40k-book-club

[drowsy urchin]

what a time to be alive

[tall phoenix]

I mean i dont give a shit

its more to see the reaction

because its a hilarious reveal, i remember people losing their minds in good/bad ways about it back in the day

[drowsy urchin]

[tall phoenix]

[safe plover]

wow this massive amazing tech is really good i wonder why its not mentioned in 40k

[tall phoenix]

I know right!

Anyway

[mcguffin explodes]

[safe plover]

wow this really POWERFUL doohicky could terraform a planet and kill nids i really hope it survives this story and makes a notible change to the main plot...

[tall phoenix]

god that was the worst part of Deathworlder ngl

like before some smartass says it no I dont want big changes done to the plot but at least make the fucking mcguffin something worthwhile without being so groundbreaking

[wise yew]

warhammer writers after I challenge them to make the powerful device survive and make a noticeable difference

[unborn merlin]

I liked Pharos because of the ultimate bromance between Pollux and Dantioch. Plus the Night Lords are pretty goofy.

[tall phoenix]

I wish they kept the sex scenes between them a little longer.

[unborn merlin]

SO TRUE

Would've been the best HH book hands down if they were several chapters long.

[tall phoenix]

🤝

[unborn merlin]

🤝

[safe plover]

the WHAT NOW

[tall phoenix]

🫵

[safe plover]

sex???? in my warhammer books????

[zinc crystal]

do the wh writers get to write whatever they want within the setting or is it like a gw approved process

[tall phoenix]

Both.

[zinc crystal]

I only because I wonder if everyone was like " Yes Gavin Thorpe this is acceptable"

[tall phoenix]

Basically you propose a narrative and depending on how long you worked with GW it'll get accepted/rejected

its very much like a movie deal

you can even use connections you got to grease palms to get a book deal etc

[zinc crystal]

with the gw executes being studio producers I see

[tall phoenix]

That we arent sure on but the process being getting a book done is very complicated from the stuff we do know.

[zinc crystal]

so dan abnett is just another writer? hes not like the head honcho among the other bl writers

[tall phoenix]

theres really no head honcho

theres just writers of varying experience

Dan like a few others just has a ton of influence because he wrote some of the best 40k books and GW knows his fame/talents and uses it accordingly

[zinc crystal]

[surreal vector]

Also need to keep in mind that GW at times go "okay, we have plans for this campaign next year and need some lore for it" and the writers propose their ideas

[tall phoenix]

Yeah that goes without saying obvs

tho thats very much usually the 5-10%

Those stories are ironically usually the ones that always end up being somewhat mid lol

[surreal vector]

Don't you badmouth Helsreach like that

[tall phoenix]

Helsreach doesnt count!

[surreal vector]

Tho the fall of cadia book was utterly mid

[tall phoenix]

Remember

a book so mid we instantly got a replacement thats leagues better years later

man Cadia Stands is so bad

[surreal vector]

New BL writers are hit or miss

[tall phoenix]

well this was Rath so at least we know it was alawys gonna be good

Justin D Hill is uh 💀

[brittle tapir]

it's not that bad but it does a great disservice to the event that started the entirety of modern 40k

it barely focuses on the events that lead up to cadia's demise

if the book was instead all about that whiteshield chick then it wouldn't be nearly as bad

[tall phoenix]

Yeah this is the main issue.

It just does "fuck-all" is the best way to put it i think

Fall meanwhile explores quite literally every single angle.

Chaos Marines, Abaddon, Guardsmen, Creed, etc

also even Trazyn which is lol

[brittle tapir]

it's way too vague about cadia's events. it takes the focus of individual soldiers who obviously have no idea what the big picture is

which is just a terrible way to portray it

[tall phoenix]

Yeah they literally go "wow we got posted in the middle of literally nowhere, i wonder whats happening out there"

and Creed then just shows up does a trollface and reveals the underground tank depots, its very funny

[brittle tapir]

fall of cadia actually shows every level of command while still keeping the sequence of events shrouded in a fog of war

[tall phoenix]

Thats what I loved about it yeah, also showing the entire event itself as a dragged out disaster too

[brittle tapir]

we see creed and even some random soldiers

[tall phoenix]

Yep its a rare case where I actually love the amount of random POVs

[brittle tapir]

but the way the author manages to tie everything together is amazing

you'll be wondering what this specific character's purpose is until they have an impact on another character

all while everybody has no idea what the other person is actually up to

[tall phoenix]

im legit surprised how Rath even did it to the point that you barely get a tonal whiplash from reading about a shellshocked guardsman one chapter then then the next is trazyn being all "hehehoho hey i want that one dude, huntsman can go shoot him1

[brittle tapir]

i liked the afterword and how he clearly had a passion for the book

he was inspired by actual events

not just a cartoonish version of events

dan abnett is a skilled writer but i dont feel that amount of passion for all his books

sometimes just feels like a job for him

im currently reading the night lords trilogy and i feel a passion there too

[tall phoenix]

Yeah most authors when they write about factions you can tell they put a ton of effort/passion into the stuff they produce and it really shows.

[brittle tapir]

you really can't be a good writer and have no passion for what you're writing about

yet they still exist

anyways i highly recommend fall of cadia but if you're getting it as an audiobook keep in mind that it's very hard to focus on the storylines while doing other tasks

[tall phoenix]

Yeah its why i preferred reading it

[brittle tapir]

you'll miss a lot of plot points like i did

[tall phoenix]

remind me was this the book where the audio actor was so bad they literally replaced them?

[surreal vector]

You have to be an extremely talented writer to make the audience root for objectively evil genocidal psychopaths and still feel bad for them when things go wrong

[brittle tapir]

yeah

[tall phoenix]

LOL

[brittle tapir]

i got the newer version

[surreal vector]

The NL trilogy is 10/10

[tall phoenix]

Thats one thing with me with 40k books, I legit almost never care for most Imperial characters in these novels because I know they are absolutely awful people lol

i only care if its literally just some regular joe

[brittle tapir]

to be honest, i do feel like they're sometimes overly noble for renegade space marines but i like when the book reminds you often about how terrible they are

[surreal vector]

They are noble... Until they're not

[brittle tapir]

i do enjoy the amount of comedy in the book

it's very dry humor i love it

doesn't break the pacing at all

[surreal vector]

Cyrion should have a stand up show

[brittle tapir]

"shut the fuck up uzas"

[surreal vector]

I like the part when Uzas screams so loud at a crewman that he goes deaf

[tall phoenix]

Thats the effect of basically needing to have "relatable" protagonists for readers to get attached to.

Its why largely we never see guardsman books have our characters do warcrimes/atrocities.

Like the lovable Jon the Guardsman joke about something as they are burning a group of civillians that were told to be "traitors" by their commanders to death

[brittle tapir]

i dont think aaron set out to make them likeable but i do think he wanted to make them look better than the black legion

which, fair enough

[tall phoenix]

Yeah with CSM its a different beast.

[brittle tapir]

screw the black legion they suck

[tall phoenix]

Its just "awful people with funny quirks"

i do legit eyebrow at people thinking the NL characters from the trilogy are "good people" tho thats just straight up goofy

[surreal vector]

Aside from ||octavia|| imo the only "good" character is ||the dreadnought||

And even then, that's pushing it

[brittle tapir]

for 40k characters i think they have a few admirable beliefs

[tall phoenix]

I guess so

[brittle tapir]

like they do not care about authority

and not caring about chaos (for the most part) is pretty based

nobody truly cares about helping the collective in 40k so the best you can find is people who at least dont care about pleasing somebody else

joining the imperium or chaos both lead to you kneeling to somebody else, and i find true renegades to be based

since they will always inevitable die

[surreal vector]

The NL don't really ignore chaos though

They do it in principle but in truth almost everyone worships some god or another

[brittle tapir]

yeah that's why i said for the most part

a lot of them do it without realizing it at first

except like uzas and the exalted

who are both portrayed as assholes

[surreal vector]

my boy Lucoryphus is one of the good ones

[brittle tapir]

my favorite part is when the captain of a different group of NL calls the exalted by his true name and says he is still the same worm he was when they were a full legion

and the exalted realizes that maybe he's been an idiot all along by bowing down to abaddon

if anything, night lords tend to be overly greedy

and talos is one of the few who realizes that getting more power is not the reason they fought in the heresy

[mellow knot]

A lot of it is driven by the studio as well, so there's three elements, really! Sometimes, you get asked if you'd like to write A Thing (tm) - that's how I ended up writing Valkia, f'rex.

[tall phoenix]

Very true!

Thank the gods we have Valkia as a good novel 🙏

[mellow knot]

You're awesome to say so, thank you x

[fallow vapor]

Hey guys, i m looking for a good imperial guard book/serie.

i already read all Gaunt’s Ghosts serie. Any idea ?

[tall phoenix]

We got some in the blog in the pins if you wanna take a look there

[brittle tapir]

end and the death part 3

please do not listen to me

[astral adder]

My twin came back from hanging out with a friend like 2 days after new years and he got a book about the horus heresy

[reef nacelle]

Cadian Blood by ADB is a good read. Only a one off book though

[safe plover]

have him read it and see if you know the story through twin mind connection

seriously tho which book?

[tawdry crane]

is there any book/series i need to read before starting Gaunts ghosts?

[tall phoenix]

Nope its an original series, you can just get started

[reef nacelle]

No, it's self contained more or less

It was my first 40k book actually

[tawdry crane]

Thanks

[safe plover]

finished pharos its eh

started out nice and ended nice but like theres a solid 25 chapters of meh

[astral adder]

Horus rising

[drowsy urchin]

good shit

[astral adder]

Yeah but I wanna listen to an audio version because I get lost easily while reading

[drowsy urchin]

valid and true

I prefer audio as well 100%

[cerulean peak]

Good. Now finish Legion

[safe plover]

never

[cerulean peak]

If you do, I will read an horus heresy novel of your choice

[safe plover]

🤔

what havent you read?

[cerulean peak]

I need to finish Mechanicum

[astral adder]

You gotta any audio books I can listen to or we talking live reading

[cerulean peak]

I've only skipped the dark angels one and Battle for the abyss

[safe plover]

decend of the angels?

[cerulean peak]

yea that one

[safe plover]

[cerulean peak]

I can skip ahead to any later novel

[safe plover]

deal

[drowsy urchin]

decent of angels is decent but feels like a side mission from the heresy

[cerulean peak]

preferable if it doesnt require to read another novel beforehand to make sense

[safe plover]

ill do legion after deafthfire

[tall phoenix]

DO NOT

[cerulean peak]

nice

[tall phoenix]

Listen to this fucker

[cerulean peak]

I am not the wisest man

[drowsy urchin]

explain yourself

[safe plover]

wtf

[tall phoenix]

Descent of Angels is not a good book, its an absolute snorefest like almost every DA novel in HH

[safe plover]

decent of the angels is nice

its comfy

[tall phoenix]

Clad no offense but your opinions are TRASH

[cerulean peak]

[safe plover]

we agree on many things

[drowsy urchin]

It wasn't the worst, can't remember much of it but I didn't dislike listening through it

[tall phoenix]

its not the worst but its boring af

get out

[drowsy urchin]

eh, wasn't bored either

[safe plover]

decent of the angels is nice ill fight all of you it tells a small scale story

its super comfy

[tall phoenix]

Considering most of your takes ill take this with a pound of salt

✋

[safe plover]

yeah its not related to the heresy that much

[tall phoenix]

im here to read about the Horse Heresy, not some fucking dark angels doing jackshit

[safe plover]

but theres like zero preheresy content

[drowsy urchin]

Like, Battle for the Abyss is boring, Decent of Angels is just whatever

[tall phoenix]

Get out!

🗣️

[safe plover]

id love it if there was a thousand sons book like decent of the angels

imagine a comfy book about magnus going around planets hunting for lost books

COMFY

[cerulean peak]

I've got my hands on a non-moldy copy of Legion

i can resume my read

[tall phoenix]

Not gonna be so comfy with my FIST up your ASS

[safe plover]

AYO

its still a comfy book idc

[tall phoenix]

Also im more like your cagematch manager tbh I like seeing you fight people as I bet money on the background.

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-vince-mc-mahon-entrance-entry-strut-gif-4685176

[safe plover]

lmao

seriously tho

[cerulean peak]

based

[safe plover]

the pre heresy content is lacking

[drowsy urchin]

it's just dudes being bros in a fucked up forest

[safe plover]

hell yeah

[drowsy urchin]

and there's a castle where people do weird cult stuff

[safe plover]

also it has the cheesiest scene in all of the heresy

[tall phoenix]

if i want that ill take any regular 40k book

this is like buying a book about WW2 but the entire novel is the guy's homelife

[safe plover]

no i want pre heresy before shit hit the fan

[tall phoenix]

then eat it

Im not asking anymore.

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-s4-homelander-cough-disgust-gif-15540398707739933423

[safe plover]

a full ass librarian goes hey lil bro let me real quick tell you the entire story of everything

[safe plover]

damn last person i expected to homelander post

becareful it starts out ironic until its not

[drowsy urchin]

she's the sloplander

[safe plover]

🚬 you guys dont understand the comfiness of that book

its like a 40k slice of life manga

[cerulean peak]

@safe plover nevermind that deal. i'd rather not subject myself to Descent of the snoozefest just to make you read a fine novel

[safe plover]

🚬 this is how legionists are born

[tall phoenix]

Gotta read a marine book every week for that one

Sloptartes rise up

🗣️

[simple cloud]

Lmao

[tall phoenix]

I also just finished Outgunned which is better

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-serious-jay-bauman-half-in-the-bag-break-the4th-wall-look-at-the-camera-gif-17253460

[safe plover]

HEY I ALMOST READ THAT

[simple cloud]

I wish I could read

[safe plover]

pls no outgunned spoilers

i will read it in 2 years

[tall phoenix]

Yeah spoilers

the book has orks in it

they also fly planes

[cerulean peak]

https://tenor.com/view/deffkopta-shootas-blood-teef-warhammer40k-ork-flyboyz-gif-25036874

[tall phoenix]

My man

[safe plover]

STOOOP

[tall phoenix]

Hehehe weeee

[astral adder]

And the planes are probably made from a tooth pick and bike pedals

With a seat

[tall phoenix]

Well they were

[astral adder]

Simply works with imagination

[tall phoenix]

Nah its just Phase 1 planes.

they still break apart

[astral adder]

The orks built this in a cave with a box of scraps

[tall phoenix]

thats actually a point the propagandist main-character says when hes viewing the first footage that he researches before actually landing on the planet. By the time he arrives the orks have upgraded to proper MiG-like fighter jets which horrifies him.

[astral adder]

And it runs on triple a batterys

[safe plover]

deathfire is pretty fire ngl

[tall phoenix]

oh my god

[drowsy urchin]

[tall phoenix]

Cant read Legion

but can read one of the most universally boring books in HH

no comment

[tall phoenix]

like

Battle for the Abyss fine i can let that fly

but Deathfire? Nah this guy needs to go chat

[safe plover]

deathfire is GOOD

idc come at me

VULKAN LIVES

[simple cloud]

Lmao

[cerulean peak]

https://tenor.com/view/adrien-brody-disappointed-annoyed-unhappy-disturbed-gif-15450670

[safe plover]

VULKAN LIVES

[simple cloud]

wtf m8

[royal egret]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-disappointed-fan-seriously-what-are-you-doing-judging-you-gif-17485289

[tall phoenix]

Get him chat, kill him!

[safe plover]

be nice to me or ill remind the other mods you never had zealot chat duty

[drowsy urchin]

deserved

[simple cloud]

Lmao

[safe plover]

deathfire is good so far

im at chapter 13 rn

[royal egret]

https://tenor.com/view/wesley-snipes-gif-5584660563414908453

[safe plover]

go ahead

much like vulkan ILL STILL LIVE

[tall phoenix]

its a fulgurite bullet

your reign of terror has gone too far

[safe plover]

nah i'd live

[deft bramble]

Eisenhorn: holy fuck how do i defeat my sworn enemy, he so stronk and im so week...

Ravenor out of nowhere:

https://www.instagramez.com/reel/DFAtDkKOVB9/?igsh=MTZoeTdhbWFnbXU4ag==

[tall phoenix]

Not wrong.

[cerulean peak]

Is ravenor better than eisenhorn?

I read the whole eisenhorn omnibus in one go back then and I was kinda burnt out at the last novel

[simple cloud]

It’s really good. Some aspects are better I would say.

It feels richer. You can tell Abnett has grown as a writer.

[royal egret]

Yeah what Kaggen said, I think it’s weaker a bit narratively but there’s a lot of more fleshed out characters

The endings aren’t as well done but the little stuff Abnett is good at are imo

[safe plover]

https://tiermaker.com/create/horus-heresy-book-series-17106239

YO WTF

WHO MADE THIS 😠

WHY IS ANGELS BOTTOM TIER

[drowsy urchin]

yeah it should be battle for the abyss

descent on top of that

[safe plover]

🚬 smh you guys

it was alright i like groups of rag tag marines teaming up to do some task

[drowsy urchin]

I made it better

[safe plover]

false gods was nice 😭

[drowsy urchin]

it has the problem of making Horus a bit silly

[safe plover]

i do agree tho this was kino

mark of calth only the last story tho

tbh so far the only books that i really disliked were legion nemisis pharos and like 90% of the short stories

[simple cloud]

Lmao battle for the abyss tier

Also fear to tread really? Thought it was kind of bad.

[royal egret]

“Have not read” list is about where it belongs ngl

[drowsy urchin]

It's between very good and enjoyable for me

[drowsy urchin]

It'll change once I start Nemesis but the rest will stay as is

[safe plover]

im treating them all as one story

[iron ore]

Dark Angels books are a snoozefest

Salamanders books are a snoozefest

[safe plover]

😠

i will read anything featuring the SoS or salamanders idc

[shy lark]

i fixed it gooder

[drowsy urchin]

deranged list

[brittle tapir]

fulgrim being that high 😔

[drowsy urchin]

it's good

[brittle tapir]

i'd give it C

closer to B

it's just a bit boring and the side characters break the flow

we really didn't need to follow so many humans

[safe plover]

konrad to sangui ||Do you really think it was chance? I want to know. Each one of us was
cast away upon a world that turned out to suit our characters perfectly,
characters our father engineered. Furthermore, the characters of many of our
Legions’ Terran sons were also matched with those of the worlds we were
found upon. ||

emperor really said || ATTRACTIVE PEOPLE TO THE ULTRA MARINES, BLOOD ANGELS, AND SONS. BALD PEOPLE TO THE LUNA WOLVES||

[drowsy urchin]

not all luna wolves are bald...

[safe plover]

🚬 the best ones are

[drowsy urchin]

and you are missing the emperor's children being probably the most attractive

Loken wasn't bald

[safe plover]

err yeah i thought it was sons of the emperor

[safe plover]

yeah he wasnt a true born

they had a name for them

people who start looking like horus after geneplants

[drowsy urchin]

Neither was Torgaddon iirc

Abaddon has a topknot

[safe plover]

it was a wig

[drowsy urchin]

every legion starts to resemble their genesire, some just more than others

as in some within the legion, not some legions more than the other

[safe plover]

yeah but luna wolves had some people who started looking like him face wise

[drowsy urchin]

that applies to every legion

[safe plover]

not the same

[drowsy urchin]

aximan just was extra similar

[safe plover]

im pretty sure luna wolves had something where people started looking more and more like horus

[drowsy urchin]

it's not a Sons of Horus specific thing

[safe plover]

pretty sure it is

[drowsy urchin]

no

[safe plover]

im asking on lore

im not saying its just them

im saying luna wolves had it more so

[drowsy urchin]

where do you get that, because every legion has mentions of 'oh this captain is like a mirror piece of their primarch'-guy

[safe plover]

luna wolves had it more so

[drowsy urchin]

there is no mention it being so

[safe plover]

gimmie 45 minutes ill find the exerpt

[drowsy urchin]

yes it is mentioned that Aximan, aka Little Horus looks like a spitting image of Horus, but it is not said that it's somehow a rare case where it only happens/happens more often to their legion

[safe plover]

im pretty sure it was mentioned that its more common in luna wolves

[drowsy urchin]

I doubt it but if it is, it's silly because it just as common for every legion

for some arguably more common than Luna Wolves

[safe plover]

🚬 why does no one ever take my word for anything in this chat

[drowsy urchin]

there is no mention of it being more common for them than other legions

[safe plover]

🚬

etymological argument

they had a name for it therefore it was common enough to warrant a name

no other legion had a lable for such people

[drowsy urchin]

yeah because most legions have most of their legionaries look like their primarch

[safe plover]

🙄

[drowsy urchin]

Devastation of Baal
Among the scions of Sanguinius there were all manner of skin tones, variations in height and eye colour, but all of them unmistakably bore the marks of their gene-sire. Even those brothers whose basic physiology was markedly different had been changed by their gene-seed, their faces resculpted to echo the thousands of images of Sanguinius that filled the Arx Angelicum. They resembled each other in a fundamental way that simply sharing kinship could not explain. He looked upon myriad variations of Sanguinius’ face. Some Chapters were more heavily touched than others, so that all their battle-brothers looked as if they had been stamped out of a mould.

[safe plover]

🙄

this is tiresome

"bore the marks" is not as deep as "bearing a facial resemblance"

[drowsy urchin]

look at the last two sentences

[safe plover]

no

"more heavily touched than others"

[drowsy urchin]

how much more bearing ones facial resemblance can one be than stamped out of their primarchs face mould

[safe plover]

you are grasping at thinner straws than the narrator himself

[drowsy urchin]

Quite frankly you are because your argument for the Luna Wolves has no basis on being more so than other legions when we have myriad other mentions from other legions having the same amount of more instances of the same thing

[safe plover]

🙄

[safe plover]

@tall phoenix start reading from here pit mistresse

[safe plover]

i am not gonna gonna start another debate on wheater or not you enjoy the screaming matches

[tall phoenix]

Idk i was busy the entire day

[simple cloud]

Wat could u possibly have been doing if not entertaining us

[tall phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1279574218950049814/diggin.gif

[safe plover]

her status says life is very painful in turkish what do you think?

[tall phoenix]

its "life is tiring"

google translate moment

[safe plover]

nah i was going by hungarian and arabic knowledge
haya life
shok a lot/very
whatever tiring is it sounded like waja which meant pain

[tall phoenix]

[safe plover]

turkish people love it when i compare their language to arabic i know

[simple cloud]

Wow random basal (and stem) indo-European languages 4 ftw

[unborn merlin]

Just finished Long Live Da Red Gobbo.

https://tenor.com/view/one-peak-one-piece-one-piece-cry-its-so-peak-gif-13413926760013023520

[tall phoenix]

Kommunism lives on for another day....

[stable kayak]

Does anyone have any Music that fits Cadian Blood?

[cerulean peak]

Just put on a ww1 trench warfare background soundtrack

[royal egret]

https://youtu.be/2H5uWRjFsGc?si=gZm-TbKyHYsQh8xt

[stable kayak]

The guard Experience

https://tenor.com/view/mustafa-necohaus-kitty-cat-warhammer-40k-gif-11500918880958315641

[tranquil briar]

peak culture

[brittle tapir]

first night lord book finished

i like the depiction of dread v dread battle

[drowsy urchin]

https://youtu.be/_Gad1odrN0E

time for kino

[safe plover]

i bearly survived the whole ass chapter of || kasper sleepy time with the dreadnaughts|| im def not gonna survive that

[drowsy urchin]

get an adblocker my god

[safe plover]

doesnt work on discord 😭

[drowsy urchin]

She's also done an interview about Legion, you should watch that as well

[safe plover]

[drowsy urchin]

like honestly, might get you to retry it

[safe plover]

the writing of the first couple of chapters made me wanna die

but from what ive seen of dan he writes one bullshit chapter a book

like the fucking lokin goes to university chapter in horus rising

what the fuck was that

[drowsy urchin]

it's called WORLD BUILDING

[safe plover]

🙄 you can world build without having kasper hauser yap about the darkness for 30 minutes

[drowsy urchin]

but that's the best way to do it

smh

[safe plover]

the entire fucking chapter

it served NOTHING

aside from one minor callback

[frigid osprey]

why dont u try reading some warhammer 40k books

[safe plover]

its not in my budget for 2025

im just doing horus heresy this year

[frigid osprey]

cripes

imagine only reading the prequel series and nothing else

truly deranged

[safe plover]

imagine not starting chronologically

[frigid osprey]

its still the prequel series

[safe plover]

i love all prequels

[drowsy urchin]

Oh wow, Dan had a seizure writing the book which accidentally affected the writing of the book

there's the reason for the weird out of body stuff in it for you

[safe plover]

yeah

i just got to that

damn ok

i excuse the bullshit chapter

dan i 🧎‍♂️‍➡️

[drowsy urchin]

[safe plover]

still

thank god hes medicated now

[drowsy urchin]

Yeah

[tall phoenix]

Relatable.

[tall phoenix]

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU

WHO WATCHES A 1H VIDEO ON DISCORD

[drowsy urchin]

man, I really really like listening to Dan ramble about warhammer

[safe plover]

🚬

i used to before the embeded ads

[deft bramble]

id watch full 40k lore in a discord video

[tall phoenix]

[deft bramble]

btw im on 2/3 of Ascention, and now i understand why genestealers are "cults"

[tall phoenix]

Lmao

why is that

also you mean Day of Ascension?

[deft bramble]

admech vs jeans

well if you say im wrong, i dont know shit about genethieves

[tall phoenix]

yeah Day of Ascension

👖

its more that like yes, they are a cult

its not that hard to see why

[deft bramble]

havent watched even a bideo about them

[frigid osprey]

adrian tchaikovsky

fookin legend

[tall phoenix]

loved that book

super gay

[frigid osprey]

i need to read that still

[tall phoenix]

Its super good, nothing amazing but a very fun read

[frigid osprey]

hell yeah

[deft bramble]

i absolutely hate how he spends half an hour to describe feelings of some characters at any moment

its like "chatgpt, please write i hate X in 200 words"

[frigid osprey]

motherfucker

u know hes an actual author!!

not read that book but jeez!

[deft bramble]

even descriptions of clothes by dan abbnet are not so annoying

[tall phoenix]

its a book

we need descriptions!!!

[deft bramble]

well, descriptions are good, but not when you make 30 of them in a row about absolutely fucking the same thing

[frigid osprey]

in this case, feelings apparently

[deft bramble]

feelings yes

[frigid osprey]

i need to read this motherfuckin shit

[deft bramble]

every fucking time a character thinks about the guy he hates, he will describe it over and over again

triggering me so much

[tall phoenix]

stop hating, now!

[deft bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/spoon-cat-spoon-spoon-cat-cat-apple-apple-cat-gif-254879498273748

[frigid osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-ring-no-isildur-lord-of-the-rings-gif-5743603

[cerulean peak]

Do you even need to ask the question?

[safe plover]

🚬

[tawdry crane]

What book do i read after reading eisenhorn‘s magos story?

[royal egret]

Bequin if you’ve read the Eisenhorn and Ravenor trilogies

Bequin book 1 and 2, 3 pending Soon™️

[tawdry crane]

Well i didnt read the ravenor books unfortunatly, i just mainly want to keep up with eisenhorn now that he went to ||sancour||

[royal egret]

I would say reading Ravenor is extremely important.

You're skipping the middle of the series doing that.

You won't know a lot of characters otherwise.

[tawdry crane]

Alright ill do that, the bequin books are too expensive anyway

[cerulean peak]

There's a new printing of the ravenor omnibus coming out this summer

As for bequin, wait until they release the third tome and that they eventually print an omnibus

(If you read in paper)

[runic root]

Still waiting for the 6th arihman book to drop so i can buy and read book 4-6 in one concise omnibus, which for ahriman would be the 2nd omnibus. By the way, how come that Gaslight master and whiny bitch gets 6 books but marneus Augustus calgar, probably the most renown chapter master in the current narrative, is stuck at two novels?

[unborn merlin]

GW felt silly.

He gets a decent amount of screentime in the Dark Imperium trilogy.

[tall phoenix]

Calgar has novels?

[unborn merlin]

Dude looks cool but I don't know what his novels would look like.

[tall phoenix]

He gets angry and smashes.

also complains about having huge wankfists

[unborn merlin]

Blueberries go to planet. He growls at some dude and punches them. The End.

Repeat this for five books.

He's much better as a side character.

I want a new Kardan Stronos novel but that's mostly because Iron Hands can't get shit in Detroit.

Maybe they'll get thrown a bone in the future because of the reintroduction of Fulgrim? Probably not.

[tall phoenix]

Its also very hard for some people to also just accept most Marine characters are very boring and generic like any other faction too lol

they are action heroes

[unborn merlin]

Girlyman is just gonna punch him with some BS mcguffin.

[tall phoenix]

its like putting Arnold Schwarzenegger in a serious movie, he looks out of place

[unborn merlin]

100%

Who woulda thought the genetically engineered supermen have almost identical personalities besides a few outliers.

[tall phoenix]

yeah i think SM2 proves your point even more with Calgar. He appears, looks cool, kills goons, does literally nothing else and people were going wojak-point/crazy towards him.

the moment you try to make anything else with him hes just very boring, its why the comic works because its relatively short

he has an interesting enough backstory that is ok'ish

[unborn merlin]

I like his big ole fists

That's about it.

His old art of him sitting down on the throne is pretty dope.

[tall phoenix]

🐇

[unborn merlin]

Def fits the mold of cool looking veteran space marine but I wouldn't pounce on a new book if one came out.

[tall phoenix]

only downside

no raptor dinosaur armrest

[unborn merlin]

In my unbiased opinion they should just scrap the idea of Calgar novels altogether to make more Lukas ones.

https://tenor.com/view/trade-offer-gif-21546586

[tall phoenix]

REAL.

Tho I love Lukas but holy shit him "tricking" Magnus was so fucking dumb

lmao

[unborn merlin]

They got a goldmine there dude but refuse to do anything about it.

He could've been the SM version of Cain and I honestly think it could work.

[tall phoenix]

same, Lukas the Trickster is one of my fav 40k books

[unborn merlin]

At least give me a short story man...

I'm glad you recommended it, love that one.

[tall phoenix]

Lmao anytime, i remember reading it way back in uni its such a fun romp

a rare novel where both the antagonist/protagonist factions somehow "win"

its super funny and no one gets humiliated

[unborn merlin]

It is one of those rare feel good novels in the setting.

It helps that Lukas just doesn't act like a SM.

[tall phoenix]

Yeah theres barely any grimdark minus some few contemplative scenes.

also YEP

[unborn merlin]

So that makes him interesting.

[tall phoenix]

He very much is against his own culture but rolls with it because theres not much else he can do

[unborn merlin]

The only other "loyalist" SM in the present setting that I find as enjoyable is maybe Cypher but that's because the dude is a total schizophrenic.

His last novella was just alright tho.

[tall phoenix]

Yeah i liked it but like

i dont think its a good image when i only read a character's novel and i come out of it going: "wow the setting of it was super cool! I guess the protagonist was also there"

[unborn merlin]

So true

French is really hit and miss for me too.

[quaint canopy]

Awww, is that his comfort blanky?

[tall phoenix]

LOL

[unborn merlin]

Yes it is.

Girlyman gave it to him for Sanguinala last year.

[runic root]

He does. Ive read excerpts of them on reddit and they have been summed up and descsribed to me as semi decent, sligthly pompous, sometimes shallow bolter porn. Not quite as bad as the early screentime I CATO SICCARIUS got, but also not as good as the ventris novels

[tall phoenix]

well they are from the mid 2000's so not too surprising.

[runic root]

Fair. I wish we would see their way to the top rather than what they are now. Characters like calgar, siccarius, abbadon, tyberos, ahriman etc suffer from main character syndrome, since they are so important to the setting sales wise (this is still a tabletop Game afterall, the lore is advertisment for the models) and important for the overall lore directive, that anything major with them in it HAS to drive the main story forward in some way thus significantly restraining the amount of character developement they can be given. Also, given that most of these character are at the top of their respective environment, they logically should have to be already been pretty flashed out, for in universe, who would follow and unseasoned chaptermaster for example.

I would therefore be far more interested in novels that show the youth and rise to fame/to the top, the trials and adversity of those characters.

Show me how asterion moloch wrested the title of chaptermaster into hands. Give me an omnibus about tyberos the red wake in his early days of being a space marine. Give me calgar as a neophyte serving in the scout regiments.

[tall phoenix]

Aside from Ahriman (whos entire series is kino and excellent) the others are so and so id say. The others tho are just a case of really nobody wanting to write for them or GW just not appointing anyone for it unless theres a need for it which also checks out seeing as most of these dudes really dont do much in the smaller schemes of the setting either.

The closest we got of that is with Dante's novel and a few others but its eh

[cerulean peak]

Magnus has been tricking himself for 10000 years

[tall phoenix]

LOL

[cerulean peak]

For the highest IQ primarch he's been acting more dumb than most. Even russ

[tall phoenix]

To be fair thats just main character syndrome

he can literally eradicate people from existence but he will just shoot lightning instead

because uhhh we cant have our main characters get instantly exterminated

[cerulean peak]

Well... he IS his father's son

Two of the most gigabrains in the galaxy; yet they can't do any basic communication

[tall phoenix]

No no no

see its perfectly explained

because the emperor is so removed from humanity! He doesnt understand humans! Thats why hes such a moron and always makes stupid decisions!

cope

[cerulean peak]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-laugh-funny-hilarious-drunk-gif-9612213

Primarchs (and emperor) apologists...

[tall phoenix]

ıts not even apologism its like

idk any word aside from "cope" tbh, like it doesnt matter that its ""explained"" in a future novel, it still makes no fucking sense lol

the Emperor is probably one of the worst characters in 40k to also suffer from multiple-writers syndrome, its just awful

[tall phoenix]

Also this is 40k if no one had plot armor.

"humanity will never fall" ahh 💀

[cerulean peak]

Delusion

[tall phoenix]

Anyway im sure someone will ping me in like 30m or an hour or so going "nuh uh"

[runic root]

I agree with you here. Its the absolute power problem. How do you defeat something that is, by its own definition unbeatable? Thats why only a sith deals in absolute

[cerulean peak]

https://tenor.com/view/valia-gif-25950437

[tall phoenix]

No i didnt mean you dont worry

you are way too sensible for something like that

[royal egret]

This is why psykers are stupid

[tall phoenix]

speak of the devil

I MEAN yes

[cerulean peak]

Small scale warhammer is more interesting and realist most of the time

[tall phoenix]

this is once more to remind you people to read Crime

yes this is propaganda

🗣️

[royal egret]

Magic in general always sucks, and is boring unless you attach rules

Which half the time ever happens

[tall phoenix]

Yeah the problem with 40k is magic is literally

"whatever the author wants"

which is cool but also sucks depending on the context

[cerulean peak]

I'm keeping all the good stuff for the last in my backlog

My suffering will heighten the good stuff

[royal egret]

Some authors are smart enough to keep it more small scale

[cerulean peak]

Alas I must go through the heresy and siege

[tall phoenix]

It will be fiiiine

[royal egret]

But regardless, it just depends, there’s good portrayal of psykers and then there’s the Mephiston books and shit

[tall phoenix]

Yeah its why i love the ahriman stuff with it

Mephiston being just regarded as the "greatest psyker ever" always pisses me off tho

[cerulean peak]

Mephiston is a power fantasy

[tall phoenix]

its not even because hes a space marine id hate it if he was a human too lol

[royal egret]

Ahriman books do a pretty decent job keeping it interesting

[tall phoenix]

Yeah its also like creative magic

mephiston is literally

ZA WARUDO

😭

[cerulean peak]

Nothin' personnel, heretic

[tall phoenix]

Im never gonna forgive that fucking moron for what he did during the Devastation

but still lol

[cerulean peak]

Blood angels are overrated 🙂

[tall phoenix]

They are cool

otherwise uh no comment

[cerulean peak]

I'm not saying they don't look cool

[tall phoenix]

I like them but uh after you read like 2-3 of their novels you read em all

because ahem

BLACK RAGE

RED THIRST

BLACK RAGE

[cerulean peak]

insert dante meme proaganda

[tall phoenix]

i wish authors explored Chapters beyond their fucking like-

genetic curse trope

lol

like I GET IT

[cerulean peak]

Look! He's the guy who just wants to die!

So funny haha

[tall phoenix]

Im glad people turned Dante into that

not like he has such a rich history of everything else

guhhh

[cerulean peak]

Dante is the perfect characterisation of actual warhammwr lore nerds witnessing the shallow memes

[tall phoenix]

Genuinely.

"He just wants to die" is like what

10% of his character?

lol

He has so much more shit but its always just gotta boil down to that aughh

[cerulean peak]

He's old

[tall phoenix]

👩‍🦽‍➡️

[cerulean peak]

https://tenor.com/view/mgs4snake-mgs4-snake-vs-liquid-gif-25686383

Is lucius getting more characterisation eventually?

How tf does he even becomes the chosen of slaanesh

He's just scratching his face and being obsessed with swords

[shy lark]

40k memes in a nutshell

ok gamers, what's a good 40k book I haven't read/listened to. I need a new one

[cerulean peak]

What have you read/listen so far

[runic root]

Suggestion:

Loyal emperors children Primaris chapter that has a genetic defect that allows them to catch otherwise forbidding feelings like sexual lust, romantic love, human fear, etc.

Would make for some deep psycholgy drama/grimdark commedy

Or even more funny, make it a loyal iron warriors Primaris chapter.... Butterflies within, Butterflies without lol

[shy lark]

Most things not 30k, that's the problem

[runic root]

Son of the forrest, the Infinite and the devine, genefather. One of those. Also, the dawn of fire series is commendable so far, i was actually surprised that wolf time by gav Thorpe didnt suck as much as i expected it to be and was mostly enjoyable. Also, flesh and steel by guy Haley If you can get your hands on it and like true crime esque novels. I have the audio book.

[runic root]

The first 3 horus heresy books are absolute bangers

[shy lark]

Well I haven't read Wolftime, might as well

I piss on 30k but I unironically like Galaxy in Flames, yea

[runic root]

I enjoyed the primaris space wolf named gaius in there. Very good character developement for just one novel

[severe trail]

Read Dominion Genesis or warhammer crimes flesh and steel

[severe trail]

For the love of god do not do this to yourself

Reading wolftime is prolly one of my worst expierence with a modern 40k book

As in released post 6e

[shy lark]

is Flesh and Steel the one with the probator? I recall it being good

[runic root]

Its not that bad. The beginning isna bit slow but at the end i really enjoyed it. Far more than Gate of bones at least.

Fucking costodes gets oneshot by an mini knight walker...

[runic root]

There is a probator in every Warhammer crime book. They are the 40k equivalent of a criminal detective. The arbites handle the pickpockets and rioters. The probator catches serial killers and in absence of the Inquisition, investigates cults and heretics.

[severe trail]

Yeah, it’s the one with the rich one

[severe trail]

Not every warhammer crime book

Just a lot of them

[runic root]

Speaking about Warhammer crime, i liked "a grim repast".

[simple cloud]

Lmao he’s just an annoying cameo in HH books

[runic root]

Happiest moment was when he got suckerpunched by loken in a sparring match.

"just get in there and stop shaming us,’ Aximand hissed. He looked over at Lucius, who was wiping his torso down with a cloth. ‘You ready for another, Lucius?’

‘Bring it on.’

‘He’s mad,’ Loken whispered.

‘Legion honour,’ Abaddon muttered back, pushing Loken forward.

‘That’s right,’ crowed Lucius. ‘Anyway you want me. Show me how a Luna Wolf fights, Loken. Show me how you win.’

‘It’s not just about the blade,’ Loken said.

‘However you want it,’ Lucius snorted.

Erebus stood up from the corner of the platform and tossed his blade to Loken. ‘It sounds like it’s your turn, Garviel,’ he said.

Loken caught the sword, and tested it through the air, back and forth. He stepped up into the cage and nodded. The hemispheres of bars closed around him and Lucius. Lucius spat and shook out his shoulders. He turned his sword and began to dance around Loken.

‘I’m no swordsman,’ Loken said.

‘Then this will be over quickly.’

‘If we spar, it won’t be just about the blade.’

‘Whatever, whatever,’ Lucius called, jumping back and forth. ‘Just get on and fight me.’

Loken sighed. ‘I’ve been watching you, of course, the attacking strokes. I can read you.’

‘You wish.’

‘I can read you. Come for me.’

Lucius lunged at Loken. Loken side-stepped, blade down, and punched Lucius in the face. Lucius fell on his back, hard.

Loken dropped Erebus’s sword onto the mat. ‘I think I made my point. That’s how a Luna Wolf fights. Understand your foe and do whatever is necessary to bring him down. Sorry, Lucius.’

Spitting blood, Lucius’s response was incoherent."

• get wrecked, nerd.

[tall phoenix]

DO NOT FUCKING READ WOLFTIME

Literally one of THE worst books in the Dawn of Fire series (and thats saying a lot for such a mid series)

we had like 2-3 people here actually drop the book from how boring it was

[shy lark]

Now I'm more interested

But I remembered I haven't gotten through vaults of terra

[cerulean peak]

Vaults of terra is boring

1st book is good; 2nd is a snooze fest; 3rd second half finally have something happening

[shy lark]

So it may be, but I don't have to buy anything new

[cerulean peak]

This one was nice

[tall phoenix]

NOOOOO

[shy lark]

I don't know, my man is just sitting in dark rooms drinking wine with drugs so far

I do the same without drugs but still

[simple cloud]

Got it Dilara reading asap

[tall phoenix]

I mean if you wanna torture yourself you do that

[cerulean peak]

Nothing happens for a book and a half

[tall phoenix]

thats Book 3!!!

[cerulean peak]

I don't remember book 2 lol

They're searching for ||crowe|| right?

[unborn merlin]

Sounds like a riveting series.

[cerulean peak]

It has good and bad moments

Like most BL series

I would still recommend the read tho

[tall phoenix]

thats Book 3

you fucking dingus LOL

Book 2 is them dealing with the astronomican

[cerulean peak]

Ohhh shiitt

Yea

Ok nvm

Book 3 was the drag the

Until they leave terra

[tall phoenix]

Yea I LOVE Book 1 and 2

3 is just straight downhill

also has my favorite warhammer trope next to "mcguffin gets destroyed"

[cerulean peak]

Yet somehow the ||fabricator general survives the fuckfest||

Gorgias was based

[tall phoenix]

He was the best part of these novels

[royal egret]

40k fans: we don’t want bolter porn, we want cool writing and in depth interesting characters!

Writers making books with focus on backstory and slower burn less flashy stuff and building atmosphere

Fans: Boring! Where bolter porn?!

[cerulean peak]

Bruh i hate bolter porn

Tbh that was on me

[royal egret]

It is, you should feel bad for your bad and wrong opinion

[cerulean peak]

I was misremembering the first half of the third book for being the majority of the trilogy's plot

[royal egret]

Commence summary self flagellation and perhaps your soul can still be saved

[cerulean peak]

Brb, necking myself

[tall phoenix]

It was more just literally nothing happens

the lack of bolterporn doesnt excuse bad writing ye numpty

take your wet leopard growls elsewhere

[royal egret]

It’s not nothing, you’re getting to explore Terra and its systems

It’s great

[tall phoenix]

Not that dipshit

he means Book 3

where literally nothing happens

it was pretty weird

[royal egret]

I dunno I can’t recall all the stuff for each book but I remember stuff happening, it’s been a minute though.

Also he said 2nd is a snooze fest

People just don’t like culture

[tall phoenix]

Nah he mixed em up we talked about it above

[cerulean peak]

Yea but afterwards i ackowledged misremembering the events of book 3 starting during book 2 (which was wrong on my part)

[tall phoenix]

^

Book 3 is literally like, okay so

[royal egret]

Hmm

[tall phoenix]

fuck around in base

fuck around on the moon

fuck around in a pocket dimension on comorragh

everyone dies

💀

[royal egret]

Still not forgiven for forgetting the peak that is book 2

[cerulean peak]

Once they get to the moon it's more interesting

[tall phoenix]

I relaly wish the series stuck the landing

Also yeee i do love tho like

how they just find Crowe wandering around lol

since I THINK its just after Magnussy's invasion???

[cerulean peak]

I have read so much slop since then. It's polluting my thoughts (and i'm dead tired)

[royal egret]

I think it’s all before

[tall phoenix]

thats the average reaction with BL

[tall phoenix]

also yeah its like circa

[royal egret]

Just read the good books and don’t read the bad

[tall phoenix]

they do mention shit was going down on Luna or is about to or something, its a bit weird

[cerulean peak]

Right after or during. There was also that khornate invasion on terra

[royal egret]

It’s not hard

[tall phoenix]

THAT was post yeah

because they rae there RIGHT as the Rift is opening

the sense of doom leading up to that is peak!!!

also gas your teammates NOW

🫵

[royal egret]

Yeah the Rift Opening was months before the Terran Crusade got to the moon

And fought a wizard on it

[tall phoenix]

Yeeee that

[tidal hazel]

Night lords trilogy books 3 spoilers

||Cyrion you lying son of a bitch||

[hybrid turtle]

Really had to end the book by making him the worst lol

[tidal hazel]

||and yep talos dies. Super super cool of @tall phoenix to spoil that before I could even start the book. Really takes the wind out of the whole trilogy||

[tidal hazel]

||I thought it was fitting. He is a night lord after all and it redeemed uzas a bit. Plus it was cool the author looped back around to a prophecy from the first book||

[reef nacelle]

||ADB making me feel things about a mass murderer that wears the skin and skulls of his victims as trophies||

[tidal hazel]

Very happy looking at the number of Horus Heresy books he wrote. I’m buying a kindle solely because so much of the series is out of print

[reef nacelle]

Quality Author, shame he's stopped writing for the Black library

[drowsy urchin]

ADB? He didn't though

at least as a freelancer, think he had two releases for them last year and we know at least the last SoT Anthology has one of his novellas in it coming this year

Sorry, was thinking about 2022 releases, time does fly

[unborn merlin]

Super hyped for the ADB short story.

The dude is a notoriously slow writer but everything he touches is gold so I don't mind.

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-its-okay-rocky-you-go-when-you-feel-like-it-gif-21084732

[drowsy urchin]

well it should be done by now. The physical print of the book was leaked last summer

[royal egret]

He’s like creative lead now for BL

But he has issues with writing for awhile, and kinda always did

Just gotten worse, idk if we’ll ever see another novel from him for BL. Black Legion book 3 has been rumored for so long

[drowsy urchin]

any day now....

[tawdry crane]

Never thought id be excited about ordering a book

[deft bramble]

finished Day of Ascention, and i have a question
||do tyranids eat all these jinsteelers after they arrive on planets? do genestilers feel joy while being eaten alive?||

[reef nacelle]

||Yes, they put them in the digestion pools but right before they drop, the hivemind removes it's influence and the reality of their situation kicks in||

[deft bramble]

lmao get fucked

[wise yew]

as bear says that happens but sometimes they let them go to continue corrupting more worlds

Sometimes the hive mind just thinks that he can use these guys a little bit longer

[deft bramble]

btw the ending was quite obvious

but because i already kinda knew what gienstolers are

the concept

still a good book

[celest heron]

That seems like a waste of time

[tall phoenix]

Its not really a waste

the planet is ripe for conquest

theres a rule in the GSC codex literally named "plan generations in the making"

[tall phoenix]

Also yeah going into the book you are suppose to know whats gonna happen, its more about the journey and exploring the POV of the cult itself

||also ending with the showcase that the protagonist is gonna spread the infection elsewhere||

[reef nacelle]

Happens to all tyranids when they're done with the planet. Everyone jumps in the pool

[tall phoenix]

Yeah then it gets recycled.

they dont evaporate to nothing

[deft bramble]

jumping with 5 saltos and a barrel-roll into acid, and right before it they realize the truth

so fucking funny

[celest heron]

I meant shutting off the hive mind

[reef nacelle]

Maybe it's a more pleasant experience to shut off those about to be digested, maybe the hivemind is a troll. Maybe both

[deft bramble]

is there a book that describes this feeling of loosing these angel voices before jumping into the pool?

[random marlin]

I found it interesting that I ended up ||empathizing more with the GSC characters than with the Adeptus Mechanicus ones.||

Also, the short story The Sum of Its Parts, which follows the various "lives" of a Leman Russ has an interesting perspective on this when ||the Leman Russ ends up in the hands of a Genestealer Cult crew with one of the crew member suddenly realizing what is really going on||.

Can't recommend this short story enough, with such a simple premise, it really explores a lot of themes and ideas.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/88565281-the-sum-of-its-parts

[deft bramble]

ill check it out thanks

[tall phoenix]

They dont always "realise"

some willingly jump in constantly believing their creed lol

[tall phoenix]

To be fair considering how awful the Imperium is its not super surprising imo

guys are literaly the worst of the worst

theres a reason chaos and genestealer cults thrive in the imperium

[deft bramble]

but most do? at least half? cause its so funny i want it to be true

[random marlin]

Deathworlder shows a variety of possible situations about that, yes.

[tall phoenix]

It depends, theres no reason to real percentage

[random marlin]

Could be another good read for you @deft bramble

[deft bramble]

fuck, no translation...

ugh

i dont want to read it all in english 😭

[tall phoenix]

you will

[deft bramble]

im to used to not making my brain boil while trying to undertand latin letters

[tall phoenix]

either capitulate or be destroyed

[deft bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/burning-elf-elf-light-fire-looking-into-light-gif-21174314

[hard star]

Any books about adeptus mechanicus that i should read

[reef nacelle]

Forges of Mars series

Brutal Kunnin' (Ork book) has a good chunk of Mechanicus in it too

[pure sorrel]

what book would you recommend getting if your an adeptus mechanicus fan

[shy lark]

the intro of baneblade

Check the pins though, there's some recommendations in there

[royal egret]

Dominion Genesis

And the others people said

[severe trail]

Dominion Genesis

[hard star]

is there any books that is heavily focused on adeptus mechanicus?

or just straight up focuses only on adeptus

its lore, etc.

[severe trail]

Dominion Genesis is almost entirely admech

[hard star]

ahh

whats it about tho

[severe trail]

It’s about a tech priests faith being questioned

[hard star]

just in a nutshell

[severe trail]

Lemme grab the synopsis

[hard star]

ahh

thats interesting

[severe trail]

Gryphonne IV is dead – one of the mightiest forge worlds in the arsenal of the Adeptus Mechanicus, succumbed to the relentless hunger of Hive Fleet Leviathan. Devoured. Lost.

The few magi that survive drift in idleness, robbed of purpose and direction. But there is one who rejects that fate.

[hard star]

oh i might get it then

thanks!

[severe trail]

THE STORY
Explorator Talin Sherax seeks ancient and miraculous technologies from humanity’s distant past. When she learns of a fabled relic that could restore all that has been lost, Sherax embarks on a journey, the outcome of which could change everything. Nothing will stand in her way… even if the quest brings her to the brink of heresy.

Forge of mars trilogy also good

its a lot of admech stuff in it

[hard star]

which book should i get

that gives me lore drops

like its origins, etc

[severe trail]

Uh

[hard star]

im assuming forge of mars

[severe trail]

the adeptus mechanicus codex rule book

from 8e

[hard star]

damn

[severe trail]

if you want foundational lore

[hard star]

i'll just get the two books

[slow pumice]

Hi!
Question, is there any books related to the age of apostasy?
Because well, i enjoy the videos related to it, but i want to read the source on my own.

[simple cloud]

Before answers trickle in, broadly unexplored but it would be SUCH a fun setting

[royal egret]

Lord Solar Macharius trilogy

And that’s about it I think

[tall phoenix]

I mean even that barely explores it

as per the name lol

but yeah theres no book that really gets into the Apostasy since its very clear-cut.

[safe plover]

bros... deathfire has the same problem as every other book

dad broken
should we fuck off in random directions or take him to the emperor which ||we know is alive now since we got a massage from dorn||?

[drowsy urchin]

Have you considered travel time

[safe plover]

i have I am going to fix 31k myself

i will simply be that guy

guys take him to the emperor
necrons giving you a hard time? use the fucking forbidden machine spirit killer gun you have yes i know it exists
maybe we shouldnt have murderdeathorgies?

[drowsy urchin]

how about the fixing part

[safe plover]

fixing what?

[tall phoenix]

[safe plover]

oh

im only at like chap 54

[drowsy urchin]

you said you're going to fix 30k

I've not read Salamander books, so it didn't refer to anything happening in that book you're reading specifically

[safe plover]

i thought you were referencing something that happens latter

ill fix everything dont worry

[drowsy urchin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1263278871651024898/1328745094114836500/salvation_gif.gif

[unborn merlin]

I will never forgive the Salamanders books for what they did to ||Shadrak.||

[safe plover]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAA ITS BEEN 66 CHAPTERS WHY HASNT VULKAN WOKEN UP YET

IS THE POINT OF THE BOOK TO MAKE ME SUFFER LIKE THE SALAMANDERS

[tall phoenix]

Its because the book is bad.

Accept the truth

[safe plover]

NOOOOO WITH DELUSION, FAITH AND BLIND WILL I SHOUT
THE BOOK IS GOOD

i skipped to the end of chapter 67 ||all i fucking got was "my sons"||

i cant i need a break from horus heresy

i got baited for 67 chapters

@tall phoenix i kneel please recommend me something good for the weekend

not 30k

anything good

[tall phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-bill-pai-mei-beard-no-nope-gif-4537088

Foolish.

Suffer the consequences you arrogantly reaped

[safe plover]

WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT

[royal egret]

Should have skipped it

Your arrogance led you here

Now you must live with your choices

[tall phoenix]

^

When even this man tells you that you should have skipped a book you know you fucked up.

The council warned you, and you did not heed us, suffer forevermore.

[safe plover]

i shall read the souldrinkers omnibus as penance

ok maybe the first book

[royal egret]

Tbh Soul Drinkers is wacky but fun

It’s not dull that’s for sure

[brittle tapir]

fuck you i love soul drinkers

i will cause immediate death

[royal egret]

I didn’t say they were bad

[brittle tapir]

not you

[safe plover]

ayo i said i was reading it as penance

[brittle tapir]

im talking to the shark WHO CANT CLIP HIS PFP CORRECTLY

ah nvm then

i thought you meant as punishment

[safe plover]

nah ive been punished enough

67 chapters.....

i swear to god that book is meant to make the reader feel like the salamanders

[brittle tapir]

i recommend only getting the first soul drinkers omnibus

the second one fizzles out a bit

[safe plover]

theres a second one?

[brittle tapir]

yeah

[safe plover]

yeah i didnt know

[brittle tapir]

the first 3-4 books are S tier imo

very fun space adventure

[safe plover]

what about the first first book?

[brittle tapir]

yeah i meant the first of the 4 books

1,2,3,4

[safe plover]

how is it?

[brittle tapir]

the first is great

slow burning

explodes violently

ben counter at his best

[safe plover]

is it hard or easy to kepe up with?

[brittle tapir]

the story is straightforward

second book is when more perspectives are introduced

[safe plover]

okie ill prolly start tomorrow or the weekend

[brittle tapir]

it's basically space marine violence pron

in a good way

[safe plover]

any cool librarian action?

[royal egret]

Pretty unique use of his powers

[brittle tapir]

occasionally but the story tends to find reasons to nerf him a bit

his powers i mean

but he does kick ass with his staff

[cerulean peak]

The series features many librarians

Like jay said, the second omnibus is weaker but gets better at the end

Also, based admech

[cerulean peak]

Sarpedon is the muscle mage archetype

[severe trail]

Tbf

Most space marines are

[tall phoenix]

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/1icgtba/nospoiler_book_review_leontus_lord_solar/

[deft bramble]

What is the good book about Catachan?

[random marlin]

Deathworlder, I guess?

[tall phoenix]

and maybe Catachan Devil?

a lot of Catachan novels are either very old or kinda whatever lol

[wise yew]

Deathworlder is if it remember is the warhammer trope of, they come looking for a weird ass mcguffin

so do expect it to be on the generic side

[tall phoenix]

Yeah its not the best book out there

[deft bramble]

So no good books