40k-book-club

[tacit raft]

its over, chill xD

[tall phoenix]

I read too much of it

its too late for me

[safe plover]

https://i.imgur.com/kpiwagY.jpeg

you as the small wolf

[tall phoenix]

So real homie 😔

[tacit raft]

its like a job conditioning xD

[shy lark]

get owned liberal that's what you get for reading horasy heresy

[tall phoenix]

waaaa!

[simple cloud]

Based

[tacit trail]

im so close to finishing the heresy...

so close...

freedom is within sight

[simple cloud]

WHY the fucking Fabius cameo

WHY

So annoying come on

[tall phoenix]

its such a weird thing to include lol

and like-

hes just there???

He does nothing and leaves lmao

[safe plover]

whos gonna tell him..

the ending

its gonna fucking hurt

[tall phoenix]

Yeah Sanguinius dies

[safe plover]

no

[tall phoenix]

yes

[safe plover]

the last line in the end and the death vol3 killed me

i cant listen to warhammer books still

[tall phoenix]

What lol

[safe plover]

||this has been my end and my death||

[tall phoenix]

AUGH-

https://tenor.com/view/crashout-skeleteon-skeleton-meme-skeleteton-crashout-screaming-gif-2819917983570648755

[safe plover]

https://tenor.com/view/horatio-csi-miami-yeah-meme-gif-16346536

[tacit trail]

NO

WHAT

[severe trail]

Is this the end and the death

It’s the end and the death

Who doesn’t like the end and the death

[tacit trail]

cant wait for horus heresy 2

60 more books

[severe trail]

[tacit trail]

They had to include the cameo of fabius bile so in the next book then can show that fabius made another clone of horus

so the next heresy can happen

[simple cloud]

…..

God FUCKING damn it

Why

Why

KYYYMMMEEEEEEE

[tall phoenix]

OWNED

[tacit trail]

peak writing

[simple cloud]

Jesus Christ it’s like Dilara hacked the MS and put this shit in there to troll me

And I had gotten to the last couple pages and was like “well at least there isn’t… DAMN IT”

“Brother, alas that we live to see this The Horus Heresy: Siege of a Terra — Era of Ruin”

[safe plover]

nothing beats "this will be an empire unremembered" in guess which book

[simple cloud]

F

[tall phoenix]

All jokes aside

Out of like all the stories I maybe only had 3 I actually liked.

The others are such "why is this a story"

[reef nacelle]

These are giving Corax's book ending a run for it's money

||Mopes about in his tower for a while, then says "Nevermore" before pissing off to the warp||

[tall phoenix]

NOOOOO

[tall phoenix]

Also the funniest part about this is we got another book that references Poe

[safe plover]

ancient terran heretic

show me the fucking inquisitor that decided that

[runic root]

Gotta sneak the title credits in there like cinemasins lmao

[runic root]

Truely a goth girl queen

[tall phoenix]

we are in M2

so

everyone in this era is a degenerate imo

[safe plover]

isnt poe in M1?

[safe plover]

thats M-20

[tall phoenix]

[simple cloud]

Abnett PLZ

Not you too

(btw i like the uwu silent sister story, Dilara)

“I wish there was a book, maybe a book called THE HORUS HERESY: SIEGE OF TERRA — SATURNINE, BY DAN ABNETT”

[oak pollen]

whats happening here?

[tall phoenix]

I liked it minus the uh

HEY READER GET IT, THEY ARE READING BOOKS FOR ESCAPISM JUST LIKE YOU!

Thanks Abnett, very deep

[tall phoenix]

Its a Sister of Silence helping a small band of imperial army defend a large book chamber they are trapped in from traitor waves

[simple cloud]

Sigh

[oak pollen]

no i mean the source of the "not you too"

[tall phoenix]

oh lol

[simple cloud]

Yah I really liked the Silent Sister bits in Saturnine etc and I like this & I think Beta is my favorite 40K character

I guess I just like cold soulless people

[tall phoenix]

True...

anyway read the next one!!!

[simple cloud]

Still on this one

[tall phoenix]

boo!

[celest heron]

Thats a tall ass sos

[simple cloud]

U sayin she got a white girl ass

Or worse

The John Lennon

[tall phoenix]

Frontal view and also everyone is crouching/sitting on the floor

[severe trail]

She’s standing on a rock

[viral juniper]

GW's tactical rock™

[severe trail]

Krole scale tactical rock deployed

[tall phoenix]

aw hell no

[severe trail]

She doesn’t even have the most comical rock for talons

Lol

[tacit trail]

Finished eisenhorn xenos

Pretty good

[simple cloud]

They just get better

[tacit trail]

So I've heard

[simple cloud]

And more importantly what’s her face just gets boobier

[mental cobalt]

I now own all the gaunt ghost book omnibuses 😌

paperback*

[simple cloud]

@tall phoenix only the Wraight story left

[tall phoenix]

What you think so far

[simple cloud]

Like… where’s the rest of it

This would be fine as the first 1/3 of an anthology

Nothing so far is like egregiously bad as far as writing. Some of it is quite touching.

I like the Haley one and I like the Abnett one.

I don’t get the point of the admech one really

The first one w the blood angel is just like…..

We already got this in the end and the death part whatever

I find it crazy we get no new info or hints or anything in the adb one considering MoM was a revelation a minute

Tell me something. Tell me the corpse on the chair is the size of a normal man. Something.

[tall phoenix]

Yeah i think even if you liked or disliked it this should be a universal consensus imo.

the issue is it very much just explores nothing, you really get that feeling with some of these, the absolute worst i think is that Thorpe one where we just get the lion's gate port with an obliterator virus for some reason lol

I think my only favorite ones are the one with Katsuhiro because it actually somewhat explores post-siege terra and what the people are reduced to doing, even if he gets a freebie in the ending lol

[simple cloud]

Yeah I thought the ending would be darker but this is my fave

[tall phoenix]

Dude

i legit expected him to die on that fencepost

it would be an extremely bold move, might have been what ive done personally

[simple cloud]

Yes same.

[tall phoenix]

🤝

[simple cloud]

But

Good yarn.

[tall phoenix]

Yeah im sentimental i still liked it

though funnily enough the last short seems to have brought up the biggest fuss.

People are very mad at Diocletian's inner 3-page rant against guilliman with the primarchs crashout lmfao

[simple cloud]

… why

It seems in character and so on

Also it’s on the money more or less.

[tall phoenix]

Because hes hating on primarchs

something r40klore spends 24 hours circlejerking

Literal second top post

these mfers are obsessed

If you want the actual thread though here: https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/1lgpaas/era_of_ruin_diocletian_being_uberbased_settling/

Its a goddamn saltmine

[oak pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/mines-zoolander-cool-swag-walking-gif-16900555

[tall phoenix]

I love it

[oak pollen]

me on my way to check reddit

[tall phoenix]

these guys are endless 😔

[oak pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/hazmat-dancing-turnt-lit-gif-4105252994986870111

[simple cloud]

….. have to scroll down 50 posts to get something thoughtful lmao

[tall phoenix]

KEK

[oak pollen]

me on my way to the steam forums

[tall phoenix]

I love it again

"NUH UH CUSTODIANS ARE ALWAYS ARROGANT"

this is like a batman fanboy tier debate

[simple cloud]

Diocletians your real fathers are out there giggling and spewing metaphysical bodily fluids in hell goes pretty hard it’s true

[tall phoenix]

😭

[simple cloud]

Obv I hope it’s never revealed that he did or didn’t make a pact

Unless it’s something hilarious like Guilliman finds out he was the one promised to them as the Horus and big E was so mad bc they took Horus instead

“I made this one extra annoying so everyone would be glad when he fell!!! Damn it!!”

[tall phoenix]

He definitely did make some sort of pact

[safe plover]

his soul was split everywhere 😭 and thats not including the part he left in the warp you'd have to kill him to allow his sould to reconstitute itself in the sea of souls 😭

[tall phoenix]

we just dont know what it is

[tall phoenix]

His split was split between my ASS

[safe plover]

those guys dont read or listen to books

[tall phoenix]

[simple cloud]

Based

Literally

[safe plover]

emperor can do the splits confirmed

[simple cloud]

Ya I guess going theories are 1. Pact was that chaos would get some of the kids

And/or

2. That in due time He would join them in the Game

[safe plover]

not to change topics or anything but anyone into mass effect

should i kill kaidan or ashley?

[severe trail]

as in who has the better arc

or like

[simple cloud]

No boring ass derivative universe

[severe trail]

lol

[simple cloud]

Descent Freespace did it better

[safe plover]

he prolly promised them half of his sons

but what they did know was that he changed which half they would get thats my theory

[simple cloud]

So cold

But in keeping with myth and legend

Sacrificing firstborn etc

[safe plover]

like he prolly would have lost if dorn swapped with mortie and Gman swapped with angron

[simple cloud]

Actually the very near-eastern civilizations we’re supposed to believe he’s from

[tall phoenix]

Ashley.

SHES MID!

[simple cloud]

Were known for infant sacrifice

[safe plover]

i fucking hate ashley but she has a family and kai is an orphan

[simple cloud]

Or at least offering of stillborns

[tall phoenix]

THEN WHY EVEN ASK

[severe trail]

lol

[safe plover]

i dunno

[simple cloud]

Ass Effect 🤮

[safe plover]

blocked

noob

[simple cloud]

Ok the second one is pretty good

[drowsy urchin]

big

[oak pollen]

its like the only good one imo

[drowsy urchin]

also pre orders for this next week as well

[simple cloud]

Lmao that cover is ass

I will dutifully read this book however

Hoping it is good

[lost temple]

Yeah finally, my trilogy of Ravenor's omnibus is finished ! 😅

[fringe thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/40k-warhammer-gif-20408104

[simple cloud]

!!!!

[wide mica]

With Above and Beyond getting a reprint, I advise anyone who hasn't read it and Outgunned to do that

[celest heron]

Kaiden is more annoying though.

Best girl is garrus though

[runic root]

Ez egy szek

[vale wren]

Zarhulash the Potentate ♥️

Sometimes it takes and eldritch god to be best girl

[simple cloud]

What the fuck this stupid White Scars one is making me tear up

y

[tall phoenix]

Because uhhhh

old woman

THE DREAM

OF UNITY

😭 😭 💦 💦 🗿

[simple cloud]

It’s just the whole tone and the goodbyes

[tall phoenix]

oh right yeah that too

shoutout to the cannibal marine as well

[wise turret]

https://tenor.com/view/the-master-fallout-fallout1-gif-25672301

[simple cloud]

Ahhhh I finished that one destroyed me 😭

Ok with this one there are a fair few stories in here I like

[lost temple]

Ravenor is that you ?

[simple cloud]

Reading Hyperion by Simmons. At very beginning. Initial thoughts: nicely written, pretty good characters (though more like movie / show characters in that they’re pretty ostentatious), kind slightly weird-future 40K vibes, lays it on real real thick with the Keats references.

[tall phoenix]

Can you say perhaps

you are in the thick of it 🤨

[shy lark]

Hyperion is pretty good

Bit heavy on the Keats sauce though yea

[tall phoenix]

jokes aside i remember it being an ok book

[simple cloud]

It’s like considered to be this GREAT WORK of sci fi

Seems good idk. I do think Dune is a great book.

[drowsy stone]

New vet coat is EISENHORN'S

Boobyaa

Pre renegade/heretic eisenhorn tho

For some reason he went with gold and green color scheme in later years

[simple cloud]

Wat really

… guess I’m buyin cosmetic slop like a chump

[drowsy stone]

Yah says gregor's coat, it's the same coat as in his model IMO

[drowsy urchin]

and it SUCKS that it's on the Vet and not the Psyker

[smoky bronze]

I really like the first 2 hyperion books

It helps if you see them as structural references to the canterbury tales and like all the keats stuff

The back two books i like concepts from but not the actual story that much

[mental cobalt]

isn't that kid from ravenor hyperion?

[mental cobalt]

is there a way i can read parts of the era of ruin and not the whole thing

the carrion one by aaron seems to be good

[tall phoenix]

nope its an anthology

so all the Shorts are crammed in it

[mental cobalt]

||Of the Silent Sisterhood,
only Jenetia Krole exists, and she has yet to cut out her tongue. She stands
some way from the Emperor, sensed by all but seen by none. They know
she is here somewhere.||

so with the silent sisterhood

i've noticed that they aren't ever really seen

is that just blanks in general

[tall phoenix]

They are seen.

You are only invisible if you are a SUPER blank like Krole

[mental cobalt]

[tall phoenix]

since theres blank "levels" as well

[mental cobalt]

Is bequin a superior blank

i just remember when reading pariah, deathrow spoke and said "because I can see you"

[tall phoenix]

No shes a lower tier

[mental cobalt]

[safe plover]

she still unique ok?!!?!?

she said the words of bullshit without much damage and managed to remember one of them at some point!!!

[tall phoenix]

[safe plover]

hate the writer not the me

[mental cobalt]

could Diocletian kill Roboute

[severe trail]

fuck no

I mean he could try

but it would probably not go well

[mental cobalt]

do all the custodes hate the primarchs as much as him

[severe trail]

no

He just was designed to be critical/complain/be an asshole

[deft bramble]

any good 40k fanfictions?

[tall phoenix]

[hybrid turtle]

trazyn x orikan

[vale wren]

What running a crusade does to a mf

[tacit trail]

Emperor x Malcador

[simple cloud]

Lmao

[simple cloud]

Ok the blank tiers thing makes no sense. How can you be “more” soulless it’s a binary

[severe trail]

It’s not being soulless

It’s having an anti soul

Like an inverted soul

[simple cloud]

Tf that shit even mean

A soul is the warp reflection of a living material being.

Or the warp presence

It can be of varying… intensities? But it’s either there or not.

Tf is an antisoul is there an antiwarp

[severe trail]

There is a literal void that sucks in warp energy rather then a soul

It acts like a soul in all other ways

[simple cloud]

Sucks it into… what

Is it a supermassive immaterial object lmao

Like a material black hole but warp

[severe trail]

Sucks and then spits it back out?

Who tf knows

[simple cloud]

Wait what r we talking about again 😳

[proud skiff]

anyone have any good commissar recommendations? i've been reading gaunts ghosts, tried caine but the story was too jumpy. It felt like snippets of short stories more then an actual book

[unborn merlin]

You still have the Yarrick books.

They're solid, nothing groundbreaking.

[proud skiff]

i couldnt find them when i was looking

[unborn merlin]

What format were you looking for?

I know they released the omnibus in paperback recently.

[severe trail]

Yarrick and Sevrina Raine’s novels

Raine is very much a more “normal” comissar

Which sets her apart from the other big comissars ironically

[reef nacelle]

So she's a real bitch that gets shanked by her squad at the first opportunity?

I've seen a theme in 40k lore

[severe trail]

No, which is why I put normal in quotes, she’s in reasonable territory but she’s not as nice as Gaunt or Caine. She’s def more like yarrick in terms of uh, what’s the word. Being a hardass lol

She isn’t the I will kill you if you take one step back commissar but she’s closer to that style then any other of the big comissars but yarrick

Which I enjoy

It’s nice having a comissar who actually does comisssr things in the somewhat horrifying and evil manner that it’s depicted as

[shy lark]

Valedor is still pretty good can confirm
GW should stop fumbling Yriel

[smoky bronze]

Gaunt cant shoot his soldiers they stopped making replacement sprues

[simple cloud]

Shouldn’t have made em outta nalwood

[fringe thorn]

55 USD for a physical book of Gaunt's Ghosts The Saint Omnibus

😔

[vale wren]

Stopped making the model but kept the datasheet, classic gw smh my head

[lusty elm]

I feel so bad for psykers 😫 in the book I’m reading now the squad has a sanctioned psyker and the poor guy does his best but everyone is so rude to him and abuses him and if he even talks out of turn the captain or commissar has his gun out of his holster

[wise yew]

Oh he's pretty lucky

[lusty elm]

I know usually they end up much worse but still it’s sad cuz the guy literally pushes himself so hard for the squad and he gets hated on and has to sleep in a tent away from everyone else

[wise yew]

Yeah but that's the price of being a psyker

Unfortunate as it may be

Those guys are walking storms of energy

[lusty elm]

It’s established though that he’s stable and very capable and has lived way longer than most other psykers in the militarum

And the other characters even have internal monologues where they reveal it’s not that they think he might blow up at any time cuz he’s proven to be reliable, but they just can’t reconcile themselves with his power and are disgusted by him

Just makes me sad

[wise yew]

That's the unfortunate thing with the imperium you're different you're not with them

Hey at least take solace in the fact that he's in a much better

Position than the rest of his uh

Kindred

[tall phoenix]

^

Its pretty hard to read for some folks due to that, same with how when you play Darktide the other characters will usually call you a "freak" like the zealots lmao

[wise yew]

Listen liability

Is crazy work

[lusty elm]

Doesn’t help that they’re all Cadians in the book lol

Including the psyker

But also makes darktide psykers seem like they have abnormal amounts of autonomy. Cuz like I said this psyker almost gets executed on multiple occasions just for trying to help by speaking his mind

And the captain actually pulls him aside and warns him that if it were anyone else he would be dead already

[tall phoenix]

They really dont, you are given the mission and you most go out to do it. Also their autonomy largely comes from not being surrounded by tons of guardsmen and just other Inquisition operatives who despise them but somewhat know their value.

[wise yew]

Oh they are not

Compared to the guy on the book

Darktide psykers are walking time bombs

[lusty elm]

I would assume darktide psykers are pretty locked up securely when not on a mission lol

[drowsy stone]

Nah they roam free on the paradise where black ships take them

[brave summit]

ive just finished the first Gaunts Ghosts omnibus recently, how good are the remaining ones? cause i love it and it slaps, but gonna read some other stuff before i come back to it

[severe trail]

Quite good imo

[orchid robin]

He gets a very satisfying to read STFU moment though, even if it's not entirely his choice.

[fringe thorn]

Third omnibus is when Dan Abnett changes from writing Gaunt's Ghosts for White Dwarf magazine as short stories to proper novel structure from looking at online forum discussion of the series.

[mental cobalt]

Abnett's ghost and inquisition series are really good

[fickle quarry]

I’m reading Eisenhorn omnibus right now

[spark jolt]

Got my first physical copies yall

Now I gotta decide which one to lay into first

[sage pelican]

My first physical books were (and still are, unfortunately) the full omnibus of Ciaphas Cain
(the hero, savior and defender of the imperium)

I kinda want him to be name dropped in dakrtide
Or even shown

[high willow]

He was on the wrong side of the galaxy, I think

[severe trail]

he's dead

he died very very early m42

[spark jolt]

The Imperium seems to have a lot of those

[sage pelican]

Never off-duty, mind you

[spark jolt]

Technically my first book was Dreams of Unity but it was an Ebook

[severe trail]

tbh

if he comes back from dying peacfully in bed I will be impressed

[spark jolt]

Can anyone possibly tell me why Amazon has HH novels in paperback for 10 bucks US but the hardbacks are TWO HUNDRED futhermucking dollars?

[sage pelican]

I mean
That's my real hook to 40k, except for necrons maybe
I don't like space marines, I don't like xenos

Astra Militarum? That's my shit

(although salamanders and blood ravens are cool)

[spark jolt]

My favorite era has few books. My favorite characters are almost unmentioned, yet without them, there Imperium would never have even came to be

[sage pelican]

I wish there were books about dark age

[spark jolt]

The Thunder Warriors need more lore

Big E did em dirty. The least GW could do is give us some fkin Unification Wars lore

[severe trail]

Hardbacks were one time runs

[severe trail]

GW has said they're never exploring it

and I do frankly agree

There's no point in exploring the Dark age of technology

[spark jolt]

And overall just more stuff about the 20th and 30th millennia

[severe trail]

anything would be disapointing

imo

[sage pelican]

On one hand, yeah
On the other...

[severe trail]

I don't want more about the past

I want more on the present

tbh

Like could it be interesting yeah

but also it serves 0 purpose

[spark jolt]

I just want to find out somehow Arik Taranis managed to stabalize himself and is still alive in the current setting

It'd be insanely unlikely, but a man can dream

[sage pelican]

I also kinda wish for the status quo to be shaken more often
Like, release the clone of Fulgrim, bring back Vulcan

[spark jolt]

Vulcan will return I think

Trazyn may let loose the Fulgrim clone at some point but I'm sure it'll be in the midst of some absolute shenangians

[severe trail]

So you want another chaos fulgrim

have you read the bile books lol

the clone fulgrim

is just as fucked up

Vulkan will come back when GW wants

Clonegrim was also stated by the author of the bile trilogy as being a mistake from him because people literally missed the entire point of it

[sage pelican]

I want to see the reaction from Guilliman

I want them to have a confrontation

[severe trail]

"its fulgrim, but he's still an evil prick"

they can do that with daemon fulgrim

Clonegrim served his purpose in the plot of biles trilogy and for biles character to develop

Like there is nothing that changes the status quo

of another fucking fulgrim running around

Also GW has changed the status quo pretty recently

[spark jolt]

Anyone else kinda pissed they retconned the story to shoehorn in Ollanius Persson to save Emps instead of just a normal human guardsman? I kinda am

[severe trail]

Fulgrim is literally active again

[severe trail]

Well, here's the thing, it was never clear who it was

that shielded the emperor

the story was contradictory even back then

I don't like perpetuals but its a very whatever retcon

[spark jolt]

I guess I just find the idea of a normal human being that bad ass

[severe trail]

yeah thats fair

but it was always something that was a maybe this happened

[spark jolt]

Maybe save Persson for something else much cooler

Seems like he was wasted

[severe trail]

maybe it was a custodes, maybe it was a marine, maybe a guardsmen

ect.

[sage pelican]

I do wonder
Will we ever see the death/rebirth or something else with the Emperor?

[severe trail]

Well

they are basicially a God now

not a very strong one

[spark jolt]

So is there a chance Ollanius is alive still in some form?

[severe trail]

no

Ollanius got his soul obliterated

[spark jolt]

😦

R.I.P

[severe trail]

as in persson right?

[spark jolt]

Yeah

[severe trail]

yeah no he's

gone

[spark jolt]

Tbh, a normal guardsman dying for the Emperor and keeping Ollanius for a later story makes more sense to me and has more impact

[severe trail]

Ollanious got fuesed in mythology with another dude

which led to Ollanius Pious lol

[spark jolt]

Ugh

GW is such a dick tease

[severe trail]

Also GW did just fuse all the legends together lol

having Loken, the custodes dude I forgot and Ollanius

all protect the emperor

which I find funny

"they're all true now shut up"

[simple cloud]

Kill all the primarchs again.

Have Russ “return” but there’s a warp portal accident and it’s just chunks of dog meat

[severe trail]

I don't like primarchs coming back

unfortunately pandora's box is wide fucking open now

so too late now

lol

[spark jolt]

Are there other perpetuals

[severe trail]

Alive?

uhh

One at least

the GK dude

who just exists to fucking die horribly most of the time he shows up lol

[spark jolt]

I saw a video about Vulcan that called him a perpetual too but I think they didn't mean it in the literal sense

Kinda think they meant it metaphorically

[severe trail]

Vulkan is a perpetual

he cannot die via conventional means

he also hates the imperium

lol

Thank you war of the beast

what a god awful fucking series of novels you were

saying it should be burned is an insult to fire

[simple cloud]

Me

I am perpetually maligned and taken for granted on this channel where I provide so much wisdom

[lusty elm]

So you know the book I’m reading?

[orchid robin]

Cadian Blood

[lusty elm]

Oh yeah that’s the one. I’m not finished yet but liking it so far

[runic root]

True. You must be tired, especially since you always get consulted about your humility and selflessness....

[storm kettle]

I like how Cain doesn’t like it when people are mean to jurgen

[simple cloud]

Yes I am EXHAUSTED from doing The Work ty ty I feel seen

[sage pelican]

I wish there was more references to the gaming media in 40k books. Like the events of dawn of war, Titus, absurdly effective Malum Caedo
Maybe even Wolfer with his regiment

[severe trail]

The gameplay of Boltgun def isn’t canon lol

Caedo is built different, but he is not built like that lmao

[runic root]

He is a named ultramarine character. He is built however the plot demandeth

[tacit trail]

they're boring

[smoky bronze]

I cant remember where but something references idrick boreal's great dawn of war fuckups

Lmao he canonically lost five entire companies

Isnt that half a codex compliant chapter lol

[smoky bronze]

Dawn of war 2 based on lexicanum i guess

[tall phoenix]

It is lmao

its why the Chapter got crippled

also how the primaris reinforcements helped

[severe trail]

The chapter was still fucked up from DoW2 and 3 when they got primaris reinforcements lol

[inland patrol]

Finally got the audio book to listen to at work

[simple cloud]

Oh boy here we go

Remember 2 b truly one of us u have to read all the shorts 2

[inland patrol]

Only on chapter 3. Definitely a lot of information to take in and keep up with but it is good

[severe trail]

awful

[silver onyx]

Just finished reading the 2 Ufthak Blackhawk books and thoroughly enjoyed them. Definitely a great break from the “grim” aspect of 40k and made me laugh out loud while reading them. Hope to get a 3rd novel soon!

[reef nacelle]

I have good news

[silver onyx]

WOOOOAAAHHH! I mean…WAAAAAAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!

[reef nacelle]

Not a direct sequel but it's the same vibes

[inland patrol]

Still listening to Horus Rising. So far its good. I'll be interested in reading some legion books

[old grove]

One thing I will say is as you get to the second and third books of that trilogy the quality gets considerably worse

But you kind of have to finish the trilogy >_<

[inland patrol]

quality in the books or narration

[old grove]

Books

False gods and galaxy in flames are like

Ok at best

So fair warning don't expect those 2 books to be as good as Horus rising

[cerulean peak]

This

Book 4 and 5 are better though

Then it's the wild ride of varying quality for 50 books

[old grove]

Imo they should've just let Abnett finish the trilogy

Though I haven't read much after that

And I haven't read any of Graham mcniels other 40k books so I don't know if he gets better

Re reading NL trilogy after finishing watchers of the throne rn

[cerulean peak]

False gods is probably an outlier

Graham mcneil's book are better than this usually

[old grove]

I figured cause he's like written for a ton of other stuff before he did 40k right?

I think his league of legends stuff was before false gods

[cerulean peak]

Forges of mars, iron warriors series

Both are good

[old grove]

Which author was the one that just did a ton of boltor porn

[cerulean peak]

And in the hh; fulgrim and mechanicum were better than false gods for sure

Havent read thousand sons yet

[old grove]

I heard fulgrim was one of the better primarch books

[cerulean peak]

Theres many authors who do that

[old grove]

My lovely Aaron dembski Bowden will never fail me 🙏

Or Robert Rath

[cerulean peak]

ADB is in the top for sure

Rath too

[old grove]

Is Ian Watson good? I only know about

Draco

Which is not fair to him considering it was like

One of the first 40k books ever

[tall phoenix]

Uhhh

before he wrote 40k books he was a fetish author

[cerulean peak]

He's... weird? It's also OLD warhammer

[tall phoenix]

^

His books are legit fascinating

id say you should read his Draco trilogy just to say you did

its definitely a fun journey lol

[cerulean peak]

Read his stuff but keep in mind it's not relevant to modern lore

[tall phoenix]

Yeah its one of THE only ever completely retconned lore books

which is like 5

[reef nacelle]

Imperial Fist initiation

[tall phoenix]

his is the first 3 of that list

[old grove]

I've listened to enough podcasts about draco

I think I'm good

[tall phoenix]

Coward.

[cerulean peak]

I'm currently reading Lion: Son of the forest and it's better than thought it would be

[old grove]

I DONT WANT TO READ 50 PAGES OF DRACO FUCKONG A CALLIDUS ASSASSIN WHO CAN ONLY TURN INTO A GENESTEALER

[tall phoenix]

Its hot

[old grove]

I really liked Lion

[tall phoenix]

I legit do not understand people that dont like this book lol

[old grove]

Tbh modern 40k I think is in a good spot it's only older books I'm wary of

[cerulean peak]

I thoufht it would be primarch slop

[old grove]

Like Guillimans novel I heard was super boring but I guess that's a fair trade off considering he's the most covered primarch ever

[tall phoenix]

The older books are really not that much different from the ones we got now

[cerulean peak]

Brooks deserves his credit on that one

[tall phoenix]

Black Library has always been miss, mid, ok and great novel production wise.

[cerulean peak]

I've only read brutal kunnin' from him

[old grove]

I think most modern primarch stuff is probably gonna be good

[tall phoenix]

Uhhh

depends on what you want

ngl

[old grove]

Everything I've read so far has been good but I've only read like

Godblight

Watchers of the throne

Uhhh is the NL trilogy modern?

Infinite and the divine

[reef nacelle]

Are people hating on Son of the Forest?

[forest spruce]

Dark imperium is great imo and so is the lion book modern primarchs be pretty good

[tall phoenix]

Lmao yeah when you start to venture out and explore more novels you'll see more of the shitty stuff.

[cerulean peak]

I've read the first Cain omnibus back to back and I needed to purge my mind

[old grove]

Wolf time

[tall phoenix]

NL is like years old

its from the mid 2000's

[cerulean peak]

The novels are all the same

[old grove]

Dawn of fire

[cerulean peak]

In fact, all the pages are the same

[forest spruce]

Dawn of fire is trash

But I still read it

[tall phoenix]

The tip is to avoid reading them back to back but imo thats shit, because like every single book is indeed the same thing, I actually hate it its so lazy.

[forest spruce]

Can't wait for the silent king tho

[old grove]

Renegade Harrow Master was actually good I was a bit hesitant towards an alpha legion book

Silent king is gonna be so fire

[cerulean peak]

Every pages is the same lol

[old grove]

Rn I've been trying to read that weird translation of disco Elysium and I kinda quit

[tall phoenix]

Harrowmaster is so fun man, Brooks knows how to cook. Im glad he put down so much of the dumbass alpha legion memes people spew

[old grove]

Assassinoriun kingmaker is great

[forest spruce]

Yes

[old grove]

I heard really really bad things about

The other alpha legion book though

[cerulean peak]

👀really, i have that one in the backlog pile

[forest spruce]

Harrowmaster is great

[tall phoenix]

Lmao what were those "things" I gotta hear this

[tall phoenix]

to convince you

it has a bit where two Alphas are like

"Hey see that Hydra-cannon tank?"

"Yeah we should use it."

"Also lmao, its named Hydra, like our thing."

"Hehehe."

"Hehehe."

[cerulean peak]

[forest spruce]

Love those dumbasses

[tall phoenix]

CINEMA.

[old grove]

It was like I forget the book title but they weren't even acting like alpha legionnaires?

[cerulean peak]

Acting like an alpha legionnaire is breaking the disguise of an alpha legionnaire

[old grove]

There's a moment where a bunch of alpha legion warbands meet and one of them takes off their helmet and does the whole "I am alpharius" bit and they go "not this shit again fuck off"

[cerulean peak]

Based

[old grove]

And the protagonist admits that not even they know what alphariuses shitty plan was

[cerulean peak]

Ok it's the next in line

[old grove]

And they kinda just dick around

[tall phoenix]

Yeah its because people dont realise literally every single Alpha Legion cell does their own thing and are 95% traitors, this book does a great job of showing that and shattering the dumbass public perception the fandom built around them which has been wrong for like 20 years.

[cerulean peak]

Then I might go back to the HH

Since i have to finish my self inflicted journey someday

If clad did it, I can do it

[tall phoenix]

I love how one of the ALs also points at one of the warbands who says they are loyalist, and says "Yall mfers say you are loyal and do jackshit"

[old grove]

I think the book I'm talking about was sons of the hydra?

[tall phoenix]

Nah its Harorwmaster

[tall phoenix]

because I remember this bit

lmao

[old grove]

No no I mean the AL book that I was told is bad

[tall phoenix]

OH YEAH

that one is mid

[old grove]

I'm trying to find it

[cerulean peak]

Anyone read angron the red angel?

[tall phoenix]

Sons of Hydra is like a classic "nothing happens" novel

[old grove]

Is Legion good?

[tall phoenix]

Its very fun

id say give it a read

[cerulean peak]

Got it cheap and idk if it's good

[cerulean peak]

Ask Clad

[tall phoenix]

DO NOT read it.

Its another fucking book of

• Named after primarch
• Literally barely appears in the book, doesnt even have a Chapter to himself and no POVs of any kind.
• Follows a boring World Eater trying to make the legion get the band back together but wowie it fails because Angron is braindead
• GK antagonists that take even more pages than the actual main faction of the book, they also say they are gonna kill Angron but wow I wonder what happens at the end of the novel.

Actual waste of time, up there with Fulgrim's book that also has these exact same tropes

[cerulean peak]

Oh well; i will have to read it eventually because i have the copy but it's going bottom of the pile for now

[shy lark]

It's very funny how the Fulgrim novel portrays the Black Templars as the chad and the Emperors Children as the soyjacks

[cerulean peak]

Was it the world eater army release companion book?

[tall phoenix]

YEP

LOL

[tall phoenix]

Its hilarious.

like- the entire novel is also just so boring

"Well it makes sense for Fulgrim to not appear or do anything"

then why the fuck did I buy a book named after him

lol

[old grove]

NGL I don't envy me making a path all the way to the end and the death T_T

[shy lark]

who knows

[old grove]

Oh hey big top burger

[shy lark]

Fulgrim shows up and makes everything worse, and then barely does anything

[old grove]

Omg did you see the new eps

[tall phoenix]

Oof big finale with over 60000 pages

[shy lark]

hell yea dog

[old grove]

Every fulgrim moment ever

[shy lark]

There's some cool moments but overall it's very boring, alas Jude Reid strikes again

[tall phoenix]

Jude Ried

more like

Jude Mid

[old grove]

Also tho I'm actually pretty excited for marine legions to basically be making a return

[shy lark]

Tbf overall I liked Morvenn Vahl Spear of Faith so they get a pass for now

[tall phoenix]

hiss

[cerulean peak]

It's meta. To make you realise that EC can't feel shit anymore and they want anything to feel the barest emotion

[shy lark]

It's passable, at least. Mostly for the Night Lords being total shitheads

[tall phoenix]

My favorite part was uh

how a single heldrake contests an entire airspace

MOTHERFUCKER YOU GOT A FLEET OF SHIPS

[shy lark]

Hell yeah

[old grove]

That heldrake woke up

[shy lark]

Just use the gunships and nothing else

[old grove]

Snorted some crack

And went to town

[cerulean peak]

You can't beat heldrakes unless you do a pictograph puzzle thing

[old grove]

I need new sevatar books to come out

[shy lark]

I guarantee if I re-read it and didn't glaze Kol Rakhul just grabbing a saint and crumping her instantly I wouldn't be so in favour of it but I refuse to do that

[old grove]

ABD please

[tall phoenix]

the last book came out in uhh

on the end of the world 2012

rough times

[shy lark]

rip stink lords

[old grove]

But he saidddd his story wasn't finished

[cerulean peak]

That's most of the good series

[shy lark]

It has been fun revisiting those books

anything to put off snooze of ruin

[cerulean peak]

Everything came out in 2010's and fell into limbo

[tall phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/limbo-of-the-lost-mandaloregaming-the-king-of-limbo-ending-song-gif-11547720153151784580

[shy lark]

one of the games of all time

[tall phoenix]

Da King of limboooo

🗣️

[shy lark]

say the granny line i'd get blocked

[celest heron]

Best speed run rules

"Must sing the ending credits song or run does not count"

[simple cloud]

Is this shit actually good

[tall phoenix]

Its universally praised so

lol

[wise yew]

OK currently listening to the audio book of this and i just heard the straight up funniest thing i have ever had in warhammer

it's pretty good so far

[severe trail]

Nice

[reef nacelle]

Grotsnick

Harry Myers

Denny Flowers

I'm in

[wise yew]

you wanna know what was funny?

[severe trail]

I’m listening

Spoiler tag it

[wise yew]

OK so a grot did this

[severe trail]

That’s crazy lol

[wise yew]

yeah ||apparently this grot noticed that the groin hurts really bad when you stab it||

for humans

[simple cloud]

Ok but I’m asking you

I’m trying to think of something else that’s universally praised but actually ass but tbh the unwashed masses have pretty good taste

[tall phoenix]

Im not a NL fan but they are very good books.

[simple cloud]

k will add 2 very end of queue

[frigid osprey]

Night lords is genuinely good yer

[shy lark]

remember they're the only good guys among chaos

[tall phoenix]

[wise yew]

[celest heron]

Nah, blood gorgans are good too

[wide mica]

Love how Above and Beyond shows how horrifying an Ogryn can be

[wise yew]

People often forget those guys could break a tank with nothing but trusty pipe

[wide mica]

Yea, it's briefly a horror movie when the Ogryn ||is ripping his own allies apart with his bare hands because the lights were off and he didn't realise they were friends||

[wise yew]

Now that is horrific

[celest heron]

I imagine he would be very sad whe he finds out

[wide mica]

Nope

[tall phoenix]

iirc he was fully aware of what hes doing, he just doesnt care

and his reaction was something akin to "damn that sucks lol"

[wide mica]

Yea like he was told to protect the room, didn't specify against who

Also when I was first reading the scene I was half expecting it to be some Drukhari monster in that room, like a Grotesque or something.

[tall phoenix]

[wide mica]

I'm also really on edge because I've been reading the book during my breaks at work and during Lunch I thought "Oh I can quickly read one more chapter before I've got to get back" and then ||The Chapter ends with Shard's plane exploding and being presumed dead|| and I'm just sat there like I now have to stand up and get back to work with this revelation swimming in my head.

[tall phoenix]

Id suggest waiting until you got some more free time after that bit

the book EXTREMELY picks up fast

you are basically entering Arc 3

[forest spruce]

Wait void exile already came out?!?!?

Curse black library how dare you release two books I really want in one month

https://tenor.com/view/jesse-jesse-pinkman-he-cant-keep-getting-away-with-this-breaking-bad-walter-gif-11328503629570473915

[old grove]

Ooh a carcharadons novel

NGL I still find it interesting how daemons become part of their hosts when they possess them but they also still remain separate entities

Like with the exalted and vandred

[tall phoenix]

Its classic exorcism stuff

its pretty basic in concept, the novels just kinda yapyap about it to make it seem deeper

[old grove]

The exalted explains to Talos why he wants to help him but I don't understand why that's his motivation aside from the fact that it's probably just because he absorbed vandreds psyche?

[tall phoenix]

Its because daemons are assholes

they like trolling

[old grove]

Yeahhh but it's kinda funny lol I wish there was more reasoning from a faction called chaos

Damn I'm almost at the end of blood reaver though, so excited to read the ending again

[forest spruce]

I'm almost done with outer dark and I guess buy another credit for void exile and then wait till next credit for silent king

[reef nacelle]

Glad I saved my credit this month, void exile

[old grove]

Is credit just slang for money

Or is this like a webtoon situation where you can get tokens to redeem for books on some app

[reef nacelle]

Audible

[old grove]

I've never tried audible before

Admittedly I always obtained books from

Um

The library

Yes

The black library

[forest spruce]

I'm lowkey malding about it, I just got into carcaradons only for the book to release when I already have a book lined up

[frigid osprey]

Shout out to my buddy Shogo who just did some narration for Era of Ruin and also is narrating the new Carcharadons novel!!!!

[drowsy urchin]

Shogo has been in quite a few book lately

he narrated the earlier Carcharodon noves as well iirc

He's pretty good

[frigid osprey]

Ironically I've not heard any cause I don't listen to audiobooks :V

I want him to do something for Darktide, that'd be cool

[drowsy urchin]

I did find it rather funny that once BL caught some flak about the caricature asian accent they did for the Scars, they hired someone asian to do it for them instead (Shogo)

@tall phoenix post the "whenever a BL audio book features White Scars" meme

[tall phoenix]

A classic, Nute Gunray ahh voice-acting

[drowsy urchin]

real

[safe plover]

he also does the same voice for young women and daemons

[reef nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/coincidence-i-think-not-coincidence-i-think-not-the-incredibles-gif-5096707

[wide mica]

I should have listened

https://tenor.com/view/cry-sad-crying-sobbing-ugly-gif-25812720

[tall phoenix]

I TOLD YOU

[forest spruce]

Lol

[simple cloud]

Oh my god

Every time

(Most Asians afaik just find it funny)

[severe trail]

This is getting out of hand, now there are two of them

[severe trail]

I find it fucking hilarious because of how bad it sounds

It’s so bad

[smoky bronze]

I say this quote way too often

Practically every time i increase a quantity from 1 to 2

[wide mica]

||had just finished the chapter where Simlex shows Shard Plients video|| was holding back tears while working

[severe trail]

What did george lucas mean by giving them this accent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD_ag67tH3I

no like genuinely what was the thought process behind that accent

actually nvm its because thailand did a bunch of fucking trading back in ancient times isn't it

goddamit

[old grove]

I mean George has had some laughably bad ideas with Star Wars lol

And also a real fetish for twi'leks

[severe trail]

This still does not explain the other Nemoidians having a Japanese accent though

since only Nute has the really bad Thai accent

[old grove]

I feel like stupid + slightly racist is a good enough explanation no?

[severe trail]

I mean yeah

that really is

[old grove]

Classic george

[severe trail]

Also the uh

Banking clan in the cartoons when I was a kid/teen

for star wars

looking back on it

they really just turned the fucking bankers

into a jewish stereotype

either that or I'm mildly racist for seeing that

[old grove]

I mean

I don't think it's you that's mildly racist

Let's be honest

[simple cloud]

Yeah that’s real lol

[old grove]

Huge noses

Greedy

Nasally

Sneaky

Suspicious

Run the banks

[simple cloud]

Bless Toby longworth truly but omg

[severe trail]

He did the best he could

lol

[old grove]

Also I can't believe he Lucas wanted a sith lord named darth icky

[severe trail]

the worst part is they didn't even have

the big nose in live action

THEY ADDED THOSE

like I know its CGI

but like

[wise yew]

This looks like if Voldemort and a Raisin had a child and it got blasted by heat of the sun for five hours

[simple cloud]

Lmaoooo

Did they have the town from Borat employed as animators lmfao

“Yes this is Jew alien very nice” 👍 👍

[simple cloud]

Bro really tho im listening to salvation’s reach and it suddenly has a non longworth narrator and it’s so jarring

Like the guy is doing his best but he makes Hark sound jolly(??)

Also the end of Blood Pact suddenly made me tear up twice damn it Abnett

And now this fucking book starts with our finding out that the operation is so difficult they’re getting ||three Astartes||.

This is gonna be bad isn’t it

I’ve avoided spoiling myself

[severe trail]

read it

[simple cloud]

I’m read reading Hyperion at same time ahhh I can’t add this to read reading list

[smoky bronze]

George lucas be like
"This alien is named John Gorbnox and he runs a margaritaville on cloud city"

Desperately waiting for glup shitto's inevitable canonization

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1097629551321948261/1388149593522311338/IMG_1716.png?ex=6867d78d&is=6866860d&hm=f37b5bfda75653b328c519e1fe941320449c15ee6dba02b1b1927e680133256c&

[wide mica]

It all stems from the fact George Lucas is a massive bullshiter who will go into an interview and make up the dumbest shit on the spot and then act like it's well established and something he'd planned all along.

Like Obi Wan is from the planet Stewjon because he was being interviewed by John Stewart when asked about it and Admiral Motti's full name is Conan Antonio Motti because he was being interviewed by Conan Obrien when asked about it.

Star Wars is a very serious setting, with very serious canon

[simple cloud]

More power to him tbh good trolling

But yeah the bones of the Star Wars setting aren’t nearly robust enough to hold all the shit that’s been strung on em

40K is fundamentally different in that way somehow.

The British are just better writers / storytellers lol

It’s more measured, for all its absurdity.

Stupid coincidental shit can embe handwaved as THE WARP but is actually comparatively rare. Like Star Wars is completely full of stuff like the incredibly dumb “ullanor secretly becomes Armageddon lolololol” shit

[severe trail]

The war of the beast is awful

[shy lark]

Freakin' George Lucas rests on the laurels of Kershner and Marquand

and the war of the beast should be retconned 120%

[wide mica]

Yea like the success of New Hope is more down to Marcia Lucas than George tbf

[shy lark]

and marcia lucas yes

I'm not convinced George Lucas could pour water out of a boot with instructions written on the heel

[tall phoenix]

He has creative ideas but hes by no means a genius.

he definitely fits the definition of a hackfraud pretty well in some regard

[shy lark]

let me be a cynic, woman

[tall phoenix]

IM LITERALLY AGREEING

[shy lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1172931856916807791/1386046428350255206/thebiter.gif

But yeah he's fine with someone looking over his shoulder, he had Spielberg to bounce ideas with for a while

[wide mica]

I bet it stung George that his wife won an Oscar for Star Wars and he didn't

[tall phoenix]

it definitely did lol

[tall phoenix]

Also yeah that was what i was thinking of in saying he sometimes has good ideas ala all the brainstorm sessions with Indiana Jones

[wide mica]

He got too much of an ego as he got older, during the prequels he lied about Spielberg being involved to the rest of the crew, he would pass off his own ideas as if they'd came from Spielberg and he was just agreeing with them.

Or he'd pretend that Spielberg called in and was agreeing with him

[severe trail]

guh

[tall phoenix]

Lmfao

[wide mica]

Like he'd genuinely convinced parts of the crew that Spielberg was actually directing, just through him to get them to stop questioning him

[tall phoenix]

explains a lot honestly

[shy lark]

Very funny guy

[tall phoenix]

like even back in the first trilogy

the actors would outright tell him

"george this is fucking stupid"

[severe trail]

George lucas is

interesting

[tall phoenix]

Hes definitely

an old white guy

thts for sure

https://tenor.com/view/red-letter-media-rlm-george-lucas-laugh-maniacal-laugh-gif-7567467

[simple cloud]

I’m glad star wars exists the first three obviously changed pop culture a lot and gave lots of nerdy kids something of their own. Everything is fucking nerdy and weeby and quirk chungusy now so ppl forget how non-mainstream sci fi etc. were through like the mid 90s.

So can’t be too down on it or George Lucas.

But my god the franchise needs to be taken out back and shot

[tall phoenix]

No dice when it still makes money.

[high willow]

They got what, five movies in the works? The only people excited are the ones who will clap for anything

[tall phoenix]

🫡

[tall phoenix]

Reminds me of another fandom

"I SAW A PRIMARCH AND I CLAPPED"

if theres anything i hate its warhammer fans acting like they are above SW fans in any capacity when they are both the exact same kind of nerd, i guess one has more nazis but thats kind of it

[high willow]

And immediately demanding another release

[tall phoenix]

Lmao real

like we are at that similiar stage now

40k is going more mainstream and they are already complaining its "bad"

[severe trail]

I know what I am

I love mechanicus slop

[tall phoenix]

because uhhh women

[severe trail]

[tall phoenix]

admech dont count

GETOU-

[severe trail]

Adeptus slopanichus

I am a person who enjoys imperium content

but I also enjoy like

Every faction in 40k

Except for the leagues of votaan

[high willow]

It’s the best, and worst, time to be in this hobby

[severe trail]

Because they have no lore

[severe trail]

Featuring Henry cavil, as a servitor

[high willow]

That’d be wild!

[severe trail]

Jokes aside at this point I just like seeing Chuds get mad

I wish to skin culture war grifters alive with a hacksaw though

In Minecraft

[tall phoenix]

Mood.

[severe trail]

In Minecraft

[shy lark]

in the warhammers

It's a good thing I'm not in charge of the lore because I'd destroy several space marine chapters just to annoy people

[high willow]

Yknow, this puts me on a soapbox. There’s so many new “casual” 40k fans. So many people who know a little bit, but don’t truly appreciate the depth of the lore. They don’t read the books, play much tabletop, or heavily invest. I just hate to see it, even though it’s to be expected. IMO it’s more fun with a few diehard fans than with legions of folks who don’t REALLY care.
I’m not suggesting gatekeeping, never that, but it’s just unfortunate that so many people’s curiosity will end at the wiki page.

It’s good for the Reddit threads, tho

[shy lark]

It's fine, it's the same old stale memes from 2006 and memelore that's the true enemy

[severe trail]

I just want people to read the lexicanum and rulebooks

That’s the only thing I’ll gatekeep about lol

That’s my damn soap box lol

[shy lark]

We're nearing 10 years of Yvrainne being reduced to Guillimans sideho and nothing else and I was so tired of it week 3

https://tenor.com/view/every-day-every-day-i-wake-up-i-wake-up-marriage-story-marriage-story-wake-up-gif-19948669

[high willow]

cough bricky

[tall phoenix]

This is a huge thing yeah. They call tolerant people like us tourists when they are the tourists who do nothing but create discourse and try to gatekeep actual honest folks from joining the fandom

[forest spruce]

I just don't want a bunch of people who don't care about the property and actively wanna ruin it. Like look at what's happening to Velma it's my fears made manifest

[high willow]

Most of the big franchises have felt that, in some way. People come in trying to make it into something they like, rather than appreciating it for what it is. I jumped off the SW bandwagon because of that.

[tall phoenix]

You kinda forget that Warhammer does inclusitivity better tho

2018/Gathering Storm era has been great

[forest spruce]

I joined only a few years ago so idk what it was like before then

[tall phoenix]

every single miniature range was just

all male

same with artworks/books etc

[simple cloud]

True they r a problem. I’ve reported u at least 10 times 4 being a woman but there’s no true justice in the world

[tall phoenix]

it was really one-note

[tall phoenix]

🫡 🪞

[tall phoenix]

Like

[shy lark]

wrong, the pygmy era had coloured folk

[tall phoenix]

to give you an idea

we still got people today

getting mad that some space marines have dark skin on their miniature reveals by GW

lol

[severe trail]

space marine 2

💀

Also you can simply

[forest spruce]

Charions a bro

If somebody shits on him I'll kill them myself

[tall phoenix]

It was him and Gadriel

because one is black and the other is asian

this is how bad this fandom is sometimes lol

[simple cloud]

Based

[shy lark]

I honestly can't really recall anyone who's not lily white from 5th ed except for like, orks

[tall phoenix]

You kinda need to look to notice lol

its a very running theme

especially when you compared to covers now where they try to make the range of characters a lot more diverse

[simple cloud]

I am ok w Asians in 40K as long as they r voiced by Toby Longworth & have Ineffable Oriental Wisdom

[forest spruce]

Yeah I get that and I'm all for representation. But I don't want people to come in who want to actively want to change what Warhammer about. It's supposed to be this dark setting with unimaginable cruelty. Everybody is equal in the fact that they are all suffering

[tall phoenix]

I mean they wont.

GW does that job and they do it well.

so it doesnt really matter imo

[simple cloud]

True as I have said I am suffering bc women

[tall phoenix]

Yeah speaking of that, we are in a fandom who get upset the moment they see a woman on screen

so the bar is pretty low lol

[forest spruce]

That's just cause they don't talk to you

[shy lark]

Turning space marines into good guys, now that's tourism and why we need to destroy the salamanders and the lamenters

[simple cloud]

😭

I’m 2 dashing & intimidating not my fault

[forest spruce]

Honestly I don't mind female custodes but I kinda dislike how gw handled the retcon. And I also despise the female custodes story they made to introduce them

[smoky bronze]

Tfw it turns out places other than liverpool survived the unification wars

[tall phoenix]

What story

Tithes? lol

[high willow]

Reminds of the SoS meme where “Sisters are a reference to the fact that no male 40k fan has ever spoken to a woman”

[forest spruce]

The one where a custodes teleported a nuke into the throne room

[smoky bronze]

(There was no retcon people just don't know what custodians are)

[tall phoenix]

seriously

lol

[forest spruce]

I loved tithes

[tall phoenix]

any custodian would have done that

[smoky bronze]

There's no compatibility issues like with the gene seed procedure because custodians don't have a gene seed

[tall phoenix]

like, what is there to hate on that one

its their job to poke holes in the security

she wasnt gonna blow up the emperor lol

[smoky bronze]

And yeah lol before the rift maybe 95% of custodes content was wargames on terra

That was all they did back then

[forest spruce]

You'd think blocking against teleportation would be the basic defense in the palace else the traitors would of all just teleportedbinto the throne room 10k years ago

[tall phoenix]

this is warhammer

poor writing comes with the box

🫡

[high willow]

Yeah…

Especially how teleport jammers are a common ish thing

[smoky bronze]

Honestly since teleportation is warp travel i can't rationalize it working at all anywhere near the throne lol

[tall phoenix]

its important to remember

almost every codex excerpt like that usually falls apart when you think about it

theres a lot of ones like that just make no sense

ala for example a deathwatch killteam scouring an entire ive of hrud even tho Iron Warriors lost entire chapters trying the same thing in 30k lol

[high willow]

I’m looking for reason in an irrational age🤣

[forest spruce]

I just really do not like that story it's honestly one of the only stodes stories I actively dislike

[smoky bronze]

Actually i guess despite the probable insane conditions in the warp around the emperor, all you have to do is aim through the warp directly at the astronomicon

[forest spruce]

And not get obliterated by the beacon itself

[smoky bronze]

Well you're sending a bomb not a person

I imagine the throneroom is incredibly hostile to chaos though

Like the shadow in the warp but coming from one guy

[tall phoenix]

[smoky bronze]

Especially considering the emperor is leaky now compared to the good ol days