40k-book-club

[forest spruce]

It's just such an obvious plothole that it feels like no thought was put into the story and it was only written to "look guys there's stories about female custodes"

[tall phoenix]

I mean

[high willow]

It’s a place where 1000 people have their souls sucked out of them everyday, so yeah, turbulent

[tall phoenix]

it aint 40k without plotholes innit

[smoky bronze]

No i think its more likely they never checked how teleporting works lol

[tall phoenix]

^

it has nothing to do with them being female

a male custodian is no different from a female one as tithes showed us

[smoky bronze]

The teleporting nuke part doesn't really have anything to do with the custodian being a woman

[forest spruce]

I hate it because it's dumb not because the characters female

[smoky bronze]

Oh yeah its a pretty embarrassing plot hole for sure, but whatever

[tall phoenix]

Yeah like

it sa codex excerpt

dont think too much about it

[forest spruce]

Like I love Sisters of silence and would of loved for them to include more models

[smoky bronze]

I don't think they have enough going on to escape minor auxillary hell

[tall phoenix]

im sorry but like

nobody cares about SoS

never have, never will

[forest spruce]

[tall phoenix]

people acting like they cared about them when SoS came out was even more infuriating

lol

[smoky bronze]

They're a convenient source of blanks on tap for writers that's about it

[tall phoenix]

like, reminder

[forest spruce]

Am I the only real sos fan

[tall phoenix]

SoS were so forgotten in lore

and IRL

that they made it an actual narrative thing in 40k lol

[smoky bronze]

They were hanging out in the most remote corner of the galaxy
Luna

[simple cloud]

No Dilara is jealous she isn’t a repulsive soulless badass

I really like the SoS heresy and Watchers bits

[smoky bronze]

Good thing no one piloting a voidship around sol asks about all the moons they're banned from landing on

[simple cloud]

And of course Bequin who isn’t a SoS but is adjacent sort of

[smoky bronze]

emergency landing on titan
grey knight stuffs me in a box

Bequin makes her own sisters of silence, i imagine because dan forgot too

[tall phoenix]

Yeah she meets a lot of checkboxes

like uhhh

female

blank

yeah

🫡

[forest spruce]

Causes me actual pain since one of my first books I read was watchers and I love how the sisters fight on despite the adversity

[smoky bronze]

She sets up a whole blank loaner program for inquisitors, shame theres no existing org like that

[forest spruce]

Love Aliyah's squad name and purpose

[simple cloud]

Exactly Dilara u kno as well as I there are only 12.5 women in the 40K galaxy

And the 0.5 is Slaanesh

[tall phoenix]

yeet

[simple cloud]

Grok is this series dead

[forest spruce]

Yes it's dead ;_;

[simple cloud]

f

Such good books

[forest spruce]

As far as I know Chris isn't writing a third book

Chris in an interview said he'd love to continue watchers but that depends on if gw will pay him for it

And there's other books ahead of it

[tall phoenix]

also added by the fact that BL books already dont make a lot of money minus 30k slop releases so theres not as much interest in it for some of the background GW dudes

[forest spruce]

;-;

[tacit trail]

curse the horus heresy

[tall phoenix]

yeah its one of the things that really surprised me when I heard it

the fact that BL really doesnt bring in that much revenue apparently

[celest heron]

Its 13.5 now, female custodes

[tall phoenix]

which kinda makes sense, the purpose of the books is to spread and make people buy minis

so it checks out i guess

[tacit trail]

its cause space marines probably

people want to consume space marine content

and horus heresy is the biggest pile of space marine content imaginable

[celest heron]

I just had a cursed thought

[forest spruce]

I'm already buying minis and paint dammit just give me moreeeeeeee

[celest heron]

What if sanguinius was a woman

[forest spruce]

Would next question

[tacit trail]

that wouldn't really make sense

[celest heron]

Nono no

[forest spruce]

XD

[celest heron]

And thats why there is the... issue

Because they should be women not men

[tacit trail]

no

[tall phoenix]

deffo would

yes

lady dimitrescu ahh

[forest spruce]

Seee dilara agrees

[tacit trail]

aint nobody gonna be fighting in the wars man

[forest spruce]

That means I'm objectively correct

[celest heron]

I mean same

[tacit trail]

Cant focus on the war effort with all the gooning

[celest heron]

I mean blood angels have issues with gooning

To begin with

[forest spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/reidsonm-gif-21586450

[tall phoenix]

Gooning has been advantegous to war since WW2

look at all them propaganda posters

🫡

[celest heron]

The germans dropped high quality cuck porn in ww2

On the british soldiers

British just gooned

[forest spruce]

Bro I was leaving a voicemail when I read that holy fuck

I almost broke

[celest heron]

Wrecked

Go sit in the chair

[simple cloud]

🫡

[forest spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/sandy-dragging-patrick-spongebob-meme-stan-twitter-gif-13540379491638491213

Welp my coworker convinced me to wait till next month to get void exile, so now I need to decide what to read until silent king. Choices are oaths of damnation, space wolf, helsreach, war boss or brutal kunnin.

[simple cloud]

Based af

[celest heron]

Id post it but it has female nudity

[simple cloud]

Imagine being able 2 read

In this modern world

[forest spruce]

There audiobooks I just said read cause why not

[simple cloud]

Do u also fletch arrows

[forest spruce]

Yes I actually do

I flintnap

[simple cloud]

……..

I have a colleague who got super into that shit around retirement

[forest spruce]

Have a huge bucket of obsidian sitting in my garage

[simple cloud]

Now he goes and does it… competitively???

Idk but he’s good at everything he’s prob good at this

U can make the athame

[forest spruce]

I don't have any pieces that long

Oh wait you mean the daggers? Or the full sword

[simple cloud]

Dagger

[forest spruce]

That's more possible but it'd be the biggest thing I've done

Only done arrowheads

[forest spruce]

Guess I'ma read oaths of damnation

[smoky bronze]

Yeah the BL is a weird but massively effective loss leader

They wouldnt sell nearly as many models if the playerbase wasnt attached to the setting and lore

[forest spruce]

Plastic crack hit the BL readers hard

Also named characters cost like 6 times the price per model soooo

[tall phoenix]

Thats the irony of it

it doesnt make a lot of money so its not that much of a primary concern for GW but they also literally bring in so many new fans lol

[wide mica]

Yea like even if the books don't sell big, the quotes circulate, get posted on Reddit, people discuss them, clips from audiobooks get put into TikTok edits etc etc. It basically turns into advertising that people pay for.

[tall phoenix]

^

[old grove]

NGL I don't actually hate Ruven that much

[forest spruce]

I wish I could find a single clip of gulliman interrogating a daemon host but nobody seems to think it's as interesting as I did

[tall phoenix]

Um excuse me

we need more clips instead of CHAD GIGAMARINES

SAYING COOL ONE LINERS

AND DOING BADASS-OMEGA-ALPHA STUNTS

🗣️

[forest spruce]

Dilara why do you destroy my will to be in this hobby

Your lucky the sunken cost fallacy exists

[tall phoenix]

I must remind you the reality of warhammer youtube shorts

because I also hate them

[forest spruce]

That's it, reminder that the daemonculaba existed

[tall phoenix]

Im null to it at this point.

[forest spruce]

Fair, tbh it's been months since I'd seen it brought it

Once it gets repeated enough it loses its shock factor

[tall phoenix]

Yeah pretty much, you should have seen it back in the day lol

[forest spruce]

It got brought up like every day

[frail spruce]

I'm pretty sure there's an entry in this book that teaches one how to handle daemonculaba

[forest spruce]

Showoff

I so want one

[frail spruce]

I bought it and the lads moving their minis on the tabletop offhandedly remarked "20$ piece of propaganda"

[tall phoenix]

thats very likely

that primer is like one of the most expensive 40k memorabilia in existence lmfao

[celest heron]

God Id buy it

Best tp around

[frail spruce]

Yeah under pain of death supposedly

Oh look it's an entry on the arbites in darktide

[severe trail]

Wait holy shit you have the super rare one

If it’s not a bother can you send images of the tau page lol

[inland patrol]

Been reading about this horus guy. He seems pretty reasonable, wonder why they call it his heresy though

[tall phoenix]

His hair is a mess, hence Hairesy

[inland patrol]

But he's described as bald 🤔

And pretty dripped out

[tall phoenix]

[inland patrol]

Luna Wolves seem like nice guys

[celest heron]

Its the wolf on his back

It had a bad hair day

But that erebus cat, upstanding individual.

[velvet jetty]

Any books staring Arbites?

[severe trail]

The old Shira Calpurn books

She’s fun

They show up in warhammer crime very rarely

In a very tertiary role

So not really

[simple cloud]

What the FUCK Gaunt ||has a son??????||

[tall phoenix]

thats like one of the most cliche things ever

I thought people would guess lmao

[simple cloud]

…. I didn’t pay enough attention haha

The description of the kid did give me pause for a sec

[safe plover]

to be fair at the time that book was written that entry was prolly true

[runic root]

That trillogy is on my radar. Unfortunately i would have to sell both my kidneys If i wanted a pysical copy and i dont like eBooks

[runic root]

I wish they did. But in lore, they occupy a medium role that doesnt have large readerbase.

Normal crime = probators and their lower ranks take care of it (think of it like criminal Investigation unit)
Population Control, Riot quelling, counterterrorism, supression of social unrest, purging of mutants, busting crime syndicates, weeding out corruption = arbites
Planetary defense = local pdf forces or guard
High level threats = sisters of battle/space marines
Extreme threats/anything Chaos= Inquisition and everything below, recruited in their service

As you can see, whatever exceeds rioting, bigger players like the Inquisition can also tackle and thus youll find these stories mostly portrayed by them. Now, some books like the Uriel Ventris trillogy or some books of the dawn of fire series have extensive arbites scenes and actors integrated but they remain side characters. Sadly

Id love to see more probators + arbites work together personally. Always enjoyed the few crime stories we have where a police commissar needs to investigate something

[simple cloud]

Ok still nothing has happened yet (they’re still en route) and I can tell this one is gonna fuck me up.

Lmaoooo the way Abnett writes Space Marines in the context of Gaunt’s Ghosts as having absolute S-tier space autism

“I do not care in any way about your name.”

“What… do you want”

“You can go away now”

[forest spruce]

Darktide prolly done more for arbites than all the novels combines

[bright thorn]

I've just finished Eisenhorn books (give me Pandemonium ffs)
Since ghosts of Gaunt is written by Dan Abnett too, are those boks good?

[drowsy urchin]

that's true for Ogryns but not really Arbites

[reef nacelle]

Yes

[drowsy urchin]

yes they are though quite different in theme

[bright thorn]

Inquisition vs Militarum I guess?

[drowsy urchin]

well yes but the storytelling is rather different as well

or well not very different

but they're good

excellent even

[bright thorn]

then I'll get the 1st omnibus

thanks

[simple cloud]

Yes they are. Read em.

The first couple are like pulp serials so you have to get about 3 books in to get to the good stuff but like

Eg the last 3 i read all made me tear up, to my chagrin

[smoky bronze]

Gaunts ghosts is a war drama compared to eisenhorns like, mystery action noir

But yes good

[cedar solar]

I think Pandemonium is due soon

[tall phoenix]

maybe in a few more years

[simple cloud]

Yah it’s gonna be a while 😭

[wide mica]

Any day now

[brittle tapir]

maybe i'll finish a 40k book by the time it comes out

[tall phoenix]

Doubt

🗣️

[safe plover]

🚬 when is bequin 3 coming out 😭 i dont wanna start a trilogy and wait months for it to finish

do i have to read about eisenhorn and his boyfriend before to get the trilogy or no?

[drowsy urchin]

do mean Ravenor?

if yes, then yes you should

it's a trilogy of trilogies and you'd be skipping the middle part

[safe plover]

yeah who else

[drowsy urchin]

I mean

Cherubael is a pretty good candidate

[safe plover]

yeah see idk who that is

[drowsy urchin]

Haven't you read the first three Eisenhorn books?`¨

[safe plover]

i just remember reading bits of bequin where ravenor and eisenhorn have a 5 hour discussion in their minds

idk seems kinda sussy to me

[drowsy urchin]

I guess?

but you haven't read Eisenhorn?

[safe plover]

no

[drowsy urchin]

Then you shouldn't do Bequin

[safe plover]

im mostly interested in bequin penitant and whatever is the 3rd because they progress the golden throne plot

[drowsy urchin]

You'd lose SO much if you just jump straight into Bequin

Let me put it into terms you might understand, it's like you were to jump straight into Avengers Endgame without seeing any of the previous MCU movies in a hope of seeing the end credit scene of the Endgame movie

[safe plover]

🚬 big woop girlie dies valdor clones girlie, girlie gets trained then two gays fight over her

imma be real i've read so much about the two books online

i think i can skip them

[drowsy urchin]

you're horrible

[safe plover]

i am to displease

[drowsy urchin]

reading about books online is not the same as reading the books themselves!!! You miss out on so many details and nuances, worst of all the details online might just be flat out wrong

[safe plover]

iknow i got sick of waiting i just needed a little something to take the edge off

[drowsy urchin]

dude watches all the trailers of a movie and doesn't watch the movie because he's seen enough

[reef nacelle]

Clad will do anything but read good 40k books

Even reading good 40k books... Out of order with no context

[drowsy urchin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZv0hp6Ge1g

Very good summary of the Siege, as always from Ian

[simple cloud]

…… is this a joke

You haven’t read Bequin?

Wait

You haven’t read EISENHORN

Get out of this channel lmao

[reef nacelle]

Given his feelings on Abnett, I can see why

[simple cloud]

@tall phoenix u were right put him out of his misery

@safe plover bro you will like them at least listen to them. Legion is an acquired taste I admit but these are just good books

[safe plover]

i am waiting untill the last book gets released

i know theyre good

ive read a bunch of summeries

but i dont wanna have to wait 40k years for the last one

[simple cloud]

o

I mean fair

[safe plover]

misunderstanding so bad he broke character 😭

[simple cloud]

In some ways the plot points are the least important things re the books.

[tall phoenix]

Finally

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-armstrong-handshake-gif-24880361

[forest spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-fuzz-shame-gif-26273082

[tall phoenix]

LOVED his takes in this video

extremely honest and a perfect summary imo

people wank the Siege way too much, its nice to have some honest opinions on it and him outright mentioning the bad books with some polite jabs lol

[drowsy urchin]

true

and validates my love for Abnett's prose and bombastic storytelling

even if it takes too long (for some)

[tall phoenix]

Agreed im glad he also didnt jerk off EndDeath too much, I very much agree it has some excellent writing but he also perfectly sums up the whole like "Why the fuck are we reading about these side characters that dont matter"

the fact that Abnett's editor Kyme basically did not do his job as confirmed at the afterword of the final novel explains a lot of things

[fringe thorn]

This Abnett fellow seems like a great writer. He should get involved in Darktide

[tall phoenix]

This grenade also seems like a great writer, I should pass it to you for some help

🫲

[forest spruce]

Oh hey an appl-

[tall phoenix]

Damn, wrong casualty 😔

[fringe thorn]

Emperor wills it

[simple cloud]

Yes I got extreme Dance with Dragons vibes

Right where GRRM got so big the publishing house got scared of pissing him off by giving him a hardass editor

Everyone needs a hardass editor

[tall phoenix]

Yeah agreed.

Like you NEED someone to tell you "no" when writing.

[simple cloud]

Dan Abnett needs it when following random threads esp if it makes the book unbalanced

Darius Hinks needed it when he was like “maybe I’ll be a writer”

… that was mean

[simple cloud]

Jesus Christ the conversations between mortals and space marines in Salvation’s Reach are just A++++

“I do not read… human… microexpressions.”

[tall phoenix]

thats not a space marine, thats people in general

[simple cloud]

“Is it a woman? A woman… a sexual… partner? I understand that can be… distracting for the emotionally compromised.”

[tall phoenix]

also redditor

[simple cloud]

Also the description of how each marine has exactly 1 special interest that takes up all his time

[drowsy urchin]

(non-derogatory)

[forest spruce]

He's just like me frfr

[simple cloud]

Oh quite the opposite in fact yes

This book has finally made me look forward to the Astartes’ showing up in a chapter

Like each section im like “oh I hope the grumpy one is in this!”

(they’re all the grumpy one)

[wintry blade]

When's that mad dok grotsnik book coming out again?

[tall phoenix]

Already did i think

[severe trail]

It’s been out

[wintry blade]

damn

[severe trail]

Pretty good book

I’d say it’s second to the Ghazkull book

But it’s still extremely good from what I’ve read

[tall phoenix]

Gimme some spoilers before i read

especially the main plot, antagonists and ending pls

[severe trail]

Bruh

I haven’t finished it yet

[tall phoenix]

Dont care

gimme a few spoiler censors

[severe trail]

There’s ||a very obvious twist|| involving ||genestealers||, it dives into ork culture and has some fun bits. ||ghazkull is a horrifying background character|| and depicted well

Oh also

It makes Orks weird, more alien and scary

Rather then goofy

They’re still goofy, but in like a dark humor way

Also grotsnik has uh issues

[tall phoenix]

Ooooh nice

also what kind of issues

[severe trail]

You know how Grotsnik is called the mad doc? Well ||he has these horrifically shown mental and mood swings and it’s done in such a way it’s super unsettling and creepy||

[tall phoenix]

OH yeah that

it is somewhat shown in the Short that is a leadup to this book iirc

also does the book cover his whole bio-ork experiment thing or nah

[severe trail]

It does

Not heavily but it does have some of it

He’s done in such a creepy and interesting way though

Regarding Grotsnik, it really really elevates him beyond the basic

[tall phoenix]

That is pretty interesting

also tbh

hes basically a basic-bitch character

so im glad they do a lot more with him in this book lol

[paper maple]

Yeah his entire lore is usually just "haha TF2 ork medic"

[severe trail]

Yeah before he was just generic ork mad scientist

[paper maple]

so i might pick this up as well

[severe trail]

Now he’s uh

He’s way creepier and unsettling

||they don’t play his mood or
Personality swings for humor much||

Not in any way beyond dark humor

[tall phoenix]

Lmao

[severe trail]

Like holy shit he just hacked their goddamn limbs off

[tall phoenix]

Also for spoilers where/what does the book take place in? Is it location hopping like most novels or in one place.

[severe trail]

It takes place on a specific hiveworld

[tall phoenix]

BASED

Literally perfect setting for him

[severe trail]

The orks are basically on the verge of victory on the world

[tall phoenix]

Yeah was gonna ask lol

[severe trail]

But it’s not boring

[tall phoenix]

Nah I doubt it is

[severe trail]

The Guard as the antagonists(sorta) are done well, even if you get no POV from them

I guess the guard are the plot antagonist lol

[tall phoenix]

Ah so theres no like central antagonist

its just him fucking around lol

[severe trail]

There is one, it’s just

The twist

[tall phoenix]

Ah fair 👖

and what about POV swaps

[severe trail]

There’s a few

[tall phoenix]

I assume grots maybe?

[severe trail]

Grotsnik is the majority, there’s a grot and 2 other Orks

[tall phoenix]

Yeah guessed it lmao

[severe trail]

lol

[tall phoenix]

alright guess ill pick it up

[forest spruce]

Sounds fun

[wise yew]

it has one of the most peak excerpts of all time though

A grot doing this

spoilered of course

[wise yew]

he's called mad dok for a reason

He is so genuinely insane other orks even find him unsettling

[simple cloud]

Ok it hurts me to be critical because I love GG and also I’m not finished yet so anything could happen but I’m getting tired of the number of death fakeouts in Salvation’s Reach.

Like come on there have been like 8 or 10 so far.

Including one of the most annoying kinds the “well technically his heart stopped before he was resuscitated”

[runic root]

Is broken crusade by fisher any good?

[shy lark]

yea

Pretty solid first half and a weaker latter half, some weird bits, but I liked it

[quaint canopy]

I'm about half way through Luther, First of the Fallen and it's pretty decent. I definitely expected it to be less interesting.

[high willow]

Don’t worry, there will be plenty of deaths to go around

[simple cloud]

Don’t get me wrong I’m dreading them something has happened to my brain everything makes me tear up

Maybe it’s menopause

[high willow]

No judgement here I was struggling too. In fact, most of the books had me torn up at some point.

[frail spruce]

@severe trail alas I left it in another state

Super long rain check

[severe trail]

Dang

Feels bad

Ty for the response

[drowsy urchin]

https://x.com/bread_nought/status/1942029743987036170?t=vEwfEwgaLA28__HHVskSUg&s=19

Orikan the diviner (@bread_nought)

X · Jul 7, 2025, 1:15 AM

[forest spruce]

I need to reread those books so I can actually understand the foreshadowing

[forest spruce]

Welp just finished outer dark

[tall phoenix]

[forest spruce]

It was good but now I've got like ten days before I get silent king

Wonder in the arbitrator is gonna end up being the inquistor in the next book or if she's gonna join a different retinue

[smoky bronze]

I've been waiting for bequin to finish for FIFTEEN YEARS!!!

Dan abnett when he locks a cool character in stasis then GW calls and tells him he needs to write 100 books about space marines

[severe trail]

good image

[drowsy urchin]

[simple cloud]

Lmao

GW when Abnett tries 2 write a non-autistic girl character: 🛑 ✋

[safe plover]

autism sells

https://tenor.com/view/liara-liara-tsoni-mass-effect-liara-mass-effect-gif-26042099

[simple cloud]

[safe plover]

guilliman said its fine

[deft bramble]

Ive seen there is the 3rd book about Ufthak, no?

[reef nacelle]

About him? No

But he makes a very brief appearance in Warboss

[deft bramble]

i mean ive seen here that there is a new book about orks

from the author of dilogy about Ufthak

announced or that came out

i just finished Terminal Overkill

yeah, i agree with Dilara - mid book

i was baited to read it by the "giant pile of fat and filth being the most tasty thing"

[tall phoenix]

Holy shit you still remember my review of it? Im homored

[simple cloud]

Grudgingly I note u have universally good book takes

[tall phoenix]

Its an effect of reading a lot of 40k books when I can

it makes me jaded but when a book comes up man it does heal me a lot

[simple cloud]

I finished Salvation’s Reach and it’s a weird book. The pacing felt off. ||Like the assassin thing at the beginning was resolved so quickly whereas I thought that it would be a continued plot line resolved near the climax. Much of the book was preparation for the Reach but a lot of things were set up that didn’t play out? Like the whole drug ring thing and idk Blenner never got to do anything brave etc etc. It felt like half of a book. Having begun The Warmaster, I guess it seems like maybe it was half of a book and this is the other half. Strange work taken on its own though.||

[deft bramble]

i saw it recently when i was trying to find who told me about this book when i asked from which book i heard that part about tasty mountain of fat and shit

gonna be honest, that was really kinda terminal overkill to read

now that i finished it i can start something actually good, like Ravenor

[tall phoenix]

Yeeee its just a "fine" book I didnt have much to think on it either admittedly so you sum it up well.

[simple cloud]

I mean the baseline is high. It’s always nice to spend time with the Ghosts.

It made me want to paint mine and get them on the table. They’re great in 10th.

[smoky bronze]

The timeline is hundreds of years off iirc, but it would be funny to see a cadian complaining about losing cadia and a tanith going "yeah yeah we've all had our homeworlds blown up get over it"

"Ours had cool trees you lived on a whole planet of eastern europe"

[runic root]

I need a 40k author tier list now from you please (please put Thorpe in f tier)

[tall phoenix]

I wouldnt put Thorpe in F tier but definitely in D at least

hes great as a rulebook author but as an actual novel one not so much

[wise yew]

i agree, when it comes the world building he is known as that guy for a reason

he's good at that unfortunately

when making stories and characters

He falls a bit short

[simple cloud]

Ya I give him a big pass bc he’s a bridge between the old guard and the new and is a font of lore.

I remember reading about him all the time in early 90s white dwarf mag!

[severe trail]

If I’ve never read any of Gav’s novels

He’d be S as an author

Just due to his rulebook lore stuff

But he’s like a C bcs his novels are

[runic root]

Ive only ever read that guys dark angel slop and i dont think ive read a worse 40k author than him. Not even kyme is as bad

[severe trail]

His eldar and LoV books are both extremely heavy on world building

As for the writing itself

Ehhhh

He’s very good at worldbuilding and the drier aspects of lore

[hybrid turtle]

only read thorpe's votann book, which definitely wasnt anything to write home about

[tall phoenix]

yeah sums it up well

[runic root]

https://youtu.be/Xcw08LfG8dg?si=GNNgQyto-gaK7DLz

Idk what it is about this scene but this mediocre movie and some of its scenes still tickle my brain in the right spot 🤗🥰

[reef nacelle]

That is the most casual beatdown of a daemon prince I have ever seen

[runic root]

Blueberry bonus

But the music and voiclines, omg, still so fucking Epic

[cerulean peak]

I actually liked the Ultramarine movie

God bless watching movies on youtube

[high willow]

There were some fantastic moments in those DA books. The part in Master of Sanctity where Asmodai interrogates Methelas still gives me chills

[lethal valley]

Is there a full final diagram of HH novels now that the final final book is out? Or is this still like one of the best?

[tall phoenix]

Nah all of that is correct

it also doesnt really need one

Siege is all in chronological order

and so is Era of Ruin

[lethal valley]

Ah I guess, just wish it was more... parseable I guess

[tall phoenix]

alas, the result of so many slop books

[lethal valley]

I mean, for the sake of 'legion', I like the bit where the creepy teenloving psyker throws himself out an airlock as he realized he's an awful person doing awful things. Shame it doesn't stick though

[safe plover]

legion bad

[tall phoenix]

Emphasis on "many"

theres some actual good books ala Legion, even if some amongus are too sharksoup-brained to realise it 😔

[runic root]

Clad out here living his best life throwing hands with everyone that lives 😂

[safe plover]

you dont even like legion

you just hate me more

[tall phoenix]

Hes not even throwing hands hes more like this:

https://tenor.com/view/cat-clap-cat-jump-cat-kitten-mklpkl-gif-20733514

[tall phoenix]

I do tbh, you cannot even read a rulebook

🫡

[safe plover]

no

[tall phoenix]

yes

[safe plover]

i oppose every depiction of myself as a cat that isnt this

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-cat-stare-goofy-face-no-pee-pugakuorg-gif-16083210515411125700

[tall phoenix]

lobotomy....

[wise yew]

Of course you picked one that looks like it got hit in the head with a steel beam

[safe plover]

yea

shes so cute tho

[wise yew]

one of the rare times I agree with your statement

[severe trail]

https://tenor.com/view/strawberry-cat-domgcat-donkeycat-free-robux-vbucks-gif-9547401608137840178

[wise yew]

oh my god khorne brain blood ice cream

[forest spruce]

Just finished catching up on hunter the parenting, jfc

My boy Russel a tank

[tall phoenix]

Hunter is so good man

[forest spruce]

Brooo

It's so fucking good

That whole team puts there heart and fucking soul into it

Also regarding chapter 5 things are not adding up puts on tinfoil hat

|| the fact that there was a garou there is fuck a fucking coincidence. Wilde got found out on a fluke and grimal stashed the hunter data in the smokes. Grimal had no fucking clue that Wilde was a fucking werewolf and she was just trying to frame her. However I do not believe she is the ghoul. I believe it's Elise using dominate on grimmel. Elise is a ghoul with some tenure and she's directly from the regent herself so she's a low gen ghoul thus would have access to means to mind control. Elise obviously could not get through the vents herself given how... Gifted she is, so she made grimmel do it and forced her to forget it happened.||

[old grove]

Re reading void stalker || and I'm at the part where uzas confronts cyrion and oh my goddf it's so good||

[tall phoenix]

When you look at the episode quality with each drop you really start to see where 27k$ of that patreon money goes to lmao

[forest spruce]

Hour long animations yeah

[tall phoenix]

Yeah also explains why they got their own animation studio now too

the quality is legit insane

[forest spruce]

Bro I'm impressed paradox hasn't made it official yet

Like even if the characters are expys it's still legit there own characters

[tall phoenix]

They have been officially sponsoring it since EP1 but Alfa made clear this is very much their take on Hunter to some extent as well

cant complain though its just peak cinema

[forest spruce]

I thought it was made with approval from paradox but not officially licensed or canon

[tall phoenix]

Yeah its more sponsored as in "look at this cool thing our fans made!"

so its very much recognize at least

[forest spruce]

Yesh

I'm sitting here just stewing in theories

[tall phoenix]

good thats the intention

[forest spruce]

Some people be saying Markus is an imbued but as far as I know imbued can't go into the umbra

Also imbuded can't be mages and I think Marcus is gonna a mage

[tall phoenix]

Markus is definitely gonna go the Magnus route of magic stuff so we'll see

Mage is a part of the setting i really dont like so i cant comment much lol

[severe trail]

Mage stuff is weird

Like

Really weird lol

[forest spruce]

There a lot about the setting that's weird or strange

Looks at the shadow war with the lizard men in the hollow earth

[shy lark]

born to die mages is a fuck

[severe trail]

Real and true

[forest spruce]

I should learn the system and do a hunter the reckoning game at some point

[severe trail]

Do not use hunter 1e

For your own sake lol

[shy lark]

The only good thing mages did was nuclear spirit bomb ravnos 100%

[forest spruce]

I'm already mentally insane it's fine

[severe trail]

No hunter 1e is just objectively worse

Lol

From a gameplay pov

Unless you really like jank

[forest spruce]

Lol keep that in mind

[shy lark]

I mostly stick to V20, Hunters Hunted 2 is decent afaik

[simple cloud]

I respect consistency

Wat the fu u nerds all talkin bout what is hunter

I had a college roommate who changed his name from Michael 2 Hunter he was a dick

[safe plover]

every hunter is a dick

[simple cloud]

Michael Applebaum ==> Hunter Gray dickification pipeline

[forest spruce]

|| continuations of this rant, in the ghoul episode audiolog big dee mentions how the sabbat knew about the org due to one of there own ghouls recently meeting with the ghoul of the arcanum, and what to do you know in the beginning of chapter 4 Elise and grimmel are talking about a meeting they had with a organization. Wiggen kabab||

[runic root]

Especially Hunter avallone

[safe plover]

idk who that is

[runic root]

A cringe American influencer who switches sides more often on the political spectrum than i my underwear

[tall phoenix]

Yeah I still got no idea who the ghoul is

they hid it very well but just like the wolf reveal I hope its good lol

[forest spruce]

It's certain to be good

[severe trail]

It’s gona be ||Elise or Grimal||

Either that or it’s the most absurd red herring ever

Lol

[forest spruce]

||my money's on Elise||

[severe trail]

Same

Tbh

[tall phoenix]

tbh

goth chick

checks out

[forest spruce]

I kinda knew who the werewolf was based on the signs like her name, how she wrote it. The scratch marks everywhere.

[tall phoenix]

"Passing out walkies."
"....Walkies? "

lmao

[forest spruce]

I noticed that

[severe trail]

She might also be unaware of slang tbf

She’s a werewolf

But it’s funnier to imagine it’s the first option

[tall phoenix]

its definitely option 1

the dog puns were everywhere

[forest spruce]

Did you notice the delirium in black jaws eyes stopped when he bombed shoulders with dee

Also I've heard rumors that deedee might be a mummy idk much about mummies in wod

[tall phoenix]

Yeah little touches like that are great

its not something most people would ever even pay attention to as well

[forest spruce]

"son in law you are not ready to face a werewolf... Yet" the werewolf in question folding everybody

[tall phoenix]

The fact that they barely even put a dent in her too lmao

no anti-tankshells at hand 😔

[forest spruce]

She likely wasn't a high ranking wolf

She got a infiltration job thaats not a jump you give to the high ranks

If only they had the m60s on the golden goose

Dammit door and boy why'd you have to burn down an o tollies

[tall phoenix]

Lmao was gonna say Dorn not being there with the heavy guns was also the perfect excuse

man has to eat

[forest spruce]

That's the burger company that puts demons in the burgers

[tall phoenix]

yeah but burger is burger

[forest spruce]

XD

I also loved the plane episode because what the hell was bug bro and creepy phone man. My guess for phone wan is a technomancer or something

[tall phoenix]

yeah that was where i was legit lost lol

my expertise is Masquerade/Werewolf, none of this other shit

[forest spruce]

All I know is nustrum is a subsidiary of pentex which is like a super evil supernatural corporation

Otolleys is a subsidiary of pentex as well

Russel is def a werewolf of some sort

You know because of who he is

[severe trail]

It’s human flesh isn’t it

Lol

[shy lark]

Yea I've seem people mention black spiral dancer but my two dollars are on garou 100%

[severe trail]

Black spiral dancers are werewolves

[shy lark]

Yea but you know, weirder

also i forgor i don't pay much attention to werewolf

[simple cloud]

Once a year??

[simple cloud]

Isn’t that shit dead masquerade had Gehenna Wereyiff had The Apocalypse

[shy lark]

owod

now we have nwod

and it stinks

[simple cloud]

I feel like it lost ~ 100% of its audience

[tall phoenix]

No lol

[tall phoenix]

Just like warhammer 80% of its audience is chuds/nazis it isnt going anywhere, its very much alive

[simple cloud]

What was the behind the scenes on that I wonder

[simple cloud]

Wat really but even the old version wuz so ~ inclusive ~ like the comic at the beginning of the core book was some Native American slop

[tall phoenix]

I mean

so is 40k now

and we still got them in droves lol

it doesnt really make a difference, these people will always be here

[shy lark]

nWoD was a bit of a response to the arcane and abstract rules of oWoD and a shift in setting and tone, no more minute to midnight setting afaik

at least the rules tended to be a lot better

[tall phoenix]

^

It was just a relaunch, it went pretty okay

this wasnt a EndTimes situation

you literally got to even choose in your game how the apocalypse ended the world

[shy lark]

It just doesn't have the soul of oWoD

[tall phoenix]

Yeah its why people just combine modules usually

WoD has been around for awhile now so it comes and goes

[simple cloud]

Wait so werewolf still had the stepping into the warp/webway thing that the coyotes were really good at etc etc

[tall phoenix]

...Yes?

[shy lark]

Tbf V20 is not bad at all, I get the new system and the old fluff. I'm pretty happy, not much to complain about

[tall phoenix]

Yeah same, its a lot better and more fun

[simple cloud]

Wat kind of wereyiff do u play

[tall phoenix]

what

can you speak english

[shy lark]

There's a lot to like about nWoD, but god being a computer and the demons being rogue agents of the matrix isn't my cup of tea

[simple cloud]

don’t u play it ur talking about the system

[tall phoenix]

Its the only part of WoD I hate which is Mage

I MUCH prefer when WoD is like Hellboy

aka almost all fantastical things exist in a grim earth etc

Mage really pushes it with shit like that which I really dislike

[simple cloud]

Can’t u b like a silver fang or a g olden shower or whatever

[shy lark]

Mage was never my cup of tea. I love the premise but not so much the execution

[simple cloud]

They had the ghost one too

Oh and the fairy one

[shy lark]

It's the same problem I have with Demon, you can go loud in downtown New York as a bibically accurate fallen angel and there's no real mechanical repercussions but also it's fun hell yea

[simple cloud]

Oh yeah that one too. I guess there were a lot

Why did they do the reboot

Like mechanics I get but why setting

[shy lark]

the owod mechanics sucked ass at best

well

[tall phoenix]

Again, what are you talking about

Clans? lmao

[shy lark]

I guess they shifted focus more on mortals, they wanted to tell a different story is my guess

Less vampire armageddon more man the night sucks ass man

[tall phoenix]

Yeah the doomer vibes are still there, its just more modern now

[simple cloud]

Ya i kno u’ve got ur crinos fursuit back there somewhere

[tall phoenix]

what

are you like, tipsy or something

[shy lark]

anyway just play Dresden Files RPG: Our World instead of mage 4head

[simple cloud]

No im the only coherent person here

[simple cloud]

Wats that

[tall phoenix]

Closeted furry moment

tragic

[shy lark]

i'll tell you once you memorize princess the hopeful

[forest spruce]

Kaggen is letting the voices win again

[simple cloud]

I am so persecuted in this space

[tall phoenix]

Truly undeserved

[simple cloud]

Ty yes i kno

[tall phoenix]

As ever the effects of lobotomy are clear

🫡

[simple cloud]

wats that

I max out @ 3 syllables sorry

I am so persecute

[forest spruce]

Brother are you high

[tall phoenix]

I think hes just bored

he does this sometimes

lmfao

guy went on for like 10m about furries or something so I guess it is what it is

[forest spruce]

I get high when I bored too

[forest spruce]

He mentioned golden rain soooo yeah he's gone off the deep end

[tall phoenix]

I missed that, ugh

Im gonna go back to watching atunshei

[simple cloud]

Does the new world of darkness have all the different animals

Like the old one had codex wereshark

[forest spruce]

Something something werespider

[simple cloud]

oh ya and that

Honestly pretty creative

All of it

[cerulean peak]

36ft with a 98ft error margin is mildly innacurate

[drowsy urchin]

just a tiny bit

[brittle tapir]

should i get kingmaker

[drowsy urchin]

yea

[brittle tapir]

k

[drowsy urchin]

good

[grim gate]

What are some good Psyker focused books

[drowsy urchin]

Eisenhorn / Ravenor

[tall phoenix]

Witchbringer

[grim gate]

Sick ill check ot out

[tall phoenix]

🙏

[thorny sand]

is the infinite and the divine a good read

[severe trail]

Yes

[hybrid turtle]

Its very good yeah

[mellow knot]

I still have today and Monday-Wednesday next week to go before I can have 10 days off work. WHY SO LONG???

[severe trail]

Time slows down as you approach freedom

[drowsy urchin]

This is my last day before a 4 week vacation

I'm supposed to get a project ready for production

I feel that I'm running out of time and that time has crawled to a stop

[wide mica]

I just finished work and now I’ve got a 4 day weekend after working short staffed (2 instead of 5) for the past month

[old grove]

I just realized

We never got anything about how the night lords were gonna fuck up craft world ulthwe to ensure the fall of cadia

[severe trail]

Because they didn’t, the nightlords participated at the fall of Cadia

The biggest warbands of them rather

[old grove]

What about the end of void stalker though

[severe trail]

I’d assume they went with a different plan

Maybe their foresight showed something different

[old grove]

Maybe

[severe trail]

Future sight in 40k is ultimately a fickle thing

[old grove]

Man I need adb to release more NL stuff

[severe trail]

We do know that Decimus’s warband participated at the Fall of Cadia

In some manner

Along with Krieg’s warband

Which would put the 2 biggest nightlord warbands at it

Funny how that works

[old grove]

Is there any story related or just something that was said somewhere

[severe trail]

Just mentioned off handidly

[old grove]

Aw damn

[severe trail]

We know Krieg is mentioned in gathering storm

And Decimus’s warband is mentioned without his exact name

[old grove]

I think I'm gonna take a break from Warhammer books for a bit and then get started on devastation of Baal

[severe trail]

Since i forget what novel states “the 2 largest warbands of nightlords are present in the forces of the 13th black crusade”

[old grove]

Ic ic

[severe trail]

Which unless GW retcon’s it which is unlikely, Decimus’s forces participated in the 13th black crusade

Because the 9e codex states decimus and krieg

As having the 2 biggest warbands

Ulthwe was also(partially) busy trying to birth a God at the time and also figuring out what the fuck Eldrad was doing

So I’d assume it’s a case of the stars aligning for that lol

[safe plover]

a friend of mine got the ciaphas cain books i shall be yapping about those soon

[deft bramble]

i wish there was a list of books about cain in chronological order

[celest heron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRozBAIbaG4

[brittle tapir]

i saved a friend from buying the shitty cadia audiobook

a mistake i did

he will buy the good one

those websites about 40k book lists are so outdated and bad

[hybrid turtle]

Which cadia book is the bad one

[safe plover]

first book feels outdated and mid so far

[cerulean peak]

cain is not bad but definitely overrated

the short stories were the best

[safe plover]

first book started with an all female squad being merged with an all male squad due to losses and them fighting over dishes

this is by far one of the worst things i've ever read

no wonder they retconned gender segregated squads out of existance

[tall phoenix]

Cain books are miiiiid

[safe plover]

i just tried because a friend got them i had zero intrest beforehand

[tall phoenix]

Every cain book is the same thing

hope you sufffer

🫡

[safe plover]

they were FREE

[tall phoenix]

: )

[safe plover]

ill try to finish the first book see if it gets better

but damn not a good intro

[wise yew]

It is the gotrek and felix of 40k for a reason

it's not the worst but it's not really that narratively interesting

[celest heron]

aren't the cain books written in memoir style?

with unhinged footnotes

[tall phoenix]

yeah they are by Vail

[shy lark]

I have an associate who insists reading the entirety of the Cain novels is the single greatest way of being introduced to 40k because that's what he did
But man, I can't read more than one in a row before falling asleep

[tall phoenix]

So fun fact

the author of the Cain books has outrigth stated on social media that he very much considers Cain to be almost not that lore accurate/not a great way to start 40k

[wise yew]

Then what is the definitive book to start 40K in

[tall phoenix]

Any book you want tbh

[shy lark]

Wisdom prevails once again 🙏

Yeah I can't see why you wouldn't just pick a faction and start there

[wise yew]

aight then time to recommend this to a new guy

[tall phoenix]

^

This is my mindset

just pick a faction and start reading that

[wise yew]

Well new ork fans will be disappointed by the grand amount of their books being 1 digit numbers

[shy lark]

Come on now, there's enough to count on one hand nowadays

More middling marine novels is what we all need

[forest spruce]

Necron fans get three books

[safe plover]

🚬 getting 3 books is better than getting 165 short stories and 5 books 4 of which are shit

i will never forgive nick for deathfire

67 chapters all garbage

[tall phoenix]

We warned you and you didnt listen.

Get owned

🗣️

[simple cloud]

I really think he probably has it in him to write better books

Y doesn’t he try more

[runic root]

He never does. And the Fallout of that is always the funniest thing about this chat. That and you blowing a gasket over his statements

[smoky bronze]

Unlike other novels that might be a false retelling in universe the cain novels almost certainly are

[tall phoenix]

Yeah pretty much lol

the fact that the author himself says as much is funnier

[smoky bronze]

Inquisitor Vail sitting in her office writing fanfiction about her old boyfriend

[safe plover]

I am right about everything

nick had me sit through 67 chapters just for ||vulkan to say "my sons" and numeon to fucking die|| im 99% sure he was writing the entire book just to make us feel how numeon felt not even to tell a story

[tall phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/extremely-loud-incorrect-buzzer-buzzer-sound-buzzer-jarvis-play-the-extremely-loud-incorrect-buzzer-sound-jarvis-gif-4937353270264763123

[smoky bronze]

I might never have gotten into 40k if i had started on the wrong books lol

[safe plover]

i care not for the opnions of AI

[smoky bronze]

A long time ago i randomly grabbed the eisenhorn and gaunt 1 omnibusses at a bookstore
I could have grabbed a Goto instead and despised the whole hobby

I also randomly grabbed a print edition of Order of the Stick on that trip only to learn later it was a webcomic and i didn't get the one print-only thing lol

[runic root]

You dont care about the opinions of anyone but yourself

[safe plover]

nuh uhhh, i care about the opinions of uhhh

https://tenor.com/view/nuggetand-cat-car-cat-meme-cats-gif-13549128190129307854

everyone who also hates legion

yeah thats a good answer

[runic root]

So... Just you?

[safe plover]

noooo theres like 2 others here that also dislike it

[wise yew]

Name them up the top of your head no searching up right now

[safe plover]

https://tenor.com/view/nuggetand-cat-car-cat-meme-cats-gif-13549128190129307854

[simple cloud]

Legion is kind of boring

It’s among the more mid of Abnett’s productions

[runic root]

If it was a gradeable paper id give it a b- or a c+. It was alright. Certainly not a dumpsterfire like Battle of the abyss or Vulkan lives. But not a sublime work either. It was alright.

[safe plover]

HEY vulkan lives was great

[forest spruce]

Welp got silent king.

Time to see how bad this dawn of fire book is

[severe trail]

Look

It can't be that bad

[tall phoenix]

Give us some spoilered stuff as you read

Im curious how it is

[safe plover]

🙄

OH now you like spoilers

[tacit trail]

Guilliman dies

[tall phoenix]

I said spoilered idiot

also I always like spoilers

you are just a weirdo who considers basic information spoilers

[safe plover]

you litearlly spoiled the beastary for me by giving out the big reveal at the end

[simple cloud]

wtf is beastary is that that furry anime

[safe plover]

@simple cloud start reading from here

until now

[simple cloud]

Wait but that’s not even the big reveal the big reveal is the tablet

[safe plover]

ur both dead

[simple cloud]

Also the crystal poop

[tall phoenix]

Lmao

[runic root]

@safe plover Szeretett testvérem Krisztusban, húsz perc múlva online leszek. Csatlakozol hozzám?

[tall phoenix]

bro tries to prove a point and fails

https://tenor.com/view/so-what-agree-maybe-columbo-gif-18453480

CANNOT make this up

[safe plover]

im cooking rn itll be a while

[tall phoenix]

Also I just realised, this is Xenology, its not even a novel.

so you'd never even read it

[runic root]

I'll be online all evening. Join me at your convenience. I'll just play with some of the guys from ogryn chat or randoms.

Also, Jó étvágyat!

[safe plover]

you dont know that

i am making a stew itll be a while 🚬

[forest spruce]

I will, works been busy so I haven't gotten really into it yet

I'm almost off though so I'll be able to get somewhat into it

[shy lark]

the scouring comes

[simple cloud]

Lmfao I love the Tempestus Scions in The Warmaster

[runic root]

Lol it releases on my birthday.

[runic root]

Seems to have taken the entire evening, when i left at 22:30 you hadnt showed.

Was the stew good?

[safe plover]

yeah it was

it only took 3 hours

i played some mass effect afterwards didnt have the focus for DT

[runic root]

Worth it. Stew is soul food. Nothing like a good stew with freshly self baked bread and an ice cold beer 😋

[runic root]

Fair enough. Pubs was a nigjtmare tonight. Sooo many dunderheads

And i havent seen so many ragequits since ive last played heresy.

Even got called a tourist today

He wanted us to pull back but he neither typed it nor used the ping

He used voicechat which 90 percent of people (myself included) have turned off...

No wonder i didnt hear him

He wished us a happy whipe and ragequit.

[safe plover]

nothing spawns anymore idc why people bother larping

[smoky bronze]

You don't like hearing all the sounds in an xbox players house?

[safe plover]

thats not a thing in the EU

i can count on one hand the instances of hotmicing ive had

[runic root]

No. The first russian i came across cured me from the affliction of wanting to hear the cacophony of random screeching.

[brittle tapir]

hrut mentioned in kingmaker

[frigid osprey]

Part of the Horus Heresy series

why won't it just end

[tall phoenix]

Im tired boss

I cant do this anymore...

[simple cloud]

Ru kidding lmfao

[frigid osprey]

i never kid, son

[quaint canopy]

I just finished Eisenhorn Xenos and there was a paragraph that amused me.

I wondered if the pitiful white things were a separate race enslaved by the saruthi, or a bastardised, mutant caste kept in servitude. The invasion, it seemed, had freed them to turn on their owners and butcher them. Such is the price of slavery, sooner or later.

I wonder if Eisenhorn considered this to apply to the Imperium?

[tall phoenix]

LMFAO

Yeah definitely not, its probably the joke

[cerulean peak]

It's not slavery. Humans have the honor of serving the god emperor

[simple cloud]

I wonder how much of the Eisenhorn arc Abnett had in mind when he wrote Xenos.

Man really took a humdrum tie in novel assignment and created the foundation of modern Warhammer lore

[tall phoenix]

Basically none id wager

a lot of famous authors tend to make shit up as they go along

which is very normal, especially when you dont expect the novels you write to blow up ala the first Gaunt's Ghosts

[simple cloud]

I guess he had an endpoint because the inq game featured old man Eisenhorn

I was gonna say he sets up a bunch of stuff but then realized that.

[simple cloud]

How dare u say this GRRM thought of the entire text of A Dream of Spring while still in the womb

I have just started Anarch and boy oh boy has shit gone down

[tall phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1027699335632269379/1337892860741161153/1027716679817502781.webp

[smoky bronze]

I remember paul and storm wrote a song about george r r martin finishing this book at least 10 years ago

"Please keep in mind/
In the time you've been working/
William Shakespeare churned out/
Thirty five friggin plays"

[tall phoenix]

tbh

the issue with that is a play is a play

not an overarching way too needlessly detailed fantasy epic

[brittle tapir]

some artists have worked on personal projects for decades

[smoky bronze]

malazan book of the fallen was done in 12 years WITH spinoffs

though i think steven erickson might be some kind of savant

[smoky bronze]

honestly its just a funny verse its not like shakespeare only wrote bangers either

[simple cloud]

Idk what u mean I require exceedingly detailed descriptions of food and uh

[wide mica]

Me when I write 90 detailed story characters and then decide to put them all in the same place in the same plotline and I have to figure out a way of resolving it in a way that's satisfying for each character.

[tall phoenix]

no

[tall phoenix]

Yeah thats his problem.

He makes his stuff way too realistic, like that is great in small doses but when you make every single goddamn character have real motivations and political needs/wants it becomes a clusterfuck as you are the sole person responsible for making these storylines lmao

[simple cloud]

Not the Lebanese Knot or whatever it’s called

[tall phoenix]

Meereenese Knot

the fuck is "lebanese" lmao

[simple cloud]

ya that’s wat I said

[tall phoenix]

getou-

[wide mica]

The show circumvented this problem by not including any of the characters which made Meereen complicated

Genius

[safe plover]

is he related to Jan itor?

[brittle tapir]

a country

[tall phoenix]

thats Lebanon

[brittle tapir]

lebanese is the adjective

[tall phoenix]

you're an adjective

[brittle tapir]

you're subjective

[reef nacelle]

Any of the Siege of Terra books worth a read?

[tall phoenix]

https://youtu.be/aZv0hp6Ge1g

Most honest review you are gonna get

Zero gushing and 100% upfront quality summary

[reef nacelle]

Ty, I'll give it a watch

[tall phoenix]

🫡

god speed

[safe plover]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Echoes_of_Eternity_(Novel)
this one 100%

[reef nacelle]

ADB, makes sense

[safe plover]

end and death vol 1-3 are also good but you need to skip the plot lines with ||Basilio Fo||

[tall phoenix]

Dont listen to this sharkbrained dingleton

his plotline is great

[safe plover]

🚬

no one believes this this

[gleaming plaza]

Hey guys im looking for a excerpt from a book the basis is a Space Marine chapter was charged with bringing a world into compliance, they make landfall and seeing the humans dont have weapons capable of hurting them one decides to make a point and march towards the lines alone hes shot at by cannons and small arms fire but it barely slows him down, he gets there and shows them the threats they face on a data slate

I remember this vividly but cant find it anywhere for the life of me and google is absolutely zero help

[smoky bronze]

Not familiar but sounds like the imperium
Sending a space marine on a mission like that doesnt make sense in lore but is 100% something i would expect to see anyway lol

I like the idea of the imperium 7 hour war-ing more primitive lost human worlds

[safe plover]

the first cain book is awful theres some nice lore about the guard and PDFs but thats about it

and tbh I really dont enjoy the journal style, if i wanted to hear a someone leave snarky remarks after everything I say i would

ok i wouldnt but you get the idea

[upbeat iron]

Here. It's a piece of fluff written and read by Baldermort so isn't considered a GW primary source, but is well written. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU0pC74CeD4

[simple cloud]

Anarch notes so far (early): a great deal is already paying off. I’m glad we’re back to some perspective on the enemy pov through ||Mkoll’s excellent adventure||. Abnett does that very well. And I just love and am moved by any scene with ||Saint Sabbat||. I’m glad that she has not been overused.

Also it wasn’t a particularly cringe application but lmao at Abnett’s using “microaggression.” Already aged poorly.

[gleaming plaza]

Thats what it was thanks a million my friend must have misremembered

[upbeat iron]

Happy to help.

[forest spruce]

So I got busy and haven't been able to listen much to silent king but about an hour in.

[smoky bronze]

called the silent king
talks

[tall phoenix]

GamesWokeshop strikes again

[smoky bronze]

they could have made him use sign language more like gamesCHUDshop

thats the spectrum we operate on here

though spoilers ||since i hear he just gives a lame supervillain speech maybe they should have just kept him silent lol||

[forest spruce]

The silent king spoke years ago guy

He spoke to Dante directly,

[simple cloud]

They’re transing the Necrons, Dilara. They’re transing the Necrons.

[tall phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/so-what-agree-maybe-columbo-gif-18453480

[forest spruce]

Btw what's up with all the arbites getting pushed into the spotlight recently

Feels like a dedicated push from the bigwigs

Hold on I need my foil hat

They are pushing arbites because the Amazon show is gonna feature them prominently, I have zero evidence for this but I swear

[quaint canopy]

Speaking of Arbites, I'm currently reading Eisenhorn Malleus and it seems they are being used for common enforcer tasks. Was their lore only settled after this book was published?

[tall phoenix]

remember that Eisenhorn is like over 15 years old

Arbites were basically treated as basic cops

its only by the release of Dark Heresy and years later recently that they got more solid revitalized lore

[runic root]

Careful. You were awfully close to a clad take with that sentence lmao

[runic root]

I am pretty sure scifi police brutality will go down, well especially given things in the US rn

[smoky bronze]

Maybe he should be called the laconic king ||sike the only laconic king is Sgt. Joe Friday from dragnet||

Any fellow 60s tv reference enjoyers here

[mental cobalt]

i love the interactions with sanguinius on his first meeting with the emperor and his legion

i see why people love him

very humble

[deft bramble]

Wow!! I didnt know hes so young in the books

[tall phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1027699335632269379/1337892860741161153/1027716679817502781.webp

[smoky bronze]

he definitely is over 15 years old

i can guarantee that

[deft bramble]

Ping Abnett

[smoky bronze]

ok actually
he might not be over 15 in realspace time you never know

he might have redone some years

[deft bramble]

Biomant psyker

[wide mica]

Finished Above and Beyond

||"...He was my friend"||

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

When the last words of the novel are just a knife to my fucking heart

[tall phoenix]

I TOLD YOU

also yeah im glad you now prob see this is why prob one of my favorite 40k novels ever

no space marines, no big epic battles, just people going against each other and layers upon layers of trauma-drama

[wide mica]

The recurring narrative of the cost of both truth and lies, Simlex has his life ruined (and by extention Shard and Plients) by his attempt to tell the truth and then Plient and Shard have their lives ruined because they both lie to each other.

Plus when Shard has her breakdown and shouts at Simlex about how if he hadn't been an idiot and had listened to her about the Film, the three of them could have retired to some pleasure world.

Loved everything, really hope there's more on the way

Need another Shard novel

[wide mica]

They better announce another one in the Livestream on Friday

[tall phoenix]

That entire scene is what made me turn around on Shard

i think shes still a piece of shit but now at least I fully get why shes like this

[wide mica]

Also I love how Denny Flowers wrote the reveal for what happened betweent the two of them after Outgunned, was half expecting a scene just showing us what happened, but the way he revealed what happened purely through drips and drabs in separate conversations to the point where I fully know what happened in that scene without it ever being directly quoted or shown.

[tall phoenix]

Yeah again its just written SO well.

I dont really know how to really explain it lol

also the absolute jump the novel makes from its very basic premise/intro before it goes off the rails is just excellent

[forest spruce]

Natasay the far seer putting what's essentially Vaseline to deal with the stink of people makes me laugh

[karmic jay]

From the recommendation of Bricky, I bought my first 40k books :)

[severe trail]

Good books

[simple cloud]

Wait how is that sniper man + boobsuit lady book by rath

Goddamn the infinite and divine cover is so ass

[severe trail]

It’s peak

Read it

[shy lark]

Rath writes good

[mental cobalt]

is vaults of terra good cause i see there's an omnibus coming and might get

[shy lark]

yea

[tall phoenix]

Yeah its pretty good

[simple cloud]

Yes