40k-book-club

[mental cobalt]

he def seems like he should be dead

but they don't kill primarchs unless their name is ferrus

[tall phoenix]

Yeah I normally wouldnt joke but like I HATE that pointless "OMG HES DYING/DEAD!" thing they do in the last few Siege books.

like, we fucking know he isnt, stop it lmao

[mental cobalt]

so that means Sanguinius can come back to us 🥹

[tall phoenix]

You just need to keep reading 😔

[mental cobalt]

😔

do we ever get to actually SEE Vulkan or is it all "he's there gaurding the gate"

[tall phoenix]

You do see him in the End and the Gyatt a bit yeah

but like, its just

"OH NO WE ARE SCREWED, ITS ALL SO SAD, WE ARE GONNA PERISH!" as he stands around in the throne room

[azure acorn]

But don't you want to know more about the amazing adventures of JOHN GRAMMATICUS

Ignore the characters people like, we need more JOHN GRAMMATICUS

[unborn merlin]

Where's the John Grammaticus trilogy? I'm waiting Dan.

https://tenor.com/view/white-women-gif-15907114

I need ten more romantic subplots where John flirts with women 500 years his junior.

[sonic walrus]

He died

[sonic walrus]

He's busy watching malcador disintegrate while attempting to decide if he should blow up terra

[azure acorn]

Don't be so bold

John Grammaticus is the exact kind of annoying that can and will find a way to be brought back

[sonic walrus]

He can't. Mainly because of the events leading up to what happens in vengeful spirit. His death becomes a fixed point in time and space that if disrupted or changed would instantly end the human race and the galaxy.

You could do books earlier in his time line when he was working with the cabal

But nothing beyond his actions at the end of the heresy

[azure acorn]

Stop jinxing it

The more you apply logic to him the more likely he is to find a way to thwart it

[sonic walrus]

If you read the end and the death you'll understand

[azure acorn]

I have

I know about the time loop and the silly string chase

I'm just saying there is no in-universe logic, no matter how concrete, that can prevent John Grammaticus from having a non-zero chance of returning from the grave to continue being annoying

[sonic walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/john-hamm-sure-okay-yeah-mmkay-gif-4356203

[frail prawn]

"There are no civilians on Krieg" - A Krieg novel, one hell of a book opening kek

[tacit trail]

Is it worth reading all the horus heresy books about modern characters who have their own series before reading these 40k books themselves?

Like reading all the HH books containing Ahriman and Fabius before reading their series for example

[tall phoenix]

Not generally no.

They barely are the same people they are in modern 40k

also the curse of multiple authors writing them

Best you can do imo is just read their lexi-page then stop before it gets to the modern 40k segment then read their books, Ahriman is a big can of worms due to how complex/in-depth his book series is but Bile is way more easier to understand

[tacit trail]

I already know pretty much all the lore, I just feel like I should read the books to better know the characters personalities

But then theres the whole issue with multiple authors so im not sure how consistent the characters are

[tall phoenix]

You really arent missing much still.

They go from optimistic to evil between like a single book lmao

Bile has also always been sus so his switch is like basically nothing.

[wise yew]

and it's basically almost 100% marines

you need to stomach reading that character type over and over again

[tacit trail]

yeah so many are so similar

I cant wait to be done with the horus heresy

currently finishing wolfsbane

gonna read the buried dagger, then siege of terra, and be done

[cerulean peak]

It's never worth reading the Horus Heresy in order to understand 40k

[cerulean peak]

Bile is his own kind of sus

It's not blatant shit like erebus

[tacit trail]

I just read it to understand the characters

[cerulean peak]

Like Dilara said, they really change in personality

And besides traitor dudes who spent "10k years" in the eye of terror, they're all dead

And traitor dudes changed a lot since the heresy

[tall phoenix]

^

[wide mica]

I've recently started reading Ushorans novel and I'd like to amend the common statement "There are no goods guys in Warhammer"

There is one good guy in Warhammer and it's Ushoran.

[drowsy urchin]

I should get that one as well, waiting for a few reviews if it's any good

[wide mica]

There is a scene in the prologue where he is supposed to be meeting one of his Lords at a Feast but he hasn't showed up to the meeting, so Ushoran is just sitting there thinking

||"I pray that Lord Grizzlerend's failfure to meet me here is just some foolish absentmindedness, even an open challenge to my cause. I would welcome either carelessness or treachery over the notion that my people suffer as I am distracted by revels and amusements. What King, put to the test, could want otherwise?"||

I love him so much

[drowsy urchin]

This sounds exactly like what I hoped it would be like

AND the best thing about the aduiobook, it's narrated by Richard Reed (GOAT)

[wise yew]

he does have multiple personalities yes?

is that reflected in the book

[wide mica]

From the lore he does experience bouts of madness and sometimes breaks out of his own delusion, but so far the chapters I've read have either been humans seeing Ghouls as ghouls or from the Ghouls perspective describing how they see it.

So the feast in this chapter is just described from the Ghoul perspective, so it's filled with ornate goblets, finery and the Ghouls all talking to eachother with elegant prose.

[wise yew]

yeah he has a bad case of mentally insane

his personality can flip in any moment

[wide mica]

Like he's just such a nice guy that his thought process is "God I hope he's just betrayed me and isn't in trouble or anything"

[severe trail]

I should get this book

Sounds like a great time lol

[wide mica]

We also get a description of him from the Ghouls perspective of him as a handsome King 3x as tall as everyone else

"With a larger skull for larger thoughts"

[wise yew]

I love the fact that like lore wise if you're not soul bound

Only literally two people

In the fec regularly break the illusions

[severe trail]

Bro is literally the god king the man in charge

[celest heron]

Honestly tracks even with the different personalities

Cuz 100 shamans in trench coat

[drowsy urchin]

Yeah think I'll have to get Ushoran after I've finished with my current Gaunt's book

[mental cobalt]

Finished Warhawk, will start Echoes of Eternity soon

[tall phoenix]

Lets gooo

[safe plover]

get ready for kino

[mental cobalt]

other than the lost and the damned, i've enjoyed the series

Mortis was nowhere near as bad as others made it out to be

maybe i just like the dynamic in titan/knight houses

[orchid robin]

Mortis had Legio Sinister, that in itself was a win.

[wide mica]

Made progress with Ushoran, still peak

[mental cobalt]

i have since Assassinorum kingmaker

[mental cobalt]

when they appeared i was like "who is this and why do they work so closely with the emperor"

they're just a titan legion made of blanks right?

[orchid robin]

Titanified psyker-hax.

[tall phoenix]

Special ordered null-piloted psy-titans yeah

they barely got any appearances minus a rulebook and this

[orchid robin]

There's a short story of one of their Titans fighting in the Secret War in the Webway. They operate completely differently than normal titan legios.

[mental cobalt]

they added a nice hype to their appearance, i was 👀 when they showed up

[tall phoenix]

Bold of you to assume people read those

[mental cobalt]

what is the webway btw

[tall phoenix]

YOU DONT KNOW?

[wide mica]

Ushorans foil in the novel being a gallant looking Noble who everyone believes to be a great guy, but who's really a bit of an ass is peak

[mental cobalt]

i know magnus did something to it that upset the emperor

[tall phoenix]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Webway

[mental cobalt]

so that's why he sits on the throne

when reading the SoT, they said Vulkan is guarding the webway. Does that mean he's standing by the throne?

[tall phoenix]

Yeah he is

he doesnt really leave the Throne Room mutch

[mental cobalt]

i always just pictured him standing in front of some portal

this makes more sense

[tall phoenix]

thats Big E's job

[arctic scroll]

I started the Bequin novels. The first book takes a long ass time to get going

[orchid robin]

Only fitting, considering how long Abnett takes to write them. Nine years between Pariah and Penitent, four years and counting for Pandemonium.

[safe plover]

i think its more theyre waiting for other plotlines to catch up

they made that mistake too many times in horus heresy

why should i care about weapon X,Y,Z i know theyll have zero impact in 40k because they dont exist in 40k

[tall phoenix]

No its because Abnett is extremely busy

He has tons of other shit to do/write besides 40k

hes a very popular author in some circles and is a well known name

[uneven crane]

I wonder if he get burnt out writing the umpteenth 40k story about some guy with no helmet and a name

[tall phoenix]

He very much does ye

he says a bit on the ending afterwords of End and the Deaf

shit like "If it wasnt for my wife supporting me id have probably burnt myself from writing this book for 3 years"

[uneven crane]

Christ

[tall phoenix]

Okay not exactly but yeah

book writing is hard lol

[uneven crane]

I hope he has personal projects he can indulge in as a break from Warhammer

[uneven crane]

RPing on another server right now and I find it hard to just figure out if anything Im writing is in character for my OC lmao

[tall phoenix]

Bro for real

I mocked George Martin for not being able to write a book for years meanwhile I cant write a 1k word homebrew thing and keep telling myself ill do it next day, week, month, etc

[uneven crane]

"Is this meta-knowledge? Would she do this? She comes from a poor family with sick parents, so she would know a thing or two about potions and medicines that they took, right?"

That kinda shit

[tall phoenix]

LMAO yea

[uneven crane]

Ive written one short story and that was years ago

Still proud of that one, 6.3k words

Its not great though

[tall phoenix]

Mood. 💀

[uneven crane]

I really REALLY wanted to write something else but bruh I gotta be in a certain mood

[tall phoenix]

Yeah otherwise you cant get the ball rolling

[uneven crane]

Mhmmm

AND EVEN THEN I gotta keep in mind of all that "Is this in character for her to say or am I just speaking for her?" shit

[tall phoenix]

Burnout and writer's block is real

[uneven crane]

Real

I wanted to make a bunch of short stories about this stupid short ass irish girl who rides on top of a bear and they dick around in a generic fantasy world but turns out when the subject matter is REALLY annoying, people generally dont remember them well

I had another one cooking a long while ago, where it was from the POV of some merchant selling a gun to a guy in a lighthouse, and said lighthouse guy was going to go off about how he was keeping track of a storm that was coming down from the mainland towards his lil town, and its just that Irish girl and her bear dicking around and beating the shit out of everything

[safe plover]

key word is shit

maybe he would burn out slower if he wouldnt write 2 chapters of slop in every book

[tall phoenix]

Shut the fuck up you obese whale-o-don.

[safe plover]

nononono you dont get it kasper hauser having bad dreams for an entire chapter is essential to the plot

[safe plover]

i bet you LOVED reading about fo making a super space marine killing super weapon

[tall phoenix]

I did because hes a fun character.

Also the aspect of genociding astartes is chad behavior

I MEAN

yeah it was okay

[safe plover]

and where is said space marine genocide?

[tall phoenix]

Look

he got a last minute call from GW and he was like

[safe plover]

do i really have to hear about some meme weapon that i KNOW doesnt get made

[tall phoenix]

"Fo we will retcon you if you release the weapon"

[safe plover]

🙄

[runic root]

Ive had an idea to write a novel about a modern boy in modern day germany being forced on a school trip, visiting an old castle, where, using some magical means ive yet to figure out, it turns about that the next day he wakes up in the body of his ancestor who used to be a noble page while his ancestor wakes up in his and needs to figure out puberty and school in 21st century. But i havent figured out yet how to start

[safe plover]

now you're writing dan fanfic

"hes super competent and a good writer!!!!"

[uneven crane]

Maybe start him on the bus and reminiscent the previous events that lead up to the trip

[runic root]

Noted

[uneven crane]

There's also the "Start at the noble bit, then go backwards" but that feels too much like a record freeze moment

[safe plover]

wakes up getting screamed at by his mom to have breakfast

[uneven crane]

Also if anyone wants to read that first story I wrote, I can DM you, but I dont guarantee that its good

You will CRINGE, you will CRY, and you will SHIT your pants

[runic root]

Also, ive no idea how to write novels since the only thing ive written so far is historical essays and analysis (because i have a Masters and Bachelors in History). But ive never written any Epic/fiction before so thats gonna be fun to figure out

[runic root]

I am willing to bet that experience is not unique to the 21st century

[runic root]

Noted. Maybe later

[uneven crane]

Id recommend learning to roleplay a bit first to get the idea of how to be inside someone's head, and maybe learn to DM or watch someone DM and see how they may describe things that the players may experience in a TTRPG. Its a different format, yeah, but similar ideas in terms of description and how characters bounce off another.

Also just read some fantasy/fictional novels lmao. You can pick up some ideas that you like, some that you dont, etc

I admit maybe I should read more in general

[severe trail]

"I'd rather kill myself then live in a galaxy where you exist"

Fo my GOAT for saying that tbh

[drowsy urchin]

Having a "I'm gonna fucking do it" -guy in the epic that is Horus Heresy is very important and great

[tall phoenix]

^

[tall phoenix]

Hes so fucking funny dude

[severe trail]

He's like

a horrible person

but he's so fucking funny

[tall phoenix]

Dude

his opening page character note is:

Baslio Fo - War Criminal

LMAO

[severe trail]

wait I just realized

the dude he killed called Xanthus

is that the same fucking dude who got incinerated by the Inqusition

and founded the Radical inqusitor like philosphy

[tall phoenix]

Yeah he is

one of the weirdest parts of the book

because he is burned on a pyre lol

[severe trail]

holy SHIT LOL

deep cut reference

this can't be how my GOAT goes out smh

[drowsy urchin]

I missed it the first time around too

[tall phoenix]

I love it because hes absolutely unhinged yet even he knows the Emperor is a numbskull

[severe trail]

I mean

The Emperors plan is

the more you think about it

fucking batshit insane

and stupid

[tall phoenix]

Manifest Destiny ahhh

[simple cloud]

U got a prob w that, Ottoman?

[tall phoenix]

Yeah, its stupid.

I dont even like Ottomans too lmao

[severe trail]

Lol

[simple cloud]

Empire good. Hunter gatherer existence is boring.

[tall phoenix]

Empires are stupid.

Its why none of them lasted.

[severe trail]

The revolution was a mistake

No not the industrial one

The agricultural one

[tall phoenix]

"omagerd they lasted for 102393 years"

Cool, they still fell

It was probably the woke media of the era

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/910400427277828147/1353491142833995787/image0.gif

[simple cloud]

We are literally Rome

[simple cloud]

Ok based I can at least respect this pov.

[tall phoenix]

We really arent.

also im not hearing this from the guy who literally defended eugenics like a few months ago

😭

Caesar's legion fan ass

[simple cloud]

Tf I did not defend eugenics

In the traditional sense of whatever people were doing with their little societies

But eugenics as in selecting against genetic disorders and being picky with mate selection

Is something people just do.

Like it’s covered by insurance.

And now we’re entering CRISPR world https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/infant-rare-incurable-disease-first-successfully-receive-personalized-gene-therapy-treatment

Though to be heritable it has to be delivered to germ cells.

(about which I have really mixed feelings but it’s here)

[simple cloud]

Empire leaves infrastructure behind. And systems of law and education etc. See: India. I am glad it’s independent but we also are aware that its existence as a nation owes in part to unification under the Mughals (cringe) and the British (sort of based but also cringe).

[uneven crane]

While I get physical traits as us being picky, us doing this I feel will make our species as a whole more homogenous, which may be good for organ transplants, isn't good if we get caught by a disease

[simple cloud]

I agree.

It is still happening.

[tall phoenix]

Okay but we still grow further from that and just do our own thing, what they leave doesnt mean much compared to half the other shit they do.

[simple cloud]

There are definitely positive traits being selected against. On the other hand, “good” genes are broadly pleiotropic

[tall phoenix]

its also just a really cringe slippery historical slope with people like romanaboos or angloboos

[simple cloud]

Physical prowess tends to correlate with intellectual etc etc. Still not always and it’s so complicated.

But yes I worry about various kinds of homogenization

[simple cloud]

Ya valid view tbh.

[tall phoenix]

Statue pfp users ruin everything.

what else is new

[simple cloud]

Lmao

Yeah that’s cringe

[safe plover]

have you ever said cheers?

thanks rome

[simple cloud]

No saying “cheers” is illegal in America along with “cheeky” and “loo”

[uneven crane]

I love the irony that the most unhinged, illogical ideas will come from these statue PFP users, who think the days of the past is where logic and harmony reside

[simple cloud]

Classical Western thinkers produced beautiful, thoughtful work. Some of the greatest stuff ever made by humanity.

But they were pretty engaged in the present. They weren’t really traditionalists.

I mean a lot of their stuff is universal

But point is they def would have been annoyed by the equivalent of the statue pfps

Also the postmodernists probably but that’s a different can o worms

Republic is pretty fucking radical / progressive

[tall phoenix]

Statue pfp users tend to also like

focus on the worst parts of older societies

"Yes we should definitely throw mutated/disabled kids off cliffs"

"Actually genocide IS good"

"Anyway so heres my thoughts on black-"

[drowsy urchin]

they're nazi propaganda accounts, simple as

[uneven crane]

"The Spartans were really freaking cool and I love their aesthetic. The same with Crusades-era Catholicism. We should strive to be the best of both and take from both cultures!"

[drowsy urchin]

some of them don't even realize that which is either funny or really sad

[simple cloud]

They’re deliberately contrarian

I feel like we dilute the horrors of the Holocaust by labeling everything and its dog Nazi but there just me

[tall phoenix]

Id agree but alas seeing how the world is changing now I can't say much lol

[simple cloud]

Yeah I’m not gonna push on that

[uneven crane]

I don't think you're wrong on that; I think there's a few folks that ABSOLUTELY hyper focus on the smallest details and scream nazi. However, I feel now is a good time to call out anything that is genuinely associated with that think.

[simple cloud]

I’m married to one of the tribe but I’m not of it so I can’t speak to the issue that directly.

One of the more horrifying recent social media phenomena has been the unholy union of left wing and right wing antisemitism

You hate to see it

[uneven crane]

That's awful

[simple cloud]

And the youngest Holocaust survivors are like 90 now. I think there will be a profound shift when there are no longer voices to convey the living memory.

Anyway.

[iron ore]

If I had to guess it’s because everyone hates Israel

[simple cloud]

I would say that European left-wing antisemitism in particular is of a much, much older vintage. With all the more recent crap layered on.

American right wing is often a set of conspiracy theories about some liberal new world order with Jews holding the puppet strings.

[safe plover]

ur saying a lot of words

the majority of israelis were in the IDF

now were getting flooded with israelis destroying medical equipment, leaving boobie traps, destroying private property, stealing jewelry all from houses they didnt have to bomb

[drowsy urchin]

There's no doubt that left wing anti-semitism exists, but I'm afraid alot of valid criticism against zionism and the state of Israel is unfairly lumped in with anti-semitism

[safe plover]

besides by definition arabs are Semitic too even the word itself speaks to a jewish tendency to manufacture guilt

[vale matrix]

It’s all liberalisms fault

[finite frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/opinion-bunny-cat-meme-tim-gif-5757637543570572724

[simple cloud]

I on the flip side have seen a lot of antisemitism couched as political criticism. But anyway.

[simple cloud]

Ye as is the cushy first world life we all live.

Apologies to the one guy playing Darktide with his goat on a hand-cranked potato

(Goats only play knife zealot)

[simple cloud]

Capitalism will uplift u soon 🐐

[vale matrix]

(It won’t)

[simple cloud]

😡

[vale matrix]

😝

[drowsy urchin]

one week to release

[simple cloud]

No shit ahhhhh

[simple cloud]

I am legit so excited for this one

[drowsy urchin]

[safe plover]

🚬

one week into retirement they pull me back in..............

[tall phoenix]

stop whining

🗣️

[runic root]

Probably dumb question, but is this the aftermath of

"mY kInG of aGEs vol. I-III"?

[severe trail]

Probably

[tall phoenix]

It is.

Like uh, right after.

just various short stories to act as a wrap-up

so thankfully not really a full-lenght novel

[runic root]

Thx.

Will you please let me know If it is skipable once you read it?

[tender flax]

Is it an anthology of the siege books or a continuation after the death and the end?

Ok I just googled it. Its an anthology of short stories after the death of Horus.

I wonder if they'll do a proper Scouring series.

[runic root]

Pls dont lest we have to listen to clads hate-reading takes about another 20-40 books....

[tender flax]

They did my boy Roboute dirty in the Siege of Terra books

[tall phoenix]

Sure thing

thats usually the best part with anthologies

equal amount of bad as good (mostly)

[runic root]

Thx

True. Tales of heresy was the definition of a mixed bag

[severe trail]

if they do I hope its shorter then War of the beast lol

[tender flax]

That was such a confused mess.

[safe plover]

i hope they fucking tell us what happened with ingo pech or valdor

[drowsy urchin]

they went out to get cigarettes

[tall phoenix]

who gives a fuck about ingo pech

lmao

[safe plover]

😡

look at miss big picture over here

no respect for the little guys that make her stories POP

[tall phoenix]

all he does is be a yapper

🗣️

[safe plover]

but the code words THE CODE WORDS HAD MEANING N SHIT

tbh tho after finishing hh I really dont get the hate for johnG he wasnt bad i enjoyed his bits the story

[drowsy urchin]

he's fine

[tall phoenix]

the takes keep piling up

[safe plover]

🚬

You know im just gonna end up making a new account and giving the same takes to bust you people

[tall phoenix]

Not on my watch

[simple cloud]

Ur spouting these good takes and most of them originate in Legion lmao

Also I read Starship Troopers when I was in middle school and now I’m listening to it and it’s so good.

[safe plover]

all my takes are very based and very correct

[tall phoenix]

[loud incorrect buzzer noise]

[wise yew]

If your takes are right then Abaddon works at the soup kitchen and works to provide the lonely class of the imperium with education and wellbeing

[safe plover]

i have zero takes about abaddon

[tacit trail]

I have to read black legion first

[safe plover]

clearly fake

[tacit trail]

Ive only read about him in the heresy

(hes pretty boring there)

[simple cloud]

Ya he gets better

[drowsy urchin]

Just finished Gaunt's Ghosts - Only in Death. What a book, probably my favourite of the series as of yet

[simple cloud]

Ahhhhh I gotta get back to the Ghosts

[drowsy urchin]

how far have you gotten

[wise yew]

So you gonna read ushoran the mortarch of clad?

[simple cloud]

Uh idk these were the latest

[drowsy urchin]

Oh you'll behaving Traitor General next, that and His Last Command are both fucking excellent

[drowsy urchin]

Maybe, either that or Requiem Infernal

[wise yew]

I see

[simple cloud]

Wait I did traitor general

So it’s his last command I guess

Traitor general was amazing

[tall phoenix]

too many books!!!

[simple cloud]

Best link for complete gaubts order inc all shorts??

[tall phoenix]

Uhhh I dunno

[simple cloud]

I love that the ghosts are also a bangin unit on tabletop

Great sculpts too

[shrewd silo]

just google reddit has the list

[simple cloud]

I know but they differ in completion and I was wondering re go to

[drowsy urchin]

Just go by the order they're released

[bright slate]

only in death is greatt

[drowsy urchin]

Oh what a great opportunity

Lots of others too, for ~5$

[wise yew]

Hope you enjoy

[balmy lodge]

Where's a good place to get started in learning 40k lore?

[shy lark]

Check out the pins, there's a guide in there

[reef nacelle]

As a whole? Youtube, tbh. 40k is VAST and some of it isn't actually that easy to access

But if you want to read some good books, theres a list in the pinned section, should cover the basics.

Some common recommendations:

Eisenhorn/Ravenor/Bequin novel series by Dan Abnett

Gaunt's Ghosts by Dan Abnett

Ciaphas Cain by Sandy Mitchell

Anything by Aaron Dembski- Boden

[storm kettle]

I FUCKING LOVE WARHAMMER AUDIBLE RAAAAGH

Infinite and the divine, Gaunts ghosts, Cain, and Gotrek and Felix all have great narrators

[simple cloud]

Eh

It’s not even that impressive they’re just British

Easy mode

(Not contesting it’s an S tier accent)

I face systemic oppression every day with my flat Midwestern drone

[severe trail]

Depends on what faction you want to dig into, if you want a bunch of baseline lore a factions 8e codex is good. If you want novels then it depends. The list in pins is pretty good

[reef nacelle]

This is a reminder that GW has cool shit like Imperial Knights and Assassins yet chooses to write more space marine books

[severe trail]

Assasinorum kingmaker sequel when

[reef nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-barney-inject-veins-alcohol-gif-18236081

[woven chasm]

Someone explain to me the Audible sale for HH going on

site too haggard, nothing shows on sale

except this specific thing

[runic root]

Bolter goes brrrrr.

ceramite supremacy

Ave Dominus nox 🦇

[reef nacelle]

Wiggles Kurze' decapitated head in your general direction

[runic root]

Jokes on you im into that shit

[woven chasm]

Any of these shorts from this collection make it worth picking up? https://www.audible.com/pd/Endless-War-Audiobook/B09M8Y6GDZ?eac_link=iUf7ZLSFHdoD&ref=web_search_eac_asin_1&eac_selected_type=asin&eac_selected=B09M8Y6GDZ&qid=N95FG4vSrH&eac_id=131-9370335-9951659_N95FG4vSrH&sr=1-1

[lean comet]

Has anyone read the Horusian wars books? I’m currently on the second one and I seem to find the retinue much more interesting than Covenant. I do like the explanation for inquisition secs, but oy vey the plot seems generic and relies on obvious twists. Maybe I need to reread.
what do you guys think?

[tall phoenix]

That is kinda the point yeah, Covenant is more of a "force" or "presence" in the book, the retinue are purposefully explored more compared to him since hes this daunting Puritan Inquisitor with a intimidating aura

the plot though nah its very generic, theres a reason while the series had good ideas it kinda got buried in later mid 2000's 40k media

[reef nacelle]

People joke about the Avatar of Khaine getting his ass kicked at every available opportunity. But nothing gets bodied as much as Space Marine Terminators.

Every novel I read, they're either background characters or used to setup some special troop/protagonist/antagonist. Loyalist and Chaos alike

[tall phoenix]

The problem is one is a demi-god of war

the other is just a elite troop choice

lol

[safe plover]

cant wait to be angry about this in 10 years when i finally make it to 40k

[tall phoenix]

You never will if I have anything to say about it.

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-office-dwight-schrute-sniper-gif-25130487

[safe plover]

i will bitch about greyfax and you cant stop me

[tall phoenix]

oh god dont remind me

"why is an Inquisitor being an Inquisitor" ahh question

bro CANNOT lore

[safe plover]

no

[tall phoenix]

yes

next question

[reef nacelle]

Well they're both getting the full Worf effect

[tall phoenix]

Thats just the rule of 40k

so you better get used to it

[wise yew]

I mean this guy doesn't read one of the most trustworthy sources of lore for 40k that being rule books

[tall phoenix]

He cant read.

He just pretends 😔

[safe plover]

my point was an inquisitor should have had a more tangible reaction to being on a ship crossing the webway with an imperial daemon, an eldar, and eldari god avatar and some 12k year old heretical <banned word> tech priest

[tall phoenix]

Desperate times call for desperate measures

you'd know this if you like

you know

actually read the passage

[safe plover]

no

[tall phoenix]

Thanks for proving my point.

[safe plover]

my warhammer podcasters said it was bad

[tall phoenix]

Now stop whinging.

[safe plover]

and when a warhammerpodcaster says something I LISTEN AND BELIEVE

[tall phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-yoda-how-embarassing-thats-so-embarrassing-embarassing-gif-17362984

[wise yew]

I genuinely think clad fits the mortarch of delusion title more than Ushoran

[tall phoenix]

We feed on his ambitions

(the ambition of SKILL ISSUE)

[safe plover]

wait holy shit im cured

THE TAG IS GONE

THANK GOD

[tall phoenix]

its still there

Not only is bro illiterate hes also seeing things.

This is getting tragic

[safe plover]

its gone for me

[tall phoenix]

[celest heron]

Also radical inquisitors in general be wilding

Shout out to calcazar for trying to use a ctan shard because an ordo xenos apparently doesnt know why thats a bad idea.

Also ordo xenos working with drukhari to steal suns

[hybrid turtle]

woah spoilers

[safe plover]

🚬 welcome to books were people are allergic to spoilers

hey theres a cool older warhammer book i wanna read

oh you mean the one where "the literal big reveal at the end" happens?

[tall phoenix]

oh no wow we revealed the lame plot twist you'd spend 10 weeks ranting about

[celest heron]

Idk why but I played rt blind and the second I saw calcazar I thought "this mf is sussy af"

Chapter 3 really made it obvious

[tall phoenix]

Yeah its always obvious tbh

idk why people act like him being a suslord is a spoiler

lmao

[celest heron]

I was more shocked by the argenta thing tbh

[tall phoenix]

THAT is a much better twist

[celest heron]

Not that they do anything with it

[tall phoenix]

[celest heron]

||true ending is the genestealer ending btw no cap||

[wide mica]

Ushoran book is so peak, the choice of POV characters is great, Ushoran despite being a horrific monster being the perfect embodiment of nobility and what it means to lead and protect his people, while his foil is a guy who seems like the ideal King but is actually a horrible and selfish tyrant.

[simple cloud]

Tf is the imperium always working with these degenerates

[severe trail]

Because

It’s easy

[simple cloud]

Isn’t “the real monster isn’t the actual monster but the handsome upstanding-seeming guy” kinda played out tho

[wise yew]

Just listening to the audio book it is f****** amazing

[simple cloud]

Look our suffering is for The Throne ok

He asks it of us and it is a light burden ok

It’s not in any way sadism or masochism like with the filthy xenos ok

It’s holy and theirs is profane ok

Couldn’t be less similar

[severe trail]

No like it’s easy to contact them compared to other xenos lol

And negotiate

Now granted what they want is usually horrifying

But the inqusition is more then willing to pay often

[wide mica]

No because the monster is also still a monster

[safe plover]

i just realized

one character saying random fucking words in non standard english

dan abnett being the writer of this game 😭

[simple cloud]

Seems like normal English to me wat

[celest heron]

Wheres my hot bodyglove people dan

[safe plover]

🙄

pick a word

[celest heron]

Even where there is wealth people still shit their pants

[tall phoenix]

Whinge whinge whinge

shut up

🗣️

[safe plover]

ok morrow

[tall phoenix]

Comparing me to the legend himself is too much

know your place bookworm

[safe plover]

bookworm

pot kettle

[tall phoenix]

I havent read a single 40k book in a month

get better material!

🗣️

[safe plover]

what did you read then?

[tall phoenix]

Nothing, i got work

lmao

[safe plover]

🤔 why did you specify 40k then

[tall phoenix]

Because its the only material I read

[safe plover]

saying i havent read a single book in a month is easier

i dont believe u

ur ashamed of what you read

[tall phoenix]

[runic root]

False. She is ashamed of reading you 😘

[safe plover]

if someone says scholam is standard english

i will recite the entirety of decent of the angels from memory

[severe fiber]

Scholam is standard English

[safe plover]

😡

[simple cloud]

C’est vrai

[severe fiber]

French is standard English

[drowsy urchin]

Me when I discover literary

[finite frigate]

dont let them gaslight you @safe plover ordure is a rare ass word

[runic root]

*Very upset German noises #neverforgiveversailles 😤

[safe plover]

i am ungaslightable

[drowsy urchin]

It's not about rare words but getting upset about the usage of rare words

[severe fiber]

German is NOT standard English

[safe plover]

😡 they should only be used in palces where the meaning could be guessed with context

unironically fallout 4 did a better job with curie's french

[finite frigate]

using random archaic or latin words seems part of warhammer's aesthetic or whatever

[safe plover]

its mostly dan abnett's style otherwirse theres a set of words that they use frequently

[drowsy urchin]

"Oh no I had to look up something I didn't understand and learned something new, such dire existence"

[safe plover]

oubliette, tertiary etc

[safe plover]

i listen to books and play video games to not learn things

[drowsy urchin]

Weak

[safe plover]

🙄 i have finals next week

[drowsy urchin]

Get learning then

[safe plover]

DOWN HERE

DOWN HERE ITS MY TIME

ITS MY TIME DOWN HERE

[runic root]

It used to be that way. 8-11th century the languages were nearly identical. Then, the vikings came and messed things up a little bit until the normans came and RUINED EVERYTHING, like the french usually do

[runic root]

Good luck

[loud stag]

Just randomly got to the "I heard you do weird things to your legion" part of Scars, what an incredible book haha

[tall phoenix]

[simple cloud]

These aren’t particularly rare words wtf

[finite frigate]

oubliette is definitely a rare word

[tall phoenix]

We hitting the word counts with this one

[finite frigate]

mainly because it's such a specific thing

[tall phoenix]

🗣️

[mellow knot]

Oubliette is one of those words that’s lovely to say.

[safe plover]

can you honostly tell me that if it wasnt for warhammer you would know the word and use it?

[safe plover]

ikr i love it

[tall phoenix]

Its up there with buboe and buoy for me

[wise yew]

i love it when swagger says it

[mellow knot]

I am also a fan of the word ‘susurration’

[tall phoenix]

Oh god i saw Abnett use that a lot

i think it was for a chainsword description

[wise yew]

Bubebolos being Tamurkhans toad dragon's name is peak

[safe plover]

gorget is straight up used more

[tall phoenix]

Because an oubliette is a very specific form of prison

as ever, stop whinging

🗣️

shut up!

[safe plover]

no

[tall phoenix]

yes

keep it shut

[wise yew]

You know convincing him is the equivalent of trying to convince abaddon to give someone who is starving untainted soup right?

[drowsy urchin]

Imagine being upset about learning new words

[tall phoenix]

Bro cannot read

[safe plover]

a magnitude less

[tall phoenix]

Statistics dont mean anything

bro CANNOT stop yapping!

[safe plover]

yess yess

keep going

[drowsy urchin]

Clad only read reddit before 40k books so he knows like 15 words

[safe plover]

clad derangement syndrome is taking effect

[tall phoenix]

what derangement

[wise yew]

i mean what she is saying is true because you cannot shut up

[tall phoenix]

im having soup

you are like on my 3rd or 4th list of priorities

[safe plover]

soon you'll all be forced to take more and more ludicrous positions just to disagree with me

[safe plover]

do u eat soup for every meal?

respect soup goes hard

[tall phoenix]

Yeah I inject soup into my veins.

[safe plover]

lentil soup?

[wise yew]

that explains why you are so cranky

no blood in there just pure cow broth

[safe plover]

without the soup she would have banned everyone on the discord

[mellow knot]

Enquiring minds demand to know what manner of soup.

[drowsy urchin]

if it's tomato soup all your prior sins will be forgiven

[tall phoenix]

Yoğurt soup

[safe plover]

what

[tall phoenix]

other cultures eat different food

you dumb fuck

[wise yew]

does it have rice?

[safe plover]

is it like sahlab?

[reef nacelle]

What makes it soup and not just yogurt? 🤔

[tall phoenix]

Depends, some do some dont

[safe plover]

also

[tall phoenix]

ingridients, fully liquid among other things

its like asking "how is it tomato soup and not just tomatoes"

[wise yew]

i'm asking if the one your eating has rice

[safe plover]

every single dish has this on its wiki page "specially in the cuisines of the former Byzantines and Ottoman, notably in the Levant"

we have the same culture dawg

[tall phoenix]

Yeah but i dont care

food is food

[reef nacelle]

Most yogurts are already liquid though

Takes it a bit more to turn tomatoes into a liquid

Not hating, just curious

[drowsy urchin]

is it warm

soup needs to be warm/hot

[safe plover]

not true

[reef nacelle]

The spanish might disagree

[safe plover]

https://img-global.cpcdn.com/recipes/c9501db91b831cdc/1360x1928cq90/gyumolcsos-kremleves-recept-foto.webp

hungarian fruitsoup

[drowsy urchin]

that's like kisel or kissel

[safe plover]

thats jello this is soup

[tall phoenix]

I mean no, most are like a sludge

[safe plover]

DUDE do not compare yoghurt to sludge

what the fuck

[tall phoenix]

its the closest equilavent matter-wise

stop whining

🗣️

[safe plover]

😡

[tall phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/yogurt-spin-yogurt-spin-gif-1738554332597901827

[safe plover]

im sure thats a crime in turkey

[reef nacelle]

That's.... One way to describe yogurt I guess

[tall phoenix]

IT LITERALLY IS

What the fuck am I suppose to describe it as, slimey???

lmao

[wise yew]

watery

[reef nacelle]

Cow titty sludge

[tall phoenix]

IT ISNT TOHUGH

[safe plover]

"noun
Semisolid material such as the type precipitated by sewage treatment.
Mud, mire, or ooze covering the ground or forming a deposit, as on a riverbed.
Finely broken or half-formed ice on a body of water, especially the sea."

NO

STOP

[wise yew]

i'm just messing with you

[drowsy urchin]

Fermented shlop

[wise yew]

i'm just a psychopath that drinks yogurt

[tall phoenix]

haha owned

[tall phoenix]

thats Ayran

https://tenor.com/view/ayran-aga-flag-roblox-drink-gif-16425217

[drowsy urchin]

yogurt can be drinkable as well, it's not as watery as ayran

[tall phoenix]

Yeah ayran has a thickness to it since its more cold savory

also salt

[safe plover]

and sour

[drowsy urchin]

anyways, the best thing to come out of Turkey is the Turkish Yogurt

based hairy man

this or greek yogurt

[safe plover]

i like greek yogurts more because they tend to be more sour which i like more

[drowsy urchin]

greek yogurt mixed with honey and blueberries

[safe plover]

noooo

olive oil IF anything

[drowsy urchin]

what the fuck

okay mister shit-your-pants

[safe plover]

🙄

olive oil doesnt make you shit your pants what the fuck

[reef nacelle]

Depends how much you drink

[safe plover]

what do you think hummus is made with? what do you think its covered with?

i swear white people would rather cook with with industrial lubricants than olive oil

"m-muh smoke point"
steel has a smoke point of like 3000c doent mean im gonna eat it

[drowsy urchin]

I use olive oil to almost everything I cook, mixing it into yogurt just seems like a bad idea

[safe plover]

its yummy

[finite frigate]

didn't white people probably fucking invent it

[safe plover]

drizzle a little bit on some

[safe plover]

the british also started wars over spices look at them now

[finite frigate]

[safe plover]

also the first olive presses were in the middle east

[reef nacelle]

We are keeping the spices in a safe place (away from the food)

[safe plover]

dry up some paprika and grind it into powder NOW

[reef nacelle]

Sure, I'll just run down the road and find some in our wonderful climate

[safe plover]

thank u

[quaint canopy]

Sometimes I almost laugh at Clad's takes.

They're similar to atrocities where your brain cannot comprehend the full horror, just gives up, and you come out with that awkward laugh to comment on the situation.

[tall phoenix]

LMAO

[shy lark]

Clad is the closest thing I have ever seen to Nietzsches übermensch 🫡

[safe plover]

CDS

[simple cloud]

…. Yes.

All of the words you mentioned.

[safe plover]

I dont believe you

are you french?

[simple cloud]

I like books.

Esp pre 1900

[safe plover]

and someone who likes pre 1900s books is representitive of the average person

[simple cloud]

Yes

[safe plover]

this dude has a slumdog millionaire esq story for every word hes known and is trying to tell me thats normal

[simple cloud]

The Bible is a pre 1900 book

[safe plover]

i said books

not book

get rekt

[simple cloud]

It’s many books 🙄

Book of Job etc etc get rekt

[safe plover]

🙄

actually

theyre scrolls/letters

none of them meet the technical definition of book

[simple cloud]

My kindle files are still books

[safe plover]

i am going to superglue the charging port of your kindle

[simple cloud]

😡

You’ll do 10 years in the oubliette for that

[safe plover]

i already have 10 years in magistrati oubliette

[cerulean peak]

Clad truly is the take giver we deserve tbh

[simple cloud]

I love this discord lmao

[tall phoenix]

Clad's mundane reign of terror will end one day

[simple cloud]

Nooo may it be… dare I say…

[safe plover]

not until i destroy all the sanity in your minds

[cerulean peak]

He balances this chat

[simple cloud]

Eternal

[safe plover]

even in death ill still serve o7

[tall phoenix]

yeah from the bottom of a lake with some concrete shoes maybe

[safe plover]

concrete shoes are a waste i cant swim

[tall phoenix]

yeah but i gotta be sure

not taking chances with your takes

[cerulean peak]

Drain his lungs of air beforehand

[safe plover]

you can not kill me in a way that matters

someone else will take my place

and my takes will live on

maybe using some abaddon methods would work try stapling someone whos takes i really hate to my back

[tall phoenix]

not happening

[safe plover]

seriously sewing a blank to a grey knight was horrible and amazing

[simple cloud]

Perpetual motion machine

[simple cloud]

Human blankipede

[quaint canopy]

Damn, the crime audio books are pretty pricey.

[tall phoenix]

Audiobooks in general are unfortunately

[reef nacelle]

The key is audible sales

Or in general tbh

[runic root]

Bold of you to assume that their still is any left to destroy

[severe fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/have-you-ever-condidered-piracy-gif-10055735

[quaint canopy]

How could I refuse such a handsome man? 😂

[celest heron]

As you wish

[wintry blade]

Is the grotsnik book out yet? I’m dying for ork content

Even though it’s gonna be a pointless mguffin quest

[tall phoenix]

https://www.blacklibrary.com/prod-home/new

Nope still not out.

[simple cloud]

How can u be thinking about some ork when we have THE END OF THE SIEGE OF TERRA THE END AND THE DEATH PART III: PART I: THE DEATH OF THE END

Anthology coming

[tender flax]

If I see one more siege of terra book I will riot

[severe trail]

But is it the end and the death

[celest heron]

They should have a whole book of horus' soul traveling through time and space

[severe trail]

I hope you get stabbed by Samus

(In tacticus)

[celest heron]

To eventually posess a dude in ancient egypt who wrote the og prophecy

[tender flax]

For me

The fact that the siege of terra series, which itself was the closing chapter of the Horus Heresy, had a finale Trilogy, is utterly hilarious and perfectly presents the bloat of the material.

[severe trail]

Also it still felt rushed

Lol

[celest heron]

Its like movies nowadays

Meandering

[tender flax]

Yeah thats the really hilarious part

[severe trail]

Abnett’s fault

Unironically

[celest heron]

And somehow still not enough time to develop the plot

[severe trail]

Kyme did a terrible job

As an editor

For telling Abnett to write as much as he wanted

💀

[tender flax]

I bet GW meddling didnt help either

[severe trail]

I mean

What meddling

As far as we know it was literally just Abnett and Kyme

From both Kyme and Abnett

[tender flax]

"Add a part that mentions this new unit we are releasing"

[severe trail]

If Kyme had done his job end and the death prolly would have been much less

Chaotic

[severe trail]

They literally don’t have that

In that book

[tender flax]

Feels like that a lot of times tho

[severe trail]

Unless you count Samus, but Samus was already a mini

[celest heron]

Which one, 1 2 or 3

[severe trail]

Lol

[severe trail]

That’s just a case of them wanting you to point and soyjack because character mentioned

[tender flax]

Yeah

[severe trail]

Rather then product placement

[celest heron]

Oh my god the worlds oldest man ollanius pious showed up

[severe trail]

It’s like Desolaters showing up in the new Exorcists book, they mention the name and that’s it

[severe trail]

Rather then like

The dark imperium

[tender flax]

Thats the intention at least. Some soyjack with glasses cooming over the mention of some BADARSE in a youtube short or lore tiktok

[severe trail]

The PRIMARIS INCEPTORS WITH THEIR BOLT STORM WHATEVER

DESCEND WITH THEIR PRIMARIS JUMPPACKS

Okay I’m done

Dark imperium is probably the least ass edition start product placement book GW has made

[celest heron]

Wow thank got I had krieg calvalry with explosive lance supporting me

[tender flax]

Heh yeah that was so jarring.
Having to be told 4 times how great the Primaris vehicles are

[severe trail]

Which isn’t saying a lot

Lol

Because holy fuck

Leviathan, the 7e and 6e one and the 9e one

Are all so fucking awful

And the 7e book was free

💀

[celest heron]

So when is the saturnine praetor book coming out

[tender flax]

But you gotta admit, that is GW meddling/product placement

[celest heron]

Since he is primarch tier

[severe trail]

ASPIRING CHAOS CHAMPION KRULE THE

okay sorry

Like holy fuck lol

[severe trail]

For dark imperium yeah def

[tender flax]

Its really obvious when it happens too

[severe trail]

For end and the death I don’t think so

The worst part is

GW can do subtle product placement

It’s just that sometimes the books just

don’t

[tender flax]

Well, only for lack of relevant models to peddle

[severe trail]

And then you get shit like that

[celest heron]

Cant think of any in the grey knights omnibus

[severe trail]

Well, point and soyjack is a classic comic thing imo

[celest heron]

Other than them glazing the weapons

[severe trail]

They mention grey knight paladins and such by name, and nemesis force weapons

Which is like

Product placement

But it’s natural lol

[celest heron]

But is normal

[severe trail]

Yes

That’s my point

They can be normal about it

[celest heron]

And only in the first book

[severe trail]

But they also can be super ass about it

[celest heron]

There were 2 more

[severe trail]

There’s purifier stuff

In like the 2nd one iirc

[celest heron]

Third had no product placement

[severe trail]

It’s been years since I’ve read it

[tender flax]

Sometimes entire books are just product placement vehicles, like the Lion book holy shit that was a doozey.

[severe trail]

So my memory is fuzzy

[celest heron]

Since dude is just vibing as a post'human on a khorne world

[severe trail]

Me when the fallen dude is an exact 1 to 1 of the heresy power armor praetor

What did GW mean by this

[tender flax]

[severe trail]

That is like genuinely

[celest heron]

I want souldrinker minis

[severe trail]

The most blatant fucking product placement

I’ve seen in ages lol

Like

It’s worse then leviathan

[tender flax]

"I should buy tbe fallen range"

[severe trail]

Which is saying a lot

[tender flax]

Yeah it was shameless

[severe trail]

Because leviathan was pretty bad

With its product placement

THE NEUROTYRANT AND ITS NEUROGAUNTS SWARM THE TERMINATOR AND GRAVIS APOTHICARY BIOLOGIS

Okay I’m done sorry

[tender flax]

The problem is that the Lion returning is something that sells itself, but somehow GW managed to create the blandest fucking book in years.

Also Lion came back like a wet fart you've held in for too long, almost accidentally, compare that to the impact of Roboutes return holy shit lmao.

[severe trail]

Mike brooks

Moment

Bro cannot write compelling characters or large scale setting stuff

[tender flax]

The Lion post return is like some bug you find after turning over a rock. You get briefly startled, disgusted, then watch the bugger scuttle off again.

[severe trail]

I will slander him for sons of the forest

Lol

Because that book

Was genuinely ass

Aside from the fight scenes except he’s good at them

So whatever

The only book he’s written with what I find to be a compelling version of the character is the Leilith book

But that’s because Leilith had like 0 personality before the book

[tender flax]

Never read it

[severe trail]

So having like 10% personality is much better

[severe trail]

It’s fine, it’s usual drukhari stuff

[tender flax]

In my experience 99% of xenos povs are absolute trash

[severe trail]

Also brings up the whole “Shalaxi was probably lying” hook

[severe trail]

Read elemental council, it’s really good

Valedor is also like, the only good craftworld eldar book

If you want an actual book

And not someone’s worldbuilding document hidden as a book

Gav you fucking hack

[tender flax]

The only author I still appreciate is Chris Wraight, and only some of his stuff

[celest heron]

Nah, let dan seep in more all of the rejects will now be using bodygloves

[tender flax]

Oh yeah Bodygloves

[celest heron]

[tender flax]

Need more of those

[celest heron]

Still not sure why the guard dont wear them under their flak

[tender flax]

Who says they dont

[paper maple]

Lmao

too close to home

[celest heron]

The fact that I never see a guard wearing one

[tender flax]

You wouldn't see it beneath the flak and fatigues

[celest heron]

Bodyglove covers the head

I thought

[tall phoenix]

Not a bodyglove but

[celest heron]

Are hardened bodygloves expensive or smthn?

[severe fiber]

Shin armor

No kneepads or elbowpads

[tall phoenix]

For expendable troops ye

[tall phoenix]

[tender flax]

Not necessarily.

Its like a wetsuit.

There are different types

[celest heron]

Yeah was talking mostly about hardened bodygloves

Like the callidus ones

[tall phoenix]

Those are special ops gear yeah

you cant just give them to mooks

[celest heron]

So would say scions wear it under carapace?

Or is carapace too tight

[tall phoenix]

We dont really know, they do wear some sort of "cloth" under their armor

[oak pollen]

it really is just an old military blouse huh

[grim gate]

What are some other good Warhammer Crime novels, i already got Bloodlines ready for the road trip but need another for the return home

[tender flax]

Thats it

[severe trail]

Flesh and steel

Vorbis conspiracy

Literally all the books from warhammer crime are good imo

[forest spruce]

The leagues being lured into an obvious trap by greed just makes me sigh

Like if the motherload sounds too good to be true it's a trap

[drowsy urchin]

Excuse me, the Lion book is stellar

[tender flax]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-osu-greece-greek-cat-osu-cat-greek-gif-2694212203346871017

In context of 40slop, sort of?

[drowsy urchin]

just in general

or in general 40k

/ warhammer

[tender flax]

It was such a sloppy vanity project for the Lion.

His one chance, one opportunity to make an entrance

[drowsy urchin]

It's a pretty common opinion of it, you just happened to be speaking to the biggest Brooks hater on the server to validate your opinions

[tender flax]

And its confused old man walking off into the forest

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-rain-forest-walking-away-gif-3676928776372302414

[drowsy urchin]

and it's GREAT

[tender flax]

I mean, if thats what you wanted

[drowsy urchin]

it doesn't just give us an interesting primarch character it also makes the Dark Angels interesting for the first time since their inception

[tender flax]

At the cost of the Lion looking like a grandpa

[drowsy urchin]

Old man Lion is the best lion

[sonic walrus]

The lion needs to get the band back together, and he doesn't even have a ship to do it with. Let'em cook.

[tall phoenix]

Tbh the authors cant also really decide this stuff

GW usually interjects in these things as well if they plan to milk it out or do it in a future material,

I feel like people forget this a lot

[runic root]

I want them to bring the destroyers back. Time to drown the tyrannids in radiation and Phosphex

[tall phoenix]

watch em adapt to it

just like how they did with virus bombs

[runic root]

But can you really adapt to Phosphex? I thought that thing even burned in the vacuum of space and not even auramite could resist it

[tall phoenix]

Considering Tyranids can basically make any bio-weapon they want id say so.

They can make a similiar weapon and just go to town with it

[runic root]

Hmmm. So less resistance, more like Copy and Pasta retaliation...

[wise yew]

you're asking of a race of aliens that evolve a creature that allow themselves through gravity make their fleets travel FTL by catapulting themselves

adapt to that?

yes, yes they would

[runic root]

This makes me wonder, which space marine legion at full strength pre heresy would be best suited to fight the tyrannids? I Imagine night lords would be the most useless since psychological terror doesnt really work on them

[runic root]

Probably. Still want the destroyers back. If not super effective against tyrannids, theyd definetly be lethal against anything else

[tacit trail]

Read most of the horus heresy, should I now move to siege of terra and finish it or read some modern setting books?

[wide mica]

Finished Ushoran, it’s good and I really enjoyed it but not a huge fan of the authors style

[wise yew]

yeah it's pretty good

[celest heron]

What I dont get is why dont they just use that offensively

Catapulting a giant nid into a planet will still let nids eat biomass right?

Since they eat rocks and shit

[wise yew]

nah those do yield biomass but what they really want is the good stuff

Plant life animals

stuff like that

and you know doing that kind of kills those things

[celest heron]

Fair

[runic root]

Go the clad route and audio book the entire horus heresy including the siege of Terra EXCEPT LEGION

Then come back and annoy 80 percent of the people in here with your takes

[tacit trail]

I wish I could unread Legion

[runic root]

[runic root]

Dilara be like:

[runic root]

Florida man, huh...

Have you ever annoyed a cottonmouth with a stick or wrestled an Alligator?

[tacit trail]

Ive done the former

[runic root]

Legend.

Just like fishing garret

[wide mica]

Don't really like the way the author basicaly wrote around the story, rather than just telling it. First time reading his work so I don't know if that's typical of him but feel like it was a great story with some great setup, but it could have been written much better.

[tall phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/ramming-battlefleet-gothic-armada-warhammer40k-imperial-navy-attack-gif-16533820

[wide mica]

Lots of unnecessary repetition, like take a shot everytime he mentioned the "Gheist Moon" and his prose was overly formal and used the full name of everything every time it was mentioned to the point where it just felt unnatural. Like every mention of the Stormcast Eternals used the full name "Stormcast Eternal" rather than just Stormcast or some other simpler nickname, if a character had a title, epithet or nickname it would be used in full basically every single time the character was mentioned, even if mentioned multiple times in the same sentence.

Still enjoyed it though

Got to the point where I was expecting a ™️ after every mention of the Stormcast Eternals™️

[empty vortex]

Does anyone have any good websites to read WH40k books for free?

[runic root]

Just read the recent blogpost on the arbites. Matt - i jerk off to Cato SICCARIUS - wardt is still allowed an opinion?

[reef nacelle]

He's been writing for the game for a while iirc

[runic root]

Youre in the wrong chat for that. The people in here dont critizse GW/BL too much and tend to not be big on piracy....

[runic root]

Huh ... Well, as long as we arent touching any ultra marines with him

[wide mica]

Pretty sure it's also against the rules to ask for/share/promote pirate stuff

Plus like we got authors here, stealing their work isn't cool

[safe plover]

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-do-that-here-black-panther-tchalla-bruce-gif-16558003

[empty vortex]

oh dear oh dear, agains piracy eh

[runic root]

Not me personally (idgaf what you do as long as you dont do it to me) but the rules in here are offical and stand. No piracy. You want a legitimate product, you need to pay a legitimate price for it. You cant/dont want to ? Tooo fucking bad

@safe plover my favorite combative shark, are you up for some oggy auric damnation?

[safe plover]

no im eepy

ive been playing deathloop since its free on epic

[reef nacelle]

Digital is a pretty cheap way into the lore though. E books/audiobooks

[safe plover]

you should give it a try

[runic root]

All good. Sleep well and prepare for those Finals

[tall phoenix]

Hes been writing for GW for over 15 years so yes.