Should be redone haha
#40k-book-club
tall phoenix
He should know just like with any ideology religion can be used for good/bad means tbh.
But ironically adds to his dumbassness in 30k
celest heron
Yeah tbh his views on religon are dumb
tall phoenix
considering he was probably the canonical founder of r/atheist in the 21st century its more than likely
simple cloud
Emperor among us modding 45 discords w his mind
… from turkey
… likes gold
… aggressive
tall phoenix
the Emperor is Erdoğan???
simple cloud
severe trail
the Emperor is Erdoğan???
wise yew
the Emperor is Erdoğan???
Why do you think he's such a good tyrant
tall phoenix
true...
safe plover
🚬
royal egret
And that Swallow should stop writing
(He won’t)
It does have some good moments though
safe plover
i liked the bits in ulanor and melchior
royal egret
The Meros stuff was kinda interesting but I dunno
Not executed as well as it could have been
The part with the planet turning evil is fun
safe plover
ye
royal egret
Bad day to be anyone in the entire system
safe plover
idk i expected more sangui stuff i guess its kinda short overall and theres a bunch of chapters that could have been skipped
royal egret
But the slow build of “something is off” until it finally happens is neat
safe plover
i feel like it could have been a great short story
i would be much remissed if i didnt point out you said it was all bad then "that part is neat"
so clearly its not all bad...
tall phoenix
i like the parts with sangui but hate everything else tbh
Also the only correct review
also Kabanana wasnt too bad
safe plover
🚬 soon kino starts any day now
cerulean peak
weird way to spell *Kyme
You mean Thorpe?
tall phoenix
Thorpe is fine
I wish he stopped writing sometimes but hes whatever
Kyme should simply stop
tall phoenix
Literally unreadable
tidal hazel
How do y’all prefer to get/read your books. So far I prefer physical but some just aren’t available in paperback or are weirdly like $200-400.
I’ll likely go the e-reader route do y’all have any recommendations. A kindle is a consideration but I haven’t checked if they’re black library ebook compatible
deft bramble
i buy them from the blu-ray disc store and read on my phone
tall phoenix
I literally just get an epub and read it on any random epub reader on my phone tbh.
Way too lazy to get/wait for a physical order especially since BL doesnt work in my country for whatever reason
safe plover
@tall phoenix do u have two accounts or do you turn into a werewolf at night?
tall phoenix
No I just get my friend to buy them for me and pay them back through paypal as they share the epubs with me lol
I literally got no other choice
safe plover
im asking because you have two different pfps
runic root
How do y’all prefer to get/read your books. So far I prefer physical but some ju...
I use the free ebook reader calibre on my lenovo legion
The eBooks i buy and download directly from the black library
But i might consider downloadig a free epub reader for my phone. Recommendations?
mellow knot
For those of you who might be keen on such an opportunity:
safe plover
you dont know?
yes im asking why
safe plover
For those of you who might be keen on such an opportunity:
https://www.warhamme...
im gonna write malum and titus fanfiction and submit it idc
tall phoenix
yes im asking why
Shut
surreal vector
Currently reading helsreach and goddamn
Overwhelming odds, giant robots fighting, urban combat, brotherhood, speeches, heroism
Literally the male fantasy
Jurisian would occasionally pause and examine some of the Mechanicus’s abandoned technology.
‘This is a magnetic field stabiliser housing,’ he said at one point, walking around what looked to Cyria like an oversized tank engine as big as a Chimera APC.
‘What does it do?’ she made the mistake of asking.
‘It houses the stabilisers for a magnetic field generator.’
royal egret
<@&735928989146939404>
surreal vector
Someone's got their account hacked
proud drift
For those of you who might be keen on such an opportunity:
https://www.warhamme...
🤔
thanks for the link!
royal egret
I’m trying to figure out which characters fit within the stipulations that I’d like to write
safe plover
I’m trying to figure out which characters fit within the stipulations that I’d l...
you wanna write about typhus and kharn having an argument on whos primarch sucks most
royal egret
It would be fun to write a fight between them
While they talk
No shot Kharn doesn’t just W key at him
Idk where they both at Vigilus?
That actually might be a fun one
Typhus doesn’t get enough appearances
royal egret
They both talk fine
Kharn just doesn’t care to much
He’s lucid he just doesn’t care to not attack
woven mulch
I cannot get enough of ciaphus cain
"I looked at the muffin, and then all the piece came into place.
'Let's go to the lord general' I said
'Very good, sir' My aid replied as always.
If I knew what would happen down there, I should have stayed back on the ground, dancing with the carnifex."
safe plover
im thinking of skipping "The Outcast Dead"
I read a general plot summery and idk doesnt feel worth it
safe plover
is it good, good or "good"
safe plover
i think ill just listen to a 2 hour summery on youtube instead of getting it tbh
tall phoenix
fair tbh
deft bramble
from which book can i read about daemonculaba?
celest heron
from which book can i read about daemonculaba?
Think its one of the ultramarines books
Dead sky, black sun
deft bramble
thx
runic root
Currently reading story number 2 of tales of heresy, Wolf at the door, by Mike Lee, and it feels like the epitome of your average bolter porn, great crusade flavored
runic root
I chuckled when the wolf Lord threw the eldar leader into the energy core. "Fuck this eloquent sword fight. Time for WWE" 😂😂😂
tall phoenix
that too I suppose 
I more liked it when they go through all that effort and we end up with "Okay they arent joining, kill em all."
runic root
I more liked it when they go through all that effort and we end up with "Okay th...
Peak grimdark. He even reasoned this to one of his subordinates earlier in the story. If their little eldar killing spree helps this planet join without further bloodshed, even better. Gotta get rid of the xenos at any point anyways. But even if it doesnt sway the planet in their favor, they are here to do a job and the crusade musnt stop. Respectable. Cruel, but respectable
runic root
Its not really respectable but yeah
In my eyes it is. Peace was never an Option anyway with the Imperium and freedom is overrated
tall phoenix
In my eyes it is. Peace was never an Option anyway with the Imperium and freedom...
Its way easier to say this when its not your house being airstriked by space marines to be fair.
bombakla-
simple cloud
from which book can i read about daemonculaba?
tall phoenix
FYI its like a few pages of goreporn
deft bramble
good
tall phoenix
its gross but extremely overblown by the fandom
deft bramble
thats what im for
tall phoenix
sick bastard
deft bramble
this is just like with the Metamorphosis hentai manga
tall phoenix
Die
deft bramble
i see memes about it everywhere, and i just want to know why people talk about it
celest heron
If youve read enough degenerate hentai the concept exists
tall phoenix
its literally bloated meatwomen with proto-space marines ripping out of them before they are stapled back up
thats it
lol
deft bramble
yeah i know, ive watched leutin
tall phoenix
deft bramble
fucking english
celest heron
yeah i know, ive watched leutin
Broodmother in dragon age is a good example of the concept
royal egret
It’s not even the worst part of the book is the funny thing to me
celest heron
tall phoenix
Yeah its just "haha gore"
royal egret
The skin fields were worse imo
tall phoenix
like ive read way worse shit
celest heron
The skin fields were worse imo
Was just about to say
deft bramble
yeah i know, repeat 100 more times
celest heron
The best part is they come out skinless
Making me think of skeleton mam
And his nemesis skin man
deft bramble
is the book describing it good
deft bramble
are there multiple books
celest heron
Rip skinless marine
tall phoenix
its a good meme of Ventris being a happy go lucky dickhead
then he goes on this one adventure
and is like
omega-traumatized
deft bramble
om iye ga
tall phoenix
are there multiple books
Yeah but kinda old
safe plover
https://tenor.com/view/pings-off-reply-pings-off-reply-ping-discord-reply-ping-g...
this will never be seen
deft bramble
bruh
safe plover
https://tenor.com/view/pings-off-reply-pings-off-reply-ping-discord-reply-ping-g...
this will be
deft bramble
this will be
i hope you get daemonculaba'd irl
tall phoenix
bruh
deft bramble
in game
safe plover
its ok dilara is chill she wont ban you for breaking the rules
||just for saying stuff she disagrees with||
deft bramble
i need to just block you
tall phoenix
LMAO
tall phoenix
||just for saying stuff she disagrees with||
ive never done that bruh 😭
deft bramble
some people just cant help themselves but to be fucking annoying for no reason
safe plover
i guarentee you i have enough shit takes to make that a reality 
the heresy is far form over
tall phoenix
When is my next scheduled eternal/jerk/legion cagematch
celest heron
On Mpreg Monday
tall phoenix
This is for all the times you complained this place is boring
safe plover
🚬 when i read/listen to another slop book
🚬 am i not allowed to hate ONE book out like 50??
tall phoenix
30k has a good bit of mid books the problem is you always hate the actually good ones.
Well also one of your opponents is a space marine fanboy
safe plover
😠 i only really disliked legion
tall phoenix
For like the most dumb reasons!!!
safe plover
other stuff is "ok" to good to great
tall phoenix
Yeah that sums it up well
cerulean peak
I like the shark dude. Even if his opinions are mid
safe plover
For like the most dumb reasons!!!
dont act like you dont agree with me
cerulean peak
😉
tall phoenix
For the sake of being an observer my lawyers told me to not comment on this matter.
✋
safe plover
how is legion so far?
tall phoenix
Aside from the Cuntshartuals its pretty good
safe plover
For the sake of being an observer my lawyers told me to not comment on this matt...
its ok ill keep fighting the good "ok" fight 🫡
tall phoenix
🫡
safe plover
god i cant stop saying ok like oo-kaay because of oll
tall phoenix
He is greek
safe plover
eh with preptuals can they really be anything?
im sure hes lived outside of greece for longer than it existed
tall phoenix
I know im just being racist 🇹🇷
severe trail
also if you want homosexual go look up oil wrestling
tall phoenix
Hakan my beloved
tall phoenix
Based Turk
tall phoenix
Based tbh
Im trying to remember what 40k book was ever so bad that I never finished it.
simple cloud
Based Turk
Turks are genetically based but u have learned 2 b cringe
Nature vs nurture
safe plover
I know im just being racist 🇹🇷
you cant be racist were the same race
severe trail
Capcom still has not told us why his Olive oil turns him red
safe plover
literally the same
tall phoenix
you cant be racist were the same race
Xenophobia babyyyy
safe plover
the exact same
severe trail
you cant be racist were the same race
You say that like that’s stopped people before
tall phoenix
^^^^^^^^
severe trail
Wrong image
runic root
Im trying to remember what 40k book was ever so bad that I never finished it.
For me that was almost mechanicum. Idk, something about that book just made me hate reading it
runic root
legion
Legion was just plain edgy/cringe. Like everything with the fucking alpha legion in it. Fucking Kindergarten dolts.... Oh, look at meee, i am alpharius.... 🙄🤦🏻
safe plover
were friends now
tall phoenix
For me that was almost mechanicum. Idk, something about that book just made me h...
noooo Mechanicoom was good!
GUH-
tall phoenix
Okay actually ill say this
if you actually wanna read about admech in general its peak
if not yeah i get it lmao
celest heron
Legion was just plain edgy/cringe. Like everything with the fucking alpha legion...
Nuh Uh -Source: someone who hasnt read a single 30k book
tall phoenix
you could have at least said: "It has admech in the title so its automatically good"
celest heron
Admechs are dragon worshippers
severe trail
you could have at least said: "It has admech in the title so its automatically g...
I’m not that baised
celest heron
Disgustang
severe trail
Admechs are dragon worshippers
Untrue smh
celest heron
On god theres a dragon on mars, and they worship the emperor because he sealed away the dragon.
And since the emperor is clearly just 100 dragons in a trenchcoat
cerulean peak
how is legion so far?
I had to stop the read due to the mold
Thanks sharkman
I need to find a replacement
Meanwhile i've started mechanicum
(You really should read Legion past it's first chapter)
shy lark
But consider, it starts with saying you're wasting your time for reading it
simple cloud
noooo Mechanicoom was good!
The Turk speaks true
tall phoenix
brittle tapir
https://tenor.com/view/miber-gif-4686180834649124645
im so glad they made the darkest dungeon guy real
severe trail
im so glad they made the darkest dungeon guy real
safe plover
dont start with the reddit allegations not the time or the place
royal egret
“Allegations”
royal egret
“Taking what he said and posting it”
I hate it when my enemies quote what I said verbatim
tall phoenix
Bro hes literally a nazi 💀
also like, forgetting that even-
GW themselves asked him to cease
💀
severe trail
He's also just racist and sexisst
tall phoenix
^
safe plover
what did he say
royal egret
Worse, he has terrible lore videos
severe trail
tall phoenix
Say?
severe trail
my brother in christ
tall phoenix
He outright admitted it lol
safe plover
eh no one else is making summeries
royal egret
You can probably find some online summary of it all
severe trail
Actually wait can I even post it @tall phoenix
tall phoenix
Sure lol
royal egret
Although the person doing it will probably be insufferable
tall phoenix
The gnoblar video had him literall refer to the goblins as "house (n-words)" which is like why
he even laughs after it 💀
royal egret
And once again, that’s not even the worst thing he’s done or said
severe trail
I'll just grab the tweet
whatever
Anyways yeah
N word btw
oh my god
he delisted all his political videos
LMFAO
Coward
royal egret
He basically just reads the fandom page
severe trail
I have 0 clue how the fuck he did that
safe plover
vraks and sabat crusades are a mess
severe trail
Vraks is pretty succinct
its like 3 Imperial armor books worth of content
simple as
royal egret
You literally just have to read the book and summarize it a little bit
Sabbat is a little different because it’s spread out over other sources and it’s changed a bit but even that you can do similar things
severe trail
alright I think I've polluted my search history enough
lol
also his discord messages
but I don't want to post tose
tall phoenix
my favorite is people asking
"where can I read these"
"oh they are out of order"
me:
"go read the wiki its all copy pasted lol"
royal egret
What they mean is
“Google this for me I’m a lazy piece of shit”
“I probably still bring my laundry to my moms house”
tall phoenix
tall rover
"oh they are out of order"
also that is me
didnt look hard enough for a quote, turns out it was the first page of google
whoops
shy lark
it's easier if mother does it
royal egret
how you do laundry at your mothers house
You’re not enough of a loser clearly
But yeah some people do
deft bramble
are books about Votann good? if there are any at least?
drowsy urchin
🙏 arch my beloved
Posting Arch should be a bannable offence
Literal shit stain on the community
runic root
But yeah some people do
My mother has shrunk one of my favorite hoodies once when i was a teen. Never giving her my laundry again anyway lol. Moved out 7 years ago, no intention of moving back in, i can do my laundry myself, thank you lol
tall rover
You’re not enough of a loser clearly
sorry i said this when i was black out wasted
i do sometimes take laundry to my mothers house
tall phoenix
Kill him Daniel
tall phoenix
are books about Votann good? if there are any at least?
They only got ONE atm that just came out.
Its pretty mid but you can try and read it i guess
tall rover
Kill him Daniel
deft bramble
They only got **ONE** atm that just came out.
i see, thx
are there books about ogryns?
tall phoenix
Not "books" persay but theres a great one with a ratling/ogryn protagonist, Wraithbone Phoenix
they also got an Audio Drama about them Dredgerunners
deft bramble
they also got an Audio Drama about them Dredgerunners
Dreg gunners???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
tall phoenix
NO
digital summit
Hi, which book is about the return of guilliman ?
tall phoenix
Its rulebooks, Gathering Storm: Rise of the Primarch
safe plover
i think plague wars pick up directly after if thats relevant?
oh yeah pleague wars/dark imperium also call back some things that happened then
royal egret
Dark Imperium leads into Plague Wars yeah
Or sorry Gathering Storm leads into those
Gathering Storm -> Dark Imperium -> Plague Wars -> Godblight
safe plover
i heard a lot of good things about them but im like at least 4 years away from ever getitng that far 🚬
tall phoenix
Gathering Storm is pretty good as far as Rulebook lore goes, it was pretty setting-changing stuff at the time.
Dark Imperium/Plague Wars is extremely mid with a few good bits sprinkled in between.
cerulean peak
like the novamarines space anxiety?
tall phoenix
Lmao yeah
Plague Wars/Dark Imperium has a lot of good stuff but its just so riddled with sloggy bits.
safe plover
i cant play SM2 after listening to so much HH era ultra marines
im gonna be starting every single sentence with THEORATICAL/PRACTICAL
cerulean peak
Plague Wars/Dark Imperium has a lot of good stuff but its just **so** riddled wi...
You also go from finely written mortarion from lords of silence to manchild perturabo-tier mortarion
tall phoenix
LEGIT
Honestly tho Morty is a bad character so i like him being childish, hes so funny
simple cloud
Hi, which book is about the return of guilliman ?
Inquisitor; Ian Watson
digital summit
thanks 👍👍
simple cloud
Inquisitor; Ian Watson
This was joke. But really Dark Imperium and Plague Wars and then the gathering storm books.
simple cloud
Dark Imperium/Plague Wars is extremely mid with a few good bits sprinkled in bet...
Ok yes this is true. Idk what to add lmao
Except I guess the one good thing is these plus the Lion book are the “present”
In the setting
I haven’t read any of the Dawn of Fire books. Those… start prior to Plague Wars?
tall phoenix
Ok yes this is true. Idk what to add lmao
It extremely suffers from "We gotta advertise New 40k/Primaris"
it feels more like a trilogy of product placements than an actual series lol
safe plover
The Unremembered Empire is good so far
i take it back
this is kino
||G man has a fucking meltdown when he realizes his computer is broken||
safe plover
https://tenor.com/view/half-life-half-life-2-half-life-alyx-gman-mad-gif-1197834...
what
oh
cmon
Gman is guilliman
simple cloud
i disagree
Actually I don’t remember shit from legion except some slightly annoying John grammaticus shenanigans and that it becomes an episode of x files in the end
I say this as a loyal johnny g fan
wintry blade
Is there a sequel to Flesh and Steel by Guy Haley?
severe trail
Is there a sequel to Flesh and Steel by Guy Haley?
no unfortunately
cerulean peak
You WILL enjoy the bolter porn
simple cloud
Broke: y so much bolter porn it has no literary value
Woke: The Iliad is 14 hours of Bronze Age bolter porn
runic root
You WILL enjoy the bolter porn
I actually do. Never understood the communites aversion with bolter porn. As long as it is decently written, i dont mind. Heretics and xenos need killing. Might as well give me a front row seat while it happens
tall phoenix
I actually do. Never understood the communites aversion with bolter porn. As lon...
Thats the problem
90% of the time its not well written.
hence why the term even exists
Its not that hard to understand or get.
deft bramble
what is bolter p*rn? 😳
tall phoenix
Basically aimless boring action scenes for up to 7-10 pages where its just repetitive descriptions of space marines killing stuff in a boring manner.
deft bramble
ohhhhh(((( i thought its just space marines playing with bolters like dolls and doing lewd stuff 
tall phoenix
safe plover
unremembered empire is really good
deft bramble
i wish someone would make series about Eisenhorn, Abbnett is good at describing stuff, especially clothes and armor, and i thought it would be easier to show them with these descriptions
simple cloud
i wish someone would make series about Eisenhorn, Abbnett is good at describing ...
Eisenhorn series has been on off rumor forever
Warhammer+ did mini Eisenhorn at Home w Interrogator
There was even a terrible qte cinematic video game of Xenos
simple cloud
simple cloud
really liked it
Yes it’s very good
Imagine taking the sound and redoing the animation at high budget
To be a little more granular and critical it does suffer when stitched together from an obvious episodic arrangement
Each episode has its little mini denouement and it detracts slightly from the flow
But you know then again the same is true for Dickens novels so
royal egret
Yeah I was always hoping it would get jazzed up some
But maybe we’ll get something as time goes on
Eisenhorn being adapted is inevitable
simple cloud
Apropos of nothing I’ve been rereading some Dune and have finally started Hyperion and I gotta say like
The best 40k is actually really good sci fi
Abnett and Wraight at their best can stand up to “serious” lit imho
It helps that the fucking Brits are just good at English
Despite appropriating it from its native speakers, Americans.
royal egret
I feel like I’m having a stroke
simple cloud
Do u smell burnt toast
royal egret
No just oranges so I’m good I think
tall phoenix
To be a little more granular and critical it does suffer when stitched together ...
Yeah its much better to sit down and watch its movie format that WH+ also uploaded awhile later i think
i remember watching it with the episodic format and man it dragged
simple cloud
Yeah its much better to sit down and watch its movie format that WH+ also upload...
Def. I mean you can still feel the episode structure when watching the movie. Like maybe a bit of an editing pass.
I think it’s great material.
Like that plus the secret level episode — pretty good intro to 40k
deft bramble
well... when i was watching it, i thought it all was just like:
City is poor and dirty... rain never stops... i see my companion:
-You drunk bastard... - he greeted me
-And you are bald bastard...
and every episode is just like this
tall phoenix
simple cloud
and every episode is just like this
-Bro has discovered adult life
simple cloud
Oh boy
I was attempting to make a joke that real life is living in a dirty city w assholes and being drunk/bald + doing the same thing over and over
deft bramble
im not against city being dirty and poor
im bored because when every time characters open their mouths, i know what they are going to say
deft bramble
Stop ruining my fun!!!!
BALD
tall phoenix
deft bramble
anyway its better than thesis so... im satisfied
simple cloud
im bored because when every time characters open their mouths, i know what they ...
Not invalid
safe plover
im bored because when every time characters open their mouths, i know what they ...
you have consumed too much media
i have that issue with hollywood slop
i have a very hard time watching anything made by americans
deft bramble
you have consumed too much media
wtf are you talking about... fuck no i have not
doctors came out, trying to diagnose me
karkin hell
deft bramble
well if you have red what we were talking about, you would know we were talking about the Interrogator series
and only that
safe plover
if you can predict whats gonna happen in a show/book either its badly written or you have consumed too much similar stuff
deft bramble
ffs
i have CONSUMED only a few episodes of the series, and was afraid if others would be just like those
and they were
the CONTENT that i CONSUMED was not so LOWKEY SKIBIDI as i thought at the start
alright ill stop
oak pollen
bro made the classic mistake of not taking off his helmet
simple cloud
https://tenor.com/view/space-marine-2-death-space-marine-2-gif-12976716491498684...
A discord mod dies a thousand times before his death, but the shitpoaster tastes of death but once.
golden portal
if you can predict whats gonna happen in a show/book either its badly written or...
Nah nah finishing people's sentences before they start them is just an ADD superpower so we often precog movies too its very funny.
golden portal
I predicted the gandalfing of Groot and cried anyways (can I say that without spoilers? Guardians one is like a decade old)
golden portal
https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1053823148048527440/133018677177...
HAHAHAH maybe get tested bro 🤣 worst case scenario you get some free stimulants from your government (hopefully lol)
safe plover
yes im normal and can be trusted with stimulants
last time i had stims i listened to 170 hours of horus heresy summaries from a racist youtuber
royal egret
Babe wake up, the newest 40k reddit dogshit opinion dropped.
Yes, this is a real unironic list which is currently sitting at the top of 40k reddit.
wise yew
https://tenor.com/view/jose-mourinho-sweet-trouble-gif-26762341
i can smell their claws clawing into the walls
tall phoenix
I do love the mix of:
"No you gotta read all of them"
"Well its not wrong"
the first folks definitely need some help
royal egret
I’m trying to think of what you’d even get out of this list
tall phoenix
I definitely would fatten the middle up with a few more books
royal egret
Like Sanguinius is going to be first introduced in fucking Echoes
royal egret
Betrayer isn’t even an important book if we’re trying to trim the fat
It’s just good
Might as well just skip to letting Majorkill explain the heresy
tall phoenix
the problem is more these are good books but you kinda need the context of 6-7 more of them
royal egret
There’s no point reading almost any of these if you’re gonna skip this much
Basically everything that happens in echoes loses its significance
royal egret
It’s more than a few, it’s ok to admit that there’s a fair amount more than 9 books you should read if you wanna get the heresy
If all you care about is the summary then read the cliff notes or wiki.
tall phoenix
Its very much a few.
Its okay to like a ton of HH as well
but people really overblow how much you gotta read the majority of it
I say this as someone that has read 46 or so books from it lol
(mostly out of boredom ill be honest)
And through legal means
royal egret
Both Scars books, Master of Mankind, Know No Fear, Unremembered Empire, Ruinstorm, Pharos, Slaves to Darkness, Fulgrim, Angel Exterminatus, Legion, the rest of the siege. Praetorian of Dorn.
There’s others too, obviously there’s a lot of stuff you can skip if you want, but there’s a ton of books still to read, and I definitely don’t get them all here.
tall phoenix
Those nail the majority of the "few" id mention tbh.
The problem is you need someone bluntly honest about which are the "must read" books to get a good gist of the heresy due to the amount of filler content it has.
royal egret
Sure but the fact is people obsess over skipping it to “get to” the siege when the point is you should be reading a lot of it to actually enjoy the siege.
The siege isn’t that great if you don’t know who anyone is.
Just don’t read it if your only concern is skipping to the end imo, cause there’s no point
Just read a summary.
simple cloud
Unless u do Horus heresy by reading Horus Rising 80 times & nothing else u r a tourist & a woke gay sellout
The matter has been settled. U may now move 2 other topics
tall phoenix
Unless u do Horus heresy by reading Horus Rising 80 times & nothing else u r a t...
Very true
also related
deft bramble
reminded me of a little drama in russian 40k community, where one guy who make lore "videos" with floating images and all, said that if you started learning about 40k from DoW and didnt read any book or bought any models, you're a DoWggot (bad translation but i think you'll understand)
tall phoenix
russian 40k fans are another breed i swear
simple cloud
This is true I am that Russian
deft bramble
дарова ебать
simple cloud
I am brown Russian
deft bramble
russian 40k fans are another breed i swear
dunno if its a compliment
simple cloud
Uh yes uh… Vladimir… Stalingrad… dosvidanya
tall phoenix
dunno if its a compliment <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
I mean like the ones that spend their entire time on joyreactor and are usually chuds
deft bramble
Uh yes uh… Vladimir… Stalingrad… dosvidanya
oh...
tall phoenix
also permanently stuck in 2010
deft bramble
I mean like the ones that spend their entire time on joyreactor and are usually ...
OH FUCK THIS ONE
tall phoenix
YEP
deft bramble
omg you remembered joyreactor holy fuck
tall phoenix
well its still active
I only go to joyreactor when they upload HD official artworks
they somehow always got that shit there lol
but i went through like every one of its pages, literally the most unfunny circlejerk shit
the goonerism is always sad
deft bramble
they somehow always got that shit there lol
tall phoenix
safe plover
what do you mean? we love the salamanders
deft bramble
but... do Salamanders have the n word pass?...
safe plover
their dad is black so i would assume so
deft bramble
saving common people, have the n-word pass..
tall phoenix
serious answer: no
deft bramble
oh(((
tall phoenix
because they arent african-american
they also got other ethnicities like asians/caucasian in the artworks they got
they're mixed
deft bramble
so they have the pass, but just a little
safe plover
they have his geneseed/organs made from it in them tho so theyre like 10% black at least
tall phoenix
💀
deft bramble
they have his geneseed/organs made from it in them tho so theyre like 10% black ...
so they can just say "N...", only one letter
safe plover
actually no i take it back since they become larger when they become space marines their extra mass is also black
so like 40=60%
deft bramble
so like 40=60%
therefore, my theory says...
simple cloud
actually no i take it back since they become larger when they become space marin...
Incredible discourse 2day
safe plover
Incredible discourse 2day
deft bramble
i reached the moment in the second Eisenhorn book, where Abnett definitely forgot about Gregor's disability to smile
very funi
tall phoenix
hes very relatable
deft bramble
safe plover
the more i learn about G man the more i like him
tall phoenix
Hes a very likable man its true
simple cloud
Real q does daemonhost daddy in the main chat actually think im a psycho or is he playing along as straight man lmao
simple cloud
Hes a very likable man its true
Sometimes I think that the primarchs have been too humanized
deft bramble
Inquisior Eiseeenhooorn... Is it really that... time again?..
simple cloud
Like they should be somewhat alien
Somewhat capricious like the godlets they are
And somewhat just… other because they have in them a measure — we don’t know how much — of warp stuff.
tall phoenix
Sometimes I think that the primarchs have been too humanized
KIND OF.
Like most marine fanboys always disagree and want the primarchs return to "hopeful" without forgetting these people are literal monsters. Guilliman makes a lot of sense though because hes human thus making people like the Imperium to a degree and thus buy more models etc.
They do showcase a lot in the books that hes completley aware of the shit hes done and if he had a choice he'd just leave and let the entire thing crumble but he has a job to do.
simple cloud
Yeah and I like him as a character and like what they’ve done with him!!
wise yew
They do showcase a lot in the books that hes completley aware of the shit hes do...
One of his first thoughts when he awoke was literally
wise yew
You know what horus should have won
Literally the imperium has degenerated to the point that trying to save it is a wasted effort
simple cloud
How could it be possible that an expansionist empire led by a warrior king and his 20 generals/sons is still expansionisting and warrioring
Gee roboute
tall phoenix
Lol
But yeah like its why some people are right when they compare Primarchs to MCU slop, they serve as good centerpiece characters to soypoint at with some badass qualities but like once we get 3-4 more loyalists primarchs its gonna be an absolute mess.
deft bramble
MCU?
tall phoenix
Marvel Cinematic Universe
aka cheap wojak clap mass appeal audience entertainment mostly
simple cloud
Fair but mostly unfair
tall phoenix
I try I try
simple cloud
Imho
tall phoenix
my issue is like
I wanna talk about lore
and every time its:
"hey so primarchs-"
💀
deft bramble
i guess im glad that i dont care about marines and primarchs
tall phoenix
You can care about them tbh
the problem is they always become the focal point to everything
they centralize the setting on themselves
simple cloud
Look I just have several pivotal questions mostly revolving around the dimensions and parameters of primarch pps ok
deft bramble
i think ill care only about salamanders
tall phoenix
Lol
anyway when is eternal gonna come in to argue against me
we need the full checklist
safe plover
like ultramarines fans
yeah see thats the thing
simple cloud
I was looking at the Blanche art of unification war era earth
safe plover
surface level haha excel spreadsheets xddd theyre good at everything
but G man has some depth
simple cloud
I love any reference to that shit
wise yew
"hey so primarchs-"
Okay look the joint demigods are cool but like can you literally explore any other facet of 40k
simple cloud
I think possibly The Great Work has chronologically the earliest scene that’s not from ancient times?
tall phoenix
I think possibly The Great Work has chronologically the earliest scene that’s no...
One of them kinda
mos tof Uni-Earth is explored in the black books pretty well
i love dumbass entries like
simple cloud
Wait it is
tall phoenix
"The Emperors Genechad-Alchemo armies fought the evil Gore-Gholem-Wight-Witches of Pan-Afrikanos-Mongolians"
simple cloud
I did not know this
wise yew
we need the full checklist
Make sure to rest on the lore chat grace fires
I heard his first phase alone is already quite a hassle the boss fight can go crazy
tall phoenix
I did not know this
Heard what
severe trail
"The Emperors Genechad-Alchemo armies fought the evil Gore-Gholem-Wight-Witches ...
You forgot the ETHNOCRACY
tall phoenix
LOL
True my bad
the amount of silly made up shit for the names of the factions is great though i love it
severe trail
Like that’s the most comically evil sounding one
I can think of
Shit like Hy-Brasil is normal
simple cloud
You forgot the **ETHNOCRACY**
Bro u me and @tall phoenix r the asiatic ethnocracy
severe trail
💀
tall phoenix
💀
simple cloud
The Russians don't count they're just cold-adapted eurotrash
severe trail
Guh
simple cloud
(Sadly the Turk and I share a more recent genetic common ancestor w the russkies than u do with any of us, I'm afraid; source https://www.nature.com/articles/srep29890, which isn't actually a very good analysis supertrees suck)
royal egret
we need the full checklist
What do we need to hit all the 40klore npc talking points?
tall phoenix
What do we need to hit all the 40klore npc talking points?
I dunno say something
do the thingy
royal egret
"primarchs focus the setting around them"
Me looking for all that lore/books that has been focused around the Lion or any primarchs since he came out
simple cloud
"primarchs focus the setting around them"
*Me looking for all that lore/books t...
Literally what is the deal with the Lion void
royal egret
The issue is we don't have enough stuff on him rn, we barely have him interacting with the 40k DA.
simple cloud
Wait didn't he have a primarch novel
royal egret
Yeah but it was before he met up with the 40k chapter.
I enjoyed it, it had issues but it was ok. Typical Brooks soy moments and stuff but it was fun.
Brooks does fights and that stuff well.
royal egret
Luther book was very good yeah
simple cloud
Lion void is notable
I remember he didn't have a 30k mini for the longest time either!
Was he the last primarch to be released?
royal egret
Anyways, I don't disagreed they need to be careful about adding too many primarchs but the idea the setting focuses on them or they can't focus on non-primarch characters because them is silly.
Guilliman largely at most is just mentioned as having signed off on an operation or being somewhere else outside of the books which are written around him.
Mostly my issue with modern GW lore is its too sparse, codexes have cut back on lore and we don't get enough stuff.
royal egret
And thats the case across the board, the books are good but the codex fluff is really lacking recently.
Campaigns I've mostly enjoyed at least, but I hope they're gonna step up the fluff more.
tall phoenix
"primarchs focus the setting around them"
*Me looking for all that lore/books t...
They pretty much do yeah
and i wasnt really mentioning the books tinhead
literally half the joke you also participate in is people circlejerking primarchs lol
simple cloud
literally half the joke you *also* participate in is people circlejerking primar...
Wait where is the circle this might help in answering my pp questions
Plz I have google maps open
royal egret
The whole "omg primarchs make everything about them" is the most npc take out there, especially when theres endless examples we can find that they really don't.
Arks largely wasn't anything to do with the primarchs until Angrons book, and they weren't a heavy focus despite being there. They're there to mostly be pieces on the board to Abbadon's game.
simple cloud
royal egret
Pariah Nexus also has been completely without it and has been fine.
simple cloud
The whole "omg primarchs make everything about them" is the most npc take out th...
Bro what the fuck r we supposed 2 do w our takes
We r npcs
U r the player character
tall phoenix
The whole "omg primarchs make everything about them" is the most npc take out th...
Its really not an "npc" take when its very much reality in the fandom as awhole, I really dislike this weird point when it doesnt make sense either.
royal egret
It someones gonna call me something I'm gonna bring up how they're doing the same shit.
tall phoenix
And "wasnt anything to do with primarchs"
mentions angron in the same sentence
and also the Lion is crammed in there
ok pal
royal egret
Did you just like, not read what I said?
tall phoenix
I did tho, the problem is your take is just as weird
tall phoenix
It someones gonna call me something I'm gonna bring up how they're doing the sam...
Guess we are stuck in limbo
royal egret
Angron and Lion were unimportant parts of the narrative largely, Angron gets the most focus in his book but the Lion doesn't show up much in his own.
The focus was on Abbadon and Vashtorr and their plan
The primarchs are side characters and pawns in it largely.
And they dont matter for most of the campaign or come up until the end.
tall phoenix
"Unimportant"
Literally has two of the books named after them.
simple cloud
Yeah but one of them is named after a random Tau ur point is invalid
royal egret
Yes if you just ignore whats being said and keep repeating a point then sure
tall phoenix
Yes if you just ignore whats being said and keep repeating a point then sure
What am I even ignoring
like "side characters" where
royal egret
They're not important to the overall narrative
simple cloud
Ok to be real though like literally all anyone cared about w arks of omen was the Lion
royal egret
Ok to be real though like literally all anyone cared about w arks of omen was th...
Maybe people who don't read it
Which is kinda my point here lol
tall phoenix
Ok to be real though like literally all anyone cared about w arks of omen was th...
Mostly yeah
royal egret
It was a big deal becuase he came back, but his actual impact on the series is he shows up at the end and fights Angron
And thats it
tall phoenix
when he came back people were screaming
especially with the entire bossfight against angron
(which he also of course won because WWE rules)
but he got like badly scarred very important
tall phoenix
And they don't show up until the end.
"until the end"
one of them literally shows up halfway in lol
simple cloud
And Guilliman's return had massive impact on the narrative. It like merged 30k and 40k
royal egret
Yes once again if we keep ignoring all thats being said and act super reductive
tall phoenix
(mostly anyway)
royal egret
Then sure, it fits your narrative.
tall phoenix
Yes once again if we keep ignoring all thats being said and act super reductive
I mean its what you are doing
simple cloud
It brought something from the time of legends into the present.
tall phoenix
Yeah i liked it
royal egret
No, you're jsut ignoring the points and going
"word from your comment"
tall phoenix
because Gathering Storm was done in an era of like nothing literally happening
And im raising a point and you are going:
"Yeah you are ignoring me"
like, no im not
simple cloud
because Gathering Storm was done in an era of like **nothing** literally happeni...
That's not true Eldrad got eaten by that blackstone fortress that one time
And then he got better
tall phoenix
Lmao
but yeah Gathering Storm was nice
Gman is also like the best candidate you could have to reappear tbh
severe trail
I’m out of warhammer crime
tall phoenix
I remember reading the rulebooks online with a friend when they came out, it was pretty thrilling
severe trail
I’ve read everything
severe trail
tall phoenix
are you going through withdrawal
simple cloud
I’ve read everything
Go commit some warhammer crimes then
simple cloud
Like that toilet dice guy
royal egret
You don't actually have examples of the setting warping around them , we see plenty of examples of them not, and GW has shown they're not even super committed to it lol.
Psychic Awakening, which sucked sure, had very few appearances of them, Pariah Nexus has had nothing until the very end of the campaign book teasing Guilliman coming to help.
Vigilus, nothing.
Most of the 10e edition lore had nothing to do with Guilliman, basically everyone else got a spotlight, he's just mentioned as being there.
War Zone Charadon, nothing.
Same goes for recent books, Guilliman is basically non existent same for the Lion.
This new Dawn of Fire book will be his first appearence properly in like, five years?
3, he was in the Helbrecht book.
And thats for one scene, very good scene but he's not a focus.
tall phoenix
You don't actually have examples of the setting warping around them , we see ple...
Im finishing Castlevania so gonna put you on hold for a few mins sorry oomfie brb
royal egret
That being said Haley better not fuck up the last book, idc about the storyline of Dawn of Fire I just want Pariah Nexus to be cool.
royal egret
Im finishing Castlevania so gonna put you on hold for a few mins sorry oomfie br...
Yes I get you don't have a response as always when this happens.
Then you do the "annnnnnnyyyywwwaaaayyysss" stuff.
My point has been made though, theres plenty of examples of the primarchs not warping the setting and GW has clearly shown they can tell narratives and stories with them not being in them or barely mattering and others being the core focus.
Now give me a cool Silent King novel appearence.
simple cloud
Im finishing Castlevania so gonna put you on hold for a few mins sorry oomfie br...
Wat is this Twilight-ass bullshit
tall phoenix
Wat is this Twilight-ass bullshit
Western anime 😭
Anyway okay lemme read the yaps now
simple cloud
Go watch my neighbor vampiro some other time
tall phoenix
You don't actually have examples of the setting warping around them , we see ple...
As ever you should read the stuff I said before continuing on with this weird point of yours regarding the "setting" when I very much been talking about the fandom for the past 10 minutes.
This literally has nothing to do with their cameos or obvious lack thereof events, we were in general just talking about how even the smallest mention of them always circlejerks into weird subjects like oh which one of them is coming back or oh which one of them is gonna save the imperium from stagnation as the Great Good Guy Warlords they are which warps the entire universe to just warp around these superhero-esque characters like they are the main protagonists with great virtues instead of giving some proper focus to anyone else in the Imperium or other factions in general really, and it just goes back to the same old dilemma of "OH CANT WAIT FOR THIS BIG SPACE MARINE MAN IN ARMOR TO COME BACK" when theres kinda more to them than that ya know?
tall phoenix
Yes I get you don't have a response as always when this happens.
Then you do th...
And no you don't get me, I always have a reply just... how many times do I gotta say it, I got better things to do sometimes and just don't wanna keep said argument going lol.
The problem is your inability to understand you are very grating to talk with in any capacity and I just cedede because you are obnoxious, you didnt really make any point aside from "well duh" like you always do bruh, why do you have to declare auto-win with every wall-talking interactions I have with you 💀
anyway
tldr:
royal egret
I don't care about what people on reddit are circlejerking about, I care about whats actually shown.
tall phoenix
Cool, still not the point.
Now seriously stop putting on your "i win" cap every time I dont wanna argue wih your tinheaded-ass
royal egret
Except it was, what we were clearly talking about GW's input, people on reddit will always be dumb.
People on there will complain about it being warp around the primarchs while only talking about them.
tall phoenix
Its not about reddit people, the majority of the fandom does this outside of that lol
like its a very well known thing
royal egret
And that doesn't matter, because people online are stupid and don't even read the material.
simple cloud
As ever you should read the stuff I said before continuing on with this weird po...
U r writing whole ass paragraphs when I literally can’t read?
Ableism
royal egret
The argument is not over if the fanbase is gonna be dumb, the half fanbase probably still thinks Yvraine and Guilliman fucked
And that Rylanor mattered at all or is a focus, or clonegrim or whatever.
tall phoenix
And that doesn't matter, because people online are stupid and don't even read th...
To you sure
its still incredibly obnoxious
tall phoenix
U r writing whole ass paragraphs when I literally can’t read?
I was bored ok
well that and the ending to the show pissed me off
royal egret
The question is if GW has shown they'll overly focus on primarchs and warp the setting around them, which they haven't. Stop changing what was being argued so it fits what you want.
GW can't control people not reading and getting all their lore from tubers and whatever.
And I was never arguing whether or not the fanbase is stupid and doesn't know about the setting, of course they are.
simple cloud
well that and the ending to the show pissed me off
Yeah it was fucking weird how shinji was just sitting in the middle of a circle of his clapping friends
royal egret
None of them have even read or could summarize any or most of these books or campaigns, I don't set my watch by what random chucklefuck number 34234234 thinks on reddit about the lore.
tall phoenix
The question is if GW has shown they'll overly focus on primarchs and warp the s...
Oh my god
Im not changing anything
im actually gonna strangle you
tall phoenix
Yeah it was fucking weird how shinji was just sitting in the middle of a circle ...
I really need to watch evangelion
i still dont get what that scene is 💀
actually nvm i shouldnt thats stupid
simple cloud
I really need to watch evangelion
Ok literally you do it is very good
tall phoenix
That good huh
simple cloud
although I watched it when i was 18 so ymmv
royal egret
Oh my god
So you agreed GW hasn't warped the setting around the primarchs and its a fabricated idea the fans themselves do?
Cause I'll agreed that the fanbase is tarded all day long.
simple cloud
theres like 4 versions 💀
Do orig series plus movie don’t bother w remake
tall phoenix
So you agreed GW hasn't warped the setting around the primarchs and its a fabric...
I didn't honestly i checked out like 10m ago
im still pissed about the castlevania ending
royal egret
Just be prepared for some weird shit
simple cloud
Nooo just watch it
simple cloud
Cause I'll agreed that the fanbase is tarded all day long.
Actually just socioeconomically speaking the fan base is prob considerably higher iq than population mean in any reasonable partitioning scheme
simple cloud
No I am tarded the fanbase is smart you fool
royal egret
I choose both
simple cloud
Japanese anime creators are so deeply not ok and also ok w being public about it lmao
tall phoenix
Nooo just watch it
Okay I found a site with the original im gonna uhhh do it tomorrow because work
royal egret
Its a trip
Mix of the artist being jammed all the way up his own ass and complete genius.
simple cloud
Okay I found a site with the original im gonna uhhh do it tomorrow because work ...
It’s a lotta episodes
shy lark
original NGE only nothing else for pure artistic vision
simple cloud
original NGE only nothing else for pure artistic vision
Wat about EoE
shy lark
if you're a freak
simple cloud
Look around u man
tall phoenix
So you agreed GW hasn't warped the setting around the primarchs and its a fabric...
Okay my brain is back to normal after I vented about the ending a bit but yes agreed exactly what you said
royal egret
tall phoenix
It was bad. It had like 3 boss fights at the finale it fried my brain.
royal egret
Now go watch Evangelion.
tall phoenix
Now go watch Evangelion.
Tomorrow ı got AutoCad'ing to do
royal egret
Whats the point of calling it autocad if you have to do it.
simple cloud
Okay my brain is back to normal after I vented about the ending a bit but yes ag...
Did Ella or whatever her name is end up with the werewolf instead of Edward
tall phoenix
Whats the point of calling it autocad if you have to do it.
Ive been asking myself that for the last 10 years
hmmm archisloppa
tall phoenix
Did Ella or whatever her name is end up with the werewolf instead of Edward
OH FUCKING TWILIGHT
dude i was like "who????"
never got into it as a teenager femoid so idk
simple cloud
hahahaha
Sad
Try to reconnect with teenage you when you watch evangelion
You’ll get the most mileage that way
tall phoenix
Lol will do
simple cloud
Teenage me thought it was fucking amazing
safe plover
Im finishing Castlevania so gonna put you on hold for a few mins sorry oomfie br...
which castlevania?
the first anime is absolute KINO
the second one is alright
safe plover
Try to reconnect with teenage you when you watch evangelion
bruh
do not recommend eva to people
either they like it and theyre depressed or they hate it and theyre mad and confused
simple cloud
Lmao
Yes
@tall phoenix is always mad anyway
Maybe she’d like to be depressed for a change
tall phoenix
which castlevania?
Nocturne 😭
tall phoenix
<@166943308231344128> is always mad anyway
I live in turkey İts required
celest heron
I really need to watch evangelion
you gonna watch the gnostic gospel?
I thought it was a normal mecha anime until the mechs started eating each other
celest heron
https://tenor.com/view/turkey-man-angry-out-of-car-meme-fast-am-talking-gif-1728...
least patriotic turk
glass lintel
I thought it was a normal mecha anime until the mechs started eating each other
I heard about how great Evangelion was my whole life, and finally decided to watch it in Highschool. I even stayed-up until 2am to binge it.
It was pretty cool and stylish - loved the animation - and when it got to the Mech Cannibalism I was sold.
Cue it ending on a slideshow of all the women a horny teenager stared at over the course of the show pointing and laughing at him while he cried in a chair.
I legit had an existential crisis. I was literally convinced that I was living in some sort of simulation and hearing about how good Evangelion was my whole life, and only seeing snippets relevant to things I thought kicked ass was a practical joke, and all my friends in the year 2782 were going to be laughing their asses off when I left the pod.
finite frigate
hate when that happens 
mellow knot
Hey Bookies.
Been wrapped up in the early stages of a new project all weekend and have come here for an escape!
wise yew
Hey Bookies.
Been wrapped up in the early stages of a new project all weekend a...
Aye how doing champion of the blood god
mellow knot
I’m not bad considering it’s a Monday morning thank you. You?
wise yew
I’m not bad considering it’s a Monday morning thank you. You?
Finished reading the Ossiarch Bonereapers Battletome so i'm pretty much in a good mood, thank you for asking
mellow knot
Excellent. Good moods are a great way to start a week!
wise yew
Excellent. Good moods are a great way to start a week!
It sure is, helps get you through it
mellow knot
Already looking longingly at the calendar and thinking ‘soon be Friday’.
safe plover
hate to say it but the memes about horus collecting the 40k hammers do come from a real place
a bunch of books have like the cheesiest slop line at the very end
"The Unremembered Empire" end with ... this is going to be an UNREMEMBERED EMPIRE
runic peak
safe plover
https://tenor.com/view/blackbeard-blackbeard-writing-taking-notes-writing-gif-17...
||"this will become, in future days, an unremembered empire, an unthinkable act undone and unthought."||
runic peak
"Darn Gotrek, you really are a skaven slayer"
drowsy urchin
is it really slop if it fits
tall phoenix
it is the end and the death
drowsy urchin
truly
tall phoenix
"The Unremembered Empire" end with ... this is going to be an UNREMEMBERED EMPIR...
also i really do not think theres any line worse in the Heresy than
"This isn't Horus's treachery anymore, it is his Heresy."
drowsy urchin
which book has that
tall phoenix
(yes this is real lol)
tall phoenix
which book has that
Oh man hold on
its like an entire spiel Guilliman says its so funny
drowsy urchin
tbf that might be the weakest line in all of heresy
why would it be called heresy during it, it fits more with the religious themes the imperium builds up in the later millenia
tall phoenix
'What do you think of the light now?' Guilliman asked.
'I like it well enough,' said Gantulga. 'It is not the trap I feared. But I marked your words to the Imperial Fist. The actions of Horus...'
He said the name like a snake-hiss, as if it burned his mouth and he wanted to spit it out.
'Heresy, I would say,' said Guilliman. 'It was treachery at first. To turn against brothers, to kill for personal advancement and power. But we have seen them, seen how their minds and bodies have been corrupted. their very belief systems have been warped. This is no longer Horus' treachery. It is his heresy.'
Know No Fear / Pharos
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"This isn't Horus's treachery anymore, it is his **Heresy**."
ikr like why would G man use the word heresy
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its Dan Abnett so not wrong
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at least they mention it being a thing about belief