theres still one commisar? Eh put him officially in charge i guess"
celest heron
How dare u suggest GG is derivative
Sean bean said winter is coming
celest heron
Rising from the commisariat to a pretty damn high standard rank instead of being...
Still not sure how comissariat is considered lower than traditional military
tall phoenix
because at the end of the day they are still political officers
their ranks/influence depends on the warzone as well
runic root
Still not sure how comissariat is considered lower than traditional military
Commissars are weird. Their authority mainly resides in enforcing morale, order, and adhearance to laws and military code. They are in that regard much more akin to a space marine chaplin.
Their rank and authority in regards to strategy and tactics varies wildly.
Can a commissar lead a planetary assault? Yes.
Can a commissar lead a starship instead of a captain? Also yes
Can he accompany a squad of infantry thats being lead by a corporal, just sticking to enforcing the emperors law and maintaining morale, leaving the operational and tactical leadership to the corporal? Yes
That's the finnicky part about commissars. They can lead military operations, all the way up to planetary or sector defense. But they dont always do. Their main role is loyalty ensurance and the maintaining of order and discipline.
celest heron
Commissars are weird. Their authority mainly resides in enforcing morale, order,...
Yup, but bitching at a commisar when you are just say a colonel is just dumb. Bad politics and shows why they would never become generals
tall phoenix
I mean you are still a higher ranking person in the Guard, you are allowed to do that and it still happens IRL.
And they would probably still become generals due to systematic corruption/nepotism
its kinda the point
celest heron
And they would *probably* still become generals due to systematic corruption/nep...
This makes sense in sharpes rifles, because what is the mustang officer going to do
runic root
Depends on the bitching. If your bitching doesnt qualify as "heresy", "cowardice","damaging to morale" , "questioning of authority " or disobedience/treason", you should be good.
celest heron
When you are fucking around with a parallely powerful office (baby commisar will go complain to daddy commisar)
tall phoenix
When you are fucking around with a parallely powerful office (baby commisar will...
A commissar's power goes as far as they can throw it
they cant just randomly accuse and execute officers of big ranks either
then its their head on the block
unless theres a proper standing charge it will almost always go nowhere
runic root
Plenty are the graves of commissars who didnt have the muscle to back up their authority. Ask the catachans 😂
tall phoenix
Cowardice
Its incompetence.
the imperial bureucracy is filled with it
commissars included
celest heron
Oh yeah
The thing is with these nobles I feel like the only thing they know should be politics
Because thats all their fatasses need to succeed
celest heron
look at nobility in history and the type we got IRL
Their is no parallel to a commisariat and mobility power structures though
tall phoenix
I mean there kinda is from history
its their entire inspiration lol
and we arent talking about commissars, we are talking about nobles
celest heron
and we arent talking about commissars, we are talking about nobles
My issue is not that the nobles are stupid though
Its that nobility somehow doesnt know how to deal with parallel power structures that are pretty much the only thing capable of murdering them
Like they wouldn't act outright hostile to an ecclesiarch outside of snide remarks, as opposed to actively denigrating the commisariat
tall phoenix
Like they wouldn't act outright hostile to an ecclesiarch outside of snide remar...
Again as ever it depends.
Power is power.
celest heron
I guess
tall phoenix
Theres no "default" form to this stuff.
you are also doing the greatest mistake of trying to logistically think about warhammer
celest heron
Just the one difference that makes no sense to me from the sharpes rifles (where the officers hate sharpe for a reason)
tall phoenix
We got a president IRL who stopped a government agency from giving weather/storm data to a forecasting center not caring its probably gonna kill/injure thousands.
The stupidity of our beings goes deep lol
wide mica
Just the one difference that makes no sense to me from the sharpes rifles (where...
They kinda hate Sharpe for no reason
It's a running trend that it's only the incompetent officers which hate him
wide mica
and they hate him because him being good threatens their innate sense of superiority. While the actual competent officers don't give a damn, they just know Sharpe can get it done.
celest heron
They kinda hate Sharpe for no reason
no they hate him for being a mustang
tall phoenix
Sharpe is a car???
celest heron
He is an outsider entering their gentlemeans club
tall phoenix
what episode is this
wide mica
I must have missed a chapter, I don't recall him being a horse
celest heron
Mustang is a term for enlisted becoming an officer
wide mica
If anything I'd respect a horse more if it became a Rifleman
celest heron
If anything I'd respect a horse more if it became a Rifleman
Idk a car is even more wild
wide mica
Na just wire up a rifle to a dash cam and you're on that sorted
celest heron
Na just wire up a rifle to a dash cam and you're on that sorted
Do you know what makes good soldiering
runic root
I guess
All flows as the author wills it and as much as the big dogs at GW can be assed to micromanage him.
All that matters is that you buy the slop.
All else falls flat to that.
Worldbuilding. Plot. Sense. Everything.
Pay them money and shut up 😂
celest heron
Firing 3 shots a minute while going over 90mph
simple cloud
Commissars are weird. Their authority mainly resides in enforcing morale, order,...
Ya there’s a pretty consistent thread that they kinda third wheel it a lot. They’re feared bc they specifically are the schoolmarms not bc of absolute authority the way the Inquisition is.
smoky bronze
they're often a huge pain to the rest of the regiment yeah lol
the inquisition is the monster in the closet but the commisar is the angry goblin punching you in the shin
silk laurel
read a decent chunk of outgunned it's definitely the type of warhammer book I like
silk laurel
reminds me a bit of assassinorum kingmaker, That book has a lot of personality for a book about imperial assassins
silk laurel
I like snarky characters,its why I like cain
tall phoenix
Shard definitely overtakes him in that regard
shes an absolute cunt, I love her lol
tall phoenix
thats a nice way to put it
yeah definitely, he relies more on quips
Shard meanwhile is like
"Fuck off, im drinking."
silk laurel
and people think he's praising them
tall phoenix
yeee
silk laurel
big fan of shard in that way, very strong intro on her
tall phoenix
yeah the book doesnt explore her too much, thats all for Above and Beyond which goes REALLY deep into it
you will also see some more of her in the Shorts you gotta read before you start Above, highly recommend it
silk laurel
Be assured I'm getting it next
silk laurel
I'm glad to have found it, as you've said there isnt much like it
gone through most the series I care for gaunts ghosts has moments but overall is drier
This sorta stuff also inspires me to keep my bi-weekly dark heresy 2e game going
tall phoenix
Yeah im just happy to introduce more people to it, comparing it to Kingmaker is also very apt imo. Again its a serious but also a simply Fun™ novel, im not against depresso marine bolter go bang-bang novels but little niche books like this always grab my interest more.
silk laurel
I like a few of the space marine books but saying that the ones I like most are the night lords trilogy because theres personality there with characters like septimus the chapter serf
silk laurel
Yeah im just happy to introduce more people to it, comparing it to Kingmaker is ...
agree completely on that, these more isolated characters in fun books are what I most look for even outside warhammer books
tall phoenix
Yea amidst my top 40k books theres only like 1 space marine one and thats Lukas the Trickster lol
silk laurel
I've only read kingmaker from that group
deft bramble
Yea amidst my top 40k books theres only like *1* space marine one and thats Luka...
wdym wraithbone phoenix is not in your top...
silk laurel
One book I'm getting soon is grotsnik, which denny flowers wrote also
tall phoenix
wdym wraithbone phoenix is not in your top...
I like it but its not a book I fell in love with
AAA-
NO
deft bramble
tall phoenix
I've only read kingmaker from that group
Id highly recommend Lukas, Watcher in the Rain (which is an audio drama), Rites of Passage and Farseer as well
very fun adventure books
silk laurel
wraithbone phoenix was great
silk laurel
very fun adventure books
noted, they'll go on the list
tall phoenix
I hated the ending
just felt like more needless eldar sadporn
otherwise really good novel
reef nacelle
Is that an Eldar book?
silk laurel
it was a few months back I'm mind blanking on it
reef nacelle
TWO eldar books
tall phoenix
Is that an *Eldar* book?
Its a human- well, abhuman duo adventure book with a later appearance mute eldar ranger character.
tall phoenix
it was a few months back I'm mind blanking on it
The mcguffin just ||turns out to be a demonic artifact that sucks the soul of the eldar ranger that wanted to take it back home to her craftworld lmao||
so basically the entire journey was for nothing
silk laurel
oh
tall phoenix
yeahhhh lol
silk laurel
now I remember
tall phoenix
but that aside yeah hope you have fun with this one
the duology with Shard is real fun
silk laurel
yeah thats why I forgot
reef nacelle
Not wraithbone phoenix lol
"The Farseer" book
tall phoenix
Oh lmao
reef nacelle
I know wraithbone is a crime novel lol
tall phoenix
Shut up nerd
but yeah its kind of an eldar novel, theres the farseer and the warrior eldar with him who accompany the main washed up ex-rogue trader Janus Draik to a demon world for a mcguffin
its one of THE rare 40k books that got entirely retconned for the dumbest reasons, its a really fun novel and by the author of Gotre and Felix
deft bramble
muffin
silk laurel
I was about to mention gotrek and felix
tall phoenix
Yeah the reason for its retcon is also hilarious
basically its because it had a weapon that could kill Slaanesh in it right
this was 20 years before the ynnari were a thing
WHO ALSO GO TO THIS SAME PLANET IN THE BOOK
silk laurel
I like anthology books, its rad that trollslayer basically is one, its a strong intro to them
tall phoenix
Yeeee its why I really love the book
the eldar duo alongside draik make a great trio of protagonists
you rarely see 40k books which are just fun adventure stuff
silk laurel
blackstone fortress sorta was
I really liked the 2nd book, some cool stuff happened the crew felt like a ttrpg party
tall phoenix
Yeah tho thats kinda the point considering the tabletop setting for it IS a ttrpg party lol
the book 3 is also interesting and has a really sad finale I liked
I was around when BT was coming out too and it was a huge thing, people entirely moved away from it now
silk laurel
I've been going through audiobook form because its convinent, sadly only two of the books are on it
Ascension felt pretty final tbh
tall phoenix
Yeah tbh it pretty much does
but like in the final book Janus literally turns into like
some sort of fortress god alongside his gf, and the blackstone fortress heads for the sol system
its a really sad finale lol
silk laurel
damn its sorta foreshadowed in 2
tall phoenix
Yep its bleak af
basically he "joins" with the Fortress to save her as its activating and he has no other choice, im spoiling it because most people have never read this novel
silk laurel
I've read like one horus heresy book and the part that caught me off is in those books they're still fighting random weird alien civilisations I guess it makes sense as its before they're killing eachother but some are out there
tall phoenix
Yeah the 30k-era was filled with alien/human civilizations that get nuked by the Imperium and its Legions
they are still around now too but less occuring, space is big lol
silk laurel
guess those tau other species gotta come fron somewhere, its odd they dont crop up in side books, the kroots kinda get used for that in most cases
I hate discord mobile
tall phoenix
basically because authors cannot be assed
its why you also never get books exploring non-imperial unfounded human civilizations and whatnot
its easier to hold a warhammer fans attention when they can soyjak at space marines shooting generic evil aliens
silk laurel
makes sense, necrons and orks have had some books I've loved though
twice dead king and stuff like big dakka
Hopefully a votann book will come at some point, I'm not a fan of their aestetic but interested in how they'd be more personality wise because dwarfs are funny
celest heron
they are still around now too but less occuring, space is big lol
Yu vath book
tall phoenix
Yu vath book
no
celest heron
no
Old ones book with a completely different galaxy and they go check on the galaxy and say "wow thats fucked"
And just leave
tall phoenix
its why I love lizardmen in WHF End Times
the fact that they just leave is so fucking sensible and hilarious
celest heron
Yup
I remember in hs this one dude hated endtimes
But the lizardmen were funny
His complaint was the amount of "rocks fall and everyone dies" moments
runic peak
I thought the peak was when Throgg pissed on Sigvald's corpse
fringe thorn
smoky bronze
40k moment
tall phoenix
Is the reveal that they nailed babies onto walls or something
simple cloud
Way 2 b unsubtle about it Dilara
It’s not the fact its the setup
Any cringe grimderp can have shit like that obv
But in context it gets ya
tall phoenix
Way 2 b unsubtle about it Dilara
I mean so?
what unsubtle, its literally what it is lol
simple cloud
tall phoenix
cerulean peak
Von Shard really is an asshole
tall phoenix
Shes such a fucking cunt man, I love her
its such a breath of fresh air too, any other book she'd be like some kindly misunderstood hero
cerulean peak
So far the book is fun. Lucille and Simlex are both great characters
I'm happy it's not plane autism with technical terms
simple cloud
U leave double eagle alone I love planes
tall phoenix
I'm happy it's not plane autism with technical terms
REAL
Hate that shit
Was legit dreading it when i was getting this book so happy its not the case here lol
simple cloud
Was legit dreading it when i was getting this book so happy its not the case her...
wtf no literally unreadable if I don’t get a description of the switch 4 each flap & thruster every flight
I must b able 2 get in flight simulator & replicate each sortie to the 1/2 meter
deft bramble
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1027699335632269379/1337892860741161153/1...
i wonder when will you find your witch
deft bramble
just learned there are books about some commissar called Gaunt from Abnett, are they good?
simple cloud
just learned there are books about some commissar called Gaunt from Abnett, are ...
Yus
deft bramble
thanks
silk laurel
some cool regiments get shown in those books
vale wren
old man yaoi
bottom text
do not speak to me of "slowburn" if the arguments dont last 8000 years
deft bramble
Is this book really about 2 gay necrons
I see too many gay jokes about it
(Every time someone posts the book, there is 100% a gay joke there)
elder meadow
Doesn't quite work since one of them is a cyclops. The whole locking gazes thing.
vale wren
Is this book really about 2 gay necrons
you can't realistically dedicate millenia just to trolling each other without catching some allegations
tall phoenix
Is this book really about 2 gay necrons
Yes
deft bramble
drowsy urchin
doomed old man yaoi
hybrid turtle
they are divorced
wide mica
They can work through it
celest heron
They can work through it
Not if orrikan keeps resetting the timeline
simple cloud
they are divorced
😔
Not 40K but if any1 wants 2 kno more about the trauma the Europoors endured that made them create 40K, Keegan’s The First World War is excellent & beautifully written.
runic root
Is this book really about 2 gay necrons
No.
But the fandom likes to interpret sexual things where there are none, just like with Gullimann and yvraine...🫠
Sigmund Freud would love those people.... I dont. Leave your romance shipping out of my grimdark
deft bramble
No.
But the fandom likes to interpret sexual things where there are none, just ...
i see
gooners
runic root
More thirst in this community than than every dessert people have ever had in the history of mankind
celest heron
Its actually about 2 necrons that hate each other
runic root
In a less sexual way, they are political rivals. Totally normal for 40k. But noooooo, everything has to be sexual, because haha, funni ghey necrons...
If the author wanted them gay, he would have made them so ...
But again, this fandom is so horny, i would not be surprised If at least every 3rd minifigure collector occasionally misuses his or her figurines....
hybrid turtle
eh just a harmless ship
wide mica
Interpreting a character as gay is not "Making it sexual"
tall phoenix
No.
But the fandom likes to interpret sexual things where there are none, just ...
This is way more harmless lol
also Trazyn and Orikan legit argue like a couple
Yv/Gman meanwhile have nothing to do with each other
tall phoenix
celest heron
Unless people think they are actually couples
wide mica
Yea it's interpreting undertones in the way two complex characters interact with eachother, it's not like we're writing hardcore erotic fanfic here.
runic root
Mustve missed the funny... Dont find it entertaining. But then again, gay or straight, romance is enigma to me. Dont know, dont care, give me physical violence, thats why i read 40k anyways.
The only porn i want is bolterporn
tall phoenix
Yea it's interpreting undertones in the way two complex characters interact with...
The people that dislike it always usually have the weirdest takes lol
runic root
Havent read the book yet
hybrid turtle
they sit at a theatre like statler and waldorf and bicker like a divorced couple
runic root
Yea it's interpreting undertones in the way two complex characters interact with...
I bet at least some of you secretly are
simple cloud
Mustve missed the funny... Dont find it entertaining. But then again, gay or str...
Based
tall phoenix
they sit at a theatre like statler and waldorf and bicker like a divorced couple
its legit so goofy i love it
"YOU PUT US IN FRONTROW SEATS TO A COUP!"
"Oh lmao lol"
hybrid turtle
"YOU PUT US IN FRONTROW SEATS TO A COUP!"
but the reviews were good
celest heron
Infinite and divine is the one where orrikan keeps doing timeline changes right?
simple cloud
its legit so goofy i love it
Honestly not a bad prediction of how quirky immortals would act
tall phoenix
Infinite and divine is the one where orrikan keeps doing timeline changes right?
Yeah
during a fucking court session btw
celest heron
Heh
tall phoenix
ngl most realistic use of time travel abilities
celest heron
Paternity court for the rogue trader
hybrid turtle
Infinite and divine is the one where orrikan keeps doing timeline changes right?
he resets 3 times to pick a different mediator bc he keeps getting sentenced to execution
simple cloud
Lmfao
celest heron
Lel
tall phoenix
yeah and after enough resets Traz is like
"Wait a minute. YOU'RE REVERSING TIME!"
"No im not???"
"YES YOU FUCKING ARE"
runic root
he resets 3 times to pick a different mediator bc he keeps getting sentenced to ...
Savescumming lmao
Maybe i do need to read it
tall phoenix
its extremely praised