40k-book-club

[kindred yacht]

If I do read warhammer im probably gonna start with astra militarum

[safe plover]

afterwards they range

start and tell us about ur hot takes

[kindred yacht]

I’m not gonna lie I think space marines are so mid

[safe plover]

a lot of them are very one dimensional

[kindred yacht]

It just big space man? And they’re unrelentingly cruel and If I had to pick a favorite it would be salamanders

I like how they’re the only ones who understand compassion is the greatest thing humanity has especially against the warp

But then you have evil ass creatures like a Konrad curze

I think that’s his name? I forgot it was the one primarch who tortured the pilot of a ship

[kindred yacht]

But I love catachan and the regular humans of 40k

And inquisitors

Some of them

People like Cain and yarrick are my favorite

[royal egret]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-gif-21327280

It’s a common opinion, largely it just depends on the writers, and 40k has a lot of meh books.

[tall phoenix]

You dropped this king

🎖️

[kindred yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/glorpflex-glorp-flex-flexing-cat-gif-237031439715906425

[tall phoenix]

🫡

[severe trail]

https://tenor.com/view/alien-glorp-desk-slam-cat-green-man-gif-16808037113840525469

[deft bramble]

never liked marines even when i was just a 8yo dipshit ruining my eyes trying to read small texts in descriptions of units in Dawn of War

the game had really bad font scaling...

[drowsy urchin]

Born with bad eyesight 🫵

[deft bramble]

nah, im 100% sure its because of me sitting point blank to my old shitty monitor

squinting eyes

[tall phoenix]

Dawn of War 1 in low resolution is some PTSD inducing shit

the Winter Assault trauma is coming back...

[lofty thunder]

(He glazed salamanders 2 lines later)

[kindred yacht]

Nay

Key phrase “if I had”

I still don’t like them

[severe trail]

Cowardice

lobotomize more refugees

Cruelmaxxing atrocity pilled Imperium is the best type of Imperium

[wise yew]

Do not let this man know about the anti riot squads

[severe trail]

I LOVE BURING CIVLLIANS ALIVE RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

I HATE IGNEANS

IT GIVES ME JOY IMAGINING THEY ARE IGNEANS

[wise yew]

IGNEANS SHOULD JUST VAPORIZE THEMSELVES

[severe trail]

God

The only good thing to come out of those books

is the fact that a large portion of salamanders are canonically racist

[wise yew]

Yeah i would rank them on competitive racism with the warhammer fantasy dwarves

[shy lark]

The IG should have more warcrimes per book

[royal egret]

Imagine only liking the “good guy” characters 40k

That’s like reading Harry Potter for the Dudley’s and Filch

[wise yew]

Besides like warhammer fantasy and age of sigmar u ain't finding a character with a clean conscience in 40k

[royal egret]

There’s not really anyone in those either

Not really

[severe trail]

I like tree hitler

in WHFB

[wise yew]

Well yeah but like you know compared to 40k you have better chances of finding actual really good good people in those settings than 40k

[royal egret]

In general I think there’s plenty of good enough people in all three, the point is more on a macro scale there’s no one that’s really good

There’s much better people and much worse

Ok a macro scale no faction is good

On an individual level there’s a lot more but it’s not really the point of the settings

[wise yew]

That's the thing in warhammer even the warrior kings warriors of lightning aren't the cleanest

[royal egret]

Yeah its a fucked up universe

[wise yew]

Yeah at best like from a standpoint like the storm cast are literally the kindest people you probably find out of the three warhammer verses

But even then there are still some

Rather questionable people in their group

[royal egret]

They literally lose their emotions and become empty husks or are just bad or jaded people

Turns out bad people can die heroically too

Fuck there was this great short story series for Fantasy which kinda followed that

[wise yew]

I mean hey better than falling to chaos

[royal egret]

These knights who were all pretty scummy but still did their jobs

[severe trail]

yeah the thing for stormcast is you don't ahve to be morally good lol

[royal egret]

Tough for the Azyr PR department though

[severe trail]

you need to die heroically fighting or resisting Chaos

thats it lol

Like thats really broad

lol

[wise yew]

Look you might be an alcoholic that kind of beat your kids but hey at least you sacrifice your life for them so hey you're now a warrior anyway suffer

[royal egret]

Yeah there’s one who was just a mom who died trying to club a chaos warrior with a pan to save her kids

And then you got like, warcrime McGee dudes who were scum but they still were willing to die fighting chaos

I forget the specific group

[wise yew]

Yeah but when it comes to kindest though stormcast characters are some of the most bloody saints in the settings

[royal egret]

There’s one that’s been really bad about that kinda thing in some city

[wise yew]

They understand the price they are paying when becoming the warrior of the storm king and you know they may as well help out the weaklings

[royal egret]

I’m bad with AoS names and shit, I barely know the 40k ones

[wise yew]

They don't have lightning coursing through their very body after all

[wise yew]

Are you talking about that city where crimes and stuff are in common but

The stormcast don't interfere as long as they mind their own business

And help out with chaos business

[royal egret]

I just remember they had something where the leader was

Overly focusing on a personal vendetta

And let something fester which became an issue

Idk, I’ll look it up later

[wise yew]

Welp at least sigmar mostly keeps the storm cast in check

[severe trail]

yeah

The stormcast leader is trying to settle their grudges from life

which is

[wise yew]

Marines on the other hand, pray to god that the one that will support you is willingly to value your life at least as an asset

[wise yew]

Did they even die to chaos or what

[royal egret]

The issue with Stormcast more is there’s not enough and most places won’t get any

[tall phoenix]

While the point of warhammer is usually comically/serious dark tone stories and stuff i still agree with this yeah, 40k kinda has to do "good guys" for protagonists because nobody wants to read about nazi-tier imperials doing atrocities

unless its some shit like Night Lords

where "well they were always evil"

[wise yew]

I am an equal human skinner

[royal egret]

Its just an individual vs large level thing, individuals can be good people in a bad system working with what they have

[wise yew]

I equally skin everyone

[royal egret]

Cain does some fucked up stuff tbh and says some

[tall phoenix]

I mean

thats kinda eh

Cain is also just a meme

even in the books

[royal egret]

He’s well written enough, I think the books main issue isn’t his character or writing

[tall phoenix]

Its still pretty much just:

[royal egret]

It’s just the plots being recycled

[tall phoenix]

"We cant have our protags be complete monsters"

only few authors do that and im glad they do lol

[royal egret]

Well yeah but that goes for even chaos books

[tall phoenix]

Ehhh nah.

[royal egret]

There’s always some level of humanizing

Yes

[tall phoenix]

Nah.

Humanizing yes.

Making them complete heroic figures, no.

[royal egret]

Bile’s books are loved because they do that bits of humanizing

[tall phoenix]

You gotta humanize a character either way, its a novel

[royal egret]

I didn’t say heroic figures

I said not monsters

[tall phoenix]

Thats the point im making so.

[severe trail]

Yeah he died

to chaos lol

[royal egret]

Well you didn’t say that

[tall phoenix]

I literally did

the "complete monsters" bit was kinda clear

im talking about Imperium centric books lol

not chaos either

[royal egret]

Complete monsters == only other choice is heroic

Those aren’t the two choices

[tall phoenix]

Okay semantics i guess

anyway

[royal egret]

And generally the better books know how to find the middle ground

[tall phoenix]

Ehhh

theres nothing wrong with making awful characters

they just cant usually take a center stage

because people dont want that

its not that complex

[royal egret]

You can write bad people or more morally grey people well

[paper maple]

I was gonna say yeah theres a clear preference for that kind of thing.

[tall phoenix]

Pretty much.

Otherwise again you alienate your readers

[wise yew]

Ork, Tyranids, and night lords fans in the back

[royal egret]

People love to watch stuff with monsters tbh

It just has to be written well

[tall phoenix]

Real

[tall phoenix]

Its also a case of not wanting to show the Imperium as too "bad" since you still want your readers to root for them in some essence.

[paper maple]

Gotta sell those minis so I get it lol

[tall phoenix]

Yeah

its also on the same vein as like uhhh

the book making a big deal of "oh we gotta save this planet"

then not talking about, you know

[royal egret]

ADB I think kinda does the lazy choice for doing this where he just makes his CSM all mopey about being evil

[severe trail]

I wish we got to see evil imperium more in books

[tall phoenix]

the entire population is gonna go straight back to slavery once our heroes win

[severe trail]

lol

[paper maple]

LMAO

[tall phoenix]

Well we do.

[severe trail]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-insect-glaive-kinsect-mh-wilds-whatever-go-my-scarab-gif-13714675391602271338

[tall phoenix]

It just never gets focused on

unless its some total wank novel

[severe trail]

well I want a focus on it is what I mean lol

[tall phoenix]

Yeah that does happen but uh again its definitely more here and there lol

theres a reason for example you'd never get a book telling of someones life in an Imperial concentration camp

[paper maple]

Excuse me

the word is "penal camp"

[tall phoenix]

shit whoops

[severe trail]

"reeducation camp"

[tall phoenix]

[paper maple]

thats Tau

smh

[severe trail]

my bad

[royal egret]

There is multiple books which take place on penal worlds or show them in big focus though

[paper maple]

Id make a social credits joke but low hanging fruit

[wise yew]

You mean the gas chamber?

[paper maple]

You said it not me

[tall phoenix]

Yeah I know, its never at the forefront

or people even talk about it

[royal egret]

It is for the books I’m thinking

[tall phoenix]

Which are?

[royal egret]

Last Chancers

[tall phoenix]

God

i was literally gonna say lol

those dont really count because they dont really make them seem as that

its literally generic sci-fi prison shit

[severe trail]

Last chancers proving gav thrope can in fact write

[paper maple]

I forget he even wrote those ngl

[tall phoenix]

Last Chancers get that treatment a lot

for better or worse lol

[paper maple]

I like the books

kinda

[royal egret]

It’s a series which never gets brought up for whatever reason

[tall phoenix]

Its old

[paper maple]

^

[tall phoenix]

And nobody really cares about it

unless uh

[royal egret]

There’s plenty of old seires which get brought up

[tall phoenix]

you count that "recent" armageddon book

[tall phoenix]

And tons that dont

so again

[paper maple]

Its also just not that grand

or too interesting compared to most other famous novels

[severe trail]

The recent armagedon book is neat

tbh

I enjoyed it

[tall phoenix]

I liked that one but like

[royal egret]

I don’t think it lacks interesting facets

[tall phoenix]

it legit took me off because i looked at the cover and assumed it was some random I.G book

[royal egret]

If anything it’s a little too interesting

[paper maple]

For most people it very much does

this fandom isnt really interesting in stuff that isnt like

well

[tall phoenix]

primarchs?

lol

[paper maple]

Yeah lol

[royal egret]

Most people haven’t even heard of it or read any of those old books

Besides maybe Eisenhorn

[tall phoenix]

I doubt it would still pick up traction.

Compared to, you know

Eisenhorn.

which is like a coughing baby / atom bomb situation comparison wise

[paper maple]

Yeah theres a reason a lot of older 40k books remain forgotten for various reasons, interesting dilemmas and plots being one of them

[tall phoenix]

Ye for example I think William King's Farseer is an amazing book

but nobody probably even knows it exists

[paper maple]

Oh hey I read that one i think

[tall phoenix]

[wise yew]

To be fair 13 years of warhammer does a lot of someone

[tall phoenix]

BL knows how to produce slop thats for sure

this DW Short i read today took a lot out of me

[paper maple]

Deathwatch?

[tall phoenix]

Yeah lol

[paper maple]

What was it

[tall phoenix]

God it was something-something fire

hold on

[royal egret]

Was it the Kyme one

[tall phoenix]

Nah, surprisingly Fehrevati

like uhh okay so

[royal egret]

Maybe you just have bad taste

[tall phoenix]

Okay Iron Hand fan

🪞

anyway

it has a kill-team going to a dead hive filled with homeless people thats been abandoned by the imperium to kill some heretek

and like, the entire book is just bolter porn until the ending where they fight some skitarii

then the twist after everyone but the Salamander dead is

Oh no the heretek WAS our contact, the skitarii were holding her hostage (which i liked)

then the Salamander is like

"NOOOO THE IMPERIUM AND THE INQUISITION COULDNT HAVE LIED TO ME!"

[paper maple]

I KNOW THAT ONE!

god i also forgot it was Fire something

wait i got it on hand its on my shelf

[shy lark]

what with the walker in fire?

[paper maple]

Walker In Fire?

[tall phoenix]

YES

To both lol

[paper maple]

ye I just found it

fuck me this book is damaged and old

[shy lark]

but the cover is so good

this is peak salamander

[tall phoenix]

I hate that artist

so im biased

[royal egret]

That whole character series is hit or miss but I really loved Deadhenge

Rare case of an author being interesting with the whole flesh is weak thing

[tall phoenix]

googles

has Iron Hands

[severe trail]

this could be a soyjack

[shy lark]

I haven't read Walker in Fire but I might for a Salamander L

[tall phoenix]

yeah I see why now

[royal egret]

I hate plenty of IH shorts

[tall phoenix]

Uhuh

[royal egret]

Most probably tbh

[tall phoenix]

[royal egret]

A lot are lazy as fuck

[tall phoenix]

Its fun enough, I just found myself skim-reading by the end

it also has a funny techmarine

[royal egret]

This one wasn’t which was nice

The one about the Dark Angel on the squad was unfortunately about fallen iirc

[tall phoenix]

Classic.

I legit feel so bad for DA fans

[royal egret]

I don’t, they made their choice

[tall phoenix]

I have a friend of mine whos a full on DA fanatic that tells anyone who likes Fallen plots to "shut the fuck up"

exemplar of his fandom 🙏

[royal egret]

At least they have some good stuff

[tall phoenix]

Anything but the Fallen for their lore is good

[shy lark]

Feel worse for the Space Wolves fans

[tall phoenix]

shame its like literally a parasite

[royal egret]

Nah Space Wolves have

A lot of very good novels

[tall phoenix]

Yeah

[royal egret]

They’re fine

[tall phoenix]

then Wolftime

[severe trail]

Space wolves have good novels

[tall phoenix]

which they deserved imo

[severe trail]

they just have a shit reputation

lol

[tall phoenix]

their fans are also so and so

[shy lark]

Sure, they have good novels, but I read wolf seven times in a row and I piss blood

[royal egret]

Uh huh

[tall phoenix]

I got another friend whos like super chill

then the majority are like

"NO BRO WE WOULD HAVE TOTALLY WON THE MONTHS OF SHAME"

"FUCK THE INQUISITION"

[wise yew]

Blasting maroons 5 animals 24/7?

[tall phoenix]

Nah just taking the space wolf wank too seriously

[royal egret]

Why did you make me remember that song

[tall phoenix]

because you deserve to suffer

[severe trail]

also their reputation got blown up by memes

lol

SW slander

[tall phoenix]

anyway i got like the first 3 original ragnar books in physical form

[severe trail]

goes fucking crazy

[tall phoenix]

i absolutely am allowed to shit-talk SW

they were one of my fav Chapters before i got better taste

[royal egret]

https://tenor.com/view/sugar-singing-wedding-singer-eyes-closed-adam-levigne-gif-13776304

[tall phoenix]

[shy lark]

fuckin pee pee poo wolf wolf jarngrimr wolffucker

[royal egret]

Here

Remember this dogshit song too

[tall phoenix]

SVEN

VULFBAD

he works for chaos

[wise yew]

Homie that's not going to work on me i listen to these things unironically

[shy lark]

all they needed to do, CJ, was go full edda

[tall phoenix]

aughhh

[royal egret]

You would

Now if you’ll excuse me

I’m gonna go workout to Sabrina Carpenter

[tall phoenix]

anyway yeah Space Wolf fans are a hit and a miss, im glad i got like that 1 friend of mine for them whos a nice guy

otherwise no comment

except maybe never read Wolftime

[wise yew]

Yeah they are like a coin flip either they make sense and just like the faction normally or straight up they sound like they live in fenris

[tall phoenix]

Pretty much.

lore-accurate IRL space wolf fan moment

[shy lark]

I'm very biased because I like old norse sagas and I fucking despise meme gimmick vikings

[tall phoenix]

Nah thats absolutely fair

also a pretty normal take lol

[severe trail]

also people acting like 30k space wolves

are better then 40k ones

when it comes to Wolf

they aren't

[tall phoenix]

LOL

Or getting mad they got wolf helmets

[severe trail]

FW space wolves

[tall phoenix]

when that shit has been around since the 90's

[severe trail]

genuinely have one of the ugliest fucking minis

[royal egret]

Tbh those helmets just

[severe trail]

in existance

[royal egret]

Looked like shit

[tall phoenix]

Ehhhh

okay yeah it looks like shit i got nothing

[royal egret]

I don’t like any of them except

[severe trail]

I liked the 7e upgrade sprue wolf helmet more

tbh

[royal egret]

The deathsworn and uh

[tall phoenix]

the wolf priest mask?

[royal egret]

Wolf priest

[severe trail]

the gimpsuit mask

lol

[tall phoenix]

LOL

[severe trail]

one moment

I am retriving it

[royal egret]

No, they looked like dogshit

Complete

There’s a reason they pulled them

[tall phoenix]

Shut up.

[wise yew]

Bro she agreed

[shy lark]

heehoo they look like wolfshit

[royal egret]

They never pull stuff that fast

[royal egret]

She needs to agreed harder

[tall phoenix]

[royal egret]

There is no wishy washy allowed

[tall phoenix]

Also i was gonna say i loved the-

okay i cant even say wolf priest

Chaplains, fuck these wordings

[severe trail]

bag head

yes I know its historically accurate

but fuck it looks ugly as shit

also its leather

[tall phoenix]

fucking WWE reject

[royal egret]

Fucking Mighty Morphin shit

[tall phoenix]

it looks like a lego piece

[tall phoenix]

awooooga

[severe trail]

someone at FW had an agenda

to make SW look like shit

LOL

[shy lark]

twilight ass werewolves

[tall phoenix]

Hate it.

[severe trail]

CURSE OF BANANA FUR

[tall phoenix]

STOP POSTING THESE

[severe trail]

ONE MORE

[tall phoenix]

[severe trail]

you want to know what the worst part is

[tall phoenix]

not the Abaddon Space Wolf mini

[severe trail]

the fur is original

to the minis

the art doesn't have it

[tall phoenix]

yeah i was gonna say lol

[severe trail]

There was a perfectly good looking design

LOL

And they fucked it up

[tall phoenix]

I also love how for the 30k shit they just

plater rune/embossings everywhere

[shy lark]

I will hate GW 'til the day I die

[severe trail]

tbh I quite enjoy the 40k SW aesthetic

mostly

[tall phoenix]

I used to love this image but now all it does is remind of Algrim

pain

[royal egret]

I love when they draw Thunderwolves like this

[severe trail]

some of the more recent 30k stuff is way better

[shy lark]

Sometimes it's almost there for me, but then it's dookie ass

[severe trail]

like this dude

[tall phoenix]

Yeah thats much better

also i love the fur improvement

mostly

[severe trail]

Wolf helmet

run from it

dread it

[tall phoenix]

No way

Weshammer???

[severe trail]

oh my fucking god

[tall phoenix]

You will take your stupid overgrown toy wolves and you will like it

[severe trail]

why did you have to point that out

I can't unsee it

[tall phoenix]

its the fucking

[tall phoenix]

generic ass sidewinded mullet hairstyle

[royal egret]

I love a lot of Wolf Calvary art but ugh

[tall phoenix]

its like

i get the idea behind it?

but its such a fucking dumb thing

lol

space marines riding anything that isnt blocky bikes is dogshit

(pun intended)

[royal egret]

There’s a reason it’s not coming back it seems

[severe trail]

They might come back

[wise yew]

Just take off the space marine and i would just take the wolf to be honest

[severe trail]

tbh

I like this dude

he's kinda plain

[shy lark]

If it was a cool beast it'd be cooler (obviously)

[severe trail]

but like whatever

[wise yew]

Fenrisian wolves are cool without the marines

[tall phoenix]

I mean

[royal egret]

And Grimnars new model is gonna have him with wolf companions

[severe trail]

I also like Krom

[tall phoenix]

Oh yeah speaking of

confession

i mix up like

all 3-4 main space wolf characters

[severe trail]

I mean

[tall phoenix]

💀

Logan I always mixed up with Ragnar

[severe trail]

there are worse things

lol

god please let the sled die

[shy lark]

I know Russ and the meme dreadnought

[severe trail]

what the fuck were they thinking about

[tall phoenix]

DONT TOUCH THE SLED

[severe trail]

LOL

[tall phoenix]

hes like santa claus

let him have his fun

[royal egret]

I like Arjac Rockfist a lot

[shy lark]

At least give the dog a glowing nose

[tall phoenix]

Oh yeah thats my other thing with SW

their special characters suffer the Ultramarine effect

its either

"Oh hey I know that guy"

or

"Who?"

[royal egret]

That’s just cause we actually know people in their chapter

[severe trail]

Wolfified MK4

LOL

[tall phoenix]

Mr Freeze gun too

[tall phoenix]

too many

[shy lark]

I prefer it over the actual wolf helmet at least

[royal egret]

We don’t even know half the major leaders of a lot of these chapters

[severe trail]

SW's having like

mroe named characters

[severe trail]

then Drukhari had sheets in 8e

[tall phoenix]

Real.

[severe trail]

was fucking wild lol

[tall phoenix]

still waiting for that vect model

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[severe trail]

for updated vect

do you think he's getting more slaves

or less slaves

[royal egret]

Vect not having a model makes sense tbh

[tall phoenix]

LOL

I mean no

i always hated this excuse

we have examples where he goes out to realspace for raids

and it can always be a body double

[severe trail]

tbh the only thing with vect being on a mini is I want it to be grandiose

[tall phoenix]

same

[severe trail]

like the fucking Gluttons carrige

[tall phoenix]

it needs to be like some AOS tier thing

[severe trail]

Not just vect standing around

[royal egret]

Well you’re gonna need a better supply of copium then

[severe trail]

lol

[tall phoenix]

I got plenty dont worry

[severe trail]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-gif-766857345458198993

[tall phoenix]

again fan for 13 years and counting

[royal egret]

Fake fan clearly

Didn’t even know who Arjac is

[tall phoenix]

Fuck you

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cola-cat-cola-explosion-luma-ai-gif-12441479630905084027

anyway i gotta take a read

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Category:Characters_(Space_Wolves)

[severe trail]

just take this mini but make it BIGGER

and have the new Drukhari designs

[tall phoenix]

also more bitches

just add a guy in there

[royal egret]

I would love to see an updated version

[tall phoenix]

maybe one day

[severe trail]

Does vect like men

[tall phoenix]

Uhhh

[severe trail]

or do we not know

[tall phoenix]

He definitely loves himself

[royal egret]

I don’t think he likes anyone

[tall phoenix]

and hes a man

so i assume so

[tall phoenix]

relatable

[severe trail]

I think we can assume he likes women based on the mini

[tall phoenix]

LMFAO

SHUT UP

[severe trail]

lol

[tall phoenix]

I cannot have this conversation

[royal egret]

Maybe they’re just his roommates

[severe trail]

I AM TELLING THE TRUTH

Okay jokes aside

just maybe put Vect on like

a Tantalus or some new thing

thats between a raider and tantalus in size

[tall phoenix]

Yeah i assume they'd make it like some new raider model

[royal egret]

Put him on a goblin glider

[severe trail]

LOL

[tall phoenix]

Hellions have taken that

also rewinding back

[tall phoenix]

STOP THIS SHIT

[royal egret]

Look you try to come up with SW names

[tall phoenix]

I can do it

uhhh

[royal egret]

Iron is cool

That’s why it’s so overused in everything

[tall phoenix]

Mr. Blackfang?

FUCK

Im losing my sanity

[royal egret]

I would bet money most people couldn’t come up with a good name they don’t have on there lol

There’s soooo many fucking names

[tall phoenix]

Im looking thorugh them now

its like

Frost

Fang

Wolf

Pelt

Howl

or some shit like "Sven"

[shy lark]

Sven is just a normal name at least

[tall phoenix]

yeah theres a few Svens on here

since its like Nordic version of "john"

[royal egret]

My Deathwatch guy was Jormundur Halfblind.

[tall phoenix]

"Jormundur"

I mean

could be a lot worse i guess

[kindred yacht]

I’ve always leaned towards fantasy than 40k while 40k is cool and neat I love fantasy but I know nothing about it other the snippets from vermintide

[tall phoenix]

ill give it a 5/10

[royal egret]

Yeah let me see your homebrew names

[severe trail]

Ulfar The Everlost™️

[tall phoenix]

Its a bit tough but just watch some lore vids and you are kinda there

Arbitrator Ian has a good one

[royal egret]

https://tenor.com/view/stare-linkstare-catstare-theboysbutdumb-gif-26094112

[tall phoenix]

Uhhh

I got like over 80

hold on

[kindred yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/sir-yes-sir-gif-9677227512883570825

[royal egret]

Then how do you even know you lean toward it

What the hell does this even mean

[severe trail]

I’m assuming the aesthetic

[tall phoenix]

^

[royal egret]

Does he even know the aesthetic?!

[tall phoenix]

this attack is wild 💀

[severe trail]

I mean they played vermintide

[kindred yacht]

I prefer the look and feel of fantasy

[severe trail]

Block this overhead

[kindred yacht]

And uh I played vermintide

You silly billy

[royal egret]

Well I mean, he’s the one who said it!

[tall phoenix]

[shy lark]

I named my one Deathwatch space wolf Einar Hogghond, to reference Austin Powers judo chop, smile

[kindred yacht]

DIE

[royal egret]

That’s you, looking up at me

Now go read some fantasy books

[severe trail]

Whfb is dead long live AoS

[kindred yacht]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1342577028745924660/IMG_2110.gif

[royal egret]

And come back with a real opinion

[kindred yacht]

Yes sor…..

[shy lark]

Just read them Gotrek or whatever he's called books

[royal egret]

Gotrek and Felix are good starts

[severe trail]

Gotrek and Felix are good

[kindred yacht]

Do they have audio books?

[royal egret]

Omg

[kindred yacht]

[royal egret]

Of course

[kindred yacht]

[shy lark]

Gotrek are in audio format

[royal egret]

A weak audiobook listener

[kindred yacht]

Satisfactory

[royal egret]

But yes

[kindred yacht]

Be nice to me

[royal egret]

They’re by far the most popular and famous Fantasy novels

[wise yew]

Why are you treating audiobook listeners like they are Igneans

[kindred yacht]

I cannof read

[severe trail]

Because audiobooks are inferior/j

[shy lark]

Apparently the nagash trilogy is good, according to some

[tall phoenix]

its peak

literally Asshole: The Trilogy

[severe trail]

Such is the power of nagash

[shy lark]

I play Wurm Online, I need audio entertainment while playing it

[royal egret]

He is even worse than an heretic, he is, Vulkan forgive me for saying this, an Ignean.

[severe trail]

Genuinely nagash in AoS is hilarious

He’s even funnier in AoS then fantasy

[tall phoenix]

[wise yew]

Get shattered by the elven twink bozo

[kindred yacht]

The only thing I know about nagash is he’s the top necromancer methinks

[royal egret]

Ok now I’m gonna go what you do

“Hultar”

Could be worse I guess

[tall phoenix]

ITS LITERALLY A MADE UP NAME

YOURS IS FROM FUCKING JORMUNGAND

[shy lark]

Lucon Succ a git

[royal egret]

Yes and maybe there’s a reason no one used that name before

[kindred yacht]

Everything I’ve seen about him has to do with undead and such

[tall phoenix]

Yeah CLEARLY

fucking critic

[royal egret]

Jormundur is cool and fluffy

Also he was an old wolf priest so it worked and was cool

[tall phoenix]

my rule with 40k names for my characters is always making one up

its more fun for me

[royal egret]

Ok fine

[tall phoenix]

[royal egret]

Jormundyr

There

[tall phoenix]

now hes a votann

thanks, I hate it

HE CANT KEEP DOING THIS

Anyway uh returning to Fantasy

[tall phoenix]

Hes THE

Necromancer

the first one in the lore

[kindred yacht]

[tall phoenix]

also a total cunt so he fits the job

[wise yew]

Yeah and also one of the most massive pricks in the warhammer verse

[kindred yacht]

I can infer

[tall phoenix]

[royal egret]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-handsome-men-jerma985-jerma-twitch-gif-14556994246222571381

Jermundur

[tall phoenix]

NOOOO

[shy lark]

jormungandr is such a stupid fucking name, big foul spirit

[royal egret]

I still don’t even know what Jerma does beyond he’s a streamer/youtuber guy tbh

[royal egret]

Ok “Sigsen”

[tall phoenix]

same

LOL

[shy lark]

yeah my dads name is sigmar

i'm son of sig

[royal egret]

More like Sug mar

Got em

[shy lark]

succ me

[tall phoenix]

sig deez nuts in your fa-

https://tenor.com/view/how-did-he-do-that-cat-levitate-levitating-cat-fly-cat-stairs-gif-18283921532728273216

[royal egret]

So like

Is he on a rope

[tall phoenix]

That or greenscreened

[royal egret]

Or a string

[shy lark]

Cats can fly

[royal egret]

Oh yeah

[tall phoenix]

or that i guess

[royal egret]

I forgot

[kindred yacht]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1288287202249408616/1328580520300249088/speed-2.gif

[tall phoenix]

is this where another random user ive never seen before will appear and ask "are there cats in warhammer"

[tall phoenix]

also me

[shy lark]

but are there?

[tall phoenix]

Yes.

Next question.

[shy lark]

no or they'd say cats instead of felinids

[tall phoenix]

uhhh

[royal egret]

https://tenor.com/view/robocop-clarence-boddicker-no-panic-get-out-gif-12576546560115642827

[tall phoenix]

I THINK "felines"

[kindred yacht]

Dilara is actually a felind

[shy lark]

ok whatever dork

[tall phoenix]

NO

[severe trail]

Lol

[tall phoenix]

I do like how like some authors go "I cant just call them dogs, OH I will say Canid instead!"

next book i read

[kindred yacht]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1241946893035114538/1318371486247030845/attachment-15.gif

[tall phoenix]

"okay dogs"

[royal egret]

I’m about to become a Felonid after I send you to the ICU if you don’t stop yappin and get to….

listening

Ugh

[kindred yacht]

[tall phoenix]

Me when I find a felinid "fan" in 40k

im about to set them on fire

[kindred yacht]

@barren slate you’re cooked

It’s over

[royal egret]

Bought to make him crispier than KFC

[shy lark]

I'm gonna go buy some bolterporn marineslop book and enjoy it

[royal egret]

Damn

How could you

[shy lark]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-grimace-scrunge-gif-26477536

[tall phoenix]

God

[kindred yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sink-cute-pet-bath-gif-17353374

[tall phoenix]

💀

[royal egret]

Me, reading a book I know is stupid and sucks but I’m enjoying it

[kindred yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/bald-cat-rage-bald-head-cat-cat-silly-cat-weird-cat-gif-10142756518127810604

[tall phoenix]

okay go read Deathfire then

[royal egret]

I said sucks and stupid not is a monument to the failure of man and agriculture

[tall phoenix]

Read it.

[royal egret]

I have, it sucks

[tall phoenix]

Hey you can always re-read

its fun

[royal egret]

I can also take a cheese grater to my balls if I wanted

Free will is a wild thing

[tall phoenix]

Lore accurate Salamanders ritual

[severe trail]

I just realized the player character in project wingman is called monarch because they like butterflies, their emblem is a fucking butterfly lol

[tall phoenix]

anyway that also works, do it

[royal egret]

Nah they’d stir fry their balls

[tall phoenix]

it took me until like

when i was watching venture bros

to realise monarchs are butterflies lol

[royal egret]

Iron hands would cut them off and replace them with a plasma cannon

[severe trail]

Lol

[tall phoenix]

wheres that charles dance gif

[severe trail]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/projectwingman/images/f/f4/Monarch_Emblem.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width/360?cb=20201214014435

It’s a really angry and angular butterfly

But it’s a butterfly

[tall phoenix]

eh close enough

[tall phoenix]

https://i.imgur.com/5IrjQAb.gif

the fact that he perfectly looks like an Iron Hand too is what kills me

[severe trail]

Flesh is weak

[royal egret]

Very odd movie

[tall phoenix]

well

[royal egret]

Least strange Charles Dance role tbh

[tall phoenix]

it is named Space Truckers

[tall phoenix]

him in a tight latex skirt haunts me

[royal egret]

Tywin and after as basically the only time in his life he’s done like

Anything serious it feels like

[tall phoenix]

Honestly i prefer it that way

its nice to see him just play any role

those people tend to be my favorite kind of actor lol

its so strange seeing his way older stuff

like people dont realise he fucked Amanda Ripley in Alien 3

and thats one example

[royal egret]

https://youtu.be/TbwroS0YP54?si=77g-d3F8zYxs4VLx

What a time to be alive

[tall phoenix]

GOD DAMN IT

i also like how its "lord tywin" because its from 13 years ago during the entire GoT craze

jesus im old

[barren slate]

I loooooove cat ppl

Cats r so cool

Even if im hella allergic 2 them

This is me btw if u even flippin florpin care

[shy lark]

cats are ok, except for my old cat which was the greatest animal to have lived

[simple cloud]

Cat good

She is thinking about things

[royal egret]

That is a very pretty cat

[simple cloud]

Ty I made her myself

Ok I lied I did not make cats

[unborn merlin]

They were made with sugar, spice, and everything nice.

[safe plover]

listening to our martyred lady audio drama its the first good audio drama ive ever heard

[tall phoenix]

"First good"

what did you listen to before

[safe plover]

i dont even know some random slop about a titan

it was so offputting i stopped

CLANK CLANK CLANK ||muffled audio|| CLANK CLANK CLANK

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Honour_to_the_Dead_(Audio_Drama)

this was beyond awful

the audio engineers behind this need to be shot

[tall phoenix]

You literally picked like

the most "who?" audio-drama ever

no wonder it was bad lmao

[safe plover]

yeah 🚬 but martyred lady is really good

[tall phoenix]

Well yeah its a mainline audio-drama

definitely one of my favs tho i agree

and the most "movie-like"

[safe plover]

i dont care for the movie like aspects tbh but the dialogue and voice acting is so good it doesnt matter

the VAs for celestine kata and the spy dude are so good

[tall phoenix]

I mean you say "dont care" but its literally the point of audio-dramas, dialogue and voice acting included lol

you little shit

[safe plover]

im saying i dont like set dressing too much i can imagine shit just fine

[tall phoenix]

can you

[safe plover]

im imagining a conversation were u arent wrathful so yeah id say im good

[tall phoenix]

if you dont see me at my

you dont deserve me at my

[drowsy urchin]

Black Library audio dramas aren't the best in production quality to be fair. The mixing is often all over the place

[tall phoenix]

Theres a lot of good ones

the problem is they take a lot of time/effort to reach that stage which GW sometimes half-asses.

[safe plover]

🚬 it took what? 10 years for like a total of 30 animated episodes of 4-5 shows?

i dont think they know anything other than lets make more little plastic men

[deft bramble]

"plastic men"

[safe plover]

pardon

plastic men AND women

[severe trail]

They’re my plastic toy soldiers

Thank you very much

[barren slate]

I love my plastic dolls

I play dress up w them ,, nothin better

Totally dont 3d print them nooooh..

[tall phoenix]

[unborn merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-hornet-hollow-knight-gif-5503458344524908864

[safe plover]

what

it is a good audio drama

[tall phoenix]

kill him Clad

do it

[unborn merlin]

I'm kidding, I just like using it whenever there's a dog pile going on.

Chosen of Khorn is another great audio drama. A little bit old tho so it sounds a little crunchy at moments.

Obviously everyone recommends The Watcher in the Rain.

Throne of Lies is another goodie. Plus it's ADB and has Night Lords

[paper maple]

It has black templars in it so im taking this as an insult and sending blessed pipe-bombs to your mailbox.

[mellow knot]

I lament forever that none of my BL stuff ever made audio. An audio of Valkia would be so frickin’ cool.

[tall phoenix]

Warhammer Fantasy stuff in general barely gets audios so its a shame but alas not surprising which sucks.

[safe plover]

i dont understand how warhammer can have atheists

katarinya: look girlie i know you can sprout wings and disspel warp storms if you pray hard enough but idk about this whole "praying thing"

[tall phoenix]

Thats not being an atheist

what

Greyfax is a literal religious nutjob, she just doesn't trust Celestine lmao

[safe plover]

at the very least she is skeptical of the emperor divinity there were other things

[tall phoenix]

What left her utterly appalled though, was seeing how the Imperial defenders of Cadia worshiped the so-called Living Saint, Celestine — as it was nothing short of idolatry in Greyfax's mind. These sights, however, have not shaken her unwavering faith in the Emperor and Greyfax is committed to aiding the Imperium in defending Cadia. Greyfax ultimately worked alongside these psychic abominations and mutants such as Wulfen in battling Abaddon personally

[safe plover]

where is this from?

[mellow knot]

Yeah. Tragic when there’s so much good stuff.

I’d love to hear my Silver Skulls though, I love my boys.

[reef nacelle]

Keep in mind, most people are just living out their miserable lives. No miracles, no gods, no demons. Makes being an atheist a lot easier

[paper maple]

Gathering Storm

its where Greyfax first appeared

[safe plover]

the codex?

[paper maple]

Yes.

[safe plover]

makes sense i dont plan on doing codexes

[paper maple]

I mean you cant so

actually nvm it was all on the wiki i think lol

[reef nacelle]

Someone made an audio version of the gathering storm books on youtube if anyone is interested

It's not really worth it lol

[paper maple]

Lmao is it that bad

[reef nacelle]

Guillimans resurrection has a bit of drama going on but the others are "and then the cool thing happened and then these guys showed up etc "

The fall of cadia book covers the first gathering storm section now anyway

[safe plover]

guys where is angels of caliban in the timeline?

is it before or after emperium secondus

[royal egret]

After it was formed

[tall phoenix]

After, its the Lion hunting Curze after he commits flayterrorism across the planet

[royal egret]

Just read the description on the back nerd

Smh

[safe plover]

sooooooo

it ranges from finding curze to ruinstorm?

[tall phoenix]

Dont you literally have the timeline

like, on hand lol

[safe plover]

timeline doesnt exactly show the spans

[royal egret]

Just read them in order

In order is the timeline generally

In terms of arcs

[safe plover]

🚬 i think i plan on doing angels of caliban>ruinstorm>wolvesbane so far

im prolly gonna skip the corax anthology tho

[deft bramble]

@tall phoenix i finished The Wraithbone Phoenix

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-17729711691959966457

gw HAVE to make a movie or series out of it

the scenes just scream to have a screen representation

holy shit this is good

[royal egret]

It was ok

Solid middle of crime imo

[severe trail]

(all of warhammer crime)

Its all peak

even the most mid warhammer crime book is peak

[deft bramble]

names of other books like this

NOW

[severe trail]

https://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-crime

here's a full list

@deft bramble '

[deft bramble]

all of them are good?

[severe trail]

Yes

[deft bramble]

so many

[severe trail]

All of them

are good

[deft bramble]

alright...

[severe trail]

most mid book

Clear as glass

Chains is also kind of mid but its a short story

[deft bramble]

well i guess ill continue with admech one

[tall phoenix]

I hated the ending but otherwise it was super good.

Baggit and Clodd are also just such a great pairing

[deft bramble]

SAME

[tall phoenix]

My issue is like

it comes out of nowhere

and makes no sense

and why is this even a thing lol

[deft bramble]

yeah

[tall phoenix]

Im glad you agree tho, default Tavi W

[deft bramble]

felt like "fuck eldars"

[tall phoenix]

Yeah LMAO

[deft bramble]

the rest is peak cinema

K I N O

[tall phoenix]

100% aside from that thankfully the book is great, its formatted in such a way that you can just ignore the ending since its an epilogue

im a sucker for treasure hunt stories so i was PEAK

[deft bramble]

yeah cause fuck eldars

:))))

[tall phoenix]

yeah thats the norm

but as Elite said a lot of warhammer crime is good

id disagree in some aspects because theres definitely some mid stories, but the majority is really good

I actually made a compilation for my friend to read awhile ago handpicking some of my favorites, its like a huge baggage

[deft bramble]

thank you for advicing to read the phoenix book

great one

especially after Abnett's endings...

[tall phoenix]

Anytime, 40k books are great when the plot is a simple adventure format sometimes, Phoenix definitely fits into that category really well

[deft bramble]

^^^^

[unborn merlin]

I close my eyes therefore I do not see.

[deft bramble]

btw btw

i really liked that the artefact fell into the underhive

[tall phoenix]

Also like

[deft bramble]

we always were seing the surface, but there was the underhive as well

[tall phoenix]

"How did everyone know it exists and why are they hunting it?"

Some fucking idiot tells it in a bar filled with bounty hunters

also yeah the exploration of the underhive in general is peak

[wise yew]

How does this exist in this place

Do you have any idea the amount of shit the imperium loses because of how bloody fucked it is when it comes to management and size

[tall phoenix]

My friend did a small rewrite of the ending and ngl i prefer it 💀

[wise yew]

You can only go so far with the logistics my friend

[tall phoenix]

Uhhh long story

basically imperial admiral got it from an eldar ship he raided

the ship got boarded by raiders

he tasked a ratling to hide it

the ratling hated his guts

so he hid it somewhere it would never be found onboard

then the ship went out of commission and ended up on Varangantua

[deft bramble]

btw i remember hearing from Leutin a while ago that there was a book, in which a character saw a giant pile of shit, licked it and said "damn best thing ive tasted in my life"

what is it?

[tall phoenix]

LMAO

Damn thats like super specific, im not sure actually.

It sounds super familiar but...

[deft bramble]

it was in the underhive

[tall phoenix]

that... doesnt nail much

😭

[deft bramble]

its like the only stuff i remember

[wise yew]

Wait was it the necromunda the book

Where it had the thing called the slop

[deft bramble]

underhive - pile of shit and other stuff - licking it

[wise yew]

Where it's literally the runoff of the sewer gathered there

[unborn merlin]

KEK

That's honestly pretty awesome.

[tall phoenix]

No like its actually really well written

if i showed it to you you couldnt be able to tell its not official

[unborn merlin]

Make your own head canon when the canon fails you.

[tall phoenix]

ONLY book i ever did it with.

[wise yew]

I think he's talking about terminal overkill

[unborn merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/dante-dante-devil-may-cry-devil-may-cry5-hello-hello-based-department-gif-26042779

[tall phoenix]

actually good call that might be it

[wise yew]

Yeah it's an necromunda book

And the only book of the top of my head that has like something similar to what he is explaining

Wes you might be basic a s*** but you can be good for memory